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Title: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 09, 2019, 05:36:12 pm
Eamon and the team are asking for expressions of interest.

Visit https://www.wawaudax.com/contact.html

The route runs from Kinsale to Derry along the Wild Atlantic Way , entire west coast of Ireland. Distance 2,100km.  Will be June or July next year.  This is the second running of the event.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Diesel on February 09, 2019, 05:57:33 pm
Thanks Phil

Have expressed my interest.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: stefan on February 09, 2019, 06:15:24 pm
Yes thanks very much for the heads up. I'm intrigued by this ride and hope to do it.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: postie on February 09, 2019, 06:28:28 pm
I am looking forward to round 2!!- still got some pubs on route i didn't vist last time.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: DCLane on February 09, 2019, 06:40:55 pm
I've expressed interest, depending upon the date
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Bikeabilityman on February 09, 2019, 10:02:12 pm
Thanks Phil

Have expressed my interest.
Take the George and Dragon Christmas cake with you.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Diesel on February 09, 2019, 10:04:29 pm
Thanks Phil

Have expressed my interest.
Take the George and Dragon Christmas cake with you.

Memorable wasn't it. Can't beat a bit of Christmas Cake (or more like half the cake at the George and Dragon)
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: FifeingEejit on February 09, 2019, 10:53:01 pm
Tempted by it, 300km a day even seems doable, although breaking down into days PBP that's 320 a day... or my maths is wrong.
But I've no idea!


Just noticed the start is a Temperance Hall...
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 09, 2019, 11:35:46 pm
There will likely also be a 240km a day option, plus possibly a 210km a day tour option (not homologated). The former being a min 10km/h for that distance and still being homologised under LRM.  The original 175 hour / 7 days 7 hour option of 2016 still being an option.  The 240km a day option will depart a couple of days before the 300km a day (ish) version so they will coincide towards the end as riders if either version start to converge.

It will be mandatory route. Live trackers and secret controls like last time.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: quixoticgeek on February 10, 2019, 12:39:16 am
There will likely also be a 240km a day option, plus possibly a 210km a day tour option (not homologated). The former being a min 10km/h for that distance and still being homologised under LRM.  The original 175 hour / 7 days 7 hour option of 2016 still being an option.  The 240km a day option will depart a couple of days before the 300km a day (ish) version so they will coincide towards the end as riders if either version start to converge.

It will be mandatory route. Live trackers and secret controls like last time.

Damn that looks tempting, 240km a day, homologated by LRM... I wonder what else I have on the wish list for 2020...

J
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on February 10, 2019, 06:37:27 am
I've registered an interest.  It's a beautiful part of the world, and I haven't spent enough time there.  And, although this year being a nightmare because of CET Juniors having A levels and GCSEs, June next year will be exam free.  300km/day feels doable and was the routine I got into on the Mille Miglia a few years back. 
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 10, 2019, 11:51:10 am
There will likely also be a 240km a day option, plus possibly a 210km a day tour option (not homologated). The former being a min 10km/h for that distance and still being homologised under LRM.  The original 175 hour / 7 days 7 hour option of 2016 still being an option.  The 240km a day option will depart a couple of days before the 300km a day (ish) version so they will coincide towards the end as riders if either version start to converge.

It will be mandatory route. Live trackers and secret controls like last time.

Damn that looks tempting, 240km a day, homologated by LRM... I wonder what else I have on the wish list for 2020...

J

That is my preference for this second edition.  With a timely start each day it should enable riding it entirely in daylight.  Audax Ireland give a great welcome and you tend to see the same volunteers as they move up the coast from control to control.  The scenery changes as you move up the coast as well, some quite different mountain formations in the northern reaches compared to the southern end.  I remember light still being in the sky at 11pm last time due to being so far west. It ran end of June in 2016.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: whosatthewheel on February 10, 2019, 12:20:45 pm
can't open the link, it says it contains malware
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 10, 2019, 12:42:55 pm
Some pictures from 2016

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/0w8sp3pfjn4vv0f/2016%20Apr%2005_2193.png?raw=1)

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/3sw4z0bxlmrv76t/2016%20Apr%2005_2202.png?raw=1)

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwzb1wsbvz0z1wq/2016%20Apr%2006_2170.png?raw=1)

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/j98tia6rv7ctnnq/2016%20Apr%2006_2179.png?raw=1)

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/ajie75eiat8amy0/2016%20Apr%2008_2136.png?raw=1)

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/drkmb0ixgy6sgsb/2016%20Apr%2008_2138.JPG?raw=1)

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/brm12gp2kl2muof/2016%20Apr%2009_2085.JPG?raw=1)

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/lj18yqj1vzm6ioy/2016%20Apr%2005_2224.png?raw=1)
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Rainbow Dash on February 10, 2019, 12:59:00 pm
I get a malware warning too!

Chrome on Windows 10
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: rob on February 10, 2019, 03:33:58 pm
What’s the climbing like ?  I’d like a go if I can fit it in but would need to think about choice of gear.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Ajax Bay on February 10, 2019, 03:55:07 pm
https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=97985.0
What’s the climbing like ?  I’d like a go if I can fit it in but would need to think about choice of gear.
I'll be interested to see the reactions to the climbing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNtqv5fX3ts
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 10, 2019, 04:43:29 pm
What’s the climbing like ?  I’d like a go if I can fit it in but would need to think about choice of gear.


Plenty of it. If you read Pete M's A-Z account he talks of the tarmac being glued onto the side of a cliff or some such.  First 620km is fairly tough, get through that and you are on your way. Next 1000km the terrain eases though it's still hilly and of course you have that Atlantic wind blowing away.  Then as you enter Sligo, Lietrim, then Donegal the steeper stuff returns.

Expect both Alpine 5-10% type grades and 25% grades along the route. It is a stunning route and looking both forward and back and realising you have ridden or will ride every headland (that has a road) in view and beyond is quite a feeling.

Plus I believe Eamon has found us an extra hill on Achill Island to keep the kegs warmed up.

Ivan did the Transatlantic Way race on fixed, which is basically the opposite way north to south. He may have an opinion on gear choice.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Deano_44 on February 10, 2019, 04:44:18 pm
Well, I have registered interest but let's see how I feel after PBP!  ;D
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 10, 2019, 05:19:15 pm
Well, I have registered interest but let's see how I feel after PBP!  ;D

It was at PBP in 2015 that I bumped into Eamon eating at a control on the way back. My fate was sealed in those minute we spent discussing this mad idea he had.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: ianrobo on February 10, 2019, 05:21:36 pm
I have expressed an interest and always wanted to ride on Ireland
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: PeterM on February 10, 2019, 06:08:47 pm
My article on the last WAWA is here (http://audaxdemon.co.uk/2016/07/19/a-z-of-the-wawa/#more-151)
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: ianrobo on February 10, 2019, 06:59:00 pm
My article on the last WAWA is here (http://audaxdemon.co.uk/2016/07/19/a-z-of-the-wawa/#more-151)

Thanks Peter very long but fascinating read
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: rob on February 10, 2019, 07:50:12 pm
My article on the last WAWA is here (http://audaxdemon.co.uk/2016/07/19/a-z-of-the-wawa/#more-151)

I had forgotten about that article.  Reminds me how many times I have enjoyed your writing over the years, Peter.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Kangaroocourt on February 11, 2019, 08:51:15 am
Seems rude not to, doesn't it?  8)
Phil, looking forward to your tips for the ride en route to York.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: whosatthewheel on February 11, 2019, 10:47:38 am
Will be June or July next year.  This is the second running of the event.

To me it seems clear it is June... where did you read about July?

I can't do June, but I might be able to do July
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Paul D on February 11, 2019, 10:57:31 am
Ambiguous statement on more than one page of the site:

Quote
Please note Information will be updated for the next event in June 2020

Information in June, or event in June?
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 11, 2019, 12:20:48 pm
Will be June or July next year.  This is the second running of the event.

To me it seems clear it is June... where did you read about July?

I can't do June, but I might be able to do July

Directly from the horses mouth.  There are a few details being worked on, the date is not fixed yet.  June seems likely but July has also been mentioned in conversations.  For now I would register your interest and the dates will be confirmed some time later this year.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Ivan on February 11, 2019, 12:23:01 pm
Ivan did the Transatlantic Way race on fixed, which is basically the opposite way north to south. He may have an opinion on gear choice.

Yes, I did TAW in 2017 on 74". It's my kind of terrain, continually varying gradient so you are always in the right gear! Lots of short punchy climbs that you can either power up, or with very little traffic, lots of opportunities to tack, and I walked a handful of climbs, but then Adrian added in some extra detours to the official WAW route to challenge us some more.

Going the other way, the wind was a killer and got blown off my bike a couple of times, so going South to North is very appealing. I've registered an interest for WAWA 2020, and would love to go back and do this - it's an amazing place to ride. Tempted by the 240km/day option though, 300 kpd means far fewer opportunties to visit pubs en route.

Here's my track: https://www.strava.com/activities/1048845920 and here's me on the Ballaghbeama Gap (again, not on the WAWA route unfortunately):

(https://www.apidura.com/content/uploads/2018/07/The-TransAtlantic-Way-The-Directors-Cut-Main-image.jpg)
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: rafletcher on February 11, 2019, 12:26:38 pm
I get a malware warning too!

Chrome on Windows 10

I don't, same setup.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 11, 2019, 12:41:59 pm
Couple more pictures from 2016

Healy Pass

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/m11btritqj7a3oo/DSC04563.jpg?raw=1)

Cliffs of Moher

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/l9rbcfy5hwm5rgi/DSC04737.jpg?raw=1)
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 11, 2019, 12:55:02 pm
Plus to show it is not all sunshine and light winds! (annoying rattle was my GPS mount heading towards failure)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsIiSDS0FsM&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Rory on February 11, 2019, 04:23:14 pm
Thanks Phil,

Hi all, just to confirm:

-  Event details are being worked on for the WAWA 2020.
-  We're currently gathering interest to assess capacity requirements.
-  The website is certainly malware free, so feel free to jump in and register your interest  ;D

https://www.wawaudax.com/contact.html

Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: jsabine on February 11, 2019, 04:28:44 pm
I've got a wee bit of unfinished business with this one ...
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 13, 2019, 06:18:22 pm
I've got a wee bit of unfinished business with this one ...

Good man.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: andyp on February 13, 2019, 09:40:21 pm
Interest expressed: wasn't ready last time, feel like I am now :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: whosatthewheel on February 14, 2019, 08:12:05 am
June is a problem for a number of people who can't take annual leave outside school holidays. C'mon guys... you know July is better... ;D
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: brakeless on February 14, 2019, 08:53:37 am
June is a problem for a number of people who can't take annual leave outside school holidays. C'mon guys... you know July is better... ;D

And some of us have family commitments in the school holidays and prefer quieter roads in the tourist areas outside of peak holiday times.

What will be will be.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: whosatthewheel on February 14, 2019, 10:03:06 am
June is a problem for a number of people who can't take annual leave outside school holidays. C'mon guys... you know July is better... ;D

And some of us have family commitments in the school holidays and prefer quieter roads in the tourist areas outside of peak holiday times.

What will be will be.

second week of July works for both of us... deal?  ;D
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 15, 2019, 10:30:22 am
My write up ( a long one) of WAWA 2016 is here

https://hertsaudax.uk/the-call-of-the-wild-prologue/
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: whosatthewheel on February 15, 2019, 11:22:11 am
My write up ( a long one) of WAWA 2016 is here

https://hertsaudax.uk/the-call-of-the-wild-prologue/

Ooohh... you did it on an ElliptiGO... that explains...  :P I passed a guy on one of those this morning, never seen one before... he seemed to put a lot of effort but wasn't going very fast at all... is it just poor technique or they are really inefficient?
For comparison, I was on a 2 speed Brompton with a large bag at the front and was doing twice the speed for seemingly less effort
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 15, 2019, 11:24:05 am
My write up ( a long one) of WAWA 2016 is here

https://hertsaudax.uk/the-call-of-the-wild-prologue/

Ooohh... you did it on an ElliptiGO... that explains...  :P I passed a guy on one of those this morning, never seen one before... he seemed to put a lot of effort but wasn't going very fast at all... is it just poor technique or they are really inefficient?
For comparison, I was on a 2 speed Brompton with a large bag at the front and was doing twice the speed for seemingly less effort
Nope I was on a road bike
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: whosatthewheel on February 15, 2019, 11:26:03 am
Oh, I see, it's the other guy on the ElliptiGO
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Phil W on February 15, 2019, 11:28:17 am
Oh, I see, it's the other guy on the ElliptiGO

Yes, Stuart and Andy were both on Elliptigos.  Andy dropped out after 1200km with Achilles issues. I know Andy intends to be back next year, not sure about Stuart yet.
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: Jabba on February 15, 2019, 02:48:34 pm
Have expressed interest and as I won't be France bound this year it will give me something to work towards   :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: thisisgrace on February 22, 2019, 05:05:15 pm
I've put in an expression of interest. Given the rise of long-distance cycling, ultra-racing and Audax since the previous event, I'm interested to see how TransAtlantic Way and WAW will be attended. I'd much prefer the Audax version but given TAW is now an ITT, I wonder what people will choose.

Will there be a qualification process like PBP?
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: chocjohn9 on February 22, 2019, 05:26:25 pm
Excited by this ride and have registered interest...... anyone else "worried" about Shermer's neck? It's a little niggle at the back of my mind....
I did start to get twinges on LEL.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: quixoticgeek on February 22, 2019, 05:40:24 pm
Excited by this ride and have registered interest...... anyone else "worried" about Shermer's neck? It's a little niggle at the back of my mind....
I did start to get twinges on LEL.
Thoughts?

It's always a concern on rides that get this long. It's one of many things I'm worried about for this years TCR too. I'm not sure what the solution is, I'm going with lots of time in the saddle, different positions on the bars, and might talk to physio about neck exercises. But it's a worry!

J
Title: Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
Post by: postie on February 22, 2019, 05:43:30 pm
Dont wear a helmet or if you do ,dont add extra stuff like lights,camera etc. Take any head gear off as often as you can.