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Title: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on November 21, 2011, 08:02:59 pm
I have been spending my idle hours mulling over the calender for next year and have long fancied a good ride in the Pennines. Anybody know any details for the Pendle 600?

It looks promising and offers A(2) and only £5 entry fee.

It also promises 9,000m of climbing so I think a fast time is out for me.

Title: Re: Pendal 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: martint235 on November 21, 2011, 08:21:11 pm
Not a lot of information I'm afraid other than it's Pendle rather than Pendal. Sorry to be picky but I'm from there, it's even the name of my cat!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendal 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on November 21, 2011, 08:33:27 pm
BB and Martin, Andy Corless was chortling over this one after we finished the Last Chance Dales Dance in October.  I can't remember all the details but I think it's going to be doing Buttertubs from the north, Nick of Pendle, Park Rash (Coverdale) and possibly even Rosedale Chimney - and that's just the ones I heard before I fainted.  The scenery will be absolutely fabulous and if I do it I should get a really good look at it because I'll be walking a lot of it.  Oh and it would be churlish to miss out Fleet Moss while we're there.  I'm just hoping I'm away on holiday that weekend; point of honour, don't you know?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on November 22, 2011, 04:45:55 pm
I have this information as of now.

2012 is the 400th anniversary of the Pendle Witch Trials of (Yes you guessed it - 1612)!

To commemmorate this I've decided to put together my knowledge of 20+ years of cycling in Northern England and organise this 400-mile ride (well nearly - 378-miles to be exact, or 609km in Audax terms); around Northern England.

Obviously, I'm still in the middle stages of planning; but the ride will be a complete anti-clockwise circuit of northern England, visiting both coasts. The route heads out of Lancashire through the southernmost part of the Yorkshire Dales before climbing over the North Yorkshire Moors to Robin Hood's Bay on the east coast. A long leg around the northern Pennines follows, before taking the ride into the Lake District. After visiting the west coast, the route returns to Lancashire crossing the southern Lakeland Passes and the Forest of Bowland.

Andy Corless

Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on November 22, 2011, 04:54:04 pm
If I can wangle this with her indoors I am in.

Not that it is a deciding factor but will there be sleeping provision on route?
Title: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DanialW on November 22, 2011, 07:11:22 pm
Sounds brilliant
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mattc on November 22, 2011, 08:23:16 pm
Not that it is a deciding factor but will there be sleeping provision on route?

You read my mind !

Not a deciding factor, but very significant on a tough route with possible exposure to 'weather'.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on November 23, 2011, 12:20:33 am
This sounds like an excellent ride in some staggeringly beautiful parts of the world, rather upset that I will be on holiday that weekend. Grrr.

If it's practical as a perm/DIY, then maybe one to put on the 'to do' list sadly.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on November 23, 2011, 08:09:17 am
This is very interesting....

It's gonna be a toss up between this and the Bryan Chapman for me. (Mrs J has made it quite clear that I can't do both:( ). And I've never done the BCM, so it's gonna be a tough call.

Do you see it as something that will run in future years too?

Also, by 'lakeland passes' are we talking Hardknott & Wrynose?

 
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: frankly frankie on November 23, 2011, 10:06:43 am
... the ride will be a complete anti-clockwise circuit of northern England ...

you mean ... widdershins ...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Karla on November 23, 2011, 11:30:09 am
Dammit Andy, you've got me tempted.  This is not good for my new year's resolution to do less audax!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: vorsprung on November 23, 2011, 03:45:35 pm
This is not good for my new year's resolution to do less audax!

Same problem here
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on November 23, 2011, 04:25:14 pm
Following on from my previous post:

With the planned route starting from Pendleton, the controls are at:

Ripon 76km
Robin Hood's Bay 169km
Stokesley 218km
Barnard Castle 273km
Hexham 331km
Melmerby 383km
Seascale 474km
Carnforth 556km
 
There's a planned sleep control in, or somewhere near Melmerby, whilst Seascale control will also be a pre-booked sports hall and will include food/sleep arrangements if required.

There's obviously some confusion over the route, sorry to dissappoint, but there's no Nick o' Pendle; Buttertubs or Park Rash. However, these climbs are included on some of my forthcoming 200s next year!

On the route itself, some of the main climbs include:

Sutton Bank (optional)
Rosedale Chimney
Robin Hood's Bay
Eggleston Common
Edmundbyers Common
Hartside Pass
Whinlatter Pass
Hardkn*tt & Wryn*se
Trough of Bowland

Hope this is of help for now.

There'll be a website for this event in the new year.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600


Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on November 23, 2011, 05:04:30 pm
OK, Andy, I obviously remembered it wrong!  You can imagine I'm desperately disappointed that there is no Park Rash, Nick Of Pendle and Buttertubs - not!  Still don't know about hols yet but I'm getting the maps out!

Cheers and thanks for some good rides this summer

Peter
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on November 23, 2011, 10:04:58 pm
No one will ride up the Rosedale Chimney - that I can confirm now.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on November 23, 2011, 10:11:43 pm
Cecil Ilsley, who, I would guess (and I hope he will forgive me if I'm wrong) is in his sixties, rode Andy's last ride of the summer, the Last Chance Dales Dance 200 which is "only" 3AAA.  He has a 26 front and 28 back (I think) and told me he'd got up the Chimney on it.  He paused at a bend but he did ride the whole thing.  So, he'll get up it, for one.  Or did you mean that the route will take riders DOWN it?  That doesn't sound like Andy!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on November 24, 2011, 08:12:10 am
I imagine there won't be many riding all of Hardnott either. Especially with about 500k in the legs by then.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Karla on November 24, 2011, 12:08:05 pm
No one will ride up the Rosedale Chimney - that I can confirm now.


I'm now even more tempted, just to prove you wrong.  Grrrrrr  :P
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mattc on November 24, 2011, 12:19:34 pm
Google maps shows the shortest route to Ripon being over Greenhow Hill - on my road atlas THERE BE CHEVRONS aplenty! Looks 'orrible.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on November 24, 2011, 12:40:32 pm
http://www.climbbybike.com/climb.asp?col=Rosedale-Chimney-Bank&qryMountainID=8699

Claims to be the steepest bit of road in Britain.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: fungus on November 24, 2011, 12:51:42 pm
This is very tempting, especially with accomodation available before & after.
Hmmmm  :-\
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Maidenhead Phil on November 24, 2011, 01:44:20 pm
It sounds very... scenic.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Steve GT on November 24, 2011, 02:11:35 pm
No one will ride up the Rosedale Chimney - that I can confirm now.
That depends on the miles / climbing you have done before you get there...
I managed it on a hilly sportive ride last year after 140 Km's and 4 other really tough climbs. ;)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Karla on November 24, 2011, 02:34:05 pm
No one will ride up the Rosedale Chimney - that I can confirm now.
That depends on the miles / climbing you have done before you get there...
I managed it on a hilly sportive ride last year after 140 Km's and 4 other really tough climbs. ;)

As the ride is anticlockwise, riders will climb it quite early, after a similar sort of distance (but probably less hills, if you did the Fred).  The real test will be Hardknott, which is twice the hill IMO and which will come much later in the ride - and then they'll have to do Wrynose..
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Steve GT on November 24, 2011, 02:47:45 pm
Totally agree with you.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on November 24, 2011, 03:08:34 pm
If there isn't a control between Seascale and Carnforth there would be nothing to stop you going over Ulpha Fell, then from Dunnerdale to Broughton Mills, then to Lowick Green on the minor roads, and to Greenodd, then a fast ride on the A590. The A590 wouldn't be very nice, but the route from Eskdale to Lowick Green is nice, and it's quiet.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mattc on November 24, 2011, 04:28:32 pm
We still need more info - it's not yet clear who's gonna have the biggest dick on this ride.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on November 24, 2011, 04:59:14 pm
Exit Stage Left is right (work that one out)!. There is another route between Seascale and Carnforth. However, looking at OS Landranger map 96 (Barrow-in-Furness), the climb over Ulpha Fell looks equally demanding as Hardknott & Wrynose, so I'm not sure it's worth the detour as you'd add a few extra miles on as well. I'm also planning a photographer on Hardknott so there'll be no photo either if you detour. The A590 isn't the nicest road in the world either, although there are some other A-roads to contend with on the event. They include: A59 - Gisburn; A61 - Thirsk; A171 - Whitby; A67 - Darlington; A686 - Alston; A66 - Keswick & A6 - Carnforth.

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on November 24, 2011, 05:10:33 pm
I've no chance of getting round this, but I may be able to lend a hand at the Seascale control (I live close by) :)

I don't think you would gain too much by going over Ulpha or Corney Fell, both are tough climbs in their own right - although I think Corney fell is a max 20% and Ulpha not much more, and they both add on distance

I've just had a silly thought. My house is at about 430k, that would be a good sleep stop (brain reminds Marcus he is in not fit state to attempt a hilly 600)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on November 24, 2011, 06:28:09 pm
Some route photos for the Pendle 600:

Sutton Bank, North Yorkshire
(http://www.yorkshire-guide.co.uk/images/sutton-bank.jpg)

Rosedale Chimney, North Yorkshire
(http://s0.geograph.org.uk/geophotos/01/33/05/1330561_cf8b58a9.jpg)

Hartside Pass, Cumbria
(http://www.drivingroads.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Hartside_Pass1.jpg)

View from Whinlatter Pass, Cumbria
(http://www.visitcumbria.com/julian/whinlatter-c3006.jpg)

Hardknott Pass, Cumbria
(http://www.visitcumbria.com/photos/hardknott-ck.jpg)

Wrynose Pass, with Hardknott Pass in the background, Cumbria
(http://www.samwise.smugmug.com/photos/196730313-M.jpg)

Trough of Bowland, Lancashire
(http://www.ribblevalleyrail.co.uk/images/Trough_of_Bowland_1_.jpg)


Andy Corless

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mattc on November 24, 2011, 06:33:24 pm
This could be next year's walking weekend!
(I sincerely hope it's not BRM only)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Charlie Boy on November 24, 2011, 06:38:04 pm
This could be next year's walking weekend!
My thoughts entirely. At least the sun seems to be out...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on November 24, 2011, 06:57:05 pm
And all day Monday AND tuesday to recover thanks to lizzie.

I've cycled a little in trough of bowland in my youth, but would love to have been available for this one, looks amazing! Please offer it as a perm at some point Andy.

Really great photos as well!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on November 24, 2011, 08:42:47 pm
I have been looking at possible routes and am wondering how Rosedale Chimney is climbed. The climb is done in a south westerly direction and I think it must be on the Ripon to Robin Hood's Bay section - which is mainly north easterly.
 ???
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Steve GT on November 25, 2011, 12:49:19 pm
Andy, will there be a control in Robin Hoods Bay?
Nobody really talks about  that road from the seaside to the car park. I have never cycled up it, as I have only visited Robin Hoods Bay by car. Walking up is bad enough, I doubt I could get up there on a bike without walking.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on November 25, 2011, 04:44:45 pm
Robin Hood's Bay
(http://www.hmayall.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/sunRHB562.jpg)

There is a control here!

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mattc on November 25, 2011, 04:48:02 pm
Is it waaaaaay over on the LH edge of the photo - at the top of the hill?  :D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Maidenhead Phil on November 25, 2011, 04:54:56 pm
Andy, will there be a control in Robin Hoods Bay?
Nobody really talks about  that road from the seaside to the car park. I have never cycled up it, as I have only visited Robin Hoods Bay by car. Walking up is bad enough, I doubt I could get up there on a bike without walking.

You mean this one here?

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-CPms3XH8NQU/Ts_IF04JGII/AAAAAAAAG3k/YRmQQQtFPD4/s1280/rhb.jpg)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Steve GT on November 25, 2011, 10:32:19 pm
Yes thats the one.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on January 07, 2012, 10:11:43 pm
Just booked Blackburn TL for the Sunday after the ride. £19 - good deal.

Am I correct in assuming that the A2 will be Friday and Saturday night? Sleeping bag in hall type facilities on the Friday and what ever happens on Saturday.

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: αdαmsκι on January 08, 2012, 08:20:49 pm
Having read this thread, I've made a mental note about this ride as it sounds like it could be legendary, and for me the fact it's on a Bank Holiday weekend is very useful. Defiantly a ride to do on the geared bike.

I don't think you would gain too much by going over Ulpha or Corney Fell, both are tough climbs in their own right - although I think Corney fell is a max 20% and Ulpha not much more, and they both add on distance

If riding Seascale > Carnforth by choice then I'd opt to go over Corney Fell (assuming it's not Sellafield o'clock) over Hardknott & Wynrose. Corney is long, but it's not overly step, although there's a number of decent climbs one would have to do after Corney. However, I'll just do what I'm told / forced into by info controls.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on March 30, 2012, 10:30:58 pm
Well I'm entered, however I am sure this will NOT be an easy ride, but certainly one to remember by the fire, (with my pipe  ??? and slippers  ::-)...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on April 01, 2012, 04:10:29 pm
Dammit Andy, you've got me tempted.  This is not good for my new year's resolution to do less audax!

You can call in on me mam in Darlo for tea and sarnies.

I'm wondering how it goes up Rosedale Chimney, too - you'd need a couple of extra controls.

Looks like a cracking route, through some of my favourite places. Well done, Andy.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: αdαmsκι on April 22, 2012, 08:18:00 pm
I'd thought about doing this ride, but something else has come up. However, I'd already booked a family room in the Burnely Travelodge (http://www.travelodge.co.uk/hotels/118/Burnley-hotel) for the Friday night, which is about 13 km from Pendleton. The room cost me £19. Does anyone want it for, say, a tenner?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on April 22, 2012, 09:15:51 pm
I'd thought about doing this ride, but something else has come up. However, I'd already booked a family room in the Burnely Travelodge (http://www.travelodge.co.uk/hotels/118/Burnley-hotel) for the Friday night, which is about 13 km from Pendleton. The room cost me £19. Does anyone want it for, say, a tenner?
I'll take it.

What type of room is it? If there is another rider wanting to share I am up for what my children call "stranger danger".
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: αdαmsκι on April 22, 2012, 10:03:11 pm
What type of room is it? If there is another rider wanting to share I am up for what my children call "stranger danger".

Cool. Tis a family room, whatever that means. I'll PM you details.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on April 23, 2012, 07:07:38 am
I'd thought about doing this ride, but something else has come up. However, I'd already booked a family room in the Burnely Travelodge (http://www.travelodge.co.uk/hotels/118/Burnley-hotel) for the Friday night, which is about 13 km from Pendleton. The room cost me £19. Does anyone want it for, say, a tenner?
I'll take it.

What type of room is it? If there is another rider wanting to share I am up for what my children call "stranger danger".

Ridehard and I would love to join you if the room is still available?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CramCycle on April 23, 2012, 02:25:58 pm
In like Sin, looks like fun. Now ot convince the OH that I am allowed travel accross the water twice in one month.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on April 28, 2012, 11:18:25 pm
Ridehard and I would love to join you if the room is still available?

If not, then I've got a room booked for Sunday and Monday in the Blackburn Travelodge.
It's handy being on a 4 day weekend. Anyone up for some touring on the Monday and Tuesday?
I'll be on my fixed. I'm not sure it's worth gearing down. I'd need such a low gear to get up those hills I'd be spinning at 200rpm on the flat.
Or maybe I should use my mountain bike, with very low gears and hydraulic disk brakes...?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on April 29, 2012, 01:29:02 pm
Ridehard and I would love to join you if the room is still available?

If not, then I've got a room booked for Sunday and Monday in the Blackburn Travelodge.
It's handy being on a 4 day weekend. Anyone up for some touring on the Monday and Tuesday?
I'll be on my fixed. I'm not sure it's worth gearing down. I'd need such a low gear to get up those hills I'd be spinning at 200rpm on the flat.
Or maybe I should use my mountain bike, with very low gears and hydraulic disk brakes...?
I have booked the Blackburn TL on Sunday as well. Never know might end up in the pub  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on April 30, 2012, 06:03:23 pm
Ridehard and I would love to join you if the room is still available?

If not, then I've got a room booked for Sunday and Monday in the Blackburn Travelodge.
It's handy being on a 4 day weekend. Anyone up for some touring on the Monday and Tuesday?
I'll be on my fixed. I'm not sure it's worth gearing down. I'd need such a low gear to get up those hills I'd be spinning at 200rpm on the flat.
Or maybe I should use my mountain bike, with very low gears and hydraulic disk brakes...?
There are some 33% climbs on the route in Yorkshire and Cumbria.

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on April 30, 2012, 06:12:28 pm
I've ridden up Rosedale on a geared bike and down it on fixed. I've never seen Hardknott in the flesh.
I know I can't ride those hills on fixed, but they are just a few miles out of almost 400. It's all the other hills. There's the 1:4 to Robin Hood's Bay which will be another stroll for me. I know I can get up a reasonably steep hill of about 1:6 on 53/17 fixed, but not if it's too long, but the bigger gear would mean more speed on the flatter bits and downhills.
I'll probably use a 69" fixed (the gear of love) as I did on the Elenith. Probably bring some spare brake blocks too. I think I'm more worried about the descents.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on April 30, 2012, 07:33:27 pm
Ridehard and I would love to join you if the room is still available?

If not, then I've got a room booked for Sunday and Monday in the Blackburn Travelodge.
It's handy being on a 4 day weekend. Anyone up for some touring on the Monday and Tuesday?
I'll be on my fixed. I'm not sure it's worth gearing down. I'd need such a low gear to get up those hills I'd be spinning at 200rpm on the flat.
Or maybe I should use my mountain bike, with very low gears and hydraulic disk brakes...?
Thanks for the kind offer teethgrinder but Ridehard and I have accepted Bianchi Boy's equally kind offer - see you in the Travel Lodge
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on May 01, 2012, 05:45:20 pm
I'm in the travelodge too....  might see you lot there..  ;D

I shall also take another spare set of brake blocks, having had nice new ones before this last weekend, and not nice at all (not even there at all) ones now...  :o

If only Campag did a triple for the 11 speed... but they don't....   hey how do those climbs compare to the Devils Staircase (Abergwesyn) ??
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on May 01, 2012, 07:40:53 pm
also did the devil's staircase on the elenydd this year and rode up it but i would not be able to get up the hardknott without a few stops or some walking unless i was absolutely fresh on a good day.  The wrynose is much easier coming from that side - about the same as the staircase, but as stated before, the legs will be shot by then - i don't think i can complete this ride, so am intending to enter as soon as i get round to it!

and done
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on May 01, 2012, 10:28:35 pm
I'm expecting it to be like the middle bit of the Elenith for 600k, with a few even tougher climbs thrown in for extra value.
It'll be excellent training and a good taster for the Maniac, assuming I'm still alive afterwards. ;D
Definitely a good ride to do on fixed. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Euan Uzami on May 01, 2012, 10:51:51 pm
I'm in the travelodge too....  might see you lot there..  ;D

I shall also take another spare set of brake blocks, having had nice new ones before this last weekend, and not nice at all (not even there at all) ones now...  :o

If only Campag did a triple for the 11 speed... but they don't....   hey how do those climbs compare to the Devils Staircase (Abergwesyn) ??
having done both (albeit hardknott only once) i'd say it's harder than the devil's staircase. It's steeper and longer.  I remember thinking "what a spectacular road" and, when half way up it, "if it doesn't get any steeper i'm going to make it", and then it did. I did clean it though.
I'd go so far as to say it's as much about technique as strength/stamina/power (maybe if it's in the latter stages of a 600 though you may be tempted to disagree). I'd only just started a coast to coast though. Of the guys who I was riding with two were faster than me but one wheelspun and lost momentum and tumbled. If it's dry you might be able to stand up on most of the ramps, but pick your milestones with care as it's not necessarily the hairpins like on the staircase - on hardknott the hairpins are among the steepest bits iirc.
The descent is just as steep (when i did the c2c one guy who had been quite happy walking up packed at the bottom 'cos of the descent) but when you've done it wrynose seems easy by comparison.
I'd definitely check brakes work ok (for rosedale if nothing else...)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Euan Uzami on May 01, 2012, 10:54:07 pm
also did the devil's staircase on the elenydd this year and rode up it but i would not be able to get up the hardknott without a few stops or some walking unless i was absolutely fresh on a good day.  The wrynose is much easier coming from that side - about the same as the staircase, but as stated before, the legs will be shot by then - i don't think i can complete this ride, so am intending to enter as soon as i get round to it!

and done
it's easier not to stop because the hardest thing is setting off again...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on May 01, 2012, 11:26:39 pm
OK, I will inform the lungs and they can argue it out with the legs  :sick:

on another note, am I correect that no extra time is allowed for the overdistance on this ride
Title: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on May 02, 2012, 06:44:40 am
I've ridden Hardknott before, but only with fresh legs and no luggage. I used a compact double - bottom gear of 34x27 and it was not too bad (I guess I was expecting worse). Even got a round of applause from some German tourists in a camper van at the top :).

Devils staircase on Yr Elenydd doesn't compare. Hardknott is steeper and much longer.

For this ride I'm gonna fit a MTB cassette and rear mech to give me a 34x32 or 34x34 bottom gear.  Gonna have ~500km in the legs by Hardknott and gonna need every help I can get!


Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on May 03, 2012, 12:34:59 am
I use a 34 / 29 which made the D's Staircase a bit of an anti climax, as I said on the Elenydd thread - though I should have kept that to myself, as I later belatedly realised how demoralising that might have sounded to the folks who had to walk it - I still say/type what I think, and have little ability to judge how others take things, so apologies if I upset anyone!!

I shall be looking forward to these challenging climbs.

My climbing technique includes slow seated climbing, for best traction, pulling on the up stroke as well as pushing on the down, plus regular out of saddle for a change of muscle, but again at an often ridiculously slow speed, and again watching heart rate. 

We are all different, but I find that for me, heart rate is the deciding factor - I can easily ride faster, but then sooner or later I go into the red and overheat, hence my developed technique of riding slower to keep a lower heart rate...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on May 10, 2012, 12:41:05 pm
It's a while now since my last communication so I thought I'd give a quick update on proceedings.

The route-sheet will be finished tomorrow and will be sent out over the next week, so all entrants should have their's in a week. Between Ripon and Helmsley there are two different routes; either the A19 via Thirsk and then over Sutton Bank or a quieter country lane route through Coxwold and over Wass Bank. Both are about the same distance so a route-sheet shall be issued for either version. Please feel free to follow either route.

Bad News: I've been unable to secure the facility at Melmerby for the sleep control.

Good News: I've found an alternative about 5-miles down the road (at about 390km) instead. I'm having a look tomorrow and all being well shall secure this for a food/sleep control.

I've also reserved the Sports Centre at Seascale (about 475km) for extra food/sleep if required.

Andy Corless
Organiser: Pendle 600

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on May 23, 2012, 08:54:14 pm
I have not had a route sheet yet. Just checked payment with paypal paid on January 1st - new years resolution  ;D

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mikek on May 23, 2012, 09:05:23 pm
I have not had a route sheet yet. Just checked payment with paypal paid on January 1st - new years resolution  ;D

I've not had mine yet either. I'm hoping this is just that Andy has yet to send them out. Has anyone got one yet ?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on May 23, 2012, 09:20:46 pm
emailed him yesterday and he replied that things were going out soon - by the weekend
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on May 24, 2012, 06:52:10 am
S'pose I'd better rev-up the heat sealer at work then
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Steve GT on May 24, 2012, 08:01:23 am
I'm in the travelodge too....  might see you lot there..  ;D

I shall also take another spare set of brake blocks, having had nice new ones before this last weekend, and not nice at all (not even there at all) ones now...  :o

If only Campag did a triple for the 11 speed... but they don't....   hey how do those climbs compare to the Devils Staircase (Abergwesyn) ??

Not at the moment but coming in 2013. (http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/05/bikes-and-tech/campagnolo-unveils-new-triple-cranksets-compact-gearing_219086)

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on May 25, 2012, 06:09:09 am
Ridehard and I would love to join you if the room is still available?

If not, then I've got a room booked for Sunday and Monday in the Blackburn Travelodge.
It's handy being on a 4 day weekend. Anyone up for some touring on the Monday and Tuesday?
I'll be on my fixed. I'm not sure it's worth gearing down. I'd need such a low gear to get up those hills I'd be spinning at 200rpm on the flat.
Or maybe I should use my mountain bike, with very low gears and hydraulic disk brakes...?

Ridehard has pulled out so (if it's OK with you Bianchi Boy) there's room for a small one
Thanks for the kind offer teethgrinder but Ridehard and I have accepted Bianchi Boy's equally kind offer - see you in the Travel Lodge


Ridehard has pulled out but I am still in - so if it's OK with you Bianchi Boy, there's room for one more
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on May 25, 2012, 10:27:51 am
Ridehard and I would love to join you if the room is still available?

If not, then I've got a room booked for Sunday and Monday in the Blackburn Travelodge.
It's handy being on a 4 day weekend. Anyone up for some touring on the Monday and Tuesday?
I'll be on my fixed. I'm not sure it's worth gearing down. I'd need such a low gear to get up those hills I'd be spinning at 200rpm on the flat.
Or maybe I should use my mountain bike, with very low gears and hydraulic disk brakes...?

Ridehard has pulled out so (if it's OK with you Bianchi Boy) there's room for a small one
Thanks for the kind offer teethgrinder but Ridehard and I have accepted Bianchi Boy's equally kind offer - see you in the Travel Lodge


Ridehard has pulled out but I am still in - so if it's OK with you Bianchi Boy, there's room for one more

Yes - as long as I get the bed  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on May 25, 2012, 11:21:53 am
emailed him yesterday and he replied that things were going out soon - by the weekend
Route-sheets have now been sent out!

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on May 26, 2012, 10:30:21 am
My route sheet is here!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on May 26, 2012, 10:38:45 am
mine's not  :(

Any chance of an emailed one?  Anyway, I shall be riding up eskdale then over the hardknott and wrynose tomorrow morning, then on to Kendal, so I will let peeps know if there are any problems with the road surface/dead sheep/digging up the sewers etc etc

--> and it is in good nick apart from one bend descending the hardknott, worst thing was lack of water in the heat - 30 degrees at one point according to the machine.  Managed to ride them (into the brisk wind) without stopping but no chance of that with nearly 500k in the legs.  Not sure where the routesheet sends you to get to kendal, but the cycle path between Windermere and Staveley is a LOT smoother than the main road, even though it is very narrow in places (watch out for folk pootling along listening to their iPods).
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on May 27, 2012, 04:20:37 pm
I have just been busying myself doing some route tracking for this ride. I am now quite scared.

The climbing values from Bikehike are as follows -

1- 1,073
2- 1,560
3- 856
4- 353
5- 1,152
6- 1,047
7- 1,140
8- 1,298
9- 896

Giving a total of 9,375. Now I am not an expert but I thought BikeHike underestimated the total climbing stats?
I hope the weather stays fine because I do not think I will be at the manned control before breakfast on Sunday. I do not anticipate an early finish.  ???

I am not complaining, just wondering how much I had had to drink when I signed up for this.

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on May 27, 2012, 05:06:50 pm
I think you need to leave melmerby at 383k by about 7:30am to be on track for 15kph.  I am expecting about an hour of rest if I am lucky, then to collapse somewhere around Little Langdale and not make the Carnthorth control!  Do we get 15 or 14.3?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 27, 2012, 07:46:35 pm
Neither. BRM 600s get a straight 40 hours, no extra time allowance for over-distance.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on May 27, 2012, 09:17:41 pm
The route sheet says -

22:00 for BRM
23:16 for BR

Looks like both are on offer  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 27, 2012, 09:25:45 pm
That was an option previously but the last AGM removed the option of offering a BR if outside BRM time. For what it's worth, I argued against the change but most disagreed with me. He would have to offer two events, BR and BRM with riders chosing before the start. He hasn't, so no option.

The ride is listed as a BRM in the calendar, so 40 hrs only.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on May 27, 2012, 09:33:47 pm
That was an option previously but the last AGM removed the option of offering a BR if outside BRM time. For what it's worth, I argued against the change but most disagreed with me. He would have to offer two events, BR and BRM with riders chosing before the start. He hasn't, so no option.

The ride is listed as a BRM in the calendar, so 40 hrs only.

 :o

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on May 27, 2012, 11:21:34 pm
Can rides be offered at BR at the last minute... or once they are in the calendar is that it...

so we're stuck with 40hrs and the other BRM rules such as wearing our 'sashes, Sam Browne's or vests' and not having the missus bring out the drinks and cake as we pass because it is 'personal support' other than at a control.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 28, 2012, 05:59:01 am
No difference between BR and BRM regarding reflective vests and support between controls.

You'd have to talk to one of the powers that be regarding introducing a BR option. Strictly speaking, new events/ changes have to be published in Arrivee before the start. There isn't enough time for that now.
Title: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on May 28, 2012, 09:04:21 am
I guess one blessing is that the Robin Hood's Bay control is at the top of the steep hill down to the shore.   (I still might nip down to dip my toes in the water tho:))

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on May 28, 2012, 10:30:40 am
If there was 10,000 metres of climbing the ride might qualify as one of the 'Super Randonees', which would give it a time allowance of 50 hours.  http://sites.google.com/site/ledauphinegratine/home/home/super-randonnees
It will be interesting to see the figures that come back from the event. It might be that completion of the event at 40 hours will carry a lot of prestige in future years.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CramCycle on May 28, 2012, 11:42:10 am
Anyone have an e-mailable version of the routesheet? between Royal Mail and An Post, I have little faith in recieving the route sheet in time over here.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: GrahamG on May 28, 2012, 11:49:36 am
This route looks totally badass for want of a better expression ;D 
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: aidan.f on May 28, 2012, 12:27:27 pm
Quote
Anyone have an e-mailable version of the routesheet? between Royal Mail and An Post, I have little faith in recieving the route sheet in time over here.

I would  like a copy too, may come out and cheer you  along  :)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on May 28, 2012, 01:09:47 pm
It might be amusing to create some profiles for this event along the lines of these.

http://sites.google.com/site/ledauphinegratine/profils-profiles
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mikek on May 28, 2012, 10:25:27 pm
Got my route sheet today, but....

I noticed that the A(2) on the entry page has changed to A and that the route sheet info. does not mention being able to sleep at the Hall the night before. I'm hoping this is just an oversight because I and at least one other are relying on sleeping there on the Friday night. Someone please tell me that I've misunderstood.

Mike.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on May 28, 2012, 11:22:27 pm
looks like you're in the car park with myself - also got my sheet today and noticed that it goes down the Lyth valley, not to Kendal - lovely road for cycling once the initial (gradual) climb out of Bowness is over, it might ease some of the pain at that point.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on May 29, 2012, 08:26:38 am
I thought the A(2) referred to the original 2 sleep controls at Melmerby and Seascale.  Now it's just a sleep control at Seascale.   Gonna be a push to get to Seascale before it gets light on Sunday morning I reckon. Whinlatter pass at dawn??

Really looking forward to this - it's gonna be epic.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on May 29, 2012, 07:14:36 pm
A refers to accommodation before and/or after the event.
Z refers to sleeping facilities during the event.

The Z is still there and the A is just an A, not A2, so only one night of accommodation. The question is, is that night before or after the event or is it an error?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on May 29, 2012, 08:46:21 pm
I am wondering where I am going to sleep!

I think I am on about 20h pace for 400 and then 480 at the 'sleep stop' will be day light and feeding time.

I can feel a bus shelter comming.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: john jackson on May 29, 2012, 10:04:35 pm
I can feel a bus shelter comming.
Not many Bus shelters on the moors around Hartside Pass
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on May 30, 2012, 12:50:39 pm
I've never done a ride long enough to need a sleep, so I am looking at this from a fresh perspective.  Let's say I aim to get round in just under 40 hours with 3 hours sleeping time.  If I take my 3 hour sleep half way round, then I will certainly 'time out' at the next control, because by half way I will only have generated 3/2 = 1hr 30mins spare time.

On these longer routes, is there no latitude in the timing of the intermediate controls?

As stated upthread, it seems silly to ride 75% of the route without a sleep and then have a kip in the daytime at Seascale.  Leaving Seascale at about 1pm would be OK for finishing in time I think.  I would rather stop when it is pitch black and ride in the light.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Karla on May 30, 2012, 01:01:00 pm
I've never done a ride long enough to need a sleep, so I am looking at this from a fresh perspective.  Let's say I aim to get round in just under 40 hours with 3 hours sleeping time.  If I take my 3 hour sleep half way round, then I will certainly 'time out' at the next control, because by half way I will only have generated 3/2 = 1hr 30mins spare time.

On these longer routes, is there no latitude in the timing of the intermediate controls?

As stated upthread, it seems silly to ride 75% of the route without a sleep and then have a kip in the daytime at Seascale.  Leaving Seascale at about 1pm would be OK for finishing in time I think.  I would rather stop when it is pitch black and ride in the light.

Thoughts?

It's best not to aim to finish in the full time.  On my first 600 I just rode and saw where I got to, and finished in 38.50 (limit was about 42h).  A sleep at 350 - 400km would be a better plan.  Also, you should hopefully go a bit faster at the start, as you should get some pace from the group.  You obviously don't want to burn yourself out but make sure you don't faff about or go slower than feels comfortable, just to stick to your 40h schedule.  If you feel good at the start, go well and build up a time buffer!  There are no prizes for finishing with minutes to spare.

Also, I don't think I've ever got 3h sleep on a 600.  90 minutes should allow you to continue :)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: vorsprung on May 30, 2012, 01:58:28 pm
It's a pity I have a life because I'm on rippin' form after the BCM and the K&SW

But another weekend away biking is not going to happen
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on May 30, 2012, 02:10:13 pm
It's a pity I have a life because I'm on rippin' form after the BCM and the K&SW

But another weekend away biking is not going to happen

Remember this? :-

"the path of excess leads to boredom" :)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: vorsprung on May 30, 2012, 02:12:54 pm
It's a pity I have a life because I'm on rippin' form after the BCM and the K&SW

But another weekend away biking is not going to happen

Remember this? :-

"the path of excess leads to boredom" :)

Yeah yeah I know :)  Less is more.  I hope you have the same excellent weather on the Pendle 600 that I had on both recent events
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on May 30, 2012, 02:22:44 pm
I was very impressed by your 600s on successive weekends.  I won't be doing this one this time; it's just too hard for my first 600 at 9AAA although it looks like a beautiful ride.  I've had a few weeks off the bike until last week's Tan Hill 200 in 27C plus wind, which gave me areally hard time and it's only 4.5AAA.  I'll do Chris's Three Coasts, hopefully.  But I'm going to be thinking about this weekend's  ride while I'm walking the North York Moors with my brothers!

Good luck all!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on May 30, 2012, 05:35:08 pm

Also, you should hopefully go a bit faster at the start, as you should get some pace from the group. 

Mr B... they always ride off too fast and I can't keep up!  :-[

Anyway, enough with the grousing, I am sure it will be an educational experience and I am not going to get all worked up about it if the clock runs out.  I will set my alarm for for t + 90mins as soon as I feel like I can get off to the land of nod.  Also the weather looks spot on, so that will help - less variety of clothing required.

Peter, I thought about the Tan Hill riders that day, I decided to do a 100k tour of the Lakes instead and when the thermometer hit 30° and I stopped to put my feet in a stream, I was really glad not to be with you lot!  You must have had terrible trouble keeping hydrated.  You are right of course, it is a stupid ride to try as a first 600, I have no defence, but am eyeing up the later (flatter) ones as more realistic propositions.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on May 30, 2012, 05:48:30 pm
Paul, 30C makes a bit more sense, I was only guessing!  Hydration was important and I got through 6 or 7 bottles and a couple of pints of milk., which may not sound a lot but I ususally do a 200 on a couple of bottles and a pint of milk.  It's still a great ride though.  I think you'll get round ok.  You're quite a bit younger than me and a strong rider and I think you have the right attitude: just ride it and if you "qualify", fine, if not, it's still a fantastic route.  That was how I approached the Old 240, and it worked for me.

Did you do your recce of Wrynose and Hardknott?  By the way, I expect you know this, but if the 600 takes you up Kirkstone Pass from Ambleside there is some really good Coniston beer in the Inn, though you are morely likely to be in need of a blood transfusion!

All the best

Peter
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Yossarian on May 30, 2012, 07:04:48 pm
Good luck to everyone riding this weekend - I appear to have entered ages ago, but as I work for the man and can't get Friday off work to make it financially possible to travel I'm going to be a DNS I'm afraid - this will have to go on the rides for next year list!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Karla on May 30, 2012, 09:04:24 pm
Good luck Revellinho, it will be a completely awesome achievement when you finish!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CramCycle on June 01, 2012, 09:58:22 pm
I also am DNSing. Caught late at work and missed the boat, literally.

Hope everyone else enjoys it, good luck.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 01, 2012, 10:13:50 pm
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... hexham pizza place phone number in mobile... and rest.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on June 02, 2012, 02:13:32 pm
Pendle 600 latest:

14-riders started from Pendleton at 06:00am this morning. They are:

Steven Abraham
Robert Bialek
Steven Bryce
Steven Ferry
Mark Gray
Simon Grove
Ian Hellawell
John Jackson
Peter Johnson
Justin Jones
Mike Kelly
Paul Revell
Ian Ryall
Peter Turner

I'll be catching up with them at Seascale tomorrow.

Andy Corless
Organiser: Pendle 600
Title: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on June 02, 2012, 09:24:23 pm
I hope all goes well - shame I had to DNS - what news from the field??
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on June 02, 2012, 10:17:12 pm
I've just been speaking to Andy. All 14 starters were still going at Robin Hood's Bay earlier this afternoon, None of the riders are expected in Seascale until at least 6am though.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on June 03, 2012, 01:00:34 pm
at 12pm 13 of the 14 riders had passed Seascale (~480km)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on June 03, 2012, 08:29:10 pm
Finished!  Pendle 600 conquered!

Finished in a group of 3. We were 2nd back in. 37hrs10mins - with no sleep.

In the pub now enjoying a recovery drink (or 2) :)

Excellent ride, but hard as nails.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 04, 2012, 08:53:27 am
Got in with about an hour to spare having ridden 649k, due to poor navigation... 'stanhope' and 'staindrop' look awfully similar on a dark night when you're wet, cold, tired and your glasses are covered in mizzle.  That was tough - slept for 8 hrs solid in the back of the car outside the pub after a couple of pints.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 04, 2012, 09:49:53 am
Paul, that's an amazing achievement - I can't remember when I last had 8 hours sleep!

If you can ever be bothered, I'd love to hear about the ride, some time.

Well done!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: john jackson on June 04, 2012, 10:20:42 am
Thanks Andy of such a great route. :thumbsup:
 I think we must have climbed every 1:3 and 1:4 in North Yorkshire.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mattc on June 04, 2012, 10:35:34 am
Finished in a group of 3. We were 2nd back in. 37hrs10mins - with no sleep.
Now very glad I didn't attempt this!

Well done all. Sounds epic.
Title: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on June 04, 2012, 01:54:02 pm
I've just uploaded my GPX file from the ride into bikehike.  It reports 10150m climbing!

Anyone else got any data?

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: fungus on June 04, 2012, 02:36:51 pm
Does that make the Pendle the hilliest 600 on the calendar  ???
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on June 04, 2012, 03:38:15 pm
This was my first ever DNF due to well basically failing. I was quite pleased with how I had ridden up to Seascale. No sleep during the night and had dozzies after the descent from Hartside. Slept for about 20 minutes, rode well to Penrith and then had more dozzies near Keswick when a short snooze at the side of the road was required. Rode well to Seascale and was very pleased with my climbing. When I left Seascale I was up for the Lake District passes then I nearly fell asleep on my bike about 5km from Seascale. Waited around for a short while and felt like I really wanted to go to sleep. Realised there and then the game was up. Rode back to Seascale and discussed options about getting to the start with Andy. Local trains do not run on Sundays and the nearest station was at Windermere so I had to scale the passes. Did this very slowly and walked all the steep sections. Got a train about 5pm to Preston and then cycled the 20 miles to Pendleton and arrived at about the same time as the brave souls who finished.

I managed all the climbs that were below 30%, but none 30% or 33%. If I try this again I will have a triple. My lowest gear of 34/27 was just not low enough.

I really enjoyed the route but this is not a fast ride. Even at my best I think it would have been my slowest ever 600, and when you factor in the fact that I did not have fours hours sleep all that climbing really did slow me down. I think that some of the 33% descents would be very hairy if the roads had been wet.

Unfinished business - hope this runs again.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on June 04, 2012, 03:45:55 pm
That's a shame, but well done on getting that far round. Even more incredible you still conquered Hardknott and Wrynose after packing - chapeau.

(It is possible to get trains from Whitehaven-Carlisle or further South Barrow-Lancaster on a Sunday but unfortunately there hasn't been a Sunday service in the middle (Whitehaven-Barrow) since Beeching).

I left the Seascale base at about 10am, but if I'd still been there I'd have offered you a lift.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Yossarian on June 04, 2012, 04:01:15 pm
This looks like a real teeth grinder of a weekend, I'm envious I wasn't able to start now! 650km on no sleep is impressive, well done to all those competing.

The closest I've got to Audaxing this weekend is about 600 pints on no sleep, and I'm having to use recepits to work out where I have been... I might sleep in a bus stop outside the pub tonight to give it the authentic Audax feel.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on June 04, 2012, 04:07:26 pm
(It is possible to get trains from Whitehaven-Carlisle or further South Barrow-Lancaster on a Sunday

If I had thought of that I would not need my cleats replacing.  :'(
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: IanR on June 04, 2012, 04:28:55 pm
As a relatively slow rider, I was inevitably going to find this ride a bit of a struggle. I have the dubious distinction of being the first to pack, at Hexham (338km).

The ride over to Robin Hood's Bay was very tough, but I was pleased to see three other riders just leaving as I arrived. After a restorative full-English breakfast, I left the control with an hour in hand. I made up a bit of time between Stokesley and Barnard Castle, but I found the section between BC and Hexham very tough. The combination of hills, tiredness and poor visibility due to mist and drizzle meant that I made very slow progress. I stopped just before Hexham for a short sleep, and arrived there just out of time, but strangely relieved that the ordeal was now over!

Many thanks to Andy for organising this ride. It took me to some very picturesque places that I had never previously visited, and it allowed me to test and find my limits!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Millepete on June 04, 2012, 07:30:37 pm
What an epic!
Thanks to Andy for putting it on and I hope that he repeats it so that all the disappointed DNS/DNF riders can have another crack at it.
It was my first 600 and also the first time I had to keep an eye on the clock to make sure I would finish inside the time limit (even without any sleep stop) as I seriously under-estimated how slowly I would be riding due to all those hills.
However if PeteJ is right and it has over 10000m of climbing then a more relaxed Super Grimpeur time limit would make it a more realistic option for steadier riders.
Particular thanks to Simon G for keeping me company for most of the ride and apologies to Revellinho for not stopping for a chat as we passed him on the run in to Clitheroe but by then I was focused on finishing and the pint (or 2) that I was going to enjoy at the pub shortly afterwards.
TBH I didn't realise he was also on the ride as I hadn't seen him at any of the controls and assumed he was just out enjoying the stunning scenery in the Trough of Bowland.

Who managed to ride Hardknott & Wrynose after 500km? (I didn't)   
Particular respect to Bianchi Boy for riding/walking Hardknott & Wrynose after he had packed (or had he?).
If you are still on the route and within the time limit aren't you still officially on the ride even if you have packed mentally?

Next up Mille Alba ; should be a doddle by comparison

p.s I hope I don't regret saying that

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on June 04, 2012, 08:05:52 pm
Particular respect to Bianchi Boy for riding/walking Hardknott & Wrynose after he had packed (or had he?).

More walking than cycling.

Well I had ran out of energy and I had no intention of finishing. I just had to get back to Pendleton because that was where my car was. Exhaustion played strange tricks on my mind. When discussing the options for getting back with Andy I had confirmed that there were no local trains and I did not even think that it might be easier to cycle to another station after it had been mentioned that trains were available from Windermere.

If this runs again I will try to make it. Unfinished business.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 04, 2012, 11:48:16 pm
Quick ride report on the reports thread, as there were so few of us on the ride, but obviously quite a few others eyeing it up.  Felt good about finishing as, subject to validation, that is my first 600 and first SR, also done solely with AAA rides for good measure.  Next target is to get a better bike!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 05, 2012, 10:32:08 am
Thanks very much Andy for organising an extremeley tough and challenging ride

I enjoyed this ride immensley and will be back next year - If it's running again?

High Points:  a) The dramatic Hexham to Penrith stage - especially the long winding decent to the control - I felt like 'Lord Audax of Hartside' as I forged through the dramatic lanscape entirely on my own and with not sole on the road
b) scaling Hardknot Pass

Low points: a) feeling like I'd ridden the hardest AAA170K of my life at Robin Hood's Bay and then suddenly realising I only annother 450K to go
b) narrowly missing a right royal pasting from two of the biggest and scariest jordies I have ever seen; somewhere between Barnard Castle and Hexham

Special thanks to Bianchi Boy & also to John - see you at the registartion for Mile Alba!

J
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mattc on June 05, 2012, 03:49:55 pm
I've just uploaded my GPX file from the ride into bikehike.  It reports 10150m climbing!
Could you post the data publicly so that us Wannabes can drool over it?
(e.g. load to bikely, or just post the GPX where we can link to it)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: john jackson on June 05, 2012, 04:16:42 pm
b) narrowly missing a right royal pasting from two of the biggest and scariest Geordie I have ever seen; somewhere between Barnard Castle and Hexham
Glad I was in a group. Riding up a 20% climb with 2 bare chested drunk Geordies running down hill directly towards you is scary.

The Geordie in the Hexham pizza takeaway were very friendly insisting were went  to the front of  the queue.
The headwind up Hard Knott was really strong. Just as I stopped 3/4 of the way up, as it was too hard, a car stopped opposite, the driver asked if I was going to ride the rest. At that moment his passenger got out of the car and was almost blown off his feet. I replied "I may have to walk due to the wind". Both  wished me good luck and congratulated  me on riding up. He did not know I had walked the steep bit lower down.
Hope I recover for the Mille Alba.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 05, 2012, 04:21:25 pm
Chaps, I can take no more: Geordie is the word you're looking for!  That said, I'm impressed that you can already write anything after a ride like that.  Well done all!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 05, 2012, 05:25:28 pm
We were out on the fell on Sunday, having parked the car at the top of Wrynose, It was gusting up to 50mph, at least it didn't rain. There was a Triathlon going on, 1 mile swim in Coniston, 45 mile ride around Wrynose, Hardknott, Ulpha Fell etc. and a 9 mile run around the Coniston Horseshoe, I told one of the marshals about the Pendle 600.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 05, 2012, 05:41:10 pm
Yes, but who won? And how did Teethgrinder manage on fixed?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on June 05, 2012, 09:35:31 pm
I've just uploaded my GPX file from the ride into bikehike.  It reports 10150m climbing!
Could you post the data publicly so that us Wannabes can drool over it?
(e.g. load to bikely, or just post the GPX where we can link to it)

I'm struggling to upload the gpx to bikely (might be too big?).  So while I try and sort it out the gpx file is here:
https://docs.google.com/open?id=0Bzf_MqHl-vizOFFNZlpwWUowZU0

enjoy ;)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 06, 2012, 12:03:06 am
Pete, thanks!

Bikehike will open it.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 06, 2012, 12:20:03 pm
Chapeau to all those who completed the ride - sounds gnarly.

Commiserations to those who didn't complete.

It sounds like a legendary ride in the making. 
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on June 06, 2012, 12:30:16 pm
Thanks to all the riders who entered and congratulations to the following 11 who finished:

Steven Abraham
Robert Bialek
Steven Bryce
Mark Gray
Simon Grove
Ian Hellawell
John Jackson
Peter Johnson
Justin Jones
Paul Revell
Peter Turner

Commisserations to the few who didn't make it. It's better to try and fail than to not try at all!

A couple of accolades from me: Steven Abraham and Justin Jones completed the event on fixed, Paul Revell (first SR) and Peter Turner both completed this as their first 600, and finally to YACF poster "mcshroom" for helping at Seascale.
 
The date for next year's event has been provisionally set for the weekend of: 22-23 June 2013, possibly riding in a clockwise direction, with minor changes to the route.

Andy Corless
Organiser, Pendle 600



Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 06, 2012, 01:36:26 pm
Yes, well done all.  Andy, I take it that the clockwise possibility is to make people climb Rosedale Chimney?  That's just spite!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 06, 2012, 02:10:32 pm
I think I am right in saying that Simon Grove (who lurks here occasionally I believe!) has ridden the BCM, K&SW and the Pendle 600 on consecutive weekends - an impressive achievement indeed!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on June 06, 2012, 02:24:00 pm
A couple of accolades from me: Steven Abraham and Justin Jones completed the event on fixed, Paul Revell (first SR) and Peter Turner both completed this as their first 600, and finally to YACF poster "mcshroom" for helping at Seascale.

My first 600 too :thumbsup: and also completes my first SR

I might have also just completed a AAA SR too if a AAA 200 Cal + non AAA ECE 100 counts for my 300 - dunno if that's allowed.

Would definitely be interested in this ride again next year. It's a fantastic route and an epic challenge.

And yep, Simon did the triple of the 3 AAA 600's on consecutive weekends.

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 06, 2012, 02:34:09 pm
I think I am right in saying that Simon Grove (who lurks here occasionally I believe!) has ridden the BCM, K&SW and the Pendle 600 on consecutive weekends - an impressive achievement indeed!

You would never have guessed by the way he boshed up all of those hills
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Reg.T on June 06, 2012, 03:01:33 pm
Indeed (AUK results confirm this) - well done Simon.

(And you really should join in here)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 06, 2012, 03:17:35 pm
Looks like he's also the first to go a bit hyper this year?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on June 06, 2012, 06:16:56 pm
I almost never travel up north for an event. It's a lot of hassle and costs a bit of money. Too far to cycle to the start in time for the start of the ride after finishing work on a Friday. But this was a 600. Not just any 600, but one that goes to a few places I' never visited before, plus being a challenging 600, rather than, just a 600. That, and being on a Bank Holiday weekend, I had to give it a go.
The parts I thought would be bad, especially the A66 after Penrith, weren't bad at all.
There wasn't a sleep control at night, but that wasn't much of an issue because I never expected to have much time in hand for sleep anyway. I did get about 30 mins in a church porch and another 10 in a bus shelter.
The route was very good. All scenic. I did do my own route to dodge Windermere and Lancaster though. Ambleside to Windermere was a big traffic jam and I was glad to get out of that, but it did mean some extra hills.
It was a bit hilly too. I've never walked that many hills on any event. I did more miles of walking than I do when I go out for a walk! I would have probably walked less if I put my back wheel in the right way around and used 52/20 instead of 52/17. I discovered this at the first control, but thought that I was going well enough and that it would be good training for Crackpot, 10A and Maniac this month and that I could still flip the wheel round if I wanted to, which I never did.

Definitely worth the trip up. I might have to do this one again, even if it means booking days off work.
I think I'd keep it anti clockwise. The start was a bit of a main road bash for a while and the last section was a very good finish to a 600. Especially the bit along the river.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on June 06, 2012, 07:31:18 pm
The date for next year's event has been provisionally set for the weekend of: 22-23 June 2013, possibly riding in a clockwise direction, with minor changes to the route.

I DNF'd and want to ride, and finish, this next year (other social activities allowing). I think there is some merit in running the route clockwise. Any sleep control provided could be Barnard Castle (365km) or Stokesley  (420km). The lake district would be tackled in the morning and could well have lower traffic volumes. Hexham Pizza stop would be slightly earlier in the route. Barnard Castle could be a problem control as there may be no 24 facilities available. The passes of the Lake District would be replaced by the steep climbs in the Moors.

I would be happy with either way round.

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: HyperSi on June 07, 2012, 08:22:56 am
OK, I have been drawn out of hiding!
I thought the Pendle 600 was a great ride though I couldn't pick a favourite out of the it, the BCM and K&SW. It was by far the hardest of the three (not helped by a 100 mile spin to Box Hill with by brother on the Thursday) as there was no chance for sleep given the arduous terrain and the regular food stops (good strategy Millepete).
Prior to this year all of my big rides have been done as solo perms, I have found the company on all of the calendar big rides this year to be most enjoyable and very helpful in minimising the low points you get at 3am.
I hope to ride the Pendle again next year but only if I can get some serious miles in the legs and start without sleep debt.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Reg.T on June 07, 2012, 08:46:35 am
Yay! Welcome aboard Simon.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on June 07, 2012, 07:51:03 pm
I hope to ride the Pendle again next year but only if I can get some serious miles in the legs and start without sleep debt.

So, a 600 each weekend for the 2 weeks before wasn't enough miles in the legs?
How many will you do next year?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: vorsprung on June 08, 2012, 12:05:41 pm
I hope to ride the Pendle again next year but only if I can get some serious miles in the legs and start without sleep debt.

So, a 600 each weekend for the 2 weeks before wasn't enough miles in the legs?
How many will you do next year?

er yes. 

Your younger, taller form on a newer, shinier bike rampaging up hills faster than I could manage on the BCM and the KSW was quite off putting  ;D  I did my best to put you off with my creaking carbon fibre but it didn't work

After the KSW600 even my legs felt ready for anything, so I have to agree with TG- more miles? No
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on June 08, 2012, 08:47:48 pm
I wasn't trying to discourage HyperSi from doing more miles. I was just asking how many more he thought was needed.
I don't think I'm the right one to go telling people not to do so many miles. Besides, doing miles must have worked.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: HyperSi on June 09, 2012, 03:31:13 pm
I had harboured ambitions for an altitude SR series for about three years but various reasons (lack of fitness, low summer motivation, cracked Yukon frame, stupidly high winds across Ribblesdalehead in October) had meant that I crashed and burned.
This season I saw the 3 big 600s and specifically trained to do them as I wanted to do rides which were my old favourites as well as seeing some new places (esp. Wales and the West Country), I have done some of Andy's perms so I knew the Pendle was going to be hard.
A comparatively mild winter up North meant that I could even get a 300 done in February and the heat wave in March allowed a very early "flat" SR series with the long rides done on my much loved 28 year old Dawes Renown with a full Camper Longflap. Carrying all this weight resulted in me shedding a stone so moving to Al and Ti bikes was like taking the brakes off.
A comfortable (though sub zero at night) Northern Pennines Grimpeur 400 in early May told me that I was ready to do the 600s in the style I wanted to do them (no walking!) which had been my target for the year.
Not sure how many more miles now but thinking that I should go for an altitude hyper series. I have cards for the Devil and Airbourne Grimpeurs and might think about the Maniac once the nights warm up a bit. There are also still 2 good altitude 600s in the calendar.
I am looking forward to reading the RR for the 10A, Maniac and Crackpot, good luck with them :thumbsup: in the words of Wayne and Garth "we are not worthy".
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on September 15, 2012, 02:36:39 pm
Congratulations once again to the 11-riders who completed the first Pendle 600.

This was an exceptionally hard ride with over 10000m of climbing and some long stretches between controls.

After leaving Pendleton, the event started off with the traditional main-road bash along the A59, before the first climbs over Pateley Bridge on the way to the first control at Ripon. A pleasant ride through the lanes to the south of Thirsk followed before the first of the really tough sections over the North Yorkshire Moors, rewarding the riders with some fabulous views on the descent to Robin Hood's Bay.

The night section around the Northern Pennines followed before the flattest part of the route along the A66, eventually climbing over Ennerdale Moor to the rest/sleep control in the coastal town of Seascale.

Finally, after the pleasant ride through southern Lakeland, the riders had the dreadful passes of HardKn*tt & Wryn*se to tackle in quick succession, before the last leg through Bowland back to the finish :D, which of course included the famous "Trough" :-[.

The date for next years event has been set for the weekend of: 22-23 June 2013, with some slight variations to the route. In other words, cutting out some of the "boring" flat bits.

The event now appears in the Audax calendar and entries are now open.

Hope to see some of you again next year.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600
Title: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on September 17, 2012, 02:15:52 pm
One of my highlights of this year,  Very tempted to do this ride again next year.

Destined to become a classic methinks

Can't say I remember any flat bits, nevermind boring flat bits :)

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on March 22, 2013, 10:42:46 pm
Hmm - harbouring thoughts of forgetting York Langholm York and doing this instead.

Negotiations with MrsMekon begin tomorrow!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on March 23, 2013, 12:53:23 pm
Woot! Pass obtained, entry in.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on March 23, 2013, 07:41:57 pm
I'm tempted. Might see how I'm going on the longer rides first, though.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on March 23, 2013, 07:56:55 pm
Rrryymm rrymm
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2013)
Post by: bikey-mikey on March 26, 2013, 10:19:01 pm
I'm in - don't know about sleeping midway strategies, but can someone from last year clue me in??
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on March 26, 2013, 10:21:59 pm
Last year there was a hall in Seascale (about 400km in). It was a sports hall with gym mats on the floor.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2013)
Post by: DrMekon on March 26, 2013, 10:25:05 pm
I'm in - don't know about sleeping midway strategies, but can someone from last year clue me in??

Looks like you don't get time to sleep is my reading!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on March 26, 2013, 10:26:01 pm
Last year there was a hall in Seascale (about 400km in). It was a sports hall with gym mats on the floor.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2013)
Post by: bikey-mikey on March 26, 2013, 10:27:05 pm
I'm in - don't know about sleeping midway strategies, but can someone from last year clue me in??

Looks like you don't get time to sleep is my reading!

Anyone got a garmin file?  I'd like to check the timings - a couple of hours works wonders after all.....
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on March 26, 2013, 10:27:37 pm
I was chatting to Steve about it, he said he only had time for about a half hour kip - and Steve is not slow!

Shame it's not going t'other way around, we'd pass me mam's at about 400 km.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on March 26, 2013, 10:27:58 pm
No sleep - I was going to get half an hour on a bench in the park at Hexham, but a) I took a scenic variation and did not have time b) it was a bit chilly and damp and c) the town was packed full of rowdy revellers - might have coincided with Appleby Fair I think.  I think a few people got a short nap at the control in Seascale, I seem to remember gym mats being available in the hall there, but that is not going to be at night if the route is the same as last year.  I crashed out in my sleepy bag (in car), after a pint or two in the Swan With Two Necks at the end.  Did not need rocking I seem to remember. edit - I took 39hrs.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on March 26, 2013, 10:30:39 pm
From what I remember most riders turned up in Seascale between about 9 am and 12pm on Sunday.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on March 26, 2013, 10:36:58 pm
I slept in a chrch porch between Hexham and Penrith, just before climbing Hartside, for about half an hour. Also in a bus shelter about 5 miles before Penrith for about 10 minutes. I reached Seascale at around midday ish. I know I had about an hour in hand when I left the control, which was my plan so that I had time to walk up Hardknott and Wrynose.
Yo might snatch a few hours sleep if you're quick, but I wouldn't count on a full night of sleep.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: john jackson on March 26, 2013, 10:56:48 pm
Re Sleep stop. Post by organiser last year on page 3 of this post:-
Bad News: I've been unable to secure the facility at Melmerby for the sleep control.
Good News: I've found an alternative about 5-miles down the road (at about 390km) instead. I'm having a look tomorrow and all being well shall secure this for a food/sleep control.

Unfortunately this did not happen, the main problem I believe, was halls booked for the Jubilee weekend. The route details on the calendar page mention Langwathby. This may be a sleep stop.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on March 27, 2013, 07:37:36 am
I should have asked Andy after the Delightful Dales - that was only ten days ago..... but I was tired and cold like everyone else!!!! Still I enjoyed throwing a couple of snowballs at nothing in particular  :)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on March 27, 2013, 07:48:36 am
There's a new control at Langwathby for this year, is this a sleep stop?

I didn't sleep last year, just had a couple of rest stops - an hour or so sat on the floor of the petrol station in Penrith & and another hour or so of monging at Seascale.

Hoping to do this again, was one of my cycling highlights of last year, just need to earn some more brownie points and I'll be entering.....

Mike, I'll post a link to my gpx file when I'm next at my computer (I've moved the file since posting the link upthread)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on March 27, 2013, 08:00:11 am
Trying it from my phone,

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bzf_MqHl-vizX3pOeW5RazlyVW8/edit?usp=sharing

Does that work?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on March 27, 2013, 09:23:29 am
Does that work?

Great - thanks.

(http://thumbsnap.com/s/r8Ou6Il7.jpg)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on March 27, 2013, 09:50:06 am
Does that work?

Great - thanks.

(http://thumbsnap.com/s/r8Ou6Il7.jpg)

Apparently there's less boring flat bits this year!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2013)
Post by: Peter on March 27, 2013, 10:33:26 am
I'm in - don't know about sleeping midway strategies, but can someone from last year clue me in??

Looks like you don't get time to sleep is my reading!

Judging by your efforts on Delightful Dales, I should think you'll have plenty of time for a doze somewhere!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on March 27, 2013, 11:53:02 am
I'm planning on starting this event with as little sleep debt as possible, and a sackful of ProPlus.  Carrying some impromtu sleeping kit (foil blanket, that kind of thing) as it is likely to be snatched naps, even if there is a designated sleep stop (I thought the "facilities" show a Z, which means sleep stops on route, but this may be wishful thinking or erroneous).

Not going to be easy, with the motto "time is miles" more relevant to a successful brevet than on many rides, is my anticipation (but should be fun, as it goes over some lovely terrain, if other rides that overlap with the route are anything to go by).
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on March 27, 2013, 10:57:08 pm
Trying it from my phone,

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bzf_MqHl-vizX3pOeW5RazlyVW8/edit?usp=sharing

Does that work?

Yessireee - perfick   ;D

Thankee  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: eeymsmo on March 28, 2013, 08:50:30 am
The plan is to do this as the last big training event before LEL.

Must remember to source a smaller inner ring before then.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on March 28, 2013, 08:59:20 am
I suspect using the Pendle to train for LEL is akin to using climbing the Eiger to train for climbing Ben Nevis.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: eeymsmo on March 28, 2013, 09:11:42 am
Found that riding Mille Alba last year gave me a big boost of average speed for the next 2 months (might have carried through for longer but an off put paid to that experiment), hoping this will do the same I can get the flatlands out of the way quickly.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on March 28, 2013, 09:29:06 am
Must remember to source a smaller inner ring before then.
gearing is a personal thing,  but to give you an idea, I used a 1:1 bottom gear by fitting a MTB cassette and rear mech to my compact drivetrain. I'd got a 47/34 with a 11/34 cassette.
Just managed to ride up Hardknott on that with 500km in my legs :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on March 28, 2013, 09:44:57 am
I suspect using the Pendle to train for LEL is akin to using climbing the Eiger to train for climbing Ben Nevis.

Love that.

Nothing like a scary ride to focus the mind. I've found myself skipping dessert and taking the hilly route to work since I put my entry in. I'm fearing any slacking between now and then will be punished severely.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: eeymsmo on March 28, 2013, 10:07:29 am
Must remember to source a smaller inner ring before then.
gearing is a personal thing,  but to give you an idea, I used a 1:1 bottom gear by fitting a MTB cassette and rear mech to my compact drivetrain. I'd got a 47/34 with a 11/34 cassette.
Just managed to ride up Hardknott on that with 500km in my legs :thumbsup:

that's the current thining, current lowest is 36x27 which causes me to stop to admire the countryside occasionally but hasn't needed the 24" backup yet.....

And like the good DrM, I'm also looking on this as a focus to shift some pounds. I think I'll only want to carry 1 spare tyre round this one.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on March 28, 2013, 10:18:51 am
I didn't get any time for sleep either, apart from a handfull of micro-knaps by the road side - JJ and I sailed in at a very respectable 39 1/2 hours - I remember busting my balls on the first 170K and then breathing out of my arse for the other 430K - I would rate this ride as 'very hard' but would have it down in the top 3, or even 2 for scenic drama.  I'm definately in and will hopefully be able to camp at the finnish this year.  This will allow time for more well deserved ale in the Swan with Two Necks.  It serves this 6.5% brew which spangled me.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on March 28, 2013, 10:26:31 am
I'm running 34/28 on my Madone, and it sailed up Park Rash and the Coal Road on the Delightful Dales without any dramas. I'm hoping that it'll suffice despite Andy's warning that Pendle is more that triple that effort. I have to say, his grin when he pointed out it's worse than 3 Delightful Dales does worry me.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on March 28, 2013, 05:32:52 pm
It's not the hardknott you need to worry about so much. Stage 2 in the North York Moors is the toughest IMO, with a quick succession of 1:3 and 1:4 hills and no flat bits inbetween.
I needed some food and rest when I got to Robin Hoods Bay control, but the next section was quite easy. Then it's back to business up to Hexham and another easy section over Hartside to Penrith.
I reckon if you can clear Penrith control you'll most likely finish. After Penrith it's still not easy, though my GPS route planning didn't go well, so I ended up doing some rough stuff and probably did a bit of extra climbing.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on March 29, 2013, 11:40:06 am
Just to point out that 'easy bit' is one of the C2C routes that people take days over :D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on March 29, 2013, 12:06:34 pm
Yes, it's all relative. An easy bit on Pendle would be the hard bit of most 600s.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mattc on March 29, 2013, 05:51:11 pm
In October I rode the Keswick-Ambleside bit (taking in Whinlatter/Wrynose/Hardknott passes) as part of a very tough 100km loop! And to think I was too wimpy to make it 200km that day ...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2013)
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on April 23, 2013, 03:19:55 pm
Have entered. 

Have seen that Campag do a 12-30 Centaur rear cassette so will probably order that as it will give me a 27" bottom end whilst still being able to do Mach 2 with wheels on fire on the tri-bars for the rare straight descent.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on April 23, 2013, 03:33:26 pm
I'm running 34/28 on my Madone, and it sailed up Park Rash and the Coal Road on the Delightful Dales without any dramas. I'm hoping that it'll suffice despite Andy's warning that Pendle is more that triple that effort. I have to say, his grin when he pointed out it's worse than 3 Delightful Dales does worry me.

Madone? What do you do for luggage?

*ponders*
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on April 23, 2013, 03:56:31 pm
Deuter frame bag at the front for ephemera, tools in a 750ml bidon on the seat tube, 2.7l ortlieb saddlebag for clothes. Reasoning is

1. I hate top tube bags, as my knees hit them
2. Storing tool kit in the saddlebag makes the bike feel horrid out of the saddle, and we'll be out of the saddle a lot
3. Small saddlebag makes me think about what I'm carrying, which I never did when using my Nelson Longstrap.

I suspect my frame size 60cm is the sweetspot for the framebag, in that the straps just fit, and it's not in the way of the downtube bottle cage.

BTW, I checked, and I've got 34/30 to fall back on. Suspect I'll use it a lot.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on April 23, 2013, 03:59:01 pm
Well, I've been umming and aahing about some sort of target for June and have finally pressed the button.  I just hope that I can distinguish between the sign for Stanhope and the sign for Staindrop this year when it's dark and raining  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on April 23, 2013, 04:10:07 pm
My Madone has 30/27 available. I've never got up Hardknott on that bike. However, that predates switching to mainly riding fixed.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on April 23, 2013, 04:15:05 pm
I would be worried about significant weight in a saddle bag on a seat mast, so clothes only in the saddle bag makes a lot of sense.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on April 24, 2013, 09:10:46 am
I've used a saddle pack on my Roberts race bike for long events (LEL, Mille Miglia, PBP) without any problems.  It does take some effort to cinch it up tight enough so it doesn't sway.  I do supplemented it with a bum bag.  It is a good encouragement to travel light.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on April 29, 2013, 01:54:58 pm
12 - 30 casette has arrived (so have a 30-30 option for the 1 in 3 bits), Burnley Travelodge booked, weekend leave organised from Mrs CET, looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on April 29, 2013, 03:27:42 pm
Erm, that's "interesting" CET.  It's like being told that you've been informed by the opposing general that you are all to line up outside in the morning, and so have bought a bullet proof vest.  That is, if you are going for a 1:1 ratio then (based on what I've seen of your riding ability) I am going to get royally f**ked over on some of these climbs!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Millepete on April 29, 2013, 05:20:46 pm
Not sure if anyone is still looking to book accommodation for this event but, if so, it may be worth pointing out that although Burnley is the closest Travelodge to the start, there is a slight hill (Nick O'Pendle) between them so if you're planning to ride to & from the start you may be better staying at Blackburn instead ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on April 29, 2013, 09:35:04 pm
Not sure if anyone is still looking to book accommodation for this event but, if so, it may be worth pointing out that although Burnley is the closest Travelodge to the start, there is a slight hill (Nick O'Pendle) between them so if you're planning to ride to & from the start you may be better staying at Blackburn instead ;D

That's why I've got the 1:1 ratio  :smug: 

On a practical note, whether I might be able to get round with my standard ratios (30-25), the ultra-low gear should help me to climb just that little bit easier, so that the legs are not too dead for the easier bits. 
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on April 29, 2013, 10:11:03 pm
On a practical note, whether I might be able to get round with my standard ratios (30-25), the ultra-low gear should help me to climb just that little bit easier, so that the legs are not too dead for the easier bits.

Two of us got around Pendle without all those fancy gears last year.
I think you'll manage. ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on April 30, 2013, 12:49:15 pm
Without counting chickens - perhaps I will have enough in the legs for a victory 'lap' over the Nick o' Pendle on the way back to Burnley Travelodge - after an obligatory refreshment in the Swan with Two Necks (I presume that means each neck needs a beer).  ;D and  ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: vorsprung on April 30, 2013, 02:50:29 pm
I'm not entering this until I see how the K&SW 600 goes.  So far this year my form has been less than stellar
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on April 30, 2013, 02:59:17 pm
I'm not entering this until I see how the K&SW 600 goes.  So far this year my form has been less than stellar

I am really considering this now.

I will probably ponder it after Porkers and BCM.

I've been quite pleased with everything so far this year - though I haven't done too many hilly rides so far this year (Hard Boiled and Dorset Coast are about it).

I am really tempted.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on April 30, 2013, 03:04:24 pm
It's not much more hilly than the Mille Cymru. And arriving at 600k on the time limit and out of energy is fine.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on April 30, 2013, 03:43:09 pm
Better to try and fail, than not try at all....

(of course, not as good as try and succeeding, but such is life).
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: vorsprung on April 30, 2013, 04:06:34 pm
It's not much more hilly than the Mille Cymru. And arriving at 600k on the time limit and out of energy is fine.

Ah, but I was fitter then.  Definite lack of miles this year
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on April 30, 2013, 05:10:06 pm
Not sure if anyone is still looking to book accommodation for this event but, if so, it may be worth pointing out that although Burnley is the closest Travelodge to the start, there is a slight hill (Nick O'Pendle) between them so if you're planning to ride to & from the start you may be better staying at Blackburn instead ;D

You can go from the Travelodge to Padiham and then follow the A671 to meet the A59, turn right for Skipton then it's shortly a right turn to Pendleton.  Only a mile or two further than Nick of Pendle and as flat as anything else up here.  Sufficient unto the ride itself are the hills thereof!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on April 30, 2013, 09:33:46 pm
Pete

I'm really impressed with your detailed knowledge of the area.   8)   

If you get a moment, we would really like it if you could please lay out similar detours around the actual climbs on the route !!   :thumbsup:   :smug:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on May 01, 2013, 09:07:10 am
I believe one of or number from last year (not me) rode back home to Halifax after the event.  The gauntlet has been well and truly thrown down in that respect.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on May 01, 2013, 09:17:20 am
Given the price of trains from Darlo, if I was to ride, I'd almost certainly have to cycle to Pendleton and back :-\
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on May 02, 2013, 12:47:53 pm
Hmm, suppose I better figure out where to stay before and after the event given I'll be travelling up/down from Surrey.  Problem is, I am not sure where the start is.  Is it in Pendleton (or is that just a marker for AUK website purposes)?

Currently thinking of camping, as it will be summer, and it appears there are a couple of places west of Clitheroe that would do the job.  Any recommendations or otherwise (either for campsites or cycle friendly B&Bs) would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on May 02, 2013, 02:25:59 pm
Yep, it starts in Pendleton
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: HyperSi on May 02, 2013, 09:37:31 pm
I stayed at the Angram Green Cottage campsite in Worston and it was fine, apart from getting back to a wet, collapsed tent and soden sleeping bag. Camping needs to be pre-booked. Popular with families with noisy kids but after 600km + 10000m climbing sleep will not be a problem.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on May 03, 2013, 08:08:36 am
OK, the little light pencil mark in the diary has become a big fat Sharpie mark.

I know it will be hardcore, but I will have 3 600s in my legs by then, plus a multitude of 3/400s. If I don't do it this season, I may never be in this shape again. Seems a fitting ride to go hyper on. 
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on May 03, 2013, 09:10:18 am
Awesome - this is going to be epic fun.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on May 03, 2013, 09:11:46 am
Shhhh - less of the f word.....

Not supposed to enjoy it you know?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on May 07, 2013, 01:09:26 pm
Oh, believe me, I will be muttering many an f-word on this event.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on May 07, 2013, 01:23:19 pm
Shhhh - less of the f word.....

Not supposed to enjoy it you know?

Dr Mekon is at least half right.....
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on May 09, 2013, 07:11:47 pm
I've booked into the Clitheroe campsite run by the Camping&Caravanning Club.  For those thinking of staying in the area, they currently have a special offer of 20% off grass pitches in June if booked in May (reducing price from £42 to £35 for 3 nights, Fri-Mon).
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on May 27, 2013, 09:41:34 pm
Transport (train) and accommodation (travelodge) sorted for this ride.

Just need a route sheet and I am good to go! Really looking forward to it, I think.

There is mention of a sleep stop, I am guessing there won't be a lot of time to sleep based on the reports and comments from last year, but it's good to know that there is somewhere to at least try and get half an hour or whatever.

I will have a small rucksack with me, does anyone know if the org can look after it for the duration? (I am not expecting it to be carried to the sleep stop or anything, just need it looking after for the weekend).

This ride does give me the fear, but I am really rather excited.

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on May 27, 2013, 09:52:48 pm
You can always leave it in my car in Pendleton.  I'll be the one on the red bike as per my picture thingy on here (and a red car for that matter).
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on May 27, 2013, 10:00:55 pm
I recced Hardknott and Wrynose for the first time last week on an otherwise enchanting perm (L'al Lakeland - recommended  :thumbsup: ).  On the sweary scale, these are fucking cunty bastards.  In both the upsy and downsy directions.  Nasty bagginses  :sick:

Hardest things I've ever walked up and down with a bike...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: swiss hat on May 29, 2013, 01:24:27 pm
The force was too strong and I could resist no longer. Granny ring and new brake blocks at the ready  :o
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on May 29, 2013, 01:42:08 pm
Walking up, yes. But down? It's only a series of 1:3 hairpins that will test your bike handling skills to the limit. What's not to like about that? :)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on May 29, 2013, 02:00:08 pm
That is the major reason why I have never even attempted going up them on two wheels.

Oh and you missed out the steep drops off the side of the road at that point :)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on May 29, 2013, 02:04:24 pm
The last time I rode down there, it was wet. Fun. At least the earlier hail had melted by the time I got there.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on May 29, 2013, 02:07:21 pm
You can always leave it in my car in Pendleton.  I'll be the one on the red bike as per my picture thingy on here (and a red car for that matter).

Awesome - may take you up on that.  Sure it'll all work out in the end.

I know the routesheet just needs to say "go up every big hill in the North of England" - but any news on routesheet?  I got an Email to say it would be out around 1st May - but it's all quiet so far!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on May 29, 2013, 03:46:10 pm
Walking up, yes. But down? It's only a series of 1:3 hairpins that will test your bike handling skills to the limit. What's not to like about that? :)

Gale force wind and snow (in May!) scunnered that idea.  As did the cars using the full width of the road (with the squeel of tyre and reek of smoking rubber).  Wrynose was managable but hardknott, erm, not.

I didn't even walk down on the tarmac as cleats were sliding.  Had to walk down on the grassy verge...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on May 29, 2013, 04:00:43 pm
Winter hat ordered as they're back in stock. Summer will now begin.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on May 29, 2013, 04:51:09 pm
Walking up, yes. But down? It's only a series of 1:3 hairpins that will test your bike handling skills to the limit. What's not to like about that? :)

Gale force wind and snow (in May!) scunnered that idea.  As did the cars using the full width of the road (with the squeel of tyre and reek of smoking rubber).  Wrynose was managable but hardknott, erm, not.

I didn't even walk down on the tarmac as cleats were sliding.  Had to walk down on the grassy verge...

Hence the desire to have a 27" gear on this ride  :smug:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on May 29, 2013, 05:30:28 pm
I know the routesheet just needs to say "go up every big hill in the North of England" - but any news on routesheet?  I got an Email to say it would be out around 1st May - but it's all quiet so far!

Emailed org who says next week for the routesheet  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: veloboy on May 29, 2013, 07:49:35 pm
The force was too strong and I could resist no longer. Granny ring and new brake blocks at the ready  :o

I too have been lured in by the force!! Anyway, haven't been up the Hard Knott and Wrynose since the Fred Whitton, three or four years ago...
Time to give the legs and lungs a good 'ol bashing!!
Dinner-plate sprocket and new brakes blocks also at the ready  :o
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on May 30, 2013, 12:27:33 pm
I'm hoping the new bike with DISK brakes will get me down the steep descents without that 'I'm getting faster and I can't seem to slow' feeling.  Start down slow as hell, and stay at that speed!!  ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on May 30, 2013, 01:55:57 pm
I practiced on Bignor Hill on Monday.  25% decents and rubbish tarmac.  The brakes work but it will be fun if it is wet  :hand:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Yossarian on June 04, 2013, 07:52:36 am
Do we know how many entries there are for this at the moment? Myself, Jonah and Gadge are coming up from Hackney for this, and trying to persuade a few others to join us.

It looks like a difficult ride!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 04, 2013, 08:44:55 am
Entries so far: 25 according to AUK site as at 30 May

Hope it does not rain!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 04, 2013, 09:16:04 am
I practiced on Bignor Hill on Monday.  25% decents and rubbish tarmac.  The brakes work but it will be fun if it is wet  :hand:

If the event is forecast to be wet, then I will consider DNS'ing as this would not (imho) be a safe route.  But I hope it doesn't come to that, and that the current high pressure stays over the UK (words like "drought" and "hosepipe ban" in the news would be alright by me!)

Looking forward to it though.  I suspect it will be the highlight of the year.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Reg.T on June 10, 2013, 03:19:15 pm
If anyone has GPX files for this year's ride (either 1 per stage or an overall one), I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one to appreciate it if they would share it, to save us all duplicating the same task..... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 10, 2013, 04:23:54 pm
Started on files - don't blame me if they're not 100% though!  (I'll keep on adding the links as I do them)

It's all pretty simple - see steep hill, climb steep hill.

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559668 - Pendleton to Ripon

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559678 - Ripon to Robin Hood's Bay

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559707 - Robin Hood's Bay to Stokesley

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559718 - Stokesley to Barnard Castle - MIGHT BE WRONG SEE BELOW POST FROM DEANO!

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559724 - Barnard Castle to Hexham

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559729 - Hexham - Langwathby (sleep stop)

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559732 - Langwathby - Seascale

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559738 - Seascale - Carnforth

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559743 - Carnforth - Pendleton

I am also making a sheet with elevation profiles - they proved useful during the Wessex Series - so each stage will have a bit of this:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8544/9006846887_e9411d55e5.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3721/9006987981_9e15f7c171.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7444/9006988199_90668b3f01.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3815/9007136359_7800ea3611.jpg)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7452/9008425708_9c3769fda3.jpg)

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2856/9008776508_da1a7561c7.jpg)

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5339/9008776478_75d8d2e699.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3679/9008776402_eb50064297.jpg)

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3752/9007594691_164aabefe9.jpg)

Slightly intimidating. (though always check the scale on the left - sometimes, you can worry about a stage and then find it's scale is 'only' up to 200m - still not a guarantee it will be easy though!)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 10, 2013, 04:39:27 pm
Started on files - don't blame me if they're not 100% though!

It's all pretty simple - see steep hill, climb steep hill.

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559668

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559678

I am also making a sheet with elevation profiles - they proved useful during the Wessex Series - so each stage will have a bit of this:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8544/9006846887_e9411d55e5.jpg)

Slightly intimidating.

Nah. That stage clearly has more down than up!

That between 50 and 60k looks fun in particular.

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 10, 2013, 04:43:52 pm
That's Greenhow Hill, isn't it? It's actually quite a tricky descent.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 10, 2013, 05:37:44 pm
If Greenhow is the one that is close to Pateley Bridge then there is a bridge at the bottom of a descent where the surface is very shabby.  It was on the Dales Grimpeur and the org made specific mention to be mindful of it.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 10, 2013, 05:41:30 pm
It's the descent into Pateley Bridge itself. Quite twisty, then straightens out as you approach the village, where you have to be cautious of drivers appearing from the side roads and pulling out.

Edit: I suspect you went up Greenhow Hill on the Dales Grimpeur.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hummers on June 10, 2013, 05:57:18 pm
Postie and I were talking about this one at the weekend and I think it will be in my sights next year.

Sadly, too much other stuff this year though.

H
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 10, 2013, 05:59:52 pm

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559718

Marcus, is that the official route?

Cos the A67 is currently closed for a section between Darlington and Barnard Castle. The official detour is pretty well-marked and easy to follow, and only a mile or two longer than bashing along the A-road, but it does suffer a bit from having A-road traffic going at A-road speeds on windy country lanes.

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 10, 2013, 06:04:53 pm

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559718

Marcus, is that the official route?

Cos the A67 is currently closed for a section between Darlington and Barnard Castle. The official detour is pretty well-marked and easy to follow, and only a mile or two longer than bashing along the A-road, but it does suffer a bit from having A-road traffic going at A-road speeds on windy country lanes.

As far as I can make out it is.  I have A67->A66->B6280->A67

Worth feeding back to the org.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 10, 2013, 06:05:48 pm
Just to say they're all done - but now I am concerned if Deano has found an issue with that section 4 one.  How many more errors have I made?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on June 10, 2013, 06:08:50 pm
Postie and I were talking about this one at the weekend and I think it will be in my sights next year.

Sadly, too much other stuff this year though.

H

There's a rich harvest of 600s on the calendar this year.
Pendle is well worth putting in your diary for next year.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 10, 2013, 06:10:18 pm
Postie and I were talking about this one at the weekend and I think it will be in my sights next year.

Sadly, too much other stuff this year though.

H

There's a rich harvest of 600s on the calendar this year.
Pendle is well worth putting in your diary for next year.

I am afraid to say it will not be running next year though http://aukweb.net/events/detail/13-312/#more - the org has another event in the pipeline I am led to believe.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 10, 2013, 06:15:18 pm
It's the descent into Pateley Bridge itself. Quite twisty, then straightens out as you approach the village, where you have to be cautious of drivers appearing from the side roads and pulling out.

Edit: I suspect you went up Greenhow Hill on the Dales Grimpeur.

We did - the bridge was on the descent from the other side.  Not checked the route yet, but if it comes in from Grassington then we'll be encountering the potholed bridge from the other direction.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 10, 2013, 06:17:09 pm

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=559718

Marcus, is that the official route?

Cos the A67 is currently closed for a section between Darlington and Barnard Castle. The official detour is pretty well-marked and easy to follow, and only a mile or two longer than bashing along the A-road, but it does suffer a bit from having A-road traffic going at A-road speeds on windy country lanes.

As far as I can make out it is.  I have A67->A66->B6280->A67

Worth feeding back to the org.

I reckon you have it right. 

Does anyone have a contact for the organiser, so I can let him know? It's easy enough to divert around (for the record, this (http://goo.gl/maps/fQ8Sz) shows the diversion), but the road is festooned with signs saying it's closed and that you only have access to Merrybent and High Connie, which some riders might worry about, and the road is closed even to pedestrian access, so you can't just sneak through.

If I'm around on the Saturday night, I might sit outside The Durham Ox and shout abuse cheer you all by.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 10, 2013, 07:14:25 pm
Is there a rule against tying helium balloons to your bike?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on June 10, 2013, 10:55:59 pm
Is there a rule against tying helium balloons to your bike?

....to make it sound funny when it talks?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 11, 2013, 01:30:18 am
On your bike, Mike - then you probably are, aren't you?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hummers on June 11, 2013, 05:46:27 am
Postie and I were talking about this one at the weekend and I think it will be in my sights next year.

Sadly, too much other stuff this year though.

H

There's a rich harvest of 600s on the calendar this year.
Pendle is well worth putting in your diary for next year.

I am afraid to say it will not be running next year though http://aukweb.net/events/detail/13-312/#more - the org h as another event in the pipeline I am led to believe.

Oh noes  :-[

H
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 11, 2013, 08:27:09 am
Looked at routesheet.  Good to see a hall mentioned at 400km - something to push for, even if it results in only a cat nap that pushes at the control closing times.

I see it's a BRM but stands at 619km.  I have no particular interest in BRM and although it should be achievable I would prefer to ease time pressures on what will be a difficult ride such that the 19km does not up the minimum speed to 15.5kph but instead gives the opportunity for extra rest. 

What is the definitive position on such rides being recognised at BR time limits if the event is published as BRM? Is this just not possible now that it has been published as BRM, is it down to the organiser/AUK to exercise discretion post-event, or do I have to notify the organiser that I want to do it as a BR rather than a BRM and it is up to him whether to allow this?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on June 11, 2013, 08:43:44 am
On your bike, Mike - then you probably are, aren't you?

I'm sleepy...

Last weekend Brimstone 600
Previous K&SW 600
Prev Llanfair PG 400
Prev BCM 600
Prev 7 Across 400 + 2xDIY 200 pre/post
Prev Brevet Cymru ECE'd to 600

Prior to that maybe three 300s

Plus midweek of course.....

:)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 11, 2013, 09:50:44 am
Looked at routesheet.  Good to see a hall mentioned at 400km - something to push for, even if it results in only a cat nap that pushes at the control closing times.

I see it's a BRM but stands at 619km.  I have no particular interest in BRM and although it should be achievable I would prefer to ease time pressures on what will be a difficult ride such that the 19km does not up the minimum speed to 15.5kph but instead gives the opportunity for extra rest. 

What is the definitive position on such rides being recognised at BR time limits if the event is published as BRM? Is this just not possible now that it has been published as BRM, is it down to the organiser/AUK to exercise discretion post-event, or do I have to notify the organiser that I want to do it as a BR rather than a BRM and it is up to him whether to allow this?

As I understood it, the ability to offer discretion post-event was not done any more - however, it was done so on the Hard-Boiled.

I feel the post-event discretion is not really in keeping with the whole audax ethos of saying "I am going to do X km in Y hours"

The only issue with you asking for it to be BR pre-ride is that the end control would, technically, have to be open for an hour and a bit longer.  Which is not really going to be high on the list of things the org wants I am sure!  You might be able to agree to control elsewhere for Arrivee though?

And you need to wear a big sign on your back saying you are riding to a different schedule to other riders!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on June 11, 2013, 10:13:55 am
The dual validation option has been removed by AGM vote, though I believe this was the wrong decision. Most of the old hands I've talked to about it weren't pushing for removal of the option.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Greenbank on June 11, 2013, 11:51:45 am
The only issue with you asking for it to be BR pre-ride is that the end control would, technically, have to be open for an hour and a bit longer.  Which is not really going to be high on the list of things the org wants I am sure!  You might be able to agree to control elsewhere for Arrivee though?

It can be almost 2 hours, possibly longer.

619km at BRM = 40 hours
600km at BR means a 14.3kph speed limit can be used = 41h57m

If the shortest distance between controls is more than 600km you get even more time than 41h57m if you use 14.3kph.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mattc on June 11, 2013, 12:10:18 pm
Sorry, I can't give you maximum marks there.

You neglected to mention the maximum permitted over-distance for a BRM.

Have it on my desk by 3pm and I might overlook your negligence...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 11, 2013, 01:16:02 pm
I love it when you talk dirty!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 12, 2013, 09:57:15 am
I found a nice resource for blogging about the ride, a pdf of information about the passes and high roads and a collection of postcards, linked to from here.
http://www.hodology.com/styled-6/index.html

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 12, 2013, 10:13:26 am
Yes, I found that some time ago and bookmarked it.  It's good to dip into and there are some good reminders of what road conditions used to be like!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 12, 2013, 05:30:10 pm
Lost laptop  :( and so no access to the email route sheet - can someone send me a link via the forum - thanks!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Reg.T on June 12, 2013, 06:57:47 pm
PM sent, CET.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mikek on June 13, 2013, 01:39:57 pm
Just to say they're all done - but now I am concerned if Deano has found an issue with that section 4 one.  How many more errors have I made?

I have reviewed these and can only find one error with respect to the route sheet. It's the section on Stage 3 from near Lealholm to Castleton. I've made a track that I think is correct at:

http://bikeroutetoaster.com/Course.aspx?course=561451 - Robin Hood's Bay to Stokesley
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: JordanCarroll on June 13, 2013, 01:48:51 pm
Looking forward to this!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 13, 2013, 01:54:11 pm
Yours looks more correct mikek!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 17, 2013, 08:09:53 am
FIVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZxnbBWtGR4
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 17, 2013, 02:29:12 pm
I've just had a quick look through Marcus' tracks. It looks like a classic.  :thumbsup:

And I've now made a financial commitment beyond entering, having booked camping.  :o
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 17, 2013, 02:48:17 pm
I will update stage 3 tonight.

Going to be amazing this.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 17, 2013, 04:47:31 pm
I was slightly upset to plot my route from my hotel, in Burnley, to the start.

12km - lovely little warm up before the main event.

290m of ascent though!  :facepalm:

I will be the one at the start looking pretty knackered already!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 17, 2013, 04:52:54 pm
I was slightly upset to plot my route from my hotel, in Burnley, to the start.

12km - lovely little warm up before the main event.

290m of ascent though!  :facepalm:

I will be the one at the start looking pretty knackered already!

Try going through Simonstone rather than Sabden.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 17, 2013, 04:59:56 pm
Whereas I will stumble out of a tent then very lazily I will drive to the start.

I looked at the terrain map from burnley and rejected that option out of hand.

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 17, 2013, 05:05:40 pm
I will have a look at longer/flatter routes.  Can't really get too scared over 300m of ascent, I believe there will be a little more than that on the ride.

Looking forward to this lots now. It will be my first Hyper Randonneur as well!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 17, 2013, 05:28:48 pm
I will have a look at longer/flatter routes.  Can't really get too scared over 300m of ascent, I believe there will be a little more than that on the ride.

Looking forward to this lots now. It will be my first Hyper Randonneur as well!

I suppose it's a good opportunity to do one of the top 100 climbs, and one that Chris Boardman still holds the record for in a National Hill Climb.

http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/3662/timetrials/hill-climbs/nick-o-pendle-hill-climb/
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 17, 2013, 05:45:04 pm
Nick Of Pendle is not a particularly difficult climb if the weather is ok , especially if you are fresh.  I was surprised to find it got up it on the 42 ring yesterday while doing the Season Of Mists permanent (a ride almost too delightful to describe).  If the weather is against then ESL's suggestion , which entails going through Padiham, then Simonstone and Read is an easy option.  That's what I'd do anyway, faced with a 600 of this calibre.

Whatever you decide - good luck!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 17, 2013, 06:08:37 pm
There's also the opportunity to pick up some breakfast and a coffee at the Co-Op food outlet on the A59, which is on the left behind Mac Donalds, and opens at 5am.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 18, 2013, 12:46:17 am
Further, marcus, if you are daft enough to start with Nick of Pendle, please be careful on the way down - it's a double arrow descent in one place with a tricky cattle grid on a bend, not the best wakener for sleepy heads!  Also, watch out for the turn to Pendleton on the left; if you reach the dual carriageway, you've missed it.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 18, 2013, 10:18:50 am
FOUR (or as the German's pronounce it, fear).

Currently keeping an eye on the weather forecast.  The eye is slightly moist  :'(

Must get out my chant beads to ward off the malign weather demons fronts.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 19, 2013, 06:50:23 am
I was slightly upset to plot my route from my hotel, in Burnley, to the start.

12km - lovely little warm up before the main event.

290m of ascent though!  :facepalm:

I will be the one at the start looking pretty knackered already!

Try going through Simonstone rather than Sabden.

That's the way I will be going.  4.30am breakfast at Travelodge 4.50am depart 5.30 am breakfast at start.  Trying to set new PB for no of breakfasts this weekend - only managed 5 on the Brimstone.   :smug:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 19, 2013, 09:41:18 am
3.

Currently in a quandry about the weather forecast.  I am about as ready physically for this ride as I will ever be, realistically, but the outlook of light rain mixed with heavy downpours in one of the most exposed areas of the country is currently gnawing away at my resolve.  I am also a bit concerned about the reduced stopping distance this implies on the descents, many of which require concentration in mild conditions (based on past experience).

This stuff is meant to be fun, and at the moment it is looking like the wrong kind of fun.  Bloody wet British weather.  Just screw you Jet Stream  >:(
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 19, 2013, 09:51:32 am
Still a few days to go.

I've never considered popping spare brake blocks into the saddle bag on a UK ride before.  I might on this one.  Some of the descending looks challenging. Especially if it does get wet.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on June 19, 2013, 10:23:32 am
I'd be concerned about decending the east side of Hardknott in the wet. It's not unknown for Fred Whitton rides to slide down there sideways when it's really wet. Then again I'm scared of that decent in the dry.

The weather forecast is not looking brilliant is it. I'm considering doing a solo 350/400km ride through to Newcastle and back onFriday night and I would have preferred better. The wind looks like it could be quite favourable for a large portion of your ride though, especially swinging round to the NW on the Sunday.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 19, 2013, 10:28:34 am
Still a few days to go.

I've never considered popping spare brake blocks into the saddle bag on a UK ride before.  I might on this one.  Some of the descending looks challenging. Especially if it does get wet.

This is one of my front brake pads after a 300 km perm from Darlo to the Lakes and back, so in pretty much the same terrain:

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4071/4452368504_3025fc5734.jpg)

I replaced the rear brake pads during the ride, too. Mind you, that was in March, and it rained for the first 120 km. Hopefully you lot will have better conditions!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 19, 2013, 10:31:29 am
I have popped a new pair in the saddlebag.  I only weigh 60kg so, generally, get good life out of brake pads.  But this ride looks especially hard on them.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 19, 2013, 11:17:52 am
60kg?  Cheat!  You can carry some of my stuff to make up the difference  ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on June 19, 2013, 03:23:02 pm
You could get a bike with discs of course....... :)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Greenbank on June 19, 2013, 03:25:20 pm
You could get a bike with discs of course....... :)

Do disc pads never run out?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 19, 2013, 03:34:02 pm
You could get a bike with discs of course....... :)

Ah, but then one has the risk of the back wheel locking and skidding out sideways just as a Land Rover approaches uphill.  DAMHIKT.  (That particular incident was almost a wet fart moment)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Euan Uzami on June 19, 2013, 04:56:37 pm
You could get a bike with discs of course....... :)

Do disc pads never run out?

not from one ride! my last pair lasted 18,000km. Sintered probably last even longer.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Phil W on June 19, 2013, 06:20:34 pm
You could get a bike with discs of course....... :)

Do disc pads never run out?

not from one ride! my last pair lasted 18,000km. Sintered probably last even longer.

You can wear out disc pads in a day off road in the wet. Did this in the Peak, grit and water make an effective grinding paste.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 19, 2013, 06:30:50 pm
had a look at the weather forecast - on the metoffice they have a weather station on Melmerby fell at 708m so just a little above Hartside.  Forecast was for 9C feels like 3C and rain on Saturday so will be packing winter gear.  There is no shame in walking down a descent.  May well pack spare brake pads.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 19, 2013, 06:50:40 pm
Fuck it.  I'm doing this.  I'll simply look back with regret at being a pussy when I read the ride reports of those bold enough to give it a crack.

GeronimohmydeargodwhathaveIletmyselfinfor.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: tubbycyclist on June 19, 2013, 07:12:22 pm

GeronimohmydeargodwhathaveIletmyselfinfor.


I have entered this but stayed out of the thread until this struck a chord. 
My provisional plans are - not sleeping; eat on the bike and keep moving; wear shoes that are comfortable for walking; take lots of layers; hope not to ride down the A6 from Penrith having run out of time. Gulp.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 19, 2013, 07:26:53 pm
My take on the weather forecast atm is that it is not nice, but not so bad as to DNS.  I've been down the Wrynose and Hardknott in the wet before and it is not as bad as people might think.  You might choose to get off and walk on the worst bits, especially if there are cars about, but what's 10 mins difference make over a ride that might take 40 hours?  Shame though, after all this good stuff we've been having.  Rode over the Whinlatter and back today - just beautiful.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Yossarian on June 19, 2013, 07:29:46 pm
I'm entered too, and also a little concerned about the weather. However, not starting is not an option, I'd much rather start then DNF than not bother, though I would expect to have suffered significantly before DNF'ing, ie, I want to see blood.

Also, I really want the Pendle on my palmares.

Seriously though, the issues with wet weather for me are all at night, when temperatures drop and a lack of anywhere to abandon too, such as a train station, or warm place, disappear. So I will make my choices towards the evening. It is supposed to be fun after all.

See you all on the start line!

Joel
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 19, 2013, 08:09:24 pm
I’ve descended Hardknott in the wet before. I’d be more concerned about attempting to ride up in the wet and losing it due to wheel spin.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on June 19, 2013, 09:19:59 pm
Spare brake pads are probably worth carrying just in case. I upgraded my brakes for this ride (well for the 3 1000k rides really, but also for this one) and also bought some extra grippy tyres.
I descended Hardknott and Wrynose on fixed in the wet on my Manaic attempt. It's OK as long as you keep your speed down as soon as you start descending and keep everything under control.

I can tell who hasn't ridden this ride on this thread. It's the North York Moors section you should be concerned about.
If you feel knackered at Robin Hoods Bay and with not much time in hand. Don't worry, the next section is probably the easiest of the ride, then it's back to business.


Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Euan Uzami on June 19, 2013, 09:56:50 pm
You could get a bike with discs of course....... :)

Do disc pads never run out?

not from one ride! my last pair lasted 18,000km. Sintered probably last even longer.

You can wear out disc pads in a day off road in the wet. Did this in the Peak, grit and water make an effective grinding paste.

Oh I know I have as well but that's not on the road is it...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Euan Uzami on June 19, 2013, 10:04:40 pm
I’ve descended Hardknott in the wet before. I’d be more concerned about attempting to ride up in the wet and losing it due to wheel spin.
when I did the coast to coast with some other blokes a few years back one of them did just that, he just toppled and wasn't hurt but couldn't set off again. Another guy packed purely because his nerves were shot from the descent (he was young though).
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 19, 2013, 10:06:52 pm
I can tell who hasn't ridden this ride on this thread. It's the North York Moors section you should be concerned about.
If you feel knackered at Robin Hoods Bay and with not much time in hand. Don't worry, the next section is probably the easiest of the ride, then it's back to business.

Aye, people I've spoken to who rode it last year said the same thing.

I wouldn't say it was that easy until you get to Kildale and Stokesley, mind.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on June 19, 2013, 10:14:57 pm
Right, I'll be picking up some new brake blocks on Friday. Packing winter gloves as cold wet hands are no fun. Expecting no sleep and suffering.

It will be great, and what isn't will make for great stories.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on June 19, 2013, 10:25:53 pm
I wouldn't say it was that easy until you get to Kildale and Stokesley, mind.

They are only 1:6s to Kildale, unlike the succession of 1:3s and 4s you'll be climbing and descending to Robin Hood's Bay.  ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 19, 2013, 10:29:26 pm
I wouldn't say it was that easy until you get to Kildale and Stokesley, mind.

They are only 1:6s to Kildale, unlike the succession of 1:3s and 4s you'll be climbing and descending to Robin Hood's Bay.  ;D

Quite ;D

I was thinking of hills to point out that people should watch out for between Kirkbymoorside and Robin Hood's Bay, but it's a succession of bastards all the way past Littlebeck.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: veloboy on June 19, 2013, 11:51:56 pm
All good preparation for the Crackpot 1k [expecting the threat comes to fruition next year]!  :o
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 20, 2013, 12:17:54 am
I’m just doing my GPX, using MarcusJB’s tracks as a base (I’m adding turn by turn waypoints as usual).

I’ve found what looks like a mistake after Dalton, which adds about 1km.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 20, 2013, 07:04:50 am
CET is a non-starter.  There is a spare room at Burnley Travelodge if anyone wants PM for details.

Have had two hellish weeks at work and am barely able to keep my eyes open.  Much as would like to take this ride on there are times when preserving life limb and sanity are more important.

Hope all have a good ride.

Best wishes
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 20, 2013, 08:24:32 am
I’m just doing my GPX, using MarcusJB’s tracks as a base (I’m adding turn by turn waypoints as usual).

I’ve found what looks like a mistake after Dalton, which adds about 1km.

Is that at Low Lane? http://goo.gl/maps/pq0rs

Google sees that as a turn to the left, so has routed mine via church lane, incorrectly.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Yossarian on June 20, 2013, 09:12:58 am
Does anyone know if there is a bag drop to the sleep stop? It'd be a massive advantage to have a bag with dry shoes and everything else waiting for me!

Joel
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Reg.T on June 20, 2013, 09:53:50 am
I emailed Andy to ask about this a couple of days ago, but no response yet.

Yr.No currently forecasting an inch of rain for Sunday (7am-7pm) in Penrith  :o
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 20, 2013, 10:00:56 am
TWO.

I haven't been this apprehensive about a ride for a fair while.  But at least I'm getting a full quota of sleep in the run up, and hope that is the case tomorrow when I'll be camping 5km from the start as the rain beats out a dull rhythm on the canvas.

I get the feeling this is going to be epic.  I'll probably try to take some photos this time, to enliven the second last of my long reports that I planned to do (the last being the E2E Hummers has planned, should it come to pass, although that one is likely to be made into an Arrivee article).

I've not heard of a bag drop being put on.  I'm not banking on one, but if Andy is prepared to ferry some stuff then I may take advantage of it.  Particularly for fresh shorts and socks (which will otherwise be stuffed in a drybag in my Barley).  Will be nice to change into dry stuff at the vilalge hall sleepstop.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Henry on June 20, 2013, 10:19:48 am
Sweet mercy on you all......I mean to say, best of luck everyone, enjoy  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 20, 2013, 11:43:50 am
I’m just doing my GPX, using MarcusJB’s tracks as a base (I’m adding turn by turn waypoints as usual).

I’ve found what looks like a mistake after Dalton, which adds about 1km.

Is that at Low Lane? http://goo.gl/maps/pq0rs

Google sees that as a turn to the left, so has routed mine via church lane, incorrectly.

Yep.

Shortly after the app I was using crashed and all the work I'd done up to there and beyond was lost. Fortunately replotting again only took 5-10 minutes. I'm currently up to Rosedale Bank.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 20, 2013, 11:58:28 am
Got you. As you can see google is just following what it thinks is the main road (even though it is a turn). Common google issue sadly!

I will correct mine later when I am home.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 20, 2013, 12:37:29 pm
TWO.

I haven't been this apprehensive about a ride for a fair while.  But at least I'm getting a full quota of sleep in the run up, and hope that is the case tomorrow when I'll be camping 5km from the start as the rain beats out a dull rhythm on the canvas.

My room in Burnley Travelodge will be available if you want - at least means you willl start dry!!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 20, 2013, 01:03:32 pm
TWO.

I haven't been this apprehensive about a ride for a fair while.  But at least I'm getting a full quota of sleep in the run up, and hope that is the case tomorrow when I'll be camping 5km from the start as the rain beats out a dull rhythm on the canvas.

I get the feeling this is going to be epic.  I'll probably try to take some photos this time, to enliven the second last of my long reports that I planned to do (the last being the E2E Hummers has planned, should it come to pass, although that one is likely to be made into an Arrivee article).

I've not heard of a bag drop being put on.  I'm not banking on one, but if Andy is prepared to ferry some stuff then I may take advantage of it.  Particularly for fresh shorts and socks (which will otherwise be stuffed in a drybag in my Barley).  Will be nice to change into dry stuff at the vilalge hall sleepstop.

I understand your apprehension totally. This is a different ride to anything from what I see.

But, you have officially been up more hills than anyone else this year, so you are in a better position than most of us to tame this beast.

See you on the startline.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: iddu on June 20, 2013, 01:15:56 pm
Fuck it.  I'm doing this.  I'll simply look back with regret at being a pussy when I read the ride reports of those bold enough to give it a crack.

GeronimohmydeargodwhathaveIletmyselfinfor.
Good - hate to see you waste that training :)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 20, 2013, 06:33:34 pm
Weather forecasts starting to take shape and it isn't maybe as awful as previous forecasts were suggesting.

The wind looks stern still though.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 20, 2013, 07:25:16 pm
so, 34 entered acc to AUK site last update - we should have a sweep, just for fun of course.  I reckon 25 will start and 21 will finish, but only 19 of those will be 'in time'.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 20, 2013, 07:34:48 pm
I’m just doing my GPX, using MarcusJB’s tracks as a base (I’m adding turn by turn waypoints as usual).

I’ve found what looks like a mistake after Dalton, which adds about 1km.

Is that at Low Lane? http://goo.gl/maps/pq0rs

Google sees that as a turn to the left, so has routed mine via church lane, incorrectly.

Yep.

Shortly after the app I was using crashed and all the work I'd done up to there and beyond was lost. Fortunately replotting again only took 5-10 minutes. I'm currently up to Rosedale Bank.

Any chance you can post a link to the routes/tracks when done?  I will navigate by route sheet, but always useful to have a gpx track ticking away in the background.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 20, 2013, 07:37:14 pm
Track back a page or two and they are all there.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 20, 2013, 10:27:50 pm
Routesheet has a missing instruction in Yarm, between 2.8rd exit and T @ TL following there should be a right turn at a roundabout
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 20, 2013, 10:51:44 pm
how far from the 3rd exit - or is this the first O you come to? 
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 20, 2013, 10:56:50 pm
There's only one in Yarm.

If someone with the routesheet copies the relevant instructions in, I can tell you what it should be.

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 20, 2013, 11:12:45 pm
stokesley to BCastle

L from Jet grge
1.7 R $ Seamer 1.5miles
8.2 L@T $ Yarm 2.5miles
2.8 3rd exit @O $ Darlo A67
<<suggested R@O>>
2.3 L@T/L $ Darlo A67
then lots of roundabouts
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 20, 2013, 11:22:41 pm
Those instructions look right to me - after the RAB on the A67 it's a long descent through the awful bottleneck of Yarm town centre, over the Tees and up to the traffic lights by the Durham Ox. Then, as you say loads of roundabouts through to Darlo. There aren't any missing roundabouts.

Simon, are you hitting an earlier RAB, to the east of Yarm?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 20, 2013, 11:35:05 pm
won't be a bottleneck for me - it'll be evening before I get there, anyway I'll assume the RS is correct.  No gps navigation here.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 20, 2013, 11:42:19 pm
You'll be reet. It's the A67 from Yarm all the way to Barnie.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on June 20, 2013, 11:53:12 pm
I'm a DNS - got some right knee issues after banging it against a door frame, and then a table and then a very solid sink, all within a week or so - all on exactly the same spot resulting in me feeling sick for at least an hour each time - it's cos I have become very clumsy -  and this is probably not the ideal ride to help recovery...

Good luck everyone - may the weather gods smile on you despite the forecasts !!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 21, 2013, 08:34:49 am
ONE

Fix bayonets.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa9EK-PfyF8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

(Ok so it's not quite the same as sacrificing youself in a futile war but the mood in the first minute strikes me  as a smidge like I am feeling)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 21, 2013, 10:03:50 am
Good luck to all of you!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 21, 2013, 10:34:50 am
My GPX here. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B50113rXOKHCX2p4VkRSaDduZVE/edit?usp=sharing

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 21, 2013, 10:53:19 am
Those instructions look right to me - after the RAB on the A67 it's a long descent through the awful bottleneck of Yarm town centre, over the Tees and up to the traffic lights by the Durham Ox. Then, as you say loads of roundabouts through to Darlo. There aren't any missing roundabouts.

Simon, are you hitting an earlier RAB, to the east of Yarm?

You're right - the instructions are correct. The OS map shows a roundabout but it is not a roundabout on google maps & street view so looks like that's out of date.

Simon
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: swiss hat on June 21, 2013, 10:54:05 am
Heading off soon. See you all at the start. Mrs SH will coming along as a potential helper and has been baking some cakes   :P

Message to Andy C -  Try and find room in your car to get a helper & cakes to the overnight stop!  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: veloboy on June 21, 2013, 11:02:34 am
All packed and ready to go! New set of brake blocks all round!! Dinner-plate cassette fitted!!! Train from Euston at 14:30...

I'm staying in Clitheroe and will be there from 18:00, if anyone fancies meeting up for some grub and a beer (the latter, solely to calm the nerves!!).  ::-)

Ortherwise, see y'all at the start line tomorrow morning!!  ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 21, 2013, 11:04:19 am
All packed and ready to go! New set of brake blocks all round!! Dinner-plate cassette fitted!!! Train from Euston at 14:30...

I'm staying in Clitheroe and will be there from 18:00, if anyone fancies meeting up for some grub and a beer (the latter, solely to calm the nerves!!).  ::-)

Ortherwise, see y'all at the start line tomorrow morning!!  ;D

Gadget (of AC Hackney) and myself are also on the 14:30 - see you there.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 21, 2013, 11:19:17 am
I was going to go for a few pints at the start and then doss in the car, but given the weather I'll be staying at home and setting off about 4:00am (keeps the bike dry).  Bring the waterproofs :( .
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 21, 2013, 12:55:56 pm
I'm going to be around testing a camera for LEL, the idea is to use the motorbike, but we'll see about that.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 21, 2013, 01:11:04 pm
Now for the long drive up north from Surrey (or whatever the place is called).  See you on the start line, bold adventurers!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: bikey-mikey on June 21, 2013, 01:41:49 pm
I'm halfway through a diy300 and I'll try another tomorrow so as to still get 6 points..... Despite the DNS .... Unless I do one Sunday as well....

:(
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: veloboy on June 21, 2013, 02:47:23 pm
Passing by The Euston Tap next to the station was too tempting to resist (40min hand to the train) - and came across 'Hardknott Azimuth' - seemed an appropriate sending off ale! ;-D
Met MarcusJB and Gadget at the station.
Now en-route on the train - amazing how packed this train is - not a free seat here - just about managed to get the bikes on with 4min to spare!! Well, Pendolino's are tiny inside!!! :-|
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on June 21, 2013, 03:58:32 pm
Anyone got a copy of stage 2 of marcus' gpxs? Bike Route Toaster is saying it's a private course.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on June 21, 2013, 04:03:33 pm
Thanks for all your best wishes for this weekend's event.

The village hall shall be open from about 5am onwards Saturday morning for free breakfast. I'll be at the HQ setting-up tonight from about 8 - 9pm if anyone wants to pop-in and say hello. I'll be in the "Swan With Two Necks" for a drink after then if anyone wants to come. At Langwathby, the control is the village hall at the far end of the village. The route-sheet instructions are a bit basic but the control is a big white building that looks like a church. The outside light will be on and the control sign will be up. Damon will be at the start with his camera.

The village hall at Pendleton has been booked before 4pm on Sunday so we won't have use of it before then. If you finish before 4pm I'll probably be in the local pub (as I was last year - until gone 11pm)!

Finally, I wish all the entrants well and hope you enjoy the ride.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on June 21, 2013, 04:14:06 pm
PS - PeeJay's ride from strava can be d/ld and chopped if anyone else needs tracks.

http://app.strava.com/activities/11429017
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 21, 2013, 04:32:44 pm
Anyone got a copy of stage 2 of marcus' gpxs? Bike Route Toaster is saying it's a private course.

Apologies. Try again.

I added a warning course point to note the error simonp spotted.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: veloboy on June 21, 2013, 05:35:14 pm
Excellent!
I shall be heading gown to The Swan with Two Necks for dinner after I check into my pub B&B in Clitheroe - food and ale rated highly there 😋
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: veloboy on June 21, 2013, 06:48:55 pm
Well,
The weather this evening in Clitheroe and Pendleton is something like straight out of a Merchant-Ivory film...
The calm before the storm, I suppose!!
I can vouch that The Swan with Two Necks is something really nice - local ales, and sunny terrace to sit on...
So, do cons and join if your in the locality!!! ;-D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 21, 2013, 07:57:58 pm
I am at Burnley Travelodge and have forgotten to print a copy of the route sheet. If anyone would like to print a copy and bring to the start that would be helpful just in case my gps dies.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: veloboy on June 21, 2013, 09:10:51 pm
The clouds came in and if got a bit chilly outside - so, headed back to Clithore, dropped the bike in the room, stuff ready for the morning...
Now visiting the many strip joints here, lots of burlesque......

.....not really, just sampling The New Inn  11 ales on tap 😋
So, beers seem almost half the cost of London here :-)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Phil W on June 21, 2013, 10:42:23 pm
Good luck all, looking forward to updates when you've finished.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Millepete on June 21, 2013, 11:07:40 pm
Best of luck to all the plucky riders still intending to start tomorrow.
I'm so glad I did it last year :thumbsup:
Whatever happens, it'll be epic ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 22, 2013, 01:38:54 pm
I'll be back out again soon, having had a rest after filming the start and seeing what the results from a hired camera are. I'll be going up to Barnard Castle to see if I can track anyone down. This is some footage from the start.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXjuCW--3xA&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on June 22, 2013, 02:02:23 pm
Hopefully the weather will be kind. I'm in Caldbeck and it's a bit windy but starting to dry up :)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on June 22, 2013, 02:13:29 pm
19-20 starters.

I'll start the bidding at 15 finishers. :D


I noticed one setting off on fixed. Looked like about 65" to me.

They should get blown up the pretty tough night section to Hexham. If the wind drops on the way to Penrith it would be very handy. I think that section will be the bit that is talked about if the wind stays up, especially if it rains as well.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 22, 2013, 02:16:28 pm
I saw two fixed, the guy with the beard and the Brixton hat, and Mike Thompson of the VC167.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Chris S on June 22, 2013, 02:20:52 pm
I saw two fixed, the guy with the beard and the Brixton hat, and Mike Thompson of the VC167.

Jonah of this parish.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on June 22, 2013, 02:27:25 pm
I hope they are using SPD or Time ATAC so they can walk a bit easier. ;D

I remember last year thinking that I walked more miles on Pendle than I do when I go for a walk.
Not that I go for a walk very often...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: teethgrinder on June 22, 2013, 02:28:45 pm
Though I did put my wheel on the wrong way around and was using a bigger gear than I'd planned. Thought it'd be good practise for Crackpot etc.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Chris S on June 22, 2013, 02:33:39 pm
Oof - steady 15mph southwesterly at RAF Leeming. Returning west is going to be rough methinks!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on June 22, 2013, 02:35:21 pm
Latest:

20-riders started this morning. No-one had arrived at Robin Hood's Bay (171km) by 12:40pm.

I'll be catching up with them all later on the way to Langwathby.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 22, 2013, 02:39:16 pm
Oof - steady 15mph southwesterly at RAF Leeming. Returning west is going to be rough methinks!

It feels a bit stronger than that out there. It'll make Stokesley to Barnie a bit of a slog.

And there are some hefty showers knocking about. Hopefully the riders can dodge 'em!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on June 22, 2013, 08:05:43 pm
The wind this side of the pennines is rather unpleasant as well St Bees Head weather station was reading SW 23mph gudsting 32mph. Whatever it was it felt bad on the way home today.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Wobbly on June 22, 2013, 09:03:12 pm
I hope they are using SPD or Time ATAC so they can walk a bit easier. ;D

...and that's why I've always used Time ATAC cleats/pedals. :-)

I suspect the Pendle chaps are in for a wild and windy night though. It's been interesting follwing some of them on Twitter - hash tag #pendle600
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Feline on June 23, 2013, 01:46:54 am
Simon was at Hexham 343k at 11.40pm. Marcus, RegT and Dr Mekon were with him. He said the wind was epic but the rain hadn't really got them yet. Apparently Jonah fell over  :o
Good luck out there all!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 23, 2013, 03:54:41 am
Now at 400k sleep stop. Descending Hartside in cloud and driving rain is not recommended. Reg and Dr Mekon here; me and Dr Mekon were 5th and 6th to arrive.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 23, 2013, 04:44:53 am
I am the 7th in and I am glad to be here. Bit touch and go descending Hartside. I was so cold and wet, really in a bad way.

Warm and dry now.

Jonah did have a tumble when another of his AC Hackney team mates clipped wheels going up a hill - it was a comedy tumble for sure. More scary sounding was bob bialek having a front tyre blowout going down Rosedale Chimney Bank (the one with sign suggesting (insisting?) that cyclists dismount to go down it.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 23, 2013, 06:34:15 am
An hour of decent kip and I am readying for the off. Look better again now.

8 riders still to come, including all 5 Hackney riders who have hopefully weathered the storms.

Man that was grim.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 23, 2013, 06:54:54 am
2 more drowned rats arrived (Jonah and Jordan).

Time for me to head on out again!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: GrahamG on June 23, 2013, 01:40:39 pm
Thanks for the updates Marcus (here and twitter!) - good to keep track. Hope all are well given the conditions!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Phil W on June 23, 2013, 06:32:03 pm
Marcus has less than 50k to go now, Hardknott and Wrynose done....
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 23, 2013, 07:41:50 pm
Sadly, I ran out of time half way round.  Setting off nearly an hour late, due to a sequence of mishaps didn't help, but the main reason was too much work and too little sleep in the run up - just did not have it in me to fight that wind.  Fell asleep on the bike between Barnard C and Hexham, so had a kip in a bus shelter and when I woke up the time was out.  Cycled to Langwathby - heading West to Alston was ridiculously hard.  Caught the train to Helifield and rode down to Pendleton.

Massive well done to all the finishers, for June that was bordering on the silly.  The Easter Arrow was easier.

Kevin - hope you got home OK, and Bob - well done for clawing time back after your enforced stop, hope you finished in time.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 23, 2013, 07:50:22 pm
Commiserations, Paul.  Starting something like this with insufficient sleep is a real disadvantage.  It must have been pretty tough - and you knew what to expect from last year.  Anyone who finishes this ride (as you did last year) has done something special.  There will be some tales to tell....
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: veloboy on June 23, 2013, 07:53:28 pm
Well, damn that was a hard ride!!!
Thought I wasn't going to make my train from Clitheroe today, but with the help of Swiss Hat and Ray, we kept chipping away at the never ending climbs, rain and wind! We got in just after 17:00, leaving me about 10min to spare to make my train... 👍
Knackered now - more later, but surely one of the hardest 600's 😩
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 23, 2013, 07:57:44 pm
Bad luck, Rev!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: tubbycyclist on June 23, 2013, 08:08:58 pm
Sadly, I ran out of time half way round.  Setting off nearly an hour late, due to a sequence of mishaps didn't help, but the main reason was too much work and too little sleep in the run up - just did not have it in me to fight that wind.  Fell asleep on the bike between Barnard C and Hexham, so had a kip in a bus shelter and when I woke up the time was out.  Cycled to Langwathby - heading West to Alston was ridiculously hard.  Caught the train to Helifield and rode down to Pendleton.

Massive well done to all the finishers, for June that was bordering on the silly.  The Easter Arrow was easier.

Kevin - hope you got home OK, and Bob - well done for clawing time back after your enforced stop, hope you finished in time.


Sorry to hear that - must have been a tough overnight section. I knew I was done for when I started losing time on the "easy section" whilst fighting the head wind and thought the tops would be tough. Rode into the westerly this morning to get the car from Pendleton and it must have been even incredibly difficult going over to Seascale. Fair play to Robert - after his blow out on Rosedale Bank he came off on another descent after another front wheel blow out and looked shaken at Robin Hood's Bay. Must have been tough to make back time after that.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 23, 2013, 08:39:51 pm
DrMekon and I finished about 20 minutes ago. Almost 1000m climbing in the final 50-odd k for extra spice.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Chris S on June 23, 2013, 08:44:38 pm
DrMekon and I finished about 20 minutes ago. Almost 1000m climbing in the final 50-odd k for extra spice.

Well done!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: veloboy on June 23, 2013, 08:48:30 pm
Oh, yes and there we were, thinking we were on a 'roll' having felt the faster A-roads to Carnforth went better than thought!
Quite especially cruel on the last 24km (that was above the 600 mark) - always a nice touch! 😱
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 23, 2013, 09:39:32 pm
In just before 9. Brutal. It would be a very hard ride on a good day.

With conditions like we have faced with the wind and rain, I am amazed we all made it!

There is no doubt this is the hardest 600 in the land. An incredible mix of climbing, long stuff, short sharp stuff, stuff that shouldn't be a road.

Amazing.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Phil W on June 23, 2013, 10:14:57 pm
Well done all, looking forward to ride reports. On my list for when it next runs.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on June 23, 2013, 10:31:41 pm
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Simon at Robin Hood Bay - the sun explains my red face in the next pic - very sunburnt.

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With Simon and Reg at the end. Is Simon asleep?

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This is my smug face. Set myself the goal of not walking any of it. Got up Hardknott (and Wrynose) despite drivers from both directions being pretty assertive.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 23, 2013, 10:42:15 pm
Some scary photos of your head there, Dr M. ;D

Well done, everyone, finishers and those who fell by the wayside.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 24, 2013, 12:01:58 am
Is Bob OK, does anyone know?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 24, 2013, 12:12:14 am
Is Bob OK, does anyone know?

Sure Andy will update fully, but from my understanding, he was okay physically but was being troubled with issues trying to repair the tyre?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 24, 2013, 12:40:53 am
marcus, thanks for that - and well done!  I'm looking at the riders mentioned so far and I'm wondering if any vets rode at all.  I can think of one or two who might get round it - but not many.

@ Simonp

I'm imagining your SR and it looks something like this:-

200  perm          2.25 AAA
300 Yr Elenydd  3      AAA
600 BCM            8.25 AAA
600 Pendle       10     AAA

That is some series - well done!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 24, 2013, 06:57:55 am
What a pussycat of a ride.  At least half of it was downhill. And we had a tailwind for half of it  O:-)

RR later. But this is the best 600 I've ever done.  Hard to fault.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 24, 2013, 07:29:39 am
What a pussycat of a ride.  At least half of it was downhill. And we had a tailwind for half of it  O:-)

RR later. But this is the best 600 I've ever done.  Hard to fault.

Yeah, the downhills were dead easy as well. Not one scary hairpin with 33% gradients, rubbish surface etc.

My arms and hands are quite sore today from some of the crazier descents. I won't lie, lots of bits of me are quite sore today.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hummers on June 24, 2013, 08:09:20 am
Cracking stuff m'dears  :thumbsup:

Am quite envious - which is odd in itself  ;D

H
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on June 24, 2013, 08:36:43 am
What a pussycat of a ride.  At least half of it was downhill. And we had a tailwind for half of it  O:-)

RR later. But this is the best 600 I've ever done.  Hard to fault.

Yeah, the downhills were dead easy as well. Not one scary hairpin with 33% gradients, rubbish surface etc.

My arms and hands are quite sore today from some of the crazier descents. I won't lie, lots of bits of me are quite sore today.

+1 to both. Care from Damon and Andy at the controls was wonderful.

I was thinking I need new shoes (sore feet, possibly going to lose both big toenails) and gloves (palms a bit raw from all the climbing / braking). Or maybe it's par for the course on this ride.

The combo of the wet and the braking has done for my brake blocks pretty much. The rear in particularly looks very sorry for itself having spent so long in drag brake mode. Other than that, and the saddle being somewhat less accommodating than I'm used to, new bike was a joy - no back or neck issues, despite the aggressive looking position. Bike fit paid dividends for me.

Forearms and face are really sunburnt. Showering wasn't fun.

Looking forward to seeing more photos from the ride. My memory goes into low-power mode on these rides. I said to Simon "Whinlatter pass was my favourite bit" - he replied something about the descent section being prettiest, and I realised I had no memories of it at all.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: tonyh on June 24, 2013, 08:54:40 am
Admiration! That's some brilliant riding! Congrats to all.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 24, 2013, 08:55:10 am

@ Simonp

I'm imagining your SR and it looks something like this:-

200  perm          2.25 AAA
300 Yr Elenydd  3      AAA
600 BCM            8.25 AAA
600 Pendle       10     AAA

That is some series - well done!

I never really set out with that intention this season and hadn't thought about the AAA points total. The Elenith is 5 AAA in fact. So it makes 25.5 AAA for the SR ignoring the other 200 we did on the tandem.

That ride was far harder than the Mille Cymru but the weather was a major factor. I repeatedly said never again but already I'm not so sure. One thing I am sure of: never on fixed!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on June 24, 2013, 09:03:00 am
Some pictures

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The start

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SimonP

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Hexham, where it's hard to find fit birds.

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Wrynose, from Hardknott.

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Numbers, with the stones at the top of Hardknott.

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The end
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 24, 2013, 09:06:04 am
Hexham. Drunk kid (looked underage) appears next to us while we were eating asking us where the best place to get booze in Hexham was.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on June 24, 2013, 09:27:31 am
I feel somewhat insulted that he assumed you and Marcus would know where the best place is for booze and fit birds in Hexham, but that I wasn't worth asking.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: vorsprung on June 24, 2013, 09:29:50 am
There is no doubt this is the hardest 600 in the land. An incredible mix of climbing, long stuff, short sharp stuff, stuff that shouldn't be a road.

haha, I think you've found the strap line for your Arrivee article there
With the weather predicted I wouldn't have even started.  Chapeau to you Mr Sexy Mudflaps
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 24, 2013, 10:29:27 am

@ Simonp

I'm imagining your SR and it looks something like this:-

200  perm          2.25 AAA
300 Yr Elenydd  3      AAA
600 BCM            8.25 AAA
600 Pendle       10     AAA

That is some series - well done!

I never really set out with that intention this season and hadn't thought about the AAA points total. The Elenith is 5 AAA in fact. So it makes 25.5 AAA for the SR ignoring the other 200 we did on the tandem.

That ride was far harder than the Mille Cymru but the weather was a major factor. I repeatedly said never again but already I'm not so sure. One thing I am sure of: never on fixed!

Yes, sorry, I know that really, having done every one of those 5 points myself!

But looking at Mekon's av. speed at Hardknott, I don't think I'd have a chance of getting round this.  Was there anyone over 45 on it?

Well done, everyone (again).
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 24, 2013, 10:33:39 am
Only ride I have ever done where seeing a 20% gradient sign was a relief.

Stage 2 to Robin Hood's Bay is a classic. Some of the most relentless riding I have ever done in my life.

I have to say, I was very concerned when I got there. The thought of another 420km of that and I knew I wouldn't be able to do it. Luckily, many of the next stages featured huge long, but shallower, climbs up above 500m, which are nowhere near as tiring as the 33% and 25% stuff!

Edited to add - though everyone focuses on hardknott and wynrose, they don't take up much time in reality (walking or riding). Pleased to have ridden up them both though! I did have to dismount and walk one bend on hardknott as the road was awash with oil and I didn't fancy testing the grip available.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 24, 2013, 10:36:42 am
That's ok, then.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 24, 2013, 11:01:21 am
I am terrible at judging ages, I won't name names, but there were riders over 45 for sure! Many of us are in our 40s.

Being 12, Jordan "The Kid" brings the average age down somewhat!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 24, 2013, 11:03:30 am
 :)

Regrettably, I am considerably over 45!  But I love the route.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 24, 2013, 02:56:41 pm
<usual apols for length>

The wind cancelled out my momentum on the descent, the rain pricking my skin and stinging my eyes like a vapour of hornets.  I could hardly see through the cloud that enveloped me in the early morning light at 500m above sea level.  It was madness to descend Hartside at 5am in a storm, but to stop would have been even more foolish.  Darkness had been and gone, and there was the light of Langsworthy at the end of the tunnel.  Rarely have I been so abused by rampant and raw nature.  I eventually rolled towards the control where Andy stood outside; he had been concerned that I had gone missing as I was expected several hours ago.  I explained I'd stopped some 25km away in Alston at 2:30 out of habit, shivering in quasi-sleep in a Spar forecourt, deciding not to push on in the dark because my body (and speed) was slowing down.  Indeed, the gradual ticking down on the average speed on the GPS (20.3 tick 20.2 tock 20.1 tick) since Hexham was weighing me down over Alston Moor. 

Andy and Damon did a great job of fussing on my arrival in Langsworthy, but thankfully not too much.  After some tea and toast I stole away behind the stage for another hour and a bit of sleep.  My rain sodden clothes dripped and sizzled on a radiator in the main hall, whilst I drifted off.  I woke to clear skies and a much diminished wind, the descent now feeling like a story to tell.  Optimism blossomed in the fertile ground of my esprit de corpse; I would finish this character building ride despite the doubts I had previously.

How different the experience was the previous day.  I was brimming with nervous energy in the start HQ in Pendleton, having been apprehensive about the task ahead and being found wanting.  Pride on the line and all that jazz.  The first stage was a fast paced dash to the Yorkshire Dales at Plately Bridge where I'd done a 200 a couple of weeks previously.  The area was as scenic and hilly as that ride suggested - Jonah evidenced this as he "timbered" to the ground on a particularly steep incline (one of the perils of riding fixed).  Bob Bailek appeared determined to make a breakaway from the peleton on this stage, pushing ferociously on the pedals on descents, his escape having been frustrated on uphill roads.  After about 40km, normal order asserted itself as Veloboy and Swiss Hat glided effortlessly into the distance on the run in to Ripon.

The next stage was a relatively benign run out to the Yorkshire Moors, and then some ferocious climbing in the indistinct sun.  I suspect Yorkshire County Council has made a mistake in the past and batched ordered only two signs for gradients: 25% and 30%. Being Yorkshire, allegedly filled with people who have deep pockets and short arms, they couldn't face spending more money and scattered the surplus signs around the area.  The Moors were quite stunning to ride through, and whilst tough, offered a fair challenge.  Rosedale was challenging in both directions (I stopped to help a rider who had misjudged a hairpin and gone over the side, lucky to only have superficial lacerations to the face - perhaps Bob Harding?  Beard with a Calder CC top?)  and the rest of the stage had several hard gradients.  But the pay off was the descent to Robin Hood Bay, a stunning coastal view.  Only the arrival at Portland Bill on the Porkers 400 has matched it this year. 

All those I saw at the Candy Cafe appeared to be in good humour - SimonP and Dr Mekon looked as if they were on their holidays - a tailwind having helped progress such that we were well up on the closing time.  That was to be a useful buffer for what was about to come.

The tailwind had pushed us from Lancashire to the Yorkshire Coast, and turning westward it was clear that unless it dropped the next 300km were going to be tough.  The road from Whitby was a long drag made dispiriting by the constant wall of air, and the rest of the third and fourth stage to Barnard Castle was relatively open; some flat, some rolling.  On a clear day, this would mean making solid progress against the clock.  As it was, the headwind frustrated progress.  I made up no more than 30 minutes on the two stages (would have been more, but there was an enforced 5km diversion due to closure of the A67) which evaporated on stopping at the garage control to take on some fuel. Marcus and I chatted knowingly about the headwind, and he confirmed that I hadn't imagined that Andy had poked his head out of a car window to give encouragement.

I had a handful of hours until the sun extinguished itself on the second longest day of the year.  As such, I saw much of the Northern Pennines in their dusk infused glory, the altimeter reaching the heady heights of 500m twice.  The area was relatively hushed, and having turned slightly north the headwind was less of a hinderence.  Progress was being made on the way to Hexham, but I was starting to feel a bit groggy, being slightly worn down by the past 100km.  Having tackled at least one 20% slope in the dark after Bellingham, wheel bouncing against the road in tempo with my pedal strokes, I scouted out a bench/monument around 10km outside Hexham to clear the head, lay down to power nap and was woken by the tickling sensation of light rain on my face.

I descended to Hexham for a quick ATM receipt (it was pub clearing out time in the North, which means randy lassies - I was honoured to get the attention of one fine specimen! - and simmering blokes - fortunately I didn't see anything kick off!) and then headed out into the wilderness. 

The wind was back.  With a vengeance.  There was light drizzle and what I thought was 4 to 5 hours to the sanctuary of the overnight control.  The speedometer suggested that was optimistic.  I had been chasing Marcus' tailight up Alston Moor, passed him in the village and promptly turned for a rest at the Spar.  I woke at 4am and then had a torrid next 2 hours.  Still, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger they say.

My stop in Alston meant I stumbled into Langsworthy at 6am.  I couldn't quite fathom why Andy and Damon asked repeatedly if I was okay.  A look in the mirror showed why: glowing face from sunburn and wind and crimson eyes which looked ready to burst.  To be honest, the descent from Hartside made me think about packing.  If the wind/rain had still been lashing down at 7am, it is touch and go whether my ride to Penrith would have been to catch a train.  As it was, Andy provided reassuring words to the effect that you could leave an hour after closing and still make it round in time (he was right of course) and I saw Marcus making a move and remembered his words on the forum about having climb more AAA hills than anyone else this year.  This gave me a bit of self-belief and I ventured out having changed clothes to those I had been carrying (the socks were soon soaked again though, due to still wet shoes).

The ride along the A66 was slow but steady.  Traffic was light because of the hour, but the rolling road coupled with the westerly wind, meant determination was needed as I cycled past Penrith and then Kendall.  I passed Marcus after Kendall, and he didn't seem to be in the swing of things yet. 

The turn to Whinlatter was a relief, as it meant I was back in the hills rather than exposed roads.  I'd never done Whinlatter pass before, but it was gorgeous.  Almost Alpine in the way that it curls up the side of the hill through welcome tree cover, with several expansive and quite stunning vistas opening out.  And coupled with a fantastic gradual descent down the other side. 

We then rolled through lanes to Seascale, interupted only with another quite marvelous climb and descent from Ennerdale to Calder Bridge (with Damon capturing me in my element...)  The sea at the west coast was being beaten into a froth by the gale, much to my relief because the next 150km was to benefit from its impulse.  I gleefully tucked into a second breakfast at the friendly cafe next to the suggested control, and then ventured out towards Hardknott and Wrynose.  I dislike these passes and wouldn't wish them on my worst enemies.  Not because they are hard (which they are) but because the roads are spoiled by passing cars and motorbikes which steal from their stark beauty.  Still, it is what it is, and I got over them by nook or by crook, reconnecting with modern life after Ambleside on the traffic laden A592(?) and then left it behind after Barrow on a less travelled A-road which really benefitted from mighty Zehpyr.

SimonP looked knackered when I saw him at the Truckhaven in Carnforth. DrMekon less so.  Marcus simply looked ravenous as he tucked into Sunday lunch.  I was keen to finish without lights, so quickly wolfed down a nomtastic baked potato and picked my way down the A6 to Lancaster.  The hills started again in earnest, but by God they were wonderful.  I can't remember if I'd ever pedalled the Trough of Bowland before, but if ever there is a finer more contemplative way to wind down a ride I can't think of it.  It is like an area time has forgotten, with a river running through it, bordered with heather covered slopes.  The area allowed me to reflect over the previous day and a half, and I felt an emerging rush of accomplishment from something that is hard fought to obtain.  There was one final vicious climb (L at some inn; only 14% but felt like more) before a generous descent towards the the finish control and the congratulations of Andy.

Sitting at home now, I am sore and slightly shell shocked.  This was a very hard ride, no bones about it.  But it is a fair ride.  Yes there are a lot of hills, many of them challenging, but those can be built up to and are manageable both physically and mentally.  I suspect Andy put this route together to enthrall rather than inflict.  As such, the route mixed hard stages with others that allow you to recover.  In the hands of a more deranged organiser, this could be significantly harder but significantly less enjoyable.  I guess that's me saying "thanks" for putting the event on Andy (and also to Damon for helping on the day).

Oh, my reflection in the Trough of Bowland was this.  The Pendle is by head and shoulders my favourite 600.  Period.  I feel priviliged to have ridden it and completed it.  Everyone who aspires to audacity should put this ride on their wish list.  By being bold, and enduring the challenge to the end, you will achieve a sense of satisfaction and reward that money simply can't buy.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Henry on June 24, 2013, 04:00:20 pm
Bravo, bravo...sounds truly epic! Extra hat off to Justin on fixed, I'll want gears with a dinner plate/satellite dish size cog on back if I ever try this one.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Reg.T on June 24, 2013, 04:04:47 pm
^^^ Great RR, Hillbilly

Regrettably, I am considerably over 45!  But I love the route.
I'm over 45 (what constitutes considerably ???), and I love the route too!

That was for sure a hard weekend of riding, but immensely rewarding too. My first Audax up north, and well worth the trip. It is a superb event with a sense of purpose and ambition.

After hearing the rain during the night, I was very relieved to find that it had stopped by the time I got up at 4, though the much more predictable wind was still evident.

The first 2 eastwards legs to Robin Hood's Bay via Ripon were great, especially with the strong tailwind. I think everyone was keen to build up some time in hand, knowing that it would hard to create any more on the westward legs to follow. It was lovely sitting in the sunshine at the cafe on the sheltered coast, but we couldn't hang around for too long.

Hooked up with simonp and Dr Mekon for the next  2 legs, to try to make better progress as a unit, but we got a bit separated at times, and more so on the next leg up to Hexham, when I was starting to slow up, though I leapfrogged them and Marcus by not stopping to eat. I expected them to catch me on the stage to Langwathby, but in the end I rode the rest of the event solo.

The ascent of Hartside was ok as I entered the cloud, but it was quite thick at the top, and started to rain at the summit, making the descent very hairy. I'd normally use the central road markings in this situation to give a margin for error on either side, but road repairs meant that they kept disappearing. It's at times like these that a GPS can be a real benefit so that you know which way the road is going to go, and where the hairpin bends are. Like many others I got very cold on the way down, but decided that the proximity of the hall (which was lovely and warm) meant it wasn't worth trying to layer-up any more.

I'd expected to ride this event on no sleep, and as I was feeling that I was slowing down I decided to stick to that plan, so rolled back out into the rain at about 4:30. The almost constant headwind made it hard going, but the aero bars made it more manageable. It was a great relief to get to Seascale, and the anticipation of side/tail winds for the remainder of the ride made me turn around quickly rather than stop to explore its obvious charms.

The challenges of the Hard Knott and Wrynose passes were next, and they were unlike any other road riding I've done. I walked to two sections of hairpins on the first (I think if I had more experience of anything that steep, I probably would have had more confidence to try them), but rode all of Wrynose. Managed the descents slowly and without too much drama, but stopped halfway down Wrynose to let everything cool down a bit.

Traffic became more of an issue between here and Lancaster, perhaps magnified by quietness of the roads up to there. I was looking forwards to Andy's promise of a more benign end to the route after Kendal until the climb out of Lancaster, but then glanced at my coursepoints on the GPS and saw that there were climbs of 200m and 125m still to come. In fact I really enjoyed the Jubilee climb in sunshine and with a strong wind on my back, but perhaps a little too much as by the time I got to the bottom of the descent I found that my legs wanted to end the ride there. Struggled through a dozy few km which I think must have included the last climb, but regained my senses to find that if I pressed on I could squeeze in to finish in under 35h, despite 2 visitations on the way round (if you don't know why I wrote more see my post from last weekend's National 400 (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=67105.msg1505101#msg1505101)).

Last night my knees were quite achy. Today I feel pretty good - much better than after any of my other (3) 600s. I put this down to a combination of preparation (this ride concludes my 2nd AAA-SR of the season) and finally getting to grips with my own needs around pacing and nutrition etc.

Many thanks to Andy for putting on this special event, and to Damon for assisting. Thanks also to HyperSi for encouraging me last year to think about tackling this ride.

Well done to everyone who started. Special mentions to Gadget who tackled this as his first 600, and also to Marcus and Jonah for completing their Hyper SR series.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: swiss hat on June 24, 2013, 04:10:05 pm
Having a few days post ride R&R in Morecambe and the Lake District. It's still blowing a hoolie but the sun is out.

A memorable ride mainly for the shared experience with Veloboy and Ray R for the full 619km. The hills were expected but the wind was not. Hard hard work all the way from Robin Hoods Bay to Seascale; the shared effort got us round in good shape with time for a decent sleep and a late afternoon finish. I would not have wanted to battle into that wind solo - respect to those that did.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on June 24, 2013, 06:31:18 pm
Thanks to all the riders who entered.

34 entered.
20 started.
17 finished.

A strong westerly wind blew the riders out to the coast at Robin Hood's Bay via the North York Moors where a few riders came a cropper on Rosedale Chimney. A couple of blow-outs and 1 rider falling off.

The riders then turned into a fierce headwind for the flatter leg across to Barnard Castle, before turning north into the northern Pennines, where the wind and driving rain played havoc on the A686, making the Hartside Pass crossing almost a survival battle.

Fortunately, the riders were assured of a warm welcome at the Langwathby control before venturing out into the early morning drizzle and on into the Lake District, still battling the headwind, which was persistent all the way from east to west coast. After Seascale, the riders turned into the tailwind which was helpful over both Hardknott & Wrynose Passes, where riders pushing their bikes up Hardknott seemed to be ahead of some of those trying to ride it! >:(

The riders faced the climbs of Jubilee, Trough of Bowland and Cow Ark on the final leg back to the finish.

Thanks again to all those who entered and to Damon Peacock  for helping out at langwathby and also fimling riders throughout.

The event will run next in 2015. :thumbsup:

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on June 24, 2013, 06:54:39 pm

The event will run next in 2015. :thumbsup:

Sounds like good prep for PBP!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 24, 2013, 06:55:43 pm
Andy, thank you so much for everything. We were so well cared for by yourself and Damon. I have never been so glad to reach a control as I was after Hartside. I was in a bit of a mess with the cold and wet.

A truly fabulous route that takes you through some beautiful landscape, via some delightful climbs and a few real ****ers.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mattc on June 24, 2013, 07:15:34 pm

The event will run next in 2015. :thumbsup:

Sounds like good prep for PBP!
What a shame - I'd pencilled it in for 2014. I'm washing my hair in 2015.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 24, 2013, 07:23:49 pm
Call his bluff Andy!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: trumpet on June 24, 2013, 09:10:21 pm
Bravo, bravo...sounds truly epic! Extra hat off to Justin on fixed, I'll want gears with a dinner plate/satellite dish size cog on back if I ever try this one.

Chapeau ! Epic undertaking on a fixie !
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 24, 2013, 11:52:41 pm
I'm pretty sure that's Jonah's second year running on fixed, isn't it?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 24, 2013, 11:56:05 pm
Yep.  Pretty commonplace now  :P

Oh.  And running might be the right verb.  From what I saw, doing this on t'cog is more like cyclocross than road riding  ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 25, 2013, 12:01:23 am
Two riders on t'cog - Jonah and another chap, who I didn't catch his name (but was running a much more sensible sized gear than Jonah)

I have to say, forget the going up hills bit on fixed - I have no concept of how they got down some of those hills. The descent between Hardknott and Wynrose, for example, was truly terrifying and I can not begin to imagine how you would ride over those corrugations on fixed!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 25, 2013, 12:19:28 am
The other fixed rider was Mike Thompson of the VC 167. I first met Mike on PBP 2007 when he turned up at the PBP campsite with M Series. This photo of us at the end includes Heather Swift, the controller at Brampton in this year's LEL, and Riccardo Gravina, an Italian chancer, currently in Lucerne in Switzerland.

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2365/2541521791_980649dbdb_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Wobbly on June 25, 2013, 12:29:09 am
Nice to see your daughter in that photo ESL  ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 25, 2013, 12:34:37 am
The only one I'm not in contact with at the moment is M Series, which is a pity, because he is an amusing bloke.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Chuffy on June 25, 2013, 12:36:42 am
You are all mad sods, it sounds horrendous. I'll stick with the soft Southern delights of Dartmoor in future. Dartmeet and Widecombe sound like a stretch of railway path by comparison.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 25, 2013, 06:18:18 pm
You are all mad sods, it sounds horrendous. I'll stick with the soft Southern delights of Dartmoor in future. Dartmeet and Widecombe sound like a stretch of railway path by comparison.

Oh, it wasn't horrendous.  It was spectacular.  I'm looking back on it with ever increasing fondness, even the headwind.  It is an experience etched into my audax DNA, that I can speak knowingly to 16 other people about.  We were there, my band of brothers  :)

Worst hill I did this AUK year was in Dartmoor (on the Devil).  Peppenden or whatever it is called.  Nothing on the Pennine compared to that for the "the routesheet can't be serious - surely we've all taken a wrong turn" moment.  Well, maybe there was one in the North Yorks Moors (25% after a village starting with H) but at least it had something one could identify as a road surface(!)  That climb in the NYM had the choice between two roads - straight on was a mere 20% slope....

Dartmeet and Widecombe were similar to the climbs in the last 30km of the Pennine (Jubilee was very similar in fact).  I find those type of climbs enjoyable, even with just shy of 600km in the legs.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: JordanCarroll on June 25, 2013, 06:50:43 pm
^Forgot to say Billy, thanks for the heads up about the cafe in seascale, had a lovely bacon and egg sandwich!  :smug:

Eagerly awaiting further installments of the Pendle videos from E.S.L  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 25, 2013, 07:11:46 pm
^Forgot to say Billy, thanks for the heads up about the cafe in seascale, had a lovely bacon and egg sandwich!  :smug:

Eagerly awaiting further installments of the Pendle videos from E.S.L  :thumbsup:

In turn I have to thank Dr Mekon and SimonP who gave exactly the same heads up to me....
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 25, 2013, 07:35:01 pm
I've done a 17 minute video. There are a few glitches, and the music comes in too loud at 2 mins 34 seconds, the music will not be to everyone's taste, but the lyric fits. Check out the Pirate Funk video on Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=903iZjUCQx4&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: JordanCarroll on June 25, 2013, 07:57:23 pm
Love it!!  ;D

Thumbs up for the sound track as well haha!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Chris S on June 25, 2013, 07:58:56 pm
Can I just say:

1. You're all fucking nuts.
c. What a brilliant looking ride - I may have to give that one a go. One day.
vii. That's the best video I've seen of yours, ESL. Great stuff! Thank you.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 25, 2013, 08:08:59 pm
Cracking video. 

I just wish one of us had a helmet cam or something to show just how horrific it was up on top of Hartside in the middle of the night.  Really was scary stuff.

I still can't believe I managed it.  It really is the hardest ride I have ever done, especially with that weather.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Chuffy on June 25, 2013, 08:13:27 pm
You are all mad sods, it sounds horrendous. I'll stick with the soft Southern delights of Dartmoor in future. Dartmeet and Widecombe sound like a stretch of railway path by comparison.

Oh, it wasn't horrendous.  It was spectacular.  I'm looking back on it with ever increasing fondness, even the headwind.  It is an experience etched into my audax DNA, that I can speak knowingly to 16 other people about.  We were there, my band of brothers  :)

Ah, 'spectacular'. Yes, I know this one. Translated from Audax into English it means 'horrendous'. See also 'scenic'/'bastard hilly'.

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Worst hill I did this AUK year was in Dartmoor (on the Devil).  Peppenden or whatever it is called.  Nothing on the Pennine compared to that for the "the routesheet can't be serious - surely we've all taken a wrong turn" moment.  Well, maybe there was one in the North Yorks Moors (25% after a village starting with H) but at least it had something one could identify as a road surface(!)  That climb in the NYM had the choice between two roads - straight on was a mere 20% slope....

Dartmeet and Widecombe were similar to the climbs in the last 30km of the Pennine (Jubilee was very similar in fact).  I find those type of climbs enjoyable, even with just shy of 600km in the legs.
Peppardon? Oh, that silly old thing.  ::-) True, the road surface is buried under several layers of compressed leaves and shite but it's not that bad if you have the right gearing. Anyway, it's too short to be a real monster. 10k vertical in 600k? Now that's a monster.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on June 25, 2013, 08:33:24 pm
Brilliant video. Still a bit too frazzled to do a ride report. Had 3 big meetings at work since yesterday. Contribution has been decidedly sub-par.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: daniele on June 25, 2013, 08:36:48 pm
I've done a 17 minute video. There are a few glitches, and the music comes in too loud at 2 mins 34 seconds, the music will not be to everyone's taste, but the lyric fits. Check out the Pirate Funk video on Youtube.


Thank you for this beautiful film.

Congratulations and honors to all who started The Pendle 600 2013  :thumbsup:
Finishers didn't seem too tired though  ;)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: JordanCarroll on June 25, 2013, 08:40:57 pm
Billy's fistpump at 14mins haha!  ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Phil W on June 25, 2013, 09:02:43 pm
On my list for 2015 during PBP build up, diary filling up already :-)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on June 25, 2013, 09:03:11 pm
I wouldn't use it as your qualifier 600 though
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 25, 2013, 09:06:17 pm
I wouldn't use it as your qualifier 600 though

Agreed.  Get an early season banker before tackling this.

Not a normal 600 and has opportunities to really bite you.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Phil W on June 25, 2013, 09:07:19 pm
I reckon the BCM 600 can be my qualifier
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 25, 2013, 09:53:07 pm
I wouldn't use it as your qualifier 600 though

Agreed.  Get an early season banker before tackling this.

Not a normal 600 and has opportunities to really bite you.

It bit me big style.  Just goes to show that you should never take a ride for granted.  I had a 600 under my belt already, I did not prepare well due to work/family, I'd done it before, so I was way too casual.  I thought that I could rock up and ride it.  I found out the hard way that it wasn't going to be that way.  In a way it's a blessing in disguise, as I won't be doing that again!

I'd also say that I enjoyed watching the video upthread.  Hearing about Hartside, which I came down in the light, made me almost glad that I packed!  Instead of doing that, I was safe and sound in my foil bag fast asleep.  That was 200g well worth carrying.  The ones who rode through that night really deserved the tailwind to head East again.  That exposed stretch to Keswick must have been a 'mare.  The shelter of the trees on the Whinlatter must have been a real boon.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: veloboy on June 25, 2013, 10:00:46 pm
I've done a 17 minute video. There are a few glitches, and the music comes in too loud at 2 mins 34 seconds, the music will not be to everyone's taste, but the lyric fits. Check out the Pirate Funk video on Youtube.

Fantastic!!! Really enjoyed that!!!  ;D...And just how often do you get to pre-order your pizza on the road to the control?!!  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Redlight on June 25, 2013, 10:22:34 pm
Great video, Damon. Had me laughing and wincing in equal measures. And made me want to have a go in 2015!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: JordanCarroll on June 25, 2013, 10:33:55 pm
Where can I see more pictures of the Thorn? It's a lovely bike but I never took a closer look :)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 25, 2013, 11:02:19 pm
My intention had been to test equipment and methods for LEL, but also to focus on the ride in Yorkshire, as a prelude to the Tour. But I realised that the early start and the cold weather weren't conducive to survival. So I went home, rested and picked up the ride at Barnard Castle.
It would have been nice to film the final Jubilee and Trough of Bowland climbs, but it was better to film the riders coming into Langwathby, and to help out with that control. Just finding people on the road is an art in itself. I think I'd have been capable of riding the event in about 2001.
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Post by: marcusjb on June 26, 2013, 09:01:20 am
And a bit of write up:

http://marcusjb.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/pendle-600-a-scenic-tour-of-the-northern-half-of-england/
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Post by: Peter on June 26, 2013, 10:27:04 am
Marcus, that's a great write-up.  Once again, congratulations on a superb effort to everyone.  I watched the video (thanks ESL) and was horrified at the conditions you were all experiencing.  I'm full of admiration for all of you and that anyone conquered this ride without walking, and it seems to have been at least a few.  Dr Mekon's masterclass in zig-zagging up either Wrynose or Hardknott was a jaw-dropper.  The road was so wet but he was riding so smoothly there didn't seem to be any possibility of wheel-spin.  Incredibly impressive riding.

Well done all!
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Post by: Hillbilly on June 26, 2013, 11:15:57 am
And a bit of write up

Another fine record. 

Good luck with you adventures on the continent, which the Pendle will have no doubt given you a bit of an insight into.  Hopefully you won't get the same conditions on top of the Pyrenees as on Hartside!  Be sure to write about that adventure, as although I am not minded to do it this year, it is something I suspect I'll try my hand at in the future.
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Post by: marcusjb on June 26, 2013, 11:20:24 am
Thanks! The Super Randonees are quite interesting due to the relaxed time limits (50 hours for ones with 10000m of ascent and I get 60 hours to do this one due to the 15000m of climbing) - so it's 3 good hard days in the saddle, but with opportunity to sleep in a hotel each night (I hope!).  So whilst it will be hard, I hope to be able to enjoy some relaxation and eating well. 

Does of course require that they rebuild the roads around Tourmalet after the awful flooding they've had in the past couple of weeks.

It should also be noted that French ascent figures seem different from UK ones - if we take ridebygps as the most accurate, then my ride actually has around 18000m of climbing, whereas bikeroutetoaster has it at 14500m.  Then the actually climbing is different - no 33% knee smashers!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Phil W on June 26, 2013, 12:40:57 pm
Great account, but you must stop writing them up as they keep encouraging me to ride them, and my list is growing faster than I can ride them  ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Reg.T on June 26, 2013, 12:46:29 pm
Where can I see more pictures of the Thorn? It's a lovely bike but I never took a closer look :)
Mine? Cheers. It's taken a while, but it's now set up pretty well for me, I think. I'll try to post something in the Members' Bikes thread of the gallery once it's cleaned up.
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Post by: mattc on June 26, 2013, 01:03:26 pm
I've done a 17 minute video. There are a few glitches, and the music comes in too loud at 2 mins 34 seconds, the music will not be to everyone's taste, but the lyric fits. Check out the Pirate Funk video on Youtube.

http:// www.you tube.com/watch?v=903iZjUCQx4&feature=youtu.be
Really enjoyed that - well done to all the actors!

I liked the rainbow at the start, and the sheep moment at 11:20ish. And everything else of course.

Was the DrMekon tacking shot taken on Wrynose (the 2nd easier climb)? I've only been over there once, things always look different on film. I've never seen tacking filmed so perfectly.

(The music is great. I just think you should look for subjects that suit your musical preference, as this way round really doesn't seem to work for you. )
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: LEE on June 26, 2013, 01:24:20 pm
Well done to all who even started this one.

I've never done anything that tough but I can fully appreciate, from experience, that prolonged cold,  rain and wind never made a ride any easier. 
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: JordanCarroll on June 26, 2013, 02:38:32 pm
Mine? Cheers. It's taken a while, but it's now set up pretty well for me, I think. I'll try to post something in the Members' Bikes thread of the gallery once it's cleaned up.

Ahh it must be, I understand the choice of avatar now as well haha! Separated at birth!
Thanks I'll keep an eye out for it :)
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Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 26, 2013, 04:59:04 pm
I've done some fiddling with the sound on the video. Boosting the levels of the interviews and lowering the level of the music. So it's a better version to link to. As I say, this was a technical rehearsal for LEL.

There would have been two of us if the weather had been good. But the small number of riders make it difficult to predict when anyone will turn up, and standing at the top of windy mountain passes for long periods is guaranteed to put collaborators off.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiZWD7T1HuM&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 26, 2013, 06:16:50 pm
If The Who's song had been called "My Degeneration" it might have been more appropriate - but luckily most made it!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: caerau on June 26, 2013, 06:35:09 pm
I felt both sick, admiration and inspiration watching that video.  Well bloody done, the lot of you.  This one is not on my list until I've lost another 3 stone at least!  I'm not sure I'll ever be capable of getting over the worst of those climbs!
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Post by: Sergeant Pluck on June 26, 2013, 10:43:53 pm
Great movie. Well done to all - you're all as hard as nails.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: MAC on June 26, 2013, 11:12:24 pm
...there would have been two of us if the weather had been good. But the small number of riders make it difficult to predict when anyone will turn up, and standing at the top of windy mountain passes for long periods is guaranteed to put collaborators off.
Pretty sure I'll never be up for riding this as a 600 but would be more than happy to do some filming along the route in 2014 and also help out at a control or two. Let me know if you are doing this next year ESL.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 27, 2013, 12:07:21 am
...there would have been two of us if the weather had been good. But the small number of riders make it difficult to predict when anyone will turn up, and standing at the top of windy mountain passes for long periods is guaranteed to put collaborators off.
Pretty sure I'll never be up for riding this as a 600 but would be more than happy to do some filming along the route in 2014 and also help out at a control or two. Let me know if you are doing this next year ESL.

It's Andy Corless who's to be thanked for putting the Pendle 600 on. I literally just turned up on the day and did some filming as a rehearsal for the LEL. It works pretty well as a subject because a lot of it is photogenic. I'd be happy to help out at a future running of it
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: MAC on June 27, 2013, 12:26:51 am
It's Andy Corless who's to be thanked for putting the Pendle 600 on. I literally just turned up on the day and did some filming as a rehearsal for the LEL. It works pretty well as a subject because a lot of it is photogenic. I'd be happy to help out at a future running of it
It was the filming I was mainly thinking of. The controls would be something extra if Andy Corless wanted any help.

I think I saw you briefly at the Lantern o'er Lune cafe on the GC 200/3C600 (I was doing the GC200). If you want some extra footage on northern events in the future i'd be happy to help if work, family and audax commitments allow  ;)
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Post by: simonp on June 27, 2013, 10:17:24 pm
It was 13th January. The usual thing happened, we were sat at home, in the middle of winter, perusing the Audax UK calendar, and I had got to the 600s. Obviously, we would enter the Bryan Chapman on the tandem, but I wanted to ride a couple of other 600s to make a Hyper Randonneur series. Now, it was 2010 the last time I did anything like this (2011 was going to be, but Bryan Chapman on fixed caused an injury which prevented that). I thus had only one attempt at the K&SW, and I wanted to have another go and be a bit faster (possibly trying on fixed). My other (than the Bryan Chapman) regular 600k - The Border Raid - is no longer running, so I had to look elsewhere, and I’d heard lots about the Pendle 600 being a challenge. Well, I entered it.

Things have gone a bit wrong since then. We’ve had to DNS the Gospel Pass 150, and The Dean, due to the cold spring. We almost froze to death on the Cheltenham Flyer 200k; we managed Yr Elenydd on the tandem, but only with 15 minutes in hand, then I rode a hilly DIY 200k on fixed in April, and got the same injury as in 2011, but on the opposite risk. I had to stop riding fixed, do some rehab, and managed to be ready for the Brevet Cymru on the tandem - but we only managed 200k of that due to Feline’s knee. I did manage to ride the Bryan Chapman, riding on my Madone as an experiment for this ride, which went well, though the lack of miles told a bit as I kept bonking after going to hard early on. Then, a few days before the K&SW, I caught a bad cold, so was out of that. Meanwhile, I had been working long hours, and this continued, with a 24h stint awake helping at the National 400 last weekend, and hardly any miles in the last month, it wasn’t until Monday that I committed to riding this, and booked accommodation (camping).

I was by then back to commuting, having almost recovered from the lurgy, though still with a productive cough. I needed to get some early nights, but it wasn’t to be. Plus, I played 5-a-side on Thursday for extra tiredness. I didn’t finish my gpx file until midnight on Thursday night, and then started removing the aero clip-ons, and finally got all the audax set-up changes done to the bike. Meanwhile, I’d had an offer from Reg T of a lift up, and I could use Mike’s rooms at the Travelodge, which made life a lot easier than camping.

So it was with a poor week’s sleep that I arrived at the start hut for this one. Andy commented that he hadn’t seen me for a while. It’s true, I’ve been too busy to do all but the minimum SR series (and PBP and an arrow) in the last couple of years. I would have felt much happier about starting this ride if I’d not been ill and missed quite a lot of riding. But I was there, and I was going to give it my best shot.

As soon as we got rolling, my legs felt heavy. A tail wind blew us along the A59, but I felt the pace wasn’t quite enough, so I went off the front of the main bunch. This did not last long; my front race blade must have got a knock in the car, and was rubbing. I looked down at it, and also noticed my EDelux had come loose. This is what happens when you fit it at 1am. So, I pulled over into a side turning and watched the group sail past me as I fiddled. I gave chase, but they turned off and were out of sight, some way ahead. I decided I wanted to catch them, but when I saw a rider ahead, he was on his own, and it took me a while to catch him. It turned out he too had a problem, and had not simply been dropped, so we eventually did catch the group.

Once we got into the big climbs, I settled into riding with DrMekon, enjoying the views, and comparing notes on our respective new commutes, both rather hillier than Cambridge; after a hairy descent into Pately Bridge, we arrived at the 1st control, a petrol station, together. I had another minor mechanical, my speedo sensor’s rubber bands had snapped, so that needed fixing. DrMekon waited for me, and we set off, heading into the notionally toughest section of the ride. But initially it was like the Phoney War. I’d been confused about the route, and thought we went up Rosedale Bank, so was waiting for it. But when we got to an Abbey, it wasn’t Rosedale Abbey, and we went up Wass Bank, and then when we got to Rosedale, we went down. There was a sign asking us to please dismount. Of course we did not. This started a series of steep, sharp climbs, up to 1:3, that seemed to go on for ages. The average speed ticked steadily down. It ticked down on the descents as well as the climbs, due to the steepness requiring careful descending. At one point, I saw the sea, and thought it must end soon. But we were not going to escape that easily. Eventually, though, we did arrive at Robin Hood’s Bay, and thanks to the tail wind, about 4h in hand despite the steep climbing.

It was beautiful sunshine here, and we set off as a group of 3, Reg T joining us. I soon realised I was struggling to hold their pace, but they waited for me repeatedly despite my insistence that they should push on. I thought about turning into a side road and hiding until they gave up waiting for me. I was feeling a bit sick, struggling to digest lunch at the same time as fight the headwind and climb the hills. Towards the end of the stage, though, I had recovered somewhat, and was able to do more of my share as we arrived at Stokesley. This was another petrol station control. I opted for light food here, trying to keep my stomach on side. A can of Irn Bru, a milkshake, and a Magnum. By the time we got going again, Hill Billy and Marcus had appeared. Marcus went straight past and presumably went looking for something more substantial in town.

Once we’d had enough of getting cold outside a petrol station, we set off again, now on a flat route which just had the wind to contend with. We took reasonably equal turns on the front, though I think DrMekon was working harder of the three when he was there. Eventually Reg said something about the pace, and we eased off a bit. If he hadn’t said something, I think I would have. When we arrived at Darlington we were presented with the expected road closure; this was quite a significant detour. There was a short debate about whether to try to find a shorter route around, but probably it would cost as much time finding an alternative as just to ride the official diversion. There would be a risk in trying to get through anyway that it was really impassable and a lot of time could be wasted. In the end the detour added between 5 and 10km, which is a fair bit if you are on the limit, but despite the difficulty of the ride, we did not expect to be right on the time limit.

Amazingly, despite the forecast, we had not yet had any rain of significance. Showers had passed us by, and one had threatened to make us wet. It started to look a bit more likely we would get wet on the way to Barnard Castle on the A67, and it got sufficient, and also colder, such that we ended up with jackets on. But even then, it was a trivial amount of rain, and we felt we had been very lucky. At the back of my mind, however, was the forecast of much heavier rain at night, and we were not flush with time. We’d started talking about the sleep stop and how long we could afford. 1h sleep seemed to be on the cards, which is much less than I manage on most 600s.

I was starting to feel I needed something a bit more substantial than co-op or petrol station food, so we found a fish and chip shop in the town (we found two, but the first was closed, and had Damon’s rucksack which he had forgotten). Damon reappeared shortly after we started eating our chip butties, so we got some updates from him on other riders’ progress, and he got some footage of us talking about how hard it all was. We left around 8pm, I think, and Marcus appeared at about the same time having controlled at the co-op. DrMekon and Reg chased him down, but I was suffering slightly again with the pace after eating, so I "let them go" as they say. Now we headed into the North Pennines, a beautiful area of rolling hills and moorland. After a while, I found Reg at the roadside making some adjustments, so we played yo-yo for a while over the tops. I told him there was a nasty climb out of Stanhope. This was familiar to me, as I’ve done the Sustrans C2C route a couple of times. As we crossed the moor at the top, we spotted lights ahead, and it was DrMekon and Marcus. It seemed Marcus was having an attack of the dozies so they’d slowed down. DrMekon switched allegiance when we came past, and came with me - Reg and Marcus fell behind. I think it was then Reg had one of his punctures.

By now, everything seemed to be taking a very long time. A feature of this ride seemed to be that when you thought you might be now descending towards the control, another hill would offer itself to you. It was getting a bit old. Plus, a kamikaze sheep tried to get me when I was doing 30-40mph downhill. Good brakes and grippy tyres are a bonus. Also, there was a rabbit which tried similar. We arrived in Hexham very ready for pizza; the guy in the shop looked at me as if I was mad when I walked in. They couldn’t give us a proper receipt so while we waited for food, we got ATM receipts across the road. Back in the pizza place, a bizarre incident occurred where a drunk - seemingly underage - teenager tried to ask us first of all where the best places to drink in Hexham were (I think he’d already found them, to be honest) and also where all the fit birds were. If he found them, I predict failure, on account of his being barely able to stand up or string a coherent sentence together. And the fact he looked about 15.

Marcus joined us for this stage, Reg having been and gone. I was dropped as per. But then Marcus seemingly started with the dozies again, so it was DrMekon and I. He too was struggling by now, and the weather was taking a turn for the worse, with the rain starting then getting steadily heavier. There were 3 large climbs to deal with, the biggest and last being Hartside at 1900 feet. But first we had to get there, and a stop was made by a street lamp in the middle of nowhere for consumption of rations, and stimulants. DrMekon was my supplier, as I was out of caffeinated gels, he offered me a pro plus. I looked at it suspiciously - not sure they should be red - but took it anyway. DrMekon was getting a bit ahead on the climbs, but didn’t leave me behind. We had a bit of a poor descent on loose chippings at one point. They were freshly laid, and very deep outside of car tracks; not ideal in the dark by any means. We got to Alston, and I was tempted to have a doze. The pro plus seemed ineffective. But, I did not want to get cold, so I followed DrMekon through the town and out again into the wilderness. A sign warned us about how dangerous Hartside could be. We didn’t take any notice. What were we going to do, where would we go if we didn’t make it to the sleep stop?

As we climbed, things got worse. The rain became heavier still. Then, at about 400m altitude, I noticed visibility getting poor, and I realised we were heading into cloud. Great, we can’t see, are riding into a gale, and are being soaked. And I didn’t even have my rainlegs.  Yes, this was worse than the Border Raid 2008. I was very glad I’d worn my winter weight rain jacket. Without that, I’d have been stuffed. DrMekon had vanished into the mist, but when I reached the summit he was waiting for me. I don’t know if he had found shelter behind the cafe, I hope so. What then followed was an atrocious descent, visibility was about 30 feet, and even with great lights, descending speed was very slow, the average for the whole descent was only 30kph and the initial part was done at 20-25kph due to the poor conditions. Of course now you are also getting very cold. It seemed to be taking ages to get to the sleep stop, but eventually - around 3.40am - we arrived.

Andy made me a ham sandwich while I removed various soaking items of clothing and put them on radiators around the hall. We discussed briefly how long to sleep, and agreed that an hour would do, which meant a 5am wake-up. I cunningly bagged the spot of floor next to the radiator in the sleep room. As there was just a carpet and no bedding, I was still cold. I got woken up at 5.15am by DrMekon, who had woken up naturally, the wake-up call not having come. I was not aware I’d only slept for an hour, and felt fine. Perhaps I should try shorter sleep stops on 600s in future. It took me ages to get ready, though. I had two helpings of shredded wheat with banana, prepared by the omnipresent Damon, who was also out on route filming at various times, and a strong coffee. I removed my knee 'warmers' which I’d slept in, and were still wet, and put them on the radiator. I also used the hand dryer in the loos to try to dry my legs/crotch area a bit. It was lovely putting on radiator warmed arm warmers, jacket, gloves etc. before going outside again. We set off at 6. It had just stopped raining.

The run to Keswick on the A66 was pretty miserable, the rain started again as we got higher up and continued unabated all the way along the road. DrMekon was after a coffee, but Keswick at 8am on a Sunday didn't seem to have many opportunities. If we'd been there later, there is a great vegetarian cafe in the centre that would have suited him perfectly. I think we might have been able to get a coffee at the campsite, but I don't think I made enough effort to communicate this, and we pushed on to Whinlatter Pass which was a pleasant change from the exposed, wet A66. Once we'd crossed, the rain seemed to have eased, and soon we turned south. We still had to go over Cold Fell, and got a view of the remaining Windscale tower at Sellafield, with scaffolding around the botched on filters suggesting that will be removed soon. We dropped down to Seascale, and the lead riders were just on the way out, and indicated there was a cafe. One said it was on the right, the other the left. I guess it is about perspective.

Not sure where it would be, we tried asking a local. "Oh, there are no cafes open on a Sunday here". We wondered if the other riders had hallucinated a cafe, or if the local was just ignorant. We went down the hill, under the bridge, and there it was on the left. It was the latter, then. The welcome there was really friendly, and we were well fed and had had a nice break when we left. And from now, for almost all the way back to the finish, we would have a tailwind!

On the approach to Hardknott, I decided I would not attempt to ride it. DrMekon gave it a go, and was very impressive, though I think he nearly doubled the horizontal distance with all that weaving. The descent was nasty as usual, and then the same story on Wrynose, and we were past that and had some less taxing hills to Ambleside and Windermere. In Windermere, we stopped for icecream and filling bottles; the icecream I had was double devon cream or something - very nice indeed. As usual here, the traffic was very heavy. Late afternoon on a Sunday is unlikely to be the best time to be here, as people are heading home. It was a relief when we got onto quieter roads again to take us to the A6 and Carnforth. The surface on the A6 itself was poor, and so was some of the driving, unfortunately.

At the control, which was a truck stop, we were allowed to bring our bikes indoors to keep them safe. I had a very nice steak and mushroom pie, with mashed potatoes, carrots, and gravy on top. Then I started to feel really dozy, and was resting my head on the table while DrMekon did whatever he was up to. Mostly, he was repeatedly forgetting to get a receipt. :facepalm: I wasn't the only one struggling.

It was now that he had and admission: the previous night, my proplus was actually Ibuprofen. I avoid it because I get excess stomach acid and reflux a lot of the time, but it hadn't apparently caused a problem. but did explain why it didn't wake me up at all! So, this time, I had a proper one.

We knew the final stage was hilly - about 1000m in 55km from the profile - so we pushed hard out of Lancaster and kept track of our speed. The Trough of Bowland was beautiful, and the forest reminded me of the Forest of Dean. The pace we were doing uphill was below target, and then we caught up and overtook it downhill. Eventually we got to the "can finish at walking pace" point, and it was possible to relax about the time. We rolled in about 8.20pm, absolutely done in.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: fungus on June 27, 2013, 10:44:56 pm
Fantastic stuff SimonP!  This is a must do ride for 2015  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Phil W on June 27, 2013, 11:06:10 pm
Great write up Simon.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on June 28, 2013, 06:52:03 am
Brilliant ride report - jogging many memories. Apologies again for the ibuprofen. After we'd stopped then, we passed a pub that was still open. I can't tell you how much I wanted to pull in and warm up then!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 28, 2013, 07:06:28 am
Good work Simonp! Great write up of a great weekend.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 28, 2013, 10:10:39 am
Thanks, Simon.  You evoke the toughness of this ride, which tested all the riders pretty much to destruction, it seems!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 28, 2013, 10:26:55 am
This ride was Legend
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 28, 2013, 10:27:17 am
Wait for it
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on June 28, 2013, 10:28:15 am
Ary.

Legendary.

Great write up Simon.  The quality of ride reports for some of the more iconic events this year has been great.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Pete Mas on June 28, 2013, 10:37:15 am
Just catching up with this thread.

A great achievement and well done again to all the finishers :thumbsup:

I don't regret missing this, by going away on a coach tour in Tuscany with my wife. Surprisingly, my legs are very stiff and tired after that, as, after all the hilly audaxes I rode this year, I'm no longer used to walking!

I think this ride would be a tough ask for a slower rider like myself.

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on July 01, 2013, 12:26:32 am
I've now compressed the video to around five and a half minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kikCCWIq9Lw
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on July 02, 2013, 12:18:21 pm
I just let the computer do its own thing with this picture.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7396/9189660219_35e5295b8a_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on July 02, 2013, 12:21:50 pm
It was hard work pushing the bike up there! :)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on July 02, 2013, 12:29:57 pm
It was hard work parking the motorbike at the top of the pass, walking down to find a vantage point for the fixed camera, waiting for you and Dr Mekon, and walking back up again in all the clothes needed to be able to hang around for half an hour on a windy mountain pass.
My sciatica is still raging.
It does show the Roman Fort well, behind your head is a walled enclosure. Heavily reconstructed of course, but interesting nontheless.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: fungus on July 02, 2013, 12:31:57 pm
I just let the computer do its own thing with this picture.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7396/9189660219_35e5295b8a_z.jpg)

Which orrible hill is that  ???

Great photo btw!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on July 02, 2013, 12:35:31 pm
That is Hardknott Pass, just as it gets steep again. I'd ridden up the less steep section you see in the background, but I had no intention of doing the steep sections.

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on July 02, 2013, 12:47:36 pm
"Arrivee" cover material that is.

Or "Strider"  ;)

(I suspect you could replace Simon's outline with most of the riders on the event - including me - on that bad mutha of a climb.  Watching DrMekon gracefully weave up it in the video was one of those "oh, so that's how it's done" moments).
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: caerau on July 02, 2013, 01:26:27 pm
Given the amount of walking I've done on climbs during my brief audaxing career I'm feeling rather better about it now  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on July 02, 2013, 01:43:21 pm
Hmm. On gears, in my Audax career, I have walked, that I can recall, when riding gears:

Buttertubs, a short section of, in 2006.
Devil's Staircase, from some time after the first hairpin, 2008 (I got up in 2010).
Bryan Champan YHA climb on the return, in 2010 (I was bonking).
Hardknott Pass, Wrynose Pass, Pendle 600, 2013.

On fixed, I've had to walk:

Devil's Staircase & 2 following Climbs, and the climb heading for Cymystwyth on the Elenith, 2011.
YHA climb x2 on the Bryan Chapman in 2011.
Climb to Hinton Blewitt in 2011 on the Tasty Cheddar.
Various hills on a DIY 200k to the Dorset Coast in April.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on July 02, 2013, 02:50:24 pm
Good man for 'fessing, Simon but it doesn't diminish your achievements, I think.  I'm guessing you got caught out on Buttertubs because i've managed it from both sides (just, from the north!) and you're much younger better than I!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on July 02, 2013, 03:43:52 pm
I walked on Buttertubs because I had stopped briefly, decided not to walk, tried to set off, and fell over.

This was on a ride where I reached Tan Hill with 30m in hand at 100k, Leyburn also with 30m in hand, and back at finish with 2h in hand. Headwind out, tail home, and started late so no-on to ride with in the wind.

I would expect to do better now. Buttertubs is probably still a hard climb but it's not as hard as various climbs I've got up since.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on July 02, 2013, 04:09:21 pm
This is the original file of that photo.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3759/9193762370_a62d6ee5d6_z.jpg)


I took a shot over to Wrynose Pass from the top of Hardknott, Simon P and Dr Mekon are visible in it, as the crop from it shows.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5336/9190948855_59700c214b_z.jpg)


(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3733/9193746498_cba0fdaa36_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: caerau on July 02, 2013, 04:11:12 pm
Well I think I'm still a bit too much of a novice to get up the really nasty climbs.  I think I need to build some stamina and (more importantly) lose quite a bit more weight before I can really take on the likes of Devil's Staircase and realistically succeed.
I did a training ride at the weekend for my upcoming 600 which took in some of the nastier climbs in my locality - The Tumble, Penheol Ely road in Pontypridd and one I don't know the name of north of Nelson.  I managed the unnamed one and was very pleased to do so as my Garmin was reading 18% for extended periods up some pretty vicious climbing.  Aside from that I walked parts of the other two.  Penheol Ely road in Ponty gets to 27% at one point and rather irritatingly I had a transit van up my arse just as I hit that section so I got off partly because I didn't want the hassle and probably also partly due to the climb itself.  The Tumble was nastier than I was expecting and I'd already climbed about 7000ft when I hit it so was pretty knackered.  I shall have to try that when I'm fresher as I think I could do it albeit with difficulty.  I have noticed that it's at the 7000 ft point where I start to get too knackered to do much more climbing - this has happened on several rides now  - I must be careful it doesn't become a mental block.

My n+1 bike is going to have a triple chainring I think.  I can climb on a compact but my weight is never going to be anything but a handicap for climbing so this is the way to go I think.  I have no intention of ever trying anything like that on a fixed gear!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on July 02, 2013, 04:41:36 pm
16% is about my limit on fixed.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Pip on July 02, 2013, 08:54:41 pm
Wow! Great ride reports, brilliant film. Had to hide behind the cushions
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on July 23, 2013, 09:19:36 pm
Loved the Pendle so much, I'm spending a week in the Pennines revisiting some of the route via various perms and day trips (drove to Trough of Bowland for a picnic by a babbling brook, a read of a book and a sneaky snooze to recover between two 200s).  Will need to write an Arrivee article on it.

It really is rather grimpy up North.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on July 23, 2013, 09:45:59 pm
I'm a little jealous!

There are some parts I would very much like to revisit, particularly the Trough of Bowland.

I won't be hurrying back to the Ripon->Robin Hood's Bay section though!  I've just about got over the worst of the nightmares.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on July 23, 2013, 09:54:28 pm
Oh. I'm tackling bits of that stage on Thursday on the North Yorks Moors 200.  It gives the option of sidestepping Rosedale Bank though, which I may take advantage of for the sake of my brakes.  I've done that perm before and remember it as being a good day out enlivened by hills...

The headwind hasn't abated by the way.  Simply changed direction.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Hillbilly on July 23, 2013, 10:00:39 pm
I'm a little jealous!

PS: back at you.  I have LEL envy going on.  I'll be thinking of it more and more come the weekend.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on July 24, 2013, 11:09:55 am
Loved the Pendle so much, I'm spending a week in the Pennines revisiting some of the route via various perms and day trips (drove to Trough of Bowland for a picnic by a babbling brook, a read of a book and a sneaky snooze to recover between two 200s).  Will need to write an Arrivee article on it.

It really is rather grimpy up North.

That's why it's difficult to organise many Audaxes in the North West. The riding is on the doorstep and free. People also don't immediately think about Lancashire as a starting point. It would be a lot easier if the rail fares between London and Preston weren't extortionate. Andy does a sterling job.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on February 03, 2014, 04:51:52 pm
The next edition of this event has been set for the weekend of 13-14 June 2015. The event has been categorized as a BRM and should act as a PBP qualifier, subject to confirmation of ACP's qualification criteria.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on February 03, 2014, 04:57:37 pm
The next edition of this event has been set for the weekend of 13-14 June 2015. The event has been categorized as a BRM and should act as a PBP qualifier, subject to confirmation of ACP's qualification criteria.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600

Ooooohhhhh.  Brilliant.

I'm not sure my balls are big enough to use that as my PBP qualifier - but I do fancy another trip around this magnificent ride (one of the best, if not the best, 600 around). 

The bit to Robin Hood's Bay was still, by far, one of the most intense bits of cycling I have ever done. 

I'd recommend this ride to anyone - but prepare well for it.  If you can ride the Pendle, then PBP will be a walk in the park.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on February 03, 2014, 06:10:46 pm
The event now appears in the AUK calendar. You can enter at anytime.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on February 03, 2014, 06:10:57 pm
Excellent! 
Will be back to do this again

*adds to my rides list calendar*
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on February 04, 2014, 08:35:57 am
Just entered ;D

Now there's commitment!

I've now got 16 months to sort my pass out
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on February 04, 2014, 11:10:21 am
Ahhh, Pendlegeddon :demon:
I'm also in
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: caerau on February 04, 2014, 11:41:13 am
I wish I could see myself being able to do this but just the thought of trying to cycle up some of the climbs on this ride makes me  :jurek:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on February 04, 2014, 12:50:19 pm
Ahhh, Pendlegeddon :demon:
I'm also in

Just 18 months to get your fighting skills honed ready for Hexham and the pizza place.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on February 04, 2014, 01:10:12 pm
Ok, entering early is one thing, but for 2015?!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on February 04, 2014, 01:17:17 pm
Ahhh, Pendlegeddon :demon:
I'm also in

Just 18 months to get your fighting skills honed ready for Hexham and the pizza place.

Does the Swan with Two Necks go there? If so, I hope Simon will be providing directions to "the fit birds".
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on February 04, 2014, 01:26:56 pm
Ahhh, Pendlegeddon :demon:
I'm also in

Just 18 months to get your fighting skills honed ready for Hexham and the pizza place.

Does the Swan with Two Necks go there? If so, I hope Simon will be providing directions to "the fit birds".

You have to be very drunk to think some middle aged guy sat eating a pizza in lycra on a Saturday evening is going to know the answer to this question.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on February 04, 2014, 02:41:28 pm
AC Hackney's finest, and youngest, Jordan 'The Kid' Carroll was there last time to funnel those pissed-up Jordie (*sorry Peter, Geordie) females over to our table.  However, we were all way too scared to talk to any of them for fear of having our head-torches stuffed up our arses by one of their male counterparts (or them come to think of it?)

Ahh, but I do seem to remember one of them taking a fancy to Yossarian whilst he was standing sentry for our bikes by the cash-point! :-*
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on February 04, 2014, 03:30:51 pm
Ahhh, Pendlegeddon :demon:
I'm also in

Just 18 months to get your fighting skills honed ready for Hexham and the pizza place.

Does the Swan with Two Necks go there? If so, I hope Simon will be providing directions to "the fit birds".

You have to be very drunk to think some middle aged guy sat eating a pizza in lycra on a Saturday evening is going to know the answer to this question.

That kid was so pissed. He must have asked me about 5 times if I knew where the fit birds were.

He could not be convinced that I was not the one to ask.

He did look about 12.

Happy days.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on February 04, 2014, 03:33:02 pm
AC Hackney's finest, and youngest, Jordan 'The Kid' Carroll was there last time to funnel those pissed-up Jordie (*sorry Peter, Geordie) females over to our table.  However, we were all way too scared to talk to any of them for fear of having our head-torches stuffed up our arses by one of their male counterparts (or them come to think of it?)

Ahh, but I do seem to remember one of them taking a fancy to Yossarian whilst he was standing sentry for our bikes by the cash-point! :-*

The kid and yossarian - posh totty for the ladies of Hexham.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mattc on February 04, 2014, 04:33:45 pm
Ok, entering early is one thing, but for 2015?!
... and the thread title is 3 years out of date.

Dear Norris,
Is this a record?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: fboab on February 04, 2014, 08:11:42 pm
The kid and yossarian - posh totty for the ladies of Hexham.
Hexham is the posh end of Northumberland. I'm not even joking.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on February 04, 2014, 08:33:19 pm
This was the first and so far the only Audax event I have just failed at. I feel duty bound to commit to it, but not just now. I think I need lower gears. Campag now make a 12-30 cassette, with a 34 tooth ring should give me a good low gear.

BB
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on February 04, 2014, 08:34:47 pm
The kid and yossarian - posh totty for the ladies of Hexham.
Hexham is the posh end of Northumberland. I'm not even joking.

It's true. I've been hoyed out of a Hexham pub.

Next time, I hear Andy's routing it through Cramlington and Prudhoe.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: fboab on February 04, 2014, 08:40:25 pm
Next time, I hear Andy's routing it through Cramlington and Prudhoe.
Quality.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: DrMekon on February 04, 2014, 09:59:11 pm
It felt like being in the Fens, but with Jordietm accents.

Pizza properly hit the spot.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on February 04, 2014, 11:54:16 pm
It felt like being in the Fens, but with Jordietm accents.

Which bit of the fecking fens? The bit of the fens with the bastard great big dirty hills that I don't know about?  ;D

I'm still withholding my entry until next year though. This will not be part of the PBP qualifying SR on the tandem, that is 100% for sure.  This will be just for fun!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on February 05, 2014, 09:55:51 am
Did anybody remember that bloke who sprawled into the pizza joint from the kebab shop over the road? He was covered in (someone elses) blood and had a nasty looky gash on the side of his neck.  Yossarian had previosuly saw him fighting in th eother take-away, which is why he specifically chose our pizza place.  Next time I'm going to take Ride Hard with me.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on March 14, 2015, 03:05:53 pm
There's now a website for this event:  www.pendle600audax.com. Website is primarily informative for those involved (ie - riding/organising), and is best viewed through chrome, opera or mobile.

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on March 14, 2015, 06:12:30 pm
Good stuff Andy! 

It's a pencil mark in the diary currently. I'd love to give it another bash as it is a great event. See how the legs are as the season goes on and see how busy life gets with all the other stuff going on.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ivan on March 30, 2015, 10:11:12 pm
Right, cheap London-Leeds train fares booked and the Burnley Travelodge for Friday/Sunday night - getting a bit excited thinking about this one! My plan is to ride along the Calder Valley from Sowerby Bridge to Burnley on Friday afternoon for an easy sightseeing prologue.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on March 31, 2015, 11:05:31 pm
I'd take the train and save yourself for the baddest ball-bustin' bollickin ride this side of Nagasaki
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: thesloth on April 01, 2015, 10:24:35 am
I have to admit I have serious fear about this one.
I'll be investing in a 32T cassette.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ivan on April 01, 2015, 10:50:41 am
I'll be getting the geared bike out of the loft and dusting it off next month for this. Should probably revert the 36T inner front to 34T - will see how I get on with the Turf'n'Surf 400.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on April 01, 2015, 05:36:46 pm
I'd take the train and save yourself for the baddest ball-bustin' bollickin ride this side of Nagasaki

Just don't get on the train to Blackpool this time hey?

Still considering another ride around this fabulous event - the mega-project I am involved in currently is slipping somewhat (not my bit though!) and my time for cycling in summer is rapidly not looking there. 

Just need to get qualified for PBP and then can start to enjoy myself with things like this and some of the other plans pre and post PBP.  One thing's for sure though, I, too, would have to dust off the geared bike if I'm going to ride this. 
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on April 01, 2015, 08:51:37 pm
It was The Kids' fault.  He gave me a sip of his ginger beer and everything went hazy.

This ride is one of the best in the calendar in my opinion and it would be a shame to miss it, or for it to be ruined by gears for that matter.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: SR Steve on April 01, 2015, 09:12:12 pm
I won't be sure which bike I'll be using for this one until I see the weather forecast a few days before. Certainly won't be riding fixed though.

If the weather looks OK, I'll travel light and ride my Roubaix with a 50/34 compact and an 11-28 cassette. I have a spare rear derailleur that can take a 32 sprocket, so might invest in an 11-32 cassette if I bottle it. Depends how the BCM and K&SW go.

If it's bad weather and I need to carry more stuff I'll ride my Dawes Audax, also with a 50/34 compact and an 11-32 cassette.

Both bikes have the same lighting system with Shimano DH-3N80 hub dynamo, B&M Luxos front light and B&M Seculite rear light plus LED battery back ups.

I have ridden many of the roads before so appreciate the enormous extent of the challenge to ride them all in one weekend. Should be fun!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on April 01, 2015, 09:23:31 pm
It was The Kids' fault.  He gave me a sip of his ginger beer and everything went hazy.

You should be ashamed of yourself - blaming a poor defenseless child of all things!

No I really do hope to ride this again as it is a magnificent brute of a ride with a real journey feel to it. 
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on April 26, 2015, 07:05:57 pm
Just to let those that have entered know that route-sheets will be sent out around the third week of May.

The A67 main road normally used between Darlington and Barnard Castle is apparently still blocked so I'm looking at diverting the route using the B6279 via Staindrop, replacing Barnard Castle control with a feed station control instead (probably Eggleston).

This won't require any increase in entry fees due to a surplus from this weekend's Heartbeat 400.

There's about 50 entries so far. The village hall/car-park at Pendleton isn't huge so I'll allow about another 10 before closing entries.

Any help/volunteers at Eggleston would be appreciated. All reasonable expenses paid.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on April 26, 2015, 09:16:39 pm
You can get through the A67 closure at Carlbury on a bike.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on May 10, 2015, 05:46:13 pm
Route-sheet now complete and will be sent out towards the end of this week. I've about 55 entries so far. I'll allow another 5 before closing entries.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on May 17, 2015, 03:34:22 pm
Hi All

Not long to go so starting to think about prep for my first attempt at the Pendle 600. Looking forward to it. I'm looking for a reliable GPX file of the route. Having compared this one on ridewithgps website (http://ridewithgps.com/routes/6412980) it certainly seems to match the route issued. What's everyone thoughts? Does anyone have an alternative GPX that they will be using?
Thanks
Stu
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on May 18, 2015, 11:47:06 am
There are 3 minor changes to the route this year, all between Langwathby and Pendleton. The integrity of the route doesn't change in any way, but the new route shaves about 3 km off (cutting it from 619 km to 616 km).

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on May 19, 2015, 11:54:13 am
Thanks Andy. See you soon!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on May 19, 2015, 01:21:03 pm
Is there a chippy at Robin Hoods Bay ?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on May 19, 2015, 01:39:01 pm
Is there a chippy at Robin Hoods Bay ?

If you Google it, I am sure there is.

However, the control chosen is, thankfully, at the close to the top of the VERY, VERY steep hill down into the bay itself - https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.432729,-0.534109,3a,75y,126.71h,74.17t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_E25qUyGKTm1Y6ZXskEnUw!2e0!6m1!1e1 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@54.432729,-0.534109,3a,75y,126.71h,74.17t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s_E25qUyGKTm1Y6ZXskEnUw!2e0!6m1!1e1)

There are places you don't want to have to ride back up after lunch - the hill into Robin Hood's Bay is probably on that list!

Save your appetite for Hexham pizza and fighting!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on May 19, 2015, 01:49:47 pm
Need to research locations of fit girls in Hexham for this year.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on May 19, 2015, 01:53:34 pm
More fighting.......I had that at the Statoil Servo in Charlottenberg, Mid Nowhere, Sweden two weekends ago.

I thought this was supposed to be a genteel pootle around The Dales.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on May 19, 2015, 02:15:57 pm
Dare I attempt this on fixed?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on May 19, 2015, 03:24:28 pm
I am not a big fan of café stops, but I quite liked that one (the nominated control).  After flogging up and down those N Yorks valleys 'across the grain' it was a sensible move to sit down and have a civilised break in the café.  Wolfing some take-away in the street can be good but not in this case IMO
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on May 19, 2015, 04:49:17 pm
It's a great little spot and perfect for contemplating whether you will survive another 400+km of that!  Luckily it isn't quite so stern for the trip westwards after the 20/25/20/30/25/20/30% pummeling you've just been dished up.  That section is some of the tougher riding I have ever done for sure. 
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ivan on May 19, 2015, 05:24:18 pm
Dare I attempt this on fixed?

I can't get that same thought out of my head - will make my final decision after WCW when I see what time buffer I managed to get then.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on May 21, 2015, 01:30:06 pm
You'll all filling me with confidence chaps!

re riding it on a fixed.... I'm riding it on an ElliptiGO so to even things up I think the rest of field should be made to ride it on fixed  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on May 21, 2015, 05:05:19 pm
You'll all filling me with confidence chaps!

re riding it on a fixed.... I'm riding it on an ElliptiGO so to even things up I think the rest of field should be made to ride it on fixed  :thumbsup:

I've never seen a fixed ElliptiGo. The cross-trainer at the gym is fixed, so I suppose it makes some sense. Will you be carrying a tent and a sleeping bag?
I can imagine a cross between an ElliptiGo and a snowmobile, so this ride could be a step on the way to a trip to the South Pole on the ElliptiSno.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on May 23, 2015, 03:25:44 pm
I've plotted the route from this year's route sheet - helped by my track from the 1st 2012 edition of this ride, but I've incorporated the changes for this year.

Strava links for each stage:

Stage 1: https://www.strava.com/routes/2403651
Stage 2: https://www.strava.com/routes/2403653
Stage 3: https://www.strava.com/routes/2403656
Stage 4: https://www.strava.com/routes/2403657
Stage 5: https://www.strava.com/routes/2403660
Stage 6: https://www.strava.com/routes/2403663
Stage 7: https://www.strava.com/routes/2412296
Stage 8: https://www.strava.com/routes/2412371
Stage 9: https://www.strava.com/routes/2412527

You can download gpx from there (premium Strava members only I think?)

or I've put them on my google drive:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bzf_MqHl-vizfjk1a08zRzhVTHZmY2k5cUcxWEZtZEF2akpXNGxNdzJ0ZTktMU43cjFHaHM&usp=sharing

Usual caveats apply, use with your own risk, don't blame me etc, etc - but this is the route I'll be following!

See you in 3 weeks!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ivan on May 24, 2015, 11:31:21 am
You can download gpx from there (premium Strava members only I think?)

Thanks a lot for doing this - note that anyone can download planned routes from Strava, it's only other people's 'activities' you need to go premium to be able to export.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on May 24, 2015, 11:56:13 am
Thanks PeeJay!!! I downloaded the whole track from elsewhere but because it's so long it wouldn't load the entire route onto my etrex30. You've just saved me hours of frustration on Garmin Basecamp!! Thank you thank you.

Is anyone else riding WCW as their qualifier and treating Pendle as 'just a bit of fun' !?  :facepalm:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on May 24, 2015, 12:02:06 pm


 Will you be carrying a tent and a sleeping bag?
I can imagine a cross between an ElliptiGo and a snowmobile, so this ride could be a step on the way to a trip to the South Pole on the ElliptiSno.

The ElliptiGO weighs 42lbs on its own so I think I'll leave the tent at home. Hoping the constantly climbing will keep me warm :-)  the video from 2013 illustrated the biggest danger/challenge - keeping warm on the long descents. So will be taking loads of layers, full wind and waterproofs (top and bottoms), snowboard gloves (which are brilliant) and double/triple socks!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on May 25, 2015, 05:18:23 pm
Hi Andy. Sorry if this has already been asked or covered elsewhere. Is there sleeping facilities in the Hall the night before ride and/or after? Can't find mention of it which suggests there isn't and thought I'd ask. Thanks
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 02, 2015, 10:44:51 am
I suppose I ought to start thinking about this one and not PBP.

My email has been borked for the last few months, so I was wondering whether anyone has a copy of the route sheet and any other necessary information that I could have a copy of ?

The last email I got was in August 2014, maybe there haven't been any more....who knows ?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 02, 2015, 10:54:03 am
There have been more.

HTH.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on June 02, 2015, 11:57:57 am
"I suppose I ought to start thinking about this one and not PBP.

My email has been borked for the last few months, so I was wondering whether anyone has a copy of the route sheet and any other necessary information that I could have a copy of ?

The last email I got was in August 2014, maybe there haven't been any more....who knows ?

Thanks".


If you entered online you would/should have received your event info' and route-sheet by e-mail a few weeks ago.  The event info' is much the same as that on the event website, www.pendle600audax.com. If you PM or e-mail me your address I'll either e-mail you a copy or send you one through the post. Please use your correct details. I don't see an "Aunt Maud" on the start list!

There's a couple of last minute updates to the route-sheet. The route is exactly the same, just a couple of updates to the instructions between Seascale and the finish. So any GPS track's should be fine.

Entries still open due to high notification of DNS.

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 02, 2015, 12:01:41 pm
Done......thanks.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on June 02, 2015, 08:49:58 pm
So from the radio silence I presume Andy that the hall can't accommodate us overnight before the ride?

If so I had better find somewhere to sleep in that case...

Cheers
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 02, 2015, 09:34:36 pm
I'm looking at Burnley Travelodge.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on June 03, 2015, 07:05:29 am
I booked the Burnley TL last night. £36 per night so didn't want to hang around and watch it go up. So booked the Friday and Sunday night. Great relief actually as I can now get there early and get some good amount of sleep pre event.

Anyone else riding this and just finished WCW? I'm finding it hard to comprehend TWICE the amount of climbing. Anyone who rode this in previous years did you have time to sleep at Langworthy?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 03, 2015, 07:11:24 am
Anyone who rode this in previous years did you have time to sleep at Langworthy?

In the words of Paul Danials, "Not a lot", but yes, some sleep.

But some riders will have got a pretty decent night's sleep and some got a 10 minute cat nap. Identical to any other ride really. Depends where you are in terms of speed, what your luck is like and all the stuff out of your control.

Rather jealous of those riding this great ride. Tough but rewarding.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: daveco on June 04, 2015, 08:55:51 pm
I'm in for The Pendle, having completed the WCW (and The Flatlands). I see The Pendle as the greatest challenge I have attempted and hope the WCW will have been good preparation. Staying at Earby YHA £17.00 per night member rate. I was close to the time limit on WCW so intend very brief controls.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 04, 2015, 11:28:12 pm
I booked the Burnley TL last night. £36 per night so didn't want to hang around and watch it go up. So booked the Friday and Sunday night. Great relief actually as I can now get there early and get some good amount of sleep pre event.

Anyone else riding this and just finished WCW? I'm finding it hard to comprehend TWICE the amount of climbing. Anyone who rode this in previous years did you have time to sleep at Langworthy?

I have to ask, given your profile pic - are you riding on an Elliptigo?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hillbilly on June 05, 2015, 07:32:40 am
Based on 2013. This event is quite selecting. It tends to be people confident of their ability to climb well who enter.  This means you have time to sleep at Langsworthy if you would expect to have it on another 600.  But probably less, depending on the weather (we had a westerly, which made the leg out to the coast very fast, but a slower and longer trip to Langsworthy).

Agree with Marcus, a great event.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on June 05, 2015, 09:46:30 pm


I have to ask, given your profile pic - are you riding on an Elliptigo?

Yep that's the plan Deano. I rather hope that now PBP qualification is out the way that I can really relax into this ride and enjoy it. The suffering will no doubt push me to my limits within the cut off but I like a challenge and this is certainly that! Just analysing the profiles of each stage at the moment. Stage 4 looks like heaven, but stage 6 actually takes you there, and 8 and 9 into the depths of hell. Bring it on!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 05, 2015, 10:10:31 pm
It's 'Langwathby'.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 08, 2015, 10:24:17 am
<tumbleweed> ZZZZZZZZZ! Quiet thread, is this one.</tumbleweed>

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b557/Bugloss/tumbleweed_zps3gg8gdul.jpg)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: postie on June 08, 2015, 10:52:40 am
Well not long now, for me I am looking forward to this and with w.c.w done to get me in the French ride, just riding this for fun. ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hillbilly on June 08, 2015, 11:04:58 am
Audax fun is not ordinary fun.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 08, 2015, 11:19:01 am


I have to ask, given your profile pic - are you riding on an Elliptigo?

Yep that's the plan Deano. I rather hope that now PBP qualification is out the way that I can really relax into this ride and enjoy it. The suffering will no doubt push me to my limits within the cut off but I like a challenge and this is certainly that! Just analysing the profiles of each stage at the moment. Stage 4 looks like heaven, but stage 6 actually takes you there, and 8 and 9 into the depths of hell. Bring it on!

I live in Darlington, and I've never heard the A67 described that way ;)

I wouldn't underestimate it, it's usually straight into the wind, and there's nothing like shelter between Stokesley and Darlo. It's generally a relief to get into the hills and get out of the wind a bit.

Best of luck! I'd wave you all by, but I'll be at a gig that night. My clubmate Dave Atkinson's riding as a qualifier, so wish him luck if you see him. He's ridden it before, he'll be alright.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on June 08, 2015, 02:16:57 pm
Just analysing the profiles of each stage at the moment. Stage 4 looks like heaven, but stage 6 actually takes you there, and 8 and 9 into the depths of hell. Bring it on!

Don't underestimate stage 2 either.   1700m of climbing in those 90ish km & many of the climbs are very steep - the local authority must have got a discount bulk buying all those 30% gradient signs.   
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 08, 2015, 02:40:03 pm
I never expected that. Pure murder that stage. I had nothing in my legs when we started back into the wind.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 08, 2015, 02:56:46 pm
Oh dear !....it looks like the 6A on steroids.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 08, 2015, 03:22:23 pm
'bout the same amount as last time.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 08, 2015, 03:38:22 pm
It strikes me as similar to a car rally. A number of testing special stages, separated by reasonably fast transit sections.
It pretty much covers every type of upland terrain in Northern England, crossing three National Parks and three Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty. It wouldn't take much of a diversion to take in the Northumberland National Park, including Hadrian's Wall. You could take in the Arnside-Silverdale Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty by riding through Yealand Conyers and Warton.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 08, 2015, 03:55:38 pm
Just analysing the profiles of each stage at the moment. Stage 4 looks like heaven, but stage 6 actually takes you there, and 8 and 9 into the depths of hell. Bring it on!

Don't underestimate stage 2 either.   1700m of climbing in those 90ish km & many of the climbs are very steep - the local authority must have got a discount bulk buying all those 30% gradient signs.

Stage 2 is just bonkers. There can not be many places on earth with such relentless, viciously steep climbing.  Good job it is nice and early and there still something in the legs! The only stage where I have ever been thankful to see a 20% sign as that meant a little bit of respite!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on June 08, 2015, 04:27:39 pm
This pretty much sums that section up...

(http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g237/Pee_Jay_1/Mobile%20Uploads/535710_3380495645726_1669491447_2075586_397104460_n_zpsiracjdot.jpg)
Gives with one hand and takes away with the other.

Fortunately in that case the steeper one was downhill.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hillbilly on June 08, 2015, 07:11:33 pm
A stretch of road with a lot of skidmarks.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ivan on June 08, 2015, 08:32:36 pm
A stretch of road with a lot of skidmarks.

I'll probably be sh*tting myself.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 08, 2015, 10:45:44 pm
The turtles head'll probably be appearing in my pants too
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 09, 2015, 06:49:49 am
Hopefully I won't be squeezing the jam out of my doughnut.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 09, 2015, 08:58:06 am
Abandon hope all ye who enter Pendlegeddon - you'll be touching cloth before Stage-2
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hillbilly on June 09, 2015, 03:19:11 pm
Picking pendleberries from your shorts.

Defn. Pendleberries (med.): Type 1 stools on the (AC) Bristol Scale. Typically passed due to over exertion
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Kev Dennett on June 09, 2015, 05:44:14 pm
In the pursuit of lightness for the climbs I've just printed my route sheet 2 pages/page and saved 3 sheets of A4!  ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 09, 2015, 08:01:29 pm
In the pursuit of lightness for the climbs I've just printed my route sheet 2 pages/page and saved 3 sheets of A4!  ;D

But you could've utilized those extra 3 sheets of A4 as spares after your usual paper has been used up when removing your Pendleberries?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 09, 2015, 08:25:34 pm
Like the way this thread has made it fair and square in the gutter. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 09, 2015, 08:26:35 pm
This is yacf. The gutter is up there.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: SR Steve on June 09, 2015, 08:49:01 pm
Don't worry, it looks like the rain will wash away the Pendleberries on Saturday.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 09, 2015, 09:03:00 pm
Don't worry, it looks like the rain will wash away the Pendleberries on Saturday.

That's a huge comfort.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Kev Dennett on June 09, 2015, 09:14:49 pm
In the pursuit of lightness for the climbs I've just printed my route sheet 2 pages/page and saved 3 sheets of A4!  ;D

But you could've utilized those extra 3 sheets of A4 as spares after your usual paper has been used up when removing your Pendleberries?

Ah, for that I shall be using my redundant arm warmers from St1.

Redundant as the weather will be, of course, glorious ;)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 09, 2015, 09:39:20 pm
Don't worry, it looks like the rain will wash away the Pendleberries on Saturday.

Mmmmm, soggy Pendleberries
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on June 10, 2015, 09:14:02 am
I think I understand the signs better now,  "1 in 3" refers to the probably of experiencing pendleberries on that bit of  road.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Brakeless on June 10, 2015, 02:10:47 pm
Saturday looking wet all day  :(
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 10, 2015, 04:32:09 pm
I think I understand the signs better now,  "1 in 3" refers to the probably of experiencing pendleberries on that bit of  road.

And those signs in the distance indicate the types of vehicle required in case of over exertion; the bus to transport the victims who have packed and the lorry to remove the Pendleberries in case of an RTA.  NB the number on the side of the lorry denotes how many tonnes of Pendleberries can be safely removed.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 10, 2015, 05:11:43 pm
What's an RTA ?

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 10, 2015, 05:45:04 pm
Road Traffic Accident
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 10, 2015, 07:35:29 pm
Ah!

I thought it may have meant something else when Pendleberries were involved.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on June 11, 2015, 07:12:37 am
Can't decide whether to drop my chain ring down from a 54 to 53 on the ElliptiGO. I don't think it going to make that much difference if I did and would prefer the extra speed on flatter (are there any!?)/sections.

Colleague informs me that the climb in or out of Robin Hood Bay is the steepest public road in UK!! :-0
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 11, 2015, 08:07:59 am
Colleague informs me that the climb in or out of Robin Hood Bay is the steepest public road in UK!! :-0

Good job you don't go up or down it really!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 11, 2015, 09:04:41 am
And for those who can use such a thing. Here are PeeJay's tracks all stitched into one.

http://ridewithgps.com/routes/8463350

Thanks Peejay.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hillbilly on June 11, 2015, 10:55:00 am
Colleague informs me that the climb in or out of Robin Hood Bay is the steepest public road in UK!! :-0

Good job you don't go up or down it really!

Remember.  Audax routes are advisory, and intrepid randonneurs can plot their own way to such roads  8)

Although there will be plenty of lumps to entertain the Pendlistas, without the need to drop in an F-Bomb.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on June 11, 2015, 01:24:23 pm
Colleague informs me that the climb in or out of Robin Hood Bay is the steepest public road in UK!! :-0

Good job you don't go up or down it really!

The control is at the Cafe at the top fortunately, so unless you fancy dipping your front wheel in the water in a C2C stylee, which seemed like a good idea last time until I actually got there and saw how steep the road was and I had already had my fill of steep roads by then.


Can't decide whether to drop my chain ring down from a 54 to 53 on the ElliptiGO. I don't think it going to make that much difference if I did and would prefer the extra speed on flatter (are there any!?)/sections.

Less than 2% difference, so neither here nor there either way I would have thought.  How do eliptigo's work gearing wise?  Single chainring and wide range cassette?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 12, 2015, 09:09:30 am
Please could anyone direct me to a GPX for this ride?  I've tried loading th eones on this thread but get stuck with Facebook passowrds and Starva accounts - none of which I use
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: PeeJay on June 12, 2015, 10:03:43 am
I put them on my Google drive

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0Bzf_MqHl-vizfjk1a08zRzhVTHZmY2k5cUcxWEZtZEF2akpXNGxNdzJ0ZTktMU43cjFHaHM&usp=sharing

That any good?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 12, 2015, 10:20:43 am
Thanks very much PeeJay  :D- How do I load them?  I tried to drag the files onto the desk top but they don't appear?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: mcshroom on June 12, 2015, 12:17:59 pm
Colleague informs me that the climb in or out of Robin Hood Bay is the steepest public road in UK!! :-0

Good job you don't go up or down it really!

The control is at the Cafe at the top fortunately, so unless you fancy dipping your front wheel in the water in a C2C stylee, which seemed like a good idea last time until I actually got there and saw how steep the road was and I had already had my fill of steep roads by then.


Can't decide whether to drop my chain ring down from a 54 to 53 on the ElliptiGO. I don't think it going to make that much difference if I did and would prefer the extra speed on flatter (are there any!?)/sections.

Less than 2% difference, so neither here nor there either way I would have thought.  How do eliptigo's work gearing wise?  Single chainring and wide range cassette?

The one I saw on the May as Well Solstice seemed to have one chainring and a hub gear
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 12, 2015, 12:26:27 pm
11 speed Alfine, I believe.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: john jackson on June 12, 2015, 01:07:39 pm
Thanks very much PeeJay  :D- How do I load them?  I tried to drag the files onto the desk top but they don't appear?
Switch to list view Icon top right with horizontal lines. Double click the link then click download. It should be in your downloads folder
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 12, 2015, 04:46:04 pm
Please could anyone direct me to a GPX for this ride?  I've tried loading th eones on this thread but get stuck with Facebook passowrds and Starva accounts - none of which I use

If you want the whole track that I posted, just click on the Export tab top right and you'll get what you want. No need to sign in.

As far as I know this GPX track works on a Garmin 800 if you just want to follow the purple line. It may not give you turn by turn or any other stuff, it may not work on any other device either and you use it at your own risk etc, etc.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on June 12, 2015, 05:22:02 pm
Peejay - yes an alfina 11 speed hub. I upgraded my GO from the 8 speed. To be honest I think the 8 speed is a much better built hub. The 11 can be quite temperamental and skip around the gears if not aligned exactly right because they are so close together.

IM AT THE BURNEY TRAVEL LODGE RIGHT NOW. 5:30 PM. ANYONE ELSE HERE??? thinking of popping across to the Grill bar Kenanks for FOOD!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on June 12, 2015, 05:23:23 pm
Major disappointment at not being able to ride the hill in RHB!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on June 12, 2015, 07:24:20 pm
Went for a Chinese takeaway in the end!! Was this my first mistake in the Pendle600!? Only time will tell... OMG wheres the loo roll....
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 12, 2015, 08:32:56 pm
Went for a Chinese takeaway in the end!! Was this my first mistake in the Pendle600!? Only time will tell... OMG wheres the loo roll....

Hopefully it's in your Carradice (or your excercise bike equivalent  ;) in readiness for the onset of a severe attack of Pendleberries
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on June 13, 2015, 02:51:21 pm
37 riders started at 06:00 am this morning.

The weather forecast was for very poor weather. It was drizzling when most set-off but fined up soon afterwards. If the rain holds off, which it has done so far, the riders will be riding in near perfect conditions. No wind and not too hot/cold. I'll be catching up with them all at Langwathby tonight.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 13, 2015, 04:34:58 pm
I filmed the start of the Pendle 600, I'll catch up with them later to see now they are doing.
https://youtu.be/yE-2jW87iq0
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hillbilly on June 15, 2015, 01:19:40 pm
Any survivors?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on June 15, 2015, 01:23:48 pm
I know of several finishers, despite one of them getting badgered.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 15, 2015, 03:36:09 pm
I finished with 20 mins to spare, followed by the Hackney bunch.

Had a horrid splendid time with 13 hours of rain......I think, although my memory is somewhat vague, so don't rely on that (It felt like 13 hours anyway).

Ended up sleeping on the floor in the heated upstairs stock room of Hexam Pizza House and Home for The Unwashed for 2 hours, along with some other vagrant types.

Nice ride, with some great scenery.

Legs don't work.

Edit: Highlights

Got buzzed by a Hercules coming over Wrynose Pass and watched car comedy, as a loon tried to ascend Hardknott Pass in his ageing Hymer Mobil,  accompanied by much squealing of tyres, blocked traffic and disapproving stares from pensioners on tour.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: MikeH on June 15, 2015, 03:38:02 pm
I made it.  That one is the toughest on the current Audax calender.

What I do know is that at about 7:50pm last night 10 riders had made it back, 7 had abandoned, leaving 20 out on the road.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on June 15, 2015, 03:40:35 pm
Sounds like an epic. Well done to all.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: MikeH on June 15, 2015, 04:01:12 pm
I really want to hear whether the Eliptigo made it back in time.  I do know he made it to the sleep stop with a bit of time in hand (but not enough to enable a sleep).  That is a serious achievement.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 15, 2015, 04:09:41 pm
The Elliptigo was out of time at Carnforth about 35 miles from the end, where he abandoned. He had a lot of trouble with his V brakes, which hindered him on the descents. He described coming down from Hartside, putting on the anchors, and not much happening. He had one spare set, which he put on the front. It's a ride that doesn't pay back much downhill in exchange for the uphill effort, especially in the wet.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 15, 2015, 06:07:26 pm
Massive respect to all finishers and a fair old chunk of respect to anyone that even turns up at the start of this ride.

Certainly the hardest traditional 600 I've ever done and I doubt there are many tougher weekends out on a bike, especially with weather issues to contend with as well.

Well done.

Who got badgered?
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Brakeless on June 15, 2015, 06:10:58 pm
I finished just after 7 last night. Only one word to sum up the weekend - hard!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Revellinho on June 15, 2015, 06:12:45 pm
Yes, well done to all who even started, let alone finished.  The only harder thing I've ever tried is the 10A.  I almost felt guilty, trundling round the Bowland Forest 100k, knowing that the field would be heading through that area in the final 2 hours of an epic ride.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: The Bonk on June 15, 2015, 06:31:04 pm
I finished just after 7 last night. Only one word to sum up the weekend - hard!

I'd say there are two words.

I finished with 45 minutes to spare. Slept in the Hotel Del Kebab Shop too. Saw a lone cow walking over the A590 and I killed a rabbit on the way to Hexam.

Gutted my longest and hardest ride is in bits on the etrex 30 and I am too stupid and tired to be able to put it together and have a look at what horror I went through over the weekend.
But other than that, Andy, thanks. It was tremendous.

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ivan on June 15, 2015, 07:01:52 pm
I finished with 20 mins to spare, followed by the Hackney bunch

Yes, I got to claim the coveted Lanterne Rouge, finishing around 2150, but we were the only 3 on fixed I believe. Something like 38 started, 27 finished, with pretty much one going at every control & a couple out of time.

Nursing a few blisters on the hands from gripping the hoods so tightly for 40 hours - that probably says it all.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Brakeless on June 15, 2015, 07:06:18 pm
I finished with 20 mins to spare, followed by the Hackney bunch

Yes, I got to claim the coveted Lanterne Rouge, finishing around 2150, but we were the only 3 on fixed I believe. Something like 38 started, 27 finished, with pretty much one going at every control & a couple out of time.

Nursing a few blisters on the hands from gripping the hoods so tightly for 40 hours - that probably says it all.

Massive respect to getting round on fixed  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: postie on June 15, 2015, 07:36:26 pm
What a ride,most rides have a couple hard stages this has 9!!!!! The kebab shop in hexham really save my mate and me, making us tea even for free, they don't sell hot drinks.
I have never been so cold in all my life. Got 2 hours sleep and dry kit at the night stop making Sunday seem like a new day

Thanks Andy for a amazing ride.

9pm last night sat outside my tent with a beer and bag of chips, the way to end a amazing 2 days cycling.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 15, 2015, 09:05:55 pm
A video using some of the material I shot of the Pendle 600.

https://youtu.be/zlKcMG52iC4
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Kev Dennett on June 15, 2015, 09:10:12 pm
I echo Postie's comments, what an amazing weekend.

The route, accompanied by some very testing night section weather, posed cycling challenge after challenge which left me with a huge sense of achievement when we returned to the final control at Pendleton. And all to a backdrop of some of the most stunning scenery the UK has to offer. The bar has certainly been lifted for me in terms of knowing how deep I can dig when the situation requires it.

Thanks very much Andy for an event that will live long in the memory  :)

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: aidan.f on June 15, 2015, 09:58:05 pm
As  everyone said, a hard  ride, for  me added interest  was the badger interaction just before Hexham. The badger was fine  but  I hit the deck. Feeling  a bit sore an bruised I went to A&E in Hexham knowing it was just nearby. A helpful member of staff  put my  bike in a secure area and I got into triage in minutes. Was already feeling  better and the leaking blood was starting to slow.  Pleasant nurse gave me some painkillers, and I then asked if  she could dress the gravel rash. 'not possible until seen by a doctor' and left me in triage. So I took off  my wet kit, hung it up to dry had a  half hour lie down scrubbed off the dirt with some towels, considered self applying  some dressings that were handy  but could not find any large enough so discharged myself.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: GraemeMcC on June 15, 2015, 10:55:52 pm
Good video clips, ESL.

I don't know how you could capture this on film though, but for me, one of the more surreal moments of this ride was the stage from Barnard Castle to Hexham, with heavy hilly fog and rain north of Stanhope. Add darkness: the light loss/spread due to the moisture meant that road visibility was next to nil. Thank God for snow poles! This was another of these, "got to get out of this, alive" moments. (Takes me back to the "Not So Delightful Dales" hail storm then blizzard - how do you get such climatic episodes, Andy?)

But well done to all those who, like me, snucked in with moments to spare. This was the first time in ~100 events that I've ever been wary of being close to being "out of time". That said, the 2 hours kip and the hot shower in Langwathyby were truly welcome.

And, despite running out of time at Carnforth, I'm well in awe of our southern Elliptigo rider: to get through the N Yorks Moors, haul over Hartside, deal with the heat on Cold Fell and the headwind on Hardknott, all stood up, is a major effort. Chapeau my man...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 16, 2015, 12:17:26 am
Catseyes were invented to cope with moorland fog, so snow poles perform a dual function.
I thought the Elliptigo might have problems with the potholes on the Lakes passes, but I realise that braking is a problem, the little wheels must heat up faster, and burn out the pads in such extreme conditions. Disc brakes might help I suppose, but that would mean the wheels taking more of a hammering from the potholes.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 16, 2015, 12:36:11 am
ESL, thanks for the video.  That was an exceptional display on the tandem by Cathy and Ashley.  Did I see a quick glimpse of Shaun Townley, too?  Impressed, as ever, by Graeme McCulloch, who had done the Pair of Kirtons 600 only the week before.  He's going to breeze PBP.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 16, 2015, 12:59:53 am
C&A had signposted their intentions to try to get up Hardknott at the Langwathby control, and Ashley was clearly pleased to see me at the cattle grid. I'd already been over Hardknott and Wrynose once on the BMW, so I was reasonably confident. The main problem is finding a stopping place which will support a heavy motorbike on a sidestand, but not obstruct traffic. The last thing I want to do is to is to impede a rider.

The C&A sequence is assembled from my shots from four positions on the pass, two cameras operated by Dave Robinson, and three shots I took from next to the Three Shires Stone at the top of Wrynose. That's what made me think about how the story you get differs from what we saw on the day.

Cathy and Ashley look good enough on the bike to justify some planning to capture poetry in motion, but Hardknott is an odd place, tourists stop to take photos in the passing places, and it's difficult to get up it in one if you don't know how people behave.

I'm particularly pleased with the airbed inflation sequence. I've got a new wide angle camera with does good sound, and time lapses, which can convey these important duties succinctly.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 16, 2015, 06:56:27 am
That was interesting coming over to Hexam, it felt very remote. I managed to suss out a few good camping spots and a superb Audax hotel for next time.....It'll be nice weather next time, won't it Andy?

Good to see that so many finished. I'm particularly impressed with the tandem duo styling up Hardknott and the hard nuts who rode through the night on bikes with no gears.

Next time I'll try not to be half an hour late for the start, cheers for a great event.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 16, 2015, 09:57:19 am
@ ESL.  Yes, appreciated the air-bed sequence, having taken slightly longer to inflate them for Pair of Kirtons!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Deano on June 16, 2015, 09:31:01 pm
As  everyone said, a hard  ride, for  me added interest  was the badger interaction just before Hexham. The badger was fine  but  I hit the deck. Feeling  a bit sore an bruised I went to A&E in Hexham knowing it was just nearby. A helpful member of staff  put my  bike in a secure area and I got into triage in minutes. Was already feeling  better and the leaking blood was starting to slow.  Pleasant nurse gave me some painkillers, and I then asked if  she could dress the gravel rash. 'not possible until seen by a doctor' and left me in triage. So I took off  my wet kit, hung it up to dry had a  half hour lie down scrubbed off the dirt with some towels, considered self applying  some dressings that were handy  but could not find any large enough so discharged myself.

Yes, but how's the badger bike?

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: john jackson on June 16, 2015, 10:18:46 pm
Results:- http://www.aukweb.net/results/detail/this/listevent/?Ride=15-312 (http://www.aukweb.net/results/detail/this/listevent/?Ride=15-312)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 17, 2015, 12:52:19 am
That's Jonah with consecutive 600s, too.  Hard men - but nice with it!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: 321up on June 17, 2015, 08:17:37 am
We found the perfect isotonic rehydration...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-5EIkPUzEclw/VYEUduxn2NI/AAAAAAAAPm8/ip1fUywcHp8/s640/20150616_135606.jpg)

Great ride Andy, this years ultimate test of man, woman and machine.  Well done everyone.  So what will be the next challange?

Awesome effort by the Elliptigo rider, as others have said small wheels and rim brakes on such steep descents probably resulted in overheating. 

Excellent film Damon, our families really appreciate these.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 17, 2015, 08:36:43 am
Don't worry, it looks like the rain will wash away the Pendleberries on Saturday.

Mmmmm, soggy Pendleberries

[Edit]  Mmmmm, liquidized and diluted Pendleberries
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Peter on June 17, 2015, 09:49:51 am
We all ride for our own reasons.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 17, 2015, 10:00:54 am
Some dirtbag left a large Pendleberry swirling around the plug hole in the shower at Langwathby.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 17, 2015, 10:17:48 am
Surely that was a Malteser?  At least I hope it was!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Chris S on June 17, 2015, 10:18:25 am
Surely that was a Malteser?  At least I hope it was!

Why, did you eat it? :)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 17, 2015, 10:31:18 am
Well...........it looked like it had been chopped in half, so you never know.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on June 17, 2015, 12:23:27 pm
Thanks to all those that entered. Another epic weekend's cycling through the Pennine chain. Better start with the stats:

67 entered
37 started
29 finished


This was the third edition of the Pendle 600, and the last to start and finish in the village of Pendleton as the event has now outgrown that venue.

The riders set off in the rain although the weather wasn't as bad overall considering what was forecast. Several of them were riding fixed, whilst one attempted the route on an elliptigo.

Stage 1 took the riders through the Ribble Valley and on into the Yorkshire Dales where the riders encountered the first serious climbs of the route between Grassington and Ripon.

Stage 2 was remembered for the 25% and 33% handlebar bending grades of the north Yorkshire Moors national park, and most riders made it to Robin Hood's Bay overlooking the east coast with plenty of time in hand.

Stages 3 and 4 headed more or less directly west before stage 5 catapulted the riders into the wild and exposed moorland of the northern Pennines, with several roads climbing above 500 metres altitude.

Stage 6 was a night-ride along the A686 for most riders, with the climb of Hartside Pass - at 580 metres the highest point of the route -  to climb over on the way to the night control at Langwathby, where there was a "cauldron" of food available, and riders also had the opportunity to have a shower and grab a few hours sleep before tackling the Lake District.

Stage 7 had the climbs of Whinlatter Pass and Cold Fell to contend with on the way to the west coast. Stage 8 was a "Hardknott  Life" for most riders, whilst the last stage passed through the Trough of Bowland but also included the climbs of Jubilee and Cow Ark.

Well done to all the riders who finished and as ever, commisserations to the few who didn't make it. It's better to try and fail than to not try at all. There was just the one reportable accident, and the rider concerned went on to finish the event.

A few accolades from me (that I can remember off the top of my head).

Justin Jones has ridden all 3 events (I think on fixed)! I referred to this as the "triple crown".

Cathy Brown became the first female to complete the event.

At least 4 riders used this as their 600 km qualifier for this year's PBP (there might be more).

Stuart Blofeld attempted the event on an elliptigo but unfortunately ran out of time at 561 km, having conquered the climbs of the Hardkn*tt & Wryn*se Passes. An achievement in itself!

Graeme McCulloch completed back to back 600s (he'd ridden the "Pair of Kirton's" the weekend before).

Glenn Utteridge, a non-member of AUK, completed this event as his first Audax, raising money for charity.

Thanks again to all those that entered, and to Damon Peacock for helping out at the Langwathby control and for filming some of the event. His video's are here:

https://youtu.be/yE-2jW87iq0
https://youtu.be/zlKcMG52iC4

The event will run again.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Audax Club Hackney on June 17, 2015, 03:58:47 pm
Thanks for a top event Andy and Damon
This was a right royal ball-buster but we kinda new it was going to be
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: How Far on June 17, 2015, 04:44:38 pm
Thanks for a great event Andy, this was my second Audax my first being the Mosstrooper 300 a few weeks earlier. I am now bitten by the Audax bug so hoping to get a few more done. Maybe not as tough as this one :)

Thanks Rich...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 17, 2015, 08:15:24 pm
I've modified the film to fill in some of the gaps. Comments welcome.

https://youtu.be/9ZLMsx_Xs-8
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on June 17, 2015, 09:22:20 pm
Ace film ESL  :thumbsup:

I still can't get over Cathy & Dave's monster achievement
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on June 18, 2015, 09:43:42 am
A couple of faults rectified in the latest edit of the film. There's a qualifier film in all the material I've shot since the Mere 200 in January. The Mytholmroyd 600s at the weekend will resolve a lot of the unanswered questions.

https://youtu.be/lDYz1Uv4pmM
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Ultradiscostu on June 23, 2015, 07:45:18 pm
I've written a short report of my Pendle600 (565) experience on my blog (www.ultradiscostu.co.uk)

I knew it was going to be tough and didn't go into this ride thinking any different, and I'm glad that I've found something that was a true test for me and the ElliptiGO! I will be back next year to finish :-) in hindsight 6hrs:20 stoppage time was just too much time not moving forward especially on the ElliptiGO.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on February 22, 2016, 04:32:35 pm
Next edition has been set for 01 - 02 July 2017, with a new start from Clitheroe. Event website can be found at: www.pendle600audax.com. Event now appears in the AUK calendar.

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: TigaSefi on February 22, 2016, 04:54:18 pm
Far too scary for me. Hardknott Pass 500km INTO the journey!  ;D
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: simonp on February 22, 2016, 05:04:18 pm
You'll be ready to take a stroll by then.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bianchi Boy on February 22, 2016, 06:45:39 pm
Since I failed at the first one of these I suppose I must at some point try again. See how I feel after the 1000 Andy is running this summer first.  :o
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on February 22, 2016, 07:11:12 pm
Next edition has been set for 01 - 02 July 2017, with a new start from Clitheroe. Event website can be found at: www.pendle600audax.com. Event now appears in the AUK calendar.

Andy Corless

I am busy that weekend.  I am sure I am.  I will find something less painful to do instead, maybe polishing my testicles with an angle grinder or something?

No, in all seriousness, for anyone considering LEL that year - get through the Pendle and LEL will be a breeze!  Even if you're not considering LEL, the Pendle is one mighty fine 600 that has some magnificent views.

http://www.marcusjb.com/blog/2013/06/26/pendle-600-a-scenic-tour-of-the-northern-half-of-england
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on February 22, 2016, 08:07:02 pm
Ahhh, Pendlegeddon :demon:
I'm also in
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on August 11, 2016, 05:33:10 pm
The event has now outgrown its traditional Pendleton start. The original start venue I had planned for the next running of this event is no longer available. However (there's always a "however"), I'm pleased to advise that I've been able to secure the village hall in the nearby village of West Bradford for the staging of next year's event, set for the weekend of 01-02 July 2017. West Bradford village hall is a large hall just outside the village, about 2-miles north of Clitheroe. There's ample parking space for cars in the adjacent car-park.

The few that have already entered have of course been informed of the change. The event website has been updated and the AUK calendar webpage should be updated shortly.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Anthony on August 11, 2016, 07:02:58 pm
Mega — my other half's parents live in West Bradford so no excuses for me  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Redlight on August 12, 2016, 10:08:53 pm
Mega — my other half's parents live in West Bradford so no excuses for me  :thumbsup:

Are they taking bookings?   ;)
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on August 12, 2016, 10:26:27 pm
FWIW: The event website, www.pendle600audax.com gives details of nearby hotels.

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hippy on May 21, 2019, 01:15:03 pm
Does the 2019 edition start in Clitheroe or the West Bradford Village Hall?

Trying to plan logistics and now I'm a bit confused about start location.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on May 21, 2019, 01:23:18 pm
It's starting and finishing in Clitheroe. Event details being emailed out tomorrow.

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hippy on May 21, 2019, 01:25:19 pm
Cheers Andy!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on May 21, 2019, 02:04:33 pm
Websites have both been updated with revised start/finish venue.

http://burnleyccevents.com/pendle-600-2/

Andy Corless

Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Jonah on May 27, 2019, 10:55:14 pm
Pendlegeddon  :demon:
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hippy on May 31, 2019, 06:24:01 pm
This is based off someone else's route on RWGPS and adjusted for Clitheroe. If you notice anything wrong with it, let me know and I can fix it up:
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30139830
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on June 01, 2019, 05:58:47 pm
That track looks pretty accurate to me. Everyone who's entered should have by now received their event information and route sheet. If not let me know ASAP.

Entries still open as there's a reduced entry this year.

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Gadget on June 04, 2019, 07:30:09 am
Hi Hippy
I downloaded your GPX onto my garmin etrex 30x but it only shows the first 470km. I assume because the file is too large. I have no idea how to split the track into sections. Can anyone help?
Gadget
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: JonB on June 04, 2019, 08:21:15 am
Gadget do you have basecamp - you can use the divide function to split it or the filter function to reduce the track size.  The other alternative is to run it through Phil W's track reduction programme which will also split the track if you want to, details here https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=97952.0
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Gadget on June 04, 2019, 09:14:18 am
Thanks JonB

I don't have basecamp. However, Andy P has reduced the waypoints to 9999 for me... looks ok on my garmin...
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hippy on June 04, 2019, 09:35:54 am
Hi Hippy
I downloaded your GPX onto my garmin etrex 30x but it only shows the first 470km. I assume because the file is too large. I have no idea how to split the track into sections. Can anyone help?
Gadget

You can use an online tool or Garmin software to reduce the point count (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=80018.0).
I normally split my routes into 100-200k segments or maybe stages, given there's controls for audax so I will probably do that within RWGPS.
I'll post here when I've chopped it up.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hippy on June 04, 2019, 09:59:42 am
Pendle 600 Stages:

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30174984
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30174989
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30174998
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30175002
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30175008
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30175011
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30175012
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30175026
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30175030
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/30175033

Check 'em, before you wreck 'em!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Gadget on June 04, 2019, 10:20:40 am
that's fantastic. Nice one!
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: robhyde on June 04, 2019, 12:01:12 pm
I'm enjoying refreshing Epic Ride Weather for this one. Weather looks 'ok' this far out, though seems to change by the hour
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hippy on June 07, 2019, 09:35:18 am
I'm enjoying refreshing Epic Ride Weather for this one. Weather looks 'ok' this far out, though seems to change by the hour

Really? Clitheroe looks to be raining all night and morning and then there's the rest of it.. looks like rain most of first day and then more later.

https://www.weatherbagel.com/f/caf28530-d017-49eb-ad66-30867d112b9b

I've booked a hotel but the Abort button is looking really tempting right now.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: hippy on June 07, 2019, 10:42:19 am
Does anyone want a hotel room for tonight? It's less the 2mi from the start.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on June 08, 2019, 03:21:14 pm
Despite the treacherous weather conditions, 26 riders started the 5th (and possibly the last) edition of the Pendle 600.

I'll be catching up with them all at Langwathby later on tonight.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: S2L on June 08, 2019, 04:25:35 pm
I did look at the radar this morning and at 6 AM the epicentre of the low was bang on over Burnley. Since then, it looks like it hasn't stopped raining... Will be interesting to see how many battle it through all the way.
Tomorrow looks better if it helps
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: S2L on June 08, 2019, 04:56:50 pm
As an aside, if you are planning to shelve the event, it would be nice to have a humane BP permanent version with 10 km/h minimum, or a SR, which is the same thing, but with more rules.
Failing that, I might have a go at the route as 3 x 200 km BR one day
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on June 09, 2019, 04:11:37 pm
At least 12 out of the 26 that started have dropped out, leaving 14 still going. Still awaiting the first riders back into Clitheroe.

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: GPS on June 09, 2019, 09:52:04 pm
Despite the treacherous weather conditions, 26 riders started the 5th (and possibly the last) edition of the Pendle 600.

I'll be catching up with them all at Langwathby later on tonight.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Pendle 600


Please don't make it the last !

How many finishers were there this year ??
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Andy Corless on June 09, 2019, 09:56:43 pm
12 riders have finished the 2019 edition of the Pendle 600!

Andy Corless
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: marcusjb on June 09, 2019, 11:56:57 pm
Sounds like some congratulations are appropriate for those that finished.  Been a little further south in the Peak District all weekend and there is no way I would have fancied riding a bike in the weather we had, let alone over the Pendle terrain (I still get flashbacks to Conditions on hartside in 2013 when I rode the event).

Well done all and I hope those that couldn’t  make it all the way managed to find sensible exit strategies.
Title: Re: Pendle 600 (2/6/2012) - Anyone know any details?
Post by: Bendy Bianchi on June 12, 2019, 06:46:35 pm
Well that was a really epic ride. The weather was "inclement" from the 6am start on Saturday right through to around 4am on Sunday, with torrential rain and a block headwind for 300km right across from Robin Hoods Bay to Seascale.  On the top of the moors it dropped down to 4 degrees overnight, so some of the descents in particular were cold, despite wearing full winter kit. Many of the steep descents were very very dicey in the wet, with the tyres on the very limit of adhesion - more than once I was searching for a place to aim for for a soft landing as the tyres were locking up.

However, come Sunday morning, the sun came out and the day got nicer and nicer as it went on, and was in full June glory just in time for a very sweaty climb up Hardknott & Wrynose.

A realy epic event and not as hard as the 10,000m of climb suggests, as much (but not all!) of that climbing is nice steady gradients.

thanks Andy!