Yet Another Cycling Forum

Off Topic => The Pub => Arts and Entertainment => Topic started by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on June 03, 2011, 01:59:27 pm

Title: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on June 03, 2011, 01:59:27 pm
I have been watching this occasionaly so haven't seen all the episodes.

It seems to be an OK programme so far.

I think I will invest in the box set of DVD's when they emerge.

One question though, how does Sean Bean manage to get cast as hailing from 'oop north' even in a fantasy world?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mr Larrington on June 03, 2011, 02:14:28 pm
See also the Lord Of The Rings films.  Boromir quite clearly from Sheffield.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: clarion on June 03, 2011, 02:15:46 pm
Most planets have a North </Christopher Eccleston>
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Regulator on June 03, 2011, 03:15:58 pm
I have been watching this occasionaly so haven't seen all the episodes.

It seems to be an OK programme so far.

I think I will invest in the box set of DVD's when they emerge.

One question though, how does Sean Bean manage to get cast as hailing from 'oop north' even in a fantasy world?

We've downloaded all the episodes.  Excellent series.

Mr Bean is still as toothsome as ever, if not as young as his Sharpe days...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tourist Tony on June 06, 2011, 12:46:27 am
I started to read the books years ago, and stopped quite quickly. I rather like George R R R R R R Martin's style, but this didn;t work for me.

Of course, having no television, if I have completely the wrong story.....
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: andygates on June 06, 2011, 07:34:34 am
We've downloaded all the episodes.  Excellent series.

Mr Bean is still as toothsome as ever, if not as young as his Sharpe days...

I had a friend over who was bemoaning the lack of Bean on telly, so I had to point this out to her.  There was droolygrinding.   ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: urban_biker on June 08, 2011, 11:33:01 am
I started to read the books years ago, and stopped quite quickly. I rather like George R R R R R R Martin's style, but this didn;t work for me.

Of course, having no television, if I have completely the wrong story.....

I'm the same - I'm an avid reader of Fantasy stuff but I just couldn't read his books. I watched the first episode of the TV series and felt the same.

Bored bored bored.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: LindaG on June 08, 2011, 11:42:19 am
Hm, my son loves the books, I borrowed them and thought they were pretty good, of their kind.  I forgot this series was coming on, I meant to watch it  ::-)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Wascally Weasel on June 08, 2011, 12:11:34 pm
I have read the books and although I reasonably enjoyed the first one I did so less and less as the series continued.  I did think it started well and I had high hopes for it.

What I originally liked was the setting, some of the ideas and the apparent lack of magic (which I have always mostly thought as the poor quality fantasy writing get out clause/deus ex machina rather than anything of real interest).

It just seemed more and more repetitive as it continued and less and less interesting as it went on (and on and on)*.  My personal feeling is that Martin won’t actually finish it and quite frankly I’m not bothered.  I felt that he had written himself in to a (quite dull) corner in the last book and I just don’t care about any of the characters anymore.  It’s an overly drawn out soap opera punctuated with battles.

I haven’t watched the series but if I did I reckon I would probably like it at first but depending on how faithful it is I would probably lose interest – I think this is the sort of project that has ‘Cancelled in series three’ written all over it anyway so I’m reluctant to invest time in it in case it is.

People I know are divided on their opinion on the novels, mostly on gender lines.  Most of my male friends (that would self select as fantasy readers) are either ambivalent or hate it, wheras a greater proportion of my female friends that are also fantasy readers are big fans.

I don’t know why this is as I didn’t get the impression that it was written to appeal more to female readers.  Perhaps male readers are put off by all of the ‘good’ male characters being so bloody stupidly trusting although I can’t understand why men would feel any differently about this than female readers.  I’ve never understood why some authors whose writings appear gender neutral in appeal seem to attract a larger male or female fanbase.


*I don’t know if this is because I’m older. When I was a teenager the prospect of reading book after book in a series was an exciting thing – never mind the quality, see the page count (I even read stuff like Terry Brooks and David Eddings).  Now I wish people could write decent, self contained individual novels.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Biggsy on June 08, 2011, 12:18:15 pm
I prefer a more highbrow game of thrones.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivPwPJnGAZ4&NR=1
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: LindaG on June 08, 2011, 12:18:21 pm
One thing I noticed about the books -  there was an awful lot of rape going on.

Now, I know rape is a feature of war, but really.  Is there any need?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on June 08, 2011, 12:28:59 pm
Before I saw the first episode, I was really looking forward to it. Then I read several comments from separate sources saying that the first ten minutes of the first episode were brilliant, then it went steeply downhill from there. I thought that sounded a bit weird, but then I watched the first episode and it proved to be spot on. The first ten minutes of the first episode are amazing. If the rest of the series had been like that, it would have been essential viewing.

In fact, it's bog-standard teenage boy wank fantasy material. Borderline misogynistic. Probably not even borderline, actually. As Lindagordinho says, some of the material is in extremely dubious taste and gratuitously so.

I tried to give it a chance but I knew I'd had enough when a character was introduced as "The Lord of the King's Coin" or something like that. So he's an accountant? I'm quite tolerant of pompous fantasy nonsense, but that was a cringe too far for me.

Peter Dinklage is brilliant though - it's almost worth watching just for him. Almost.

d.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kim on June 08, 2011, 01:01:28 pm
I've heard this described as "Babylon 5 on horses".  I may therefore have to make an effort to watch it, as I'm not normally into this fantasy stuff.  Or horses.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Wascally Weasel on June 08, 2011, 01:24:02 pm
I've heard this described as "Babylon 5 on horses".  I may therefore have to make an effort to watch it, as I'm not normally into this fantasy stuff.  Or horses.

I didn’t get that from the books and I *liked* Babylon 5.  It is of course entirely possible that the series adaptation has made it more like that though.

Since as you know the main B5 story arc was basically Lord of the Rings in Space, I can see why people might make that B5 connection about GoT but it isn’t to me.  It’s the War of the Roses with added dragons (and a construct where even though the ‘good’ side is incredibly stupid and the ‘evil’ side so terribly clever it’s still going on and an and on forever).

Personally I think I may have oversold it  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Regulator on June 08, 2011, 11:28:40 pm
GoT doesn't really 'take off' until the second and third episodes.  But I'm enjoying it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: andygates on July 09, 2011, 05:46:36 pm
Megamap!

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/07/westeros-large.jpg) (http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/07/westeros-large.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on July 09, 2011, 11:28:01 pm
Is that some fucker harpooning a Narwhal top right of that map Andy?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kim on February 09, 2012, 10:21:11 pm
Well I watched it.  It was rather good television (I was, admittedly, hooked by the opening sequence), but it's no Babylon 5.  I suspect it may have peaked at the end of S1, but will probably watch S2 to confirm.


(Am now even more baffled by comparisons to Daenerys Targaryen than ever...)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Frere on February 26, 2012, 04:52:51 pm
Just been notified by Amazon that the Blu Ray box set is on its way and should arrive tomorrow. Looking forward to it, its rated 9.4 on imdb.com, which is the barometer I use for films & tv.

Frere
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on February 29, 2012, 04:05:01 pm
GoT doesn't really 'take off' until the second and third episodes.  But I'm enjoying it.

I've heard this from a few sources now so I may give it another go.

Also, I'm invited to the DVD launch party tonight and I've heard rumours that both Sean Bean and Peter Dinklage will be there, along with various other cast members. And probably copious quantities of flagons of mead and buxom wenches. Oh yes.  :thumbsup:

d.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Frere on February 29, 2012, 05:37:30 pm
Devoured the box set in 2 sittings. Loved it. Roll on the second series !

Frere
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kathy on February 29, 2012, 07:10:37 pm
I thought the boxed set wasn't released 'til next month, or is that just the Blu-ray?

Anyway, I've not seen any of the tv series, but I've recently discovered the books. I'm finding them kinda absorbing. I like the fact that, for all it's set in a fantasy world with dragons and magic, one hardly ever sees these things and the focus of the plot is on the people and the power games. I also like the variety of perspectives - it means that someone who is *clearly* the Bad Guy can tell his version of events, and lead you to realise that everyone is a little bit black, but no-one is truly evil.

On the down-side, yes, it's a bit rapey. On the one hand, rape is and always has been prevalent in war, and whilst some of the rape scenes are a bit gratuitous, I didn't feel they came close to the levels of Wilbur Smith or Bernard Cornwall. On the other hand, notice how the Named Characters and "good" girls (and boys) don't get raped?
(click to show/hide)

On the whole, I am finding them a diverting read. Some bits are a bit slow and tedious (like the whole of book 2), but generally the variety of narrators helps keep the pace up.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kathy on February 29, 2012, 07:15:50 pm
Megamap!

(http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/07/westeros-large.jpg) (http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/8/2011/07/westeros-large.jpg)

I prefer this: http://imperatriceete.tumblr.com/post/8373472805
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 11, 2013, 11:17:23 am
MrsC and I are watching this atm.

I'm enjoying it; there are some truly brill characters (Peter Dinklage, the eunuch, and many more).

The 'prostitutes are all happy giggling women with boobs bouncing in front of the camera' meme is pissing me off mightily.  That plus the 'women love a strong man who takes them hard from behind'. Oh FFS.

Some of the fight scenes are very very good. Oddly I approve of fighting being shown as bloody, disfiguring and messy.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on February 11, 2013, 11:48:12 am
The sex scenes are fairly rapey, which is a shame because aside from that, there are some pretty strong female characters; Catelyn Stark, Daenerys Targaryen to name two. These are developed much more in S2.

S1 is visually stunning on Blu-Ray, and I'll be snaffling up S2 on 9th March.

Boab & I love it. I guess she has to put her feminist leanings to one side during the more challenging moments. That, or she seethes very quietly so I haven't noticed  ;).

Oh, and we can't wait for Joffrey to get what's coming to him, little f*cker...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on February 11, 2013, 11:54:12 am
Oh, and we can't wait for Joffrey to get what's coming to him, little f*cker...

Aye, a Little ShitTM and no mistake.

Nature or nurture though, Ma and Uncle are a little lacking in Moral Fibre in my eye.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on February 11, 2013, 12:23:04 pm
I've read these novels since they first came out (I even have a first edition of the first book in hard back - rare and valuable apparently) - quite a wait between books five and six I have to say - (like seven years!  >:()  The trouble with the TV series is that it is currently massively outpacing the rate at which the books get written.

Series three should really set some people's fires alight, some good stuff happens there.  ;D

I'm quite surprised by the comment about main characters avoiding death/rape - er... if there's one thing that George R. R. Martin is not afraid of, it is hacking to bits - with a good dose of rape and pillage - any character you care to think of - even really really major ones.  Hold on to your hats - NOONE is safe in Ice and Fire. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fboab on February 11, 2013, 01:03:08 pm
Oh, and we can't wait for Joffrey to get what's coming to him, little f*cker...

Also Theon Greyjoy: Utter PeenTM Andy Gates Every Psychology students' wet dreamTM No1Daughter
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 11, 2013, 01:28:02 pm
Oh, and we can't wait for Joffrey to get what's coming to him, little f*cker...

Also Theon Greyjoy: Utter PeenTM Andy Gates Every Psychology students' wet dreamTM No1Daughter
Oh yes, him. Master "It's-a-women-let-me-screw-it & I have a wobbly chin because I'm pathetic".
Got to hand it to the actor, great performance.

How about favourite characters?

MrsC is fond of Arya, the youngest Stark girl and Brom, Tyrion's swordsman.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on February 11, 2013, 01:37:05 pm
On the other hand, notice how the Named Characters and "good" girls (and boys) don't get raped?
Don't rely on it being maintained all the way through.  From what I remember of the books, pretty nasty things happen to an awful lot of the leading characters, whether 'good' or otherwise.

BTW, round numbers don't mean that anyone was counting, just that someone had a subjective impression of a large number. Fifty could be anything in double figures. Twenty-six would mean someone counted.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on February 11, 2013, 01:40:57 pm
Tyrion gets all the best lines in the TV series, and the role is played really well by Peter Dinklage.

I have a lot of respect for John Snow. Everyone dumps on him, and he soaks it up. I'm kind of waiting for him to go postal at some point.

I like Brom too. He gets better as S2 progresses.

Sansa gets on my wick, which is probably really unfair because she too has been dumped on from a height.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kathy on February 11, 2013, 01:45:09 pm
On the other hand, notice how the Named Characters and "good" girls (and boys) don't get raped?
Don't rely on it being maintained all the way through.  From what I remember of the books, pretty nasty things happen to an awful lot of the leading characters, whether 'good' or otherwise.

Oh, nasty things happen to nice people, I'll grant you, but I was specifically looking at the "good girls don't get raped" trope, and that holds true throughout all the books (I've read all the series so far published) as far as I can recall. I don't expect Arya or Sansa to ever be violated. Also,

(click to show/hide)

Quote
BTW, round numbers don't mean that anyone was counting, just that someone had a subjective impression of a large number. Fifty could be anything in double figures. Twenty-six would mean someone counted.

True, it was just that both the omniscient narrator and a character used the same terminology which gave the impression of TMI.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on February 11, 2013, 02:07:09 pm


Oh, nasty things happen to nice people, I'll grant you, but I was specifically looking at the "good girls don't get raped" trope, and that holds true throughout all the books (I've read all the series so far published) as far as I can recall. I don't expect Arya or Sansa to ever be violated.

(click to show/hide)



Spoily reply within the spoiler there - read at your own risk.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on February 11, 2013, 04:10:09 pm


Oh, nasty things happen to nice people, I'll grant you, but I was specifically looking at the "good girls don't get raped" trope, and that holds true throughout all the books (I've read all the series so far published) as far as I can recall. I don't expect Arya or Sansa to ever be violated.

(click to show/hide)



Spoily reply within the spoiler there - read at your own risk.

Arya Stark's got plot armour - or rather GRRM's other half has apparently threatened severe consequences if he kills off her favourite character...  ;)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 15, 2013, 08:54:33 am
Halfway through season 2.

Tonks, oh my goodness, you aren't a shy girl, are you?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: dasmoth on March 16, 2013, 11:11:42 pm
If the beautifully-modelled credits are just a little bit too much (includes a few season 2 spoilers):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPgIIB67bw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fPgIIB67bw)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Contributoer on July 04, 2013, 08:23:24 am
Compelling and complex miniseries about a mythical land and its various, competing kingdoms and characters. Based on the books which are even more detailed than the miniseries, which does a fair job of sorting the storyline out. Sex, violence, knights, beautiful women, love, battles, monsters, dragons, intrigue, everything one might want in a medieval saga. I usually do not like fake ancient kingdom films or stories, but this one is great, an exception. The acting is fine, the costumes beautiful, recreation of the kingdoms brilliant and the suspense thrilling. The viewer is left longing for more! We are caught up in the personal lives of the characters and care about them. But just as you are rooting for a particular favorite, he or she may be suddenly and violently eliminated. More twists and turns than one can imagine. Great fun and riveting action.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on July 04, 2013, 12:52:17 pm
(click to show/hide)

From now on I will refer to bobb as my-sun-and-stars, or MSAS.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on July 04, 2013, 01:53:32 pm
(click to show/hide)

From now on I will refer to bobb as my-sun-and-stars, or MSAS.
;D   Oh hooked and reeled in I believe.  Don't get too fond of anyone    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on July 04, 2013, 02:00:40 pm
From now on I will refer to bobb as my-sun-and-stars, or MSAS.

Is he going to grow a pony tail and a plaited beard too? Fboab offered to do Bairdy's beard in a Dothraki style when she opened small hairdressing franchise at an audax control recently. He declined - can't imagine why, Bikey Mikey was very pleased with his new pony tail.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on July 04, 2013, 02:39:46 pm
(click to show/hide)

From now on I will refer to bobb as my-sun-and-stars, or MSAS.

I've just got to the end of my Season 1 box set too.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jasmine on July 04, 2013, 03:05:55 pm
(click to show/hide)

From now on I will refer to bobb as my-sun-and-stars, or MSAS.

To be fair, there's a simple way of telling that would happen...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on July 04, 2013, 03:18:53 pm
(click to show/hide)

From now on I will refer to bobb as my-sun-and-stars, or MSAS.

To be fair, there's a simple way of telling that would happen...

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on July 04, 2013, 03:59:38 pm
(click to show/hide)

From now on I will refer to bobb as my-sun-and-stars, or MSAS.

To be fair, there's a simple way of telling that would happen...

(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on July 04, 2013, 04:21:05 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on July 04, 2013, 04:35:29 pm
Yes he's Odysseus in Troy - no chance of death there - he's got 10 years of wandering to do after that.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on July 04, 2013, 06:15:16 pm
Is he going to grow a pony tail and a plaited beard too?
Absolutely not.

Just finished book one. I want book two now! So far the most annoying characters are Lysa Tully and Robin Arryn.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on July 04, 2013, 06:25:10 pm
Can I ask how you found the end?  I thought it was an amazing end to the book and *really* drove me onto the second.

But I know people who were unimpressed with the same ending in the TV series  ???
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on July 04, 2013, 07:26:18 pm
Um. I like Daenerys, I think she's awesome. I have concerns about dragons though.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on July 04, 2013, 08:13:33 pm
Well yes, many will have 'concerns' about them :-D
Isn't that the point? :-D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on July 04, 2013, 08:36:25 pm
Yeah, but I have concerns about them as a plot device.  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on July 04, 2013, 08:56:45 pm
Well I shall reccomend that you rafo, which you seem happy to do so happy reading
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on July 07, 2013, 12:04:15 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXSSBu9uKrM&feature=share (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXSSBu9uKrM&feature=share)


If you've seen all of season one, this a must-watch. The most incredible fan video/spoof.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on July 07, 2013, 04:46:02 pm
That. Is brilliant!  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on July 07, 2013, 05:55:50 pm
 ;D ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on July 08, 2013, 08:15:54 am
Some people have far too much spare time on their hands ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on July 10, 2013, 11:24:20 am
(click to show/hide)

From now on I will refer to bobb as my-sun-and-stars, or MSAS.

To be fair, there's a simple way of telling that would happen...

(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
Yes, & don't forget
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kathy on July 10, 2013, 03:23:14 pm
I need to make a fictional set of data to check that something at work will run properly when calculating pensions for widows and orphans.

Rather than have "Life 1, Life 2" etc, I have been mining GOT for names. ;D

I'm just wondering whether I should label this file "Spoilers" in case anyone else using it doesn't know who dies. ;)

Incidentally, is there anyone else who I'm missing? I've got:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: clarion on July 10, 2013, 03:24:47 pm
Our dummy patients tend to live on Mount Olympus.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kathy on July 10, 2013, 03:27:15 pm
Previously I've had a data set consisting of Vasquez, Hicks, Hudson, Apone, Dietrich, Gorman, Ferro, Drake and Spunkmeyer. Unfortunately their life expectancy wasn't good.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fboab on July 10, 2013, 03:40:41 pm
Incidentally, is there anyone else who I'm missing?

(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kathy on July 10, 2013, 03:43:38 pm
I need to make a fictional set of data to check that something at work will run properly when calculating pensions for widows and orphans.

Rather than have "Life 1, Life 2" etc, I have been mining GOT for names. ;D

I'm just wondering whether I should label this file "Spoilers" in case anyone else using it doesn't know who dies. ;)

Incidentally, is there anyone else who I'm missing? I've got:

(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fboab on July 10, 2013, 03:48:59 pm
I added
(click to show/hide)
too.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on July 10, 2013, 03:49:43 pm
I need to make a fictional set of data to check that something at work will run properly when calculating pensions for widows and orphans.

Rather than have "Life 1, Life 2" etc, I have been mining GOT for names. ;D

I'm just wondering whether I should label this file "Spoilers" in case anyone else using it doesn't know who dies. ;)

Incidentally, is there anyone else who I'm missing? I've got:

(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Not sure if I am understanding this properly but
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on July 10, 2013, 05:43:08 pm

(click to show/hide)

Based on a quick skim through the appendices of ADWD and A Wiki of Ice and Fire (http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Main_Page)*...

(click to show/hide)

* A handy reference, though obviously full of spoilers if you haven't read all the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kathy on July 12, 2013, 01:59:30 pm
Making up postcodes for them has been fun too. Obviously, I've put the Baratheons in SW1A 1AA, and I put Daenerys in CT17 9BU (I figure it's what she wants!). Where would you place the Arryns?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fboab on July 12, 2013, 02:45:17 pm
DE15 0DT
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on July 22, 2013, 06:06:32 pm
Managed to borrow the set from a colleague. Don't expect to see me here for a while!  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on July 24, 2013, 12:50:37 pm
About a hundred pages into the second book and desperate for Joffrey to get his comeuppance.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on July 24, 2013, 03:45:03 pm
About a hundred pages into the second book and desperate for Joffrey to get his comeuppance.

One thing these books teach us. Patience. :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on July 24, 2013, 04:05:19 pm
About a hundred pages into the second book and desperate for Joffrey to get his comeuppance.

One thing these books teach us. Patience. :)

Indeed. Revenge - or karma -  is a dish best served cold.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on July 30, 2013, 09:56:15 am
Just an FYI - the Kindle version of the first GoT book is reduced to 99p on Amazon UK today.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on July 30, 2013, 12:17:00 pm
Just finished the second book. George RR Martin, you are a git.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on August 10, 2013, 12:15:52 pm
Finished book 3.


Hodor.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on August 11, 2013, 11:24:09 am
Slow down - you'll end up in the frustrating waiting game like the rest of us.  Six years between two of the books there was. :o
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PaulF on August 11, 2013, 11:27:38 am
Finished book 3.


Hodor.

The whole of it or just part 1? I've just started Book 3 part 2, had it on order from the library but couldn't wait so bought it as an e-book!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on August 11, 2013, 12:06:40 pm
Hodor.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on August 12, 2013, 09:15:37 am
Oh my god the wedding!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on August 12, 2013, 09:20:38 am
You should put that in spoilers, not everyone has read or watched everything and I don't think anyone should have that particular little nugget spoiled.

Having said that.   Which one? :demon: ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on August 13, 2013, 09:41:17 am
(click to show/hide)
Time to throw the book across the room.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on August 13, 2013, 11:24:51 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on August 13, 2013, 11:40:02 am
(click to show/hide)
Time to throw the book across the room.

(click to show/hide)

Actually...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on August 13, 2013, 12:33:12 pm
Maybe so, but did you spot it in advance or in a reread? I know I didn't

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on August 13, 2013, 01:30:11 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on August 13, 2013, 02:43:57 pm
(click to show/hide)
That's not the bloody point.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Wascally Weasel on August 13, 2013, 03:44:58 pm
(click to show/hide)
That's not the bloody point.
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on August 13, 2013, 06:15:08 pm
Or just gnawed a bit, to make him messy.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on August 14, 2013, 10:13:56 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on August 14, 2013, 01:43:46 pm
Well, sort of.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on August 15, 2013, 10:18:37 pm
I keep waiting for
(click to show/hide)
to turn up again but no joy so far.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: bumper on August 29, 2013, 08:24:52 pm
I'm now up to date and awaiting season 4.

Addicted!

There's rumors that they may not follow the plot from the books because there's a few vague bits and a few characters aren't involved for a book or two.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on August 29, 2013, 09:55:10 pm
Yeah that's totally true - in season 3 the bits of Theon Greyjoy were from the latest book!


The original book 4 (iirc) was divided into two as it became too long.  Hence half the POV characters were missing from each and both books run concurrently.


It it worrying for us that read these things* that the TV series pace far outstrips the rate of book writing...






*This is the royal "us" obviously ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on August 29, 2013, 10:13:29 pm
I finished A Feast for Crows and I'm waiting for my colleague to get his books back from whoever has borrowed them so I can borrow the next ones.

I really hope
(click to show/hide)
isn't really dead because I want
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fboab on August 29, 2013, 10:18:09 pm
Eccentrica, I'm shocked and appalled.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on August 30, 2013, 08:09:05 am
I think it would be good for him though  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on September 11, 2013, 01:18:06 pm
Half way through Dreams and Dust, and really quite bored. Too many new characters I don't care about, too much not happening, too much focus on the boring one, no sex, no fighting, just a lot of blahblahblah.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on September 11, 2013, 02:13:12 pm
What's Dreams and Dust?  :-\
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on September 11, 2013, 02:17:16 pm
Ah right (comes back from looking it up) Dance with Dragons part 1.  I do these in hardback y'see.


Yes, Dance became far too long so he (GRRM) divvied it up between two books so you lose half of the PoV characters for a while - they return in the next book with the ones from DwD missing (mostly at least in both cases).  Still some good stuff in there though and Tyrion is hardly the most boring character...  You're going to be up with us all soon!


Tis true that Dance is probably my least favourite in the series so far though.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Canardly on September 11, 2013, 07:52:00 pm
Read the first four books and it all became a bit samey. Lost interest.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on September 16, 2013, 12:44:48 pm
I have about 80 pages to go in After the Feast. I was most annoyed when it was time to get off the bus this morning just as
(click to show/hide)
Still hoping
(click to show/hide)
comes back.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 16, 2013, 12:59:19 pm
Eccentrica, I'm shocked and appalled.

(click to show/hide)

There is an alternative point of view
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fboab on September 16, 2013, 01:24:37 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on September 16, 2013, 01:37:49 pm
Yeah, I know, but out of all the dozens and hundreds of characters, they're the only two I want that kind of ending for!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 16, 2013, 01:41:52 pm
(click to show/hide)

yebbut - some of us men are delicate little romantic flowers, y'know
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on September 16, 2013, 09:50:49 pm
Finished!

*sits down with crossed arms to wait for next book*
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on September 17, 2013, 12:40:14 pm
GRRM has a few excerpts that can be read  here http://www.georgerrmartin.com/excerpt-from-the-winds-of-winter/ (http://www.georgerrmartin.com/excerpt-from-the-winds-of-winter/)


I REALLY wouldn't hold your breath though.  :(


Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on November 17, 2013, 05:44:27 pm
The sex scenes are fairly rapey, which is a shame because aside from that, there are some pretty strong female characters; Catelyn Stark, Daenerys Targaryen to name two. These are developed much more in S2.

...
Boab & I love it. I guess she has to put her feminist leanings to one side during the more challenging moments. That, or she seethes very quietly so I haven't noticed  ;).
I was thinking a bit about this today. I am happy that all the major female characters are different. Cersei, Catelyn, Lyssa, Sansa, Arya, Brienne, Ygritte, Daenerys - they're all very different - different strengths, weaknesses, skills, morals, choices. They're not just virgin//whore/good/bad/strong/weak. They're as varied and three dimensional as the male characters, and I count that as feminist win. And the rapiness - well, I think it's depicted fairly. It's clear that some of the male characters rape when they can, particularly when sacking a castle or a city (which, let's face it, is not a stretch of the imagination), but not all of the men rape, and several of them condemn it outright and punish rapists when they can. It's not shown as natural behaviour for men, it's shown as a choice some make because they want to do it, not because they couldn't help themselves. I think the only way to improve on that is to have no rape at all, which would make for a less gruesome but possibly less realistic story.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kim on November 17, 2013, 05:54:32 pm
I was thinking a bit about this today. I am happy that all the major female characters are different. Cersei, Catelyn, Lyssa, Sansa, Arya, Brienne, Ygritte, Daenerys - they're all very different - different strengths, weaknesses, skills, morals, choices. They're not just virgin//whore/good/bad/strong/weak. They're as varied and three dimensional as the male characters, and I count that as feminist win. And the rapiness - well, I think it's depicted fairly. It's clear that some of the male characters rape when they can, particularly when sacking a castle or a city (which, let's face it, is not a stretch of the imagination), but not all of the men rape, and several of them condemn it outright and punish rapists when they can. It's not shown as natural behaviour for men, it's shown as a choice some make because they want to do it, not because they couldn't help themselves. I think the only way to improve on that is to have no rape at all, which would make for a less gruesome but possibly less realistic story.

I'm inclined to agree with that.  Maybe I'm wrong, but gruesome medieval fantasy without rape, murder, torture etc. wouldn't be very good gruesome medieval fantasy.  It's not supposed to be Merlin.

What's really needed is parity of screen time for teh cock.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: rogerzilla on November 17, 2013, 06:36:27 pm
The trouble is, given the relative design of male and female anatomy, teh cock shots would have to be offset by Hustler-style shots for the ladies and it would all descend into the squelchiest kind of amateur pr0n.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Kim on November 17, 2013, 06:59:11 pm
The trouble is, given the relative design of male and female anatomy, teh cock shots would have to be offset by Hustler-style shots for the ladies and it would all descend into the squelchiest kind of amateur pr0n.

This is Game Of Thrones we're talking about.  No descending required.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on November 18, 2013, 07:40:32 am
What's really needed is parity of screen time for teh cock.

On a par with Spartacus Blood and Sand etc?

I thought the amount of member on view in Spartacus was more than you average non Soho DVD. Also the depiction of the female use of the slave as a sex toy refreshing.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on February 20, 2014, 05:42:00 pm
So I've just finished A Storm of Swords. No spoilers, except that those of you who are waiting for season four on TV are in for a treat.

The question is, do I now read A Feast for Crows on its own or do I follow this reading order (http://boiledleather.com/post/25902554148/a-new-reader-friendly-combined-reading-order-for-a) which weaves the chapters of Feast and A Dance with Dragons into an apparently more coherent (but gi-freakin'-normous) whole?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fboab on February 20, 2014, 05:53:47 pm
Follow the weave. You forget the characters otherwise. I didn't, and have really struggled with aDwD. (It would probably be really easy for me to do the weave, just a re-naming/ numbering of the audio book chapters. I might try it.)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on February 21, 2014, 10:51:54 am
Follow the weave. You forget the characters otherwise. I didn't, and have really struggled with aDwD. (It would probably be really easy for me to do the weave, just a re-naming/ numbering of the audio book chapters. I might try it.)

Good call. Plus, (not very spoilery but I'll tag it anyway)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on March 20, 2014, 06:55:22 pm
Two long haul flights in the last ten days - & they had all of series 1 on tap. You can watch an awful lot of GoT on a 12 hour flight.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruth on April 07, 2014, 04:29:48 pm
I just watched the first one of the new series.  Arya Stark - Cor!  No huge surprises, I don't think, but the potential for lots of bloodletting as the series progresses.

Marvellous.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PaulF on April 07, 2014, 04:45:26 pm
I just watched the first one of the new series.  Arya Stark - Cor!  No huge surprises, I don't think, but the potential for lots of bloodletting as the series progresses.

Marvellous.

Didn't think it was on until this evening ??? Better check my Sky box
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruth on April 07, 2014, 04:51:39 pm
I watched it on NOW TV.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PaulF on April 07, 2014, 04:52:45 pm
I watched it on NOW TV.

That makes sense, had me worried for a while but Sky Box is primed to record this evening so all well!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on April 07, 2014, 04:56:26 pm
Didn't think it was on until this evening ??? Better check my Sky box

It was also on at 2am this morning, for those who couldn't wait.

I'm going to download all the box sets to watch at my leisure. I've been missing out too long.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 08, 2014, 12:04:15 pm
Slightly OT but this doesn't seem to be available on many (legit) sources. We have paid subscription to Netflix but nope, not there. Would consider paying for Virgin TV but not there.
NowTV or Sky seem the only options.

How effing stupid. People will just watch pirated copies.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on April 09, 2014, 05:20:46 pm
Indeed. They are. Hence big stink kicked up by copyright owners.

Have they learned nothing from the war on music downloads?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on April 12, 2014, 01:23:06 pm
Latecomer, just started binge watching. It's good stuff this!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on April 13, 2014, 02:43:00 pm
http://www.policymic.com/articles/86999/why-sansa-stark-is-the-strongest-character-on-game-of-thrones  :)

http://rhube.tumblr.com/post/82030791605/if-game-of-thrones-had-a-buffy-style-intro  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on April 14, 2014, 11:26:43 pm
(click to show/hide)

Or is that just me?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on April 14, 2014, 11:32:00 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruth on April 15, 2014, 12:07:55 am
(click to show/hide)

Or is that just me?

No, me too.  But
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on April 15, 2014, 12:11:43 am
No, it was a highlight for me when I first read it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 15, 2014, 08:54:35 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 15, 2014, 10:37:30 am
They'll have to change it from the books if they outpace them at this rate.  Won't be any more series to do otherwise.



Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on April 15, 2014, 11:17:23 am
(click to show/hide)

The actor is who plays Theon is Lily Allen's brother. Talented family.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on April 15, 2014, 11:22:24 am
They'll have to change it from the books if they outpace them at this rate.  Won't be any more series to do otherwise.

At the rate I'm getting to watch the series's, Bluray, LED TV's, streaming etc will be archaic technology before I get round to finishing ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 15, 2014, 11:40:11 am
Here is how the plot goes

Jamie comes out. He's gay. He's always known it. But he's a member of the Kingsguard so will remain celibate.

The Loras immediately makes a pass at him. Brienne is pissed off by this and kicks Loras's puny ass off the walls of Kings Landing.

In true Joffrey style, Joffrey totally loses it at the concept of having a gay uncle and goes for Jamie with a sword. Brienne twists his arm behind his back and sits on him. Joffrey is overcome with lust; what he's always really wanted was for a big strong woman to beat on him and make him beg. He spends the next three episodes following Brienne around like a lovesick puppy saying things like "I am your king! I order you to whip me.".

Cersei is consumed in fury by all of this and screams at everyone. Everyone ignores her.

Tyrion sits in a corner getting pissed.

Tywin sits on a chair and shouts at people.

The dragons mate and lay loads of eggs. Dragons lay *hundreds* of eggs. Suddenly they are no longer rare or desirable.

Sam has the idea of spraying white walkers with water. White walkers immediately freeze in place and Night's Watch amuse themselves by pissing on them.

Everyone hits Theon Greyjoy.  In fact, there is a lineup at one stage, like that scene in Airplane.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on April 15, 2014, 12:43:08 pm
They'll have to change it from the books if they outpace them at this rate.  Won't be any more series to do otherwise.

It is known. ;)

I reckon that if GRRM can wrap up the book series in 7 books and he doesn't suffer any delays as for book 5, it might be just possible to get both series to conclude simultaneously. Bear with me on this...

HBO just renewed the show for seasons 5-6, and the show-runners (who have been told by GRRM how the story ends) say they can wrap it all in 8. This season is finishing off book 3 and getting started on books 4 and 5, weaved together in chronological order.

The big delay in getting book 5 out was GRRM doing a rewrite when his initial idea of an in-story five year jump required too much in the way of exposition and flashbacks, plus trying to work out how to get the Essos and Westeros storylines to finally converge ("the Mereenese Knot"). A certain amount of the delay in writing book 6 has been GRRM getting distracted by side projects, but he had a small luxury of several chapters from the book 5 draft held back.

Without any more displacement activity, there's a hope (in the fandom at least) that book 6 comes out next year, and if GRRM can wrap up ASOIAF in 7 books, the last one might be out in say, 2018. Subject to him not doing a Robert Jordan or Frank Herbert and dying before the series is concluded...

So, an optimistic projection might be:

Season 4 - filmed 2013, on TV now, depicting books 3/4 (+5?)
Season 5 - filming 2014, on TV 2015, depicting books 4 and 5  - assume book 6 published early(ish) in 2015
Season 6 - filming 2015, on TV 2016, depicting books 5 and 6
Season 7 - filming 2016, on TV 2017, depicting books 6 and the show's makers interpretation of what GRRM has told them
Season 8 - filming 2017, on TV 2018, depicting the show's makers interpretation of what GRRM has told them - book 8 published in time for the start of season 8

Best taken well salted, but it's no more implausible than mrcharly's post above mine - though he's not far off wrt Cersei, Tyrion and Theon Reek.  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 15, 2014, 01:04:58 pm
Talk ye not of Robert Jordan  :hand:


I literally just finished The Wheel of Time last week.  I started reading it in 1994/5  :jurek:


I truly hope he doesn't go anywhere doing a Jordan in any sense of the word.  I first bought AGoT during the interminable wait for book 7 of the WoT - I'd no idea it would be a similar wait-marathon.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 15, 2014, 01:07:50 pm
You do of course realise that the scenes with Reek/Theon are actually out of the latest book.  This I find most interesting of all.  Without source books for upcoming series they reall *are* going to have to diverge from the books (or at least make the books more boring for those that still want to read them).
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on April 15, 2014, 01:15:34 pm
You think ASOIAF leaves you hanging on for the next installment?

Have you started to read the Earths Children (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earths_Children) saga and waited for books in that one?

Where do I find the tumbleweed emoticon?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 15, 2014, 01:27:17 pm
Wow yes, those gaps are even bigger.  Are they self contained books though?  If they are that's maybe not so bad.
You have my sympathies if not.  :-)


I don't think you could read the books of ASOIAF out of order or miss one out...


GRRM was still taking the piss a little bit with 7 years between books at one point.  Even Jordan didn't manage that much of a gap when he was dead.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on April 15, 2014, 01:29:06 pm
They can be picked up and read alone I suppose but, constant reference is made throughout them to the characters past life as told in the earlier books.

They are a good read though.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 15, 2014, 01:31:36 pm
I shall wait for them all to be out and read them one after the other just to annoy  :P  ;-)




... if I can remember to do so when I am old and wrinkly ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on April 15, 2014, 01:34:38 pm
You do of course realise that the scenes with Reek/Theon are actually out of the latest book.  This I find most interesting of all.  Without source books for upcoming series they reall *are* going to have to diverge from the books (or at least make the books more boring for those that still want to read them).

There's an interesting chart that shows how the TV episodes and POV chapters have got increasingly out of step with successive TV series:

http://i.imgur.com/R1uOWlY.png

Season 4's going to be all over the place compared with the books. Mind you, when you consider what Peter Jackson did with the Middle Earth canon, especially in the Hobbit...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on April 15, 2014, 01:38:53 pm
I shall wait for them all to be out and read them one after the other just to annoy  :P  ;-)




... if I can remember to do so when I am old and wrinkly ;)

Fill your boots! She claims to have finished the saga.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 15, 2014, 01:55:15 pm
You do of course realise that the scenes with Reek/Theon are actually out of the latest book.  This I find most interesting of all.  Without source books for upcoming series they reall *are* going to have to diverge from the books (or at least make the books more boring for those that still want to read them).

There's an interesting chart that shows how the TV episodes and POV chapters have got increasingly out of step with successive TV series:

http://i.imgur.com/R1uOWlY.png (http://i.imgur.com/R1uOWlY.png)

Season 4's going to be all over the place compared with the books. Mind you, when you consider what Peter Jackson did with the Middle Earth canon, especially in the Hobbit...


Hmm, some people have too much time on their hands  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Tigerrr on April 17, 2014, 03:55:06 pm
I think there will be a merge of GOT with LOR at some point. Not sure if they will go for actual hobbits doing sex but I for one look forward to the elven bits. As long as it isnt Gandalf weilding his staff.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on April 17, 2014, 03:58:50 pm
OK, I admit it - having previously been a GOT sceptic, I'm converted. I've downloaded the first three series and am gradually working my way through them. And I'm recording the fourth series as broadcast. Shouldn't take me too long to catch up at current rate of progress. I still have reservations but it's basically great drama, and great fun.

Daenerys Targaryan is probably my favourite character in anything on the telly at the moment. She's ace.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 17, 2014, 04:03:52 pm
I like Tyrion Lannister and Bron.

Developing a sneaking fondness for The Hound. He can't help having a shit for a brother.

As for female characters, Ygritte "You know nothing, John Snow" is alright, as is Osha.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on April 17, 2014, 04:06:37 pm
Developing a sneaking fondness for The Hound.

I met the actor (forget his name) at the GOT party I went to for the launch of the second series. He's a smashing bloke in real life.

Peter Dinklage is just class in whatever he appears in. Tyrion is a great character. But still second to Daenerys in my book.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on April 17, 2014, 05:36:29 pm
Brienne and Jaime when together on screen are always entertaining.

Reading the books, it's amusing as the characters are pretty much the same age as the characters in Harry Potter, only leading much more adult lives.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on April 17, 2014, 06:57:32 pm
Of the characters being followed, that's true of some, but by no means all.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruth on April 17, 2014, 07:24:44 pm
If you compared life expectancy in Westerros with life expectancy in the Harry Potter world, I wonder which one would win.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: closetleftie on April 19, 2014, 08:42:35 pm
Just started reading the first book. A good read.

All this talk of an imagined world is just tosh, however...

- The story is set on a land mass on a north/south axis
- Said land mass is divided from another, east/west, larger land by a narrow sea
- Some cities are closest, then an exotic plains-type culture of horselords, then, eerrrm, Yi Ti and the Jade Sea

- The Northerners are, near as I can tell, basically decent
- Southerners are evil and duplicitous
- There's a wall built across the place, a bit north of the North, so to speak
- Beyond the Wall, things get very dodgy very quickly, with savages and monsters and sub-human creatures all over the place


Now where could GRRM possibly have taken his inspiration from?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 19, 2014, 10:19:10 pm
The Northmen are basically the Northumberland saxon kingdom of old.
The Islanders are clearly vikings
The Dothraki are clearly Mongols of Ghengis Khan's era


etc.


So?  Does every author have to be an island?  Is there something in the literature out there that doesn't draw on earlier sources or inspiration?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruth on April 19, 2014, 10:24:04 pm
For quite some time now, I've had a nickname for our Great Leader (Cameron), which I have kept to myself.

To me, Dave, you will always be Joffrey.

Could it be that I'm not alone in this?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on April 19, 2014, 11:16:55 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on April 20, 2014, 08:21:05 am
The scale is different.  The land mass is much bigger than the UK,  eg more like the Americas. Explains how the Dorne are Latin types from a much hotter climate.
It's based on a lot of things, initially the Wars of the Roses, Lancaster/Lannisters vs York/Stark, however, I'd have really paid interest at school if the source material was as gripping
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruth on April 20, 2014, 10:28:05 pm
In the Roman legions, a Lanister was the bloke who did the budget.  He probly paid all the debts too.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: closetleftie on April 21, 2014, 12:55:16 pm
The Northmen are basically the Northumberland saxon kingdom of old.
The Islanders are clearly vikings
The Dothraki are clearly Mongols of Ghengis Khan's era


etc.


So?  Does every author have to be an island?  Is there something in the literature out there that doesn't draw on earlier sources or inspiration?

No, of course not. Tolkien (for instance) drew on many European legends in creating Middle Earth, and IIRC said somewhere that elvish was meant to sound more or less Welsh.

GoT is a good read. Halfway through the second one now - it's certainly long enough!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 07, 2014, 10:34:29 am
Factoid: The actor who portrays Hodor really is that big. 6ft 10 tall.


(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on May 07, 2014, 02:48:33 pm
Factoid: The actor who portrays Hodor really is that big. 6ft 10 tall.


(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 07, 2014, 02:55:05 pm
Factoid: The actor who portrays Hodor really is that big. 6ft 10 tall.


(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: CommuteTooFar on May 07, 2014, 07:17:47 pm
A question.

I have not read the books. I have not seen the TV programmes.  I am curious.  Should I read the books or buy a box set first?

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 07, 2014, 08:06:06 pm
books first I think.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruth on May 12, 2014, 10:20:26 pm
Oi!  Tyrion!  Nooooo!

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 12, 2014, 10:56:23 pm
wafo ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 12, 2014, 11:34:38 pm
Oi!  Tyrion!  Nooooo!

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 12, 2014, 11:36:25 pm
Oi!  Tyrion!  Nooooo!

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)


(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 12, 2014, 11:50:30 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 15, 2014, 02:54:23 pm
Tyrion's epic speech v2.0 (http://io9.com/tyrions-epic-game-of-thrones-speech-gets-a-perfect-alte-1576457738).  :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PaulF on May 15, 2014, 03:18:21 pm
Tyrion's epic speech v2.0 (http://io9.com/tyrions-epic-game-of-thrones-speech-gets-a-perfect-alte-1576457738).  :D

Excellent!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Charlotte on May 15, 2014, 04:00:57 pm
Tyrion's epic speech v2.0 (http://io9.com/tyrions-epic-game-of-thrones-speech-gets-a-perfect-alte-1576457738).  :D

LOL  :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruth on May 21, 2014, 10:36:37 pm
Everybody nice in GoT gets very killed.  Which means Tyrion and Sansa, best king and queen ever, will never get to reign  :(

Oh, but that bitter, bitter end by the moon door!  How fantastic was that.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on June 02, 2014, 08:48:46 pm
S04E08

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: red marley on June 02, 2014, 08:54:02 pm
Is it possible to see the fourth series without (a) resorting to illegal downloads; (b) taking giving the Murdoch coin; (c) waiting a full year for the DVD boxed set?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on June 02, 2014, 10:00:26 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 02, 2014, 11:51:46 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on June 07, 2014, 06:41:21 pm
Fan re edit of the mountain vs viper
http://youtu.be/r8oOi6JOXEQ
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on June 09, 2014, 07:48:40 pm
S04E08

(click to show/hide)

S04E09

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruth on June 13, 2014, 11:06:34 pm
Yeah, so there's going to be an enormous crescendo episode ending in a BFO cliffhanger that'll last till GRM finishes the next book.

And he takes feckin' ages.

 :facepalm:

That was really good though.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 13, 2014, 11:30:24 pm
Um - there is at least one more season to go before they catch up with the books.

It will still be a bloody wait tho', cause he is ages off finishing and a crazed fan will probably kill him first.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruth on June 13, 2014, 11:34:39 pm
Um - there is at least one more season to go before they catch up with the books.


Really?!

Excellent news!  I thought this was it!

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 13, 2014, 11:38:58 pm
Um - there is at least one more season to go before they catch up with the books.


Really?!

Excellent news!  I thought this was it!

(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jakob on June 17, 2014, 01:13:00 am
Probably best season yet.
Really liked the undead at the end. Very Harryhausen, but with modern animation techniques. The fireballs were also need in the way they were tossed rather than a 'shot'.

Dragon lady is getting a bit boring though...go do some dragon-things!!.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Valiant on June 17, 2014, 02:08:14 am
S04E08

(click to show/hide)

S04E09

(click to show/hide)

Mine is <schwarzenegger>GET TO DA CHOPPER!</schwarzenegger>
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on June 17, 2014, 01:04:09 pm
I was left shattered after the finale.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 17, 2014, 03:25:09 pm
Intresting comparing where they're going on the timeline with the books.


Tyrion - 1 (maybe 2) books to go…?
Danaery - yeah about 1 book to go.
Story in the North - hmm about 3 books to go but then it was left hanging for ages..
Arya - about 3 books to go
Bran - about 1 book to go


The main story arc is almost up with the books given another series they will be, but some characters (Arya, Jon Snow, the iron men (maybe)) are waaaaay behind in their story arc.


I fully expect it to diverge from the books a lot now.


(click to show/hide)


Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 17, 2014, 07:43:24 pm

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on June 17, 2014, 08:29:50 pm
I really don't mind if they change stuff. Here's why:

1. The original books are Quite Tedious in places.
2. I'm not invested enough in the whole Fandom thing to really give a damn. The books have entertained me, the TV-Series have entertained me. They don't have to be the same to do this.
3.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 17, 2014, 08:38:16 pm
I really don't mind if they change stuff. Here's why:

1. The original books are Quite Tedious in places.
2. I'm not invested enough in the whole Fandom thing to really give a damn. The books have entertained me, the TV-Series have entertained me. They don't have to be the same to do this.
3.
(click to show/hide)
Couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruth on June 17, 2014, 11:37:29 pm
I really don't mind if they change stuff. Here's why:

1. The original books are Quite Tedious in places.
2. I'm not invested enough in the whole Fandom thing to really give a damn. The books have entertained me, the TV-Series have entertained me. They don't have to be the same to do this.
3.
(click to show/hide)
Couldn't agree more.

It was brilliant. 

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 18, 2014, 07:57:45 am
I really don't mind if they change stuff. Here's why:

1. The original books are Quite Tedious in places.
2. I'm not invested enough in the whole Fandom thing to really give a damn. The books have entertained me, the TV-Series have entertained me. They don't have to be the same to do this.
3.
(click to show/hide)
Couldn't agree more.

It was brilliant. 

(click to show/hide)


Yeah I suppose in retrospect it was quite good :-)


From what I've been reading Lady Stoneheart may not be in it at all :(

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on August 07, 2014, 09:18:11 pm
Just getting to the endo of season 3.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruth on August 07, 2014, 09:27:27 pm
Ah.  That'd be the red wedding then?   ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on August 07, 2014, 09:35:30 pm
Red? Claret more like!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: red marley on December 10, 2014, 11:12:23 pm
Currently doing the rounds in Twitterland...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4aVceyIcAATuie.png)
You know nothing Jon Snow.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Steph on December 16, 2014, 03:13:00 pm
One of my writing site acquaintances linked to HBO and their request for fan fiction scripts. Their conditions require anyone who offers them a script to sign over all rights. Gratis.

Go and get fecked, Home Box Office.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on December 23, 2014, 01:29:18 pm
I'm still only up to s3 e6 - I have s4 recorded but I'm not watching it until I've caught up with the last few eps of s3, which are missing off my box due to a bit of a cockup on the recording front.

Luckily, they're repeating the whole lot over 12 days on Sky Atlantic at the moment (started on Saturday, s1 finished last night and they're starting s2 tonight). I've taken the opportunity to start watching them all from the beginning again. I've realised that there's loads of detail I missed when watching it first time round, probably because I didn't realise how significant it was at the time - it all makes an awful lot more sense when you have some idea who all the characters are (eg I didn't really associate the Loras who is part of the Tyrell clan in s3 with the Loras who is Renly's boyfriend in s1).

Daenerys is still my favourite character. She's proper badass.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on January 15, 2015, 10:57:24 am
OMFG!!!

Guess which episode I watched last night? Clue - this was me:
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mr Larrington on January 15, 2015, 03:28:51 pm
Dr Larrington is currently re-watching the whole thing.  But this is research, so that's alright.

I'd have though she was senior enough to warrant a Penniless Student Oaf to do all that for her but apparently not :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on January 30, 2015, 10:42:02 pm
Um - there is at least one more season to go before they catch up with the books.

It will still be a bloody wait tho', cause he is ages off finishing and a crazed fan will probably kill him first.

GRRM's publisher has confirmed that The Winds of Winter won't be out this year, chiz.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2015/jan/30/george-rr-martin-the-winds-of-winter-publication
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mr Larrington on January 31, 2015, 07:14:54 am
The chap who won last night's ep of "Mastermind" had "GoT" as his spesh subj.  here is how many of his questions I could answer: 0.  Did better with another chap's Neil Young.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on February 01, 2015, 09:36:22 pm
Danny Dyer: Game of Thrones turned me down three times (http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/31063205) ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on February 01, 2015, 10:27:52 pm
- The Northerners are, near as I can tell, basically decent
Ramsay Snow.


And before you say he's a solitary exception -
His dad.
The average Karstark.

And although not actually Northern, the Freys aren't exactly Southern.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on February 02, 2015, 12:21:37 am
- The Northerners are, near as I can tell, basically decent
Ramsay Snow.


And before you say he's a solitary exception -
His dad.
The average Karstark.

And although not actually Northern, the Freys aren't exactly Southern.

The "basically decent" Northmen (your exceptions apart*) are more akin to PTerry's Granny Weatherwax - they may be good, but that doesn't mean that they are nice - and mileage might vary on Lady Dustin, the Umbers, and, possibly even Wyman Manderly.**  ;)

* I'd put Jorah Mormont in the not-decent Northerner category, given the reasons he's in Essos and effectively disinherited.

**
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 03, 2015, 09:35:19 am
I'm not sure any characters in GoT are 'decent', apart from possibly Brienne.

No, not even Ned Stark. At the very start of everything he has a young boy's head chopped off for getting scared and running away.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on February 03, 2015, 01:36:12 pm
Not "has ... chopped off" - "chops off".
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on March 30, 2015, 02:49:21 pm
How has this been around for 18 months, and I only saw it today? I must live under a rock or something...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Krz-dyD-UQ
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 15, 2015, 11:02:27 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on April 21, 2015, 03:43:25 pm
2 episodes into season 5, and it's a bit of a slow burn.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Charlotte on April 21, 2015, 09:06:49 pm
Four episodes in and it's hotting up.  Jon Snow still knows nothing, though.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 22, 2015, 08:55:26 am
Do you have a time machine?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mcshroom on April 22, 2015, 09:12:54 am
First few episodes were leaked online I believe.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on April 22, 2015, 09:37:00 am
First four episodes, to be precise - copied from press preview streams.

I've seen stories that HBO are going after anyone who's downloaded them. Yeah, right. Good luck with that.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Charlotte on April 22, 2015, 02:15:48 pm
Do you have a time machine?

Yes  :D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 22, 2015, 02:38:15 pm
First four episodes, to be precise - copied from press preview streams.

I've seen stories that HBO are going after anyone who's downloaded them. Yeah, right. Good luck with that.
If they send the faceless men, nobody is safe.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on April 23, 2015, 03:17:39 pm
Valar morghulis.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on April 23, 2015, 04:51:07 pm
Valar dohaeris
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on April 23, 2015, 06:32:51 pm
Words are wind.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on April 23, 2015, 10:35:31 pm
(http://s3-static-ak.buzzfed.com/static/2014-04/campaign_images/webdr07/26/10/channel-4-anchor-jon-snow-dressed-as-game-of-thro-2-23554-1398523168-1_dblbig.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 28, 2015, 04:04:52 pm
Starting to deviate nicely from the book. This is good news and bad news:

GN
The books got a bit tedious and didn't half start to ramble.

GN
It means I don't know what will happen next.

BN
At this rate the TV series will overtake the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 28, 2015, 06:24:02 pm
I'm definitely in agreement with the 2nd two points there.


I try not to be like that with the books, if you wait years in anticipation then the book is always likely to be an anticlimax, that was pretty famously thought of the Robery Jordan wheel of time books but a mate of mine read them later than me and liked all the so-called 'tedious' ones as he hadn't had to wait only to find not as much happened as hoped.


But yeah, they are getting right up on the books now.  With some sub-plots (Daenaerys and Tyrion for example) we're almost there already.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on May 06, 2015, 11:57:50 pm
Eddard Stark often got shorten to Ned. Did the same happen to Sir Barristan Selmy. Never hear him get referred to as Barry or Bazza
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on May 07, 2015, 10:19:51 am
Or Stan.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 08, 2015, 08:14:03 pm
Thought the new series has been a bit slow so far but I just watched ep4 and it's picking up nicely.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 18, 2015, 11:42:39 pm
Who's done with the show, and who's sticking around to see how bad it can get?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on May 19, 2015, 12:44:59 am
"The dwarf lives until we can find a cock merchant"
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 19, 2015, 10:38:15 am
Who's done with the show, and who's sticking around to see how bad it can get?

I thought it was picking up in ep4 (see earlier post) but the last couple of episodes have been soooo dull. I'm losing interest rapidly.

A lot of the problem seems to be that most of the best characters were killed off in the last series but, unlike when that has happened in previous series, they haven't been replaced with equally interesting new characters.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 19, 2015, 10:45:25 am
I'm just pleased that they are now ignoring the books. By this time, Martin was wandering off into random sub-plots that did nothing at all to advance the storyline. At times it was like he couldn't think what to put into the next chapter, so used a random plot generator website.

Within a couple of episodes, they will have overtaken the books. Only the absolute die-hard fans will bother reading the next book.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mcshroom on May 19, 2015, 12:01:30 pm
There's a storyline completely missing so far this series. What's happened to Bran Stark who was led down a cave north of the wall last series.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 19, 2015, 12:13:49 pm
It's one thing to deviate from the books in order to tidy up the cat's cradle of plot-lines, but that only works if it's handled intelligently - and mileage is varying wildly on whether D&D are pulling it off or pissing all over various characters' story arcs.

And I was asking the question partly because I was half-expecting at least one of the forum sisterhood who watches AGoT to have waxed very wroth by now...

Quote
Among other things, HBO’s Game of Thrones is a show that has been given enormous leeway in its depiction of sexualized violence, in no small part because George R.R Martin’s “A Song of Ice and Fire” has as one of its major thematic elements a harsh critique of the patriarchal culture of medieval societies, and the sexualized violence inherent in such a society. However, that doesn’t mean the same thing as a blank check. Last season, when the showrunners inadvertently (or not) turned Cersei and Jaime’s reunion in the Sept of Baelor into a rape scene, they were loudly (and rightly) critiqued for having botched an important moment in the story in such a way that reinforced rape culture.

So with this last scene, I think the showrunners have betrayed the trust of their audience, by depicting a scene of brutality against Sansa Stark for no purpose. We already knew that Ramsay Bolton was a sadist and an abuser of women, we already knew that Theon Greyjoy was his tormented puppet. Showing Sansa’s dress ripped, showing her face shoved down into the bed, hearing her screams did nothing to reveal character, or advance the plot, or critique anything about Westerosi society or about our own conceptions of medieval society that hasn’t already been critiqued.

http://www.salon.com/2015/05/18/game_of_thrones_politics_secret_missions_desperate_lies_and_the_dangerous_art_of_the_double_cross/

See also: http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/game-of-thrones-is-gross-exploitative-and-totally-out-1705235364

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 19, 2015, 06:31:19 pm
It's rather yet to be decided if that scene reveals anything about character isn't it?  It's difficult for it to 'reveal' anything when nothing has happened subsequently yet - unless someone has a crystal ball (or pirated copy of the next episode) to hand.


Also, yes we know he's a sadistic ruthless bastard - so it would be rather out of character for him not to continue displaying it. It would have been more ridiculous for him to marry her and then suddenly turn into a charming prince lovely would it not?  ::-)


Who knows, maybe Sansa will now be a ruthless scheming bitch now bent on revenge and will outmanoeuvre RB through all that Littlefinger has taught her...


Nice to be able to speculate seeing as this is utterly different to him.. (don't read if you don't know the books and want to read)


(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 19, 2015, 06:33:32 pm
One further point - I assume the main story arcs are still going to be the same - I suspect you'll find that the end of the series will have some rather barnstorming stuff  ;D   - we'll be up on the books by then I think.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 20, 2015, 12:39:40 pm
I've given up with the tv show. I watched the first couple of this series, got bored, couldn't be arsed.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: bumper on May 20, 2015, 12:42:54 pm
I've given up with the tv show. I watched the first couple of this series, got bored, couldn't be arsed.

me too.

VIKINGS is better :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: tiermat on May 20, 2015, 01:47:08 pm
For the GoT and Coldplay fans...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1URvDyzh8uI
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: red marley on May 25, 2015, 08:02:50 am
And the full length version...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zs7xO5P3Az4
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on May 26, 2015, 09:54:35 am
I never liked Robson and Jerome, but I would happily buy a CD of Jerome singing the folk songs of the 7 kingdoms. The Dornishman's wife was a highlight of last nights episode.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 26, 2015, 10:56:53 am
The Dornishman's wife was a highlight of last nights episode.

...which just goes to show how dull the rest of it was.

The whole Sam and Gilly thing has always made me cringe but last night's episode was ridiculous.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mr Larrington on May 26, 2015, 11:40:44 am
Weren't Sam and Gilly in The Spiders From Mars?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on May 26, 2015, 11:50:30 am
I binge watched the first 3 series, so it seemed to move a lot faster than it did. I'm still really enjoying the series, but I do seem to be in the minority.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mr Larrington on May 26, 2015, 12:10:10 pm
I believe even the durable Dr Larrington is starting to flag by now but she has to keep watching at least this series to the bitter end in order to finish her book on the subj.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Andrij on May 27, 2015, 11:41:16 am
Families furious at disappointing Game of Thrones fun day (http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/families-furious-at-disappointing-game-of-thrones-fun-day-2015052798622)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 27, 2015, 12:01:29 pm
Human Centipede On Ice!  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 27, 2015, 01:52:10 pm
Human Centipede On Ice!  ;D

So that's what Qyburn's been working on.  ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 01, 2015, 12:01:23 am
Why you should never let a Game of Thrones fan decorate the guest bathroom:

http://tumblr.tastefullyoffensive.com/post/120364708123/photo-via-brianito

;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 01, 2015, 10:13:49 pm
Well to all the boredom crowd  - don't reckon so tonight  :thumbsup: ;D
And that was nothing like the book as I recall (it's possible I do not they take him soooo long to write) so that's damn cool by me.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:


Awesome
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on June 02, 2015, 09:09:19 am
Pffft. I had my fill of overblown battle scenes with Lord of the Rings.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 02, 2015, 09:16:12 am
I *loved* the
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 02, 2015, 11:25:58 am
Pffft. I had my fill of overblown battle scenes with Lord of the Rings.


 :-\  Go an watch Law and Order or summat then
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on June 02, 2015, 12:02:25 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on June 03, 2015, 12:37:20 am
Ok, I watched it again and it was much better the second time. I think I was just a bit too tired to properly follow it last night.

Big chief white walker dude is one badass mofo.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on June 08, 2015, 09:21:23 am
Season 5, Episode 9

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on June 08, 2015, 09:59:36 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on June 08, 2015, 11:28:27 pm
(click to show/hide)

 ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on June 09, 2015, 12:02:43 am
George RR Martin + Limhal=

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqHS-CAG4PI

and just in case you want to watch the original

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf1WT8VEZxk
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on June 15, 2015, 01:40:23 pm
Ep10...

Crikey...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 15, 2015, 02:40:46 pm
Ep10...

Crikey...

(click to show/hide)

Cliffhangers... so many cliffhangers!

(click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on June 15, 2015, 03:09:08 pm
(click to show/hide)

My thoughts exactly!

Quote
(click to show/hide)

I don't know why, but the cut was clearly intended to create that element of doubt. We'll see...

Oh yes, and one other thing...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 15, 2015, 11:05:40 pm
(click to show/hide)

Ho yuss, that was wonderful.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on June 16, 2015, 06:45:39 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jakob on June 16, 2015, 09:16:32 pm
Do we really need all the spoiler tags? It makes the thread mostly unreadable.

Anyhow. This was easily the weakest season. The characters are increasingly unlikeable, the plot numbers are getting more and more convoluted and some cliffhangers from last season weren't even touched and barely anything got resolved this season.
I think they're losing control of the series and are struggling to make it coherent...and how much time did they spend on Cersei's walk of shame?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: red marley on June 16, 2015, 09:34:56 pm
Yes to spoiler tags. Many of us don't have access to Sky or HBO so haven't seen S.5 yet.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruthie on June 16, 2015, 09:53:10 pm
I'm not angry.  Just disappointed.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fboab on June 16, 2015, 10:32:53 pm
HOLY FUCK.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on June 16, 2015, 11:01:31 pm
Two different series going on now.

1. The books.

2. The TV programmes.

Getting further & further apart, by the sound of it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 17, 2015, 08:26:48 am
Actually the end of the series was pretty much the same as the end of the last book.


But it got there by very different means.  I expect the TV series to thoroughly out pace the books now (since I've been reading since 1996 I expect this isn't forlorn)  and I hope it's very very different otherwise it'll somewhat spoil the books. ::-)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 17, 2015, 11:52:02 am
http://newsthump.com/2015/06/15/game-of-thrones-to-start-killing-off-characters-from-other-tv-shows/


 ;D


No spoilers in there
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on June 22, 2015, 01:29:28 pm
Actually the end of the series was pretty much the same as the end of the last book.
Really? Although I've not seen the episodes in question, I've heard of characters being dead who are still alive & active at the end of the latest book - which I've read, as with all the others, starting not long after you. There's also been mention of characters being married to different people, & events taking place which had not yet happened in the latest book.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 22, 2015, 02:01:11 pm
Spoiler alert - this post discussed major differences between book and tv

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 22, 2015, 02:56:12 pm
Spoiler alert - this post discussed major differences between book and tv

(click to show/hide)

One correction, and more differences. Caveat lector.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 22, 2015, 03:06:36 pm
Spoiler alert - this post discussed major differences between book and tv

(click to show/hide)


Do NOT read under there if you want to read the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 22, 2015, 03:09:22 pm
Spoiler alert - this post discussed major differences between book and tv

(click to show/hide)


Do NOT read under there if you want to read the books.

I can't help thinking that it would have been easier if there were two GoT/ASoIaF threads - one for the show/book unsullied, and the other for the show/book spoiled.  ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 22, 2015, 03:21:57 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jakob on June 26, 2015, 11:58:02 pm
Yes to spoiler tags. Many of us don't have access to Sky or HBO so haven't seen S.5 yet.

I usually don't read threads where I know I haven't caught up yet..and all the tags makes this thread unreadable..
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mr Larrington on June 27, 2015, 08:18:21 am
Dr Larrington has recently delivered the final version of "Winter is Coming: The Medieval World of Game of Thrones" to the publisher, who has taken her to task for not baldly stating that $CHARACTER is dead even though everyone on teh Intarwebs says he is.

Publication is now scheduled for November 30th; pre-order your copy from the Mega-Global Sounds Like A Big River Corporation of Seattle, USAnia today!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Pippa on June 27, 2015, 07:54:40 pm
I have only just realised that Bronn is played by Jerome Flynn of Robson & Jerome (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fgUY-kXlBA) "fame".

How did I fail to notice that?

 ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on June 27, 2015, 08:20:16 pm
Well, to be fair, I don't think I would recognise Ant or Dec without the other one standing next to them.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 28, 2015, 09:38:48 am
But do you know which one is which?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on June 28, 2015, 12:30:31 pm
Ant is the annoying Geordie one, while Dec is... er...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 28, 2015, 01:24:07 pm
Ant is the big one, Dec is the little one.


In mitigation, I should point out I only worked this out last year  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on June 28, 2015, 02:03:44 pm
But do you know which one is which?
Does it matter?

I've always thought of them as a double-headed single entity, a sort of neotenous Geordie hydra. I've never seen any point in assigning either head a name.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 28, 2015, 03:56:34 pm
Of course it doesn't matter  ::-)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PaulF on June 28, 2015, 04:12:55 pm
But which episode do they get killed in?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on June 28, 2015, 08:08:30 pm
Ant is the big one, Dec is the little one.


In mitigation, I should point out I only worked this out last year  ;D
They stand in alphabetical order as you look at the screen.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on June 28, 2015, 08:09:07 pm
When they presented SM:tv,  they had a segment called Challenge Ant, where the one called Ant was quizzed mastermind  stylee in a big chair. I remember the segment so have always been able to identify Ant,  so have always recognised Dec, by the fact he's not Ant.
Ant has the larger forehead.

I've been watching George R Martin videos on youtube where he reveals what real historical events he based plot points on. Most of the really violent stuff seems to be Scottish or French history, which explains why I was so bored studying the wars of the Roses at school, but love game of thrones. 
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 29, 2015, 09:55:11 am
Ant is the big one, Dec is the little one.


In mitigation, I should point out I only worked this out last year  ;D
They stand in alphabetical order as you look at the screen.


Left to right or right to left?  :demon: ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 29, 2015, 10:41:52 am
Daenerys Targaryen Emilia Clarke creates an army of castrated super-soldiers.

Next film.
Emilia Clarke stars alongside male-appearing but neuter robot super-soldier.

Hmm.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mr Larrington on January 21, 2016, 10:28:52 pm
I am just back from an event at Waterstones in Piccadilly at which Dr Larrington was plugging her latest book (http://www.ibtauris.com/Books/The%20arts/Film%20TV%20%20radio/Television/Winter%20is%20Coming%20The%20Medieval%20World%20of%20Game%20of%20Thrones.aspx?menuitem=%7BB571EE45-263D-4532-A616-771699D984CA%7D).  I'm almost tempted to read Mr Martin's works myself now.

She says that an army of eunuchs is a craptacularly bad idea, BTW.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Riggers on January 27, 2016, 05:05:17 pm
… "Crapta … What!!? Get out. No, leave your coat where it is!"
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on February 05, 2016, 08:28:38 pm
I am just back from an event at Waterstones in Piccadilly at which Dr Larrington was plugging her latest book (http://www.ibtauris.com/Books/The%20arts/Film%20TV%20%20radio/Television/Winter%20is%20Coming%20The%20Medieval%20World%20of%20Game%20of%20Thrones.aspx?menuitem=%7BB571EE45-263D-4532-A616-771699D984CA%7D).  I'm almost tempted to read Mr Martin's works myself now.

She says that an army of eunuchs is a craptacularly bad idea, BTW.

I see that she's also been on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/4465n9/iama_carolyne_larrington_an_oxford_professor_whos/
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mr Larrington on February 06, 2016, 09:24:28 am
Where she answers the question about industrial revolutions with a comment about "a proper historian" I'm tempted to ask "what about the one you're married to" ;D

Edit: "Have you considered collaborating with a Proper Historian? I'm sure you must be able to find one /somewhere/ in Oxford..."

(Unplugs the phone)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on April 29, 2016, 01:08:52 pm
Any thoughts on the new episode?

Tbh, I'd forgotten a lot of what happened at the end of S5 so I was grateful for the fact that it seemed to be largely a recap of where we stand with all the different narrative strands. And much faster paced than most of the last series. Hope it continues that way.

Khal Moro's "Queen of Nothing" line was a good'un. And naked grannies are always a winner.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on April 29, 2016, 01:38:31 pm
I had been wondering if the lack of posts until today was because people were still trying to work out WTF was going on with the Dorne storyline.  :demon:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on April 29, 2016, 01:56:36 pm
I had been wondering if the lack of posts until today was because people were still trying to work out WTF was going on with the Dorne storyline.  :demon:

(click to show/hide)

My take on things anyway.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 29, 2016, 01:59:00 pm
1st episode thing really - I'm kind of both thrilled that I no longer have a clue as to what is going to happen but pissed off that he's now definitely holding up the books for the series.


We know which set of fans you find most important Mr Martin then.  Like I've not been reading since 1996 then  >:(


Arya still seems to be malingering in the already published book story arc though - c'mon girl catch up.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 29, 2016, 02:03:28 pm
I have to say the whole Daenarys after the Mongols Dothraki found her disappointed my predictions.


(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on April 29, 2016, 02:05:39 pm
We know which set of fans you find most importantlucrative Mr Martin then.

FTFY

I don't care, I've never read the books and don't intend to start. There needs to be some divergence though - I felt one of the problems with the last series was trying to cram in too many diverse storylines, several of them not very interesting (eg Dorne).
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 29, 2016, 02:59:27 pm
We know which set of fans you find most importantlucrative Mr Martin then.

FTFY

I don't care, I've never read the books and don't intend to start. There needs to be some divergence though - I felt one of the problems with the last series was trying to cram in too many diverse storylines, several of them not very interesting (eg Dorne).


 :-D :thumbsup:


I've always loved Dorne - but then the books are better at being descriptive.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 29, 2016, 03:01:02 pm
The TV series has also missed out 50% of why Dorne is important to the storyline - at least so far - so I could see why it might seem peripheral.


This really *might* be spoilery but since the Daenerys story has progressed past where this happened in the book I guess maybe- tentatively not.


(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on April 29, 2016, 04:47:12 pm
Varys Targaryen

ITYM Viserys Targaryen - Varys Targaryen would be an interesting hybrid...  ;D

I've always loved Dorne - but then the books are better at being descriptive.

The Dorne storyline has always seemed like a bit of a distraction in the TV version - probably because, as you say, a lot of important detail has been left out. I liked Oberyn but lost interest in the Martells once he was killed off.

Hopefully the Sand Snakes will over-reach themselves in some way and get their comeuppance, then we can have done with that lot once and for all.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mr Larrington on April 29, 2016, 06:26:44 pm
All youse GoT fans should note that Dr Larrington has only today been recording a piece for The Economist's podcast on the, er, economy of the GoT universe.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on April 30, 2016, 12:43:29 pm
Yeah Viserys, sorry, was writing from memory.



Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruthie on May 02, 2016, 07:40:53 pm
Oh my goodness!!!

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on May 03, 2016, 01:21:11 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 03, 2016, 05:58:03 pm
That Ramsey Bolton's a wrong 'un, isn't he?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 03, 2016, 09:45:02 pm
Watching it now - missed it yesterday somehow - damn bank holidays - don't have mess with your understanding of what day of the week it is  ::-)


Anyway - by gee - they're not 'arf changing it from the books nowadays - good.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Steph on May 04, 2016, 12:05:40 am
I rather suspect that the very big man who walked through my workplace last week was a former porridge pin-up and GOT actor. Yarp!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on May 04, 2016, 08:28:36 am
I rather suspect that the very big man who walked through my workplace last week was a former porridge pin-up and GOT actor. Yarp!

My favourite Rory McCann line from GoT (and he's not even in character):

https://youtu.be/J5iS3tULXMQ?t=3m30s (skip to 3:30 if it doesn't do it automatically

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Riggers on May 05, 2016, 04:43:40 pm
Have you chaps not read the books, before all this televisual-type stuff?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 05, 2016, 04:49:04 pm
 :thumbsup:   I have
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on May 05, 2016, 04:58:27 pm
Yarp.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on May 05, 2016, 04:59:35 pm
I hadn't read the books until after I'd seen the first season of GoT, but now I'm caught up on both.

Obviously GRRM needs to hurry the eff up and finish the next one...  :-\
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 05, 2016, 07:20:52 pm
Someone's mother's brother's cousin (well my stepson) told me that he's on record as saying he's holding it up for the televisual stuff now.  >:( >:( >:(


How dare he do what he feels he wants to do.  ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on May 05, 2016, 10:53:19 pm
Wiki (and GRRM's own blog) says he said the opposite as recently as February -

"I am not writing anything until I deliver WINDS OF WINTER. Teleplays, screenplays, short stories, introductions, forewords, nothing.

And I've dropped all my editing projects but Wild Cards."

Not that he shouldn't write what he wants, of course, I'm just an impatient fan :)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 05, 2016, 11:00:45 pm
Indeed, and I did say it was someone's mother's brother's cousin.  I have made no attempt to check the truth of it.  I am very glad to hear the opposite.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Bledlow on May 05, 2016, 11:17:49 pm
Have you chaps not read the books, before all this televisual-type stuff?
I started reading them in a previous millennium, & read all those which have been published so far before seeing any of the televisual bits - series one on an aeroplane to Japan. Well, there wasn't much else to do.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruthie on May 10, 2016, 10:27:17 pm
Episode 3, season 6 - another cracker.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 10, 2016, 10:58:04 pm
(click to show/hide)


Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 11, 2016, 06:11:21 pm
(click to show/hide)


(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 11, 2016, 08:15:45 pm
(click to show/hide)


(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on May 11, 2016, 09:06:11 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 12, 2016, 01:45:32 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 12, 2016, 01:58:41 pm
(click to show/hide)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on May 12, 2016, 02:51:36 pm
(click to show/hide)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw9oX-kZ_9k

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 16, 2016, 08:13:48 pm
It could be interesting to see how that wildling lass Osha deals with Ramsay.

Yes, it could!

 :o
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 16, 2016, 10:56:11 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 17, 2016, 09:27:23 am
(click to show/hide)


(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 17, 2016, 10:46:16 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on May 17, 2016, 10:55:06 am
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 17, 2016, 11:30:53 am
(click to show/hide)


(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on May 19, 2016, 03:44:04 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 19, 2016, 06:47:41 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on May 19, 2016, 08:19:57 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 22, 2016, 07:43:29 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

Quote from: citoyen
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 23, 2016, 01:03:15 pm
Hold the door!

 :'(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 23, 2016, 01:12:11 pm
Have you chaps not read the books, before all this televisual-type stuff?

No, and I'm not likely to. I have sometimes wondered if it would help me understand a bit better what the blethering heck is going on, but this week's episode has clarified a few matters.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 23, 2016, 01:28:20 pm
(click to show/hide)


(click to show/hide)


(click to show/hide)


(click to show/hide)



Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 23, 2016, 01:28:49 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fboab on May 23, 2016, 06:57:44 pm
Hodor.

 :'(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on May 24, 2016, 08:21:41 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 24, 2016, 09:28:58 am
(click to show/hide)


(click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 24, 2016, 02:23:32 pm
For an effective depiction of Euron, you really need to channel Greebo the cat in human form, as drawn by Paul Kidby:

http://discworld.com/management/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/Greebo-the-Man.png

Quote from: PTerry
Greebo could, in fact, commit sexual harassment simply by sitting very quietly in the next room.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 24, 2016, 02:25:56 pm
Yeah that kinda works well  :thumbsup:


That's not what they've got in GoT
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 24, 2016, 02:31:52 pm
That's not what they've got in GoT

It really doesn't help that the actor has a camp, reedy voice and a slight lisp.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 24, 2016, 02:44:10 pm
Quite
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 24, 2016, 03:36:28 pm
That's not what they've got in GoT

It really doesn't help that the actor has a camp, reedy voice and a slight lisp.

Yebbut he's going to Make The Iron Isles Great Again...  ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 24, 2016, 03:56:16 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 25, 2016, 07:01:02 pm
Seen on facebook:

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/hodor_zpst7twaj7o.jpg)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fboab on May 25, 2016, 10:25:51 pm
Sent by No2Daughter

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: closetleftie on May 27, 2016, 09:12:32 am
Sent by No2Daughter

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 27, 2016, 09:26:59 pm
Too soon, IKEA, too soon... (https://pics.onsizzle.com/okea-hodor-1-29-hodor-natural-door-stopper-wood-aholdthedoor-argoerichdkoller-2572663.png)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruthie on May 27, 2016, 09:28:52 pm
So will he turn into one of those zombies?

 :(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hulver on May 31, 2016, 11:37:39 am
Slowest episode so far in my opinion.

However ...

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 31, 2016, 12:37:59 pm
Slowest episode so far in my opinion.

However ...

(click to show/hide)


(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hulver on May 31, 2016, 01:14:33 pm
Slowest episode so far in my opinion.

However ...

(click to show/hide)


(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 31, 2016, 02:22:14 pm
Slowest episode so far in my opinion.

It's all relative. Just think of it as the calm before the storm apocalypse.

Quote
However ...

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on May 31, 2016, 02:41:33 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on May 31, 2016, 03:45:11 pm
I so wanted Sam to tell his old man to FRO!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 31, 2016, 04:21:43 pm
Well I think he'll get the message  :demon: :thumbsup:


[ooh it's nice to not have to talk behind a spoiler thing :) )
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 31, 2016, 09:55:43 pm
I agree, they couldn't have telegraphed it any more obviously...

I disagree, but then I haven't read the books, so I'm not bringing outside knowledge to the discussion. I had to look up the character you're talking about and even then it wasn't clear to me that Bran's vision was a clue to her impending appearance.

Also, is it just me or is the whole Sam and Ghilly story utterly tedious? Where is it going?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 01, 2016, 03:06:09 pm
I agree, they couldn't have telegraphed it any more obviously...

I disagree, but then I haven't read the books, so I'm not bringing outside knowledge to the discussion. I had to look up the character you're talking about and even then it wasn't clear to me that Bran's vision was a clue to her impending appearance.

In fairness, Brans visions as broadcast were a series of very rapid jump-cuts to represent the 3-Eyed Crow doing a high speed data download before he was killed, so only the broad thematic stuff related to the upcoming war with the White Walkers would have stood out. However, some viewers slowed down the footage or went through it practically on frame by frame basis, and found other things mixed in that were more personally-related to the Starks, like Bran's defenestration and Cat getting her throat cut at the Red Wedding.

The scene with the Freys and Edmure Tully, Jaime being sent to Coventry Riverrun and Brienne being tasked with going south to recruit the Tullys are all signs that the show is about to pick up the last plot line left over from the books that the show hasn't caught up with. The first clue was in the LF-Sansa meeting when he let slip that Brynden Tully had recaptured Riverrun - Brienne's out of position compared with the books as a consequence of changes to Sansa's story arc, so it serves as a reason to get her back south again.

This also explains why we had the "Jaime and Bronn go to Dorne" plot line inflicted on us last season. Book!Jaime was in the Riverlands when Cersei was falling foul of the Faith Militant, but if the show was delaying Jaime going to Riverrun until this season, they needed a reason to get Jaime out of the way when Cersei was doing her Walk of Shame.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 06, 2016, 09:07:14 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on June 06, 2016, 09:25:25 pm
(click to show/hide)
;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 06, 2016, 09:38:00 pm
And lord Percy Percy heir to the duchy of Northumberland!  This gets better and better
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 06, 2016, 10:15:41 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: De Sisti on June 06, 2016, 10:23:50 pm
Haven't seen any episodes yet. Wondering whether to jump on the bandwagon and see what all the hype is about?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 06, 2016, 11:01:01 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on June 14, 2016, 01:59:08 pm
(click to show/hide)
;D

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on June 14, 2016, 03:07:51 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 14, 2016, 10:50:48 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 14, 2016, 11:34:32 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 16, 2016, 12:51:10 pm
https://d13yacurqjgara.cloudfront.net/users/244516/screenshots/2781183/sparrows_vs_mountain.gif ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fboab on June 20, 2016, 07:53:01 pm
Episode 9.

O M G

I have no words.


Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on June 20, 2016, 08:28:43 pm
I know this won't be a popular view but while the staging/filming of the battle scene was technically impressive, in story terms, I thought it was all rather dull.

I think it's just long battle scenes that have that soporific effect on me, especially when certain characters appear to be magically invincible just because they're key to the plot, and the outcome is driven by implausible/poorly explained twists that negates any attempts at 'realism' in the way the fighting is depicted.

But, y'know, the whole bloody internet is raving about what a fantastic episode it was so I'll just shut up now and let everyone else enjoy it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 20, 2016, 11:03:47 pm
Agreed - you can sod off  :P - I just watched it - droooooooooool! ;)


GRRM doesn't give us what we want very often - for once he did - in spades.


Bit of Battle of Cannae there for a while for those who know great historical battles.  For a horrible while I thought it would be the same outcome.


(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 20, 2016, 11:08:00 pm
Technically excellent is understating it incidentally (imnsho  ;) )  - some of those battle scenes were incredible  -imo - I'm not sure I've seen it done better - possibly the opening sequence of Shaving Ryan's Privates.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Valiant on June 21, 2016, 02:32:53 am
WTF was Sansa thinking >:(
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on June 21, 2016, 07:57:02 am
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on June 21, 2016, 08:25:31 am
You wicked girl Sana :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on June 21, 2016, 08:27:57 am
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

I know it's a bit moot now but, who was the last person that Caitlin Stark sat down with at The Red Wedding? Who did she discover was wearing mail under his glad rags and knew what was about to happen once she made the discovery?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 21, 2016, 10:12:41 am
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

I know it's a bit moot now but, who was the last person that Caitlin Stark sat down with at The Red Wedding? Who did she discover was wearing mail under his glad rags and knew what was about to happen once she made the discovery?

That was Roose Bolton.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on June 21, 2016, 12:33:07 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

I know it's a bit moot now but, who was the last person that Caitlin Stark sat down with at The Red Wedding? Who did she discover was wearing mail under his glad rags and knew what was about to happen once she made the discovery?

That was Roose Bolton.

'Sactly. She could have gone hunting for Roose and his offspring.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 21, 2016, 01:11:48 pm
From a practical point of view, it's easier for a guerilla band to go after the low-hanging fruit, and that's the Freys. Plus, there's the question of whether news of Sansa's marriage with Ramsay would even reach the BWB in the first place. Even if it had, the BWB would still have to get to Winterfell and then isolate and capture/kill Roose and Ramsay.

<Sansa> Anyway it's moot. You said so yourself.  ;) </Sansa>

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruthie on June 21, 2016, 02:16:13 pm
I'm almost certain that the same horse was ridden at the Bolton cavalry charge, and Baelish's cavalry charge.

Mind, horses - well known for being politically fickle.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on June 21, 2016, 02:41:22 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 21, 2016, 03:07:57 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on June 21, 2016, 03:44:03 pm
From recollection, ep9 of each season is the "big" one, and the ep10 finale is usually more of a reveal/cliffhanger for next year.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 21, 2016, 04:01:47 pm
Yeah, I think that is the pattern right enough  - it would be hard to top that methinks.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on June 21, 2016, 04:22:38 pm
I think the Mother of Dragons/ Tyrion/ The Masters negotiation scene was very good as well. Simple but effective.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 21, 2016, 04:52:05 pm

Sooooo .... When he (GRRM) finally buckles down and releases Winds of Winter (i.e. the book) - list of things to now remember... since the series has now jumped ahead of the books in every aspect I think.

(click to show/hide)

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 21, 2016, 05:53:21 pm

Sooooo .... When he (GRRM) finally buckles down and releases Winds of Winter (i.e. the book) - list of things to now remember... since the series has now jumped ahead of the books in every aspect I think.

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 21, 2016, 06:24:34 pm
It's so long since I last read the books I've forgotten a lot of that and some of that is lost on me a little these days - you also remind me just how much more complex the books are.


BWB?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 21, 2016, 06:42:14 pm
It's so long since I last read the books I've forgotten a lot of that and some of that is lost on me a little these days - you also remind me just how much more complex the books are.


BWB?

BWB = Brotherhood Without Banners

Edited to add:

Regarding the complexity, that stems in no small part from GRRM's rather.... organic writing process, which he's described as being like gardening - he has an idea of what the endgame is, it's how to get there that's the tricky bit (hence scrapping the planned five-year gap in the story, or unravelling the Mereenese Knot, which led to ADWD taking so long to be written).

ISTR that GRRM said that the next book will see a paring down of the number of POVs as the coming war with the Others comes to the fore, either by killing off characters, or by having characters meet up so only one POV can be used to describe several characters' stories.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 21, 2016, 11:23:19 pm
It must be right PITA being a recruitment consultant in Westeros - no sooner than you've got a position filled, it's open again!

http://westerosrecruitment.com/job_post/spoiler-lord-paramount-north/
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 22, 2016, 10:12:40 am
I really have lost quite a lot of memory of the books - I can't even remember Jon Connington at all apart from the fact that I've heard of the name.  He really does need to GERRON WITH IT >:(   ;)


(Yes, GRRM does not work for me - I know that  ;) )
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 22, 2016, 10:18:39 am
Ah.... the Golden Company - yes I've got him.  :thumbsup:


Yes I've seen that he's said that.  He's kind of done that in the TV series too - very much cut short over the myriad of plot lines in the book - although that's of course de rigeur when going from book to film/miniseries anyway.


ICNBA to read the advanced chapters anymore - there's too much gap between them and the actual book too and also, when you do get the book you've already read half of it which is annoying.  Robert Jordan did that with his long running epic TWOT too - bluddy irritating - just write the fucking book already.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 22, 2016, 11:05:16 am
GRRM was writing the screenplay for one episode per season for the first four seasons, but he's had no direct involvement since, in an attempt to cut down on the displacement activity that was slowing down writing TWOW. I think his only input from then on was to cue Benioff and Weiss into the basic outline of the endgame.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on June 22, 2016, 12:40:11 pm
Glad to hear it - I've now been 'reading' it for 20 years (I just worked that out - frightening  - I had a first edition of the 1st book - mmm eBay was lucrative  8)  ) - it would be good if it got finished before either the author dies (that happened with Jordan) or I do.  :-)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on June 27, 2016, 03:21:49 am
Speechless. Season 7 is shaping up to be a good one.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Assasin on June 27, 2016, 02:56:39 pm
i wonder what Ep 10 will have?
A bit of wildfire for the high sparrow i hope........
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on June 27, 2016, 04:14:04 pm
i wonder what Ep 10 will have?
A bit of wildfire for the high sparrow i hope........

To rework the old joke...

How do you make a sparrow go woof?

Also: anyone for a Frey Bentos?  ;D
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on June 27, 2016, 09:19:32 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on June 27, 2016, 10:02:25 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Valiant on June 28, 2016, 02:48:00 am
That episode was made of win.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Dibdib on June 28, 2016, 11:22:40 am
(click to show/hide)

*gigglesnort*
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruthie on August 10, 2016, 08:12:03 pm
When you think about it, Cersei's children all being dead is a kind of karmic mirroring of Kaitlyn Stark.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Séamas M. on August 10, 2016, 11:01:07 pm
For anyone that wants an amusing way to catch up on most of the fuss.

(somewhat NSFW, but it is GOT)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on December 10, 2016, 03:31:38 pm
This household has finally got around to watching season 6.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Andrij on December 24, 2016, 10:15:32 pm
I've just finished binge-watching seasons 1-6 (started a few days ago). 

 :thumbsup:

Now I can join the others in waiting impatiently for season 7.  Haven't read the books yet, but will in due course.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: red marley on December 25, 2016, 08:04:12 am
I've just finished binge-watching seasons 1-6 (started a few days ago).

Blimey, that's over 50 hours of watching. Can you still feel your legs?

Happy Christmas!

*enjoying a relaxing bath before the chaos that is a family Christmas with under tens gets fully underway.*
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mr Larrington on December 25, 2016, 10:07:23 am
And don't forget to buy a copy of "Winter Is Coming1" by, er, Carolyne Larrington plug plug.

1: Soon to be available in some variety of Chinese!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Canardly on December 25, 2016, 10:59:29 am
Having waded through 1000 or so hard back pages of A Dance with Dragons, suffering concussion occasionally as I read it in bed, I now find the next one is not published yet. Strewth.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on December 25, 2016, 01:02:42 pm
Having waded through 1000 or so hard back pages of A Dance with Dragons, suffering concussion occasionally as I read it in bed, I now find the next one is not published yet. Strewth.


Welcome to my world.  I've been reading it since 1996!


I had the same problem with Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time.  He took so long over that he managed to die before he finished it.  I hold the same fears for Ice and Fire frankly.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Canardly on December 26, 2016, 12:05:51 am
Is what happened with the Dune saga as well, sigh. (His son did not compare).
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Mr Larrington on December 26, 2016, 09:34:10 am
I've got the same worry about Doug Nye's history of BRM.  His co-conspirator Tony Rudd died in between volumes 2 and 3.  And volume 4 will have the H-16 in it.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Wascally Weasel on December 26, 2016, 10:46:55 am
Is what happened with the Dune saga as well, sigh. (His son did not compare).

And the prequels, dear God the prequels.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: red marley on December 26, 2016, 01:41:11 pm
Still, it could be worse. Stephen Donaldson managed to get to the end of his 10 Chronicles of Thomas Covenant.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on December 26, 2016, 09:13:43 pm
Is what happened with the Dune saga as well, sigh. (His son did not compare).

And the prequels, dear God the prequels.


To be fair - even Frank Herbert couldn't write them very well after God Emperor ;)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on December 28, 2016, 05:51:42 pm
Is what happened with the Dune saga as well, sigh. (His son did not compare).

And the prequels, dear God the prequels.


To be fair - even Frank Herbert couldn't write them very well after God Emperor ;)

It's all relative because the first books set the bar very high. Even so, Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse Dune are miles ahead of the dreck that Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson saw fit to inflict on the Dune fandom.

I happen to quite like Chapterhouse Dune.  :demon:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on December 29, 2016, 01:04:30 pm
Oh undoubtedly, for me they kind of disappeared up their own backside of pretension from Book 4 onwards really.  I lost interest in what on earth was going on from Heretics onwards. God Emperor remained OK but the first three (and particularly Dune itself) are amongst the best books I've ever read, so indeed, the bar was almost unobtainably reached  after them.


I tried reading a few paragraphs of one of the prequels once.  God no! :facepalm:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on July 17, 2017, 08:20:34 pm
S07E01

 :thumbsup:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on July 21, 2017, 10:54:05 pm
"Shall we begin?"
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jakob on July 25, 2017, 03:14:58 am
The writing and direction has taken a serious turn for the worse. I'm gonna struggle to justify spending time on it this season.
The war council at Daeneris new home was some of the worst acting I've seen in a long time.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hulver on July 25, 2017, 09:21:32 am
The writing and direction has taken a serious turn for the worse. I'm gonna struggle to justify spending time on it this season.
The war council at Daeneris new home was some of the worst acting I've seen in a long time.

Yes, I'm fairly unimpressed so far.
(click to show/hide)

Just watching it to get to the end now, but I hope it improves.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on July 25, 2017, 09:34:26 am
Just watching it to get to the end now, but I hope it improves.

Exactly this. I've invested too much time in it to walk out so close to the end, but I'm watching it more out of habit than because I want to. There were some proper cringingly bad moments in last night's episode.

The Greyjoys are supposed to be comedy characters, right? You certainly can't take them seriously as military leaders.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on August 08, 2017, 11:50:20 am
So, is he dead?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: hulver on August 08, 2017, 12:17:43 pm
So, is he dead?

(click to show/hide)

I'm sure some Deus Ex Machina will be along early in the next episode.

Personally, I'm not feeling any tension about the fate of the characters at all now.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on August 08, 2017, 12:21:24 pm
I'm sure some Deus Ex Machina will be along early in the next episode.

(click to show/hide)

Quote
Personally, I'm not feeling any tension about the fate of the characters at all now.

Same here. I also found the battle rather dull - probably because it was too one-sided.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on August 08, 2017, 06:53:49 pm
...I also found the battle rather dull - probably because it was too one-sided.

Pfft... we thought it was F*cking awesome. Dothraki hoard firing arrows stood on horse-back, Boadicea-a-like riding a winged napalm machine, flying blood and guts - what's not to like?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on August 08, 2017, 07:18:12 pm
Dothraki hoard firing arrows stood on horse-back

Yeah, ok, that was pretty good.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PaulF on August 08, 2017, 07:21:30 pm
The battle was always going to be one sided given that Danaerys had air superiority. Once she'd blown a hole in the shield war the Dothraki could flood through. Of course she should have flamed the length of the line rather than pushing holes in it but that's another discussion
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on August 09, 2017, 11:11:31 pm
So, is he dead?

Well, he is certainly a tad moist.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on August 09, 2017, 11:15:49 pm
The battle was always going to be one sided given that Danaerys had air superiority. Once she'd blown a hole in the shield war the Dothraki could flood through. Of course she should have flamed the length of the line rather than pushing holes in it but that's another discussion

For that matter, why did she even bring the Dothraki to the party? Seems a bit of a frivolous waste of lives.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on August 09, 2017, 11:38:29 pm
The Dothraki are the GoT equivalant of the Inter City Firm or the Chelsea Headhunters. They love a bit of a rumble. They know, deep down in their guts, that some of them are going to get a serious dicking BUT, they still weigh in and mix it up anyway so, she couldn't have gone without them, even if she tried.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Ruthie on August 21, 2017, 08:25:48 pm
That last one was downright boring with all the 'ooh surprise surprise dragons just in the nick of time' stuff. But I never saw the last bit coming!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on August 21, 2017, 08:30:29 pm
That last one was downright boring with all the 'ooh surprise surprise dragons just in the nick of time' stuff. But I never saw the last bit coming!

I did. This one was utterly predictable. There's only so far Dragon CGI and previous character investment can carry one through - and I'm flirting with that limit. Only one more to go though.

Please - don't make this end up like The Hobbit - where it only sits on the shelf for OCD completeness.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jakob on August 22, 2017, 07:30:19 am
That last one was downright boring with all the 'ooh surprise surprise dragons just in the nick of time' stuff. But I never saw the last bit coming!

The moment it crashed, I went "Oh, now they got a dragon too!!".
Action set pieces are still good, but the rest is terrible. Tyrion, who used to be the highlight, is outright awful. Danys attempt at looking love-struck was gringe-worthy. I just want it to end now!!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Cunobelin on August 22, 2017, 06:07:09 pm
Still, it could be worse. Stephen Donaldson managed to get to the end of his 10 Chronicles of Thomas Covenant.

Did he actually do anything?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on August 28, 2017, 07:02:21 pm
OK OK... Sssshhhh!!! We're about to watch S07E07...

* dims lights *
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on August 28, 2017, 08:48:27 pm
Right! Thanks :)

As you were...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on August 31, 2017, 08:54:24 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on August 31, 2017, 09:10:45 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on August 31, 2017, 09:29:31 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on August 31, 2017, 09:34:37 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on August 31, 2017, 10:12:43 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Riggers on March 29, 2018, 12:01:52 pm
I've just finished watching all of Series 1 now. Have also been lent 2 and 3 as well.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Riggers on April 13, 2018, 09:20:06 am
Finished series 2 last night!

Still think the books are better!
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Canardly on April 13, 2018, 09:35:23 am
The few episodes I have watched impressed me with how closely they followed the narrative in the books.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 08, 2019, 09:42:28 am
The books are always better.  I've read these books since 1996 - I even had (sold it) a 1st edition copy of the first one.


Seeing as I've now waited about 15 YEARS for these printed word thingies since A Feast for Crows (book 4) and been rewarded with ONE book (A dance with dragons) in that time - I would watch the series and forget the books if I was you.  They are now talking prequel TV series with this being the last series of the main storyline.


The general consensus, last I looked on when Book 6 (Winds of Winter) would come out - from the book fans - was on just how far up, GRRM could stick his next book - and where it was going up was in no way uncertain.  I tend to agree - he has just abandoned the books frankly.  He will never finish them.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: T42 on May 08, 2019, 11:14:45 am
Reminds me of Joe Poyer, an American author who wrote a couple of excellent novels under the heading A Time of War in the early 80s. They were intended to follow the fortunes of six officers of both sides throughout WW2, but he dropped it after two books.  I heard later that his publishers pissed him off so he told them to stick it; he was already making a mint out of non-fiction books about weapons.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 08, 2019, 01:11:49 pm
The other thing of course is that even if he does finally finish them you are going to know what's going to happen in the main story arc - something that rather spoiled the first few series of the TV series (for me) as I'd read the books already.


Slightly spoilery reading some of the above comments so major differences exist..
 
(click to show/hide)
But things like the real identity of Jon Snow, fate of the wall and Night King etc... are not going to be different in the books - by admission of the Author Himself.  Hence - are they really worth reading anyway?....



Not that I am complaining, it's been worth it for the fine TV series alone - and GRRM is his own man - he can do what he chooses with his life.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 14, 2019, 12:04:56 pm
So - wowser - we were rather blown away by the penultimate episode last night  - spectacular does not do it justice.


And then I wake up this morning have a look at the reviews and see that almost everybody is hating on it....


Any love for last nights episode out there?


To be fair, many of the things the haters are saying are true.* But I still enjoyed it thoroughly.


* Proper horrendous spoilers under here if you've not watched yet - you have been warned.
(click to show/hide)


Oh well, perhaps I will finish off the books if and when they come out to see if GRRM can do a better job than D&D have done with the TV series finale.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on May 14, 2019, 05:09:48 pm
In keeping with my relationships with other overdone franchises (Avengers for example), I'm finding the number of fucks I'm prepared to give are rapidly diminishing. I've found the last two seasons tough going, mostly because the plots are more and more contrived; to the point where I mostly won't care if they all fucking die - they're pretty much all unpleasant people. Except for Davos. He's OK.

(click to show/hide)

I'll stick with it to the bitter end (only ninety more minutes Chris) for completionist reasons.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 14, 2019, 05:22:02 pm
In keeping with my relationships with other overdone franchises (Avengers for example), I'm finding the number of fucks I'm prepared to give are rapidly diminishing. I've found the last two seasons tough going, mostly because the plots are more and more contrived; to the point where I mostly won't care if they all fucking die - they're pretty much all unpleasant people. Except for Davos. He's OK.

(click to show/hide)

I'll stick with it to the bitter end (only ninety more minutes Chris) for completionist reasons.


(click to show/hide)


I guess I just try and enjoy the spectacle.  I *can* see why others are hating on it - I guess I just don't invest that much emotional energy in it.  It's only a telly programme.


If he ends the books like that (though my patience is almost done on him actually ever writing them) though I shall stop.  I have done that with other series that went to shit after a while - notably the Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind which went from being fucking awesome to being massively fucking awful and then downhill from there from about book five onwards.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on May 14, 2019, 05:30:20 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 14, 2019, 05:33:17 pm
Agreed.  Mua ha ha ha - now watch it and find out what I'm agreeing to latecomers! :demon:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: PaulF on May 14, 2019, 06:13:57 pm
So, who thinks that:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 14, 2019, 06:51:32 pm
My thoughts precisely  :thumbsup:

I successfully predicted her last kill :smug:
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 14, 2019, 06:57:52 pm
So, who thinks that:

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on May 14, 2019, 07:06:56 pm
So, who thinks that:

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 15, 2019, 09:03:13 am
I enjoyed the latest episode, though I understand some of the reservations people have expressed. M'colleague was absolutely furious at it...

(click to show/hide)

Like Chris S, my interest in GoT has been steadily diminishing and since around the middle of the fifth series I've only stuck with it because of the promise of a conclusion - having invested so much time into it, I might as well see it through now.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 15, 2019, 11:21:51 am
I enjoyed the latest episode, though I understand some of the reservations people have expressed. M'colleague was absolutely furious at it...

(click to show/hide)

Like Chris S, my interest in GoT has been steadily diminishing and since around the middle of the fifth series I've only stuck with it because of the promise of a conclusion - having invested so much time into it, I might as well see it through now.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 15, 2019, 02:23:36 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 15, 2019, 03:13:32 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on May 15, 2019, 05:32:31 pm
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Pippa on May 16, 2019, 09:34:27 pm
I think this is a pretty good summary of GoT so far  ;D (the original twitter post doesn't contain spoilers - can't vouch for the replies)

https://twitter.com/Gabypincin/status/1127815083055353862 (https://twitter.com/Gabypincin/status/1127815083055353862)

As for the penultimate episode, there was lots about it I didn't like...

(click to show/hide)

But did I find the penultimate episode entertaining? Yes absolutely. More than the earlier episodes in the this season.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: rafletcher on May 17, 2019, 09:46:16 am
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48303921
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 17, 2019, 10:49:08 am
Tis a shame people can't get this angry about disease, poverty, war and despotism huh?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 17, 2019, 10:38:14 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48303921

‘Game Of Thrones’ Showrunners Disappointed With How Quality Of Fans Has Dropped Off Over Past Couple Seasons (https://entertainment.theonion.com/game-of-thrones-showrunners-disappointed-with-how-qua-1834843021)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: CommuteTooFar on May 19, 2019, 03:25:45 pm
I am waiting for the books, Winds Of Winter and Dreams of Spring.
I am disappointed by the final two series on the telly.  The characters and plot have been undeveloped. 

A youtube commentator postulated Martin process was to write an outline then write the details of character and detailed development to get to justify the framework.  Unfortunately the show runners had their eyes on the next project and just squeezed the outline they were given without the development of the characters and the story. It seems to me that they are just ticking off points in the outline without explaining the cause.

I have not seen the current series, although I will still buy the blu-ray. I felt the penultimate series had lost its way.  It had clearly lost something without the support of the books.

Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: geraldc on May 20, 2019, 11:55:51 am
On the whole a good ending. There will be a massive hole in my life which I expect to fill with Watchmen.

(click to show/hide)

It was the first show that I ever binged (well the first 3 series over the space of a bank holiday weekend a few years ago)

Title: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 20, 2019, 09:39:09 pm
I thought the ending was surprisingly satisfactory. Favourite bit was What Drogon Did.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Chris S on May 20, 2019, 09:44:05 pm
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 21, 2019, 10:01:37 am
(click to show/hide)


Agreed - was a nice if slightly over-idealistic ending I thought.


(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: citoyen on May 21, 2019, 10:32:31 am
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 21, 2019, 11:31:56 am
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 21, 2019, 06:23:44 pm
I'd liken GoT to a diver in a 10m platform competition. They've aced the compulsory dives of low-medium difficulty early on, but on the last, most complex dive, they missed a half twist, didn't maintain form, yet somehow nailed the landing with minimal splash when they were a fraction of a second from smacking their calves on the surface of the water.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: Jakob on May 23, 2019, 06:29:45 am
I thought the ending was decent. Didn't think Jon would kill her, so that was a nice surprise. Sure the whole season was a bit rushed, but there was a lot of stuff to catch up with.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: spesh on May 23, 2019, 12:41:24 pm
Thanks to Air New Zealand’s offer to fly GRRM down under so he can have some peace and quiet to finish The Winds of Winter, he’s jokingly promised a deadline of next year's Worldcon where he will acting as Toastmaster for the Hugo Awards ceremony. No date has been announced, but this usually takes place in August. If he doesn’t meet it, New Zealand gets to arrest him. ;D

http://georgerrmartin.com/notablog/2019/05/21/thanks-new-zealand/

So some time in the next 14-15 months, eh? We'll see...
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on May 23, 2019, 11:26:45 pm
I've go to say that I found the whole of season 8 a bit meh.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: bludger on May 23, 2019, 11:37:45 pm
First two eps of season 8 were great telly - 8-02 particularly. After that it was a train wreck for me. I just didn't care after 8-04.

'Give me something for the pain and let me die...' quoth the show.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 24, 2019, 07:38:07 am
If anyone is missing it already, the addiction can return next year - rumours of its demise appear premature.  They're already filming the prequel series due out next year.


Only one character the same - the Night King - set 5000 years in the past.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: CommuteTooFar on May 24, 2019, 12:23:00 pm
If anyone is missing it already, the addiction can return next year - rumours of its demise appear premature.  They're already filming the prequel series due out next year.


Only one character the same - the Night King - set 5000 years in the past.

Writer/Producer Jane Goldman so is it going to be Stardust or Kingsman?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 24, 2019, 12:41:13 pm
Are you suggesting she is a two-trick pony?
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: CommuteTooFar on May 24, 2019, 01:29:55 pm
No .  Kick Ass (but not Kick Ass 2). Big Fat Quiz Of The Year. Lots of good stuff.

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0963359/?ref_=tt_ov_wr

 (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0963359/?ref_=tt_ov_wr)
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: caerau on May 24, 2019, 01:54:31 pm
Cool - I may have misread you - and if so apologise.... quite.  Both of those sounded like a pretty good track record for me  :thumbsup:


[edit] - ooh minor claim to fame alert.  My wife used to be married to a childhood friend of Frank Skinner - she met Jonathon Ross and Jane Goldman at his This is Your Life thing on telly.  She refused a photo with them at the time as she didn't like his TV persona -  a mistake she regrets as she's since found out that he's allegedly a very nice guy in real life, ho ho.
Title: Re: Game of Thrones
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on May 29, 2019, 12:00:46 am
I watched the best programme of the season tonight- GoT- The Last Watch, a 2+ hour behind the scenes making of special.
I love the background detail specials included on lots of DVD and Bluray so this was great.