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Title: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 18, 2019, 11:59:04 am
OK I admit it I'm a tool junkie. I love good tools and hate rubbish ones.
Currently I'm slightly obsessed with German screwdrivers and screwdriver bits, Werea and Wiha, so much better than the standard junk. I have a great fondness for ratcheting screwdrivers of all vintages and good adjustable spanners (old Bahco or King Dick) too. I love trawling car boot sales for unloved classic tools, hand planes, files, chisels and the like.

But my favourite  thing of all for some reason is pliers.

I have far too many old Elliot Lucas pliers some restored and some sitting in the box of rusty stuff to be dealt with at some nebulas time in the future. Of the modern ones I like Knippex.
Today Amazon delivered me two pairs of Japanese "Engineer" brand pliers. I had to have these as they just look so great and are unique in that the ridges on the jaws run at 90deg to normal pliers so you can undo sheared off or rusty screws with them. Plus who can resist something named "Neji-sarus" with styling like something out of Star Wars?

Any other tool o'holics ?

(http://www.engineer.jp/_products/pz58/p/PZ-58.jpg)
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on April 18, 2019, 01:34:16 pm
The missus would say I am, but I never buy anything I don't need.

N.B. variable values of 'need'.
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: rogerzilla on April 18, 2019, 01:36:34 pm
I have a complete set of tools for 1" headsets, including reaming and facing.  They have saved a lot of trouble with headsets that won't adjust properly, and reduced a few JIS forks to ISO.
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: essexian on April 18, 2019, 01:42:00 pm
Am I the only one who cringes a little when their wife goes into their tool box...... I know that sounds sexist but its not meant to. It's simply that I have seen her do strange things with the wrong set of pliers.


And yes, I am more than happy to show her what does what but it's easier to do it myself...... blimey, does that mean she has trained me to do jobs I don't want to do when she wants them done......  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 18, 2019, 01:46:00 pm
Hello. My name is Jurek and I am a tool junkie.
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: rafletcher on April 18, 2019, 01:51:50 pm
My wife wouldn't dream of going into my toolbox, she's happy enough to criticise me for using the wrong tool when I'm too idle to  ;D.

I was digging through the cycle tool box the other day, and among the current stuff, I found a set of genuine Campag tools - BB, headset and pedal spanners, cone spanners, crank extractor. No earthly good to me now, but I'm struggling to get rid of them. I will though, soon....

Likewise I have a headset press I'll not be needing any more, but it's only a Cyclo one so might hang on to it in case someone needs to borrow one...
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 18, 2019, 02:27:28 pm
My wife steals small ball peen hammers. I keep buying them and they keep disappearing. Every so often I find one in a random draw in the house. She likes rearranging the pictures and mirrors hence the vanishing hammers.
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on April 18, 2019, 05:04:58 pm
My wife steals small ball peen hammers. I keep buying them and they keep disappearing. Every so often I find one in a random draw in the house. She likes rearranging the pictures and mirrors hence the vanishing hammers.
Be thankful she's choosing a hammer.  Mine'd try a pair of pliers to knock in a picture pin...…. Which is why I don't let her near my tools. Yes dear, my tools.
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: Karla on April 18, 2019, 06:55:25 pm
Pcolbeck, you might know already but the junk/antique shops in Kirkbymoorside have some nice tools; I picked up an excellent East German socket set plus several other items when I worked up there.
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 18, 2019, 08:11:29 pm
Pcolbeck, you might know already but the junk/antique shops in Kirkbymoorside have some nice tools; I picked up an excellent East German socket set plus several other items when I worked up there.

No I didn't know so thanks. Its just up the road from me but not really a place you would visit without a reason. From here you bypass it on either side depending on where you are going.  I'll have to have a trip. Pcolbeck junior goes there a lot as that's where a load of his ex school mates came from and my main visits to Kirby have been as a Dads Taxi delivering him to house parties before he could drive.
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: hatler on April 18, 2019, 09:10:42 pm
There's a few junkies here. (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=100775.0)
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: Mrs Pingu on April 18, 2019, 09:13:07 pm
I bought a technician's bag to put our tools in in a nice control freak's orderly way because the bag for life we'd been transporting them in previously was driving me up the wall. (Think the brazil nut in muesli effect).
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Tim Hall on April 18, 2019, 09:42:00 pm
Hello. My name is Jurek and I am a tool junkie.
Oh. I thought bringing, for example, a set of laser etched lock picks to the pub to show them off was perfectly normal behaviour.
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: drossall on April 18, 2019, 10:59:25 pm
Am I the only one who cringes a little when their wife goes into their tool box...
Happily, my wife assumes that the point of getting a husband is to have someone to make use of the contents of the toolbox. And I am able to argue that various tools were obtained to do this or that job that was so ordained. The latest, which arrived today, being one to split a watch bracelet in order to replace a worn catch on hers :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: Aunt Maud on April 19, 2019, 07:34:24 am
I'm Aunt Maud and I'm an addict for carpentry hand tools and tool chests.

Here's a chest I'm working on during my limited spare time at college, it's made from 200 year old reclaimed Honduran mahogany and a bit of walnut it's 3'x2'x2'.

It's already full of carving tools and a few nice wooden planes.

(https://i.imgur.com/nPuCNf8.jpg)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 19, 2019, 07:48:43 am
That lid fit.
Good for IP65?
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: Aunt Maud on April 19, 2019, 07:54:59 am
Sadly, yes.

Everyone keeps asking why I don't put it on wheels, as it would be easy to move. Which is why I don't put it on wheels, as I don't want someone to come along and easily move it.

Currently it weighs over 100kg.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 19, 2019, 08:05:23 am
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 19, 2019, 08:11:38 am
I bought a technician's bag to put our tools in in a nice control freak's orderly way because the bag for life we'd been transporting them in previously was driving me up the wall. (Think the brazil nut in muesli effect).
An interesting analogy.
Does the bag render your tools radioactive?

ETA - The brazil nut effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_nut) is a thing. In a granular convection kind of way. Or is that what you meant?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 19, 2019, 08:48:12 am
My tool case (https://live.staticflickr.com/8498/8389647745_1f1c7966be_c.jpg) from my freelancing days.
It's a Zero Halliburton case.
A Zero Halliburton case was one of the few items of luggage left intact when the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine terrorists blew up four hijacked airliners at Dawson's Field in 1970.
I've fitted the lid with a pair of gas springs.
When you pop the locks, the lid opens automatically.
The speed of the rise is governed by the weight of the tools stored in the lid.
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: Zipperhead on April 19, 2019, 10:42:00 am
You lot think that you've got problems? I watch youtube videos about restoring old tools (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMrMVIBtqFW6O0-MWq26gqw/videos). (Not that kind Roger, that requires subscription to "specialist" sites).

I'm almost disappointed that the job I need to do on my motorbike this morning won't require the use of my little Wera Zyklops ratchet.
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: Beardy on April 19, 2019, 10:49:11 am
The problem with getting more experienced1 is that each new job doesn’t necessarily mean the need for new tools and so my tool acquisition growth [TAG] has slowed down considerably in recent years. I’m thinking of taking up horological studies to rectify this problem.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on April 19, 2019, 11:25:04 am
My tool case (https://live.staticflickr.com/8498/8389647745_1f1c7966be_c.jpg) from my freelancing days.
It's a Zero Halliburton case.
Oooooh.  Takes me back to my early career as an engineering geologist working in coastal engineering surveying.  The sparkies keeping the marine geophysical kit working had tool cases like this.  Our tools, on the drilling side, were rather bigger and heavier and there was no way you'd put them in a case.  More like a 20' container......
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 19, 2019, 11:28:38 am
You lot think that you've got problems? I watch youtube videos about restoring old tools (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMrMVIBtqFW6O0-MWq26gqw/videos). (Not that kind Roger, that requires subscription to "specialist" sites).

Me too. ScoutCrafter puts one or two out a week.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ1KhUcdotTuz2u3i5RSerA

I especially like Geoffrey Croker's channel. Some nice dry wit.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUOfupxqzuqSL_rfzA3PENQ
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 19, 2019, 11:29:21 am
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That Wera Zyklops ratchet is a delight. I'm just struggling to justify buying one.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Mrs Pingu on April 19, 2019, 01:29:48 pm
I bought a technician's bag to put our tools in in a nice control freak's orderly way because the bag for life we'd been transporting them in previously was driving me up the wall. (Think the brazil nut in muesli effect).
An interesting analogy.
Does the bag render your tools radioactive?

You're gonna have to explain that one to me... ???
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 19, 2019, 01:50:34 pm
I bought a technician's bag to put our tools in in a nice control freak's orderly way because the bag for life we'd been transporting them in previously was driving me up the wall. (Think the brazil nut in muesli effect).
An interesting analogy.
Does the bag render your tools radioactive?

You're gonna have to explain that one to me... ???

Brazil nuts are around 1000 times more radioactive than other foodstuffs.
Also - I've edited my post, coincidentally, while you were posting.  :)
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: Torslanda on April 19, 2019, 03:07:06 pm

Everyone keeps asking why I don't put it on wheels, as it would be easy to move. Which is why I don't put it on wheels, as I don't want someone to come along and easily move it.

Currently it weighs over 100kg.

Bacuase it would become The Luggage . . .
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Mrs Pingu on April 19, 2019, 05:26:51 pm
I bought a technician's bag to put our tools in in a nice control freak's orderly way because the bag for life we'd been transporting them in previously was driving me up the wall. (Think the brazil nut in muesli effect).
An interesting analogy.
Does the bag render your tools radioactive?

ETA - The brazil nut effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_nut) is a thing. In a granular convection kind of way. Or is that what you meant?

Yes, that's what I meant :)
(That's the second time I've posted that phrase today)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 19, 2019, 05:36:09 pm
I bought a technician's bag to put our tools in in a nice control freak's orderly way because the bag for life we'd been transporting them in previously was driving me up the wall. (Think the brazil nut in muesli effect).
An interesting analogy.
Does the bag render your tools radioactive?

ETA - The brazil nut effect (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil_nut) is a thing. In a granular convection kind of way. Or is that what you meant?

Yes, that's what I meant :)
(That's the second time I've posted that phrase today)
S'funny how stuff can become become misinterpreted.
Until I'd looked into it, I'd assumed 'Brazil nut amongst the museli' was a reference to finding something delightful amongst the otherwise dull.
Possibly also true  :)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Mrs Pingu on April 19, 2019, 05:44:15 pm
Just to be contrary, I've never much cared for Brazil nuts ;)

And prolly what I should have explained, the tool I wanted was always at the bottom, being smaller than the BFO hammer etc.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 19, 2019, 05:48:03 pm
I hear you   ;D
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: rafletcher on April 19, 2019, 05:49:35 pm
 I’m extremely allergic to Brazil nuts, and for that matter Walnuts. Near anaphalaxis allergic. I like tools though.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: orienteer on April 19, 2019, 07:29:50 pm
Brazil nuts contain selenium, an essential element rarely found in our soil in Europe. One nut contains double our daily requirement apparently.  :)

Rather expensive at present due to poor harvests.  :(
Title: Re: Conffesions of a tool junkie
Post by: Aunt Maud on April 19, 2019, 07:40:49 pm

Everyone keeps asking why I don't put it on wheels, as it would be easy to move. Which is why I don't put it on wheels, as I don't want someone to come along and easily move it.

Currently it weighs over 100kg.

Bacuase it would become The Someone else's Luggage . . .

FTFY
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 03, 2019, 06:42:55 am
Oops I appear to have bought a Stanley 5803 hand drill on eBay. I already have several hand drills but just look at the gorgeous 1960s styling and its unused!

(http://www.findmytool.co.uk/images/old/drilling/drills/stanley/5803/large1.jpg)

That's not the actual one, it hasn't arrived yet, just a pic of the same model.

I'm going to have to find a matching 1960s Stanley brace now aren't I ...
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on May 03, 2019, 07:19:54 am
Nicely encased to protect your fingers from that nasty pinion.  :)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on May 03, 2019, 07:21:19 am
It's odd, now I can't work out how I survived for years without a couple of Vessel JIS drivers.

I swear tools breed in my shed, though.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 03, 2019, 07:40:55 am
It's odd, now I can't work out how I survived for years without a couple of Vessel JIS drivers.

Nah you just buggered up the heads on your motorbike fasteners without realizing why - just like the rest of us did. I had 20 years of playing with motorbikes along with all my mates and can never remember anyone mentioning JIS screwdrivers. Wondering which weird imperial socket or spanner was needed for some doodah on a Landrover yes but motorbike fasteners, they are just Philips aren't they, hang on that's a bit stiff and oops it's cammed out and rounded it out bugger it  ...
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Tail End Charlie on May 03, 2019, 07:54:31 am
Yeah, there used to be a whole market for Allen bolt kits for specific motorbikes. My first set was for a Z200, still have the impact driver I bought for that job.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on May 03, 2019, 07:55:14 am
It's odd, now I can't work out how I survived for years without a couple of Vessel JIS drivers.

Nah you just buggered up the heads on your motorbike fasteners without realizing why - just like the rest of us did. I had 20 years of playing with motorbikes along with all my mates and can never remember anyone mentioning JIS screwdrivers. Wondering which weird imperial socket or spanner was needed for some doodah on a Landrover yes but motorbike fasteners, they are just Philips aren't they, hang on that's a bit stiff and oops it's cammed out and rounded it out bugger it  ...
Well if you insist on buying Japanese motorcycles.....

Says he, smugly, admiring the new mid torque range torque wrench bought ready for the engine re-furb on his '73 Tiger 750.  Except that it's going to see action first on the '72 Daytona 500 that he picked up, in bits, yesterday, and is currently awaiting unloading from the back of his car.

Glad I kept those Whitworth sockets over all those years since I last had a British bike.  (But I'll have to confess to having had a Honda Revere in the interim, but I didn't need a JIS screwdriver because it never went wrong, and didn't drip oil over my nice clean, painted garage floor).
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on May 03, 2019, 07:56:13 am
Yeah, there used to be a whole market for Allen bolt kits for specific motorbikes. My first set was for a Z200, still have the impact driver I bought for that job.
Still is.  I'm about to buy my second set of these this year.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Tail End Charlie on May 03, 2019, 08:18:22 am
Yeah, there used to be a whole market for Allen bolt kits for specific motorbikes. My first set was for a Z200, still have the impact driver I bought for that job.
Still is.  I'm about to buy my second set of these this year.
Don't know why, but I find that very reassuring to hear, almost like a bit of my youth still lives on.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Tail End Charlie on May 03, 2019, 08:24:24 am
It's odd, now I can't work out how I survived for years without a couple of Vessel JIS drivers.

Nah you just buggered up the heads on your motorbike fasteners without realizing why - just like the rest of us did. I had 20 years of playing with motorbikes along with all my mates and can never remember anyone mentioning JIS screwdrivers. Wondering which weird imperial socket or spanner was needed for some doodah on a Landrover yes but motorbike fasteners, they are just Philips aren't they, hang on that's a bit stiff and oops it's cammed out and rounded it out bugger it  ...
Well if you insist on buying Japanese motorcycles.....

Says he, smugly, admiring the new mid torque range torque wrench bought ready for the engine re-furb on his '73 Tiger 750.  Except that it's going to see action first on the '72 Daytona 500 that he picked up, in bits, yesterday, and is currently awaiting unloading from the back of his car.

Glad I kept those Whitworth sockets over all those years since I last had a British bike.  (But I'll have to confess to having had a Honda Revere in the interim, but I didn't need a JIS screwdriver because it never went wrong, and didn't drip oil over my nice clean, painted garage floor).
I've also kept all my imperial spanners and sockets from the times I worked on old bikes and cars. I never did fully understand the difference between the sizes and threads etc. Stuff I play around with now are all metric which makes life very much easier.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: chrisbainbridge on May 03, 2019, 10:23:49 pm
Not many to swap on a BSA  Bantam!  I swapped everything to hex socket in 1975. But then I also set the points on Deansgate with a bit of fag paper out of the gutter when it had rattled loose!
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on May 04, 2019, 08:40:59 am
I still have (and regularly use) my Britool 1/2" socket set (AF, Whit, Metric), rather like this (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BRITOOL-1-2-Drive-Socket-Set-No-NA760C-Metric-Whitworth-AF-/323451132152?_trksid=p2349526.m4383.l10137.c10&nordt=true&rt=nc&orig_cvip=true), except mine is too early to have namby pamby rubber on it. Bought secondhand in about ....70? for (what was a princely sum of) £5. Often, a poorly made or buggered up metric nut will have a better fit on one of the imperial sockets.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Torslanda on May 04, 2019, 09:33:38 pm
Just borrowed* (ahem!) a cotter pin pressing tool from a trade acquaintance. It's many years old and made from forged steel.

I've been warned to ensure the cotter pin exits downwards 'because the pin comes out like a bullet - and you don't want to be pointing at the window!'

*I'm going to do my best to buy it...
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 05, 2019, 11:13:36 am
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Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: rogerzilla on May 05, 2019, 03:54:44 pm
Just borrowed* (ahem!) a cotter pin pressing tool from a trade acquaintance. It's many years old and made from forged steel.

I've been warned to ensure the cotter pin exits downwards 'because the pin comes out like a bullet - and you don't want to be pointing at the window!'

*I'm going to do my best to buy it...
IME they come out with a moderate single tap if they were put in with anti-seize.  They're put in dry at the bike factory, which is why a cotter press is needed 40 years later.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on May 05, 2019, 05:11:51 pm
I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill!
So did I after 'managing' for years with one of those stands you put a drill into.  One of those stands that always seems to bugger up anything you try to drill vertically.

So I bought the Axminster Craft pillar drill.  Should have done it years ago.  Now I can drill vertically, repeatably, and under total control.  Particularly as I also bought a fairly hefty engineer's vice too.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 05, 2019, 09:13:19 pm
Got these delivered today from Amazon. Specifically for holding lawnmower pull cord recoil springs but I am sure I will find more uses for them, plus they are orange!

(https://www.grip-on.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/127-10_opt.png)

I already have a selection of Mole grips in various sizes mainly picked up from car boot sales but long nose ones don't seem to come up. Weirdly the 10 inch ones are half the price of the otherwise identically 6 inch ones. No idea why.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on May 05, 2019, 09:25:57 pm
So did I after 'managing' for years with one of those stands you put a drill into.  One of those stands that always seems to bugger up anything you try to drill vertically.

So I bought the Axminster Craft pillar drill.  Should have done it years ago.  Now I can drill vertically, repeatably, and under total control.  Particularly as I also bought a fairly hefty engineer's vice too.

On the basis that I needed to drill a great many accurately-positioned holes in aluminium enclosures for a project a couple of years back, I invested in some of Silverline's cheapest chinesium.  It's been a revelation in terms of accuracy, and while it's clearly been engineered down to a price, the chuck doesn't wobble and it seems more than adequate for plastic/wood/sheet aluminium.  If it breaks, I'll happily replace it with a decent one.   :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 05, 2019, 09:32:00 pm
Agreed. I was looking for a decent pillar drill at a not exorbitant price when an unused Aldi one turned up down the road for £30. It was a thoughtful but unwanted gift to a nice bloke who had a 1908 lathe he had restored in his shed (you can imagine what he thought of an Aldi drill). Anyhow its a million times better than using the Wolf drill stand for my electric drill. Of course a week after I bought it a Fobco Star turned up at a sensible price near where I was working so I have that now as well. A different league again and will last forever. Its a restoration project though now as I want to make it nice and whist I sort out the Fobco I am quite happy using the Aldi one, I think they were only about £60 new!

Buy a second hand cheap one then wait patiently for a Fobco, Meddings or Startrite to turn up cheap in your area.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 05, 2019, 10:02:17 pm
Oh and don't discount three phase. You can get cheap  2 to 3 phase converters these days that would also let you control the speed of the drill.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on May 06, 2019, 08:12:16 am
I did lurk for a while looking for a used pillar drill, but those that I thought worth a punt were always miles away.  Yes, yes, I know, I drove 450 miles in a day last week to pick up a 72 Triumph Daytona in bits, but that's different, innit?

The Axminister was about twice the price of the Chinesium ones, and I suppose it's still made in China, but at least the keyless chuck runs true and the stand is fairly mahoosive.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 06, 2019, 08:23:25 am
I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill! I wanna pillar drill!
So did I after 'managing' for years with one of those stands you put a drill into.  One of those stands that always seems to bugger up anything you try to drill vertically.

So I bought the Axminster Craft pillar drill.  Should have done it years ago.  Now I can drill vertically, repeatably, and under total control.  Particularly as I also bought a fairly hefty engineer's vice too.

I've been using a 30-year-old Bosch hand drill in a 40-year-old E.German drill stand that's built like a tank. It'll drill vertically like a good'un and it's got a 13mm throat, like many of the pillar drills out there, and I can even mount the baseplate backwards, turn the pillar through 180° and drill down beside the bench into tall pieces. However I only have electronic speed reduction, which doesn't give me full power on low speeds, and I haven't got a tilting base-plate.  For my next build I need to drill 49 5mm holes at a consistent 70° to the workpiece and I'm not looking forward to it.  Doing it with a handheld drill & jig doesn't really appeal to me.

They aren't particularly expensive. Think I'll have a look around & start the domestic propaganda machine. After all, the missus got a new chainsaw last month.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: CommuteTooFar on May 06, 2019, 02:17:28 pm
I had a cheap pillar drill once.  Then the roof of the shed blew off. It is now a lump of rust.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: CommuteTooFar on May 06, 2019, 02:28:51 pm
I know I am not a tool junkie I have a table saw that arrived last month still in its box.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 07, 2019, 08:41:32 am
I did a bit of research yesterday and concluded that unless you pay €€€€ for a pillar drill you get rubbish. So what else is new?

Most tellingly, there are two kinds of transmission, 2-pulley and 3-pulley. The cheap models have two conical pulleys and you're meant to shift the belt up & down to change speed, keeping it horizontal, otherwise it wears out prematurely. 3-pulley machines have an intermediate pulley and two belts: you can get many more speeds and the belts alway stay horizontal. The cheap pulleys are likely plastic, too, vs. steel in the decent kit.

Most of them now have self-tightening chucks, which are a bastard to get drills out of after a heavy job. I haven't yet got arthritis in my hands but I do have tendons and things that go click and hurt (arthritis after all, maybe?), and I want a nice big chuck key, ta very much.

On some of them (e.g. Scheppach) the tilting table is so constructed that you can't get a spanner or a socket onto the hex-head bolt that secures it.

On none of the models I looked at will the table tilt towards the user, so that if you have a series of slanting holes to drill in a wide piece you're screwed. You get a single axis only, perpendicular to the column. Maybe the higher-end models allow 2 axes, but my wallet starts to whimper when I look at them.

That's about it. I'll stick with my old Bosch/GDR model and use jigs.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 08, 2019, 09:17:42 pm
Most old high quality pillar drills have only two pulleys and you move the belt to change speed. Doesnt make them rubish. A good pillar drill was always expensive there really isnt a way of making a good cheap one.
Even a hand cranked Stanley Continental breast drill was £70 in 1980.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 09, 2019, 09:08:01 am
I'll admit I'm not all that familiar with pillar drills - as I wrote, I haven't got one and I've never had one.  I'm just passing on what I gleaned from looking at the lower end. For what I'm doing, this looks quite adequate:

https://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-craft-ac220rd-bench-radial-drill-105107

but I'd love a test drive before buying.

That Stanley was quite a piece of kit, wasn't it?  I've seen a few of those in joiners' kit and on fleamarkets, but I've never been tempted.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on May 09, 2019, 01:37:58 pm
I'll admit I'm not all that familiar with pillar drills - as I wrote, I haven't got one and I've never had one.  I'm just passing on what I gleaned from looking at the lower end. For what I'm doing, this looks quite adequate:

https://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-craft-ac220rd-bench-radial-drill-105107

but I'd love a test drive before buying.

That Stanley was quite a piece of kit, wasn't it?  I've seen a few of those in joiners' kit and on fleamarkets, but I've never been tempted.
I had something very similar from Axminster, until I gave it away about a year ago. (It had lain, unused, in the cupboard under my stairs for around 13 years).
It was a good piece of kit.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on May 09, 2019, 05:25:01 pm
Just found out about these sprint tools  today https://www.screwfix.com/p/spring-tools-wwa1105-spring-tools-woodworking-set-5-pieces/8831x

You need to see the vid here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjBu-tWdqoc to see them in use, the UK site (www.springtools.co.uk) doesn't seem to be up at the moment, I'm waiting for that to come back on stream before adding to the Very Necessary Tool addiction.

Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Wobbly John on May 09, 2019, 07:05:09 pm
A tip for getting pillar drills back perpendicular to the table if you have tilted it: Bend a 'Z' shape, only with right angledish corners about 2-3" sides, from stiff wire. put one end in the chuck, and adjust table height until the other end touches it. turn chuck by hand and fettle until the 'pointer' end just touches the table 360deg.  ;)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: redshift on May 09, 2019, 09:06:23 pm
A tip for getting pillar drills back perpendicular to the table if you have tilted it: Bend a 'Z' shape, only with right angledish corners about 2-3" sides, from stiff wire. put one end in the chuck, and adjust table height until the other end touches it. turn chuck by hand and fettle until the 'pointer' end just touches the table 360deg.  ;)

"Sorry chaps, I can't come out tonight' cos I'm tramming my drill press..."

Classy Excuses, No. 211 in an occasional series.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on May 09, 2019, 09:10:22 pm
A tip for getting pillar drills back perpendicular to the table if you have tilted it: Bend a 'Z' shape, only with right angledish corners about 2-3" sides, from stiff wire. put one end in the chuck, and adjust table height until the other end touches it. turn chuck by hand and fettle until the 'pointer' end just touches the table 360deg.  ;)

"Sorry chaps, I can't come out tonight' cos I'm tramming my drill press..."

Classy Excuses, No. 211 in an occasional series.

There was a time when that was a regular event around these parts...
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on May 09, 2019, 09:15:15 pm
A tip for getting pillar drills back perpendicular to the table if you have tilted it: Bend a 'Z' shape, only with right angledish corners about 2-3" sides, from stiff wire. put one end in the chuck, and adjust table height until the other end touches it. turn chuck by hand and fettle until the 'pointer' end just touches the table 360deg.  ;)

"Sorry chaps, I can't come out tonight' cos I'm tramming my drill press..."

Classy Excuses, No. 211 in an occasional series.

There was a time when that was a regular event around these parts...

My boss's daughter has moved into new premises with her boyfriend recently.
He has helped them move.
His words:
They cannot fit a plug.

It's endemic.
How did that happen?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on May 09, 2019, 09:26:53 pm
They cannot fit a plug.

It's endemic.
How did that happen?

*googles*  The Plugs And Sockets (Safety) Regulations 1994

Ever since then appliances have had to be supplied with an appropriate plug, with moulded plugs proliferating soon afterwards.  The tail end of Gen X were only just old enough to be competent with mains electricity while appliances were still being supplied with bare flex.

And of course nobody since can afford to own a house, so have no DIY skills to speak of by default.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: redshift on May 09, 2019, 09:34:14 pm
When we became a 'service economy,' stopped manufacturing and stopped teaching practical science and engineering in schools, that's when.  In my industry (Broadcast Engineering, which is a bit niche, I know) there's almost a 30-year skills gap.  We have to teach basic soldering, fault-finding and suchlike to graduates - stuff I learned in school (or at least, while I was school-age).

Oh, and definitely since they started putting moulded plugs onto appliances prior to sale - that's very much a lost skill for lots of millennials.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on May 09, 2019, 09:47:16 pm
There have been a couple of times when I've been bemused by my peers not knowing how to wire a plug.  I mean, sure, I've had an affinity for electrons[1] since a formative age and naturally tended towards situations where those skills were actually used, but we *were* taught this stuff in school.  I suppose if you've basically never needed to do it, you just recycle the neurons.


[1] I'm positive.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: drossall on May 09, 2019, 10:48:15 pm
They cannot fit a plug.
I think I commented on this to a thread involving Kim before. As physics students around 1980, we got a lecture on wiring plugs, because so many post-graduates were electrocuting themselves.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 10, 2019, 08:01:13 am
A tip for getting pillar drills back perpendicular to the table if you have tilted it: Bend a 'Z' shape, only with right angledish corners about 2-3" sides, from stiff wire. put one end in the chuck, and adjust table height until the other end touches it. turn chuck by hand and fettle until the 'pointer' end just touches the table 360deg.  ;)

Told yiz all the Universe would fall apart without wire coathangers.

Didn't one of the Brontesaurus sisters write a book called Coathanger Abbey?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on May 10, 2019, 08:01:31 am
I learned plug wiring from an early age because my late dad was red-green colour blind (back when wiring was red and black).  He needed someone to show him which one was the red.  It also stopped him from being called up into the RAF in WW2, so they sent him down the mines to join the rest of the men in his family.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 10, 2019, 08:58:10 am
They cannot fit a plug.
I think I commented on this to a thread involving Kim before. As physics students around 1980, we got a lecture on wiring plugs, because so many post-graduates were electrocuting themselves.

Dear oh lor. I think we got that lesson at school when I was 9.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 10, 2019, 10:06:21 am
Getting back to pillock drills, I've seen a couple of videos where folk seemed quite happy with the (deep breath) Titan TTB541DBT (https://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttb541dbt-530mm-drill-press-230v/17643) (breathe in). It fits my budgetary bracket just now.

Any opinions?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Tim Hall on May 10, 2019, 10:25:05 am
They cannot fit a plug.
I think I commented on this to a thread involving Kim before. As physics students around 1980, we got a lecture on wiring plugs, because so many post-graduates were electrocuting themselves.

Dear oh lor. I think we got that lesson at school when I was 9.
We teach it at Scouts from time to time. I learnt it from my Ladybird Book of Electricity. Or if I didn't, I certainly used said tome to advise my Mum which size fuse was needed in the washing machine.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: drossall on May 10, 2019, 10:39:44 am
Good plan. I might do that (for the Skills Challenge of course). Getting the right fuse is almost a separate task!
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on May 10, 2019, 12:38:58 pm
I happened to be in Homebase and saw one of these

https://uk.ryobitools.eu/power-tools/drilling-and-screwdriving/drill-press/rdp102l/rdp102l-1/ which is also in the same price bracket (https://www.homebase.co.uk/ryobi-390w-drill-press-rdp102l_p397232)

It seemed to be better quality than some of the Titan stuff I've seen, although obv it varies from item to item. I liked the front placed switch, too. I liked the motor was lower and more likely genuine wattage than the Titan.

I also managed not to buy it.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on May 10, 2019, 01:11:24 pm
Good plan. I might do that (for the Skills Challenge of course). Getting the right fuse is almost a separate task!

Advice on fuses changed at some point, with 3A or 13A now covering most options[1].

The important thing is to bear in mind that the job of the plug fuse is simply to protect the cable.  The appliance will, if necessary, have its own protection downstream of the cable entry.


[1] The notable exception being the IEC C13 'kettle lead', which probably merits a 10A fuse in accordance with the connector rating.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Beardy on May 10, 2019, 02:12:21 pm
Good plan. I might do that (for the Skills Challenge of course). Getting the right fuse is almost a separate task!

Advice on fuses changed at some point, with 3A or 13A now covering most options[1].

The important thing is to bear in mind that the job of the plug fuse is simply to protect the cable.  The appliance willshould have, if necessary, have its own protection downstream of the cable entry.


[1] The notable exception being the IEC C13 'kettle lead', which probably merits a 10A fuse in accordance with the connector rating.
corrected that for you.  :)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Tim Hall on May 10, 2019, 02:40:06 pm
<stuff about wiring plugs>

Good plan. I might do that (for the Skills Challenge of course). Getting the right fuse is almost a separate task!

Advice on fuses changed at some point, with 3A or 13A now covering most options[1].

The important thing is to bear in mind that the job of the plug fuse is simply to protect the cable.  The appliance will, if necessary, have its own protection downstream of the cable entry.


[1] The notable exception being the IEC C13 'kettle lead', which probably merits a 10A fuse in accordance with the connector rating.
We combined The Wiring of Plugs* with a Brief Introduction to Ironing. This then morphed into a Short Discussion on Fuses and Fire in The Home when an iron burst into flames.


* This is the cord grip, which in your case you have not got.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 10, 2019, 02:48:57 pm
I happened to be in Homebase and saw one of these

https://uk.ryobitools.eu/power-tools/drilling-and-screwdriving/drill-press/rdp102l/rdp102l-1/ which is also in the same price bracket (https://www.homebase.co.uk/ryobi-390w-drill-press-rdp102l_p397232)

It seemed to be better quality than some of the Titan stuff I've seen, although obv it varies from item to item. I liked the front placed switch, too. I liked the motor was lower and more likely genuine wattage than the Titan.

I also managed not to buy it.

I've seen some negative YouTube crits of that Ryobi - an ungreased spindle bearing on one and one of the sockets that take the raising & lowering handles left unthreaded on another. Also a very flimsy pulley cover on top and a hard-to-reach belt tensioning wheel.  Belt tensioning looks very easy on the Titan.

I'll have a gander at the Titan next time I'm in town.  It's hard to find a shop around here that actually has such items in stock, you mostly get "you order it and we'll get it in".
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Mr Larrington on May 10, 2019, 03:29:25 pm
A tip for getting pillar drills back perpendicular to the table if you have tilted it: Bend a 'Z' shape, only with right angledish corners about 2-3" sides, from stiff wire. put one end in the chuck, and adjust table height until the other end touches it. turn chuck by hand and fettle until the 'pointer' end just touches the table 360deg.  ;)

Told yiz all the Universe would fall apart without wire coathangers.

Didn't one of the Brontesaurus sisters write a book called Coathanger Abbey?

No, Coathanger Abbey was by Jane Austin-Westminster.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on May 10, 2019, 08:45:47 pm
They cannot fit a plug.
I think I commented on this to a thread involving Kim before. As physics students around 1980, we got a lecture on wiring plugs, because so many post-graduates were electrocuting themselves.
My father taught me how to wire a plug, probably around the time I was ~ 10 years old, and wires were red black and green. He was in the employ of Hoover at that time.
What he didn't teach me and, to be fair, I only discovered this very recently, is to be very generous with the length of earth wire which you leave inside the plug.
That way, when things have gone awry, and the flex has been ripped away from the plug, the last remaining connection is the earth. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: hubner on May 12, 2019, 10:38:14 am
I'm not sure why being able to wire a plug is having knowledge about electrics.

Wiring a plug is just cutting and stripping wires and doing up a few screws! Anyone can do that just by following a diagram and instructions.

Quote
My boss's daughter has moved into new premises with her boyfriend recently.
He has helped them move.
His words:
They cannot fit a plug.

It's endemic.
How did that happen?

 If somebody doesn't know how to do it, it's probably they've never seen it done (and never had the need to wire a plug, as mentioned), it doesn't mean they don't have the ability to do it once they know how.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on May 12, 2019, 05:35:08 pm
What he didn't teach me and, to be fair, I only discovered this very recently, is to be very generous with the length of earth wire which you leave inside the plug.
That way, when things have gone awry, and the flex has been ripped away from the plug, the last remaining connection is the earth. :thumbsup:

This is one of the many safety features of BS1363.  If you strip the wires to the correct length (usually specified on the little bit of cardboard that comes with new plugs) for the channel inside the plug, the earth always gets yanked out last.

I remember my parents having some (presumably non-compliant) plugs where the terminals were all in a neat horizontal row.  Much easier to strip the wires to the right length, and at the time I wondered why all plugs weren't made that way.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: CommuteTooFar on May 13, 2019, 03:18:00 pm
Today I unpacked my Evolution Rage Table Saw.  Fiddly slightly awkward process, I dropped two bolts into the machine. Found one when i turned it over. Not sure where the other has gone.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 13, 2019, 04:04:40 pm
Health to use it, as me Da would always say.  Wish I still had my old Lurem table saw combo. You'd have a time turning it upside down, it weighed 300 kilos.

Anyway, I'm about to go and unpack the Titan drill press I just splurged on. It seemed to come out of the YT reviews OK.

Missus did the dirty on me just as I was turning into the Brico Depôt car park: "I could use a new pair of running shoes..."  :-\  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on May 13, 2019, 04:13:01 pm
Today I unpacked my Evolution Rage Table Saw.  Fiddly slightly awkward process, I dropped two bolts into the machine. Found one when i turned it over. Not sure where the other has gone.

It's hiding inside the venturi tube.

This piece of wisdom is a hangover from many years ago when I was putting a head back together and bolted the air intakes to the horizontal twin Webber DCOE probably that bit too late at night and, after probably half hour of searching, decided it must have fallen on the floor. As has been by now established, it hadn't and got sucked in a mile or so down the road :(

Even if the saw doesn't have a venturi tube, it will have something functionally similar.

In other news I dug up my Wolfcraft saw/router table over the weekend, it's a bench that allows you to convert a skill saw into a table saw, router into table router. While not perfect it does a job and has - thus far - prevented a splurge on something I have no room for.

ETA something like this (http://www.wolfcraft.com/en/products/p/machine_tables-2/machine_tables_master_cut_1500/s/p/index.html). only mine has a router hole and mount in it, too.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on May 13, 2019, 06:16:35 pm
Today I unpacked my Evolution Rage Table Saw.  Fiddly slightly awkward process, I dropped two bolts into the machine. Found one when i turned it over. Not sure where the other has gone.
In other news I dug up my Wolfcraft saw/router table over the weekend, it's a bench that allows you to convert a skill saw into a table saw, router into table router. While not perfect it does a job and has - thus far - prevented a splurge on something I have no room for.

ETA something like this (http://www.wolfcraft.com/en/products/p/machine_tables-2/machine_tables_master_cut_1500/s/p/index.html). only mine has a router hole and mount in it, too.
Drool...……………..
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 13, 2019, 06:35:17 pm
In other news I dug up my Wolfcraft saw/router table over the weekend, it's a bench that allows you to convert a skill saw into a table saw, router into table router. While not perfect it does a job and has - thus far - prevented a splurge on something I have no room for.

ETA something like this (http://www.wolfcraft.com/en/products/p/machine_tables-2/machine_tables_master_cut_1500/s/p/index.html). only mine has a router hole and mount in it, too.

I picked up quite a nice Skil circular saw for £10 at a car boot sale the other week with the idea of doing a DIY version of that. Loads of plans and ideas for doing this on Youtube, some very involved that seem to require you already having a table saw to make them which kind of defeats the object ....
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on May 13, 2019, 08:25:04 pm
Well, when I bought it, it was sub-£100 (£70 comes to mind?) and it is now £140 (https://www.screwfix.com/p/wolfcraft-master-cut-1500-multifunction-workbench/9647p) - according to the blurb it is compatible with routers, although I can't see the cutouts I have (circle centre with four radial tracks to secure the device) if it does still work for that, it is really worth having.

I got mine to replicate some victorian mouldings, so it paid for itself. It isn't perfect, but it is bloody good, and with the addition of a clamp behind the guides (to avoid any play) it can be a precision bit of kit, and it folds down. One of the nicest aspects is the PROPER on/off control you get with it.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Wobbly John on May 13, 2019, 09:02:14 pm
They cannot fit a plug.
I think I commented on this to a thread involving Kim before. As physics students around 1980, we got a lecture on wiring plugs, because so many post-graduates were electrocuting themselves.

Dear oh lor. I think we got that lesson at school when I was 9.
We teach it at Scouts from time to time. I learnt it from my Ladybird Book of Electricity. Or if I didn't, I certainly used said tome to advise my Mum which size fuse was needed in the washing machine.

Plug fitting is still taught on most Science sylabusses. CLEAPSS - the school science safety advisors, say that you should bend the earth pin so that it cannot be plugged in, if students are wiring plugs.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 13, 2019, 09:09:22 pm
Nobody does that in Aussie schools. So they take time away from scholastic subjects to teach this sort of thing here? Whatever floats your boat.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Wobbly John on May 13, 2019, 09:15:12 pm
Well, when I bought it, it was sub-£100 (£70 comes to mind?) and it is now £140 (https://www.screwfix.com/p/wolfcraft-master-cut-1500-multifunction-workbench/9647p) - according to the blurb it is compatible with routers, although I can't see the cutouts I have (circle centre with four radial tracks to secure the device) if it does still work for that, it is really worth having.

I got mine to replicate some victorian mouldings, so it paid for itself. It isn't perfect, but it is bloody good, and with the addition of a clamp behind the guides (to avoid any play) it can be a precision bit of kit, and it folds down. One of the nicest aspects is the PROPER on/off control you get with it.

I have 2 circular saw tables in my garage - I bought one for £30 then I managed to obtain a better one that was destined for a skip (for free). My table router was £32 and before I had them, I had a Workmate style table with drop-in circular saw and router plates - I think it cost me £5  :demon:

I splashed out £50 on a unused Makita sliding compound mitre saw  - still boxed and complete with folding table (Closed bid auction and nobody else bid on it  ;)), and also £50 on my Drummond metal lathe, which is over 100 years old!  :o
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Wobbly John on May 13, 2019, 09:19:20 pm
Nobody does that in Aussie schools. So they take time away from scholastic subjects to teach this sort of thing here? Whatever floats your boat.

Isn't there legal impications about fitting your own plugs in Aus?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 13, 2019, 09:31:01 pm
Indeed, Aussies are much less tolerant than Brits regarding dodgy DIY of stuff that can kill the next (unsuspecting) owner.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Tim Hall on May 13, 2019, 09:59:59 pm
Indeed, Aussies are much less tolerant than Brits regarding dodgy DIY of stuff that can kill the next (unsuspecting) owner.
Sockets in bathrooms are what made me twitch when I was in Sydney.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 13, 2019, 10:06:41 pm
They are installed properly and earth leakage devices have been mandatory since 1991. It seemed really odd to me that Brits didn't insist on reliable wiring and that charging of toothbrushes and shavers has to be done outside the bathroom.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on May 13, 2019, 10:22:21 pm
Plug fitting is still taught on most Science sylabusses. CLEAPSS - the school science safety advisors, say that you should bend the earth pin so that it cannot be plugged in, if students are wiring plugs.

I remember a set of those lurking in the physics prep room when I was doing my A-levels.  The dangling end of the cable was properly insulated, too.  Seemed like overkill compared to just turning the power off in the classroom, as they did when I was taught, but never underestimate the power of year 9s armed with stupidity.

My main memory of the domestic electricity part of the syllabus was the teacher (who was, admittedly, a bit rubbish) failing to come up with a convincing reason for ring mains.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Tim Hall on May 13, 2019, 10:23:41 pm
They are installed properly and earth leakage devices have been mandatory since 1991. It seemed really odd to me that Brits didn't insist on reliable wiring and that charging of toothbrushes and shavers has to be done outside the bathroom.
Toothbrush charging and shavers can be done in the bathroom in the UK, as it uses special magica built in isolation transformer. 
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: bludger on May 13, 2019, 10:26:05 pm
Nobody does that in Aussie schools. So they take time away from scholastic subjects to teach this sort of thing here? Whatever floats your boat.

It's more that you learn to apply scholastic knowledge via practical implementation. When I work with older people they can often give me very thorough breakdowns of how car petrol engines work, as that is the case study used in their maths and science lessons, for example.

I can't remember if I was taught wiring plugs in DT - in any case my dad taught me how with cheapo electronics brought back from the middle east 💁‍♂️
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on May 13, 2019, 10:28:30 pm
They are installed properly and earth leakage devices have been mandatory since 1991. It seemed really odd to me that Brits didn't insist on reliable wiring and that charging of toothbrushes and shavers has to be done outside the bathroom.

We're allowed sockets outside the Safe Area (some official definition of what you're likely to reach with a limb immersed in a bath or sink, I think), though many British bathrooms are small enough that the whole room counts.

We're also allowed low-current sockets fed through an isolating transformer within the safe area:  The two pin ones that tend to have "Shavers only" written on them in large friendly letters.

I'm not sure if an appropriately IP-rated socket (I'm thinking Ceeform, or one of those outdoor sockets that enclose the plug) would be permitted if you wanted to install a washing machine or something, but it would seem like a perfectly reasonable thing to do.


It's ridiculous when you look at what's normal and ordinary in kitchens.  Put it out of splash range and require an RCD, sorted.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Wobbly John on May 13, 2019, 10:49:10 pm
Plug fitting is still taught on most Science sylabusses. CLEAPSS - the school science safety advisors, say that you should bend the earth pin so that it cannot be plugged in, if students are wiring plugs.

I remember a set of those lurking in the physics prep room when I was doing my A-levels.  The dangling end of the cable was properly insulated, too.  Seemed like overkill compared to just turning the power off in the classroom, as they did when I was taught, but never underestimate the power of year 9s armed with stupidity.

My main memory of the domestic electricity part of the syllabus was the teacher (who was, admittedly, a bit rubbish) failing to come up with a convincing reason for ring mains.

Actually, the recomendation is to bend the earth pin (I drilled and pop riveted ours) AND turn the power off...  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 13, 2019, 11:40:47 pm
So, can you use a decent hairdryer in a small British bathroom?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on May 13, 2019, 11:50:37 pm
So, can you use a decent hairdryer in a small British bathroom?

Only a permanently installed one, I think.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Beardy on May 14, 2019, 08:29:13 am
Plug fitting is still taught on most Science sylabusses. CLEAPSS - the school science safety advisors, say that you should bend the earth pin so that it cannot be plugged in, if students are wiring plugs.

I remember a set of those lurking in the physics prep room when I was doing my A-levels.  The dangling end of the cable was properly insulated, too.  Seemed like overkill compared to just turning the power off in the classroom, as they did when I was taught, but never underestimate the power of year 9s armed with stupidity.

My main memory of the domestic electricity part of the syllabus was the teacher (who was, admittedly, a bit rubbish) failing to come up with a convincing reason for ring mains.
To be fair to him, I don’t believe their is a convincing reason for ring mains.

ETA . Apologies for that, I’ve made an assumption that it was a male teacher.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 14, 2019, 10:00:12 am
Nobody does [wiring plugs] in Aussie schools. So they take time away from scholastic subjects to teach this sort of thing here? Whatever floats your boat.

When we did it at school I was startled to be learning about something that actually applied to real life. It felt weird.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 14, 2019, 10:05:03 am
Returning to earth after purchasing the Titan drill press, I have realized that I'm going to have to remodel a significant chunk of my workshop to accommodate it, or grow 20cm and another elbow joint to shift the belts on the pulleys.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on May 14, 2019, 10:27:18 am
In the UK you can buy an electric toothbrush which you're expected to charge from a shaver socket but the toothbrush plug is actually a schuko (or something of that ilk) which only fits with a bit of shoving and even then not completely.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 14, 2019, 11:30:53 am
Returning to earth after purchasing the Titan drill press, I have realized that I'm going to have to remodel a significant chunk of my workshop to accommodate it, or grow 20cm and another elbow joint to shift the belts on the pulleys.

May I suggest folding steps ?

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71gr7hebs1L._SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on May 14, 2019, 11:47:39 am
In the UK you can buy an electric toothbrush which you're expected to charge from a shaver socket but the toothbrush plug is actually a schuko (or something of that ilk) which only fits with a bit of shoving and even then not completely.

One of our bathrooms has an electric towel rail (about 60 watts) that's wired to a fused spur box - I chopped the plug off the toothbrush base and just wired it into the same spur box.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 14, 2019, 11:52:08 am
Returning to earth after purchasing the Titan drill press, I have realized that I'm going to have to remodel a significant chunk of my workshop to accommodate it, or grow 20cm and another elbow joint to shift the belts on the pulleys.

May I suggest folding steps ?

I have hop-ups & such, but I need to get round the side of the thing too.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on May 14, 2019, 12:22:35 pm
Plug fitting is still taught on most Science sylabusses. CLEAPSS - the school science safety advisors, say that you should bend the earth pin so that it cannot be plugged in, if students are wiring plugs.

I remember a set of those lurking in the physics prep room when I was doing my A-levels.  The dangling end of the cable was properly insulated, too.  Seemed like overkill compared to just turning the power off in the classroom, as they did when I was taught, but never underestimate the power of year 9s armed with stupidity.

My main memory of the domestic electricity part of the syllabus was the teacher (who was, admittedly, a bit rubbish) failing to come up with a convincing reason for ring mains.
To be fair to him, I don’t believe their is a convincing reason for ring mains.

ETA . Apologies for that, I’ve made an assumption that it was a male teacher.

Well yes.  The traditional excuse is that they reduce the amount of copper needed, which was important when these things were standardised after the war.  I suspect the reason we haven't moved over to 16A radials is that troubleshooting and testing the things keeps electricians in business.

And yes, the teacher in question was indeed female.  That's not why she was a bit rubbish.  (That was because she was a) a chemist being made to teach physics  and  b) straight out of teacher-training camp, and not yet wise in the ways of class control.)  I had an inspirationally brilliant female physics/electronics teacher in subsequent years.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 16, 2019, 01:23:14 pm
Plug fitting is still taught on most Science sylabusses. CLEAPSS - the school science safety advisors, say that you should bend the earth pin so that it cannot be plugged in, if students are wiring plugs.

I remember a set of those lurking in the physics prep room when I was doing my A-levels.  The dangling end of the cable was properly insulated, too.  Seemed like overkill compared to just turning the power off in the classroom, as they did when I was taught, but never underestimate the power of year 9s armed with stupidity.

My main memory of the domestic electricity part of the syllabus was the teacher (who was, admittedly, a bit rubbish) failing to come up with a convincing reason for ring mains.
To be fair to him, I don’t believe their is a convincing reason for ring mains.

ETA . Apologies for that, I’ve made an assumption that it was a male teacher.

Well yes.  The traditional excuse is that they reduce the amount of copper needed, which was important when these things were standardised after the war.  I suspect the reason we haven't moved over to 16A radials is that troubleshooting and testing the things keeps electricians in business.

And yes, the teacher in question was indeed female.  That's not why she was a bit rubbish.  (That was because she was a) a chemist being made to teach physics  and  b) straight out of teacher-training camp, and not yet wise in the ways of class control.)  I had an inspirationally brilliant female physics/electronics teacher in subsequent years.
[disclaimer: I am a bit rubbish at this elextrickery business]
I thought there was a safety justification, based on trying to restrict the max length of a spur and load on a spur (or radial)?
A radial, by its nature, can carry a higher load. It will also not get extended, unless you have a real bodger taking spurs and loops off the ring.

A radial might get extended, then extended . . .

The solution to that would be to have mandatory max lengths/load combinations; not beyond the bounds of testing equip I would have thought.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Mr Larrington on May 17, 2019, 11:34:49 am
There is a story that the ring main came about as a result of a post-WW2 shortage of copper, but Wikinaccurate claims this is A Myth.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 17, 2019, 04:24:13 pm
I am unreasonably pleased because Screwfix have delivered a Makita belt sander and 1/3 sheet sander this afternoon. I have never had a belt sander before, it's a beast! Hopefully the weather stays dry and I can try it out sorting out the garden table that hasn't been refinished for 10 years.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Wobbly John on May 17, 2019, 09:28:22 pm
I am unreasonably pleased because Screwfix have delivered a Makita belt sander and 1/3 sheet sander this afternoon. I have never had a belt sander before, it's a beast! Hopefully the weather stays dry and I can try it out sorting out the garden table that hasn't been refinished for 10 years.

If you have a pressure washer, start with that.  ;)

Remember to keep the cable well out of the way of belt sanders. I have a old version of the Makita belt sander, which is still compatable with current belts, sole-plate pad etc, but seems to weigh twice as much, and be more powerful (we have a newer one at work, thus the abilty to compare).
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 17, 2019, 09:49:35 pm
Thanks. I do have a pressure washer, did the table last spring. The Makita I bought is an M9400 which is from their red DIY range. Never had anything but blue Makita before but this gets good reviews. Opinion seems to be its based on an older blue 9400 but made in China. That isn't necessarily a bad thing since the old ones were apparantly hard to kill, we will see. The 1/3 sheet sander is a blue Makita as there was only £5 difference between that and the red one rather than £200 between the red and blue belt sanders! My last 1/3 sheet sander was some unknown brand I got form B&Q or Homebase 20 years ago and its only just given up the ghost so I hope this one lasts me out :)

Thanks for the warning re teh cable, I managed to cut the hedge trimmer cable twice last year! Good job I always fit RCDs to outside cable :)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 18, 2019, 09:38:49 am
I am unreasonably pleased because Screwfix have delivered a Makita belt sander and 1/3 sheet sander this afternoon. I have never had a belt sander before, it's a beast! Hopefully the weather stays dry and I can try it out sorting out the garden table that hasn't been refinished for 10 years.

Practise on a few bits of scrap first. Newton's 3rd law applies.

https://youtu.be/F9hCPe4KNtg
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on May 18, 2019, 09:58:47 am
I am unreasonably pleased because Screwfix have delivered a Makita belt sander and 1/3 sheet sander this afternoon. I have never had a belt sander before, it's a beast! Hopefully the weather stays dry and I can try it out sorting out the garden table that hasn't been refinished for 10 years.

Practise on a few bits of scrap first. Newton's 3rd law applies.

https://youtu.be/F9hCPe4KNtg
We used to do this with a pair of DeWalts, in the museum workshop where I was once employed.
They have a surprising amount of grunt.
See also: Deploying a compressed airline to spin up the outer race of a bearing, before dropping said bearing onto a concrete floor...
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 18, 2019, 10:43:00 am
See also: Deploying a compressed airline to spin up the outer race of a bearing, before dropping said bearing onto a concrete floor...

Well now, I've got all of those... the bearings I have are a bit small, though.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on May 18, 2019, 11:21:17 am
See also: Deploying a compressed airline to spin up the outer race of a bearing, before dropping said bearing onto a concrete floor...

Well now, I've got all of those... the bearings I have are a bit small, though.
You need a bearing with an ID of ~ 25mm or more.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 18, 2019, 12:47:19 pm
Yeah, all mine are 25mm OD
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 23, 2019, 04:48:02 pm
Bosch how I love thee. Delta sander that's at least 10 years old and the pad has de-laminated, glued it back together but I doubt it will hold. Quick Google and a new pad delivered today.
Try that with your B&Q own brand and the like, actually I have with sliding mitre saw that was only three years old, I needed a part and B&Q couldn't even tell me who made the damn thing never mind get a spare.
Bosch even have exploded diagrams on their web site where you can find the exact part number you need.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 25, 2019, 04:06:21 pm
Nipped over to the local DIY hole for some work gloves I need and came back with the gloves, a selection of bolts, nuts, washers and wing-nuts, then added one of those el cheapo angle grinders because, as somebody put it, at 12€90 why not plus a bunch of discs and a bill for 57€. Oh, missus went to and got some dog treats. Bloody expensive, dog treats.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 27, 2019, 08:27:10 am
Re the el cheapo angle grinder: it works but (a) the return spring in the switch is so strong that it slides the untextured body out of my hand unless I pull back against it with the side handle, (b) it makes a racket to wake the dead and (c) the odour of ozone is impressive.  That may diminish as the brushes wear in.

I reckon this'll mostly serve to push me towards buying a decent one.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 27, 2019, 11:52:58 am
Yes similar experience here. I have a big Makita angle grinder and a Powerline or some such cheapo little one. The Powerline is on borrowed time until it gets replaced by a Makita. Small decent angle grinders aren't that expensive. I replaced my old cheap 1/3 sheet sander with a Makita one last week, big improvement especially in noise levels and vibration !
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 27, 2019, 12:15:33 pm
Mine was mostly a lock for the stable of a bolted horse: some of the piping we had to get through last Friday were hard to get at with a hacksaw. This one'll do for the next water-heater, in 15 years or so if I'm still around.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: hairyhippy on June 09, 2019, 09:39:42 pm
Yep. I have a tool problem. I have work tools. Upstairs tools. Downstairs tools. Shed 1 tools. Shed 2 tools. Oh and the garage.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on June 10, 2019, 09:01:12 am
Yep. I have a tool problem. I have work tools. Upstairs tools. Downstairs tools. Shed 1 tools. Shed 2 tools. Oh and the garage.

Crikey. I have workshop & house tools and a basic rule that if a workshop tool goes into the house then it goes back to the shop before the day's out.  The converse does not apply.

Meanwhile, anyone here got a plunge/track saw?  They look to be incredibly useful.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on June 10, 2019, 09:34:09 am
A real one or a hankering for one?

With a decent skill saw along with sufficient clamps to create a guide it's hard to justify the cost or storage space. If I was doing it as a day job, it'd be a slam dunk.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: CommuteTooFar on June 10, 2019, 10:04:36 am
Before buying a track saw its worth having a look at the tracks available.

There are two issues.  Some tracks are usable by other brands of saw. Festool, Makita and I believe Evolution can run on each others tracks.
So with care you can buy cheaper tracks for your saw.

The cheapest saws Aldi/Lidl, Screwfix etc often come with very short tracks. So if your plan is to rip full size sheets you may need to join four sections of track.

Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on June 10, 2019, 12:22:13 pm
I just learned that parallel action pliers are a thing and bought some because they look like they'll come in useful.

Wishing this had happened before I upgraded the potentiometers on my bench power supply (which involved a great deal of failing to hold M3 nuts and pinching my skin with with long-nose pliers while I did up the screw from the other side of the panel), but there you go...
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on June 10, 2019, 12:37:30 pm
I just learned that parallel action pliers are a thing and bought some because they look like they'll come in useful.

Wishing this had happened before I upgraded the potentiometers on my bench power supply (which involved a great deal of failing to hold M3 nuts and pinching my skin with with long-nose pliers while I did up the screw from the other side of the panel), but there you go...
Most of them look quite cheap and nasty, but I think you'd be struggling produce something giving you parallel action from a conventional forged tool.

As far as parallel jaws go, this delightful tool  is a V.E.G. (Very expensive godsend)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48036243031_e1789fb4f0_o.png)
I bought from Tourettes Tools in Fulham around 20 years ago.
Smooth jaws (so no marky), parallel action, can be locked off a la Mole Grips.
A delight to use - but I think they were something like 45 squid  :o

Great for universal spannering, with little risk of trashing the fastener.

They're currently my tool-of-choice for crimping cable end crimps.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on June 10, 2019, 12:50:17 pm
They seem to mostly be a jewellery thing, which makes sense.  It's small stuff where they're likely to be more useful anyway.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on June 10, 2019, 01:08:23 pm
A real one or a hankering for one?

With a decent skill saw along with sufficient clamps to create a guide it's hard to justify the cost or storage space. If I was doing it as a day job, it'd be a slam dunk.

Used to do the portable circular saw/clamp/lath bit before I got a decent table saw. Nowadays I just have a small table saw with a crappy fence. Track saw looks more precise.

Before buying a track saw its worth having a look at the tracks available.

There are two issues.  Some tracks are usable by other brands of saw. Festool, Makita and I believe Evolution can run on each others tracks.
So with care you can buy cheaper tracks for your saw.

The cheapest saws Aldi/Lidl, Screwfix etc often come with very short tracks. So if your plan is to rip full size sheets you may need to join four sections of track.



Yeah. I've been following Peter Millard's track-saw videos on YT where he compares various el cheapos with Festool. I don't reckon I'd ever need more than 2x70cm tracks. Aldi/Lidl saws are apparently rebadged Sheppach kit & Scheppach tracks are available separately, which is the other consideration with el cheapos.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on June 11, 2019, 02:32:07 am
Most of them look quite cheap and nasty, but I think you'd be struggling produce something giving you parallel action from a conventional forged tool.

Knipex pliers wrenches come in a variety of sizes and are really high quality. Not cheap though.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/KNIPEX-pliers-wrench-chrome-plated-plastic-coated/dp/B000X4KP1C
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on June 11, 2019, 08:00:55 am
Yup. I have a pair of Knipex C-clip spreaders and they're very nicely made. When El Prez did our water heater last month he had a complete Knipex electrician's tool bag (https://www.knipex.com/index.php?id=1216&L=1&page=group_detail&parentID=1373&groupID=2526) - his retirement present.

Facom are pretty good too.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on June 11, 2019, 08:51:16 am
Most of them look quite cheap and nasty, but I think you'd be struggling produce something giving you parallel action from a conventional forged tool.

Knipex pliers wrenches come in a variety of sizes and are really high quality. Not cheap though.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/KNIPEX-pliers-wrench-chrome-plated-plastic-coated/dp/B000X4KP1C

They're 'ver nice.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on June 11, 2019, 01:37:50 pm
I have nothing bad to say about their wire cutters, particularly the Super Knips series.

I should probably get some of their wire strippers, but my preferred technique is to use really cheap ones with the locknut removed, so I can strip different diameters by feel.  Doing it properly would seem like faff.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on June 11, 2019, 02:02:11 pm
I note with some disappointment that Lindstrom no longer produce their pliers / cutters with a box joint - A thing of beauty in itself.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on June 11, 2019, 02:51:39 pm
I have nothing bad to say about their wire cutters, particularly the Super Knips series.

I should probably get some of their wire strippers, but my preferred technique is to use really cheap ones with the locknut removed, so I can strip different diameters by feel.  Doing it properly would seem like faff.

I have one of these things:

(https://assets-alpha.megadepot.com/product/image.640x640/martindale/MAWS001.jpg)

Nice enough to use and not much to get wrong unless you put the wire in the wrong notch.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: bludger on June 11, 2019, 02:53:49 pm
(https://d1vfu4m1fkicia.cloudfront.net/imgs/products/px/950x600_constWH/TOJOOMT_P1.jpg?v=c)

I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it.

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TOJOOMT/jobsworth-outdoor-multi-tool
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on June 11, 2019, 02:57:36 pm
(https://d1vfu4m1fkicia.cloudfront.net/imgs/products/px/950x600_constWH/TOJOOMT_P1.jpg?v=c)

I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it.

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TOJOOMT/jobsworth-outdoor-multi-tool
You're right. You don't need it.
The more you make use of the hammer and the axe, the less your wire cutters will cut wire.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on June 18, 2019, 08:14:35 am
I'm currently angling for a nail gun on the strength of needing to panel the hall where the dogs rub against it.  Strategy is (a) get nail gun (b) proclaim current air compressor inadequate (c) get new compressor (d) inflate dogs.

Part (a) duly accomplished: Rapid PB131 and a 7-metre air line.  Impressed: it bangs a 5 cm nail through 4.4 cm of pine as if it were hollow.  Compressor restarts after only 15 shots, though - noisy. Plan (b) duly initiated.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Mr Larrington on June 18, 2019, 01:08:01 pm
Be sure to post pictures if things progress as far as (d).
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on June 18, 2019, 01:32:20 pm
Cervantes would give us to believe that it is easier than writing a book...
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on June 18, 2019, 01:49:05 pm
Had a good score at a car boot sale on Sunday. Stanley Yankee spiral screwdriver in really nice condition. These are great tools but the choice of bits is limited and they are never with the screwdriver.
You can buy an adaptor that lets them use modern hex bits but is either cheap Chinesium or expensive and German.  This one came complete with a German adaptor and all the whole thing was only £4 !

Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on June 18, 2019, 02:58:58 pm
Those used to be the bee's knees in the Sixties.  I still have mine, and I inherited the Inlaw Paw's, which is enormous.  I never much liked them because you had to press like buggery and if you slipped off the screw the bit cut into the workpiece with your thrust and that of the spring combined.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Little Jim on June 18, 2019, 03:17:35 pm
I still find mine really useful as a big FO screwdriver to shift recalcitrant screws.  You really can get loads of torque with one and there are not many screws that refuse to budge.  Just don't do it with the spiral extended though.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: ElyDave on June 18, 2019, 03:39:12 pm
(https://d1vfu4m1fkicia.cloudfront.net/imgs/products/px/950x600_constWH/TOJOOMT_P1.jpg?v=c)

I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it. I don't need it.

https://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/TOJOOMT/jobsworth-outdoor-multi-tool
You're right. You don't.
The more you make use of the hammer and the axe, the less your wire cutters will cut wire.

That axe is good enough for cheese and that's about all, I wouldn't worry
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on June 18, 2019, 03:44:55 pm
It does look like the type of gadget that does lots of things not quite well enough. In fact it screams to be made in a camo version.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on June 19, 2019, 10:05:23 am
<snip>

That axe is good enough for cheese and that's about all, I wouldn't worry

I suspect that cheese is what the pivot for the pliers/cutters is fashioned from.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on June 19, 2019, 11:01:40 am
I still find mine really useful as a big FO screwdriver to shift recalcitrant screws.  You really can get loads of torque with one and there are not many screws that refuse to budge.  Just don't do it with the spiral extended though.

Yep - I've got the full-size Yankee and smaller one about 10" long - both still in frequent use although I have some newish battery tools too.  The advent of Pozidriv screws has made a big difference to screwing with the Yankee spiral ... and the smaller one has a couple of bits like an old-style Rawlplug tool (the fluted ones that had a holder that you hit with a hammer) that you can drill into plasterboard/soft material.

Latest purchases are a cheapie table saw from Aldi and a Bosch cordless glue-pen/gun .... and a cordless sabre-saw.

.... and one of these (https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41Q60ilfOIL.jpg) is a recent acquisition - pure indulgence but creates a neater crimp than just pliers.   [I believe that you can get a similar tool that stamps initials into the cable end crimp!!]

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Mr Larrington on June 19, 2019, 11:27:37 am
Lt. Col. Larrington (retd.) has a spiral screwkidiser wrought from finest Chinesium which is still functional after 45 of your Earth years.  I hope to inherit it, along with his Rolex.  But the grandfather clock can go for firewood.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on June 19, 2019, 02:48:31 pm
Latest purchases are a cheapie table saw from Aldi and a Bosch cordless glue-pen/gun .... and a cordless sabre-saw.

Rob

MrsT is fond of intoning that cheap stuff is more expensive in the long run, but my credo is that if you buy cheaper stuff you can get more - and you're not so worried about breaking it, come to that.  In any case it's 90% Chinesium these days.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on June 19, 2019, 04:30:34 pm
Latest purchases are a cheapie table saw from Aldi and a Bosch cordless glue-pen/gun .... and a cordless sabre-saw.

Rob

MrsT is fond of intoning that cheap stuff is more expensive in the long run, but my credo is that if you buy cheaper stuff you can get more - and you're not so worried about breaking it, come to that.  In any case it's 90% Chinesium these days.

Although it's Aldi the machine is a rebadged version of the same saw sold by Screwfix at twice the price.   Agree in principle on "cheap is expensive" but my usage is pretty minimal and not mission critical for woodworking stuff ... cycle tools are another matter, virtually all Park Tool in my workshop.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on June 19, 2019, 04:34:42 pm
My take on that is that it's fine to buy cheap if you're not sure it's going to get a lot of use, but to always replace a broken / worn out tool with a good quality one.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on June 20, 2019, 08:15:22 am
When I recently bought  drill, I deliberately bought the cheapest I could find; £15 from Argos. The only reason I bought it was that I didn't want to have to wait till Thursday evenings when I can use one at Bike Kitchen or borrow friends', with the inevitable carting of stuff to be drilled or drill. I figure if it lasts ten drillings that'll be a several of years for me and if I do find I end up using it regularly, I can buy something from Black & Decker or even Bosch.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: JennyB on June 20, 2019, 09:13:09 am
When I recently bought  drill, I deliberately bought the cheapest I could find; £15 from Argos. The only reason I bought it was that I didn't want to have to wait till Thursday evenings when I can use one at Bike Kitchen or borrow friends', with the inevitable carting of stuff to be drilled or drill. I figure if it lasts ten drillings that'll be a several of years for me and if I do find I end up using it regularly, I can buy something from Black & Decker or even Bosch.


I read somewhere that the average home DIY drill is used (presumably meaning switched on and under load) for a total of only ten hours.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on June 20, 2019, 11:00:40 am
probably ten minutes, not ten hours!
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on June 20, 2019, 12:19:07 pm
About one set of shelves worth, surely?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on June 20, 2019, 01:12:11 pm
Latest purchases are a cheapie table saw from Aldi and a Bosch cordless glue-pen/gun .... and a cordless sabre-saw.

Rob

MrsT is fond of intoning that cheap stuff is more expensive in the long run, but my credo is that if you buy cheaper stuff you can get more - and you're not so worried about breaking it, come to that.  In any case it's 90% Chinesium these days.

Although it's Aldi the machine is a rebadged version of the same saw sold by Screwfix at twice the price.   Agree in principle on "cheap is expensive" but my usage is pretty minimal and not mission critical for woodworking stuff ... cycle tools are another matter, virtually all Park Tool in my workshop.

Rob

Trouble is that given the ebb'n'flood manner in which Aldi/Lidl replenish stock you're only likely to see them once or twice a year. The quality, probably at Screwfix too, is likely to be less than consistent.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on June 24, 2019, 09:20:28 am
Finally got to try the Makita Red belt sander on Saturday. Its a beast! Sanded down the garden table top in about 15 minutes, highly recommended as long as you don't need variable speed. Did the legs and the grooves between the slats with a Lidl sending attachment for an angle grinder. That worked well also but the quality of the hook and loop disk for attaching the pads to wasnt up to much. Plastic and melted when used continuously, mind you at £3.00 for the disk and six sanding disks I cant complain, did the job. 3/4 of a tin of Danish Oil and the table doesn't look 20 years old any-more.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on July 11, 2019, 08:12:07 pm
A pillar drill for my home workshop - from Screwfix's "finest" range - cheap-ish and cheerful but does what I want it to - downside is finding bench-space for it.   Also ordered a couple of sets of blades for my Ryobi jig-saw - in particular the wide-blade ones to cut sheet material more easily.

AND  a big treat at the shop today was to purchase a Shimano press-fit bottom bracket removal tool (we already had a press to put them in) - very satisfying using the BIG Park Tool hammer with it :thumbsup:

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on July 12, 2019, 09:09:13 am
That the big Titan?  Quite pleased with mine. Grumbles: table wobbles a bit from side to side while cranking so you have to line up the work afterwards. A bit of a pain if you have work clamped down and have to drill a hole of varying diameters, e.g. to seat a T-nut in a 10mm hole.  Also, the laser is nice but would be nicer if the beams intersected at a less acute angle.

OTOH watching the beast chew 34mm holes as if the workpiece were blancmange is rather impressive. With this fleamarket article at that:

(https://pbase.com/image/169484887.jpg)

That's not the workpiece, BTW, it's sacrificial scrap.

I want to get a proper adjustable fly cutter but all the translations into French I can find refer to insects and sadism*.

Meanwhile, I toddled into the local Leroy Merlin (motto: We have everything you don't need) with MrsT yesterday to get a set of router bits, so of course had a gander at battery-operated circular saws and a serious look at mitre saws, since mine dates from the era when Real Men® didn't extract dust, and anyway the angle stops are inaccurate and there's no way to adjust them.  Lingered long over a nice Redstone then of course came out with just a set of router bits.

I'm going to have to actually produce something one of these days.

*ETA: Hah!  I just did a search on "fly cutter" instead of "... in French" and got trépan.  Shades of Maturin's brain surgery.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on July 12, 2019, 10:18:55 am
That the big Titan?  Quite pleased with mine. Grumbles: table wobbles a bit from side to side while cranking so you have to line up the work afterwards. A bit of a pain if you have work clamped down and have to drill a hole of varying diameters, e.g. to seat a T-nut in a 10mm hole.  Also, the laser is nice but would be nicer if the beams intersected at a less acute angle.

OTOH watching the beast chew 34mm holes as if the workpiece were blancmange is rather impressive. With this fleamarket article at that:

(https://pbase.com/image/169484887.jpg)

That's not the workpiece, BTW, it's sacrificial scrap.
 >> SNIP

Meanwhile, I toddled into the local Leroy Merlin (motto: We have everything you don't need) with MrsT yesterday to get a set of router bits, so of course had a gander at battery-operated circular saws and a serious look at mitre saws, since mine dates from the era when Real Men® didn't extract dust, and anyway the angle stops are inaccurate and there's no way to adjust them.  Lingered long over a nice Redstone then of course came out with just a set of router bits.

I'm going to have to actually produce something one of these days.

*ETA: Hah!  I just did a search on "fly cutter" instead of "... in French" and got trépan.  Shades of Maturin's brain surgery.

Ah - Leroy Merlin .... paradise in France .... makes UK outfits look amateur.  It's the go-to every time I'm in France ..... and it's owned by the same people as Decathlon (and Auchan) which if you ignore most of the cycle stuff has some great clothing and shoes.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on July 12, 2019, 10:51:55 am
Oh, they're definitely not amateur.  They've whittled their wood stock (sorry) down to fast-moving items only, plus 47 kinds of composite.  Even their battens are made up of 30cm chunks (of scrap, most likely) glued end to end - just the thing for a handyman who'll be painting it anyway and doesn't care.

Our local LM took over from a German chain called Obi, who in turn took over from a locally-owned business called Bricker. Back when Bricker had it they had a great stock of wood that you could pick through: I panelled a chunk of our lounge & built a 7-meter bookcase just with wood from their stock, ditto half-a-dozen other bits of furniture. This is a timber-growing region, after all, and we have everything from oak to epicea, but if you want a planed oak board from LM you'll order two weeks ahead and take what you get: no checking for shakes or warp, or picking out the best figure.

When I go there now I come out wishing there was somewhere adequate to shop.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on July 12, 2019, 09:26:17 pm
.... I'm thinking about buying an £80 Aldi Bandsaw . . .

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on July 13, 2019, 07:52:38 am
It'll probably be better than the Metabo I bought two years back.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: hairyhippy on July 22, 2019, 10:07:30 pm
Time to own up. In a moment of madness last year I bought the Festool track saw. It has transformed my life. I love it. So many projects. So much fun. Can't recommend track saws highly enough.

In conjunction with a Paulk style workbench (mine is smaller to fit in  single garage) that I built I am now a very happy wannabe chippy.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on July 23, 2019, 10:13:05 am
Succumbed to an Aldi bench combination belt/disc sander machine ..... running out of bench space!

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on July 23, 2019, 03:43:49 pm
Dusty efforts.  My Scheppach one has an excuse for a dust extraction port that I hooked up religiously to the vacuum when I first had it, but the dust went everywhere notwithstanding.  Nowadays I don't bother.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on November 04, 2019, 09:03:27 pm
Yankee screwdrivers - why the hell did these fall out of fashion !

I have picked up a couple of small ones at carboots over the last couple of years but never really used one in anger. This summer I picked up a big one with a hex but adaptor for a couple of quid.
I cleaned and lubed it and left it on the workbench.

I was putting up a hammer rack (that's another story I have far too many hammers) and the electric screwdriver had a flat battery so I tried the big Yankee, oh wow what a revelation !
So much torque and controllable torque at that, you can feel it and the screw never cams out. Much much better than an electric driver plus its long and narrow so gets into places that you can't get an electric screwdriver. Since then I have used it on a couple of other projects and now its my go to tool for screwing thing into rawlpugs in walls or into wood.

I would still use an electric screwdriver for non torque applications like computer cases where there are loads of machine screws that need removing or screwing in, much faster but for screwing stuff in against resistance Yankee screwdrivers are the dog danglees..
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on November 04, 2019, 09:41:18 pm
Is that like a Birmingham screwdriver? (Having googled, I know what it is and have even used one, but had never heard the name.)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on November 04, 2019, 10:03:55 pm
Yankee screwdrivers - why the hell did these fall out of fashion !

I have picked up a couple of small ones at carboots over the last couple of years but never really used one in anger. This summer I picked up a big one with a hex but adaptor for a couple of quid.
I cleaned and lubed it and left it on the workbench.

I was putting up a hammer rack (that's another story I have far too many hammers) and the electric screwdriver had a flat battery so I tried the big Yankee, oh wow what a revelation !
So much torque and controllable torque at that, you can feel it and the screw never cams out. Much much better than an electric driver plus its long and narrow so gets into places that you can't get an electric screwdriver. Since then I have used it on a couple of other projects and now its my go to tool for screwing thing into rawlpugs in walls or into wood.

I would still use an electric screwdriver for non torque applications like computer cases where there are loads of machine screws that need removing or screwing in, much faster but for screwing stuff in against resistance Yankee screwdrivers are the dog danglees..

I assume you are talking of the Yankee pump driver

You might think so, but in my dim, distant and speckled past I used to be paid to screw things up (as opposed to it just being a by-product of my employment). In this case, it was curtain fitting (includes rails and blinds) and I can tell you that the Yankee Pump, whilst being a thing of wonder and beauty is not suited for repetitive fixing requiring high torque. It is also precarious using to face fix on the top of a ladder, somewhat better at top fix for obvious reasons. Instead the tool of choice at the time was the Yankee red handled stanley ratchet driver, which I still have (a quick eBay turns up these (https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-Ratchett-Screwdrivers-2-Stanley-Yankee-And-2-Guys/274080539418))

As far as I know the pump action were preferred by cabinet makers/shopfitters.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: chrisbainbridge on November 04, 2019, 10:05:45 pm
They are brilliant.  My FiL gave me my one as a Christmas present 38 years ago and I still have it and use it regularly

Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: chrisbainbridge on November 04, 2019, 10:07:05 pm
Oh, I assumed that this meant a Stanley ratchet screwdriver, which is what I have.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on November 04, 2019, 10:30:35 pm
They are both Yankee ratchet drivers, one is a pump action which is what pcolbeck was describing. As I recall the pump could be locked in and function as a "normal ratchet" but (a) the ratchet wasn't as good (b) if it came loose (which it did more often as it wore) it would make REELY NARSTY indiscriminate mess of anything, surfaces, objects, flesh.

Possibly where the expression "you'll have someone's eye out with that" originated.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on November 05, 2019, 07:53:33 am
When my father died I raided his tool collection for the tools that I wanted.  He had a couple of Yankee screwdrivers.  I have his spanners (the Whitworth ones are particularly useful for that "what is that size" moment when spannering on my classic Triumph motorcycles) and some small socket sets, a portable vice and some lovely Stanley planes.  The Yankees I passed on.  IIRC they were particularly adept at mangling any fine surface when the bloody things slipped.

I will confess to being a Tool Junkie, but even I have to draw the line somewhere.

Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on November 05, 2019, 08:16:07 am
The Yankees I passed on.  IIRC they were particularly adept at mangling any fine surface when the bloody things slipped.

I will confess to being a Tool Junkie, but even I have to draw the line somewhere.

This.  I have a couple of the things but I stopped using them years decades ago.  Just for fun (fun???) I cleaned & lubed one a few months back, tried it, cried "bloody horrible" and put it back on the rack.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Gattopardo on November 05, 2019, 05:39:02 pm
Machine Mart is now selling JIS screwdrivers https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/6-piece-jis-screwdriver-set/ there are also the more expensive laser ones too.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Wombat on November 05, 2019, 07:15:24 pm
Machine Mart is now selling JIS screwdrivers https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/6-piece-jis-screwdriver-set/ there are also the more expensive laser ones too.

Ooh, thank you for telling me that!  Why are JIS drivers so hard to get, but essential for all owners of aged Japanese motorcycles, etc.?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: TheLurker on November 05, 2019, 08:46:19 pm
Yankee (pump action) screwdrivers?  No thank you very much.  Dreadful bloody things.  I've got two festering somewhere in the garage and they can rust in pieces.

Tool pron : http://www.squirestools.com/tools-and-materials.htm

Wonderful.  No pissing about with flash, fancy CSS, JavaScript or any of that crap.  Here, have a PDF copy of the relevant section of our catalogue for you to browse at your leisure and even print off so that you may leave it lying around suitably annotated with strong hints as to what would constitute acceptable gifts.  I know what I'm going to be asking Father Christmas' for this year.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on November 07, 2019, 05:43:52 pm
I had a  a Yankee pump-action screwdriver.
I'm not sure what happened to it - ie: it's lost.
I cannot say that I am saddened by this.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on November 08, 2019, 08:50:46 am
I'm just remembering the moment when the wife of a visiting chum came into my workshop, looked at my array of chisels and exclaimed "gosh, what a lot of screwdrivers!"
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on November 08, 2019, 12:37:00 pm
I'm just remembering the moment when the wife of a visiting chum came into my workshop, looked at my array of chisels and exclaimed "gosh, what a lot of screwdrivers!"

Better than the other way round  :hand:
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on November 08, 2019, 01:38:30 pm
Oh, I dunno - using a screwdriver as a chisel won't get you far but driving screws with a chisel will bugger the edge. Regrinding is a bore unless you've got a Tormek or similar. I haven't.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Mr Larrington on November 08, 2019, 05:15:01 pm
Opening paint tins with a chisel is certainly grounds for divorce.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: spesh on November 08, 2019, 05:17:08 pm
Opening paint tins with a chisel is certainly grounds for divorce being killed utterly to DETH and buried under a suspiciously new patio.

Gratis.   ;)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on November 08, 2019, 05:52:18 pm
What he said ^
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: spesh on November 08, 2019, 05:55:05 pm
Further to the above, the same should also apply for cow-okers who "borrow" Lindstrom cutters in order to attend to their manicure.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on November 08, 2019, 08:43:21 pm
Seeing the mention of "spiral ratchet" screwdrivers - as in Yankee or Stanley - they are simply brilliant - I have 2 .... small one from about 1969 and the big one I bought when I did a massive house renovation in about 1983.  Looking after them, oiling the spiral etc and they go on for ever.

I have to confess that the old slotted head screws weren't ideal for it but the advent of Pozidriv (and whatever they call cross-head screws nowadays) and the screwdrivers come into their own (although I do have a couple of battery drill/drivers)

..... I'm still hankering after a bandsaw and am considering a seasonal request letter for late December.

Rob

PS: Not exactly tools but I'm acquring some PVC interlocking heavy duty "checkerplate" tiles for my newly expanded workshop.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on November 09, 2019, 09:50:08 am
Opening paint tins with a chisel is certainly grounds for divorce.

Sorting through the Inlaw Paw's stuff after he died I discovered a very nice Marples chisel encrusted with paint.  It gets quite a lot of use these days.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on November 09, 2019, 10:13:31 am
..... I'm still hankering after a bandsaw and am considering a seasonal request letter for late December.

Sore point with me, that.   I only needed a small one, so I bought an 8"-throat Metabo BAS 261 in 2017 and a worse POS for the money I've yet to see - bad design and sloppy assembly.  I had to invalidate the guarantee half a dozen different ways to make it usable.  I get the impression that if you're going to pay less than 800€-1200€ you might as well go to Aldi.  Unfortunately, most low-end machines use the same style of upper blade guide arm, which is specially designed to stop you seeing the blade with both eyes at once. Oh, and if you use the built-in LED illumination on the Metabo it casts a deep shadow right where you don't need it.

Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: hubner on November 09, 2019, 10:44:47 am
Crappy blunt and abused chisels made from soft steel (or tempered to be soft) make excellent paint tin openers!
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on November 09, 2019, 01:50:40 pm
I don't believe in opening paint tins.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: orienteer on November 09, 2019, 02:10:05 pm
I still have, and often use, a wooden-handled ratchet screwdriver I bought in Woolworths over 40 years ago.

I also have a T-handle ratchet screwdriver with 6 interchangeable bits, made in China, bought in a Japanese 100-yen (=70p) shop about 15 years ago. I keep this in the house rather than the garage for minor domestic maintenance jobs, along with an Aldi cordless driver/drill combo bought about 2 years ago for £29.99.

Oh, another old tool is a double-sided Japanese saw (fine and coarse toothed) bought in a Daimaru department store 45 years ago. These saws cut on the pull rather than push stroke, so the blade is very slim to achieve fine cuts.

Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: CarlF on November 09, 2019, 06:08:34 pm
I have a purpose made paint tin opening tool.

Do I win the tool junkie thread?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on November 10, 2019, 10:54:47 am
Now this man really is a tool junkie..........

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guSG03tB2vQ
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on November 11, 2019, 09:39:16 am
Was in Barnetts (A brilliant and huge traditional DIY / lighting and cookware shop in York) on Friday and they had a nice Bahco box of screwdriver bits on special offer. Full set of PZ, PH slotted and Torx. So I bought it. I already have Wera and Weha sets of the more common ones so this will fill in the weird used only once in blue moon sizes. Now I can throw away the quality street tin of rubbish bits I have collected over the years.
I also bought a set of Wiha SoftFinish screwdrivers for normal clean jobs to go with the Were Chiseldrivers I already have for more heavy duty jobs in the garage (these are brilliant by the way they have striking caps and hex shoulders shanks if you need some serious leverage)
This is part of the plane to replace the loads of cheap tools I have acquired over the years with a smaller number of better quality ones.
Next weekend I will be going through my toolboxes and dumping all the crap screwdrivers.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Torslanda on December 07, 2019, 10:11:55 pm
By the by I need some new pliers for shop use. I have some Park long nose but after 7 years of constant daily use they're getting a bit tired.

Looking for a set, long nose, combi, side cutters.

Bahco? Knippex? Or something else...?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Zipperhead on December 08, 2019, 01:43:47 am
Bahco? Knippex? Or something else...?

*cough* (https://www.lindstromtools.com/pdf.php)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jaded on December 08, 2019, 09:24:29 am
Is that like a Birmingham screwdriver? (Having googled, I know what it is and have even used one, but had never heard the name.)

This is a Birmingham screwdriver
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: bobb on December 08, 2019, 10:07:17 am
..... I'm still hankering after a bandsaw and am considering a seasonal request letter for late December.

Sore point with me, that.   I only needed a small one, so I bought an 8"-throat Metabo BAS 261 in 2017 and a worse POS for the money I've yet to see - bad design and sloppy assembly.  I had to invalidate the guarantee half a dozen different ways to make it usable.  I get the impression that if you're going to pay less than 800€-1200€ you might as well go to Aldi.  Unfortunately, most low-end machines use the same style of upper blade guide arm, which is specially designed to stop you seeing the blade with both eyes at once. Oh, and if you use the built-in LED illumination on the Metabo it casts a deep shadow right where you don't need it.


I was seriously considering the 10" one Aldi have been offering recently (https://www.aldi.co.uk/ferrex-10-inch-bandsaw/p/019596291909000) for £150. Although there are a lot of good reviews around, there were just too many "had to send it back twice" or "had to modify it" reviews to make me pull the trigger - even at that low price.

It seems at the lower price points - whatever the brand (or indeed whatever it's branded as) you get a lot of people raving about them but at least 25% of reviews are terrible....
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on December 08, 2019, 11:10:14 am
..... I'm still hankering after a bandsaw and am considering a seasonal request letter for late December.

Sore point with me, that.   I only needed a small one, so I bought an 8"-throat Metabo BAS 261 in 2017 and a worse POS for the money I've yet to see - bad design and sloppy assembly.  I had to invalidate the guarantee half a dozen different ways to make it usable.  I get the impression that if you're going to pay less than 800€-1200€ you might as well go to Aldi.  Unfortunately, most low-end machines use the same style of upper blade guide arm, which is specially designed to stop you seeing the blade with both eyes at once. Oh, and if you use the built-in LED illumination on the Metabo it casts a deep shadow right where you don't need it.


I was seriously considering the 10" one Aldi have been offering recently (https://www.aldi.co.uk/ferrex-10-inch-bandsaw/p/019596291909000) for £150. Although there are a lot of good reviews around, there were just too many "had to send it back twice" or "had to modify it" reviews to make me pull the trigger - even at that low price.

It seems at the lower price points - whatever the brand (or indeed whatever it's branded as) you get a lot of people raving about them but at least 25% of reviews are terrible....
You, of all people, should know that cheap tools are generally teh meh. ;)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on December 08, 2019, 11:41:12 am
..... I'm still hankering after a bandsaw and am considering a seasonal request letter for late December.

Sore point with me, that.   I only needed a small one, so I bought an 8"-throat Metabo BAS 261 in 2017 and a worse POS for the money I've yet to see - bad design and sloppy assembly.  I had to invalidate the guarantee half a dozen different ways to make it usable.  I get the impression that if you're going to pay less than 800€-1200€ you might as well go to Aldi.  Unfortunately, most low-end machines use the same style of upper blade guide arm, which is specially designed to stop you seeing the blade with both eyes at once. Oh, and if you use the built-in LED illumination on the Metabo it casts a deep shadow right where you don't need it.


I was seriously considering the 10" one Aldi have been offering recently (https://www.aldi.co.uk/ferrex-10-inch-bandsaw/p/019596291909000) for £150. Although there are a lot of good reviews around, there were just too many "had to send it back twice" or "had to modify it" reviews to make me pull the trigger - even at that low price.

It seems at the lower price points - whatever the brand (or indeed whatever it's branded as) you get a lot of people raving about them but at least 25% of reviews are terrible....

IMHO, you are better off hunting for a better quality used machine on Fleabay or wherever, then doing whatever needs to be done to get it back to near-perfect condition.  That way, and I've done this, you end up with a better quality machine, that you know inside out, and you may well have still paid less overall than on some cheapo bit of re-badged new Chinese tat.  That's not to say that the Chinese cannot make good quality tools, they certainly can, but they make tools to a price point set by the UK importers, and that price point is too low to buy anything even half decent.

And breathe...........
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on December 08, 2019, 12:59:16 pm
Is that like a Birmingham screwdriver? (Having googled, I know what it is and have even used one, but had never heard the name.)

This is a Birmingham screwdriver
(click to show/hide)

Made in Digbeth[1]. (https://twitter.com/fokawolf/status/1201925456062226434)


[1] "It's like Stokes Croft, but industrial"
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 09, 2019, 11:28:20 am
A Stokes Croft screwdriver is probably a can of nitrous!
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on December 09, 2019, 09:12:06 pm
Is that like a Birmingham screwdriver? (Having googled, I know what it is and have even used one, but had never heard the name.)

This is a Birmingham screwdriver
(click to show/hide)

Made in Digbeth[1]. (https://twitter.com/fokawolf/status/1201925456062226434)


[1] "It's like Stokes Croft, but industrial"

Huh, the spoiler pic is just the lightweight model

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: spesh on January 02, 2020, 05:04:43 pm
Woodworking toolbox pr0n: https://mymodernmet.com/studley-tool-chest/ :demon:
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: perpetual dan on January 03, 2020, 07:58:07 pm
I was in Japan House ealier. Amongst other things that looked lovely but were too spendy for me were these (my finger included for scale).
(https://betweenbeyond.files.wordpress.com/2020/01/img_20200103_195047.jpg)

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Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 03, 2020, 08:18:36 pm
Further to the above, the same should also apply for cow-okers who "borrow" Lindstrom cutters in order to attend to their manicure.

In the same vein, siblings who want to borrow your nice wee cuticle nippers to cut their inch thick adamantine toenails.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on January 03, 2020, 08:42:17 pm
I acquired one of these today   

https://www.screwfix.com/p/marxman-green-chalk-non-permanent-marker/1977K?tc=YT7&ds_kid=92700022888057570&ds_rl=1241687&ds_rl=1245250&ds_rl=1244066&ds_rl=1249796&ds_rl=1245250&ds_rl=1249484&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyvHa3KTo5gIViLPtCh0Vdgp0EAQYAiABEgJ9B_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds   

- really clever and just a fiver.   

I sent Mrs robgul to collect it and she picked up a Dymo labelmaker in Aldi's Special Buys on the way home - all sorts of stuff now bears labels!

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on January 03, 2020, 08:47:59 pm
I sent Mrs robgul to collect it and she picked up a Dymo labelmaker in Aldi's Special Buys on the way home - all sorts of stuff now bears labels!

I'm a big fan of the Dymo embossed label.  It's like living in an episode of Look Around You, and gives homebrew electronics an authentic Back To The Future aesthetic.  But mine has the fatal flaw of lacking a '-' character.  I think they left it off to make room for umlauts or something.

This is inconvenient when you're, to pick a frustrating example, labelling the voltage outputs on a power supply.  But more importantly, it means you can't label things with "-o-matic" suffixes.  Useless!

(I recently thought I'd broken it, but it was just a bit of off-brand label that had got stuck in the mechanism, easily rectified with tweezers.  Which is a shame in that I don't have an excuse to replace it with a proper label printer, but saves me from researching label printers, which are printers and therefore a work of Stan.)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on January 04, 2020, 10:07:32 am
The original daisy-wheel printer.  I've got a 1980s one somewhere, filched from my final employers when they were going bust.  The adhesive was always a bit hit & miss.  Nothing inspires confidence like labelling half a dozen drawers and finding the labels on the floor next morning.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on January 04, 2020, 10:51:46 am
I sent Mrs robgul to collect it and she picked up a Dymo labelmaker in Aldi's Special Buys on the way home - all sorts of stuff now bears labels!

I'm a big fan of the Dymo embossed label.  It's like living in an episode of Look Around You, and gives homebrew electronics an authentic Back To The Future aesthetic.  But mine has the fatal flaw of lacking a '-' character.  I think they left it off to make room for umlauts or something.

This is inconvenient when you're, to pick a frustrating example, labelling the voltage outputs on a power supply.  But more importantly, it means you can't label things with "-o-matic" suffixes.  Useless!

(I recently thought I'd broken it, but it was just a bit of off-brand label that had got stuck in the mechanism, easily rectified with tweezers.  Which is a shame in that I don't have an excuse to replace it with a proper label printer, but saves me from researching label printers, which are printers and therefore a work of Stan.)

I had an embosing one years ago - this new one is the Letratag that prints (thermal) onto either a paper or plastic strip that's self-adhesive with a kiss-cut on the back to peel easily - and it has language options for special characters as well as a whole host of little emojis and icons.  Such fun

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on January 17, 2020, 02:36:47 pm
Received a nice little Stanley vice from Amazon (https://www.amazon.co.uk/STANLEY-MAXSTEEL-Multi-Angle-Vice/dp/B001HBS0I0/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=stanley+vice&qid=1579271642&sr=8-1) this morning: clamps onto a tabletop and swivels on a ball & socket. Only problem: nary a trace of grease anywhere, and patches of rust on the ball making it hard to budge.  OK, it should take all of ten minutes to put right, but still... tut.

Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on January 17, 2020, 08:16:05 pm
Just bought a brad gun a.k.a. nail/staple gun - fires 2" nails  :thumbsup:   - it's a battery/cordless model so very portable (stuff at the allotment to make from old pallets)  - been on a bit of a beano with tools recently as I also bought a biscuit jointer last week.

AND related to tools I'm off on 3 days of woodworking course next week to brush up some of my power tool skills.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on January 18, 2020, 09:27:46 am
AND related to tools I'm off on 3 days of woodworking course next week to brush up some of my power tool skills.

Fun!  When I was looking for something in the Inlaw Paw's old stuff a few weeks back I found a playing-card box I made for the Inlaw Maw around 1970.  I did most of it with a B&D drill with a circular saw attachment, including cutting rebates into the edge of ¼" stock.  I wouldn't think of attempting that now.  I didn't even have a Workmate then so I had to work on the floor.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on January 18, 2020, 10:04:08 am
AND related to tools I'm off on 3 days of woodworking course next week to brush up some of my power tool skills.

Fun!  When I was looking for something in the Inlaw Paw's old stuff a few weeks back I found a playing-card box I made for the Inlaw Maw around 1970.  I did most of it with a B&D drill with a circular saw attachment, including cutting rebates into the edge of ¼" stock.  I wouldn't think of attempting that now.  I didn't even have a Workmate then so I had to work on the floor.

Ah - the old B&D "attachments" that turned the basic drill into other tools - IIRC I had a circular saw and a hedge trimmer.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 18, 2020, 10:56:22 am
I sent Mrs robgul to collect it and she picked up a Dymo labelmaker in Aldi's Special Buys on the way home - all sorts of stuff now bears labels!

I'm a big fan of the Dymo embossed label.  It's like living in an episode of Look Around You, and gives homebrew electronics an authentic Back To The Future aesthetic.  But mine has the fatal flaw of lacking a '-' character.  I think they left it off to make room for umlauts or something.

This is inconvenient when you're, to pick a frustrating example, labelling the voltage outputs on a power supply.  But more importantly, it means you can't label things with "-o-matic" suffixes.  Useless!

(I recently thought I'd broken it, but it was just a bit of off-brand label that had got stuck in the mechanism, easily rectified with tweezers.  Which is a shame in that I don't have an excuse to replace it with a proper label printer, but saves me from researching label printers, which are printers and therefore a work of Stan.)

I had an embosing one years ago - this new one is the Letratag that prints (thermal) onto either a paper or plastic strip that's self-adhesive with a kiss-cut on the back to peel easily - and it has language options for special characters as well as a whole host of little emojis and icons.  Such fun

Rob
That would get me labelling everything just for the experience, call it an Adam complex, giving names to all the creatures, plants, rocks and stuff.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on January 18, 2020, 01:16:46 pm
I sent Mrs robgul to collect it and she picked up a Dymo labelmaker in Aldi's Special Buys on the way home - all sorts of stuff now bears labels!

I'm a big fan of the Dymo embossed label.  It's like living in an episode of Look Around You, and gives homebrew electronics an authentic Back To The Future aesthetic.  But mine has the fatal flaw of lacking a '-' character.  I think they left it off to make room for umlauts or something.

This is inconvenient when you're, to pick a frustrating example, labelling the voltage outputs on a power supply.  But more importantly, it means you can't label things with "-o-matic" suffixes.  Useless!

(I recently thought I'd broken it, but it was just a bit of off-brand label that had got stuck in the mechanism, easily rectified with tweezers.  Which is a shame in that I don't have an excuse to replace it with a proper label printer, but saves me from researching label printers, which are printers and therefore a work of Stan.)

I had an embosing one years ago - this new one is the Letratag that prints (thermal) onto either a paper or plastic strip that's self-adhesive with a kiss-cut on the back to peel easily - and it has language options for special characters as well as a whole host of little emojis and icons.  Such fun

Rob
That would get me labelling everything just for the experience, call it an Adam complex, giving names to all the creatures, plants, rocks and stuff.

Our 10 year old grandson labelled their label machine as "LABEL MACHINE" - he also made a label with my name on it and stuck it on the back of my phone!

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: spesh on January 18, 2020, 01:48:42 pm
<snipped for brevity>
Our 10 year old grandson labelled their label machine as "LABEL MACHINE" - he also made a label with my name on it and stuck it on the back of my phone!

You've got a budding ISO 9000 compliance officer* there.  :demon:

https://dilbert.com/strip/1995-11-07


* Or whatever companies call the person whose job it is to make sure that everything is properly labelled, and that no matter how poor, the company procedures are well-documented and used consistently.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on January 18, 2020, 05:10:40 pm
Gah! I'm trapped in the Dilbert continuum.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on January 18, 2020, 09:39:03 pm
Gah! I'm trapped in the Dilbert continuum.

I worked for AT&T (in the UK) back in the early 90s - Scott Adams (creator of Dilbert) was employed by the firm in the US and the whole management structure and nonsense was his inspiration for the cartoon strip.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: drossall on January 18, 2020, 10:04:00 pm
Ah - the old B&D "attachments" that turned the basic drill into other tools - IIRC I had a circular saw and a hedge trimmer.
I've still got some of those. I've never seen fit to replace the basic, 2-speed B&D corded drill that I bought after we got married, and I started to need to do some jobs around the house. Later, a friend who was upgrading to Bosch gave me some attachments that he could no longer use. To be fair, I've not really needed them either yet, but you never know.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on January 19, 2020, 08:37:16 am
Ah - the old B&D "attachments" that turned the basic drill into other tools - IIRC I had a circular saw and a hedge trimmer.
I've still got some of those. I've never seen fit to replace the basic, 2-speed B&D corded drill that I bought after we got married, and I started to need to do some jobs around the house.


My dad did the same (with a Stanley Bridges - there's a name to remember). To be fair he did eventually get around to doing some of those jobs. By proxy. When I got big enough to use the things.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on January 19, 2020, 08:57:17 am
Too many tools.

The other day I needed to drill a hole through the frame of my front door to pass a mains cable through it.
Somewhere, I knew I had a 250mm x 8mmØ drill bit (which, TBF, at that length, is pretty unusual) still in its red, telescopic RS box.
Could I find it?
No.
Searched the drill box.
Searched the drill drawer.
Searched the auxiliary drill box.
Searched the cutters box.
Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

With heavy heart I took myself off to B&Q knowing, with some certainty, that I'm unlikely to find anything in there longer than the (inadequately short) 150mm bit I already had in my drill box.
Somewhat surprisingly, I found one at 165mm.
While I didn't think this was anywhere near long enough, my inner optimist persuaded me to part with north of £8.00, on the off-chance that it might work.

No sooner than I was back indoors, that I looked in the drawer yclept 'Holes and Taps', and there it was.
Shiny and unused, in its original RS box - all 250mm's worth of 8mmØ HSS bit.  ::-)

And lo!
The front door frame was perforated, and mains cable passed through accordingly \0/

And the 165mm bit was relegated, unused, to the auxiliary drill box.
Until next time, readers.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on January 19, 2020, 09:01:42 am
Ah - the old B&D "attachments" that turned the basic drill into other tools - IIRC I had a circular saw and a hedge trimmer.
I've still got some of those. I've never seen fit to replace the basic, 2-speed B&D corded drill that I bought after we got married, and I started to need to do some jobs around the house.


My dad did the same (with a Stanley Bridges - there's a name to remember). To be fair he did eventually get around to doing some of those jobs. By proxy. When I got big enough to use the things.

I still use my old B&D 1969 2-speed, mostly to spin a polishing buffer made of old jeans.

(https://pbase.com/johnewing/image/168409637.jpg)

I still have the orbital sander, saw and hedge-trimmer attachments.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Rowan on January 19, 2020, 10:27:59 am
what sort of flap wheel do you have where you can add your own materials ?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on January 19, 2020, 10:36:07 am
One which requires the operator to wear full-face protection......  ;)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on January 19, 2020, 12:30:19 pm
You got that ^^^ right.  It's an 8mm steel rod with half a dozen lengths of dowel that trap offcuts of old jeans. It's held together with zip ties.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: spesh on January 19, 2020, 12:58:06 pm
Too many tools.

Gonna have to stop you right there. That simply does not compute.   :demon:

<ponders the spare room with its stacks of power tools in their cases, tool boxes, boxes full of tools, boxes of fixings, et cetera>

Nope, still doesn't compute. The excess tools are merely the ones I haven't used yet.   ;)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: hatler on January 19, 2020, 01:35:43 pm
Is it possible to have 'too many fixings' ?

And if so, that will necessitate some sort of definition of 'too many'.

Thoughts ?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: spesh on January 19, 2020, 01:48:14 pm
Again, there's no such thing. ;D

Sod's Law dictates that if you have what you think is a merely "sufficient" stock of screws, nails and fixing plugs, you'll find yourself running out of the particular item/s you need for a DIY project on a Sunday afternoon after the shops have closed.

Well, that's my excuse, and I'm sticking to it... ;)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on January 19, 2020, 01:56:50 pm
Ah - the old B&D "attachments" that turned the basic drill into other tools - IIRC I had a circular saw and a hedge trimmer.
I've still got some of those. I've never seen fit to replace the basic, 2-speed B&D corded drill that I bought after we got married, and I started to need to do some jobs around the house.


My dad did the same (with a Stanley Bridges - there's a name to remember). To be fair he did eventually get around to doing some of those jobs. By proxy. When I got big enough to use the things.

I still use my old B&D 1969 2-speed, mostly to spin a polishing buffer made of old jeans.

(https://pbase.com/johnewing/image/168409637.jpg)

I still have the orbital sander, saw and hedge-trimmer attachments.

... ah, I forgot that item - that was in use until only a couple of years ago when I bought a couple dedicated machines - one for polisher/brass wire brush and the other with two grades of grindstone

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on January 29, 2020, 02:11:43 pm
Just discovered CutList Optimizer https://www.cutlistoptimizer.com/. Anyone else tried it?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Redlight on January 29, 2020, 04:49:37 pm
A song for this thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_ucLvBG0qY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_ucLvBG0qY)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andrewc on January 30, 2020, 11:10:21 am
I know nothing about machining, but some people on another forum think this chap is something else, so I thought I'd share the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ_1ju9tfh0
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on January 31, 2020, 08:41:33 am
I know nothing about machining, but some people on another forum think this chap is something else, so I thought I'd share the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ_1ju9tfh0
He is mesmerising, but don't ask him to turn you up a 7/8 UNC bolt...........
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Tim Hall on January 31, 2020, 11:42:53 am
I know nothing about machining, but some people on another forum think this chap is something else, so I thought I'd share the video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ_1ju9tfh0
He is mesmerising, but don't ask him to turn you up a 7/8 UNC bolt...........
He's got a video somewhere that shows him getting something flat to within half a micron.  That's 500nm. That's the wavelength of visible light.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on January 31, 2020, 11:55:31 am
Just discovered CutList Optimizer https://www.cutlistoptimizer.com/. Anyone else tried it?

Yep - brilliant.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on January 31, 2020, 12:00:20 pm
Just spent a superb 3 days at Axminster Tools on their 2-day router and 1 day band saw courses.   I was stunned that I was able to build a small cabinet with blind dovetails, normal dovetails, slotted shelf and raised panel door - all with a router (and some jigs) - and cutting shapes and stuff with the bandsaw (although the focus of the course was largely on fitting blades and running it safely)

Highly recommended . . . . . don't be sucked into buying more toys like I was  :thumbsup:  (new router, t-track and nifty straight-edge board clamp)

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on January 31, 2020, 01:05:25 pm
MrsT wouldn't let me near a course like that unless I left my credit cards at home.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on January 31, 2020, 04:45:18 pm
MrsT wouldn't let me near a course like that unless I left my credit cards at home.

It was fine - I got 5% discount so that's all good!      Bought a storage case for the router today - Screwfix's finest.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on January 31, 2020, 04:48:06 pm
The first couple of routers I bought I made cases for, but after the first few uses I built a shelf for them instead. Too handy.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on February 25, 2020, 12:49:59 pm
I bought a cheap watch repair toolkit from the Internet. £30 so its all chinesium and isn't going anywhere near my Breitling. However its already paid for itself opening the backs and letting my change the batteries on a variety of Casio and Timex watches I had in the draw of dead watches. I might even watch a few videos and see if I can get a Seiko 5 that's gone very erratic working properly again (usually something to do with the mainspring getting caught up on something apparently).
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on February 25, 2020, 01:24:06 pm
Got one of those too, and a cheap demagnetizer. Haven't used either in anger except to take the back off a Vostok diver's watch, admire all the twiddly bits, then put it back with a fervent uh-uh.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on March 28, 2020, 01:14:37 pm
Just received these Were allan keys from Amazon:

(https://products.wera.de/images/products/additional-big/950_9_hex-plus_multicolour_1.jpg)

Lovely! Not a sharp edge on any of them. Supposed to be less likely to damage hex bolts than standard ones as well.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: hatler on March 28, 2020, 02:17:56 pm
I've so nearly clicked the button on a set of those a few times. But I really don't need any more allen keys.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on March 28, 2020, 02:32:35 pm
Part of my lockdown therapy is sorting out the garage. I'm winnowing out the crap. Today its alan keys keys, sockets and the Quality Street tin full of assorted screwdriver bits.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: chrisbainbridge on March 28, 2020, 05:36:54 pm
Just received these Were allan keys from Amazon:

(https://products.wera.de/images/products/additional-big/950_9_hex-plus_multicolour_1.jpg)

Lovely! Not a sharp edge on any of them. Supposed to be less likely to damage hex bolts than standard ones as well.

I have a set of those both metric and imperial i was given as a thank you.  Not the swanky colours though.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Zipperhead on March 28, 2020, 06:27:03 pm
Just received these Were allan keys from Amazon:

(https://products.wera.de/images/products/additional-big/950_9_hex-plus_multicolour_1.jpg)

Lovely! Not a sharp edge on any of them. Supposed to be less likely to damage hex bolts than standard ones as well.

I bought a set of those, they're so nice that I bought a little Wera tool set, then a bigger Wera socket set.

I don't regret the outlay though, they're always a pleasure to use. I don't leave them in the garage though!
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: De Sisti on March 28, 2020, 06:35:50 pm
Just received these Were allan keys from Amazon:

(https://products.wera.de/images/products/additional-big/950_9_hex-plus_multicolour_1.jpg)

Lovely! Not a sharp edge on any of them. Supposed to be less likely to damage hex bolts than standard ones as well.
How much did they cost?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on March 28, 2020, 06:55:13 pm
Just received these Were allan keys from Amazon:

(https://products.wera.de/images/products/additional-big/950_9_hex-plus_multicolour_1.jpg)

Lovely! Not a sharp edge on any of them. Supposed to be less likely to damage hex bolts than standard ones as well.
How much did they cost?

£20.60

You can get a magnetised set if you want for a bit more.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on March 28, 2020, 06:57:47 pm
I bought a set of those, they're so nice that I bought a little Wera tool set, then a bigger Wera socket set.

I don't regret the outlay though, they're always a pleasure to use. I don't leave them in the garage though!

Wera and Wiha kit is addictive I have found, and then there are Knippex and Gedore ....

Knippex Cobra slip joint pliers are the only plumbing pliers that don't make me swear and want to throw them out the window when I am using them. That reminds me I need a couple more in different sizes before I tackle the bathroom.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: De Sisti on March 29, 2020, 10:05:38 am

(https://products.wera.de/images/products/additional-big/950_9_hex-plus_multicolour_1.jpg)
Quote

How much did they cost?
Quote

£20.60
Quote
Now£24.98 :(
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 14, 2020, 08:21:54 pm
Latest acquisition 8 inch Fit Shear Pliers.

(https://theawesomer.com/photos/2017/07/fit_shear_pliers_5.jpg)

This is the sole product of Dürholt Zangen. It's the only thing they have made for about 60 years. You can get them with the lovely red acetate handles like mine or a more modern plastic handle cover but that's it. Nothing like being single minded.I have a strange affection for pliers ans buy loads at car boot sales. I also like red clear handles on tools so these are a double whammy. The box is delightfully retro too.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 14, 2020, 08:53:48 pm
Can you please stop.
I have all of the tools that I do not need.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: drossall on April 14, 2020, 09:33:49 pm
I've just ordered the Cyclus tools for removing Campagnolo bearing cups. Should be interesting...
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on April 15, 2020, 08:06:50 am
I have some spangly Axminster/UJK woodworking clamps and other bits on the way to me  . . . and have ordered an "MFT" top for the bench I'm building in the new workshop.   Pix will follow in due course.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jaded on April 15, 2020, 08:34:29 am
Can you please stop.
I have all of the tools that I do not need.
^ this.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: asterix on April 15, 2020, 09:42:00 am
When I sold the French place I had duplicates of everything I had in York and then some.

Luckily I found buyers for most of the big stuff like scaffolding, cement mixers, ladders, wheel barrows and the like.  Some I just had to leave.

I could have sold my home-made work bench but I took it all apart and managed to fit it in somehow on one of my three trips.  So glad I did as I re-assembled it a month ago and it's lovely to have it back.  It was made in one day out of French pine, threaded bar and a lump of bathroom grade chipboard, cost 30-40 euros.  Later I fitted a Record vice. 

(https://i.ibb.co/nCmLKfj/IMG-1572.jpg)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on April 16, 2020, 09:00:50 am
Not sure that having a petrol strimmer qualifies me as a tool junkie (but I do have a few more fossil-fuel powered garden tools, so maybe I do qualify).

Anyway, the aforementioned strimmer is getting on for 20 years old and the spare parts pile is near enough fully depleted, so when the primer bulb on the carb spilt and the thing spluttered to an way-over-lean halt, I thought that was very possibly that.

However, on extracting the split bulb - and it certainly didn't owe me anything - and having a measure I resorted to Goo*le. 

Imagine my surprise therefore, to find dozens of generic primer bulbs in my size.  Bought a few - the postage was more than the bulbs.

Fitted one of said bulbs and hey ho, it works perfectly! 

I'm fairly adept at finding long-lost parts for my classic Triumph motorcycles, but long lost parts for 20 yo Chinese made petrol strimmers is a whole new experience.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Wobbly John on April 16, 2020, 07:56:52 pm
Colin Furze's new video is a tour of his workshop, including most of his tools - perfect for all you tool junkies: https://youtu.be/fqTDfpIpub4  :D
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on April 17, 2020, 09:28:48 am
Can't stand that bloke.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on April 17, 2020, 09:36:02 am
Can't stand that bloke.

Yep he's a bit up himself - a couple of the people I follow on Youtube are interesting for tools and woodwork workshops -

Casual DIY   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOr70KjRTS9zUCY2hKF5E8w
Steve Ramsey   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBB7sYb14uBtk8UqSQYc9-w

Rob

...... installed a couple of the new-fangled LED batten lights in my workshop yesterday - it's as bright as an operating theatre!
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 17, 2020, 11:29:52 am
...... installed a couple of the new-fangled LED batten lights in my workshop yesterday - it's as bright as an operating theatre!

Ooh do tell I need more light. Which ones did you go for?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: asterix on April 17, 2020, 12:35:53 pm
Replaced the tubes in the garage with those last year.  What a difference.  I need more but it looks like the price has risen a fair bit. Mine were shipped from Spain, very fast delivery, too.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Tim Hall on April 17, 2020, 01:15:39 pm
Can't stand that bloke.

Yep he's a bit up himself - a couple of the people I follow on Youtube are interesting for tools and woodwork workshops -

Casual DIY   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOr70KjRTS9zUCY2hKF5E8w
Steve Ramsey   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBB7sYb14uBtk8UqSQYc9-w

Rob

...... installed a couple of the new-fangled LED batten lights in my workshop yesterday - it's as bright as an operating theatre!

I find Paul Sellers very relaxing to watch:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc3EpWncNq5QL0QhwUNQb7w (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCc3EpWncNq5QL0QhwUNQb7w)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on April 17, 2020, 01:48:59 pm
Can't stand that bloke.

Yep he's a bit up himself - a couple of the people I follow on Youtube are interesting for tools and woodwork workshops -

Casual DIY   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOr70KjRTS9zUCY2hKF5E8w
Steve Ramsey   https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBB7sYb14uBtk8UqSQYc9-w

Rob

...... installed a couple of the new-fangled LED batten lights in my workshop yesterday - it's as bright as an operating theatre!

Ta - I like channels where they use the kind of tools I'm likely to be able to afford.  Some of them use high-end pro stuff I wouldn't get my hands on in a million years.

Just now I'm scratching my head raw over where to attach a router-table top to a bench without blocking access to whatever's under it.  Difficult because every bench or tool trolley in my workshop has something already there.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 17, 2020, 01:50:42 pm
Colin Furze's new video is a tour of his workshop, including most of his tools - perfect for all you tool junkies: https://youtu.be/fqTDfpIpub4  :D
Not overstruck by the delivery, but that is 26':17" of tool envy.
I particularly like the ones which he has made himself.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Zipperhead on April 17, 2020, 02:06:57 pm
Anybody who enjoys the intersection of motorbikes and fine workmanship will enjoy Allen Millyard's channel (if they're not already watching it)  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj4hbNBjmdvXONmcxcLSNhg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj4hbNBjmdvXONmcxcLSNhg)

I haven't seen anything more complicated than a hydraulic press - and that was for turning two four cylinder crankshafts into a six cylinder one.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 17, 2020, 02:45:41 pm
Anybody who enjoys the intersection of motorbikes and fine workmanship will enjoy Allen Millyard's channel (if they're not already watching it)  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj4hbNBjmdvXONmcxcLSNhg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj4hbNBjmdvXONmcxcLSNhg)

I haven't seen anything more complicated than a hydraulic press - and that was for turning two four cylinder crankshafts into a six cylinder one.

That Velocette V-twin he has made out of two single engines is a thing of beauty.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on April 17, 2020, 03:14:32 pm
...... installed a couple of the new-fangled LED batten lights in my workshop yesterday - it's as bright as an operating theatre!

Ooh do tell I need more light. Which ones did you go for?

Screwfix - 2 x LAP Twin 4ft LED Batten White 43W 4400lm (364CC)   - £30 each - I just have two mounted lengthwise in the centre of a single garage - about 4 feet apart - light is enough for working at either of the two rows of benching along either long wall.

They're fine BUT the connector for the juice is rubbish being a sort of "bare wire and clamp" mechanism - I chopped them off and justr fitted a simple screwed nylon terminal block in each one.   Fitting to the joists was a doddle to with some U-shaped clips that they just op into.   5 stars from me.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Zipperhead on April 17, 2020, 04:22:07 pm
Anybody who enjoys the intersection of motorbikes and fine workmanship will enjoy Allen Millyard's channel (if they're not already watching it)  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj4hbNBjmdvXONmcxcLSNhg (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj4hbNBjmdvXONmcxcLSNhg)

I haven't seen anything more complicated than a hydraulic press - and that was for turning two four cylinder crankshafts into a six cylinder one.

That Velocette V-twin he has made out of two single engines is a thing of beauty.

Isn't everything he makes? I've had a look at some of them close up and the workmanship is amazing. As Eric used to say "you can't see the join"
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 19, 2020, 11:55:20 am
...... installed a couple of the new-fangled LED batten lights in my workshop yesterday - it's as bright as an operating theatre!

Ooh do tell I need more light. Which ones did you go for?

Screwfix - 2 x LAP Twin 4ft LED Batten White 43W 4400lm (364CC)   - £30 each - I just have two mounted lengthwise in the centre of a single garage - about 4 feet apart - light is enough for working at either of the two rows of benching along either long wall.

They're fine BUT the connector for the juice is rubbish being a sort of "bare wire and clamp" mechanism - I chopped them off and justr fitted a simple screwed nylon terminal block in each one.   Fitting to the joists was a doddle to with some U-shaped clips that they just op into.   5 stars from me.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on April 19, 2020, 01:52:22 pm
Been stamping round the workshop swearing for the last couple of days because I needed hinges to go on building my router table and the DIY shops are locked down. Then this morning I did a bit of archaeology, and found 10 in a biscuit-box that had been stashed in a corner and forgotten when we moved here 30 years ago. They're a bit rusty, but who cares for something utilitarian: they work.

Other stuff in the box was a bunch of Ikea-style fixings of the sort that you save after the cupboard or whatever is no longer serviceable. Save, but never use.  I have a lot of stuff like that, including a set of brass-cup drawer pulls that my father never used either.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on April 19, 2020, 09:57:05 pm
Been stamping round the workshop swearing for the last couple of days because I needed hinges to go on building my router table and the DIY shops are locked down. Then this morning I did a bit of archaeology, and found 10 in a biscuit-box that had been stashed in a corner and forgotten when we moved here 30 years ago. They're a bit rusty, but who cares for something utilitarian: they work.

Other stuff in the box was a bunch of Ikea-style fixings of the sort that you save after the cupboard or whatever is no longer serviceable. Save, but never use.  I have a lot of stuff like that, including a set of brass-cup drawer pulls that my father never used either.

Be interested to see how you're building a router table ..... I'm about to make one - the idea being that I can somehow mount the table (without the router attached) on an existing bench or flipcart to save space.  What material are you using for the actual table?

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 20, 2020, 05:30:31 am
I'm looking at this as well along with a table saw. A lot of the videos on YouTube use a table saw and router (and possibly a planer thicknesser as well) to build a table saw and router which is typical of a lot of the US stuff on their. Look its easy and cheap to make this - provided you have $50,000 of kit in your massive workshop already. There are a few that start out with nothing but a hand held circular saw and router.
I think I will end up making a ghetto table saw and router and use those to build better ones.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on April 20, 2020, 08:04:49 am
Just so you know it exists, this Wolfcraft table (http://www.wolfcraft.com/en/products/p/machine_tables-2/machine_tables_master_cut_1500/s/p/index.html) does a good job at converting your circular saw, router, jigsaw into a bench unit for occasional use, and folds away (visible in THAT video @ 3:09, behind the sheet of Useful Ply, to the right of the 8" grinder, left of the chuck-it-all-on rack.)

Although the legs are relatively flimsy, the work table is solid and the guides reasonably accurate, they can be firmed up with a clamp. If you have room (!) for a permanent bench then that would be much better, but I have used it successfully over the years to do things like creating 6m of a simulacrum of Victorian architrave mouldings, rebatting for picture frames and the like.

Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on April 20, 2020, 08:40:58 am
I'm looking at this as well along with a table saw. A lot of the videos on YouTube use a table saw and router (and possibly a planer thicknesser as well) to build a table saw and router which is typical of a lot of the US stuff on their. Look its easy and cheap to make this - provided you have $50,000 of kit in your massive workshop already. There are a few that start out with nothing but a hand held circular saw and router.
I think I will end up making a ghetto table saw and router and use those to build better ones.

If you've not seen him - have a look at Steve Ramsey on Youtube.  He's pretty down-to-earth on machines and realistic with expenditure . . . I find him quite entertaining too.  Pretty sure he has a couple of videos aimed at the starting-out level with tools etc.

I started out many, many years ago with a Black & Decker drill that you could attach accessories to : circular saw, jigsaw, sander, hedge trimmer . . .   OK at the time but over the intervening years I've bought dedicated machines for those tasks + a table saw, router (2!), multitool, Dremel, mitre saw, bandsaw.  I don't know why I have 4 electric drills - 2 corded, 2 battery????   Space is an issue as I have an almost LBS level cycle workshop side of the garage too!

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on April 20, 2020, 08:45:00 am
I'm still mulling over design.  The top is a 100 x 50 cm x 22 mm sheet of hardwood ply with an alu plate set into it, but beyond that I haven't quite decided how to mount it.  I can either (1) screw it on top of one of my benches with the router hanging down in front and one of the face vices wound all the way out to support one side of the overhang, and maybe another leg to hold up the other, or (2) I can hinge it onto the front of the trolley I built a couple of years ago to accommodate my bench sanders.

1) is simple and fast, and puts it within easy reach of the dust extraction hose, but means that the drawer under the bench, which holds sundry drawing kit, calculator and a few other useful odds & sods, will be inaccessible while it's mounted.

2) is harder. It needs two relatively sturdy hinged legs that will fold away when the table is collapsed but will lock firmly in place when it's in use.  The advantage is that being already on castors I can put it anywhere in the workshop, and even use the sanders with the router deployed.  The disadvantages are that getting the extractor hose to it won't always be as easy, and while one of the sanders works beautifully with the extractor, the other one (belt) puts dust everywhere but the extractor port; so if I use it while the router table is folded down with the router in, the latter will be covered in dust, which could easily be metal.  I'd probably need to enclose the router, or panel three sides of trolley, to protect it.

I'm leaning towards (2) just now - lockdown occupational therapy - but stock to make the legs is a bit of a problem: most of what I have is far too good and the rest is weird-shaped offcuts or MDF, which I hate.  I don't have any of those locking arms you get on folding tables, either, short of cannibalizing something else.

@Ham, thanks for the suggestion.  I was looking at the Triton table too, but I rather overstretched the tool budget in the last couple of years and MrsT's eyebrows are very expressive.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on April 20, 2020, 08:48:14 am
I started out many, many years ago with a Black & Decker drill that you could attach accessories to : circular saw, jigsaw, sander, hedge trimmer . . .

Still got mine (1969 vintage) and it still works, though God help anyone who still listens to AM radio when it's running:

(https://pbase.com/johnewing/image/168409637.jpg)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: DuncanM on April 20, 2020, 01:55:33 pm
I went a bit OCD this autumn, inspired by the ToolboxWars stuff on Cycling Tips (https://cyclingtips.com/2019/01/toolboxwars-a-battle-between-professional-cycling-tool-nerds/). CNC machined foam inserts!
Nice old computer box:
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49796875228_cba7998e4a_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iSo17h)IMG_20190831_102954 (https://flic.kr/p/2iSo17h) by duncancmartin (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90461577@N00/), on Flickr
Filled with foam and tools:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49797730722_4994464b90_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iSsoqb)IMG_20190831_103005 (https://flic.kr/p/2iSsoqb) by duncancmartin (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90461577@N00/), on Flickr

In layers that you can remove.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49797420691_f85541d1b1_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iSqNfP)IMG_20190831_103020 (https://flic.kr/p/2iSqNfP) by duncancmartin (https://www.flickr.com/photos/90461577@N00/), on Flickr

I think I even bought the Park tools hammer for this box because I knew it needed a hammer and I didn't want to mess up the foam with a cutout of something rubbish! The Wera allen keys are just awesome.
I can probably stick a couple of thin things underneath the bottom layer, but if I decide I need anything significant, I'm going to have to rethink the whole packing strategy. I'm wondering about the lack of scissors/shears/knife. It's a bit fixie focused, hence the 15mm spanner and regular crank puller.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 20, 2020, 08:51:25 pm
Does your fixie generate hideous amounts of static that necessitates fettling it wit those Wera VDE compliment screwdrivers?

Lovely storage execution BTW.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: DuncanM on April 21, 2020, 11:26:54 am
Does your fixie generate hideous amounts of static that necessitates fettling it wit those Were VDE compliment screwdrivers?
No, I just needed some new screwdrivers to go in there, and the Wera ones shouted buy me loudest!  ;)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 22, 2020, 03:50:41 pm
Mum's been moaning that her lawn has become overgrown - the person who normally trims it is, understandably, keeping socially distant.
Mum's accustomed to having the lawn looking smoother than a  snooker table.
I've tried to reassure her that she shouldn't worry about it, and that when all this is over, I'll come over and hand cut it to a height that the mower can deal with it.

To that effect, I've just taken delivery of a Japanese sickle.
Jeezus, that thing is sharp  :o.
However, having given it a swift test drive on my lawn (5m x 5m) I think it'd be fine, but not on a lawn the size of my Mum's (With Mum's lawn you need binoculars to recognise anyone standing at the far end of it).

So I've ordered a scythe.

I'm resisting the temptation to see if I can also score a long, dark hooded gown on eBay.
So I could then don the gown, grab my scythe and nip down the road to sit beside the South Circular.
That'd make a few more people stay at home, wouldn't it?
Public service, and all that.



Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: hatler on April 22, 2020, 04:10:09 pm
We want pics !
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 22, 2020, 04:38:09 pm
We want pics !
My police officer niece has advised me that if I did this I'd most definitely run the risk of being arrested.
Going equipped.
To mow lawns. ;D

ETA - Am I alone in thinking that it is a bit bizarre that it is possible to pick up a Bosch electric lawn mower, for 2/3s of the cost of  a scythe?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: drossall on April 22, 2020, 07:42:06 pm
I've just ordered the Cyclus tools for removing Campagnolo bearing cups. Should be interesting...
I enjoyed that. One front hub with one new bearing cup, two new cones and (obviously) new bearings. Basically a 15-year-old hub fully reconditioned and ready for more decades. You still can't quite beat Campagnolo for spares availability - other brands offer cones, but not necessarily cups.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Mrs Pingu on April 26, 2020, 03:30:13 pm
Not tools, but some very hot machining
https://twitter.com/cctv_idiots/status/1254388121430396928?s=19
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: ScumOfTheRoad on April 28, 2020, 12:48:26 pm
For verily I didst buy myself an Elementary Screwdriver No 1 for Christmas

https://tinkerandfix.co.uk/collections/elementary-screwdrivers

And the Lord declared that it was a Very Nice Thing Indeed.
First used in anger yesterday as I want to keep it looking nice. I may revise this policy.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 28, 2020, 07:59:09 pm
For verily I didst buy myself an Elementary Screwdriver No 1 for Christmas

https://tinkerandfix.co.uk/collections/elementary-screwdrivers

And the Lord declared that it was a Very Nice Thing Indeed.
First used in anger yesterday as I want to keep it looking nice. I may revise this policy.

Ooh that's nice.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 28, 2020, 08:04:41 pm
Everyone needs a prodder. You know a nice big screwdriver for prodding stuff you really don't want to touch yourself as its either very dirty or too close to dangerous whirly bits.

So here is a nice one I picked up at a car boot sale last year for 50p.

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/riqx1ch5jz4wkux/20200422_190343.jpg?raw=1)

It's a nice Stanley 25c, about 40cm long. Probably about 50 years old and someone has definitely been using it as a paint can opener.

Let see what we can do to make it look a bit better.

Shaft wire wheeled and polished. Handle scrapped and sanded:

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/1s933muxx367h16/20200422_195730.jpg?raw=1)

Two coats of vinyl black, two of gloss red and two of clear coat:

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/6unlzglhaddow02/20200428_192156.jpg?raw=1)

Tip re-profiled:

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/hspcu7uib233ex4/20200428_192224.jpg?raw=1)

I love the art deco ferules on Stanley's of this era:

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/5ziv5a16h5dtp8v/20200428_192300.jpg?raw=1)

Strangely here it is alongside another 25c that's a completely different size.

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/4taqr8ymyucx74i/20200428_192556.jpg?raw=1)

And now its finished it takes its place in the temple of screwdrivers:

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/mwldeibuapqiyyw/20200428_192426.jpg?raw=1)

Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: hatler on April 28, 2020, 08:07:40 pm
I'm a little concerned you don't have enough claw hammers there.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on April 28, 2020, 08:16:02 pm
Everyone needs a prodder. You know a nice bug screwdriver for prodding stuff you really don't want to touch yourself as its either very dirty or too close to dangerous whirly bits.

Can I add a few thousand volts worth of insulation to that specification?  (DAHIKT)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on April 28, 2020, 08:17:13 pm
I'm a little concerned you don't have enough claw hammers there.

Presumably most of them began life as tape measures.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 28, 2020, 08:19:14 pm
Everyone needs a prodder. You know a nice bug screwdriver for prodding stuff you really don't want to touch yourself as its either very dirty or too close to dangerous whirly bits.

Can I add a few thousand volts worth of insulation to that specification?  (DAHIKT)

Believe it or not that is actually the 40s/50s version of a VDE screwdriver. The yellow washer is supposed to insulate the handle from the shaft. Don't think I would trust it though.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: spesh on April 28, 2020, 08:22:09 pm
Everyone needs a prodder. You know a nice bug screwdriver for prodding stuff you really don't want to touch yourself as its either very dirty or too close to dangerous whirly bits.

Can I add a few thousand volts worth of insulation to that specification?  (DAHIKT)

A sparky's screwdriver sparks joy (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4003.msg2442468#msg2442468) because it ensures you don't spark?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on April 28, 2020, 08:33:29 pm
Believe it or not that is actually the 40s/50s version of a VDE screwdriver. The yellow washer is supposed to insulate the handle from the shaft. Don't think I would trust it though.

Got to love stuff that pre-dates safety  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Gattopardo on April 28, 2020, 08:39:19 pm
We want pics !
My police officer niece has advised me that if I did this I'd most definitely run the risk of being arrested.
Going equipped.
To mow lawns. ;D

ETA - Am I alone in thinking that it is a bit bizarre that it is possible to pick up a Bosch electric lawn mower, for 2/3s of the cost of  a scythe?

Get the strimer the scythe will cause you much physical pain after about 5-10 minutes that lasts for a few days.... Don't ask how I know but you can guess.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on April 28, 2020, 09:14:17 pm
JBB otp is the person to ask about scything.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Mrs Pingu on April 28, 2020, 10:12:22 pm
Pcolbeck, how did you reprofile the end? We've got a screwdriver a bit like that but the end is more like a hill shape now...
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 28, 2020, 10:14:27 pm
Pcolbeck, how did you reprofile the end? We've got a screwdriver a bit like that but the end is more like a hill shape now...

I stuck it in a vice and used a metal file on it. Then smoothed it out a bit with some 240 and 800 grit wet and dry paper. The 800 grit was overkill but there was a bit of it lying around on the bench. The file was a second cut but you could just as well us a bastard file, would just take a bit more work with the wet and dry to clean it up after.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on April 29, 2020, 07:29:47 am
What's keeping the spirit level on the wall ? - I thought maybe magnets, but spirit levels are usually ally bodied.

Also, could you please tidy up the screwdrivers a bit. So that their specifications are all facing the same way.
Thank you.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 29, 2020, 07:51:24 am
What's keeping the spirit level on the wall ? - I thought maybe magnets, but spirit levels are usually ally bodied.

Its a Stanley FatMax - it has magnets in the base.

Quote
Also, could you please tidy up the screwdrivers a bit. So that their specifications are all facing the same way.
Thank you.

They spin round of their own accord when the bench grinder/polisher is running. I really need to balance the wire wheel, everything on the bench vibrates and I have to clamp the grinder down or it walks all over bench.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on April 29, 2020, 08:24:44 am
On the subject of old tools I have a collection of screwdrivers, awls, hammers, spanners and more that either I have acquired over the past 50 years or my late father-in law (he was a woodwork teacher) acquired over about the past 75 years.

They're surplus to requirements and I'm looking to sell them (as a job lot) - if anyone's interested drop me a PM and I'll tip them out on the floor and take some pictures - they're all in an ex-military 1950s ammo box at the moment - that's possibly due to go too.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: andytheflyer on April 29, 2020, 08:55:41 am
Pcolbeck, how did you reprofile the end? We've got a screwdriver a bit like that but the end is more like a hill shape now...
Flat blade screwdrivers need regular re-profiling if they get a lot of use.  Otherwise they cam out of the screw slot and mangle the screw head.  Then the problems start........

I don't go quite as far as pcolbeck and use wet and dry, but then I only have one claw hammer....

(I'll see your claw hammers, and raise you several sets of Whitworth spanners and sockets though....  And a well-used framing square that was my dad's and could have been his dad's too......)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on April 29, 2020, 02:08:19 pm
For German tool fans these were just delivered this morning:

Knipex Cobra pipe wrench:

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/z7k7sufvw8ia638/20200429_135019.jpg?raw=1)

The only slip joint type type spanner that doesn't make you scream. Loads of adjustment and it stays adjusted plus you can turn it with one hand and the more pressure you put on it with one hand the harder it grips. After installing some new taps which ended up with redoing quite a bit of the plumbing under the sink last week I chucked all my slip joint pipe wrenches except one ancient pair of Cobras out of sheer frustration about how useless they were.

Knipex Pliers Wrench:

Same principle as the Cobra's but with smooth jaws that stay parallel so you can work on nuts without rounding or damaging them. The harder you squeeze the harder they grip due to the cam action.

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/zxlbtlzyuy6t8rk/20200429_135037.jpg?raw=1)

And look these are the "mini" versions, tiny and cute!

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/zjlbkczwvmumbf8/20200429_135144.jpg?raw=1)

Perfect for a mobile toolkit or small spaces and will still cope with things up to about 35mm for the Cobras and 25mm for the Pliers Wrench. and you get a pouch.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on April 29, 2020, 02:14:56 pm
Knipex pliers: The best quality wrong tool for the job.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 03, 2020, 08:51:34 am
Spent yesterday at my late Fathers house sorting through the garage. It was quite emotional sorting out all the tools on the workbench I remember from being a kid and that I dismantled and repaired my first motorbike engine on (the Paramo vice is coming home with me next time I go). A lifetime of little draws full of bits and bobs and screws that might come in useful.  Brought home the good stuff, 70s Britool spanners and a nice Draper Japan  1/4 socket set (he gave me his lovely Britool socket socket sets when he decided he was never going to do his own car repairs again several years ago). A lovely Eclipse drift set still in its 60s plastic pouch was a bit of a star find. Chucking stuff in the "for the tip" box was hard. The carpenters tool box that he bought on HP full of basic tools when he and my mum first got married in 1965 came back with me and will get a makeover.
I also found some stuff that I have no recollection of that I think he inherited from my great uncle. Some nice German stuff and then I found the full set of Gedore metric spanners in a bag. Then hang on I though these look a bit rough, closer inspection very very rough. Pulled one fully out of the bag and under the light, oh "Gedore India". They really were nasty. In the tip box they went. I wonder why a company with such a great reputation for high quality tools lent its brand name to an Indian subsidiary banging out cheap rubbish?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: hatler on May 03, 2020, 09:01:42 am
Spent yesterday at my late Fathers house sorting through the garage. It was quite emotional sorting out all the tools on the workbench I remember from being a kid and that I dismantled and repaired my first motorbike engine on (the Paramo vice is coming home with me next time I go). A lifetime of little draws full of bits and bobs and screws that might come in useful.  Brought home the good stuff, 70s Britool spanners and a nice Draper Japan  1/4 socket set (he gave me his lovely Britool socket socket sets when he decided he was never going to do his own car repairs again several years ago). A lovely Eclipse drift set still in its 60s plastic pouch was a bit of a star find. Chucking stuff in the "for the tip" box was hard. The carpenters tool box that he bought on HP fll of basic tools when he and my mum first got married in 1965 came back with me and will get a makeover.
I also found some stuff that I have no recollection of that I think he inherited from my great uncle. Some nice German stuff and then I found the full set of Gedore metric spanners in a bag. Then hang on I though these look a bit rough, closer inspection very very rough. Pulled one fully out of the bag and under the light, oh "Gedore India". They really were nasty. In the tip box they went. I wonder why a company with such a great reputation for high quality tools lent its brand name to an Indian subsidiary banging out cheap rubbish?
When my father passed away my brother and I had a couple of weekends clearing the house and garage. Much of the garage contents went to the tip, but I retrieved a garage full (mine) of his stuff. It sat there untouched for about four years until I was laid off. "Aha", I thought, "I'll sort that stuff out."  Four months later ...

And yes, there were a lot of tools.

Then my father-in-law passed away, his father and grandfather both ran engineering companies (and both used to have an exhibit in the marine engineering section of the Science Museum). Sorting out those tools was a gargantuan task.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: asterix on May 03, 2020, 09:19:26 am
Spent yesterday at my late Fathers house sorting through the garage. It was quite emotional sorting out all the tools on the workbench I remember from being a kid and that I dismantled and repaired my first motorbike engine on (the Paramo vice is coming home with me next time I go). A lifetime of little draws full of bits and bobs and screws that might come in useful.  Brought home the good stuff, 70s Britool spanners and a nice Draper Japan  1/4 socket set (he gave me his lovely Britool socket socket sets when he decided he was never going to do his own car repairs again several years ago). A lovely Eclipse drift set still in its 60s plastic pouch was a bit of a star find. Chucking stuff in the "for the tip" box was hard. The carpenters tool box that he bought on HP fll of basic tools when he and my mum first got married in 1965 came back with me and will get a makeover.
I also found some stuff that I have no recollection of that I think he inherited from my great uncle. Some nice German stuff and then I found the full set of Gedore metric spanners in a bag. Then hang on I though these look a bit rough, closer inspection very very rough. Pulled one fully out of the bag and under the light, oh "Gedore India". They really were nasty. In the tip box they went. I wonder why a company with such a great reputation for high quality tools lent its brand name to an Indian subsidiary banging out cheap rubbish?
When my father passed away my brother and I had a couple of weekends clearing the house and garage. Much of the garage contents went to the tip, but I retrieved a garage full (mine) of his stuff. It sat there untouched for about four years until I was laid off. "Aha", I thought, "I'll sort that stuff out."  Four months later ...

And yes, there were a lot of tools.

Then my father-in-law passed away, his father and grandfather both ran engineering companies (and both used to have an exhibit in the marine engineering section of the Science Museum). Sorting out those tools was a gargantuan task.

Still have stuff I cleared out of my dad's place. 

It amazes me how little value there is what I thought were good tools.  Seems criminal just dumping it but when even the charity shops don't want it.. 
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Tim Hall on May 03, 2020, 09:29:08 am
Spent yesterday at my late Fathers house sorting through the garage. It was quite emotional sorting out all the tools on the workbench I remember from being a kid and that I dismantled and repaired my first motorbike engine on (the Paramo vice is coming home with me next time I go). A lifetime of little draws full of bits and bobs and screws that might come in useful.  Brought home the good stuff, 70s Britool spanners and a nice Draper Japan  1/4 socket set (he gave me his lovely Britool socket socket sets when he decided he was never going to do his own car repairs again several years ago). A lovely Eclipse drift set still in its 60s plastic pouch was a bit of a star find. Chucking stuff in the "for the tip" box was hard. The carpenters tool box that he bought on HP fll of basic tools when he and my mum first got married in 1965 came back with me and will get a makeover.
I also found some stuff that I have no recollection of that I think he inherited from my great uncle. Some nice German stuff and then I found the full set of Gedore metric spanners in a bag. Then hang on I though these look a bit rough, closer inspection very very rough. Pulled one fully out of the bag and under the light, oh "Gedore India". They really were nasty. In the tip box they went. I wonder why a company with such a great reputation for high quality tools lent its brand name to an Indian subsidiary banging out cheap rubbish?
When my father passed away my brother and I had a couple of weekends clearing the house and garage. Much of the garage contents went to the tip, but I retrieved a garage full (mine) of his stuff. It sat there untouched for about four years until I was laid off. "Aha", I thought, "I'll sort that stuff out."  Four months later ...

And yes, there were a lot of tools.

Then my father-in-law passed away, his father and grandfather both ran engineering companies (and both used to have an exhibit in the marine engineering section of the Science Museum). Sorting out those tools was a gargantuan task.

Still have stuff I cleared out of my dad's place. 

It amazes me how little value there is what I thought were good tools.  Seems criminal just dumping it but when even the charity shops don't want it..
There are various charities working in the developing world that will take them.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on May 03, 2020, 09:52:23 am
Tools With A Mission https://www.twam.uk/ seem to be well organised, I've used them
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 03, 2020, 10:11:04 am
... and then I found the full set of Gedore metric spanners in a bag. Then hang on I though these look a bit rough, closer inspection very very rough. Pulled one fully out of the bag and under the light, oh "Gedore India". They really were nasty. In the tip box they went. I wonder why a company with such a great reputation for high quality tools lent its brand name to an Indian subsidiary banging out cheap rubbish?

Because most people would rather buy cheap foreign than pricier home quality. Eventually the brand gets bought up by the very people who undermined it, then devalued as they use it on junk.  Either than or the high-quality home brand shifts its manufacturing overseas or buys stuff to sell OEM under its own name.

BTW, woodworking stuff with pre-war blades stamped "warranted cast steel" is definitely worth keeping.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on May 03, 2020, 11:38:10 am
Tools With A Mission https://www.twam.uk/ seem to be well organised, I've used them
Tools for Self-Reliance is another. https://www.tfsr.org
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: ScumOfTheRoad on May 11, 2020, 04:36:31 pm
A holder for spanners and for tap and die set - advice please.
I bought a set of six(?) combination ratchet and open ended spanners in Lidl. Nice tools.
They came in a hard plastic package - but are loose when you remove them.
I do not have a tool board so store everything in a carry around nylon toolbag. Ideas please on how to clip them together.

Similarly I bought a tap and die set from Lidl - again in a wasteful sealed hard plastick pack. these currently live in a ziploc bag.
Ideas on how to give them a neat home please.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Little Jim on May 11, 2020, 05:20:38 pm
I eventually gave up on small tool boxes and bags when it all got too much and bought a set of metal drawers.  And then another set...  You eventually end up with a full-size cabinet on wheels and realise that you should have just bought one of those to start with.  Have a look on ebay for a second-hand one as they are really expensive new even if you don't buy Snap On.  The drawers that I've got are some unknown brand called American-something-or-other and seem very nearly as good as the Snap On ones that I've seen but they were a LOT less money.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 11, 2020, 05:22:03 pm
T'other week in Aldi they had a double wall-board with a set of lidless hook-on boxes & a rack for small tools, all for 19.99€. OK, gimme.  Trouble is that I haven't anywhere handy to put it, and the boxes will fill up with sawdust, so now it's hiding under a bench. Maybe MrsT can use it for planting seeds or summat.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on May 11, 2020, 06:12:18 pm
I eventually gave up on small tool boxes and bags when it all got too much and bought a set of metal drawers.  And then another set...  You eventually end up with a full-size cabinet on wheels and realise that you should have just bought one of those to start with.  Have a look on ebay for a second-hand one as they are really expensive new even if you don't buy Snap On.  The drawers that I've got are some unknown brand called American-something-or-other and seem very nearly as good as the Snap On ones that I've seen but they were a LOT less money.

MachineMart has/had some offers on tool drawer storage stuff.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Jurek on May 11, 2020, 07:46:46 pm
A holder for spanners and for tap and die set - advice please.
I bought a set of six(?) combination ratchet and open ended spanners in Lidl. Nice tools.
They came in a hard plastic package - but are loose when you remove them.
I do not have a tool board so store everything in a carry around nylon toolbag. Ideas please on how to clip them together.

Similarly I bought a tap and die set from Lidl - again in a wasteful sealed hard plastick pack. these currently live in a ziploc bag.
Ideas on how to give them a neat home please.
You should keep the taps separate from one another.
They'll damage if they knock together.
Easiest way is a lump of soft wood into which you've drilled some blind holes - one hole for each tap.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on May 11, 2020, 08:03:55 pm
.... in Aldi they had a double wall-board with a set of lidless hook-on boxes ....

Well, it was Aldi
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on May 11, 2020, 08:05:47 pm
You should keep the taps separate from one another.

'tis the BRITISH way   ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfHgUu_8KgA
https://youtu.be/HfHgUu_8KgA
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: asterix on May 11, 2020, 09:33:45 pm
You should keep the taps separate from one another.

'tis the BRITISH way   ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfHgUu_8KgA
https://youtu.be/HfHgUu_8KgA

Our student digs was an old house with the attic tank.  We thought nothing of it until I came back after the hols a day or so early and ran a bath.  Out came tiny bones and feathers.  I got into the attic and, yes there was a dead pigeon in the tank, very very dead.  Well rotted in fact.

Some one hadn't bothered to replace the lid and Percy the pigeon was not a swimmer.  It was not a nice job draining and clearing the tank but I was awarded a bottle of whisky (Chivas Regal) out of it from my housemates who then helped me drink it in one session. 

Very pleased to ditch the tanks in our York house.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Vince on May 11, 2020, 11:35:34 pm
Everyone needs a prodder. You know a nice big screwdriver for prodding stuff you really don't want to touch yourself as its either very dirty or too close to dangerous whirly bits.

So here is a nice one I picked up at a car boot sale last year for 50p.

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/riqx1ch5jz4wkux/20200422_190343.jpg?raw=1)

It's a nice Stanley 25c, about 40cm long. Probably about 50 years old and someone has definitely been using it as a paint can opener.


<Snip>

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/6unlzglhaddow02/20200428_192156.jpg?raw=1)


So you still need a prodder?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: asterix on May 12, 2020, 09:44:19 am
This one's a bit past that sort of restoration.  It's a Marples apparently.  Very effective still despite no regrinding for years.

(https://i.ibb.co/XxZNhX5/IMG-5605.jpg)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 12, 2020, 09:56:40 am
.... in Aldi they had a double wall-board with a set of lidless hook-on boxes ....

Well, it was Aldi

 ;D
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 12, 2020, 10:07:50 am
This one's a bit past that sort of restoration.  It's a Marples apparently.  Very effective still despite no regrinding for years.

(https://i.ibb.co/XxZNhX5/IMG-5605.jpg)

That ones perfect for a restoration. So long as the shafts straight it will be great. An hour or so with a wire wheel a buffer and a scraper and it will be nice and shiny any ready for a re spray or just a shellacking of the handle dependant on your taste.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 12, 2020, 10:25:01 am
This one's a bit past that sort of restoration.  It's a Marples apparently.  Very effective still despite no regrinding for years.

(https://i.ibb.co/XxZNhX5/IMG-5605.jpg)

That ones perfect for a restoration. So long as the shafts straight it will be great. An hour or so with a wire wheel a buffer and a scraper and it will be nice and shiny any ready for a re spray or just a shellacking of the handle dependant on your taste.

Yeah. I have one like that, that was my father's, but someone had used it as a lever and it's off-true.  That flat bit of the shaft is vulnerable.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: diapsaon0 on May 12, 2020, 10:43:55 am
This one's a bit past that sort of restoration.  It's a Marples apparently.  Very effective still despite no regrinding for years.

(https://i.ibb.co/XxZNhX5/IMG-5605.jpg)

That ones perfect for a restoration. So long as the shafts straight it will be great. An hour or so with a wire wheel a buffer and a scraper and it will be nice and shiny any ready for a re spray or just a shellacking of the handle dependant on your taste.

Yeah. I have one like that, that was my father's, but someone had used it as a lever and it's off-true.  That flat bit of the shaft is vulnerable.


I've got one too which belonged to my father.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: asterix on May 12, 2020, 12:12:53 pm
This one's a bit past that sort of restoration.  It's a Marples apparently.  Very effective still despite no regrinding for years.

(https://i.ibb.co/XxZNhX5/IMG-5605.jpg)

That ones perfect for a restoration. So long as the shafts straight it will be great. An hour or so with a wire wheel a buffer and a scraper and it will be nice and shiny any ready for a re spray or just a shellacking of the handle dependant on your taste.

Yeah. I have one like that, that was my father's, but someone had used it as a lever and it's off-true.  That flat bit of the shaft is vulnerable.


I've got one too which belonged to my father.

That would have belonged to my grandfather.  He liked good tools and left a lot of good stuff to my father who didn't respect such things and always bought cheap if he had to.   I did tidy that up because it had been used as a cold chisel and the handle was rough but it's fine as it is and will snap screws before it slips.  I have two drivers of last resort of which it one, the other is for cross headed screws.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Morat on May 13, 2020, 11:00:47 am
I've just bought a set of Cobalt drill bits. They're so.... perfect!
1mm - 10mm in 0.5mm increments.

Let's hope I don't snap any.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on May 26, 2020, 10:16:00 pm
Just received two Gedore no 1B spanners of that eBay. A 17mm and a new old stock 12mm. Can a spanner be a thing of beauty? I think they can, these are just lovely. I am going to have to get a full set of the common sizes, might take a while. They have been producing these unchanged for decades. You really have to handle one to appreciate it, they aren't shiny like a lot of spanners just perfectly weighted and quite slim.

(http://alloy-artifacts.org/Photos/tools/gedore_c16mm_1b_wrench_combo_offset_van_f_cropped_inset2_w560_h243.jpg)

Not my picture. It's from http://alloy-artifacts.org.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on May 27, 2020, 12:00:32 am
I just broke my second favourite[1] screwdriver bodging the landlord's shitty kitchen drawer.   >:(

Did I mention that I've replaced this with one[1] of Wera's finest?

I'm particularly taken with the grippy FRIKKIN LAZER treatment of the tip.  I bought a box of posh woodscrews last time I (literally) made the bed, and they came with a corresponding driver bit that was similarly enhanced, which explains why it's always been so suspiciously good at staying engaged when power-driven...

I'm less convinced by the grip.  Though I'm sure what it lacks in twiddle it'll make up for next time I have to apply ham-fisted monkey force to something.


[1] Well, actually two - in the general spirit of the thread it seemed silly not to get a decent PZ0 at the same time.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on May 27, 2020, 12:18:18 pm
With my workshop/garage and an increase in woodworking . . . and therefore dust from machinery I've invested in one of these
(https://i.ibb.co/vm9GTMD/IMG-20200522-153000728.jpg)
- bit difficult to see but it's made by Record, has a fan and filter system that can run at different speeds and a timer to have it running while you're working and then carry on for up to 4 hours to "scrub the air" removing micro-particles.  It has a remote handset, hence being able to hang it from the ceiling and control it.

The difference it makes is remarkable, especially when routing MDF (I, of course, have my respirator mask on for the dusty work)

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 27, 2020, 01:54:10 pm
That's what I could do with but (a) my ceiling would fall in and (b) I'd be bashing my head on it all the time.  I've thought of building a DIY one into my dexion shelving, though.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on May 27, 2020, 02:09:54 pm
That's what I could do with but (a) my ceiling would fall in and (b) I'd be bashing my head on it all the time.  I've thought of building a DIY one into my dexion shelving, though.

.... it's just about clear of my head (I'm about 6'4") by about 1.5 inches (will be more when I can get a haircut  ;D) - I now have some yellow fluo tape on the timber frame holding it just as a reminder.

In the same vein - I have insatlled a run of 40mm waste pipe along the wall above the benching with Tee pieces to connect the various dust creating machines (mitre saw, table saw, sander, routers, bandsaw etc) - that connects to a Henry vacuum cleaner ( at the moment it's direct but I have a small cyclone that'll be on a separate collection drum)   Machines all use flexible hoses with 40mm waste pipe push fit connectors - too complicated to make blast gates so I keep all the Tee inputs closed with a simple waste pipe plug and just remove the nearest plug and connect the hose from the machine in use.  The Henry is on a plug-in socket unit that has a remote control.  It all works a treat to capture most of the sawdust.

Rob

Edit:  If you're wonderng, the grey shrouds in the background are lightweight plastic/nylon covers that are fitted over 3 of my bikes that hang in the garage to reduce the dust.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 27, 2020, 03:31:21 pm
I ought to do something similar to your 40mm pipe but I'm too lazy.  In the adjoining bit of the barn I've got a Titan vacuum cleaner sucking on an old drum that acts as a cyclone of sorts. The hose goes through the wall, and in the shop I have around 10m of flexible 40mm hose suspended from the ceiling on bungee cords.  It works, and I can plug it into conventional vacuum cleaner tools in the unlikely event that I want to vacuum the floor.

My bikes live in a corner, under the plastic sheeting from a mattress.  Just now I can't work on them because of my defunct ceiling-hook "system". I do have a workstand but the wretched thing was designed to trip people up so it's in the next bit of the barn, in disgrace.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on May 27, 2020, 04:21:24 pm
I ought to do something similar to your 40mm pipe but I'm too lazy.  In the adjoining bit of the barn I've got a Titan vacuum cleaner sucking on an old drum that acts as a cyclone of sorts. The hose goes through the wall, and in the shop I have around 10m of flexible 40mm hose suspended from the ceiling on bungee cords.  It works, and I can plug it into conventional vacuum cleaner tools in the unlikely event that I want to vacuum the floor.

My bikes live in a corner, under the plastic sheeting from a mattress.  Just now I can't work on them because of my defunct ceiling-hook "system". I do have a workstand but the wretched thing was designed to trip people up so it's in the next bit of the barn, in disgrace.

I only have a single garage where I have a "cycle workshop" side and "woodworking" side - the cycle side has a full-blown Park Tool shop workstand (the one with the big heavy steel floorplate) but it's mounted on a trolley with locking castors so I can wheel the plate under a shelf unit, with the arm tucked in the top shelf.  Two of the machines - planer/thicknesser and table saw are also on trolleys with castors so they can be wheeled under the woodworking MFT bench.

I may get round to some pix!

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on May 27, 2020, 04:28:28 pm
Can a spanner be a thing of beauty? I think they can, these are just lovely.

(http://alloy-artifacts.org/Photos/tools/gedore_c16mm_1b_wrench_combo_offset_van_f_cropped_inset2_w560_h243.jpg)

Not my picture. It's from http://alloy-artifacts.org.
I think the picture proves that you're right.  :)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on May 27, 2020, 05:51:45 pm
Over recent years I've twice decided to buy cheapo tools (at least twice that come to mind)

#1 - 1/2" router. A B&Q Titan. I've had a Trend 1/4" for many years, bought thinking they were first line, and have been distinctly mildly unimpressed. "Little" things like the plunge lock not working properly, led me to buy the Titan as it would only be for occasional use. On a cost per use basis, I suppose it is fair as I don't use it much, but it really isn't nice. I'm thinking I might invest in a second hand Makita or the like. Anyone fancy a Titan? Going cheep?

#2 - a ScrewStation multi tool. How had I survived for so long without a multitool? But boyohboy it gives bad vibes. Replaced now with a Makita bare-body. Anyone fancy the old one? Gives you a good buzz.

All in all, unsurprising outcome for buying cheap.

Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on May 27, 2020, 06:24:18 pm
Over recent years I've twice decided to buy cheapo tools (at least twice that come to mind)

#1 - 1/2" router. A B&Q Titan. I've had a Trend 1/4" for many years, bought thinking they were first line, and have been distinctly mildly unimpressed. "Little" things like the plunge lock not working properly, led me to buy the Titan as it would only be for occasional use. On a cost per use basis, I suppose it is fair as I don't use it much, but it really isn't nice. I'm thinking I might invest in a second hand Makita or the like. Anyone fancy a Titan? Going cheep?

#2 - a ScrewStation multi tool. How had I survived for so long without a multitool? But boyohboy it gives bad vibes. Replaced now with a Makita bare-body. Anyone fancy the old one? Gives you a good buzz.

All in all, unsurprising outcome for buying cheap.

I'd hesitate at buying a secondhand router as many will have had a hard life - I had a basic router that did what I wanted (Energer I think) and still does small work - ealry this year I bought a Bosch - dunno which model, about £130 - and it's excellent.

.... and you're right, I've bought a couple of cheapies (Dremel and multitool lookalikes) that turned out to be crap and have been replaced.  That said, I have 3 or of the Aldi Ferrex or Workzone tools and for DIY they are pretty good.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on May 29, 2020, 08:10:58 pm
Japanese pull-saw arrived today from Axminster Tools - superb.   

I need make a very fine cut, about 1.9m long, to remove a mahogany moulding from a bookcase and then re-use it on another section of the bookcase - the sharpness of the teeth (which have almost no "set") and the pulling rather than pushing action has made the job pretty simple - cut about half-way along so far - the blade slices through the glued area between the the moulding and the frame very smoothly, making minimal dust.

Highly recommended.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: orienteer on May 29, 2020, 10:47:37 pm
I still have a Japanese saw I bought in Japan about 45 years ago, in a Daimaru department store.

They cut very fine as the thin blade doesn't have to resist buckling. The other useful feature having two sides, fine and coarse, which you can flip between; start with the fine, then change to coarse for faster cutting.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on May 30, 2020, 07:31:38 am
I still have a Japanese saw I bought in Japan about 45 years ago, in a Daimaru department store.

They cut very fine as the thin blade doesn't have to resist buckling. The other useful feature having two sides, fine and coarse, which you can flip between; start with the fine, then change to coarse for faster cutting.

Mine is a single-sided blade - with teeth for hardwoods  : https://www.axminstertools.com/hardwood-kataba-saw-250mm-103692   - the handle is very long which makes it very easy to get good long strokes with the blade.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on May 30, 2020, 08:10:08 am
I ought to do something similar to your 40mm pipe but I'm too lazy.  In the adjoining bit of the barn I've got a Titan vacuum cleaner sucking on an old drum that acts as a cyclone of sorts. The hose goes through the wall, and in the shop I have around 10m of flexible 40mm hose suspended from the ceiling on bungee cords.  It works, and I can plug it into conventional vacuum cleaner tools in the unlikely event that I want to vacuum the floor.

My bikes live in a corner, under the plastic sheeting from a mattress.  Just now I can't work on them because of my defunct ceiling-hook "system". I do have a workstand but the wretched thing was designed to trip people up so it's in the next bit of the barn, in disgrace.

I only have a single garage where I have a "cycle workshop" side and "woodworking" side - the cycle side has a full-blown Park Tool shop workstand (the one with the big heavy steel floorplate) but it's mounted on a trolley with locking castors so I can wheel the plate under a shelf unit, with the arm tucked in the top shelf.  Two of the machines - planer/thicknesser and table saw are also on trolleys with castors so they can be wheeled under the woodworking MFT bench.

I may get round to some pix!

Rob

Unfortunately, my workbenches already have all the stuff under them that they can take.

My stand is a 69€ Decathlon effort, very sturdy but with four feet designed to catch the unwary when there isn't a bike on it.  It's also a PITA to take apart & stow, especially if you know you might need to get it out again tomorrow.  I'll have to see if I can make a sort of box girder out of spare boards and fix it across the width of the workshop to support both ceiling and bike hooks.  The roof above the ceiling is a very rough concrete slab that I really do not fancy trying to drill holes in - lots of gravel or whatever in it.

I hate these niggly jobs that get in the way of doing real stuff.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: TheLurker on May 30, 2020, 09:10:24 pm
Robgul's post reminded me, this is one of my favourite tools.  I've yet to find a better way of undoing cock-ups in balsa airframes.  It lets me cut stringers / ribs out without crushing surrounding wood.  Of course it'd be far, far better to not cock things up in the first place, but...

(https://i.ibb.co/P6m1mY4/SawBlade.jpg) (https://ibb.co/nLgQg0f)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: hubner on May 30, 2020, 09:27:21 pm
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Saw blades for No3 scalpel handle.

 (31 TPI, 68 TPI, 48 TPI, 31 TPI).

Made from 0.12mm thick stainless steel.

 ;D
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Morat on June 04, 2020, 10:11:02 am
Firefox popped this up on my home page. I have a sudden desire for Japanese!

https://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/maintain-the-garden/japanese-garden-tools/
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on June 04, 2020, 10:29:24 am
Firefox popped this up on my home page. I have a sudden desire for Japanese!

https://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/maintain-the-garden/japanese-garden-tools/

Nice. £79 for a trowel though  :o

Im looking for one of those planting hoes. A pickaxe sized mattock gets used a lot in our garden and a smaller one handed one would be great.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: fruitcake on June 04, 2020, 11:10:13 am
Bought an all steel dowelling jig made by Stanley. It is designed for lining up the drill bit for drilling holes for dowels. But as a tool that allows you to line up the drill before you do the drilling, it's useful beyond making joints. Kind of a portable alternative to a pillar drill.

I now need to find metric bushings since the imperial ones that come with it are of limited use in the 21st century. (Except for the one that's about 8mm)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Morat on June 05, 2020, 06:14:09 pm
Firefox popped this up on my home page. I have a sudden desire for Japanese!

https://www.gardenersworld.com/how-to/maintain-the-garden/japanese-garden-tools/

Nice. £79 for a trowel though  :o

Im looking for one of those planting hoes. A pickaxe sized mattock gets used a lot in our garden and a smaller one handed one would be great.

yes! I'm sure it's an heirloom-quality trowel. I'm just not sure how excited my decendants would be to inherit one :D
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on June 14, 2020, 05:48:48 pm
Heads up for cheap clamps

ALDI has sets of trigger clamps in the special offers this week (14 June) - 2 off 150mm & 2 off small ones (? size) at £4.99 the set.

Small aren't much use but the bigger ones are pretty good for what they do and the price . .. I bought 3 sets today to add to the 2 sets I bought last time they were on offer. They're only in the shops.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Basil on June 15, 2020, 01:07:30 pm
Some time back I asked a carpenter mate how you get saws sharpened these days.
"You just buy a new one", he muttered.
Today, I finally got round to doing that.  Wow, that was so much easier.  Hot knife through butter.
I really should have done this two years ago.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: T42 on June 15, 2020, 01:17:38 pm
I've done that myself a couple of times - I even have a setting tool hanging on the workshop wall. Not very enjoyable, so I haven't done it since. I hardly ever use handsaws these days anyway.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on June 15, 2020, 01:32:06 pm
I've done that myself a couple of times - I even have a setting tool hanging on the workshop wall. Not very enjoyable, so I haven't done it since. I hardly ever use handsaws these days anyway.

You cant resharpen modern saws (unless you buy an expensive one made in the traditional way). Once they are blunt that's it buy a new one, they do stay sharp a long time though. Not sure if you can re set them either, never tried on a modern one. The hardening on the teeth of modern saws makes them just as hard as a saw file so the file doesn't work. Only the tips are hardened but then the metal under that is too soft for a saw blade anyway.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on June 15, 2020, 02:23:10 pm
I've done that myself a couple of times - I even have a setting tool hanging on the workshop wall. Not very enjoyable, so I haven't done it since. I hardly ever use handsaws these days anyway.

You cant resharpen modern saws (unless you buy an expensive one made in the traditional way). Once they are blunt that's it buy a new one, they do stay sharp a long time though. Not sure if you can re set them either, never tried on a modern one. The hardening on the teeth of modern saws makes them just as hard as a saw file so the file doesn't work. Only the tips are hardened but then the metal under that is too soft for a saw blade anyway.

Yep - but then even quite good quality saws aren't expensive nowadays ... and do stay sharp.  I used to get saws sharpened at a place near Tewkesbury years ago but it reached the point where the cost of sharpening and the time/fuel to take and collect made it unecomical.

While we're on the subject of saws - I've just bought a couple of Japanese pull-saws - very sharp and brilliant for very fine cuts.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on June 15, 2020, 02:39:16 pm
Indeed. I was just looking at my collection of abused saws in the garage at the weekend. Had them all at least ten years most probably twenty. I'm thinking I should just chuck the lot and buy new ones, a cross-cut a ripping one, a small toolbox saw and a dovetail saw. I have a couple of old small brass backed cross-cuts that I'll keep as they are nice to look at bu all the old modern saws can just go to the tip I think.
Anyone have any preference for new saws, Bahco, Stanley or something else?

I recently picked up one of those small Japanese pull saws but haven't had a chance to try it yet.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: asterix on June 16, 2020, 08:16:08 am
Bahco.

Still have my grandfathers old saw as a curiosity.  It has a sticker on saying where it was last taken to be sharpened.

Was using this yesterday to remove a tree stump - it reaches the parts where other bars cannot go:

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Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on June 16, 2020, 08:22:03 am
I have one of those. Brilliant for digging fence post holes as well along with one of these:

(https://www.clarketooling.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/177439E2-B1E4-4D60-8F82-714A3D43A3D5-huge.jpg)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on June 16, 2020, 08:29:08 am
Bahco.

Still have my grandfathers old saw as a curiosity.  It has a sticker on saying where it was last taken to be sharpened.

Was using this yesterday to remove a tree stump - it reaches the parts where other bars cannot go:

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/41VwQUGGXjL._AC_SL1010_.jpg)

When I was getting saws sharpened the firm doing them used to write your name on the blade . . . . I still have an ancient tenon saw with my name on it (must have last been sharpened in about 1988/89)

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: hubner on June 16, 2020, 05:43:14 pm
Traditional saws are made from steel that is soft enough to sharpened with a file.

Modern "hardpoint" saws have hardened teeth and cannot be sharpened with a file. They stay sharp longer but are supposed to be thrown away when they get blunt. Although in theory they could be sharpened with a diamond file.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 16, 2020, 05:56:43 pm
I sharpen and set all my saws myself, it's a doddle and doesn't take much time to do.

The fine dovetail and crosscut saws get set with a nail punch and the others with a setting tool. I think there's nothing like a well sharpened and set handsaw and I prefer these to the plastic handle throw away rubbish.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Basil on June 16, 2020, 06:21:41 pm
I sharpen and set all my saws myself, it's a doddle and doesn't take much time to do.


Yeahbut, you are the 'Kim' of hard-core carpentry and masonry.  The rest of us here are mere mortals.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on June 27, 2020, 10:21:50 pm
This seems relevant to our interests....

If there is enough sticking out to get hold of then buy a pair of Engineer Neji-Saurus pliers.

Neji-Saurus at Amazon (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Engineers-Advanced-Removal-Combination-Neji-Saurus/dp/B07F2KB2JH/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&keywords=engineer+pliers&qid=1593283984&sr=8-14)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51i5v3CYlaL._AC_SL1000_.jpg)

They are Japanese and specifically designed for removing things where the head has sheared off or is damaged. They have grooves at 90deg to normal pliers. They work brilliantly and come in different sizes. Also they look cool and have a great name.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on June 27, 2020, 11:10:40 pm
I now realise that I have (ab)used such pliers (of inferior quality I suspect, but similar longitudinal grooves) and not realised what they were for.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on June 28, 2020, 09:43:45 am
As well as the various sizes of pliers they also do a set of mole grips designed on the same principle in case you have a bigger job, you also see Vampliers which look the same as Engineer pliers but are red. These are made by Engineer but rebranded for a US tool distribution company. I haven't got the mole grip version so no idea how well these work. Interesting company in that apart from the pliers they really seem focused around precision tools for electronics.

https://www.engineertools-jp.com/home (https://www.engineertools-jp.com/home)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71RQOpMt96L._AC_SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Kim on June 28, 2020, 11:06:32 am
I have a couple of their crimp tools.  They're in no way comparable to a connector-specific ratchet crimper that's 5 times the price, but they make up for that by being able - with a bit of practice - to give acceptable results on a wide variety of small connectors.  Think JST and Dupont connectors, up to the sort of thing you use on dynamo wiring.
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: robgul on June 29, 2020, 12:56:55 pm
As reported earlier my old B&D circular saw needs to be pensioned off for less critical work  (making fences etc) so a new track/plunge saw from Mr Screwix's Emporium was purchased today  :thumbsup:   Admittedly a "value" model but it does what I want to do with nice smooth and straight cuts.

First job for the saw will be cutting some panels to make a dust-extraction hood for my mitre saw - it has a pipe etc but the sawdust sprays out from the blade and covers everything - there will be a second suction pipe to the cyclone/shop-vac.

Rob
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: Ham on June 30, 2020, 02:54:50 pm
In the market for mole grips, any recommendations?
Title: Re: Confessions of a tool junkie
Post by: pcolbeck on June 30, 2020, 03:03:48 pm
In the market for mole grips, any recommendations?

Grip-On. (https://www.amazon.co.uk/Grip-On-111-10-Adjustable-Self-Locking-Pliers/dp/B000KOQB68/ref=lp_3368352031_1_4?srs=3368352031&ie=UTF8&qid=1593525689&sr=8-4)

They come in different sizes and jaw shapes. Plus they are a fetching shade of orange.

I have some long nosed ones and they are very nice (well for mole grips which by definition are an abomination that should be avoided if at all possible).