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Title: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: rogerzilla on July 14, 2010, 05:35:41 pm
Just wondering...
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: toekneep on July 14, 2010, 05:38:31 pm
How about: Yes, they're all on drugs.  ;D
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Oaky on July 14, 2010, 05:56:14 pm
I like the idea that chief mentioned to me one day.  There should be two classes within athletic competitions: "turbocharged" and "normally aspirated".  ;D ;)
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Noodley on July 14, 2010, 06:29:22 pm
well that didn't last long before turning to comments about drugs.... :facepalm:

a new record?
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: toekneep on July 14, 2010, 06:37:28 pm
well that didn't last long before turning to comments about drugs.... :facepalm:

a new record?
Well strictly speaking it started out with a comment about drugs since that was one of the options.  ;)
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Aidan on July 14, 2010, 06:38:54 pm
I follow avidly and enjoy it. I like the scenery .
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: IanDG on July 14, 2010, 06:55:33 pm
Avidly (and cynically)  ;)
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: GruB on July 14, 2010, 07:47:05 pm
Yep, totally loving it.  I don't think they are all on drugs this year either.  Look at Samuel Sanchez yesterday and Cadel and even Lance.  All knackered.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: perpetual dan on July 14, 2010, 07:52:58 pm
I ticked mildly as I've really enjoyed the ones I've watched but having been away I'm still several days behind and that doesn't really qualify for avid.  :-[
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Adam on July 14, 2010, 08:33:45 pm
I follow avidly and enjoy it. I like the scenery .

Definitely +1.

The TdF rules (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=33266) are stuck on the fridge, and they are being obeyed.   :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: oncemore on July 14, 2010, 09:22:48 pm
When possible I watch about the last hour each day quite "avidly" - so I ticked the first box!
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: kevinp on July 14, 2010, 10:00:23 pm
I am also watching it .. I have no work so I'm even getting paid to watch it :)

The only thing I don't understand is why we can't watch all of it, from the start. I know that it would be a few hours of tv but they wouldn't start a football match in the last quarter would they.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Rhys W on July 14, 2010, 11:02:13 pm
I watched it all from km 0 yesterday, apart from about 20km when I had to pop out.

It gives a real idea of how a whole day in the saddle feels like, when you watch the entire stage from the sofa.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Jakob on July 14, 2010, 11:06:10 pm
Would watch it if I could, but the stages finishes about the time I get up and there's no way to watch it online at work and with the hours I work at the moment, that means I don't get to watch it. I try to keep up with the news, though.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: citoyen on July 14, 2010, 11:17:56 pm
Last Sunday, I was supposed to be doing jobs in the garden but I couldn't tear myself away from the screen until it was all over. Fortunately, by that time it was a bit cooler outside, so it worked out quite well. During the week, I watch the live ITV feed at my desk while pretending to work. Sometimes, it's so engrossing, I forget to pretend.

As noted elsewhere, I found certain elements of yesterday's stage a bit depressing, which has spoiled my enjoyment in some respects, but overall, I still love the spectacle of it. Even if it can't quite match this year's Giro for excitement - yeah, the cobbles stage was thrilling but it was trumped by the strade bianchi stage on the Giro.

I didn't watch it live today because I was too busy with actual work, but I'll definitely be tuning in tomorrow to see Cav take his third stage of this year's Tour.  :thumbsup:

d.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Torslanda on July 14, 2010, 11:32:44 pm
Not since Floyd suddenly performed a volte face and went 'Actually, Guys! Its OK! I was on drugs all the frikkin' time!'

FWIW I believe in Lance and Johann but the Landis thing is just the one that tips it over the edge.

Bolleaux to 'em, I say. I get no pleasure from watching fit young men putting themselves through hell and for what? To die in obscurity some time in their mid 40s cos their hearts can't pump Lyles Golden Syrup?

I used to love watching cycle racing, now it just leaves a bad taste . . .

luv'n'stuff

J
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: TheLurker on July 15, 2010, 08:24:42 am
Yeah, but without my usual enthusiasm.  Pretty much limited to reading the Grauniad reports and checking the standings at the end of each day.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: andygates on July 15, 2010, 09:51:47 am
Hell yes.  Cav is great soap opera.  The leader tussle is practically a bromance.  Crashes!  Carbon!  Alps!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: JT on July 15, 2010, 10:16:19 am
Absolutely.

Mrs JT and I were in Brussels for Stage 1 and then followed it through Belgium and France right up until after the start of Stage 6 in Montargis.*

Now that we're back home we Sky+ Eurosport HD's live coverage and the ITV highlights programme (for the interviews and VT segments) and do not peek at the results during the afternoon.

*We were lucky on this trip because while we were in Brussels, Dave Brailsford remembered us from the track worlds in Copenhagen earlier in the year. He had a word with press officer, Fran Millar (David Millar's sister), who looked after us very well.

A couple of my best photos from Stage 3:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4140/4778685346_cc569e4d48.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tompy/4778685346/)

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4080/4778683032_ece2b836ef.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tompy/4778683032/)

My Tour de France 2020 photo set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/tompy/sets/72157624459811992/)
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: pcolbeck on July 15, 2010, 10:27:41 am
Best first week for years. Usually I find the first few days a bit tedious. I did like last years prologue in Monaco though that was a good idea.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on July 15, 2010, 10:37:26 am
I like spotting branches of Lidl (handy to get a feel for this as the beer is very cheap and good quality) and interpreting the banners. Did anyone else get the significance of a flag with a  picture of Homer Simpson's religious neighbour on the cobbled stage?
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: citoyen on July 15, 2010, 10:40:33 am
Great pics, JT!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: citoyen on July 15, 2010, 10:45:39 am
JT's pic of Cancellara followed by Schleck followed by Evans followed by Hushovd followed by (can't see but presumably) Thomas illustrates one of the things that's great about the Tour de France (and bike racing in general) - in what other sport can you get up so close to see the world's top pros in action?

d.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Mr Larrington on July 15, 2010, 10:52:42 am
JT's pic of Cancellara followed by Schleck followed by Evans followed by Hushovd followed by (can't see but presumably) Thomas illustrates one of the things that's great about the Tour de France (and bike racing in general) - in what other sport can you get up so close to see the world's top pros in action?

Rallying?
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: JT on July 15, 2010, 10:56:33 am
Great pics, JT!  :thumbsup:

 :-[ Thanks.

JT's pic of Cancellara followed by Schleck followed by Evans followed by Hushovd followed by (can't see but presumably) Thomas illustrates one of the things that's great about the Tour de France (and bike racing in general) - in what other sport can you get up so close to see the world's top pros in action?

d.


Yes it's Thomas after Evans.

Spot on about how close you can get and it's even better on the big mountains because they are that much slower.

To take the above photos I was crouched down so even closer to the riders if you like. This chasing group (with Hesjedal in front of them) really came thundering through and with the noise and dust being generated by the fans, riders, motos and cars - it was incredible. Really, tremendously exciting to be in amongst the action.

Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: JT on July 15, 2010, 10:58:50 am
JT's pic of Cancellara followed by Schleck followed by Evans followed by Hushovd followed by (can't see but presumably) Thomas illustrates one of the things that's great about the Tour de France (and bike racing in general) - in what other sport can you get up so close to see the world's top pros in action?

Rallying?

Yeah you can get close but the drivers are in a car with a helmet on.

At bike races you can see in the riders faces and eyes what they're feeling.

Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: citoyen on July 15, 2010, 11:00:08 am
Rallying?

Sometimes the racers get a little too close (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpX3Fp0h4fA) to the crowd in rallying.  :-\

d.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Rhys W on July 15, 2010, 11:12:13 am
Did anyone else get the significance of a flag with a  picture of Homer Simpson's religious neighbour on the cobbled stage?

I saw this, sniggered, then forgot about it until now! I assumed it was a joke, seeing as Flandrians are renowned both for their performance in, and vociferous support for, the Spring Classics.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Mr Larrington on July 15, 2010, 11:13:35 am
Sometimes the racers get a little too close (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpX3Fp0h4fA) to the crowd in rallying.  :-\

I thought that was going to be the Joachim Santos crash in Portugal in 1986 and am rather glad it wasn't...
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on July 15, 2010, 12:19:05 pm
Did anyone else get the significance of a flag with a  picture of Homer Simpson's religious neighbour on the cobbled stage?

I saw this, sniggered, then forgot about it until now! I assumed it was a joke, seeing as Flandrians are renowned both for their performance in, and vociferous support for, the Spring Classics.

Indeedy doody! It was an alternative to the ubiquitous black lion on a yellow background. Much like the way pubs are called the 'Seven Stars' where 'The Plough' is too common.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: mattc on July 15, 2010, 12:28:15 pm
Did anyone else get the significance of a flag with a  picture of Homer Simpson's religious neighbour on the cobbled stage?

I saw this, sniggered, then forgot about it until now! I assumed it was a joke, seeing as Flandrians are renowned both for their performance in, and vociferous support for, the Spring Classics.

Brilliant! I saw Ligget's face on a pole, but not Flanders - gawd bless the fans.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: citoyen on July 15, 2010, 12:33:53 pm
I thought that was going to be the Joachim Santos crash in Portugal in 1986 and am rather glad it wasn't...

Just the first one I found on Youtube - there are plenty to choose from.

I looked up the Joachim Santos crash. Nasty.  :(

I admit I do kind of get the appeal of rallying but things like that are enough to put me off wanting to go and watch it live.

d.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Dinamo on July 15, 2010, 02:23:31 pm
Yesterdays scenery was some of the best I've seen so far this year  ;D
Surely the French Tourist Board only have to show re-runs of the tour stages to attract people to France.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on July 15, 2010, 02:54:34 pm
Yesterdays scenery was some of the best I've seen so far this year  ;D
Surely the French Tourist Board only have to show re-runs of the tour stages to attract people to France.

The best views were of the Massif de Devoluy and from here.
Google Maps (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en-GB&geocode=&q=Col+de+Noyer&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=13.209342,31.992188&ie=UTF8&ll=44.776961,5.904121&spn=0,0.124969&t=h&z=13&layer=c&cbll=44.775011,5.900002&cbp=12,0,,0,5&photoid=po-18923341)
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on July 15, 2010, 03:24:43 pm
I'd like the poll option of "no, it's not on tv, and barely reported at all, where I am." At least, it probably is on one of FiL's 400+ satellite channels but I have not found which one  and when. But I am hoping to watch the Tour of Poland in the first week of August!
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Dinamo on July 15, 2010, 03:40:43 pm
I'd like the poll option of "no, it's not on tv, and barely reported at all, where I am." At least, it probably is on one of FiL's 400+ satellite channels but I have not found which one  and when. But I am hoping to watch the Tour of Poland in the first week of August!

If you have a good internet server you may be able to follow it here

http://www.cyclingfans.com/ (http://www.cyclingfans.com/)

They show all stages LIVE via various links, also show other cycling events !
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on July 15, 2010, 03:52:31 pm
Thanks for that. Unfortunately something has gone AWOL in my laptop and we have no sound...  :(
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: pcolbeck on July 15, 2010, 05:18:24 pm
Watch out there is a nasty little root kit virus that enters via flash videos that buggers your sound up (amongst other things). It keeps turning it down without it looking like its turned down. Try muting then un-muting it a few times or resetting the mixer levels. It's called the Black Internet virus for some reason.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on July 15, 2010, 06:58:26 pm
Thanks, but I think what has actually happened is that I've accidentally deleted the audio software.  :-[  :(
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: pcolbeck on July 15, 2010, 07:02:34 pm
Thanks, but I think what has actually happened is that I've accidentally deleted the audio software.  :-[  :(

Oops :)
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: eck on July 17, 2010, 03:26:59 pm
Tim Wainwright posted this link on the AUK list* to some superb photos:  :thumbsup:
http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/07/2010_tour_de_france_-_part_i.html (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2010/07/2010_tour_de_france_-_part_i.html)

I hope he doesn't mind me posting it here.

*See, it does have its uses.  ;)
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: toekneep on July 17, 2010, 05:00:46 pm
Some stunning shots there. Thanks Eck and Tim.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Giropaul on July 17, 2010, 05:18:54 pm
I'm even more convinced that Cavendish is working pro-Pettachi and anti-Hushovd - no other real reason to go for the sprint or to ride it how he did.

(PS- I'm totally in favour of this move; gain friends and show Hushovd who's boss after last year's protest)
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: andygates on July 17, 2010, 07:01:25 pm
Great pics! It's a gory one this year..!
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: citoyen on July 17, 2010, 07:07:22 pm
I thought Cav was just making a point about his supposed over-reliance on Renshaw. That was an awesome display of power. The stage result was of secondary importance.

Hushovd was miles behind Petacchi anyway.

d.

Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: GruB on July 17, 2010, 07:58:46 pm
Cav said that 'Vino's ride was incredible.  The power he took off with on the climb was incredible"
I hope not too incredible??????  :facepalm:

Cav said he also misses Renshaw in the bedroom and then smiled and laughed "That doesn't sound right, does it?"  All the reporters laughed too.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: mattc on July 18, 2010, 07:28:08 am
Errr .... I appreciate your comments have all been carefully phrased, but surely we can discuss actual race events in the other thread?!? TdF 2010 - Comments and possible spoilers (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=35249.0)

[I've already had yesterday's stage ruined by a tweet - so that's something else I have to turn off for 4 hours every night!]

Oh well, it was a more interesting stage than I expected - roll on the big one this 'avo.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: citoyen on July 18, 2010, 10:08:21 am
Sorry, I was distracted by the previous post and forgot which thread I was posting in... Will try not to do it again.

d.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: mattc on July 18, 2010, 10:17:56 am
 :-*
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: mattc on July 18, 2010, 11:18:47 am
Cav said he also misses Renshaw in the bedroom and then smiled and laughed "That doesn't sound right, does it?"  All the reporters laughed too.
Best line of the tour - I hope they don't gag Cav any further :)
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: GruB on July 18, 2010, 01:32:54 pm
Sorry, I was distracted by the previous post and forgot which thread I was posting in... Will try not to do it again.

d.

Yep, me too.  Point taken.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Oaky on July 18, 2010, 07:53:02 pm
TBH, if I was, e.g., waiting to watch my recorded TdF stage and wished to stay "unspoiled", I'd probably avoid this thread (and quite possibly the whole "racing" sub-board anyway).  I'd probably even think to avoid the cycling section or the BBC website too, without it saying "(possible spoilers)" on the link.   ;) :P

Or do we need to descend to the level of, e.g.  Cadbury's Whole Nut chocolate bars declaiming "Contains nuts" on threads in here?  (Actually it was funnier for a while when Whole Nut bars used to say "may contain traces of nuts" on the back).  ???
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: GruB on July 18, 2010, 07:56:11 pm
I do that, avoid this thread I mean until after I have watched the highlights.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: mattc on July 18, 2010, 10:22:14 pm
TBH, if I was, e.g., waiting to watch my recorded TdF stage and wished to stay "unspoiled", I'd probably avoid this thread (and quite possibly the whole "racing" sub-board anyway).  I'd probably even think to avoid the cycling section or the BBC website too, without it saying "(possible spoilers)" on the link.   ;) :P

It may be honest, but is this comment helpful? If so, to whom?

And who said anything about recorded stages? Most people [i would hazard to guess, with only common sense but no stats to back me up] will be watching the 7pm Highlights. I've watched a lot of stages live, but that won't apply to the average 9-5er, will it?

There is nothing wrong with plain old-fashioned manners (even on t'Interweb), as several replies have demonstrated  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Oaky on July 18, 2010, 11:50:05 pm

...
It may be honest, but is this comment helpful? If so, to whom?
To anyone who doesn't want to spoil their (recorded OR highlight) experience, but would run in and read random threads about the TdF anyway?  (Such as yourself apparently).
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And who said anything about recorded stages? Most people [i would hazard to guess, with only common sense but no stats to back me up] will be watching the 7pm Highlights. I
err... that's "splitting hairs" isn't it.  recorded stage / later highlights -- the argument isn't actually affected in the slightest by that particularly insignificant nuance.
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There is nothing wrong with plain old-fashioned manners (even on t'Interweb), as several replies have demonstrated  :thumbsup:
Nothing wrong with plain old fashioned common-sense either!  A thread that is titled "Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?" is something I personally would have avoided if I wanted to be surprised by my recording (or, the highlights program).
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: mattc on July 19, 2010, 10:14:04 am
So you saw that someone had foolishly allowed their enjoyment to be ruined, so you posted to say how much cleverer* you think you are.

Your post was unhelpful, because clearly the problem had already been highlighted by my post.

As I said, some have shown good manners, rather than gloating. It seems like "common sense" to avoid ruining the pleasures of others through some very simple measures, that have been discussed time and time again.

[*Don't worry, I watched the prog before reading the spoilers - check the timestamps .]
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: Oaky on July 19, 2010, 11:56:29 am
So you saw that someone had foolishly allowed their enjoyment to be ruined, so you posted to say how much cleverer* you think you are.

Sorry you took it that way.  It wasn't my intention to either gloat or claim cleverness, merely to point out that there are some places one might expect some discussion of e.g. the TdF and that not all of them would necessarily have spoiler tags or "spoiler" in the subject line etc.

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As I said, some have shown good manners, rather than gloating. It seems like "common sense" to avoid ruining the pleasures of others through some very simple measures, that have been discussed time and time again.

Sure, it's better if discussion which might contain spoilers should go in threads marked as such or use spoiler tags or whatever.  I just didn't think it beyond the bounds of possibility that a thread titled "Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?" might include some discussion of same.

I certainly wouldn't have been annoyed (except with myself) if I'd read this thread and caught a spoiler while trying to avoid the result before watching my recording that evening.

Apologies if you think I was gloating or am bad mannered.  (In the past, if anything, I've erred on the side of over-use of "spoiler tags", and had it, quite rightly, pointed out to me on one occasion that there are certain places where one might expect spoilers  :-\).

Ho hum.  I'd better shut up on the matter before I commit some other faux-pas.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: lemonjiffy on July 19, 2010, 01:31:10 pm
love it when some numpty cmplains about he lack of spoiler,,, happens every year on every cycling related forum ;D ;D ;D

think they'd learn  ::-)
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: mattc on July 19, 2010, 01:46:52 pm
So you saw that someone had foolishly allowed their enjoyment to be ruined, so you posted to say how much cleverer* you think you are.

Sorry you took it that way.  It wasn't my intention to either gloat or claim cleverness, merely to point out that there are some places one might expect some discussion of e.g. the TdF and that not all of them would necessarily have spoiler tags or "spoiler" in the subject line etc.

OK, fair enough - bygones!

It does seem to me that some people just throw manners out the window when they turn on their modem. YACF shines as a counter-example, gawd bless you all. There are a million sites for rude people that one can find to post on, if that's their thing.

Of course in this case, there is bound to be some muppet (who repeatedly fails to learn a very simple lesson) along trying to tell me what an idiot I am. (Presumably before running round their office like a sugar-fuelled teenager, shouting the latest news at 4pm. Assuming they are old enough to work, that is ...)
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: mattc on July 19, 2010, 11:11:39 pm
Has anyone spotted the red devil yet? Can Le Tour go on without him? :(
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: GruB on July 20, 2010, 05:51:01 am
Has anyone spotted the red devil yet? Can Le Tour go on without him? :(

He was there on Saturday or Sunday.  Jumping next to Armstrong.  Jumping very high so I reckon he must be on CERA.
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: clarion on July 20, 2010, 09:19:27 am
Has anyone spotted the red devil yet? Can Le Tour go on without him? :(

Yeah.  I saw him (http://www.yehudamoon.com/index.php?date=2010-07-19) ;D
Title: Re: Are you watching/following the Tour de France this year?
Post by: mattc on July 20, 2010, 09:58:23 am
He was there on Saturday or Sunday.  Jumping next to Armstrong.  Jumping very high so I reckon he must be on CERA.

I'm not sure which is worse:
- not seeing the devil, or
- finding out he is cheating.

:(