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Title: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on June 03, 2013, 03:09:16 pm
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/10096141/British-Cycling-president-Brian-Cookson-to-stand-for-president-of-UCI.html

A change for the better, given that he previously gave unreserved support to McQuaid?
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: canny colin on June 04, 2013, 11:14:58 pm
there are more details on the British cycling WEBKINS SITE . Mr cookson would get my vote .
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Justin(e) on June 14, 2013, 11:41:50 am
I think that McQuaid is a gonner.

http://www.irishpeloton.com/2013/06/the-pat-mcquaid-file/
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Hot Flatus on June 14, 2013, 12:34:54 pm
I think so too, as some of the Swiss Fed are turning too.

However, with old boy networks like this you never know. It's not a meritocracy.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: David Martin on June 14, 2013, 01:22:02 pm
It's a chumocracy - it depends on old friends and is soon full of sharks.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on June 14, 2013, 03:41:37 pm
Its the 'behind the scenes' influence that Hein Verdruggen may still wield that worries me. P McQ was his protege, and some say is still his sockpuppet.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Nuncio on June 15, 2013, 12:18:00 pm
McQuaid nomination has been defeated at Cycling Ireland EGM by 91 to 74. 
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Veloman on June 15, 2013, 04:34:31 pm
McQuaid nomination has been defeated at Cycling Ireland EGM by 91 to 74.
Didn't he expect this and is going to be nominated by Switzerland as he lives there?
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Nuncio on June 15, 2013, 05:48:13 pm
Well, it's all a bit murky.  According to Pat he has already been nominated by the Swiss Federation.  But that is being challenged by the ubiquitous Jamie Fuller and the Swiss national coach because they contend that a vote did not happen. Meanwhile, David Walsh is reporting that the last UCI management committee was  somewhat stormy, because Mike Plant, a US delegate, presented a report on PMcQ he had commissioned from hired investigators.  Said report features, amongst other things, his relationship with LA.   
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: spesh on June 16, 2013, 04:24:22 pm
It's been hinted that there was a vote of no-confidence in Pat McQaid at said meeting, though there is no news as yet as to the result of the vote.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/could-pat-mcquaid-face-a-vote-of-no-confidence-at-uci-management-committee
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mike-plant-publicly-ends-his-support-of-pat-mcquaid

Velonation are reporting that three members of the of board of Swiss Cycling - not just the former national coach - have taken legal action concerning the McQuaid nomination:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/14766/Buergi-Galli-and-Calcagni-combine-in-legal-action-against-Swiss-Cycling-over-McQuaid-nomination.aspx

Interesting times...
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: jane on June 24, 2013, 08:28:13 pm
At least he is saying something useful about women's cycling in his manifesto.  Hope he delivers if he gets it.
http://www.briancookson.org/files/6313/7208/9499/Manifesto_BC_English.pdf
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on June 24, 2013, 09:06:30 pm
I think we're about to witness a house of cards falling down.  It's been a long time coming..

It's interesting, but not surprising, to see the retesting of '98 tour urine samples revealing across-the-board EPO use.  Laurent Jalabert is the first to be named and it seems more will follow.  I'd be slightly sad about Fignon and very grumpy at Lemond if the historic retesting continues to earlier years, but not suprised about those either.

More worryingly I think we will see a lot more tests from this and last season prove positive now that new tests are being applied.  It will potentially provide a very rough early ride for the next UCI president - and I have no doubt Verbruggen and his hand puppet FP are doing all they can to suppress as much as they can for as long as they can.

The good thing is that it looks increasingly unlikely that FP will get reelected now.

Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Nuncio on June 24, 2013, 09:37:16 pm
 Interesting interview  (http://www.newstalk.ie/Ger-Gilroy-interviews-Pat-McQuaid) with McQuaid on Irish radio.  The interviewer is well informed on his subject, and while McQuaid dodges around in that politician-y way he has, a couple of blows are landed.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Foghat on June 25, 2013, 12:29:45 am
Great stuff! 

More than a couple of blows, I'd say - many of his answers were total gibbering drivel.  McQuaid was clearly a floundering wreck through most of that interview, and has just about dug his own grave with this latest display of imbecility.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on June 27, 2013, 11:28:28 am
Does anyone know if Cookson gets on with Verbruggen?  Will he get booted far into the long grass if Cookson becomes president?  That's what is needed, but I wonder if it would happen?  I don't really understand the background power base of the UCI setup and how the cycle industry interfaces with it.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Hot Flatus on June 27, 2013, 11:49:29 am
Cookson says that HV has not been attendance at any of the committee meetings that he has attended.

There has been an amusing development. Cookson has put out his manifesto. No overt crit of Phat, but some clear indications of things that need changing. One of which is that UCi should hand over anti-doping to a totally independent 3rd party, and that it should be a long way away from the presidents office (at present the anti-doping office is a few paces from Phat's office in the same building)

Phat has issued a retort attacking every single one of Cooksons proposals (rather than saying what he would do) including the above, saying that the UCI would love to devolve anti-doping but it is against WADA rules.




WADA have issued a reply saying that it isn't.

You couldn't make this stuff up. All Cookson has to do is sit back and let Phat do his work for him.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Nuncio on June 27, 2013, 03:03:38 pm
inrng's analysis of the independence issue (http://inrng.com/2013/04/uci-independent-anti-doping/) from a couple of months back.

So it already is 'independent' of the UCI. (But the two organizations share a building.  And a president)
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Hot Flatus on July 15, 2013, 09:22:56 am
Rumours that certain UCI board members have asked MQ to remove his candidature.

Apparently they have compromising material they will release if he doesn't
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Veloman on July 15, 2013, 09:35:38 am
And Armstrong would, no doubt, be willing to give more information unless he has some way back into limited competition which he might get via a truth and reconciliation process.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on July 30, 2013, 07:22:25 am
Meanwhile, a desperate FP, whose nomination is at risk of bring nullified due to the lack of support from his home nation, tries to change the rules halfway through the election process...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/10210128/Rivals-clash-over-battle-for-presidency-of-the-International-Cycling-Union.html
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on July 30, 2013, 10:14:55 am
I wonder what they're saying in Switzerland though.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: clarion on July 30, 2013, 11:30:40 am
That's pathetic.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: spesh on July 30, 2013, 11:47:44 am
As Flatus says up-thread, you couldn't make this stuff up. If it wasn't so serious, it would be absolutely hilarious.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on August 02, 2013, 09:43:45 pm
Well it went through.  I can  only imagine he's promised the asian Feds who are supporting him lots of lucrative brown envelopes races in coming years if he gets reelected.

It really is time for mutiny.  It's our money that talks and the cycling community just needs to find a way of saying that the UCI under FP will make them spend their money elsewhere.

In the miraculous, but increasingly likely, result of FP being reelected, I picture a breakaway  organisation to  take over governance for road racing, at least in Europe.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on August 02, 2013, 11:38:36 pm
Why at least in Europe? The way the UCI is structured, a candidate who does well in Europe is pretty likely to win the whole thing as Europe has 14 votes out of 42, the next biggest are Asia and America with 9 each. Cookson is talking about winning support in Oceania and Africa but that's only 10 votes altogether if every delegate from those two continents votes for him. And FP's nomination in Switzerland shows he can count on some support in Europe.

A breakaway would be good for many reasons, but would also be in danger of appearing elitist at a time when cycling is spreading out from its traditional European base. A bit like football, no longer a Euro-Latin monopoly, as FIFA recognises. Hard to say which of the two is more corrupt though.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: spesh on August 09, 2013, 02:59:46 pm
Pat McQuaid's nomination as a candidate for UCI prez is the gift that keeps on giving...

Swiss publication Neue Zürcher Zeitung claimed today that his membership of Swiss Cycling was only taken out in May - and it must have been very early in the month, given that Swiss Cycling nominated him for a third term on May 16th. Funny how it was just after Cycling Ireland had announced on April 26th that they were calling an EGM to discuss their nomination of him, neh?  :demon:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15191/Swiss-Cycling-confirms-that-McQuaid-only-became-a-member-in-May-of-this-year.aspx

And props to Malaysia's Sports Minister for telling the Malaysian National Cycling Federation to get their priorities right.  ;D

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15167/McQuaid-vs-Cookson-Malaysian-federation-told-to-concentrate-on-home-matters-rather-than-international-politics.aspx
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: spesh on August 17, 2013, 05:48:48 pm
A number of news outlets are running with a story that broke on insidethegames.biz, which fingers Christophe Hubschmid, general director of the UCI, and Amina Lanaya, its head of legal services, as being heavily involved with the motions to change Article 51 of the UCI Constitution tabled by the Asian Cycling Confederation (ACC) and Malaysian National Cycling Federation. In particular, the UCI itself introduced the most controversial part of the proposal, namely the back-dating of the application thereof, in the event of said motions being approved. 

http://www.insidethegames.biz/sports/summer/cycling/1015561-exclusive-new-doubts-over-transparency-of-uci-election-after-correspondence-shows-staff-intervened-in-drafting-rule-change

Velonation's report on the latest confirmation that McQuaid's re-election bid stinks worse than a dead woodchuck that's been mouldering under the porch all through a sticky Deep South summer also covers the Lithuanian federation threatening legal action:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15253/McQuaid-vs-Cookson-UCI-staff-sought-controversial-addition-to-Malaysian-federation-proposal-over-presidency.aspx

EDIT

Another good piece on the nomination saga from the Inner Ring:

http://inrng.com/2013/08/uci-presidential-elections-mcquaid-nomination-dispute/
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on August 18, 2013, 02:54:07 pm
If, please God, McQaid is not reelected, he has all the credentials for a  future in merchant banking.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: TimC on August 18, 2013, 02:57:25 pm
Actually, I think he'd make an ideal choice to replace Blatter as President of FIFA.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on August 18, 2013, 03:14:03 pm
Blatter-McQuaid. Would have made a good rival to Ewing Oil.
Title: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on August 20, 2013, 08:29:54 pm
 Pat, while being interviewed about the mud being slung at him by the Russians, made the following comment:

“Verbruggen, to the best of my knowledge, he wouldn’t even know how to contact anyone in Malaysia right now.”

He'd been asked if verbruggen had been pulling strings from behind the scenes and denied this has been the case for a number of years.

Nothing had been mentioned about Malaysia until Pat fucked up brought it up.

Its all the more interesting given that the Swiss appear to be about to pull the plug on their nomination.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: spesh on August 20, 2013, 11:18:22 pm
And lo...

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15285/Swiss-Cycling-abandons-McQuaid-nomination-Irishmans-candidacy-for-third-term-as-president-under-question.aspx

EDIT:

The Inner Ring's summary of the Swiss volte-face:

http://inrng.com/2013/08/mcquaids-swiss-role-reversal/#more-16464

And there is still Chekov's gun, in the form of Makarov's dirt dossier on PMQ. What's the betting that it goes off during the World Championships?


Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: spesh on August 22, 2013, 11:36:37 am
It now appears that nominating McQuaid has ultimately cost the head of the Swiss Cycling federation his job:

https://twitter.com/inrng/statuses/370466707690627072
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Richard Chassot resigns as President of Swiss Cycling after disagreement with its board, via @TourDeRomandie (https://twitter.com/TourDeRomandie). Presumably over McQuaid case

Gerard Vroomen's latest blog post (http://gerard.cc/2013/08/21/race-to-the-bottom/) sheds a lot of light on the relationship between Chassot and McQuaid.

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  • It is clear from their meeting minutes that the Swiss Cycling board did not agree to nominate McQuaid in their meeting, but rather to wait a little and look into it further. The federation president, Richard Chassot, then announced the nomination.
  • It should be noted that Chassot is a long-standing (more than 24 hours) friend of McQuaid. He was on the witness list on McQuaid’s behalf in the lawsuit against Paul Kimmage. He is also on the board of the World Cycling Centre chaired by McQuaid.
  • Furthermore, and maybe most damning, Chassot owns the company that organizes the Tour de Romandie. Unlike the Tour de Suisse, of which the rights are owned by the Swiss federation, those for the Tour de Romandie is held by Mr. Chassot’s private company.
  • This makes Mr. Chassot financially dependent on the UCI, since it is the World Tour status awarded by the UCI that allows the Tour de Romandie to make money. In fact, Mr. Chassot stated during the Swiss board meeting that supporting McQuaid “would contribute to ensure the position of the Tour de Romandie and the Tour de Suisse”. If you ever wondered how such a small race could obtain World Tour status, follow the Swiss lawsuit.
  • The rules of Swiss Cycling clearly states that “if a member of the board has a personal interest in the matter, he or she can not participate in the decision”. But not only was Mr. Chassot present, he was the one pushing the case for McQuaid.

In other words, Mr. Chassot second-guessed or pre-empted the Swiss Cycling board, when he should have recused himself from the nomination process in the first place. Seeing as Swiss Cycling's nomination was subject to a lawsuit, which if they lost, could bankrupt them (which is undoubtedly why they withdrew their nomination earlier this week), I suspect that the board must have suggested - quite firmly - that Mr. Chassot should go. Not least because what I've quoted above from GV's blog suggests that Mr. Chassot's sense of integrity is possibly almost as atrophied as Mr. McQuaid's.

#Augeanstables
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on August 26, 2013, 10:39:26 pm
Cookson has the backing of Cycling Australia. Could be significant.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/cycling-australia-to-back-cookson-in-uci-presidential-race
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on August 26, 2013, 10:53:11 pm
Cycling Australia's decision is almost certainly based on politics, not ethics.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: David Martin on August 26, 2013, 11:13:44 pm
Given the choice of candidates it is all about ethics.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on August 26, 2013, 11:21:00 pm
Pat smells too bad these days but has had plenty of support for years. I don't think CA has finally discovered ethics.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: David Martin on August 27, 2013, 08:35:13 am
Just north of lunnon, innit?
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Hillbilly on August 27, 2013, 08:58:06 am
No doubt there is a bit of monetary consideration when making the decisions. 

Which president promises to bung the biggest revenue generating events in the direction of the national bodies.

Or which leaves the biggest brown envelope as a welcome gift in the delegate's bedroom.  Actually, this isn't FIFA.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: David Martin on August 27, 2013, 10:02:12 am
I don't think FIFA have a monopoly on brown envelopes. Can you imagine Cookson getting many votes from Asia if he speaks up viociferously about the scandals in the Tour of Borneo drug testing (or lack of)
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on September 05, 2013, 07:34:51 am
Meanwhile a Texan Judge orders Armstrong to provide a written response on what he knows, which should precipitate an account of the alleged drug test cover ups and bungs to the UCI, but probably won't.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/armstrong-ordered-to-answer-doping-questions-as-legal-case-closes-in

The Canadians have come out against Pat, having previously been in support of him, and we still have lots of dirt to look forward to which will, no doubt, surface when the Worlds are on. 

Time to stock up on popcorn...

Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Ham on September 05, 2013, 09:29:26 am
There's a wonderful kicker in the bottom of that article, just slid in:

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A judge in California is also considering a class-action lawsuit by readers of his book 'It's Not About the Bike'.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on September 06, 2013, 02:08:20 pm
http://www.bikebiz.com/news/read/bikebiz-endorses-cookson-for-uci-president/015353
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Ham on September 06, 2013, 02:18:36 pm
Is anyone publicly supporting McQuaid?
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on September 06, 2013, 03:10:21 pm
All these high profile endorsements (Daniel Baal, Brailsford, Sir Hoy etc) for BC are very encouraging, but ultimately its the federations who have all the say. It may depend on how many 'sweeteners' Underhand Pat has previously handed out/promised.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: spesh on September 06, 2013, 03:30:37 pm
This is quite interesting:

Quote from: Velonation
With the UCI presidential election now just 25 days* away and considerable uncertainty existing about whether or not Pat McQuaid has a valid nomination, several federations have called on the incumbent president to agree to a CAS hearing in order to determine the true meaning of Article 5.1 of the UCI Constitution.

USA Cycling, the Russian Cycling Federation, the Finnish Cycling Union, the Federation Algerienne de Cyclisme and Cycling Canada have all written to the UCI president pointing out the uncertainty that exists over his interpretation of Article 51.1.


* As of 02/09/13

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15383/UCI-presidential-election-International-federations-call-on-McQuaid-to-agree-to-a-CAS-ruling-on-Article-511.aspx

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15387/USA-Cycling-CEO-Johnson-says-CAS-review-of-Article-511-is-vital-for-UCI-presidential-election.aspx

And CAS have confirmed that they could be able to make a ruling on Article 51.1 before the presidential election:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15394/CAS-confirms-it-could-rule-on-UCI-Article-511-in-time-before-presidential-election.aspx

The chances of Pat McQuaid's Humpty Dumpty-style interpretation of the UCI Constitution (“When I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean—neither more, nor less.”) biting him on the arse have just increased, methinks.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Ham on September 06, 2013, 03:38:09 pm
Ah. So declared support from Morocco and Thailand, those two powerhouses of cycling.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on September 06, 2013, 06:07:32 pm
UCI says 'non'.  Surprise.

http://www.uci.ch/Modules/ENews/ENewsDetails2011.asp?id=OTYwMg
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Nuncio on September 10, 2013, 08:40:14 am
A summary (http://cdn.velonews.competitor.com/files/2013/09/UCI-Dossier-document.pdf) of the 'dossier' has been leaked to Velonews.

Velonews article (http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/09/news/leaked-file-alleges-deep-uci-corruption-cover-ups_302277).

It looks a bit flimsy - several of the paras refer to 'testimonial evidence' about McQuaid's reaction to the reading the the report and lying about not having read it - but there is reference to UCI trying to bribe Contador to cover up the 2010 positive, which is new, I think. And more 'testimonial and documentary' evidence to do with an attempted bribe from a named team in late summer of 2012.

Oh, and more to the point, the dossier was compiled by Makarov.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: groucho on September 10, 2013, 09:15:42 am
Vote for me or else.......

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/24026002


....loose the Games??
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Ham on September 10, 2013, 09:38:54 am
I loved

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"What happened in Ireland and Switzerland was against the spirit of democracy," McQuaid insisted.

Is he Huhne's evil twin?
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: sg37409 on September 10, 2013, 09:49:27 am
Just to clarify, would McQuaid remain on IOC if he doesnt get voted back as UCI Pres ?
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Ham on September 10, 2013, 10:42:57 am
Hard to see how - Ireland don't want him, neither do Switzerland, the two country bodies he actually has any association with. He'd fit right in with Cycling Thailand, they just don't do much over there.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on September 10, 2013, 11:43:11 am
The Vrijman report always had a whiff about it. Now we know why.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on September 12, 2013, 09:03:13 pm
FP has acted quickly following the leak of Makarov's dossier on his dodginess by referring it to the UCI ethics committee.  Only problem is at the secretary to the ethics committee is reportedly also the UCI legal services' manager, with whom FP presumably has regular, if not daily, contact. 

Makarov is requesting an independent inquiry to whom he can submit the full dossier.  In the quite likely event that FP declines to agree to this, it will be interesting to see who he does submit it to.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: David Martin on September 15, 2013, 06:21:21 pm
There is also the point of the constitution. To allow the nominations for FP to stand, there has to be a change in the constitution. Change requests must be submitted at least 60 days prior to the AGM to get on the agenda. The motions  weren't. I can forsee an awful lot of shenanigans if they are considered.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on September 17, 2013, 10:10:41 pm
Fortunately it's starting to look academic. 

Cookson has the pledged support of the European unions apparrently, and thus 14 votes in the bag.  He only needs roughly a quarter of the remainder to clinch it next week.

And Makarov has yet to fire his final salvo! :)
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Hot Flatus on September 18, 2013, 10:39:33 pm
He's also been rattling FP's cage by suggesting that Armstrong could face leniency if he talks about his doping in full, including any collusion with officials  ;D

I'm really starting to like Cookson
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on September 22, 2013, 09:15:15 pm
He's even got the Badger behind him now. Can't wait to see FP saying 'Bernard is misguided'. Can you run the UCI from A+E?
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Rainmaker on September 24, 2013, 08:30:27 am
Rather long but well worth a read by Jonathan Vaulters:

http://www.cyclingnews.coion-why-i-would-vote-for-brian-cooksonm/features/opin
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Rainmaker on September 24, 2013, 08:35:55 am
Unfortunately the above link doesn't seem to work, But it is on the cyclingnews.com website.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on September 24, 2013, 09:23:45 am
Yes I read it yesterday along with tHe  alleged answer phone message from Verbruggen.  If genuine he's certainly showing his true colours.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/features/opinion-why-i-would-vote-for-brian-cookson

http://youtu.be/eGkWO5woEtE


Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Nuncio on September 27, 2013, 01:05:49 pm
Oooh - vote imminent*.  After a bit of admin stuff and several hours of wrangling (including a call for a show of hands to see if a ballot should be secret) Cookson finally said:"Enough, lets just get on with it". 


*But decision likely to be subject to legal wrangling/CAS etc.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Hot Flatus on September 27, 2013, 01:10:11 pm
Hilarious.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on September 27, 2013, 01:23:50 pm
Yay! Brian wins 24-18.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Nuncio on September 27, 2013, 01:40:10 pm
*But decision likely to be subject to legal wrangling/CAS etc.

Less so now that Cookson has won.

It was looking closer than the 24/18 vote earlier.  I may have got this wrong, but there was a vote on the constitutional amendment that an incumbent doesn't need a federation (any federation) for nomination for another term (unclear whether this was legit, and if it was whether it could me implemented (like the exemption for Lance's saddle sore) retrospectively.  The result of that was 21/21.  Then there was to be a vote on the straightforward 'Can Pat stand' preceded by 5-minute speeches by several of the delegates.  I think that was coming to an an end when Cookson said - forget all this, lets just vote to see who'll be president.  Maybe some of the hungrier delegates were swayed by that decisiveness.

It sounds like it was a complete shambles.

Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: hatler on September 27, 2013, 01:44:41 pm
Yay !
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on September 27, 2013, 01:48:08 pm
I reckon Brian wanted to watch the under 23 race where Simon Yates is thought to be in with a good chance of a podium place.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: TimC on September 27, 2013, 01:52:20 pm
Now, will Pat go quietly? I have my doubts...
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Salvatore on September 27, 2013, 01:53:02 pm
The Result: Brian Cookson (Britain) 24 votes, Pat McQuaid (Thailand) 18 votes

Perhaps he'll go home to Thailand
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on September 27, 2013, 01:55:33 pm
The Result: Brian Cookson (Britain) 24 votes, Pat McQuaid (Thailand) 18 votes

Perhaps he'll go home to Thailand

As long as he takes the odious Verdruggen with him.

ETA: from @lancearmstrong "Hallelujah"

 ;D
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on September 27, 2013, 02:10:18 pm
It looks like a good margin.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on September 27, 2013, 05:05:45 pm
A good result, although far closer than it should have been.

Now to get the IOC to kick him off in favour of Cookson..
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: padbeat on September 27, 2013, 06:41:15 pm
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McQuaid was a race organisers [sic] before becoming a senior UCI politician. He will now have to resign his membership of the IOC but he insisted he will stay in the sport, with some kind of new role.

"I'll stay in cycling, I've been in it all my life. I'll find something to do," he said before walking out of the room, ending his role as the head of cycling.
Cyclingnews.com (http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mcquaid-sportingly-accepts-defeat-in-uci-election)

Feel free not to, Pat. Don't let the door hit your arse on the way out, fella. And whan you've finished f&£<ing off, duo us all a favour and f&£< off some more.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Ham on September 27, 2013, 07:17:00 pm
A good result, although far closer than it should have been.

Now to get the IOC to kick him off in favour of Cookson..

In padbead's linked story

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He will now have to resign his membership of the IOC
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on September 27, 2013, 08:00:24 pm
I'm not sure it's as automatic as that journo seems to think but we'll see.  Let's hope so.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Rhys W on September 27, 2013, 09:30:32 pm
Can I be the first to say Auf Wiedershein, Pat!

 ;D
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: hazeii on September 27, 2013, 09:49:14 pm
"McQuaid [] pledged not to launch a legal challenge should he be defeated."

Best to to get that in first, perhaps, so somewhere down the road it'll be "I said I wouldn't sue them, how unfair it is for them to sue me after all I've done for cycling!" etc. etc.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Karla on September 27, 2013, 10:08:31 pm
Excellent :)
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: robgul on September 30, 2013, 07:22:31 pm
Can we expect McQuaid to appear on Oprah and confess all a la Lance ????

Rob
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Veloman on September 30, 2013, 08:16:46 pm
Can we expect McQuaid to appear on Oprah and confess all a la Lance ????

Rob

More like The One Show!
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Nuncio on October 02, 2013, 08:03:18 am
I'm not sure it's as automatic as that journo seems to think but we'll see.  Let's hope so.

Looks like it is. (http://www.insidethegames.biz/sports/summer/cycling/1016280-mcquaid-officially-removed-from-list-of-international-olympic-committee-members)

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"Pat McQuaid's membership ended last Friday when he ceased to be UCI President," a spokeswoman for the IOC told insidethegames.

His name has now been removed from the list of members on the IOC's official website.

A process will now be launched to elect a replacement to fill the position, one of the 15 places allocated to the International Federations under the rules of the Olympic Charter.

It is unlikely to be Cookson, however.

"His successor will not automatically become an IOC member," the spokeswoman told insidethegames.

Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Salvatore on October 02, 2013, 01:49:48 pm
I've always found it bizarre that someone who was banned for life from the Olympics in 1976 managed to get a seat on the IOC.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: spesh on October 02, 2013, 01:58:03 pm
I've always found it bizarre that someone who was banned for life from the Olympics in 1976 managed to get a seat on the IOC.

I dunno, what he did showed he was well-qualified for life in the upper echelons of global sporting organisations.  :demon: ;) :demon:

Though what that says about yer average global sports organisation is left as an exercise for the reader.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: spesh on October 04, 2013, 02:59:17 pm
An amusing, if mildly bizarre, coda to the UCI Presidential vote:

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The Overlord Surfaces

Brian Cookson defeated incumbent Pat McQuaid in last Friday’s closely watched election for UCI President. Amid the electoral drama, CyclingNews’ Laura Weislo tweeted that Aaron Brown was present (https://twitter.com/Laura_Weislo/status/383484443698397184) (allegedly advising McQuaid).

Brown, you may recall, is the Twitter personality known as @UCI_Overlord who is accused of misappropriating roughly $100,000 (http://www.bicycling.com/news/featured-stories/missing-kimmage-defense-fund) from, variously, the Paul Kimmage defense fund and his former business partner, Lesli Cohen.

The Brown story in general has elements of the baroque about it, but Friday’s twist was something stranger than fiction: a man who built his fame on satirizing the UCI president may have advised the same president—whose legal action against Kimmage precipitated the very defense fund that Brown allegedly misappropriated, forcing him to go to ground under fierce criticism of his actions.

I can’t figure out who would be dumber in this situation: Brown, for agreeing to advise McQuaid even as he must have known his presence would be noted by the media attending (some of whom know him and have been criticized by him in the past) and thus revive his own story; or McQuaid, who is so tone deaf that he would think Brown actually had any qualifications or credibility as an advisor.

In the end, their association seems quite fitting and should serve nicely as an epitaph to both of their careers in the sport.

 ;D

http://blogs.bicycling.com/blogs/boulderreport/2013/09/30/worlds-wrap/

Apropos of Mr. Kimmage, an appeal against the rejection of the suit he filed against Messrs McQuaid and Verbruggen in November of last year was thrown out by the Swiss courts late in August:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15363/Kimmage-confirms-that-legal-appeal-over-McQuaid-and-Verbruggen-lawsuit-has-been-dismissed.aspx
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Jakob on October 11, 2013, 07:48:36 pm
Cookson is off to a good start:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/oct/11/brian-cookson-wada-investigation-uci

- Independent investigation into UCI's handling of doping
- Drops the lawsuit against Kimmage
- removed the age limit (28) for women.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on October 11, 2013, 07:54:55 pm
And is courting the IOC to bag FP's place, which is important.  Encouraging stuff.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Hot Flatus on October 11, 2013, 08:05:58 pm
Very encouraging.

Now all he has to do is get LA to talk.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: David Martin on October 11, 2013, 08:14:16 pm
LA has no problem with talking, it's telling that is the problem..
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Biff on October 11, 2013, 08:22:49 pm
I fear that LA would treat any more discussion of his doping as an ego trip. Far better to talk to the likes of Di Luca, Sinkewitz etc. Its the mid rank riders and especially team managers with a shady past who could provide the most insight rather than LA who, with his resources and clout, was in a different and much smaller league. All IMHO obv.

ETA; Cookson is off to a good start. I hope he receives support from the likes of Walsh and Kimmage.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Hot Flatus on October 11, 2013, 08:29:00 pm
It is all IYHO, but so is everybody's view on this including mine  :D

My view is that LA will spill, eventually, when the legal and financial constraints become redundant. I take your point about the smallfry and the big league though.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Jakob on October 11, 2013, 08:45:22 pm
And is courting the IOC to bag FP's place, which is important.  Encouraging stuff.

I actually don't want him to get anywhere near the IOC. I consider the IOC unrecoverable and think it'll corrupt anyone involved with it.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Tewdric on November 04, 2013, 06:45:29 pm
Is Hein preparing the ground for an impending shitstorm I wonder?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/former-uci-president-verbruggen-my-conscience-is-clean
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: Hot Flatus on November 04, 2013, 06:58:05 pm
Yep.

Cookson is busy getting all his ducks in a row.

Meanwhile Rasmussen has ratted out Hesjedal for doping in 03. Vaughters has 'let slip' that Hesjedal admitted to usada hat he'd doped in 03 and 04, but of course nobody is going to believevthat he stopped afterwards, which puts his 2012 Giro win in a new light.....especially since he'd never podiumed in a GT before with a single 6th place being his only GT result of note.

Incidentally, in this years Giro (after having confessed to prior doping in 03/4) he came 70th.

Its a fucking joke of a sport
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on November 04, 2013, 07:05:26 pm
Yes, doping has made a mockery of pro racing for decades now. There is no sensible approach other than to stand back and laugh at every impossible result and the cheering crowds.

They always stop doping more than 8 years before the current date. Of course they do.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: spesh on November 04, 2013, 09:50:48 pm
Hein Verbruggen - "My conscience is clean."

Of course it is Heinie, you had it surgically extracted and put in a jar for safekeeping when you became UCI president.
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: sg37409 on November 18, 2013, 10:40:32 am
Is Hein preparing the ground for an impending shitstorm I wonder?

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/former-uci-president-verbruggen-my-conscience-is-clean

It might just have started.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/lance-armstrong-claims-verbruggen-aided-in-doping-cover-up
Title: Re: Brian Cookson for UCI president
Post by: spesh on November 18, 2013, 06:42:58 pm
Cookson is off to a good start:
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2013/oct/11/brian-cookson-wada-investigation-uci

- Independent investigation into UCI's handling of doping
- Drops the lawsuit against Kimmage
- removed the age limit (28) for women.

And following on from the aforementioned measures, another step towards improving the representation of women in cycling:

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15840/UCI-confirms-at-least-one-woman-will-sit-on-each-of-governing-bodys-eighteen-commissions.aspx