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Title: The women's road race
Post by: rogerzilla on August 10, 2008, 10:35:55 am
About time too!

The "Welsh" weather may have helped  :o
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: fiendish on August 10, 2008, 10:39:25 am
She scared Hugh a bit though coming round that corner so far behind!

Fantastic ride for team GB.  Horrible weather.
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: Chris S on August 10, 2008, 10:41:37 am
Fantastic Sunday morning TV!

Nice work Team GB - and great win Nicole Cooke.

What happened in the last 1km? She seemed to have dropped off the group at one point...
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: rower40 on August 10, 2008, 10:42:47 am
+1.
Puts the quote from the Sunday Times into perspective:
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...while all four British cyclists in the men's road race were among the 53 riders who dropped out of the 245km event because of the intense heat and humidity.
Well done Ms Cooke.
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: Jaded on August 10, 2008, 10:44:55 am
That was emotional!
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: blackpuddinonnabike on August 10, 2008, 10:50:23 am
That was emotional!

Certainly was! I can only imagine she had a problem on one of the last corners to drop off the leaders (the camera work really wasn't up to much!) - amazing to come back from that gap, and remarkably poor weather (and commentating).
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: dkahn400 on August 10, 2008, 10:59:13 am
That was emotional!

Certainly was! I can only imagine she had a problem on one of the last corners to drop off the leaders (the camera work really wasn't up to much!) - amazing to come back from that gap, and remarkably poor weather (and commentating).

She may have missed a gear change? It did cause a momentary heart flutter at Chateau Kahn, but apart from that one moment she seemed to ride a near perfect race. Fantastic.  :D
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: vince on August 10, 2008, 11:02:55 am
Is there a video link yet? I can't see anything on iPlayer.

Great news though :D
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: toekneep on August 10, 2008, 11:03:41 am
Excellent stuff. I must admit I was convinced she had gone too early but what a finish. That should be a great boost to the track gang as well. Well done Nicole.

All we need now if for Adrian Chiles to come along and congratulate her on not falling off.  ;D
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: Fixedwheelnut on August 10, 2008, 11:05:33 am
 Well done for Nicole Cooke and her team mates who did a great job supporting her this time  :thumbsup:

 I've been a fan of Nicole's since she won all three titles in one year, for too long she has been overlooked by the press, having now won the first gold medal of the games for UK she bloody well better get some  :thumbsup: ;D
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: dkahn400 on August 10, 2008, 11:17:08 am
having now won the first gold medal of the games for UK she bloody well better get some  :thumbsup: ;D

Oh, she won't have any trouble getting some. Oh, I see what you mean.   :)
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: epa611 on August 10, 2008, 11:33:53 am
Bah!  Spoiler :(

Haven't watched it yet.

Please alter post
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: andrew_s on August 10, 2008, 12:05:43 pm
I can only imagine she had a problem on one of the last corners to drop off the leaders (the camera work really wasn't up to much!) - amazing to come back from that gap, and remarkably poor weather (and commentating).
There was a left bend with lots of paint just before the toll booths where Sharon Laws came off earlier. She may have had a moment there. The coverage was showing the main bunch coming under the 1k flag at the time.

Keeping a low profile all season so that someone else (Vos) was the marked favourite probably helped. There didn't seem to be much reaction when she joined the Austrian to bridge across to GuderiniGuderzo's attack, just after the top of the main climb. The Germans chasing in the last 6km or so weren't making much impression either, after chasing down Emma Pooley on the way up the main climb. The benefits of having a team a strong as everyone else's  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: Rhys W on August 10, 2008, 12:10:10 pm
She's come a long way since she used to beat me in the club 10 years ago!  :thumbsup:

There's a short clip of the finish here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/cycling/7552294.stm)
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: rogerzilla on August 10, 2008, 12:16:42 pm
Longo did incredibly well considering she's 10 years older than me...and I'm Jurassic compared to most racing cyclists.
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on August 10, 2008, 12:18:48 pm
wonderful
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: Manotea on August 10, 2008, 12:31:52 pm
How exciting was that!

She gave us all  scare on that last turn; I'm looking foward to an interview.
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: Clare on August 10, 2008, 12:33:41 pm
Yay, well done Nicole and the team  :thumbsup: :D.

I can only imagine she had a problem on one of the last corners to drop off the leaders (the camera work really wasn't up to much!) - amazing to come back from that gap, and remarkably poor weather (and commentating).
There was a left bend with lots of paint just before the toll booths where Sharon Laws came off earlier. She may have had a moment there. The coverage was showing the main bunch coming under the 1k flag at the time.

I remember (possibly incorrectly) that she rode into a barrier in Athens when chasing the leaders, maybe, considering the attrocious conditions, she just took the corner very carefully to avoid a repeat of that.

Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: andrew_s on August 10, 2008, 01:04:30 pm
There was a left bend with lots of paint just before the toll booths where Sharon Laws came off earlier. She may have had a moment there. The coverage was showing the main bunch coming under the 1k flag at the time.
I remember (possibly incorrectly) that she rode into a barrier in Athens when chasing the leaders, maybe, considering the attrocious conditions, she just took the corner very carefully to avoid a repeat of that.
She nearly went into a stone wall near the end of the Commonwealth Games RR.
I was thinking more of losing the right line on the corner after getting on the paint. She didn't lose enough time to have actually come off.
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: GruB on August 10, 2008, 01:06:58 pm
I was in the cafe eating my cooked breakfast and we all got to watch the last 6km on the wide screen TV.
It was very exciting.
I did get concerned when she dropped off the back at the end but I wonder if it was not just the paint but also a tactic to make them think she was not in the sprint for the end, enabling her to wind up and come through?
Top TV.  Top ride.  Great for the sport.
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: Jaded on August 10, 2008, 01:15:16 pm
We watched some on the small screen then moved to the 9' screen.

At times we were dodging the spray. I said to the kids after the last bend "Oh, that's it, 4th".

Oh ye of little faith!
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: Aidan on August 10, 2008, 03:00:52 pm
A superb win. It obviously meant a lot to her as well!  Well well deserved.  She was quick to thank her team mates as well, which was nice.
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: julianbramley on August 10, 2008, 04:01:17 pm
Cheers you tw*t
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: GruB on August 10, 2008, 04:04:48 pm
A superb win. It obviously meant a lot to her as well!  Well well deserved.  She was quick to thank her team mates as well, which was nice.

I too found her beaming smile and celebration with team mates and team staff very happy to watch.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: rogerzilla on August 10, 2008, 04:14:59 pm
Cheers you tw*t

 ???
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: GruB on August 10, 2008, 05:37:46 pm
I think the fact that the result has been included in the title of the thread has spoilt it for some.
Luckily I watched it live so I knew before I read it on here.
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: rogerzilla on August 10, 2008, 05:41:33 pm
Ah, I see.  Calling a forum admin a tw*t is not normally a good thing, but I'm not vindictive, nor do I really care after half a bottle of claret.

Did you know Darth Vader was Luke's father?  ;)
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Chris S on August 10, 2008, 06:02:50 pm
Ah, I see.  Calling a forum admin a tw*t is not normally a good thing, but I'm not vindictive, nor do I really care after half a bottle of claret.

Being an admin shouldn't make you immune to people's ire when you've given away a monumental spoiler though... ;)

Ah well... nobody died, eh?
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: rogerzilla on August 10, 2008, 06:21:16 pm
Ah, I see.  Calling a forum admin a tw*t is not normally a good thing, but I'm not vindictive, nor do I really care after half a bottle of claret.

Being an admin shouldn't make you immune to people's ire when you've given away a monumental spoiler though... ;)

Ah well... nobody died, eh?

I changed the thread title anyway.
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: dkahn400 on August 10, 2008, 08:20:39 pm
Ah well... nobody died, eh?

Would you mind posting a spoiler warning before giving away vital information like that?   :)
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: gonzo on August 10, 2008, 08:40:49 pm
Would you mind posting a spoiler warning before giving away vital information like that?   :)

New thread title: "Spoiler - Cooke won gold". Any better?
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: spesh on August 10, 2008, 09:10:27 pm
Proper respect to all the riders  :thumbsup: , it looked absolutely horrible out there - although the air was probably a tad more breathable...  :demon:
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Jaded on August 10, 2008, 09:13:27 pm
As mentioned elsewhere, I don't really get this spoiler thing. If you really don't want to know who won, step away from the computer. Put the keyboard down!

It's a forum of cycling enthusiasts. They are likely to get enthused by an amazing performance. Possibly even post about it!

How long should we be careful about mentioning she who shall not be named? Is next week OK?  ;D
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Maladict on August 10, 2008, 09:20:19 pm
Because people come here for more than just the one thread.  You're asking them to stay away from the forum for the entire two weeks of the Olympics so other people who are lucky enough to have already seen the result, can avoid having to be trivially considerate.
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Jaded on August 10, 2008, 09:24:13 pm
No, I'm suggesting that if you don't watch the race live and you make efforts in the rest of your life to stay away from all news output then the onus is on you rather than all the other posters to ensure you don't pick up the news from the forum.

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You're asking them to stay away from the forum for the entire two weeks of the Olympics

To be honest - if you aren't going to watch the race until after the end of the Olympics then it is going to get spoiled for you.  :)
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: dkahn400 on August 10, 2008, 09:28:54 pm
Would you mind posting a spoiler warning before giving away vital information like that?   :)

New thread title: "Spoiler - Cooke won gold". Any better?

Humour bypass?
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Maladict on August 10, 2008, 09:39:40 pm
No, I'm suggesting that if you don't watch the race live and you make efforts in the rest of your life to stay away from all news output then the onus is on you rather than all the other posters to ensure you don't pick up the news from the forum.

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You're asking them to stay away from the forum for the entire two weeks of the Olympics

To be honest - if you aren't going to watch the race until after the end of the Olympics then it is going to get spoiled for you.  :)

Are there no other cycling events during the Olympics, then?
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Chris S on August 10, 2008, 09:47:09 pm
I see the result probably isn't that important with the beeb. Their RSS feed today had "Phelps wins first Gold" as the highest placed Olympics story. Now the most important sports story is "Man U 0 : Portsmouth 0".

No mention of Team GB's first Gold at all.

 ::-)
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Wowbagger on August 10, 2008, 09:52:20 pm
Well, it's ruined it for me. I'd completely forgotten the Olympics were on and was looking forward to 2012! ;)
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: clarion on August 10, 2008, 10:00:26 pm
Respect to Cooke:

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It was the first ever medal from a British female cyclist, the first gold from a Welsh athlete since 1972, and Great Britain's 200th gold medal in Olympic history.

And to Emma Pooley and Sharon Laws, who worked well as Cooke's domestiques, and finished 23rd and 35th respectively.
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Chris S on August 10, 2008, 10:06:57 pm
Hmm... 2012....

We had a conversation about this at the family dinner table this evening,

It revolved around the fantastic views on today's race in Beijing; under the Great Wall a few times, up a mountain twice, and through some brilliant scenery.

If you go on the London 2012 site - it merely says "Regents Park" for the road races.

 ::-)

Great - this year they go in and out of a 3000 yr old piece of history;; in four years time they get to ride round and round a f*cking zoo.
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Maladict on August 10, 2008, 10:08:13 pm
Send 'em on a tour of the Henges.
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Salvatore on August 10, 2008, 10:15:52 pm

It revolved around the fantastic views on today's race in Beijing; under the Great Wall a few times, up a mountain twice, and through some brilliant scenery.


That wasn't the original plan.
 http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2008/olympics08/?id=/features/2008/olympic_road_race_course (http://www.cyclingnews.com/road/2008/olympics08/?id=/features/2008/olympic_road_race_course)

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Back in 2002, the CCA's initial proposal was to hold the road race along Beijing's uninspiring fourth ring highway. This huge, eight-lane motorway encircles the city – and is completely flat. Worse still, it's utterly uneventful.

Insiders claim the presentation of the circuit to the International Cycling Union (UCI) consisted of little more than a photocopied map with a yellow marker tracing the loop.
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Maladict on August 10, 2008, 10:58:34 pm
I see the result probably isn't that important with the beeb. Their RSS feed today had "Phelps wins first Gold" as the highest placed Olympics story. Now the most important sports story is "Man U 0 : Portsmouth 0".

No mention of Team GB's first Gold at all.

 ::-)

The top story on BBC News Sport page right now is "Cooke grabs first GB gold medal" with the large iPlayer window showing the finish of the race.  I don't see how they could have given it more prominence tbh. :)
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Jaded on August 10, 2008, 11:57:02 pm
Bloody BBC.

Can't keep a secret, can they!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: GruB on August 11, 2008, 05:44:23 am
There are 23 pics up on Bikeradar HERE (http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/olympic-womens-road-race-nicole-cooke-gets-it-17968) that show a beaming Ms Cooke and a large gold medal  ;D

Something that struck me yesterday during the coverage was how fit she looked over previous years.  Even her arms look stronger and more toned.

Great exposure for CBoardman bikes too  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Rapples on August 11, 2008, 06:48:56 am
Hmm... 2012....


If you go on the London 2012 site - it merely says "Regents Park" for the road races.

 ::-)


What the next olympics are in London :o :o :o

You just have to spoil it for everyone don't you :'(
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: her_welshness on August 11, 2008, 08:05:59 am
Ecstatic is not the word   :)  :)  :)

I was actually in tears at the end of the race. Go Team GB - lets hope they get some track glory!
Title: Re: Nicole Cooke's just won gold
Post by: Frenchie on August 11, 2008, 08:43:49 am
Longo did incredibly well considering she's 10 years older than me...and I'm Jurassic compared to most racing cyclists.

Yes she was not far.

But very well done Cookie. Such sheer and simple pleasure. The type of cyclists I like. Bravo!
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on August 11, 2008, 09:59:01 am
There are 23 pics up on Bikeradar HERE (http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/olympic-womens-road-race-nicole-cooke-gets-it-17968) that show a beaming Ms Cooke and a large gold medal  ;D

Something that struck me yesterday during the coverage was how fit she looked over previous years.  Even her arms look stronger and more toned.

Great exposure for CBoardman bikes too  :thumbsup:
Thanks for that link.
Wonderful set of photos, it was so incredibly wet!.

Good shots of Nicole. She is a real animal on a bike, reminds me of Bernard Hinault. I wouldn't like to get in her way.
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: mattc on August 11, 2008, 10:51:02 am
There are 23 pics up on Bikeradar HERE (http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/olympic-womens-road-race-nicole-cooke-gets-it-17968) that show a beaming Ms Cooke and a large gold medal  ;D

Something that struck me yesterday during the coverage was how fit she looked over previous years.  Even her arms look stronger and more toned.

Great exposure for CBoardman bikes too  :thumbsup:
Thanks for that link.
Wonderful set of photos, it was so incredibly wet!.

Good shots of Nicole. She is a real animal on a bike, reminds me of Bernard Hinault. I wouldn't like to get in her way.

... and yet really genuinely pleased about the result, in a sort of  non-aggressive kind of way. If that makes any sense!
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Frenchie on August 11, 2008, 11:07:11 am
... and yet really genuinely pleased about the result, in a sort of  non-aggressive kind of way. If that makes any sense!

It does!!
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: mattc on August 11, 2008, 12:21:58 pm
Liked this:
Beijing Olympics: Champion Nicole Cooke's childhood training secrets  - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/olympics/2535152/Beijing-Olympics-Champion-Nicole-Cookes-childhood-training-secrets.html)

especially:
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[Dad Tony:]"When she was 14 she was waiting for me to go for a ride with her when she said: 'You don't have to come with me. I get cold waiting for you at the top of the hills.'"


However, his support for his daughter has landed him in trouble: at the Athens Olympics in 2004, the day before Miss Cooke's road race, he was caught painting her name on the street and arrested, but later released without charge.
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: Riggers on August 11, 2008, 04:37:57 pm
Has no one mentioned those rather nice looking metal road barriers, that had been made to look like bendy logs, that the ladies had to cycle pass? I thought they were aesthetically jolly good.
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: fungus on August 11, 2008, 07:28:14 pm
Fantastic! well deserved and about time after the last olympics & the last couple of worlds.  The changes she has made to her racing & all the preperation work has finally paid off.
It made for a great sunday morning ride :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: alecstilleyedye on August 11, 2008, 10:54:52 pm
i think she's got a good chance in the time trial. how often have we seen an athlete win their main event, only to carry the form through to another one and win again (kelly holmes springs to mind).

she's in great form, the course is suitable for her, she's a former junior world tt champion and has won the time trial stages in the tour de france. the bookies might not rate her chances, but i do.
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: scampi on August 12, 2008, 01:40:44 pm
^^^ great pics BTW.

I was really pleased to hear this. I was out for a Sunday morning ride and had stopped at the post office in Sixpenny Handley for a drink and was told "our girl did it!" by a passer-by -- made my ride.
Title: Re: The women's road race
Post by: gonzo on August 12, 2008, 04:52:44 pm
I was really pleased to hear this. I was out for a Sunday morning ride and had stopped at the post office in Sixpenny Handley for a drink and was told "our girl did it!" by a passer-by -- made my ride.

Did you tell them that they should have said that they were about to issue a spoiler first? ;)