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General Category => Audax => PBP 2019 => Topic started by: Redlight on April 24, 2019, 06:46:24 pm

Title: Arrivée piece for PBP first timers
Post by: Redlight on April 24, 2019, 06:46:24 pm

I'm looking for words of wisdom and lessons learned from PBP anciens to compile a piece for the next Arrivee.

Do you have any nuggets of advice that you'd like to share - things to do or things not to do?  Even better if you have a story about how you came to learn this!  If you've been a DNF, how did you or will you avoid that happening again?

If so, and you can put them in 50-60 snappy words, please PM me.  I've already directly contacted a few people so if you're one of them, please ignore this.

I'd need your real name, rather than forum name, how many PBPs you have ridden, and a photo would would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Title: Re: Arrivée piece for PBP first timers
Post by: Phil W on April 24, 2019, 08:12:50 pm
Sent a couple of tips by PM.
Title: Re: Arrivée piece for PBP first timers
Post by: Exit Stage Left on April 24, 2019, 08:31:42 pm
How would one send a picture?
Title: Re: Arrivée piece for PBP first timers
Post by: Redlight on April 24, 2019, 09:33:58 pm
How would one send a picture?

I'm giving my personal email address to contributors. 
Title: Re: Arrivée piece for PBP first timers
Post by: vorsprung on April 25, 2019, 02:25:40 pm
PBPs: two

my story (a lot more than 50 words, sorry)
I was at the back as I’d lost my brevet card and had lost time retrieving it. I was trying to get to the next control with enough time in hand to sleep.  Trouble was, I’d been awake for more than 24h.  I was finding it difficult to stay awake and getting slower and slower.   I took some disgusting tasting caffeine gels - this did not work.  I looked out for a place to stop - there was nowhere.  Then I had a great idea.  I put on my earbuds and selected some techno on my phone.  This is what I’d been listening to on the turbo.  Soon I was in a state of mind for pedalling fast and overtaking all the backmarkers and beaten people around me.  I caught a Belgian guy in a deserted midnight village, he tried to stay with me but couldn’t.  I got to Loudéac with enough time in hand to get some sleep on the floor of the cafeteria
Title: Re: Arrivée piece for PBP first timers
Post by: vorsprung on April 25, 2019, 02:31:57 pm
Here's another one
( (at the 1000km mark, 2011)
PBPs: two

Figure out the fastest, most comfortable tyres you can get and fit them new the week before the event.  New tyres are less worn and less likely to puncture.  In 2007 I used GP 4 Seasons 28mm and in 2011 I used Schwalbe Ultremo 28mm.  Both of these types of tyres are pretty worn out after 2000km but if they are new it doesn't matter!
Title: Re: Arrivée piece for PBP first timers
Post by: Ian H on April 25, 2019, 04:35:39 pm
Here's something I found from 2007.  Far too long, and probably unhelpful.  But it might amuse.  Amnesiac Auk hasn't been heard from for quite  a while.
Amnesiac Goes To Paris, then Brest, then back again.

I’d promised myself never again. Twice. So I'm feeling miffed at becoming caught up in the frenzy to the extent of finding myself standing again in a crowd of Paris-Brest hopefuls. And in the rain!

The Good Doctor and I set sail from Portsmouth to Le Havre, this particular sailing chosen for its comparative unpopularity with the audax crowds. However, there were two or three other groups on the boat and it wasn't until after crossing the Seine at Quillebeuf  that we managed to shake the last of them off.

Lanes and coffee stops.

We navigated Evreux with the aid of a compass and ground to a halt in a place called Anet, with a large chateau and a small hotel-bar.

Arriving unexpectedly at the campsite the following morning, the Good Doctor departed into the sea of mud to search for his hosts, while I commandeered the wrong chalet. Strictly speaking it was not wrong when I commandeered it, but became so later when Mrs Pilbeam handed the campsite office a top-secret list containing chalet numbers with names appended. This resulted in a difficult herding operation involving loss of temper and, of course, mud, to corral all the auks in their proper berths.

Willesden arrived.

In my absence my fellow chaleteers voted me the loudest snorer and thus solo occupant of the double room at the end. I was unsure whether to be annoyed at this, especially when they discussed piling spare mattresses against the door for sound insulation.

A friend of one of the others turned up. It was his first Paris-Brest. He said very little. He smiled not at all and made minimal eye-contact. He sat outside, a nervous leg movement causing the chalet to vibrate gently.

More riders arrived, nervously or cheerfully acknowledging their fellows.

It rained. Tents needed mooring ropes.

We repaired to the bar for pizzas and conviviality. Unfortunately I got into the wrong company and the conviviality continued into the small hours, making the task of finding my way home un-muddied difficult. A certain Mr Hummerstone is solely to blame for this mishap.

Sunday came. We went for the bike check. The bike check was cancelled  - because of the rain. At the head of the longest queue in the hall a harassed-looking Noel Simpson was doling out paperwork. Food that evening was at an Italian restaurant. The waiters were overwhelmed to the extent that everyone got food, but not necessarily what they'd ordered. Dave Minter made an Australian joke about going to Brest for milk.

Monday. The mood was more sombre, the puddles, deeper.  At the appointed time the Monday night starters drifted off. We, the 84hr lot, went early to bed and dozed fitfully. I was woken by heavy rain, possibly thunder, though it may just have been fireworks sending the riders off into the wet night.

Tuesday, 3am. Arise and breakfast sleepily, then fumble with bike locks and luggage, and squelch off to the start. 

After interminable and semi-audible speeches concerning hazards along the route, we departed - a calmer depart than the nervous ninety hour lot, and fewer of us. Only a couple of riders failed to avoid the bollards and kerbs as we rode darkly through suburbia. The rain recommenced.

Always the line of red lights into the distance.

Twice I caught Mr Hopper on his barrow.

Said I, 'I shall run out of insults if we keep meeting like this.'
Said he, 'Booger off,  you whiskery old sod.'

He always has a kind word.

At Tinteniac a reporter asked me why I was riding. I thought about replying 'for charity', but decided the joke would be wasted.

As we went west the sun came out. But not for long.

I dozed briefly and uncomfortably at Loudeac, the final control before Brest. Somewhere along the way Ivo Miesen loomed out of the mist and said that nearly all the Italians and Spanish had packed because of the weather. On the bridge at Brest stood Charlotte Barnes gazing absently into the distance. I assumed she'd packed but, at Loudeac on the return, she sat beside me laughing at a little joke I'd made about the best part of the ride so far. Or perhaps I was serious - on a long ride certain things attain a disproportionate importance.

Somewhere I had two hours sleep that turned into three.

Heavy showers. I believe I met the Mayor of Mortagne along the way.

I rode with a French group until one of their number stopped for a pee and failed to reappear. I left them rolling slowly and looking over their shoulders.

I followed a tandem rolling fast downhill. As they slowed on the flat I passed and thanked them. The captain was busy explaining the physics of a tandem slipstream to his stoker.

After Mortagne on the way back  I had an attack of sleepiness. There was nothing for it but to stop and doze. Cyclists passed. Then one shouted, swung round and insisted I rise and follow him. Mr Hummerstone again. He being a fellow who casts a considerable shadow, I found the effect of sitting on his wheel similar to that of the tandem. I was sucked along effortlessly to Dreux.

The last stage was littered with riders apparently on their last legs. An elegantly bearded chap leaned left on his bike and cycled in leftward semicircles, jerking his bike back to the right as the verge approached. Several times I observed the technique of three pedal-strokes out of the saddle, followed by as long a freewheel as possible whilst sitting on one buttock.  ‘Trying to freewheel uphill’, as Jim Hopper says.

After the man with the bell (I asked not for whom it tolled…) I found another French group going at a good pace and we worked together back to St Quentin.  Their local knowledge sped the way and suddenly we were at the roundabout with the crowds cheering and the ramp to the finish. It brought a tear to the eye.

A swipe of the card and the handing over of the brevet booklet, and that was it.


Sheila Simpson was leaving the food tent. Jim Hopper was dozing inside.  Andy Clarkson was beerily happy, and Bob Johnson was crowing about getting a fifteen minute time bonus for being able to speak English (it must have been a spot check or something).

At the campsite the mud had deepened. All the mowing tractors were busy – dragging bogged down vehicles to tarmac. I went for a beer.

Later that night we found another Italian restaurant where the service was worse but the food good. Mr Minter turned up and cracked an Australian joke about having been to Brest for some milk.

Saturday morning, very early but possibly not quite early enough, the Good Doctor and I set off back towards Le Havre. We were endeavouring to catch the afternoon ferry and, indeed, might just have made it but for an inopportune puncture. Our punishment was to find a good cheap hotel in the town centre, and a fine restaurant.

The following day, Sunday, a road race, the Tour of the Maritime Ports, and supporting events were taking place. We watched children as young as five riding twenty minute races, older siblings shouting encouragement, parents coaching and cheering. Then, with a bottle of white burgundy and moules marinieres, we watched the criterium from the main square.

Others were at the ferry when we arrived. Stue Lee had dragged his barrow round the event under the direction of Steve Underwood. The crossing was calm.

And that was that. We were back in the UK. Mr Lee helpfully escorted the Good Doctor and me to the right roundabout, whereupon the GD sped happily off down the wrong exit. Eventually we found our transport and were homeward bound.

I’m not going to do that again. Almost certainly not.

The Amnesiac Auk
Title: Re: Arrivée piece for PBP first timers
Post by: Phil W on April 26, 2019, 11:56:17 am
Was that their last PBP opr have they turned up since?
Title: Re: Arrivée piece for PBP first timers
Post by: Ian H on April 28, 2019, 10:50:21 pm
Was that their last PBP opr have they turned up since?

I believe they ride under a pseudonym nowadays.