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General Category => Audax => Topic started by: Martin on April 14, 2008, 09:07:43 am

Title: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 14, 2008, 09:07:43 am
There's still time to get the 5 rides required for the Brevet even if you've not done any yet; the next ride is the IOW 100km (just keep your certificate to claim)
and after that The Sceptre

Martin

(temporary GdS info further down this thread)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on April 14, 2008, 07:28:21 pm
Even if you miss those two you could still qualify by riding 5 out of the 6 August/September/October rides.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: frere yacker on April 15, 2008, 06:30:22 pm
The list in Martin's list suggests there are less than 6 qualifying events towards the end of the season?  Which ones are missing (these can be added at the wiki that martin uses rather than posted here, hint hint)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: frere yacker on April 15, 2008, 08:12:59 pm
The list in Martin's list suggests there are less than 6 qualifying events towards the end of the season? 

I count 6 August - October

Doh, so do I.  For some reason I blanked out August.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on September 11, 2008, 07:26:58 am
(if it hasn't been spam-bombed again  :-\)

It has.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Greenbank on September 11, 2008, 10:17:43 am
I've fixed it. (To do this, click on the history tab above the page and find the most recent version not full of spam links and click on the date link for that entry. Then edit that page, then click the "Save Page" button.)

Might be worth changing it so that only registered users can edit it as those spam bots will just keep on editing it and adding dodgy links.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: frere yacker on September 12, 2008, 12:32:35 pm
Has anyone heard whether Tim Wainwright is running the Battle and Back rides in 2009?  Nice grimpeur event that is left a hole in the range of events in the SE.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on September 12, 2008, 07:35:55 pm
Has anyone heard whether Tim Wainwright is running the Battle and Back rides in 2009?  Nice grimpeur event that is left a hole in the range of events in the SE.

It would be a pity if it didn't return.   
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: frere yacker on September 16, 2008, 08:44:11 am
Hoping to get my hands on that medal in 2009...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: frere yacker on November 16, 2008, 06:09:02 pm
The Battle and Back is likely to run.  Confirmation to follow after the AGM...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on November 17, 2008, 07:28:25 pm
The Battle and Back is likely to run.  Confirmation to follow after the AGM...

Hip Hip Hooray, Hip Hip Hooray.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 17, 2008, 08:16:58 pm
The Battle and Back is likely to run.  Confirmation to follow after the AGM...

Thinks; the 200 would be a good July RRTY but do I really want to do the Grimpeur? especially a week before the Ide Hill one?  :'(
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: frere yacker on November 17, 2008, 08:22:52 pm
The Battle and Back is likely to run.  Confirmation to follow after the AGM...

Thinks; the 200 would be a good July RRTY but do I really want to do the Grimpeur? especially a week before the Ide Hill one?  :'(

You know you want to  ;)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: frere yacker on November 24, 2008, 02:14:25 pm
Just a quick confirmation that Battle and Back 200 (Grimpeur) will run in early July 2009.  Date to be confirmed but weekend on 11/12 is pencilled in.

Further details will follow, my pretties.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: frere yacker on November 24, 2008, 04:30:51 pm
BR are rides of 200km or more (with usual bits about speeds etc)

170km<200km so has to be a BP.  Or am I misunderstanding the ???
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: frere yacker on December 07, 2008, 09:08:37 am
Alas, having received details of Battle and Back from the previous organiser, it is clear that it will be a significant amount of work to make the grimpeur route compliant with the stricter AUK distance requirements.  As a result this event will not run in 2009.

I am, however, planning another 200km ride (with a 100km and 50km ride running parallel, and possibly an off road route as well).  The road rides may or may not qualify for AAA points, but they won't be flat...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: frere yacker on December 07, 2008, 05:35:57 pm
is the 150k B and B running? (that was worth a smidgen of an AAA IIRC without any obvious shortcuts possible)

Not on my watch.  In anycase, probably a bit too close to Pat's event in both distance and date to put on in isolation.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on December 07, 2008, 06:10:02 pm
Alas, having received details of Battle and Back from the previous organiser, it is clear that it will be a significant amount of work to make the grimpeur route compliant with the stricter AUK distance requirements.  As a result this event will not run in 2009.


That's a real shame.

I rode 5 B&B 200 Grimpeurs between 2003 & 2007 (it was my first 200 grimpeur) and it was always an event I'd look forward to. Being cooked in the hot July sun, spotting Mad Jacks obelisk high up ahead at Brightling and those final climbs of Bayleys and Star Hill.  A classic ride.       
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on December 07, 2008, 09:37:18 pm
is the 150k B and B running? (that was worth a smidgen of an AAA IIRC without any obvious shortcuts possible)

Not on my watch.  In anycase, probably a bit too close to Pat's event in both distance and date to put on in isolation.

sorry; crossed porpoises; I thought it was just the 200 Grimpeur that was scrubbed and the 150/200 Sporting would still run;

So did the 200 Grimpeur go up Bayleys Hill instead of Ide Hill? (only ever ridden the old 160; 200 Sporting and 150)

Yes, but it climbed Ide Hill on the way south.   
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: frere yacker on December 07, 2008, 09:50:28 pm
is the 150k B and B running? (that was worth a smidgen of an AAA IIRC without any obvious shortcuts possible)

Not on my watch.  In anycase, probably a bit too close to Pat's event in both distance and date to put on in isolation.

sorry; crossed porpoises; I thought it was just the 200 Grimpeur that was scrubbed and the 150/200 Sporting would still run;

So did the 200 Grimpeur go up Bayleys Hill instead of Ide Hill? (only ever ridden the old 160; 200 Sporting and 150)

Yes, but it climbed Ide Hill on the way south.   

My alternative 200 is likely to take riders over that way.  Current thinking is out from Merstham, up onto the ridge, along to Biggins Hill, down to Ashdown Forest, back north via Turners Hill, over to Cranleigh, through the Surrey Hills up to Ranmore Common, over Box Hill and then back to Merstham.  A very nice route...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on August 19, 2009, 10:09:47 am
Nearest AAA perms to London? There's a perm version of the Cotswold Corker which must be the nearest. Apart from than that it's South Wales, the Peak District or West Country, with the Blackdown Grimpeur from Ilminster probably the nearest. 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on October 28, 2009, 07:34:43 pm
No doubt Tour of the Hills will be back again next year.

I may run a modified (and moderated) version of The Sceptre in July if all goes well.

Pity about the Faccombe rides as they were always popular and good scenic traffic free routes.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on October 28, 2009, 08:19:09 pm
I am planning a 200km ride in September that might have AAA points.  Memory map is suggesting climbing of just over 3200m, which would give it 3.25AAA.

Although I suspect the actual climbing will be less - won't know until I do the contour count and get it signed off by the AAA Man.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Fixedwheelnut on October 28, 2009, 10:09:02 pm
 Next year the Invicta Grimpeur needs a new organiser, I have told the DA I am only organising the 400 and 600 next year so hopefully someone will step forward at the General meeting next month.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on December 03, 2009, 11:07:51 pm
My 200km calendar event on 19 September will have AAA points.  Based on the route submitted, the AAA man has said it will be worth 3.25 AAA points.  Route is Redhill - Burwash Common - Battle - Wittersham - Goudhurst - Yalding - Eynsford - Redhill.  Manotea can attest that it is "challenging".

Martin - presumably it isn't too late to add this ride to the G.du.S?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Fixedwheelnut on December 03, 2009, 11:28:34 pm
Just to let you all know, John Warren has taken over the West Kent Invicta Grimpeur and the DA have changed the date to the weekend after the 14th of March 2010  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 04, 2009, 12:16:36 am
Martin - presumably it isn't too late to add this ride to the G.du.S?

no not at all; even if an event isn't listed for some omission by myself it's still eligible as long as it makes the grade  :) there is no cutoff date
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on December 04, 2009, 01:42:25 pm
Martin - presumably it isn't too late to add this ride to the G.du.S?

no not at all; even if an event isn't listed for some omission by myself it's still eligible as long as it makes the grade  :) there is no cutoff date

Excellent.  When the AAA points are formally added to the calendar listing, I'll let you know in order that you can update the egcc web page etc.

I will be adding a 100km event in 2011.  I also have my eyes on laying down the challenge of an early summer 300km event that takes riders on a tour of the HIGHlights of the North Downs, Surrey Hills, Ashdown ridge and South Downs.  Work in progress...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Greenbank on December 04, 2009, 10:17:03 pm
Hilly 100s on a lightweight geared bike is what I are be mostly riding next year. Proximity to the Sud makes this all the more easier.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on December 05, 2009, 03:27:01 pm
Am going to bag this series in 2010.  Entry for Andy Seviour's events (Mad Jack + Hills&Mills) were sent this morning.  I've also got my eye on the Invikta 100 to break the back of the series before the clocks go forward  :)

Anyone else plotting their first series?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 21, 2010, 09:21:36 pm
once again the hall is overbooked so it's back to Sat 23rd October for the Mid SusseX Hilly and Hillier
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Anton on January 22, 2010, 02:36:32 pm
Oh does that mean it will be nice and sunny the week before when route checking, but a downpour on the day. Or was that only a one off for 2009?

The offer of helping out again is still there for either saturday

AJB
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 22, 2010, 04:24:15 pm
Oh does that mean it will be nice and sunny the week before when route checking, but a downpour on the day. Or was that only a one off for 2009?

hopefully not and we'll get the soaking on the 16th  ;)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Pete Mas on February 18, 2010, 01:08:45 pm
Anyone else aiming to ride Mad Jack's -John Seviour Memorial 120Km this Sat 0900 from Hailsham?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: dougal on February 18, 2010, 06:34:25 pm
Anyone else aiming to ride Mad Jack's -John Seviour Memorial 120Km this Sat 0900 from Hailsham?

I'm counting on being there as this is one of my all time faves
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Pete Mas on February 19, 2010, 11:15:18 am
See you guys there:-I'll be the one on a Focus carbon bike with a triple chainset. Wearing Specialised Helmet.
Never done this ride before - looking forward to it, and seeing El Supremo again. Weather forecast is reasonable. :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on February 19, 2010, 12:07:05 pm
I'll be the one pushing their bike up some of the steeper hills...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Pete Mas on February 20, 2010, 11:49:13 pm
Hope you all got round safely! The icy roads meant that quite a lot of walking was done in the first few hours...lovely bright day, though. Nicely organised ride and great catering , as usual, from El Supremo.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on May 09, 2010, 09:39:21 am
For those who are interested in what a 200km grimpeur in the South East looks like, a tracklog of my "William the Conkerer" event (that will be run in September) has been uploaded to my audax website

Direct link - click here (http://sites.google.com/site/randonneuruk/calendar-events/william-the-conkerer)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Manotea on May 09, 2010, 10:20:12 am
next year's qualifying rides are now up

http://www.egcc.net/display-items.asp?intTypeID=90&intItemID=417

NB anyone thinking of using the 1066 as a qualifier; it isn't. It's been given the South Coast Sportive details in error (but it's still not flat although being an El S ride you probably knew that), the April South Coast Super Sportive will become a qualifier once the AAA's are decided. The old favourites Faccombe Haul and TotH are yet to appear in the calendar.

Could this link appear on the AUK website somewhere?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on May 09, 2010, 03:33:13 pm
Draft route sheet also uploaded....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 09, 2010, 08:42:43 pm
For those who are interested in what a 200km grimpeur in the South East looks like, a tracklog of my "William the Conkerer" event (that will be run in September) has been uploaded to my audax website

cruel man; that's going to be my hardest ride of the year (punishment for dreaming up the GdS idea)


http://www.egcc.net/display-items.asp?intTypeID=90&intItemID=417

Could this link appear on the AUK website somewhere?

it is; it's under UK clubs ( ??? nearest I could find) on the Links page

I'm also pleased to announce that the Isle of Wight 100km Round the Island ride (done either as a permanant or on the day of the May Randonnee) is now permanently eligible for the GdS and also 1.5AAA as many times as you like provided it is submitted as an AUK DIY perm by gpx.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on May 09, 2010, 09:03:59 pm
cruel man; that's going to be my hardest ride of the year (punishment for dreaming up the GdS idea)

Not as cruel as it could have been.  I've tamed down the Battle-Wittersham section from the version Manotea and I did in November, which was itself tamed down from a version I did previously.

If you look on a map around Seddlescombe/Brede/Peasmarsh you'll see what could have been.  On balance, I thought that the choppy first third and downright hilly last third meant gratuitous hills in the middle third was potentially a bit unfair.

It might, however, make an appearance in the final route given there is very little difference in horizontal distance...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: dougal on May 10, 2010, 01:06:32 pm
mmm...

interesting
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on May 10, 2010, 06:57:33 pm
Rider notes and map of start location uploaded.  That's my admin stuff done until August/September  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on June 14, 2010, 09:52:54 pm
North of Watford counts as the south  :-X

PS: I hope you mean 200m not 200km short.  I don't fancy a ride with over 2000 AAA points...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 14, 2010, 09:56:08 pm
North of Watford counts as the south  :-X

it's in the GdS zone (the northern counties just didn't look so distinctive on the map on the medal); which originally was devised to include the Hilly Chilterns, and of course could include anything from Chalfont St Peter

Paging Manotea


(http://www.fotothing.com/photos/9a8/9a8245c05fd589ebf623fc81ed5699e3.jpg)

we changed the borders to accomodate Hampshire and the IOW when we lost a few of the long standing events in the original counties, and they are now set in stone, as is the 100km rule (the GdS is actually a regional AAA Brevet 500)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on August 01, 2010, 07:09:53 pm
I'll be submitting a 100km permanent in the very near future.  106km, 1.75 AAA.  Called "Down to Downs"

Edenbridge - Toys Hill - Green St Green - Ide Hill - Langton Green - Uckfield - Edenbridge.

I test rode it this weekend to cobble together a routesheet and for the risk assesment *yawn*.  My legs confirm it is hilly (but with the reward of some fine views from the North Downs and the Ashdown Ridge).  Easy navigation.

gpx is on my website and a routesheet will be uploaded when I convert the text document into word (and a pdf).  Entry will be £3 and I expect it will be available from early September.

I also have a hilly 50 (56km, 1AAA) but it isn't eligible for the Grimpeur du Sud award.  Might interest south east based AARRTY'ers though.  Website has details.  This is accepting entries now (starts in either Dorking or Cranleigh).

Am in discussions about a 200km permanent.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on August 22, 2010, 09:52:33 am
The 100km 1.75 AAA rated ride for South East based randonneurs is officially available.  It's called "Down to Downs" and offers potential starts in Edenbridge, Uckfield or Green Street Green.

The 1 AAA rated 50km ride (Surrey Hill) is now also up on the Audax UK website (but isn't eligible for the GdS award but is for the AAARTY).

Now to try and put in place a 200km hilly permanent....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Manotea on August 24, 2010, 01:51:52 pm
to clarify the position with regard to DIYs and perms for the GdS;

I don't think we can apply any sort of limit realistically on how many DIY AAA perms are eligible for the GdS because it's an AUK Brevet award like any other and there is no such restriction on any other awards,

Is it? I thought it was an independently managed award scheme recognised by the AUK in much the same way the RRTY is, and as such you have some scope to develop* the GDS rules to allow for changing circumstance, for example, to limit the number of perms that might be included in the award.

*Ref: Dec'09 being snowed off for RRTY purposes.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 24, 2010, 03:21:18 pm
to clarify the position with regard to DIYs and perms for the GdS;

I don't think we can apply any sort of limit realistically on how many DIY AAA perms are eligible for the GdS because it's an AUK Brevet award like any other and there is no such restriction on any other awards,

Is it? I thought it was an independently managed award scheme recognised by the AUK in much the same way the RRTY is, and as such you have some scope to develop* the GDS rules to allow for changing circumstance, for example, to limit the number of perms that might be included in the award.

*Ref: Dec'09 being snowed off for RRTY purposes.

well yes it sort of is independent; but as no other AUK awards require riding calendar events it might be seen as unfair and PatC and I might have to declare our interests in The House

However I might frown at someone doing 5 DIY's that follow the routes of existing calendar events; especially if the rider doesn't ride the latter;

or else charge a little more for a medal  ;)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on August 24, 2010, 03:33:18 pm
Alas, it is the curse of the internet that any publicly declaration attracts comment...

Funnily enough, logistically, getting the GdS has been one of the most difficult awards to bag, which made it all the more desirable.  I will, however, claim that pin later this year  :)

I personally (uh-oh, curse of the internet strikes) think allowing GPS DIYs to count towards the GdS somehow lessens the award.  There is something noble about having a limited number of events to choose from and being forced to plan around them.  A GdSRTY on the other hand...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 24, 2010, 03:37:07 pm
Alas, it is the curse of the internet that any publicly declaration attracts comment...

Funnily enough, logistically, getting the GdS has been one of the most difficult awards to bag, which made it all the more desirable.  I will, however, claim that pin later this year  :)

I personally (uh-oh, curse of the internet strikes) think allowing GPS with DIYs to count towards the GdS cheapens the award.  There is something noble about having a limited number of events to choose from and being forced to plan around them.  A GdSRTY on the other hand...

I doubt it will have much effect; the rules put up last year did allow "any perm anybody wants to devise" as being eligible, this includes DIY's

I have at least 2 potential takers for a GdSRTY as a means of AAARTY as they are not motorised
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 28, 2010, 04:51:56 pm
Just rode FY's new Down to Downs perm (1.75AAA 106km) using the suggested start of Edenbridge.

A lovely ride, hard as expected. Toy's Hill was an early shock to the system, and after the long descent into Brasted there's a new one for me on the other side of the A25. A typo on the route sheet in Brasted had me scratching head but soon I saw a massive hill looming ahead (probably the steepest on the ride) so knew I was on track. Much like the Ide Hill Grimpeur you Descend Descend Descend from the top and eventually pop out on the A21 at Green Street Green where the petrol station gets a 5* for Tchibo Cappucino and Star Bars  :P

You then go along the A21 for a bit (found out there is a parallel cycle path) before a drag back up to Knockholt where you drop down to the M25 on what I assume is the last hill back up on the Hell of the Ashdown. A new road for me up from Sundridge to Ide Hill for an info. You drop down the Beast (all the descents are on well surfaced single carriageway roads which make this an ideal winter ride) and wiggle through past Bough Beech reservoir before some moderate lumpy stuff and eventually the petrol station at Langton Green just outside Tunbridge Wells.

From there it's a scoot down into Groombridge and the lovely drag up though Friar's Gate; Ashdown Forest makes you work for the views as they take a while to appear but are well worth it (the South Downs from one direction and the North Downs coming back). At the top is the long descent to Maresfield where I used the alternative route through Underhill; not sure if this will become a permanent detour though.

Plenty of choice for food in Uckfield (I sat on a bench outside Tesco) before a reverse back up to the top of the Forest and back down to Hartfield (where I saw a couple of Japanese Pooh fans walking up the path-less main road to Gills Lap  :o) before the fairly gentle and steady climb back up to Stick Hill and eventually the final and welcome whizz back down to Edenbridge. Very nice to do it this way as the climbing gets shallower as you go round the route.

so I now have a spare GdS in case anything goes wrong with the last 3
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on August 29, 2010, 04:43:40 pm
A lovely ride
long descent
you drop down
You drop down
all the descents are on well surfaced single carriageway roads which make this an ideal winter ride
the views
the long descent to Maresfield
the final and welcome whizz back down to Edenbridge
I noted the above phrases - they fired me with enthusiasm! and have sent off my three quid.  :thumbsup: I'm looking forward to having a go at it. What's more, it's local.
Er, I'm sure that having been described in such glowing terms, this cannot possibly turn into a sort of "El's Perm"-type experience, with endless hills and suchlike.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 30, 2010, 12:02:39 pm
Bikely route here; I've shown both ways into Uckfield; the Nursery Lane route might get a bit skoggy TM  in winter so you can choose either

Bicycle Path - Down to Downs at Bikely.com (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/Down-to-Downs)

wish I'd thought of this ride, it would be called the AAA Milne
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on September 01, 2010, 05:42:37 pm
I'm going to make that diversion to Uckfield the default instructions in the routesheet.  I much prefer the thought of entrants bypassing the roundabout with the A22.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on September 13, 2010, 02:36:25 pm
I'm looking forward to having a go at it. What's more, it's local.
Had a go at it on Saturday, and can recommend it as a route. Good surfaces virtually all the way round, only a few hundred yards of smallish potholes. Plenty of food opportunities en route. It strikes me as an ideal shorter hardish route to do in the winter when you won't want to be out in bad weather for a long time. A rather clever use of the hills around - there was some traffic but not really too much. And as an added bonus there are some really rather super descents that went on for simply ages - but of course, all descents must be bought or paid for.
I started in Langton Green and went north to Green St Green and then southwards to Edenbridge and beyond. (I stopped at my cousin's to refill water bottles but that may not be an option for others.)
The best thing about the day was the sheer hilarity of how long we took to completely bodge a puncture my companion - who shall remain nameless - incurred.
Lessons learnt include:
It also rained almost all day. I felt as if i was living a "how not to do a perm" article for Arivee.
But the route itself was a cracker. I'll definitely do it again. The difference next time is that I'll do it inside the Audax specified time, rather than longer.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on September 19, 2010, 07:56:19 pm
 :smug:

Sitting around waiting for riders to arrive in Yalding gave me a chance to think about a 200km route that could be hilly enough, without infos, to be a 200km AAA permanent in the South East.  I've struggled with this for a wee while, continually coming up short, either in height or distance, or not being able to balance hilly with attractive route.

But.  Well I've only gone and done it.  Subject to the usual checking, agreement of the AAA man, tweaking on route check etc. the final piece in my hilly SE series may be available from Spring next year.

Outline is:

Waldingham
Edenbridge
Green Street Green
Langton Green
Wadhurst
Battle
Crowborough
Uckfield
Lingfield
Waldingham

Bikehike + altitude checking program suggests 207km with 3,340m of climbing (hence the optimism).

*crosses fingers*

PS: If it works, variants on this and my Down to Downs will be put on as calendar events next year.  In lieu of William the Conkerer which is a nice route, but not the hilly 200 the south east deserves.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on September 20, 2010, 08:11:52 am
....and I've now got a 300 up my sleeve as well, which links the route below with a variant on my Surrey Hills 50, which looks like giving 4250m of climb.  Below controls plus: Warlingham, Cranleigh, Cobham, Dorking, Warlingham.  Slightly over distance at 325km, but tweakable.

Can I get a 400 and 600 for the full hilly SE SR? (I've got an inkling, taking the route variously to the South Downs and over by Dover).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on September 20, 2010, 10:45:31 am
my Down to Downs will be put on as calendar events next year.  
This is a super route and I'd recommend it.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 20, 2010, 12:40:29 pm
PS: If it works, variants on this and my Down to Downs will be put on as calendar events next year.  In lieu of William the Conkerer which is a nice route, but not the hilly 200 the south east deserves.

excellent  :thumbsup:
(checks GdS calendar) Apr and July are currently Sans Grimpe

BTW; well done FY on your first GdS; polishing a medal as I type
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on September 20, 2010, 12:51:12 pm
my Down to Downs will be put on as calendar events next year.  
This is a super route and I'd recommend it.

Thanks.  It will be made a little bit easier in future, as I realised that the info control over Toys Hill is not needed (the shortest route between Green St Green and Langton Green goes via Toys Hill and Beech Bough in any case)....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on September 26, 2010, 05:32:37 pm
Hengist Hills today.  A grimp in the true South East tradition:

steep climbs - tick
steep descents - tick
grottty lanes - tick

A rather clever route though; three loops all centred on the HQ in Bredgar.  Each loop had at least one long, steady climb and several punchy shorter ones.  Generally linked by a fast, flat dash along ridges or valleys.  Familiar territory from some of Dave Hudson's permanents (Medway Meander in particular).  It was also a nice time of the year to be riding - cool, with the trees turning and the fields freshly ploughed.  I'll ignore the nagging headwind and the occasional flash of precipitation.

Good organisation, evidenced by a perfect route sheet (well, at least I didn't get lost without a GPS) and a fine bowl of veggie chilli at the end  :thumbsup:

yACF'ers of a southern plume were in evidence.  As was the fairy (of the puncture kind, not the San Fairy kind, although he also made an appearance).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on September 26, 2010, 08:14:17 pm
Good organisation, evidenced by a perfect route sheet (well, at least I didn't get lost without a GPS) and a fine bowl of veggie chilli at the end  :thumbsup:
This was my 3rd Tim Ford event and each time there was good, homemade food. Highly recommended!
Yes, route sheet was perfect, but I still managed to take a wrong turn.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PaulOlmo on September 26, 2010, 09:03:08 pm

Yes, we were delayed by Andy W's visit from the PF. Got hit by the rain on the final run in to base, but a pleasant day considering the weather.

First (of many) puddings from Bramley apples now consumed - thanks Tim.

Oh, yes and my 2nd GdS now complete!


Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Cyklisten on September 26, 2010, 09:09:24 pm
... fairy of the San Fairy (Ann) kind ... made an appearance.
That'll be me, then!

My second go at this one and likely not the last. I was cleverly (!) slow enough to miss the rain in the Charing Heath area but got caught on the last hill. Splendid ride with the usual suspects - very enjoyable! Many thanks to the Fords  :thumbsup:

edit: that'll be GdS X 4  :smug:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 26, 2010, 10:44:44 pm
edit: that'll be GdS X 4  :smug:

ditto  :)

there will hopefully be a bit of free bling for all the x5's from 2011; watch this space (and Ann wants a gold medal for 10 rides; yellow headlamp lacquer anyone?)

a great ride from Tim as always; seems he got the same weather for the last third (or at least slowcoaches like me did) as last year's MSH; one of those days when you knew it was no passing shower. Rode with Jeremy and Ann the SWRC massive and feeling desperately unfit, am climbing like a Dutchman this year. A late start followed by a fairy visit at the end of the first loop meant an almost empty hall for us for the rest of the day. Saw AJB who decided to pack after round#1 having spent some time in the bushes looking for Rolf and Hughie Blair (think about it).

Tim's thinking about making it a 2 lap July 200 next year a la Invicta Grimpeur (think I'm having a haircut that day) as well as a replacement for the Kent Corners.

Thanks Lise for the photos  :)  after passing her the 1st time we ignored the route sheet and ended up looking like we would end up back at base having ignored the little number in Hucking so had to retrace out of honesty
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on September 26, 2010, 10:57:22 pm
Hmmm, I'm not sure that a double Hengist would make a particularly nice 200.  3 loops around Bredgar was about enough for me.  Doubling that would be a bit tedious (in my opinion).

A longer loop east (towards Vigo/Eynsford) or west to Canterbury/Hythe might make a more interesting route, albeit challenging to get the climb required to make it AAA, if that's the intention.  Then again, my knowledge of hills in the South East is more extensive to the west of Sevenoaks rather than to the east.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on September 27, 2010, 07:47:29 am
Tim Wainwright's Battle and Back had a 150 grimpeur alongside a 200 grimpeur IIRC.  The more I try and figure how best to put on a longer Surrey/Sussex grimpeur rides, the more I realise that Tim had pretty much come up with the optimum solutions in his rides.

PS: I've finalised my GdS events for 2011.
25/4: Down to Downs (AAA TBC, pending test ride, but likely to be 2AAA)
17/9: A 200km ride (substantially changed compared to 2010, so will have a new name.  There will be more Ashdown action.  Likely to be 3.25AAA)

The 200 will be available as a permanent (it can be done without infos) along with a 300km AAA permanent (I need to put together a formal routesheet for both before submitting to John though, so I expect both won't appear before April/May 2011 as I'll construct these in "stages" over the winter).

I may run the previous route of William the Conkerer as a late spring ride in future years, removing some hills so no longer AAA (the general consensus was that it was a nice route, so would be a shame to obliterate it).  The name will change though as conkers are autumnal.  Will need to figure out a Battle based name with a bit of wit suitable for Spring...

I'm unlikely to realise my hopes of a full GdS SR series, at least as a permanent series, due to the number of controls needed (the 300 has 9, which I think is the most I want to require on a ride).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 28, 2010, 09:31:20 pm
I see the South Park 100 is running again in January a la old Sussex Winter Corker;

think I'm washing the cat that day...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Weirdy Biker on September 28, 2010, 09:51:29 pm
And I'm hibernating!

The Jan/Feb rides in my 2010 AARTY were the toughest so far, regardless of distance.  Partly due to fitness, partly weather and partly that the bike is just so much heavier (clothing, equipment/tyres and me!)

I don't think I'll be doing any grimpeur events once I bag my December ride, only picking up the pace again in March/April when I'll be testing my Easter calendar event.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 28, 2010, 09:57:22 pm
There will be a (virtual) GdSRTY for anyone who wants to fill in the gaps in the calendar with Down to Downs or GPS DIYs; assuming it includes 10 rides in the same season this will also be a Grimpeur d'Or (medal available cost £100; that's what a minimum run in gold metal will cost)

and I've just received details of a possible Essex based qualifier  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on September 29, 2010, 09:57:02 am
medal available cost £100; that's what a minimum run in gold metal will cost
I'd be happy with a plastic one painted yellow. but i'm as tight as a gnat's chuff.  :facepalm:

on a more serious note, a series of 100k hilly rides to go at through the year would suit me down to the ground - not too long to be out on the bike on horrid weather, with enough hills to get the legs fit, something tangible to aim for. i'd be quite keen on that. O:-)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 29, 2010, 08:48:35 pm
on a more serious note, a series of 100k hilly rides to go at through the year would suit me down to the ground - not too long to be out on the bike on horrid weather, with enough hills to get the legs fit, something tangible to aim for. i'd be quite keen on that. O:-)

There are gpx files publicly available for many of the calendar GdS events; all of which would be GdS eligible as a DIY by GPS, I'm happy for mine to be used but not sure about the other orgs.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on September 30, 2010, 10:03:12 am
There are gpx files publicly available for many of the calendar GdS events; all of which would be GdS eligible as a DIY by GPS, I'm happy for mine to be used but not sure about the other orgs.
That's fantastic. I had no idea. This means I can have a go at them at short notice if I can wangle a day off work and the weather is good. All i need to do now is replace my old GPS I sold for £20 cos it was an old entry-level Etrex.  :smug:
Am thinking of the top range Etrex - any comments?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 30, 2010, 10:27:58 am
There are gpx files publicly available for many of the calendar GdS events; all of which would be GdS eligible as a DIY by GPS, I'm happy for mine to be used but not sure about the other orgs.
That's fantastic. I had no idea. This means I can have a go at them at short notice if I can wangle a day off work and the weather is good. All i need to do now is replace my old GPS I sold for £20 cos it was an old entry-level Etrex.  :smug:
Am thinking of the top range Etrex - any comments?

See the GPS section; I believe the new model Garmins are not so good for creating an Audax type route and following it. I have a Vista HcX which is perfect for the job.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on September 30, 2010, 02:24:11 pm
See the GPS section;
I have a Vista HcX which is perfect for the job.
great - done that, read the comments, will buy one - looks like they can be had for about £130. Very many thanks - a personal recommendation is worth more than a hundred online reviews.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 13, 2010, 06:01:48 pm
Just checked out Billy Weir's new perm the AAA Milne as a DIY by GPS (109km; 1900m climb, goes up Ashdown Forest 3 times- The Wall- Friars Gate then Duddleswell and it's in the shape of two Pooh balloons on a string)

I took my own suggestion of going via Eridge station to Langton Green; much nicer than the A26 (you have to go along it for a couple of 100m) but then it goes via the car park and a short cycle path to avoid the rest. Pooh's RH balloon looking a bit deflated now.
 
Bastard hard ride but fantastic views twice from the Forest, although no worse than Down to Downs. Speaking of which I rode from just after Gills Lap to Edenbridge with Mike Plumstead who was riding D2D from home just for the fun of it (D2D for no points; fun?). I went out via Underhill and back via the main road so I could use the jet wash at Marsefield (lots of skog around Mayfield Eridge and in Nursery lane but fine after that)

A couple of Japanese Kamikaze tourists in evidence walking from Hartfield up the main forest road to Gills Lap at dusk  :o (the Japs are Pooh bonkers)

Nice to kick off my 2011 GdS with this one, probably the earliest ever qualifying ride.
 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on November 13, 2010, 08:16:17 pm
Good to read that the AAA Milne lives up to the name.  I will be pulling together the routesheet and submitting the ride to "the powers that be" in the next month or so.  Should be available generally from the New Year.

The 1,900m climb figure is slightly more than I would expect.  I'll do a contour count as part of the submission, as I don't personally trust the climb figures that come out of GPS units, which appear to overstate climbing in the South East by 10% or so.

Now that one is out of my system, I can turn to plotting my 200km and 300km permanents.  The outlines are there (respectively at least 3 and 4.5AAA, possibly more).  I've a choice of routes for each (variations on a theme) so now just need to decide whether to be twisted or evil.  I want the 300 to be the definitive grimpeur event in the South East, which to me means taking in half a dozen of the "classic" climbs of the area (White Lane, Leith Hill, Box Hill, Yorks Hill/Ide Hill, the Wall, White Down, Toys Hill).  I am so close to getting these into a nice route, albeit currently at 315km and goes down rather than up the Wall.  So, so, tantalisingly close.  I'm genuinely looking forward to making it happen.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on November 22, 2010, 06:24:41 pm
I'm hoping to submit AAA Milne for approval later this week.

Together with another one that I've labelled "Up N Downs".

What else could the route do but go up the North Downs a handful of times to give noticably more than 2000m of climb in 135km.  Usual drill: Warlingham, Edenbridge, Green Street, Langton Green, Eynsford, Warlingham.  I plan to be the first to ride it this time *smirk*

The 200 will stitch Up N Downs and AAA Milne together.  The 300 will weave in the Surrey Hills.  And that, my grimp seeking fellow travellers, will exhaust the hills around my patch.

Thus will my "'Round Weald Permanent Series" be completed.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 22, 2010, 07:15:30 pm
Billy; you may have competition, I've had an enquiry from a rider wanting to make their own Surrey Hills perm, but it would involve multiple infos and loops.

I suggested buy a GPS  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on November 22, 2010, 07:43:42 pm
Iquote author=Billy Weir link=topic=1254.msg772220#msg772220 date=1289679377]

The outlines are there (respectively at least 3 and 4.5AAA, possibly more).  I've a choice of routes for each (variations on a theme) so now just need to decide whether to be twisted or evil.  I want the 300 to be the definitive grimpeur event in the South East, which to me means taking in half a dozen of the "classic" climbs of the area (White Lane, Leith Hill, Box Hill, Yorks Hill/Ide Hill, the Wall, White Down, Toys Hill).  I am so close to getting these into a nice route, albeit currently at 315km and goes down rather than up the Wall.  So, so, tantalisingly close.  I'm genuinely looking forward to making it happen.

Great stuff, Make it a Calendar event, could be the South East answer to the Hard Boiled 300km..  :o

The Wall is not too hard, you can get into a rhythm as it goes up in three stages.- Hills and Mills.

Peter James Lane on Mad Jack's is a tough col, along with Doleham Halt- they get the blood pumping!!
 MJ
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 22, 2010, 07:56:08 pm
Billy; can you put your 3 rides on the same page once they are up and running so I can do a link off my GdS page?  :)

MJ; shame you missed the ESCA RT yesterday, run by In Gear but presumably an old Chas Robson course out to Tidebrook Snape and then over Brightling, only missed AAA by 80m over the 86km. 169 riders too. And pretty tough at 23.1 kph average.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mattc on November 22, 2010, 07:56:54 pm
 I want the 300 to be the definitive grimpeur event in the South East, which to me means taking in half a dozen of the "classic" climbs of the area (White Lane, Leith Hill, Box Hill, Yorks Hill/Ide Hill, the Wall, White Down, Toys Hill).  I am so close to getting these into a nice route, albeit currently at 315km and goes down rather than up the Wall.  So, so, tantalisingly close.  I'm genuinely looking forward to making it happen.
Box Hill? Perhaps Cycling Weekly would be interested?

Crikey, I seem to have run out of Single Malt ...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on November 22, 2010, 08:12:54 pm
MJ; shame you missed the ESCA RT yesterday, run by In Gear but presumably an old Chas Robson course out to Tidebrook Snape and then over Brightling, only missed AAA by 80m over the 86km. 169 riders too.

Hi Zoom; Nearly entered it, missed the entry (avoided it) Not a fan of the A271.
Snap Lane was on the Robertsbridge Rollercoaster 200km I think, many moons ago!
Hills and Mills original route, went that way but made it 135km thus loosing AAA's.

Not sure how they stopped riders nailing it up the A22 avoiding Upper Ricker, Ripe etc? 

169 a great number for a Reliability trial, sort of Numbers we need for AUK events down here!

MJ
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 22, 2010, 08:19:45 pm

Not sure how they stopped riders nailing it up the A22 avoiding Upper Ricker, Ripe etc?  

err they didn't; the last checkpoint was just off the A22 you could have gone R down Camberlot Rd and straight back (a few did but we saw most of the field on the official route)

yes of those 169 riders maybe 10 or 12 were AUK regulars from the Rovers; Wanderers and the Grinny :-\
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on November 22, 2010, 08:31:39 pm
yes of those 169 riders maybe 10 or 12 were AUK regulars from the Rovers; Wanderers and the Grinny :-\

Did the Lewes bag the event.. any one get around in 3hr15!! - No room for error.

Noticed on the route sheet-Refreshments will NOT be provided at the Checkpoints!!  :-[

MJ
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 22, 2010, 08:40:02 pm
yes of those 169 riders maybe 10 or 12 were AUK regulars from the Rovers; Wanderers and the Grinny :-\

Did the Lewes bag the event.. any one get around in 3hr15!! - No room for error.

Noticed on the route sheet-Refreshments will NOT be provided at the Checkpoints!!  :-[

yes Lewes won according to their forum; not sure who got round in 3.15; I got round in 3.43 (had selected 4.15 so killed time in the pub) but that was with no punctures

odd, when I organised it back in 2005 it was a dead heat with the Rovers (although I think LWCC were already the holders back then. In Gear managed a big field but not enough to unseat the champs; despite apparently signing up anyone who happened to walk into the shop over the last few weeks)

no no food anywhere; a cup of tea at the start that was it...

a far cry from 2009 2008 and 2006 when El S manned the half way and finish  :P
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Grandad on November 22, 2010, 09:09:35 pm
Quote
169 a great number for a Reliability trial, sort of Numbers we need for AUK events down here!


Are reliability trials becoming more popular?  Total entries for the 3 distances of the KCA one in October and last year were both over 300. (Boosted by 90+ from one club)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on November 22, 2010, 09:46:25 pm
How do you find out about local reliability rides?  I fancy giving one a go.
Title: Reliability Trials in the SE
Post by: Martin on November 22, 2010, 09:52:36 pm
How do you find out about local reliability rides?  I fancy giving one a go.

club websites mostly; the ESCA is organised (usually) by the club that holds the presidency for the year; anyone can enter but only Sussex clubs can win;

Horsham's was last weekend (Kidds Hill for £1; what's not to like?) Lewes' is usually end of January. Then there's the Hindhead one about the same time; a joint Crawley Wheelers / Horsham one. And the Dave Boorsma beginning of March. Bexley used to do one too.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Grandad on November 23, 2010, 12:14:40 am
There is usually a series of 5 in Kent in Jan/Feb. The Catford has developed into the Hell of the Ashdown but the others are a bit more traditional  -100k, moderately hilly. (The real old ones were 100 miles).

CC Bexley start at Horton Kirby, 34 Nomads and Sydenham Wheelers start Knockholt area and VTTA Kent start at Bethersden.
 
Check the websites in case there have been any recent changes.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on November 23, 2010, 05:52:32 pm
[[/quote]

Are reliability trials becoming more popular?  Total entries for the 3 distances of the KCA one in October and last year were both over 300. (Boosted by 90+ from one club)
[/quote]

All the TT Chaps ride them this way. Think you can find out about them in the back of Cycling Weekly (quick look in supermarket, then buy local rag!)  :P

Hell of the Ashdown (oh no a sportiff) get's 1500 riders, is that at £25.00 with an electronic tag that you hand back at the finish. Usually it's sold out a long way back.

MJ
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on December 12, 2010, 06:23:12 pm
Just a quick note for those thinking of doing my Down to Downs permanent over the winter.

In general, the route appears to shed its snow quite well, but not perfectly.  Whilst the roads today were largely clear (or at least limited to snow on the verges) the road from Brasted to Green Street Green crusted with snow and slush with icemelt.  So consider starting in Uckfield well after sunrise (I started from Edenbridge at 10:45am).

Also, be conscious that the road into Edenbridge is currently in relatively poor repair.  It didn't benefit from the improvements that recently took place around Hartfield (which was nice and smooth).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Manotea on December 12, 2010, 06:34:37 pm
Is there a 2011 list of events to be found?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on December 12, 2010, 09:21:52 pm
Is there a 2011 list of events to be found?

Martin will no doubt be along to say yes or no.

Bear in mind that if it is published now, it won't contain all of the likely routes.  For example, I still have an idea to run a 200km route in September but I am humming and hawwing.  In part because I can't decide which route to put on and where to start it from.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 13, 2010, 11:26:43 am
Is there a 2011 list of events to be found?

haven't got all the dates yet but it's any of the events shown here (in roughly chronological order; the South Downs 100 is also running Jan 30th; think I'm washing the cat that day)

Plus the Down to Downs calendar event on Easter weekend; that will make a nice change after my Dutch trip.

http://www.egcc.net/display-items.asp?intTypeID=90&intItemID=417
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on December 13, 2010, 12:58:34 pm
Plus AAA Milne perm (100km).  Edenbridge - Forest Row - Mayfield - Langton Green - Uckfield - Edenbridge

This has been accepted by John Ward and Steve Snook has awarded 1.75AAA.

I will be accepting entries from 1 January for ride dates later in that month (given I want to do a final test ride of the route sheet).

I still plan to submit a 200km perm but can't settle on which is better:

a) Godstone - Hildenborough - Uckfield - Green Street Green - Mayfield - Godstone
b) Edenbridge - Eynsford - Hildenborough - Warlingham - Forest Row - Mayfield - Battle - Wadhurst - Edenbridge

Currently erring towards (b) - it is hillier and offers more variety when put alongside the two 100km perms - but any comments welcome.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 13, 2010, 01:49:51 pm
definite calendar dates so far are;

100  15 Jan 11  Hailsham    Hills and Mills
AA1.75  [1850m]
  100  30 Jan 11  Hailsham, E Sussex    The South Downs National Park 100
AA2  [2040m]  
  120  19 Feb 11  Hailsham    Mad Jack's- John Seviour Memorial
AA2.5  [2450m]
  100  13 Mar 11  Otford, Sevenoaks    Kent Invicta Grimpeur 100
AA1.75  [1700m]  
 110  25 Apr 11  Edenbridge    Down to Downs
   09:00  Mon  AA1.75  [1750m] (that didn't come up when I narrowed it down to the SE)
  100 1 May IOW Randonnee (only eligible as a DIY by GPS)
  110  21 Aug 11  Shere, Guildford    Tour of the Hills
AA2.25  [2300m]  
  100  25 Sep 11  Bredgar, Nr Sittingbourne    Hengist's Hills
AA1.75  [1750m]
  100  15 Oct 11  Chailey, East Sussex    Mid Sussex Hillier  
AA1.75  [1800m]
  100  15 Oct 11  Chailey, East Sussex    Mid Sussex Hilly  
AA1.5  [1600m]
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 22, 2010, 06:18:51 pm
 Martin, how many GDS do you need to do to bag the badge..
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 23, 2010, 09:41:50 am
Martin, how many GDS do you need to do to bag the badge..

5 in any AUK year, including any perms / AAA DIY's / the IOW Randonee. You Sir have already bagged it last year just need to stump up 2 of the BRITONS pounds if you want one

and that is 1.11 to 31.10, not the new season they are introducing next year which ends in September, otherwise people might skip the MSH thinking they can catch up later
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 23, 2010, 10:34:26 am
people might skip the MSH
They would be very silly to do that. It's a fine ride.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 23, 2010, 11:30:56 am
people might skip the MSH
They would be very silly to do that. It's a fine ride.

it makes sense to keep it those dates as there are currently no GdS calendar events in Nov-Dec so the whole series can be ridden Jan-Oct
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Phixie on December 23, 2010, 03:56:55 pm
Martin, how many GDS do you need to do to bag the badge..

and that is 1.11 to 31.10, not the new season they are introducing next year which ends in September, otherwise people might skip the MSH thinking they can catch up later

Someone's jumping the gun here.  We just talked about it at the end of the last AGM.  It'll need to be thought through and a proposal submitted to the next AGM, which must be approved by the meeting before anything can be changed.  Of course that means that no change can be made until the end of the 2012 season at the earliest.

Regards,

RP
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 23, 2010, 09:05:54 pm
Martin, how many GDS do you need to do to bag the badge..

and that is 1.11 to 31.10, not the new season they are introducing next year which ends in September, otherwise people might skip the MSH thinking they can catch up later

Someone's jumping the gun here.  We just talked about it at the end of the last AGM.  It'll need to be thought through and a proposal submitted to the next AGM, which must be approved by the meeting before anything can be changed.  Of course that means that no change can be made until the end of the 2012 season at the earliest.

<sales pitch>
agreed; but as it's a Local Award for Local Riders no need for it to stick to an rigid National calendar; it would not make much sense to kick off a GdS with the MSH and then take a 2 month break..</sales pitch>
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 23, 2010, 09:35:15 pm

5 in any AUK year, including any perms / AAA DIY's / the IOW Randonee. You Sir have already bagged it last year just need to stump up 2 of the BRITONS pounds if you want one

Yes indeed, Sold! Pls bring one with you when you do Hills & Mills Sir..
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 27, 2010, 01:37:33 am
I Say Zoom, what have you been doing with the Curry now, how hot did you make it :'( !
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on January 06, 2011, 01:24:43 pm
AAA Milne (108km, 1.75AAA, Edenbridge-Forest Row-Mayfield-Langton Green-Uckfield-Edenbridge) is now available for rides taking place on or after 15 January 2011.  Part of the growing 'Round Weald Series.  Paper entries in the usual way (Form + fee + SAEs).


AAA Milne 100 - (AAA 1.75)  (http://www.aukweb.net/cal/perms/calsolo.php?Ride=WW08)

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 06, 2011, 01:30:42 pm
Cheque will be in the post tomorrow.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 06, 2011, 01:31:37 pm
Top Marks Billy  :thumbsup: (I rode the prototype) a perfect winter ride (like the Hills and Mills)

is it going to be a calendar a la Down to Downs?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 07, 2011, 09:15:21 pm
AAA Milne (108km, 1.75AAA, Edenbridge-Forest Row-Mayfield-Langton Green-Uckfield-Edenbridge) is now available for rides taking place on or after 15 January 2011.  Part of the growing 'Round Weald Series.  Paper entries in the usual way (Form + fee + SAEs).

Fantastic Sir, Can we join it at say, Mayfield or Uckfield, as it's only 10 miles from Hailsham..
 ;D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on January 07, 2011, 09:25:44 pm
Like my other perms, you can start at any point on the route if you can get a timed proof of control.  Uckfield and Mayfield are definites (cash machines, cafes etc).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 10, 2011, 11:11:42 am
dates for 2011 qualifiers so far;
 
Hills and Mills 15 Jan
South Downs National Park 100 30 Jan
Mad Jacks (John Seviour Memorial) 19 Feb
Invicta Grimpeur 13 March
Down to Downs  25 Apr
Tour of the Hills 21 Aug
Hengists Hills 25 Sep
Mid Sussex Hilly / Hillier 15 Oct
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 10, 2011, 11:55:46 am
Hills and Mills 15 Jan - entered
South Downs National Park 100 30 Jan - entered
Mad Jacks (John Seviour Memorial) 19 Feb - can't do as am in the Isle of Wight
Invicta Grimpeur 13 March - maybe
Down to Downs  25 Apr - maybe
Tour of the Hills 21 Aug - hope to be in France
Hengists Hills 25 Sep - hope to be in France
Mid Sussex Hilly / Hillier 15 Oct - will do the Hillier

Plan to do the AAA Milne perm plus the Down to Downs as a perm.

Does that make the required five events to wear and the coveted badge? - or do the Down to Downs (one as a perm, the other as a calendar event) count only as one event?

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 10, 2011, 12:35:45 pm
Does that make the required five events to wear and the coveted badge? - or do the Down to Downs (one as a perm, the other as a calendar event) count only as one event?

no; you can do perms and GPS DIY perms as many times as you like; and even have a GdS made entirely of perms. The award was intended to promote local Grimpeur calendar events; if it becomes apparent that too many perms are eating into calendar events (at least one of which was devised specifically for the award) this rule might have to be reviewed. But I hope that's unlikely :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 16, 2011, 11:09:42 pm
Now we've got our first (or second  ;)) GdS under our belts who's up for the South Park 100? I decided it was much too hard but decided in a fit of something to print out an entry form and courier it over to El S personally yesterday;

Butts Brow bis High n Over Firle Beacon and Bopeep; we must be mad..
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 17, 2011, 11:21:31 am
who's up for the South Park 100?
Me. I hope to get to the controls with more than a minute to spare. Unlike on Saturday. :o Also hope not to be blown - bike and all :'( - into the verge by a strong gust of wind. also unlike Saturday. ::-)
El's oven was a great hit - piping hot tea by the gallon, hot mini-sausages and sausage rolls. Mmmmm. :thumbsup:
 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 17, 2011, 03:23:46 pm
Dave was telling me about it on Sat; it adds Bopeep and also the climb out of Wannock; I presume it's lost one of the 3 or is it 4? ascents of High n Over

Reminder; I hope to have a free embroidered patch for all GdSx5 (ie 5 years worth)this year
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 17, 2011, 04:44:03 pm
How about some sort of communal get-together at a local hostelry following the final GdS event of the year?
It would mark the end of a season of great effort and reward..............
You could, sort of, er, present badges, make a speech, drink beer.
Mind you some of the early finishers might have to wait awhile for the lanterne rouge to arrive.............
Maybe a pub near Chailey?
Or perhaps keep the village hall for an hour or two longer and have some sort of do? Maybe get in a barrel of Harveys? I could suggest an outside caterer who might be prepared to help...........
Just an idea to add to the burdens of your life, Mr Zoom. Others would help with the organising........
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on January 17, 2011, 05:16:50 pm
who's up for the South Park 100

Not I, for I have other (flatter) fish to fry.  Enjoy the climbs (and descents) on this route, which strike me as requiring levels of chutzpah well beyond mine at this time of year.

Martin Brice wrote...
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How about some sort of communal get-together at a local hostelry following the final GdS event of the year?

Isn't the GdS rather niche to attract anything more than a handful of riders?  I did idly wonder if a South East Reunion would be possible, to which organisers, riders etc could attend.  Given the AGM appears to be fixed in York, this might be a better way for local riders to reflect on the year and renew acquaintances?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 17, 2011, 07:49:22 pm
Maybe a pub near Chailey?
Or perhaps keep the village hall for an hour or two longer and have some sort of do? Maybe get in a barrel of Harveys? I could suggest an outside caterer who might be prepared to help

nice idea but I'm always completely shattered after organising the MSH and just want to get home and flomp over a can of Stella,

But Billy's SE Reunion idea (with Darts to / from?) is a very good one; Pam used to do one but nothing much down this way recently. The last time the AGM was in Guildford there was a big SE presence, many of whom did not go up to York.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 24, 2011, 09:45:30 pm
who's up for the South Park 100?
Me. I hope to get to the controls with more than a minute to spare. Unlike on Saturday. :o Also hope not to be blown - bike and all :'( - into the verge by a strong gust of wind. also unlike Saturday. ::-)
El's oven was a great hit - piping hot tea by the gallon, hot mini-sausages and sausage rolls. Mmmmm. :thumbsup:
 


Got the route sheet today; I think it's best to hide it in my back pocket and just follow everyone else  :'(

And I spent a few hours yesterday fitting new wheels tyres etc to the light bike which is probably not going out this weekend  :(
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 25, 2011, 12:59:42 pm
i have followed the route on the map - there are lots of climbs and some are repated - I suspect we will be cursing all the gratuitous violence in the route planning. I might arrive at the start early to get away promptly so I finish before the dropdead point.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 26, 2011, 05:44:11 pm
i have followed the route on the map - there are lots of climbs and some are repated - I suspect we will be cursing all the gratuitous violence in the route planning. I might arrive at the start early to get away promptly so I finish before the dropdead point.

Good idea to keep rolling and don't linger longer than you need to at controls.

El would say- time is miles!  :thumbsup:

A
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 27, 2011, 01:28:10 pm
That's a good idea. I plan to roll early from the start - based on my own assessment of my needs and what El tells me to do!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 27, 2011, 06:32:45 pm
EL will be at the top of Butts lane too, that's one of the steepest B*****ds around here, it kicks off like a muel on steroids, then if you don't pace yourself you will suffer!  :o

If your not in a rush there's a new memorial to the Flying fortress crew who didn't quiet make it back in WW2, when they plowed into the hill in the sea mist.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 28, 2011, 10:50:36 am
Might ride the section from Butts Hill back to the leisure centre tomorrow, out of sheer boredom and lack of a life so I won't waste time in the gathering gloom trying to get back to Richard before the centre chucks him out!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 30, 2011, 07:47:56 pm
That was a bastard hard ride for January as I suspected when I entered; the icy NE wind didn't help (didn't need brakes going down HaO) but a fantastic day for it. Butts Lane Beachy Head Bopeep and Firle were all mega-dodgy on the way down due to a hard frost; but I don't think anyone went down.

a lovely day and some superb views in the winter sun; met loads of yacf inc Ashaman, The Borg (I think) Dougal, Lurkio and AJB (controllers), Phixie at the finish and at Firle, MJ, MartinBrice and of course Cyklisten with whom I rode most of the day. Spent far too long chatting to El S at Butts Brow and was absolutely frozen all the way to the finish.

bring on the John Seviour MJ; better start sacrificing curing virgins now to get nice weather for it...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 30, 2011, 08:38:08 pm
was absolutely frozen all the way to the finish
Great day out. Friggin freezing. V scary on the v frequent White bits. V tough with 12 hills. I now have 2 events towards the GdS badge. today was an excellent example of the warm glow of satisfaction felt once you have learnt to strive and not to yield.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ashaman42 on January 30, 2011, 09:21:25 pm
A great day out. Though as said above a tad cold and a bit 'interesting' on the frosty bits. I wimped out and walked down some of them, glad I did as one chap ahead of me did come off, don't think he was too hurt though.

Finally put a face to Zoom and Cyklisten which is nice and am perusing the calendar for some more rides. Any recommendations for a flat 200? Cos those hills had me flagging towards the end.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 30, 2011, 09:25:19 pm
Cos those hills had me flagging towards the end.
You and me both.
Try the Man of Kent 200k perm or the weald of kent.
Next Saturday El has the 1066 - a 100k ride
Nowhere near as hilly as today. Recommended.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 31, 2011, 10:35:12 am
the 1066 is not a GdS but as you can imagine with Dave is not entirely flat; I think the El S nonAAA 100s get flatter the further West they go;

the SDNP100 is one of the hardest GdS,

the others are more benign, if not in actual climbing but in the nature of the climbing and time of year; most climbing is the Tour of the Hills least is the IOW

Hailsham East Sussex Hills and Mills AA 1.75
Hailsham East Sussex Mad Jack's - John Seviour MemorialAA 2
Otford Kent Invicta Grimpeur AA 1.75 (the 50k Invicta Hilly is not eligible for the Brevet)
Edenbridge Kent Down to Downs AA 1.75
Isle of Wight 100km Randonnee AA 1.5 (non AUK) Click here for details NB now available all year round as an AUK DIY permanent, contact Martin Malins for details
Boughton Lees Kent The Crown AA 1.75
Midhurst West Sussex Sussex Corker AA 2 NB this event will take a break in 2011 and run again in 2012
Hailsham East Sussex The South Downs National Park 100 AA 2
Shere, Guildford Tour of the Hills AA2.25
Redhill, Surrey William the Conkerer 200 AA3
Bredgar Kent Hengist's Hills AA 1.75
Chailey, East Sussex Mid Sussex Hilly and Hillier AA 1.5 / 1.75






Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on January 31, 2011, 11:47:41 am
Redhill, Surrey William the Conkerer 200 AA3

Not running this year.  I am preparing a revised route that can be offered as a permanent (a project for March/April), in which case the GdS will have a 200km ride.  It will run in the calendar in July 2012 and (if well received) every year thereafter.  I'm moving Down to Downs to February/March, alternating with the AAA Milne.  And moving Redhill Beach Trip to September, albeit not GdS.

I am going to spend part of the summer preparing a 300km hilly permanent.  If it works out and "pleasant" (or at least as pleasant as a grimpeur that takes in half a dozen iconic climbs in the area can be) then I might put it on as a calendar event in 2013 in parallel with the Conkerer.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 31, 2011, 12:36:20 pm
Redhill, Surrey William the Conkerer 200 AA3

Not running this year.  I am preparing a revised route that can be offered as a permanent (a project for March/April), in which case the GdS will have a 200km ride.  It will run in the calendar in July 2012 and (if well received) every year

I appreciate that; the list of events on my GdS webpsge is generic; it does say to look at the AUK Calendar for a full list of what's running this year and has a direct link to it.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 31, 2011, 02:11:57 pm
Consider entering my audax events in the East Surrey/West Sussex area

12.2.11: Redhill Beach Trip (200km, 0AAA)
25.4.11: Down to Downs (100km, 1.75AAA)
Is this a carefully-concealed attempt to suggest that the Redhill Beach Trip is actually a quite flat ride?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 31, 2011, 02:28:30 pm
I'm currently working on a compensation for not doing The Beacon on the Mid Sussex Hilly (and also reducing the bike traffic up there on the day); there is a fine view of the Downs from Ditchling village itself; meant to drive up there yesterday but lack of daylight intervened; will check out this weekend. It might end up knocking the minimum distance down too much though, I don't want it to be an extra info but an alternative to Westmeston.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on January 31, 2011, 06:50:02 pm
Consider entering my audax events in the East Surrey/West Sussex area

12.2.11: Redhill Beach Trip (200km, 0AAA)
25.4.11: Down to Downs (100km, 1.75AAA)
Is this a carefully-concealed attempt to suggest that the Redhill Beach Trip is actually a quite flat ride?

The profile is
- flattish for 80km (Redhill - Upper Beeding via Rudgewick)
- undulating for 30km (Upper Beeding - Seaford)
- hilly for 30km (Seaford - Beachy Head - Litlington)
- flat for 20km (Litlington - Uckfield)
- undulating for 30km (Uckfield - Turners Hill)
- flattish for 20km (Turners Hill - Redhill) 

Only 3 climbs I'd really say it is best having a small gear to fall back on.  A short, sharp climb out of Ponyngs, a 14% climb at Exceat, and a 16% climb at East Dean.  The last two are also descended.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 31, 2011, 07:13:30 pm
After yesterday's trauma in subzero temperatures and strong north breeze that sounds almost like a holiday :D 8) :-\
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 31, 2011, 07:16:34 pm
is the climb out of East Dean on the way out or back?; the A259 to Eastbourne from ED yesterday was this,

purgatory;

I much prefer the Birling Gap road eastbound and will probably take that way anyway,
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on January 31, 2011, 08:09:01 pm
is the climb out of East Dean on the way out or back?; the A259 to Eastbourne from ED yesterday was this,

purgatory;

I much prefer the Birling Gap road eastbound and will probably take that way anyway,

Both.  You do a loop of the Beachy Head peninsula, returning to the right turn to Litlington/Alfriston.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 31, 2011, 08:17:32 pm
is the climb out of East Dean on the way out or back?; the A259 to Eastbourne from ED yesterday was this,

purgatory;

I much prefer the Birling Gap road eastbound and will probably take that way anyway,

Both.  You do a loop of the Beachy Head peninsula, returning to the right turn to Litlington/Alfriston.

which way does the loop go? Beachy Head or Birling Gap first or doesn't it matter? (if it's an info I'll do BG first)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on January 31, 2011, 08:19:13 pm
Birling Gap - Beachy Head (clockwise)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 31, 2011, 08:21:10 pm
Birling Gap - Beachy Head (clockwise)

that's anticlockwise
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on January 31, 2011, 10:55:55 pm
Birling Gap - Beachy Head (clockwise)

that's anticlockwise

So it is.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on February 02, 2011, 06:08:57 pm
Good photo on the inside cover of the latest Arrivee Zoom, (Mid Sussex Hilly).
Colin's going like a train as he did on Hills and Mills..

Shame the back cover is missing on my Arrivee though, supposed to show Abraham on Mad Jacks JSM..  :-\
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 02, 2011, 09:05:00 pm
Good photo on the inside cover of the latest Arrivee Zoom, (Mid Sussex Hilly).
Colin's going like a train as he did on Hills and Mills..

Colin always goes like a train; once he's passed through the control I know I can put my feet up for another 20 mins;

Hoping for more in the next edition..
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on February 03, 2011, 06:05:23 pm
Colin always goes like a train; once he's passed through the control I know I can put my feet up for another 20 mins;

**He was some 2 hours quicker that the slowest rider!

Hoping for more in the next edition..

**Yes indeed, so who is the un-named rider on the back cover of the Handbook?


Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 03, 2011, 10:37:29 pm
I thought he was a YACF; I did sound an APB email out in response to Tim's request for ID
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on February 27, 2011, 06:03:52 pm
Had my first proper spin around the AAA Milne (1.75AAA 109km perm, GdS eligible) today.  Hard ride - lots of punchy hills in the first 60km, which makes it feel slightly tougher than Down to Downs.

I'd love to figure out a way of getting from Ashdown ridge to Fir Toll Road that doesn't involved 1-2 mile on the A26 towards Crowborough.  It was the only bit that I was thinking "this can surely be improved".
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 27, 2011, 07:01:36 pm

I'd love to figure out a way of getting from Ashdown ridge to Fir Toll Road that doesn't involved 1-2 mile on the A26 towards Crowborough.  It was the only bit that I was thinking "this can surely be improved".

that'll be Hubbards Hill up past the Horder Centre

you won't be popular  :-*
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on February 27, 2011, 07:08:41 pm
Had my first proper spin around the AAA Milne
Er, didn't you create it? waddya mean - it's a hard ride? I could have told you that. Mind you it is the GdS. If it was easy, everyone would do it ;) ::-) O:-)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 27, 2011, 07:10:39 pm
Had my first proper spin around the AAA Milne
Er, didn't you create it?

he created it; I named it, I rode it when it was still a twinkle in Christopher Robin's eye. The name was originally intended for my 2006 reroute of the MSH which you've not had the pleasure of, it will next run in 2012 (with a very nice Hillier finale)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on February 27, 2011, 07:52:58 pm
Had my first proper spin around the AAA Milne
Er, didn't you create it? waddya mean - it's a hard ride? I could have told you that. Mind you it is the GdS. If it was easy, everyone would do it ;) ::-) O:-)

Yurp.  Although the first time I'd ridden it all in one go - when I pulled together the route I broke it down into manageable chunks.  Today was a manageable behemoth.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on February 28, 2011, 08:39:17 am

I'd love to figure out a way of getting from Ashdown ridge to Fir Toll Road that doesn't involved 1-2 mile on the A26 towards Crowborough.  It was the only bit that I was thinking "this can surely be improved".

that'll be Hubbards Hill up past the Horder Centre

you won't be popular  :-*

I think I know where that is (descend off the ridge toward Friars Gate, taking right?)   Can't remember where it goes though - does it pop out in Crowborough itself, requiring navigation of urban roads to get towards Jarvis Brook?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 28, 2011, 10:27:19 am
It's Marden's Hill; yes it involves a bit of wiggling around Crowborough but mostly quiet residential roads. Not really a good alternative as it reverses Friars Gate. I'd live with the short bit along the A26 otherwise there is too much repetition of route (the other alternative being via High Hurstwood)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on February 28, 2011, 05:50:58 pm

I'd love to figure out a way of getting from Ashdown ridge to Fir Toll Road that doesn't involved 1-2 mile on the A26 towards Crowborough.  It was the only bit that I was thinking "this can surely be improved".

I say Sir, do you have permission to use MY ROADS!  ;D

Yes, Hills and Mills goes that way and as Zoom says, it's a lot more navigating to avoid the A26, I do know it through there, but it's a lot of effort.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on February 28, 2011, 06:07:29 pm

I'd love to figure out a way of getting from Ashdown ridge to Fir Toll Road that doesn't involved 1-2 mile on the A26 towards Crowborough.  It was the only bit that I was thinking "this can surely be improved".

I say Sir, do you have permission to use MY ROADS!  ;D

Yes, Hills and Mills goes that way and as Zoom says, it's a lot more navigating to avoid the A26, I do know it through there, but it's a lot of effort.


<withnail>
We demand the finest roads known to humanity.  And we want them here.  And we want them now.
</withnail>

When I rode it yesterday, I was reminded of snippets from the mid-Sussex and the Hills and Mills.  A fluke, as it simply represented the most obvious (and pleasant) way to get from Forest Row to Mayfield.  It was rather novel not doing Fir Toll Road in the depths of winter (indeed, I was in shorts, albiet regretting the decision when descending off of Ashdown towards Hartfield in the chilly rain).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on February 28, 2011, 08:48:54 pm



<withnail>
We demand the finest roads known to humanity.  And we want them here.  And we want them now.
</withnail>

When I rode it yesterday, I was reminded of snippets from the mid-Sussex and the Hills and Mills.  A fluke, as it simply represented the most obvious (and pleasant) way to get from Forest Row to Mayfield.  It was rather novel not doing Fir Toll Road in the depths of winter (indeed, I was in shorts, albiet regretting the decision when descending off of Ashdown towards Hartfield in the chilly rain).

Shorts- February= brave!

Well I did use some of the Battle and Back route in reverse for Hills and Mills, only way to get to the Wall from Mayfield and Brightling.

We need more roads, well lanes. I have used the bridal path from the forest to the Hoard centre, this is amazing and a bit testing, not sure if road bikes would cope though (hey Zoom).

Remind me the name of your perm Sir.. 


Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 28, 2011, 09:00:22 pm

We need more roads, well lanes. I have used the bridal path from the forest to the Hoard centre, this is amazing and a bit testing, not sure if road bikes would cope though (hey Zoom).

The road I'm thinking of is a very well surfaced one; not a bridleway (bridal path in Ashdown Forest? passable by cycles? I think they have a byelaw allowing you to be hunted with hounds for that  ;)) with a very nice stiff climb a bit like Doleham up to the Horder Centre. It's a good road; but not for this route; it would be better if it was incorporated into a ride which then went to High Husrtwood and took in the never to be repeated original MSH route southwards to Chailey or Newick and thence to the S Downs) <lightbulb>
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on February 28, 2011, 10:16:54 pm


The road I'm thinking of is a very well surfaced one; not a bridleway (bridal path in Ashdown Forest? passable by cycles? I think they have a byelaw allowing you to be hunted with hounds for that  ;)) with a very nice stiff climb a bit like Doleham up to the Horder Centre. It's a good road; but not for this route; it would be better if it was incorporated into a ride which then went to High Husrtwood and took in the never to be repeated original MSH route southwards to Chailey or Newick and thence to the S Downs) <lightbulb>

Mmm Hounds on your back wheel- that's a new one.. :o

Bridal path (un- surfaced road) is just off the B2188 just north from Kings Standing.

Maybe better to go down the B2188 then head for Friar's Gate - St John's. Then link it to Jarvis Brook (ripping descent). Have to get out there now we have lighter evenings upon us..
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 14, 2011, 10:24:34 am
Thanks to the wonders of GPS and also Billy's excellent 2 perms I have got my 2010/11 GdS already.

There are a handful of riders coming up for 5 years of GdS (also 10 rides in a year count double) so I'm going to get a very limited edition embroidered GdS badge made up to be given free to the select few, when they're gone they're gone...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on March 14, 2011, 11:22:59 am
Thanks to the wonders of GPS and also Billy's excellent 2 perms I have got my 2010/11 GdS already.
And I'm delighted to say that so have I! :thumbsup:
I now intend to do it all again so it counts as twice for this year. I find these hilly hundreds are ideal if you are at a loose end and want a quick day out with some strenuous exercise for the legs. and gawd knows, I do need that.................
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 04, 2011, 08:47:00 pm
Here they are; they look superb in real 100mm life (the red is actually very good this photo is a result of the flash being too close)
 
In the post gratis as soon as you've done your 5 years (10 rides in a year count for 2 years). Only 30 available (ever)

(http://www.fotothing.com/photos/537/537d633701bc2b21f51de050f0d9a884.jpg?ts=1301946015)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Redlight on April 04, 2011, 08:52:21 pm
Here they are; they look superb in real 100mm life (the red is actually very good this photo is a result of the flash being too close)
 
In the post gratis as soon as you've done your 5 years (10 rides in a year count for 2 years). Only 30 available (ever)

(http://www.fotothing.com/photos/537/537d633701bc2b21f51de050f0d9a884.jpg?ts=1301946015)


That would look fantastic on the back of a jersey......
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on April 04, 2011, 09:11:01 pm
as soon as you've done your 5 years (10 rides in a year count for 2 years)
Right. I already have my five rides this year. I thought, as it seems I might have the last week of August free, I might do a GdS-valid perm every day for five days. As it seems I might have a week of holiday booked, and nothing planned. Based on my current prrformance, that is.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 02, 2011, 01:01:55 pm
the Sussex Corker will return on Sun 8 July 2012 (sandwiched in between a trip I have planned for late June and some obscure spectator event that month)

anyone else want to organise one? Hampshire is looking a bit bare
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on June 23, 2011, 08:35:25 pm
4th Hills and Mills 104km 1.75 AAA prov- Sat 21st Jan 2012 (one week later).

12th Mad Jacks (JSM) 120km 2.5 AAA prov- Sat 18th Feb 2012.

E L Supremo feeds (X2 on both) inc Hot food from the Oven!   :thumbsup:

Andy
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 06, 2011, 08:38:55 pm
anyone else doing Hengist's Hills on Sun 25th? 10.00 start and 4 feed stops; gwan gwan gwan  :)
Tim set it up specially for the GdS, you know you want to! it's not even that hard
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on September 06, 2011, 10:43:03 pm
Alas am doing The French Ride. Not that one, just med to manche.  :smug:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on September 06, 2011, 10:57:55 pm
Not I.  Did it last year, so falls foul of my self imposed rule for this season of not doing events I've done before (which has, in reality, turned out to be "don't do very many events at all").

Well organised event with a mildly diverting route, albeit too much out and back for my liking.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 07, 2011, 10:09:13 am
I plan to do Hengist 's hills as it is very local to me. Is it possible to add a loop to ece it up to 200km or do you have to live away from the start?

absolutely not; no problem with adding a 100km loop from wherever  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 25, 2011, 08:58:17 pm
Rode Hengist's Hills today; a really excellent little event (that deserves to be bigger) usual AAA suspects Cyklisten Teapot (latest GdSx5 gold badge winner) Phixie aregister Ann M and a guest appearance from PBP local hero Jeremy fka Captain Apollo; superb feeds 3 times. Weather was perfect; a tailwind all the way back from the last climb of Hollingbourne Hill. I felt fine all the way round; something must be going right. Tim is thinking of running a 200 from the same place next year; if it's worth AAA I'm definitely in, a 200 GdS is a rare and welcome beast!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on September 25, 2011, 09:39:07 pm
a really excellent little event (that deserves to be bigger)
Absolutely!
Tim is thinking of running a 200 from the same place next year
Martin - would that be instead of Hengists Hills, or an additional event?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on September 25, 2011, 10:38:29 pm
a 200 GdS is a rare and welcome beast

We may be blessed with two GdS 200s in the calendar (and a permanent to boot, as with minor extensions into Swanley and Hayes my 200 doesn't need information controls).  My plans are well advanced, with a date in the shadow calendar available to organisers 8).  Think of it as a hillier reincarnation of William the Conkerer, with added climbs of the North Downs and the Greensand chart.

An early sketch of the route is on my website (https://sites.google.com/site/randonneuruk/calendar-events/weald-at-heart-200)  but will be tweaked a little.  Still trying to decide whether to take the calendar route up Kidds Hill (and then down via Fairwarp and the lanes around Jarvis Brook etc) rather than skirting north of Crowborough.  The route will also stop short of Hayes, with an early control closer to Keston (checkpoint if can get a volunteer).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 25, 2011, 10:45:19 pm
Martin - would that be instead of Hengists Hills, or an additional event?

additional I think;Tim said it would work out at the same number of AAA so this would have to on the "hilly 100k section" rule I suspect, it certainly won't pick up much climbing around Romney Marsh.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on September 26, 2011, 12:02:21 pm
If he wants to keep it hilly he can strike out east along the "Crown" route towards Wye, Folkestone, Dover and (ouch!) St. Margaret's Bay.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PaulOlmo on September 27, 2011, 09:29:10 am

Hi everyone, decided not to return to GdS this year but glad to see it's business as usual. I was considering organising a "Crown" as I think I can get the use of a suitable base in Kennington - is there still a hole in the calendar for this and would there be interest? I've never organised before so it would be a new venture. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on September 27, 2011, 12:34:44 pm
would there be interest?

Hi Paul - Yes, I think we all miss the "Crown". Go for it!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 27, 2011, 12:52:37 pm

Hi everyone, decided not to return to GdS this year but glad to see it's business as usual. I was considering organising a "Crown" as I think I can get the use of a suitable base in Kennington - is there still a hole in the calendar for this and would there be interest? I've never organised before so it would be a new venture. Just a thought.

Paul; I'm looking into helping set up one in Essex (yes Essex!) at the end of May / beginning of June. The calendar is looking like
Jan Hills and Mills
Feb Mad Jack
Mar Invicta Grimpeur
Apr Tour of the Sussex Hills
May free so far but the IOW is the first weekend and is a discretionary qualifier (and also DIY)
June free
July Sussex Corker
Aug Tour of the Hills / Billy's two
Sep Hengist's Hills? and maybe a 200
Oct Mid Sussex Hilly / Olympic

The Crown is by no means dead and buried; check with PatC if you were thinking of reviving it.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on September 27, 2011, 05:16:40 pm
+August;  AAA Milne 100 (and assuming it gets the AAA points my contour count suggests, Weald at Heart 200).

I've just registered these and next steps will be to submit details of the 200 to the AAA meister to confirm my contour count climb figure.

I did think about a 300km grimpeur, but decided against it as all of the possible routes I've plotted out would require too many controls or some less than ideal roads.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 27, 2011, 09:24:49 pm
Billy; added yours to the list; shall I add them as provisional to the GdS page (which has no dates but has the events listed in rough chronological order)?

NB whatever AUK decide to do with the official calendar; the GdS always runs to the last calendar event which is the MSH.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on September 27, 2011, 09:28:56 pm
Best put them down as provisional until they appear in the calendar with official AAA points.

AAA Milne is the permanent route, so will get the 1.75 AAA.

Weald at Heart will be tweaked until 3.25AAA is confirmed, but in correspondence with the AAA Man about whether I need to add infos etc (or, if this becomes cumbersome, I'll take riders up Kidds Hill instead of via Motts Mill from Forest Row to Mayfield).

PS: not relevant to the calendar events, but I am pondering radically changing the AAA Milne permanent so that it is a figure of 8 based on Forest Row, Pease Pottage, Uckfield, Langton Green, Mayfield, Forest Row.  Early planning stage though.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 27, 2011, 09:41:08 pm
Motts Mill would be nicer  :thumbsup: I well remember my first ever Audax the TBAB where 2 riders fell off due to coming to a sudden stop (plus the ride up to Argos Hill is very nice)

PS: not relevant to the calendar events, but I am pondering radically changing the AAA Milne permanent so that it is a figure of 8 based on Forest Row, Pease Pottage, Uckfield, Langton Green, Mayfield, Forest Row.  Early planning stage though.

looks interesting; do you have permission to use my roads?   ;)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PaulOlmo on September 28, 2011, 09:02:55 am

The Crown is by no means dead and buried; check with PatC if you were thinking of reviving it.

I've just emailed Pat at the address I had a couple of years ago. PM me if you have a newer one so I'm not waiting in vain for a reply.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PaulOlmo on September 28, 2011, 10:45:38 pm
Paul; I'm looking into helping set up one in Essex (yes Essex!) at the end of May / beginning of June. The calendar is looking like
Jan Hills and Mills
Feb Mad Jack
Mar Invicta Grimpeur
Apr Tour of the Sussex Hills
May free so far but the IOW is the first weekend and is a discretionary qualifier (and also DIY)
June free
July Sussex Corker
Aug Tour of the Hills / Billy's two
Sep Hengist's Hills? and maybe a 200
Oct Mid Sussex Hilly / Olympic

The Crown is by no means dead and buried; check with PatC if you were thinking of reviving it.

I heard back from Pat - all good, so looks like I might be on. It was previously on the end May but your Essex (!) foray will scotch that, so I might bag a slot in June - how about the 10th?

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Billy Weir on September 29, 2011, 07:18:23 am
I'll be amazed at your ingenuity if a grimpeur event can be put on in Essex.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 29, 2011, 03:47:24 pm

I heard back from Pat - all good, so looks like I might be on. It was previously on the end May but your Essex (!) foray will scotch that, so I might bag a slot in June - how about the 10th?

sounds good  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PaulOlmo on October 03, 2011, 06:31:51 pm

The 10th isn't looking good for me as it clashes with something else so Martin I'm now looking at the 17 June if you're still intending on using the end May.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 03, 2011, 08:28:13 pm

The 10th isn't looking good for me as it clashes with something else so Martin I'm now looking at the 17 June if you're still intending on using the end May.

sounds good; I'll probably be doing a Grimpeur du Nord (Nord Alpes that is) that day but plan away  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 16, 2011, 01:45:14 pm
2012 calendar definites so far; expect Tour of the Hills in Aug and another couple hopefully in May / June

21 Jan 12 Sat  100 Hailsham      Hills and Mills                                    1.75
18 Feb 12 Sat  120 Hailsham      Mad Jack's John Seviour Memorial         2.5 
11 Mar 12 Sun  100 Otford          Invicta Grimpeur                               2     
01 Apr 12 Sun  100 Polegate      Tour of the Sussex Hills                       1.75 
08 Jul 12 Sun  100 Midhurst        Sussex Corker                                   2 
26 Aug 12 Sun  200 Edenbridge    Round Weald ride                              3.25
26 Aug 12 Sun  120 Edenbridge    Kidds Toys                                       2
20 Oct 12 Sat  100 Chailey             Mid Sussex Hilly                            1.5
20 Oct 12 Sat  100 Chailey             Mid Sussex Olympic                       1.75

a reminder; the GdS season will not be changing to the new AUK one; there are currently no calendar qualifying events in November / December so it makes sense to keep the year from November to October (perms in the first 2 months are of course eligible)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 29, 2011, 08:22:19 pm
Congratulations to the latest GdS (and only the second grimpeuse) Polepole  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on October 30, 2011, 09:47:49 am
Congratulations to the latest GdS (and only the second grimpeuse) Polepole  :thumbsup:
And this from someone who says: "I don't do hills." She seemed to manage OK on the ones from Paris to Brest. And back  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 30, 2011, 11:24:34 pm
Congratulations to the latest GdS (and only the second grimpeuse) Polepole  :thumbsup:
And this from someone who says: "I don't do hills." She seemed to manage OK on the ones from Paris to Brest. And back  :thumbsup:

and the ones from Hailsham to Liss and back today; the day after riding Down to Downs  :o (I had to be reminded today that I gave blood 2 days ago partly to give the Polepolemobile a chance to catch up and also as I wondered where my climbing ability had suddenly gone)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 06, 2011, 11:40:45 am
NB the 2012 GdS season opened on 1.11.11 and will close on 31.10.12;

however it's likely there will be a calendar event in November 2012 in which case the season will be extended to 31.12.12 and theafter will be a straight calendar year Jan-Dec

Hopefully riding my first ride; AAA Milne, next Sun
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 02, 2012, 06:07:55 pm
first GdS x 6 already today thanks to Billy's wonderful perms; they really are an inspiration  :thumbsup: even at 07.25 on a cold climb of Ashdown Forest in the dark

what are you waiting for? there's only 25 gold badges left (ever!) you have until 31.12.12 to complete (extended season this year!)

I'm hoping to make a new perm myself soon; The Reliable, a tiddly 1.5AAA based on the ESCA RT; does a few stiff climbs near Crowborough (start) and Ticehurst and the classic climb up to Brightling from the East but generally managable if you don't try to complete in 4h 45  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 02, 2012, 06:50:49 pm
OGrimpeurs d'Or, 10 eligible events ridden in the same year

Eligible events include


Hailsham East Sussex Hills and Mills AA 1.75
Hailsham East Sussex Mad Jack's - John Seviour MemorialAA 2
Otford Kent Invicta Grimpeur AA 1.75 (the 50k Invicta Hilly is not eligible for the Brevet)
Edenbridge Kent Down to Downs AA 1.75
Isle of Wight 100km Randonnee AA 1.5 (non AUK) Click here for details NB now available all year round as an AUK DIY permanent, contact Martin Malins for details
Midhurst West Sussex Sussex Corker AA 2 NB this event will take a break in 2011 and run again on Sunday July 8 2012
Hailsham East Sussex The South Downs National Park 100 AA 2
Shere, Guildford Tour of the Hills AA2.25
Bredgar Kent Hengist's Hills AA 1.75
Chailey, East Sussex Mid Sussex Hilly and Hillier AA 1.5 / 1.75

see Audax UK Calendar for more details.

http://www.audax.uk.net/cal

Martin Sir,

Any chance of putting the individual Calendar links up and along side each event on this list..

Here's Hills and Mills - http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/12-77/ 

Mad Jacks JSM- http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/12-85/

Cheers,

MJ
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 02, 2012, 07:17:51 pm
there's only 25 gold badges left (ever!)
Oh gawd. OK. Hills and Mills entered. Mad Jack's about to enter. I agree re Billy's perms, they really are super. I'll have to rode both several times to get the coveted
Grimpeur d'Or
though
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Polepole on January 02, 2012, 09:07:38 pm
what are you waiting for? there's only 25 gold badges left (ever!) you have until 31.12.12 to complete (extended season this year!)


Oh dear-in that case I have no excuse! I'll have to go for 10 rides. I'm hoping to get 5 done by the end of April this year (2 perms) so hopefully fitting a further 5 in shouldn't prove too difficult. Famous last words.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 03, 2012, 09:19:07 am
10 this year and 10 next will bag you the coveted gold badge as you did 5 in 2011

gonna need some more medals at some stage too  :-\
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Jonah on January 04, 2012, 06:54:39 pm
Is there a badge for GdS x5 rides?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 05, 2012, 10:41:51 am
Is there a badge for GdS x5 rides?

yes; the little one at the top of the page; £2 to you, will bring some to Hills and Mills and the Invicta Grimpeur
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 19, 2012, 10:59:04 am
New webpage here thanks to someone with far more IT savvy than me  :-[

http://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

We have a Royal visitor too  :)

check the gallery
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 19, 2012, 03:02:46 pm
We have a Royal visitor
Alas, I fear I am insufficiently familiar with crowned heads. Is it that Pippa Middleton the chav sitting next to me at work talks about so much?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 19, 2012, 04:06:16 pm
no it's the current ladies AAA points leader; you get a better class of hill in the SE  :)
(no prizes for correctly identifying the location)

remember you can also use a GPS DIY or ECE starting in the specified counties as a qualifier; provided at least 100km qualifies for AAA
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 08, 2012, 01:43:14 pm
I'm pleased to announce that my GdS eligible new perm The Reliable based on the 65th ESCA RT is available to ride; the easiest of all the GdS with no really bad hills, mostly rolling, the summit is Brightling Observatory

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/MM01/

gpx available here (note it starts from either Crowborough station which is not in Crowborough, or Ripe near Lewes)

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/293368

just knocking together a route sheet..

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on February 08, 2012, 07:17:25 pm
looks a cracker, entry will be posted tomorrow.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 08, 2012, 08:44:40 pm
looks a cracker, entry will be posted tomorrow.

it really is "GdS-lite" as it was intended to be blasted round inna double stylee in 4.00-4.30 (I managed 4.45) but you have a full 10 hrs to enjoy the views  :) and unlike many other GdS it has a long flat recovery phase around Ripe before the hilly but benign last leg
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on February 09, 2012, 09:18:59 am
So with Hills and Mills, Mad Jack's, this and Billy's Hillys, the GdS will be mine once again!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 14, 2012, 10:30:48 pm
just debuted The Reliable; not as easy as it seemed on paper (or even given the generous AUK time limit compared to the RT version) this may have had something to do with doing an El S 200 perm yesterday  :facepalm:; but the very last climb up and drop into Crowborough is great; some lovely swooping descents on good surfaces all the way round too;

will do a bit of tweaking to avoid more of the A22

bring gears...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on February 18, 2012, 08:04:09 pm
New webpage here thanks to someone with far more IT savvy than me  :-[

http://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

We have a Royal visitor too  :)

check the gallery

Here you go for those that wanted to know the next events in the GDS series,

Cheers Martin for putting this together,

MJ
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 21, 2012, 01:17:21 pm
will do a bit of tweaking to avoid more of the A22

hey presto; The Reliable now avoids the A22 and also East Hoathly village which was the start / finish of the ESCA RT since about AD987 but served no purpose on this ride (apart from a possible fortifying pint of Fallen Angel for the last stage)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 06, 2012, 09:42:36 pm
New calendar events The Crown (well a new organiser anyway) and White Hill Grimpeur now added

http://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on March 07, 2012, 11:40:57 am
Amazing how these rides have become an important part of south-east audax. Loads of rides, loads of chances to get out and do a perm locally when there's no calendar event on.
Nice badge as well  :smug:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 07, 2012, 11:53:12 am
last chance for the Sussex Corker this year; with two other rides in July (albeit in Kent) it's getting a bit crowded;

anyone want to volunteer for a West Sussex / Hants based perm?

anybody wanting to use the IOW Randonnee as a DIY please PM me for controls
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 22, 2012, 09:57:55 pm
I'm pleased to report that the 2012 Lasham Loop has now been added to the series as a welcome Hampshire event to fill the void left by the Faccombe Haul; and anyone who rode it will be retrospectively credited as a qualifier  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Jonah on April 02, 2012, 09:54:31 am
Hills and Mills  :thumbsup:
Mad Jacks  :thumbsup:
Invicta Grimpeur  :thumbsup:
Tour of the Sussex Hills  :thumbsup:

One more for the highly coveted 'Grimpeurs du Sud' badge.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 02, 2012, 12:40:16 pm
One more for the highly coveted 'Grimpeurs du Sud' badge.

The Down to Downs route, available as a permanent, is wonderful at this time of year.  I rode it yesterday and the views of the North Downs and over Ashdown Forest were magnificent.  There is enough greenery to make the scenery feel alive, but not so much foilage on the trees as to obscure the views.

Despite the 1.75AAA it's rather a benign 110km: long, well graded climbs rather than the "short sharp" gradients on some of the other rides you mentioned.  Once you get Toys Hill and Vicarage Lane out of the way in the first 15km, the rest of the climbs are mostly harmless.

Other than a few stretches (the main exclusion being the road to Bough Beech after descending from Ide Hill) the Kent and Sussex road departments have been out and about laying down some lovely tarmac or patching up potholes.  The Ashdown forest roads and the descent to Groombridge, to name two in particular, are much improved in the past 12 months.

The only thing I think could be improved on the route is the short stretch of A21 on top of the North Downs, although this can be avoided by using the cycle path on the south side of the road (or, I suspect, but have not yet checked, by taking a detour on the back roads of Green St Green).

There's a steady flow of entrants to the ride, such that out of every month there is usually a couple of riders who do it, if you prefer to ride in company.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Jonah on April 03, 2012, 07:12:09 am
The Down to Downs route, available as a permanent, is wonderful at this time of year.  I rode it yesterday and the views of the North Downs and over Ashdown Forest were magnificent.  There is enough greenery to make the scenery feel alive, but not so much foilage on the trees as to obscure the views.

Sounds great - the others from CC Hackney and I were talking about doing a perm on Sunday
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 03, 2012, 08:45:12 pm
so I presume it's a chapeau to latest GdS Jonah  :thumbsup:

pre-paid (the way to go; don't lose out!) medal will be at the Elenydd  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Jonah on April 03, 2012, 09:23:15 pm
Hello Martin,

Have I done it?  Does last season's Hengists Hills last count?

best
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Jonah on April 03, 2012, 09:26:23 pm
I think I can see what the confusion might be? - my last post was partially quoted from Hillbilly's tips for a perm - I haven't ridden it myself
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 06, 2012, 02:22:10 pm
And yet another Down to Downs today; 1.75AAA from my front door does it get any better?

Ridiculously cold at 0700 when I left home; compounded by the only warm place in the start at Edenbridge (petrol station) being shut; tries the first few hills in the big ring in a vain attempt to warm up. Top Tip; Mc Donalds in Uckfield provides a perfect warm-up stop; otherwise Murco is quick and effective;

did it in reverse which was no easier (although Chuck Hatch seems shorter than Friars Gate) but Ide Hill and Star Hill were less brutal (but longer) than Toys and Brasted; the drag out of Green St Green is fine; the one up to Toys a bit more of a slog (was aiming for a train)

the bluebells are out on Ide Hill and gorse is in bloom on the Forest; now all we need is for some nice organiser to lay it on as a calendar event like last year....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 07, 2012, 07:59:28 am
the bluebells are out on Ide Hill and gorse is in bloom on the Forest; now all we need is for some nice organiser to lay it on as a calendar event like last year....

It's likely to run as a calendar event in April 2013.  Quaintways tea room closing suggests a tea stop at Bough Beech or thereabouts, but otherwise would be the same as the 2011 edition.

Off to ride the AAA Milne today, having read the article in a recent Arrivee to inspire me  8)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 07, 2012, 09:35:45 am
Essex B all finished, thanks, guys, for towing me round.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 09, 2012, 01:12:16 pm
I had forgotten what a tough little ride the AAA Milne is, particularly in its revised incarnation.

Starting in Edenbridge, the first 20km and last 20km is relatively quick for an AAA event.  The middle 60km not so much.  Particularly the suggested route from Forest Row to Mayfield - now via Five Ashes rather than Crowborough - a beautiful stretch of riding, but hard work given the constant ups and downs and twists and turns.  Still at least Kidds Hill is out of the way early on.

Compared to the similar length Down to Downs, I'm finding the AAAM means dropping 25% off the average speed.

Will be interesting to see how The Reliable compares.  Less AAA but cuts across the terrain of the tough bit of the AAAM.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 16, 2012, 09:45:09 am
Online entry for the Reliable available here

http://www.ukcyclist.org.uk/reliable-perm

will get a new gpx track on Saturday and add to the AUK page
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 21, 2012, 05:50:26 pm
new gpx for The Reliable here (avoiding the A22)

http://www.aukweb.net/gps/mm01g.zip

sooo tempted to run this as a summer calendar event
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ashaman42 on April 21, 2012, 09:08:37 pm
new gpx for The Reliable here (avoiding the A22)

http://www.aukweb.net/gps/mm01g.zip

sooo tempted to run this as a summer calendar event

Depending when you run it I will help and man a control or something. I could even bake a cake or two.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 21, 2012, 09:17:58 pm
was thinking next summer 2013 (and providing as much refreshments en route as the original RT it was based on ie zip unless you find laminated paper tasty)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ashaman42 on April 21, 2012, 09:31:36 pm
Fair enough. Well still happy to man a control and will eat the cake myself :D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Polepole on April 22, 2012, 10:12:49 pm
I rode this with Martin yesterday. It's the easiest GdS ride I've done so far and a really lovely route. No particularly nasty climbs at all ( and I don't do hills and am currently unfit due to a while off the bike). Most of the lumps are at the start. There is a nice flat bit in the middle and the final drag up to the finish isn't very much with only one very short but sharp lump at the end.

We mostly stayed dry, apart from one heavy downpour and saw lots of lambs and even a stag. 2 deer crossed the road in front of us. A great day out and a ride I will definately be repeating.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 23, 2012, 07:24:41 pm
I am likely to give the Reliable a try out this coming Saturday, weather permitting (by which I mean if the forecast suggests prolonged rain, I will skip it).  If anyone is tempted by the event and would like to ride in the company of a somewhat out of shape but still functioning audax adonis*, then PM me (and get your entry off to Martin, if you haven't got a card in the drawer).  I may ask you to pose for select photographs that will be included in a specialist magazine not available over the counter, read by men (and some women) who gather in car parks at ungodly hours to mutually enjoy unnatural acts of physical exertion**


*opinions differ on this point
**Arrivee, as I intend to write an article about the permanent, given Martin took time to write about the AAA Milne.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Jonah on April 25, 2012, 03:43:41 pm
One more for the highly coveted 'Grimpeurs du Sud' badge.

The Down to Downs route, available as a permanent, is wonderful at this time of year.  I rode it yesterday and the views of the North Downs and over Ashdown Forest were magnificent.  There is enough greenery to make the scenery feel alive, but not so much foilage on the trees as to obscure the views.

Despite the 1.75AAA it's rather a benign 110km: long, well graded climbs rather than the "short sharp" gradients on some of the other rides you mentioned.  Once you get Toys Hill and Vicarage Lane out of the way in the first 15km, the rest of the climbs are mostly harmless.

Other than a few stretches (the main exclusion being the road to Bough Beech after descending from Ide Hill) the Kent and Sussex road departments have been out and about laying down some lovely tarmac or patching up potholes.  The Ashdown forest roads and the descent to Groombridge, to name two in particular, are much improved in the past 12 months.

The only thing I think could be improved on the route is the short stretch of A21 on top of the North Downs, although this can be avoided by using the cycle path on the south side of the road (or, I suspect, but have not yet checked, by taking a detour on the back roads of Green St Green).

There's a steady flow of entrants to the ride, such that out of every month there is usually a couple of riders who do it, if you prefer to ride in company.
I plan to do the Down to Downs next Wednesday - how does one gain entry?  Do I request the route from Martin??
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 25, 2012, 05:31:05 pm
I plan to do the Down to Downs next Wednesday - how does one gain entry?  Do I request the route from Martin??

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/WW07/

Postal entry (with SAE and cheque) as per link on AUK website.  The organiser is now aware that you are thinking of entering and so will keep an eye out for the envelope, returning the blank brevet etc as soon as.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Jonah on April 25, 2012, 07:07:03 pm
Thanks Hillbilly,
I'll post it on Friday
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 25, 2012, 08:19:55 pm
I'm pleased to report that The Reliable is now worth 1.75AAA;

(and you can see the sea!)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on May 06, 2012, 08:32:46 pm
Not GdS unless you do it back-to-back, but a heads up that the Box Hill climb on the Surrey Hills permanent route is now super awesome, as the entire length has been laid with some of the best fresh tarmac I've cycled on for some time.  A pleasure up and down.  All hail our Olympic overlords, for they reach areas that our humble votes do not.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Manotea on May 06, 2012, 08:35:57 pm
They took all the 'traffic calming' a.k.a. death traps, cyclists, for the use of, out of Richmond Park a year back. I hope they get round to doing the hairpin at the top of Combe Lane as well.

It's amazing how one's appreciation of a road surface varies depending on whether you are going up or down the hill...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on May 08, 2012, 02:06:52 pm
Route sheet doesn't suggest going up that lane, as it's a wee bit off route.  I recall that road as being a bit of a hidden gem: of the 7 or so alternative on-road ascents of Leith Hill, that's one of the tougher ones.

I've taken to varying the Surrey Hills route I do.  Currently includes diverting via Holmwood St Marys and Peaslake (rather than bashing along the B road to/from Cranleigh) and avoids climbing the 21% to Winterfold by using the alternative climb through Farleigh Green.  Adds a few Km, but the time limit is generous enough to allow a little meandering, depending on mood.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 16, 2012, 12:16:32 pm
Chapeau to Grimpeuse # 3 Jillian Holford  :thumbsup: (and Simon H too)

a new sub-award GdSRTY is now available; same as RRTY any 12 qualifying rides in consecutive months; the usual suspects likely to be first

http://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on May 16, 2012, 05:36:45 pm
Great photos, well done to all.

Not sure who that bloke is standing around in blue and orange..  8)

Great photo of MJ's with John and Dave Marshall controlling.  :thumbsup:

MJ
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 26, 2012, 09:54:09 pm
and well done to Polepole for her 2nd GdS today on another superb Reliable; likely to be a calendar event in summer 2013
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on June 04, 2012, 07:06:17 pm
Just did my first test ride at audax pace of the Kidds Toys route.  No bones about it, this is a ride at the tougher end of the GdS spectrum - whilst it's possible I've not fully recovered from riding the Tour du Corse last month and an accompanying post holiday cold, the KT has left me a wee bit sore and not a little drained.  That said, it has a fair chunk of lovely cycling, similar to the Down to Downs in feel but with more hulking gradients.

I am now intruiged what the Weald Explorer 200 will be like at audax pace, given it is essentially the Kidds Toys with an extra 100km of lumpy stuff.  I'll find out in a couple of weeks   :-X
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 04, 2012, 07:34:41 pm
any sign of the Round Weald 200 becoming a perm soon?

I've added Surrey Secrets (Weybridge 1.75AAA or Betchworth AAAtba start) as a GPS DIY only qualifier; please email for details
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on June 04, 2012, 08:52:56 pm
The current plan is to have a GdS eligible 200 (likely to be the Weald Explorer, as it's difficult to construct an AAA rated event in the SE of that distance with no info controls, which is a current requirement for new BR perms) in place as a permanent in time for the new AUK season.  Possibly before then, depending on work commitments.  The main thing for me to do is ensure that controls in Swanley and Hayes work sensibly, despite them being relatively main towns.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 26, 2012, 10:13:29 pm
Chapeau to latest GdS Jonah (and possibly the first fixer; although the award will only be ratified by a successful ascent of Cob Lane)

and we have a new category; Grimpeur du Vectis, currently being pursued by Islander David W
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Phixie on June 27, 2012, 04:57:42 pm
He, too, (David W) has recently invested in a FWC card, though it won't be clear from his entries to you which machine was used, unless he mentions it.

Chapeau to both guys.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Jonah on June 30, 2012, 11:04:20 am
akin described the GRIMPEURS DU SUD badge as being analogous to the 'faberge egg'; which it certainly is.

It's on the Carradice.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 30, 2012, 03:30:33 pm
akin described the GRIMPEURS DU SUD badge as being analogous to the 'faberge egg'; which it certainly is.

especially as there are not that many left as some people have taken to collecting one for each year. Or even every 5 rides!

and even less of the Gold variety (another one is likely to be given away; yes that's right, given away next weekend)

(https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/_/rsrc/1338895717190/home/GrimpeursduSudLogo.jpg)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on July 02, 2012, 01:12:30 pm
Rode the Reliable yesterday.  A very nice rural route through the heart of Sussex, which offers a real contrast to my own events.  I found it hilly in the first 65 km, with a handful of climbs that had the front wheel dancing off the tarmac, but with a decent stretch (15km or so) of flat stuff on the southern edge that helped to claw back some time.  The last 15km was a bit of a rollercoaster, but not horrendously so.  I suspect I'll ride it again later this year or sometime next, when it will hopefully be less breezy and the roads a little drier.

I've started to outline an article for Arrivee, albeit it includes the Reliable as one ride of several (the focus is on events in the South East and how it offers attractive, varied and enjoyable cycling).

Now pondering whether to enter the Crown and/or the White Hill grimpeur that are being run over the next month or so, in the name of "research" as well as "enjoyment". [Edit: Crown entered, decision pending on WHG]
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on July 07, 2012, 12:30:48 pm
According to Met Office / BBC looks like the weather may behave tomorrow.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 07, 2012, 04:05:49 pm
and the series claims its first two GdSRTY  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on July 08, 2012, 07:43:47 pm
According to Met Office / BBC looks like the weather may behave tomorrow.
And wasn't it lovely? Here is Martin waiting with goodies at the finish and sheltering from the blistering sun in his gazebo which (he says) he put up all by himself.

(http://rock.fingerpost.com/fip-pages/icons/martin_gazebo.jpg)

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 08, 2012, 11:05:57 pm
the Magick Gazebo TM worked in scaring off the rain clouds for a while. We had an impressive 14/19 starters on the day who all finished with few visitations; Brunch Baps seemed to go down very well  :P

It's with great sadness that I'm giving up the Corker as it does some great lanes and stiff climbs with fantastic views on a good day; I have the gpx and route sheet if anyone wants to do it for a hard but very satisfying DIY

but it will be replaced next summer, probably with a calendar version of The Reliable
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on July 09, 2012, 08:44:13 am
Many thanks Martin.

Apart from the first 30km the weather did behave although the initial rain made the descents a bit more challenging. The sun was out for the climb up to Goodwood to make the most of the views and it was a decent day after that. I think this was my fourth or fifth Corker (2 under Mr H) and it was good to tick off the climbs in the last 30 km, Glen Lea, Tennysons Lane, Quell Lane and Bexley Hill.
 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PaulOlmo on July 09, 2012, 11:32:24 pm

Hello everyone, looking forward to seeing you all for The Crown on Sunday - let's not talk about the weather eh? Still possible to accommodate a few more if you're still dithering, but we have a healthy sized field as it stands.

As some of you know, I've been off the bike for a while this year after puncturing a lung so haven't been grunting up too many hills recently - but rest assured I've personally checked the route - and even thrown my mobile phone away somewhere along the route for some added interest for a lucky finder! (clue: somewhere between Dover and Hawkinge).

Paul
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on July 10, 2012, 08:40:20 am
...and even thrown my mobile phone away somewhere along the route for some added interest for a lucky finder! (clue: somewhere between Dover and Hawkinge).
Did you chuck it away to save weight? Then, between Dover and Hawkinge, I can think of two places it might be...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on July 15, 2012, 04:16:19 pm
Missed the crown this morning in order that i could properly test part of my 200km (Around Weald).

I really do have a treat lined up for you grimpeur fans.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on July 15, 2012, 05:29:16 pm
Missed the crown this morning in order that i could properly test part of my 200km (Around Weald).

I really do have a treat lined up for you grimpeur fans.
That really does sound ominous.

Here is PaulOlmo at the St Margaret's Bay control (thanks to Paul and helpers!) at today's Crown:

(http://rock.fingerpost.com/fip-pages/icons/PaulAtStMargs.jpg)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Teapot on July 15, 2012, 05:45:53 pm
Quote from: aregister link=topic=1254.msg1272325#msg1272325

Here is PaulOlmo at the St Margaret's Bay control (thanks to Paul and helpers!) at today's Crown:


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Did anyone notice the torso less legs in tights on the extreme left of Andrew's picture?Were they self supporting?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on July 15, 2012, 06:01:28 pm
It was good to have a dry day at last although the recent heavy rain had washed a lot of debris onto the lanes. It wasn't long (4Km) before I punctured, a big piece of flint had lodged itself into the front tyre.

Caught up with Cyklisten just before the first checkpoint and rode round with him which was mutually beneficial as I knew the route and he was in better shape than me.

Some good views from the White Cliffs on the way to St Ms but what was noticeable was the the lack of wind on the cliff top road on the return leg. I was prepared to sit behind Cyklisten on this section but when I noticed the lack of wind I done a few nominal turns on the front.

Started to feel better the longer the ride went on and once Kingsmill Down was behind us it was just the Hastingleigh climb then downhill (well mostly) to the finish.

Many thanks to Paul and helpers for a great day.

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Cyklisten on July 15, 2012, 11:54:41 pm
The opening kilometres of this one were like a scene from today's Tour de France with punctures left right and centre though tacks weren't the cause! Liberal scatterings of gravel and sharp flints had whittled away a the 'peleton' as I worked my way through (faffing in the car park and a recalcitrant GPS conspired to make me Lanterne Rouge from the off). The Crown has always been a favourite ride of mine and I was pleased when Paul first mentioned reviving it after it went missing from the calendar. A minor change to accommodate a new Start/Finish (at a rather swish Scout Hut) but basically the same ride as devised by Pat C and what better way to ride it than with the man himself?! I passed Pat as he was fixing a punctured front tyre and we teamed up at the next control. His rear tyre was in good shape as I can testify having spent a good deal of the ride glued to it! His 'nominal' efforts on the front had me close to the 'red zone' (especially on the way back) but I was grateful for his extensive local knowledge. Not just for directions (I know the route quite well) but for details "careful on this next bend" etc.
The scenery (both kinds) was splendid and the weather was kind (not too hot - ideal for climbing :thumbsup:) with no rain  :o 
Many thanks to Paul and the team for a well organised day out! Now, where are my compression tights?  ;D
 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PaulOlmo on July 16, 2012, 04:18:14 pm

The Crown.

Here's a link to the best of the photos taken at the last control at Kingsmill Down. Enjoy.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/39575473@N02/sets/72157630603906770/

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: fixillated on July 16, 2012, 08:43:03 pm
Excellent weather, an interesting route and soup at the finish. Thanks for all those (esp. the first) to Paul and his helpers.
Next time I won't try to smile when I spot the photographer, it doesn't work. Maybe I should claim that I was admiring the view behind me in my wing-mirror.
Who else mistook the parked car a bit further down for the control and hoped the pain would end there?
I claim it as my first high-speed audax as I took the extremely fast train from St Pancras to Ashford International. A bit anxious whether Eurostar rules for bike transport applied but ample room for two audax bikes in the usual wheelchair space.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 19, 2012, 01:40:06 pm
I'll be putting the finishing touches to my proposed MSH based "Cob and Hob" perm on Saturday; worth at least 2.25AAA maybe more. East Grinstead or Devils Dyke (google Hob) start.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on July 19, 2012, 04:31:10 pm
+1 - 1 = 0.

Look forward to it, as I rather like the MSH.  It also means I won't feel guilty retiring one of my grimpeur perms (or possibly merging the two 100s I currently have into one). A net gain of 0.5AAA points though.

Albeit with a further 3.25AAA from my 200km perm, when registered.  So a net gain of 3.75AAA.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 19, 2012, 06:59:13 pm
Chapeau to latest GdS Nick Davison; he was wondering how to go about obtaining proof of doing the IoW Randonnee until I bumped into   
him at one of the controls
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 21, 2012, 09:46:40 pm
+1 - 1 = 0.

Look forward to it, as I rather like the MSH.  .

Naah; too hard; nice views but you might as well forgoe the AAA ride another 65k and do the Ditchling Devil; easier. Anyone who wants a painful 2.5AAA DIY apply here
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on July 22, 2012, 07:01:01 am
Had jolly good fun sweating around the southern half of the Around Weald route. Some stiff climbs but interspersed with some fast stretches to allow those worried about the clock an opportunity to get some time in the bank.  I actually really like how this route has panned out and so it will definitely be converted into a permanent as well.

[Also found my smartphone app "Whip It", which is motion activated, had a rather appropriate knack of playing a whip cracking sound effect as my saddlebag swung around due to grimping up some of the steeper climbs  ;D ]
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 02, 2012, 11:02:17 pm
And 2 more GdS to add Jonathan W and Nicola S; gonna need to order some more badges at this rate

The Reliable will make its calendar debut on Sat 25th May 2013; entry a rock bottom £2 including some food and drink :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 06, 2012, 05:45:27 pm
Rode the Kidds Toys route again on Saturday.  Route sheet finalised and will be made available later this week.  It's a challenging route, but (in my humble opinion) is the best 100km route with AAA points I could have come up with in the South East.  I am rather proud of it and was genuinely excited riding round anticipating the experience of those who will be soaking it in at the end of the month.

Around Weald is attracting a healthy stream of entries, more than I expected.  To the extent that both it (and by extension Kidds Toys, which is the Around Weald without the jaunt from Mayfield to Battle) have crept up from basic events.  Although still not yet to the extent of putting on a hall - a pub finish is still on the cards.  I suspect the 200 is going to be many riders' hardest ride this year, at least in the South East, and not to be underestimated.  But fun and with some seriously good cycling.

Don't be shy entering - the more of you there are, the better it will be.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 06, 2012, 08:56:57 pm
to confirm; along with the AUK change of season dates the GdS will be moving to a Jan 1st to Dec 31st calendar from err last November. It made no sense having 2 calendar events at the beginning of the season and then none for 3 months
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 07, 2012, 08:54:52 pm
I rode Kidd's Toys as a DIY today as I'll be riding the 200 on the day;

it's a tough but very rewarding route with views from Ashdown Forest, the North Downs both ways (I saw the QE bridge) the Greensand Ridge and just general lovely Southern scenery  :)

students of Billy's perms Down to Downs and AAA Milne will find some familiar roads but also a few surprises including a revered hill from another popular GdS won't spoil the surprise, and lots of flat stuff to recover.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 13, 2012, 07:55:05 pm
Who's up for Tour of the Hills? one of the flagship GdS rides (of the 100s) Not ridden it for 7 years; never seem to be in the country until this year, and the route has changed since I last rode (dumbed down?)

I'll be ECE'ing for hopefully even more AAAs  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: fixillated on August 13, 2012, 08:12:19 pm
Who's up for Tour of the Hills?

I'll be there, still a few GdS rides short of the season's target.

Could be quite a warm day.

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 13, 2012, 08:52:26 pm
Formal email to go out later this week, but for those interested in things Kidds Toys/Around Weald Expedition-ary, the routesheets and GPS tracklogs have been uploaded to the event pages in the calendar on the Audax UK website.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: contango on August 15, 2012, 03:39:17 pm
the Magick Gazebo TM worked in scaring off the rain clouds for a while. We had an impressive 14/19 starters on the day who all finished with few visitations; Brunch Baps seemed to go down very well  :P

It's with great sadness that I'm giving up the Corker as it does some great lanes and stiff climbs with fantastic views on a good day; I have the gpx and route sheet if anyone wants to do it for a hard but very satisfying DIY

but it will be replaced next summer, probably with a calendar version of The Reliable

I wanted to ride it this year but muddled the calendar, and entries were closed the evening before the ride. I'd love to see the route sheet and GPX, maybe ride it as a perm.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 16, 2012, 12:52:13 pm
the Magick Gazebo TM worked in scaring off the rain clouds for a while. We had an impressive 14/19 starters on the day who all finished with few visitations; Brunch Baps seemed to go down very well  :P

It's with great sadness that I'm giving up the Corker as it does some great lanes and stiff climbs with fantastic views on a good day; I have the gpx and route sheet if anyone wants to do it for a hard but very satisfying DIY

but it will be replaced next summer, probably with a calendar version of The Reliable

I wanted to ride it this year but muddled the calendar, and entries were closed the evening before the ride. I'd love to see the route sheet and GPX, maybe ride it as a perm.

 no problemo, please PM us your email  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Redlight on August 16, 2012, 01:31:03 pm
Formal email to go out later this week, but for those interested in things Kidds Toys/Around Weald Expedition-ary, the routesheets and GPS tracklogs have been uploaded to the event pages in the calendar on the Audax UK website.

Just got back from holiday - is there still time to enter if I can get a pass?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 16, 2012, 01:53:40 pm
Plenty of time.

Entries will be available on the line (on a first come first served basis).  If you book by PayPal or post, then you get a guaranteed entry (provided we don't reach 50, which is the strict rider limit for each event and is the number of cards I've ordered for each).

Currently have 29 for AWE and 22 for Kidds Toys, so may have been a bit ambitious in ordering 50 cards for each.  But happy to be proved wrong  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Redlight on August 16, 2012, 04:14:45 pm
Thanks. I will work out which I'm capable of riding (having hardly done any distance this year). The last ride of yours that I did (the hilly one that started at Edenbidge and went straight up York Hill to warm us up) was one of the most enjoyable 100kms that I've done, so I shall look forward to whichever I choose.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 16, 2012, 05:46:46 pm
It might help you to know that AWE is essentially Kidds Toys with added legs up to Keston (from Edenbridge and then to Forest Row) at the start and to Battle (from Mayfield and to Groombridge).  Those two "additional" bits are perhaps the easier ones across both rides, although the Keston leg does have a somewhat iconic climb up White Lane (this appears in the "100 Greatest Climbs" book).

In other words, the tough kernel of the rides is essentially the Kidds Toys.  The extra bits for randonneurs with ambitions for a 200 are such that they should be able to gather a little bit of time (albeit the Kidds Toys has a lower minimum speed of, from memory, 12kph rather than 14.3kph).

You'll be pleased to know that, in my opinion, Kidds Toys trumps Down to Downs.  But then again I might simply be enamoured of the "new kidd on the block"
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: fixillated on August 19, 2012, 08:38:54 pm
Who's up for Tour of the Hills? one of the flagship GdS rides (of the 100s) Not ridden it for 7 years; never seem to be in the country until this year, and the route has changed since I last rode (dumbed down?)

Didn't feel easier than last year  and those Surrey hills are still pretty tough. They start gently but hold something back till just before the summit.

Thanks to Don and his helpers, it was a lovely day.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 19, 2012, 09:18:59 pm
nothing dumbed down today; the Hills in their full glory horror including Barhatch Lane at the end rather than the (almost) beginning;

not helped by making it into my first ECE 200 GdS  ::-). Ann was on a mission for Ladies' gold and left us for dead (almost literally in that heat!) on the last hill but I got in for Men's silver with 1 min to spare

lovely ride many thanks Don and your helpers; very much a flagship GdS event  :thumbsup:

so Hillbilly; you got even more pain for us next weekend?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: contango on August 19, 2012, 09:21:33 pm
Who's up for Tour of the Hills? one of the flagship GdS rides (of the 100s) Not ridden it for 7 years; never seem to be in the country until this year, and the route has changed since I last rode (dumbed down?)

Didn't feel easier than last year  and those Surrey hills are still pretty tough. They start gently but hold something back till just before the summit.

Thanks to Don and his helpers, it was a lovely day.

It certainly was, at least as far as the organisation was concerned. The thunderstorm part way through didn't quite fall into "lovely day" territory. The hills seemed to get more and more brutal as the ride progressed, and the sun was a bit too intense for my liking.

I particularly liked the way the first control worked to avoid bunching, and the way all the controls were so clearly visible from the road so there was no chance of whizzing past them. I'd hate to go a long way down one of those descents and then realise I had to go back up to get my card stamped.

TotH was my first ever grimpeur, and for all it hurt towards the end, for all I struggled to understand how I could drink two gallons of water during the day and still be dehydrated, and for all I got leg cramps walking up the last hill, I'm glad I completed it.

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 20, 2012, 07:03:28 am
Quote
so Hillbilly; you got even more pain for us next weekend?

There are a couple of lumps here or there.  More pleasure, less pain.

I did a DIY100 in the Surrey Hills on Saturday.  It was tough but amazing climbing. I'd forgotten how much I enjoy the double whammy of Barhatch and the Whitedown via Hoe Lane.  And the views were mighty fine around most of the route, but particularly from Ranmore, Box Hill, Leith Hill and Pitch Hill.  The South East is sometimes maligned by those who go by the stereotype of the region as little more than a commuter belt, forgetting that Surrey is the most wooded part of the UK and there are AONBs and National Parks aplenty to provide great cycling territory.

Box Hill was a procession of cyclists living the dream.  From the ubermenschen on their carbon ultra bikes, to (more pleasingly) apparent beginners giving it a go on whatever bike was at hand.  The National Trust servery looked like a refugee camp for lycra clad (flab) fighters, fleeing from a mid-riff tyre-anny.

Speed bumps go back onto Box Hill this week, diminishing what has been a wonderful strip of tarmac that has been a real pleasure to twiddle up over the past 3 months or so.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on August 20, 2012, 08:06:15 am
That was a tough one,made a lot tougher by the heat. I've ridden the event about 3 or 4 times but the last time being 2008 and the route has changed since then so I was familiar with most of the climbs but not what order they came in.

A good mix of local club riders, Audaxers and plenty of GdSers in attendance made it an very enjoyable ride.     
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PaulOlmo on August 20, 2012, 09:39:49 am

ToH - ooh that was a tuffy, but managed to get up the final assault without stopping, and slipped into "silver" with 5 mins to spare. I don't think we'd have been into the gold bracket even without the puncture and the faffage with my maptrap that decided to unseat itself hald way around. Been a while since I rode it and I don't remember the previous route well but I thought this was a more natural line.

Nice to meet fellow GdSers along the way. BIt disappointed that we missed the main rain shower - would have been nice for a cooling off - but caught all the puddles later down the road so still got completely covered in mud.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Cyklisten on August 20, 2012, 10:15:20 am
Yes, tough indeed. I started with PatC but it wasn't long before his 'Mountain Goat' rhythm kicked in (I've learned to recognise and be wary of it!), which put me on the limit. He was already 'in the groove' as we climbed Box Hill (The Zig Zag) with its various 'Kiss my Cav' 'Cav 4 PM' markings but it was on White Down where the elastic snapped. I bonked badly and shortly after took refuge under trees as the heavens opened accompanied by thunder and lightening (it wasn't supposed to do that- no rain jacket!). I was feeling pretty ropey and almost (only almost!) considered packing but an image of Lizzie Armitstead winning silver in the rain went through my head, so I limped over the next lump and stopped at the hall for food which did the trick and I was soon back on form riding alone and see-sawing with a gruppetto from Gregarious Superclub Ciclista. I can remember that mouthful clearly as on one climb they sidled up and the leader swung in front of me while the others boxed me in providing a very strong draft to the top - thank you gents!
It was a hard ride for me mainly due to lack of proper eating in the days leading up to it, but enjoyable nonetheless. Good to see the Usual Audax Suspects at the start and the many racer boys out on the road. Apart from our ride, there were cyclists everywhere of all denominations - Roadies, MTB'ers, families, the lot - really good to see. Oddly enough the motoring fraternity were pretty well behaved with only one miscreant who couldn't spare a couple of seconds for safety's sake - I have you on video, matey!
Strange how, on a Grimpeur, your thoughts of  'how many more climbs?' turn to "is that it?' when the last one is done and you are zooming down to the finish!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: JordanCarroll on August 20, 2012, 11:21:01 am
My first AAA classified event! Was a great ride, and certainly tough. How do you guys think that stacks up to the majority of other 100km rides? Easy/average/hard?

Managed to grab a silver, 12mins off the gold time so definitely not a near miss but something to aim for next time :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 20, 2012, 11:55:39 am
My first AAA classified event! Was a great ride, and certainly tough. How do you guys think that stacks up to the majority of other 100km rides? Easy/average/hard?

hardest in the South by a long chalk due to the severity and length of some of the climbs. You know it's hard when you look back and think of the zig zag as the easiest climb.

Kidds Toys and the Mid Sussex Olympic should give it a run for its money but still easier
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 20, 2012, 01:31:28 pm
Anything in the Surrey Hills will tend to be on the harder side of rides in the South East.  Mainly because the climbing is so concentrated, so the sweat rushes come thick and fast.  I suspect this is due to the proximity of the North Downs and Greensands in that ("my") part of the world.  The climbs are also hard, often with 10%+ over extended stretches.

This comes at the cost, however, of lots of fiddly controls and infos.  It means routes through the area are too bitty for my liking.  Hence why I've only ridden TotH once (in 2005) despite being one of the more "active" grimpeurs in the SE.  I much prefer the rhythm of routes further east, which are almost as challenging but without the sense of claustrophobia and deja vu I get if I spend more than 50km in the Surrey Hills.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 20, 2012, 01:33:03 pm
hardest in the South by a long chalk

Challenge accepted!

No holds barred...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: contango on August 20, 2012, 01:55:34 pm
My first AAA classified event! Was a great ride, and certainly tough. How do you guys think that stacks up to the majority of other 100km rides? Easy/average/hard?

Managed to grab a silver, 12mins off the gold time so definitely not a near miss but something to aim for next time :)

I've only done a few 100s but the Tour was the hardest of them by a huge margin.

By the time I reached the top of Box Hill my average speed was slightly over 20kph so I thought I might be in with a chance of a medal. Then came the other hills, that made The Zig Zag look like little more than a bump in the ground and any hopes of a medal vanished. By the end of it I just wanted to cross the finishing line within the time limit.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 20, 2012, 02:17:23 pm
hardest 100 in the South by a long chalk

Challenge accepted!

No holds barred...

are you planning a 100 Surrey Hills perm? I'm toying with the idea of a 66km local 1.25AAA one; Ashdown Forest twice but as befits my useless climbing ability nothing too gratuitous
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 20, 2012, 04:47:58 pm
hardest 100 in the South by a long chalk

Challenge accepted!

No holds barred...

are you planning a 100 Surrey Hills perm? I'm toying with the idea of a 66km local 1.25AAA one; Ashdown Forest twice but as befits my useless climbing ability nothing too gratuitous

Probably a combination of North Downs (White Lane/Titsey and Chalkpit spring to mind) and Surrey Hills (with the "bridge" between the two via Clandon / Hooley / Chipstead / Epsom / Ranmore Common).  That bridge would include the Whitehill Lane or Hilltop Lane.  Barhatch and Whitedown would by in the Surrey Hills bit, perhaps also with Pitch Hill and probably the obligatory Leith.  Box Hill on the way back.  I've ridden bits of it but never together.  If you get a DIY that covers that territory, you'll know what I'm up to.

My other idea was half a dozen crossings of the North Downs (and Ide and Toys).  Was going to name it "Up N Downs").
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 20, 2012, 05:18:14 pm
Addendum: my DIY at the weekend was trying out a variant of the Surrey Hills permanent boosted up to 100km.  I have a vague notion that an HQ in Box Hill, with two loops (one clockwise and one anti-clockwise) of my Surrey Hills route would be the kid of perverse fun that audax legends are made of.  Checkpoint in Coldharbour, and infos on Ranmore Common, Coombe Lane and Pitch Hill, and a cafe control in Cranleigh.  115km and something like 2500m of climb, if my GPS is to be believed.

This is still a possibility, as I think I can crank it up a notch form the route I did on Saturday (and which my legs are still reminding me about, although that pain was not eased by a "recovery" ride on Sunday, which just happened to do the North bit of the Kidds Toys, just for fun as it is such a lovely route).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Manotea on August 20, 2012, 05:21:24 pm
hardest 100 in the South by a long chalk

Challenge accepted!

No holds barred...

are you planning a 100 Surrey Hills perm? I'm toying with the idea of a 66km local 1.25AAA one; Ashdown Forest twice but as befits my useless climbing ability nothing too gratuitous

Probably a combination of North Downs (White Lane/Titsey and Chalkpit spring to mind) and Surrey Hills (with the "bridge" between the two via Clandon / Hooley / Chipstead / Epsom / Ranmore Common).  That bridge would include the Whitehill Lane or Hilltop Lane.  Barhatch and Whitedown would by in the Surrey Hills bit, perhaps also with Pitch Hill and probably the obligatory Leith.  Box Hill on the way back.  I've ridden bits of it but never together.  If you get a DIY that covers that territory, you'll know what I'm up to.

My other idea was half a dozen crossings of the North Downs (and Ide and Toys).  Was going to name it "Up N Downs").

Adding Tanhurst Lane - sadly omitted from the new TotH - would make for a special treat.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 20, 2012, 05:28:21 pm
Good call.  Meets the "no holds barred" rule.

I made the mistake of descending off Leith Hill via Tanhurst on Saturday and suspect it would have been more fun (and less effort) going in the opposite direction.  Proper audax lane, that wouldn't be out of place in the South West.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on August 20, 2012, 07:07:15 pm
My first AAA classified event! Was a great ride, and certainly tough. How do you guys think that stacks up to the majority of other 100km rides? Easy/average/hard?

hardest in the South by a long chalk due to the severity and length of some of the climbs. You know it's hard when you look back and think of the zig zag as the easiest climb.

Kidds Toys and the Mid Sussex Olympic should give it a run for its money but still easier

Not sure about that, I think a Mad Jack on a cold day is as equally challenging as a TOTH on a hot day. I would then put the Invicta Grimpeur slightly behind due to be 15/20 km shorter and with a little less climbing.

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Phixie on August 20, 2012, 10:12:57 pm
Adding Tanhurst Lane - sadly omitted from the new TotH - would make for a special treat.

That was probably the reason it was dropped when Tim reorganised the route.  Unless the local council has "refreshed" it, the road surface is almost all surface and hardly any road. Tractor tyres required.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 20, 2012, 10:22:32 pm
I believe we also have our first Grimpeurs du fixee Fixillated and Jonah :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 20, 2012, 10:46:56 pm
Didn't Werner claim last year?  He did enough D2D and AAA Milne perms to qualify and did it all on fixed.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: contango on August 20, 2012, 11:16:17 pm
hardest 100 in the South by a long chalk

Challenge accepted!

No holds barred...

are you planning a 100 Surrey Hills perm? I'm toying with the idea of a 66km local 1.25AAA one; Ashdown Forest twice but as befits my useless climbing ability nothing too gratuitous

Probably a combination of North Downs (White Lane/Titsey and Chalkpit spring to mind) and Surrey Hills (with the "bridge" between the two via Clandon / Hooley / Chipstead / Epsom / Ranmore Common).  That bridge would include the Whitehill Lane or Hilltop Lane.  Barhatch and Whitedown would by in the Surrey Hills bit, perhaps also with Pitch Hill and probably the obligatory Leith.  Box Hill on the way back.  I've ridden bits of it but never together.  If you get a DIY that covers that territory, you'll know what I'm up to.

My other idea was half a dozen crossings of the North Downs (and Ide and Toys).  Was going to name it "Up N Downs").

Adding Tanhurst Lane - sadly omitted from the new TotH - would make for a special treat.

A special treat? Like the way sharing your bath with a bucketful of electric eels is a special treat?

I thought I was long past the stage where my legs just physically had nothing more left to give going up a hill and even walking it was a struggle. I'll have to look up Tanhurst, is it steep or long or both?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 20, 2012, 11:33:28 pm
I'll have to look up Tanhurst, is it steep or long or both?

It's a nasty bastard of a climb.  Like Barhatch with attitude.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Manotea on August 20, 2012, 11:40:30 pm
I haven't been up Tanhurst for a while - in fact, being a rather inadequate fixer I've never actually ridden all the way up Tanhurst - but the thing that makes the lane a special treat is not that it is especially long or steep though it is both long and steep enough (20% max?) but the array of booby traps it contains for the unwary. At the bottom it's a fine open rising road then it turns to the right and steepens into a sort of vertical subterranean ditch running with water because there is a spring half way the lane up which has weathered away large large chunks of the tarmac and left what's treacherous and greasy. At this point though you are fully committed, focusing on controlling the bike and threading your way between the stones and potholes which you can now barely see because the tree cover has turned day into night. Alas alack, I inevitably stall on a stone or pothole and then its game over.

I could gear down I guess but where's the fun in that?

Edit: Tanhurst Lane (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&ion=1&biw=1400&bih=935&q=tanhurst+lane+surrey&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=0x4875c2b093ff6ecd:0xb2ccab6728d41d8b,Tanhurst+Ln,+Surrey+RH5&gl=uk&sa=X&ei=-74yUNK-CZGPswbzzoC4Dw&ved=0CBQQ8gEwAA)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: contango on August 20, 2012, 11:41:33 pm
I'll have to look up Tanhurst, is it steep or long or both?

It's a nasty bastard of a climb.  Like Barhatch with attitude.

Is it the one that goes up the same hill as Abinger Lane that was part of TotH this year? Looking at the map (specifically the contours) it looks like it goes up the west side rather than the south side of the hill, presenting a comparable gradient for a comparable distance.

Is there a different Tanhurst, or is there something about the road I'm missing?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 20, 2012, 11:51:35 pm
What you are missing is the road surface.  Like the road.  It is an experience. Memorable for all the wrong reasons.

If it ever gets resurfaced it will be not that bad.  Hard but manageable.  At the moment it is unruly: mad, bad and dangerous to know. I descended it on Saturday hoping its 20% slope will have been treated.  It had not, and I was afeared.

Not worth the effort in my opinion.  The other climbs up leith hill (there are essentially 5 other ways up) are better.  One is perhaps tougher than Tanhurst, I think, but benefits from being well surfaced rather than a pitiful neglected track.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: contango on August 20, 2012, 11:56:55 pm
What you are missing is the road surface.  Like the road.  It is an experience. Memorable for all the wrong reasons.

Ah, that sounds like one I'm glad I avoided. I was a little uneasy with some of the descents on Sunday with patches of gravel in the middle of the road, and the odd patch of mud here and there on bends. Throwing in extra potholes sounds like no fun at all.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 21, 2012, 07:35:54 am
Yes, I would avoid until it is repaired. It is a potentially nice climb, with a gentle start that eventually gets vertical for the last 1km.  In spring it as peppered wiyth bluebells and there is a copse of rhodedendrons at the top, or at least there used to be.  Getting to the top, one can continue over towards Leith Hill car parks.  This road offers some of the most commanding and uplifting views of the Weald.

If you are in the area and want to do a ride, my Surrey Hills 50 permanent does the area proud.  Whilst there is a suggested route, I've set the minimum speed low enough to allow exploring.  I often riff off the classic route, sticking in random climbs and detours. 

I've got a DIY by GPS 100 that does the 50km anticlockwise and clockwise, that captures some of the better variants.  I'm happy to share. PM me if interested and I'll send a copy by email.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: fixillated on August 21, 2012, 07:43:18 am
Didn't Werner claim last year?  He did enough D2D and AAA Milne perms to qualify and did it all on fixed.
Enough to achieve Grimpeur d'Or last season but it took a bit longer to claim  the GdSRTY for fixed.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 21, 2012, 07:56:31 am
Thinking of a new one for 2013; GdSRRTY
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 21, 2012, 09:51:18 am
Will the madness never cease  :)

I think a RRTY based on hilly 200s in the SE would be a tough gig to complete.  Doesn't appeal to me, but there are some loons out there who relish that kind of thing.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 21, 2012, 01:33:35 pm
I think we are losing sight a bit of the aims of the GdS

"see the best of the region from the saddle"

whilst the TotH is a good peak season workout it's by no means the most scenic or even rewarding ride in the series, there are plenty of rides which have almost as much climbing with a lot less pain,

My personal and completely unbiased top 10 views (having climbed up) and the best rides to do them in the South are

1. Top of Ide Hill and the other bastard one looking South to Ide Hill (Down to Downs)
2. Ditchling Beacon (Mid Sussex Hiller/ Olympic)
3. Four Counties (AAA Milne)
4. Box Hill (Tour of the Hills)
5. Brightling Observatory (The Reliable)
6. Channel Tunnel and the Channel (The Crown)
7. the view back down from Fairlight (Mad Jack Fuller)
8. Exedown Hill (Invicta Grimpeur)
9. Mayfield from Rotherfield (Hills and Mills)
10. Blackgang looking westwards (IoW Randonnee)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 21, 2012, 03:31:17 pm
That's a point well made Martin.

Your top 10 is similar to mine, although I am partial to the views travelling north through Knatts Valley on the road to Eynsford.  As riders on the Kidds Toys and the Around Weald will experience on Sunday. It gives great panoramic views of the Thames estuary, with the City standing in the distance; a real life incarnation of the opening credits of Eastenders.

Also the views from Box Hill and Leith Hill of the Mole Valley.

But it is sometimes the unexpected ones that, in the right light or mood, that linger.  Usually with views of hills in the background, and the sun starting to set.  Simple pleasures, such as the descent into the valley after Penshurst on the Down to Downs, or the views to the South Downs on the Reliable.  Or the teasing sight of Ashdown Forest when ascending to the ridge from Friars Gate, which opens out into the views over Four Counties on reaching the T junction at the top of a long, but well graded, climb.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: StevieB on August 21, 2012, 03:53:21 pm
... a tough gig to complete.  Doesn't appeal to me, ...

... plenty of rides ... with a lot less pain...

Gents, I wanted to applaud your restraint! (You had me worried!)

Steve (suffering from post-TOTHitis)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on August 21, 2012, 08:41:44 pm
My fantasy GdS ride would include-

Climbs -Chuck Hatch (love the view at the top),a few of the rolling coastal sections from the Crown including the Crete Road East climb and the bit around Dover Castle, Toys Hill from the south, Hogtrough Hill including the long descent after, Star Hill, Willingford Lane,the climb to Goodwood from the Corker, a mid point control on Firle Beacon and the finish on Box Hill so riders can enjoy the view while winding down. 

Descents- Exedown Hill, River Hill, Toys Hill descending northwards, Gangers Hill

and a few scenic undulating sections in between.

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 23, 2012, 09:22:03 am
I am in two minds about whether to permify Kidds Toys, as I would then be offering three 100s, which might be viewed as variations on a theme.  One option I'm toying with is changing the AAA Milne into a 50km ride, to give variety

taking my name then diluting it so it's no longer a GdS; I feel a ceremonial stripping of a GdS medal coming on  ;)

I've got a new 66km 1.25AAA DIY from East Grinstead that will fit the bill nicely, if I make it into a perm I'll call it Forest Fords (it does 3)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Redlight on August 26, 2012, 08:11:23 pm
Home from the Kidds Toys 120km - what a great ride! Chapeau to Hillbilly for fitting in so many "interesting" climbs while keeping us almost entirely away from main roads. The good weather meant that The Wall was a Lycra-fest but others such as the gentle ascent out of Under River (northbound) were quiet enough for me to hear my heart rate monitor telling me I was technically in cardiac arrest.

It took me 7 hours and a bit to get around the 120km.  Good luck to all those on the 200 - we'll see them here tomorrow, perhaps  ;)

Great day out - recommended for all of a low geared disposition.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on August 27, 2012, 09:04:48 am
Kidds Toys- Really enjoyed this, the perfect weather made the most of the views and whilst the climbing was challenging it was never over the top. Highlights for me were the view from the top of Ashdown Forest (as always) and the snapshot of London from the heights above Eyrnsford- I always appreciate a good view as it makes the effort of climbing seem worthwhile.

Many thanks to Billy for all his efforts in putting on the rides. 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: JordanCarroll on August 27, 2012, 02:34:55 pm
thank you for all the replies regarding the relative difficulty of the TotH ride! I've been AWOL and forgot to check for responses
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 27, 2012, 05:23:13 pm
Did my Kidds Toys today, albeit registered as a DIY by GPS due to the pedantic rule that one cannot be deemed to ride two events on the same day (my organiser ride of the AWE next week will use up that slot).  I thanked the peeps at Groombridge, and they seemed pleased with yesterdays passing trade.  Great little pub/tea room, so am trying to keep in their good books.

On the way back I tried out a different descent off Toys Hill, and turns out it is significantly better than what riders went down yesterday, so that will feature in future editions.

Pity the verges were so overgrown, as it blocked out some of the views.

I had a couple of riders claim Kidds Toys was tougher than TotH.  I suspect it is just different, and depends on your mood on the day.  Nobody would have achieved gold standard if such a thing was awarded on the Kidds Toys, but that might be down to the way in which people controlled (much lingering in Mayfield, other than the riders that got back to Edenbridge first).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on August 27, 2012, 05:59:24 pm
Was only at the pub for 5 minutes or so, long enough to get a sticker, buy a drink and guzzle it down, but it seemed a really friendly place and not too busy to turn it's nose up at cyclists.

I would say that TOTH is a hilly ride while Kidds Toys is a ride with hills, if you see what I mean. Both offer a challenge but you get to see a whole lot more on Kidds Toys...enjoying the best of the region from the saddle and all that.   
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Phixie on August 27, 2012, 08:09:07 pm
Yes - a good pub at Groombridge with very friendly staff.  I spent about half an hour there chatting with the Lewes lads (mainly NOTP) as they lunched and before they suffered a couple of visitations.

Discussing the relative difficulties of TOTH and Kidds Toys with Daniele on the train, although the former seemed harder, both of us took longer to complete the latter   ???  Possibly steeper gradients in Surrey,  meaning slower ascents but faster descents, though there may be other reasons.  Each boasted the obligatory token fixer (Fixilated on TOTH who was on the AWE yesterday, but there was an unknown - to me - rider unwilling to freewheel on KT.)

Both were excellent rides, so very many thanks to Don and Billy for a couple of very fine days out.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 27, 2012, 08:35:23 pm
I've had a couple of enquiries about medals / badges (AUK terms not mine, a badge is something you pin on IMO)

The silver 25mm pin is available to anyone who completes 5 rides price £2.50 posted (or £2 direct from PatC or myself) you can buy as many as you like, probably going to order another 100 soon

the gold cloth badge is awarded free to anybody who has done 5 years of the award; or done Grimpeurs d'Or and a standard GdS in at least 3 separate years (ie 25 rides in total) you only get one there are about 20 left and WTGTG

as you were  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 27, 2012, 10:42:13 pm
but there was an unknown - to me - rider unwilling to freewheel on KT.)

It was his first audax.  He just got round within time.  Ended with a great line asking "are there flat events in the area" (or words to that effect). I got the impression that he found it a fair challenge.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 27, 2012, 10:47:39 pm
but there was an unknown - to me - rider unwilling to freewheel on KT.)

It was his first audax.  He just got round within time.  Ended with a great line asking "are there flat events in the area"

I presume you pointed him to the many 0AAA rides in the calendar?  ;)

a flat ride that goes to East Sussex would probably be several circuits of Pevensey Levels

there was one flat one; the Invicta 100 of 2000mumble which I rode a lot (for fun; no entry no nothing) before I got onto the AAA treadmill
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 27, 2012, 11:25:27 pm
I got the impression he will be back for more. One of the reasons he took so long was he was taking pictures as he went round.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 01, 2012, 01:33:13 pm
I'm planning two days of hilly fun next year that will be GdS eligible:

21 April - Surrey Hills (60km so not GdS unless ECE'd) and Surrey Thrills (120km).  Loosely based on my permanent route, with some extra hills thrown in.  Box Hill start/finish planned.  I'm investigating the hire of the village hall (back up plan is a car park start and pub finish).  I've done the 120km route as a permanent.  It's a nice route, but as hard as a viagra pumped priapism patient getting a lap dance. 

7 July - Around Weald Expedition (215km) and Kidds Toys (123km).  Basically the same routes as 2012, although might be some tweaks following helpful feedback.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 01, 2012, 08:58:51 pm
NB you can only ECE a calendar ride to a minimum 200km; and it wouldn't be GdS eligible unless you could show a 100km AAA section (would need to be by gps)

had some fun on the Surrey Secrets DIY today; much more benign than the TotH but still with the iconic climb of the Zig Zag (and the more brutal ascent of Pebble Hill earlier)

saw the whole cycling population of the South East on those hills today  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Grandad on September 01, 2012, 10:02:43 pm
Quote
and the more brutal ascent of Pebble Hill earlier
As a matter of interest when did Pebble Combe become Pebble Hill?  I noticed the new style name when riding it a few weeks ago for the first time since the 1950s
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mrs Blacksheep on September 02, 2012, 01:38:25 pm
Hello All,

Yes we all had a lovely ride yesterday (that's myself & Ann), meeting Martin in Costa where he gave me a YACF badge :).

We rode the ride and stayed dry all day novel for a summer ride this year.
I loved the route as I was brought up not far from Box Hill.  The manager of the bike shop
there, is someone I rode with when I was a member of the Surrey Roads CC in 1978.  So we had
to stop and call in to say hello.

I get a bit worried using my Garmin Etrex vista HCx  (called monster for short)
in case it does not record properly, but yesterday it did a grand job,
and renewed my confindence it the device.

I'll be back!!! As I now have 2 rides in the bag for one of those badges, and I need something
to keep my motivation going as I would like to get 180AAA's for my 11 month Audax year.

I'm smiling from ear to ear at the moment as last Sunday accompained by BlackSheep I took the ladies
AAA record set in 1998 with a total of 165AAA's.  :) :).  I've ridden mostly Stephen Poulton's perms as they are
local so keep cost and time to the minimum.  I have had a number of folk riding with me from time to time and all
have looked after me, having a wheel to follow is great.  But I also have a virtual back up team, via emails and text messages,
who have followed my adventures.  It has been a great cycling year.

Bfn Louise



Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: cover girl on September 03, 2012, 08:50:22 pm
Glad you enjoyed Surrey Secrets!  Though I'm thinking of renaming this version (with Box Hill) Surrey Not So Secret...

And not so benign either...  just think, two more metres and it's worth 2.25AAA – I'm sure I can find those for next time!

You MUST go for your five GdS rides this year Louise – those little red badges are just so adorable!  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 03, 2012, 10:22:56 pm
just think, two more metres and it's worth 2.25AAA – I'm sure I can find those for next time!

err no says the AAA Man it's a basic 2  :(

Mrs B; your etrex needs urgent surgery (or euthanasia) as I said on Saturday; it ain't supposed to do that!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 03, 2012, 11:26:28 pm
Kidds Toys upgraded to 2.25AAA.

There will be an info next year to make the bit which helps this upgrade become unavoidable (which I suggested to AAA man, having felt compelled to ensure the integrity of the climb figure - a change to the "flow" that I have mixed feelings about.  When did people get so fussy about fractions of AAA points?)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 07, 2012, 08:40:47 pm
Booked Box Hill Village Hall for the Surrey Hills & Hillier rides on 21 April.

Two ascents of Box Hill on the 100.  And two ascents to Col d'Harbour.  And two bites of Winterfold.  And a sprinkling of 2 climbs up to Ranmore Common.  And to break it up a climb of Pitch Hill.  Lots of iconic Surrey Hills climbs, tackled from different angles, with lunch provided.

Divide by two for 50.

Ding dong.  Stick it in your diary.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on September 07, 2012, 08:44:04 pm
Ding dong
Indeed. And that village hall is quite luxurious.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 08, 2012, 01:19:59 am
And two bites of Winterfold

think I'm washing the cat that day (actually I will be there as always; goes with dreaming up this award I suppose)

you really should try Surrey Secrets; the gain without the pain; the Betchworth approach is the best IMHO

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 08, 2012, 06:28:33 am
Quote
you really should try Surrey Secrets; the gain without the pain; the Betchworth approach is the best IMHO

Ah, you are thinking of Box Hill? I really dislike the pebble hill way up Box Hill from Betchworth.  It offers no views, only a direct 14% climb.  That said, I've not cycled up it for a wee while, so in the pursuit of happiness I'll see what it would be like if I were to put it in.  It does, for example, allow a nicer route between the bottom of Leith Hill and the bottom of Box Hill via the lanes that broadly trace the progress of the River Mole.

Although less exciting, I'm also investigating some tweaks to the Around Weald, that I think will make the route prettier but no more hilly.  In particular, I'm looking into the feasibility of going to Herstmonceaux rather than Battle, and possibly controlling a bit to the west of the Keston checkpoint to better avoid the descent of Chalkpit.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 09, 2012, 09:18:10 am
Rode AWE again as a DIY yesterday with cover girl for her 100AAA  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I think it would make an excellent perm, definitely at the easier end of the spectrum and suitable for RRTY and a handy potential 42AAA to boot. Keston has a post office if you wanted to use that.

A slight and much more benign long-cut with slightly more climbing was Tandridge Hill instead of the vicious White Lane,
it's on my occasional commute into That London
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 09, 2012, 02:55:07 pm
Permanent already plotted out and will be

Edenbridge
Selsdon
Forest row
Mayfield
Battle
Groombridge / Langton green
Swanley
Edenbridge

It's not an easy ride, just fair. It purposefully has some stiff climbing separated by bits to recover.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 09, 2012, 03:20:41 pm
I was comparing it to other 200 AAA perms (of which I've ridden none but done their calendar counterparts)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 09, 2012, 03:42:52 pm
I can think of rides that have a similar feel, but you are right.  I got to the end of the ride feeling remarkably chipper.  And this despite it only being my 2nd (audax) 200 of the year.  I did wonder about forcing the ride over Kidds and also an extended trip amongst the north downs, but in the end thought that it would do more harm than good.  The best comment I got from riders was one that said something along the lines that it felt like a nice route that just happened to include some hills.  I am hoping to keep that feel.

Another 200 is gestating in my head and might burst free at some point, like an Alien.  Criss crosses the length of the North Downs.  I'll ride it at some point, to see how feasible it is as a calendar event.  I rode a bit yesterday (which also doubled as a check on whether Selsdon, Warlingham or New Addiscombe would be the best place to control the AWE perm) and it was tiring.  That said, my concern is that it will need too many controls (10 or so?) and involve too many technical descents, but you never know.

If that doesn't work out, I'll leave the second 200km grimpeur in the area to another, more creative route setter.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 09, 2012, 04:11:29 pm
intrigued by the Selsdon and Swanley deviations; do they add much distance? we both agreed that the descent into Eynsford (with its views of both Canary Wharf the Gherkin and the QE2 bridge) is unmissable  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 09, 2012, 04:50:25 pm
Swanley adds.  Selsdon broadly distance neutral.  Touch more climbing but not much.

Selsdon chosen because of range of controls it offers and a nice ride via Farleigh common.  Swanley likewise, as takes ride via the rather lovely bridge over the ford in Eynsford village.

Need to submit to john ward though. Likewise running by the AAA man.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: StevieB on September 09, 2012, 07:51:13 pm
I'm looking into the feasibility of going to Herstmonceaux rather than Battle

Having been to Battle twice (both at your insistence!) my vote goes for the other place.

First time I found an OK café on the triangle in front of the abbey, but I was the only cyclist there and it felt like it. This year I stopped at the co-op, which was OK, but didn’t feel like the momentous occasion to justified cycling 100 km to get there.

I’ve also found Battle to be over-crowded - the traffic does not flow well down the main street, and it just doesn’t feel a good place to be on a bicycle.

Perhaps others found a great place to stop and hopefully they will share their recommendation... 
 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: StevieB on September 09, 2012, 08:12:44 pm
I'm smiling from ear to ear at the moment as last Sunday accompanied by BlackSheep I took the ladies AAA record set in 1998 with a total of 165AAA's. :)

:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:      CONGRATULATIONS!      :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I am staggered at your achievement! With 3x RTTY and 3x SR, this is the first year I’ll squeeze into 20 AAA points (with a ride later this month) and GdS (with a ride next month), so to be hitting 180 points in eleven months… and GdS when you don’t even live in the Sud! Staggering! Well done, your smiles are deserved!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 10, 2012, 10:23:41 am
I'm looking into the feasibility of going to Herstmonceaux rather than Battle

Having been to Battle twice (both at your insistence!) my vote goes for the other place.

I agree with what you say about Battle.  Will use for the perm version, but the calendar will go elsewhere.  I'm really taken with the idea of sending the route down to the observatory in the H place.  Its a shame the hills run out before the coast, otherwise I'd send it down there.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mrs Blacksheep on September 10, 2012, 05:25:26 pm
Hi

Not achieved Gds yet still have 3 rides to go, but working on it :).

Thanks for noting my AAA total.

bfn
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mrs Blacksheep on September 11, 2012, 06:30:45 pm

'Mrs B; your etrex needs urgent surgery (or euthanasia) as I said on Saturday; it ain't supposed to do that!'

Well it's gone back to it's maker yesterday, if it comes back doing the same, it's off to E-bay for good.  And will
be replaced for a younger model prob the 800.

Oh, I'm talking Etrex here not BlackSheep!!!!!!!!!

Bfn




Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 24, 2012, 11:40:28 am
Rode the Reliable twice (each way round) on Saturday, was thinking of adding this format as a 200 to next year's calendar event (The Reliable-er) but a real faff with info controls. I didn't find it much different either way round. Anyone reversing this in the dark over the winter DO NOT finish down Palesgate Lane and the ford, carry straight on into Crowborough then down the hill to the station (same amount of non-climbing!)

Met mmmmmmartin on his single loop on the reversed second half, hope you found my cryptic East Hoathly info OK (cryptic as in the route doesn't even go through East Hoathly any more!  :-[)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 24, 2012, 01:29:48 pm
A possibility, for those wanting a 200, is Reliable + AAA Milne.  Crowborough as an intermediate control.  Has an advantage that AAA Milne has no infos.

Although consideration would need to be given as to how it is recorded, given constraints over riding two different events on the same date (even if consecutively), as I understand it.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Manotea on September 24, 2012, 01:36:06 pm
I did a bit of research on Saturday and moved a step forward towards the AAAnfractous, a 3AAA 200km GPS DIY Perm.

You know that pan-flat run out to Marlow that starts the ride? Well, it isn't anymore....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 24, 2012, 02:16:19 pm
A possibility, for those wanting a 200, is Reliable + AAA Milne.  Crowborough as an intermediate control.  Has an advantage that AAA Milne has no infos.

Although consideration would need to be given as to how it is recorded, given constraints over riding two different events on the same date (even if consecutively), as I understand it.

I did think about Down to Downs and Reliable with a short train journey between the two *. Combining them as per your suggestion would involve a few extra hills.


Possible Turners Hill based Reliable 2 in the pipeline when I get the chance to go out just for fun to check the climbing  :-\

* for those who haven't tried it the Reliable starts from a station with a regular service to That London
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 02, 2012, 09:52:06 pm
who's up for Hengist's Hills Sunday?

a great event; lots of to-ing and fro-ing from Checkpoint Timmy; not too hard either

I'll be ECEing; not being extreme just that it being October I have pesky things to do like ride and organise my own event on the other weekends this month  :-\
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on October 03, 2012, 07:35:47 am
who's up for Hengist's Hills Sunday?

a great event; lots of to-ing and fro-ing from Checkpoint Timmy; not too hard either
Me. And usually good food, too: fruit salad, homemade vegetarian chili, homemade cakes.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on October 03, 2012, 07:52:44 am
1st event of the season for me!

Also need it to get my (totally unofficial) GdS Kent using calendar rides.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 03, 2012, 10:47:50 am
1st event of the season for me!

Also need it to get my (totally unofficial) GdS Kent using calendar rides.

But not the new GdS season, that doesn't start until 1.1.13

I'm going for "Generic GdS" 5 of the same perm, have done Reliable and Down to Downs just need one more AAA Milne before the end of December

NB New medals on order, new price £2.50  :(
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on October 07, 2012, 06:40:13 pm
Hengists Hills

That was a tough one, but aren't they all, made a bit easier by the perfect weather. Tim had a good turnout with the usual GdSers and also a number of local club riders and while most of the course had recovered from Friday nights deluge some of the minor lanes were a bit dodgy. Spent most of the ride about 25 metres behind Aregister and Mike S catching them up a few times when we hit a steep one and then drifting backwards on the flat.   
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on October 07, 2012, 07:03:48 pm
Hengists Hills

That was a tough one, but aren't they all, made a bit easier by the perfect weather. Tim had a good turnout with the usual GdSers and also a number of local club riders and while most of the course had recovered from Friday nights deluge some of the minor lanes were a bit dodgy. Spent most of the ride about 25 metres behind Aregister and Mike S catching them up a few times when we hit a steep one and then drifting backwards on the flat.
A lovely ride which I've done four times now, but sill I have trouble seeing where I am on the routesheet. Luckily PatC and MikeS were around to guide me through all the grassy triangles.
Hollingbourne Hill seemed not so bad at the end, but I think that was because my front tyre blowout 8k from finish gave my legs a rest.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 07, 2012, 10:18:34 pm
I ece'd Hengists from home and back to Tonbridge (well why not hit the ground running? AAA GdS and RRTY all in my first event of the season) but my last few weekends and overgeared bike not to mention a very unseasonal early morning frost made it a very hard day out;

Thanks to Tim and J; a really nice little event with a sting in the tail  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 01, 2012, 11:45:31 am
Update: I have submitted my Around Weald Expedition 200km (actually 208km shortest - if you like cycling on busy A roads! - and 215km actual if follow the "optional" route sheet) as a permanent.  If accepted and when published, it will extend the choice of GdS eligible events to include an off the shelf BR with distance points.  Same as the calendar event, but with Selsdon rather than Keston and Swanley rather than Eynsford.  Also, Groombridge is simply lopped off and the route goes direct to Langton.  Not accepting entries yet, but expect this will "open for business" before Xmas.

I've decided not to offer the Kidds Toys as a permanent alongside my current roster of events, as I believe this would result in too many 100km permanent rides in the same area doing similar hills/lanes.  I am, however, instead going to extend the route of one of AAA Milne and Kidds Toys to an imperial century, meaning I will eventually offer a 50km, 2x100km, 150km(ish) and 200km hilly events in the South East.

Ssssh.  Between you and me, I may add a 300 at some point based on an amalgam of events.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 01, 2012, 06:11:11 pm
just finished my 5th ride for a first GdS of the new AUK year (although it does not count as a 2013 GdS as that does not start until 1.1.13) with a ride round the Reliable Riverable

seriously crap lanes today; fairly limited but quite a few km of rivers hidden potholes leaf mould and general crud; anyone planning to ride after today please bring decent tyres and keep an eagle eye on the road. At the risk of promoting the competition I reckon you'd have a much nicer ride on Down to Downs at least until the roads clear

A reminder that the route will be at its very best for the Calendar event next May 25th (B/H weekend; Saturday so as to leave y'all 2 clear days)

no hot dogs; planning something more Spring-like
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 01, 2012, 08:10:12 pm
Spring like?

http://expectationsreality.com/post/3449456159/curly-fries

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 01, 2012, 08:18:28 pm
I've added some 2012 trivia to the GdS webpage; anyone thought of another obscure way of getting that coveted pin let me know and you will be included;

so far I've avoided a Folder GdS  ::-)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 01, 2012, 08:56:39 pm
With the emergence of AWE perm, a BRinG dS will be  possible in 2013...

A 300km (c. 5AAA) (https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?saddr=uckfield&daddr=51.24474,0.10436+to:Sevenoaks+Rd%2FA21+to:crowborough+to:51.25705,0.01555+to:51.27616,0.01832+to:selsdon+to:51.28996,-0.02878+to:51.14297,0.0423+to:51.0671206,0.0862217+to:uckfield+to:51.00175,0.17853+to:51.01669,0.23452+to:wadhurst+to:51.10989,0.23175+to:51.1526029,0.2196277+to:51.28687,0.22273+to:swanley+to:51.33395,0.1777+to:Uckfield&hl=en&ll=51.230538,0.266418&spn=0.256691,0.617294&sll=51.07743,0.081024&sspn=0.128772,0.308647&geocode=FY6vCQMdqXYBACltb8AxskzfRzGvbxlS7klqvg%3BFcTuDQMdqJcBACk_TmZ0SFHfRzEAOVsF_twuFQ%3BFY1-DwMdUGQBAA%3BFXUgCwMdBogCAClRS1dIfEHfRzGQa_o7416otg%3BFdoeDgMdvjwAACn7-PzqDlbfRzFMhtG61oycuQ%3BFYBpDgMdkEcAAClTrKbS5VXfRzGwAthH47YtjA%3BFeFtDwMdWwT__ylXSKDBJv51SDHhJ6bILq4OJg%3BFWifDgMdlI___ynzE7I-Ev91SDFoG98caDIvbQ%3BFTphDAMdPKUAAClpVt2LU1jfRzFP0VUszt8b1w%3BFfA4CwMdzVABACk5RAWSnF7fRzHHoZZ52nTvCQ%3BFY6vCQMdqXYBACltb8AxskzfRzGvbxlS7klqvg%3BFZY5CgMdYrkCACkxUp1S-2ffRzFCLrnVZfta2w%3BFfJzCgMdGJQDACklFpNlfkLfRzGm4th4_wkqRA%3BFfwjCwMdZCgFACl9kMWlTz7fRzFa--08xlqzsg%3BFQLgCwMdRokDAClNAn9cYkTfRzHOOgZNAl4nAw%3BFdqGDAMd61kDACljXkPkEUXfRzEqjbCS2pU5dw%3BFVaTDgMdCmYDACkX4svxt03fRzEWGM-RO6jpOg%3BFbM_EAMdrrQCACm9V8LiA63YRzHAijR29QekQA%3BFT5LDwMdJLYCACmdbDoJpVLfRzH5PqsI9ACCzQ%3BFY6vCQMdqXYBACltb8AxskzfRzGvbxlS7klqvg&oq=uckfield&dirflg=w&doflg=ptk&mra=dpe&mrsp=9&sz=12&via=1,4,5,7,8,9,11,12,14,15,16,18&t=m&z=11) might be available next year for variety (although I suspect the number interested  riders is maybe one at the moment...)

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on November 01, 2012, 09:56:13 pm
anyone thought of another obscure way of getting that coveted pin let me know and you will be included
A winter GdS, ie in the Jan, feb, mar, oct, nov, dec months.

Although to be honest, these are cracking rides for winter, you need not start at silly oclock and you are back home in time for tea and medals.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 01, 2012, 10:54:43 pm
anyone thought of another obscure way of getting that coveted pin let me know and you will be included
A winter GdS, ie in the Jan, feb, mar, oct, nov, dec months.

well those months include 5 calendar events so there could be quite a few qualifiers
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on November 03, 2012, 11:21:03 pm
anyone thought of another obscure way of getting that coveted pin let me know and you will be included
A winter GdS, ie in the Jan, feb, mar, oct, nov, dec months.

well those months include 5 calendar events so there could be quite a few qualifiers

Ah ha, and here's two events all ready to rock and roll my dear Gds'ers-

Hills and Mills 102 km 19th January 2013 - http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-77/

Mad Jacks JSM 120 km 16th February 2013- http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-85/

Route sheets ready to download, both events limited to 50 riders, entries starting to roll in, so when they are gone there gone my friends.

GPX files from 2012 now obsolete for both events, as new Cafe controls, thanks El for all your mobile controls especially on all thirteen Mad Jacks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 04, 2012, 08:40:08 am
Did the AWE perm route yesterday, and all is good.  Still the same mix of easy and hard roads on this mainly rural route.  Adding Selsdon and Swanley mean a little more riding in urban areas, and both involve a little more climbing that the 2012 calendar version, but nothing that a bit of sweat and toil can't overcome.  Selsdon has the useful feature of allowing a better descent off the North Downs than the 2012 calendar event.

I had the benefit of seeing early fireworks over London from the descent to Eynsford, and over Surrey from Toys Hill well (the route now descends via Puddledock Lane).  I can't promise future riders will have the same view!

I also discovered the revitalising power of (a) a Starbar + a can of Lucozade orange, and (b) chocolate marzipan from Lidl.  Zoom zoom.

AAA confirmed as 3.5AAA by the AAA overlord (3,450m of climb).  Will no doubt be listed soon.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on November 04, 2012, 10:29:31 am
Did the AWE perm route yesterday, and all is good. 
Thanks for organising this.

I had the benefit of seeing early fireworks over London from the descent to Eynsford, and over Surrey from Toys Hill well (the route now descend via Puddledock Lane).  I can't promise future riders will have the same view!
Did you see the burning effigy of Lance Armstrong coming back to Edenbridge?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 04, 2012, 11:00:55 am
Missed that, mainly because I wasn't aware of it!  Drat.

Edenbridge was full of people milling around in the streets, the roads being more or less closed to transitory traffic.  The reek of gunpowder was unmissible, and a veil of smoke hung in the air.  A lone kebab van in the car park was unloading the smell of greasy burgers, but I surprised myself by managing to resist the lure, which was tough as I was as hungry as a randonneur should be after half a day in the saddle. 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on November 04, 2012, 03:23:59 pm
Edenbridge was full of people milling around in the streets, the roads being more or less closed to transitory traffic.  The reek of gunpowder was unmissible, and a veil of smoke hung in the air.  A lone kebab van in the car park was unloading the smell of greasy burgers
Isn't Edenbridge always like that?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 05, 2012, 10:51:48 am
AWE lives.

Whilst I would suggest caution at a time when heavy frost and ice is a threat, I am accepting entries (but you many need to be patient whilst cards are printed, although we can come to an temporary "arrangement"). 

There are a large number of possible start locations (Edenbridge, Selsdon, Swanley, Battle and Forest Row are on route; Sevenoaks, Wadhurst, Warlingham and Tunbridge Wells are feasible "intermediate" towns) many of which have half decent rail connections.

Those who have done the calendar event should know what to expect and, in general, it would be possible to ride this event in the dark days of the next few months (indeed, weather permitting, I hope to use it as the basis for my own BR-AARTY-GdS).  Experienced randonneurs will appreciate that there are a few lanes that would need caution if Jack Frost is out nipping at your wheels and heels, but these can be avoided by taking A roads and B roads with a little ahead planning ~(but may involve more climbing and/or more distance, whilst not being as "pleasant").
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 05, 2012, 01:08:10 pm
Can I use Oxted as an intermediate? apart from the obvious (direct train home and 'spoons next door for celebratory post ride beer  :P) it offers the far more benign Tandridge Hill approach to get up to Beddlestead lane at the expense of a few extra mostly flat km
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 05, 2012, 01:12:48 pm
Yes.

Just add Oxted as the start/finish control and collect proofs of passage from the named controls on the route.

In deepest winter, it would actually be a sensible way to get up onto the North Downs, as White Lane won't benefit from gritting.  You might even want to stay on the B roads to Warlingham etc (even though it will be a bit repititious on the way back from Selsdon, albeit only 5km or so of shared road) as Beddlestead Lane and the back way to Selsdon via Farleigh can also be frost prone.  Plan ahead etcetc.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 12, 2012, 08:37:36 pm
My two Box Hill events on 21 April are going to be AAA rated as 1 (for the 58km ride, but not GdS eligible, grimpeur fans who are short on time) and 2.25 (for the 120km ride, so one to add to the GdS list).

I just need to get the community hall to send me out the booking forms, as I've only got verbal agreement at the moment (but I do have three back up plans - Headley start, or the cricket club, or possibly even the pub as the base for operations).

PS: For those who have not yet sampled the Reliable permanent, I recommend it heartily.  Surprisingly biting little ride;  my glutes are a bit uncomfortable, although I did do the Down to Downs the day before on my tank of a MTB, which won't have helped....

I had convinced myself I'd get around the Reliable in 5 hours, but the lanes needing a bit of care (wet descents until early afternoon) and a lack of va-va-voom in the mid-25km did for that plan, despite trying to time trial my way around the Ripe bit.  A speed goal for later this year.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on November 12, 2012, 08:52:41 pm
PS: For those who have not yet sampled the Reliable permanent, I recommend it heartily.
Agreed! As I remember the worst hill is the first hill. Then that's out of the way.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 12, 2012, 09:20:10 pm
PS: For those who have not yet sampled the Reliable permanent, I recommend it heartily.
Agreed! As I remember the worst hill is the first hill. Then that's out of the way.

unless you park at the top of it like I did last week  :-\ and have a blown out tyre and do it on 40psi

still thinking about a Reliable 2 when I get the chance;

ps I've been asked by another organiser if anyone has any calendar dates for next year that have not as yet gone up in the calendar. Remember the 2013 season is 1 Jan to 31 Dec

so far we have

19.1.13 Hills and Mills
16.2.13 Mad Jack John Seviour Memorial
9.3.13 Lasham Loop
17.3.13 Invicta Grimpeur
14.4.13 Hell of the Sussex Coastal Hills
21.4.13 Box Hill Hillbilly hillies
25.5.13 The Reliable
7.7.13 Around Weald Expedition (200) and Kidds Toys (120)
28.7.13 Forts and Ferries
18.8.13 Tour of the Hills
5.10.13 The AAAnfractuous (200)
19.10.13 Mid Sussex Hilly and Hillier
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 12, 2012, 09:28:14 pm
AWE and KT on 7 July.

I *may* put on a 300km ride in August (5.25 AAA or thereabouts) running out of the Uckfield area (outline earlier in this thread from memory).  No promises though & certainly not in calender yet, even at planning stage, as it is a germ of an idea and need to figure out how to fit it around my own riding (I have written the routesheet though and will definitely offer it as a permanent from mid-summer).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on November 13, 2012, 06:09:23 pm
The 100km Forts & Ferries has now been credited with it's AAA points and will be run on 28/07/13.

TOTH is also on the calendar usual weekend 18/08/13

So that's at least one calendar GdS ride a month from Jan -Aug 2013 (except June)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 13, 2012, 11:45:27 pm
October to December is the new season.  On a future GdS I'll sound out if a Nov/Dec Down to Downs will be welcome, as it is a relatively "good" winter route. Given September should have the Hengist and October the Sussex events, only one more ride for a  calendar GDS in principle....

If someone steps up with a June event.  Shall I run a June 300? Happy to put  it on if there is the demand, based on feedback.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 14, 2012, 12:02:04 am
October to December is the new season.

no it's not  ;) DKUATB

hopefully the Whitchurch 100 should provide a November event

+1 about D2D; rode it on December / January no problems at all a great year round ride

June 300 sounds good; "Southern Daylight?"
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 14, 2012, 12:17:17 am
Meant AUK not GdS season, with my org hat on.

A bit of time to plan.  For the 300 (Around Weald Odyssey as I'd call it) I'd have an Uckfield start and probably ride myself.  Will canvas a few likely punters...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Manotea on November 14, 2012, 03:58:41 pm
PS: For those who have not yet sampled the Reliable permanent, I recommend it heartily.
Agreed! As I remember the worst hill is the first hill. Then that's out of the way.

unless you park at the top of it like I did last week  :-\ and have a blown out tyre and do it on 40psi

still thinking about a Reliable 2 when I get the chance;

ps I've been asked by another organiser if anyone has any calendar dates for next year that have not as yet gone up in the calendar. Remember the 2013 season is 1 Jan to 31 Dec

so far we have

19.1.13 Hills and Mills
16.2.13 Mad Jack John Seviour Memorial
9.3.13 Lasham Loop
17.3.13 Invicta Grimpeur
14.4.13 Hell of the Sussex Coastal Hills
21.4.13 Box Hill Hillbilly hillies
25.5.13 The Reliable
7.7.13 Around Weald Expedition (200) and Kidds Toys (120)
28.7.13 Forts and Ferries
18.8.13 Tour of the Hills
(tba) 10.13 Mid Sussex Hilly and Hillier
5.10.13 The AAAnfractuous
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on November 14, 2012, 07:22:53 pm
Other Southern events worthy of GDS include-

Hard Boiled 300km -  http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-175/

Porkers - 400km- http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-400/

Brimstone 600km - http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-176/

Wessex SR series celebrating 20 years and 18.75 total AAA 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mrs Blacksheep on November 14, 2012, 08:06:44 pm
Now I'm a team member with my own 'red' club top,
I'm up for some of that :).

All being well will have my GdS badge very soon.

Mrs BlackSheep
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on November 14, 2012, 09:36:52 pm
Now I'm a team member with my own 'red' club top,
I'm up for some of that :).

All being well will have my GdS badge very soon.

Mrs BlackSheep

1st of all (Nev would have said)- Well done my dear, so you’re the Bird that has won the AAA gong for 2012 with180 AAA points  :thumbsup: 

Now that you have worn out the roads in your neck of the woods, and know every blade of grass! You'll just love Wessex for a change  ;D

Back in my day the epic battle for the AAA championship between Daave Lewis (get well soon Sir) and Sandie (Sandra) Shaw, was one of AUK's finest moments, with just one point separating them. I think Daaave kept Sandra on her toes as he was the AAA Sec and knew how many points to do/ keep the pressure on. Classic stuff. (Mostly calendar events too).

And don't forget folks AUK is non completive  ;D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 14, 2012, 11:08:21 pm
Other Southern events worthy of GDS include-

Hard Boiled 300km -  http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-175/

Porkers - 400km- http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-400/

Brimstone 600km - http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-176/

Wessex SR series celebrating 20 years and 18.75 total AAA

none are eligible and never will be unless they move into a Hants start sorry
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mrs Blacksheep on November 15, 2012, 07:40:42 am
Hi Mad Jack

That's about what Nev would have said at the after dinner speech.

I first met Nev in 1978 in the Surrey Roads CC, and in 1997 rode a few hilly events
with Sandra Shaw. No computer to watch points in those days.

As to cycling new roads I was born in Cuckfield, so sort of going back to my routes!!

See you at the weekend? 

Bfn
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on November 15, 2012, 05:16:16 pm
Wessex SR series celebrating 20 years and 18.75 total AAA

none are eligible and never will be unless they move into a Hants start sorry

Mr Zoom Sir, cant see Hampshire anywhere on here - http://www.dorsets.co.uk/maps/wessex_map.htm

 ;D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on November 15, 2012, 05:39:08 pm
That's about what Nev would have said at the after dinner speech.

I first met Nev in 1978 in the Surrey Roads CC, and in 1997 rode a few hilly events

--I made the mistake of asking Nev if I could borrow his pen to fill in the details of the brevet at the start of the Gospel Pass 150 (original name and route). He went mad, call yourself a Randonneur, how are you supposed to write down all the info controls then? Err Ok I was told!

As to cycling new roads I was born in Cuckfield, so sort of going back to my routes!!

--Ahh local lass then and good one..  :thumbsup:

See you at the weekend? 

--I'll be there in sprit, but have a good one..
Bfn
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 18, 2012, 05:18:05 pm
I test rode a route that I will (subject to the perm secretary accepting it) make available to extend and ultimately supersede the AAA Milne.  Very nice rural route that riffs on the current 100km ride, but does not share much road space with the Down to Downs (which was my aim).  Oxted - Uckfield - Balcombe - High Hurstwood - Wadhurst - Toys Hill - Oxted.  160km, two infos, lots of climbing (mix of long and choppy, bit like the current AAA Milne).

I plan to submit to John later this week, and also plan that once the 20 or so AAA Milne 100km event cards run out that the shorter event will be mothballed, reflecting my take that there are now sufficient 100km events in the area to help riders achieve a GdS, AAARTY and other awards, and the region might benefit from a wider range of challenges.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on November 18, 2012, 07:53:50 pm
Billy
i hope to do my aaa milne before dec 31 so the card should be back with you soonish. keep the down to downs though, it is a fine ride
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 18, 2012, 09:08:55 pm
I plan that rides will be validated if a card has been issued, regardless of timescale.  I'll just not issue new cards from the earlier of 30 September and when the current print runs out.  All subject to the Perms Secretary agreeing and sorting out the practicalities, of course.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 21, 2012, 10:14:19 pm
I test rode a route that I will (subject to the perm secretary accepting it) make available to extend and ultimately supersede the AAA Milne.  Very nice rural route that riffs on the current 100km ride, but does not share much road space with the Down to Downs (which was my aim).  Oxted - Uckfield - Balcombe - High Hurstwood - Wadhurst - Toys Hill - Oxted.  160km, two infos, lots of climbing (mix of long and choppy, bit like the current AAA Milne).

so it goes down Cob Lane? that's brave; not done that for many a year and with better brakes;

I like it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 21, 2012, 10:31:15 pm
Yurp.  It was ok when I did it.  Then again, I had just been frustrated by having to negotiate a closed road at the reservoir.  Those who are afeared of descending t'Cob can take a longer route to Sharpthorne or do the reverse route  O:-)

All good to go though.  Just waiting on the AAA man passing judgement on the points.  My guess is 2.75  (my test route was slightly different and the final has slightly less hills).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 22, 2012, 10:06:51 am
Yurp.  It was ok when I did it.  Then again, I had just been frustrated by having to negotiate a closed road at the reservoir.  Those who are afeared of descending t'Cob can take a longer route to Sharpthorne or do the reverse route  O:-)

Highbrook (1st L off the Lindfield road, comes out at the Vinols Cross) is a nicer route in that direction for an extra 1.2km, also gives train spotting opportunities, Cob / Hook Lane is not really a good year round route, one reason I've kept the MSH as an October ride. Was the reservoir completely closed? it's been pretty grotty recently. 

With this welcome addition to the SE AAA perms I think I can park my idea for a Reliable 2 as it would just duplicate a lot of the roads used by the others

hoping to do AAA Milne Saturday which will complete my Generic GdS (5 of each perm in a year)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 22, 2012, 11:37:01 am
The Ardingly side of the descent  was closed due to emergency electricity work.  I had to do a bit of cyclocross to get through, as the entire width of the road was fenced off half way down.  Also meant the road was a leaf strewn, jcb churned  test of handling skills.

The alternative you mention is what i had in mind for Cob Lane.  I might include a note in the routesheet for those of a nervous disposition.  I found Cob Lane ok, but YMMV.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 22, 2012, 12:41:30 pm
think the last time I went down Cob Lane at this time of year was on an ESCA RT in 2000 (was absolutely filthy) and on the sadly defunct CTC Southern Challenge when it was fine.

Not a direction I normally head as I'm usually heading home in the Turners Hill direction, I think Highbrook is much more in the spirit of a GdS ride, it also holds a special place in my heart as I did 6 DIYs up that road which netted me the required points to land the coveted Michelin Man  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 22, 2012, 12:57:23 pm
Changed the routesheet so it now goes via Highbrook, as it makes little difference to the distance or climb.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 22, 2012, 01:06:17 pm
Changed the routesheet so it now goes via Highbrook, as it makes little difference to the distance or climb.

I think AWE missed the scarecrows in Motts Mill (they were in abundance a few weeks later)
but Highbrook also puts on a nice show of these once a year,

from the summit there's an open gate into a field that affords a commanding view of the Bluebell Railway's engines working hard on their way to (eventually next year) East Grinstead
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 22, 2012, 01:14:16 pm
hoping to do AAA Milne Saturday which will complete my Generic GdS (5 of each perm in a year)

I have something lined up for the weekend that's door-to-door (Surrey Hillier + some roads to get me over towards Box Hill).  If I manage it, I'll then only have 2 more GdS rides to do for my 5xGdS (having got 1xGds in 2010 and so far having done 17 GdS eligible rides this year). It's been a good bit of motivation to aim for this by Xmas.

It's looking like a bit of a rough weekend though.  Trying to decide whether I want to get wet (Saturday), blown about (Sunday) or both (Saturday and Sunday, using one of my 100s for the second day).   As mentioned, others will be out and about doing a 200km grimpeur in the region.  Kind of illustrates how flexible grimping in the  SE can be these days, largely inspired by those bonny wee medals.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 22, 2012, 01:57:29 pm
hoping to do AAA Milne Saturday which will complete my Generic GdS (5 of each perm in a year)

I have something lined up for the weekend that's door-to-door (Surrey Hillier + some roads to get me over towards Box Hill).  If I manage it, I'll then only have 2 more GdS rides to do for my 5xGdS (having got 1xGds in 2010 and so far having done 17 GdS eligible rides this year

I'm afraid it doesn't work like that  :( the GdS x 5 badge was originally intended for completing 3 years of the award but to keep in with the five-ness of it all it's for 5 years, you are allowed to double up (ie 10+10+5) but no more than 10 in a year.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 22, 2012, 02:00:11 pm
Och.  I'll need to wait ages for the gold badge.  A whole extra 3 months  :smug:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 22, 2012, 02:05:18 pm
Och.  I'll need to wait ages for the gold badge.  A whole extra 3 months  :smug:

3 months to do 10 GdS in 2013?

does that include the 6 weeks left of the old year?  ;)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 22, 2012, 02:21:11 pm
I should will (let's be positive) have the object of my desire by the time the clocks go forward.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 23, 2012, 02:01:16 pm
AAA Milne Imperial is now accepting entries.  2,700m of climbing over 162km of roads.

The route is designed to showcase the Ashdown Forest (two climbs; one via Chuck Hatch and one via Kidds Hill).  It also has the rollercoaster road from Ardingly to Balcombe, and an ascent of Toys Hill.  The latter is put in, as I want you to survey all you have (or will, depending on where the ride starts) conquered on the route with views over large swathes of the Weald from the National Trust maintained well on Puddledock Lane.

A good "step up" from 100km grimpeurs towards 200km, and beyond, that will be well within the abilities of anyone who has completed the AAA Milne metric century.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 23, 2012, 03:55:26 pm
probably before your time but the CTC used to organise a Southern Challenge ride from East Grinstead (85 110 and 150km IIRC) the longest version was very similar to the Imperial, but stayed no further North than Cowden and used Friars Gate instead of Chuck Hatch for the 2nd ascent of Ashdown Forest before heading down Nursery Lane and out towards Wadhurst (Best Beech Lane?)

apparently it was in response to a CTC meeting about the Phil and Friends ride at which Keith "Surrey League" Butler was present, somebody said "of course Keith you could organise something similar down South, shame you don't have any hills".....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Yossarian on November 23, 2012, 07:33:10 pm
The AAA Imperial looks excellent - I'll send of an entry next week and look to ride over the next few weeks!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 24, 2012, 02:36:00 pm
the metric AAA Milne was quite enough today thanks very much, not sure why it feels harder than Down to Downs it's about the same climbing. A few skoggy lanes but generall very well surfaced; just a bloody grim day; not helped by riding in a jacket fasioned from Oasis


I believe some more foolhardy souls are taking on a bigger GdS fish today  :o
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 24, 2012, 04:01:04 pm
Today wasn't too bad.  The lanes in the Surrey Hills had minor flooding in places, but nothing that a bit of care picking through the rougher bits couldn't take care of.  Might be worse tomorrow, but the forecast is currently putting me off doing a ride - might take the opportunity to hunker down and rest up.

Yes, three people are out on the road for the AWE.  The wind was picking up as I got home around 20 mins ago, and is forecast to gust this evening.  I hope they get around before it gets too wild, or at the very least that it is a tailwind.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 28, 2012, 01:29:27 pm
Chapeau to Grimpeuse du Sud #5 Mrs BlackSheep :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mrs Blacksheep on November 28, 2012, 07:51:16 pm
Yipeeeee - once given the AAA-OK for distance and AAA's.  I will then have the last piece to my jigsaw
and have a shinney red Gds badge.  It's already pinned to my saddle bag, but my bike now does not move
for the next 2 weeks.  Good job I washed it :).

If you get invite to lap-dancing parties from BlackSheep whilst I'm away do let me know!!!!!  :)

Mrs BlackSheep
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 28, 2012, 08:47:05 pm
Yipeeeee - once given the AAA-OK for distance and AAA's.  I will then have the last piece to my jigsaw
and have a shinney red Gds badge.

it passes muster on my GdS-o-meter  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 29, 2012, 03:43:17 pm
the metric AAA Milne was quite enough today thanks very much, not sure why it feels harder than Down to Downs it's about the same climbing.

It's because the climb for both events is based upon the shortest route between the controls.  The Down to Downs pretty much lies on the shortest route (the main deviations making little or no difference to the climb) whereas the AAA Milne does not, if you follow the routesheet (and the deviations add a fair chunk of sapping climbs).  Putting in an info control at High Hurstwood (as per the Imperial) would increase the AAA claim.

I rode the AAA Milne today and, due to time, followed the original route rather than the route sheet.  The original route was shorter and had less climb (reason why I suggested a diversion via High Hurstwood was to avoid a stretch of the A26 which requires turning right over the traffic flow towards Jarvis Brook).  I actually found it slightly easier than D2D, perhaps because the same climb is over a slightly longer course (or perhaps because I am getting lighter and fitter).

Getting through the metric AAA Milne cards nicely, with a few entries coming in from locals wanting to keep things ticking over the winter months.  At this rate they will be gone by spring/summer: when the last one is bought no new entries would be accepted but all cards in circulation would be validated if done by the end of September 2013 (those left out there at the end of the season will get a "free" swap for any of my other events).  To be fair to people who may want to ride it, I am rationing the metric cards to 2 per rider over 2012/13.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 29, 2012, 04:01:44 pm
I like the new metric AAA Milne route between the top of Kidds Hill and Mayfield but I've never used it (apart from on the Kidds Toys route) as I don't mind the old route even though it's identical to Hills and Mills

on a complete tangent and related to the other thread, I was sent a long list of hilly sportive rides in the SE each with climbing from a gpx, not one qualified for AAA...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 30, 2012, 06:57:29 pm
In that case, its probably physiology.  As I say, I find the AAA Milne, Reliable and Sussex Hills relatively easy rides compared to Kidds Toys and Down to Downs.  That I'm removing the AAA Milne might suggest a masochistic streak, which makes sense (why else would I favour hilly events in general?)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 30, 2012, 09:55:57 pm
Reliable less so (Palesgate Lane at the start and Burgh Hill being the only two that will possibly have you out of the saddle) but your other two have two very significant climbs apiece; D2D has long steady climbs to match AAA Milne's little lumps

I look forward to the 300km Oddyssey with glee; I'll be missing the Elenydd for it...

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on November 30, 2012, 10:07:34 pm
Have you *seen* the Odyssey route  :demon:

I was thinking of running it as a group perm btw.  Uckfield start, as the route goes there twice.

Anyhoo.  To sleep. AWE for me the morrow.  Hopefully a 6am start.  Brrr.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on November 30, 2012, 10:11:20 pm
I like AAA Milne and it's a shame it is disappearing. It and the D2D make very nice winter days out.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 30, 2012, 10:15:22 pm
I like AAA Milne and it's a shame it is disappearing.

not on my watch (and you were the first to ride it) it's my name and I'll take it back if need be even if a different route :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on December 01, 2012, 05:05:46 am
I should have mentioned that I was going to drop the word "imperial" when the 100km ride goes.

Having reflected whilst on the AWE today, I've decided I will brand the imperial as something different, so that "AAA Milne" will become free to be used for another event when the metric is removed from the record.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on December 01, 2012, 08:19:29 pm
Today I learned AWE is a tricky 200 when ice is a threat, although I suspect any route in the area would have been challenging today.  The sodden ground was releasing water onto roads, which in turn was freezing early on.  Nice day though, once the sun cut through the fog.  Intermittently sunny, and only a couple of passing showers.  Lucky really, even if I did have a slow speed sidewards slide into the grime when coming off the North Downs at 8am.  That apart, enjoyable.

Tried out a couple of minor route variations, some of which will go into both the permanent and the calendar event as they are simply better.  Sionara Newick Lane.  Sionara Brighttling to Burwash laney rollercoaster.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 01, 2012, 08:24:51 pm
I like AAA Milne and it's a shame it is disappearing.

not on my watch (and you were the first to ride it) it's my name and I'll take it back if need be even if a different route :)
Well hurrah!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 01, 2012, 11:58:32 pm
I'll be working on creating a new 100k AAA Milne perm once Billy stops his event;

will need to look at what Billy's new routes offer and try to offer something using all new roads (to AUK)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 02, 2012, 08:46:00 am
Ah ha, and here's two events all ready to rock and roll my dear Gds'ers-

Hills and Mills 102 km 19th January 2013   - http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-77/

Mad Jacks JSM 120 km 16th February 2013- http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-85/

Route sheets ready to download, both events limited to 50 riders, entries starting to roll in, so when they are gone there gone my friends.

GPX files from 2012 now obsolete for both events, as new Cafe controls, thanks El for all your mobile controls especially on all thirteen Mad Jacks  :thumbsup:

New GPX files added thanks mmmmartin your hired! And Ian H  :thumbsup:

Hills and Mills- http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1963484

Mad Jacks John Seviour Memorial- http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1963485

Plus you can click the GPS link on the calendar pages above

Updated route sheets, -  as there is a new Mini roundabout going in that effects both events, they have taken a month to do not a lot with it!

Andy

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 02, 2012, 05:54:58 pm
I've knocked up a 102km route for the new AAA Milne; starts from (quelle surprise!) East Grinstead with controls at Groombridge, Lindfield and Ansty plus unspecified infos. Gives you a good taste of Ashdown Forest using only one of Billy's old climbs (Friars Gate; my fave). Best news is no real hard climbs of note just constant up down up after you leave the Forest

I'm confident it will make at least 1.75AAA as I rode a 66km version as a DIY several times for 1.25

It's similar to a ride I used to do before I got into this Audax lark; that was called Wealden Ridge Mountain Blues
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 02, 2012, 06:14:14 pm
GPS validation?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on December 02, 2012, 06:18:45 pm
AAA Milne Imperial has been renamed "Sussexy Beast".
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 02, 2012, 06:45:48 pm
GPS validation?

of course  :) I'm one of the "Hallowed Few"

AAA Milne Imperial has been renamed "Sussexy Beast".

Like it  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Corlis Benefideo on December 04, 2012, 08:37:24 pm
Hi all. I've made some (possibly foolish) plans to attempt the GdS in 2013. I've done a few audaxes, up to a 300, but have generally shyed away from the AAA events, although I do enjoy a bit of climbing.

My parents live in Burwash so I'll be trying to put in some miles over the christmas period along some of the East Sussex hills. As an added challenge, I was planning on doing them all fixed. I've been doing distance rides fixed for a fair while, although I don't think I've covered territory quite as hilly as many of the GdS routes.  I noticed some fixed gear riders have completed the GdS before, and was wondering what gear choice they'd made? I've always been a proponent of 65", which I've found fairly versatile.

Anyway, if you see a new face struggling on fixed in the new year, that'll be me...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 04, 2012, 08:41:07 pm
welcome CB  :) I'll look out for you at the control before watching you go up Kidds Hill (that'll be The Wall to sportive riders) on Hills and Mills
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 04, 2012, 08:42:38 pm
A post on here might produce a few companions for a ride over christmas.
look at martin's the reliable, i think it goes your way.
and obv hills and mills and mad jacks if you can get back to stay at burwash.
mad jacks is without doubt the toughest ride in the south of england and if you can cope with that, no audax holds any fear for you.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on December 04, 2012, 08:52:04 pm
Sussexy Beast (162km - 2,750m of climb) and Around Weald Expedition (215km - 3,500m of climb) both go that way kind of way, assuming permanent events are of interest.  Wadhurst, in particular, is a possible start location.

The Down to Downs is relatively fixed wheel friendly, with quite a few completions on t'cog.  You'd need to get over to Uckfield though, which might be the closest possible start location.

As for gearing, you'll need to be able to cope with gradients of 14% or thereabouts on most GdS events.  Some climbs are steeper (20% or more) but with planning can be avoided, if necessary.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Corlis Benefideo on December 04, 2012, 09:24:12 pm
Thanks all. I'd planned on doing a couple of perms such as the D2D and The Reliable as well as some of the shorter events at the beginning of the year. I'll have to see how the winter training goes before I commit to the hilly 200s...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on December 04, 2012, 09:30:05 pm
The Around Weald is running as a calendar event on 7 July, so plenty of time to get prepared for it  O:-)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 05, 2012, 01:23:57 pm
Ah ha, and here's two events all ready to rock and roll my dear Gds'ers-

Hills and Mills 102 km 19th January 2013   - http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-77/

Mad Jacks JSM 120 km 16th February 2013- http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-85/

Route sheets ready to download, both events limited to 50 riders, entries starting to roll in, so when they are gone there gone my friends.

GPX files from 2012 now obsolete for both events, as new Cafe controls, thanks El for all your mobile controls especially on all thirteen Mad Jacks  :thumbsup:

New GPX files added thanks mmmmartin your hired! And Ian H  :thumbsup:

Hills and Mills- http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1963484

Mad Jacks John Seviour Memorial- http://ridewithgps.com/routes/1963485

Plus you can click the GPS link on the calendar pages above

Updated route sheets, -  as there is a new Mini roundabout going in that effects both events, they have taken a month to do not a lot with it!

Andy

Welcome CB,

Hills and Mills calender event go's through Burwash Weald. 1.75AAA.

Mad Jacks calender event goes through the western outskirts of Burwash, 2.5AAA, both events start in Hailsham see above^
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 10, 2012, 10:36:28 pm
The 2013 calendar Reliable is now open for entries; I'm sure £2 including a hot dog is a typo, better enter soon before it gets corrected  ;)

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-571/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 11, 2012, 10:27:12 am
I'm in.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 20, 2012, 10:31:57 pm
Sir,

Is there a list of events for the 2013 GDS series on here somewhere  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 21, 2012, 10:22:38 am
Sir,

Is there a list of events for the 2013 GDS series on here somewhere  :thumbsup:

ish....

http://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on December 21, 2012, 11:21:09 am
Wasn't there a running list earlier in this thread? <edit: reply 386 is latest>
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 21, 2012, 08:41:58 pm
[ps I've been asked by another organiser if anyone has any calendar dates for next year that have not as yet gone up in the calendar. Remember the 2013 season is 1 Jan to 31 Dec

so far we have

19.1.13 Hills and Mills
16.2.13 Mad Jack John Seviour Memorial
9.3.13 Lasham Loop
17.3.13 Invicta Grimpeur
14.4.13 Hell of the Sussex Coastal Hills
21.4.13 Box Hill Hillbilly hillies
25.5.13 The Reliable
7.7.13 Around Weald Expedition (200) and Kidds Toys (120)
28.7.13 Forts and Ferries
18.8.13 Tour of the Hills
5.10.13 The AAAnfractuous (200)
19.10.13 Mid Sussex Hilly and Hillier

Is this the one..  ;D

And the list of perms-
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 21, 2012, 09:54:33 pm
perms are

Down to Downs 100
AAA Milne (old) 100
Sussexy Beast 160
Around Weald Expedition 200

thru Hillbilly

and

The Reliable 100
AAA Milne (new) 100 in progress

thru me

plus DIYs Surrey Secrets and IOW through me and err Manotea
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on December 26, 2012, 06:33:17 pm
Anyone doing rides in the Surrey Hills should check local flooding reports.  Whilst not as high profile as the South West (understandably), there are particular points under water in the South East.  The top of White Down Lane (on way UP to Ranmore Common) had an abandoned car, but the hollow was being drained (slurped?) by the council/a contractor (but couldn't really see the point, due to the forecast for heavy rain late pm, which turned out to be spot on).  I managed to push through, but it was one of those "please don't get any higher" moments, when you have to put a little bit of effort into it due to the "drag".  I had thought the "Police - road closed" at the bottom of the climb was in place because of the Boxing Day shooting (favour to aristos shooting at pheasants - felt like a war zone, spent most of the climb in an aero tuck "just in case") but turned out it was for the flooding.

Shudder to think what Ashdown is like, particularly if it got the same heavy rain I was entertained with at 2pm onwards.  The ford on the way to Fairwap was ok, but some of the brooks a bit agitated when I was out on Xmas Eve.  Some of the fields in the Low Weald between Lingfield and Edenbridge were at a tipping point when I passed the other day.

Thankfully, at some point, this post will become a relic of historical interest only, frozen in time.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 26, 2012, 07:30:33 pm
Shudder to think what Ashdown is like
Many thanks, I was wondering this myself, went for a walk there yesterday and it was astonishing how much water was running down even steep banks, you would have thought it would have drained by then.
Thankfully, at some point, this post will become a relic of historical interest only, frozen in time.
Cometh the hour, cometh the man. I was thinking of riding AAA Milne tomorrow, but have seen the forecast of six hours of heavy rain. This is a most timely post. More beer for me tonight and no alarm in the morning. :thumbsup:
Alas my aim of riding AAA Milne and The Reliable before midnight on December 31 looks slightly less likely now. ::-)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 26, 2012, 07:40:01 pm
Alas my aim of riding AAA Milne and The Reliable before midnight on December 31 looks slightly less likely now. ::-)

no problem! I've decided (for no good reason) to ride the "Festive Five GdS" over the 2 weeks, 3 down 2 to go
Down to Downs Reliable AAA Milne New AAA Milne Surrey Secrets

AAA Milne was a joy today; reversed it as it may be the only chance before it gets recycled as a gangster ride. Used a couple of Billy's previous diversions, the original route never used along Sham Farm Lane near Eridge and also the Around Weald entrance to Mayfield.

Rain arrived exactly as scheduled at 13.50, didn't enjoy seeing the outskirts of Crowborough inna uphill stylee. And had a long overdue blat down Kidds Hill (don't think any rides do this; I certainly wouldn't send a calendar event down it) before the heavens truly opened at Forest Row with a damp 6k home
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on December 26, 2012, 08:43:53 pm
The heavy rain does, however, have the advantage that it is giving the lanes a right good wash.  Some lanes that are usually a bit of an adventure were actually rather pleasant today.  Not Hoe Lane/Raikes Lane though, that was still like the Mud Monster had decided to barf up its festive lunch all over them.  And then gone back to lay a top coat of Mud Monster scat  ;)

It was also rather jovial being out at a time when the rest of the country is generally nursing hangovers, and those that were out seemed to have some lingering festive spirit.  And for a bonus, the Box Hill servery was open for double espresso and bread pudding refuel. Down side of that, though, is that I'll need to tweak the answer to one of my info questions on the Surrey Hills perm...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 28, 2012, 06:53:37 pm
I rode my proposed new AAA Milne perm route today; the track suggests 1.75AAA we'll see what the AAA Man says;

Starting from err where I live it makes fast progress to Groombridge (receipt and alternative start) before the classic Friars Gate drag up the forest; thence back over the forest twice via Twyford and the never before used Nutley-Duddleswell road which offers lovely views of the South Downs on any other day than today  :-\

Low point is at Barcombe (receipt and alternative start) before a long steady and very forgiving drag up with steam train spotting potential before the final assault of Stone Hill just before the finish;

I commend it to the House
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 30, 2012, 10:03:42 pm
 :-* I did the old Aaa Milne today, the fords were surprisingly low although the wind was a bit high. Bank in Forest Row is now closed but receipt from the garage over the road, which does a nice cheese and ham sarnie. The southern variation is a nicer route but longer. And the nav is trickier, although it was dark by then  :o.
 So I have done only four GdS rides in 2012. Not the five needed to get The Badge.
I wish I had done them in the summer. Now I must get out of the house and do The Reliable in the morning. Why The Reliable? Because I can enter online when I can see the weather, and know how knackered I feel. Given the forecast, I may not acquire my coveted GdS badge for 2012  :'( :'( #lastdayoftheyearblues
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on December 31, 2012, 06:58:24 am
I rode the 2013 version of the AWE 200km grimpeur (3.5AAA), which I hope some of you will ride in the summer.  It is a fine route,  which to my tastes is superior to the event I offered in 2012.  A little shorter but a little hillier (it may have been the wind/weather, cumulative miles over the festive period, or poor feeding pattern - croissant and a rocky road were all I had - but I was feeling it at the end of the ride).  Some of the changes made reflect feedback from those who rode last year's event, others for distance/AAA purposes.


Most of the route offers fine views, which is my key aim for this ride (and is the reason for the shunt to the observatories).  That there are hills is almost coincidental  O:-)

7 July is the date to put in your diary.  This would be a way to keep the legs prepped for LEL, especially (imo) if ECE'd up to a 300km ride, without building up sleep deprivation.

Those wanting to relive the magic of the 2012 route by entering my permanent, which is largely faithful to that version (albeit out of "24hr control" necessity stretches beyond Eynsford to control in Swanley).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 03, 2013, 10:00:40 am
Chapeau to latest GdS and first Grimpeur du Vectis (5 qualifying rides on the IOW) Hilary Searle  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Manotea on January 03, 2013, 10:21:13 am
John Oakshott has just posted 2.25 points for a new hilly route in the SE portion of the map.

Alas it will not qualify for GdS as it is in Western Australia!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Old Git on January 03, 2013, 12:07:49 pm
This is my first attempt at the GdS and it should be very interesting as I am a cr&p climber.
 I am treating it as a make or break exercise
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 03, 2013, 12:10:43 pm
take some advice: do not leave two days at the end of December to do the two remaining rides of the five you need to get the GdS badge. You might find you can do one ride but not the second. DAMHIKT
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Old Git on January 03, 2013, 12:18:34 pm
take some advice: do not leave two days at the end of December to do the two remaining rides of the five you need to get the GdS badge. You might find you can do one ride but not the second. DAMHIKT

one way or another I will have finished the GdS by then  ;D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 05, 2013, 09:37:29 pm
anyone think a 2013 GdS qualifier thread might be a good idea as a motivator like RRTY? it was included in the 2012 Awards thread but it rather died a death
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 05, 2013, 10:11:22 pm
yes
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on January 13, 2013, 05:47:43 pm
SE based grimpeurs who cycle in the Surrey Hills may be pleased to know that the awful surface on the descent to Peaslake at Walking Bottom has had a fresh layer of tarmac put down and is much improved as a descent (and ascent) of Pitch Hill.  Raikes Lane also looked like it was having some work done to it on the Holmbury side (although it was dark when I sneaked past the "road closed" signs, so couldn't see exactly what the big digger was poised to do - I suspect it was reinforcing the banks at the passing places).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 03, 2013, 11:04:36 pm
I'm pleased to announce that the AAA Milne will continue under my watch; same AAA (1.75) slightly shorter (104km) 4 (count 'em) different ascents of Ashdown Forest and lots of lovely Mid Sussex lanes;

coming soon....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on February 04, 2013, 06:46:15 am
Anyone wanting to experience my soon to be defunct, and different to Martin's version, AAA Milne route must send entries to me by the end of this month (February).  The brevet will be validated if ridden before 30 September 2013.

(And in other news, I intend to add another 200 grimpeur to the perms available.  Called the North and South Downs 200.  Makes a GdS with a 200 Brevet Randonneur more accessible.  A 300 is being worked on and will also take in the Surrey Hills, so linking the principal grimping zones in mid/West Sussex and Surrey).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 10, 2013, 10:20:55 am
I completed GdS no 7 yesterday with a DIY 200 based on Plodder's excellent Whitchurch event, it was nice to be back in Pam's old stomping ground. Some lanes were ultra skoggy though

A heads up for the 1.5AAA Lasham Loop 9 March which now qualifies, that will just be a train down and back for me as I have 3 flat 200s that month
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on February 10, 2013, 11:09:09 am
Had my first independent completers of the Sussexy Beast yesterday.  Their comment was "great ride, very challenging". 

It's getting to the time of year where a 150KM ride can be done in daylight, with lights only needed for being seen.  This gives an opportunity to make a smooth transition to longer hilly events - an extran 50/60km over 100 doesn't sound much, but is just enough to start feeling like a challenge. 

Beyond that you can look forward to the Around Weald 200 and the soon to be submitted "Hills of the Meridian" alternative.

Entries in the usual way.

PS: five AAA Milne entries remain.  Two are being held for riders who have expressed an interest.  So three to be claimed.  If these are not taken up by the end of this month you will have lost your opportunity to ride this particular route as a card based permanent.  (But fear not, Martin's new improved route will more than fill the small hole left by my ride being put to rest).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on February 10, 2013, 11:30:01 am
Mr HillyBilly
 
Sir,
There's an entry in the post today from me.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on February 10, 2013, 12:35:56 pm
Cool.  I'll keep an eye out for your entry.

I was wondering about offering a "group" ride to say farewell to my version of the AAA Milne, for those with cards in their drawers or newly purchased.  Perhaps 24 March.  Failing that, a "sweep up" ride in September to help ensure the cards are used up (it won't be possible to validate them if ridden after 30 September).

Any interest?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on February 10, 2013, 01:19:11 pm
I cannot make march 24 as i am going to a 90th birthday celebration. And no, it's not El's.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 10, 2013, 02:14:35 pm
24/3 is Man of Kent innit? my first flat ride since December 1 (also the Man of Kent perm)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on February 10, 2013, 02:54:02 pm
Ah, in that case, forget 24 March as a group ride.  If there are cards left out in circulation in September, I will bandy the idea of a final hurrah.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Yossarian on February 10, 2013, 07:13:27 pm
I was one of those completing the Sussexy Beast yesterday - I wondered if others had done it before us. It was an excellent route, though relentless with all the climbing! Easy to get to the start from London so perfect for those wanting to make the jump from 100km up to 200km events, I'll do it again later in the season, but first, must complete the Around Weald 200km after dnf'ing it recently.

Very interested in the 300km as well, I was thinking of riding a solo 300 mid march and had thought of putting a couple of your perms together, any idea when you'll have the 300 ready to test out?

Joel 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on February 10, 2013, 07:24:08 pm
I have a rough 300 route in mind.  Lingfield - Preston Park/Brighton - Cranleigh - East Horsley - Pease Pottage - Crowborough - Orpington/Green Street Green - Uckfield - Lingfield.  So takes in 3 of the hilly areas that make up the Weald, as well as Ashdown ridge, and mixes hilly with some flat bits.  Need to try it out though, as at the moment it would use rather too much of the A281 at Horsham.  Possibly in April (at a stretch, first weekend in March).

If it works, it would be "live" from June time.

(Lots of crossover with my planned Meridian 200; it's possible I will drop the idea of the 200 in preference to the 300, depending on the "tempo" of the 300).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on February 10, 2013, 09:14:41 pm
a solo 300
Look at the Man of Kent 300 by Dave Winslade, starts at Tonbridge and goes eastwards across largely flat Kent, lots of food places available, returns to Tonbridge and goes westwards to Lingfield, lots of civilised pubs, shops, etc for food. Not many main roads and not too hilly. Also has trains across the Medway plain and at Tonbridge if weather goes wrong. Trains from London make it accessible, either by getting the first one down or maybe the last one from London, which would give you the chance to ride all night and get an evening train home after finishing.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 23, 2013, 05:46:23 pm
I just rode The Reliable for the first time this year to mark its emergence from hibernation (in reverse, but no easier!)

Usual pothole hazard but no worse than any other roads around these parts.
Roads are clear of Skog TM

Hope it's several (like 20) degrees warmer for the calendar event in May
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on February 23, 2013, 06:19:31 pm
On a scale of 1 to 10, exactly how cold were you by the end? (no fibbing)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 23, 2013, 06:23:20 pm
On a scale of 1 to 10, exactly how cold were you by the end? (no fibbing)

not that bad but my two outer LH fingers had lost all sensation by the end and my toes were a funny blue colour in the shower. The snow attempted to settle around Blackboys but generally it was very light snow and a bastard headwind for 2/3rd of it (including the nominally downhill bit from Brightling)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on February 24, 2013, 07:17:51 pm
I've formally emailed John Ward to withdraw the current AAA Milne with effect from 1 March (i.e. this Friday).  I rode it today, probably my last unless I have unused cards at the end of the year and there is demand for a group ride.  Impressions of the route remain that it shares too much road space with other rides I put on, so has become superfluous.

Completed brevets submitted to me by the end of September will be validated.  Thereafter, the cards will be defunct (although I will allow people to trade up distance to my longer events on request from 1 October).

PS: Anyone wanting a free etrex 20 can spend some time searching the verge on the descent to Kidds Toys from the west (i.e. the side with the pub).  Mine pinged off after hitting a bump, and I didn't see where it bounced, and couldn't find it despite spending a fair amount of time during and after the ride looking for it.  Ho hum, it obviously decided I was a bad master for not fastening it down properly and decided to abscond.  Will need to treat the etrex 30 I've just ordered (a trade up, as I'm attracted by the alleged improvement in recording accuracy offered by the barimetric altimeter) with a little more respect unless I want to spend a painful amount every 6 months or so....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on February 28, 2013, 06:59:25 pm
Rejoice (of sorts).  Tanhurst Lane (the toughest climb to Leith Hill, but also a shocking road surface) is going to get completely fixed, with a new surface.  I feel a celebratory calendar event in 2014 coming on...

http://www1.surreycc.gov.uk/highways/recordUtility.aspx?worksID=MA400-PH70205&id=398265&town=ABINGER&roadName=TANHURST%20LANE

Maybe they'll get round to looking at Logmore Lane at some point.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Phixie on February 28, 2013, 08:11:08 pm
Rejoice (of sorts).  Tanhurst Lane (the toughest climb to Leith Hill, but also a shocking road surface) is going to get completely fixed, with a new surface.  I feel a celebratory calendar event in 2014 coming on...

http://www1.surreycc.gov.uk/highways/recordUtility.aspx?worksID=MA400-PH70205&id=398265&town=ABINGER&roadName=TANHURST%20LANE

Maybe they'll get round to looking at Logmore Lane at some point.

Believe it when it gets done!  This cynic fears it might be like painting round a pothole to convince road users it is due for treatment.  They query that belief when the paint  gets worn off....

As it happens I was recceing your Surrey Hills Perm (Rev Route) today and went up it.  I know that track of old and cannot disagree with anything you have written about it.  I was hopeful that the last tarmac-unfriendly winter would have made it so bad that the council would have repaired it, but no such luck.  In view of your posting an extra supply of patience has been ordered.

BR

RP
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 01, 2013, 10:19:05 pm
the website's now updated with all the confirmed calendar events;

expect Mid Sussex Hilly / Hillier (2009 edition) Oct 19th and The Crown sometime in July;

and the perms section will stabilise once they have all been approved; until then check Hillbilly's and my perms on the AUK website

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mrs Blacksheep on March 02, 2013, 08:01:36 am
Hi Hillbilly

My Etrex vista Hcx had made a bid for freedom, so I now
use it's strap and it can't get away.

Is the Etrex 30 the new model? slimmer, bigger screen, but still uses AA batteries?
If so let me know how you get on with it.

Mrs BlackSheep
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on March 04, 2013, 01:35:39 pm
Did my Meridian Hills 200 yesterday.  This is good to go, with some wonderful cycling (it takes in all 4 hilly ranges in the Sussex area: North downs, South Downs, Ashdown and Greensands; these are all listed as "Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty" being the Kent Downs, Sussex Downs and High Weald AONBs).

Given how enamoured I am of the route, I have submitted as a possible perm to John Ward.  I am hopeful it will be accepted, and so provide an alternative to the Around Weald Expedition.  It may run as a calendar event in 2014.  Anyone who claims cycling in the South East is lacking compared to other parts of the UK really should give this event a try.

I've also got permission to tweak my Surrey Hillier calendar route from what was originally planned.  The revision will be shorter, but roughly the same climbing.  Yet another AONB....

[Now currently thinking how to weave in the Surrey Hills AONB into the Meridian Hills route to create a 300, tentatively called "The Outstandingly Beautiful 300".]
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on March 11, 2013, 06:56:08 am
Entries for my 21 April events are coming in fast and the 100 is now 60% full with 6 weeks to go.  I am restricting numbers to 50 to ensure the field is manageable in this first year of the event.  If you are uhm and ahing don't leave it too late.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 11, 2013, 10:24:43 am
good to cross paths with you yesterday Billy, were there still swarms of spotivistas on top of the forest? there were two events going on including the blatant rip-off of my Hillier (but dumbed down of course)

still waiting for the new AAA Milne to be approved; the 100km route is fairly pothole free. Horsted Keynes station booking hall is a recommended stop on days like yesterday with their open fire  :)

new AAA Milne will hopefully run as a calendar event in 2014 on the same weekend as this year's Reliable
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on March 11, 2013, 12:31:07 pm
The sportive riders were at Balcombe when I got there - they had an awfully hard ascent of West Hill in front of them, having approached it from the easy side (no doubt having taken in Turners "Hill" - why these rides get away with describing themselves as hard, I don't know).  I now get a very particular pleasure in grinding sportive riders into the ground on hills if they have the cheek to overtake me at the bottom with a smug "how you doing".  I also make a point of doing in whilst in the saddle if they are stomping on the pedals.  You can hear them try and up the tempo behind you, only to start panting like a defective steam engine.  I had a fast ascent to Balcombe yesterday precisely because of this.  Well, one has to make one's own entertainment on a solo permanent :demon:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Arry-R on March 11, 2013, 01:47:24 pm
Billy, I still gotta get round LEL but thoughts and legs focused on PBP. Are the dates of the HILLY-Billy 3  4  and 600 known as well as Southern Belle 1000.  Looking 4ward to this flagship event and hope it will not have a piddly entry restricted to 50 or so as it could get 100's I fink.  I ave enjoyed Billys event B4 so roll on...where will they all be going?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on March 11, 2013, 02:34:54 pm
Let's get this season out of the way first...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on March 14, 2013, 02:22:58 pm
Meridian Hills live.  A new 200km permanent in the South East, which visits 3 areas of outstanding natural beauty (North Downs, South Downs and High Weald).  Highlights include Ditchling Beacon, Devil's Dyke, Toy's Hill, Ide Hill and Sundridge Hill.  Crosses the Ashdown Forest not once, not twice, but thrice (and without repitition too).  A hard 3.5 AAA; very little overlap with my other 200km grimpeur.

Possible starts in Forest Row, Brighton, Crowborough, Green St Green, Balcombe/Pease Pottage, Mayfield.

Map, routesheet and gpx will be added to the AUK web page this evening. (done)

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/WW11/

Will take a little while for brevet cards to be printed (as a new rebranded design is apparently being released by AUK, so I am holding back for those).  Whilst this could mean 6 weeks until I get printed brevet cards, it is possible to "come to an arrangement" which works around this.  In other words, don't let it hold back your entries.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: daniele on March 14, 2013, 02:41:38 pm
Meridian Hills live.

Possible starts in Forest Row, 8) Brighton :thumbsup:, Crowborough, Green St Green, Balcombe/Pease Pottage, Mayfield.

Map, routesheet and gpx will be added to the AUK web page this evening.


yeeeAAAhhh!!!!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on March 17, 2013, 07:05:13 pm
Imagine my delight, as Martin gave me a Grimpeur d'Or badge this morning at the Invicta.  Yay for badges!  Yay for GdS!

It is rumoured that this badge has mystical powers, imbued by the dark pagan magic of the Cantiaci tribes, having the peculiar effect of making the bearer lighter, so helping them grimp up hills in the South East.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 17, 2013, 07:43:46 pm
Imagine my delight, as Martin gave me a Grimpeur d'Or badge this morning at the Invicta.  Yay for badges!  Yay for GdS!

well actually it's a x5 badge but is d'Or. A Grimpeur d'Or is someone who has done 10 events in a year (which as it happens you've also done)

whatever; you deserve it Hillbilly; now bring home the bacon to put GdS riders in the AAA silverware for the 3rd consecutive year  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on March 20, 2013, 07:18:58 am
Less than a month until entries to my Surrey Hillier event close (no entries on the line).  There are 10 8 places left to fill on this new 100km event through the Surrey Hills AONB, which offers many fantastic vistas over the Mole Valley and to the surrounds of Surrey.  This event is GdS eligible.  Once they are gone, they are gone.  Just saying...

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-572/

Gpx file uploaded (and outline map).  Route sheet is going to be available within a fortnight or so (is written but not fully tested).

There is a shorter non-GdS ride on the same day (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/13-573/) for those wanting a more relaxed day, but that is also filling up steadily and around 20 entries left.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 29, 2013, 03:12:39 pm
AAA Milne is back! a new route sharing only Friars Gate with Hillbilly's route, thereafter Twyford Lane (down) and down to the charming village of Barcombe before steam train-spotting all the way up to the newly opened Bluebell Railway station at East Grinstead. Definitely at the easier end of the scale like The Reliable. I'll be christening it on Monday!

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/MM02/


Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on March 29, 2013, 04:48:40 pm
AAA Milne is back!
When the postman empties the postbox outside my house on Tuesday he will be picking up an envelope containing two entries for this perm.
Many thanks for your efforts
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 01, 2013, 08:56:39 pm
and they're off! rode AAA Milne (new route) today; if I say so myself an improvement on the old one with much gentler and longer climbs and some sublime descents on quiet lanes. Being Ashdown Forest you will of course bump into old bits here and there and I make no apology for Friars Gate as this is an iconic climb which no ride out here should miss  :)

Barcombe is a more salubrious location than the petrol station in Uckfield but be aware that the shop shuts 1400 on Sunday so a perfect excuse for a pint of Harveys in the Royal Oak

students of my Mid Sussex events will find the odd familiar bit here and there but not enough to make the ride feel samey

will be running it as a £1 calendar event in 2014; probably based in East Grinstead  'spoons
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 02, 2013, 02:54:22 pm
One place remaining on the Surrey Hillier (21 April).  Once it goes, entries close.

Surrey Hillier is full.  No further entries being accepted (switched off entries on website).  No entries on the line.  An email will be sent out to entrants today/tomorrow confirming details etc.  Postal entries datestamped before today will honoured, all others returned.

The 60km Surrey Hills event still has spaces (postal entries for the Hillier datestamped today onwards will be given the option of transferring to this, or else I will simply return the entry).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 03, 2013, 01:07:11 pm
AAA Milne routesheet and gpx file have been added to the perm page
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 06, 2013, 08:45:29 pm
I rode Hillbilly's new 200 Meridian Hills today as training  :hand: for the Elenydd

A damned hard ride! but fantastic combining bits of the old AAA Milne and a reverse of Down to Downs although the Southern bit is all new. Best bits were 40 deer at the top of the
first climb of Ashdown Forest; the low sun in my eyes on Ditchling Beacon, watching trains go
over Balcombe viaduct (a nice deviation) and blatting down Kidds Hill at the
end. Some nice new lanes around Penshurst and Hever too (although I know
Uckfield Lane from club runs)

worst bits; well there's only one the climb up to Crowborough; hate it!

It is February isn't it? there's no way there would be sheet ice across the road in April

so now I have no excuse to ever leave The Shire  :)

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 08, 2013, 11:26:30 am
Crowborough.  Yes, I know.  I would love to suggest the one you descend, but this adds too many km to the "standard" route - continue to Friars Gate and then left to pass Holders.  Perhaps I will suggest it on the route notes (when produced) for riders with time in hand, as I too am not a great fan of the B road climb.

Oh, and I got route cards printed due to a steady flow of entries (but on the "old" format of card, I think).  It has the event logo on them.  These cards arrived over the weekend and will be issued going forward, so the need for "special arrangements" has fallen away.

Lastly, all this talk of Hardboiled being the toughest 300 has put me in mind to see if the South East can best it, whilst still providing an enjoyable day out.  I have a plan, which I will be testing on 28 April as a DIY, with a possible view to running it in 2014.  If anyone wants to try a Sussex/Kent 300 GdS eligible rollercoaster of a ride, PM me.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 09, 2013, 06:36:50 pm
Surrey Hillier and Surrey Hills entrants should have received an email from me (Billy Weir) in the last week or so confirming registration and providing information about the event.

The nature of the email means that it might be trapped in spam filters - please check these.  If you don't have details despite that, send me an email at the address listed on the Audax website.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: scottlington on April 10, 2013, 01:03:35 pm
Surrey Hillier and Surrey Hills entrants should have received an email from me (Billy Weir) in the last week or so confirming registration and providing information about the event.

The nature of the email means that it might be trapped in spam filters - please check these.  If you don't have details despite that, send me an email at the address listed on the Audax website.

White Down twice in one day? You are an evil man Hillbilly....  ;D

Being local, I've done all these climbs many times. Just not ALL of them in ONE day.... my mate's bought one of those SRAM WiFLi things especially for this. Me, I'll remian in 34/29 lowest gear. Should be fun then...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 10, 2013, 04:18:29 pm
it only goes up White Down once?

if it goes up twice I'm having my GdO badge back  ;)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 10, 2013, 05:18:30 pm
I think you mistunderstood Martin.  I said riders will only throw up on White Down once :demon:

The main climbs on the 100 are thusly:

Coldharbour Lane (steep at bottom, great views at top)
White Down (steep at bottom, great views at top)
Shophouse/Winterfold (wooded climb)
Barhatch (steep)
Holmbury Hill (steep at bottom, great views at top)
White Down (see above)
Green Barns (steep in middle, great views at bottom and top)
Abinger Lane/ Leith Hill (great views at bottom and top)
Broomehall (great views at bottom and top)
Box Hill (great views at top)

(on the 50, Coldharbour, Holmbury, Barhatch, Cobb, Green Dene, Box Hill)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 10, 2013, 09:16:05 pm
Well noted.  The views are at the bottom looking up, not at the top looking down.  All the better to put the fear of the climb into the unaware, as they think "I have to get from here, to there...".  I find the 16% sign and the hairpin bend adds to the effect when the gradient proper starts....

In practice, this ride is 3 ascents of Leith Hill, 3 of the Ranmore ridge and 2 of Winterfold.  Plus bonus climbs because I love you all so much and want you all to share the out of body experiences I have been enjoying over the winter researching this route...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 14, 2013, 04:43:57 pm
The ride doesn't usually reside on this board but a reminder for the IOW Randonnee on Sun May 5th which is eligible as a GdS if done as a DIY by gps; a tiddly 1.5AAA but a grand day out  :)

anyone else?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 14, 2013, 08:16:13 pm
Rode the Sussexy Beast today.  I am going to update the route sheet and gpx to modify a small section of the route (just after Wadhurst, via Bells Yew Green) as the road I currently suggest has not fared well over winter and is not suitable for the standard of events I want to be known for (it is potholed, cracked, gravelled and - given it is a steep downhill - only suitable for the most bold/wreckless of randonneurs).

So, if you have printed out a route sheet or the gpx, please refresh it later this week (the file will have a "date" after today).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: scottlington on April 14, 2013, 09:33:55 pm
Did the Surrey Hillier today (well, most of it - missed out White Down for the second time and also didn't bother climbing Box Hill at the end). Turned out to be a fine day out and managed to overheat of the later climbs - a first for this year...

Roads pretty scoggy and some mahoosive potholes out there so be careful descending especially if there's been any rain as they become submerged under puddles...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 14, 2013, 09:52:36 pm
Did the Surrey Hillier today (well, most of it - missed out White Down for the second time and also didn't bother climbing Box Hill at the end). Turned out to be a fine day out and managed to overheat of the later climbs - a first for this year...

Roads pretty scoggy and some mahoosive potholes out there so be careful descending especially if there's been any rain as they become submerged under puddles...

Can you PM me the lanes that you felt were particularly affected.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 18, 2013, 06:32:39 am
Both of Sunday's events from Box Hill (Surrey Hills and Surrey Hillier) are now full and no further entries are being accepted.  There is no waiting list and no  entries on the line.  A second email will be sent to entrants this evening.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 18, 2013, 01:24:29 pm
Both of Sunday's events from Box Hill (Surrey Hills and Surrey Hillier) are now full and no further entries are being accepted.  There is no waiting list and no  entries on the line.  A second email will be sent to entrants this evening.

out of interest did you get much interest from non-AUKs / Usual Suspects?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 18, 2013, 02:06:08 pm
Both of Sunday's events from Box Hill (Surrey Hills and Surrey Hillier) are now full and no further entries are being accepted.  There is no waiting list and no  entries on the line.  A second email will be sent to entrants this evening.

out of interest did you get much interest from non-AUKs / Usual Suspects?

By far non-AUKs.  80% on 50km ride and 60% on the 100km ride.

The usual suspects feature, just not all of them (in part because they will be westward doing the HoE 300). 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 21, 2013, 06:09:55 am
I hope you all like bananas and cake....

See you grimpeur fans at Box Hill Village Hall this morning - if the weather is anything like yesterday, you are in for a good day bimbling around the hills of Surrey AONB.

"The hills are alive, with the sound of grunting"
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: blueskies on April 21, 2013, 06:46:52 pm
Thanks Billy for organising this event, only 100km but fair packs a punch.

I'm no grimpeur, but I entered this very much in the spirt of practice most what you like doing least, and if nothing else got plenty of practice. Weather was pretty much perfect all day, I know many of these climbs from previous 'practice' but never strung so many together on a single ride. Whitedown was the usual grind, had to dodge lots of walkers from the sportive on the second pass - welcome to the Surrey Hills. Barhatch Lane was as monstrous as ever, probably quicker for me to walk up the last part of that one. I hit the deck on one of the descents, ran off the road due to a car stopping and lost control of the bike, no harm done to man or machine. Some new climbs for me that I almost enjoyed inlcude the long ascent out of Peaslake, and the Col D'harbour at the end. Happy to finish in a respectable 5'20", and peach slices at the arrivee made for a great finale. I rode home, back over the 20% climb from Mickleham over into Bookham, and even scalped a few in Richmond Park. 190km on the clock for the day.

One final positive note - on my last 3 calendar rides this year i've met up and rode round with Audax newbies, younger, fitter and faster than me but all looking for a challenge beyond the Sportive scene. Congratulations to all organisers for opening up our particular form of 2-wheeled torture enjoyment to a wider audience.

Next up for me, the BCM...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on April 21, 2013, 08:06:11 pm
Great ride and a great day to be riding.

A good mix of super steep beasts and long long drags (the one from Peaslake and Shophouse Lane to mention two) all compacted in 100 km made it a varied and challenging ride. I enjoyed the snatches of views along the route especially to the right on the final haul up Leith Hill and of course from Box Hill at the beginning and end.

Ta very much to Billy and his supporting crew.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 21, 2013, 09:34:50 pm
I can only echo PatC; as it says on the GdS webpage "see the best of the region from the saddle" and this ride provided plenty of that; perhaps more than another Surrey Hills calendar event I can think of. White Down (even twice) was nothing like the horror I remembered; having a triple and some legs makes a difference.

I ECE'd from home via a circular route which though very rolling was a breeze compared to the main course; hopefully worth another point in my quest for "some points"


thanks Hillbily for a grand day out  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: scottlington on April 22, 2013, 07:59:07 am
Well, I wrote a great big long ride report only to stupidly and accidentally press some combination of keys that wiped the whole thing.  >:( No way I CBA to write it out again so I will confine myself to saying thanks Billy for a great route, great weather and a great day out!

Also to Manotea for manning the controls and to the other members of Redhill CC helping out on the day. Good to chat (if briefly) to BlueSkies and Martin OTP and just to say that spending 5.5 hours in some of the North Downs' best countryside up some of the best climbs in the area certainly makes those two pints in the pub afterwards feel more then deserved!!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 28, 2013, 02:07:18 pm
Had my first independent completers of the Sussexy Beast yesterday.  Their comment was "great ride, very challenging". 

I'd echo that; took it very easy with an Oxted start as I knew what was to come. Some nice bits not done on other rides are the descent off the forest into Forest Row from Sharpthorne and the iconic section after Toys Hill over Crockham Hill

just polished off a pure GdS week with the new metric version of AAA Milne; highly recommended as an evening ride; deer heaven!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 29, 2013, 06:33:18 pm
One of the pleasures of riding at the top and tail of the day in the Ashdown area is seeing herds of deer.  I saw dozens herding at the top of Priory Road on Saturday morning at c. 6am.  Framed by a stout treeline standing guard in silouette, each trunk and finger of the branches darkened by the relief of a low slung rising sun, a few herds nervously watched me from the midst of a gentle mist of evaporating dew.  Makes getting up at silly o'clock seem almost sensible.

Will need to plan things so that I have a chance of experiencing it again when I rock up for your AAA Milne.  As it criss-crosses the forest, I suspect there will be a good chance of seeing a hart in the heart of Sussex.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 29, 2013, 11:48:08 pm
you'll almost never see deer in broad daylight on the forest (although they often congregate during the day down near Fletching). Best places are The Goat (top of Priory Road) Twyford Lane and the lane between the Kidds Hill ford and Pooh car park. Some scary moments descending to Chuck Hatch with them running across the road in front of you; I've even see them at the bottom of Cob Lane

anyone ever seen any in the Surrey Hills? I believe there are some

my original design for the badge featured deer on top of the forest; Leith Hill Tower, Dover Castle etc, I settled for a "cloud"

(http://www.fotothing.com/photos/9a8/9a8245c05fd589ebf623fc81ed5699e3.jpg)

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on April 30, 2013, 06:48:53 am
In the Surrey Hills?  Rarely.  More often  old dears riding horses.

My logo for the Sussexy Beast has deers on it.  Once I get through my stock of original cards (with the original, but now superceded event name) I'll be issuing cards for the imperial with that rather elegant picture.  I think one of your cards had it pasted  in, Martin, partly because I recalled your comments about deer posted on here a couple times so thought you'd appreciate it.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: scottlington on April 30, 2013, 12:26:56 pm
As it happens, I was out in the Leith Hill area on  Sunday on the MTB and one burst through the trees about 30 yds in fron tof me as I was descending a rocky path not too far from the summit of Leith Hill. I have seen a few before when out and about but they are not a common sight in daylight.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: JordanCarroll on April 30, 2013, 01:34:14 pm
I saw a deer a few weeks back on an LFGSS tuesday night ride, forgot which descent though...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: JordanCarroll on April 30, 2013, 01:35:08 pm
And i thought the "cloud" on teh badge was an outline of Surrey county :p

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Surrey_UK_locator_map_2010.svg/200px-Surrey_UK_locator_map_2010.svg.png)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 30, 2013, 04:00:58 pm
And i thought the "cloud" on teh badge was an outline of Surrey county :p

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Surrey_UK_locator_map_2010.svg/200px-Surrey_UK_locator_map_2010.svg.png)

Surrey?  (spit!) there was only one qualifying event there when it was set up! It started as a map of the whole of the qualifying region but that just looks like a cornflake on paper (and to date only Manotea's come up with one North of the River). When we lost a few long standing events we extended the region to include Hampshire and the IOW which still have some, and that is what the map represents. The white colour represents err chalk
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on April 30, 2013, 06:15:33 pm


The white colour represents err chalk
[/quote]

..and the stars are the what the riders see when they've just ridden up Yorks Hill / White Down / etc. 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on May 07, 2013, 01:20:42 pm
Did the AAA Milne (or AAA Malins as I called my RideWithGPS file) on the weekend just gone by. 

Wonderful use of the Ashdown Forest, perhaps the best I have experienced on an audax event.  Made me rather envious as a route setter, with a journey through Pooh's stomping ground that is worthy of the reference to his creator. 

I can do nothing other than recommend a trip to East Grinstead for the simple pleasure of (getting out of there as quickly as possible and then) riding a bike in lovely countryside.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 13, 2013, 09:05:27 pm
I can do nothing other than recommend a trip to East Grinstead for the simple pleasure of (getting out of there as quickly as possible and then) riding a bike in lovely countryside.

harrumph!

the madness continues with a new award Grimpeurs des Etoiles; 5 rides mostly in darkness which I completed on the above ride last night. Good lights essential but you will be rewarded with Ashdown Forest at its nocturnal best (as I rolled into Forest Row I was treated to a whole family of deer complete with two extreme young 'uns crossing the road)

I believe a GdS SR is imminent too (not me!)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 22, 2013, 04:15:08 pm
and more;

I just completed 5 rides in as many days; GdS dos a dos
(sits back and waits to be beaten; multiple rides on one day count but 200s which my first was only count as one ride)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on June 16, 2013, 04:45:33 pm
I believe a GdS SR is imminent too (not me!)

Only the 600 to go...

(The 400 has been one of the hardest rides I've done to date.  Thank god I slotted in a flattish night section to Seaford).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PaulOlmo on July 05, 2013, 02:08:26 pm

Why start a new thread when you exhume a perfectly good old one?

Just a reminder that the Crown will take place on the 14th July from Kennington/Ashford. Route sheet will be going out shortly, but there is still time to enter before next weekend.

Paul
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on July 10, 2013, 05:42:18 pm
Having decided to focus on offering Randonneur events in the South East rather than Populaires (and partly in reaction to the introduction of PayPal for perms) I am looking for new organisers to take over the following well used permanent events in the South East:

Surrey Hills 50 (Dorking - Cranleigh controls)
Down to Downs 100 (Edenbridge - Green St Green - Langton Green - Uckfield controls)
Sussexy Beast 160 (Oxted - Uckfield - Balcombe - Wadhurst controls)

The latter two events are GdS eligible.  Each receives a steady number of entries every year (20 as a rule of thumb) and tend to have their "regulars" who will ride them, erm, regularly.  The 50km ride attracts local riders dipping their toe into the AAA water to test the temperature (as well as being a "banker" for the AAARTY), the Down to Downs gets the widest range of entrants, whereas the Sussexy Beast is - anecdotally - taken up more as a stepping stone to a 200.
 
If you are interested in taking these permanent events over from 1 October 2013, please PM me.  If a new organiser does not come forward, they will disappear from the perm listing from that date.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 11, 2013, 10:52:34 pm
I've marked Billy's excellent Meridian Hills 3.5AAA 200 as a calendar event on Sat 5th July 2014

almost the same as the perm version but an East Grinstead start / finish and a slightly shorter section in Brighton. Similar catering arrangements to the Around Weald Expedition with an alfresco lunch in Mayfield and a pub finish.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on July 12, 2013, 10:39:24 am
from 1 October 2013, please PM me.  If a new organiser does not come forward, they will disappear from the perm listing from that date.
In that case zi ought to ride the Down to Downs and use up that brevet sitting in the drawer....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on July 13, 2013, 05:18:01 am
*gulp*

5am: Oh well, here goes.  GdS 600 attempt #1. Officially nervous about the next 40hrs...

10am: 100k at Seaford.  Placcid Channel with Seven Sisters looking to the East.  Great ride so far.

3pm:  200k at Herstmonceux.  Scorchio but glad to be in Weald with its tree cover.  Coast at Bexhill was heaving with sizzling Brits.  Summer anyone?  Flat bits running out - venturing northwards...

Halfway point.  Subdued sunset over Ashdown Forest.  Sixhours until sleep... 

0245. At home after 400km.  Tough so far.  Hopeefukky 4 hrs sleep will recover my legs.

8am.  Here we go again.

500km - everything hurts and the world is on fire.

8pm ish: ta da. GDS SR #1 done.  Hard.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: marcusjb on July 13, 2013, 07:35:45 am
Bonne courage Monsieur!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on July 14, 2013, 08:20:45 pm
Veni vidi vici.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 14, 2013, 09:08:57 pm
I am not worthy  :thumbsup:

 a fantastic achievement and you have  created a new GdS award GsSSR

a very hot and bothered weekend but I managed 400km and 7AAA in 3 rides; topped off with a Hurricane display over Ardingly

the SE is the plAAAce to be!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on July 15, 2013, 10:52:40 am

Why start a new thread when you exhume a perfectly good old one?

Just a reminder that the Crown will take place on the 14th July from Kennington/Ashford. Route sheet will be going out shortly, but there is still time to enter before next weekend.

Paul

Thanks very much to Paul and family and other helpers for another great edition of The Crown!
Looking forward to PatC's Forts and Ferries in 2 weeks.

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on July 15, 2013, 12:53:56 pm

Why start a new thread when you exhume a perfectly good old one?

Just a reminder that the Crown will take place on the 14th July from Kennington/Ashford. Route sheet will be going out shortly, but there is still time to enter before next weekend.

Paul

Thanks very much to Paul and family and other helpers for another great edition of The Crown!
Looking forward to PatC's Forts and Ferries in 2 weeks.

Thanks to Paul and all the helpers on The Crown, good to see some of the usual faces and also a few Audax newbies on the ride.

Wasn't as hot as I thought it might be possibly due to a nice cooling breeze off the Channel although it did seem to heat up on the return leg once we'd come away from the coast. 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: aregister on July 15, 2013, 12:59:30 pm
Wasn't as hot as I thought it might be possibly due to a nice cooling breeze off the Channel although it did seem to heat up on the return leg once we'd come away from the coast.
Even Daniele - a native of Sicily - thought Kingsmill Down was hot on that return leg.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PaulOlmo on July 15, 2013, 10:31:53 pm
Yes Pat - I think the car was showing 21 degrees when I left the St. Margarets control, but by the time I was in Kennington it was 26.5. I also suspect that the wind had swung from NE to SE putting it in your face for a bit on the way  home as well.

Thanks for your support everyone, I won't make the F&F as I will only just be back from the US, but maybe see you at the ToH.

Paul.

p.s. and a few select photos ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/39575473@N02/sets/72157634655766392/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 03, 2013, 01:11:05 pm
My (as Hillbilly calls it) cycling Groundhog Day continued with a 32rd ride round the new AAA Milne route today, I've ridden it forwards and reverse many times morning noon and night but today I did a new twist which was to reverse just the Eastern loop; climbing up Chuck Hatch and descending Friars Gate to Groombridge before heading up to "the most commanding view in the South" from the Wych Cross road;

I was planning a farewell ride to the old Hillbilly version some time before Sept 15th if anyone's interested in making a day of it? otherwise it will be a lonely night-time plod probably followed by a trip to a local A/E  ::-)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on August 03, 2013, 04:58:33 pm
I was planning a farewell ride to the old Hillbilly version some time before Sept 15th if anyone's interested in making a day of it? otherwise it will be a lonely night-time plod probably followed by a trip to a local A/E  ::-)

I do have a card for the old AAA Milne but am unlikely to use it before the cut off date. I'm quite happy to send it to anyone if anyone wants it.   
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 05, 2013, 06:35:37 pm
I have two cards at home in the unlikely event that there is a surge of interest in riding the old aaa milne (in lower case to suggest its inferiority to the AAA Malins).

I can't ride it before 1 October, due to other aaaspirations.

(As for my other populaires, I've had interest expressed in taking on the Surrey Hills and Down to Downs, so it is likely these will live on in some form.  The Sussexy Beast hasn't attracted interest from others, so may wither and die).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Old Git on August 13, 2013, 10:30:04 pm
With the new season a few weeks away, it is time to set goals. With this year being a wash out for me, no GdS, Essex SR or LEL, due to reasons beyond my control.I am keen to start off with a GdS. So are any dates set yet??
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 14, 2013, 11:17:10 am
With the new season a few weeks away, it is time to set goals. With this year being a wash out for me, no GdS, Essex SR or LEL, due to reasons beyond my control.I am keen to start off with a GdS. So are any dates set yet??

not many definite dates but assuming next year's events go ahead as per this year expect

Jan Hills and Mills
Feb Mad Jack John Seviour Memorial
Mar Invicta Grimpeur / Lasham loop
April Supremo's South Coast
May IOW Randonnee
July (5th definite date) Meridian Hills 200 and The Crown
August Tour of the Hills
September Hengist's Hills
October Mid Sussex Hilly / Hillier

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Old Git on August 14, 2013, 11:21:00 am
Many thanks I will pencil them in. I am doing this years tour if the hills this Sunday. I am off down the shops for a new pair if legs (climbers)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Plodder on August 14, 2013, 11:43:40 am
With the new season a few weeks away, it is time to set goals. With this year being a wash out for me, no GdS, Essex SR or LEL, due to reasons beyond my control.I am keen to start off with a GdS. So are any dates set yet??

not many definite dates but assuming next year's events go ahead as per this year expect

Jan Hills and Mills
Feb Mad Jack John Seviour Memorial
Mar Invicta Grimpeur / Lasham loop
April Supremo's South Coast
May IOW Randonnee
July (5th definite date) Meridian Hills 200 and The Crown
August Tour of the Hills
September Hengist's Hills
October Mid Sussex Hilly / Hillier


30th November 2013 - Whitchurch Winter Wind-down
</shameless plug>
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Old Git on August 14, 2013, 12:43:30 pm
With the new season a few weeks away, it is time to set goals. With this year being a wash out for me, no GdS, Essex SR or LEL, due to reasons beyond my control.I am keen to start off with a GdS. So are any dates set yet??

not many definite dates but assuming next year's events go ahead as per this year expect

Jan Hills and Mills
Feb Mad Jack John Seviour Memorial
Mar Invicta Grimpeur / Lasham loop
April Supremo's South Coast
May IOW Randonnee
July (5th definite date) Meridian Hills 200 and The Crown
August Tour of the Hills
September Hengist's Hills
October Mid Sussex Hilly / Hillier


30th November 2013 - Whitchurch Winter Wind-down
</shameless plug>

Also on my list.. Now
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 14, 2013, 01:05:36 pm
30th November 2013 - Whitchurch Winter Wind-down
</shameless plug>

Also on my list.. Now
[/quote]

+1; one of my favourite routes even better ECE'd to 200  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on August 14, 2013, 08:54:23 pm
With the new season a few weeks away, it is time to set goals. With this year being a wash out for me, no GdS, Essex SR or LEL, due to reasons beyond my control.I am keen to start off with a GdS. So are any dates set yet??

As the GdS year runs from Jan-Dec you've got 4.5 months left of this year and 5 qualifying events. 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Old Git on August 14, 2013, 10:19:38 pm
Really that sounds very interesting. I will look them up.. Thanks for the info I thought it was the same as the Audax season
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Old Git on August 14, 2013, 11:10:43 pm
So still to come in 2013:

18.8.13 Tour of the Hills - already signed up

29.9.13 Hengist's Hills - now signed up

5.10.13 AAAnfractuous -already signed up

19.10.13 Mid Sussex Hilly/Hillier - cannot do on hols

30.11.13 Whitchurch winter wind down - now signed up

Plus any of the perms - yet to pick one - any advice - will ride it in Sept

Seems very doable  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 15, 2013, 06:53:21 am
Any of the perms will be a nice day out (the Around Weald Expedition is, however, less refined than the others - more for the hard men and women).

Martin and my perms have different tempos. If I was to summarisr Martin's routes, it is that they hunt out hills like a dog hunting for a buried bone.  Of his rides I prefer the AAA Milne. It includes the best use of the Ashdown Forest of any ride I've done. It also suits my riding preference which is hinted at below...

My perms are more longer climbs with rolling bits between. Whilst they hunt out hills also, I am more direct, like a dog chasing a ball. I enjoy them all, but Meridian is the more complete experience (it does  3 of the hill ranges in the SE).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 15, 2013, 01:20:39 pm
Any of the perms will be a nice day out (the Around Weald Expedition is, however, less refined than the others - more for the hard men and women).

Martin and my perms have different tempos. If I was to summarisr Martin's routes, it is that they hunt out hills like a dog hunting for a buried bone.  My perms are more longer climbs with rolling bits between. Whilst they hunt out hills also, I am more direct, like a dog chasing a ball.

TBF I could hardly start with a blank canvas, even using every possible climb with the exception of Kidds Hill AAA Milne only spends about 36 of its 105km on the Forest; I've added some local quiet lanes from mine and other peeps' routes

Reliable is also not mine, it was a Reliability Trial route designed to be covered at speed (and IIRC over half the original field were out of time having hopelessly underestimated how long a hilly 100 in East Sussex takes). But it does benefit from long sweeping descents with good wide well surfaced roads. Both of my routes have flattish sections before the final onslaught at the finish. But both can easily be ridden on a bike with a normal double chainset and cassette. They are also more info-controlled compared to Billy's

Meridian and AAA Milne (new version) share some common turf, mainly around Ashdown Forest although in a different order. I was even thinking of running both on the same day as a calendar event but thar would require more helpers,

I've only got 3 more nocturnal rides to do this season, last night's muggy damp ride with freshly deposited gravel and misty glasses and dark roads which LED lights don't illuminate well convinced me of the wisdom of this,

all being well my last one will also be my last ride of Hillbilly's old original AAA Milne route
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 19, 2013, 03:03:36 pm
Chapeau to bikergirl17 of another parish on becoming the latest Grimpeuse on yesterday's Tour Of the Hills;

my 5th time and I think we've had rain for 3 of them but it waited until nearly the end before really setting in; made Bar(stard)hatch Lane all the more sporting at the top as I didn't dare ride out of the saddle in case the rear wheel span and forced me to stop; to be passed by a motley collection of old British cars was a nice touch

many thanks Don for a cracking ride with spot on nutrition! nice to see the usual suspects, see you all in Chailey as I'll miss Hengist's Hills
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 19, 2013, 05:43:41 pm
Funny that nobody ever writes Bar(illiant)hatch.

Quick question, as I may ride over in the Surrey Hills this BH weekend.  I've heard tales that Surrey CC have resurfaced Coldharbour Lane and that it is a bit of a dogs dinner because they used loose chippings on top of the black stuff.  Is it ok to go up/down, or best circumvented?

Oh, and did it look like the works on Tanhurst Lane had finished?  You know, the nasty climb up Leith Hill from the Forest Green/Holmbury road.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on August 19, 2013, 08:04:13 pm




Oh, and did it look like the works on Tanhurst Lane had finished?  You know, the nasty climb up Leith Hill from the Forest Green/Holmbury road.

Looked like it, I glanced down to see a smooth black surface, no 'men at work' or 'road closed' signs.   
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 19, 2013, 08:19:57 pm
Funny that nobody ever writes Bar(illiant)hatch.

that's where you and I differ; a ball wrenching lung busting climb for a view of nothing IMO but each to his own  :)

Coldharbour was fine; seems to have settled in a lot since it was resurfaced; although it appears to have got twice as long since last year

OTOH the descent to Duddleswell has had the same treatment so take care on the new AAA Milne when turning into Toll Lane  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 19, 2013, 08:45:29 pm
Really that sounds very interesting. I will look them up.. Thanks for the info I thought it was the same as the Audax season

it was; then they changed the AUK season to Oct-Sept which left the traditional last event of the season (Mid Sussex Hilly / Hillier) isolated at the beginning with no events until January so it made sense to make it a calendar year
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 26, 2013, 06:06:36 pm
just put some flyers together so a heads up for what's left in 2013 / what's to come in 2014, unless you want to try the perms which also are attracting big interest

Sep 29 Hengist's Hills
Oct 5   AAAnfractuous 200 (new)
Oct 19 Mid Sussex Hilly and Hillier (Hillier now 2AAA)
Nov 30 Whitchurch Winter Wind-Down

Mar 8  Lasham Loop
Mar 16 Invicta Grimpeur
Apr 13 Hell of the Sussex Coastal Hills
May 4 IOW Randonnee
July 5 Meridian Hills 200 (new; there is no 100km Wimpeur option as that month is usually well covered)

another new one is the Kent Hop Garden 200 which is now worth 1.75AAA for the first 100, probably in May

nothing from Mad Jack?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Phixie on August 26, 2013, 07:38:21 pm
I think Hengist's Hills is on 29th Sept - mot the 26th.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Old Git on August 26, 2013, 10:20:08 pm
I think Hengist's Hills is on 29th Sept - mot the 26th.

Correct  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on August 27, 2013, 11:35:55 am
July 5 Meridian Hills 200 (new; there is no 100km Wimpeur option as that month is usually well covered)

Wimpeur.  Like it. 

I'd always mentally called it Gayrimping (in my casually non-PC way.  No offence intended.  Some of my best friends etc etc.)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 27, 2013, 11:39:57 am
July 5 Meridian Hills 200 (new; there is no 100km Wimpeur option as that month is usually well covered)

Wimpeur.  Like it.  I'd always mentally called it Gayrimping (in my casually non-PC way.  No offence intended.  Some of my best friends etc etc.)

actually Wimpeur is a bit harsh because the 100km option would likely have been my AAA Milne. the only SE based AAA ride that perhaps merits the term is the 50km Invicta Hilly which is of course not GdS eligible,

entries for the Mid Sussex Hillier rolling in, only one for the Hilly though  :-\ looks like I'll be ordering blank brevet cards for the 20 minimum order for the latter
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Arry-R on August 27, 2013, 02:46:18 pm

nothing from Mad Jack?


Aint he aving time off?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on September 01, 2013, 11:04:50 am

nothing from Mad Jack?


Aint he aving time off?

Last I heard he's lurking on here! :-)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on September 03, 2013, 09:34:34 pm
Hills and Mills current status- at project stage, date 25/1/2014 (one week later than in 2013)
same route as 2013/ Cafe controls.

Mad Jacks JSM 2014- (possibly same date/Cafe control as usual)  TBA.

A
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 03, 2013, 10:26:31 pm
Thanks MJ;

a welcome addition to the list  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 06, 2013, 01:47:14 am
I rode Hillbilly's old AAA Milne for the very last time tonight; a feisty little ride compared to my version and still the only GdS 100 to do Kidds Hill although I managed that in the middle ring tonight. I was doing well until I had to stop for a pint at Langton Green  :P (petrol station was shut) and left my shades there, didn't realise until half way up the Forest to Uckfield so carried on and had to retrace to collect them before going on to Edenbridge;

so one of the first two GdS perms passes into history; sadly missed but Milne is Dead; Long Live Milne  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 06, 2013, 07:15:57 am
Given the logo in the brevet card....

(http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/d/dead_pooh_bear-12683.jpg)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 08, 2013, 11:36:15 am
I meant to post last week that there have been a significant number of roadworks over the summer in the Surrey Hills, and they have greatly improved most of the roads. 

The prime example is Tanhurst Lane (off Leith Hill) which is (for) now a smooth ribbon of blacktop that is a joy to ascend and descend.  The former is relative to what was there before - it is still a bitch of a climb.

Elsewhere in the South East, both Kent and Sussex councils are patching up roads at a fair pace.  Whilst there still remains some roads that are not cycle friendly (in terms of road quality) these are increasingly in the minority.

Bravo!  I was much impressed after a few months not travelling those roads.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 08, 2013, 11:41:20 am
I did my last South East ride of the 2012/13 AUK season yesterday.  Thank god.  I've just about exhausted the permutation of hilly roads that can be strung together down here.  If I never climb White Down Lane again, it will be too soon.

Just a few more SE based grimpeurs to endure over the remainder of 2013 (to keep my 2xBRAARTTY going) and then I can shake off the MAAAnacles and explore more diverse bits of my stomping ground (oh Dungeness, how I long to ride along your long flat roads reflecting on how the wind always seems to be against me).  Who knows, some might turn into future calendar events.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 09, 2013, 09:33:16 am
a couple more sub-awards coming in 2014;

1. A special GdS 100 badge to mark the new award (assuming I can order sufficiently few of them; there was no minimum for the gold badge)
2. The stamp collectors award; every calendar event and perm in 1 year
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on September 10, 2013, 11:59:14 am
Ladies and Gentlemen, I present two classic original East Sussex
AAA events revitalized for your enjoyment in the 2014 season -

Hills and Mills- http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/14-77/

Mad Jacks JSM http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/14-85/

I thank you kindly  ;)


MJ
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Hillbilly on September 30, 2013, 07:24:12 pm
The Sussexy Beast 160, Down to Downs 100 and Surrey Hills 50 (latter not GdS) will live on under the care of two new organisers.  Should appear in the listings when we tick over into the new season.  Jon Walters and Werner Wiethege are the men with the Right Stuff.

These are good rides, which I am glad to have created, and on which one can build AAA RRTY and the like.  Down to Downs in particular is a good winter route (with the usual caveats).  And the Surrey Hills is a nice way to dip your toe in the water of hilly rides.  The Sussexy Beast allows you to step up to longer distances (it is, as the title suggests, a bit of a beasting in the Sussex area).

If anyone has a card for any of the above events, not yet ridden but with an intention to do so "at some point", then please let me know so I can describe how to take this forward.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 10, 2013, 09:55:55 am
The calendar version of Billy's Meridian Hills is now open for business.

A cracking ride to fill the void left by Around Weald Expedition, no less climbing but a lot more benign, Ditchling Beacon and Ide Hill probably the hardest hills, Toys is done in reverse. Hot Dogs at 107km and 'spoons at the finish, what's not to like?  :P

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/14-381/#more
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 22, 2013, 12:17:55 am
who's up for The Whitchurch Winter Wind -down next weekend? an excellent route with some fab Downland views and well surfaced roads (quiet too; one reason I started my Audaxing in those parts)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Plodder on November 22, 2013, 11:26:07 am
A reasonable number. So far you have over 70 riding companions.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on November 30, 2013, 09:34:17 am
Just a quick reminder, I think these events are next on the GDS series  :)

Thanks for your entries so far, keep em coming  ;D

Hills and Mills- http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/14-77/

Mad Jacks JSM http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/14-85/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 01, 2013, 03:03:58 pm
I might be helping because it's easier than riding. There might, or might not, be brandy available at a checkpoint.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: fixillated on December 01, 2013, 03:06:30 pm
I might be helping because it's easier than riding.

Even if you have to lift a lot of bikes over a fence?  ;D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 01, 2013, 08:59:41 pm
The madness continues  ::-)

The Festive Five GdS; 5 different GdS perms ridden this month; including one of each of the below

Reliable
AAA Milne
Down to Downs
Sussexy Beast
Around Weald Expedition or Meridian Hills 200

one DIY may be substituted but you must ride at least one 200

there will be an award.... (goes to £1 shop)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 02, 2013, 09:16:39 pm
I might be helping because it's easier than riding.

Even if you have to lift a lot of bikes over a fence?  ;D

Good for core strength, wot's that!!!  ???

Anyone see Time teams 1066 dig. Harold met his maker on Mad Jacks route at the now mini rab (check route sheet 99.38km in Battle)
beat that..  :thumbsup:   http://www.channel4.com/programmes/time-team-digs/4od#3231967
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 02, 2013, 09:23:08 pm
just about to post my entries for HM / MJJSM;

no idea how I'm getting there...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 02, 2013, 09:58:21 pm
just about to post my entries for HM / MJJSM;

no idea how I'm getting there...

Thanks & ride over or Iron horse delivers you to & fro Polegate  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 02, 2013, 10:01:29 pm
just about to post my entries for HM / MJJSM;

no idea how I'm getting there...

Thanks & ride over or Iron horse delivers you to & fro Polegate  :thumbsup:

don't think I can get the Bluebell to relay the line to Lewes in time  ;)

looks like another 2 ECE's  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 02, 2013, 10:19:32 pm
just about to post my entries for HM / MJJSM;

no idea how I'm getting there...

Thanks & ride over or Iron horse delivers you to & fro Polegate  :thumbsup:

don't think I can get the Bluebell to relay the line to Lewes in time  ;)

looks like another 2 ECE's  :)

If Beeching hadn't killed the Cuckoo line (1960?) you would have been delivered within 500yrds of the start.
Oh for those that are interested, Hills and Mills runs under the Redgate Mill Junction where it connected to the Uckfield line  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo_aifl0gQo 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 02, 2013, 10:30:04 pm

If Beeching hadn't killed the Cuckoo line (1960?) you would have been delivered within 500yrds of the start.

(non trainspotters switch off now)

only by changing at Hurst Green and Eridge  ;)

and all in time for an 0900 start? been looking at old timetables; the bus that now runs (very round the houses) along what is now partly the Bluebell to Haywards Heath only takes about 10 mins longer than the train did;

no use for bikes though...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 03, 2013, 05:00:37 pm
Hills and Mills runs under the Redgate Mill Junction where it connected to the Uckfield line
And some years, Mad Jack's crosses a railway line... As in walking over the tracks and lifting your bike up the embankment. Bridges are for wimps IMHO

Will there be FREE BRANDY for riders AGAIN on any of your rides this year, Sir? (Just askin')
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 03, 2013, 09:29:54 pm

If Beeching hadn't killed the Cuckoo line (1960?) you would have been delivered within 500yrds of the start.

(non trainspotters switch off now)

only by changing at Hurst Green and Eridge  ;)

and all in time for an 0900 start? been looking at old timetables; the bus that now runs (very round the houses) along what is now partly the Bluebell to Haywards Heath only takes about 10 mins longer than the train did;

no use for bikes though...

Still Trainspotting...

A local rider used to out run the up train (cuckoo line) and beat it to the level crossing on Earsham rd. Much to the annoyance of the driver who knew him and used to bash the engine with his shovel shouting come on Ted you W*&^%R!!!   ;D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 03, 2013, 09:38:48 pm
Hills and Mills runs under the Redgate Mill Junction where it connected to the Uckfield line
And some years, Mad Jack's crosses a railway line... As in walking over the tracks and lifting your bike up the embankment. Bridges are for wimps IMHO

Will there be FREE BRANDY for riders AGAIN on any of your rides this year, Sir? (Just askin')

Bldy Bridge was out much like the Hard Boiled 2000 years ago but at 3am!!
Brandy, that got em, one said naa that's tea, ha, after swigging a load of the 20yr old vintage beverage it nearly blew his head off. I then noticed the CCTV and sign saying no DRINKING or BIKES aloud in the car park, whoops!  :o
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 06, 2013, 06:47:03 pm
much like the Hard Boiled 2000 years ago
Blimey, you have audaxing a long time
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Paul Palmer on December 07, 2013, 05:28:19 pm
much like the Hard Boiled 2000 years ago
Blimey, you have audaxing a long time

I remember that ride 2000 years ago, we had a hell of a job hauling our ass's out of that river bed, but are you sure it was the Hard Boiled ??
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 07, 2013, 07:55:37 pm
much like the Hard Boiled 2000 years ago
Blimey, you have audaxing a long time

I remember that ride 2000 years ago, we had a hell of a job hauling our ass's out of that river bed, but are you sure it was the Hard Boiled ??

Ahh, now come to think of it, it may have been porkers, was it a dried up canal? Whitebelly was there too..  ;D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Paul Palmer on December 07, 2013, 08:20:15 pm
much like the Hard Boiled 2000 years ago
Blimey, you have audaxing a long time

I remember that ride 2000 years ago, we had a hell of a job hauling our ass's out of that river bed, but are you sure it was the Hard Boiled ??

Ahh, now come to think of it, it may have been porkers, was it a dried up canal? Whitebelly was there too..  ;D

It was a dried up canal, as for the ride or year I'm not sure about, my last Porkers was 1999. Some riders chose to take the diversion which I seem to remember added a lot of miles. Us rugged types followed the route sheet without deviating.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 30, 2013, 12:40:09 pm
Just a quick reminder, I think these events are next on the GDS series  :)

Thanks for your entries so far, keep em coming  ;D

Hills and Mills- http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/14-77/

Mad Jacks JSM http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/14-85/

Don't forget  AAA'ers these events ^^^ are ON SALE NOW  ;D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 01, 2014, 01:58:47 pm
and so the 2013 GdS season comes to a close; this humble award which was originally intended as a bit of a marketing ploy for end of season events has gone from strength to strength,

notable milestones this year are,

Billy and Ann storming the overall and oppo sex trophies and records using mostly SE based rides

The wide range of perms from 50-200 which are now a regular feature for AAA junkies in the region

Several new events; just showing that despite our relative low altitude we Southerners just love a challenge

see you all for Hills and Mills or one of the other early season events  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 13, 2014, 02:03:29 pm
Following a test ride yesterday I've updated the AAA Milne route to remove all retracing (apart from the railway tunnel bit), the route now carries on from Barcombe through some peaceful lanes with views of the Downs to Newick then onwards to Horsted Keynes, and offers an alternative food stop in Newick if the Barcombe one is shut. You climb the same ridges  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 08, 2014, 08:53:22 am
Some photos from recent events added here;

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on February 08, 2014, 09:47:02 am
Some photos from recent events added here;

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

Great photos, about time that Org bloke got out of Sussex again. I hear RT is out of hibernation too  ;D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 01, 2014, 08:12:23 am
Who's up for Lasham Loop next Saturday?

A lovely ride, not noticeably hilly and a pleasant change from MJJSM;

ECE home for me as usual  ::-)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Corlis Benefideo on March 02, 2014, 08:23:46 am
Was hoping to do that one but public transport options to the start from London look difficult...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: jsabine on March 02, 2014, 12:42:39 pm
Yes, trains look a bit broken, don't they.

I'm half contemplating train to Guildford (50km from the start) or Alton (30km) - or I could just man up and ride the whole way (110km). Or I could stay in bed on Saturday morning.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 16, 2014, 07:52:32 pm
just back from the Kent Invicta 100k Grimpeur; absolutely stonking day with a huge YACF presence including some Flatlanders :thumbsup:

roads were mostly perfect although a few mega potholes and very skoggy bits; I retained my cred (just) in not using the triple on the easier second half

the event was sadly mired for a couple of riders by the actions of one motorist (can't say too much as this is public but it all looked very ugly having arrived at the aftermath while attendance by the Ler was awaited)

thanks Patrick FWN and all the other helpers  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on April 24, 2014, 08:35:36 pm
New Grimpeur du Sud perm........

'The Coastguard' 100km from Challock near Ashford, Kent, almost the same route as last Julys Forts & Ferries 100km calendar event. 

Route as follows  Challock-Bridge (an alternative start)-Alkham-St Margarets Bay-Eythorne-Woolage Village-Bridge-Crundale-Wye-Challock.

See AUK website for more details http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/PC09/  (full details, GPX file, paypal entry to be updated shortly)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 24, 2014, 11:22:27 pm
a reminder that the IOW 100km Randonnee next Sunday the 4th is a GdS qualifier; and if you do it as a DIY by gpx you will also get 1.5AAA  :thumbsup:

pre-registration is full this year but you can enter on the day (I think pre-registering saves about 5 seconds!)

www.cycleisland.co.uk

always enjoys a big AUK presence; I'll be starting from Wooton (and maybe pushing the boat out and camping there too)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Corlis Benefideo on May 19, 2014, 02:26:02 pm
Is it just me or has the GdS website gone a bit awol?

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 19, 2014, 05:58:31 pm
Is it just me or has the GdS website gone a bit awol?

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

no it's not just you  :( I thought my pc was playing up (WinXP not compatible with anything these days)

I'll get onto my IT Lead....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on June 09, 2014, 05:17:02 pm

Rode my 2009 event 'Ide Hill Grimpeur' as a DIY GPS yesterday starting from the most northerly point (Shire Lane) near/in Green St Green which yielded 2 AAAs over 108km. Route was Green St Green-Downe-Ide Hill-Blackham-Hartfield-Fairwarp-Burnt Oak-Dewlands Hill-Crowboro'-Withyham-Hever-Toys Hill-Cudham-Green St Green.   

If you fancy a go the brevet number is 4186 and the link to the google map reference is (not the route just the shortest distance)

http://goo.gl/maps/kzB9c

I can give you a link to Garmin Connect and also provide the route sheet if required. 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 15, 2014, 09:05:06 am

Rode my 2009 event 'Ide Hill Grimpeur' as a DIY GPS yesterday

didn't the original do Hogtrough Hill? I rediscovered that climb's dubious pleasures yesterday without a triple :'(
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on June 15, 2014, 01:45:39 pm
Yeah, Hogtrough Hill becomes the last (major climb) if you start from Green St Green. Toys Hill swiftly followed by Hogtrough is quite a finale on a hot day.   

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 25, 2014, 12:43:17 am
bit of a quiet period for the GdS calendar events; next up Tour of the Hills which I'll miss  :( then The Crown in September and 3 in October; but you all have until 31.12.14 to get the 5.

and still about 20 coveted gold badges left WTGTG  ;)

anyone fancy organising a 200 next year?  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 08, 2014, 11:59:14 am
Who's up for The Crown this Sunday? am ECE'ing over to the start
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: martind on September 09, 2014, 08:20:21 am
I have entered this, see you there on Sunday  :thumbsup:

Martin
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Frank9755 on September 13, 2014, 04:01:42 pm
I've just entered the Crown for tomorrow.  Is there a GPS track anywhere, by any chance?

EDIT; just found this.  Think it is right.  Will have a look over it.
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/5948190 (http://ridewithgps.com/routes/5948190)

It doesn't seem to say where this actually starts from, but there is a Scout Hut on streetview close to where the map says it starts from, so I assume it's there.  Anyone know for definite...?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: martind on September 13, 2014, 06:29:02 pm
Yes it is at the Scout Hut, postcode TN24 9BH.

If you want to pm me your email address I will forward the info sheet to you.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Frank9755 on September 13, 2014, 07:04:15 pm
Thanks; PM sent
Frank
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 13, 2014, 09:59:52 pm
I've uploaded the track for this year's Mid Sussex Hillier (the 2012 route, best version of all IMO), will be route checking on Sat subject to being allowed up Ditchling Beacon along with the Tour of Britain

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/14-228/#more

and what a fantastic day for it  8) caugh the ToB twice Ditchling Beacon was full on and amazing  :thumbsup:

route sheet now on online; will update the Hilly in a couple of weeks
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 15, 2014, 10:24:20 am
Rode a well attended Crown yesterday; big field most of whom passed us in Dover on the way back from St Margaret's Bay :-[ I did have a genuine excuse though having done a 2AAA ride the day before and a 1.25AAA ECE starting at 0500 (my first crack at doing the whole 100 before the event and challenging but quiet and serene  8))

It was my first riding of this event since PaulOlmo took it over and no less impressive than PatC's editions, made more pleasant by not having White Hill right at the end (apart from me who needed the extra few metres)

next up AAAnfractuous  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Arry-R on September 15, 2014, 10:51:09 am
what an excellent day wasn't it for sure.  let us hope all who rode will come to Chailey next month.  how many hundred could you take?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on September 21, 2014, 10:32:02 am
Unashamed bump for the excellent Hilly and the Hillier, and with closing date for entries of October 15 -only a few days before the ride itself - there is still time (assuming the limit not reached). I will be out of the country but would otherwise have ridden, or helped.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Corlis Benefideo on October 20, 2014, 09:52:48 pm
Hello fellow grimpers

I'm looking for a couple of rides to see me through November and December. Unfortunately I can't make the Whitchurch Wind down as I'm working so it'll have to be perms.

Having done most of the short perms this year, I was considering a DIY by GPS in one of the areas that hasn't really been covered by the events I've done so far, which is south east of Tunbridge Wells and around Bewl water. I have concocted a torturous route with far too many controls which I may try, but I was wondering if any more experienced hands are aware of any routes such as this that have been used before, and perhaps now have been retired?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 20, 2014, 10:45:04 pm
Hello fellow grimpers

I'm looking for a couple of rides to see me through November and December. Unfortunately I can't make the Whitchurch Wind down as I'm working so it'll have to be perms.

Having done most of the short perms this year, I was considering a DIY by GPS in one of the areas that hasn't really been covered by the events I've done so far, which is south east of Tunbridge Wells and around Bewl water. I have concocted a torturous route with far too many controls which I may try, but I was wondering if any more experienced hands are aware of any routes such as this that have been used before, and perhaps now have been retired?

well there's the very much not retired and excellent Down to Downs you can do as a non-DIY :) but pm me and I can send you something if you want a DIY
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: fixillated on December 14, 2014, 12:31:44 pm
well there's the very much not retired and excellent Down to Downs you can do as a non-DIY :)

With the added incentive that I'll donate £2 for every ride I validate till the end of 2015 to Steve's record attempt oneyeartimetrial.org.uk (http://oneyeartimetrial.org.uk)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on December 14, 2014, 01:15:48 pm
+1 for the Down to Downs, especially if you ride from Green Street Green. He, he!

The excellent Reliable is up there too.

You could try my little DIY The Gimp in Kent, 100km 2AAA DIY by GPS, which conveniently starts and finishes at a pub with excellent beer and a roaring log fire.

Contact me for the homework or see;

http://ridewithgps.com/trips/3834190

Sorry forgot to add, there's a little bit of off road in it to spice it up a bit  ;)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: haffers on December 14, 2014, 08:01:54 pm
AAA Milne ridden today and very enjoyable it was too with the weather not affecting it too much!

5th GdS ride since October so I had better get the ride validated :-)

These rides are AAAddictive
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 14, 2014, 10:09:23 pm
Next in the GdS series (calendar events) are these -

Hills and Mills http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/15-77/

Mad Jack's JSM http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/15-85/

Come on down, (TG, if you're down in this neck of the woods, free entry to both Sir)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Lars on December 15, 2014, 09:48:01 am
Nice, first GdS set completed!

Meridian Hills 200k (cal), 3.50 AAA
The AAAnfractuous 200k (cal), 3.00 AAA
Down to Downs 100k (perm), 1.75 AAA
AAA Milne 100k (perm), 1.75 AAA
The Reliable 100k (perm), 1.75 AAA

Been fun, all good enjoyable routes and rides. All had moments of weather though.  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: haffers on December 20, 2014, 10:23:21 pm
Are there any GdS rides of 300km or 400km?

Or would it be OK to have a start of Edenbridge and ride an existing 200km perm (Around Weald) and on arrival back at Edenbridge ride a 100km perm (Down to Downs) which has the same start place?

cheers
Jim
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 20, 2014, 10:38:10 pm
No doubt martin will be along soon with chapter and verse, but as a first quick reaction I'd guess you could certainly do it if you were capable but I am unsure if you would get 3 audax points for it: you'd get 2 points for the 200 but no points for the 100, I think. You would of course get the AAA points.
IMHO all these rides are great, and I have particularly fond memories of the AAA Milne. I wear my GdS badge on my Carradice with pride.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: haffers on December 20, 2014, 11:01:52 pm
Makes sense  :) Got some other rides over that way planned so may just plot my own DIY once I get more familiar with the area.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on December 21, 2014, 03:52:18 am
I looked into doubling up the AAA Milne and The Reliable, as I could easily ride them both from Crowborough as a 200.

It seemed to be a bit tricky getting everything in place to get both the GdS credit and the 2 AUK points, so I gave up with AUK and rode them as 100's.

Basically it seems to be that you enter both rides with the permanent organiser and pay your fee to get the GdS, then combine them and enter again with AUK as a DIY by something or other and pay your fee. Whether the AUK system will throw one or not remains to be seen.

There are some 3 & 400's but they exist as DIY's and you could speak to Billy, Martin or Pat to get the tracks.

I believe that something more permanent is in the pipe, however.



Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 22, 2014, 12:40:47 pm
currently there are no GdS over 200 although Billy has ridden a 3 4 and 600 DIY;

if you double up or extend an existing GdS to make a longer distance it's no problem using any of my routes gratis but please ask the other organisers,

no matter what distance however if it's one ride it only counts once for the GdS

Rode an excellent GdS DIY yesterday out West which would be great to make into a perm watch this space...

if anyone wants a real challenge try entering the Rapha Festive 500 (between Dec 24th and 31st)  using just GdS (including at least one 200) did it last year but won't have enough free time this season  :(
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on December 22, 2014, 01:03:58 pm

Audax Club Hackney (with routing input from HillBilly) are working on a 300km from London, "Greenwich Mean Climb" (4.5AAA points):

A hilly ride out of South London and through the quiet lanes of the Downs and Weald to the south coast. Featuring not one but two trips to the seaside and around 4500m of climbing. Includes refreshments at the start, a second breakfast at the first operated control and full meal at the finish with a traditional Audax Club Hackney welcome at the home of one of the organisers.

I assume this will eligible for GdS? Currently looking to schedule this into the calendar next September, as that's the best gap I've been able to find so far.

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 22, 2014, 03:32:02 pm
yes definitely GdS eligible  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: haffers on December 22, 2014, 08:50:20 pm
Ivan, that AC Hackney ride sounds ideal, will keep an eye out for it even if I cobble together my own 300 in the meantime :-)

Martin, fine about it counting as only one GdS ride as I only need one a month to carry on the GdSRTY. I will see if Billy OK with using one of his as well and will also seek some advice on routing for a 300 km ride. Quite hooked on these now!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 22, 2014, 10:07:45 pm
Quite hooked on these now!
Agreed. When I was riding them I found them more amenable than the 200s needed for a RRTY. Good routes in good scenery. The AAA Milne was especially good.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 23, 2014, 10:27:04 am
You've not tried the new AAA Milne, as different as I could make it to Down to Downs although no apologies for leaving in Friars Gate the most iconic climb up Ashdown Forest, coupled with the sublime road up to Wych Cross  8)

running as a calendar event on Sat July 4th with hot dogs natch  :P
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 23, 2014, 11:41:52 am
You've not tried the new AAA Milne

running as a calendar event on Sat July 4th with hot dogs natch  :P
Not yet. And on my return in March from forrin parts I will be on the bike quite a bit and GdS is in my sights.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on December 23, 2014, 12:49:16 pm
Does that new and improved AAA Milne avoid the motor city hell hole of East Grinstead ?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on December 23, 2014, 01:38:37 pm
http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/MM02/

It would appear not to avoid the delights of East Grinstead.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on December 23, 2014, 05:20:56 pm
Mad Jacks JSM route sheet has been revised, nothing new to worry about, just a few uneven/ muddy sections noted.
Evidence of new resurfacing too (Farthings La). Some still out in shorts and as John used to say "he is riding for arthritis research"!!!!!!  ::-)

Hills and Mills / Mad Jacks JSM route sheets are ready to fire off to those that have entered via the postal option.
Entries starting to flow in thank you, lots of new names too, so to my loyal AAA crew, don't be caught off guard if you intend to ride (limits on both rides)  ;)

I thank you..
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 24, 2014, 12:00:20 am
Does that new and improved AAA Milne avoid the motor city hell hole of East Grinstead ?

if you do it by gps you can avoid the town centre and just do the short section of A22 after Herontye Drive  :) if you are after a receipt and very lucky you might find the shop in Dunnings Rd open;

or even buy a pint of Harveys at the Dunnings Mill and quadruple the cost of the ride  :o
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Lurcio on January 16, 2015, 04:50:08 pm
Hell of the coastal hills 1.75 AAA points. Routesheet and gps are now ready to print off.
http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/15-184/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on January 16, 2015, 06:28:58 pm
I believe I can enter this one as it's straight after Yr Elenydd. It'll be my first El Supremo event and I may have a hunger on............

There you go, button pushed and I'm looking forward to a hilly weekend.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 16, 2015, 06:42:29 pm
I believe I can enter this one as it's straight after Yr Elenydd. It'll be my first El Supremo event and I may have a hunger on............

There you go, button pushed and I'm looking forward to a hilly weekend.


Have another look at the organiser for this  ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on January 16, 2015, 06:51:17 pm
But,but,but....It says El Supremo catering clearly on the packet. Is this a job for the ASA ?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 16, 2015, 07:02:56 pm
The packet says-"A challenging ride with several classic climbs in an area of outstanding natural beauty. Experience the legendary catering of Dave 'El Supremo' Hudson to replace those expended calories".

Orgs the new boy on this block, well sort of (doffs cap) welcome Sir  ;D :thumbsup:

ASA never heard of em  :P
Are you keeping chicane company on H&M :-* One must apologise to chicane for this comment, no offence meant  :-X :-*
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 16, 2015, 08:15:33 pm
Hell of the coastal hills 1.75 AAA points. Routesheet and gps are now ready to print off.
http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/15-184/

1893m is 2AAA in my book; not that I'm playing this year*, Aunt Maud you have competition  :demon:

* other than another AAA century to bag
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on January 16, 2015, 08:34:48 pm
@ Mad Jack

I've got three women and a smelly Labrador that require my services across the other side of the North Sea, so I fly out on Monday and H&M 'll have to wait till next time, but the JSM and Primrose Path look likely.

@ Martin
I stop at 100 ish, that's enough for me I think. Although I do want one of they cloth GdS badges and a GdS SR.

Anyways that other bloke has got a 2.75AAA 50km DIY, how am I supposed to compete with that in Jutland.....I mean really! ::-) :P

But first there's an icy looking Willy Warmer to navigate and if Sundays fine I'll head for the Sussex Bergs again.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 18, 2015, 11:08:23 am
Quote from: Aunt Maud l topic=1254.msg1796934#msg1796934 date=1421440488
@ Mad Jack

I've got three women and a smelly Labrador that require my services across the other side of the North Sea, so I fly out on Monday and H&M 'll have to wait till next time, but the JSM and Primrose Path look likely.



Your going to be busy   ;)   Yes do come on down for JSM.  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 18, 2015, 11:09:48 am
2015 GDS events - https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on January 18, 2015, 11:16:44 am

Your going to be busy   ;)   Yes do come on down for JSM.  :thumbsup:

Shall do.

I'll be the one on the Cannondale Coke Can, sporting a face like a smacked arse.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on January 18, 2015, 12:20:06 pm
2015 GDS events - https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/  :thumbsup:

In addition this event, http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/15-84/ , would appear to be a qualifier but is not listed on the GdS website.

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 18, 2015, 05:09:19 pm
2015 GDS events - https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/  :thumbsup:

In addition this event, http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/15-84/ , would appear to be a qualifier but is not listed on the GdS website.

is now  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Chicane on January 19, 2015, 09:13:25 am
Quote
Are you keeping chicane company on H&M 
Oi, dya mind!! :o! I have my entourage coming on Saturday thank you   :)  :-*
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 19, 2015, 12:36:01 pm

I'll be the one on the Cannondale Coke Can, sporting a face like a smacked arse.

Just fell of my chair, I'll be handing out your brevet from a distance then :o ;D 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 19, 2015, 12:42:27 pm
Oi, dya mind!! :o! I have my entourage coming on Saturday thank you   :)  :-*

Well done :thumbsup:, no offence ment melady ;) :-* Parker has been put back in the 1960's box and will have to keep quiet!  :-X :-*
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Chicane on January 19, 2015, 05:03:11 pm
Quote
no offence ment melady
How very dare you!  ;)
Tried to get some of the mtbers along - some just don't do those distances due to time/family/pets etc... 99.9 % sure one of them will be at home in the warm with his feet up drinking tea doing something very important so it may be just me and JD!  :)  :-*
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on January 19, 2015, 05:57:11 pm

the SDNP100 is one of the hardest GdS,

What's this SDNP100 then ?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 19, 2015, 06:27:37 pm
Quote
no offence ment melady
How very dare you!  ;)
Tried to get some of the mtbers along - some just don't do those distances due to time/family/pets etc... 99.9 % sure one of them will be at home in the warm with his feet up drinking tea doing something very important so it may be just me and JD!  :)  :-*

Thank you m'lady- http://youtu.be/pxOgk1jEKsg ;D :-* Parker get back in that box NOW!!!! :-X :-*
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 19, 2015, 06:30:19 pm

the SDNP100 is one of the hardest GdS,

What's this SDNP100 then ?

Where, when, who, we know why  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 19, 2015, 09:15:54 pm

the SDNP100 is one of the hardest GdS,

What's this SDNP100 then ?

in the South Downs National Park

note to organisers;

if you want your event to be publicised on the GdS web page please advertise it as being eligible on yours  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 19, 2015, 11:20:13 pm

the SDNP100 is one of the hardest GdS,

What's this SDNP100 then ?

in the South Downs National Park


note to organisers;

if you want your event to be publicised on the GdS web page please advertise it as being eligible on yours  :)

MJJSM adjusted accordingly did say GDS  ;D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 30, 2015, 12:59:48 pm
just putting some flyers together for hopefully handing to MJJSM riders

so far we have

Kent Invicta Grimpeur 8th Mar Otford
Lasham Loop 14th Mar Catherington
Hell of the Sussex Coastal Hills 12th Apr Polegate
Isle of Wight Randonnee 3rd May
The Blackhouse Hill Revival 24th May Canterbury
AAA Milne 4th Jul Barcombe near Lewes
Tour of the Hills provisional Aug Shere Surrey
Mid Sussex Hilly and Hillier 17th Oct Chailey
Whitchurch Winter Wind-down ?? Nov
Catherington Hants

no 200s so far (paging Manotea)

plus of course the perms

 AAA Milne, Around Weald Expedition, Meridian Hills Down to Downs, Sussexy Beast, The Coastguard and The Reliable
(nb Surrey Hills or Forts and Ferries 50 twice in a day also counts)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on January 30, 2015, 01:08:46 pm
How about The Sea Lovers perm....... is that in or out ?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on January 30, 2015, 01:09:33 pm
(Makes note that the 100km events can be upgraded to 200s by the magic of ECE).

I am still toying with the idea of running a 200.  All depends on whether I can muster up the enthusiasm to run a second event, given I've got a (non-AAA) 300 pending approval and the hilly 200s run in recent summers have had a weak turnout.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 30, 2015, 01:15:57 pm
How about The Sea Lovers perm....... is that in or out ?

Oi why aren't you out on Ashdown Forest?  ;)

the jury is out on that one, it does almost no climbing in the South East, but it does start from there which was the idea of the series so I suppose it's allowed (as is LEL!)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on January 30, 2015, 01:20:57 pm
Oi why aren't you out on Ashdown Forest?  ;)

'Coz I'm freezing my ©ø©k off in The North instead.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 30, 2015, 01:27:05 pm
Oi why aren't you out on Ashdown Forest?  ;)

'Coz I'm freezing my ©ø©k off in The North instead.

ok, must have misread your AAA Milne entry  :-[

(Makes note that the 100km events can be upgraded to 200s by the magic of ECE).

indeed; might have to ECE MJJSM for my RRTY if next weekend gets snowed off....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on January 30, 2015, 01:38:50 pm
I'll ride it next week, possibly Thursday.

Can't leave the date blank on the inter web form unfortunately.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 30, 2015, 01:50:37 pm
good point  :)

Down to Downs for me tomorrow (the original GdS perm) hopefully Meridian next weekend will make my GdS x9
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on January 30, 2015, 02:51:06 pm
Enjoy.

Down to Downs is one of my favourites. I've got a card for the Meridian Hills too, but I'm waiting till I get some sunny weather so I can see the views.

I think Billy and I are doing something flattish on Sunday next, not sure what though.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on January 30, 2015, 02:51:42 pm
How about The Sea Lovers perm....... is that in or out ?

I know Martin has said "s'pose so".  And it's his award scheme.

But as a personal opinion.

It shouldn't (ditto LEL).

But then again, I am a purist about such things  :-*
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on January 30, 2015, 02:52:19 pm
I think Billy and I are doing something flattish on Sunday next, not sure what though.

Weather permitting...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 30, 2015, 04:00:54 pm
How about The Sea Lovers perm....... is that in or out ?

I know Martin has said "s'pose so".  And it's his award scheme.

But as a personal opinion.

It shouldn't (ditto LEL).

But then again, I am a purist about such things  :-*

I think it shouldn't either because it's an award based on espousing and encouraging hilly events in the SE. But it does comply to the rules which have remained unchanged (apart from extending the area into Hants and the IoW from 2008 when we lost a few of the original rides, notably Battle and Back, Sussex Corker and Hilly Chilterns) so it's allowed
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on January 30, 2015, 04:07:47 pm
Okey dokey, then I shall give it a go as part of my GdS SR.

If you change your mind, let me know as I'm easy either way.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on January 30, 2015, 07:03:33 pm
(Makes note that the 100km events can be upgraded to 200s by the magic of ECE).

indeed; might have to ECE MJJSM for my RRTY if next weekend gets snowed off....

I only remembered because I printed off a list of local 100s, as I am tempted to try my first ECE just to see what all the fuss is about.  There's a certain event on 4 July that looks doable from chez HB   :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on February 28, 2015, 04:28:48 pm
Surrey Hills fans.

The A29 is closed at the moment North of ockley, but cyclists can sneak around the fence to get through to Anstie Lane.  It also means the road is quiet (usually I wouldn't ride to the Anstie, preferring Broomehall lane).

logmore lane, off coldharbour lane to Westcott, is closed and dug up for waterworks.  Bikes can't sneak around the fence at the moment.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 07, 2015, 09:13:14 am
Who's up for the Invicta Grimpeur? there's a road closed near Underrriver I haven't looked at the revised route yet but not going up One Tree aka Carters Hill would be nice  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 16, 2015, 08:29:37 pm
Lasham Loop lived up to its reputation, some arduous and concentrated little kicks up to the half time stop (the airfield is far better than the garden centre IMO) with excellent free food at the start and finish  :P

My bold attempt to wring extra AAA from the ECE to 200 via Harvesting Lane didn't work but I was glad of the flattish return north of Chichester (which all went pear shaped around Warninglid)

A great ride also very well supported, make a note for next year (and also Plodder's Whitchurch event in November)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: haffers on March 16, 2015, 09:04:20 pm
Have to find that Airfield one Martin as the Garden Centre was awful to be honest.

Time now to up the ante (not the Auntie!!) with the GdS rides and leave behind relative comfort of 100k rides for the 200km rides courtesy of Billy Weir so next up over April/May come the Meridian Hills then Around Weald Expedition  :)



Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on March 17, 2015, 07:00:27 am
Mind you don't up the Auntie.....he might get shirty.

I may have a tool around a GdS on Wednesday afternoon or Thursday. I've been saving The Meridian Hills for a sunny day and ice cream in Brighton 8), so it doesn't look like it'll be this time.

The Reliable might do nicely, or my 100km 2AAA DIY tour of the best fly tipping sites Kent has to offer.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on March 17, 2015, 08:22:48 am
Quick margin note.

The Sussexy Beast was put together to offer a stepping stone between the Down to Downs/Around Weald Expedition or the old AAA Milne/Meridian Hills.  It can be a useful card to hold if you are time constrained and want a lumpy ride.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 17, 2015, 08:48:37 am
I personally don't find Sussexy Beast that much easier than Meridian (but much easier than Around Weald) although I did resort to it as my last local AAA ride of last season after 3 consecutive solo Meridians gave me a severe sense of humour failure;

next up Lurcio's testing but scenic HOTSCH; then the IOW Randonnee (GdS eligible; also available as a DIY Audax pm me for the brevet number)

Have to find that Airfield one Martin as the Garden Centre was awful to be honest.

just continue after the garden centre ignore the next L turn on the route and it's about 1.2km on the L (from where either retrace or continue to the A339 than first L back  to Lasham village not much in it); there were a couple of dozen bikes there when we arrived
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on March 17, 2015, 08:54:46 am
The Sussexy Beast is a good'un, now I know where the phone box on Toy's Hill is.....it caught me out last time, as it was hidden behind a van and I rode straight past it and up the hill whilst thinking, hmmmmm I don't remember ever seeing a phone box at the top of this hill. DER!

Lurcio's HOTSCH comes at the end of a brutal AAA week in Wales, so It's going to be no ECE and a real challenge, hope the refreshments are up to scratch.  :P
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 21, 2015, 11:20:32 pm
Chapeau to Jane W for completing a GdS in 6 days; a ladies' record AFAIK  :thumbsup: especailly for a Flatlander

next up the IOW Randonnee then PatC's Blackhouse Hill Revival; always a good event with  excellent catering  :P  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 05, 2015, 11:40:19 am
the IoW went superbly; shame it was very foggy over the cliffs near Freshwater but the sun came out on the deceptively un-flat section from Yarmouth to Wooton,

top tip next year either avoid the £££££ fast ferry to Ryde like the plague (use the car ferry instead) or buy a through train ticket (even just to the end of the pier) and save 1/3, this may even work with GroupSave

anyone thinking of Surrey Secrets now is the time to go, bluebells on Leith Hill are sublime  8)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on May 05, 2015, 06:30:55 pm
I was thinking about that at the weekend, but didn't get a chance to head over to Leith Hill (Broomehall Lane is fantastic for Bluebells).

The area around Toys Hill and Ide Hill (cf the Meridian and Around Weald) are also pretty good at the moment.  Heady clumps of bluebells with primroses dotted around the verges.  It's a generally nice time to ride in the area, wind and wet permitting. 

Later in the year, when the poppies come out is a good time to do the Meridian also, as these are resplendent on Ditchling Beacon.  They create a shimmering patchwork of crimson that stretches to the horizon.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PatC on May 05, 2015, 08:04:19 pm


......then PatC's Blackhouse Hill Revival; always a good event with  excellent catering  :P  :thumbsup:

Yep, 240515, further info (route sheet, general info, gpx file, link to ridewithgps) on the AUK website........  http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/15-84/ 
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 05, 2015, 11:30:14 pm
I was thinking about that at the weekend, but didn't get a chance to head over to Leith Hill (Broomehall Lane is fantastic for Bluebells).

The area around Toys Hill and Ide Hill (cf the Meridian and Around Weald) are also pretty good at the moment.  Heady clumps of bluebells with primroses dotted around the verges.  It's a generally nice time to ride in the area, wind and wet permitting. 

Later in the year, when the poppies come out is a good time to do the Meridian also, as these are resplendent on Ditchling Beacon.  They create a shimmering patchwork of crimson that stretches to the horizon.

+1 to the poppies on top of The Beacon; always a treat. Also cowslips up by Polesden Lacey and Gorse blossom on top of Ashdown Forest

could've got a few more AAA if I'd taken my Garmin off for the walk up Leith Hill tower yesterday  8) seemed odd that from the top the concrete scar of Gatwick appeared closer than the church spire on Ranmore Common
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: αdαmsκι on May 28, 2015, 08:40:56 am
Yesterday I rode the Down to Downs perm, which was my first Grimpeur du Sud. Having a control at Green St. Green makes getting to the start from central-ish London very easy because there are loads of trains to Orpington, from where it's less than 3 km to route. It was my first ride of 2015 in the sun, so the shorts and summer jersey put in an appearance. There were lots of fantastic views, silly signs and hills. However, the climbing wasn't too bad especially as the route doesn't go up one of the really really steep roads from Brasted to Cudham. I particular liked the route into Uckfield. For anyone interested my Garmin tracklog is here: click (http://ridewithgps.com/trips/4777263).

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGAYFehWoAAXeyz.jpg)     (https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CGAiLFMXIAAtiSP.jpg)

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on May 28, 2015, 01:02:10 pm
I am now imagining 500yds of road pebble dashed with squished frogs.

Down to Downs is nearly a perfect 100.  The only bit I used to have reservations about is the retrace at Uckfield.  It was always tempting to divert to the West so that you go back up the Ashdown ridge via a different road (Martin uses a very nice stretch on his AAA Milne, which pops out at Coleman's Hatch).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Jonah on May 28, 2015, 05:38:59 pm
I think I now qualify for the GDS cloth badge - How do I claim the beast?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 28, 2015, 10:19:45 pm
I think I now qualify for the GDS cloth badge - How do I claim the beast?

send me your claim with a record of the qualifying rides; it must be 5 years of 5 rides or 10+10+5 or 10+5+5+5 & a badge will be in the post gratis  :)

ps only 15 left ever, when they're gone they're gone

However, the climbing wasn't too bad especially as the route doesn't go up one of the really really steep roads from Brasted to Cudham.

it has every time I've ridden it, I call it Barsted for that reason  :'(
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: αdαmsκι on May 28, 2015, 10:59:48 pm
it has every time I've ridden it, I call it Barsted for that reason  :'(

Yeah, but it ain't as bad as White Lane (http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=540834&Y=155517&A=Y&Z=120).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 29, 2015, 07:33:16 am
it has every time I've ridden it, I call it Barsted for that reason  :'(

Yeah, but it ain't as bad as White Lane (http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?X=540834&Y=155517&A=Y&Z=120).

you're not wrong there! haven't been near White Lane since Billy's calendar Around Weald in 2013;

a shame there are no calendar 200 GdS this year, I'm unlikely to organise another one
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: jsabine on May 29, 2015, 09:27:51 am
There is a 300 (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/15-91/) though.

(Still in negotiations as to whether or not I can ride it. It's 10 minutes from home, so rude not to; my parents have announced they're coming to stay that weekend, so rude to do so.)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on May 29, 2015, 11:23:19 am
I think I might show my ugly mug on that one. ☝︎
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 29, 2015, 05:41:29 pm
I think I might show my ugly mug on that one. ☝︎

I know a lot of yous will breeze it after a certain ride across the Channel but I don't think it's for me, 200 hilly k in the SE is quite enough for me, plus I'll have just come back from Bella Italia the night before (not cycling either)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on May 29, 2015, 06:04:01 pm
If people want to train up for this lumpy 300, then a possibility would be to ride either of my 200km permanents (Around Weald Expedition or the Meridian Hills) on the Saturday and then the following day tackle a 100km ride.

I've done a fair bit of the 300km route being put on by ACH, and if you can get to the end of the Meridian with enough in the tank to do 100km the next day then getting around the 300km is well within reach (if the time can be spared).

I'm planning on being elsewhere that weekend (club is organising a weekend long event) otherwise I would have done it.  It has some great cycling, well worthy of inclusion in the rides listed as GdS.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 30, 2015, 09:16:49 pm
did a final check of the route sheet for AAA Milne calendar event (July 4) today; lovely day to be out there, reserved a spot for hot dogs on Ashdown Forest  :P & met a gaggle of vintage bikes and almost as vintage riders outside the pub in Barcombe

managed to spot 3 steam trains too  ::-)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on May 31, 2015, 09:24:08 am
I've got a Meridian Hills perm card plus some others to use up, so I was thinking of "training up" a bit the day before and 'training down" a bit the day after, if the weather's fine.  8)

It'll be nice to get back into The GdS groove after PBP.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: danrough on June 01, 2015, 06:14:16 pm
I'm hoping to get a GdS qualifying 400 in before PBP, before I go planning a DIY by GPS starting in Herts, does anyone have one that they're either planning to ride over the coming weeks, on which they wouldn't mind company, or one that they wouldn't mind somebody else riding?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 01, 2015, 09:04:26 pm
my brother lives in St Albans & I've long wanted to do a 100k GdS "King of Herts" but generally stymied by the relative lack of concentrated hills required; there are little pockets around Wheathampstead Kimpton and Whitwell but the only serious hills are Dunstable Downs with only a couple of roads up & down

over 400k you'd have more luck if you went round (just outside) the M25 anticlockwise & then did the Surrey Hills and North Downs
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: danrough on June 02, 2015, 02:12:01 pm
Thanks Martin, good to know. I'm in Tring which is quite close to Dunstable. It's quite near the end Chiltern Ridgeway and so I've been thinking of playing with either this route which takes in the whole of the Chiltern Cycleway: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/7902776. Alternatively I have another 300 which I might extend out to the North Downs / Surrey Hills as you suggest: http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8180711.

I'll report back here for anyone interested.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 12, 2015, 11:27:04 pm
Just been putting some flyers together for Tour of the Hills; normally towards the end of the season (until 31.12.15 for the GdS) there's not a lot apart from perms but thanks to RideHard we have a full programme  :)

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

still trying to work out the translation but I'll be there for Plodder's Nov 14th event  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on August 13, 2015, 06:39:43 am
Looking forward to getting back on the GdS slopes next month.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on August 24, 2015, 08:29:25 am
.....for The Greenwich Mean Climb and The Crown + ECE.

See you there.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 24, 2015, 09:04:13 am
sadly can't make either but may bump into some of you whilst on Meridian Hills on the Saturday
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on August 25, 2015, 09:25:23 am
Where exactly is the start of Greenwich Mean Climb ? I need to work out a route from Bromley by bike at 5 in the chuffin' morning  :facepalm:.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Aunt Maud on August 25, 2015, 09:51:50 am
Cutty Sark Gardens, Greenwich.

http://audaxclubhackney.co.uk/events/greenwich-mean-climb/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on August 25, 2015, 10:09:18 am
Yes, GMC starts at Cutty Sark Gardens by the Gypsy Moth Pub. I'm doing a final route check this weekend and will send out the routesheet/GPX in about a week's time. Note that the return route is through Bromley, Grove Park, Lee & Blackheath so you could probably just use that to get to the start, though the Arrivée is at my house, so don't end up there, but carry on down Crooms Hill after the Tea Hut.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on August 25, 2015, 10:32:47 am
Thanks guys! hopefully I won't be too hungover from the night before too! Some judicious planning there by my good self.

Just seen a route on RWG and the return leg literally goes past my starting point too! Ooof! Brasted Hill should be laugh after 180 miles!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on August 25, 2015, 11:20:29 am
Just seen a route on RWG and the return leg literally goes past my starting point too! Ooof! Brasted Hill should be laugh after 180 miles!

Note that's not the official route, someone has just plotted something between the listed controls I believe, but it's pretty close. I made the mistake of trying to route check that section on 79" fixed and enjoyed the walk up, looking back at a gridlocked M25.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on August 25, 2015, 12:38:21 pm
Just seen a route on RWG and the return leg literally goes past my starting point too! Ooof! Brasted Hill should be laugh after 180 miles!

Note that's not the official route, someone has just plotted something between the listed controls I believe, but it's pretty close. I made the mistake of trying to route check that section on 79" fixed and enjoyed the walk up, looking back at a gridlocked M25.

Understood. i am waiting on the official one but it nice to see what I'll be tackling!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: jelhinks on September 08, 2015, 09:44:34 pm
Completed my first GDS with the down to downs perm end of August..
Toys Hill was not as bad as expected given all the tales I'd heard
Brasted is surely spelled wrong tho..
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 13, 2015, 11:18:56 pm
Completed my first GDS with the down to downs perm end of August..
Toys Hill was not as bad as expected given all the tales I'd heard
Brasted is surely spelled wrong tho..

well done Jel  :thumbsup: 88th GdS added to the roll of honour; wonder who will be number 100?

did a route check of the Mid Sussex Hilly & Hillier this weekend; it will be going online in the next couple of days
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: RideHard on September 18, 2015, 10:13:46 am
Steam Ride : The London Grimpeur (150) AAA2
http://aukweb.net/events/detail/15-617/

Final route check ride over the weekend  :)

Last few Brevets available, see you all early Sat for a 8:00 start  :thumbsup:

1km Roubaix section optional diversion LG150_div
https://sites.google.com/site/steamride/home/the-london-grimpeur
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 19, 2015, 11:28:39 pm
really enjoyed the London Grimpeur; bastard hard ride for the 2AAA but some lovely views; ECE'd up to 200 a no-brainer as the ECE leg was flat if extremely urban

shame to miss Kop Hill as every old banger & motorbike was charging up it this weekend so it was verboten to mere cyclists

Thanks RideHard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Huff n Puff on September 20, 2015, 10:34:41 am

shame to miss Kop Hill as every old banger & motorbike was charging up it this weekend so it was verboten to mere cyclists

So, did you go up Wardrobes Lane / Pink Hill or the dreaded Whiteleaf as an alternative to Kop Hill?

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: RideHard on September 20, 2015, 07:16:45 pm
Unexpected road closures  :facepalm:

Feel free to DIY by GPS, Kop Hill Challenge
https://sites.google.com/site/steamride/home/chiltern-hills-60-perm

new..
Sunday 1st November 2015
Steam Ride : The Chilterns Pub Crawl 200km 3AAA
http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/15-601/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 20, 2015, 11:17:14 pm

shame to miss Kop Hill as every old banger & motorbike was charging up it this weekend so it was verboten to mere cyclists

So, did you go up Wardrobes Lane / Pink Hill or the dreaded Whiteleaf as an alternative to Kop Hill?

well actually neither as there was no control at the top having already gone up to the Whip Inn; we went up some bastard hill towards Lacey Green soon after P R

trying as always to wring some extra AAA (even for the almost flat ECE section) I think 2AAA is fair; it might have been a couple of 100m either side

shame will miss the CPC (due to other steam trains) but look forward to more GdS from Ride Hard  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: cotteredcrank on September 21, 2015, 05:58:09 pm
Another thank you to RideHard and his London Grimpeur.

A lifetime ago I was a member of the Bath Road Club and our club runs often ventured into the Chilterns. It was nice (?) to revist old haunts.

The route was great. Fantastic views, no truely nasty climbs,  fast descents and wonderful weather. The sound track of Red Kites added to the occasion.

It was a shame that Kop Hill was only accessible to petrol heads. I'll sign up for the 200k Chilterns Pub Crawl on November 1st to see what I missed out on.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on September 28, 2015, 09:20:23 am
I don't particularly want to start a new thread for one question. Is the person that runs Hengist's Hills Audax accepting on the day entries?

EDIT: Signed up online already! see you guys there.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: monaxle on October 02, 2015, 07:42:02 pm
Hengist Hills 2015 in three sections. Saves any confusion doing it like this rather than one file given the loops cross over / repeat in places. Mapped 'em out today. Feel free to nab them from my routes on RWGPS. Any disclaimer needed herby given as to accuracy blah, blah, blah...

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/10647077 (http://ridewithgps.com/routes/10647077) 03 HH - third loop

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/10646859 (http://ridewithgps.com/routes/10646859) 02 HH - second loop

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/10646853 (http://ridewithgps.com/routes/10646853) 01 HH - first loop
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on October 03, 2015, 09:37:07 pm
You've put in the changes for stage 3? Thanks in any case :)

EDIT: Brilliant sunny ride round these great roads (apart from avoiding a sad muddy end with a badger :( ) The fruit crumble and custard REALLY hit the spot at the end! See you next year most certainly!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 14, 2015, 10:38:06 am
I'm just ordering another 100 GdS medals which makes 300 of the little lovelies  8) amazing to think nearly 9 years ago that PatC and I thought we'd only ever sell about 30 of the first 100  :o

when the last of my ~30 pieces have gone the price will be going up to £2.75 to cover the increased cost in the new order

about 15 of the never to be repeated free cloth badges left (for 5 years of the award, 10 rides in a year counts as 2 years)

don't all rush!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 20, 2015, 11:17:01 pm
Down to Downs is back as a calendar event (last run in 2011)  for 2016; but twisted  ;)

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/16-258/
Title: Christmas du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 24, 2015, 06:42:26 pm
Just added the 99th GdS (not bad considering we thought we'd sell about 30 badges ever!)

Who wants to be #100? gwan gwan gwan; you can do it as a Rapha Festive 500

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

ps anyone who knows HTF to get those rider columns lined up gets a free badge / pint
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Cold Snail on December 24, 2015, 08:27:03 pm
Ohh, I've done five this year, but am not on the list yet.

But my lovely wife and I will be completing her 5th (my 6th) on Boxing day, I'm more than happy to step aside (please put the frying pan down dear.....)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 24, 2015, 08:56:34 pm
well you are officially #100 but willing to accept Blatters ;-)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 25, 2015, 10:35:09 am
Sorry you are 101; Oliver Iles beat you to it
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Arry-R on December 25, 2015, 07:28:29 pm
Well done Oliver
 :thumbsup:

Brevet cards recently received.  Appy Christmas Martin and Anne
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 27, 2015, 09:46:57 am
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Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
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Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
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Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 27, 2015, 09:48:33 am
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what does it take to keep you out of my life?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 27, 2015, 10:01:20 am

Chapeau to Mrs Cold Snail who has now completed the first BSO GdS ;-)

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

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Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Cold Snail on December 27, 2015, 06:13:50 pm
She's well chuffed with that.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/coldsnail/oXjlysH3WpMLxsYJRfVJAZS4prdoXhbXd1A27R84984_1.jpg)

The funny thing is, she has other decent bikes here, but that sub £80 Apollo hack just works for her.
Plus the funny looks she got on the Mid Sussex Hilly (her first ever Audax) riding that made her even more determined to complete the five this year.

A few upgrades for the bike are in the pipeline, but until it breaks, I'm leaving it alone.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Cold Snail on December 30, 2015, 07:02:09 pm
We've just signed up for a couple more Perms to kick off the new year.

My main resolution for 2016 is to lose a load of weight from myself (making all of my bikes faster), so I'm going to make the GDS as hard as possible by riding this.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v45/coldsnail/DSC00407.jpg)

I'm taking a footpump for this one...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 31, 2015, 10:48:36 am
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what does it take to keep you out of my life?

Hate to pry martin, but is all okay here?

I prefer my private life to remain so
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: marcusjb on December 31, 2015, 11:08:12 am
I understand.  You can delete all of those (as you posted them?).  I will delete my post referencing them.

Hope all is well.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 03, 2016, 02:17:35 pm
Got my Platinum year (x10) off to a very wet start yesterday with a Down to Downs perm (reversed as per the D2DR calendar event on the 21st May; thinking I might use the much nicer Meridian route to Hartfield as there is no need to go to Edenbridge)

The main reason behind yesterday's silliness was to see the magnificent illuminated Star on the hill of the same name before it gets switched off in 2(3?) days

And chapeau to latest GdO Jeremy Hinks https://yacf.co.uk/forum/Smileys/classic/thumbsup.gif https://yacf.co.uk/forum/Smileys/classic/thumbsup.gif
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on January 04, 2016, 11:54:57 am
My new 200km event, The Shark (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/16-291/), is in the calendar & should be eligible for GdS. Finally contour-counted the route over the break, have revised the climbing figure up to 3200m with the AAA man's approval and so now comes with 3.25 points.

My new year's resolution is to actually claim this award and currently considering an SR, but there is a paucity of >300km events. Looking at doing the Sea Lovers 600 perm, and then ECEing something up to 400km. There's nothing else eligible is there, apart from DIYs?

Greenwich Mean Climb will be back in mid-September, but what is the GdS1000 award mentioned on the GdS website, and should I be considering this?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 04, 2016, 12:58:28 pm
I feel a Fatwah coming from Redhill re The Shark... expect I'll do it.

GdS 1000 is 1000km of GdS events inculding a 300 (same as a Randonneur 1000 IIRC)

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on January 04, 2016, 01:57:24 pm
I feel a Fatwah coming from Redhill re The Shark... expect I'll do it.

I'm partly organising it as a stepping stone to taking control of Greenwich Mean Climb, so depending on feedback (including any fatwas), may not become an annual fixture...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 04, 2016, 10:07:37 pm
The Shark is now added; and I've entered ;-)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on January 05, 2016, 01:11:33 pm
Good that there is a 200 grimpeur in the true South.  None of the half arsery involving the Chilterns, but proper hills with views of the shimmering sea and rolling downs.  It looks like a nice route that will inspire the right balance of admiration and expletives from those who ride it :)

I'd love to do it, but one of my NY resolutions is to only register for rides of 300km or more.  But this means, god help me, that I am very tempted to give the GMT a crack this year.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 06, 2016, 01:10:48 pm
Good that there is a 200 grimpeur in the true South.  None of the half arsery involving the Chilterns,

Sir clearly hasn't ridden the Chiltern Pub Crawl (neither have I but ECE'd the very similar 150) or I believe the AAAnfractuous. Nothing semi bottommed about those,

Ivan you realise your event is the same weekend as the Hell of thingy thingy thingy? I know opposite ends of the SE and double the distance but might affect entries?

200 calendar GdS have never been very popular; Billy supported his ones with a Wimpeur 100; mine was very cosy. You should have more luck with the hard barstewards that are Hackney Innit though  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on January 06, 2016, 01:22:39 pm
I tended to get an ok number of entries (40) but lots of DNS's.

I may dust off my 400km permanent route over the summer, to see if I can spruce it up into an event.  Although it also focusses on the golden triangle of Brighton-Battle-Orpington for its fun and games.  Which isn't a surprise, given there has always been a bit of recycling of roads between different organisers in the area over time (the Shark looks somewhat "inspired" by some of my own road choices in the Meridian and AWE).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: jsabine on January 06, 2016, 02:40:17 pm
S'pose I'd better enter this Sharknado thing, seeing as it's a bit close to home. Ivan, will you be wanting an assistant deputy tea-pourer again?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: marcusjb on January 06, 2016, 02:46:35 pm
If I don't get to Wales for Elenydd, then I might be up for riding like a left shark.

Looks a challenging day out!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on January 06, 2016, 03:08:23 pm
I'm aware of the diary clash, but believe events starting from London can attract a sizable number of people that wouldn't necessarily do any other others. Just need to get on and promote it now. The calendar is so packed with rides, seems impossible not to conflict with something - it's hard enough avoiding all the other ACH events.

Hillbilly, I tried to differentiate the route more but the nature of the requirements for quiet, direct roads between controls tends to force you onto certain well-used sections, unless you start getting carried away with info controls. However the idea to go to Seaford (as with GMC) is totally based on a suggestion by you, so feel free to claim a free entry for either event :-) Surely you could ECE it up to a 300, or does that not count for your rules?

JSabine, I think we will be ok with tea pouring - the left shark can do that I believe.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: jahs on January 06, 2016, 03:13:43 pm
Hi all, timely discussion as today I was also looking at the GdS and the SR as I realise only now that I missed out on this last year by one ride... I'm intrigued by the 400 and 600 options - any DIYs that anyone is aware of?

James (Skillen)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on January 06, 2016, 03:17:59 pm
I think we will be ok with tea pouring
One dallied with the ridiculous notion of riding to That London then riding The Shark then riding home afterwards. Then looked at the climbing involved :o. And thought about the effort involved  :o :o. Am very happy to say my offer to be deputy under-assistant trainee tea-pourer at Chiddingly has been accepted :thumbsup:. Will wear my ACH cap in vain hope that people will think I know what I'm doing ;).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: jsabine on January 06, 2016, 04:41:15 pm
JSabine, I think we will be ok with tea pouring - the left shark can do that I believe.

I'll just have to drink it then, and hope you're not imposing biscuit rationing.

Two points: not quite sure what stage it's at yet, but Meantime is pulling out of the Old Brewery (it doesn't fit with the brave new SAB Miller/AB-InBev world), and I don't know whether the naval college has yet found a new tenant, so it may not be suitable as an arrivee. And the ACH event page reckons it'll take place in April 2015 ...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Nelson Longflap on January 06, 2016, 05:07:37 pm

Am very happy to say my offer to be deputy under-assistant trainee tea-pourer at Chiddingly has been accepted :thumbsup:. Will wear my ACH cap in vain hope that people will think I know what I'm doing ;).
??? I've never associated ACH with expertise in tea pouring.  ???
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on January 06, 2016, 05:19:54 pm
Shame about the Old Brewery - thought this was on the cards, but nothing definite. Will probably fall back onto the Gypsy Moth if need be. Fixed the typo though, thanks.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on January 06, 2016, 05:27:13 pm
Hi all, timely discussion as today I was also looking at the GdS and the SR as I realise only now that I missed out on this last year by one ride... I'm intrigued by the 400 and 600 options - any DIYs that anyone is aware of?

James (Skillen)

I have some DIY routes for 400 and 600.  The 400 is ok - I've got your email so will dig it out and send.

The 600 is not nice and you'd be better advised to do the Sea Lovers 600 permanent for the GdS (it qualifies, somehow).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on January 06, 2016, 05:35:32 pm
[ ??? I've never associated ACH with expertise in tea pouring.  ???

You're right, we are more au fait with slicing cheese, but I am hoping mmmmartin can multi-task.
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11825236_875481299206882_2479785519894866406_n.jpg?oh=769b0f03d357b762ce5fd22fbf7794cc&oe=57484EC5)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 06, 2016, 11:26:12 pm
The 600 is not nice and you'd be better advised to do the Sea Lovers 600 permanent for the GdS (it qualifies, somehow).

Yes the Sea Lovers definitely stretches the definition of a SE based Grimpeur spending about 20km in the qualifying region but I was the one who drew a random map (and then had to expand it when we lost a few rides; a big plus as it turned out as it enables the IoW and Catherington events to be included) so it counts

as does LEL.....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on January 07, 2016, 07:30:04 am
LEL is a ride in the Southern Counties? Martin! Tssk.  You do realise the Northerners view that kind of thinking as colonialism?  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 07, 2016, 10:01:09 am
It starts in the qualifying region, the fact that the AAA are in Scotlandland is still within the GdS rules
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on January 07, 2016, 11:28:26 am
I'm thinking of ECEing Oasts and Coasts up to a 400km - it's not on the GdS list, but I assume it counts even though it's only part AAA rated.

For the SR 600, I've spent some time considering Sea Lovers, but can't reconcile the facts that all the climbing happens in the SW and you get to spend the overnight section in (shutdown) Cornwall. My tentative S.E. Lovers DIY will be full AAA (no trips to Norfolk like last year) with a potential overnight stop at Gatwick for the transition between Sussex and Surrey Hills. Trying to work in a trip to IoW as well. This is calling out for a mandatory route DIY, but will try and make it work with old skool controls first.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 07, 2016, 01:36:59 pm
Oasts and Coasts added  :)

Manotea has several brevets for the IOW as a DIY; I've done it like that for a few years now
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: jahs on January 07, 2016, 03:08:11 pm
I have some DIY routes for 400 and 600.  The 400 is ok - I've got your email so will dig it out and send.

The 600 is not nice and you'd be better advised to do the Sea Lovers 600 permanent for the GdS (it qualifies, somehow).

That would be fantastic, thanks!

Ivan - I'd definitely be interested if a 600 can be made to work in the SE - let me know if I can help at all. Otherwise Sea Lovers it is.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Arry-R on January 07, 2016, 09:34:32 pm
Ivan, fink you'll get 250 plus be in April.  At Chiddingfold will the good and excellent ladies of zee WI be feeding riders? As on the Ditchling devil 200.  Fink twas Highbrook they had very welcoming controllers and great refreshments.

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Redlight on January 10, 2016, 09:18:23 pm
Hills and Mills entered. As I haven't been out on the road, apart from a handful of commutes, since PBP, it's going to hurt but I figure entering an event is the only thing that's going to get me off my backside.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 10, 2016, 09:54:39 pm
No Hills and Mills for me but I did the Motts Mill bit for a laugh (fsvo laugh) today on AAA Milne

it might have dried out on the day....

I've got wind of another GdS 200 from Kingston (and by the Wheelers) watch this space...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on January 11, 2016, 11:44:25 am
I recommend some of my perm entrants  pack a lifejacket for some of the lanes...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 11, 2016, 12:27:10 pm
+1

The section between Piltdown Pond and the L turn to Barcombe (appears SO) on AAA Milne is CLOSED. Please re-route via Newick.

If you are feeling very brave there is a walkway next to the flooded section of this road which I used (just to see how much nicer it was with the water level 30cm below the walkway than 30cm above; and without a tree trunk to negotiate lengthways)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 13, 2016, 11:25:41 am
D2DR route sheet and gpx now uploaded

http://www.aukweb.com/events/detail/16-258/

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Laid Back Rich on February 02, 2016, 11:18:18 am
new GdS event in the calendar for this year in September:

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/16-368/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Arry-R on February 02, 2016, 06:40:00 pm
Richard I bet you'll get a 100 for this.  Smashing route
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 13, 2016, 10:33:03 pm
Check the first photo in the gallery; it's going to stay there a very long time

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on February 13, 2016, 11:20:26 pm
Thank you Martin. Good call.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 07, 2016, 04:47:42 pm
Who's up for the Invicta Grimpeur Sunday? my 2nd ever AAA event and still a real challenge to get up Yorks Hill (Thankfully half way this year I think) without spontaneously combusting
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Dominic on March 07, 2016, 07:40:29 pm
I will be there, first Audax in about 10 years.  Dragging my boss around with me.  I have told him it will be good for his triathlons, not sure he knows what he has let himself in for yet!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on March 13, 2016, 05:51:50 pm
Top ride today in beautiful sunshine. Back to back audaxes too lol. 300km will do me!!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 13, 2016, 07:52:55 pm
Top ride today in beautiful sunshine. Back to back audaxes too lol. 300km will do me!!

think you were in the GS Avanti Massive? well impressive pace you were all up Yorks Hill (bis) while  I was on the way back to half time;

next up Plodder's excellent Bois d' thingy (must ask him what it means google doesn't know) then The Shark followed in close pursuit by Lurcio's excellent HOTSCH

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on March 13, 2016, 08:02:46 pm

Top ride today in beautiful sunshine. Back to back audaxes too lol. 300km will do me!!

think you were in the GS Avanti Massive? well impressive pace you were all up Yorks Hill (bis) while  I was on the way back to half time;

next up Plodder's excellent Bois d' thingy (must ask him what it means google doesn't know) then The Shark followed in close pursuit by Lurcio's excellent HOTSCH

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

Hey that was the fast group! I was not in that group today. My legs were heavy! But they put out some speed :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Dominic on March 14, 2016, 07:34:34 pm
Agreed, really nice ride and nice introduction back to Audax.  Proper bike riding if I may say. Marred a bit by the theft of a bike at the end, if I heard correctly!

My boss said he is not coming on another bike ride with me but was happy to sit at work and show people his ride on Garmin connect :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on March 15, 2016, 11:58:48 am
Yes the bike theft was incredibly bad news. Will be investing in a portable lock asap.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 20, 2016, 12:23:44 pm
Did Le Bois Ocaud yesterday; an excellent ride once I'd cleansed my mind of the sight of Jane "Hummers" Fonda's leotard. Much tougher than the November version but still the iconic finish over Old Winchester Hill; with the IoW and Solent clearly visible (not long now 'til the Randonnee also a GdS)

impressive noisy take-off of a BAC 111 (edit* apparently not there are only 2 left airworthy across the Pond; wonder what it was?) just before the garden centre (from the same runway the gliding club use) shame the club wasn't welcoming cyclists because of their AGM, I gave up on the queue for breakfast at the former

comedy moment was trying to find some oil for my new and very squeaky chain; sod all at the garden centre and the hardware store in Medstead had everything you could possibly not want apart from oil so I settled for some Happy Shopper Extra Virgin Oilve Oil from the shop next door which worked surprisingly well!

my flat as possible ECE home did not go to plan ending up about 30m short of another 0.5AAA on the A32 (bikers' paradise it seems due to lack of junctions or indeed anything after the A272 at West Meon, did make me wonder why they ever thought building a railway line along there was a good idea)

Thanks Plodder and your helpers
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Plodder on March 20, 2016, 02:48:36 pm
Did Le Bois Ocaud yesterday; an excellent ride once I'd cleansed my mind of the sight of Jane "Hummers" Fonda's leotard. Much tougher than the November version burt still the iconic finish over Old Winchester Hill;

That sight will take a very long time to eradicate fully from the mind. One can always rely on Hummers unfailing ability to do the unexpected. I understand that Chillmoister otp has photographic evidence.  :hand:

Thanks Plodder and your helpers

Our pleasure. I'm pleased that you enjoyed it. Almost all your GdS flyers were taken with many discussing plans to complete the challenge.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 21, 2016, 01:47:43 pm
actually I think the plane that took off from Lasham was this; G-OSRA (or B) spotted a few days earlier by the local wildlife group & pictured here


(http://www.emsworthwildlife.hampshire.org.uk/0-0-0-wx878-plane-MP-12.03.16.jpg)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: fussballclub on March 21, 2016, 02:33:35 pm
AWE is now my new favourite ride. Swanley to Swanley last Saturday. 10 weeks after 12 weeks of non weight bearing on my right leg.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Bernster on March 21, 2016, 03:25:15 pm
+1 for AWE... I rode it Swanley to Swanley last Thursday (rode from home in Southern Hertfordshire to make it up to 200 miles) it's a fantastic ride with some stunning scenery, and even the bits in close proximity to London felt decidedly rural. There was something very satisfying about finishing that last climb near Kemsing, and near enough freewheeling all the way down into Swanley in the last of the light knowing that the hills were finished  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on April 05, 2016, 10:07:38 pm
Today I rode the perm Down to Downs, still a good ride, followed the track from the calendar event a few years ago. Heading north from Edenbridge where you turn right there is a road closed sign: after a few hundred yards there are vans and barriers and a hole in the road, but there is a one foot wide gap on the left (ie on the northern side of that road) and you can get a bike through that. I rode with someone else and we passed Liev (NOTP) who was riding it in the opposite direction.
one perm: three riders. prob not a record. but a sign of its popularity.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 05, 2016, 11:40:50 pm
Leiv had the right idea (riding in reverse) he'll be doing it that way on D2DR; much nicer IMO (although the right way is also superb)

Leiv is a stalwart supporter of the GdS (mostly perms he holds a Reliable season ticket!) and in fact I've centred my last few GdS calendar events around rides he can ride to the start of ;-)

Still a couple of days left to enter Lurcio's challenging but very scenic HOTSCH
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 28, 2016, 01:35:25 am
Anyone else up for the IOW 100km Randonnee this Sunday? worth 1.5AAA as a DIY and eligible as a GdS

www.cycleisland.co.uk

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: D O G on April 28, 2016, 12:57:24 pm
I am riding the IOW this Sunday, along with a good number of my clubmates (and others).  Can I submit as a DIY GPS retrospectively?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 28, 2016, 01:01:55 pm
I am riding the IOW this Sunday, along with a good number of my clubmates (and others).  Can I submit as a DIY GPS retrospectively?

no; you'll have to enter in advance. Assuming you are in the S East I can give you the DIY brevet number for Paul if you PM me,

Otherwise it counts as a GdS anyway even if you don't enter it as a DIY
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: D O G on May 02, 2016, 10:25:40 pm
Thanks for both the reply and the offer, unfortunately (and obviously) I missed the time slot!  Still did the ride, however, amazing weather - in stark contrast to the total whiteout we had last year.  Excellent views and the head came back sunburned which is always a good sign :D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 21, 2016, 10:26:26 pm
Great ride on the extremely tough (and on my local roads too!) Tour of the Hills again;

I stupidly ECE'd but it did involve a nice (wet) ride round Richmond Park at the end with a flat finish along the Thames

thanks Don and your helpers especially the nutrition person; I ignored the end of ride advice and just downed 3 glasses of hydration (which was very welcome) before heading out for another appointment with Combe Lane and Crocknorth road ouch!!!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 08, 2016, 11:12:52 pm
Mid Sussex Hilly / Hillier route checked today; nothing much to report apart from that the leaves need another couple of weeks to reach full glory (so just in time for the day), and the wooden signposts have broke / been reinstated as per usual.

Narrowly missed an altercation between a female deer and a couple of cars on top of Ashdown Forest, looks like no harm to any of them ;-)

Cob Lane is as hard and slippery as ever I'm afraid...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 20, 2017, 09:52:51 am
Just a reminder, the 1st of this years calendar events are Hills and Mills (5 cards left), followed by Mad Jack JSM (40 cards left).

Tim's excellent photos for H&M from last year, if you missed them -

https://picasaweb.google.com/114454292405633360220/HillsAndMillsGrimpeur2016
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 20, 2017, 01:18:27 pm
no HM for me as I'll be on the way to Madeira (although sans bike after my off last month) so there goes my 6th consecutive GdSRTY  :'(

MJJSM continues the sequence of eligible calendar events which is complete up to May; but then a break until Tour of the Hills in August

28th January - from Hailsham - Hills and Mills - 102km - 1.75 AAA
25th February - from Hailsham - Mad Jack's John Seviour Memorial - 125km - 2.5 AAA
4th March - from Catherington - Bois Ocaude de Printemps- 100km - 1.5 AAA
12th March - from Otford - Kent Invicta Grimpeur 100 - 100km - 2AAA
2nd April from Greenwich- The Shark 200km 3.25AAA
22nd April from Meopham - Oasts and Coasts-300km 1.75AAA
23rd April from Polegate - Hell of the Sussex Coastal Hills-101km 1.75AAA
30th April- Isle of Wight - "100km Randonnee" AAA 1.5
20th May from Crowborough East Sussex The Reliable 105km 1.75AAA
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Wycombewheeler on January 20, 2017, 07:28:05 pm
is there a list of qualifying calender events and perms? Do DIY rides count?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: JamieD on January 20, 2017, 08:26:46 pm
is there a list of qualifying calender events and perms? Do DIY rides count?

At the bottom of this page  https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/ is a list of qualifying events

My favourites were

* Meridian Hills
* Around Weald Expedition - The absolute highlight.
* Rowlands RAAAMble

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 20, 2017, 11:51:43 pm
is there a list of qualifying calender events and perms? Do DIY rides count?

yes; any DIY starting in the specified counties and eligible for AAA in a 100km section (even if the total ride is not eligible) counts
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 21, 2017, 12:21:59 am
no HM for me as I'll be on the way to Madeira (although sans bike after my off last month) so there goes my 6th consecutive GdSRTY  :'(

MJJSM continues the sequence of eligible calendar events which is complete up to May; but then a break until Tour of the Hills in August

28th January - from Hailsham - Hills and Mills - 102km - 1.75 AAA
25th February - from Hailsham - Mad Jack's John Seviour Memorial - 2.5 AAA

Enjoy the get away Martin,

Thanks for the above, slightly more km @105 & AAA on Hills and Mills, tis now 2 AAA, as a revised route from 2016 avoiding the busy A26.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 21, 2017, 10:19:29 am
no HM for me as I'll be on the way to Madeira (although sans bike after my off last month) so there goes my 6th consecutive GdSRTY  :'(

MJJSM continues the sequence of eligible calendar events which is complete up to May; but then a break until Tour of the Hills in August

28th January - from Hailsham - Hills and Mills - 102km - 1.75 AAA
25th February - from Hailsham - Mad Jack's John Seviour Memorial - 2.5 AAA

Enjoy the get away Martin,

Thanks for the above, slightly more km @105 & AAA on Hills and Mills, tis now 2 AAA, as a revised route from 2016 avoiding the busy A26.

 :thumbsup:

corrected now :thumbsup: I know that hill up to Crowborough having daftly reversed Meridian Hills once, much quieter than the A26 but also rather scenic, but shorter than Kidds!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on January 22, 2017, 08:59:13 am


Thanks for the above, slightly more km @105 & AAA on Hills and Mills, tis now 2 AAA, as a revised route from 2016 avoiding the busy A26.

 :thumbsup:
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corrected now :thumbsup: I know that hill up to Crowborough having daftly reversed Meridian Hills once, much quieter than the A26 but also rather scenic, but shorter than Kidds!
[/quote]

Tis called Hubbards Hill ( as featured on Tim's current Arrivee (134) cover shot  ;D) Kidds still features which is not so bad if you pace yourself, goes in three stages, final push takes you out of the tree line.

I can see a debate starting on which is the most classic col in Sussex, Willingford Lane and Peter James Lane as featured on Mad Jacks JSM  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 07, 2017, 12:09:42 pm
Sea Lovers 600 added to the list of perms here; slight bending of the rules as just about all the climbing is outside the GdS region

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

anyone want to consider a 400 for the set?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 05, 2017, 07:00:08 pm
Excellent day out on Le Bois Ocaude de Printemps (answers on a postcard) again thanks Plodder; a big field excellent route and a warm welcome at start and finish; with lots of ECE fuel! I enjoyed the ride back via Privett and a rainbow on the road to Alton

next up Invicta Grimpeur next Sunday who's in?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on March 06, 2017, 10:37:37 am
Me!

This is the 4 or 5th time I'll be doing it and if I get it right, only 2nd time it been validated  ;D :facepalm: even though i have completed it every time!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on March 09, 2017, 12:04:07 pm
Rode the AAA Milne perm on Tuesday: a quite outstanding ride, very quiet roads, lovely views, good tarmac surfaces, recommended. Very clever selection of lanes to make a worthwhile day out. For me, a good start to a year in which I hope to acquire a GdS.

One small piece of advice: when Martin's routesheet says "ford, footbridge on left recommended" it's generally a good idea to choose the recommended route. Failure to do so could mean pedalling though a ford and we all know that if you stop pedalling in a ford the bike stops and you fall over into the water so it's a better idea to keep going. Sometimes fords can be deep enough to immerse totally your feet on the downstrokes of pedalling. DAHIKT.
And of course, should you acquire soaking wet feet on a chilly winter's day, they won't warm up again. At. All.

Just sayin'.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 09, 2017, 01:51:09 pm
One small piece of advice: when Martin's routesheet says "ford, footbridge on left recommended" it's generally a good idea to choose the recommended route. Failure to do so could mean pedalling though a ford and we all know that if you stop pedalling in a ford the bike stops and you fall over into the water so it's a better idea to keep going. Sometimes fords can be deep enough to immerse totally your feet on the downstrokes of pedalling. DAHIKT.
And of course, should you acquire soaking wet feet on a chilly winter's day, they won't warm up again. At. All.

Just sayin'.

especially on the Reliable where the Ford contains a 'kin enormous pothole in the middle which will certainly cause you to stop and put both feet down. And using the narrow section of concrete that isn't potholed is likely to involve losing your balance and going bodily into the stream;

Yorshireman

"you were lucky, you should have tried AAA Milne on Christmas Eve 2013 where there were not one but two borked cars in the fords, and the section over the Ouse after Piltdown was under the Ouse by about a metre; and a full length tree trunk had lodged itself along the little footpath they normally provide so required walking along it with bike on shoulder

and two wet feet"

/Yorshireman

I told the driver of the shiny BMW it probably wasn't a good idea to drive through it when I eventually reached the dry
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 12, 2017, 06:52:10 pm
Me!

This is the 4 or 5th time I'll be doing it and if I get it right, only 2nd time it been validated  ;D :facepalm: even though i have completed it every time!

saw you on the Invicta not too many km ahead of me on the return leg as I was still doing the outward; some seriously fast GSA out there today!

roads were a lot less skoggy than recent years thank goodness we didn't have any serious rain;

Yorks Hill at the end was cruel and unusual punishment; impossible to get out of the saddle as the wheel was spinning enough without. A harsh reminder of how unfit I've become over winter without my usual GdS diet

Great ride again thanks Patrick and helpers; hope the bloke who wet BOA on Bayleys Hill is OK, it looked worse than it was I think.
Title: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on March 12, 2017, 07:01:04 pm
Me!

This is the 4 or 5th time I'll be doing it and if I get it right, only 2nd time it been validated  ;D :facepalm: even though i have completed it every time!

saw you on the Invicta not too many km ahead of me on the return leg as I was still doing the outward; some seriously fast GSA out there today!

roads were a lot less skoggy than recent years thank goodness we didn't have any serious rain;

Yorks Hill at the end was cruel and unusual punishment; impossible to get out of the saddle as the wheel was spinning enough without. A harsh reminder of how unfit I've become over winter without my usual GdS diet

Great ride again thanks Patrick and helpers; hope the bloke who wet BOA on Bayleys Hill is OK, it looked worse than it was I think.

I walked Yorks. Really pissed off with the weather forecast getting it wrong big time. Could have ridden my carbon and 32 ring :demon:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Wycombewheeler on March 12, 2017, 08:33:31 pm
I remember going up toys last may. mud all over the road picking a line with grip was tough and starting again after wheels pin impossible. Only hill I have had to walk up. Bloke 30 seconds behind had the same issue, but failed to unclip.

I can only imagine it being worse after the recent weather.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PaulOlmo on March 13, 2017, 07:47:08 pm
Me!

This is the 4 or 5th time I'll be doing it and if I get it right, only 2nd time it been validated  ;D :facepalm: even though i have completed it every time!

saw you on the Invicta not too many km ahead of me on the return leg as I was still doing the outward; some seriously fast GSA out there today!

roads were a lot less skoggy than recent years thank goodness we didn't have any serious rain;

Yorks Hill at the end was cruel and unusual punishment; impossible to get out of the saddle as the wheel was spinning enough without. A harsh reminder of how unfit I've become over winter without my usual GdS diet

Great ride again thanks Patrick and helpers; hope the bloke who wet BOA on Bayleys Hill is OK, it looked worse than it was I think.

Ditto that, but I did snap this sign on my way past, perhaps he didnt see it, I don't remember seeing it before, is it new? ....

https://goo.gl/photos/R1NbANfPEY9yCEsv9
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on March 13, 2017, 07:48:35 pm
It new but not that new. Wasn't there last year
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 13, 2017, 11:39:27 pm
The BOA was on the control on the way down at Weald (long very steep downhill over the A21) not THAT Bayley's Hill (I get very confused by them all)

Paul's photo reminded me that we were once again joined by a couple of wannabe sportives; imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on March 24, 2017, 10:15:33 am
Greenwich Mean Climb now in the calendar for 23rd Sept and 'under new management' as I'm now the official org. Tweaked the route to come back from Bexhill via Tunbridge Wells rather than Crowborough for better late night controlling options and feels a bit nicer all round based on a recent test ride, as have managed to remove at least 3 sections I wasn't that happy with.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 03, 2017, 10:11:23 am
The Crown is back for August Bank Holiday Monday; one of the original surviving GdS calendar events

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/17-747/

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 07, 2017, 09:21:34 pm
The Reliable route checked today; one major amendment, the finish control pub has closed down! so some extra scenery up to Spoons and a downhill blat back to the start, will amend the route sheet tomorrow

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/17-571/


Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 20, 2017, 12:05:12 am
65 riders  for The Reliable which is apt as it was originally run in 2011 as the 65th anniversary ESCA Reliability Trial and is 65 miles ling!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: PaulOlmo on May 20, 2017, 07:26:52 pm

Very nice outing today Martin. A lot of lanes I'd not been along before, good scenery, nice hotdog. The flat section was hard work until the turn when at last we reaped the benefit of riding into all that wind.

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: psyclist on May 20, 2017, 08:37:06 pm
A cracking ride. Lots of lovely quiet lanes, and the rain held off apart from a few spots early on. Loved the hotdog setup too ... and the finish location was much appreciated for liquid refuelling before the last 50km of my ECE.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 21, 2017, 10:39:05 am
Here are the results from 2011 when the event was a Reliability Trial; the maximum time allowed was 5 hrs!! and not all the Qualifiers were in the slowest slot

65th Anniversary Reliability Trial – Sunday 20th November 2011
Distance 65 miles Route Some of the best cycling roads the High Weald area of outstanding natural beauty has to offer 

Total Entries 131 Total Qualifiers 53
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: danrough on June 09, 2017, 02:23:27 pm
Hello all,

I noticed up thread that the Sea Lovers 600 has been included, which is great. I completed it a few weekends ago, at the second time of asking. Alan the organiser informed me that I am the first to have completed the ride.

A tough route with plenty of weather. But what beautiful scenery. When I have recovered sufficiently from the experience, and I find the time, I intend to write up a ride report with some more details. Alan has kindly provided me with some history of the ride which I will include in my report. I can highly recommend the route - well worth the effort.

I'm hoping to get a GdS SR this year, hence riding the Sea Lovers. I've already done a GdS eligible 200, and so I'm planning to do Billy Weir's GdS 400 in a few weeks time, and the excellent Greenwich Mean Climb in September.

I'll see some of you at the GMC, I'm sure.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Corlis Benefideo on June 12, 2017, 05:33:54 pm
Hello fellow Grimpers

Does anyone know if AAAnfractuous will be running again this year? I notice it is not in the Calendar. Is the organiser taking a break? I did the route a couple of years ago and really enjoyed it, so I hope it returns!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: spearmint wino on September 29, 2017, 09:32:49 am
Does anyone know if AAAnfractuous will be running again this year? I notice it is not in the Calendar. Is the organiser taking a break? I did the route a couple of years ago and really enjoyed it, so I hope it returns!

Here: http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-887/ (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-887/)

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 16, 2018, 10:14:37 pm
AAA Milne slated for another rare calendar appearance on July 7th starting from Barcombe (train That London to Lewes),same format as last time hopefully ice creams will also be required for the hot dog lunch stop in the Pooh car park.

all this for 25p more than the perm!

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-211/

 as well as Mad Jack's classics Hills and Mills and Mad Jacks John Seviour Memorial the excellent Bois Ocaud de thingy has also now gone up;

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

gonna need more medals!.....

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: psyclist on January 25, 2018, 03:08:02 pm
A tough route with plenty of weather. But what beautiful scenery. When I have recovered sufficiently from the experience, and I find the time, I intend to write up a ride report with some more details. Alan has kindly provided me with some history of the ride which I will include in my report. I can highly recommend the route - well worth the effort.

Hi, did the ride report find the light of day? If not, are there any lessons learnt from the ride that would be useful for anybody else attempting the Sea Lovers 600?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on January 25, 2018, 09:24:33 pm
about 15 of the never to be repeated free cloth badges left (for 5 years of the award, 10 rides in a year counts as 2 years)

don't all rush!

So I know I'm about a year away from getting my hands on one of these coveted badges - are there, or is it likely there will be any left this time next year?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 09, 2018, 11:30:46 pm
about 15 of the never to be repeated free cloth badges left (for 5 years of the award, 10 rides in a year counts as 2 years)

don't all rush!

So I know I'm about a year away from getting my hands on one of these coveted badges - are there, or is it likely there will be any left this time next year?

maybe
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 09, 2018, 11:33:38 pm
to anyone not a previous rider on the AAA Milne perm please be advised of a serious pothole (as in a whole section of road gone) hazard between the Ladies Mile turn (W end not on the route sheet) and Groombridge; I've emailed all my regular riders

thanks Martin

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 25, 2018, 09:45:04 pm
to anyone not a previous rider on the AAA Milne perm please be advised of a serious pothole (as in a whole section of road gone) hazard between the Ladies Mile turn (W end not on the route sheet) and Groombridge; I've emailed all my regular riders

thanks Martin

update from today's ride, it's been repaired sort of (a dollop of tarmac) but please be aware there are some pretty bad holes all the way round; easily visible in daylight but be very careful after dark. A couple of sections have been completely resurfaced but they are uphill in the normal direction of travel

quite lonely up on the Forest this afternoon
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on February 25, 2018, 11:06:16 pm
Not to mention bloody freezing cold I'm sure!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Arry-R on February 26, 2018, 01:02:11 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on March 25, 2018, 06:57:13 pm
Not many OTP on the classic Invicta Grimpeur (possibly the first GdS it certainly pre-dates the MSH) Hairiest moment descending Yorks Hill I should have used Ide Hill as usual
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on March 25, 2018, 06:59:51 pm
I bailed as I wasn’t up to the rigours of the millions of hills and went for something flatter. Next year maybe.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 08, 2018, 10:26:58 am
I'm pleased to announce that Hillbilly's two GdS 200 perms Around Weald Expedition and Meridian Hills will continue next year under new management  :)

In the meantime there's another rare calendar version of AAA Milne next month, same price as the perm with a hot dog thrown in (and maybe an ice cream  :P)

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-211/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Wycombewheeler on June 08, 2018, 11:36:02 am
I'm pleased to announce that Hillbilly's two GdS 200 perms Around Weald Expedition and Meridian Hills will continue next year under new management  :)

In the meantime there's another rare calendar version of AAA Milne next month, same price as the perm with a hot dog thrown in (and maybe an ice cream  :P)

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-211/

That's good news, I enjoyed the meridian hills the other week.

Interesting on aaa milne, this year I am determined not to stumble on 4 AAA rides like last year. (3 So far)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on June 08, 2018, 06:54:29 pm
I'm pleased to announce that Hillbilly's two GdS 200 perms Around Weald Expedition and Meridian Hills will continue next year under new management  :)

In the meantime there's another rare calendar version of AAA Milne next month, same price as the perm with a hot dog thrown in (and maybe an ice cream  :P)

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-211/

I too am glad.

I'm revisiting the Meridian Hills on Monday. Hoping they are still all there!

Hopefully be this year's Grimpeur d'Or too. Is there a designation for BR only?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 08, 2018, 09:23:05 pm
I'm pleased to announce that Hillbilly's two GdS 200 perms Around Weald Expedition and Meridian Hills will continue next year under new management  :)

In the meantime there's another rare calendar version of AAA Milne next month, same price as the perm with a hot dog thrown in (and maybe an ice cream  :P)

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-211/

I too am glad.

I'm revisiting the Meridian Hills on Monday. Hoping they are still all there!

Hopefully be this year's Grimpeur d'Or too. Is there a designation for BR only?

if you like; it will be designated 2kO; do you have to have only done 200k rides and above? I would say no as 100ks are the bread and butter of the GdS
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: psyclist on June 13, 2018, 05:20:42 am
I'm pleased to announce that Hillbilly's two GdS 200 perms Around Weald Expedition and Meridian Hills will continue next year under new management 

That's good news, until I realised it meant that I'd need to pay £1,000,000 if I wanted to ride AWE this weekend as I had planned in my schedule! Looks like I'll be missing my favourite GdS ride for a while then.

Think I'll do the Reliable this weekend for GdS, and a separate 200km ride for the points.

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 14, 2018, 07:49:52 pm
I'm pleased to announce that Hillbilly's two GdS 200 perms Around Weald Expedition and Meridian Hills will continue next year under new management 

That's good news, until I realised it meant that I'd need to pay £1,000,000 if I wanted to ride AWE this weekend as I had planned in my schedule! Looks like I'll be missing my favourite GdS ride for a while then.

Think I'll do the Reliable this weekend for GdS, and a separate 200km ride for the points.

If I was taking over AWE I'd accept an entry but I'm not (I am taking over MH though)

Enjoy the Reliable!!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Wycombewheeler on June 14, 2018, 11:00:32 pm
I'm pleased to announce that Hillbilly's two GdS 200 perms Around Weald Expedition and Meridian Hills will continue next year under new management 

That's good news, until I realised it meant that I'd need to pay £1,000,000 if I wanted to ride AWE this weekend as I had planned in my schedule! Looks like I'll be missing my favourite GdS ride for a while then.

Think I'll do the Reliable this weekend for GdS, and a separate 200km ride for the points.

wow first ride ever to make velo Birmingham look like good value
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on June 14, 2018, 11:47:46 pm
there's another rare calendar version of AAA Milne next month, same price as the perm with a hot dog thrown in (and maybe an ice cream  :P)

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-211/
In. Done this ride as the perm, it's really good, nice quiet lanes, good views etc. Can't believe there's a hot dog included in what must be the cheapest audax I ever entered since El Supremo and his Tea Bag Special at £1.
More power to your elbow, Martin. (From the other Martin)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 15, 2018, 08:43:32 pm
there's another rare calendar version of AAA Milne next month, same price as the perm with a hot dog thrown in (and maybe an ice cream  :P)

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-211/
In. Done this ride as the perm, it's really good, nice quiet lanes, good views etc. Can't believe there's a hot dog included in what must be the cheapest audax I ever entered since El Supremo and his Tea Bag Special at £1.
More power to your elbow, Martin. (From the other Martin)

although the hot dogs are not leftovers from last year's MSH I tend to subsidise events from the surplus from previous ones; AAA Milne is also a zero overhead event

sadly I can't offer a free pint of Harveys at the finish

I would love to be able to offer Mallorca Moonpig as a calendar Grimpeur du Med but TPTB won't allow it :(
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 21, 2018, 01:50:54 pm
New perm details for Meridian Hills

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/MM04/

and Around Weald Expedition

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/JJ02/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on June 21, 2018, 05:11:08 pm
New perm details for Meridian Hills

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/MM04/

and Around Weald Expedition

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/JJ02/

I notified Billy a couple of days ago that I'll be riding Monday. Is it yourself I semd receipts too, or Billy still?

Cheers, James
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 21, 2018, 05:46:56 pm
New perm details for Meridian Hills

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/MM04/

and Around Weald Expedition

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/JJ02/

I notified Billy a couple of days ago that I'll be riding Monday. Is it yourself I semd receipts too, or Billy still?

Cheers, James

me thanks. I've modified the Meridian route sheet a bit to avoid the actual Devils Dyke road in favour of Saddlescombe and also go via Withyham Spatham Lane at the Ditchling end and Hurstpierpoint * as well as Star Hill (optional) at the top end , updated gpx to follow. Although you can use whichever route you prefer.

(* and Newtimber if you don't mind 100m of fairly muddy bridleway; not too bad in summer)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on June 21, 2018, 06:01:34 pm
New perm details for Meridian Hills

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/MM04/

and Around Weald Expedition

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/JJ02/

I notified Billy a couple of days ago that I'll be riding Monday. Is it yourself I semd receipts too, or Billy still?

Cheers, James

me thanks. I've modified the Meridian route sheet a bit to avoid the actual Devils Dyke road in favour of Saddlescombe and also go via Withyham and Hurstpierpoint * as well as Star Hill (optional) at the top end , updated gpx to follow

(* and Newtimber if you don't mind 100m of fairly muddy bridleway; not too bad in summer)

Excellent. I shall have a peruse later on this evening.

Are we still able to ride either direction?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 21, 2018, 11:26:40 pm
Are we still able to ride either direction?

yes of course; If Hubbards (Crowborough) Toys and Barsted that way round float your  boat. Did it once never again!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on June 22, 2018, 11:39:20 am
Are we still able to ride either direction?

yes of course; If Hubbards (Crowborough) Toys and Barsted that way round float your  boat. Did it once never again!

I've done it once too and the "wrong" way round definitely felt like the harder way round. I put it down to an off day and a bad wind though.

We'll find out on Monday......maybe.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on June 27, 2018, 10:12:14 pm
there's another rare calendar version of AAA Milne next month, same price as the perm with a hot dog thrown in (and maybe an ice cream  :P)

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-211/
In. Done this ride as the perm, it's really good, nice quiet lanes, good views etc. Can't believe there's a hot dog included in what must be the cheapest audax I ever entered since El Supremo and his Tea Bag Special at £1.
More power to your elbow, Martin. (From the other Martin)

AAA Milne entries healthy and they may close early. Not sure what the form is with this as it's still slated to close the night before.

The first riders thru Pooh car park will get the super jumbo rather than the normal jumbo hot dogs; they appear to have been discontinued so there are only 16 left in Ye Shedde

and Soleros (or the Tesco version|) too ;P
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: perpetual dan on June 28, 2018, 11:01:52 pm
I’m looking forward to the AAA Milne, it’s been far too long since I’ve done one of your rides (or indeed any Audax).
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 08, 2018, 04:11:08 pm
A good turnout for AAA Milne yesterday; thanks to everyone for supporting and even travelling some distance to the event. Pooh's balloon in the car park spontaneously exploded but Pooh himself found a good home with some of the global travellers to this lovely spot (note to self, do a recce of the route to the Pooh sticks bridge and other related places next time so I can provide tourist info)

https://suitcasesandsandcastles.com/2017/03/28/find-winnie-pooh-ashdown-forest/

A good atmosphere at the finish, thanks for your patience (mainly in getting served at the bar due to another minority sporting event!)

chapeau to the rider who ECE'd to 300 :-O
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Huff n Puff on July 09, 2018, 01:57:16 pm


chapeau to the rider who ECE'd to 300 :-O

Everything was fine up to about 230km then the afternoon heat really started to affect me! Lost count of how many times I stopped to buy more water in the 30 degrees heat....just poured some of it over my head to try and cool down. Disappointed that there was more traffic on the road on the way back to London than anticipated.....it seems that the whole nation isn't actually watching Southgate's Soccer Stars after all!

Great event, and really enjoyed it again!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: GrumpyGregry on July 16, 2018, 04:37:31 pm
I'm what you might call "Grimpeur-curious" and, if the new cassette turns up in time, intend to have a crack at the AAA Milne as a DIY in September. I may even try it with the gearing as is. It has got me up Duncton, the north side, with a gear to spare after 80km and Ditchling too, in recent weeks, but the idea of trying 100km in the Surrey Hills, local to me on 36 x 28 makes my knees knock.

You may find my corpse by the side of a hillside road as a result but all good practise for next season I reckon.

But can someone give me a summary of what the "Grimpeurs du Sud is about"? Googling seems to lead to various dead-ends.

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: psyclist on July 16, 2018, 07:44:28 pm
But can someone give me a summary of what the "Grimpeurs du Sud is about"? Googling seems to lead to various dead-ends.

This'll help, all you ever wanted to know: https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/ (https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 16, 2018, 10:24:27 pm
No need to DIY AAA Milne and please don't it's available as a proper perm all year round. Details in psyclist's link  :)
And a lot more challenging at times, like when the Ouse is in flood and you have to use the walkways or even a tree trunk I kid you not
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: GrumpyGregry on July 17, 2018, 11:05:00 am
No need to DIY AAA Milne and please don't it's available as a proper perm all year round. Details in psyclist's link  :)
And a lot more challenging at times, like when the Ouse is in flood and you have to use the walkways or even a tree trunk I kid you not
I'm a klutz - I meant as a perm not a DIY, sorry.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: GrumpyGregry on July 17, 2018, 11:27:17 am
But can someone give me a summary of what the "Grimpeurs du Sud is about"? Googling seems to lead to various dead-ends.

This'll help, all you ever wanted to know: https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/ (https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/)
Work seems to have took agin that site. Smartphone to the rescue. Sounds like a fun challenge as, obviously, as a 100+ kg lard arse ex-rugby player I love climbing.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: psyclist on July 17, 2018, 12:11:06 pm
Sounds like a fun challenge

Be careful, it'll suck you in. I was looking at the list of riders late last year, and noticed the letters after some of riders' names. I'm now on track to get the Grimpeur d'Or, SR, and GdSRTY.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: GrumpyGregry on July 17, 2018, 05:54:08 pm
August, September, October, November, December ....

Is that a plan I see before me?

Assume I can do the same ride more than once if I fancy or do it twice in opposite directions?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on July 17, 2018, 06:20:52 pm
I recomend Tour of the Hills in August, and Rowlands RAAAMBLe (or Greenwhich Mean Climb if you feel brave) in September. I think AAAnfractuous in October qualifies too.

All calendars, so there will be people for encouragement/distraction.

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 17, 2018, 09:16:59 pm

Assume I can do the same ride more than once if I fancy or do it twice in opposite directions?
Yes of course, there are a few generic GdS out there (same ride 5 times)

All those above count. Plus any you wish to DIY.

Even LEL, now who wants to be first to do it as a DIY? ;)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: cygnet on July 18, 2018, 09:19:19 am
Even LEL, now who wants to be first to do it as a DIY? ;)

It's been done  :o
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 24, 2018, 10:24:18 am
Mid Sussex Hillier

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-228/

and Hilly

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-434/

now open for entries. Hilly entrants (only) are allowed to walk Cob Lane  ;). Note the Hilly has now reverted permanently to the 2004 route avoiding the Ashdown Forest summit as there are now plenty of other opportunities to traverse this bit
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on July 24, 2018, 10:31:37 am
Assume I can do the same ride more than once if I fancy or do it twice in opposite directions?
Hey, Grumps, the GdS series is about as flexible as you could wish. And the distance means you can do it in winter without freezing to death in the cold dark night. So it's ideal for an AAA-RRTY.

(See you on Friday night.)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on July 24, 2018, 10:38:46 am
Please note; owing to a general downgrade of AAA in the SE I cannot guarantee that the IOW Round the Island ride (held as a non AUK calendar event on the first May Bank Holiday Sunday and available all year round otherwise) is still eligible for AAA as a DIY by GPS; it is however still a discretionary counting ride towards the GdS (only once a year)

http://www.cycleisland.co.uk/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: GrumpyGregry on July 25, 2018, 01:50:24 pm
Please note; owing to a general downgrade of AAA in the SE I cannot guarantee that the IOW Round the Island ride (held as a non AUK calendar event on the first May Bank Holiday Sunday and available all year round otherwise) is still eligible for AAA as a DIY by GPS; it is however still a discretionary counting ride towards the GdS (only once a year)

http://www.cycleisland.co.uk/
Isostatic Recovery affecting the steepness of the climbs?

PS Thanks for dropping the AAA Milne Permie Brevet through the door.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: GrumpyGregry on July 25, 2018, 01:56:11 pm
Assume I can do the same ride more than once if I fancy or do it twice in opposite directions?
Hey, Grumps, the GdS series is about as flexible as you could wish. And the distance means you can do it in winter without freezing to death in the cold dark night. So it's ideal for an AAA-RRTY.

(See you on Friday night.)
and an opportunity for a spot of pre-loved n+1.  For 200km hilly rides I want something with slacker gearing than compact+10-speed campag the best bike has. All the clever bits SJS have to address that are not in stock, don't really want to do said rides on "The Tank" and have folk point adn laugh at my triple*, when, hey presto, look what bargain pops up on bookface!

*I know they won't but avoidance of derision is a key driver for me, except in matters of belly size and comedy facial hair.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 18, 2018, 07:06:00 pm
I'm pleased to confirm that Down to Downs the first ever GdS perm will make another calendar appearance (the right way round, it ran in reverse in 2006) next May; Uckfield start lunch stop somewhere inside the M25

watch this space...
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on August 18, 2018, 07:40:16 pm
I'm excited about this. Fits perfectly my ride to every ride next season goal and has massive ECE potential for 3 points AND bonus AAA.

I've got a perm card in my drawer from last season that I never got round to riding before this season ( my stupid 100 BR(M) only AAA mission ), but I've ridden it a couple of times with Green St Green and Edenbridge.

Just gotta be on a sunday......
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: bludger on August 18, 2018, 11:02:03 pm
I'll be seeing some of you for some trundles up them hills tomorrow.

No teasing of my easygoing pace please !
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on August 19, 2018, 05:59:21 am
I'll be admiring your easy going pace from behind.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 20, 2018, 10:26:05 am
I'm excited about this. Fits perfectly my ride to every ride next season goal and has massive ECE potential for 3 points AND bonus AAA.

I've got a perm card in my drawer from last season that I never got round to riding before this season ( my stupid 100 BR(M) only AAA mission ), but I've ridden it a couple of times with Green St Green and Edenbridge.

Just gotta be on a sunday......

Sorry it will be a Saturday, Southern usually gives up on a train service on many Sundays and I won't know until a few weeks before.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on August 20, 2018, 11:18:44 am
I'm excited about this. Fits perfectly my ride to every ride next season goal and has massive ECE potential for 3 points AND bonus AAA.

I've got a perm card in my drawer from last season that I never got round to riding before this season ( my stupid 100 BR(M) only AAA mission ), but I've ridden it a couple of times with Green St Green and Edenbridge.

Just gotta be on a sunday......

Sorry it will be a Saturday, Southern usually gives up on a train service on many Sundays and I won't know until a few weeks before.

Not a deal breaker. If I take a week's holiday over Easter, I'll have conjured up a spare holiday day. Magic.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: bludger on August 20, 2018, 11:57:06 am
I managed to make a f*** up and steered the wrong way, taking the wrong loop too early, so got a DNF.

Still a great day out though, cracking route and volunteer service. And it's on Strava so it did happen 8)

Got my medal and jelly beans too!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Pete Mas on August 20, 2018, 01:28:27 pm
Yes a great day out in the Surrey Hills.The ride was a 'Shere delight' Thanks due to all the volunteers.
I teamed up with Keith from Yorkshire at the start, once we ascertained we were both seeking a ride at 'Gentleman's pace.'
It was chilly in the morning but warmed up considerably in the afternoon.
We managed all the hills without having to walk, and kept just ahead of the audax clock, and enjoyed the selection of food and drinks available at Shere village hall.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 19, 2018, 11:25:04 am
The very first GdS perm Down to Downs makes its second calendar appearance (or rather the right way round having reversed in 2016) next year

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/19-116/

slightly different route avoiding Edenbridge on the way up
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: mmmmartin on September 23, 2018, 04:29:42 pm
Am elsewhere on a 600 that weekend, but can thoroughly recommend this route, I know it well and it's a cracker.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 30, 2018, 04:29:12 pm
Mid Sussex Hilly and Hillier entries coming in nicely; the Hilly seems to be picking up more entries from the old guard, there is just the one route now which is the 2004 one; it really is all over after just before the hot dog stop but you will envy those with a commanding view from Ditchling Beacon
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: EllysH on October 04, 2018, 02:18:41 pm
Excellent reminder that I need to get my hillier entry in.

Doing the AAA Milne as a perm this weekend try shake the autumn off my legs...

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Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: TigaSefi on October 04, 2018, 05:59:45 pm
Mid Sussex Hilly and Hillier entries coming in nicely; the Hilly seems to be picking up more entries from the old guard, there is just the one route now which is the 2004 one; it really is all over after just before the hot dog stop but you will envy those with a commanding view from Ditchling Beacon

Checking the weather before I enter! Hillier for me! Cob Lane too!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on October 04, 2018, 06:14:34 pm
Despite concerns about the trains (LamesThink) I've signed up for the Hilly.  I'll be lined up for my hot dog provided Southern don't pull their trains to Uckfield.

My finger lingered on the Hillier.  But up and down Ditchling is a walk I can do without.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 14, 2018, 07:12:22 pm
Dear riders; a quick update on the Mid Sussex route sheets / gps following a route check yesterday

Both routes

105.4 Hilly / 103.3 Hillier

R no $ Honeypot Lane now has a sign $ CHAILEY

Hilly only​, a couple of gpx errors.

The first, not very important, is where the route crosses London Road at Ringles Cross north
of Uckfield. At this point the gps takes an unnecessary back road diversion.
The other is more significant. Coming down to Ardingly Reservoir from Street Lane, the gps wants to take us along the edge of the water instead of following the road

Please stick to the roads at both these locations!

Hillier only

59.8 1st R no $ Rocks Lane

This now has no signpost at all; it is quite hard to spot and doesn't even look like a road! but it is more or less opposite the turning into the road on the left. If you get to the railway station you have gone too far!

77.8 1st should say 1st R Hurstpierpoint

92.6 Ditchling Beacon info control

The answer I was looking for is very hard to see since the new ticket machines, any piece of information from the board by the machine will suffice

Other than that everything is in place for a great ride including the autumn colours!, look forward to seeing you on the day.


I took the chance to pause to watch a mother fallow deer and her little one half way up Cob Lane (well that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: EllysH on October 14, 2018, 07:58:54 pm




I took the chance to pause to watch a mother fallow deer and her little one half way up Cob Lane (well that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!)

That's a good reminder to loosen my cleats, don't want to be stuck when I come to a halt!

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Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 21, 2018, 08:26:41 pm
Mid Sussex Hilly and Hillier entries coming in nicely; the Hilly seems to be picking up more entries from the old guard, there is just the one route now which is the 2004 one; it really is all over after just before the hot dog stop but you will envy those with a commanding view from Ditchling Beacon

Checking the weather before I enter! Hillier for me! Cob Lane too!

Thanks everyone for bringing the weather; a good turnout in glorious conditions with a good ECE turnout to beat Network Rail at their game!

and a very special thanks to Ann Manotea and Huff n Puff at the controls., without whom...

Next up Plodder's excellent Bois thingy thingy 10 November
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Phil W on October 21, 2018, 08:44:32 pm
Was on a new Thameslink through train on Thu.  They now have proper bike space in carriage 3 near front and at back end of train.  Certainly makes Sussex events a more realistic prospect now if starts are near train stations.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: hillbilly on October 22, 2018, 09:39:00 am
Well, when the London-Brighton-Lewes lines are open.  Which is "not very often" for every weekend between now and Easter.  If and when that is sorted it will be great (particularly with East Croydon, Redhill and Three Bridges on the lines and being the main interchanges).

Likewise if the Thameslink timetable gets its act together and recommences the planned more frequent services from the London/Brighton corridor to Cambridge (admittedly this is the wrong thread to be mentioning rides in Cambridgeshire, but its not often one gets to make a vaguely relevant public service announcement here)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 02, 2019, 01:07:25 pm
Updated with MJ's early events; currently you could complete the series by May but waiting for a couple of other spring regulars

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: markldn on January 07, 2019, 07:24:53 pm
Re: upcoming Hailsham events, ie Hills and Mills; Mad Jack's

Is anyone driving down from London?  It's all bus service from East Croydon on the dates.  I live in Sutton.  Would be amazing if someone could give me a lift.  Thinking alternatively of renting a car....
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 08, 2019, 12:44:18 pm
There are trains to Uckfield both days then a 19km ride
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: markldn on January 10, 2019, 02:57:38 pm
There are trains to Uckfield both days then a 19km ride

Amazing, thank you.  So hard to know what alternatives there might be without randomly guessing stations.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 11, 2019, 11:45:45 am
There are trains to Uckfield both days then a 19km ride

Amazing, thank you.  So hard to know what alternatives there might be without randomly guessing stations.

I had the same problem with my event in October the main line was shut so I suggested Uckfield as an alternative to Haywards Heath;

FWIW I don't think it's possible to get to Hailsham via Lewes when the trains are running in time for the usual start; having tried before

Have you checked Travelodge? they are offering 40% off Friday nights at the moment and there's one about a mile from the start
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: maffyoube on January 11, 2019, 02:48:44 pm
Victoria to Polegate (3 or 4 miles from Hailsham)?

No sign of rail replacement buses on the 26th?

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 11, 2019, 03:45:46 pm
Victoria to Polegate (3 or 4 miles from Hailsham)?

No sign of rail replacement buses on the 26th?

He's right, change at East Croydon and Haywards Heath. Polegate is a nice ride on the Cuckoo Trail all tarmac, half hour max

You can also just about get there for Mad Jacks but you will have to go via Littlehampton and Brighton
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: psyclist on January 11, 2019, 05:23:41 pm
The other option, of course, is to ECE from somewhere closer to London, if that is the direction you are travelling down from.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: markldn on January 12, 2019, 05:18:55 pm
Victoria to Polegate (3 or 4 miles from Hailsham)?

No sign of rail replacement buses on the 26th?

He's right, change at East Croydon and Haywards Heath. Polegate is a nice ride on the Cuckoo Trail all tarmac, half hour max

You can also just about get there for Mad Jacks but you will have to go via Littlehampton and Brighton

That wasn't possible when I checked. They had rail replacement buses starting at Gatwick to Brighton.

Then again, see below from gatwick's website:

Quote
Saturday 26 and Sunday 27 January - no direct trains to London all weekend

No direct trains to London all weekend
Services will operate between Gatwick and London on a diverted route via Horsham and will take considerably longer than normal
All southbound trains will terminate at Redhill. Replacement buses will operate between Redhill and Gatwick
All northbound trains will terminate at Gatwick Airport or Three Bridges
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: grams on January 12, 2019, 08:31:09 pm
No works are currently showing on the Gatwick Express or Southern websites - although there was when I checked a week or two back. Perhaps the engineering work has been cancelled/rescheduled?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 13, 2019, 11:33:57 am
I rode the original GdS perm Down to Downs yesterday, quite a feisty little number especially starting from Edenbridge with the almost immediate double whammy of Toys and Barsted hills.

You will get more of a warm up in the calendar version with a traverse of Ashdown Forest after the start

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/19-116/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: markldn on January 14, 2019, 01:51:26 pm
No works are currently showing on the Gatwick Express or Southern websites - although there was when I checked a week or two back. Perhaps the engineering work has been cancelled/rescheduled?

Yeah, I think this is what happened.  https://brightonmainline.co.uk/mark-the-dates-in-your-diary/ (https://brightonmainline.co.uk/mark-the-dates-in-your-diary/) shows 26 Jan as being clear.  Polegate it is!

It's showing no trains for 23 Feb's Mad Jack's - John Seviour Memorial though.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: EllysH on January 14, 2019, 07:47:58 pm
No works are currently showing on the Gatwick Express or Southern websites - although there was when I checked a week or two back. Perhaps the engineering work has been cancelled/rescheduled?

Yeah, I think this is what happened.  https://brightonmainline.co.uk/mark-the-dates-in-your-diary/ (https://brightonmainline.co.uk/mark-the-dates-in-your-diary/) shows 26 Jan as being clear.  Polegate it is!

It's showing no trains for 23 Feb's Mad Jack's - John Seviour Memorial though.
I'm thinking a nice pootle from Polegate and a ECE back into London.

To my neck of the woods it should finish up as an imperial century. :)

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Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: markldn on January 15, 2019, 02:52:43 pm
Quote
I'm thinking a nice pootle from Polegate and a ECE back into London.

To my neck of the woods it should finish up as an imperial century. :)

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Nice.  That is not a bad idea which I would consider as well but doing a 200 this weekend and only just beginning my training so don't want to overdo it.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: EllysH on January 15, 2019, 05:44:38 pm
Quote
I'm thinking a nice pootle from Polegate and a ECE back into London.

To my neck of the woods it should finish up as an imperial century. :)

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Nice.  That is not a bad idea which I would consider as well but doing a 200 this weekend and only just beginning my training so don't want to overdo it.  Good luck.
I'm glad you like my plan :)

... however, I've mislead you. I meant to say I was doing this for the Mad Jack in Feb. Sadly I'm working during the next ride :/

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Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on January 15, 2019, 11:03:20 pm
I can vouch from experience that Hailsham is a very good place to ECE to / from, easy relatively quiet (at that time of day) A road down and plenty of choice of routes back whether they be extra AAA North or along the coast to where Southern or South Eastern are running a proper train service
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: markldn on January 16, 2019, 11:03:45 am
Quote
I'm thinking a nice pootle from Polegate and a ECE back into London.

To my neck of the woods it should finish up as an imperial century. :)

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Nice.  That is not a bad idea which I would consider as well but doing a 200 this weekend and only just beginning my training so don't want to overdo it.  Good luck.
I'm glad you like my plan :)

... however, I've mislead you. I meant to say I was doing this for the Mad Jack in Feb. Sadly I'm working during the next ride :/

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Oh right, well great minds think alike because I noted down in my audax planner to potentially ECE back from the John Seviour.

I can vouch from experience that Hailsham is a very good place to ECE to / from, easy relatively quiet (at that time of day) A road down and plenty of choice of routes back whether they be extra AAA North or along the coast to where Southern or South Eastern are running a proper train service

Nice.  Will definitely consider it.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on February 26, 2019, 11:02:29 pm
The photo gallery has apparently retired  :( not sure how I'm going to get all the photos back on the webpage (google photos apparently) watch this space...


https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on April 28, 2019, 08:23:04 pm
Next up (unless you count the IOW Randonnee next weekend which still counts but is probably not worth AAA under the new system) is Down to Downs; the original GdS perm on its second calendar appearance (unless you count the reversed version I ran a few years ago)


Big hills bacon baps (and veggie versions!)  and soup for £3 what's not to like?

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/19-116/
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: grimpeur du sudocrem on April 29, 2019, 09:00:45 am
See you at the start Martin!
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 12, 2019, 09:45:29 pm
Down to Downs route checked; just one amendment please check the newly uploaded route sheet which also contains information about free parking on the day; do not park at McDs all day you will be done; we will redirect as required  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: grimpeur du sudocrem on May 18, 2019, 07:54:12 pm
Thanks for a great day out Martin!

Was amazing how many people can't count up to a very small number for the last info - our little group of 3 eventually nailed it but only after each getting different wrong answers the first time  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: EllysH on May 18, 2019, 08:37:29 pm
Thanks for a great day out Martin!

Was amazing how many people can't count up to a very small number for the last info - our little group of 3 eventually nailed it but only after each getting different wrong answers the first time  :facepalm:
I thought it was 1!

Whoops.

Fantastic day, Martin! Must be a little unfit as I was absolutely dead by the time I made it to the arivee.

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Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 18, 2019, 10:37:32 pm
The answer was 3; that was the village sign at the actual turn (as in a big tall one on a post rather than the one as you come into or even leave the village). There were other village signs but not at the turn. Everyone who came up with a number from 1-3 was validated.

Glad there wasn't a newly burnt out car at the Star Hill control

Little while to wait now for the next one, Tour of the Hills in August. Sadly we've lost 3 this year due to the AAA changes.


MSH / Hillier on 19 October
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: grimpeur du sudocrem on May 19, 2019, 08:14:23 am
I stopped on the far side of the junction and couldn't actually make out the carvings around the outside from there, so I thought it was 1. My companions were closer and saw 2 carved horses but somehow didn't spot the bright red metal horse in the middle. A brief consultation and recount ensued and we agreed on 3, and eye tests all round  :P

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: EllysH on May 19, 2019, 08:58:03 am


Sadly we've lost 3 this year due to the  changes.



I've heard about this, but not actually looked at the rules - what are the changes?

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Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on May 19, 2019, 11:44:34 am
The new AAA software is generally marking down rides by about 0.25AAA. Some events like the Rowlands RAAAmble and those from Catherington were just on the threshold under the old system so have now lost their points.

In the case of the Catherington events they seem to have completely disappeared which is a great shame as they are excellent (not sure if related to AAA)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on August 29, 2019, 12:36:56 pm
Next year's GdS perm making a rare calendar appearance will be The Reliable on Sat 16.5.2020 starting from Crowborough  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: robhyde on September 10, 2019, 05:20:47 pm
Oasts and Coasts was another good ride that qualified for GdS that lost its AAA from last year unfortunately.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: telstarbox on September 10, 2019, 08:01:15 pm
Got in just in time for O&C then. Although it has a few big climbs I wasn't sure where the AAA qualifying section was - would it be the first 100/150 km?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: robhyde on September 10, 2019, 08:49:05 pm
Got in just in time for O&C then. Although it has a few big climbs I wasn't sure where the AAA qualifying section was - would it be the first 100/150 km?

Yep it was Toys Hill / Hartfield / the climb onto the Ashdown, all in the first 100km. I did it again this year, certainly still felt like an AAA ride, even if computer says no : )
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 10, 2019, 10:30:00 pm
I'd like to add that I worked with many of the organisers and the former AUK AAA delegates to make many GdS rides AAA eligible; but it's been decided that new (completely unvalidated BTW, the old system required several independent tracks of the same route which I don't believe has happened with the new tool) AUK software knows more about the hills in the South East, which were still there and the same height last time I looked  >:(

SE AAA rides have often been on the cusp due to their nature which involves many short sharp climbs and a general lower maximum altitude at the summits. Any new climbing calculation software tool needs to take this into account.

The whole idea of the award was to encourage riders in the SE to ride hilly events without having to exclusively travel to other traditional AAA places in the UK

Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: grimpeur du sudocrem on September 11, 2019, 08:40:57 am
Its a great award Martin, and does encourage this rider at least - but yeah it is a shame to have lost calendar events from the AAA inventory due to a new tool.

Your efforts are very much appreciated though, and thanks for rotating the perms as calendar events - hopefully I won't have any diary clashes for Reliable 2020  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 11, 2019, 10:43:20 am
BBc London 600 added  :thumbsup: The first calendar 600 to qualify

Anyone want to run a 400?  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: robhyde on September 11, 2019, 11:55:40 am
BBc London 600 added  :thumbsup: The first calendar 600 to qualify

Anyone want to run a 400?  :)

This looks great! Literally just sent off my cheque for the BCM but might have to do both.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on September 27, 2019, 08:11:51 pm
Mid Sussex Hilly / Hillier entries coming in nicely. One of the original GdS events (in fact the Hilly pre-dates the award by 6 years). The Hillier adds a few extra climbs around East Grinstead and of course Ditchling Beacon (up and back down) almost at the end.

Manotea aka "Mr Westler" will satisfy your post Cob Lane lunchtime hunger with hot dogs (veggie as well)  :P

also the last eligible calendar event of 2019; the GdS runs Jan to Dec  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: RideHard on October 01, 2019, 10:05:34 pm
new Steam Rides adding for 2020

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

www.steamride.co.uk

Chiltern Pub Crawl 200
Planning for 2020..

... thinking of running in June 2021, for the GdS RRTY, would that be better timing ???
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 01, 2019, 10:11:44 pm
as there isn't currently a GdS RRTY (most calendar events are sub 200 and thanks to the new AAA system there is only one eligible 200, yours) hard to comment
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: robhyde on October 02, 2019, 09:25:32 am
as there isn't currently a GdS RRTY (most calendar events are sub 200 and thanks to the new AAA system there is only one eligible 200, yours) hard to comment

Isn't The Shark also an eligible 200... ?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 02, 2019, 12:30:52 pm
as there isn't currently a GdS RRTY (most calendar events are sub 200 and thanks to the new AAA system there is only one eligible 200, yours) hard to comment

Isn't The Shark also an eligible 200... ?

yes  :-[
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 04, 2019, 12:58:09 pm
2 new Steam Rides added for 2020

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

Both rides are qualifiers for the new ACH SR in 2020:  www.steamride.co.uk

Steam Ride:University Challenge 600
https://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/20-617/

Chiltern Pub Crawl 200
https://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/20-294/


Unfortunately the Steam Ride:University Challenge 600 2.5AAA, GdS hyper-link is linking to the Island ride 1.5.. ???


as well as my other AUK admin I do have a full time job!  :-\ I'll get round to it in due course I don't usually update next year's events until nearer January.

Which 300? Oasts and Coasts has also lost its AAA IIRC :(
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: robhyde on October 04, 2019, 03:18:25 pm
2 new Steam Rides added for 2020

https://sites.google.com/site/grimpeursdusud/

Both rides are qualifiers for the new ACH SR in 2020:  www.steamride.co.uk

Steam Ride:University Challenge 600
https://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/20-617/

Chiltern Pub Crawl 200
https://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/20-294/


Unfortunately the Steam Ride:University Challenge 600 2.5AAA, GdS hyper-link is linking to the Island ride 1.5.. ???


as well as my other AUK admin I do have a full time job!  :-\ I'll get round to it in due course I don't usually update next year's events until nearer January.

Which 300? Oasts and Coasts has also lost its AAA IIRC :(

Greenwich Mean Climb definitely hasn't lost its AAA, and then possibly The Dean? (I don't think the Dean counts towards GdS tbh)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: psyclist on October 04, 2019, 04:38:53 pm
ACME Grand counts, with 9.25 AAA points. I think I used that last year in obtaining my GdS SR, and it is running again next September.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 04, 2019, 10:16:01 pm
sorry yes GMC 300 counts, as does ACME 1000  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on October 06, 2019, 09:58:48 am
ACME Grand counts, with 9.25 AAA points. I think I used that last year in obtaining my GdS SR, and it is running again next September.

Also continuing to push the GdS region envelope, a couple more 1000's: KWAC's London–Land’s End–London and ACB's Cornish Riviera Express Perm?
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on October 13, 2019, 10:15:46 pm
Mid Sussex Hillier route checked today; will upload a revised route sheet / GPX tomorrow. Please note it's not the same as last year (which was the route on the webpage until I took it down today)

Hilly also route checked thanks Anton  :thumbsup: please use the route sheet and gpx updated today (15th)

it's gonna be busy! unfortunately my sacrificial org's ride didn't attract much rain
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 13, 2019, 08:32:45 pm
I'm trying to enter Hills and Mills but despite the Paypal button there is no entry option :(
MJ can you check?  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: grimpeur du sudocrem on November 13, 2019, 09:01:54 pm
Same for me.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: psyclist on November 14, 2019, 05:49:17 am
There was text on the Hills and Mills page to say entries not open until 26th November. That text has gone (or I can’t see it for looking), but I don’t see an entry button yet.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 22, 2019, 10:32:55 pm
It is with sadness that I need to announce that the DIYs previously advertised as eligible

Surrey Secrets

Westerly CC DIYs


are now withdrawn as they can no longer be guaranteed any AAA at all by the new AUK AAA system

Thanks  :'(
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on November 26, 2019, 10:15:17 pm
There was text on the Hills and Mills page to say entries not open until 26th November. That text has gone (or I can’t see it for looking), but I don’t see an entry button yet.

Entered  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Mad Jack on November 26, 2019, 10:41:03 pm
I'm trying to enter Hills and Mills but despite the Paypal button there is no entry option :(
MJ can you check?  :)

Greetings, yes Hills and Mills is now open for business, thanks for your entries.  aukweb.net/events/detail/20-77/
Somehow missed the Cal page in the last Arrivee hence opened entries a month early.  ;D

MJJSM opens 24/12/19    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Pete L on December 02, 2019, 10:11:15 pm
I did Surrey Secrets a couple of weeks ago, and was still awaiting the AAA points to appear when I read this. So I was surprised to see that 1.75 pts and 1,870 m of climb had appeared in my results against it a few days ago. Only difference from the RWGPS route linked from the GDS site was that I reordered it to do Box Hill first, to avoid the crowds, and took a slightly different out and back route into Polesden Lacey, maybe adding an extra 20m or so. Other than that, it was exactly the same route. Surely those changes wouldn't be enough to make the difference between 0 and 1.75 points?

I am genuinely intrigued as to how it could have lost its points. If it was just hovering on the 1500m threshold then I could understand it, but it seemed to be above the threshold by a decent margin.

Pete 

It is with sadness that I need to announce that the DIYs previously advertised as eligible

Surrey Secrets

Westerly CC DIYs


are now withdrawn as they can no longer be guaranteed any AAA at all by the new AUK AAA system

Thanks  :'(
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 03, 2019, 12:04:50 pm
I'm not saying Surrey Secrets has lost it's AAA; just that I'm no longer advertising DIY routes on the GdS webpage as their AAA points are very device specific and generally on a downward trend.

The route is still here if anyone wants to ride it

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/16458246
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: grimpeur du sudocrem on December 03, 2019, 01:49:20 pm
How are DIY by GPS rides assessed for AAA points?

I assuming some sort of calculation tool is used, rather than using the altitude readings on the GPX file from the ride, which not only vary widely between devices but also in my experience vary wildly depending on how much water gets into the barometer.

Just curious as I'm planning to do more DIYs with AAA points in mind and want to know how best to ensure I don't come up short.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on December 03, 2019, 02:49:45 pm
They are assessed in the same way as routes for calendar rides with a tool that uses Ordnance Survey elevation data (in Great Britain) - any altitude values from the device itself are ignored. If you have any particular concerns about any rides you have planned/ridden please contact me directly via the aaa at audax.uk email address and I will do my best to help - I am running a slight backlog on DIY assessments at the moment mainly due to the season changeover.

Martin's choice of what is and isn't eligible for GdS is up to him, and if he doesn't want to accept DIY rides that's fine, however I do disagree with his opinion on the current state of AAA assessments, but maybe we can just leave it at that.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Pete L on December 03, 2019, 07:46:28 pm
Thanks for the clarification - I had misinterpreted your post as being rather more drastic than it actually was  :facepalm:

So in summary then:

1. Validated DIYs with AAA points are still accepted for GDS
2. But its up to us to find (or create) them
3. And its up to us to satisfy ourselves that they will get the AAA points that we expect, to avoid disappointment (possibly by an email to aaa)

Pete
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 03, 2019, 11:14:06 pm

Martin's choice of what is and isn't eligible for GdS is up to him, and if he doesn't want to accept DIY rides that's fine, however I do disagree with his opinion on the current state of AAA assessments, but maybe we can just leave it at that.

DIY AAA rides are perfectly acceptable for the GdS as long as they start in the specified counties and have a minimum 100km section worth at least 1.5AAA,

the latest update to the webpage is that I'm no longer willing to advertise previously eligible DIYs as many of these have been demonstrated to be now worth less than the previously awarded amount of climbing. Which BTW makes the previous SE based AAA champions' totals possibly seem not what they were.

That's all
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on December 03, 2019, 11:17:12 pm
AAA points have ‘changed value’ several times since the scheme was created. It isn’t really possible to compare AAA points totals that are widely separated in time.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 03, 2019, 11:23:13 pm
AAA points have ‘changed value’ several times since the scheme was created. It isn’t really possible to compare AAA points totals that are widely separated in time.

I'm aware of the 2009 change which was to award AAA based on metres climbed irrespective of distance (subject to a threshold for each distance) but that rule hasn't changed since in AUK AFAIK. What has changed is that previously eligible rides (calendar perm and DIY) have been downgraded but not uniformly across the UK. The South East with our many shorter sharper hills with lower maximum altitudes appear to have suffered more as a result.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on December 03, 2019, 11:36:00 pm
Previous to 2009, the AAA points system was revised once or twice. Changes to perm eligibility altered how many AAA points could be accumulated in a season too. All of those changes meant that AAA totals before and after each of the changes couldn’t be directly compared.

I figure that alterations in how altitude is measured (e.g. contour counting vs. GPS records) similarly means that direct comparisons before and after those sorts of transitions aren’t really possible. It is common knowledge that different GPS devices or altered settings or using various phones to record GPS tracks can give quite different elevation gains round the same route.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: FifeingEejit on December 04, 2019, 01:31:23 am
Having played with the Nasa 90m dem that gives Googles laughable elevation data, and tried out a few comparisons where I know rwgps' data is duff compared to Strava's crowd sourced barometric data (south loch tay road} I've just realized I've never thought to put a route using it through the tool to see what it's data makes of it.

I'm curious as to the nature of the os data, is it automated contour counting, a 3d model of the osgb grid or something else?

I can quite comfortably get AAA qualifying routes in "flat" Fife, rarely above 100 and mostly high single digit to mid-teen gradients.
Any imbalance from a consistent quality model would suggest previous methods were imbalanced.

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Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 04, 2019, 02:55:41 pm
Surrey Secrets reinstated on the basis that its AAA have been honoured by the new system  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Ivan on December 04, 2019, 05:26:57 pm
Thanks for the clarifications, Martin. Surrey Secrets also comes in at 1870m for 1.75AAA as per Pete's variation.

Note that if you have any ride validated as a mandatory DIY and for whatever reason your track doesn't get awarded equivalent AAA then I am prepared to take the figures from the intended route as submitted if you flag this up to me.
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 04, 2019, 08:58:10 pm
Thanks Ivan; I have directed SS entries to Manotea (as regional DIY man) but hopefully any (unlikely) problems will come to you eventually  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Pete L on December 05, 2019, 08:04:35 pm
Thanks for the update Martin. And thanks for the info Ivan.

I will look forward to riding it again ............ although some perusing the OS map has now convinced me that with a few more route tweaks I may be able to squeeze an extra couple of hundred metres out of it.....  :)
Title: Re: Grimpeurs du Sud
Post by: Martin on December 05, 2019, 09:22:50 pm
Thanks for the update Martin. And thanks for the info Ivan.

I will look forward to riding it again ............ although some perusing the OS map has now convinced me that with a few more route tweaks I may be able to squeeze an extra couple of hundred metres out of it.....  :)

the route was devised by cover girl formerly OTP who made many variations / extensions around it including one which was worth 3AAA! I wanted to make it a calendar event with the Secrets being just that, secret controls, but it was a logistical nightmare. I rode it many times when I lived near there and never needed a triple chainset unlike Tour of the Hills

Be sure to look out for the Space Station en route! and the cheese straws in Peaslake village shop  :P just before the aptly named Walking Bottom