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General Category => Freewheeling => Racing => Topic started by: Charlotte on October 18, 2010, 10:58:34 am

Title: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Charlotte on October 18, 2010, 10:58:34 am
Penny Newsflash!

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Veteran Cycle Club members and their friends are invited to the Redbridge Cycling Centre (a.k.a. Hog Hill Circuit), Forest Road, Hainault, Ilford, IG6 3HP, for an afternoon of friendly racing on pre-1975 machines.

In case you have seen the place and think I must be joking, please note that we're only using the south (flat) circuit!

Those who attended the Eastway events a few years back will know the emphasis is on fun and letting off steam rather than serious competition. The programme for the day will hopefully include a time-trial handicap (handicap based on combined age of machine and rider; bring your oldest bike for greatest advantage!), races for hub-geared, rod-braked and pre-1940s machines, and a round of the National Solid-Tyred Championship. Children's and youths' races will be included, depending on the attendance.

There will be a charge of £3 per entrant for the hire of the track, plus £2 per attendant for one-day The League International (TLI) membership for insurance purposes.

For directions see Redbridge Cycling Centre: http://www.vision-rcl.org.uk/redbridge_cycle_centre.html, for any other details, please contact Patrick Trench on 020-8529 1263 or patrick_trench@hotmail.com.

Kat and I will be racing on vintage machines, loaned to us for the day by a VCC member.

Come along and support us!  This is going to be Very Serious Racing  :D
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: clarion on October 18, 2010, 11:01:27 am
Butterfly should bring her Rudge...

EDIT: :facepalm: d'Oh!  I just looked at the date.  Not possible :(

Have a great ride, Aunty C! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on October 18, 2010, 11:03:34 am
I was thinking of bringing my 1952 Claud Butler.
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: токамак on October 18, 2010, 11:14:16 am
I went to a VCC event like this a couple of years ago, where they raced some Ordinaries round Herne Hill Velodrome at break neck speed! Quite an impressive sight. If I can get a few hours free I'll try and get along.
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Charlotte on October 18, 2010, 11:19:00 am
That would be brilliant, Erron!

A bit more detail - we're racing for a cup first endowed in 1910 after a collection was taken up amongst Penny enthusiasts who realised that the day of the high bicycle was coming to an end.  This year will be the 100th anniversary of that first race and for a one mile sprint (with a rolling start) it's going to be hotly contested.

Kat and I are on pre-1910 machines, a Rudge and a Singer, 53" and 52".

It's going to be awesome  8)
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: clarion on October 18, 2010, 11:23:49 am
Think this is the meet that we & Zipperhead & a few others went to at Brooklands.  He got some great photos then.  I got some photos too.

The racing was good but reasonably lighthearted.

That day there was also a Sinclair C5 race, and rides up the Test Hill for Choppers & C5s, but not pennies :(
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Mr Larrington on October 18, 2010, 01:05:29 pm
If I manage to get up in time...
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: mike on October 18, 2010, 01:15:21 pm
that's not a million miles from here... I might see you there!
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Kim on October 18, 2010, 01:16:43 pm
While I'd love to see this, and do plan to be passing through That London on Saturday after resolving some Unstarted Business with Whitstable, I have a prior engagement in middle earth with CrinklyLion and some CAKE.

Good luck!
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: rt on October 19, 2010, 01:57:52 pm
would love to take part but I am still trying to fix the Timberlake penny following the knutsford day massacre!
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: David Martin on October 20, 2010, 10:10:11 am
I presume they will not be using the entire Hog Hill circuit for the penny race, just the top loop. I can imagine it going to the last rider to fall off at the base of the descent otherwise.

..d
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Charlotte on October 20, 2010, 10:14:51 am
I bloody hope it's the small circuit.  At the very least, if it's not I shall stand a good chance of becoming this autumn's comedy YouTube sensation...

:-\
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: токамак on October 20, 2010, 11:07:40 am
Quote from: Redbridge Cycling Centre Event Calendar
Saturday 23rd - Historic Racing Club - South/lower circuit booked 12:30 - 16:30

My bold. So you won't have to honk a penny over the b*stard hill after all. Although I think you should try anyway. ;)

http://www.vision-rcl.org.uk/redbridgecalendar.html

[edit] there's some serious bends on this course - what are pennies like in corners?
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Wobbly John on October 20, 2010, 05:27:43 pm
there's some serious bends on this course - what are pennies like in corners?

They turn on a sixpence.  ;D
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: токамак on October 20, 2010, 05:33:12 pm
*Groan*, should have seen that one coming... ;)
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: clarion on October 22, 2010, 11:02:09 pm
So it's 1230 not 1630, then?
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Charlotte on October 22, 2010, 11:09:55 pm
Looks like it.  We're leaving Ealing at 10am and will be cycling over from Upminster, 'cos you can't take a bike on the Central line...
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Charlotte on October 23, 2010, 03:09:39 pm
Stop press: I ain'tn't dead.

An' I came third  :D
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: clarion on October 23, 2010, 06:29:57 pm
:thumbsup:

And a thunderingly good ride it was, too!  Kat did pretty well, too.  The winner shot off at a blistering pace from the start, nearly blew up on the last rise, but held on ahead of the second guy.  C was in a strong third from early on.

Zipperhead may have some good photos.  Mine are a bit underwhelming cause I didn't get close enough and wasn't thinking well.
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: mike on October 23, 2010, 10:31:45 pm
 :thumbsup:  excellent work!!

sorry not to have made it but it got a bit complicated...
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: andygates on October 24, 2010, 12:05:35 pm
Top nutters!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Goldcrank on October 24, 2010, 12:16:04 pm
Stop press: I ain'tn't dead.

An' I came third  :D

Congratulations! Your second podium finish on a nonstandard bicycle this year!

Any photos?
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: teethgrinder on October 24, 2010, 01:05:23 pm
Good stuff! :D :thumbsup:

Maybe you should get onto the RRA and see if there are any high wheeler place to place records you could break?
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Zipperhead on October 24, 2010, 03:54:05 pm
I'm still sorting out pictures (and work has stopped temporarily for parenting duties), but here's a few to whet your appetite until later...

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMRHm_sUsKI/AAAAAAAAMtk/d0R2aFxlZeU/s800/DSC_9573.JPG)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMRHqQlVKqI/AAAAAAAAMt0/znv1kU33KXg/s576/DSC_0157.JPG)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMRHrgpc60I/AAAAAAAAMt8/_eHVhsc0EAk/s576/DSC_9649.JPG)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMRHsTCzmTI/AAAAAAAAMuA/oesnlvj3oz0/s576/DSC_9753.JPG)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMRHs-wvJVI/AAAAAAAAMuE/hUZdfVtklRg/s576/DSC_9782.JPG)

Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: David Martin on October 24, 2010, 03:57:55 pm

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMRHqQlVKqI/AAAAAAAAMt0/znv1kU33KXg/s576/DSC_0157.JPG)


Absolutely Barking!

"No, Upminster. Thats eight stops beyond Barking.."

Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: TimO on October 24, 2010, 04:31:13 pm
Yikes, Ordinary racing in the wet. :o
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Zipperhead on October 24, 2010, 10:27:21 pm
A few more

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMSgornCU8I/AAAAAAAAMwA/xGkX1Jofrbs/s800/DSC_9922.JPG)
A rolling start for the penny race

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMSgqhufdzI/AAAAAAAAMwI/Qb44GhXxStc/s576/DSC_9926.JPG)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMSgtEEE-dI/AAAAAAAAMwU/jKeLLC4qSYw/s576/DSC_9934.JPG)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMSgt_-ZiDI/AAAAAAAAMwY/46aCdjGIMO4/s576/DSC_9938.JPG)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMSgxBJp9BI/AAAAAAAAMwo/e0xsYgst8YY/s576/DSC_9953.JPG)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMSgysWDSMI/AAAAAAAAMws/v8CKaNsVXRs/s576/DSC_0097.JPG)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMSg2pNgtuI/AAAAAAAAMw4/8o6QL_DjhuY/s576/DSC_0122.JPG)

The rest are here (http://picasaweb.google.com/grahamglen0/HogHill23Oct2010?feat=directlink)
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Charlotte on October 24, 2010, 10:35:06 pm
What utterly fabulous pictures - thank you so much for coming and taking them  :)
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: TimO on October 24, 2010, 10:38:35 pm
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMShWEcjILI/AAAAAAAAMyw/_y9D92viAP8/s320/DSC_9976.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/grahamglen0/HogHill23Oct2010?feat=directlink#5531723642840490162)

That's an interesting chain, do you know why it's done like that?
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: cyclone on October 24, 2010, 10:40:11 pm
You are an inspiration Aunty C! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Zipperhead on October 24, 2010, 10:55:41 pm
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMShWEcjILI/AAAAAAAAMyw/_y9D92viAP8/s320/DSC_9976.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/grahamglen0/HogHill23Oct2010?feat=directlink#5531723642840490162)

That's an interesting chain, do you know why it's done like that?

No, I don't know if Mr. Hilldodger does. It was on a Rover. It looked like the chainwheel might have been a "normal" one, but with every other tooth filed off to make it mesh with the chain.
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: jellied on October 25, 2010, 10:23:08 am
Amazing photographs. Although still not convinced to buy one. yet.

I'm sure Mr Ferris would love a copy [make sure you print it in black & white or sepia].
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: tatanab on October 25, 2010, 10:47:41 am
No, I don't know if Mr. Hilldodger does. It was on a Rover. It looked like the chainwheel might have been a "normal" one, but with every other tooth filed off to make it mesh with the chain.
Inch pitch Dave's Vintage Bicycles article-chain.htm (http://www.nostalgic.net/article-chain.htm)
Title: Re: 23/10/10 Vintage Penny Farthing racing 4:30pm - Hog Hill
Post by: Hilldodger on October 28, 2010, 10:43:20 am
(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_3a8mQ6kkehU/TMShWEcjILI/AAAAAAAAMyw/_y9D92viAP8/s320/DSC_9976.JPG) (http://picasaweb.google.com/grahamglen0/HogHill23Oct2010?feat=directlink#5531723642840490162)

That's an interesting chain, do you know why it's done like that?

Skip-link chain is an obsolete roller chain for bicycles in which side plates are alternately short and long, and so rollers are alternately close together and far apart.

In bicycle chains, skip-link chain has the same one-inch spacing as both the earlier block chain. Due to the asymmetry, the rollers fit over long teeth used with earlier block chain, but due to the use of rollers, efficiency is better than block chain. Skip-link chain is typically arranged with the long plates also the wide-spaced outer plates, which mimics the visual effect of block chain. Since sprocket teeth run on rollers, they cannot be usefully wider than the width of the narrow-spaced links, so the tooth can be no wider than with a symmetrical chain. Thus, skip-link chain spreads wear over half the number of teeth and has worse sprocket durability than a symmetrical roller chain. Chain wear is dominated by wear between pins and bushings, and this is the same as a modern roller chain.