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Title: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on May 10, 2011, 08:06:59 pm
Yes, another 16 odious social climbers with no sense of self-awareness or morals crash and burn.  I love it.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: mike on May 10, 2011, 08:21:04 pm

    YouTube
        - Cassetteboy vs The Bloody Apprentice
   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yxi6QDwQyLU&feature=player_embedded)

all you need to know.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Arch on May 10, 2011, 09:12:21 pm
I was posting on Cyclechat as it started. I thought I'd finish posting before getting up to turn off (no remote on my telly). But after the first two snippets of self introduction, I threw the laptop aside and jumped up to turn off.

Are they real?  I know there are some twats out there, but where do they find them?
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on May 11, 2011, 06:36:22 am
They go through 10,000 applicants to find the 16 biggest twats.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: AndyK on May 11, 2011, 07:58:41 am
‎'I'm the youngest and the shortest on the team'. Worst reason ever to not be fired. :D
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on May 11, 2011, 08:07:57 am
‎'I'm the youngest and the shortest on the team'. Worst reason ever to not be fired. :D

Napoleon complex...

He was a complete twat.  As were Edna and Melody on the girls' team.  I can't see either of them lasting long - except for the entertainment value.  I loved Melody's claim to have been trained by al Gore and the Dalai Lama... ::-)
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Morrisette on May 11, 2011, 09:59:21 am
The Apprentice, I love it!!!!

'There's no shame in being an accountant'
'I'm the shortest on the team'
'I was personally taught by the Dalai Lama' - is he moonlighting as a motivational speaker?!

LOVE IT!!
It's on again tonight!!
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Charlotte on May 11, 2011, 10:03:54 am
I'd rather sit there for an hour, repeatedly hitting myself really hard on the kneecaps with a pointy geologist's hammer than have to watch this innane, feckless drivel.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Hot Flatus on May 11, 2011, 10:14:10 am
It is a light entertainment programme, where a bunch of  young people enter in the full knowledge that they are putting themselves up for ridicule. Many of them willingly oblige by creating ridiculous and hateful personas.

Surely?
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Riggers on May 11, 2011, 10:23:28 am
It's brilliant trash tv. I think at least one of them should have the balls to say, "The sun shines out of my arse Lord Sugar." I think Nick's eyebrow's would then travel halfway round the back of his head.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Rhys W on May 11, 2011, 10:28:12 am
My current theory is that the people who enjoy this programme the most have never had to work in an environment that nurtures this kind of self-important wankstain. A relative of mine for instance, who's only job since university is work for a quango promoting literature and giving grants to writers and poets - she loves it. It just reminds me of too many two-faced backstabbing lying chancers you see in Sales.

And the worrying thing is that some young kids see these people as role models. They follow Alan Sugar on twitter and before you know it, a generation comes out of 3rd rate ex-polytechnics with "degrees" in "business studies" and they're "risk managers" before they're 25. Heaven help us all.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: citoyen on May 11, 2011, 10:38:17 am
It is a light entertainment programme, where a bunch of  young people enter in the full knowledge that they are putting themselves up for ridicule. Many of them willingly oblige by creating ridiculous and hateful personas.

Exactly. What's not to like?

(See also: The Only Way Is Essex)

d.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: citoyen on May 11, 2011, 10:39:52 am
My current theory is that the people who enjoy this programme the most have never had to work in an environment that nurtures this kind of self-important wankstain.

Probably true. I probably only like it because I'm a media twat.

d.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Charlotte on May 11, 2011, 10:52:39 am
My current theory is that the people who enjoy this programme the most have never had to work in an environment that nurtures this kind of self-important wankstain.

For truth.

The most I can stand of this sort of person is about thirty consecutive seconds before I find myself motivated to insert them in a cement mould.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Riggers on May 11, 2011, 11:06:02 am
Nah yer don't. You can stand in front of the telly, arms akimbo, shouting "You twat, twat, twat!"
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Mr Larrington on May 11, 2011, 11:17:27 am
My current theory is that the people who enjoy this programme the most have never had to work in an environment that nurtures this kind of self-important wankstain.

I think these are also the people who think The Office is a comedy rather than a fly-on-the-wall documentary...
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on May 11, 2011, 11:34:42 pm
The App episode tonight was rather special. The incredible numbness from the losing team was hilarious. Anyone who watches the show will know the one rule that if the PM crows before the result is announced is going to LOSE.

Come on the Lord Jim with his Jedi skills and his sexy accent, mmmm...
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on May 11, 2011, 11:42:13 pm
The losing PM had a mouth like a reamed chocolate starfish. He was doomed in episode 1.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on May 12, 2011, 06:39:11 am
"Vincent", the bronzed Adonis, is hilariously crap at everything but thinks he's God's gift.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on May 12, 2011, 08:14:00 am
The App episode tonight was rather special. The incredible numbness from the losing team was hilarious. Anyone who watches the show will know the one rule that if the PM crows before the result is announced is going to LOSE.

Come on the Lord Jim with his Jedi skills and his sexy accent, mmmm...

Hands off!!! He's mine!   >:(





 ;D
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on May 12, 2011, 08:15:10 am
Anyone else give a somewhat smug snigger when the estate agent got the chop?  ;D
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Riggers on May 12, 2011, 05:12:11 pm
Jim comes across as a nice chap. He's mine sister!


Actually, I was convinced the girl's should have lost by a country mile. A few of those soppy cows deserve to be culled.

What's with the gloves from Edna at the podium? Durrrr!
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on May 12, 2011, 05:53:25 pm
Jim comes across as a nice chap. He's mine sister!


Actually, I was convinced the girl's should have lost by a country mile. A few of those soppy cows deserve to be culled.

What's with the gloves from Edna at the podium? Durrrr!

Edna and Melody "I've trained with the Dalai Lama"should be the next up against the wall.

Edna for her complete idiocy and lack of fashion sense - Melody for her whiny voice and consistent bragging.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on May 12, 2011, 06:58:50 pm
Let's see...

Leon: wet fart
Melody: annoying bighead
Felicity: invisible
Edna: I remember her from Will O'The Wisp
Mia: sulky cow
Ellie: post-op
Helen: oddly appealing but also an airhead
Vincent: auditioning for D'Artagnan in am dram
Tom: defines weird
Glenn: odd ears
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on May 12, 2011, 07:00:26 pm
So, what was Sue's game than?
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on May 12, 2011, 09:13:51 pm
The rest of them are normal or completely invisible.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on May 12, 2011, 10:43:01 pm
Is this where I come clean with our household's claim to fame?

<edited for Riggers>
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Riggers on May 13, 2011, 10:00:01 am
Is it that one of you can't spellcheck?  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Damn! My comment seems pointless now, damn his eyes and retrospective editing!
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Deano on June 01, 2011, 10:54:35 pm
I really hate Glenn.  His overweening self-importance must be a terrible burden.  If he was any more of a cliche he'd simply vanish into infinity, like the end of Sergeant Pepper where the coda repeats endlessly on the vinyl.

The conversation where (probably) Zoe cut him off while he was trying to upbraid them was wonderful.  It's just a shame she's too ordinary to win. 
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: little miss mac on June 01, 2011, 10:55:31 pm
Is this where I come clean with our household's claim to fame?

<edited for Riggers>

This seems an awfully long time to be kept in suspenders.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on June 01, 2011, 11:00:15 pm
I really hate Glenn.  His overweening self-importance must be a terrible burden.  If he was any more of a cliche he'd simply vanish into infinity, like the end of Sergeant Pepper where the coda repeats endlessly on the vinyl.

The conversation where (probably) Zoe cut him off while he was trying to upbraid them was wonderful.  It's just a shame she's too ordinary to win. 

That conversation was quite funny seeing as they (Glenn and Zoe) were having it off in the house!

I really hate Glenn too. I think that Lord Jim is playing a canny game - I still like him though  ;D
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Deano on June 01, 2011, 11:05:54 pm
Jim seems to have been found out.  I couldn't believe Natasha got away with saying she had issues with the Everydog concept.  Cheeky cow never said a word.

I hate them all - I just enjoy the spectacle of a parade of utterly vile people being humiliated.  Ellie seemed to be a pleasant, hardworking, motivated, useful individual.  No wonder she couldn't last.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jakob on June 02, 2011, 05:39:53 am
My wife and I were certain that Vincent would lose when he was selected as PM and despaired when Glen repeatedly screwed it up.
 Then, when Ellie got fired, I was certain it was for entertainment purposes that Vincent wasn't, but had to take that back shortly after.
 I don't think it would have changed anything if Jim had been there. While the name was his idea, Vincent ran with it and refused listen to others and Jim still worked hard to get the task done as well as possible.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on June 02, 2011, 09:38:15 am
*Points and laughs at Vince and his silly hair and goatee*
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Nuncio on June 02, 2011, 10:21:16 am
Leon's time can't be far off, he was far too weak in his presentation last night.

They showed about 20 seconds of what was supposedly a 20-minute presentation.  We'll have to trust the editors that those 20 seconds were representative. (But agreed - it was excrutiating.)
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on June 02, 2011, 02:08:29 pm
Tom=Cassandra

Five tasks, the team lost every one and each time Tom has said "err, excuse me, don't you think we ought to do X instead" and was proved right. When will they learn to stop ignoring him?

Of course he'll come unstuck in a big way when he gets to be PM because they still won't be listening to him.

Yes, my hubby also pointed out the Cassandra thing last night. He was spot on though. The thing is he has got his head up Lor' Sugar's arse as well.

I thought that Melody's pitch was very good actually.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: asterix on June 02, 2011, 02:18:02 pm
This was undoubtedly the 'Head up ass' episode.

Loved the way 'is Lordship sacked one of Vincent's choices then, just as the creep was thinking his vile strategy had worked, sacked him as well.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on June 02, 2011, 02:21:36 pm
This was undoubtedly the 'Head up ass' episode.

Loved the way 'is Lordship sacked one of Vincent's choices then, just as the creep was thinking his vile strategy had worked, sacked him as well.

I think his (Lor' Sugar) exact words were 'a clear message has got to go back to the house' - hopefully they have now got the memo...

Does anyone like any of the girls? I quite like Ellie and I don't believe there is a 'Stella' this year.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on June 02, 2011, 02:27:05 pm
Susan can't last. Surely.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on June 02, 2011, 02:30:32 pm
Ellie and Zoe are the only just about human ones there.

Melody's completely up her own fundament, Edna's a back-stabber, Susan's a complete sulker, Helen's a bitch, and  Natasha believes her own publicity too much.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Nuncio on June 02, 2011, 02:31:09 pm
I quite like(d) Ellie. She's better off out of there I think.  Ambivalent about Zoe at the moment.  The others: no (but I can't remember which one Susan is).

(OT btw h_w: Jack Army!)
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on June 02, 2011, 03:29:23 pm
I quite like(d) Ellie. She's better off out of there I think.  Ambivalent about Zoe at the moment.  The others: no (but I can't remember which one Susan is).

(OT btw h_w: Jack Army!)


Jack Army! Jack Army! If you're not from Cardiff, stand up  :-*
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on June 09, 2011, 07:26:23 am
I like Helen ("Project Manager Barbie") and the Irish bloke.  I'm glad Edna went: she was so full of HR bullshit that you could see it coming out of her ears.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on June 09, 2011, 08:01:21 am
I like Helen ("Project Manager Barbie") and the Irish bloke.  I'm glad Edna went: she was so full of HR bullshit that you could see it coming out of her ears.

I had hoped he'd do another double sacking - and get rid of Susan as well.  All she does is whinge and sulk.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on June 09, 2011, 08:43:36 am
Edna had an MBA???

They must give thhrm out with cornflake packets nowadays.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on June 09, 2011, 04:46:08 pm
I like Helen ("Project Manager Barbie") and the Irish bloke.  I'm glad Edna went: she was so full of HR bullshit that you could see it coming out of her ears.

I had hoped he'd do another double sacking - and get rid of Susan as well.  All she does is whinge and sulk.

Susan gets on my nerves. Melody has still got the second most annoying voice in the world (after Robert Peston).
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: citoyen on June 09, 2011, 05:04:43 pm
Edna had an MBA???

Yes, but she doesn't like to talk about it.

d.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jakob on June 09, 2011, 07:53:12 pm
I think what saved Zoe was that she immediately accepted responsibility for losing the first 2 pitches...and then generously helped by Edna digging her own grave. It was very hard not to compare her 'MBA' comment with the Sandhurst idiot a season or two ago.
 (Not to mention that Edna really ought to have lost the moble app task and gotten fired for it).
Susan, well, last time Zoe was a PM, Susan claimed she could sell huge amount of skincare products and failed to move even a fraction for that and had they lost, would probably have been sacked too.. I would have ignored her as too, had I been in Zoe's shoes.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Cunobelin on June 10, 2011, 07:50:54 pm
I honestly wonder whether the average Joe Public could do better!

They should do a "Charity Special" and have one of these teams against a group of random people selected off the streets, and then watch the bunfight
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jakob on June 10, 2011, 08:50:23 pm
Ah, I think this bunch is in general pretty good. I mean, how many here could actually produce a half-decent TV commercial, especially given the time constraints?
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on June 11, 2011, 07:40:52 am
Ah, I think this bunch is in general pretty good. I mean, how many here could actually produce a half-decent TV commercial, especially given the time constraints?

What?  A week* and all the facilities?  I think most of us here could.

I've done PR campaigns on similar deadlines - and without all the facilities thrown in.


*Don't believe the suggestion they only get a few days.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on June 11, 2011, 08:26:55 am
I was almost expecting a triple firing in that last episode.  (Sexist remark coming up).  I'm glad Zoe remains though because she's eye candy.  (Sorry!)

It's interesting that Nick picked up the fact that Susan has some good thinking sometimes (like the possibility that they might pay to collect rubbish rather than necessarily getting paid), though she doesn't communicate well.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on June 11, 2011, 01:06:20 pm
I was almost expecting a triple firing in that last episode.  (Sexist remark coming up).  I'm glad Zoe remains though because she's eye candy.  (Sorry!)
You're a sick man, Biggsy.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jakob on June 11, 2011, 04:29:26 pm
*Don't believe the suggestion they only get a few days.

Sorry, you're going to have to convince me otherwise.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on June 11, 2011, 06:35:36 pm
Well, they either film the episodes back to back and the thing doesn't take 12 weeks (or whatever the programme schedule is) or they have loads of time on their hands between episodes in that big house for chatting and shagging.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Cunobelin on June 11, 2011, 08:46:41 pm
A lot of this is faked.....

The "Cafe" is a film prop, all the exits are filmed at the start and the projects are an awful lot more planned that it looks.

Even to the stage of filming the final twice with both candidates winning and losing as alternative endings. Both then work for Alan Sugar until the final decision and the release of the result.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on June 12, 2011, 08:21:06 am
The final episode is always disappointing because there is no clear winner with "the most amount of money" (sic) - it's subjective.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on June 12, 2011, 05:03:29 pm
The final episode is always disappointing because there is no clear winner with "the most amount of money" (sic) - it's subjective.

I wonder whether this will change this year - I really hope so.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: geraldc on June 12, 2011, 06:06:30 pm
I think Susan will go far in the competition (final 2?), based on the fact that during the first show, someone commented on twitter that Susan was Japanese and Sir Alan immediately tweeted back saying no she was Chinese. I can't imagine Sugar would get that into someone's background unless he'd been working with them for a few months, and he'd only bother to correct someone if he thought it was important...
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on June 12, 2011, 06:27:47 pm
I think Susan will go far in the competition (final 2?), based on the fact that during the first show, someone commented on twitter that Susan was Japanese and Sir Alan immediately tweeted back saying no she was Chinese. I can't imagine Sugar would get that into someone's background unless he'd been working with them for a few months, and he'd only bother to correct someone if he thought it was important...

I'm not so sure about that.  He's a stickler for detail.

- - - -

Something I've always wondered: does Sugar get to see video footage (rushes?) of the tasks before the boardroom meetings, or is he really relying on what Nick and Karen tell him?
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on June 15, 2011, 01:47:19 pm
The Times preview today says:

"Unfortunately, only one team is able to lose"

Looks like it could be a good one!!
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on June 15, 2011, 02:36:10 pm
The Times preview today says:

"Unfortunately, only one team is able to lose"

Looks like it could be a good one!!

Bloody brilliant  :thumbsup: They are always so shit at the marketing campaigns  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: AndyK on June 15, 2011, 09:26:13 pm
How condescending can these people be towards older people? Tossers.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Riggers on June 16, 2011, 10:56:20 am
I couldn't stop myself but, every few minutes, after the decision of the team (led by Jim) for their magazine title, I kept blurting out "HIP Replacement!!!?" And it even had the strapline "out with the old … in with the new." Oh dear, oh dear. I've never seen Nick's face screwed up quite so much as last evening's episode.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on June 16, 2011, 11:16:00 am
I think Susan will go far in the competition (final 2?), based on the fact that during the first show, someone commented on twitter that Susan was Japanese and Sir Alan immediately tweeted back saying no she was Chinese. I can't imagine Sugar would get that into someone's background unless he'd been working with them for a few months, and he'd only bother to correct someone if he thought it was important...

You might be right afterall.  Susan remains.  Her business sense is actually quite decent, but gets ignored because the others haven't warmed to her.  Then she gets bullied in the boardroom.

I'm glad my Zoe didn't get chucked out (though she wasn't very good, TBH).
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Riggers on June 16, 2011, 11:24:10 am
My money's on Helen or Jim.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Hot Flatus on June 16, 2011, 11:31:47 am
I think they are grooming Jim for a big fall. He is trying to ingratiate himself with Sugar, by implying that Sugar agrees with his critique of other people. Sugar will go for this when the time comes.

I predict Jim will get mauled very badly during the interview episode.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on June 16, 2011, 11:55:12 am
I couldn't stop myself but, every few minutes, after the decision of the team (led by Jim) for their magazine title, I kept blurting out "HIP Replacement!!!?" And it even had the strapline "out with the old … in with the new." Oh dear, oh dear. I've never seen Nick's face screwed up quite so much as last evening's episode.

I could not speak when I saw that  :o

I think Lord Jim is in for the chop pretty soon. He was getting awfully personal. But Lor' Sugar I think does not mind that too much.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Hot Flatus on June 16, 2011, 12:15:25 pm
He's giving Jim enough space to make a massive target of himself so that Sugar will appear justified in the savage opprobrium that will certainly be meted out to him. Careful editing will finish the job.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Riggers on June 16, 2011, 12:19:52 pm
I couldn't stop myself but, every few minutes, after the decision of the team (led by Jim) for their magazine title, I kept blurting out "HIP Replacement!!!?" And it even had the strapline "out with the old … in with the new." Oh dear, oh dear. I've never seen Nick's face screwed up quite so much as last evening's episode.

I could not speak when I saw that  :o

I think Lord Jim is in for the chop pretty soon. He was getting awfully personal. But Lor' Sugar I think does not mind that too much.

Did make me laugh though. I'm surprised they all (apart from Susan) didn't burst out laughing when Jim mentioned he didn't want to be accused of shooting Bambi.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on June 16, 2011, 12:27:03 pm
Jim is a master calculator. He'd worked out the percentages of who to blame in the Board Room. He has the gift of the gab too, but he won't go a lot further.

If Tom had a bit more spunk he'd be in the final.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Hot Flatus on June 16, 2011, 12:32:04 pm
They will all be preparing their boardroom briefs throughout the actual task, knowing that they have high odds of having to use it.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: citoyen on June 16, 2011, 01:26:25 pm
It's "interesting" watching The Apprentice when the task is what you do for a living. It becomes all too apparent just how badly wrong they're getting it.

d.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: LEE on June 16, 2011, 04:28:03 pm
I only watch occasionally but what a Teflon-couted Greaseball that Jim is.

A pet hate of mine is people saying "No, please....let me finish" and who spend all their time interrupting others.

Classic fail - Absolutely no negotiation with client (to the obvious surprise of the rest of his team).

Classic fail - Telling Lordalan he was wrong by using the "we're both right" argument (made Lordalan smirk, the very nerve of it)

Having said all that...12 hours from start to finish is a tough ask (although "HIP Replacement" only needed 5 seconds to reject the idea out of sight).
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on June 16, 2011, 04:39:37 pm
I couldn't stop myself but, every few minutes, after the decision of the team (led by Jim) for their magazine title, I kept blurting out "HIP Replacement!!!?" And it even had the strapline "out with the old … in with the new." Oh dear, oh dear. I've never seen Nick's face screwed up quite so much as last evening's episode.

I could not speak when I saw that  :o

I think Lord Jim is in for the chop pretty soon. He was getting awfully personal. But Lor' Sugar I think does not mind that too much.

Did make me laugh though. I'm surprised they all (apart from Susan) didn't burst out laughing when Jim mentioned he didn't want to be accused of shooting Bambi.

 ;D And then Lor' Sugar says 'wasn't it bambi's mother that got shot' as an aside which both my husband and I were laughing our arses off at.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: asterix on June 16, 2011, 05:05:41 pm
If Tom had a bit more spunk he'd be in the final.

He could be the I,Claudius of the Apprentice!  I'd suggest the editors can make the candidates can appear as good or as crap as they want pretty much regardless of reality so I'm not going to write Tom off just yet.  Maybe after he's been PM..
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jakob on June 16, 2011, 05:54:56 pm
Calling people mice and cowards? I would have sacked him there and then.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on June 16, 2011, 07:25:01 pm
Jim or Sulky Zoe should have been fired.  Both teams did a terrible job though; "blow your load" FFS  ;D
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: AndyK on June 16, 2011, 08:43:44 pm
Jim or Sulky Zoe should have been fired.  Both teams did a terrible job though; "blow your load" FFS  ;D

Does anyone still buy 'lads mags'?
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on June 16, 2011, 08:47:48 pm
If Tom had a bit more spunk he'd be in the final.

He could be the I,Claudius of the Apprentice!  I'd suggest the editors can make the candidates can appear as good or as crap as they want pretty much regardless of reality so I'm not going to write Tom off just yet.  Maybe after he's been PM..

Ooh yes! I hadn't realised that Tom has been PM yet.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on June 17, 2011, 05:05:07 pm
I've just downloaded it and shall be watching it in a minute (I was at a GP meeting last night and missed it).

No spoilers please!   ;D
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: AndyK on June 17, 2011, 05:39:11 pm
Calling people mice and cowards? I would have sacked him there and then.

I wouldn't hire any of them. They all come across as rejects from The Office.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: geraldc on June 22, 2011, 09:53:32 pm
I enjoyed this weeks episode. Right team won, any of the losing side should be fired
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on June 22, 2011, 10:01:42 pm
I enjoyed this weeks episode. Right team won, any of the losing side should be fired

Agreed. Good episode tonight. One team got an incredible amount of sales. It was all about the product and pitch.

Now for Yer Fiyud.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on June 22, 2011, 11:05:17 pm
Melody should have gone - she's a nasty bit of work.  She's the reason the team failed so badly.  She lied about the outcome of the 'market research', she failed to research the main lead as she had been asked and she refused to share out the appointments.

But then again, seeing her torn to pieces during the interview stage might be amusing...
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Deano on June 22, 2011, 11:10:18 pm
She was Asian Woman of the Future, don't forget.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on June 22, 2011, 11:12:17 pm
She was Asian Woman of the Future, don't forget.

She has such a bullshit CV you know that it'll get trashed at the interview stage...  :demon:
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Deano on June 22, 2011, 11:14:29 pm
She was Asian Woman of the Future, don't forget.

She has such a bullshit CV you know that it'll get trashed at the interview stage...  :demon:

;D

As she was personally trained by Nelson Mandela and Al Gore, I can only believe that she'll make you eat those words.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: border-rider on June 22, 2011, 11:16:23 pm
....she failed to research the main lead as she had been asked and she refused to share out the appointments

My word yes. Even I knew who La Redoute are.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: citoyen on June 22, 2011, 11:40:13 pm
I predicted quite early on tonight that Leon would be fired.  :smug:

He's been a spare part once too often. However appallingly arrogant and deceitful Melody was, she did at least sell some of those ridiculous teapots. And speaking French must have worked in her favour. She'll last until the interview stage, where she and Jim will be lambs to the slaughter. Can't wait.

Natasha got off very lightly this week - her pitch to La Redoute was abysmal. Tom let himself down but he was steamrollered by Melody so didn't stand a chance. He won't survive much longer. Then there's the horrible whiny one whose name I can't even remember. One of those three will go next week, assuming at least one of them is on the losing team.

For my money, the only two candidates with a serious chance of winning are Helen and Susan. And Helen looks very much like this year's Stella.

d.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jakob on June 24, 2011, 02:07:03 am
Melody should have gone - she's a nasty bit of work.  She's the reason the team failed so badly.  

I agree...unfortunately, Tom let her get away with it.  He made all the right comments, but failed to enforce them when faced with opposition. Melody played the game perfectly and ensured that she personally wouldn't lose. Would you really want a business partner like that?.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: asterix on June 24, 2011, 10:53:36 am
IMO they keep some in just for entertainment value, and what is more entertaining than conflict?  Thus the loud ones are not necessarily winning material.

The sidekicks seem to have got a bit more input this year, during the tasks and also slightly more disposed to strong negative critiscism.  With careful editting to throw us off the scent?
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: citoyen on June 24, 2011, 11:03:41 am
It would be fun to see Jim and Melody on the same team for at least one task.

d.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Tigerrr on June 24, 2011, 02:23:06 pm
One of the contestants of a previous Apprentice presented himself as a candidate for a role at our office.  I interviewed him and it was sad.
He could not actually do anything useful at all. He had not developed any valuable skill to any level.  He talked a nonstop stream of buzzword bullshit and cliche.
Added to this he thought he was a celebrity with a media career - which frankly is probably the only thing he might be good for, if he could find some talent from somewhere.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: LEE on June 24, 2011, 04:52:04 pm
One of the contestants of a previous Apprentice presented himself as a candidate for a role at our office.  I interviewed him and it was sad.
He could not actually do anything useful at all. He had not developed any valuable skill to any level.  He talked a nonstop stream of buzzword bullshit and cliche.
Added to this he thought he was a celebrity with a media career - which frankly is probably the only thing he might be good for, if he could find some talent from somewhere.


And hence why they were selected to appear on The Apprentice.

It's not a show about finding talented Entrepreneurs, it's "Car crash" reality TV where we get to laugh at silly people and feel better about ourselves.

The talented Entrepreneurs are busy entrepreneuring.

Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on June 28, 2011, 10:42:35 pm
Helen ftw, as far as I'm concerned.

Melody is going to crash and burn very badly. It may not happen until the semi-finals though. Tom is too nice, but he's been right most of the time.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: border-rider on June 28, 2011, 11:09:55 pm
My word yes. Even I knew who La Redoute are.

I'd wager that's only because they sponsored a cycling team that Paul Sherwen once rode for.

Did they ? Passed me by :)

It's because Mrs MV once bought something from them and we were subsequently inundated with catalogues.  I'm Captain Recycling in our house, so I notice these things...
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: geraldc on June 29, 2011, 09:43:44 pm
oooh

The power of editing, they cut it so it would look like a walkover for BicMix, surely the poor reception must have been reflected at the pitches.

I don't know why I watch TV to continuously get fooled for the sake of entertainment.

I predict a multiple firing. All 3
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on June 29, 2011, 10:13:24 pm
One of the right two got fired.  Helen has won so many now, she must get a free pass if and when she finally cocks up.

I predict Jim and Helen for the final although I have no idea who would win.  Jim can do nothing but sell.  Helen's main attributes are luck and inoffensiveness, and she's very similar to last year's winner.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: citoyen on June 30, 2011, 01:55:24 am
Natasha got off very lightly this week - her pitch to La Redoute was abysmal. Tom let himself down but he was steamrollered by Melody so didn't stand a chance. He won't survive much longer. Then there's the horrible whiny one whose name I can't even remember [edit: Zoe]. One of those three will go next week, assuming at least one of them is on the losing team.

And so it comes to pass. Zoe got fired, Tom escaped by the skin of his teeth, and Natasha was pretty awful once again but lucked out by being put on Helen's team. She must have thought it was Christmas.

I'm not claiming great powers of insight, just that it's all very predictable.

d.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on June 30, 2011, 07:45:33 am
I'm convinced that they're only keeping Melody in so that they can humiliate her in the interview show, when they pull her CV to shreds and highlight her bullshitting.  Zoe was right - she's a disruptive and manipulative bitch.

It was interesting that Melody ignored Zoe as she left the boardroom...


...and this is someone who supposedly works in international relations?
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jakob on June 30, 2011, 06:51:39 pm
Melody is going down Braggs style..it's just a question of when...but Zoe was the right person to fire on this task.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Wascally Weasel on July 01, 2011, 11:51:28 pm
WTF was Zoe wearing in 'The Apprentice: You're Fired'?  She looked like she had been sideways on in a windtunnel.

When they did the meaningful bit and pointed out that Zoe had suffered two types of cancer Ms Weasel shouted "One of them was obviously cancer of the fashion sense!"

Obviously I wouldn't be so bitchy and spiteful *looks around for the lying and shameful smiley*

Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: asterix on July 02, 2011, 07:59:56 am


...and this is someone who supposedly works in international relations?

Take another look at international relations..

Anyway, it's time that Tom clambered out of his shell and showed he can kick ass with the worst of them. Or be history.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: AndyK on July 02, 2011, 08:32:12 am
It seems to me this process does not work to select the best business person, but the nastiest backstabber. Certainly not someone I would want to go into business with.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Wascally Weasel on July 02, 2011, 08:41:49 am
It seems to me this process does not work to select the best business person, but the nastiest backstabber. Certainly not someone I would want to go into business with.

I don't think it's anything more than a game show, with Alan Sugar the only real winner.

Still fun though.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on July 02, 2011, 09:05:28 am
WTF was Zoe wearing in 'The Apprentice: You're Fired'?  She looked like she had been sideways on in a windtunnel.

When they did the meaningful bit and pointed out that Zoe had suffered two types of cancer Ms Weasel shouted "One of them was obviously cancer of the fashion sense!"

Obviously I wouldn't be so bitchy and spiteful *looks around for the lying and shameful smiley*

I think she looked beautiful  :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :D
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on July 03, 2011, 06:20:07 pm
I've said it before, Biggsy, you're a sick man and you need help.  Helen, on the other hand, is Cat Deeley in a sharp suit  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on July 03, 2011, 06:50:29 pm
 :P  Well, I'm glad it's just me who can see it, then.  I can have her all to myself.  :smug:
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: geraldc on July 06, 2011, 09:18:47 pm
Looks like Susan will be out this week
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Manotea on July 06, 2011, 09:42:32 pm
He's not happy. Cancelled the treat for the winning team...
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on July 06, 2011, 09:46:15 pm
He's not happy. Cancelled the treat for the winning team...

I know  :o

I hope that Helen does not get fired.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: border-rider on July 06, 2011, 09:49:58 pm
Melody's being optimally irritating and shouty.  The others just have to sit back...
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on July 06, 2011, 10:33:00 pm
I love it that Melody got canned.  She's an evil little cow...
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on July 06, 2011, 10:56:22 pm
Tom was great in the boardroom.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Deano on July 06, 2011, 11:17:43 pm
Tom was great in the boardroom.

Showed his teeth, didn't he.

The Apprentice: You're Fired was remarkable tonight.  I sometimes wonder if they've edited the show to amplify the contestants' worst characteristics.  But Melody really is like that.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jakob on July 07, 2011, 08:26:31 am
Yay!.Helen had to be safe based on her past record, but I thought that there was a small chance that Tom might get the sack.
Had the other team lost, then Natasha would have been gone, easily, as both Jim and Susie were awesome.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Tigerrr on July 07, 2011, 02:34:17 pm
I actually watched the thing after the show last night. There was this girl on and she talked complete and utter nonsense. I think that must be this Melody then.
Astounding - I thought she was actually a bit insane in fact - some sort of delusional.  The panel were very gentle with her.
I undertsand she claims to be running some sort of global enterprise/network/consulting business from her bedroom, with Al Gore and Nelson Mandela or something.  Completely barking. She should be in care.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on July 07, 2011, 02:37:47 pm
I deliberately avoided You're Fired because I so can't stand Melody.  But perhaps I'll watch it on iPlayer if it's good car-crash stuff.   :demon:

Just remembered, they invite back fired contestants for the penultimate task.  So I might see Zoe again.  Deep joy.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: geraldc on July 07, 2011, 02:43:43 pm
They're not bringing back any contestants for the final task. I think there is a profile of the final 5, one more task next week, and then the apprentice is chosen after the interviews.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on July 07, 2011, 02:44:36 pm
Boooo!  :'(
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on July 07, 2011, 04:55:05 pm
Jim is frighteningly good at selling tat but it's all he does, really.  I'm not sure what talent Helen actually has -she's just very lucky and inoffensive.  Tom would make a good apprentice because he is an innovator, even if he's very hit and miss.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on July 07, 2011, 05:31:35 pm
I deliberately avoided You're Fired because I so can't stand Melody.  But perhaps I'll watch it on iPlayer if it's good car-crash stuff.   :demon:

Just remembered, they invite back fired contestants for the penultimate task.  So I might see Zoe again.  Deep joy.  :thumbsup:

I thought that Ruby Wax was digging the nails into Melody last night.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jakob on July 07, 2011, 05:50:54 pm
I deliberately avoided You're Fired because I so can't stand Melody.  But perhaps I'll watch it on iPlayer if it's good car-crash stuff.   :demon:

Just remembered, they invite back fired contestants for the penultimate task.  So I might see Zoe again.  Deep joy.  :thumbsup:

I thought that Ruby Wax was digging the nails into Melody last night.

Not really. She spent most the show gushing about Tom. Only the black guy was really going at her.
Oh and I still don't understand what Melody actually does. (Aside from having been trained by Gore, Tutu, et al).
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on July 07, 2011, 06:43:00 pm
I deliberately avoided You're Fired because I so can't stand Melody.  But perhaps I'll watch it on iPlayer if it's good car-crash stuff.   :demon:

Just remembered, they invite back fired contestants for the penultimate task.  So I might see Zoe again.  Deep joy.  :thumbsup:

I thought that Ruby Wax was digging the nails into Melody last night.

Not really. She spent most the show gushing about Tom. Only the black guy was really going at her.
Oh and I still don't understand what Melody actually does. (Aside from having been trained by Gore, Tutu, et al).


At the earlier point in the show she was. I don't understand what she does either. But then again I used to work for a quango which nobody really knew what it was about but it just pootled along quite merrily  :)
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on July 08, 2011, 01:30:23 pm
I deliberately avoided You're Fired because I so can't stand Melody.  But perhaps I'll watch it on iPlayer if it's good car-crash stuff.   :demon:

Just remembered, they invite back fired contestants for the penultimate task.  So I might see Zoe again.  Deep joy.  :thumbsup:

I thought that Ruby Wax was digging the nails into Melody last night.

Not really. She spent most the show gushing about Tom. Only the black guy was really going at her.
Oh and I still don't understand what Melody actually does. (Aside from having been trained by Gore, Tutu, et al).


I watched it in iPlayer.  Ruby took a series of shots at Melody - but I think she was too subtle and Melody was too thick to realise.

She really is awful.  I think the gift from teh show was a classic - what's the bet she puts it on her CV?
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on July 08, 2011, 01:48:07 pm
Seen it on iPlayer now.  Ruby Wax was heavily taking the piss out of Melody, but in the end supported her by saying she shouldn't have been fired.  Bit odd.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on July 13, 2011, 09:32:31 pm
A Mexican restaurant called Caracas.

A British pie called Columbus.

What do they teach them in these schools?

 ;D
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: andyoxon on July 13, 2011, 09:33:22 pm
You've gotta cringe...  ;D
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: AndyK on July 13, 2011, 09:38:09 pm
Susan out tonight I think.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: border-rider on July 13, 2011, 09:46:32 pm
I can't believe they didn't have a budget outline.  Even I know to do that as the first action.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Hot Flatus on July 13, 2011, 09:53:45 pm
Surely they will keep Jim in for the interviews... he's such a tool.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on July 13, 2011, 10:01:00 pm
Yay!  All the crap ones have gone except Susan.  Tom FTW, I reckon.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Hot Flatus on July 13, 2011, 10:02:23 pm
It won't be Jim.  He'll be shredded next week  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: AndyK on July 13, 2011, 10:07:46 pm
Tom FTW, I reckon.

My money's on Tom too. He's the only one who really does his sums before jumping in. I'll bet that costings document in the boardroom was Tom's.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: geraldc on July 13, 2011, 10:25:55 pm
I think Susan is in with a chance. She's run and set up her own company, Toms company was a consultancy. The other 2 have been employees, and the final is based on business plans and interviews.

Plus Susan went to the same college that returning judge Margaret left to go back to, so I'm counting on a UCL secret stitch up.

Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: asterix on July 14, 2011, 06:33:52 am
It's not like the previous shows with a job vacancy.  Given the success of the Susan/Tom combo I think both should be winners.

Oh, and Columbus should be given posthumous British citizenship and given recognition for having invented the potato before Sir Walter Raleigh.  Payback for being the first tobacco pusher.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Woofage on July 14, 2011, 08:14:40 am
Pairing Helen and Tom sealed their fate as last night's winners. Two level-headed people who just get on with the job in hand. Could have slapped both of them over the Columbus thing though ::-).

I think all of the candidates are strong and deserve to win. Oh, except Jim who will be crucified in the interviews. I'd like to see Tom win as it will be a refreshing change after all the sales and admin types that have gone before.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Riggers on July 14, 2011, 08:20:06 am
This will not come as a bolt out of the blue, but have none of you chaps been watching the only one who will actually win…




…Helen.

No contest. She stands head and shoulders above the others.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: geraldc on July 14, 2011, 08:57:18 am
Helen works for Greggs, which I guess made last nights task that much easier. That and the fact that they ripped off square pie right down to the boxes.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: LEE on July 14, 2011, 10:25:18 am
A Mexican restaurant called Caracas.

A British pie called Columbus.

What do they teach them in these schools?

 ;D

Even if they don't teach it in Schools they were both waving iPhones about, you'd think a quick "where was Columbus from?" into Google would have been sensible.

Actually I wasn't sure where Caracas was but I'm damn sure I'd have checked before using the name.  At least I knew it was a place rather than just a meaningless word (that sounded a bit like Maracas) though.

Anyone else here think those little pies looked scrummy?


I don't have a problem with them ripping off another restaurant's idea really, they only have 24 hours to do something, it's hard to come up with something new in that area (and I've never heard of Square Pie myself..living in the sticks as I do.  I still think Greggs is appropriate for a Wedding or Anniversary treat).
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on July 14, 2011, 10:31:36 am
I'm not absolutely sure Helen will win.  The final will be a good watch.

Anyone else here think those little pies looked scrummy?

Yeah.  Not original though.  The fast-food chain Eat does pies in boxes: Eat. (http://www.eat.co.uk/pages/Pies_1.php)
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Woofage on July 14, 2011, 10:53:16 am
Even if they don't teach it in Schools they were both waving iPhones about, you'd think a quick "where was Columbus from?" into Google would have been sensible.

Mrs Woofage made that comment to me, but I have never seen anyone on the Apprentice look anything up on the 'net. Maybe internet access is banned?

I agree with your comment about originality. It's hard to do this under normal conditions so you can't blame them for doing what they did in only 24 hours or so.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: AndyK on July 14, 2011, 11:00:31 am
Anyone who's seen Gregory's Girl knows Caracas is in Venezuela, and that the women outnumber the men eight to one, it's a well known fact... :)
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: border-rider on July 14, 2011, 11:08:12 am
I'd have called it 22/7 rather than My Py ;)
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Manotea on July 14, 2011, 11:24:36 am
Anyone who's seen Gregory's Girl knows Caracas is in Venezuela, and that the women outnumber the men eight to one, it's a well known fact... :)

Caracas is also one of the most violent cities in the world.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on July 14, 2011, 05:32:03 pm
I'd have called it 22/7 rather than My Py ;)
I briefly thought of Piedophile but it probably wouldn't have worked.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jakob on July 14, 2011, 06:47:17 pm
Jim screwed up, but then he also saved Natasha's arse last week (and Natasha has been mostly useless the last 4-5 weeks), so I think it was the right choice. Susan did relatively well and *is* slowly maturing.

Tom is brilliant. He thinks of the details, he does the numbers AND he's very creative. While Helen is very organized, I haven't seen any real ability to create, at least not in comparison to Tom.

Next week should be fun :)
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on July 14, 2011, 06:49:35 pm
Jim screwed up, but then he also saved Natasha's arse last week (and Natasha has been mostly useless the last 4-5 weeks), so I think it was the right choice. Susan did relatively well and *is* slowly maturing.
Yes, she'll be almost 14 by the last show.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: LEE on July 15, 2011, 03:21:44 pm
I'd have called it 22/7 rather than My Py ;)
I briefly thought of Piedophile but it probably wouldn't have worked.

<screwsfaceupandrollseyeslikenickhewer>
 :facepalm:
</screwsfaceupandrollseyeslikenickhewer>
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on July 15, 2011, 05:12:29 pm
It's best when he purses his lips as if he's just eaten a bucket of sloes marinated in lemon juice.

Two bizarre facts about Mr. Hewer:

1. He was born in Swindon
2. He votes Labour (but then, so does Lordsugar)
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on July 17, 2011, 01:30:35 pm
A reminder that the final is tonight, 9 - 11 pm.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Hot Flatus on July 17, 2011, 01:47:48 pm
Thanks for that. I thought it was wednesday!!
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on July 17, 2011, 01:57:10 pm
Excellent! That means we can watch it before being northwards.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on July 17, 2011, 09:15:56 pm
Interviews!

Jim is falling flat.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: little miss mac on July 17, 2011, 09:17:30 pm
"Tell me about yourself and don't talk to me in cliches"

"With me, you get exactly what it says on the tin"

Knob.

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: geraldc on July 17, 2011, 09:35:25 pm
This is horrible viewing. Watching people take a massive kicking.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: AndyK on July 17, 2011, 09:36:37 pm
Four cars for four people. Not very environmentally friendly.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: geraldc on July 17, 2011, 09:38:27 pm
Well the film crew have to ride along too.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: her_welshness on July 17, 2011, 09:46:57 pm
I cannot see a winner here  ???
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: geraldc on July 17, 2011, 09:50:32 pm
I'm still backing Susan
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: border-rider on July 17, 2011, 09:54:08 pm
Tom

He's got a product & a plan but no drive, which is what AS has.  He & AS would be a decent team.

The other 3 don't have either products or real business ideas

Jim's a bullshitter & Helen is a good worker but not a creator or leader
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on July 17, 2011, 10:13:04 pm
Lordsugar finally gets one right  :thumbsup:

Helen shot herself in the foot with that quick and very transparent decision to open a chain of bakery stores  ::-)
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: AndyK on July 17, 2011, 10:19:20 pm


Helen shot herself in the foot with that quick and very transparent decision to open a chain of bakery stores  ::-)

Maybe she got her lunch from Greggs...
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Regulator on July 17, 2011, 10:28:08 pm
I think he should have thrown them a googlie...


...and given the investment to Tom - but hired Helen to work along side him.  She'd keep Tom's creativity in check and keep him focused.  Then Lord Sugar would get the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: geraldc on July 17, 2011, 10:31:31 pm
The Apprentice seems to have become the dragons den. The success of Reggae Reggae sauce must mean that any product launched on tv absolutely coins it in.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: border-rider on July 17, 2011, 10:35:09 pm
I think he should have thrown them a googlie...


...and given the investment to Tom - but hired Helen to work along side him.  She'd keep Tom's creativity in check and keep him focused.  Then Lord Sugar would get the best of both worlds.

yes, that's what we were half expecting also.  Probably a better business decision if he had.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: geraldc on July 17, 2011, 10:42:26 pm
It seems that they're planning to leverage Tom's success with Walmart, and extend his nailcare range.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Woofage on July 18, 2011, 08:19:55 am
I think he should have thrown them a googlie...


...and given the investment to Tom - but hired Helen to work along side him.  She'd keep Tom's creativity in check and keep him focused.  Then Lord Sugar would get the best of both worlds.

I had a similar thought too.

I'm really pleased Tom won. His idea was risky, but at least he had one :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on July 18, 2011, 12:01:29 pm
The final got 10 million viewers.

Yes, Tom & Sugar should employ Helen.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on July 18, 2011, 06:30:30 pm
Why did the Englishman say "elevator"?
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jakob on July 18, 2011, 07:14:27 pm
Helens business plan was naff, Susan's unrealistic and Jim's, while not a bad idea, more a philanthropic arrangement than a business.

I thought that there was a small chance he might go with Jim's plan (E-learning will become a lot bigger in the near future), but once he was sacked, I was fairly confident that Tom would win.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: border-rider on July 18, 2011, 07:27:59 pm
Why did the Englishman say "elevator"?

Because he was a bit of a tit ?

I was cringing at that "imagine you're in an elevator" schtick  :sick:
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: LEE on July 18, 2011, 07:30:07 pm
What was the point of all the weeks of trials if it all came down to a good/bad business plan?

That should have been a test in week #1.

Helen's business plan didn't become bad over 12 weeks, it was a bad plan in week #1.

Helen would have won the show using the old format (looking for an assistant rather than a business venture) but she was obviously doomed from the start.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Manotea on July 18, 2011, 07:31:04 pm
Helens business plan was naff, Susan's unrealistic and Jim's, while not a bad idea, more a philanthropic arrangement than a business.

I thought that there was a small chance he might go with Jim's plan (E-learning will become a lot bigger in the near future), but once he was sacked, I was fairly confident that Tom would win.

Alas, Helen fell for Sugar's schtick about 'doing what you know' and decided what she knew most about was being a p.a.

Why did the Englishman say "elevator"?

Because he was a bit of a tit ?

I was cringing at that "imagine you're in an elevator" schtick  :sick:

It could have been worse. He could have stood next to them and farted.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on July 18, 2011, 07:38:31 pm
What was the point of all the weeks of trials if it all came down to a good/bad business plan?

Entertainment.

It didn't really come down to the business plan because Tom's magic chair plan isn't being used.  Sugar went with his gut instinct.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on July 18, 2011, 11:05:52 pm
The elevator pitch.

Not to be tried in a tower block in Swindon.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on October 09, 2011, 06:15:27 pm
Things did not go well for last year's winner, Stella Engish (http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/2011/10/09/lord-sugar-tells-apprentice-winner-stella-english-you-re-fired-115875-23476263/).

What a waste of all the stress she went through to get onto the show and do it.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on October 09, 2011, 06:39:53 pm
She forgot the first rule.  No matter for whom you work, you only really work for yourself.  There's no loyalty given or received these days.  Of course Sugar is going to cut them all loose after a year unless they turn out to be shit-hot; you don't pay £100,000 for a project manager unless they are a specialist in that discipline and with a cast-iron track record in rescuing failed projects.  For an all-rounder in that role, it's silly money.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Rhys W on October 09, 2011, 09:02:30 pm
Seeing ex-barrowboy Alan Sugar popping up on BBC News 24 last week to tell us what an icon Steve Jobs was in the computer industry was like me telling them "that Lance Armstrong, he was pretty good at the Tour de France, wasn't he?"
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Jaded on October 10, 2011, 12:08:01 am
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: rogerzilla on October 10, 2011, 07:31:45 pm
Sugar's big mistake was not making the PCW in glossy white.
Title: Re: The Apprentice, 9pm tonight (10th May)
Post by: Biggsy on October 12, 2011, 06:33:39 pm
I'll be giving this a miss, probably:

Young Apprentice will start on MONDAY 24th October at 9pm BBC-1 for 8 weeks.