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Title: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on October 30, 2012, 10:03:03 am
On Saturday my brother in law and nephew, who hold season tickets for a certain Manchester-based club, went to watch the home match against Swansea. They got their money's worth, for a given value of money's worth, as it turned out to be the longest match in the history of the premiership. Otherwise, apparently, it was pretty dire. City won 1-0.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on February 20, 2013, 06:45:19 pm
I was puzzled. I can hear the git-noises of football fans on the way to a match, but the BBC seemed not to have any reference to Saarfend playing at home this evening.

Then, problem solved. It would appear to be a home match in the Johnstone's Paint Trophy against our esteemed friends from down the road, Leyton Orient. I had never heard of the the Johnstone’s Paint Trophy but it appears to be "open to the 48 teams from Leagues 1 and 2 of The Football League".

I shall wait until the match has started before delivering Phyllis's shopping.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on February 20, 2013, 09:34:58 pm
The git-noises are heading back to the station and a police siren has just hurtled past.

It would appear that Saarfend drew 2-2 on the night and won 3 - 2 on aggregate.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on February 24, 2013, 06:28:35 pm
What is a "Capital One Cup" anyway?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on February 24, 2013, 07:02:05 pm
Porn video starring Boris Johnson, for people with a very specific fetish.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: clarion on February 24, 2013, 08:15:01 pm
Suddenly, I feel very very :sick:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Pingu on February 24, 2013, 11:18:05 pm
Me too also  :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on February 24, 2013, 11:22:31 pm
Porn video starring Boris Johnson, for people with a very specific fetish.

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Bledlow on February 25, 2013, 11:04:08 pm
Porn video starring Boris Johnson, for people with a very specific fetish.
Kim, where the hell did you get that imagination from?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 25, 2013, 11:27:58 pm
Porn video starring Boris Johnson, for people with a very specific fetish.
I've only just realised quite how evil you are, Kim.  :demon:

By coincidence, today I saw a teenager in a "Boris" hoodie (royal blue with a white silhouette of the distinctive hair and face, and the name Boris underneath). Two doses of Boris in one day is too much!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on February 25, 2013, 11:56:34 pm
I've been here since 2009, and only *now* you realise I'm evil?   ::-)


Boris hoodies:

http://www.chargrilled.co.uk/t-shirts/Boris-Johnson-t-shirt.h

also http://www.cafepress.co.uk/+boris-johnson+sweatshirts-hoodies
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 26, 2013, 12:05:19 pm
It was one of the "chargrilled" design. You need to work a bit harder on the evil front to stand out, there's tough competition on here!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: clarion on February 26, 2013, 12:56:21 pm
Porn video starring Boris Johnson, for people with a very specific fetish.
Kim, where the hell did you get that imagination from?

And please return it, carefully disinfecting after removal.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on February 26, 2013, 01:41:55 pm
You need to work a bit harder on the evil front to stand out, there's tough competition on here!

True evil doesn't want to stand out...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on March 05, 2013, 09:10:49 pm
You can't put your foot up in Europe...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: CAMRAMan on March 05, 2013, 10:23:32 pm
You can't put your foot up in Europe...
Think on when you're up against Ghent*, my lad...

*or a well-known team in white...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on March 06, 2013, 09:07:03 am
Bugger, beaten to it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on March 20, 2013, 02:07:01 pm
A football match programme has 64 pages. At least, it does at AFC Wimbledon. I'd never have guessed it was anywhere near that long.

And there are genuine Banskys in Mexico, at a few rural football grounds, which he painted when he went out there in the early ~90s-ish with an amateur team from Bristol.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on March 22, 2013, 10:51:17 am
Porn video starring Boris Johnson, for people with a very specific fetish.

Snuff porn

I'm sure there would be a market
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 12, 2013, 09:39:02 am
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/apr/11/matt-le-tissier-guernsey

If they pay my fares and accommodation for a week, I'll come on as a substitute for 30 minutes or so.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on August 03, 2013, 02:39:45 pm
There are git noises coming from outside. This makes me think that the fupbol season has started and the Saarfend Untied are about to play a home match.

Edit: the opponents are Plymouth Argyll, whom I believe were supported by the late Michael Foot. Why does a team from the Devon/Cornish border adopt a name that makes it sound as though it comes from the Scottish highlands?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: SteveC on August 03, 2013, 05:07:52 pm
The club's website states:

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The motion to form a club was carried and the matter of the club name was discussed from which two suggestions came to the fore, ‘Pickwick’ and ‘Argyle’. Thankfully, those present, almost unanimously, decided the new club to be the ‘Argyle Football Club’ as the name was of “local application” whereas the other, coming from a Charles Dickens novel, was not.

By “local application”, this must mean Argyle Terrace, which was local to the prospective members. Though none are known to have lived in Argyle Terrace, attending was Charles Phillips, who was elected to the committee and became Argyle secretary for 1887-88, and he lived across the road at 7, Stafford Terrace. Another prominent Argyle Football member C. C. Boolds, whose residence had been used for a pre-Argyle formation meeting, had a Devonport born Uncle who, in the 1881 Census, lived in Argyle Street, Tynemouth, Northumberland. A lesser-known Argyle F.C. member in 1886 was a J. Reed who, a much later letter printed in the Western Morning News in 1937 claimed, was the originator of the name. This could be correct because at the time a builder named John Reed was living close by in Kirkby Place (1887) and Restormel Terrace (1889). Perhaps he built Argyle Terrace? Within six years of formation, nobody could remember the origin of the Argyle name because it was just plucked out of the air and chosen because it was suitably up-market for the club members social standing, as was middle-class Argyle Terrace; there was no deep reason. What is unusual today is that Plymouth Argyle held onto their original local amateur club name whilst most of today’s big town clubs have not. The fascination in the name is because of the geographically diverse juxtaposition of the two words ‘Plymouth’ and ‘Argyle’ and it seems to demand a specific explanation such as the ‘Argyll Regiment’ connection. From 1886 to 1903 when the name was just ‘Argyle’, there was no juxtaposition demanding explanation.

But seeing you don't like fupball, you probably don't care  ;)

MrsC lived in Plymouth during part of her childhood so has a bit of an interest...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on August 03, 2013, 06:33:14 pm
It was during a match with Argyle that Bristol Rovers fans first started singing Good Night, Irene, (changing Irene to Argyle for the occasion) which has stuck as their fan song.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on August 05, 2013, 05:26:43 pm
Plymouth Argyle 1900-1901 (http://www.greensonscreen.co.uk/sv-00-01pic.asp)

The two in civvies at either end of the back row are my avatar's nephews.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Clare on August 06, 2013, 06:41:20 pm
Edit: the opponents are Plymouth Argyll, whom I believe were supported by the late Michael Foot.

He wasn't just a supporter he was registered as a player on his 90th birthday. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/p/plymouth_argyle/3129167.stm)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on August 07, 2013, 08:34:00 pm
I've just discovered a new (to me) sport. Beach rugby.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on August 12, 2013, 12:17:16 pm
Is that a sport designed for ladies to ogle beefcake?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on August 14, 2013, 08:07:41 pm
7 minutes in, and Scotland aren't losing yet.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on August 15, 2013, 11:16:13 am
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/big-indifferent-land-3-small-inexplicably-angry-land-2-2-2013081578687
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on August 16, 2013, 01:08:06 pm
The Mash is on good form this week:

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/bartoli-retires-so-she-can-destroy-john-inverdale-2013081678724

;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on August 22, 2013, 11:32:42 am
Possibly England's most impressive sportsman: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23724904
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on August 22, 2013, 02:07:23 pm
Jen Ennis is 'opening' a new Adidas store in Leeds today, 3pm.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Biff on August 24, 2013, 03:32:35 pm
Possibly England's most impressive sportsman: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23724904

Good basis for a new 'Ripping Yarn'.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on August 29, 2013, 11:14:08 pm
British tennis player Dan Evans makes it to the third round of the US Open.

Never heard of him before, but good on him.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on September 05, 2013, 02:42:35 pm
Today is John Wisden's 187th birthday. For some reason Australians may have a superstitious fear of this.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on September 14, 2013, 04:43:31 pm
Last night's match was Southend United's 4th consecutive loss.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on September 27, 2013, 06:31:03 pm
bobb and I were up at the Commie today and Wednesday watching Edinburgh diving club's internal competition. Grace Reid is a member of that club - she came 6th at the last Commonwealth Games. I'll be surprised if she doesn't get a medal next year; she's outstanding. Some of the younger ones look very promising too.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on November 01, 2013, 06:33:09 pm
My Spanish is dodgy, but Cristiano Ronaldo is only 2 goals from breaking Ferenc Puskas' record for goals in La Liga.
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El portugués lleva 154 goles en 145 partidos; el húngaro los marcó en 180. En este curso de los 32 goles del Real Madrid, 15 son de Cristiano (el 47%).
So it's not only the Premier League that's dominated by foreign players!
http://www.dalealplay.com/informaciondecontenido.php?con=507030
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rafletcher on November 04, 2013, 11:57:19 am
My stepson completed his second Ironman on Saturday, at Panama City BEach, Florida.  In 11hrs, 16 mins and 15 secs.  An improvement of some 2 1/2hrs on his first attempt 3 years ago.  Major improvement was in cycling leg, average up from 15mph to 20mph.  And his run was around 10mins/mile instead of 12.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Ian H on November 04, 2013, 12:04:31 pm
Golf.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on January 07, 2014, 05:09:09 pm
Going to Old Trafford on Saturday. Good news-its free and corporate and food and drink will be taken on board.
Looking forward to Swansea doing a repeat performance .
Bad news -5 pm kick off means late journey home on overcrowded TPE train.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on January 14, 2014, 05:04:40 pm
Yay- just got two tickets for Scotland v England  at Murrayfield. There is a God after all. :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on January 28, 2014, 06:11:43 pm
Steven Gerrard, what a guy.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on January 28, 2014, 08:11:45 pm
It's a wonderful gesture but I'm just a bit surprised that he's done it all so publicly.  Maybe he's trying to encourage other overly-rich sportsmen to do the same sort of thing, in which case, I hope it works!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on February 02, 2014, 08:35:14 pm
Hm.  Bit bored, no work tomorrow.  I may stay up and watch the Super  Bollix thing.
Popped over the road for Twiglets and Minstrals.  :P
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on February 03, 2014, 10:22:11 am
Nah.  Fell asleep on the settee before it started.  Woke up just as the first quarter was coming to the end.  Watched a couple of minutes of the second quarter.  Couldn't get into it.  Went to bed.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on February 03, 2014, 09:39:35 pm
City vs Chelsea, eh? Blimey.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on February 08, 2014, 02:02:10 pm
How long is it since the team at the top of the premiership were 5 - 0 down?

Edit: I have just read that Arsenal's heaviest defeat at Anfield was 5 - 0 in 1964.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on February 08, 2014, 03:11:07 pm
bobb and I were up at the Commie today and Wednesday watching Edinburgh diving club's internal competition. Grace Reid is a member of that club - she came 6th at the last Commonwealth Games. I'll be surprised if she doesn't get a medal next year; she's outstanding. Some of the younger ones look very promising too.
And James Heatley of EDC beat Tom Daley last weekend.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on February 11, 2014, 10:33:35 am
Geraint Thomas vs Mark Lawrenson (posted here rather than elsewhere due to foopball content):
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26117493
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on May 08, 2014, 05:49:01 pm
Hoorah (I suppose).  Bournville Athletic have won the cup!
Exactly what cup that is, I'm not entirely sure.  But hoorah anyway.  :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on May 08, 2014, 06:06:09 pm
It's a drinking vessel, but not normally used for beer.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on May 08, 2014, 06:09:22 pm
Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on May 17, 2014, 05:07:27 pm
Come on Hull!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on May 17, 2014, 05:09:22 pm
Come on Hull!

 :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Polar Bear on May 18, 2014, 07:06:30 pm
Come on Hull!

 :o

Oops!!   :P
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on May 18, 2014, 10:04:47 pm
Come on Hull!

 :o

Oops!!   :P

I know - damn shame.

I was at the last game at Boothferry Park where Darlo beat Hull.

Ten years later, it's damn weird to see them in the FA Cup final.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on May 19, 2014, 10:53:17 am
A shame.  I don't suppose there was anyone except Arsenal fans who didn't hope for a Hull win.  In fairness, I think Hull were lucky not to have had (at least) two penalties given against them.  It was great to see so many British players on the Hull side, too - made it seem more like a proper cup final.  Perhaps there is a small amount of justice that Hull's Myler didn't get a winner's medal after his appalling unpunished stamp on an opponent's knee in a recent game - not to mention his attacking Alan Pardew's forehead with his nose!

As an artistic TV spectacle I thought it was appalling: the clash between red and the black and orange made for very muddy viewing and when you add in the pink (pink for God's sake) ball it was all most unsatisfactory!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on June 07, 2014, 07:33:34 pm
A spectacular catch (http://m.espn.go.com/general/video?vid=11042840&cid=9912238&src=desktop&rand=ref~%7B%22ref%22%3A%22http%3A%2F%2Ft.co%2FbfMCnOLw8w%22%7D)

Wow!  6 or out.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on June 11, 2014, 10:05:05 am
Somerset bowler Alfonso Thomas has taken four wickets in four balls.

Good effort, that, I thought.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on June 14, 2014, 03:15:57 pm
I swam a blissful mile today. The pool was nearly empty and I had the lane to myself for most of the time.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Marco Stefano on August 08, 2014, 11:45:59 am
Just back from sunny Swansea (and it was) supporting Ms Marco in the England U18 Touch Rugby team in the first ever U18 Euro Championships (home nations, plus France and Switzerland). Ms Marco did her bit for a sponsor, Sport Tape, by having continuous runs of tape from neck to heel down each leg applied by the physios - photos on England Touch Facebook page.

England won the pool stages (10 matches, each opponent played twice) and the semi-final against Scotland, but lost to Wales 6-3 in the final. Galling as England had beaten Wales in both pool matches, but congratulations to Wales.

Brilliant game (I like it much better than sevens), brilliant tournament. Adult Euro Champs started yesterday with about 20 national & regional teams. Hopefully another U18 Euro champs next year in Dublin, and hopefully the Swiss will be there; they turned up with flags, cowbells and huge smiles determined to enjoy themselves, and beat France (who fell to stereotypical bickering amongst themselves) in the 5th/6th playoff match to much applause.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on August 08, 2014, 11:52:04 am
Swansea is always sunny. :P

We were there in 1995 for the British Chess Championships and it was sweltering. There was one day when it was massively hot and humid in Swansea, but without any rain to speak of, but something like 3" of rain fell in Cardiff.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on August 08, 2014, 11:53:58 am
It didn't help in '95 that the Air Con in the main room was dead. I remember playing games where you spent the minimum possible time in the room, and quickly moved back to the slightly cooler bar area to cool down again.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on August 08, 2014, 12:01:42 pm
I recall Graham playing a game against a lad a year older than himself - Andrew Hughes I think his name was - and it went on for over 4 hours. G consumed more than 3 litres of orange squash. Most annoyingly, he lost the game in which he had had a promising position for about 50 moves but it gradually went downhill as Graham became more and more tired. Not surprising, I suppose, because he was about 6 weeks short of his 11th birthday at the time.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on September 05, 2014, 09:46:32 pm
Our Director was going on about his table football set today. He's a know Leeds Utd supporter so I asked him if one of the teams of little men on sticks are wearing Leeds kits. He said yes, so I asked if the opposition have had their legs hacked off.

He didn't think it was as funny as the rest of us did.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on September 05, 2014, 10:11:41 pm
Very good!  :thumbsup:

All together now!

Quote
We all hate Leeds and Leeds...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on September 06, 2014, 01:20:09 am
Quote from: nb10
So he’d send his doting mother up the stairs with the stepladders
To get the Subbuteo out of the loft
He had all the accessories required for that big match atmosphere
The crowd and the dugout and the floodlights too
You’d always get palmed off with a headless centre forward
And a goalkeeper with no arms and a face like his
And he’d managed to get hold of a Dukla Prague away kit
‘Cos his uncle owned a sports shop and he’d kept it to one side
And after only five minutes you’d be down to ten men
‘Cos he’d sent off your right back for taking the base from under his left winger
And come to half time you were losing four-nil
Each and every goal a hotly disputed penalty
So you’d smash up the floodlights and the match was abandoned
And the dog would bark and you’d be banned from his house
And your travelling army of synthetic supporters
Would be taken away from you and thrown in the bin
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on September 08, 2014, 09:29:02 pm
Something fairly unusual might be about to happen in a football match.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on September 08, 2014, 09:37:17 pm
A propos of the above, good grief!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on September 08, 2014, 10:41:17 pm
Well this 'poor' England team just beat the team ranked 9th in the world away.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on September 08, 2014, 10:42:58 pm
To quote some Graun wit, England made Switzerland look "extremely average" whereas they are in fact, "quite average".
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on September 15, 2014, 05:01:59 pm
I just received an email inviting me to attend a rygbi match at Twickenham, England v New Zealand. Now, in my book, an invitation is just that, no strings attachd. If I invite someone over to dinner, I don't charge them for the food.

I clicked the link and discovered that the price of the place to which I had been invited was £599. Bollocks to that.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Clare on September 21, 2014, 04:47:20 pm
Gosh, what was in Leicester's half time oranges?

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on September 21, 2014, 05:28:26 pm
I don't know but I'm very grateful to them for sparing Liverpool the title of "biggest humiliation of the weekend"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on September 21, 2014, 09:23:55 pm
I don't know but I'm very grateful to them for sparing Liverpool the title of "biggest humiliation of the weekend"

Liverpool's humiliation is still colossal: without even playing, Newcastle soared effortlessly back to the bottom - but they've still lost one fewer game than Liverpool.  This is shaping up to be a fascinating season:  Will Newcastle be relegated by Christmas; will Diego Costa declare at half-time against Newcastle....?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on September 21, 2014, 11:53:58 pm
One of the Border Patrol chaps at a checkpoint I was stopped at yesterday is a West Ham fan.  No wonder he was in a good mood :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on September 23, 2014, 11:50:42 pm
Liverpool beat Boro on penalties - 14:13 :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Biff on September 27, 2014, 07:03:19 pm
Seen on a tee shirt -

Football - 90 minutes pretending you're hurt.
Cycling - 6 hours pretending you're not.

Like  8)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on October 16, 2014, 08:23:12 pm
A lovely story, getting some wider attention:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29532529

The book about Arthur Wharton mentioned is a fascinating read, too.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: tiermat on October 16, 2014, 08:50:06 pm
A lovely story, getting some wider attention:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29532529

The book about Arthur Wharton mentioned is a fascinating read, too.

Heard about that on the radio, this morning.

Thought you might have linked to the Darlo man who won the World Masters, again, only 7 years after taking up track racing. :)

http://road.cc/content/news/133236-53-year-old-darlington-fireman-wins-third-uci-world-masters-title
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on October 17, 2014, 10:52:00 am
A lovely story, getting some wider attention:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/29532529

The book about Arthur Wharton mentioned is a fascinating read, too.

It is a stunning piece of work and I'm fortunate to have met the sculptor, Vivien Mallock, a couple of times in her workshop nearby.

Here's the piece earlier this year in the Quarley foundry, part of the artists' workshop complex (Their annual open day).

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0pSFFqiT_JU/VEDlUKQYFaI/AAAAAAAAEWo/JvuClbWnN9M/w1296-h865-no/Arthur%2BWharton%2B1.jpg)

By sheer coincidence another of her pieces I bumped into whilst visiting Pegasus Bridge memorial (D-Day coast).

Brig. James Hill
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9zxybGeb5v8/VEDlVlaVx6I/AAAAAAAAEWw/nHuiQr3VpSg/w1298-h865-no/Vivien%2BMallock%2B-%2BPegasus.jpg)

And here working on the maquette for a Waterloo memorial.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-S4A6ORYlI_8/U3nHtSiakuI/AAAAAAAADA0/-y2IjsH4XNk/w1298-h865-no/Quarley%2BArt022.JPG)

I never feel quite so talentless as when I walk around the Quarley studios and watch the artists at work.

Her work is all over the place, including Whitehall, the Pentagon, Portsmouth harbour.  She only tried sculpting in middle-age......she clearly has a knack for it.


I think I'll announce on YACF when the next open day is.  It's a lovely place to ride to (not far from the Wyke Down Camp site actually) and they sell Caik.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Biff on November 01, 2014, 05:31:04 pm
Stone the bloody crows.

http://tinyurl.com/nkv3t5b
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on November 03, 2014, 04:37:36 pm
Stone the bloody crows.

http://tinyurl.com/nkv3t5b

What is it about the article that surprises you?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on November 03, 2014, 04:51:04 pm
Tennis.

Why the news coverage?

I understand it's an enjoyable game to play but really. it does seem to attract a disproportionate amount of news coverage.

"Andy Murray is through the the 3rd round of the Dubai ...."

"Andy Murray meets Roger Federer in the last 16 of the Beijing......"

There doesn't seem to be a day goes by without me learning about the whereabouts of the Scottish Tax-exile.

I can honestly  say that, apart from Wimbledon fortnight, nobody I know, or have ever known, talks about tennis, at all, ever.
I have never overheard a conversation about tennis.

Why the coverage?  It's currently the top BBC sports news headline item.

Why do I always know where Andy Murray is?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 03, 2014, 05:25:25 pm
I agree. Golf likewise. And motor racing.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Biff on November 10, 2014, 06:39:59 pm
Stone the bloody crows.

http://tinyurl.com/nkv3t5b

What is it about the article that surprises you?

That someone with an apparently important position can have and express such neanderthal views.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 11, 2014, 11:15:02 pm
New Zealand spectator wins $5000 with a spectacular catch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSX5TqnCPeY
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on November 12, 2014, 09:30:53 pm
Stone the bloody crows.

http://tinyurl.com/nkv3t5b

What is it about the article that surprises you?

That someone with an apparently important position can have and express such neanderthal views.

It's an article about Russia.
Now what is it about the article that surprises you?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Biff on November 14, 2014, 11:50:45 am
OK Lee, you win. Congrats.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Biff on November 14, 2014, 11:53:11 am
Today is Bernard Hinault's 60th birthday. Felicitations to the most badass rider ever. God I feel old.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 14, 2014, 05:39:38 pm
Blimey! I didn't realise I was older than him.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 22, 2014, 06:29:25 pm
Possibly the autumn rugby internationals should have a thread of their own, but ICBA to start one. However, it looks as though the Irish did well enough to breath a sigh of relief against Australia. They were 17 - 0 up at one time and eventually won 26 - 23, the score having been 20 - 20 at one point.

Well done them!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on November 22, 2014, 06:59:34 pm
20 minutes to go in Cardiff.

(Crosses all available appendages).

Edit: Bugger.  NOW look wot I dun :(
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 22, 2014, 11:10:26 pm
Yes, I was interested in that too. I had to go and sing in a church and having my phone on would have been inappropriate indeed. It was 3 - 3 when I went out, and I think that must have been in the second half (assuming that the BBC website was staying up to date) but at half-time in the concert I looked and saw the awful reality.

When I was born the score in matches between Wales and New Zealand was 3 - 1 to Wales. Wales haven't won since, so that must be my fault.

In my youth, I think 1972, I went to Cardiff and saw Wales beat Australia 20-odd to 0, which I believe remains a record between the sides. After the match I went to Cardiff station for my train back to college and overheard an old Australian bloke talking to a platform porter: "It's been an ambition all my life to see the Wallabies play in Cardiff," said he. I feel a bit like him.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 23, 2014, 04:28:36 pm
The England team is playing at Wembley today for the first time. Apparently, England has never beaten Germany before, and it's not looking likely at the moment.

This is, of course, the Women's match. I understand that it's a sell-out, which is more than the men could manage last time they played.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: tiermat on November 26, 2014, 06:40:57 am
TLD played in her first interschool football match yesterday.

Her team came joint top (after 7 games), so they are through to the final.

Even more surprising, though, is that TLD was top tournement goal scorer!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Marco Stefano on November 30, 2014, 06:44:32 pm
Ms Marco played scrum half for Eastern Counties U18s against Essex this afternoon in Diss, ending 53-7, a bit of a rout. Some brilliant play by the girls though; they have some stand-out players. Essex had some players in only their first or second games, so they did okay and seemed to enjoy it despite the scoreline.

Some great rugby-playing make-up on display from the opposition; you can take the girls out of Essex, but...   ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on December 05, 2014, 09:49:45 pm
Blyth Spartans have beaten Hartlepool! ;D

(Sorry, Mrs Basil)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on December 06, 2014, 12:19:45 am
Even though both teams scored twice!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on December 06, 2014, 01:25:24 am
Even though both teams scored twice!

^^^
This!
 >:(

As usual, "Ned" Flinders was great, but the defence in front of him was total rubbish.  Really feel sorry for him.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on December 07, 2014, 01:57:34 pm
Sheffield Wednesday v Manchester United 40 years ago today.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4PzNagIYAAq1E0.jpg)

The names of Manchester United players are all familiar, as are 6 of the Sheffield Wednesday lineup (and one of the linesmen Gilbert Napthine) but the name which leaps out at me is that of the Wednesday number 9. We were at school together, by which I don't mean just that we were at the same school at the same time , but were in the same form, did the same subjects, played for the same school and representative teams and travelled together for various trials. He once copied my Latin homework. A year after O levels, I was still playing school (and county) football, and he was scoring on his debut in a televised local derby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PgASEbSYCKU&feature=youtu.be&a

He only played 11 times for Wednesday, but had 4 seasons at Darlington

Quote from: wikipedia
In December 1976, Ferguson scored the only goal of the game to eliminate his former club from the 1976–77 FA Cup. The goal, a powerful drive from a distance of anything from 30 to 50 yards (25 to 45 m), was voted best goal ever seen at Darlington's Feethams ground in a 2003 poll on the occasion of the ground's closure.

He ended his career in the Belgian lower leagues.

Remember him, Deano?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on December 07, 2014, 02:22:16 pm
Actually, no - I hadn't been born yet..

The best goal I saw at Feethams was Marco Gabbiadini chipping the keeper from within the 18-yard box.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on December 07, 2014, 09:27:59 pm
Actually, no - I hadn't been born yet..

Ouch!  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on December 09, 2014, 01:22:40 am
Over the weekend I took part in a Chess and Education conference at Olympia, where the London Chess Classic is taking place over the coming week. During the weekend there was a rapidplay tournament taking place, involving some of the world's top players.

It was the first time that I have seen quite a few of these players in action. Fabiana Caruana is the World no. 2 in longplay rating, behind Magnus Carlsen, who was not playing at the weekend. I have never seen such a dainty man. I would estimate that he was scarcely more than 5'2" and weighed considerably less than 9 stone. I watched him lose the penultimate round to Hikaru Nakamura, the tournament winner.

I had played quite a few of the top players years ago with mixed results. I used to pick Lawrence Trent for Essex when he was a junior and taught him quite a bit of chess in that time, but I don't think I ever played him in a tournament game. I've played Sadler and McShane (both draws) and lost to David Howell. I think I have a plus score against Nick Pert, former World u-20 champion, but it's hard to be sure: he has an identical twin brother and I have played them both over the years. It was quite gratifying to see Sadler draw with former World Champion Anand and Nakamura in consecutive rounds and McShane draw with another World Championship finalist Nigel Short in one of those rounds.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on January 22, 2015, 08:59:26 pm
It's 20 years since Eric Cantona got his boot laces caught on that man's shirt. Radio 5 Live are, for some reason, acting like seagulls following his trawler.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on January 22, 2015, 10:17:44 pm
It's 20 years since Eric Cantona got his boot laces caught on that man's shirt. Radio 5 Live are, for some reason, acting like seagulls following his trawler.

Funnily enough, that's precisely what I said to Mrs. Wow. We wouldn't normally listen to Radio 5 Live, but we have been at our daughter's house and her radio seems to default to that. In the afternoon there was another story involving a seagull as one was hit by a cricket ball at the MCG*, knocked unconscious for a while, but got better. I recall a similar incident a few years ago when Richie Benaud was commentating.

*Momentarily Comatose Gull
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on January 24, 2015, 10:30:44 pm
Ha bloody ha!

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Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on January 24, 2015, 11:07:06 pm
I'll forgive you for missing my earlier post elsewhere, WOw.

The football :o

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I just caught MotD. Bradford deserved it - but Boro utterly thrashed Man City!

What a day.
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Post by: Peter on January 24, 2015, 11:44:55 pm
And Mourinho had  the grace to admit that he was embarrassed and that his players should be embarrassed, too - lessons there for the immature Mr Van Gaal.  Mind you, Jose has been a slow learner, earlier claiming that his Chelsea team were beaten not by Newcastle but by their ball-boys.

What a great day!

Dean, I'm imagining that Boro fielded a weakened team to protect their promotion push?!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on February 12, 2015, 01:05:21 pm
On Tuesday I made one of my rare visits to Calthorpe Park to watch Fleet Town lose 6-0 to Taunton Town in the Evo-Stick Southern League Division 1 South and West. Spectators were just about outnumbered by players and officials.

Rodney Marsh* scored a hat-trick for the visitors.

Amongst the players who have played for Fleet Town in the past are
- Leroy Rosenior (who was once manager of Torquay United for 10 minutes)
- Hans Segers (who in 1997 was cleared of match-fixing during his time as Wimbledon goalkeeper) and
- Clement Atlee**.

* No, not the ex QPR & Manchester City forward Rodney Marsh
** Yes, this Clement Atlee:
(http://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/8de814c20f73b241caba2552b78f20131cdb2fa0.jpg)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on March 09, 2015, 09:24:34 pm
Bloody hell!  A Manchester United player has just been sent off!

At Old Trafford :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on March 10, 2015, 10:23:34 am
Bloody hell!  A Manchester United player has just been sent off!

At Old Trafford :o

He did have to grab hold of the referee to acheive it though
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on March 17, 2015, 10:13:00 pm
Hartlepool Utd have just played 2 away matches in 4 days.  Bloody hell!  6 points!  :D

On checking the table I see we've they've stormed up to
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Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on March 17, 2015, 10:35:41 pm
Did they hang any gibbons?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on March 18, 2015, 12:32:24 am
No, that's home matches only - but I'm impressed that it's something you admit to knowing about!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on March 18, 2015, 06:30:57 am
High court judges are unto hanging.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on March 18, 2015, 10:39:20 am
You old beat combo, you!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on March 18, 2015, 06:06:41 pm
Not so much flogging though.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on March 18, 2015, 08:13:44 pm
Time to invoke the dead horse, I trow!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on March 19, 2015, 12:31:02 am
Neigh, surely not!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on April 05, 2015, 08:36:56 pm
Amusing end to a football tournament

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/02/gibraltar-u16s-macedonia-goal-celebrations (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/02/gibraltar-u16s-macedonia-goal-celebrations)

Gibraltar U16 vs Macedonia U16

Last match of the tournament - Macedonia take the the lead from a corner in the 91st minute and thinking they've done enough to win the tournament rush over to celebrate with the rest of their substitutes. Sadly they're all celebrating in their own half of the field allowing Gibraltar to take a quick kick off and run up the field score and win the tournament themselves.

Action from about 1:31 onwards
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 06, 2015, 07:53:39 am
Barney Gibson has retired from first class cricket. He is 19.

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/apr/03/barney-gibson-youngest-first-class-cricketer-retires
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on April 06, 2015, 10:21:31 am
It makes a nice headline but his original (only) remarkable appearance for the first team, and therefore in first-class cricket, was his only one and he effectively retired after that by not being quite good enough, I think.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 06, 2015, 12:00:08 pm
Indeed. It compares, not unfavourably, to the first class career of Geoffrey Charles Hurst.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on April 06, 2015, 12:06:37 pm
Indeed. It compares, not unfavourably, to the first class career of Geoffrey Charles Hurst.

But not quite on a par with that of Samuel Beckett.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 06, 2015, 01:32:53 pm
Well Beckett's career lasted twice as long and I would think his occupation of the crease much longer than the other two combined.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on April 06, 2015, 01:59:23 pm
Well Beckett's career lasted twice as long and I would think his occupation of the crease much longer than the other two combined.

Samuel Beckett's first-class stats. He stayed in long enough to score 35 runs.

Batting and fielding averages
              Mat  Inns   NO   Runs   HS   Ave   100   50   Ct   St
First-class   2     4      0   35   18   8.75   0      0     2      0
Bowling averages
           Mat   Balls   Runs   Wkts   BBI   BBM   Ave   Econ   SR   4w   5w   10
First-class   2   138     64      0      -      -      -      2.78   -   0   0   0


Beckett is the only first-class cricketer to have won a Nobel Prize. Or perhaps it should be the only Nobel Prize winner to have played first-class cricket.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on April 06, 2015, 02:12:23 pm
That compares pretty well with the current England one-day captain.  Of course, its a little early to say whether or not Morgan will get a Nobel Prize for his yet-to-be-announced autobiography "Leading From Behind".  I hope he manages to resurrect his career but not in an England shirt for a while.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on April 07, 2015, 06:08:37 pm
I've just learned that FIFA has an "Ethics Committee" 8)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on April 07, 2015, 07:01:15 pm
Know Thy Enemy!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on April 07, 2015, 07:10:21 pm
Amusing end to a football tournament

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/02/gibraltar-u16s-macedonia-goal-celebrations (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/02/gibraltar-u16s-macedonia-goal-celebrations)

Gibraltar U16 vs Macedonia U16

Last match of the tournament - Macedonia take the the lead from a corner in the 91st minute and thinking they've done enough to win the tournament rush over to celebrate with the rest of their substitutes. Sadly they're all celebrating in their own half of the field allowing Gibraltar to take a quick kick off and run up the field score and win the tournament themselves.

Action from about 1:31 onwards
Great story !!!

[is it legal to kickoff with [EDIT:]MORE THAN two players in the centre-circle?

They had 3 players in the circle - which is unusual, but probably not illegal. (stupid typo, sorry!)
]
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on April 07, 2015, 08:43:05 pm


[is it legal to kickoff with 2 players in the centre-circle?]


Yes, in fact it's the normal way.
AIUI the rules are

All players must be in their own half of the field
No opposition players in the centre circle
Player taking the kick off must kick the ball forward and can't touch it again until another player has touched it.

The ref doesn't have to check that both teams are ready for the kick off.

If Macedonia had been celebrating at the other dugout they would have been ok. In theory the ref could have stopped it because I think a couple of Macedonian subs were inside the field of play but he either didn't notice or played an advantage.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on April 07, 2015, 09:49:57 pm
I've just learned that FIFA has an "Ethics Committee" 8)

Surely a typo, must be Ethnics or perhaps Essex.  Either would make more sense for FIFA than 'Ethics'.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 07, 2015, 10:48:46 pm
I've just learned that FIFA has an "Ethics Committee" 8)

Yeth, it governth football in Chelmthford, Colchethter and Thouthend.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on April 08, 2015, 10:19:02 am


[is it legal to kickoff with [EDIT:]MORE THAN two players in the centre-circle?

They had 3 players in the circle - which is unusual, but probably not illegal. (stupid typo, sorry!)
]


I think so

"Kick-off
• after a team scores a goal, the kick-off is taken by the other team.
• all players must be in their own half of the field of play
• the opponents of the team taking the kick-off are at least 9.15 m (10 yds)
from the ball until it is in play
• the ball must be stationary on the centre mark
• the referee gives a signal
• the ball is in play when it is kicked and moves forward
• the kicker must not touch the ball again until it has touched another player"

From the Fifa website. Other websites mention the attacking team not having more than 2 players in the centre circle but from my interpretation of the above they are incorrect.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on April 08, 2015, 12:08:53 pm
I've just learned that FIFA has an "Ethics Committee" 8)
Crossing the road with my son earlier today, he spotted an "Antifa"[scist] sticker on the pelican man. "Anti-FIFA???" he wondered, and maybe he wasn't wrong?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on May 08, 2015, 08:38:26 pm
Come on Boro!!! (Even if you have borrowed Leeds' kit for the night.)

Tomorrow is my real dilemna- Half of the Norwich team are ex-Leeds  and we lived in Canary land for a while, within shouting distance of Carrow Road.
 BUT Mrs. M is ITFC through and through so -Come on Tractor Boys !!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: tiermat on May 22, 2015, 10:27:54 am
FFS!

Chicago Blackhawks sailed through the first two rounds of the Stanley cup finals, the second round being a straight 4-0 rout.

Now they are playing Anaheim Ducks in the third round and they lose their third game (of 7) AT HOME!!!!! FFS.  Pull oyour bloody collective finger out or there will be a repeat of last year! :( GRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on May 30, 2015, 07:41:43 pm
I know they've been doingit for a few years, but I still think ARSEnal in blue and yellow is just WRONG.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 08, 2015, 02:52:01 pm
The bbc has a report on a woman setting off from japan in a bid to be the first woman to row solo across the Pacific.

No mention in the report of Sarah Outen at all, despite Sarah having completed a row from Japan to Alaska.

I accept that the new contender is being more purist, in that they are aiming for San Francisco, but Sarah should have got a mention.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on June 09, 2015, 08:41:47 pm
Oops!  ::-)

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2015/6/8/8748933/pat-venditte-switch-pitcher-newspaper-headline-amphibious-pitcher
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on June 15, 2015, 04:53:16 pm
My son's just been to his first professional football match. Real Madrid Legends v Liverpool Legends. We weren't sure what this would mean it practice; apparently (cos I'm still here in Big Island)  the legends included Zidane, Roberto Carlos, Dudek, Robbie Fowler, Ian Rush (this at least I had predicted!) and Michael Owen. Pretty good for 5 euros!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: tiermat on June 16, 2015, 09:14:15 am
YAY! For the third time in six seasons, The Chicago Blackhawks have won the Stanley Cup!!!

I am one happy little bunny...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on June 16, 2015, 10:07:23 am
And you are alone - well, in England, anyway!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on June 16, 2015, 10:15:19 am
I thought the Stanley Cup was a Blackpool & Fylde Crown Green Bowls trophy (current champions Kirkham Hamsters).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: tiermat on June 16, 2015, 10:25:40 am
I thought the Stanley Cup was a Blackpool & Fylde Crown Green Bowls trophy (current champions Kirkham Hamsters).

It may well be, but I am talking about it's more famous (at least in leftpondia) cousin, The Lord Stanley Cup, think of it as the FA Cup for Ice Hockey.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on June 16, 2015, 02:44:35 pm
Real 4 - 2 Liverpool.
Dudek and Owen both switched teams at half time, having played for both clubs in their careers. And then in the airport yesterday, they spotted Jerzy Dudek, had a chat and got his autograph. Apparently he is quite a talkative bloke.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on July 06, 2015, 03:02:30 pm
Sarah Outen has had the rudder torn off her boat. Bloody long way to row without being able to set a rudder.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on August 14, 2015, 07:26:03 pm
It's always the dream for clubs like Hartlepool to draw a premiership club in the second round of the League Cup.

Oh hang on.  Who?

WHO?
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Post by: Wowbagger on August 14, 2015, 07:38:51 pm
Dunno Bas. Are you going to tell us? Or do I have to sully my computer looking at fupbol fixtures?
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Post by: Basil on August 14, 2015, 08:01:26 pm
Sorry, I shouldn't have posted that.  Im not really into football, as you know.  I sometimes make the mistake of posting something and then regretting it as I don't have the knowledge to comment further.

My FiL and BiL are lifelong dedicated HardlyPoo Untied fans.  It's always been my wish that they one day draw a big midland club, like Apron Vanilla or someone, in a cup competition, so that I could get tickets for us all and have a good bonding w/e while we celebrate losing less than ten nil.

The draw against a top club finally happened.  Well nearly.  They've drawn Bourmouth.  Who to my surprise are indeed a premiership outfit.  But probably not what they had in mind.
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Post by: Wowbagger on August 14, 2015, 08:02:44 pm
Bournemouth? Or Barmouth??  :o
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Post by: Basil on August 14, 2015, 08:08:18 pm
Bugger.
Yes, Bournemouth.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on August 14, 2015, 08:08:47 pm
Bugger.
Yes, Bournemouth.

No, that was Bognor.
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Post by: Basil on August 14, 2015, 08:09:53 pm
 ;D
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Post by: Wowbagger on August 14, 2015, 08:16:07 pm
I have just checked and I have to concur. There, indeed, is Bournemouth in the Premiership! The top three looked pretty unusual as well (Leicester, Crystal Palace, West Ham) until I noticed that a different colour blue at the very top was reserved for Manchester City.

Wouldn't it be a refreshing change if Leicester, Crystal Palace and West Ham were battling it out for the championship* at the end of the season?

*OK, I know that down to some misnomer the second division is now called the "Championship", but that is just silly.
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Post by: madcow on September 20, 2015, 10:11:24 pm
I watched the whole of the GAA (Gaelic football)  final on Sky today. Fantastic,  fast moving game played in torrential rain , which made handling the ball tricky but also added to the spectacle.
I have never fully understood the rules of the game , still don't , but what a match.
Dublin beat Kerry.
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Post by: Andrij on October 13, 2015, 01:34:01 pm
I shall be slightly less befuddled should I ever see another cricket match: cricket umpire signals explained (http://www.thepoke.co.uk/2015/07/08/cricket-umpire-signals-explained/).
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Post by: Andrij on October 16, 2015, 05:46:26 pm
I'm watching* a football match between two Ukrainian clubs (Dynamo vs. Shakhtar).  One commentator is speaking in Ukrainian, the other in Russian.  If you hear a loud noise coming from the direction of East London that will be my head exploding.


* I'm multi-tasking at present, so mostly just listening.
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Post by: madcow on October 28, 2015, 11:17:58 pm
Well done ,Boro.
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Post by: Peter on October 29, 2015, 12:22:01 am
Excellent!
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Post by: Basil on November 07, 2015, 11:16:48 pm
Well, well.  So Hardlypoo Untied won their cup tie today.  Much joy in the town.
But hold.  Radio Five are talking of the draw for round two.   Consternation spreads through the evening streets.   "What is this Fa Cup round two of which they speak?  Have we not just won the FA Cup tie?  Are they saying we must play again?"

 ;)
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Post by: Wowbagger on November 07, 2015, 11:30:46 pm
Southend Untied have successfully avoided the second round draw after a visit to Scunthorpe.
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Post by: Basil on November 07, 2015, 11:36:52 pm
Southend Untied have successfully avoided the second round draw after a visit to Scunthorpe.

Aka "We're concentrating on the League"
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on November 09, 2015, 02:15:17 pm
Easton Cowboys 0:1 Ashley
Bansky was not playing. At least, as far as I know.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on November 20, 2015, 09:38:41 am
Use of High-Tech Brooms Divides Low-Tech Sport of Curling (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/20/sports/facing-control-issues-curling-draws-line-at-high-tech-brooms.html)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 22, 2015, 06:17:26 pm
I just looked at the Premiership table for the first time for several weeks.

Leicester City? Really? That is quite amusing.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on November 22, 2015, 08:07:39 pm
Not in ****ing Newcastle it isn't.  Absolutely not!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 22, 2015, 09:43:13 pm
I bet you'd have settled for Newcastle being only two places below Chelsea at this stage of the season.
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Post by: Peter on November 22, 2015, 11:19:56 pm
Sure.  Crazy thing is we drew with both Chelsea and Manchester United early on.  We soon came to realise that most people actually beat Chelsea!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on December 05, 2015, 11:43:35 pm
For comedy value, Chelsea 0 - 1 Bournemouth takes a bit of beating.  ;D
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Post by: Pingu on December 06, 2015, 09:47:30 pm
For comedy value, Chelsea 0 - 1 Bournemouth takes a bit of beating.  ;D

Because they're both associated with pensioners?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on December 14, 2015, 09:09:23 pm
One of the papers today reported that the chosen one was  desperate to narrow the gap between Chelsea and the top four.
On the basis of tonight's match they should be more worried about the distance between themselves and the bottom of the table.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on December 14, 2015, 10:20:26 pm
One of the papers today reported that the chosen one was  desperate to narrow the gap between Chelsea and the top four.
On the basis of tonight's match they should be more worried about the distance between themselves and the bottom of the table.

How splendid! Did anyone we know, perchance, put £5 on Leicester to win the league when they were 2000-1 outsiders? Sadly, I didn't. Long way to go, of course, but it is so refreshing to see the mega-clubs, with all their wealth and arrogance, being humbled by an "ordinary" side.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on December 15, 2015, 05:36:15 am
http://gu.com/p/4f4be?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

What a horribly misleading headline! I suppose the word "thong" has an alternative meaning in antipodean. I have to say that my immediate thought was "Do they inspect everyone who flies with them? And how awfully out of character for Mr. Pieterson to sport that sort of thing!"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 15, 2015, 11:07:48 am
A thong is a flip-flop. The sort you wear on your feet, not a fixie hub. Haven't read the headline so it might not refer to that.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on December 15, 2015, 11:35:02 am
It does refer to a flip-flop. A thong is a minuscule item of underwear.

I have never heard of anyone referring to a flip-flop as a thong before. I don't know why they would. It's nothing like a thong.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 15, 2015, 11:39:49 am
It's Antipodean, as you said. I suppose because the strap that goes between your toes is a sort of thong. I don't know what word they use for what we call a thong but I do know that "a spunk" is a good looking man. What we'd call a hunk. Odd things, words.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on December 15, 2015, 11:52:36 am
They also use Durex for wrapping their Christmas presents.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on December 15, 2015, 12:19:53 pm
A thong ith wordth thet to muthic.   
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Post by: Peter on December 15, 2015, 02:16:15 pm
thath jutht thilly
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Post by: Mr Larrington on December 15, 2015, 04:37:45 pm
It's Antipodean, as you said. I suppose because the strap that goes between your toes is a sort of thong. I don't know what word they use for what we call a thong but I do know that "a spunk" is a good looking man. What we'd call a hunk. Odd things, words.

The Kyuss track "Thong Song" is also, perhaps surprisingly, a reference to the footwear and they're USAnian.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on December 15, 2015, 05:13:51 pm
PBC, m'lud?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 15, 2015, 08:57:47 pm
PBC thong is a thing.

(http://i3.cpcache.com/product/465841981/pbc_logo_classic_thong.jpg?color=White&height=460&width=460&qv=90)
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Post by: spesh on December 17, 2015, 03:35:37 pm
One of the papers today reported that the chosen one was  desperate to narrow the gap between Chelsea and the top four.
On the basis of tonight's match they should be more worried about the distance between themselves and the bottom of the table.

Not his problem any more - he's been sacked.  ;D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/34670192
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on December 17, 2015, 03:52:23 pm
They also use Durex for wrapping their Christmas presents.
No they don't, that's a myth to mess up tourists. They use sticky tape and wrapping paper.

Australians called a particular type of flip-flop 'thongs' back in 1970. I think that pre-dated 'thong' as an item of underwear (weren't they called g-strings back then?).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on January 01, 2016, 06:56:37 pm
I'm currently watching Blues v Scarlets on S4C.  Which is nice, after the BBC's offering of Ospreys v Dragons earlier.
BUT, I am becoming increasingly frustrated with the rule that deems a failed attempt at an interception, however genuine, to be a deliberate knock on.
A Llanelli player almost made it, just failed and gets a yellow card.

WTF?
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Post by: Wowbagger on January 01, 2016, 07:23:27 pm
I agree, Basil. There were a couple of examples of this in the World Cup and it's a very silly rule.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on February 18, 2016, 10:10:29 pm
I have just read that Shane Warne, appearing on some damned-fool reality television show, was involved in some antic which involved putting his face into a tank of snakes. He was bitten on the head by an anaconda.

Such a shame.
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Post by: Deano on February 18, 2016, 10:36:01 pm
That's not the half of it, wow :(

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/nov/14/shane-warnes-charity-under-investigation-claims-report
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Post by: Wowbagger on February 18, 2016, 10:40:57 pm
Perhaps that explains why the anaconda was feeling unwell afterwards.
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Post by: ElyDave on February 20, 2016, 07:07:39 am
I read that he has also postulated that the theory of evolution is bunk, and that we are all descended from aien invaders.  Not sure if that was pre- or post snake bite
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on February 20, 2016, 08:39:40 am
I never believe anything I read about Shane Warne. I think it's all just spin.

Yes, that's mine, the white umpiring jacket.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on February 20, 2016, 03:14:06 pm
I never believe anything I read about Shane Warne. I think it's all just spin.

Yes, that's mine, the white umpiring jacket.

I just found out he's finished with Elizabeth Hurley.  Only a few years ago he said she was "a Keeper".  Personally I thought her hands were too delicate for that.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Pingu on March 01, 2016, 01:08:02 pm
I never believe anything I read about Shane Warne. I think it's all just spin.

Yes, that's mine, the white umpiring jacket.

I just found out he's finished with Elizabeth Hurley.  Only a few years ago he said she was "a Keeper".  Personally I thought her hands were too delicate for that.

Is he now trying to bowl a maiden over?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on March 26, 2016, 09:43:37 pm
Blimey!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on March 27, 2016, 09:37:26 am
Did ITV really treat the first and second halves to last night's foopball as separate episodes of a series or is Lt. Col. Larrington (retd.)'s PVR suffering from droid rot?  Coz the wretched thing recorded the pre-match waffle, the first half and the half-time waffle before switching itself off chiz >:(
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on March 27, 2016, 10:56:39 am
Blimey!

That's what I thought, although I wasn't even aware that they had been playing until just now. That will be revenge for 1970, then.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on March 27, 2016, 11:07:37 am
Did ITV really treat the first and second halves to last night's foopball as separate episodes of a series or is Lt. Col. Larrington (retd.)'s PVR suffering from droid rot?  Coz the wretched thing recorded the pre-match waffle, the first half and the half-time waffle before switching itself off chiz >:(

You missed the best bit.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on March 27, 2016, 11:36:09 am
Indeed.  I know it's a game of two halves, Brian, but why anyone would only want to record half of it is a mystery to my Rugby-biased branez.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Von Broad on March 27, 2016, 12:25:57 pm
Blimey!

That's what I thought, although I wasn't even aware that they had been playing until just now. That will be revenge for 1970, then.

I seem to remember we had keeper problems of a different nature in that game too :-)

That was well enjoyable last night. Makes a change.
If everybody's fit [i'm not going there] Hodgson has lots of options in the summer.
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Post by: Basil on March 27, 2016, 02:34:58 pm
Come on Cambridge.  Let's have a 2-0 light blue wash.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on March 27, 2016, 02:39:10 pm
Boaty McBoatrace?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on March 27, 2016, 03:45:09 pm
Weather Drama in the wimmins race - opportinuty for the coxes to earn their pay travel expenses.

First time I've seen crews wrapped in space blankets as they disembark. Awesome contest.
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Post by: Basil on March 27, 2016, 03:48:13 pm
Bugger.
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Post by: mattc on March 27, 2016, 03:59:35 pm
oh, this is a spoiler thread is it. I hdant realised          :P

I'd rather have been on the wrong side of that contest than  this one:
www.eurosport.co.uk/rugby-league/oxford-crush-cambridge-in-varsity-match_sto5292524/story.shtml
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Post by: Wowbagger on March 27, 2016, 06:04:05 pm
Blimey!

That's what I thought, although I wasn't even aware that they had been playing until just now. That will be revenge for 1970, then.

I seem to remember we had keeper problems of a different nature in that game too :-)

That was well enjoyable last night. Makes a change.
If everybody's fit [i'm not going there] Hodgson has lots of options in the summer.
The biggest problem England had that day was Ramsey's decision to take Bobby Charlton off when England were 2 - 0 up. The Germans were terrified of him and in his absence they started to play football.

For his part, Charlton never played for England again.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Von Broad on March 28, 2016, 02:24:56 am
Blimey!

That's what I thought, although I wasn't even aware that they had been playing until just now. That will be revenge for 1970, then.

I seem to remember we had keeper problems of a different nature in that game too :-)

That was well enjoyable last night. Makes a change.
If everybody's fit [i'm not going there] Hodgson has lots of options in the summer.
The biggest problem England had that day was Ramsey's decision to take Bobby Charlton off when England were 2 - 0 up.

Manager's dilemma. Decisions are always going to be something of a gamble. Given the conditions [extreme heat] and Charlton being a senior player who you want fresh for the next game, and being 2-0 up, there was some logic to Ramsey's thinking.

I remember that tournament clear as daylight....it had quite an impact on me at the time....what with the hazy, grainy satellite images it was like watching something from another world.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on June 22, 2016, 08:10:21 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jun/22/swedish-footballer-sent-off-for-farting-during-match

Winding up the opposition?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on June 23, 2016, 08:19:32 am
Wilting flowers, that lot. If he had been a front-row forward there might have been a real reason, especially if he was playing downwind.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on June 23, 2016, 02:05:53 pm
The trouble is that when a front-row forward farts, the chief recipients are his own second row.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on June 23, 2016, 03:04:48 pm
Alas. In some circumstances it's difficult to aim.

I have heard of a penalty being awarded for blasphemy in the scrum, though.
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Post by: Wowbagger on June 23, 2016, 04:58:28 pm
Perhaps I was fortunate to go unpenalised.

When I was at college (many years ago!) our rugby pitch was alongside a tidal stream and was an area of partially-reclaimed salt marsh. At one end of the pitch it was - fragrant, as it were. I recall one scrum in which, as prop forward, my right foot cut a vertical furrow through the merde and I ended up flat on my face, covered with marshland. The referee and the rest of the players were so doubled up with laughter that when I informed my opposing loosehead that as much of my unwanted dressing as I could possibly manage was going to end up all over him at subsequent scrums everyone just took it as part of the fun.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on August 14, 2016, 08:01:34 pm
This is rather good, albeit from a fairly low level of rugby.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/37048459
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Post by: madcow on October 21, 2016, 03:53:54 am
RIP Gary Sprake. 500 + appearances for the mighty Whites under Don Revie and 30+ caps for Wales.
Not forgotten. MOT.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on October 21, 2016, 10:33:11 am
Certainly not forgotten, here.  Up there with Bruce Grobbelar as one of the most "accident-prone" goalies in British football.  I remember him hurling the ball into his own net once.  But he was a good goalie, nevertheless.  It's difficult to know just how good, though, because Leeds's outfield players usually maimed the opposition before they got anywhere near Sprake.  It was a horrid period.  It's a young age for a professional sportsman, so I wonder what the cause was.

RIP Gary - a great entertainer.

Ian Porterfield went too young, too - remember him?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on October 21, 2016, 10:42:43 am
Peter, that is a very mischievous last sentence!  ;D

But indeed, Sprake was a very good goalkeeper, most of the time. I seem to remember an entertainer, possibly Mike Yarwood, doing an impression of him.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on October 21, 2016, 11:26:01 am
It is a pity that two or three mishaps defined Sprake and overshadowed what was a long and distinguished career.
It is beyond doubt that Revie would have dropped him immediately if he thought his overall performance was suspect. Sprake kept David Harvey on the bench even though Harvey was eventually capped by Scotland.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on October 21, 2016, 11:40:36 am
This is rather good, albeit from a fairly low level of rugby.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/37048459

Not that low a level, Cambridge are in National 1.

Some great refereeing as well, I'm an ex-referee and spotted several penalty opportunities there, but he let Cambridge play their momentum.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on October 21, 2016, 11:46:50 am
It is a pity that two or three mishaps defined Sprake and overshadowed what was a long and distinguished career.
It is beyond doubt that Revie would have dropped him immediately if he thought his overall performance was suspect. Sprake kept David Harvey on the bench even though Harvey was eventually capped by Scotland.

Ah, David Harvey - he'll certainly remember Ian Porterfield.  The opposing goalkeeper was Jim Montgomery, who was better than either of them and it's a shame his career coincided with that of Gordon Banks.

But Gary was certainly good.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on October 21, 2016, 12:20:56 pm
It is a pity that two or three mishaps defined Sprake and overshadowed what was a long and distinguished career.
It is beyond doubt that Revie would have dropped him immediately if he thought his overall performance was suspect. Sprake kept David Harvey on the bench even though Harvey was eventually capped by Scotland.

I think most goalkeepers are remembered for the howlers they make. I have a memory, which may be inaccurate, of Sprake pulling off an amazing save from a Francis Lee penalty in one international match. There were few footballers who put as much welly into their penalties as Lee, and IIRC this one, after Sprake got a fist to it, hit the underside of the bar twice before finally rolling to safety.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 21, 2016, 12:29:12 pm
RIP Gary Sprake. 500 + appearances for the mighty Whites under Don Revie and 30+ caps for Wales.
Not forgotten. MOT.
Confused here. What does MOT mean in this context?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on October 21, 2016, 12:34:16 pm
Marching On Together. The title of a song that the  Leeds players recorded before the 1972 FA Cup Final.
It was the "B" side to "Leeds United". 
It's played before every home match and is the not so  secret sign off for LUFC fans.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 21, 2016, 01:13:31 pm
Thanks, I might go and see if I can find it on Youtube. It can't be any worse than the song Rod Hull and Emu made for Bristol Rovers' promotion to the Second Division in 1974 (that is on youtube, but you really don't want to hear it).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Deano on October 31, 2016, 10:39:08 pm
Darlo have been having some good results:

http://darlingtonfootballclub.co.uk/fixtures-results/

(take note of October the 15th, Nuncio and Salvatore ;D)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jakob on November 03, 2016, 06:55:42 pm
The Cubs win the World Series for the first time in 108 years!. One of the best games of baseball I've ever seen.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 03, 2016, 08:19:59 pm
I find it quite astonishing how the US continues to dominate world baseball.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jakob on November 03, 2016, 09:57:14 pm
Even in 1887, the sports press were prone to hyperbole and the name stuck around.
http://www.rose-hulman.edu/~rickert/BB/wsname.html

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on November 03, 2016, 10:44:15 pm
Legia Warszawa drawing 3-3 with Real in any empty stadium deserves some kind of  :o and possibly a bit of  :D. We'll see what happens in the Bernabeu though!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on November 04, 2016, 10:25:56 am
I find it quite astonishing how the US continues to dominate world baseball.

Be fair, Wowsa.  The Toronto Blue Jays have won the World Series at least once.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 15, 2016, 01:45:03 pm
I became aware last week that the World Chess Championship final is taking place in New York, between Carlsen and Karjakin. There have been three games so far, all drawn.

For the first game, defending champion Carlsen chose the Trompovski Attack, an unusual opening at this level. Interviewed afterwards, he said that it was because he is a great admirer of Donald Trump. Meanwhile, Karjakin (who sounds to me like a character from Grand Theft Auto) is a Putin fan*.

The human brain is a curious organ. At once, these two brain-owners can develop theirs to pretty much the highest level possible, whilst remaining remarkably stupid.

*Of course, he would be stupid to say anything different, given that he's Russian. Carlsen, being a Norwegian, has a choice.
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Post by: Cudzoziemiec on November 15, 2016, 01:59:23 pm
Wowbagger's account has been hacked! The chess talk is convincing but the real Wowbagger would never have heard of Grand Theft Auto.  :o ::-) :D :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 15, 2016, 04:36:48 pm
Wowbagger's account has been hacked! The chess talk is convincing but the real Wowbagger would never have heard of Grand Theft Auto.  :o ::-) :D :o

Au contraire, I have sons who play computer games. My younger son used to do this A Lot. Unreal Tournament was his forte (he got to a double-figure placement in the World Rankings at one time) but I think he used to play GTA for light relief.
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Post by: Dibdib on November 22, 2016, 12:48:17 pm
For those who enjoy American Football but don't have the ridiculously expensive Sky Sports packages to watch it, Sky are doing their occasional thing of putting a free game on Freeview this Thursday for Thanksgiving - Minnesota Vikings @ Detroit Lions, Pick TV, 5:30pm.
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Post by: trekker12 on November 22, 2016, 04:02:22 pm
Should be a good game that one. Detroit are playing better than they have for many years. Minnesota should have walked away with the NFC North by now based on how poorly (my team) the Packers are playing but with several serious injuries (not least to the starting quarterback before the season started) they have struggled. So for once I'm rooting for the Lions having given up all hope the Packers will make the Play-offs
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Post by: Dibdib on November 22, 2016, 09:22:32 pm
Yeah I'm a Packers fan too and I've given up as well. My only saving grace is that my best mate is a Bears fan, so I can still give him a ribbing  :demon:
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Post by: Andrij on November 22, 2016, 10:14:26 pm
Bah!  I'll make all of you American football fans feel great with only a few keystrokes:  I'm a Browns fan, born and bred.  :facepalm:
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Post by: Basil on November 22, 2016, 10:20:48 pm
Woof woof!
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Post by: trekker12 on November 23, 2016, 08:23:17 am
Bah!  I'll make all of you American football fans feel great with only a few keystrokes:  I'm a Browns fan, born and bred.  :facepalm:

That's great. I'm cheering for the Browns every time they appear on Sky's Redzone. Has anyone ever had 0-16?

What's the opposite of a perfect season called?
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Post by: Andrij on November 23, 2016, 09:00:05 am
I'd still call 0-16 a 'perfect' season as it's unblemished by a win.  ;D

I guess it's just balancing out the Cavaliers and Indians.
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Post by: Dibdib on November 23, 2016, 01:38:36 pm
Bah!  I'll make all of you American football fans feel great with only a few keystrokes:  I'm a Browns fan, born and bred.  :facepalm:

I'm so sorry.

 :demon:

Small consolation but it's not even like the Browns are playing like a 0-11 team, as far as I've seen. They just seem to be suffering a lot of bad luck.
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Post by: LEE on November 23, 2016, 01:56:12 pm
The Cubs win the World Series for the first time in 108 years!. One of the best games of baseball I've ever seen.

I saw a Minnesota Twins game where nobody scored a run for 6 innings.

To be honest Baseball and (American) Football struck me as vast participation eating events where, very occasionally, there was 5 seconds of frantic action.

Cricket gets a bad rap from the Americans but it's genuinely no slower or duller.  Watching Baseball and Football on UK TV shields you from the incessant commercial breaks which put the live game on hold, until the umpire gets a "Go" from the TV director.  It's unbearable.

Local Baseball (Rochester Aces in my case) is much better.  It's not televised so they are allowed to keep playing without waiting 3 minutes for the commercials to end.
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Post by: rafletcher on November 23, 2016, 02:08:31 pm
  Watching Baseball and Football on UK TV shields you from the incessant commercial breaks which put the live game on hold, until the umpire gets a "Go" from the TV director.  It's unbearable.


Agreed, and far too much time for those bloody "Mexican" waves.
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Post by: Wowbagger on November 23, 2016, 03:37:00 pm
  Watching Baseball and Football on UK TV shields you from the incessant commercial breaks which put the live game on hold, until the umpire gets a "Go" from the TV director.  It's unbearable.


Agreed, and far too much time for those bloody "Mexican" waves.

Never mind! Donald Trump will put a stop to those.
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Post by: trekker12 on November 23, 2016, 04:42:05 pm
I have tried watching baseball but do struggle. Which is odd because I enjoy the pace of a cricket match.

Having been to Wembley for the NFL for the past three years I find the TV interuptions go pretty much unnoticed. There's a smoothness to it that is not seen on TV in the UK because it goes to the studio and you get three minutes of talking heads. Three minutes is fairly extreme, I think in NFL they have got a fine art of chucking in a single advert during each game break (and they are less often than most non-fans realise). For the longer breaks - between quarters and two minute warnings etc they send a band or a troop of cheerleaders on to entertain. It's a good day out.

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Post by: Wowbagger on November 24, 2016, 03:31:49 pm
https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/carlsen-karjakin-world-chess-championship-2016/1/1/8

After 7 consecutive draws, Karjakin won the 8th game with black.

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/carlsen-karjakin-world-chess-championship-2016/1/1/8

The 9th was also drawn, so Carlsen is in serious trouble. He has three more games in which to get back into this.
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Post by: Wowbagger on November 25, 2016, 12:08:23 am
THe Kibitzers reckon this one is going to be drawn. At time of this post, White (Carlsen) had just played 51 f3.

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/carlsen-karjakin-world-chess-championship-2016/1/1/10
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Post by: Wowbagger on November 25, 2016, 10:31:17 am
Blimey! Carlsen managed to convert that to a win! Well done him! 1 - 1, 2 games to go.

Annoyingly, if they finish the first 12 games with the scores level, remaining games are at a much faster time limit.

https://www.fide.com/FIDE/handbook/regulations_match_2016.pdf refers.
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Post by: mattc on November 25, 2016, 11:34:28 am
I have tried watching baseball but do struggle. Which is odd because I enjoy the pace of a cricket match.
What are your feelings about chess?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on November 25, 2016, 11:44:54 am
I have tried watching baseball but do struggle. Which is odd because I enjoy the pace of a cricket match.

Having been to Wembley for the NFL for the past three years I find the TV interuptions go pretty much unnoticed. There's a smoothness to it that is not seen on TV in the UK because it goes to the studio and you get three minutes of talking heads. Three minutes is fairly extreme, I think in NFL they have got a fine art of chucking in a single advert during each game break (and they are less often than most non-fans realise). For the longer breaks - between quarters and two minute warnings etc they send a band or a troop of cheerleaders on to entertain. It's a good day out.

An average professional (American) football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes.

The average NFL game includes 20 commercial breaks containing more than 100 ads. The Journal’s analysis found that commercials took up about an hour, or one-third, of the game.
- Wall Street Journal.

I'd say that reflects my experience of watching it in the US.  Lots of standing around by players, lots of time spent changing teams (Offensive to defensive and vice-versa, plus Kicking teams).  Penalty flags and referrals to TV umpires on almost every single play.

I watched a couple of live games and one on TV.  The best way to watch it is via a Highlights show on TV, that cuts out everything but the 11 minutes of interest.

It's a game where the role of 75% of the massive players is to lunge forward 6 feet and fall on an equally massive person lunging the other way.  I mean that's all they do.  They make Rugby's Brian Moore look like a Ballet Dancer by comparison.

Netflix has, very quickly, changed American attitudes to the necessity of commercials during programs and NFL viewing is in serious decline..possibly because of this.
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Post by: citoyen on November 25, 2016, 12:02:38 pm
Bah!  I'll make all of you American football fans feel great with only a few keystrokes:  I'm a Browns fan, born and bred.  :facepalm:

I don't follow the sport any more but I just checked the standings... Crumbs!

Last time I paid any attention to gridiron, the Browns were quite a decent team. Mind you, there were only six divisions in those days and the Raiders were still based in LA.

I'm nominally a Miami Dolphins fan - have been ever since my dad brought me back a Dolphins T-shirt from a business trip to the US some time in the late 70s. I was around 6-7 at the time. I see they're currently sitting in what might be termed comfortable mid-table obscurity. When I visited Miami aged 16 we didn't get to see the Dolphins play as they were on the road that week but we did go to a Gators game at the Orange Bowl, which was brilliant - fast and furious compared to NFL, and with a lot more interesting tactical play (less cagey, more adventurous). I think the whole match was over inside 90 minutes.
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Post by: Andrij on November 25, 2016, 12:10:31 pm
Bah!  I'll make all of you American football fans feel great with only a few keystrokes:  I'm a Browns fan, born and bred.  :facepalm:

I don't follow the sport any more but I just checked the standings... Crumbs!

If you're bored, take a look at how many quarterbacks we've burned through in the last few years.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on November 27, 2016, 10:09:40 pm
50 years ago this month I was on the terraces with my dad watching this game.
https://youtu.be/Y4VQCysLRTo
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Post by: Wowbagger on November 27, 2016, 10:50:05 pm
What is that dirty mark down the front of the Arsenal players' shirts? It looks as though they have put them on back to front and ridden a bike with no mudguards.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: trekker12 on November 29, 2016, 04:44:44 pm
I have tried watching baseball but do struggle. Which is odd because I enjoy the pace of a cricket match.

Having been to Wembley for the NFL for the past three years I find the TV interuptions go pretty much unnoticed. There's a smoothness to it that is not seen on TV in the UK because it goes to the studio and you get three minutes of talking heads. Three minutes is fairly extreme, I think in NFL they have got a fine art of chucking in a single advert during each game break (and they are less often than most non-fans realise). For the longer breaks - between quarters and two minute warnings etc they send a band or a troop of cheerleaders on to entertain. It's a good day out.

An average professional (American) football game lasts 3 hours and 12 minutes, but if you tally up the time when the ball is actually in play, the action amounts to a mere 11 minutes.

The average NFL game includes 20 commercial breaks containing more than 100 ads. The Journal’s analysis found that commercials took up about an hour, or one-third, of the game.
- Wall Street Journal.

I'd say that reflects my experience of watching it in the US.  Lots of standing around by players, lots of time spent changing teams (Offensive to defensive and vice-versa, plus Kicking teams).  Penalty flags and referrals to TV umpires on almost every single play.

I watched a couple of live games and one on TV.  The best way to watch it is via a Highlights show on TV, that cuts out everything but the 11 minutes of interest.

It's a game where the role of 75% of the massive players is to lunge forward 6 feet and fall on an equally massive person lunging the other way.  I mean that's all they do.  They make Rugby's Brian Moore look like a Ballet Dancer by comparison.

Netflix has, very quickly, changed American attitudes to the necessity of commercials during programs and NFL viewing is in serious decline..possibly because of this.

Include in that rather limited statistical analysis. Half an hour for half time (1+ hour for superbowl half time show), ten minutes for each change of quarter and I tend to agree. My point was the live show is better than the TV, when you are there it seems to flow much better because it's not broken by TV adverts.

And 11 minutes of action is impossible. The clock is only running when there is action going on and that has to be 60 minutes. It is stopped during TV referals and penalty decisions - during which US TV goes to an ad break. So although at points it runs whilst players are in the huddle it's definitely not 49 minutes of players being in the huddle - which is also all part of the tactics by the way.

I will however, suggest you watch a game before judging so much. The subtle nuances of what's going on in the middle of the pack far outweigh the brute strength of a rugby maul (I like Rugby too by the way). the tactical switching of position, the skill required to catch a ball in bounds whilst momentum and a cornerback are trying to prevent you getting your feet down. All rolled into a show.

I'd rather sit through 3.5 hours of an NFL game than 90 minutes (plus half time) of a soccer match but we are all different.
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Post by: Wowbagger on December 01, 2016, 08:51:33 pm
I see that Carlsen successfully defended his title. I haven't seen the decisive games yet, but in the rapidplay tie-breaker he won 2 - 0 with 1 drawn.
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Post by: Andrij on December 03, 2016, 08:50:12 pm
I'd still call 0-16 a 'perfect' season as it's unblemished by a win.  ;D

I guess it's just balancing out the Cavaliers and Indians.

The perfect season will be celebrated. (https://www.facebook.com/events/922557464541565/)  ;D
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Post by: runsoncake on December 07, 2016, 12:31:33 pm
50 years ago this month I was on the terraces with my dad watching this game.
https://youtu.be/Y4VQCysLRTo

I missed that match but was there 6 weeks later when the Owls marmalised Chelsea 6 - 1.
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Post by: Andrij on December 08, 2016, 01:29:57 pm
I'd still call 0-16 a 'perfect' season as it's unblemished by a win.  ;D

I guess it's just balancing out the Cavaliers and Indians.

The perfect season will be celebrated. (https://www.facebook.com/events/922557464541565/)  ;D

And the organiser has now met with city officials, permits have been filed, etc. (http://fox8.com/2016/12/07/plans-for-cleveland-browns-perfect-season-parade-move-forward/)  Thousands are now counting on the team to make this happen.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: trekker12 on December 09, 2016, 12:47:43 pm
There's going to be a lot of disappointment if that doesn't happen.

Not sure the team will want to start throwing games though.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on December 09, 2016, 02:47:49 pm
The IOC have voted to recognize cheerleading as a sport. :facepalm:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on December 09, 2016, 02:59:22 pm
The IOC have voted to recognize cheerleading as a sport. :facepalm:
2016 continues to deliver
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Post by: mattc on December 09, 2016, 06:36:56 pm
As if corruption and drugs scandals aren't making the Olympics look stupid enough  ::-)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on December 11, 2016, 09:47:36 pm
50 years ago this month I was on the terraces with my dad watching this game.
https://youtu.be/Y4VQCysLRTo

I missed that match but was there 6 weeks later when the Owls marmalised Chelsea 6 - 1.

You picked the right game for goals.

The Spurs 1-0 game was the third we'd seen at Hillsborough. The other  were 0-0 draws against Nottingham Forest and West Ham.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on December 24, 2016, 09:25:21 pm
I'd still call 0-16 a 'perfect' season as it's unblemished by a win.  ;D

I guess it's just balancing out the Cavaliers and Indians.

The perfect season will be celebrated. (https://www.facebook.com/events/922557464541565/)  ;D

And the organiser has now met with city officials, permits have been filed, etc. (http://fox8.com/2016/12/07/plans-for-cleveland-browns-perfect-season-parade-move-forward/)  Thousands are now counting on the team to make this happen.  :thumbsup:

The barstewards have ruined a perfect season by winning a game.  >:(
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on January 03, 2017, 01:57:15 pm
York City fooball club have outdone themselves by losing to North Ferriby (a village team from near the humber)

This is the same football club that would like the council to stump up xx million for a new stadium.
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Post by: matthew on January 03, 2017, 02:20:01 pm
I'd still call 0-16 a 'perfect' season as it's unblemished by a win.  ;D

I guess it's just balancing out the Cavaliers and Indians.

The perfect season will be celebrated. (https://www.facebook.com/events/922557464541565/)  ;D

And the organiser has now met with city officials, permits have been filed, etc. (http://fox8.com/2016/12/07/plans-for-cleveland-browns-perfect-season-parade-move-forward/)  Thousands are now counting on the team to make this happen.  :thumbsup:

The barstewards have ruined a perfect season by winning a game.  >:(

Then they nearly made it two on the bounce but somehow contrived to retain their first choice draft pick.
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Post by: Wowbagger on January 03, 2017, 03:26:47 pm
York City fooball club have outdone themselves by losing to North Ferriby (a village team from near the humber)

This is the same football club that would like the council to stump up xx million for a new stadium.
That really is quite splendid. I didn't know which league they were in. A couple of seasons ago they were vying with Saarfend in some league division or another.
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Post by: Wowbagger on January 03, 2017, 09:23:03 pm
There is a bit of a game taking place at the Vitality* Stadium.

*No, I'd never heard of it either.
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Post by: Basil on January 03, 2017, 09:33:43 pm
I remember York, Darlo and HardlyPoo Untied all being in league Division Bottom.  I stopped off in York for a pint the time I rode up from Brum to watch a couple of Easter matches.  I fell into company, as you do, with a bunch who, although deemed me a complete wanker for being a Pools fan, insisted on supplying me with many pints for the riding there thing.   :D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on January 07, 2017, 11:23:49 pm
A good result today for League 1 Millwallies, who beat Premiership Bournemouth 3 - 0 int'cup.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 10, 2017, 10:04:27 am
16 groups of 3 in the 2026 World Cup. And then presumably 2 out of 3 go through to the next round? It doesn't sound too rigorous. And it's going to need a lot of venues.
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Post by: Wowbagger on January 10, 2017, 10:42:27 am
I suppose it will need half the venues of 16 groups of 4, but the same number of rounds.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 10, 2017, 10:48:06 am
And a new shiny Confederations Cup with 32 clubs every two years. I can see that being good for the smaller confederations but getting a bit of a drag for Europe and LAm.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on January 16, 2017, 07:05:37 am
Brian Fletcher ,who died late last week ,was one of only 3 jockies who won the Grand National three times.
He was won on Red Rum twice , but was replaced by Tommy Stack when RR completed the hat-trick.
He was a very distant relative of mine, by marriage.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: trekker12 on January 17, 2017, 09:24:18 am
having given up all hope the Packers will make the Play-offs

Seems I wrote them off too early
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 18, 2017, 08:07:23 pm
In some magazine in the hairdressers I read about Forest Green Rovers planned new all-wood, eco-friendly stadium. Which won't be in Forest Green. The mock up made it look rather larger than the 5,000 capacity stated in the text.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Vince on February 06, 2017, 08:46:13 am
Watching the American Football this morning, I gave up trying to stay awake at end of the third quarter with the score a fairly dominant 28 - 3 to Atlanta...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on February 06, 2017, 11:01:32 am
Watching the American Football this morning, I gave up trying to stay awake at end of the third quarter with the score a fairly dominant 28 - 3 to Atlanta...

I went to bed at the two minute warning in the first half. It was a bit of a shock when I checked the BBC sport website this morning.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on February 06, 2017, 11:06:16 am
Watching the American Football this morning, I gave up trying to stay awake at end of the third quarter with the score a fairly dominant 28 - 3 to Atlanta...

(stolen off Twitter)

Best first half performance by Atlanta since Gone with the Wind.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: trekker12 on February 06, 2017, 11:16:17 am
I went to bed at half time and put the radio on. I was awoken at around 3am by some very excitable commentary. Was quite a shock. Amazing game. The wrong team won though.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on February 06, 2017, 11:41:41 am
(also stolen off Twitter)

Atlanta hasn't taken it in the shorts this bad since General Sherman taught some lessons.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on February 06, 2017, 11:49:49 am
Spesh, do you think you could change your avatar?  it's pretty upsetting to have to look at that everytime you post!

Peter
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on February 16, 2017, 08:21:58 am
My dad is having a birthday with a 0 at the end this year, so I've pushed the boat out and got tickets to take him to Eng v SA at the Oval.

Had hoped to go on the Saturday but the Surrey online booking office doesn't have two tickets together anywhere in the ground for Saturday.

Found tickets available from Viagogo. Cheapest ones were £120 but that's not too much of a markup on the face value so pop them in the basket and click checkout...

Whoa! That's £120 EACH?!?!??!! And that's before all the extra 'booking fees' and postage charges? Fuck that for a game of soldiers.

Ended up going back to the Surrey website and getting tickets for the Thursday (day 1) - much better tickets, in fact, for about half the price.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on February 27, 2017, 02:16:37 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/02/27/crystal-palace-fans-accidentally-vandalise-team-bus/

Paul Nuttalls of the UKIPs thinks that instead of travelling to Middlesbrough to vandalise their team bus, they should stay at home and vandalise their own.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on February 28, 2017, 11:53:04 pm
Bristol Rovers have drawn their last 5 games.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on March 04, 2017, 09:35:31 am
RIP John "Jack" Hampshire-the first English batsman to score a century on his Test debut at Lords.
A player in the great Yorkshire side that won the County Championship for 3 years on the trot in the late 60's, he scored 21,979 runs in games for the county.



Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on March 06, 2017, 09:36:56 pm
I remember that innings. He looked very good and it was a great disappointment that that innings constituted more than 25% of his career test total.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on March 07, 2017, 06:07:10 pm
I thought it was amusing the way Laura Muir dodged the official to do her lap of honour in Belgrade the other day. And bizarre that it was reported as a thing on Polish news but I haven't seen it here.  ???
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on March 08, 2017, 01:07:46 pm
I thought it was amusing the way Laura Muir dodged the official to do her lap of honour in Belgrade the other day. And bizarre that it was reported as a thing on Polish news but I haven't seen it here.  ???
Was this an Olympic race?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on March 08, 2017, 01:23:47 pm
34th European Athletics Indoor Championships, apparently, though it looked outside to me. Maybe they had a roof over the arena though.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on March 08, 2017, 02:41:29 pm
It's very unusual for British news to cover anything below World Championships in Athletics. Even rarer for indoor stuff.

(Unless there's a doping allegation  ::-)  )
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on March 08, 2017, 09:16:51 pm
It was covered on BBC news and then later on more coverage of the championshps
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on March 09, 2017, 11:28:01 am
It was covered on BBC news and then later on more coverage of the championshps
Any comment on this Cudzo?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on March 09, 2017, 12:25:39 pm
Good!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on March 10, 2017, 03:51:50 pm
We don't have a thread for "Weird and macabre sports things that don't really warrant a thread of their own" so this will have to go here.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/mar/10/bruno-goalkeeper-murder-brazil-comeback

I have read some weird, disturbing shit in my time on this planet, but that one is way up their with the weirdest and most disturbing.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on March 11, 2017, 04:28:04 pm
Why do commentators always refer to some sports person's leg or wrist or whatever as being "heavily strapped"?  It never looks more than just strapping to me.  Seems impossible for anyone to say strapping or strapped without the word heavy or heavily.
Owen Farrell today.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on April 06, 2017, 04:43:30 pm
The Masters starts today  :thumbsup:

I put me a couple of quid on Rory, I reckon he can complete the slam...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on April 06, 2017, 08:36:10 pm
Why do commentators always refer to some sports person's leg or wrist or whatever as being "heavily strapped"?  It never looks more than just strapping to me.  Seems impossible for anyone to say strapping or strapped without the word heavy or heavily.
Owen Farrell today.

Yes, it's like weather forecasts: you never get spots without spits or mist without mirk (or forecast without wrong).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on April 10, 2017, 12:38:21 am
The Masters starts today  :thumbsup:

I put me a couple of quid on Rory, I reckon he can complete the slam...

I'm so, so happy that Sergio has finally won a major. Top lad :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 22, 2017, 09:22:34 pm
My son in law has few faults, but one of those he does have is to be a Chelsea supporter. However, I am prepared to go some way towards forgiving him this as it led to me watching a good deal of today's FA Cup semifinal, which I would have otherwise ignored. An excellent game including two outstanding goals, Tottenham's second being the best I have seen for a long time.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on April 22, 2017, 11:51:26 pm
112 years in the Football League and it's farewell to Leyton Orient, thanks entirely to their dicknozzle owner.  My grate frend Mr Sheen, an Os fan since forever, is about to commit murder.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Salvatore on April 23, 2017, 10:37:56 am
112 years in the Football League and it's farewell to Leyton Orient, thanks entirely to their dicknozzle owner.  My grate frend Mr Sheen, an Os fan since forever, is about to commit murder.

Leyton Orient: a club in decline (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zif0NAM_Fws). All you need to know in 4 minutes 50 seconds.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on April 23, 2017, 10:57:14 am
112 years in the Football League and it's farewell to Leyton Orient, thanks entirely to their dicknozzle owner.  My grate frend Mr Sheen, an Os fan since forever, is about to commit murder.

Looks like Hartle poo Untied will be joining them.  Desperately sad for my FiL, lifetime.....blah blah blah

Won't be their first time though.  One of Hartlepool's "Honours" is - Most re-elections to the old fourth division.

For younger viewers, in the olden days, the bottom club in the 4th was relegated (one only, in those days), but there was no automatic promotion into the league.  Instead, a vote was held by the football league chairmen on who should be promoted.  Very often, this would be the same club that had supposedly been 'relegated'.1
Old boys networks and brown envelopes stuffed with promises, no doubt.

1 I believe this is how it worked in general.  I haven't actually checked it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 23, 2017, 08:08:08 pm
It was known as "seeking re-election" and mostly IIRC it was Newport County.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on April 23, 2017, 08:27:59 pm
You sure?  Hardly Poo peeps seem to think that they hold the record.
Again, I can't​ be arsed to check the validity of this claim.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 23, 2017, 08:31:41 pm
No, I am not at all sure. But they always seemed to be Down There, alongside Bradford Park Avenue.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 23, 2017, 08:38:07 pm
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Re-election_(Football_League)#Fourth_Division

Much more interesting geekiness than knowing FA Cup winners.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on April 23, 2017, 09:35:51 pm
The house across the road from me appears to be on fire! It also has a Fire Engine outside.

Moved to appropriate thread
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 23, 2017, 09:50:41 pm
The house across the road from me appears to be on fire! It also has a Fire Engine outside.

Is fire raising classed as a sport in Cumbria?  :P
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on April 23, 2017, 10:07:27 pm
Well it was one of the 'random thread for' threads family. Pretty close for someone who's too lazy to read the thread titles ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on April 24, 2017, 09:40:29 am
One of my schoolfriends was a Hartelpool fan (no idea why) and he told me the same fact[?] about re-election. That was waaaaaaaaaay back in the 1980s so it must be some sort of ur ban leg end by now.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on April 24, 2017, 04:01:08 pm
The house across the road from me appears to be on fire! It also has a Fire Engine outside.

Is fire raising classed as a sport in Cumbria?  :P

Someone mentioned Arson and he thought they were referring to the Arsenal manager perhaps.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on April 24, 2017, 04:46:49 pm
For younger viewers, in the olden days, the bottom club in the 4th was relegated (one only, in those days), but there was no automatic promotion into the league.  Instead, a vote was held by the football league chairmen on who should be promoted.  Very often, this would be the same club that had supposedly been 'relegated'.1
Old boys networks and brown envelopes stuffed with promises, no doubt.

1 I believe this is how it worked in general.  I haven't actually checked it.

I have mixed feelings about the election system. I grew up supporting Maidstone United and was gutted when they failed to get elected to the league after winning the Conference in 1984. It seemed most unjust to the 11yo me!

After that, a new owner came in and spent a few quid on players, as well as promising to build a swanky new ground. Unfortunately, he never got planning permission for it, but this didn't stop him selling off the old ground to developers.

By the time they won the title again in 1989, the system had changed to automatic promotion, so they were guaranteed a place in the Fourth Division. And they managed to stay there for three years. However, this was only achieved with reckless spending by the owner. Add to that the fact that they were playing their home games at Dartford and it's amazing the club survived as long as it did - folded in 1992.

Looking back on it, I feel the election system might have kept the club where it belonged, in the Conference, and maybe prevented the owner from overreaching himself.

There's no doubt the system was hugely corrupt though!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 24, 2017, 05:04:48 pm
This is the issue currently facing Saarfend, and has done so for 20 years or more. Rapacious owner with very dodgy background wants to build a supermarket on the existing ground's site and build a 26000 seat stadium out of town. The ground's current site is within easy walking distance of lots of housing whereas the proposed site is quite a distance from any housing. Besides, it must be quite a few years since Southend attracted a crowd in excess of 10000. I feel sure that any new stadium, unless built on the existing site, would be the death of the club.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on April 24, 2017, 05:28:09 pm
This is the issue currently facing Saarfend, and has done so for 20 years or more. Rapacious owner with very dodgy background wants to build a supermarket on the existing ground's site and build a 26000 seat stadium out of town. The ground's current site is within easy walking distance of lots of housing whereas the proposed site is quite a distance from any housing. Besides, it must be quite a few years since Southend attracted a crowd in excess of 10000. I feel sure that any new stadium, unless built on the existing site, would be the death of the club.

Brighton & Hove FC did OK after moving out of the city to the outskirts. 
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 24, 2017, 06:13:42 pm
This is the issue currently facing Saarfend, and has done so for 20 years or more. Rapacious owner with very dodgy background wants to build a supermarket on the existing ground's site and build a 26000 seat stadium out of town. The ground's current site is within easy walking distance of lots of housing whereas the proposed site is quite a distance from any housing. Besides, it must be quite a few years since Southend attracted a crowd in excess of 10000. I feel sure that any new stadium, unless built on the existing site, would be the death of the club.

Brighton & Hove FC did OK after moving out of the city to the outskirts.

I just looked at a map. Brighton's new ground is very close to a station and a major dual carriageway. Southend's existing ground has those advantages but the proposed site does not.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on April 24, 2017, 06:32:17 pm
It's a similar story with Bristol Rovers, who wanted to sell their present ground, which was built as a memorial to rugby players killed in the First World War, to Sainsburys and build a newer bigger slicker one further out of town, though still in north Bristol. When Big S failed to get planning permission for their vendodrome they were able to cancel the deal, leaving the Pirates all at sea, or at least stuck in the same old stadium with the same empty pockets.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on April 24, 2017, 06:34:02 pm
Brighton & Hove FC did OK after moving out of the city to the outskirts.

Up to a point, Lord Copper. They very nearly went under in similar circumstances to Maidstone in the late 90s, and it was only a rich fan (Dick Knight) stepping in to buy the club that saved them from liquidation.

The old board had sold off the Goldstone before Knight took over, to service the massive debts they had racked up - though I doubt it would have been fit to continue playing football there much longer anyway. I remember it already being in a pretty appalling state when I went to see the FA Cup match there between Brighton and Liverpool in 1983(?). They didn't get the new stadium until 2011. Before that, they'd played a couple of seasons at Gillingham's ground, and then moved to the Withdean, which was a converted athletics stadium and barely fit to host professional football matches. It's incredible that they managed to avoid going under, and largely down to two reasons: Bobby Zamora and Peter Taylor.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on April 24, 2017, 11:05:05 pm
http://southendnewsnetwork.com/news/shocking-footage-shows-thousands-of-white-people-chasing-group-of-black-men-around-london/

Superb!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on May 02, 2017, 12:54:40 pm
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/05/01/seductive-dress-forces-girl-to-quit-malaysia-chess-tournament-coach-says.html

(now, obviously I had a small titter about this at first glance, but it's actually quite a sad story - she's only 12  :-\ )
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 02, 2017, 01:09:28 pm
That's a really sad story and I suspect there is either a terribly misogynistic or religious background to this.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on May 03, 2017, 10:28:44 am
I can't speak for Malaysian chess, but the misogyny in British chess was one of the principle reasons my daughters don't play any more.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: woollypigs on May 06, 2017, 01:14:52 pm
Marathon in two hours, I can't cycle that fast!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on May 06, 2017, 05:26:44 pm
Turns out they can't run that fast, either!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on May 28, 2017, 09:01:20 am
I see that Exeter beat Wasps to win a rugby final and that Tomos Francis was a key player in Exeter's victory. He a relative of yours, isn't he, pcolbeck?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 29, 2017, 05:26:52 pm
Come ON Town!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on May 29, 2017, 05:35:51 pm
Come ON Town!

Wot?
Oh, I see.
Reading is the only football team that I negatively support.  I never want them to get into the higher divisions because my aged mum lives there and would prefer less crowds on a Saturday.
Although, to be fair, as she is now 93, she doesn't do the hanging about in town on a Saturday so much these days.  So it probably doesn't matter so much now.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on May 29, 2017, 06:00:24 pm
There you go.   :thumbsup:
Glad I could help.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on May 29, 2017, 06:02:18 pm
Thanks Basil. Another Happy Terrier here too :D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on May 29, 2017, 07:57:02 pm
They stole our kit.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on July 21, 2017, 04:16:29 pm
I notice Thomas Pieters is moving up the leaderboard quite nicely at The Open. I rather hope he continues, as if he wins I will win a grand from the small bet I put on him about 9 months ago. Come on Tom!  :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on July 23, 2017, 03:30:14 pm
Fuck, he's going to have to play better than Kim Jong Il now...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Tim Hall on August 24, 2017, 11:40:30 am
I'm dot watching the Clipper Round The World race, on account of my cousin being on board on of the boats. Unfortunately they seem to be in the nautical equivalent of the Lanterne Rouge position.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on August 27, 2017, 09:30:22 pm
Which presumably is lanterne blanche.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on August 27, 2017, 10:12:24 pm
I don't watch football very often these days but I went to the pub with my son this afternoon to watch Liverpool vs Arsenal, and what I want to know is this...

When did Arsenal become so awful? That was a truly abject display.

Liverpool were on top form, and thrilling to watch, but Arsenal essentially just rolled over and let Liverpool tear into them. To be honest, the 4-0 scoreline was flattering to Arsenal. It should have been 10-0.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on August 28, 2017, 02:41:13 am
I don't watch football very often these days but I went to the pub with my son this afternoon to watch Liverpool vs Arsenal, and what I want to know is this...

When did Arsenal become so awful?

1980, when Liam Brady went to Juventus :demon:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on August 28, 2017, 11:03:37 am
When did Arsenal become so awful?

When they let Patrick Viera go and never replaced him.

Viera was immense in midfield, a proper captain.  They've been on a fairly steady decline ever since.

The club's finances are in great shape, and that seems to be a worthwhile objective, but saving millions on players whilst missing out on the millions from the Champions League isn't such great economics.

Wenger was visibly shaking yesterday.  I think it's taking its toll on him and he should have left on the FA Cup high last year. 
He faces the possibility of his amazing legacy being overshadowed by jeers and taunts from the fans.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on August 30, 2017, 03:44:02 pm
Controversy in Pembrokeshire Division One Cricket League.

It just so happened that the teams in first and second place in the league table played each other on the last day of the season.
It's important to know that in this division there are 20 points for the win, a bowling point for every two wickets taken and a batting point for every 40 runs (to a max of 5)

Carew began the day 21 points ahead of local rivals Cresselly.

Carew went into bat first but then declared on 18 for 1 after 15 balls, thus throwing the match but denying Cresselly any chance of bonus points.

Carew win the league by one point.  Cresselly not happy. Much discussion in my local.

What do you think?  A sensible and logical tactic?  Or JUST NOT CRICKET?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on August 30, 2017, 04:04:05 pm
hee-hee! I love stuff like this.

I'd say it's a badly thought-out rule. Cricket isn't about "bonus points", so it can't be "NOT CRICKET" to deny your opponents the chance of them. Shirley??
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on August 30, 2017, 06:11:18 pm
Controversy in Pembrokeshire Division One Cricket League.

It just so happened that the teams in first and second place in the league table played each other on the last day of the season.
It's important to know that in this division there are 20 points for the win, a bowling point for every two wickets taken and a batting point for every 40 runs (to a max of 5)

Carew began the day 21 points ahead of local rivals Cresselly.

Carew went into bat first but then declared on 18 for 1 after 15 balls, thus throwing the match but denying Cresselly any chance of bonus points.

Carew win the league by one point.  Cresselly not happy. Much discussion in my local.

What do you think?  A sensible and logical tactic?  Or JUST NOT CRICKET?

It's not cricket. They didn't play any!

Avid readers may recall that Ian Botham did something similar in a Bensons & Hedges 1-day match once. It was in the qualifying group, and from memory he declared the Somerset innings closed. I can't remember who the opponents were, but it meant that the only way they could beat Somerset in the group's final table was by getting a faster overall run rate than theirs, and just scoring 4 runs (or whatever) to win was not going to do this.

I don't remember whether he was reprimanded by the TCCB, but he bloody well should have been. Lots of people had travelled a long way and paid a lot of money to watch that match.

Edit: I've half-remembered again. Brian Rose was the captain in that match, and Somerset were expelled from the competition. It was 1979 and Essex won the B & H cup that year. Wiki doesn't reveal who Somerset's opponents were in the match in question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Rose_(cricketer)

Ah! Worcestershire! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Benson_%26_Hedges_Cup
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on August 30, 2017, 08:02:38 pm
I have less sympathy for Cresselly now as I've since learned that they won the toss.  Surely they must have been aware of the mathematics before the match. 
If they had chosen to bat, they would have had a chance to win and win the league by picking up two more bonus points than their opponents.
Poor decision.

Of course,  they may have lost the match.  But so what?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on August 30, 2017, 08:32:19 pm
You could argue that Carew had earned the right to game the system by virtue of being 21 points ahead going into the match. Presumably both sides knew the rules at the start of the season and their relative positions were a reflection of their performance throughout the season.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on August 31, 2017, 11:46:39 am
Some of the rules of cricket are ridiculous and the rules of that competition are crazy. They make away goals rules and penalty shootouts look entirely simple.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on August 31, 2017, 12:19:28 pm
Some of the rules of cricket are ridiculous

Outrageous statement!  :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on September 06, 2017, 06:44:17 pm
You could argue that Carew had earned the right to game the system by virtue of being 21 points ahead going into the match. Presumably both sides knew the rules at the start of the season and their relative positions were a reflection of their performance throughout the season.

I have stopped bing amazed at sports professionals not knowing the rules of the game they play for a living.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on September 07, 2017, 05:13:29 am
I passed a Cook Underwood Road this afternoon.  I wonder whether by any chance it was named after a pair of English cricketers?

["No" - Ed.]
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on September 07, 2017, 08:21:23 am
You could argue that Carew had earned the right to game the system by virtue of being 21 points ahead going into the match. Presumably both sides knew the rules at the start of the season and their relative positions were a reflection of their performance throughout the season.

I thin it happens fairly often that a team in the football play-offs finishes sixth, a cricket score of points behind the team in third, then goes on to win the play-offs and gain promotion.  It could be argued one way that they have been much worse over the season and so shouldn't be promoted and the other that they are the form team at the time and should be promoted.  I don't like the system but it's really about maximising income, I think.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on September 16, 2017, 04:58:10 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/sep/16/new-zealand-south-africa-rugby-championship-all-blacks-irresistible-record-defeat-report

That will hurt...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: JonBuoy on September 27, 2017, 12:46:39 pm
Controversy in Pembrokeshire Division One Cricket League.

It just so happened that the teams in first and second place in the league table played each other on the last day of the season.
It's important to know that in this division there are 20 points for the win, a bowling point for every two wickets taken and a batting point for every 40 runs (to a max of 5)

Carew began the day 21 points ahead of local rivals Cresselly.

Carew went into bat first but then declared on 18 for 1 after 15 balls, thus throwing the match but denying Cresselly any chance of bonus points.

Carew win the league by one point.  Cresselly not happy. Much discussion in my local.

What do you think?  A sensible and logical tactic?  Or JUST NOT CRICKET?


PCCC have decided that it was just not cricket.

Carew Cricket Club relegated after 'unfair' win over title rivals (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-41404646)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on September 27, 2017, 01:17:49 pm
Controversy in Pembrokeshire Division One Cricket League.

It just so happened that the teams in first and second place in the league table played each other on the last day of the season.
It's important to know that in this division there are 20 points for the win, a bowling point for every two wickets taken and a batting point for every 40 runs (to a max of 5)

Carew began the day 21 points ahead of local rivals Cresselly.

Carew went into bat first but then declared on 18 for 1 after 15 balls, thus throwing the match but denying Cresselly any chance of bonus points.

Carew win the league by one point.  Cresselly not happy. Much discussion in my local.

What do you think?  A sensible and logical tactic?  Or JUST NOT CRICKET?


PCCC have decided that it was just not cricket.

Carew Cricket Club relegated after 'unfair' win over title rivals (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-41404646)

Well, I think that is rather harsh.  I was originally in the "Just Not Cricket" camp, but the club were playing within the rules.  Technically they won through clever tactics, regardless of the fact that many, including myself, were not happy about it.
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Officials said Carew did not technically break any rules, but the complaints led to the creation of a four-man disciplinary committee which looked into the team's actions.

It decided to relegate Carew to Division Two but allowed them to remain as champions.

The team's captain has also been told he is banned from starting the 2018 season, and the club was also fined £300.


Those sanctions are totally disproportionate. 
Perhaps a 'fine' of 10 points for 'unsportsmanlike behavior' would have been better?  But relegation, fine and a player ban is really going to hurt a small local village team.

 I say again that Cresselly were fools themselves when having won the toss, they put Carew in to bat when it should have been obvious what could happen.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on September 27, 2017, 02:21:23 pm
It might be just not cricket but if it's within the rules then it's the rules that need to change.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Von Broad on October 23, 2017, 09:02:34 pm
Marty Feldman would have loved this  :D classic
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41728826
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on October 24, 2017, 11:30:15 am
Thanks!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: harvey on November 04, 2017, 05:46:10 pm
Yesterday, went to the Paris Masters ATP mainly to see Nadal take on promising upstart Krajinović but disappointingly Rafa pulled out w/knee problem. Isner v Del Potro was a terrific match. Titans on court with Isner at 6'10 and Del Potro a measly 6'6. Serves were mostly in the 225km/h range, and many aces. Both played really well and could have gone either way; but Isner was in great form and won the day. Doubles match with Jamie Murray/Soares v Hubert/Mahut was exciting and close. Tennis takes on new excitement when les bleaus are in front of the home crowd. But Jamie/Soares pulled it off and everyone went 'pfff' and left.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 12, 2017, 02:13:29 pm
Yesterday, in League 2, 9 of the 11 fixtures included a club whose name began with the letter C - in one case, the second word of the club name. No "C" club played another.

How many times a season does that happen?  ;)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 14, 2017, 10:09:59 am
Shock horror!

Italy has failed to qualify for the World Cup!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: madcow on November 17, 2017, 10:45:46 pm
The perfect job for someone
 https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Blue-Penguin-SEO/jobs/Sport-Banter-Expert-32752dcec31d0a3a?q=part+time (https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Blue-Penguin-SEO/jobs/Sport-Banter-Expert-32752dcec31d0a3a?q=part+time)
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Post by: mattc on November 18, 2017, 08:02:46 am
The perfect job for someone
 https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Blue-Penguin-SEO/jobs/Sport-Banter-Expert-32752dcec31d0a3a?q=part+time (https://www.indeed.co.uk/cmp/Blue-Penguin-SEO/jobs/Sport-Banter-Expert-32752dcec31d0a3a?q=part+time)

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If you're interested in this role please email in with your CV and your funniest joke

Anyone got an outrageous CV to hand? I'm sure we can find an appaling joke in https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=403.0

This company may get deluged with "funny" stuff :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on November 18, 2017, 05:15:51 pm
Congratulations to Sunderland who, I am reliably informed by lifelong supporter My Mate Terry Who Art In Sibton and whose house I am currently in, have today broken an all time Football League record by failing to win at home in 20 matches.

Correction: this seems to be a record covering all competitions, not just the League.

http://www.sportbible.com/football/fails-sunderland-break-record-for-the-longest-home-winless-streak-20171118 refers.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on November 29, 2017, 02:55:17 pm
The official poster for the Russian world cup 2018 has been launched and it's actually rather good.
(https://bis.gazeta.pl/im/61/a8/15/z22710113Q.jpg)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on January 06, 2018, 01:27:19 pm
Bah!  I'll make all of you American football fans feel great with only a few keystrokes:  I'm a Browns fan, born and bred.  :facepalm:

I don't follow the sport any more but I just checked the standings... Crumbs!

If you're bored, take a look at how many quarterbacks we've burned through in the last few years.

Just in case anyone missed it, the Cleveland Browns managed a perfect season: 0-16!  There's even a Perfect Season Parade (http://www.brownsparade.com/) taking place today.   ;D

ETA: parade report (https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2018/1/6/16857456/cleveland-browns-perfect-0-16-season-parade).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on January 15, 2018, 09:32:42 am
Are there any Everton fans round these parts? I'd be interested to know your thoughts on your current manager.

Personally, I can't stand "Big" Sam. A hugely overrated manager who never seems to get any enjoyment out of football, every time I hear him being interviewed he seems to be moaning about something - and always blaming others for their faults while refusing to recognise his own shortcomings as a manager. What's more, he comes across as a pretty awful person too, and that Panorama expose of his corruption didn't do him any favours either.

If you look at his track record, his main strengths as a manager appear to be bringing up teams from lower divisions and avoiding relegation. Everton fit neither situation. They're a once great club with a tradition of playing entertaining football. They're not in danger of relegation, and the best they can hope to achieve under Allardyce is maintaining their current mid-table obscurity. For which he will no doubt blame someone else.

I don't know why I'm so angry about this - I'm not an Everton fan myself, I just can't stand that man and can't fathom how he still manages to find employment in the top tier of domestic football.

Everton fans must look at what's going on across the park and weep. I don't think you could find two more contrasting management styles than Allardyce and Klopp. Can anyone imagine an Allardyce side ever being involved in a game like that between Liverpool and City yesterday?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on January 15, 2018, 09:47:45 am
LFC fan, which obviously means I have an opinion. ;)
Everton appointed "Big Sam" because they were worried about getting sucked into a relegation battle (they were 17th? when he joined), and because they couldn't get hold of their first few choices. They won a few games after he was appointed, and given the state of the table that meant they shot up from near relegation to somewhere around 9th. After getting knocked out of the FA cup they have nothing left to play for, and the Everton match going fan is going to have to watch another 15 games of that rubbish! I can't see them keeping him in the summer if they can get someone good.

Their "tradition" of playing football is somewhat overstated though - Koeman played dire football, and they had Moyes for 10 years prior to Martinez. Part of the problem is that they need to tear up the squad - with the exception of a couple of youngsters they are the best walking football team in the world!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on January 15, 2018, 10:43:55 am
LFC fan, which obviously means I have an opinion. ;)

Same here. ;)

I just remember the glory days of the 80s when Merseyside basically had the two best teams in Europe. And I genuinely feel sorry for the current state Everton find themselves in.

You're right that their situation is the result of many years of poor management, and not Allardyce's fault, but I really don't think he's the man to turn it around for them and hiring him was a backward, negative step. Despite their league position when he took over, I don't think they were in real danger of relegation - the margins are so tight down there than it only takes one or two good results for a side to shoot up the table.

I'm under no illusions about Liverpool's situation either though - Klopp is a wonderful manager, I just adore his infectious enthusiasm for the game, and as an attacking force, his side is incredible, but they haven't had a decent keeper or back four for years and they'll never return to truly competing with the best sides in Europe (or even in the Premier League) until they sort that out.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on January 15, 2018, 11:07:46 am
You say that the keeper is an issue but if Mignolet is the problem then Karius isn't the answer. Maybe Ward is? In any case Liverpool players seem to be held to a higher standard than those of other teams. Man City's Ederson is considered a top keeper but if Mignolet or Karius had made the error that led to the fourth Liverpool goal people would be advocating that they be be strung up from a lamp post.

As for Everton, as another LFC fan I'm sad to see their decline.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Marco Stefano on January 15, 2018, 12:57:18 pm
It's a good thing for Worcester Valkyries that there is no relegation yet from the Tyrrells Premier 15s (women's rugby, for those not in the know); Saracens Women 105, Worcester Valkyries 0.

They were better than in the first match-up at Worcester, but with a young & inexperienced team against Sarries' many internationals it's a problem. They kept battling, though; keep your heads up, Worcester.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on January 15, 2018, 02:06:32 pm


I just remember the glory days of the 80s when Merseyside basically had the two best teams in Europe.

Blimey! I never knew Tranmere were that good.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on January 15, 2018, 03:19:03 pm


I just remember the glory days of the 80s when Merseyside basically had the two best teams in Europe.

Blimey! I never knew Tranmere were that good.

My chemistry teacher, a purebred scouser, often told us that the three best football teams in the world were Liverpool, Everton and Tranmere, but not necessarily in that order.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on January 15, 2018, 04:12:43 pm
Strange little incident at a PSG/whoever match when a player accidentally collided with the ref, who then tried to take him down, failed, and gave him a yellow card instead. Ref suspended.

Funny buggers these footballers.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: JenM on January 15, 2018, 08:47:58 pm
My chemistry teacher, a purebred scouser, often told us that the three best football teams in the world were Liverpool, Everton and Tranmere, but not necessarily in that order.

Be that as it may, the best two football sides on Merseyside were Liverpool and Liverpool Reserves.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on January 26, 2018, 12:58:25 am
I have just been watching this:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er_gMbQqjyE

Pretty rubbish recording of a wonderful day's cricket (I was there - £4.50 for a ticket to a Lord's final...). The funniest bit is Keith Fletcher being awarded the trophy. He doesn't realise that there's a plinth and a lid to the cup and they both disappear somewhere in his excitement.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on January 27, 2018, 05:22:00 pm
A question for our Lancastrian brethren: am I right in thinking that to refer to a team as "The Latics" is a big pile of nonsense, especially when it's Wigan?

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on January 27, 2018, 07:06:20 pm
A question for our Lancastrian brethren: am I right in thinking that to refer to a team as "The Latics" is a big pile of nonsense, especially when it's Wigan?

Wikipedia would disagree: -

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Full name:   Wigan Athletic Football Club
Nickname(s):   The Latics, The Tics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigan_Athletic_F.C.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on January 27, 2018, 07:21:04 pm
A question for our Lancastrian brethren: am I right in thinking that to refer to a team as "The Latics" is a big pile of nonsense, especially when it's Wigan?

Wikipedia would disagree: -

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Full name:   Wigan Athletic Football Club
Nickname(s):   The Latics, The Tics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigan_Athletic_F.C.

I wouldn't give wiki any authority! Even I have written stuff in there... ;)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on January 27, 2018, 09:20:19 pm
They share the epithet with Oldham.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on January 28, 2018, 11:29:54 pm
Yesterday, in League 2, 9 of the 11 fixtures included a club whose name began with the letter C - in one case, the second word of the club name. No "C" club played another.

How many times a season does that happen?  ;)

In the league all the teams we played in November started with a ‘C’.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on February 04, 2018, 12:53:41 pm
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/15918869.Police_probe_launched_into_Town_boss_after_alleged_blackmail_offences/

Crikey! That's the town of my birth, that is. What would Ian Dury have made of it?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on February 04, 2018, 05:01:25 pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Tamplin

Scrap metal dealer by the look of it.  Born-again, though it doesn't say how many times.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 08, 2018, 12:37:18 pm
http://www.echo-news.co.uk/news/15918869.Police_probe_launched_into_Town_boss_after_alleged_blackmail_offences/

Crikey! That's the town of my birth, that is. What would Ian Dury have made of it?
We're Billericay Town
And we're going to send you down
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on February 08, 2018, 12:44:10 pm
We're Billericay Town
And our owner's going down
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 08, 2018, 06:12:02 pm
Have the Winter Olympics started? I haven't seen anything about it in the news here, but Polish news is full of ski jumping reports from Pjongczang. (ski jumping being a popular spectator sport in PL)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: SteveC on February 08, 2018, 07:29:43 pm
Start Friday. Coverage on BBC, but at weird times, of course.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 09, 2018, 10:11:11 am
Must be some sort of elimination heats at the moment then. But in Korea already.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 09, 2018, 01:31:00 pm
The torch is lit now. Odd the way the events start before the opening ceremony! Kudos to Tonga for the most un-wintery opening parade.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on March 07, 2018, 02:05:35 pm
It seems that a third Charlton is trying to make his debut for England.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43307076
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on March 30, 2018, 08:10:03 pm
Megan and I got home from our 'walk' and Mrs B asked, How did Wales do?
"It wasn't Wales, it was The Scarlets.   Oh, hang on.  Same thing."  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on April 14, 2018, 05:41:35 pm
I only realised it was the grand national about 10 minutes before it started. So I quickly stuck a couple of quid each way on a horse I liked the name of.

IT FUCKING WON!!  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on April 14, 2018, 06:19:15 pm
I managed to pick the same winning horse in the pub sweepstake.    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on April 14, 2018, 09:59:47 pm
Tottenham 1  Manchester City 3

Eriksen scored for Spurs but Harry Kane is claiming all three of City's goals.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on April 15, 2018, 06:40:07 pm
Is it very wrong of me to point and laugh at a very soggy Jose Mourinho after his lot went down to West Brom at Old Trafford, thus handing the title to the bunch from across town?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on April 15, 2018, 10:41:03 pm
Is it very wrong of me to point and laugh at a very soggy Jose Mourinho after his lot went down to West Brom at Old Trafford, thus handing the title to the bunch from across town?

It doesn't matter.  The title was won months ago.  The (small) victory was beating Citeh last week, thereby preventing them winning it at Old Trafford..and making Citeh fans cry.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on April 16, 2018, 08:18:20 pm
Mr Larrington has had a busy day of sport:
First Bristol rugby rename themselves "Bristol Bears"
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The rugby club will, in future, be both “bear in spirit” and “bear in mind” according to this glossy brochure.
https://www.bristol247.com/sport/rugby/bristol-rugby-change-name/

Then it becomes known that a bear will be opening the World Cup in Russia later this year, which is either a fantastic piece of news
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Russia, apparently, is on an entirely different level when it comes to soccer. In a third division match between Mashuk-KMV vs. FC Aungusht, a freaking real bear was used to hand the ball to the referee. This isn't a joke. A real bear, a massive, scary yet cute creature, handed the ref to the ball and also started clapping. Take a look:
or "shocking" and "troubling"
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Shocking footage has emerged from Russia showing a bear being made to hand over the match ball before a game in the third division. This is just the latest in a long line of troubling incidents to occur in Russia ahead of the 2018 World Cup, with less than two months to go until the home nation’s opening clash against Saudi Arabia.
https://www.cbssports.com/soccer/news/a-bear-helped-start-match-in-russia-and-we-can-only-hope-we-see-this-at-the-2018-world-cup/
http://metro.co.uk/2018/04/16/bear-forced-hand-match-ball-referee-russia-ahead-world-cup-7472003/
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on April 17, 2018, 12:45:13 pm
Strewth  ::-)

I think I agree with the CBS guy's conclusion about Russia 2018:

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Man, this World Cup is going to be bonkers
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on April 17, 2018, 01:18:22 pm
Putting aside the World Cup for a mo and thinking about Bristol Rugby club, it turns out the name "Bristol Bears" is already taken:
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The new name for Bristol Rugby when they take to the field at Ashton Gate next season in the Premiership will be ‘Bristol Bears’, but there is already a well-established group of men known as the Bristol Bears.

Their spiritual and social home is in Old Market, the area that has been self-described as Bristol’s Gay Village, and of the many bars and clubs in the thriving village, the Bristol Bear Bar is their base.

And when any rugby fan might type ‘Bristol Bears’ into their internet browser, they will get a cascade of images of cheery, happy and smiling bears partying in and around Old Market.

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A spoof Bristol Bears rugby account has been set up on Twitter, hilariously suggesting that the rugby team will now be made up of regulars at the BBB, and discounts will be offered on tickets for fans turning up in leather harnesses.
...
The Bristol Bear Bar itself declined to comment, but one regular on the Bristol Bear scene, who didn't want to be named, said: “It’s hilarious. I’ve been checking out the rugby website now, and I’m sure those players will be welcomed in Old Market – especially Luke Morahan,” he said.
https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/bristol-rugbys-new-name-bristol-1466361

Putin of course has no beard but he's certainly keen to present a "hyper masculine" image.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on April 18, 2018, 12:25:14 pm
Twitter has been full of people posting "Accrington Stanley? Who are they?" and other people replying "Exactly."

I like it. I wonder what Ian Rush is doing now.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on April 18, 2018, 12:33:28 pm
Twitter has been full of people posting "Accrington Stanley? Who are they?" and other people replying "Exactly."

I like it. I wonder what Ian Rush is doing now.

Never heard of them.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on April 18, 2018, 12:37:33 pm
Twitter has been full of people posting "Accrington Stanley? Who are they?"

Oh dear. I posted the same on facebook earlier and thought I was being hugely original and witty.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on April 18, 2018, 12:52:38 pm
You weren't, but it still makes me smile. I watched the ad on yatube and I think the boys' strips are from the Crown paints Liverpool days.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Martin on April 18, 2018, 12:54:47 pm
I was shocked at the price of beer in my local Sky Sports pub last night,

Not going that often does anyone know if they hike their prices on match days?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on April 18, 2018, 12:57:24 pm
That surely depends on the individual pub. I don't think either of the two pubs where I occasionally watch football raise their prices when matches are on.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Martin on April 18, 2018, 01:01:08 pm
the scourge of the South East G***** K*** so hardly surprising
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on April 18, 2018, 01:02:11 pm
Twitter has been full of people posting "Accrington Stanley? Who are they?" and other people replying "Exactly."

"It's what Ian Rush drinks." is my standard reply to anyone exclaiming "Urgh!", and has been since about 1989.

See also: "What do you expect, it is the 1990s you know? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGxw8EzhlAM)"[1], which I only really started using in earnest after the year 2000.

In the unlikely event that I live long enough to be properly old, between this sort of thing and referring to any recorded media as a "tape" I should be fully set for confusing the young folk.   :thumbsup:


[1] They recorded two versions, so they could continue to use the advert in 1991, but only the original has made it to Youtube.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on April 18, 2018, 01:08:43 pm
I was shocked at the price of beer in my local Sky Sports pub last night,

Not going that often does anyone know if they hike their prices on match days?

My local actually lowers the price to £2.50 when the Welsh rugby team are on.  :thumbsup:
This reduction applies during the match only, which leads to lots of people standing around with no beer in their hand during the anthems followed by a mass rush to the bar as the game begins.  Another rush occurs during the last two minutes.  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Martin on April 18, 2018, 01:58:44 pm
also did I imagine it but I thought a pint glass appeared in the corner of the screen about 5 mins before half time (as in "get another round in before the rush!")

although it was there all the way through the second half (Which given I was supporting Spurs was probably a bit premature unless I was going to cry into it!)

at some point I could work out how much Punk IPA at £5.30 a pint I'd have to drink a month before it became cheaper to invest in Sky Sports at home (and a decoder for that matter)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on April 18, 2018, 02:17:34 pm
also did I imagine it but I thought a pint glass appeared in the corner of the screen about 5 mins before half time (as in "get another round in before the rush!")

The pint glass shows they've paid for the commercial Sky subscription (price is based on pub turnover but it averages about £2k a month for a typical reasonably busy pub).

Sky employ people to go round pubs when major sports events are on to ensure that the pint glass symbol is shown (the typical trick is to get a cut down Sky Sports commercial subscription that gives you a couple of the Sky Sports channels but then use a residential Sky subscription to show the other channels).

I've seen some pubs with the pint logo tippexed onto the screen.

You'll also see 9 digit numbers overlaid (usually top right) on Sky Sports channels, even on residential subscriptions. This is a unique number added by the Sky box (based on the viewing card number) that allows Sky to identify feeds being streamed onto the Internet. They employ people to find and watch the streams, pick out the numbers and then send the appropriate signal over the satellite feed to kill that viewing card/box remotely.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Legs on April 18, 2018, 02:20:47 pm
See also: "What do you expect, it is the 1990s you know? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGxw8EzhlAM)"[1], which I only really started using in earnest after the year 2000.
See also: "Where IS everybody? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBmplrgV93E)"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on April 18, 2018, 02:27:09 pm
I guess this means I'm old already, cos I've heard of Accrington Stanley but didn't have any idea – till I just googled it – that they'd done anything noteworthy, nor about the advert. And I'm still not sure what Ian Rush has to do with it (guessing he was in the 1980s advert)!

And if a pint was £5.30 I'd think the figures had been transposed.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on April 18, 2018, 02:29:10 pm
See also: "What do you expect, it is the 1990s you know? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGxw8EzhlAM)"[1], which I only really started using in earnest after the year 2000.
See also: "Where IS everybody? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBmplrgV93E)"

And "A bush, a bin, a brick, a bus... (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXkWBxFYCDQ)" (Milton Keynes' answer to Energy In Northampton.)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Kim on April 18, 2018, 02:33:06 pm
I guess this means I'm old already, cos I've heard of Accrington Stanley but didn't have any idea – till I just googled it – that they'd done anything noteworthy, nor about the advert. And I'm still not sure what Ian Rush has to do with it (guessing he was in the 1980s advert)!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pieK7b4KLL4
https://youtu.be/pieK7b4KLL4


ETA: It appears this has had a resurgence in popularity following this excellent parody vodka advert featuring the original actor:

https://vimeo.com/183463777

Which has been banned following complaints.  Possibly by Ian Rush.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-39203434
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on April 18, 2018, 04:53:46 pm
See also: "What do you expect, it is the 1990s you know? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGxw8EzhlAM)"[1], which I only really started using in earnest after the year 2000.

And any time anyone gets a new bike: "Ee, I were right about that saddle though."
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on April 20, 2018, 11:28:23 am
Wenger out (at the end of the season).

No great surprise.
* If he wins the EL and therefore qualifies for the CL next season then he should leave on a high.
* If he doesn't win the EL then he should have left anyway.

It does mean that the longest serving Premiership manager next season will be Eddie Howe.

(Assuming he doesn't move to Arsenal that is. Who knows who is going to be AFC manager next season.)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on April 20, 2018, 12:10:51 pm
It does mean that the longest serving Premiership manager next season will be Eddie Howe.

Blimey! That's actually a far more interesting fact than Wenger stepping down.

I looked up the list of longest-serving managers and five of the next seven after Wenger are recently promoted clubs - Howe at Bournemouth, Dyche at Burnley, Hughton at Brighton, Wagner at Huddersfield and Benitez at Newcastle.

I guess this shows that you can be allowed the luxury of a few seasons if you win a promotion and/or a cup, but once you start to stagnate into a bog-standard mid-table club (Everton, West Ham, Stoke), the revolving door policy kicks in.

The two interlopers in that bunch are Pochettino at Spurs and Klopp at Liverpool, but they are arguably the only two of the "Big Six" clubs that have showed real progress and improvement in the last few years. Man United, Chelsea and Arsenal have either remained static or gone backwards. City have only achieved the minimum expected given the manager and players at their disposal and Guardiola will be feeling the pressure to perform better in Europe next season.

It's a results business, Brian.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on April 20, 2018, 12:50:16 pm
I really hope Huddersfield can stay up this time. They're still hovering near the relegation zone so a couple more wins should steer them clear. My mum and brother have season tickets and they have been to pretty much every home game this season and loved it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on April 20, 2018, 01:38:13 pm
I hope they stay up, too.  Ancestrally, Huddersfield belong in the top division.  I don't think it happens very often that all three promoted clubs stay up, does it?  Could be wrong.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on April 20, 2018, 01:40:59 pm
97/98 was the last Premiership season where the 3 promoted clubs all stayed up.

Oops, nope. 2000/01 and 2010/11 too.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on April 20, 2018, 01:45:30 pm
Cheers, GB - still pretty unusual, then.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: andyoxon on May 02, 2018, 10:17:59 pm
Interesting Champion's League goal tonight... ;D

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Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: spesh on May 18, 2018, 04:54:15 pm
Former Uefa president Michel Platini has claimed that he fixed the draw for the 1998 World Cup in order to ensure France and Brazil did not meet until the final.

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The French hosted and won their first World Cup 20 years ago, beating Brazil 3-0 in the final in Paris.

Former France captain Platini was on the tournament's organising committee.

"When we organised the schedule, we did a little trickery," he told radio station France Bleu Sport.

"France-Brazil in the final, it was the dream of everyone.

"If we finished first in the group and Brazil finished first, we could not meet before the final."

He laughed as he went on: "We did not spend six years organising the World Cup to not do some little shenanigans. Do you think other World Cup hosts did not?"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44170578

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on May 18, 2018, 05:41:03 pm
Former Uefa president Michel Platini has claimed that he fixed the draw for the 1998 World Cup in order to ensure France and Brazil did not meet until the final.

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The French hosted and won their first World Cup 20 years ago, beating Brazil 3-0 in the final in Paris.

Former France captain Platini was on the tournament's organising committee.

"When we organised the schedule, we did a little trickery," he told radio station France Bleu Sport.

"France-Brazil in the final, it was the dream of everyone.

"If we finished first in the group and Brazil finished first, we could not meet before the final."

He laughed as he went on: "We did not spend six years organising the World Cup to not do some little shenanigans. Do you think other World Cup hosts did not?"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44170578

Same system as used by many tournaments, such as Wimbledon Tennis.  You can't be sure they will meet in the Final, you can only ensure they never meet BEFORE the final.

It makes sense really.  Nobody wants to see the big names going out in the early stages.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on May 18, 2018, 06:33:23 pm
And FIFA seem to have approved.
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Two days before the draw took take place, world governing body Fifa announced that holders Brazil would be allocated to Group A while France were in Group C.

It meant that if the two teams finished top they would be on opposite sides of the draw for the knockout stage.
The idea might have originated from FIFA rather than Platini and he's just claiming the glory now.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on May 19, 2018, 09:44:31 am
I think all the recent single host world cup tournaments have been arranged so that the hosts and cup holders will stay apart until the final (assuming they get that far) Nothing out of the ordinary in France 98
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on July 10, 2018, 06:39:52 pm
Christiano Ronaldo signs for Juventus! (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/10/cristiano-ronaldo-leaves-real-madrid-joins-juventus/)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on July 10, 2018, 07:29:03 pm
Christiano Ronaldo signs for Juventus! (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2018/07/10/cristiano-ronaldo-leaves-real-madrid-joins-juventus/)

Stripes are slimming, and he's not getting any younger...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on July 22, 2018, 03:08:21 pm
One of my wife's running friends just finished a 500-km race across Tennessee, running over 50k / day.  She's 66.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on July 23, 2018, 12:01:02 pm
It's taken a long time but it's finally happened. Sort of.

East Fife 4 Forfar 5

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44916496 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/44916496)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on July 23, 2018, 12:20:46 pm
I find it incredible that Eric Morecambe has been dead for 34 years. I'd have said about 10, 15 at the most.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Marco Stefano on July 24, 2018, 12:24:16 pm
Ms Marco & her England Women's Open team-mates retained their European Touch title at the weekend, to much relief from watching supporters. BBC live streamed this championship, so getting more recognition. Some stunning touch played; Scotland's mixed open side was superb.

England-Wales in pool stages: 11-2
England-Wales in final: 3-2
England supporters' need for a large beer after that: great.  ;D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on July 24, 2018, 12:39:00 pm
I find it incredible that Eric Morecambe has been dead for 34 years. I'd have said about 10, 15 at the most.

I would have guessed at Eric Morecambe's death being much more recent than Tommy Cooper's but they actually popped off within a few weeks of each other.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on July 24, 2018, 12:46:28 pm
I associate them both with my grandparents' generation.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on July 24, 2018, 01:48:50 pm
I find it incredible that Eric Morecambe has been dead for 34 years. I'd have said about 10, 15 at the most.

I would have guessed at Eric Morecambe's death being much more recent than Tommy Cooper's but they actually popped off within a few weeks of each other.

IIRC both of them drew applause from the audience until they realized what was happening.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on July 30, 2018, 11:00:23 am
Congratulations to Forest Green Rovers on becoming the world's first football club to be certified carbon neutral by the UN!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on July 30, 2018, 11:36:28 am
Last season they were pretty well points neutral, too.  Hoping for better things this time!


Edit:  Thus far they are that rare beast - a club that is relegation neutral!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: LEE on July 30, 2018, 01:24:13 pm
I find it incredible that Eric Morecambe has been dead for 34 years. I'd have said about 10, 15 at the most.

It seems very much like 34 years to me.  He's a childhood/early teen memory for me.....and I haven't been either for some time.

He's also one of those memories I feel is best not revisited. I doubt the M&W Show will have dated well but the memory of it leaves a warm glow.

I find it incredible that I am older than Captain Mainwaring!!  Arthur Lowe was 53 when he first played the role.

Godfrey (Arnold Ridley) was 72...so anyone out there 72 and above is now older than Private Godfrey.

I am the same age as Sergeant Wilson (John le Mesurier) at 56.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on July 30, 2018, 06:40:54 pm
Yesterday when I returned to my accommodation at Agnes Blackadder Hall there was a large number of extremely well-built athletic looking blokes coming the other way all dressed in identical shorts and tops - I reckon about 100 of them. It was some sort of rugby summer school from Edinburgh.

At breakfast this morning, there wasn't a great deal of the first helping left. One of the rugby players was nearby. "Harrumph!" I harrumphed. "It looks as though a rugby team as been getting at this lot!" He thought that was quite amusing.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on August 26, 2018, 07:18:37 pm
End of the cricket season  here.
Llandysul  1sts. 2 wins in the last two weeks saves them  from relegation, so a second year in South Wales Div 1
Llandysul  2nds.  Top their division and are promoted to South Wales Div 5 (West)

A good year.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on September 21, 2018, 06:48:21 am
Blimey Andrij the Browns are 1-1-1 having bcome back from 14-0 against the Jets.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on September 22, 2018, 01:03:16 am
Blimey Andrij the Browns are 1-1-1 having bcome back from 14-0 against the Jets.

I'm on that side of the pond, and was able to watch the game.  :)  The first half was forgettable, the second - incredible!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on October 01, 2018, 04:32:53 pm
Blimey Andrij the Browns are 1-1-1 having bcome back from 14-0 against the Jets.

I'm on that side of the pond, and was able to watch the game.  :)  The first half was forgettable, the second - incredible!

And so they reverted to type yesterday. Though I must say that leading during the fourth quarter and only loosing in over time is even more cruel in the added hope that is cast into the pit of despair.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on October 01, 2018, 05:11:08 pm
I watched to the bitter end.  I'm actually starting to develop a bit of hope they won't be utterly crappe this season.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on November 20, 2018, 07:09:06 pm
this made me laugh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46269865 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46269865)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mattc on November 27, 2018, 07:36:12 pm
https://twitter.com/HannahB4LiviMP/status/1064972456971124737

[I don't THINK it's been posted yet ... ]
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on December 07, 2018, 07:54:17 am
Skateboarding, sport or not?

Apparently it will be in the next 'lympics,
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Torslanda on December 07, 2018, 08:39:39 am
Like snowboarding but generally warmer. With more abrasion injuries...
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on December 07, 2018, 08:47:35 am
I can see the evolution skiing to snowboarding, but to skateboaring?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 07, 2018, 09:11:39 am
For skateboarding, start with roller skating not skiing! If there are rules and an element of competition, both of which should be pretty easy to organise for skateboarding, then it's a sport. If you want to get classical, then it satisfies the first of citius, altitus, fortius. The list of sports that have been introduced to the Olympics then dropped is quite long, I'm not going to speculate if or when skateboarding will join it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on December 07, 2018, 10:02:15 am
For skateboarding, start with roller skating not skiing! If there are rules and an element of competition, both of which should be pretty easy to organise for skateboarding, then it's a sport. If you want to get classical, then it satisfies the first of citius, altitus, fortius. The list of sports that have been introduced to the Olympics then dropped is quite long, I'm not going to speculate if or when skateboarding will join it.
Tiddliwinks?
Darts?
Snooker?

sports?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 07, 2018, 10:14:23 am
I thought the classic one was chess?  ;D Okay, rules, competition and some sort of physical exertion.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 07, 2018, 10:16:16 am
Motor boat racing?
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Since the first modern Olympic Games in 1896, as many as twelve sports have disappeared completely from the schedule. These are croquet, cricket, Jeu de Paume, pelota, polo, roque, rackets, tug-of-war, lacrosse, baseball, softball, and motor boating. The Winter Olympics also has a few sports and events that have been discontinued.
https://www.topendsports.com/events/discontinued/
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on December 07, 2018, 10:29:49 am
I thought the classic one was chess?  ;D Okay, rules, competition and some sort of physical exertion.

Rules, competition, and an element of skill (i.e. you can't compete just by someone more experienced telling you what to do, like chess).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: ElyDave on December 07, 2018, 10:40:14 am
you forgot poetry
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 07, 2018, 10:54:56 am
I thought the classic one was chess?  ;D Okay, rules, competition and some sort of physical exertion.

Rules, competition, and an element of skill (i.e. you can't compete just by someone more experienced telling you what to do, like chess).
So tiddlywinks, darts, etc are back in!

you forgot poetry
I think there's a new form of cycling in this. It's a track event during which the riders declaim poetry which gives allegorical/metaphorical instructions to their team mates in the centre moving the chess pieces.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on December 07, 2018, 11:28:05 am
Town Planning?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on December 07, 2018, 11:47:20 am
Town Planning?

Is a sport required to have a winner?  If so, I don't think Town Planning qualifies, especially at professional level.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Basil on December 07, 2018, 12:46:18 pm
Town Planning?

Is a sport required to have a winner?  If so, I don't think Town Planning qualifies, especially at professional level.

https://www.planetizen.com/node/87885/going-gold-when-town-planning-was-olympic-competition
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 07, 2018, 01:11:52 pm
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"Along with town planning, the lineup of events also included painting, sculpture, literature and music. Baron Pierre de Coubertin, the founder of the modern Games, believed art and architecture were a vital component for his vision of the Olympics. The first four decades of the modern Olympic Games saw runners and swimmers competing alongside authors and urban planners."
The Baron sounds like a Renaissance man. Perhaps to bring the Games up to date we could have medals for something like hedge fund management?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Torslanda on December 08, 2018, 11:59:45 am
I can see the evolution skiing to snowboarding, but to skateboaring?

ICBW. My branes tell me that skateboarding went 'mainstream'* around 1978. I was not aware of snowboarding until much later. So snowboarding is skateboards on ice/snow and skatebaording is roller skates on planks, hence the suggested evolution.

*It was in Sunday colour supplements and on TV - World of Sport on a Saturday with Dickie Davies - 'Nationwide' even staged a national championship so that characterless, disappointed, dismal people could complain about 'stupid' clothing and 'stupid' haircuts whilst Sue Lawley simpered at the camera and Frank Bough was having BDSM fantasies.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 10, 2018, 01:03:18 pm
An impressive amount of work must have gone in the giant banner unfurled by FC Basel's fans yesterday.
https://youtu.be/rPdFrN1o02g
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on January 11, 2019, 07:25:00 pm
I was checking some football results to see how Southend got on on Tuesday (I was sure they were playing as there were lots of people milling around just at the time Jan and I were off to choir, but couldn't find a result) when I randomly stumbled across two results that caught the eye: Man City 7 - 0 Rotherham, and Man City 9 - 0  Burton Albion.

I wonder when the last time was that a team scored 16 goals without reply in two matches in 4 days?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on January 11, 2019, 08:02:15 pm
st custards' U-10s once won their first two games of the season 9-0 and 21-0.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on January 11, 2019, 08:03:35 pm
I should have added "a top level side". Burton & Rotherham have both been respectably good sides in recent years.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on January 11, 2019, 09:03:59 pm
Burton's highest finish so far has been 20th in the second tier.  Rotherham once finished 3rd in the second tier but that was closer to the formation of organised football than to the present day.  I think the fact that Manchester City's scores look so remarkable is partly down to the fact that most top teams faced with "lesser" opposition tend to field an experimental side, expecting to win anyway.  (This came gloriously and satisfyingly unstuck for Liverpool and
Leicester recently - so much for "genius" managers.)  Manchester City did not play be the rules, I think, deeming it not to be cricket.  I'm old-fashioned enough to think it is thoroughly ungentlemany to beat a team from a lower division by a rugby score (or in Durham's case, a cricket score).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fimm on January 17, 2019, 02:05:27 pm
The Spine Race is a 268mile ultra marathon run along the Pennine Way south to north in January.

This year's race was won yesterday evening by Jasmin Paris, who took about 12 hours off the old course record (in what were good weather conditions). The man who was in second place was a previous winner and would have also broken the old record had he not DNFed 6km from the finish. The actual 2nd place finisher was the previous course record holder.

Jasmin was expressing breast milk for her baby at the checkpoints. (I think the baby is about a year old).

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/jan/17/jasmin-paris-first-woman-win-gruelling-286-mile-montane-spice-race-ultrarunning
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: woollypigs on January 17, 2019, 02:14:22 pm
^ that is a clear definition of a nutter, the the best way possible. :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on January 17, 2019, 02:51:18 pm
I wonder when the last time was that a team scored 16 goals without reply in two matches in 4 days?

Back in 2001, Australia beat Tonga 22 nill. Two days later they beat American Samoa 31 nill.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: essexian on January 17, 2019, 02:58:19 pm
If you are looking for teams which have conceded a lot of goals this year, then look no further than Florence FC from the Staffordshire County Premier

 http://www.staffordshirecsl.co.uk/TeamFixtures?age=22&division=21196&team=209799

That's 110 goals conceded in their last six matches with none scored.

IMHO Florence should have been relegated last season after they finished bottom but the league failed to do. However, I would vote them team of the year as they have turned up and tried their best at all the matches they have placed this season.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: woollypigs on January 17, 2019, 03:10:21 pm
Hmm I might go a support them, they clearly have the same level of interest in sportsball as me. Go to the park, have a natter and a laugh with mates, if there is a ball just kick it about in a meandering way and when you get tired of that, head to the pub for a few.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: woollypigs on January 17, 2019, 03:27:18 pm
oooh here's another loon :)

https://www.wsj.com/video/184-mph-on-a-bicycle-how-denise-mueller-korenek-set-the-world-record/5418759C-1B56-4F9A-AB90-3418A71D1F49.html?mod=trending_now_video_1
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on January 17, 2019, 03:36:26 pm
Hmm I might go a support them, they clearly have the same level of interest in sportsball as me. Go to the park, have a natter and a laugh with mates, if there is a ball just kick it about in a meandering way and when you get tired of that, head to the pub for a few.

There are plenty of YouTube channels documenting the shitness of Sunday league football teams, should you wish to watch. The players turn up half cut, massively hungover or just dog tired after being up all night tending to their kids. They then go on to play and just generally kick the fuck out of the opposition. All very amusing  :)
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on January 19, 2019, 01:06:30 pm
If you are looking for teams which have conceded a lot of goals this year, then look no further than Florence FC from the Staffordshire County Premier

 http://www.staffordshirecsl.co.uk/TeamFixtures?age=22&division=21196&team=209799

That's 110 goals conceded in their last six matches with none scored.

IMHO Florence should have been relegated last season after they finished bottom but the league failed to do. However, I would vote them team of the year as they have turned up and tried their best at all the matches they have placed this season.


Best result of the season so far - match postponed!  They'll be celebrating in the old town tonight.....
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on January 21, 2019, 10:27:51 pm
Some of you may recall my status as a supporter of the Cleveland Browns (US football) - a team with a rather poor record these last few decades.

Today I learned I'm in august company - Friedrich Nietzsche is a Fan of the Cleveland Browns (http://existentialcomics.com/comic/273).
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Torslanda on January 22, 2019, 05:16:29 pm
If that's true, God really is dead!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: matthew on January 23, 2019, 03:13:29 pm
Some of you may recall my status as a supporter of the Cleveland Browns (US football) - a team with a rather poor record these last few decades.

Today I learned I'm in august company - Friedrich Nietzsche is a Fan of the Cleveland Browns (http://existentialcomics.com/comic/273).

Firstly they weren't bottom of their division this year - Major Progress
Secondly they very nearly broke 50% this year compared to last year this was very major progress.
Third if they can keep their hands on Mayfield (and him healthy) and recruit wisely around him this progress may actually be sustained for the next few years.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Andrij on January 23, 2019, 03:34:44 pm
Re-read after spending a lifetime as a supporter. ;)

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on March 02, 2019, 09:18:05 pm
Flipping through the channels, as you do, in our hotel room in San Sebastián, I have stumbled upon A Thing called Real Madrid TV. Barcelona are the opponents.  But RMTV seems not to have permission to cover the match. The screen is divided into 4. Top left shows players warming up on the touch line, top right shows the outside of the stadium, bottom left shows 3 commentators and bottom right shows a besuited man whom I assume to be the manager. There is a commentary, which is in Spanish.

Was there ever a more pointless exercise?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on March 02, 2019, 10:04:01 pm
So you're saying Real Madrid TV doesn't show Real Madrid matches? Bizarre. Or actually not bizarre, presumably they'll show it later but won't show it live in order to preserve broadcasting income. I've just found it online and it seems to be showing some second-team match. Actually it's RM Castilla v Valladolid. Who?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on March 03, 2019, 10:36:52 am
When Jan and I were in a restaurant last night a live match was being broadcast on La Liga TV, between Hue and Sev. It was interesting because Sev had a goal disallowed by VAR in the 90th minute but Hue scored the winner in the 96th minute. The Rma Bar match was then shown, but we left to go back to our hotel during the first half.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: essexian on March 07, 2019, 08:17:48 am
I am so glad I watch the majority of the football I view live in the Staffordshire County Senior or Midland Leagues; places which will never been infested with the joke that is VAR.

Why a joke? Well, if that was a penalty in the PSG V Manchester United match, then I know nothing about football despite watching live over 2 000 matches in my time. Frankly, if a referee can get the call so wrong after watching it for two minutes solid, then the system does not work and the referee needs to be sacked. The bloke had his back to the ball and his arm was by his side and not moving towards the ball. How on Earth can that be a spot kick?

Sigh, once again Manchester United get the result they want deep into additional time. I mean, anyone would think that someone somewhere wanted them to win.  :-\

If VAR is going to be used then it should be used only for decisions like: "was the ball over the line" and "was the player off side." You may also want to look players being put on report as they do in Rugby so incidences missed by the Ref can be reviewed after the game.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on March 07, 2019, 08:57:00 am
VAR makes sense if the referee actually applies the laws of the game. It's a handball, if, in the opinion of the referee, a player intentionally handles the ball. So many VAR penalties are given where the ball is hit at a players arm (and the arm is in a perfectly normal position by their side). It seems that the refs see the slow motion, and think that a player can move their arm out of the way, when if all they were able to see was the full speed version, there would be no question it was deliberate.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Greenbank on March 07, 2019, 12:30:04 pm
The handball law is due to change (for everyone) next season and UEFA/FIFA like to try things out in the upcoming season in the prestigious tournaments (albeit unofficially).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47429316 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47429316)

The fundamental change is this one:-

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Another change to the laws of the game means that if the player's arms extend beyond a "natural silhouette", handball will be given, even if it is perceived as accidental.

Under those rules it would have been a penalty. The ref would have decided that Kimpembe's arm position was outside the "natural silhouette" (see pic below) and so, even though it was not intentional, it would have been given. Turning his back has nothing to do with it in this case, nor the amount of time he had to react.

Under the current rules it's no where near as clear cut. It definitely hit the players arm, and the contact was definitely in the penalty area.

Currently the only get out is whether it was unintentional (or, more correctly[1], could Kimpembe have got his arm out of the way in time) but that only applies where the ball is struck from a yard or two away and the player has no chance of getting their arm out of the way. This was just a bit further than that. If the ball hits your arm and you've had 10 seconds to get your arm out of the way then you're deemed to have deliberately left it there. Obviously this is somewhere in between the two extremes. Even if Kimpembe had been looking he wouldn't have had much time to get his arm out of the way of Dalot's shot, but if he had he might have been able to and the ball might have sailed over for a goal kick.

Given there's no unanimous agreement amongst referees it shows that the laws are still open to too much interpretation, however IFAB are making changes (as noted above) to slowly try and solve this.

Here are the pics that show Kimpembe's arm is not in a standard position, and the position relative to the penalty area:-

(https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/67/590x/secondary/Man-Utd-penalty-VAR-PSG-Champions-League-Rashford-1769765.jpg?r=1551939752843)

1. The "deliberate act" the law requires can be interpreted as the deliberate decision not to move the hands/arms out of the way. You don't have to have movement of the hand/arms towards the ball for it to be handball.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on March 07, 2019, 01:13:37 pm
The handball law is due to change
I glanced at the first few words and thought of a different sport.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: PeteB99 on March 07, 2019, 02:51:36 pm
The handball law is due to change (for everyone) next season and UEFA/FIFA like to try things out in the upcoming season in the prestigious tournaments (albeit unofficially).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47429316 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/47429316)


Yes. I've been watching some Italian Serie A and Dutch Eridvisie games lately and the new law does appear to be being trialled. Lots of penalties being awarded for very little. I guess the result will be that a player unable to get a shot at the goal will just blast the ball at the nearest opponent in the hope of getting a penalty.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: essexian on March 07, 2019, 04:37:44 pm

Yes. I've been watching some Italian Serie A and Dutch Eridvisie games lately and the new law does appear to be being trialled. Lots of penalties being awarded for very little. I guess the result will be that a player unable to get a shot at the goal will just blast the ball at the nearest opponent in the hope of getting a penalty.

Somewhat like field hockey where if the ball hits the foot then its a penalty corner. Its a stupid rule as forwards simply aim for the foot in order to get an advantage.

Thanks Greenbank (and indeed everyone else) for their replies. Here is the rub, I would argue that his arm is in a natural position, hence there is no way I could give a penalty for this. I am not sure where he could have placed.   The change is simply a joke which will cause yet more problems for Referees. I can see even more leaving lower leagues/kids games as its just not worth the hassle of upset players/shouty parents!

FIFA should stay doing what they do best... selling the World Cup to unsuitable nations for financial incentives... and let the people who actually know something about football set the rules etc.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on March 08, 2019, 12:41:55 pm
Does this mean that Half Man Half Biscuit will have to changed the entry for "H" in "The Referee's Alphabet"?

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The H is for handball, which has to be intentional and very rarely is.  If only people would study the rules more.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on March 08, 2019, 12:49:09 pm
Here is the rub, I would argue that his arm is in a natural position, hence there is no way I could give a penalty for this. I am not sure where he could have placed.   The change is simply a joke which will cause yet more problems for Referees. I can see even more leaving lower leagues/kids games as its just not worth the hassle of upset players/shouty parents!

I agree - try jumping and keeping your hands exactly at your side.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but Alberto Moreno was ahead of his time. If this is the rule going forwards, defenders trying to tackle someone whilst clasping their hands together behind their back will become the norm!

I suspect that "common sense" will apply further down the pyramid, but that won't stop the shouty parents from demanding handball every single time it goes anywhere near someone's arm.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on March 08, 2019, 12:57:42 pm
I'm now wondering what happens if you commit a football in handball?  :D
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on March 15, 2019, 12:03:05 am
I'm sure everyone on YACF will be delighted to join me in congratulating the England chess team, who have just won the silver medals at the World Team Championship. As WGM Jovanka Houska* said, with possibly a trace of exaggeration "You have made the entire country very proud!"

The team consisted of Michael Adams, a Grand Old Man of 47 years, and three rather younger players: Luke McShane, Gawain Jones and David Howell. It was my privilege to play both McShane and Howell during my ... chequered career. I managed a draw with McShane and didn't do quite so well against Howell. Their combined ages at the time I played them was 16.

Howell was 7 when I lost to him. Judging by the way he rushed off to tell his mum, I think I was the strongest player he had ever beaten up to that point. However, a year or so later he broke a world record by becoming the youngest player ever to beat a Real Live Grandmaster when he beat John Nunn. Nunn was, at one time, in the world Top 10, so I was in good company. It was my privilege to have been one of the controllers in that tournament.

*I recalled after typing the above that I played Jovanka Houska twice. She must have been in her early teens and I knew she was very good. I was surprised how badly she played in the first encounter, which I won. She took me apart in the second, though, which I think was a few months later.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on March 15, 2019, 09:30:01 am
I'm now wondering what happens if you commit a football in handball?  :D

Possession is turned over to the other side.

Handball is the exact flip of football in that only the goalkeeper is allowed to kick the ball.

</spoiling the gag with a serious answer>
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on April 14, 2019, 07:36:21 pm
The first 11 years of his career, he won 14 majors.
The second 11 years of his career he won 0 majors.

Until now. Amazing comeback by Tiger Woods ....
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on April 15, 2019, 12:51:15 pm
Straight out of "The Hotspur", isn't it?  Wonderful!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: bobb on April 15, 2019, 07:14:07 pm
Straight out of "The Hotspur", isn't it?  Wonderful!

I had to Google "The Hotspur"  :P
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Peter on April 16, 2019, 11:32:54 am
I can take it!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on April 28, 2019, 10:15:01 pm
Eliud Kipchoge won today's London Marathon with an average speed of around 20.6 km/h. That's faster than I usually average when cycling :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on May 01, 2019, 06:16:10 pm
The campaign of hatred against trans women led by Davies (retweeting Nick Griffin!), Rasdcliffe and Navratilova,  wins another casualty in Casters Semenya. Note how the word "cheat" has been used. "Cheats" are people like FloJo, the entire current Russian and old East German teams, and so on.

I trust that a follow-on from this ruling to penalise non-cheats for perceived genetic advantages will now ban such factors as excess height above average for swimmers and long-distance runners (Yes, YOU, Davies and Radcliffe) or perhaps reflex times?

Navratilova, who came out with all the bullshit about trans people, is now apparently upset that Semenya has been effectively banned. WTF did you expect, you bigot? She is, naturally, still campaigning on hatred of trans people.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/athletics/48102479

Hint to the open-minded, as opposed to those who think that fair discussion consists of chanting "PENIS!" in TV studios: trans people* have been allowed to compete in the Olympics for fifteen years. Bu the logic Sharron Davies and other haters apply, that should mean that the women's events have been dominated by trans women; records smashed, cisgender women out-competed, and so on. In fact, the number of trans women who are or have been Olympic champions actually matches the number of trans women who have competed in the Olympic women's events: none. Zilch. Nada.

*It is ALWAYS about trans women. Trans men don't appear to exist.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on May 01, 2019, 07:10:16 pm
Here is Davies on her 'logic', even doing the "I'm not racist, some of my best friends..." schtick.

https://twitter.com/sharrond62/status/1123501449160294405
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on May 02, 2019, 10:43:15 am
Even CAS have basically said Well, it's complicated. 2-1, acknowledging discrimination against Semenya, but arguing that discrimination is necessary to level the playing field.
Apologies for ststing something you already know, but the problem with "sex testing" for who should be allowed to compete in women's sport has been around since the middle of last century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_verification_in_sports

I think sports governing bodies are in a no-win scenario - as you point out there are vocal commentators who want rigorous testing to ensure that women in sports fit their personal definition of a woman.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rafletcher on May 02, 2019, 11:39:35 am

*It is ALWAYS about trans women. Trans men don't appear to exist.

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/rachel-mckinnon-becomes-first-transgender-woman-win-track-world-title-397473
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on May 02, 2019, 12:50:33 pm
The campaign of hatred against trans women ... wins another casualty in Casters Semenya.

Caster Semenya is not a "trans woman"
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on May 02, 2019, 04:23:49 pm
This is a really interesting (and long) analysis of the case. Tucker is open about being a witness for Caster Semenya, so his perspective is well known, but still worth reading.
https://sportsscientists.com/2019/05/on-dsds-the-theory-of-testosterone-performance-the-cas-ruling-on-caster-semenya/


*It is ALWAYS about trans women. Trans men don't appear to exist.

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/rachel-mckinnon-becomes-first-transgender-woman-win-track-world-title-397473
Exactly.  Rachel McKinnon is a trans woman.
It's always about trans women because a cis woman has a disadvantage compared to a cis man, so if a trans man wants to compete against cis men, theoretically he would be at a disadvantage.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on May 02, 2019, 06:53:42 pm
The campaign of hatred against trans women ... wins another casualty in Casters Semenya.

Caster Semenya is not a "trans woman"

No, she isn't. But the campaign, which started with Navratilova  and was then picked up by Davies, Radcliffe, etc, was all about trans women, and the word repeatedly used is "cheat". The narrative has been very, very clear in its focus, and it goes "Lots of third-rate male athletes will self-define as female and fo through years of hormone therapy to become world champions..."

McKinnon won one race, in this particular narrative, against a cis woman, who then complained. They had raced against each other around a dozen times previously, and the cis woman had won every single time. The one race Rachel won, there was an immediate cry of "CHEAT!".

The IOC set out a whole range of criteria for trans women fifteen years ago. By the logic involved in the complaints going on*, the record books and medal tables should have been dominated by men pretending to be trans women who go through HRT just long enough to win everything, and then transition back to male. That hasn't happened, has it?

What HAS happened is a sustained and really vicious campaign of personal abuse and hatred against all trans women, which has intensified over the last few years. This particular "CHEAT!" narrative is just part of it. Semenya fell foul of it precisely because people like Navratilova have been shouting "Not Fair!" that some people have genetic advantages over others. Unfortunately, that is what elite sport is all about.

I could look at a swimming or running champion like Sharron Davies or Paula Radcliffe, and shout "CHEAT!" back. They are both taller by far than the average woman, so have inborn genetic advantages. How does that differ from Semenya? Should we start excluding e.g. Kenyan distance runners because their genetics makes them "CHEATS!" due to their cardiovascular system?

Citoyen, one of the side-effects of privilege is that one doesn't pick up on what happens in the lives of those without that privilege. Those with white privilege, for example, will often miss the signs of systematic racism at all levels. Cisgender people will not have picked up on the relentless campaign of transphobic hatred pouring out from everywhere in the MSM (e.g.Times: 323 hate articles against trans women in 2018. So far this year, they have peaked at five on one day). Those articles have stirred up a pile of crap that has now fallen on "Caster Semenya is not a trans woman".

The remedy offered by the TERFs is illogical. It involves treating her with drugs that they claim explicitly are evil and harmful. They take ONE natural advantage enjoyed by a tiny number of women, and blow it up as cheating (their explicit word. once more) while ignoring the other advantages some other women enjoy (height, reach, proportion of fast-twitch muscle fibres).  Underneath Semenya's treatment, as I have linked, there is a real stench of racism.

Citoyen et al: privilege. Without being in my shoes, it is very unlikely you will have picked up on the continual flow of hatred towards us. It is everywhere, from Twitter through the press (including the Graun) to stickers being put up in women's toilets. Casters Semenya is indeed "not a ;trans woman' " (BTW, why the quotation marks?) but she is a casualty of organised and systematic anti-trans bigotry. Put yourself in my shoes for a few moments; start by looking at the 'women's rights' chat board on Mumsnet for a feel of where the narrative comes from.

Then those of you who may or may not support her ban can explain to me why one, and only one, natural variation in perfectly normal female human genetics should have been singled out in this way. No, Citoyen, she is not a trans woman**. She is just an extraordinary female athlete being penalised for no valid reason because of bigots who hate other women from a different group.

No trans athletes at all in the Olympics in fifteen years, much less dominating medal tables and records. Fact.

*The same people pushing the "CHEAT!" narrative are exactly the same ones who claim that 'men' have genital surgery so as to be able to enter women's spaces in order to rape little girls with the penis they no longer have. Yes, that is really what they say.

** Trans women are women. Fact. Law in this country and in others.

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on May 03, 2019, 12:00:57 pm
The reason why this case is complex, and why the parallel with Phelps or Kenyan runners or whoever is not a good one is because athletics has 2 categories - an "open" category where men compete, and a protected category where only women can compete. There are no such protected categories in swimming or running where you have to be a certain size or shape (unlike boxing for example).

Once the powers that be have created the concept that there is a protected category where only women can race, then they have to draw a boundary and define what that means. And unlike weight in boxing, this definition is where things get complicated. There has to be some sort of restrictions to stop a man just declaring themselves female and then winning (the chances of this happening are pretty small, but because of the performance advantages a man has in sports like running, they wouldn't need to be a world class man to produce times that compete with world class women).

The theory that the IAAF came up with was that the performance advantage that athletes with DSD (or trans athletes, though that's only an aside in this case) have is down to the level of testosterone that their body produces. They have some science (which many have attacked as dodgy) to back this up, and that's what they took to CAS and allowed to win this case (after losing the Dutee Chand case). By that measure, while they fully accept that Semenya is a woman, and that to exclude her unless she artificially reduces her testosterone level is discrimination, it is necessary to ensure the integrity of the competition. Similar (I think more stringent?) requirements are also placed on male to female transgender athletes.

It is debatable if a reasonable medical professional could prescribe drugs to do this testosterone reduction to a healthy female athlete. As I understand it, it wouldn't be within the normal scope of the drug use, and so ethically it is extremely dubious.

Rachel McKinnon argues that having to reduce her level of testosterone infringes her human rights, and she shouldn't have to do this. I have less sympathy with her than I do with Semenya, because I think that there are more "integrity of competition" questions. Maybe this is just a bias and I am discriminating against her, in which case I apologise. Many TERFs (and just transphobes) are of the opinion that she shouldn't be allowed to compete at all because she has physical advantages due to growing up with a male level of hormones. I think there ought to be some science done on this to determine the level of advantage (if any) is gained, and the testosterone reduction rules as they are seem to have created a level playing field and maintained the integrity of competition.

I recognise that I'm in a massively privileged position of being a white cis male, so if I have not captured some nuance (and I'm sure there is some element of racism involved - the 2 most recent CAS cases being brought by BAME women) I would appreciate being corrected.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on May 03, 2019, 02:38:20 pm
A thoughtful reply. Thank you.

First, Casters is female, and within the range of development that females fall into. She no more deserves "special" treatment than Sharron Davies, who is much taller and more muscular than the typical female range. There is also Polycystic Ovary Syndrome, which produces raised testosterone levels in women. The reaction of the TERFs is "Oh.... Squirrel! Look!". In essence, if one natural genetic variation is to be penalised, what others should be hit?

Second, Casters, as I explained to Citoyen, is not trans. She is collateral damage resulting from a hate campaign against trans women driven by TERFs. You have hit the nail squarely there, because an awful lot of TERFs are out-and-out racists. "Posie Parker", for example, is a Tommy Yaxley-Pseudonym supporter. Other bigotry involves misandry (look up 'political lesbian') and biphobia. The general claim is that the single most oppressed group of people on the planet are affluent, white, well-educated women living in nice areas. The hate group meetings have a demography that almost entirely maps that of the KKK.

Third, there has been a scientific experiment running for the last 15 years. It is called "The Olympics". According to the haters, every event and record in the women's field should now be dominated by trans women. The results are clear, in that there are no trans women competitors at all, never mind record-breakers. It would therefore appear that the measures put in place by the IOC not only work, but could be considered as excessively rigorous.

Finally, please avoid using DSD. It is a term with a long history, and it is not well-liked by those who fall within the category (like myself*). Originally, the first D was for 'disorder', then it stood for 'difference'. A preferred term now is "Variations in Sexual Characteristics" (VSC), and there is a frequent separation into Intersex/VSC. The idea is that intersex people have characteristics from both sides of binary sex, whereas VSC people (such as those with hypospadias) are clearly one or the other conventional binary sex.

As a matter of interest, the hate forums (who routinely claim that trans rights supporters, including Keira Knightley, are 'obvs' trans women**) are now demanding that Casters be stripped of all her medals and records. They are also targeting a selection of other athletes (ALL BAME) who they 'suspect' are trans or I/VSC.

*I have had at least three operations, starting from infancy, that were done to correct my genitalia. Among other procedures, I have had a gonad removed from my abdomen. The reasons for such procedures, the last one being at age 25, have neither been disclosed nor accurately recorded. The first operation, which produced an interesting collection of scar tissue around my scrotum, was not recorded at all.

** The usual term is "TIM", standing for "Trans Identified Male". In Casters' case, the discussion has been about 'backwards countries'. As said, the KKK would love these people, and do: their allies pay for them to visit the USA.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: DuncanM on May 03, 2019, 03:13:16 pm
Apologies for using the wrong term - I was following this article which I took to be non-offensive seeing as he was part of Caster Semenyas team: https://sportsscientists.com/2019/05/on-dsds-the-theory-of-testosterone-performance-the-cas-ruling-on-caster-semenya/

While I agree with much of what you say, I don't agree that the Olympics is a scientific experiment. It is evidence of sorts, but it has so many compounding variables that it is not a well designed experiment. For example, we don't know how many athletes are suppressing their hormones in a way to allow them to compete under the IOC rules. Maybe the rules carry such a burden so as to make the rest of life too unpleasant to maintain such a treatment regime.  Maybe this is because when doing so, even the exceptionally talented are unable to hit the times to make it to the Olympics. Maybe it is because there are relatively few people who have VSC and the few that combine this with athletic talent have been hounded out of the sport by their coaches/peers. Maybe there are some who have done so and are not public about it?

As for stripping of records, she was within the rules at the time.  Even if you accept them as they are now, those medals and records stand.

Out of curiosity, do you think that Rachel McKinnon is correct, and she should be able to compete with no hormone suppression? While I appreciate it is may not be optimal for health, I find it hard to balance that concept with a protected category for women. There are many athletes who will take action damaging to their health in order to be able to compete in a particular category (eg boxers/jockeys cutting to make weight), but we accept that in order to maintain the categorisation system.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on May 03, 2019, 03:41:27 pm
(BTW, why the quotation marks?)

Because, for one reason, among others:

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Trans women are women

The terminology around this subject is politically charged and philosophically problematic. I'll leave it at that for now.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jasmine on May 03, 2019, 04:49:16 pm
The campaign of hatred against trans women ... wins another casualty in Casters Semenya.

Caster Semenya is not a "trans woman"


I could look at a swimming or running champion like Sharron Davies or Paula Radcliffe, and shout "CHEAT!" back. They are both taller by far than the average woman, so have inborn genetic advantages. How does that differ from Semenya? Should we start excluding e.g. Kenyan distance runners because their genetics makes them "CHEATS!" due to their cardiovascular system?


It differs for 2 reasons:
1. As DuncanM has described, the female category in sports stands opposite the 'open' category.  At some levels, it is specified as male or female, but it is often 'open' and then 'female', with the latter being a restricted category. To have a restricted category, there needs to be a delineator.  The IAAF want to include testosterone, which is a substance known to increase performance, where there is a significant difference between male and female production.
2. The limit imposed is 3 times the 95th percentile of testosterone production in all women. In your example, Davies and Radcliffe would need to be nearly 5 metres tall. If they were 5 metres tall, I'm fairly certain people would consider that to be an unfair advantage.



Second, Casters, as I explained to Citoyen, is not trans. She is collateral damage resulting from a hate campaign against trans women driven by TERFs. You have hit the nail squarely there, because an awful lot of TERFs are out-and-out racists. "Posie Parker", for example, is a Tommy Yaxley-Pseudonym supporter. Other bigotry involves misandry (look up 'political lesbian') and biphobia. The general claim is that the single most oppressed group of people on the planet are affluent, white, well-educated women living in nice areas. The hate group meetings have a demography that almost entirely maps that of the KKK.



The questions surrounding Semenya have been ongoing since 2009, when she underwent a 'sex test' (unknown to her) before a major championships. Trying to claim that this is a hate campaign and representative of a trans issue is actually quite insulting to the woman who is simply trying to argue that she should be able to run as the woman she is. She's quite right to feel aggrieved - there hasn't been a consistent rule, and she has found herself at the sharp end of a system that can now test for things, whilst needing to ask 'should we test for these things?'

Telling Citoyen to check his privilege is jarring - women of colour often remind white women (and men) that feminism needs to be inclusive feminism. Using a woman of colour as your political football is no better than what you are accusing the people you refer to as TERFs of doing. Your posts also suggest that you perhaps haven't spent as much time reflecting on your own privilege as you are asking others to do - you refer to 'Casters' in all of your posts. If you were referring to the well-known cyclist Bradley Wiggins, would you refer to him as Bradley, or would you, as most commentators would, refer to him as 'Wiggins'? The tendency to refer to female sportspeople by their first name, and male sportspeople by their surname, is a form of gender discrimination.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on May 05, 2019, 04:46:00 pm
Jasmine, the reason I have stressed the trans issue is something you seem to have missed from my comments, and explanation to Citoyen et al: The person we are talking about is collateral damage in a campaign that has, from the start, been about trans women. It started with Navratilova, and was then picked up by Davies and Radcliffe. The term used all along has been "cheat".

Citoyen:
"The terminology around this subject is politically charged and philosophically problematic. I'll leave it at that for now."

No. Not acceptable, and false equivalence, unless you also think that discussions about race and sexuality should also be treated as "politically etc".

For example:
Gay "marriage".
Black "people".

Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on May 07, 2019, 07:00:34 pm
In a parallel universe, someone has just mentioned their own private parallel universe in which Forest Green Rovers are Premier League champions. And this person was not Jaded!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: andyoxon on May 07, 2019, 09:55:09 pm
Liverpool v Barcelona...  :o
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on May 07, 2019, 10:19:27 pm
That last goal!
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fimm on May 08, 2019, 12:12:07 pm
Her name is Caster Semenya. Not Casters.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: citoyen on May 08, 2019, 01:13:16 pm
That last goal!

I'm not going to get tired of watching that in a hurry.

For anyone who missed it:
https://twitter.com/GaryLineker/status/1125888430511132675
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: mcshroom on May 08, 2019, 10:07:47 pm
That last goal!
... and again! This time just how late it was.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on May 09, 2019, 09:06:33 am
Quote from: fimm on Yesterday at 12:12:07 pm
Her name is Caster Semenya. Not Casters.


My error. Now, I note that the regulations that have come in for "DSD" athletes [an abbreviation abhorred by I/VSC people like me, whichever of the words the first 'D' is meant to stand for) ONLY apply to those with XY conditions. In other words, the shouting and yelling about cheating and unfair advantage of extra testosterone only applies to intersex people with XY chromosomes. Not I/VSC or endosex people with XX genotypes.

In other words, endosex women with e.g. polycystic ovary syndrome (one symptom: excess T) or XX intersex people with congenital adrenal hyperplasia (main symptom: excess T) are not being targeted.

Jasmine, as you can see, your explanation about T-levels is correct only in as far as the new regs will apply to a specific group of intersex women, and only them. In short, a perfectly normal genetic variation, as normal as hair colour, is being singled out for control.

As for this idea of "open" versus "women's" categories. that is not correct. The division has always been male or female. This "open" nonsense is an artefact of the anti-trans lobby, whose hatred of one tiny group of women has led directly to the ruin of another woman's sporting career. But then the bigots don't actually give a shit who gets hurt, as long as they can shout "PENIS!" at trans women and call it "reasonable, evidence-based debate"

Sharron Davies, just to confirm my suspicions of "Oh, her skin's a bit dark, isn't it?"-ism, is now retweeting posts from Nick Griffin. That was followed by her comments about Africa being a bit backward.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Jaded on May 09, 2019, 09:19:28 am
In a parallel universe, someone has just mentioned their own private parallel universe in which Forest Green Rovers are Premier League champions. And this person was not Jaded!

A couple more years yet, I think!

Play-off semi final tomorrow, with Tranmere up for revenge for the play-off final two years ago.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on May 09, 2019, 09:42:05 am
In a parallel universe, someone has just mentioned their own private parallel universe in which Forest Green Rovers are Premier League champions. And this person was not Jaded!

A couple more years yet, I think!

Play-off semi final tomorrow, with Tranmere up for revenge for the play-off final two years ago.
My prediction: Rovers for the win! But which Rovers?
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on May 09, 2019, 02:44:34 pm

Play-off semi final tomorrow, with Tranmere up for revenge for the play-off final two years ago.


This could lead to ructions among the members of Half Man Half Biscuit, since Nigel Blackwell and bassist Neil Crossley are rabid Tranmere supporters while drummer Carl Henry has been spotted wearing an FGR shirt during gigs.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: rafletcher on May 19, 2019, 09:26:29 pm
Well done Billy Monger!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Wowbagger on May 26, 2019, 03:27:43 pm
https://www.theguardian.com/football/live/2019/may/26/charlton-athletic-v-sunderland-league-one-play-off-final-live

I don't know if the people in charge of the graphics have given that page any thought at all.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on May 27, 2019, 12:39:56 pm
Come on you Reds ;D  Professor Larrington anf lifelong Charlton supporter Dr Davis were there.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Steph on June 04, 2019, 04:00:25 pm
A fair and balanced evidence-based debate.

https://twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1135605424336572416
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fd3 on June 25, 2019, 12:56:53 pm
I rarely purchase a jersey from my#localteam.  I should stick with this policy, as they have lost 4 matches in a row since I bought it.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Mr Larrington on June 25, 2019, 08:05:06 pm
Someone left a Liverpool FC beanie hat on a fence post next to today's obligatory standing stone.  May well be the most northerly Liverpool FC beanie hat in BRITAIN.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: fd3 on July 13, 2019, 11:24:32 am
I rarely purchase a jersey from my#localteam.  I should stick with this policy, as they have lost 4 matches in a row since I bought it.
Since it has been in the wash and hiding in the closet my#localteam have won all their games.  I would be tempted to burn it if it would continue our unbeaten run.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on July 13, 2019, 11:29:58 am
You should post it to a random address in the town of your#local team's biggest rivals.
Title: Re: A random thread for sport things that don't really warrant a thread of their own
Post by: T42 on July 13, 2019, 01:21:39 pm
Mayor of the 8e Arrondissement of Paris after the Algerian football team reached the final of the Coupe d'Affrique and their supporters in Paris converged on the Champs Elysées:

"It's not normal to celebrate your team winning with petrol bombs and a chain saw".