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General Category => Freewheeling => Racing => Topic started by: Frenchie on June 10, 2009, 09:03:41 am

Title: Bernard Kohl: Edifying
Post by: Frenchie on June 10, 2009, 09:03:41 am
How it is done:

La confession de Bernhard Kohl - Cyclisme - Dopage - L'EQUIPE.FR (http://www.lequipe.fr/Cyclisme/breves2009/20090608_232214_la-confession-de-bernhard-kohl.html)

Cyclisme : confessions d'un dopé - Sports - Le Monde.fr (http://www.lemonde.fr/sports/article/2009/06/09/cyclisme-confessions-d-un-dope_1204540_3242.html#ens_id=1199258)
Title: Re: Bernard Kohl: Edifying
Post by: Thor on June 10, 2009, 09:08:36 am
And for the linguistically disadvantaged (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/jun09/jun09news2&from=rss).
Title: Re: Bernard Kohl: Edifying
Post by: Hot Flatus on June 10, 2009, 09:39:01 am
Nothing new here..... never heard the rumours about the motorcycle despatch riders with refrigerated panniers employed by Discovery?
Title: Re: Bernard Kohl: Edifying
Post by: clarion on June 10, 2009, 07:29:08 pm
That Ben & Jerry's melts in the heat, you know... ;)
Title: Re: Bernard Kohl: Edifying
Post by: nuttycyclist on June 10, 2009, 11:35:47 pm
I'm probably being really thick here.

I thought ePO worked by increasing the red blood cell count so the body accepted more oxygen.

If you do a blood transfusion so your levels stay the same and you don't show up in the doping tests, doesn't that mean you've just taken all the "goodness" out of your body and replaced it with the "duff" blood you used to have?




I'm glad I just commute, audax sometimes, and ride for fun.   This doping to race really is a confusing subject.
Title: Re: Bernard Kohl: Edifying
Post by: Séamas M. on June 11, 2009, 12:31:00 am

I thought ePO worked by increasing the red blood cell count so the body accepted more oxygen.

If you do a blood transfusion so your levels stay the same

The level (proportion of red cells to blood volume) does stay the same after a transfusion but the total number of red cells is increased so a similar effect to EPO doping without siginificantly changing haematocrit.

I've had some blood taken this evening but I don't think the Blood Transfusion Service will let me have it back.  :D
Title: Re: Bernard Kohl: Edifying
Post by: Frenchie on June 11, 2009, 10:32:26 am
And for the linguistically disadvantaged (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news.php?id=news/2009/jun09/jun09news2&from=rss).

... challenged.  ;)