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Off Topic => The Pub => The Sporting Life => Topic started by: Domestique on March 24, 2013, 12:05:17 pm

Title: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Domestique on March 24, 2013, 12:05:17 pm
Seems to have been completely missed by mainstream media  :-\
Refused to swap shirts with Israel player after the recent World Cup qualifiying game. There are also reports that he auctioned his golden boot award to donate to Palestinian schools in Gazza.

http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php/palestine-and-israel/2336-worlds-most-expensive-footballer-cristiano-ronaldo-shows-again-his-solidarity-with-palestinians

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Cristiano Ronaldo, the world's most expensive footballer, very pointedly walked past Israeli players who were offering to swap shirts.

If mods want to move this to P&OBI please do.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Wowbagger on March 24, 2013, 09:15:03 pm
Well I never. How people can surprise you and go up in your estimation.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Jakob on March 26, 2013, 05:11:34 am
Seems to have been completely missed by mainstream media  :-\
Refused to swap shirts with Israel player after the recent World Cup qualifiying game. There are also reports that he auctioned his golden boot award to donate to Palestinian schools in Gazza.

http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php/palestine-and-israel/2336-worlds-most-expensive-footballer-cristiano-ronaldo-shows-again-his-solidarity-with-palestinians

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Cristiano Ronaldo, the world's most expensive footballer, very pointedly walked past Israeli players who were offering to swap shirts.

If mods want to move this to P&OBI please do.

That kind of crap does not belong on the football field...and I say that as a strong opponent of Israel's policies towards Palestine.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Jaded on March 26, 2013, 10:39:04 am
Quite.

He should have refused to play.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: rafletcher on March 26, 2013, 10:41:20 am
And donated a significant part of his far from insignificant earnings to the cause. (Of course he might...)
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: LEE on March 26, 2013, 10:46:45 am
Seems to have been completely missed by mainstream media  :-\
Refused to swap shirts with Israel player after the recent World Cup qualifiying game. There are also reports that he auctioned his golden boot award to donate to Palestinian schools in Gazza.

http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php/palestine-and-israel/2336-worlds-most-expensive-footballer-cristiano-ronaldo-shows-again-his-solidarity-with-palestinians

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Cristiano Ronaldo, the world's most expensive footballer, very pointedly walked past Israeli players who were offering to swap shirts.

If mods want to move this to P&OBI please do.

That kind of crap does not belong on the football field...and I say that as a strong opponent of Israel's policies towards Palestine.

No, it belongs in political discussions between the President of America and the Prime Minister of Israel.
Oh..hold on....they forgot to discuss it.....again.

This stands more of a chance of raising awareness of the issue than decades of Politicians skirting around the issue.

Good on him.  Footballers are damned if they do and damned if they don't.

...and I hope more footballers start walking off the field as a result of racist chanting.  Football doesn't exist outside of world affairs.  It's a fantastic stage to make a point.

Ronaldo didn't spoil the game, he didn't boycott it...he used a very simple gesture to raise awareness.

Example:  Here's a bunch of cyclists talking about Israel and Palestine.

Example 2:  Wowbagger has now heard of Ronaldo.  I'd say that was an achievement right up there with solving the Gaza issue.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Wowbagger on March 26, 2013, 10:50:34 am
Seems to have been completely missed by mainstream media  :-\
Refused to swap shirts with Israel player after the recent World Cup qualifiying game. There are also reports that he auctioned his golden boot award to donate to Palestinian schools in Gazza.

http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php/palestine-and-israel/2336-worlds-most-expensive-footballer-cristiano-ronaldo-shows-again-his-solidarity-with-palestinians

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Cristiano Ronaldo, the world's most expensive footballer, very pointedly walked past Israeli players who were offering to swap shirts.

If mods want to move this to P&OBI please do.

That kind of crap does not belong on the football field...and I say that as a strong opponent of Israel's policies towards Palestine.

That's what was said over cricket, D'Oliveira and apartheid.

It was sport that began the process that brought apartheid down. However, I don't see the Israelis being quite so sport-mad as the South Africans. Boycotting their sport really hit them where it hurt.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: LEE on March 26, 2013, 10:54:32 am
I don't see the Israelis being quite so sport-mad as the South Africans. Boycotting their sport really hit them where it hurt.

I just threw my Jaffa cake in the bin.  It's a long march to freedom.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: clarion on March 26, 2013, 12:31:59 pm
I was pleasantly surprised to hear of this gesture by Ronaldo, and of his other work.

Good on him.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on March 26, 2013, 12:37:29 pm
Wasn't it Robbie Fowler who was disciplined by his club for wearing a Support the Liverpool DocKers tshirt during the lock-out?
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Wowbagger on March 26, 2013, 01:54:39 pm
Wasn't it Robbie Fowler who was disciplined by his club for wearing a Support the Liverpool DocKers tshirt during the lock-out?

It was.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: LEE on March 26, 2013, 01:58:02 pm
Wasn't it Robbie Fowler who was disciplined by his club for wearing a Support the Liverpool DocKers tshirt during the lock-out?

It was.

..and for pretending to snort a (white) line of cocaine off the pitch as a goal celebration.

I'm fairly sure Robbie Fowler thinks Palestine is the stuff Wallace & Grommit are made from.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Wowbagger on March 26, 2013, 02:00:37 pm
I'd forgotten about the white line incident. That was a reference to Arsenal, wasn't it? I thought it was quite funny.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Basil on March 26, 2013, 02:54:41 pm
*Struggles with memory*
Wasn't it Mr. Fowler who on being awarded a penalty, informed the referee that it wasn't a pen?
The ref then reversed the decision.
He went up in my estimation for that. (Fowler, not the ref)
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Deano on March 26, 2013, 02:58:52 pm
That was Robbie Fowler. He then took - and missed - the subsequent penalty.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Peter on March 26, 2013, 03:24:24 pm
I think poor Robbie is a bit mixed-up; he's done some genuinely funny things but I didn't he once drop his pants at Graeme Lesaux when it became known that Le Saux read The Guardian and was therefore gay? 
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: bobb on March 26, 2013, 04:19:22 pm
That was a reference to Arsenal, wasn't it? I thought it was quite funny.

IIRC, the tabloids* had recently reported that Robbie had been seen snorting coke in a night club. The Everton fans were reminding him of this constantly during the game. So his response after scoring was to snort the touch line right in front of them.

I thought it was quite funny too. Fucking hilarious, in fact  :P

* So it must be true
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Jakob on March 26, 2013, 06:46:31 pm

Ronaldo didn't spoil the game, he didn't boycott it...he used a very simple gesture to raise awareness.


And disrespected his opponents, who may or may not support the policies of the Israeli government, but clearly likes playing football.

If he really dislikes Israel's policy towards Palestine that much, he should have refused to play and I would have applauded it...instead he was just being a dick.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Wowbagger on March 26, 2013, 09:02:15 pm
Nonsense. The point about a gesture like this is that people notice. None of the players on the Israeli team would have known anything about his views if he hadn't played. Much better to do what he did: he still gets to play for his country and, so far as I know, what he did doesn't contravene any contract, which Fowler did.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Jakob on March 26, 2013, 10:18:34 pm
So, Wow, if someone refused to shake your hand after a chess match because of where you lived, what would you think of that person?
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: andyoxon on March 27, 2013, 12:25:42 am
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Refused to swap shirts with Israel player after the recent World Cup qualifiying game. There are also reports that he auctioned his golden boot award to donate to Palestinian schools in Gazza.
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Having watched the short video I can see elements in both sides in all this...

He did shake hands with a player, but drew the line at swapping his shirt.  This doesn't seem too extreme as actions go tbh. 

Though it may have been political gesture of sorts on the pitch - and possible prejudice shown to fellow, validly competing player.  Politcal gestures at a personal level in sport, don't 'sit' well IMO.

Proceeds (£1.5m) of personal auction to Palestine?  Yes fair enough - helping people while highlighting an issue more positively; off pitch.

Re. apartheid and (sport) football (wiki).  South Africa was suspended from FIFA in 1963. 
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Wowbagger on March 27, 2013, 12:40:38 am
It was the cricket boycott that really hurt them though.

That and being beaten by the Lions in the 1970s tour. I was against that tour taking place initially, but watching Gareth Edwards, JPR et al giving the Springboks a roasting was wonderful. From memory the lions played 22 matches and won 21, drawing the last. The SA team was known for its violence and dirty play so the Lions had their "99" call, in which they just waded in when things got tough, in the knowledge that the ref wouldn't discipline the SA players properly.

What really rubbed the salt into the wounds for the SA rugby hierarchy was that the crowds were segregated and the blacks were all cheering on the British Lions!
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Jakob on March 27, 2013, 07:44:31 am

He did shake hands with a player, but drew the line at swapping his shirt.  This doesn't seem too extreme as actions go tbh. 


Ok, fair enough..not as bad as I thought...although I still think he's being a douche.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: LEE on December 11, 2013, 01:00:14 pm
Deviating from his personal views and concentrating on his football skills for a moment...he's bloody good isn't he?

When he was at Man U it was clear he was gifted but it took him a while to lose his "all show and no end product" tag.

He's moved up several levels since he left United and now it seems he has more end product than any one else on the planet...including Messi.  Quite an extraordinary athlete.

Never imagined myself saying this but he's probably better than Messi right now, which makes him the best in the world.

Youtube videos will have you saying "He can't possibly score from th.........Oh, he just did...and again...and again"
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: clarion on December 11, 2013, 01:14:12 pm
Now it seems he's got over his rolling on the floor phase, I do admire his skill.  Not sure he rates above Messi, but it is astonishing how many all-time great players there are in the game right now.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: andyoxon on December 14, 2013, 01:35:36 pm
Not my favourite football personality (as it were); but he's very good on the ball, and possibly one of the all time greats.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: mattc on October 13, 2016, 06:33:05 pm
From Yahoo Sport:

Cristiano Ronaldo has the mental age of a 12-year-old, according to former Manchester United teammate Mads Timm, though he believes the Real Madrid star benefits from his selfishness.

Timm spent six years at Old Trafford from 2000, but made just one first-team appearance, coming on against Maccabi Haifa in the Champions League and had loan spells at Viking, Lyn and Walsall before his departure.

The Dane may not have had a prosperous spell at United, but he remembers sharing a dressing room with Ronaldo and pointed out the Portugual international's self-centered mentality.

"He's completely indifferent to the collective side of the game," Timm wrote in his biographyRed Devil."It was 'me, me, me'. Today, after so much success, he can still get annoyed when one of his team mates scored instead of him.

"Mentally, he reminds me of when I was a 12-year-old. I think he doesn't care what people think of him and that's one of the reasons why he has been able to survive in professional football."

But Timm, 31, was in awe of Ronaldo's confidence and said he struggled whenever he came up against the three-time Ballon d'Or winner in training.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: LEE on October 14, 2016, 10:57:03 am
Ronaldo was 18 when he signed for United, understandable if he was immature.

If you hear his United colleagues talk about him they almost always say they never saw anyone train as hard or anyone more focused on becoming the best.
He became the best.

He strikes me as amazingly well-rounded considering who and what he is.

Like Messi, and other greats, he operates at a different level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD2NhMPPuf0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD2NhMPPuf0)
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: asterix on June 30, 2017, 08:03:08 am
Ronaldo confirms he is father of twins after Portugal defeat (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-40441888)

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Hours after he captained Portugal to semi-final defeat in the Confederations Cup in Russia, Cristiano Ronaldo has announced the birth of twins.

What a strange game that must have been.  :o
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: LEE on February 15, 2018, 10:31:30 pm
Ronaldo has now scored more goals, himself, than all the players from 118 of the 137 teams to ever compete in the Champions league.

117 Goals in total.

Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: LEE on February 26, 2019, 10:17:39 am
Just thought I'd mention that Messi now has 50 hat-tricks !!!

If you're a football fan then here they all are...

https://youtu.be/4tiVpETLWms (https://youtu.be/4tiVpETLWms)

It's clear, when watching him, that he sees things differently to other players.  He's operating in the Matrix, where everyone else is in slow-motion.
Title: Re: Cristiano Ronaldo
Post by: Wowbagger on February 27, 2019, 10:06:26 pm
Where can I find them if i’m Not a football fan? (Slopes off to pedants’ corner). ;)