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Title: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Deano on July 07, 2019, 09:56:24 pm
I reckon this ride needs to be resurrected (remove the stake, pour blood on the ashes, have a pig go past Castle Dracula playing a banjo onna Tuesday (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NIB1owd13g) etc..).

It's always been a lot of fun - start at York Station at midnight again? The route was always pretty much Stamford Bridge-Malton-Pickering-Saltergate Bank-Blue Bank and into Whitby with a group decision on whether to follow the main road from Staithes, or to nip along the Esk and over the harbour. I wonder whether it's worth adding a few more lanes to dodge Pickering, as it's not really worth going into town, and I recall a few people commenting that the route was a bit short at 50 miles or so.

The halfway stop has always been an issue - I'll be happy to fetch a stove and brew up some water, and I'm sure we'll have a few cakemakers along. Unless anyone knows any 24-hour services round Malton/Pickering (routing out to Seamer McDonald's would be a bit too much of a dog-leg).

From Whitby, you can get a train back to Middlesbrough fairly easily, or negotiate your way onto one of the tourist steam services which go back to Pickering, then ride to Malton for a train. The only gotcha with trains is that TPE now insist upon bike reservations, which have to be booked 24 hours in advance  but you can book up to 15 minutes in advance, if there's space (https://www.tpexpress.co.uk/travelling-with-us/travelling-with-a-bike), and this would affect services from Middlesbrough and Malton. From Boro, Grand Central Services to York are still very bike-friendly, though.

Anyone fancy it?

PS Forgot to say - fancy dress is not compulsory, but definitely encouraged. I believe only one rider actually dressed themselves, and it's mainly been homemade tat-on-a-bike. Or not-tat, in the case of Nikki's Trumps the Ghost (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=70801.msg1589451#msg1589451). Can she get the colour shift to co-ordinate with her GPS this year? There's only one way to find out.

ETA: this will be a social ride, probably taking 6-7 hours to get to Whitby, and I'll ask around for someone to act as Tail End Charlie (or do it myself), and we'll regroup at significant points.

EFTA: likely route here (https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30757854). I've re-routed through Thornton-le-Dale to keep it a bit lanier, and the finish is along the Esk and back over the swing bridge, though as usual we can re-group in Sleights to decide which way to take into Whitby (the main road is the sensible option if it's early, and then you get the howling descent into town).

Once we know who's coming, we can decide who's bringing stoves etc. There's a substantial bus shelter in Thornton-le-Dale which looks just the job, and about 47 km into the route, that's about the right distance.

In Whitby, we'll aim for the Singing Kettle, but the 'Spoons is just down the alley as a backup.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Deano on July 07, 2019, 09:59:42 pm
2016 ride: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=99029.0

2013: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=70801.0

2012: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=59136.0

2011: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=51743.msg1042830#msg1042830

2010 where it all started: http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=38025.0
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Kim on July 07, 2019, 10:03:34 pm
Traditionally that's the weekend of my annual chest infection, but I've put it in the calendar...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Karla on July 07, 2019, 10:11:10 pm
A lot of fun except the year you didn't turn up and we had a deluge and a gale.

I think TPE reservations can now be made at 10 minutes notice.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Deano on July 07, 2019, 10:19:18 pm
A lot of fun except the year you didn't turn up and we had a deluge and a gale.

I think TPE reservations can now be made at 10 minutes notice.

Damn, what a shame I missed that :D

Awesome about TPE - they have updated their website too: https://www.tpexpress.co.uk/travelling-with-us/travelling-with-a-bike
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Wowbagger on July 07, 2019, 10:26:19 pm
That is my dear wife's birthday. I wonder if she fancies celebrating in style?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Deano on July 07, 2019, 10:50:19 pm
That would be fabulous, Wow. I haven't seen you or Jan for yonks.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Graeme on July 08, 2019, 07:33:19 am
Friday night you say? Hmmm.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: perpetual dan on July 13, 2019, 08:19:59 pm
I quite like a bit of goth. Also Mrs And Misses Dan are going away that weekend. I need to work out whether I’m needed to help or better off out of the way :)
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: andyoxon on July 15, 2019, 02:52:57 pm
Interested, as potentially I could be in Scarbs and train to York, then cinder back to Scarbs.   OOI what is the weather 'generally' like?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Deano on July 15, 2019, 02:55:28 pm
I believe it was a Dark and Stormy Night in 2016...

(Otherwise, generally balmy with a stonking tailwind).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: phantasmagoriana on July 17, 2019, 04:25:00 pm
I can vouch for the extreme lack of tailwind in 2016. It's put me off attempting this ride again! :hand:

Arabella's write-up: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=99029.msg2099499#msg2099499

Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Chris S on July 17, 2019, 06:40:04 pm
I owe that ride a lot. It was one of the rides that cured me of my audax affliction.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Wowbagger on July 17, 2019, 06:51:26 pm
That would be fabulous, Wow. I haven't seen you or Jan for yonks.

I am afraid that my dear wife is far too sensible to do a night ride. However, I suppose I could give her a birthday treat of a long weekend in Whitby. I could do it and she could meet us for breakfast...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Gattopardo on July 17, 2019, 09:38:07 pm
How many miles is it?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Kim on July 17, 2019, 10:29:45 pm
How many miles is it?

Horizontally, or vertically?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Deano on July 17, 2019, 11:16:47 pm
50-55 miles, assuming the usual route (with minor variations).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Deano on July 17, 2019, 11:23:23 pm
I can vouch for the extreme lack of tailwind in 2016. It's put me off attempting this ride again! :hand:

Arabella's write-up: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=99029.msg2099499#msg2099499

Ah, I remember now - I rode the helpers ride' for my 200 on the Friday, and got snowed on somewhere on the route, and as it took two pints of Old Peculier at Masham to ruin revive me, I decided to bail out of the overnight ride.

But it's October this year and not November, remember.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Gattopardo on July 18, 2019, 05:08:21 pm
How many miles is it?

Horizontally, or vertically?

Is it that hilly?

50-55 miles, assuming the usual route (with minor variations).

Asked as I haven't ridden anything for ages and thought that it might something nice to look forward to as I haven't been to Whitby.

I can vouch for the extreme lack of tailwind in 2016. It's put me off attempting this ride again! :hand:

Arabella's write-up: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=99029.msg2099499#msg2099499

Ah, I remember now - I rode the helpers ride' for my 200 on the Friday, and got snowed on somewhere on the route, and as it took two pints of Old Peculier at Masham to ruin revive me, I decided to bail out of the overnight ride.

But it's October this year and not November, remember.

Your selling this to me.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Deano on August 05, 2019, 01:07:05 pm
Route and other info added to OP - https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30757854
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Graeme on August 10, 2019, 09:11:34 pm
I've popped a request in for the Saturday off work, I'd like to join all y'all.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Arminius on August 14, 2019, 03:46:15 pm
I'm interested in this too, other commitments permitting. I've put it in the diary.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Graeme on August 14, 2019, 03:54:25 pm
Yup - I'm off work on 26th, so could do a ride to the Goths - officially in my diary I've already started thinking about glowing bicycle decorations.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: markcjagar on August 14, 2019, 06:41:17 pm
Might join you for this, if that's okay?
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: andyoxon on August 14, 2019, 07:14:47 pm
Received an "are you mad?", when mentioning this ride...  ;)   But it looks like I can make it.  So that's a provisional, I'm in...   
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: Deano on August 31, 2019, 08:59:06 pm
Excellent, Andy.

And you'd be most welcome, Mark (and anyone else). It's a social ride. At worst, we'll regroup occasionally, and I'll get someone to play Tail End Charlie.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: andyoxon on September 01, 2019, 09:14:15 pm
Taken the plunge and bought a Scarbs-York rail ticket (£8), with bike reservn...
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: EllysH on September 18, 2019, 08:26:32 am

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Is it that hilly?

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The GPS route says about 800m of elevation, which isn't super hilly. Knowing the area though, there's probably a couple of steep climbs.
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 18, 2019, 08:56:55 am


Is it that hilly?

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The GPS route says about 800m of elevation, which isn't super hilly. Knowing the area though, there's probably a couple of steep climbs.
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There is one short steepish climb.
The rest are long gradual drags, best done in a low gear (with warm clothes, it is always much, much colder than you expect). The stops are exposed and you definitely need a couple of extra layers to pop on at those.

Downhills are steep because North York moors are weird that way (the northern slopes are steep and the southern slopes are gentle). Two of the downhills can't really be run full no-brakes; a turn with a humpback bridge right at the bottom of one and a very tight right-hander halfway down the other (although tadpole recumbents can get down this at over 50mph).
Title: Re: Friday Night Ride to the Goths - Friday 25/10/2019
Post by: EllysH on September 18, 2019, 05:00:10 pm


Is it that hilly?


The GPS route says about 800m of elevation, which isn't super hilly. Knowing the area though, there's probably a couple of steep climbs.
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There is one short steepish climb.
The rest are long gradual drags, best done in a low gear (with warm clothes, it is always much, much colder than you expect). The stops are exposed and you definitely need a couple of extra layers to pop on at those.

Downhills are steep because North York moors are weird that way (the northern slopes are steep and the southern slopes are gentle). Two of the downhills can't really be run full no-brakes; a turn with a humpback bridge right at the bottom of one and a very tight right-hander halfway down the other (although tadpole recumbents can get down this at over 50mph).
[/quote]Well.

I clearly don't know the area as well as I thought I did.

My autumn jacket is currently half unsewn, had best get that done.

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