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Title: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Tewdric on December 19, 2010, 10:06:19 am
In a similar manner to Guess the Place, whoever solves the clue correctly sets the next one.

I'll start.

Dis duck or dat? (5)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 19, 2010, 10:47:59 am
Eider.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Tewdric on December 19, 2010, 10:50:21 am
Of course!   :)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 19, 2010, 10:54:18 am
Take the oil? I, a h-holy man? (3, 9, 8).
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: finch on December 19, 2010, 10:57:34 am
H _ _ _ _ _ _ O (5)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Tewdric on December 19, 2010, 11:02:33 am
H _ _ _ _ _ _ O (5)

Water, but you're supposed to solve one first!  :D :D
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 19, 2010, 11:09:02 am
I imagine Wow's is an anagram of the whole clue, but I'm stuck.

And, being stuck:

Try covering it first in Three-In-One (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 19, 2010, 11:10:01 am
I imagine Wow's is an anagram of the whole clue, but I'm stuck.

And, being stuck:

Try covering it first in Three-In-One (7)

You are right, and it's also rather dated. I have to admit to rank plagiarism as this was one of Bunthorne's from about 30 years ago. It so impressed me that I've never forgotten it.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on December 19, 2010, 12:02:39 pm
H _ _ _ _ _ _ O (5)

Water, but you're supposed to solve one first!  :D :D

Indeed  :P (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1072.msg41013#msg41013)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Tewdric on December 19, 2010, 12:48:51 pm
How did I miss that!  Great minds clearly  think alike.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 19, 2010, 05:52:47 pm
Take the oil? I, a h-holy man? (3,9,8)
I imagine Wow's is an anagram of the whole clue, but I'm stuck.
You are right, and it's also rather dated. I have to admit to rank plagiarism as this was one of Bunthorne's from about 30 years ago. It so impressed me that I've never forgotten it.

With that extra context, it's obviously THE AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI.

Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 19, 2010, 05:54:24 pm
Take the oil? I, a h-holy man? (3,9,8)
I imagine Wow's is an anagram of the whole clue, but I'm stuck.

You are right, and it's also rather dated. I have to admit to rank plagiarism as this was one of Bunthorne's from about 30 years ago. It so impressed me that I've never forgotten it.
With that extra context, it's obviously THE AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI.


Indeed.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 19, 2010, 05:59:03 pm
I imagine Wow's is an anagram of the whole clue, but I'm stuck.

And, being stuck:

Try covering it first in Three-In-One (7)

Trinity?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 19, 2010, 06:10:51 pm
Try covering it first in Three-In-One (7)

Trinity?

Yes. TRY covering INIT (IT, but, first IN).

Here's another. I'm finding the Ashes a good theme.

Twenty runs, but at the crease he doesn't push through with his cuts (6)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 19, 2010, 06:12:27 pm
Try covering it first in Three-In-One (7)

Trinity?

Yes. TRY covering INIT (IT, but, first IN).

Here's another. I'm finding the Ashes a good theme.

Twenty runs, but at the crease he doesn't push through with his cuts (6)

I'd have said SCORE but that's only got 5 letters...
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 19, 2010, 06:13:10 pm
So SCORER.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 19, 2010, 06:19:57 pm
Peripherally outmoded, Dorothy, Matthew and Brian write childish letters to Her Majesty (3, 6, 7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on December 19, 2010, 06:21:28 pm
Dot Matrix Printer

But I don't have one of my own to offer, I'm afraid :-[

Didn't think it through, did I? :-\
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 19, 2010, 06:21:49 pm
Dot Matrix Printer

Quite so!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Tewdric on December 19, 2010, 06:28:09 pm
OK here's another:

School for bar staff within a place of worship, we hear. (5-6)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Tewdric on December 20, 2010, 05:38:20 pm
Clue - These students are preparing to answer their calling..
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on December 20, 2010, 05:59:59 pm
Inner Temple
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on December 20, 2010, 06:00:49 pm
Three letters long.

Wolf.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Tewdric on December 20, 2010, 09:57:15 pm
Stumped.

Cry?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on December 20, 2010, 10:09:53 pm
First letter is 'e'.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 20, 2010, 10:10:57 pm
Eat.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on December 20, 2010, 10:13:16 pm
Nope
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Deano on December 20, 2010, 10:15:03 pm
Wolf in sheep's clothing. 

But I haven't a clue to set, so carry on.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Jaded on December 20, 2010, 10:15:12 pm
Is it Wolf (3) ?

I'm a bit confused by the Three Letters Long
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on December 20, 2010, 10:16:10 pm
Sorry, yes, in standard crossword stylee : -

Wolf (3)

And the extra info is that the first letter is 'e'.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 20, 2010, 10:17:41 pm
Sorry, yes, in standard crossword stylee : -

Wolf (3)

And the extra info is that the first letter is 'e'.

Ebb.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on December 20, 2010, 10:20:20 pm
Spot on.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 20, 2010, 10:22:38 pm
He plays around under waterfalls (4, 6)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 20, 2010, 11:09:29 pm
Anyone still doing this?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Jaded on December 20, 2010, 11:13:03 pm
I tried, then got stuck into some emails, photos, a newsletter for the local football club and listening to some music inappropriate for a 50 year old.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on December 21, 2010, 07:15:34 am
He plays around under waterfalls (4, 6)

 ???  any letters !

Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on December 21, 2010, 12:29:57 pm
He plays around under waterfalls (4, 6)

Rain Dancer
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Snakehips on December 21, 2010, 12:32:10 pm
He plays around under waterfalls (4, 6)

Damp Golfer
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2010, 12:38:01 pm
There's an anagram in there.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 21, 2010, 02:21:41 pm
There's an anagram in there.

FATS WALLER, who certainly played, is an anagram of "waterfalls". [But I don't really buy "under" as an anagram indicator, while "around" is in the wrong place for one, isn't it? Am I barking up the wrong tree entirely? I'm not good on golfers.]

Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2010, 02:41:29 pm
There's an anagram in there.

FATS WALLER, who certainly played, is an anagram of "waterfalls". [But I don't really buy "under" as an anagram indicator, while "around" is in the wrong place for one, isn't it? Am I barking up the wrong tree entirely? I'm not good on golfers.]




Fats Waller it is.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 21, 2010, 02:48:23 pm

Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em tune sung in church (3,5)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2010, 02:54:03 pm

Some Mothers Do 'Ave 'Em tune sung in church (3,5)

Ave Maria
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2010, 03:02:57 pm
On the assumption that the above is correct:-

Two boys are followed by a youth leader in Essex. (10)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Basil on December 21, 2010, 03:15:19 pm
Got it.

Am I allowed to answer without then offering another clue?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 21, 2010, 03:15:59 pm
On the assumption that the above is correct:-
(it is)
Quote

Two boys are followed by a youth leader in Essex. (10)
Billericay
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on December 21, 2010, 03:23:53 pm
On the assumption that the above is correct:-
(it is)
Quote

Two boys are followed by a youth leader in Essex. (10)
Billericay

You're doing very well  ;)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 21, 2010, 03:47:45 pm
Wicket, duck, wicket, bye... cricket correspondent cut short, could be infinitely prolonged. (9)

Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2010, 03:49:48 pm
Wowbagger!  ;D
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: mike on December 21, 2010, 03:54:23 pm
how??
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on December 21, 2010, 03:55:57 pm
Oh I got that one straight away, unusually.  Got one for us, wow?  I'm enjoying this thread, even though I only see most of them retrospectively
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 21, 2010, 03:56:46 pm
It helps to know that Jonathan Agnew "Aggers" is the BBC's chief cricket correspondent.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2010, 04:03:56 pm
Hans' wife follows fish for forum favourite. (9)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Snakehips on December 21, 2010, 04:08:32 pm
Hans' wife follows fish for forum favourite. (9)

Charlotte
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 21, 2010, 04:10:37 pm
(Haha! Does googling for people who follow fish count as cheating?)

The trumpet sounds (two notes), right, and no one shall be raised. (7)

Though Snakehips beat me to it while I was finalising my clue. Your go, Snaky.

ETA a little more of a clue, since "sounds" is obscure. But please to admire the Handel reference. So smug here.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2010, 04:11:57 pm
Isn't it Snakehips' turn?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Snakehips on December 21, 2010, 04:15:34 pm
Frank had slightly more than Edith        (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on December 21, 2010, 07:47:58 pm
Regrets, of course. Not fond of that type of clue though, tbh. It's more general knowledge quiz than wordplay.

Here's one that I can't claim authorship of but I think it's brilliant - and is a proper cryptic crossword clue:

Eggs on toast. (6)

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 21, 2010, 07:54:31 pm
Regrets, of course. Not fond of that type of clue though, tbh. It's more general knowledge quiz than wordplay.

Here's one that I can't claim authorship of but I think it's brilliant - and is a proper cryptic crossword clue:

Eggs on toast. (6)

d.

Cheers
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 21, 2010, 07:55:14 pm
And now I can pearoast:



The trumpet sounds (two notes), right, and no one shall be raised. (7)


Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on December 21, 2010, 08:04:07 pm
Clarion, I think.

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on December 21, 2010, 08:05:08 pm
If it's right, I'll set another shortly.

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 21, 2010, 08:06:46 pm
Clarion, I think.

d.
Yes. And isn't it pleasing?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on December 21, 2010, 09:59:36 pm
Very good, HTFB. :thumbsup:

Outfit designers created incorporating large bust and white headpiece. (7,5)

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Snakehips on December 22, 2010, 08:50:49 am
wedding dress
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 22, 2010, 08:53:05 am
wedding dress

I can see the large bust (dd) but I don't know how you get the rest of that.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on December 22, 2010, 09:02:22 am
Anagram of designers + W (white).

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 22, 2010, 09:06:20 am
Anagram of designers + W (white).

d.

That's really good. It didn't occur to me that designers was the anagram.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Snakehips on December 22, 2010, 09:23:50 am
Well it took me a while to work out why wolf was ebb earlier even after you had answered it earlier !

How about

European King a small tome's recalled (6)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on December 22, 2010, 10:34:33 am
Well it took me a while to work out why wolf was ebb earlier even after you had answered it earlier !

OK, I'll admit it... I still haven't worked it out. But please don't tell me because I'm determined to get it myself without help!

Who's doing/done the Araucaria Christmas special from last Saturday's Guardian? After a slow start, I'm making some progress but still a long way from completion. One question for anyone who's got further than me: when he says "modern" novels, presumably he means "anything from Don Quixote onwards", right? I got the Dickens novel pretty quickly, but that's a rather narrower range to choose from.

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on December 22, 2010, 10:50:00 am
European King a small tome's recalled (6)

Very nice clue, but I'll let someone else give the answer as I've just had two turns in quick succession...  :smug:

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on December 30, 2010, 10:34:17 pm
Who's doing/done the Araucaria Christmas special from last Saturday's Guardian? After a slow start, I'm making some progress but still a long way from completion. One question for anyone who's got further than me: when he says "modern" novels, presumably he means "anything from Don Quixote onwards", right? I got the Dickens novel pretty quickly, but that's a rather narrower range to choose from.

Started on Christmas Day and finished today  ::-)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on February 01, 2011, 07:56:09 am
European King a small tome's recalled (6)

 ???  Please, somebody put me out of my misery !

Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on February 01, 2011, 08:06:04 am
SLOVAK

K = king
A = a
Vol = small tome (volume)

"recalled" ie reversed

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on February 01, 2011, 08:07:34 am
Sorry, that should be:

Vol = tome (volume)
S = small

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on February 01, 2011, 08:10:33 am
Nope, wrong again... the S would be in the wrong place... d'oh!

It's "Vol's" - the apostrophe s is to be read literally, not as a contraction.

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on February 14, 2011, 04:12:10 pm
For fans of the Cryptic Crossword, the 20p 'i' newspaper from today includes a daily cryptic crossword  :thumbsup:

A clue from todays paper :

Lithe acts performed in the name of sport (9)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on February 14, 2011, 04:17:47 pm
Athletics
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on March 20, 2011, 07:35:21 pm
Can anyone help me out I'm stuck on a few clues from Friday's i crossword, one being ........
.......Men scorn hostels specially built for unseen tourist attraction (4,4,7) ?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on March 20, 2011, 07:44:37 pm
Loch Ness Monster?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on March 20, 2011, 08:06:13 pm
Loch Ness Monster?

Thanks
How about.....
........I weary myself, keeping up with retired people (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on March 20, 2011, 08:21:03 pm

How about.....
........I weary myself, keeping up with retired people (7)

Sounds like my audax experiences.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Tewdric on March 22, 2011, 08:23:14 am

How about.....
........I weary myself, keeping up with retired people (7)

Sounds like my audax experiences.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on July 13, 2011, 09:43:28 am
Sublime effort from Puck in today's Guardian:

"Off/on, hard/soft etc. (3,2,5)"

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on July 13, 2011, 10:19:06 pm
We got that one  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 19, 2011, 07:59:40 am
In the 'i' paper today all the across clues are Cheese related

e.g. cheese produced by, note, Greek character (4)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Snakehips on July 19, 2011, 08:08:40 am
feta
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 19, 2011, 10:43:16 am
Here's another

Some cheese a plebeian is holding back ? (3,5)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on July 19, 2011, 11:46:36 am
Bel Paese.

Here's one I recall from many years ago: "Cheese that's made backwards. (4)"

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Mr Larrington on July 19, 2011, 11:53:34 am
Edam.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 19, 2011, 12:40:19 pm
What's put in cheese that makes dog start to drool (4)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Tim on July 19, 2011, 01:08:38 pm
(click to show/hide)

Not on a cheese theme, but it amused me at lunch-time:

Skinny, toothless what's-his-name (9)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on July 19, 2011, 09:01:34 pm
What's put in cheese that makes dog start to drool (4)

curd
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on July 19, 2011, 10:56:16 pm
(click to show/hide)

Not on a cheese theme, but it amused me at lunch-time:

Skinny, toothless what's-his-name (9)

Thingummy
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on July 20, 2011, 12:17:41 am
For fans of the Cryptic Crossword, the 20p 'i' newspaper from today includes a daily cryptic crossword  :thumbsup:

A clue from todays paper :

Lithe acts performed in the name of sport (9)

There was one very similar to that in the Guardian the other day.

Here's another of mine that I was quite pleased with:

They order "Horses for courses!" (8)

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 21, 2011, 08:34:19 am
Café where the OAPs gather (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Mobbsy on July 21, 2011, 08:45:19 am
I am being redundant on the 30th September  :-\....









.... I start a new (better) job on the 1st October.  ;D
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on July 21, 2011, 10:03:01 am
Café where the OAPs gather (7)

Teashop
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on July 21, 2011, 10:47:30 am
For fans of the Cryptic Crossword, the 20p 'i' newspaper from today includes a daily cryptic crossword  :thumbsup:

A clue from todays paper :

Lithe acts performed in the name of sport (9)

There was one very similar to that in the Guardian the other day.

Here's another of mine that I was quite pleased with:

They order "Horses for courses!" (8)

d.

Tipsters?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on July 21, 2011, 12:37:39 pm
Nope.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 21, 2011, 01:09:12 pm
Hors d'oeuvres

EDIT : starters
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on July 21, 2011, 01:48:05 pm
starters

Yep!

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 22, 2011, 08:40:43 am
Not the quickest opening for securing a flat ? (4,8)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on July 23, 2011, 12:49:21 pm
Slow puncture
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 24, 2011, 01:31:05 pm
Slow puncture

Yep
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 26, 2011, 01:10:27 am
Vegetable, say, left between doctor and worker (8)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on July 26, 2011, 01:17:22 am
Vegetable, say, left between doctor and worker (8)

Eggplant
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 26, 2011, 01:20:52 am
Vegetable, say, left between doctor and worker (8)

Eggplant

Yes, that was quick !
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on August 01, 2011, 02:34:42 pm
Here's one that occurred to me yesterday:

Resort to deep salination when tides change (9)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on August 17, 2011, 01:37:51 am
Hydrogen, aluminium, oxygen, germanium, nitrogen ? None of these ! (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Greenbank on August 17, 2011, 08:05:44 am
Hydrogen, aluminium, oxygen, germanium, nitrogen ? None of these ! (7)

Halogen.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on August 17, 2011, 08:00:30 pm
Hydrogen, aluminium, oxygen, germanium, nitrogen ? None of these ! (7)

Halogen.
      :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on August 17, 2011, 08:05:50 pm
Here's one that occurred to me yesterday:

Resort to deep salination when tides change (9)

No one hazard a guess at mine? :(
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on August 17, 2011, 10:44:40 pm
Here's one that occurred to me yesterday:

Resort to deep salination when tides change (9)

No one hazard a guess at mine? :(

Is it an anagram of 'when tides' ?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on August 17, 2011, 10:46:06 pm
No anagram in there
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: nicknack on August 17, 2011, 11:04:05 pm
Seasalter

Though I might question the 'resort' bit - unless preceded by 'last' perhaps.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on August 18, 2011, 01:30:36 pm
I might question the 'resort' bit - unless preceded by 'last' perhaps.

Harsh but fair.  ;D

Tbh, not sure I get the clue. Could you explain, please, Clarion?

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Mr Larrington on August 18, 2011, 03:55:47 pm
tides change = seas alter?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on August 18, 2011, 04:26:10 pm
tides change = seas alter?

 :facepalm:

Very good.

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on August 18, 2011, 04:58:01 pm
I'm not sure you should have "deep salination" (presumably that's SEA SALT; I don't see the "er" in that section of the wordplay) in there as well as the changing tides. The double false anagram lead is very neat, though.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on August 18, 2011, 10:37:27 pm
Seasalter

Though I might question the 'resort' bit - unless preceded by 'last' perhaps.
Fair comment :(
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on August 18, 2011, 10:40:57 pm
I'm not sure you should have "deep salination" (presumably that's SEA SALT; I don't see the "er" in that section of the wordplay) in there as well as the changing tides. The double false anagram lead is very neat, though.
Also fair. It seemed to work at first, but you're right
Title: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on August 24, 2011, 08:58:27 am
Gentleman's gentleman curtailed joke about First Lady. (6)
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Post by: Pingu on August 24, 2011, 10:10:01 am
Jeeves
Title: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on August 24, 2011, 08:24:49 pm
Pah, that was too easy!

d.
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Post by: HTFB on August 24, 2011, 08:46:41 pm
Gentleman's gentleman's gentleman, pursues (as gentleman lady), pursued by hindparts of joker. (7)
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Post by: Peter on August 24, 2011, 10:11:28 pm
Wooster
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on August 25, 2011, 11:37:54 am
Gentleman's gentleman's gentleman, pursues (as gentleman lady), pursued by hindparts of joker. (7)

 ;D
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on August 29, 2011, 01:52:10 am
Not strictly my turn, but try this, if you would:

Col taken away. Add one fag. (7)

And

Dry 'coon appears in south London (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on August 29, 2011, 02:11:30 am
Ok, while I still can't sleep:

Premier found Yttrium in Ozarks?  That's crazy. (7)

And:

Bear mixed up with above (5)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on August 29, 2011, 02:23:30 am
I can do you Croydon but I'm off to bed now!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on August 29, 2011, 02:43:45 am
Spot on, Peter. Good night.

BTW, the other clues are all much more playful.
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Post by: Peter on August 29, 2011, 10:12:48 am
Ok, Clarion, I'm up again, now, so you can have Sarkozy to be going on with!
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Post by: Peter on August 29, 2011, 10:17:19 am
Guess you could have Koala, (in Oz) or Putin - Russian (aka bear) premier, pu being mixed "up"?
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Post by: clarion on August 29, 2011, 12:10:56 pm
Sarkozy is correct (not often I'd say that!).

But you're looking too far afield for the bear...
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Post by: Peter on August 29, 2011, 01:41:04 pm
Brown, as in Bruni?
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Post by: Peter on August 29, 2011, 01:42:07 pm
No, no 5 letters, so it's bruin?
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Post by: clarion on August 29, 2011, 05:14:13 pm
You've got it star about face.  Bruin, yes, for the bear, but mixed up gives us Bruni, who, with a second meaning for 'mixed up', fits with Sarkozy.

The fourth clue should also give you a topical person.
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Post by: Peter on August 29, 2011, 05:34:11 pm
Gaddafi, then innit?
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Post by: clarion on August 29, 2011, 06:42:05 pm
Yeah.    Did you like that one? :)
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Post by: Peter on August 29, 2011, 07:30:13 pm
I liked them all - especially the ones with multiple choice! :)  I'll sort something out for the thread soon.  Cheers!
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Post by: Dinamo on August 29, 2011, 09:56:11 pm
Not my turn, but a couple of easy ones for tonight !!!


Be direct with regard to trendy project ? (5,4,3,3)

Top player securing University Cricket Club's win (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on August 29, 2011, 11:26:38 pm
Shoot from the hip (good one!)

I'll have athink about the other one!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on August 30, 2011, 12:25:08 am
Top player securing University Cricket Club's win (7)

SUCCEED
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Post by: Dinamo on August 30, 2011, 07:28:17 am
Top player securing University Cricket Club's win (7)

SUCCEED

Shoot from the hip (good one!)

Yes both correct  ;D
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Post by: Peter on August 30, 2011, 01:46:52 pm
French shout across US city on call for parishioner (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on September 05, 2011, 09:27:47 pm
French shout across US city on call for parishioner (7)

Clarion, I think may be you should have a go at this, since there are no other takers!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on September 06, 2011, 02:16:33 pm
French shout across US city on call for parishioner (7)

Clarion

I don't think the setter should be allowed to solve their own clue. ;)

d.
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Post by: citoyen on September 06, 2011, 02:17:51 pm
Here's one that came to me this morning:

"French leader goes to summer fete. (8)"

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on September 06, 2011, 02:43:38 pm
That's an odd clue in that F (french leader) and ete (summer - OK, with accents omitted) make up fete (again, accent omitted).
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Post by: citoyen on September 06, 2011, 02:46:28 pm
Good spot. I had it as "fair" originally, but I thought "fete" sounded better. Maybe I also noticed it subconsciously.

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on September 06, 2011, 02:48:24 pm
So presumably it's festival - for the same reason.
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Post by: citoyen on September 06, 2011, 03:06:52 pm
Bingo.
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Post by: Peter on September 06, 2011, 03:08:09 pm
French shout across US city on call for parishioner (7)

Clarion

I don't think the setter should be allowed to solve their own clue. ;)

d.

It was just taking sooooooo  looooong.....! :)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on September 06, 2011, 03:34:47 pm
Sorry, I hadn't looked in on the thread for a few days.

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on September 06, 2011, 03:39:08 pm
French shout across US city on call for parishioner (7)

Clarion

I don't think the setter should be allowed to solve their own clue. ;)

d.

It was just taking sooooooo  looooong.....! :)

:facepalm: :-[
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on September 06, 2011, 10:44:02 pm
It's Clarion. I guessed that this morning but couldn't work out why.

LA, cri on.
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Post by: Peter on September 07, 2011, 01:16:11 am
It's Clarion. I guessed that this morning but couldn't work out why.

LA, cri on.

The French shout (cri) is across the US city (LA), so  C  LA  RI, then ON
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Post by: Wowbagger on September 08, 2011, 09:10:35 pm
Conductor linked to sulphur, sodium and potassium eventually injects poison (11).
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Post by: Peter on September 08, 2011, 09:14:22 pm
Rattlesnake
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Post by: Tewdric on September 08, 2011, 09:15:47 pm
Rattlesnake.
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Post by: Tewdric on September 08, 2011, 09:16:07 pm
Bugger :-)
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Post by: Peter on September 08, 2011, 09:17:03 pm
No, I think you'll find it really is rattlesnake! :)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on September 24, 2011, 07:01:50 pm
Material made by bee, say, in mini conflagration (5,5)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on September 25, 2011, 11:32:22 pm
Sorry to post another one before yours is answered Pingu, but I couldn't resist.

Places in which clients must not be rubbed up the wrong way (7,8)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on September 25, 2011, 11:34:49 pm
I'd guess that that's MASSAGE PARLOURS.

I had a think about Pingu's last night but haven't got any ideas yet.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on September 26, 2011, 12:05:05 am
I'd guess that that's MASSAGE PARLOURS.

 :thumbsup:   it made me chuckle !!!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on September 26, 2011, 12:09:55 am
Sorry to post another one before yours is answered Pingu, but I couldn't resist.

Places in which clients must not be rubbed up the wrong way (7,8)

Massage Parlours?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on September 26, 2011, 12:11:05 am
Sorry, didn't see Wow's!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on September 26, 2011, 12:19:04 am
Material made by bee, say, in mini conflagration (5,5)

One of the words is denim?
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Post by: Pingu on September 26, 2011, 09:50:07 am
Material made by bee, say, in mini conflagration (5,5)

One of the words is denim?

No.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on September 26, 2011, 10:00:39 am
One of the words is fibre, but I can't get the other.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Gareth Rees on September 26, 2011, 10:08:37 am
Material made by bee, say, in mini conflagration (5,5)

MICRO FIBRE

(You could omit the "say", since "bee" already clues B.)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on September 26, 2011, 10:11:06 am
Obvious now you've said it, Gareth.  That's been doing my head in.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on September 26, 2011, 10:24:43 am
Material made by bee, say, in mini conflagration (5,5)

MICRO FIBRE

(You could omit the "say", since "bee" already clues B.)

Close to my answer - 2nd word is correct. The answer is bike related.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on September 26, 2011, 10:27:51 am
Just realised that I can't count - it should've been (6,5)  :-[
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Post by: Peter on September 26, 2011, 10:32:17 am
Carbon Fibre
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on September 26, 2011, 10:35:08 am
I don't get that.  ???
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on September 26, 2011, 10:36:58 am
Carbon Fibre

 :thumbsup:
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Post by: Peter on September 26, 2011, 10:37:27 am
I don't get that.  ???

Car (mini)    b in bonfire
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Post by: clarion on September 26, 2011, 10:50:46 am
Thanks.  I'd got a b in fire, but not bonfire.  Good one. :thumbsup:
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Post by: citoyen on September 26, 2011, 04:16:43 pm
Sorry for jumping in out of turn, but this just came to me...

Damn shells! (6)
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Post by: Wowbagger on September 26, 2011, 05:09:32 pm
Blasts?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Gareth Rees on September 26, 2011, 06:36:55 pm
Damn shells! (6)

SNAILS

[OED: Snails, int. Obs. An abbreviation of God's nails, used as a petty oath or exclamation.]
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on September 26, 2011, 09:35:51 pm
No and no. Though both good answers.

d.
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Post by: Peter on September 27, 2011, 09:15:33 pm
Shucks
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Post by: citoyen on September 27, 2011, 09:25:45 pm
Yup!

d.
Title: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on October 05, 2011, 08:04:25 am
If no one else wants to pick up the baton, here's another I just came up with…

"Musical number performed by foe or twat." (3,3,3)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on October 05, 2011, 09:32:41 am
Eat for two? Eat for two?

And then it dawned on me.  ;D
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Post by: citoyen on October 05, 2011, 10:16:54 am
I think you've got it.  ;D

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on October 05, 2011, 11:54:07 am
I remember one of those very old Auraucaria double puzzles - at least 30 years ago - when the answer was "Indian Ocean" but we got very hung up on "Indian Canoe" as a possible answer.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on October 05, 2011, 12:30:08 pm
My favourite wrong 'right answer' was also from the Guardian.  I don't remember the exact clue, but it was along the lines of:  Work by gay

We had:

B_GG_R_ / _P_R_

One of our number was insistent that the answer was 'Buggery Sport'. ;D
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on October 19, 2011, 12:39:04 am
A clue from todays i that has me puzzled !!!

Plastic train from US (8,7)

any ideas ?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on October 19, 2011, 10:12:51 am
American Express?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on October 19, 2011, 07:44:12 pm
American Express?

 :thumbsup:
Amazing, once you see it you kick yourself.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on December 02, 2011, 03:42:45 am
Finally finished a Cryptic from the 'i' paper today  ;D
No. 252 by DAC ( although l haven't attempted them all
)

A clue from the crossword......

Gentleman showing hesitation in fancy bow tie store (6,7)
Title: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: PeeJay on December 02, 2011, 08:47:54 am
Bertie Wooster ??

Sent from my BlackBerry 9780 using Tapatalk
Title: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: PeeJay on December 02, 2011, 12:35:01 pm
Here's one I liked from a Guardian Quiptic a couple of weeks ago:

Garfunkel recording that's seen in gallery? (4,2,3)



Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on December 02, 2011, 01:20:46 pm
Here's one I liked from a Guardian Quiptic a couple of weeks ago:

Garfunkel recording that's seen in gallery? (4,2,3)

Work of Art
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 13, 2011, 02:56:52 pm
CERN result's no big "Gosh!", possibly? (5,5)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on December 13, 2011, 03:47:36 pm
Topical  :thumbsup:

(That's not the answer BTW  ;) )
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Post by: Bartonflyer on December 13, 2011, 05:18:21 pm
CERN result's no big "Gosh!", possibly? (5,5)

Higgs Boson - have they found it yet?

One of my all time favourites:

Smuggle grain in Cheshire (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on December 13, 2011, 09:23:34 pm
Runcorn

ETA

On same lines:-

Sounds like a thin drink at charter site  (9)
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Post by: Bartonflyer on December 13, 2011, 09:55:32 pm
Runnymede

Not one of mine, but from today's Indie - short & succint

Elementary clue? (4)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on December 13, 2011, 10:05:46 pm
Lead?
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Post by: Snakehips on December 13, 2011, 10:10:49 pm
Lead?
Very good.

I was torn between neon and iron. Neither seemed quite right.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Bartonflyer on December 13, 2011, 10:36:38 pm
Lead it is - the best cryptic clues are the shortest (IMO)
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Post by: Wonky on December 13, 2011, 11:53:12 pm
Lead it is - the best cryptic clues are the shortest (IMO)

O (8,6)
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Post by: Tewdric on December 13, 2011, 11:57:26 pm
Circular letter?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on December 14, 2011, 11:23:56 am
Have we had

E (13)
Title: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wonky on December 14, 2011, 05:58:50 pm
Circular letter?
Correct.

Not to be confused with;

0 (5,6)
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Post by: Wowbagger on December 14, 2011, 06:07:01 pm
Round number
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Post by: Bartonflyer on December 14, 2011, 06:49:10 pm
Have we had

E (13)

Have to confess to having seen this before --
(click to show/hide)

can't think of any more good ones at the moment
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Post by: Tewdric on December 14, 2011, 06:59:12 pm
Her majesty’s angry outburst is highly irregular. (6)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on December 14, 2011, 08:42:44 pm
Errant
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Post by: Tewdric on December 14, 2011, 09:05:50 pm
Errant

Of course!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on March 08, 2012, 08:09:52 am
This shows the way to personalise letters ( 8 )
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on March 08, 2012, 08:16:31 am
Signpost?
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Post by: Dinamo on March 08, 2012, 08:49:02 am
Signpost?

Yep   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on March 08, 2012, 11:25:07 pm
A ruler lied, for a change? (10)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on March 09, 2012, 06:41:38 am
DERAILLEUR

Btw, android phone owners, there's a new Guardian crossword app that they're giving away as a free trial at the moment.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crosswords/crossword-blog/2012/mar/08/android-crossword-app-launch

No iPhone version yet...

d.

Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on March 09, 2012, 09:32:04 am
DERAILLEUR

Yes :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on March 25, 2012, 11:53:17 pm
Flier accommodates expected argument (5,7)
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Post by: Gareth Rees on March 29, 2012, 12:31:58 pm
Flier accommodates expected argument (5,7)

HOUSE SPARROW
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on March 29, 2012, 09:50:24 pm
YACF, in confusion expanding "cycling" into fervent religion, becomes body of teachers. (7)
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Post by: Peter on March 29, 2012, 09:59:58 pm
Faculty
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Post by: Peter on April 02, 2012, 02:14:50 pm
Bear topped;car tailed;unknown.  Might he eat you?  (4,6)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on April 04, 2012, 08:29:27 pm
OK, here's another clue with the same answer:-

He crossed the Alps, unaspirated and curly-headed.  (4,6)

Neither clue has a definition (nor should need one on this forum).
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on April 05, 2012, 02:52:30 pm
Eddy Merkyx
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on April 05, 2012, 04:17:26 pm
'Merckx' isn't it ?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on April 05, 2012, 04:37:27 pm
I think the clue only gives us Eddy Merkx

Unless I'm missing something :(
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on April 05, 2012, 05:01:40 pm
Bear topped;car tailed;unknown.  Might he eat you?  (4,6)
Bear topped = (T)eddy
Car = Merc
Tailed = k
Unknown = x
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on April 05, 2012, 05:07:56 pm
Why is tailed 'k'?  I don't know that one.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on April 05, 2012, 07:05:39 pm
Here's how the first one works (or doesn't, as the case may be!).

Bear topped:  Teddy decapitated gives Eddy

Car tailed:  Mercedes with no tail gives merc.....

Oh, my goodness, you're right!  NO k!!!!  x was the unknown, certainly.

So, let's try the second one:-

He crossed the Alps, unaspirated and curly-headed


Hannibal crossed the Alps.  Unaspirated (no h) he becomes annibal; curly-headed gives c at the front (primary school teachers will be familiar with "curly ku" for c, "kicking ku" for k), so we get cannibal, which was Eddy's nickname.  He crossed the Alps rather more frequently than Hannibal!

Sorry for the mistake - I made it up in bed, which is where I do a lot of imagining!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on April 05, 2012, 08:04:39 pm
That second one is probably too oblique for the conventions: you aren't usually allowed wordplay (hannibal->cannibal) in the definition where it doesn't make it into the final answer. You could put it backwards:

Breathing roughly, previous bloke loses his head---he made it across the Alps though. (8)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on April 05, 2012, 08:14:34 pm
OK, perhaps I do more oblique crosswords, sometimes, and am not aware of the conventions, but I agree, it is a tricky one, though others may differ!

Your clue would still be missing a "c", I think?

Edit whoops! just realised the roughly gives c, but "the previous bloke"?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on April 06, 2012, 01:05:52 pm
I wasn't sure at first but I think it's actually a valid clue within the "rules" - too clever for me though!

At first glance, the "definition" is missing, but it's actually an &lit - the whole clue is the definition. "Curly-headed" is slightly tenuous but works.

d.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on April 06, 2012, 01:59:18 pm
I wasn't sure at first but I think it's actually a valid clue within the "rules" - too clever for me though!

At first glance, the "definition" is missing, but it's actually an &lit - the whole clue is the definition. "Curly-headed" is slightly tenuous but works.

d.

Thanks D!  Over to someone else while I continue with my rehabilitation!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on April 07, 2012, 07:13:44 pm
Phone for Peter's error: on road going the wrong way (5)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on April 07, 2012, 09:43:47 pm
Nokia - nice one, Pingu!

Feel free to dive in, anyone, while I think of one.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Tewdric on April 07, 2012, 09:49:31 pm
A financial scamster's advantage? (9)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on July 25, 2012, 01:10:20 am
Just remembered this thread!  Are we talking about a particular financial scamster?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 28, 2012, 12:53:24 am
Here's one to be getting on with ..........

Qualification achieved by sending back French translation of 'the bicycle' (1,5)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on July 28, 2012, 01:16:32 am
l'eleve ?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 28, 2012, 01:29:37 am
l'eleve ?

Nope
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on July 28, 2012, 01:42:11 am
O Level.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 28, 2012, 03:23:07 am
O Level.

Yes, here's another ...........

One throwing mud in the middle of golf tournament, suggesting where drugs are used  (5,3)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on July 28, 2012, 09:32:30 am
Opium den?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Dinamo on July 28, 2012, 06:46:52 pm
Opium den?

Correct   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on August 10, 2012, 09:24:46 am
Bar of soap (6,6)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Gareth Rees on August 10, 2012, 09:50:54 am
Bar of soap (6,6)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on August 10, 2012, 09:58:19 am
Correct!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on January 12, 2013, 11:13:28 pm
BBC News - Araucaria crossword setter gives cancer clue (http://bbc.in/WzEEUX)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/crosswords/cryptic/25842
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Post by: Wowbagger on January 12, 2013, 11:22:05 pm
That's sad.

He is to crosswords what Muhammad Ali was to boxing.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: nicknack on January 12, 2013, 11:55:24 pm
Back in the days when I used to buy the Grauniad he was always my favourite crossword compiler.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on January 13, 2013, 12:05:25 am
He's the favourite in our house, too.  A quick look at the clue indicates that it is a particularly pernicious one.  Here's hoping he beats it.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on January 19, 2013, 02:11:02 pm
Navigator's instrument, under sea not each is still in existence (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on January 19, 2013, 02:17:15 pm
Sextant?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on January 19, 2013, 02:19:59 pm
Yes. Sea (missing ea.), followed by extant. Hurrah! Probably a down clue.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on January 19, 2013, 02:42:30 pm
How funny that a word I've not previously seen on the forum should appear twice in the same day in threads on the same board.

Sextant.

See also here (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=67588.0).
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on January 19, 2013, 02:46:53 pm
I suspect that one thing inspired another.

Hippo go baa for fear of cold weather and its henchmen. (10)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on January 19, 2013, 02:49:22 pm
Something ..phobia.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on January 19, 2013, 02:52:50 pm
pagophobia
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on January 19, 2013, 02:58:33 pm
Yes. Isn't "hippo go baa" a lovely anagram?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on January 19, 2013, 05:55:34 pm
It is!  They are not that docile off the page!  I'll see if I can come up with something soon.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on January 22, 2013, 05:41:15 pm
In the meantime, here's one that came to me on the train this morning...

Poisonous, tailless parasite swallows bullock. (5)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Snakehips on January 22, 2013, 05:48:43 pm
Poisonous, tailless parasite swallows bullock. (5)

toxic
Title: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on January 22, 2013, 07:05:35 pm
Yup. Not difficult but a neat surface, I thought.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on September 22, 2013, 06:54:00 pm
Poetical scene has surprisingly chaste Lord Archer vegetating (3, 3, 8, 12)

Shamelessly nicked, but so brilliant I had to share it. Please have a go before googling.

Edit: it's one of Araucaria's.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Basil on September 22, 2013, 07:15:23 pm
I'm afraid I had to Google. 
Just as well I did, as I'm afraid the solution meant nothing to me at all.
*shamed*
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on September 23, 2013, 07:53:29 am
Poetical scene has surprisingly chaste Lord Archer vegetating (3, 3, 8, 12)

Shamelessly nicked, but so brilliant I had to share it. Please have a go before googling.

Edit: it's one of Araucaria's.
Some, it may be, can get in touch
With Nature there, or Earth, or such;
And clever modern men have seen
A Faun a-peeping through the green
And felt the Classics were not dead
To glimpse a naiad's reedy head
Or hear the Goat-Foot piping low:
But these are things I do not know.
I only know that one may lie
Day-long, and watch the Cambridge sky,
And, flower-lulled in sleepy grass,
Hear the cool lapse of hours pass,
Until the centuries blend and blur...

No googling needed. As you say, a perfect clue.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on September 23, 2013, 10:48:45 am
Another of Araucaria's, whilst not quite so perfect from a purist's point of view, is nonetheless a sign of sheer genius. It's from a Christmas puzzle.

O hark the herald angels sing the boy’s descent which lifted up the world. (5, 9, 7, 5, 6, 2, 5, 3, 6, 2, 3, 6)

Edit: the whole thing is an anagram.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on September 23, 2013, 12:41:20 pm
Poetical scene has surprisingly chaste Lord Archer vegetating (3, 3, 8, 12)

Shamelessly nicked, but so brilliant I had to share it. Please have a go before googling.

Edit: it's one of Araucaria's.

An oldie but still a goodie.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on September 29, 2013, 09:11:08 am
This belongs here too:
Just been reminded of a bit from Geoff Scarr, a Yorkshire (hmm mmaybe not yorkshire thinking about it) comedian I had the pleasure to see many years ago, resulting in buying his LP http://www.discogs.com/Geoff-Scarr-Cumalot-And-Other-Bawdy-Ballads/release/4914630

Anyone else remember him?

Anyway, he came up with what was probably the best crossword clue ever:

Clue:

Hearken to a sexual deviation, 5 2 4 4

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 10, 2013, 07:58:48 pm
Unconventional to give the answer first, then the clue, but I think this works:
twat in a white audi
(click to show/hide)

Twat! You heard: where it should be white, lacking "Vorsprung", and unspecified "Technik". Goes without saying? (9)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on December 10, 2013, 10:11:22 pm
;D
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 15, 2013, 07:07:20 am
Solvent from distilled pine? Nutter! (10) (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=78570.msg1610946#msg1610946)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 15, 2013, 07:21:32 am
Turpentine.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 15, 2013, 07:35:10 am
Mayor is tuned to One Direction in W8 (10)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: T42 on December 15, 2013, 07:45:37 am
Kensington


Bean-counters so circumspect for a large bird? (9)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 15, 2013, 07:51:48 am
Indeed, which is where I am off to shortly.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 15, 2013, 12:50:55 pm
Cassowary

(Also, I've just worked out how Wow's clue works. Tuned "in G", very nice.)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on December 15, 2013, 03:58:05 pm
Thanks for the explanation.  I'd got the rest, but couldn't manage that bit.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 20, 2013, 07:56:08 am
Let's get these in early:

Gift Mary's missing: frankincense's third, and second, signifier of a king, rhodium. (5)

Scrooge's attitude, say, during the Christmas story. (10)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on December 20, 2013, 08:37:04 am
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Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 20, 2013, 08:51:22 am
(click to show/hide)
Yup.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2013, 07:52:12 pm
Did anyone notice that today is the 100th anniversary of the first ever crossword, in the New York Times, 21/12/1913?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2013, 07:57:59 pm
Anyone fancy the Gaun cryptic Christmas puzzle?

(http://static.guim.co.uk/ni/1387370480499/Prize-crossword-26,137.pdf)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2013, 08:08:37 pm
I seem to be unable to print it without the left-hand column of squares disappearing.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on December 21, 2013, 08:08:54 pm
Wow, I haven't seen this year's (our neighbour usually passes the paper on no a Sunday).  Is it a double? Did Araucaria leave us a farewell present?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2013, 09:00:05 pm
It's by Maskerade, of whom I have never heard, and it' the monstrosity I embedded above.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on December 21, 2013, 09:11:54 pm
Ah!  Can't find anything embedded, or otherwise!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2013, 09:36:58 pm
Nothing in Reply #287?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 21, 2013, 10:29:47 pm
http://static.guim.co.uk/ni/1387370480499/Prize-crossword-26,137.pdf
Now divested of its [img] tags. The link is correct. I've only got a couple of clues, and the long made-up quotation around the edge, left on the Private Eye crossword, so bear with me.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on December 21, 2013, 11:42:14 pm
Did anyone notice that today is the 100th anniversary of the first ever crossword, in the New York Times, 21/12/1913?

How many letters?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 21, 2013, 11:45:37 pm
Did anyone notice that today is the 100th anniversary of the first ever crossword, in the New York Times, 21/12/1913?

How many letters?
3,6,6,4,5,2,3,5,11,2,3,5,4,9,2,3,3,4,5,2/2/4.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on December 22, 2013, 12:18:43 am
Managed to find it now, Wow, thanks.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on December 26, 2013, 10:45:08 am
The Christmas double seemed ok to me, though I've still got one to get, I think.  Did you notice the self-reference?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hellymedic on December 26, 2013, 12:21:51 pm
Did anyone notice that today is the 100th anniversary of the first ever crossword, in the New York Times, 21/12/1913?

Diamond Geezer certainly did!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on December 26, 2013, 12:40:20 pm
Did anyone notice that today is the 100th anniversary of the first ever crossword, in the New York Times, 21/12/1913?

Diamond Geezer certainly did!

http://www.theguardian.com/crosswords/cryptic/26135
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 27, 2013, 02:59:38 pm
Scrooge's attitude, say, during the Christmas story. (10)
No attempts? Answer to this one is
(click to show/hide)

Two days into Christmas, fighting robin. (6,3)

Danish great-grandmother imprisoned by an evil wizard. (7) (NB: Google Translate may help non-Danes here.)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 27, 2013, 08:31:57 pm
Boxing Day

I'll keep thinking about the other.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 27, 2013, 08:36:54 pm
Oldemor
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 27, 2013, 08:43:17 pm
Felines elevated? You've got a sauce! (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on December 27, 2013, 09:36:54 pm
Catsup is, etymologically, an early form of KETCHUP; but it's hardly Ximenean.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on February 10, 2014, 12:12:57 am
Preserve area, we hear, in the West Indies (7).
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: jsabine on February 10, 2014, 12:57:32 am
I got that very quickly (rare for me - I don't normally grok cryptic clues at all), but it took me ten times as long to work out how 'area, we hear' worked.

Groan ...
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on February 11, 2014, 09:23:09 pm
Reserve after Junior admits alias, in the East Indies (7).
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: T42 on February 12, 2014, 02:31:09 pm
My wife's gone to the East Indies.
-----?
No, she went by paddle steamer.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on February 12, 2014, 02:32:48 pm
Jakarta
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on March 13, 2014, 08:13:37 pm
About turn! Left! About turn! Right! About turn! Rock! (5)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on March 13, 2014, 08:53:50 pm
Uluru (aka Ayer's Rock)

I'll try and come up with one soon!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on March 14, 2014, 12:24:45 am
Typical British weather (eastern) - topical  (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on March 25, 2014, 02:38:00 pm
Nice theme in today's Grauniad cryptic  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on March 25, 2014, 02:45:59 pm
Answer the question!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on March 25, 2014, 03:54:43 pm
Nice theme in today's Grauniad cryptic  :thumbsup:

 :thumbsup:

(Sorry, Peter, haven't worked yours out yet. But Pingu is right. Lovely.)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on March 25, 2014, 03:58:18 pm
Ah, I only see The Guardian at the weekend.  I'll have a look on line.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on March 25, 2014, 06:29:32 pm
Answer the question!
UK-rain-E. But "topical" is a bit unximenean for my taste.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on March 25, 2014, 07:04:50 pm
A French poor girl covers up jumble. That's against our principles (10)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on March 25, 2014, 07:34:56 pm
Answer the question!
UK-rain-E. But "topical" is a bit unximenean for my taste.

How do you mean?  In the sense that it is a clue that won't last?  If so, fair enough - only I wasn't expecting it to take this long!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on March 25, 2014, 10:54:35 pm
More because "topical", though it's a word applicable to Ukraine at the moment, doesn't in any way define it.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on March 26, 2014, 12:10:52 am
You're right, H, bit sloppy, that!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on June 01, 2014, 01:00:34 pm
Professorship after a Masters? Lewis's grass. (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on June 01, 2014, 06:46:12 pm
Machair
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on June 01, 2014, 07:21:52 pm
Indeed. How's the conk?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on June 01, 2014, 08:38:34 pm
Better. Shoulder's still a bit sore.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Nuncio on June 01, 2014, 09:50:46 pm
How many letters?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Rich XAB on June 01, 2014, 09:57:31 pm


(2,6)   (4,1,5)

 :)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Rich XAB on June 01, 2014, 10:04:08 pm
Sorry; jumped the gun, didn't realise you had to answer one first.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on June 02, 2014, 01:03:04 am
No ------ (5) would give "clues" - Just a blank?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on June 02, 2014, 09:43:33 am
Sorry; jumped the gun, didn't realise you had to answer one first.
After the first exuberant rush on this thread some years ago, that stricture serves no purpose at all. Any clues are welcome. I, for one, welcome our... drat, no solver? (3, 3, 9)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on June 02, 2014, 01:19:57 pm
Half a crown?



(2,6)   (4,1,5)

 :)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Rich XAB on June 02, 2014, 02:09:22 pm
Top of the class, Pingu.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on June 03, 2014, 12:10:07 am
Very neat!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on June 06, 2014, 01:08:02 pm
A French poor girl covers up jumble. That's against our principles (10)

I wrote this one for HTFB if that's any help.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on June 09, 2014, 12:09:31 pm
A French poor girl covers up jumble. That's against our principles (10)

I wrote this one for HTFB if that's any help.
UNE and an anagram of ANNE, around MIX upwards.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on June 10, 2014, 11:04:25 am
A French poor girl covers up jumble. That's against our principles (10)

I wrote this one for HTFB if that's any help.
UNE and an anagram of ANNE, around MIX upwards.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on June 10, 2014, 10:51:23 pm
A French poor girl covers up jumble. That's against our principles (10)

I wrote this one for HTFB if that's any help.
UNE and an anagram of ANNE, around MIX upwards.

I still can't work out the answer...
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: clarion on June 11, 2014, 12:06:11 pm
I'm glad I'm not alone in that.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on August 26, 2014, 06:07:04 pm
Within seven days, Union's "historic name": Alex Salmond (3,3)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on August 26, 2014, 06:34:26 pm
Wee Eck.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on August 26, 2014, 06:52:35 pm
Ill, he dances not, ruptured. (8, 6)

Edit: I couldn't count and have revised the number of letters.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on August 26, 2014, 06:57:15 pm
Wee Eck.
Yup. Must remember to tweet that again in a fortnight or so.

A couple of solutions left outstanding:

A French poor girl covers up jumble. That's against our principles (10)
UNE and an anagram of ANNE, around MIX upwards.
UNXIMENEAN (i.e., against the canonical principles of crossword-setting, as set out by Ximenes.)

I, for one, welcome our... drat, no solver? (3, 3, 9)
NEW ANT OVERLORDS ("Drat, no solver" is an anagram of "ant overlords". So the anagram indicator is in the answer, not the clue. I believe Ximenes permits this, at least with the question mark. Doesn't he? Please?)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on August 26, 2014, 07:09:43 pm
I suspect that my last clue may well not obey the Ximinean rules, but it is apposite.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Jaded on August 26, 2014, 07:30:38 pm
Achilles tendon
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on August 26, 2014, 07:39:05 pm
Indeed. Quite proud of that anagram.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on September 12, 2014, 02:23:44 pm
Within seven days, Union's "historic name": Alex Salmond (3,3)

Quitting cherished Union six days before referendum, town setting pattern? (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on September 12, 2014, 03:08:49 pm
Paisley!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on September 12, 2014, 09:07:25 pm
Is a Paisley tie the bond that holds the union together? (That's not a clue, by the way).
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on September 13, 2014, 10:13:24 am
Vote showing spirit about last part of joint purpose (10)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on September 13, 2014, 10:24:24 am
Referendum.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on September 13, 2014, 10:39:38 am
Consultation people (among which I) refer to (10)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on September 13, 2014, 12:25:52 pm
Referendum.
Yup.  An alternative clue:

Polling official cut short Union, admitting "draw" (10)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on September 13, 2014, 12:34:43 pm
My brother was sufficiently impressed to text me this just now, from today's Graun:

Gosh! Isn't the platform busy tonight! (4,5,2,3,5)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on September 13, 2014, 12:53:12 pm
VG. Busy is the anagram indicator.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on September 13, 2014, 02:23:38 pm
And another summer flies past!
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on September 14, 2014, 11:16:48 am
Consultation people (among which I) refer to (10)

This one's still outstanding. Here's another:

Year for Parliament to comprehend former Union territory's leaving (9)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on September 14, 2014, 02:59:55 pm
I'm not ignoring this, I just haven't come up with any ideas yet.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on September 15, 2014, 06:41:12 pm
He gambles to win partner for him in (traditional!) Union? No. (6, 8)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on October 02, 2014, 06:45:11 pm
Bullshitter was an answer in today's Grauniad cryptic.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on October 02, 2014, 09:18:35 pm
He gambles to win partner for him in (traditional!) Union? No. (6, 8)

sorry, just seen this

Better Together
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: HTFB on November 24, 2014, 07:12:25 am
Racing driver drops 1,... 50,... 100mph. That's on the A20 and A21. (8)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on November 24, 2014, 09:03:45 am
Lewisham
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on May 17, 2015, 01:45:43 am
International standard bra size in Kent. (6)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: JennyB on May 17, 2015, 06:31:13 am
International standard bra size in Kent. (6)


Sidcup
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on May 17, 2015, 10:13:36 am
Indeed! That occurred to me on Thursday whild driving along the M20 and observed the letters DCUP appear on the satnav. It amused me.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 07, 2016, 10:53:27 pm
OK, help!

We have just been doing the Graun's "Quiptic" crossword with Phyllis. It only turns up on a Monday. I find it a bit irritating, to be honest, but particularly when I can't understand the answer, even when I've got it.

"Often described as wonderful, surprisingly (6)"

(click to show/hide)

but I am damned if I can see why.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Basil on December 07, 2016, 11:14:21 pm
What is seldom is wonderful

An Irish saying

 
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 07, 2016, 11:26:30 pm
Thanks.

No less irritated!  ;)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on February 01, 2017, 05:01:21 pm
Nice one from today's Guardian:

Right-wing Mad Hatter ethic. (11)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on February 01, 2017, 05:09:27 pm
Nice one from today's Guardian:

Right-wing Mad Hatter ethic. (11)

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Basil on February 01, 2017, 06:41:51 pm
Took me way too long.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: ElyDave on February 01, 2017, 06:48:27 pm
That one was fairly straightforward.  I can normally spot the anagrams, it's the obscure biblical or literary allusions I'm useless at.

With practice a few years ago I was up to about 2/3 of the Times cryptic, but sadly through lack of practice I'm now next to useless.

I think my favourite still has to be

A rag man (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on February 01, 2017, 07:34:00 pm
Ha!  Anagram - as is Teepots (7)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Mr Larrington on February 02, 2017, 08:57:39 am
That episode,of "Drop The Dead Donkey" in which Henry is driven even madder than usual trying to figure out "gegs (9,4)" always made me chortle.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: T42 on February 02, 2017, 10:47:22 am
o that is vile
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on March 03, 2017, 06:35:25 pm
Following this week's brilliantly twisted episode of Inside No.9, my son has suddenly become interested in cryptic crosswords.

I just sent him the following text message:

Czech jailer fink cooked tonight's dinner. (7,8)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: ElyDave on March 03, 2017, 06:40:33 pm
just a montage of veg for me.

Yours sounds better.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on March 15, 2017, 03:08:07 pm
Accept what's offered in cash - George Best cons bar when drunk. (7,4,2,8)

(from today's Guardian)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on March 15, 2017, 06:55:20 pm
Beggars can't be choosers?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on March 15, 2017, 07:42:25 pm
:thumbsup:

Not a difficult one but neatly constructed.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Peter on March 16, 2017, 02:07:53 am
Yes; who was it?  It's Araucaria's style but presumably not him.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on March 16, 2017, 03:58:02 pm
Yes; who was it?  It's Araucaria's style but presumably not him.

Tramp - one of the newer setters, although he's been around a few years now. Definitely a disciple of Araucaria but generally much easier.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: nicknack on March 16, 2017, 04:43:52 pm
There was a nice one in The Week a few weeks ago:
Ultimately sexist ass in America (5)
Not too hard to get.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on March 16, 2017, 04:59:41 pm
There was a nice one in The Week a few weeks ago:
Ultimately sexist ass in America (5)
Not too hard to get.

 ;D
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Basil on March 16, 2017, 05:25:23 pm
There was a nice one in The Week a few weeks ago:
Ultimately sexist ass in America (5)
Not too hard to get.

Very good.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Torslanda on March 17, 2017, 12:03:01 am
Am I alone in NEVER being able to work out cryptic clues?  ??? <BAFFLED>  ???

What's the technique? I. Just. Don't. Get. Them.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Basil on March 17, 2017, 12:10:51 am
Am I alone in NEVER being able to work out cryptic clues?  ??? <BAFFLED>  ???

What's the technique? I. Just. Don't. Get. Them.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/sep/12/how-to-solve-cryptic-crossword-clues


Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Torslanda on March 17, 2017, 12:16:03 am
Still baffled . . .

Mind you, can't play chess either. Must be something to do with Asperger's?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hellymedic on March 17, 2017, 12:27:43 am
A bit like explaining a joke. You frequently have to disassemble and reassemble words.

TRUMP is the answer upthread. The ultimate part is rump, which equals ass in USAnian etc...
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on March 17, 2017, 08:21:58 am
And 'T' is the ultimate letter of 'sexist'.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on March 17, 2017, 08:25:46 am
Must be something to do with Asperger's?

I don't know the answer to that but it's a really interesting thought.

I learnt how to do cryptic crosswords by 'helping' my dad with the Guardian prize crossword on Saturdays, but have subsequently learnt a lot more from reading Don Manley's book and from following the blog at fifteensquared.net. You definitely get better with practice - it's partly down to learning the techniques and partly down to learning the standard crossword tropes (eg 'sailor' in a clue often stands for the letters = TAR or ABS).

The best clues avoid the tropes and clichés. Araucaria was always good at coming up with original and witty clues, which is one of the reasons he was so loved by progressively minded solvers, and why he was hated by the more conservative types.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on March 17, 2017, 08:29:33 am
TRUMP is the answer upthread. The ultimate part is rump, which equals ass in USAnian etc...

And 'T' is the ultimate letter of 'sexist'.

Also worth noting that the clue is an &lit type - where the whole clue is both the definition and the wordplay.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on March 17, 2017, 10:25:27 am
I think that there are quite a few aspie kids who get on very well with chess - provided it's their thing. I suppose it's fairly unlikely that they would be involved in cryptic crosswords at such a young age though, so I doubt it would be easy to set up a reasonable comparison.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on March 17, 2017, 10:29:11 am
Accept what's offered in cash - George Best cons bar when drunk. (7,4,2,8)

(from today's Guardian)

It was a football/drink/drugs themed crossword that day.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: nicknack on October 17, 2017, 06:56:28 pm
In the Grauniad the other day:

Exhausted by current Tory tactic to stay in government? (4,2)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on October 17, 2017, 07:06:46 pm
Oh, that is good.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on October 18, 2017, 07:35:29 pm
Calvinists excite Britney Spears. (13)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pingu on November 09, 2017, 12:43:03 pm
In today's Graun:

Quote
Brexit not a disaster? It’s very costly (10)
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Snakehips on November 09, 2017, 01:10:08 pm
In today's Graun:

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Brexit not a disaster? It’s very costly (10)

Exorbitant.

It's very good now its online, it gives old retired people something to do when they are not out riding their bikes  ..... which reminds me!

Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 01, 2017, 12:18:19 am
In the Grauniad the other day:

Exhausted by current Tory tactic to stay in government? (4,2)

I never did work that out. Can someone please put me out of my misery?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Legs on December 01, 2017, 07:46:02 am
It was USED UP (use DUP), which is very droll.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: ElyDave on December 01, 2017, 08:25:41 am
I didn't get that one either.

This is definitely a practice thing, I used to be able to get through 2/3 of the times cryptic when I bought the paper regularly.  Nowadays I'm lucky to get 1/3. 

The literary references are the trickiest I think as you either know it or don't, most of the others, once you've seen the solution you can generally work backwards to see the logic.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on December 31, 2017, 12:50:04 pm
It was USED UP (use DUP), which is very droll.

Thanks! It is very good.

Not cryptic as it was in today's Observer "Speedy" crossword, but included here for comedy value:

"Leather strap that forms the flexible part of a whip: excuse for underwear. (5)"
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: T42 on December 31, 2017, 04:52:59 pm
;D
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on May 17, 2018, 12:09:59 pm
OK - today's Graun quick crossword: "Insincere talk - slope" (4)

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I can see the insincere talk, but where is the slope? I've don't know of such a meaning and I can't (ha!) find that definition of the word in any dictionary.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Beardy on May 17, 2018, 12:14:37 pm
OK - today's Graun quick crossword: "Insincere talk - slope" (4)

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I can see the insincere talk, but where is the slope? I've don't know of such a meaning and I can't (ha!) find that definition of the word in any dictionary.
I've certaianly heard it in terms of sloping ie Canted and a two second google turned up this
cant2
kant/
verb
verb: cant; 3rd person present: cants; past tense: canted; past participle: canted; gerund or present participle: canting
1.
have or cause to have a slanting or oblique position; tilt.
"he canted his head to look at the screen"
synonyms:
tilt, lean, slant, slope, incline, angle, be at an angle; More
tip, list, bank, heel
"the deck canted some twenty degrees"
(of a ship) swing round.
"the ship canted to starboard"
synonyms:
tilt, lean, slant, slope, incline, angle, be at an angle; More
tip, list, bank, heel
"the deck canted some twenty degrees"
noun
noun: cant; plural noun: cants
1.
a slope or tilt.
"the outward cant of the curving walls"
synonyms:
slope, slant, tilt, angle, inclination
"the outward cant of the curving walls"
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on May 17, 2018, 12:18:59 pm
Thanks. I didn't look far enough down the page (bloody Ipads! ;) )
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: T42 on May 17, 2018, 03:27:51 pm
"Insincere talk - slope" made me think of Alan Rickman.

To add to the definitions above, "canting arms" in heraldry include a device that reflects the bearer's name, e.g. a bell for someone called Bell, etc.

A friend of mine once found a book called "The London Cant", which was a 19th-century dictionary of thieves' jargon.  I dearly wanted to pinch it when he wasn't around.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on May 17, 2018, 06:02:46 pm
"Insincere talk - slope" made me think of Alan Rickman.

Great reference! Probably the best thing he ever did, I reckon.

I wonder if that was a deliberate bit of wordplay by Trollope? Seems plausible.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on May 17, 2018, 10:06:08 pm
In the Torygraph yesterday (or maybe the day before).

Coats, bras, pants, jumpers.

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Title: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on May 17, 2018, 11:10:19 pm
Pants? Really?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hellymedic on May 17, 2018, 11:21:50 pm
Breathless rather than garment?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: T42 on May 18, 2018, 07:56:52 am
"Insincere talk - slope" made me think of Alan Rickman.

Great reference! Probably the best thing he ever did, I reckon.

I wonder if that was a deliberate bit of wordplay by Trollope? Seems plausible.

That's a nice thought.  He did go in for canting names, didn't he? Quiverful etc.

BTW, I googled "Quiverful" to check the L-coefficient and found this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiverfull

And not a mention of Trollope or irony.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on May 18, 2018, 09:42:36 pm
Pants? Really?
Given it's the Torygraph I was quite surprised at that usage, but it's not the first time in the last month or so.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on May 18, 2018, 10:51:44 pm
Pants? Really?
Given it's the Torygraph I was quite surprised at that usage, but it's not the first time in the last month or so.

Pants as an anagram indicator is decidedly non-Ximenean.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Pickled Onion on May 18, 2018, 11:40:33 pm
OK, I don't care about the ridicule, how does one spot an anagram indicator (Ximenean or non-Ximenean)?
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on May 19, 2018, 09:26:14 am
OK, I don't care about the ridicule, how does one spot an anagram indicator (Ximenean or non-Ximenean)?
Ooooo. Where to start ?
Try here - http://cryptics.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_anagram_indicators
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: citoyen on May 19, 2018, 01:34:07 pm
OK, I don't care about the ridicule, how does one spot an anagram indicator (Ximenean or non-Ximenean)?

Look for any word or phrase that suggests change, revolution, agitation, turmoil, confusion...

It also has to be immediately next to a word or group of words that add up to the right number of letters (it would have helped if hatler had given the number of letters when quoting the clue)

The Chambers Crossword Dictionary lists six pages of anagram indicators, four columns per page. The only limit is the setter's imagination. For me, pants doesn't work as an anagram indicator because it's not grammatical - 'pants' can mean rubbish or nonsense, but the clue lacks a verb.

Ximenes was very strict about adhering to the rules - the principle being that you've got to give solvers a chance. Others are prepared to allow more liberties, especially for the sake of a witty or superficially amusing clue. Here's a famous example of a non-Ximenean anagram clue that I admire:
Poetical scene with surprisingly chaste Lord Archer vegetating (3, 3, 8, 12)

"Poetical scene" is the definition, "surprisingly" is the anagram indicator.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: Wowbagger on May 19, 2018, 09:36:18 pm
I liken Ximenes to Bach, Araucaria to Mozart.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: T42 on May 20, 2018, 09:21:44 am
Araucaria sounds like a dental problem.

Returning to this:

In the Torygraph yesterday (or maybe the day before).

Coats, bras, pants, jumpers.

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How do you get rid of the extra S?  Sacrobats might be acrobats that land on their arses.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: hatler on May 20, 2018, 02:25:41 pm
Woops. Good spot. Sorry. I was doing it from memory. It would have been 'coat', not 'coats'.
Title: Re: The Cryptic Crossword Clue Thread
Post by: T42 on May 20, 2018, 04:08:16 pm
Gotcha. Ta.