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General Category => On The Road => Topic started by: simonp on September 27, 2013, 08:57:10 pm

Title: DOTD
Post by: simonp on September 27, 2013, 08:57:10 pm
Cyclists only need apply.

Today I nominate the Fixie rider on Euston Rd who came up from behind, between taxi behind me and curb, undertaking me, then cutting across in front of me from the left, as traffic moved off, nearly taking out my front wheel. "Sorry mate" doesn't really cut it.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Crumbling Nick on September 28, 2013, 01:51:56 am
OK, I'll take the bait.

What does DOTD mean, and does it matter for someone who is wise/fortunate enough to cycle in London infrequently :demon:?

I'll add that I've cycled along Euston Rd. several times, usually in rush hour, with a few kg. of baggage, and have mixed views about the ethics of all the categories of road user apart from bus drivers (pretty good) and taxi drivers (that's a national disease). Lots of cyclists misbehave. Many don't.

At a slightly more reflective level...

London isn't the first city to discover the benefits of cycling. Is the bad behaviour of a few cyclists a function of local attitudes, or is it all a lot more complex?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on September 28, 2013, 09:05:15 am
My guess is Richard Of The Day.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Zipperhead on September 28, 2013, 12:24:24 pm
Mine was the stupid woman last night who, as I was braking to a stop behind another two cyclists for a give way came alongside me and pulled in front. Then when we set off again she was slower so I passed her easily going up the next slope.

A couple of sets of lights further on, as I was stopping behind another cyclist she came alongside and cut in front again. I politely pointed out that that was the second time she had pulled of that stupid manouvre, but I couldn't understand what she was saying behind her smog mask.

A bit further along when the traffic was so snarled up that even bicycles couldn't move she took to the pavement.

I don't mind if cyclists want to kill and injure themselves, but I do get annoyed when they try and involve me in their stupidity.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 06, 2013, 09:01:47 am
The bloke on the cycle path yesterday who was so engrossed in adjusting his computer/GPS/other bar-mounted device that he didn't even realise he'd veered across the whole width of the path and was about to collide with me going the other way. In fact, I'm pretty sure that if I hadn't been there to wake him up, he'd have gone into the bushes at the edge of the path.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SlowCoach on October 06, 2013, 10:15:09 pm
The bloke on the cycle path yesterday who was so engrossed in adjusting his computer/GPS/other bar-mounted device that he didn't even realise he'd veered across the whole width of the path and was about to collide with me going the other way.

This is a regular problem I have on one of my commute routes. The cycle path runs along the river bank and is very popular with rowing coaches cycling along concentrating on the boat they are coaching rather than on where they are going. I find that the crew on the river is generally more attentive than the coach. I've now had a couple of occasions when my shout of "MOVE LEFT !!!" at an approaching coach has been totally ignored by the cycling coach, but not by the crew on the water who have responded and ploughed into the bank leaving a totally perplexed coach and crew.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Crumbling Nick on October 07, 2013, 12:24:39 am
The bloke on the cycle path yesterday who was so engrossed in adjusting his computer/GPS/other bar-mounted device that he didn't even realise he'd veered across the whole width of the path and was about to collide with me going the other way.

This is a regular problem I have on one of my commute routes. The cycle path runs along the river bank and is very popular with rowing coaches cycling along concentrating on the boat they are coaching rather than on where they are going. I find that the crew on the river is generally more attentive than the coach. I've now had a couple of occasions when my shout of "MOVE LEFT !!!" at an approaching coach has been totally ignored by the cycling coach, but not by the crew on the water who have responded and ploughed into the bank leaving a totally perplexed coach and crew.
That's a new one to me. When I was involved in rowing & coaching, the towpaths were not used by commuters. It may be a regional issue, but my experience is over 4 decades out of date.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Wascally Weasel on October 07, 2013, 01:02:23 pm
The bloke on the cycle path yesterday who was so engrossed in adjusting his computer/GPS/other bar-mounted device that he didn't even realise he'd veered across the whole width of the path and was about to collide with me going the other way.

This is a regular problem I have on one of my commute routes. The cycle path runs along the river bank and is very popular with rowing coaches cycling along concentrating on the boat they are coaching rather than on where they are going. I find that the crew on the river is generally more attentive than the coach. I've now had a couple of occasions when my shout of "MOVE LEFT !!!" at an approaching coach has been totally ignored by the cycling coach, but not by the crew on the water who have responded and ploughed into the bank leaving a totally perplexed coach and crew.

Shout "TAKE A LOOK SCULLER!" at her/him - their Pavlovian response may cause them to fall off/in the river.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SlowCoach on October 07, 2013, 01:39:24 pm
The bloke on the cycle path yesterday who was so engrossed in adjusting his computer/GPS/other bar-mounted device that he didn't even realise he'd veered across the whole width of the path and was about to collide with me going the other way.

This is a regular problem I have on one of my commute routes. The cycle path runs along the river bank and is very popular with rowing coaches cycling along concentrating on the boat they are coaching rather than on where they are going. I find that the crew on the river is generally more attentive than the coach. I've now had a couple of occasions when my shout of "MOVE LEFT !!!" at an approaching coach has been totally ignored by the cycling coach, but not by the crew on the water who have responded and ploughed into the bank leaving a totally perplexed coach and crew.
That's a new one to me. When I was involved in rowing & coaching, the towpaths were not used by commuters. It may be a regional issue, but my experience is over 4 decades out of date.
It's a very specific issue caused by introduction of the National Cycling Network. The coaches always used to use the South bank of the river. The NCN route was put in using the North bank and the rather grotty foorpath upgraded into a 2.5 metre offroad cycle track, with a tarmac surface. This is very much closer to the river than the south side track and so the coaches seem to prefer it and moved across en masse. It can be entertaining riding down there sometimes because the path also tends to be used as storage space for eights, blades, boat racks etc. where it passes the boat houses. I've also found squads of rowers all lined across the track doing pressups. One of these days I might just try perfecting my bunny hop, rather than waiting for the path to be cleared.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: rower40 on October 07, 2013, 08:51:56 pm
If there is a crew carrying their boat across a path, an authoritarian shout of "Shoulder-high...LIFT" may cause an automatic response in the rowers to lift their boat high enough for you to ride underneath.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Zipperhead on October 08, 2013, 12:40:02 am
I despair of people's fucking stupidity.

Tonight on the way home, it wasn't completely dark but it was well past the time when sensible people switched on their lights whatever their vehicle.

As I came up to some lights I knew they were about to change, so I stayed slightly to the right of the stationary cyclists and didn't quite stop. When the lights changed off we went.

On my left was a man riding a carbon Pinarello, dressed in black cycling gear, wearing a helmet but no lights. I accelerated past him. In front of him was a woman and just ahead was a coach parked. So I moved across to the right to miss it and slowed slightly to allow the woman to move out. Just as I reached the coach someone started shouting at me, and when I looked to my left Mr. Pinarello's front wheel was about to foul my pedal, and his bars were about to clip my seatpost.

Apparently, I had pulled left into him!

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: HTFB on October 08, 2013, 08:13:44 am
The bloke on the cycle path yesterday who was so engrossed in adjusting his computer/GPS/other bar-mounted device that he didn't even realise he'd veered across the whole width of the path and was about to collide with me going the other way.

This is a regular problem I have on one of my commute routes. The cycle path runs along the river bank and is very popular with rowing coaches cycling along concentrating on the boat they are coaching rather than on where they are going. I find that the crew on the river is generally more attentive than the coach. I've now had a couple of occasions when my shout of "MOVE LEFT !!!" at an approaching coach has been totally ignored by the cycling coach, but not by the crew on the water who have responded and ploughed into the bank leaving a totally perplexed coach and crew.
That's probably a crew who could plough into the bank under their own steam without prompting, since the boat is supposed to be keeping to the right, and moving left would put it in midstream.

It seems to be natural, on busy stretches like early termtime mornings in Oxford, for the coaches also to keep right: on the left, the boats heading along the towpath bank get continuous contact with their coach, but this doesn't compensate the coaches heading the other way for the nuisance of losing sight of their distant crew when cyclists coming the other way intervene. And naturally you do technical exercises along the near bank and racing pieces on the far side, so the far-side coaches are riding with greater momentum and win the contest.

This effect does put the coaches in conflict with civilians, who may quite reasonably want to use the path in early termtime mornings for commuting. If you stand your ground and the surprised coach rides straight into the river, you'll be rewarded with the heartily-expressed approval of at least eight other people. And a cox.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Vince on October 08, 2013, 10:57:15 am
I think my late father managed to ride into a river whist coaching. My mother was not impressed - it was her bike!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: caerau on October 08, 2013, 11:04:49 am
When  I was student I once coached a crew of novice rowers.  One day I saw an eight plough so quickly into a grassy bank on the other side of the river that it left stroke and cox in the river and bow stuck on the riverbank with the middle rowers dangling in mid air.
Not for long though as the boat merrily snapped in half at the centre ruining all their day.


I think I wet myself several times over watching that.  ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Feanor on October 14, 2013, 10:59:48 am
Hertfordshire Police escort M1 cyclist off motorway

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-24518094
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on October 14, 2013, 11:38:43 am
I'd wear a hood if I cycled on a motorway, deffo.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fboab on October 18, 2013, 01:03:59 pm
One way street. 6:30 am. Black trousers, black jacket, no lights front or rear. The wrong way, wrong side of the road.

Moron.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Andrew Br on October 18, 2013, 08:45:44 pm
Last night: rider on nice looking road bike yelps quite spectacularly as we (both bike mounted) start to pull out into her path. Lights would have helped you, you pratt.
Tonight while I was in the car: a flashing red light on the front. Again another attractive road bike so you'd think that he could afford £5(ish) for a small white light.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: handcyclist on October 19, 2013, 11:27:27 am
Did the Fiesta have a cycle in it? If not, may I refer you to the Today's Motorised Moron thread (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=63751.msg1580604#new)?
Need to get back OT there, it's degenerated to puns involving cows.  ;D

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 10, 2014, 02:54:09 pm
Approaching this junction
https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=zetland+rd+bristol&ll=51.469943,-2.589576&spn=0.006496,0.014205&hnear=Zetland+Rd,+Bristol,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&t=m&z=16&layer=c&cbll=51.469656,-2.593546&panoid=p1pQvb3dH3z9XOtlYtlEWA&cbp=12,317,,0,0
which is not a straightforward T because it has an extra side road between left and straight on, just at the point where the bus lane becomes a left-turn lane and the cycle lane starts, a 3-axled lorry was waiting. I was going straight on and just as I drew level with it, the lights turned green, so I hung back. Most probably it was going straight too, but traffic does take the second left from either lane without indicating and there are always parked vehicles by Sainsbury's just after the junction. And at this point, a bloke on a mountain bike overtakes on my left. I thought he was going to go up the inside of the lorry, but no, his idea is possibly even more dickish than that - he grabs hold of a bar on the lorry's left rear door and gets a free ride for the next four hundred yards or so.  ::-) A couple of times I thought he was going to be wiped out as the lorry moved out to pass parked vehicles, including a breakdown truck,  :o but he managed to avoid them. Close thing though. When the lorry stopped in the next jam, he rode along the pavement a bit, dicked around in a side road, then pissed off up the inside of the queue. The irony of all this is that the whole time he was holding onto the lorry, I was easily keeping up with him on my extremely upright urban hybrid with laden panniers.  ::-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: caerau on January 10, 2014, 04:13:13 pm
You didn't have a helmetcam on did you?  I'd like to see all that :-D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: red marley on January 10, 2014, 04:19:44 pm
If only Lucas Brunelle was filming it. Then it would have been cool.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 10, 2014, 05:57:03 pm
The name Lucas Brunelle makes me think of Louis Bunuel. If he'd filmed it, it might have been cool.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fboab on January 14, 2014, 08:33:10 pm
Me.
Bloody cyclists, with barely visible lights in the middle of nowhere.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SlowCoach on January 15, 2014, 02:52:12 pm
Last night - a pavement riding BMXer with no lights. I was waiting to enter a roundabout on the commute home (sitting in primary in the left hand lane). He came off the pavement in front of me, cut behind the vehicle that was pulling out on my right and then proceeded to ride the wrong way round the roundabout!!! After 10 yards or so he then cut left and rode straight over the grassy hump in the middle. I lost sight of him at that point. It was a highly original piece of navigation.

Five minutes later, who should I overtake but a lightless pavement riding BMXer.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mike on January 15, 2014, 04:41:36 pm
The bloke riding down the A1 near Biggleswade at dusk tonight.  No lights, no reflectives, dark coloured kit on a 70mph dual carriageway without much of a hard shoulder, with a smaller road directly parallel and about 50 yards to the left. 
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on February 19, 2014, 09:37:31 am
The idiot wobbling along in the gutter on Ampthill Road at 6.30 this morning. No lights. On the wrong side of the road! Oncoming cars were flashing their lights and hooting but he seemed oblivious to it all.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: JonJo on February 19, 2014, 07:09:25 pm
OK, I'll take the bait.

What does DOTD mean, and does it matter for someone who is wise/fortunate enough to cycle in London infrequently :demon:?

Dawn of the Dead maybe?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on February 19, 2014, 08:19:03 pm
Me.
Riding home on the cycle path next to work, looking at the small tree which had blown over and at the slowish chap on the MTB who was using the road. Looking everywhere, in fact, except where I was going. It was only the squeal of brakes which alerted me to the cyclist coming the other way.  :face palm: Fortunately I had time (just) to take avoiding action and to apologise.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: cycleman on February 19, 2014, 10:09:28 pm
I nearly took out a twit who was riding towards me on a  unlighted cycleway  with a red flashing light on his handlebars . Luckily for him I was testing a new 600 lumen front light and was able to miss that said twit .
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 19, 2014, 10:11:05 pm
Similarly, I saw someone who had both white and red lights on his handlebars today. WTF ???
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 20, 2014, 10:26:31 am
I was on the bus today.

DOTM

Bus at lights, indicators on, turning left. Cyclist coming along pavement and duckingleft. Bus driver clocks them, and swings wide on the turn; good thing, cyclist cuts right in front of the bus. Then straight through red ped crossing (with people on it), into the bus lane on the right - erm, now he's riding the wrong way down a bus lane, in the middle of the lane, towards a blind corner. Jumps onto the pavement and weaves through the pedestrians.

What a complete and utter bellend.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: sg37409 on February 20, 2014, 08:53:50 pm
The idiot with no front light cycling across Haymarket junction at 7:15 pm last night, to turn up morrison street. Wrong side of the road and directly in my line…...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Veloman on February 20, 2014, 09:30:40 pm
Interesting to read all these posts about cyclists.

Makes you wonder why cyclists get a bad name by some!

Sadly, the behaviour of the few will tarnish the many and the behaviour reported in this thread is doing our PR no good whatsoever.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: bumper on February 20, 2014, 11:05:57 pm
DOTD goes to the bell end from this morning with his light on full power and super silly mega fast strobe setting coming up the hill from Trentham traffic lights.

Thanks to you I had two green dots burned into my vision for the rest of my trip down the road. I also didn't see he truck behind you until you'd fucked off.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: sg37409 on February 21, 2014, 08:28:52 am
Interesting to read all these posts about cyclists.

Makes you wonder why cyclists get a bad name by some!

Sadly, the behaviour of the few will tarnish the many and the behaviour reported in this thread is doing our PR no good whatsoever.

Proportionally, I see more crap cycling than driving.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 21, 2014, 09:35:58 am
Sadly, the behaviour of the few will tarnish the many and the behaviour reported in this thread is doing our PR no good whatsoever.

Proportionally, I see more truly incredibly crap cycling than driving.
FTFY

I think that reading cyclists winge about bad cyclists doesn't do us any harm. I do not like being lumping in with the utter fuckwits mentioned in this thread. They are FuckwitsOnnaBike and would probably be FuckwitsInnaCar if they were driving.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on February 21, 2014, 07:11:30 pm
DOTD goes to the bell end from this morning with his light on full power and super silly mega fast strobe setting coming up the hill from Trentham traffic lights.

Thanks to you I had two green dots burned into my vision for the rest of my trip down the road. I also didn't see he truck behind you until you'd fucked off.
Similar for me yesterday. Roadie coming through our village with what must have been an 'off road' type light. Made the mistake of looking at it. Dots before the eyes.
And it wasn't even dark. I had no front lights on and had only put the back ones on because they're there and I might as well use the batteries up.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mattc on February 21, 2014, 07:57:58 pm
Sadly, the behaviour of the few will tarnish the many and the behaviour reported in this thread is doing our PR no good whatsoever.

Proportionally, I see more truly incredibly crap cycling than driving.
FTFY

I think that reading cyclists winge about bad cyclists doesn't do us any harm. I do not like being lumping in with the utter fuckwits mentioned in this thread. They are FuckwitsOnnaBike and would probably be FuckwitsInnaCar if they were driving.
... and would probably kill a few people every year between them.

Unlike the cyclists, who just piss people off a little. Like the rain. Or Radio1.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: 'breff on February 21, 2014, 11:16:33 pm
I nearly took out a twit who was riding towards me on a  unlighted cycleway  with a red flashing light on his handlebars . Luckily for him I was testing a new 600 lumen front light and was able to miss that said twit .
Remarkably, err, Restrained wording Chris!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: cycleman on February 22, 2014, 08:54:29 am
Man of peace me :)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: HTFB on February 24, 2014, 03:53:18 pm
The bloke on a racer in full lycra who'd decided to make a contraflow cycle lane out of the narrow pavement in Montpelier Vale. How did he even get there?

I can see why they don't let him ride on the road yet, mind you.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mustgettaller on February 26, 2014, 11:45:23 am
The M25 cyclist. 'nuff said.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: menthel on March 11, 2014, 08:35:33 am
Fixie rider going across Cedars Rd/Lavendar Hill junction filming himself with front and rear gopros as he jumped the lights and weaved thru the traffic still travelling across the junction. Twatcockwomble.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: marcusjb on March 11, 2014, 08:45:40 am
The local club rider who was probably towards the end of a long ride, so was probably a bit tired, but still got upset by a bloke in jeans sat on a Japanese City bike overtaking him whilst he free wheeled along.

Cue increase in speed, heroic overtake, building up a gap and then, free wheel. 

Bloke in jeans on Japanese City bike remains at a constant speed (thing is a single speed) and passes once again.

Cue increase in speed, heroic overtake, building up a gap and then, free wheel.

Bloody annoying.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on March 14, 2014, 08:22:23 am
The idiot wobbling along in the gutter on Ampthill Road at 6.30 this morning. No lights. On the wrong side of the road! Oncoming cars were flashing their lights and hooting but he seemed oblivious to it all.
Saw him again this morning. Same as before but in thick fog (though I don't believe the fog was half as thick as him)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jogler on March 15, 2014, 07:48:42 pm
Myself
My blind lady stoker & I were discussing night riding today as we rode.When I said that I enjoy such rides she pointed out that ALL her riding is night riding.
Sometimes I only open my mouth to change feet. ::-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on March 15, 2014, 07:50:38 pm
Myself
My blind lady stoker & I were discussing night riding today as we rode.When I said that I enjoy such rides she pointed out that ALL her riding is night riding.
Sometimes I only open my mouth to change feet. ::-)

I dunno, I'd have thought a blind stoker would particularly appreciate the lack of cars...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Phil W on March 15, 2014, 07:55:36 pm

Myself
My blind lady stoker & I were discussing night riding today as we rode.When I said that I enjoy such rides she pointed out that ALL her riding is night riding.
Sometimes I only open my mouth to change feet. ::-)

It's not though as night riding has a whole difference in the sounds and general ambience as you ride. My blind stoker notices this and often picks up some night sounds long before I do.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Canardly on March 15, 2014, 09:24:58 pm
Your stoker was pulling your leg. Night riding is also about smells, tastes, wind in your face etc. And I am sure the stoker appreciates you driving the tandy.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ruth on March 15, 2014, 09:52:50 pm
She sounds like me when I'm feeling sorry for myself and want to drag other people down into my misery.  And she's probly allowed to feel sorry for herself.

It's not you jogler, it's her.  Night riding is nothing like day riding, which she'll realise when you take her on a FNRttC.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jogler on March 15, 2014, 10:25:02 pm
She is amongst the most positive thinking & pro-active people I've ever met;no indication of misery or negativity in her character & she doesn't feel sorry for herself.

'sfunny you should mention FNRttC.I told her of the York to Hull ride about which she had several questions, the answers to which did nothing to generate a negative response of any sort.Quite the opposite.She asked if I would want to ride it again.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ruth on March 15, 2014, 10:26:48 pm
She is amongst the most positive thinking & pro-active people I've ever met;no indication of misery or negativity in her character & she doesn't feel sorry for herself.

'sfunny you should mention FNRttC.I told her of the York to Hull ride about which she had several questions, the answers to which did nothing to generate a negative response of any sort.Quite the opposite.She asked if I would want to ride it again.

And ... ?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jogler on March 15, 2014, 11:12:16 pm
 and at the present time equivocation is my strongest characteristic.
I rarely do the same ride more than once* but I find myself contemplating the logistics of getting a tandem to York & back from Hull without using my car.
I have already discounted riding it there & back
However I think Carol would not wish to undertake a 100km-ish ride any time soon & I have yet to convince myself that I too could do so although by this time next week I expect to have a clearer indication on this issue.


*IIRC I have do so only twice.Both times a lady otp was involved.The same lady.She knows who she is.

and yourself Ruthie?

and your new avatar is a cracker :thumbsup:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on March 16, 2014, 12:51:55 am
Of course, a FNRttC is rarely the same ride more than once...   :demon:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on March 17, 2014, 08:27:25 am
Yesterday.

Sunny Sunday afternoon. Cycle path beside A507. Lycra lout bellowing obscenities at three wobbly little people being herded by their (nearly as wobbly) parents. Didn't like it, did you, when I caught you up and bellowed obscenities at you, finishing with "and if you want to do this speed you're two feet away from a fucking empty road you cunt" >:(
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ruth on March 17, 2014, 09:05:22 pm


and yourself Ruthie?



Thinking about it.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on March 19, 2014, 03:42:11 pm
Yesterday.

Sunny Sunday afternoon. Cycle path beside A507. Lycra lout bellowing obscenities at three wobbly little people being herded by their (nearly as wobbly) parents. Didn't like it, did you, when I caught you up and bellowed obscenities at you, finishing with "and if you want to do this speed you're two feet away from a fucking empty road you cunt" >:(

 :thumbsup: good one, guy.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Dibdib on March 19, 2014, 07:43:22 pm
Not for the first time (same muppet) - dipshit on a BSO, rolling down the wrong side of the road, straight at me, with a very dim red blinking light - ON HIS HANDLEBARS.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: contango on March 20, 2014, 12:35:23 pm
A few weeks ago I nearly ran into a cyclist when in the car.

He was riding a black bike wearing black clothes with no lights on the wrong side of the road. I instinctively slowed when I saw a flash of yellow that I didn't expect, which turned out to be a pedal reflector.

I'm amazed at the number of people riding around in dark clothes with no lights, or the people who do really stupid stuff like putting red lights on the front of the bike or white lights on the rear. I spotted one the other day riding around a busy roundabout in the twilight wearing dark clothes and no lights. He was visible because of the street lights, certainly not because of any efforts he had made to be seen.

It seems a lot of people figure lights are purely for their benefit and if they can see where they are going they don't need lights.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on March 20, 2014, 09:30:14 pm
It seems a lot of people figure lights are purely for their benefit and if they can see where they are going they don't need lights.

Presumably not the same group with the seizure-inducing front flashers...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on March 20, 2014, 09:34:25 pm
It seems a lot of people figure lights are purely for their benefit and if they can see where they are going they don't need lights.

Presumably not the same group with the seizure-inducing front flashers...
...although the same reasoning.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: essexian on March 27, 2014, 09:47:19 am
Sundown Drive in Stafford is quite a nice short hill where, if you try, you can get up quite a nice bit of speed before turning off into the speedhump hell that is the Highfields estate.

Thus:

http://goo.gl/maps/o1QVz


The one way you won’t get up any speed as a cyclist if you cut in front of a bus, slam your brakes on and start to shout at the driver. Not sure what he had done to upset you, but you did make yourself look a right twat throwing your bike down (a Tesco’s special by the looks) and offering the bus driver out for a fight.

Sometimes….and yes, I find this very hard to do…. It’s better to bite your tongue and just let it go afterall, there will be only one winner bike V bus.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on March 30, 2014, 09:08:19 pm
Saturday evening, around 1845, and nearly full dark. Heading South down Balcombe Road on the short stretch of footpath I now use to avoid a repeat of diving sideways off the bike as some moton overtakes a car coming my way as I would have waited to turn right.

People carrier, southbound, pulls the F1 florr-everything overtake on another car, and very nearly takes out the northbound cyclist. Road bike, proper kit, no sodding lights at all.

But he WAS wearing a helmet...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: contango on April 02, 2014, 10:44:24 am
It seems a lot of people figure lights are purely for their benefit and if they can see where they are going they don't need lights.

Presumably not the same group with the seizure-inducing front flashers...

Yep, the "I'm looking out for me and sod everybody else" attitude isn't confined to motorists.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: caerau on April 02, 2014, 11:21:25 am
There's a lot of serious advice out there to have lights on flashing in commuting traffic as it gets noticed.  I read an article from a former military jet pilot once on exactly why it's a good idea (all to do with pilots being trained to look, then look again to avoid objects being unnoticed by the mechanics of how your brain interprets vision).  Having a flashing light can induce the same affect in a driver who doesn't necessarily look as carefully as a jet pilot, say when pulling out from a t-junction straight into a cyclist they haven't seen even with a steady front light.  I noted this and started using a front flasher from then on.


I was doing it until I rather discovered that others really *hate* it just the other day. I don't so it hadn't occurred to me that others do until I had a bit of an altercation with someone on an audax.


I shall adjust my lighting tactics accordingly but not everyone out there doing this is doing it from a selfish 'sod everyone else' point of view.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: simonp on April 02, 2014, 11:45:13 am
A flashing light alone, depending on frequency and duty cycle, can be very hard to spot in a mirror.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: caerau on April 02, 2014, 01:21:52 pm
Maybe so, I wasn't commenting on the effectiveness, more the implied assumption above that anyone using a flashing light is a selfish tosser.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on April 02, 2014, 02:13:36 pm
Yesterday, about 5:15 so could have been a commuter but seemed to be racing another cyclist, which could have been the reason for the dickish decsions. Jumping a red light is common and you got through before the other traffic started moving, so we'll ignore that. But overtaking a car on the right when it's stopped in the middle of the road, with its right-hand indicator flashing and opposite an obvious turning (a petrol station) is really stupid.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Vince on April 02, 2014, 02:38:07 pm
Is DOTD Dick Of The Day?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Canardly on April 06, 2014, 07:50:27 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Nelson Longflap on April 06, 2014, 09:56:35 pm
Riding along in broad daylight I saw the inverse of the headless cyclist (or is that headless horseman?) ... Somebody riding on the pavement alongside a hedge. I saw the bike and the head, but as he was wearing a camo jacket and trousers that disappeared against the shrubbery I had to look twice for the torso.

I didn't know camouflage stuff you buy in the Army stores was that good! I'm not a high-viz evangelist but making yourself semi-visible seems to be asking for trouble.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jsabine on April 07, 2014, 08:45:42 am
A few years ago we walked into the bar at Shannon airport. An American troop transport was obviously refuelling or stopping over - all we could see was a huge number of heads, above a great sandy indistinguishable mass. Desert pattern DPM merged into the next battledress and even into the background very effectively.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: billplumtree on April 07, 2014, 12:38:22 pm
[Tommy Cooper]
I went to buy some camouflage trousers the other day, but I couldn't find any.
[/Tommy Cooper]
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on April 07, 2014, 05:14:51 pm
There's a lot of serious advice out there to have lights on flashing in commuting traffic as it gets noticed.  I read an article from a former military jet pilot once on exactly why it's a good idea (all to do with pilots being trained to look, then look again to avoid objects being unnoticed by the mechanics of how your brain interprets vision).  Having a flashing light can induce the same affect in a driver who doesn't necessarily look as carefully as a jet pilot, say when pulling out from a t-junction straight into a cyclist they haven't seen even with a steady front light.  I noted this and started using a front flasher from then on.


I was doing it until I rather discovered that others really *hate* it just the other day. I don't so it hadn't occurred to me that others do until I had a bit of an altercation with someone on an audax.


I shall adjust my lighting tactics accordingly but not everyone out there doing this is doing it from a selfish 'sod everyone else' point of view.
As part of the training I deliver I espouse "active looking", which is a process of scanning a person and their possessions to pick up as much info as possible. Much the same thing.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: contango on April 07, 2014, 05:25:37 pm
There's a lot of serious advice out there to have lights on flashing in commuting traffic as it gets noticed.  I read an article from a former military jet pilot once on exactly why it's a good idea (all to do with pilots being trained to look, then look again to avoid objects being unnoticed by the mechanics of how your brain interprets vision).  Having a flashing light can induce the same affect in a driver who doesn't necessarily look as carefully as a jet pilot, say when pulling out from a t-junction straight into a cyclist they haven't seen even with a steady front light.  I noted this and started using a front flasher from then on.


I was doing it until I rather discovered that others really *hate* it just the other day. I don't so it hadn't occurred to me that others do until I had a bit of an altercation with someone on an audax.


I shall adjust my lighting tactics accordingly but not everyone out there doing this is doing it from a selfish 'sod everyone else' point of view.

I didn't mean to imply that flashing lights = selfish tosser. I use flashing lights myself a lot of the time. I was thinking more of the difference between a flashing light that's powerful enough to not only be seen but also highlight road imperfections, and a flashing light that's the equivalent of driving a car with full beams on all the time.

I want to be bright enough that people can't use the "didn't see you" excuse without casting serious doubts on their ability to see at all, but not so bright/so badly set up that people can't see anything other than a blinding light.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on April 22, 2014, 08:51:28 am
While I have given up grumbling about people riding on the footpath, figuring it's better to see a bike rather than yet another car, I would like to point out to Mr Baggy White Trousers on a (clean!) BSO that it is a footpath, not your personal velodrome. Plz to be riding accordingly - schoolkids are not put there to be interesting obstacles to slalom around ::-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: HTFB on April 23, 2014, 10:23:52 pm
You know those Lane Closed vehicles, the ones with the ruddy massive great arrows on the back made out of glowing lights designed so that even narcoleptic morons hypnotised by the monotony of the road can't stay unaware of them at distances of under half a mile, and enhanced with flashing yellow beacons at all salient corners?

Guess who just nearly rode into the back of one.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Marco Stefano on May 04, 2014, 06:20:40 pm
The BSO-riding twit on my side of the road in Ely yesterday lunchtime - I shouted 'Wrong side of the road!' at him as he passed between me and parked cars, but he just carried on. Perhaps he thought the door zone on the right was safer as you might bounce off.  ???

Wouldn't be surprised if he appears in the local paper next week. Hopefully not in the obituary column.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Reg.T on May 15, 2014, 09:05:33 am
My candidate last night was a lady (20s/30s) on a tidy sit-up-and-beg with basket. It was past peak commuting time, but was on the A4 in Bath, and as I was about to overtake she blithely meandered across the lane onto the hatched area in the middle of the road, for no obvious purpose (though possibly for the next right turn further up the road), and with neither a glance nor signal.  ::-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Riggers on May 16, 2014, 12:15:13 pm
I've held off jotting down my particular DOTD, as it happened at least a month ago, but if helps bring a perverse joy combined with shaking-of-head to my fellow YACFer, then so be it. Plus I have time on my hands.

Yes, this particular Gold Star goes to the young lady one evening in Brighton who, instead of cycling round the taxi, decided she "Jolly-well-wanted-to-show-the-taxi-driver-he-shouldn't-have-parked-there!"

Imagine the scene: it's around 10.30pm on a road served by numerous bars and restaurants. It allows one-way traffic for vehicles and two-way for cycles. A lone taxi comes down the road (no other vehicles on the road either) and pulls to a stop, straddling the painted dashed-lined denoted cycle lane, so other cars should they come down the road can pass, and his passengers don't have to cross the road to climb into the taxi. So far so good.

Enter, from the other end of the road (so theoretically against the flow of traffic), the female cycling knob who, rather than just cycle round the taxi, which any sane well-adjusted person would have done, decided to park her bike up against the taxi bumper.

As you can imagine, I muttered "You stupid girl", and couldn't be bothered to stay to witness the ensuing exchange of views between taxi driver and cyclist.

Bet the taxi driver won't be feeling disposed to other cyclists because of her selfish and pointless action.

Class knob.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on May 29, 2014, 11:40:43 pm
After muttering about the letter in the Metro that asked, rhetorically and cylophobically, "When did you last see a car driving on the footpath or going through a red light or through pedestrians on a crossing?*" I was walking back up Balcombe Road. The stretch in question is nsl 60, and coming towards me was a knob on a mountain bike. No lights of any kind, but a reflective waistcoat, at 2145 hrs.

I looked down the road to see what the cars behind him were seeing. The jacket was so dirty that he was only showing up when the cars were within 20 yards of him. Darwin, where art thou?

*Every bloody day, of course. Those cars parked on the footpath, for example. To quote Charlotte, they were dropped there by a bloody TARDIS? And the last time I rode a London Bus, from Vic station to Oxford St, it went through four red lights.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on July 02, 2014, 08:31:40 am
DOT Yesterday Afternoon.

Coming down The Greenway, approaching "my" right turn, at 25 mph. Ahead of me, on the footpath, is a white-haired bloke on an MTB, doing 7-8 mph. I look back to check it's clear to signal and move out. When I look forward again, there's this dick, about 5 feet away directly in front of me, still drifting slowly along. Brake, jink right and shout YOU COULD TRY LOOKING MATE! He jumped. (I'm not surprised - I was loud enough to get an echo off the houses alongside.) He had no idea I was there ::-) I don't think I gave him a heart-attack (though I nearly had one) cos he was still upright when I turned off.

I can only assume he's adopted that particular riding "style" because he's tired of life ::-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on July 02, 2014, 08:54:14 am
I'm not sure it entirely qualifies, but a young lady on the Boris Bike who sallied forth across all the lanes of Parliament Square (and what a splendid testament to our nationhood that is, four lanes of stuttering malodorous traffic) without a care in the world, and a certainly not a glance behind at what, for once, was solid fast-moving traffic.

Somehow it all conspired to not hit her. I suspect the fact that she was an attractive young lady in a flirty short skirt had something to do with the lack of rancour from braking drivers.

I presume a tourist. I kind of like her approach to traffic management, though for a moment I expected it be short-lived and grisly.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tiermat on July 02, 2014, 08:56:13 am
I'm not sure it entirely qualifies, but a young lady on the Boris Bike who sallied forth across all the lanes of Parliament Square (and what a splendid testament to our nationhood that is, four lanes of stuttering malodorous traffic) without a care in the world, and a certain not a glance behind at what, for once, was solid fast-moving traffic.

Somehow it all conspired to not hit her. I suspect the fact that she was an attractive young lady had something to do with the lack of rancour from braking drivers.

I presume a tourist. I kind of like her approach to traffic management, though for a moment I expected the worst.

Probably Italian or Parisian.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: clarion on July 02, 2014, 02:30:15 pm
When can we expect ian to start commuting in a flirty short skirt.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jogler on July 02, 2014, 02:57:01 pm
I'm going to buy a kilt for commuting purposes ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: caerau on July 19, 2014, 01:05:42 pm
Well yesterday coming home on the commute I nominate the arse on a  bike in front of me at the lights crossing North Road by the Music Buidling in Cardiff.


There is a segregated cycle path which of course always fills up with pedestrian groups four abreast.  Annoying but that doesn't excuse his action of riding up behind one group of lads like a bat out of hell and shoulder barging his way through them.  I found myself apologising on his behalf whilst pointing to the big picture of a bicycle on the ground and pointing out that the exclusive pedestrian bit was over there.  Nevertheless, no need for that.  A simple excuse me does the trick in my experience.  >:(
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fields5069 on July 23, 2014, 11:45:15 am
A fine reason for keeping the 'ping!' bell on my bike. It has proved very useful on the lovely path from Newport Sainsburys (Crindau) to Caerleon, and I always get a "thank you" for my troubles. I'm not sure the same would happen in the 'diff though. :-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ian H on July 23, 2014, 12:14:34 pm
I was very pleased with the generous amount of room the overtaking caravanette gave me the other day. The oncoming driver moving a little too fast round the blind bend ahead was less pleased. He managed to avoid the ditch.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: caerau on July 28, 2014, 12:35:14 pm
A fine reason for keeping the 'ping!' bell on my bike. It has proved very useful on the lovely path from Newport Sainsburys (Crindau) to Caerleon, and I always get a "thank you" for my troubles. I'm not sure the same would happen in the 'diff though. :-)


I rather gave up on the bell to be honest.  I found it only worked about 30% of the time.
The rest of the time it either went unheard due to doziness/daydreaming, headphones or less generously through being ignored.  On other occasions it was interpreted as "GET OUT OF THE WAY!" or instilled panic in the pedestrians ahead.


Personally I prefer an excuse me from a reasonable distance behind followed by a second when directly behind if necessary.


Generally I dislike shared use cycle paths though - they're not good for either cyclists or pedestrians frankly.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on July 28, 2014, 12:47:08 pm
I said "Good afternoon" to an elderly couple walking along a narrow country lane with their backs to me, they moved aside, I thanked them and as I passed the man said, "That was so as not to scare us with your bell, wasn't it." Actually, I've taken the bell off that bike, but I do think that on the whole people respond better to an "Excuse me" or similar. Horses especially! The exception is when there's a lot of background noise.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fields5069 on July 28, 2014, 12:57:57 pm
I don't usually like to say anything, so end up stuck behind whoever it is unless I use my bell. I agree it can come off as a "Get out of my way!" though. I was in the centre of Bristol the other day, walking, and was amazed at all the shared use paths, which don't seem to be segregated. It just looked like utter chaos, with so many bikes around.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ian H on July 28, 2014, 01:03:54 pm
If it's shared use  I regard pedestrians as having priority. Also,  if it's shared use,  I avoid it wherever possible.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Bledlow on July 28, 2014, 01:16:58 pm
After muttering about the letter in the Metro that asked, rhetorically and cylophobically, "When did you last see a car driving on the footpath or going through a red light or through pedestrians on a crossing?*" ...

*Every bloody day, of course. Those cars parked on the footpath, for example. To quote Charlotte, they were dropped there by a bloody TARDIS? And the last time I rode a London Bus, from Vic station to Oxford St, it went through four red lights.
It's amazing how people see only what they want to see. When I commuted by bike & train, I occasionally amused myself by totting up such incidents on my journey. It was almost never zero.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on July 28, 2014, 02:10:58 pm
I said "Good afternoon" to an elderly couple walking along a narrow country lane with their backs to me, they moved aside, I thanked them and as I passed the man said, "That was so as not to scare us with your bell, wasn't it." Actually, I've taken the bell off that bike, but I do think that on the whole people respond better to an "Excuse me" or similar. Horses especially! The exception is when there's a lot of background noise.

Agreed.  Polite speech, or mechanical noises (changing gear, flicking brake levers, that sort of thing - studded tyres on brick surfaces are particularly effective) tend to go down better with peds, but I will use a bell on approach to blind corners, as that's loud and unambiguously 'bicycle'.  The exception is Kool Stop brake pads, which tend to spook people.

I prefer a brrring-bell to a ping-bell, and I reckon they're more audible if you're distracted or your high-frequency hearing isn't very good.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hellymedic on July 28, 2014, 02:18:04 pm
I think a HYOOGE Dutch Ping-Pong bell would be most audible across a wide range of frequencies.
Shared use is the jbex of Stan and is mostly best avoided by cyclist who wish to go places. They seem designed to promote chaos and conflict.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on July 28, 2014, 02:20:35 pm
I think a HYOOGE Dutch Ping-Pong bell would be most audible across a wide range of frequencies.

Indeed.  Not sure how well recognised they are as a bicycle bell by the average Brit, but that may be a good thing...


Quote
Shared use is the jbex of Stan and is mostly best avoided by cyclist who wish to go places. They seem designed to promote chaos and conflict.

I reckon they're designed to promote the organisations responsible for creating shared use paths.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: simonp on July 28, 2014, 03:15:27 pm
Central Bristol cyclist on a BMX mounting pavement to weave through pedestrians to get past a car which had slowed to let pedestrians cross.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on July 28, 2014, 03:18:05 pm
If by "shared use" you mean the painted line on the pavement, I agree. But there are many off-road paths shared quite successfully by pedestrians, cyclists, horse riders and runners. It's true that a lot of these also don't go anywhere, but many of them are nevertheless pleasant places for a ride - and for admiring outdoor sculpture.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TimC on July 28, 2014, 05:15:08 pm
Shared-use paths which have no attempt to delineate areas for pedestrians, equestrians or cyclists work quite well, IME. Ok, you're not going to go anywhere quickly - but you shouldn't be trying to on such a path. They're for bimbling, passing the time of day, stopping to admire the view or somesuch, and they generally beget better behaviour than paint-segregated paths.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: HTFB on July 28, 2014, 07:47:48 pm
I said "Good afternoon" to an elderly couple walking along a narrow country lane with their backs to me, they moved aside, I thanked them and as I passed the man said, "That was so as not to scare us with your bell, wasn't it." Actually, I've taken the bell off that bike, but I do think that on the whole people respond better to an "Excuse me" or similar. Horses especially! The exception is when there's a lot of background noise.

Agreed.  Polite speech, or mechanical noises (changing gear, flicking brake levers, that sort of thing - studded tyres on brick surfaces are particularly effective) tend to go down better with peds, but I will use a bell on approach to blind corners, as that's loud and unambiguously 'bicycle'.  The exception is Kool Stop brake pads, which tend to spook people.

I prefer a brrring-bell to a ping-bell, and I reckon they're more audible if you're distracted or your high-frequency hearing isn't very good.
I tend to call "Ting! Ting!" where "Excuse me please" or "Bike on your right" aren't right. Do you think I'd be better changing to "Bring! Bring!"?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Basil on July 28, 2014, 08:42:10 pm
Yes, I call out "ring ring" along with filcking my brake levers.  It mostly elicits a smile.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fields5069 on July 29, 2014, 08:37:33 am
I sometimes use the zombie-esque moan of my poorly maintained disc brakes.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on July 29, 2014, 08:42:22 am
I sometimes use the zombie-esque moan of my poorly maintained disc brakes.

Gentle application of the Hope disc on the back of the Speedmachine would produce a noise not dissimilar to a wolf passing tail-first through a mangle.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: bunker on July 29, 2014, 11:30:53 pm
I said "Good afternoon" to an elderly couple walking along a narrow country lane with their backs to me, they moved aside, I thanked them and as I passed the man said, "That was so as not to scare us with your bell, wasn't it." Actually, I've taken the bell off that bike, but I do think that on the whole people respond better to an "Excuse me" or similar. Horses especially! The exception is when there's a lot of background noise.

Agreed.  Polite speech, or mechanical noises (changing gear, flicking brake levers, that sort of thing - studded tyres on brick surfaces are particularly effective) tend to go down better with peds, but I will use a bell on approach to blind corners, as that's loud and unambiguously 'bicycle'.  The exception is Kool Stop brake pads, which tend to spook people.

I prefer a brrring-bell to a ping-bell, and I reckon they're more audible if you're distracted or your high-frequency hearing isn't very good.
I tend to call "Ting! Ting!" where "Excuse me please" or "Bike on your right" aren't right. Do you think I'd be better changing to "Bring! Bring!"?

I use "Cyclist Approaching". It's not intimidating, is non-confrontational and factual.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jsabine on July 30, 2014, 07:58:02 am
I use 'excuse me' if I'd like them to move out of my way, and 'good morning/afternoon' if I'd like them not to move into my way.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on July 30, 2014, 09:43:44 am
Tadcaster centre has a fairly narrow road through it, single lane each direction. There are roadworks, completely closing one lane, with a diversion round.

So, I nominate for DoTD the polka-dotted cyclist who ignored the diversion and pulled into the other lane. When there was already a transit coming the other way. I found myself making dickhead gestures at them, which I think the driver of the transit appreciated.
   
The diversion probably adds 200m to the route, dickwad.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si_Co on July 30, 2014, 12:31:12 pm
I sometimes use the zombie-esque moan of my poorly maintained disc brakes.

Gentle application of the Hope disc on the back of the Speedmachine would produce a noise not dissimilar to a wolf passing tail-first through a mangle.

Hope freewheels are great, sounds like someone running a stick along railings  ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on July 30, 2014, 02:04:04 pm
I had to use the Shimano-equipped rear wheel from the towpath bike on the 3 Coasts in 2007 as the Hope hub on the Speedmachine needed new bearings.  The lack of noise while coasting was most disconcerting ???
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Pickled Onion on August 06, 2014, 07:29:24 am
On cycle path last night, cyclist came round the corner towards me riding on the right. He could have just been taking the corner a bit wide, so I slowed down, then stopped. I didn't want to go to the right of him in case he swerved to the correct side at the last minute, but no, he squeezed past on my left. He then stopped and shouted at me:
- What's your problem? You could see me coming!
- I thought you would pass on the left...
- Why? Is there a rule about it or somefink?

 :facepalm:

He then carried on. On the right.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on August 06, 2014, 02:03:41 pm
Young adult riding down middle of two-lane, one way road.

The wrong way. On a brakeless BMX. Towards a blind junction.

FFS
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on August 08, 2014, 09:17:32 pm
I nominate Sada the pissweasel fuckpuppet on a Brompton who felt that the "Give Way" sign at the south end of the one-way bit of Endell Street didn't apply to him.  You, Sir, came very close to wearing the Towpath Bike for a hat.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on September 03, 2014, 10:36:52 am
Yesterday's DOTD met the motorised moron, who overtook him and forced an oncoming car to use part of the entrance to the Coppingham to avoid a collision.

The DOTD, though... riding a MBSO north on Balcombe road, hands in pockets, earbuds in, and eyes closed as he grooved to his bangin' toons, innit?

Oy, Darwin...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Basil on September 03, 2014, 06:36:51 pm
I have never been so scared in all my life.  There's a lady I sometimes see in the mornings who rides one of those city bikes with the most elevated handle bars I've ever seen.  This morning I could see her ahead of me as we crawled through slow moving traffic on the Col de Priory Road.  Slowly I car hopped up level with her where she was now behind a large artic.  The road is narrow and on the left is a 5 foot brick wall.  No pavement, no gutter, just road/brick wall. 
The truck ground to a halt, and I promise you, it was no more than18" from the wall.
No, she didn't, did she?  Yes she bloody did!
Scoot, scoot, scoot and she disappeared up the side.  I was horrified.  I shouted "No!!!!!!!" as loudly as I could and the wondered what to do.  I couldn't pull out and get cab high on the truck as the road was too narrow to get past the oncoming traffic.
Then the truck moved off again for a few feet and she reappeared.  I swear it was rubbing the shoulder of her jacket.
Of course I then tried to proffer advice.  All I got was a look that suggested that she'd be ignoring random old blokes trying make unwelcome advances, thankyouverymuch.

When she dies, and she will, it will of course be anyone's fault but the cyclist.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mattc on September 03, 2014, 07:10:56 pm
Oh great - new school term. Impatience cranked up enormously in the last 48 hours.

Yesterday was crap. This morning I got honked at - followed by aggresive revving bullshit - for the heinous crime of overtaking a stationary queue  :facepalm:

(Rather glad I had a half-day today, no evening rush-hour for me.)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Redlight on September 04, 2014, 10:11:18 am
The two cyclists in Blackheath village who undertook me at a junction as I was signalling the left turn I was about to make.  Happily I saw them in my left hand mirror, as I slowed down, and stopped.  >:(
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tatanab on September 05, 2014, 11:00:50 am
Teenager on an MTB too small for him - catches up with a car at a T junction.  Car is turning right so teenager moves alongside the right hand side of the car just as it pulls away.  He then proceeds to bully the car to a stop so that he can cross in front and go back to his gutter hugging.

10:30 pm in dark lanes.  I see the lights of a vehicle approaching around a bend so prepare to see a car.  It's not.  It is a cyclist with a blast it everywhere mega power light on his handlebars and another on his head.  Aaaaaaargh, my eyes.  On my dynamo powered headlight with a proper cut off beam I was riding more quickly than he was.  I admit I swore at him.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Zipperhead on September 18, 2014, 02:51:59 pm
Commuting into central London every day there's no shortage of bellends on bikes, but one this morning really took the biscuit for incredible stupidity.

I was approaching this junction (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4497726,-0.2026126,3a,75y,23.15h,89.08t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sdG4Eu6sP72f6Apdvg2HD9A!2e0), in primary intending to turn right at the mini roundabout. There were no vehicles behind me, but there were a couple of cars approaching from the left and straight ahead.

It's not a place to rush into because until you get up to the give way line the church blocks any view of traffic approaching from the right (and even when you get there the visibility isn't good).

So, just about when I got to the zebra crossing a bicycle came from behind me, went past the traffic islands on the wrong side of the road, in the middle of the lane and then around the right hand side of the roundabout to turn right.

Had anything come from the turning on the right then the world idiot count would have been reduced by one (well, until the next one was born).

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: rogerzilla on September 19, 2014, 07:03:28 pm
Two young lovers tonguing in the middle of the psyclepath.  i couldn't think of anything witty to shout, sadly.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Vince on September 20, 2014, 02:11:54 am
Wouldn't "Get on the fucking pavement" have worked?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Tim Hall on September 20, 2014, 04:01:27 pm
Two young lovers tonguing in the middle of the psyclepath.

It seems Roger has stumbled across an early draft of "That's Enterttainment". Mr Weller later decided the "missing the tranquility of solitude" sounded much more pretentious better. And what's more, it scanned.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: closetleftie on September 21, 2014, 10:04:09 pm
Wouldn't "Get fucking on the pavement" have worked?

FTFY.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spesh on September 22, 2014, 12:28:27 am
Wouldn't "Get fucking on the pavement" have worked?

FTFY.

 ;D

I thought "Get a room!" was standard operating procedure language in such instances.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: PeteB99 on September 22, 2014, 11:06:01 am
Wouldn't "Get fucking on the pavement" have worked?

FTFY.

 ;D

I thought "Get a room!" was standard operating procedure language in such instances.


Miserable old gits. Weren't any of you young and full of hormones once?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on September 22, 2014, 12:42:26 pm
I thought "Get a room!" was standard operating procedure language in such instances.

They're teenagers.  The whole reason they're snogging on the cyclepath is that they can't get a room.

Barakta and I once famously encountered some on a very exposed bench on the Rea Valley path under cover of winter darkness.  We rode past without comment, on the basis that being lit up by our combined FRIKKIN LASERS was embarrassing enough.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: davelodwig on September 22, 2014, 03:01:01 pm
I thought "Get a room!" was standard operating procedure language in such instances.

They're teenagers.  The whole reason they're snogging on the cyclepath is that they can't get a room.

Barakta and I once famously encountered some on a very exposed bench on the Rea Valley path under cover of winter darkness.  We rode past without comment, on the basis that being lit up by our combined FRIKKIN LASERS was embarrassing enough.

I once ran over an older amorous couple in Sutton Park.

I was with one of my uni friends and we were having a day of whizzing round the bush trails that cross all over the place, highlights had been such wonders as discovering there is a bog in Sutton Park and the shop running out of ice cream. However as I came hurtling around a bend on a lovely bramble sided slope there across the path was a very naked lady upon a slightly undressed man, I couldn't stop quick enough and I'm not sure who screamed more me or them but I remember going over the handlebars thinking, well this is unusual.

Thankfully no one seriously hurt, I had to bail because my knees no longer worked terribly well after using them as a landing device. The couple didn't hang around very long, so I suspect they probably were not a item, I imagine the cuts and bruises might be hard to explain to their actual partners.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: rafletcher on September 24, 2014, 08:55:20 am
Driving down Tring Hill last evening on the way home, the MAMIL in red and white that came out of the Wendover junction on the left without looking or slowing. So far so usual, then he takes primary, also fine. I pass and pull back in. Out of habit I check my mirrors in time to see him swerve violently to his right to avoid a rough patch - straight into the path of the car about to pass him. Eeek! He was completely oblivious of the traffic, and maybe thought 25mph was fast enough that he didn't need to worry it. he was wrong.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Otto on September 24, 2014, 10:57:31 am
Every cyclist in front of me in the rain to tody who didn't have a mudguard.>>>> GRRRRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on September 25, 2014, 09:37:04 am
Me, yesterday, about 7 pm. I was in a hurry, which is perhaps why I forgot that earlier in the day I'd cleaned the grime off my rims and blocks and had deliberately not closed the brake quick releases, in order to aid drying... No braking at all. I live at the apex of a hill, with a give way at the bottom... So the obvious thing to do is to drag your foot on the floor. This works well enough in daps, but shiny metal on the sole of your shoe has virtually no friction. I considered running into the back of a parked car, but was going a bit fast for that. It was actually the junction that saved me, because it is very quiet and on the other side of it the road carries on in a straight line but goes up hill. So I just went straight over, didn't even look, and fortunately there was nothing - except a man pushing a bike across the other side of the road, chatting into his phone. He hadn't seen me and even if he had he would have assumed I'd stop at the junction, but now we were on a collision course. Panicked shouting from me and he stopped, probably wondering what kind of idiot I was. Managed to stop in a semi-controlled fashion.

I have never been so terrified in my life!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Moultonaught on September 25, 2014, 09:52:35 am
Me, yesterday, about 7 pm. I was in a hurry, which is perhaps why I forgot that earlier in the day I'd cleaned the grime off my rims and blocks and had deliberately not closed the brake quick releases, in order to aid drying... No braking at all. I live at the apex of a hill, with a give way at the bottom... So the obvious thing to do is to drag your foot on the floor. This works well enough in daps, but shiny metal on the sole of your shoe has virtually no friction. I considered running into the back of a parked car, but was going a bit fast for that. It was actually the junction that saved me, because it is very quiet and on the other side of it the road carries on in a straight line but goes up hill. So I just went straight over, didn't even look, and fortunately there was nothing - except a man pushing a bike across the other side of the road, chatting into his phone. He hadn't seen me and even if he had he would have assumed I'd stop at the junction, but now we were on a collision course. Panicked shouting from me and he stopped, probably wondering what kind of idiot I was. Managed to stop in a semi-controlled fashion.


I have never been so terrified in my life!


:o Glad you're OK, and that nothing was coming as you crossed the junction.

My 2 DOTDs (in a journey of less than 2 miles!) were 

1) The PCSO on a bike who was proceeding along the main road in an unorderly fashion. I was waiting on a side road with a bunch of other cycle commuters to cross the road he was on, to go straight on (it's a cross roads). He was obviously looking for a particular side road and paused, swerved, dithered, continued, paused, swerved, dithered,  continued, eventually stopping in front of us blocking our route, before continuing along the road....

2) the bloke this morning who was happily looking at his phone whilst cycling directly towards me at a fair pace in a ped/cycle only bit of road by work. A VERY curt shout of "LOOK" from me resolved the situation...  :)

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on September 25, 2014, 10:13:45 am
Remember, kids, it's as easy as ABC: Air, Brakes, Chain.  :facepalm:

A look at the soles of my shoes now shows the left cleat to be subtly reshaped. Still works, though!



To the person I was going to nominate before my little incident, I wanted to say "Those yellow lines at the side of the road are not guide lines!" If you carry on riding with your front wheel between them, particularly where the pavement is narrow, you're going to collide with a pedestrian - you almost hit my elbow.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on September 25, 2014, 02:05:26 pm
I did something similar once on Whiteladies Road after borrowing a flatmate's bike.  I was in a coursework deadline hurry and hadn't considered the implications of riding a bike straight from Cambridge, as yet untested on Bristol's roads.   :facepalm:


In other DOTD news, me, yesterday:  Passing a car on the left at speed as it moved to turn right into a side-road, only then realising that it had flashed a slow-moving bus out of the junction.  Fortunately the road was dry and I was onna bent with a proliferation of well-adjusted brakes, and managed to stop in a surprisingly short distance indeed with only a little bit of fishtailing.  The bus driver was paying attention and had by then stopped in the middle of the road to wave me through, but I'd just done an emergency stop in a ~90" gear, so that wasn't happening.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on September 25, 2014, 02:15:10 pm
For future reference, resting the left heel on the chainstay and rubbing against the rear tyre in BMX kid-style is a very effective and controllable brake. Pressing a mudguard against the tyre makes little difference to whether you can ride away from the stop (yes, in my experience).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: benborp on September 26, 2014, 01:05:27 am
"I didn't realize that you had laid claim to that particular piece of road."

No, I hadn't. And that isn't how I ride in any way at all. However, that particular piece of road was two inches in front of my front wheel and I was moving off from a standing start. My failed clipping in and sudden foot down resulted in an egg sized lump on my left shin and a subdued exclamation of 'Cheers.' The lump and the way you treated three other road users over the next hundred yards before jumping the lights and heading off to Clapham says you are a dick. Particularly on a day when the A23 had as many bodies sprawled over it as normal behaviour, for some inexplicable reason, normally fails to produce.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fboab on September 26, 2014, 01:01:42 pm
For future reference, resting the left heel on the chainstay and rubbing against the rear tyre in BMX kid-style is a very effective and controllable brake. Pressing a mudguard against the tyre makes little difference to whether you can ride away from the stop (yes, in my experience).
I guess this is much like how the toe of a sandal makes a fairly effective front derailleur, in extremis.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on September 26, 2014, 03:16:17 pm
For future reference, resting the left heel on the chainstay and rubbing against the rear tyre in BMX kid-style is a very effective and controllable brake.

I once followed a bod on a BSO lacking such niceties of modern living as brake cables.  This was his sole means of stopping.  This was in rush hour traffic down the hill past Holloway Prison :o

I kept my distance.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on September 29, 2014, 07:05:04 pm
This morning, on the way to the quack. I saw him mounting his BSO outside the station, and thought his full waterproof hi-viz two piece suit to be rather warm for cycling. When I stopped in the ASL at the bottom of the little slope, he shot past me and through the red light. I raised my hands in despair, and looked round to see the driver behind me giving a similar gesture.

Lights change, second set are green, so I'm quickly behind POB, who then veers onto the wrong side of the road and onto the pavement, where he continued at the same speed with no regard for the street furniture-induced pinch points or the peds.

Looking behind him would have been difficult, as he had the hood of the yellow jacket pulled tight and partly over his eyes.


On a different note, riding back the same way at 2340 that night, I was going down the other little slope after the railway bridge. Coming toward me, on the other side of the road, was a man in a hi-viz vest, wearing headphones, walking backwards along the yellow lines.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on September 30, 2014, 10:13:09 am
This morning, on the way to the quack. I saw him mounting his BSO outside the station, and thought his full waterproof hi-viz two piece suit to be rather warm for cycling. When I stopped in the ASL at the bottom of the little slope, he shot past me and through the red light. I raised my hands in despair, and looked round to see the driver behind me giving a similar gesture.

Lights change, second set are green, so I'm quickly behind POB, who then veers onto the wrong side of the road and onto the pavement, where he continued at the same speed with no regard for the street furniture-induced pinch points or the peds.

Looking behind him would have been difficult, as he had the hood of the yellow jacket pulled tight and partly over his eyes.


On a different note, riding back the same way at 2340 that night, I was going down the other little slope after the railway bridge. Coming toward me, on the other side of the road, was a man in a hi-viz vest, wearing headphones, walking backwards along the yellow lines.
Almost certainly not the case here, but it occurs to me this would be perfect bike-thief wear. The hood prevents identification while the whole outfit makes you look like you should be on a bike.  :(
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on September 30, 2014, 01:18:46 pm
Almost certainly not the case here, but it occurs to me this would be perfect bike-thief wear. The hood prevents identification while the whole outfit makes you look like you should be on a bike.  :(

Or indeed wandering around with a set of sturdy bolt cutters...

Of course, the illusion is only maintained if they don't nick a decent bike.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on October 02, 2014, 08:33:50 am
Baggy white trousers hoody on BSO slaloming roud schoolkids on the footpath as mentioned upthread no longer slaloms round schoolkids on the footpath. His tyres are so soft that all the energy he used to put into slaloming round schoolkids on the footpath is now expended just making his BSO go forwards. Still on the footpath though.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on October 02, 2014, 08:50:19 am
Me :-[

Developed a cold between yesterday ride home and setting off this morning so head was a bit wishy washy. 100 yards up the road, approaching a mini roundabout, silver BMW overtakes and then slows rapidly due to traffic. I set to pass as he exits the roundabout due to more traffic on his exit. he sets off, I commit to the overtake through the roundabout, he has opted to go right round and seek an alternative route. Combined BMW and Cannondale braking prevents bloodshed.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Bledlow on October 02, 2014, 12:49:37 pm
Cemetery Junction, Reading.

Pedestrian started crossing the side street (one way, only accessible from my direction) I was about to turn into. He had his back to me, & didn't look. So far so normal, & I was prepared. I braked & steered to go behind him, as he was clearly unaware of my presence (or that of the car behind me).  I must have registered in his peripheral vision as I went round the corner, because he suddenly stopped, looked round & stepped backwards directly into my path. So I steered the other way & passed slowly a couple of paces in front of him while he appeared poised for another step back.

I heard something about 'bloody cyclists' as I passed.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: red marley on October 04, 2014, 07:40:47 am
The pedestrian would have had priority in that situation and you and any other traffic should be giving way and waiting for them to cross before turning (https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/road-junctions-170-to-183).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on October 04, 2014, 11:24:57 am
Cemetery Junction, Reading.

Pedestrian started crossing the side street (one way, only accessible from my direction) I was about to turn into. He had his back to me, & didn't look. So far so normal, & I was prepared. I braked & steered to go behind him, as he was clearly unaware of my presence (or that of the car behind me).  I must have registered in his peripheral vision as I went round the corner, because he suddenly stopped, looked round & stepped backwards directly into my path. So I steered the other way & passed slowly a couple of paces in front of him while he appeared poised for another step back.

I heard something about 'bloody cyclists' as I passed.
I have to say that this is a tough one. If, when making a turn into a side street, there's both a pedestrian crossing and a car right on your back wheel (that's not making the turn), it's hard to balance what to do.

In the same way that very occasionally I feel obliged to go through a light that I would under normal circumstances stop at, because I am sure the driver of the car behind won't also stop.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on October 04, 2014, 12:20:07 pm
I have to say that this is a tough one. If, when making a turn into a side street, there's both a pedestrian crossing and a car right on your back wheel (that's not making the turn), it's hard to balance what to do.

I tend to err on the side of highway code in such situations.  Though it invariably confuses the pedestrian, who will probably stop in the middle of the road to wait for me to make the turn and deadlock the whole thing.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: teethgrinder on October 05, 2014, 08:53:11 am
The Highway Code says that you must "give way," which need not be a stop.
I try to make eye contact and position myself or maneuver (slowing down is a good tactic), so that the pedestrian realises that I have seen them and am actively avoiding them. If they dither a bit, not knowing what to do, I give a wide berth and go.
I usualy slow right down but rarely stop.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 05, 2014, 03:43:06 pm
I often actively nod pedestrians across when they are dithering, sometimes verbally. Yes, I'm aware this is in contravention of the HC. Whether I'd do it with a car behind me would probably depend on whether I thought the driver was going to stay behind me or overtake regardless.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Canardly on October 05, 2014, 04:51:52 pm
I was a bit of a DOTD today when making a right turn, didnt see car behind me and therefore had a close one ....
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on October 05, 2014, 07:50:57 pm
A conker, rolling downhill on the wrong side of Lickey Road and through the perpetually red light[1] at the car factory.  Wasn't even wearing a helmet.   :D


[1] My working theory is that the strong bias in favour of the minor road in the phasing is a cunning plan by the council to reduce speeding on that section of road by ensuring there's always a short queue of cars at the lights.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on October 13, 2014, 12:32:42 pm
me on Friday afternoon.

The trains were b******d by a signal failure so I had ridden to Wokinham, fluked a train towards home but had to get off one stop early as it was now not stopping at my prefered station.

So now I am riding home from the early station, only a couple of miles so no problem. Then I get to here (https://www.google.co.uk/maps?ll=51.392409,-0.638102&spn=0.000013,0.015643&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=51.392409,-0.638102&panoid=QjNED4tr4JRE4U0LioCjTg&cbp=12,138.38,,0,6.87) only since google drove through a traffic calming scheme has been installed in the bottom of the valley. Now this is a nice decent down and then a climb back out the otherside. The traffic calming involves narrowing the road on both sides down to a single lane and give ways in both dirrections with a speed pillow thing in the middle. Again no issue as the cyclist can keep their momentum miss the pillow and proceed up the hill....


Unless of course you are overtaken on approach to the traffic calming, and here comes the stupid bit. Once the merc had passed me I expected it to slow a bit for the traffic calming but hoped for minimal retardation and loss of momentum...

No the biddy slowed to a crawl and I had to brake rather hard not to run into the back of her, on leaf debris, in the wet.  :facepalm: When the pedals of a fixie aren't turning and you are still moving forward it feels very strange.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 13, 2014, 12:39:05 pm
I'm not sure that's so much you being DOTD as the driver being JIAM.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on October 13, 2014, 01:26:53 pm
No I was too hopeful of maintaining momentum. She slowed a little at first whilst confirming the oncomming vehicle was giving way and I hoped she would continue through at that pace and closed up behind aiming to maintain my pace. However the driver in question then slowed further for the speed pillow thing and then I was in trouble as I had already closed up. Locking the rear wheel on the debris just further demonstrated my misjudgement.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Bledlow on October 13, 2014, 02:17:02 pm
The pedestrian would have had priority in that situation and you and any other traffic should be giving way and waiting for them to cross before turning (https://www.gov.uk/using-the-road-159-to-203/road-junctions-170-to-183).
I was trying to give way to him, by slowing to a crawl & aiming to pass behind him.

Think of approaching a roundabout in a car. There is already a car on the roundabout. You aim to join the roundabout behind it. But the driver, after passing the road you are joining from, suddenly notices & you & reacts by slamming on his brakes & reversing into the space you were about to drive into.

That's effectively what happened. If he'd stopped dead I'd have gone behind him.  He was already past the line I was following.

The driving test nowadays can very easily be failed by not paying attention to people who might move into your path, even though you have priority. You won't get as far as the actual driving part: you'll fail on the computer-based test. No test for pedestrians, of course (& rightly so), but the Highway Code says this about what he was doing -
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At a junction. When crossing the road, look out for traffic turning into the road, especially from behind you. If you have started crossing and traffic wants to turn into the road, you have priority and they should give way (see Rule 170).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: red marley on October 28, 2014, 04:51:23 pm
At lunchtime today I, as a pedestrian, cross a road on a green beeping pelican crossing. A youf onna bike ignores red and weaves around behind me prompting me to have to speed up a little to avoid a close encounter.

So far, so normal; youfs still have some growing up time, so I can put up with this without too many wasted heartbeats. However, just as I am dodging him, another bloke on a bike, this time in his 30s or 40s, reasonably smartly dressed, comes from the other direction, also crossing red while my little green man continues to beep plaintively and I'm stuck in the middle of the road. This time I have to stop sharply to avoid a collision.

In a despairing voice a call out "Red light!", more in a weary 'give us a break' tone than anything else. To which he shouts as he rides off "At least I didn't hit you!".

Still, at least he didn't hit me.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on October 29, 2014, 09:04:25 am
Perhaps you should have hit him.  A right cross to the jaw.

"We do not condone inflicting GBH on random passers-by, dicks though they may well be" - The Mgt.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: aidan.f on October 30, 2014, 08:39:33 pm
Accidentally catching the strap of a bag on his handlebars would have taught him a lesson.






Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on October 31, 2014, 10:07:32 am
I think I mentioned the time a courier tried the pedestrian crossing wiggle outside Holborn station. A burly guy reached out and grabbed his messenger bag strap. Bike continued. Courier didn't.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on October 31, 2014, 10:26:30 am
Seen yesterday evening:
flat bars with silly plastic grips - check
No mudguards and wet dirty water splattered over rider, etc - check
No brakes - check
Riding on pavement - check
Fixed gear - negative. It's single speed. No brake, single speed, being ridden on the pavement by a fucking hipster 'dude'.

Areshole
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tiermat on October 31, 2014, 10:32:38 am
Seen yesterday evening:
flat bars with silly plastic grips - check
No mudguards and wet dirty water splattered over rider, etc - check
No brakes - check
Riding on pavement - check
Fixed gear - negative. It's single speed. No brake, single speed, being ridden on the pavement by a fucking hipster 'dude'.

Areshole

York or Leeds? I have noticed, over the last two weeks that there appears to be 3 types of cyclists in Leeds:

1) The ones who do it properly, waterproof jackets, mudguards, well looked after bikes
2) The hipsters
3) Those on BSOs

Guess which two types are, usually, NOT on the road, but on the footpath.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: sojournermike on October 31, 2014, 10:47:11 am
Seen yesterday evening:
flat bars with silly plastic grips - check
No mudguards and wet dirty water splattered over rider, etc - check
No brakes - check
Riding on pavement - check
Fixed gear - negative. It's single speed. No brake, single speed, being ridden on the pavement by a fucking hipster 'dude'.

Areshole

Phil

You're riding singlespeed, ergo you're half a hipster;) Bet you don't ride the pavements...

I was amused chatting to a guy one day about his singlespeed in Leeds. It was running 53:15 and when I asked about the hills he just grimaced and admintted they were 'dificult'



York or Leeds? I have noticed, over the last two weeks that there appears to be 3 types of cyclists in Leeds:

1) The ones who do it properly, waterproof jackets, mudguards, well looked after bikes
2) The hipsters
3) Those on BSOs

Guess which two types are, usually, NOT on the road, but on the footpath.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on October 31, 2014, 10:48:03 am
Please bear with us while the fence around Hackney is completed.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tonyh on October 31, 2014, 10:48:33 am
Areshole

Off-topically grabbing another chance to giggle:

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=80450.msg1701451#msg1701451

(Thanks, Mrcharly and Wobbly)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tiermat on October 31, 2014, 10:51:02 am
Seen yesterday evening:
flat bars with silly plastic grips - check
No mudguards and wet dirty water splattered over rider, etc - check
No brakes - check
Riding on pavement - check
Fixed gear - negative. It's single speed. No brake, single speed, being ridden on the pavement by a fucking hipster 'dude'.

Areshole

Phil

You're riding singlespeed, ergo you're half a hipster;) Bet you don't ride the pavements...

I was amused chatting to a guy one day about his singlespeed in Leeds. It was running 53:15 and when I asked about the hills he just grimaced and admintted they were 'dificult'



York or Leeds? I have noticed, over the last two weeks that there appears to be 3 types of cyclists in Leeds:

1) The ones who do it properly, waterproof jackets, mudguards, well looked after bikes
2) The hipsters
3) Those on BSOs

Guess which two types are, usually, NOT on the road, but on the footpath.

Weeeeelll, I would be, had I actually found where the bike racks are at work (and no, I'm not leaving out the front of the building all day!)

There are a couple of cyclists in the office, shall ask one of them the next time I see him.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: red marley on October 31, 2014, 11:19:28 am
Seen yesterday evening:
Fixed gear - negative. It's single speed. No brake, single speed, being ridden on the pavement by a fucking hipster 'dude'.

Really? No braking ability at all? I've seen my fair share of dooods on clown bikes, but never, as far as I am aware, freewheels with no brakes at all (bmx trail bikes excepted). That's going to cost them a fair bit in worn Vans (and dental repair work).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on October 31, 2014, 12:11:50 pm
Seen yesterday evening:
Fixed gear - negative. It's single speed. No brake, single speed, being ridden on the pavement by a fucking hipster 'dude'.

Really? No braking ability at all? I've seen my fair share of dooods on clown bikes, but never, as far as I am aware, freewheels with no brakes at all (bmx trail bikes excepted). That's going to cost them a fair bit in worn Vans (and dental repair work).

I saw one going down Walworth Road once. Caught in traffic, I noted no brakes, fair enough I think, hipster fixie type probably planning to invade Peckham. Then we start moving again and I notice he's not pedalling...

About 200 metres further down the road I discovered how he stopped himself. It involved the back of a number 176 bus. Unconventional, I'm sure, but hey, that's counter-culture for you. I sure others simply rely on the beard-related air braking to regulate their speed.

Edit: and yes, I know it's mad. Who'd ride a bike at speed through traffic and red lights without a brake?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on October 31, 2014, 12:13:53 pm
And what speed was the parked car doing when it moved sideways into you?

Yes, I burst out laughing.

Yes, I called you a twat.

Next time you try to take a short-cut across our car park you'll think of not reading your kindle while doing so :facepalm: ::-)

Is your front wheel badly bent, mate?

Oh, and the owner of the now-dented Discovery outranbks you by quite some way.

Have a nice day now. :D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on October 31, 2014, 12:15:53 pm
Seen yesterday evening:
Fixed gear - negative. It's single speed. No brake, single speed, being ridden on the pavement by a fucking hipster 'dude'.

Really? No braking ability at all? I've seen my fair share of dooods on clown bikes, but never, as far as I am aware, freewheels with no brakes at all (bmx trail bikes excepted). That's going to cost them a fair bit in worn Vans (and dental repair work).

What about the ubiquitous BSO with both V-brake noodles unhooked to give clearance for the shockingly out of true wheels?  Unless you count BSO bearings and tyres as a form of braking, I suppose...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on October 31, 2014, 03:21:10 pm
York or Leeds? I have noticed, over the last two weeks that there appears to be 3 types of cyclists in Leeds:

1) The ones who do it properly, waterproof jackets, mudguards, well looked after bikes
2) The hipsters
3) Those on BSOs

Guess which two types are, usually, NOT on the road, but on the footpath.

Leeds.

The darker days have led to an increase in the number of salmon, ninjas and pavement surfers.

Category (2) cyclists don't really need brakes as with the busy pavements in leeds they seldom move faster than walking speed anyway.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: aidan.f on November 01, 2014, 10:11:57 pm
The rider who considers a laser of deth is needed on the rear of his bike in Fareham, even in daylight eye-wateringly bright, and wait for it, red, white?, red flashes at one second intervals. I hope I am never near your rear in any type of vehicle on a dark and rainy evening. Get a proper light mate!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Moultonaught on November 03, 2014, 09:46:58 am
the bloke repeatedly riding around in circles  - on a road just up from Marylebone station.  and when a couple of buses beeped him as he swerved across in front of them  -  he'd just smile and wave....  and then repeat!!  :facepalm: scary....
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on November 03, 2014, 10:52:26 am
One-man critical mass^ ???
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Moultonaught on November 03, 2014, 10:55:51 am
maybe!  ;D I thought at first he was just doing an ill-judged u -turn having missed his side-turn but then he just carried on riding in circles! & smiling!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Torslanda on November 06, 2014, 06:22:15 pm
Please wait while we complete the fence around Marylebone Station area . . .
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on November 07, 2014, 05:25:38 pm
Unlit bike?  Wong way up a one-way street?  Street in question one of three mainish roads that make up the Crystal Palace Triangle?

Congratulations, young lady.  Your Darwin Award will be delivered shortly.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: handcyclist on November 09, 2014, 10:18:46 pm
Me, yesterday.

Well, more Pillock of the Day really  ;D.

In a rush to get my rental van back before the office shut at midday. I gather up the workaday bike, or Old Faithful as it would rather be known, and throw a pair of winter gloves in the panniers as it's squally and the skies look threatening. In the back of the van she goes and I set off.

I made the depot in time, the handover was painless, and I reach into my panniers for some goretex loveliness as the rain is descending.

Imagine my joy as I found two right gloves ....... ::-).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hellymedic on November 09, 2014, 11:59:19 pm
Hope you were able to turn one inside out...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Deano on November 10, 2014, 12:05:02 am
Today, I wasn't sure whether to be amused or annoyed by the oik who went straight over the light-controlled bridge over the Gaunless at Evenwood, against the red light, while texting on his phone. And overtaking a learner driver who was waiting for the lights to change.

I was riding over the bridge the other way - I'd have shouted a warning if there had been any traffic behind me. Honest.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on November 13, 2014, 01:00:08 am
Well, it WAS Evenwood...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Deano on November 13, 2014, 12:10:58 pm
It's not called the Gormless Valley for nowt!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Zipperhead on November 13, 2014, 12:14:13 pm
So I'm carefully and slowly threading my way along the inside of some stationary traffic (there's a bridge blocking the outside) and ahead of me is another cyclist. She's slowing down because just in front of her is a large truck about to go into a left hand bend. Sensible.

Until some complete and utter fucking dickwad on a bicycle comes up from behind me, and obviously his journey is too important so he overtakes me and goes into the space between me and the bicycle in front. Which isn't long enough to accomodate a bicycle, so his back wheel knocks my front wheel sideways.

Does he apologise? Does he fuck, up the inside of the truck he goes. I carefully went around the outside (I wish to live) and carefully through the bends, but the idiot didn't bother to stop at the red traffic light.

No doubt he thought that as he was wearing a helmet and hi-viz then he was safe.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on November 13, 2014, 06:49:57 pm
Road bike. No lights. No high viz. Didn't even notice pedal reflectors.
But that's OK because he was on the pavement.
Which is only wide enough for one person to walk on and feels a bit narrow even then.
And has a slope towards the road.
And has wet leaves on it at this time of year.
And he didn't look comfortable, wobbling all over the place.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: benborp on November 17, 2014, 10:20:12 am
For the love of Dave! If you rock up after twenty other cyclists have come to a stop at a set of lights after getting there before you and you position yourself in the right hand lane of two in order to get to the front, surely, surely, you must have an inkling that:

There may be the possibility that one/two/several cyclists on your inside will be faster away when the lights change?

That moving straight in towards the kerb is going to cause, at the least, some inconvenience?

That if you're going to do that, the briefest glimpse to your left might be of some benefit?

That fitting your pannier on the right instead might just buy the rest of us enough space to avoid having our front wheels taken out by your supreme numptiness. (it currently has a streak of brake crud from my front rim running down it)?

Just so you know, anticipating the lights by half a second doesn't improve the situation in anyway whatsoever.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on November 18, 2014, 10:09:43 am
I know it's not a busy road, Horseys, but I bet you'd whine like self-entitled bus transmissions if you came up behind a pair of two-abreast cyclists when in Daddy's Range-Rover :demon:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on November 18, 2014, 08:37:24 pm
Riding on an unlit, national speed limit, narrow, unlit road. 
No front light.
A dim flashing white light on the back!
The only reason I saw you was the reflective bands on your 'council worker' issue trousers.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: benborp on November 19, 2014, 09:38:07 am
Having my left arm sticking out to the side while waiting at a set of lights serves two purposes. Well done, your dickishness negated both. Wouldn't it be worth a pause for thought if your intended manoeuvre requires stopping and pushing someone's signalling arm out of the way in order to continue?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on November 19, 2014, 09:50:44 am
Left arms can be unpredictable, like swing doors.

You must never do such a terrible thing :demon:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Clare on November 19, 2014, 09:57:45 am
Oooh, I once smacked a PORHoS* in the face whilst signalling left as I approached a roundabout. It was his own fault for attempting an undertake.




*Pillock On a Rusty Heap o' Shit
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: benborp on November 19, 2014, 10:15:18 am
Last week, while slowly filtering down The Cut I did have the opportunity to whisper in another rider's ear "What would happen if I signalled left NOW?" I don't think he understood, even when I did gain space, signalled left and pulled up.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on November 19, 2014, 11:46:10 am
Let's have a shout out for the SPD wobblers who cut to the front. They're lean, mean cycling machines. They've got to have pole position for that green light.

Cue 30 seconds of random slow wobbling across the junction as they try and clip back in.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tatanab on November 19, 2014, 12:11:49 pm
Let's have a shout out for the SPD wobblers who cut to the front. They're lean, mean cycling machines. They've got to have pole position for that green light.

Cue 30 seconds of random slow wobbling across the junction as they try and clip back in.
That irritates me on club rides.  We all want to get  across the junction so fiddle around turning your pedal over once you are across.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Torslanda on November 19, 2014, 01:11:06 pm
Surely using clipless pedals means that you can pedal with one leg?

Stopping in the right gear means you can get going again easily. Is it just me that gets up to speed before farting around trying to get my cleats to engage?

Somebody pass me the SHUVEL . . .
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SlowCoach on November 19, 2014, 01:17:49 pm
Cue 30 seconds of random slow wobbling across the junction as they try and clip back in.

Were you watching Ruthie and myself on the tandem at the weekend?  ;D

I thought we had got away with that one relatively unobserved... I think wobble was an understatement as I tried to clip in with my stoker powering away behind  :o

We sort of sussed it eventually
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: teethgrinder on November 19, 2014, 03:47:05 pm
Is it just me that gets up to speed before farting around trying to get my cleats to engage?


Not so easy if you ride a fixed wheel with a low gear.
Fixed wheeling has taught me to clip in while I accelerate, if not as soon as my foot hits the pedal.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on November 19, 2014, 03:53:37 pm
You don't get this problem with toe-clips. Which is why these new-fangled clipless things will never catch on.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SlowCoach on November 20, 2014, 01:23:12 pm
You don't get this problem with toe-clips. Which is why these new-fangled clipless things will never catch on.
Hate to disagree but I remember from my tandem exploits of some 40 years ago having a stoker who would delight in trying to change the cadence as I leaned down to tighten the straps on the toeclips - this was a trick he usually pulled after a long (rather too long) session in the pub. Drunken, belligerent stokers were one thing that put me off tandems for many years (that, and having our 23 foot sea kayak trailer overtake us on the hair pin going down Wrynose Pass).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: clarion on November 20, 2014, 05:37:40 pm
Is it just me that gets up to speed before farting around trying to get my cleats to engage?


Not so easy if you ride a fixed wheel with a low gear.
Fixed wheeling has taught me to clip in while I accelerate, if not as soon as my foot hits the pedal.
When have you ever ridden what could reasonably regarded as a low gear fixed? ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on November 20, 2014, 05:46:15 pm
Ooh, I've heard tell that some of TG's fixed gears were only in double figures!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: IanN on November 26, 2014, 12:02:22 pm
To the young woman on the the shiny new cycle path alongside the river (and adjacent road) in Bristol
Precisely what gives you the right to jump the red light and force your way through a mass of pedestrians crossing the road?

Particularly as , (because said cycle path has been partly closed as it's now falling into the river) your path after the lights was blocked.

Gast suitably flabbered and lazy stereotypes about all the real morons on bikes being men adjusted accordingly

(although yesterday's unlit BSO Captain on the Portishead road takes the prize on that front)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on November 26, 2014, 12:03:54 pm
Is that Clarence Road with the shiny new bus stop island gizmo? If so, what's it like - apart from falling into the river already?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: IanN on November 26, 2014, 12:17:53 pm
Yes - Clarence Road. Looks good, and it will be great when it's finished/repaired  as I get almost daily close passes on York Road (t'other side) on my way home





(I've even been known to take to the pavement as the safer option when its wet and 'orrible :o. Slowing to walking pace to pass the occasional pedestrians , obviously   O:-)  edit: does that make me a hypocrite? not sure)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on November 26, 2014, 12:24:07 pm
I thought there was a white line on the pavement cycle path on York Rd. Is that only on Coronation Road?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on December 02, 2014, 08:41:27 am
I have to nominate myself, the only reason I got to work was the alertness of a range rover driver.

Filtering past a long queue of stationary traffic to turn right at a Tee junction I failed to notice the parked car in the line so when the traffic moved forward and I happened to be alongside the vehicle immediately behind the parked car...

The first I knew was seeing the front wheels turning and the vehicle start to pull out. Fortunately the driver saw me passing their A pillar and stopped, I wave hand in appology and proceed forward.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on December 02, 2014, 08:45:21 am
I often warn people about the ineffectiveness of rim brakes on early application in the wet.

Why the fuck don't I remember this when descending towards a roundabout behind a Range Rover which then slows rapidly for the car turning across it on the r/a? I saw the car approaching from the opposite direction and saw it indicating a right turn. I only managed to avoid rear ending the Range Rover by taking to the gap on it's near side.

IAAT (I Am A Twat).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Redlight on December 02, 2014, 12:00:11 pm
Whilst being sorry that she was hit by a car and left lying in the road for a lengthy period of time, can I nominate this cycling instructor for the complete lack of awareness of irony in her comments about yellow coats and hats

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/hit-cyclist-left-lying-in-the-road-for-90-minutes-hits-out-at-shambles-of-nhs-care-9896977.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/hit-cyclist-left-lying-in-the-road-for-90-minutes-hits-out-at-shambles-of-nhs-care-9896977.html)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on December 04, 2014, 07:04:01 pm
Feral cyclist who pavement-cycled through a crowd of pedestrians and then, finding his way through blocked, bunny-hopped into the road in front of my automotive appliance as I was exiting a small roundabout.  After the brakes I applied the horn.  His fuck-you expression was replaced for a nano-second by shocked surprise before relaxing into his stereotypical snarl and he departed, front wheel pointing skywards.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on December 05, 2014, 08:04:15 pm
Riding on an unlit, national speed limit, narrow, unlit road. 
No front light.
A dim flashing white light on the back!
The only reason I saw you was the reflective bands on your 'council worker' issue trousers.
I think I saw him again last night, but without the trousers. He was going to be completely invisible as soon as he left the village. And he must have much better eyesight than me to ride on that road with no front light.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on December 05, 2014, 10:10:36 pm
Ah, I think I spotted the guy he sold his trousers to.  Which is just as well, given the lack of lights on the BSO.  Though, like most Brummies, he was riding on the pavement and the chain was doing an admirable job as an audible warning.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 06, 2014, 08:50:53 pm
Yeah, but it's amazing how easily spotted a man with no trousers is!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SlowCoach on December 08, 2014, 01:25:11 pm
I think I've discovered why there's been a rash of bikes with either red light at front and back, or white light at front and back. These are mainly, but not always, to be found adorning pavement cycles. It appears that our local pound shop has taken delivery of a consignment of mis-packaged bike lights. Each packet either has 2 red lights, or 2 white lights. To kit your bike out properly - you have to spend £2... (and then pass a set on to your mate)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 08, 2014, 01:40:25 pm
Cunning marketing there from poundshop!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on December 08, 2014, 01:46:35 pm
I think I've discovered why there's been a rash of bikes with either red light at front and back, or white light at front and back. These are mainly, but not always, to be found adorning pavement cycles. It appears that our local pound shop has taken delivery of a consignment of mis-packaged bike lights. Each packet either has 2 red lights, or 2 white lights. To kit your bike out properly - you have to spend £2... (and then pass a set on to your mate)

Ah-ha!

Last year it was green front lights, because Tesco had bought in a load of cheap sets with dubious LEDs.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 08, 2014, 01:49:29 pm
You don't see many yellow/orange blinkies nowadays. Oh, the joy of mistaking an oncoming cyclist for a car's indicator!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Deano on December 08, 2014, 10:43:13 pm
I think I've discovered why there's been a rash of bikes with either red light at front and back, or white light at front and back. These are mainly, but not always, to be found adorning pavement cycles. It appears that our local pound shop has taken delivery of a consignment of mis-packaged bike lights. Each packet either has 2 red lights, or 2 white lights. To kit your bike out properly - you have to spend £2... (and then pass a set on to your mate)

You get a different class of DOTD up there. Round here, it's still the classic ninja with no lights, riding on the wrong side of the road. Yes, I do mean you, coming around the blind corner on Borough Road on the right hand side.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on December 09, 2014, 09:19:59 am
It doesn't matter what colour or how bright your rear light is if you attach it to the seat tube - not seat post - so low that it's underneath the rack.  ::-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on December 09, 2014, 12:04:16 pm
And even if you do attach it to the seat post, riding with a jumper tied round your waist tends to reduce its efficacy.

One wet winter evening I saw a woman doing this.  White jumper.  BSO.  No mudguards.  Oh.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on December 09, 2014, 12:12:31 pm
I saw an odd light situation the other day. Red light on the bike in front kept disappearing. I figured it was mounted oddly but I couldn't figure out how until I passed. She had both lights mounted on the front mudguard (so the rear light was only visible when the front wheel wobbled). It looked professionally done on a Dutch-style bike.

I suppose it was quite noticeable.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SlowCoach on December 09, 2014, 03:37:58 pm
She had both lights mounted on the front mudguard (so the rear light was only visible when the front wheel wobbled)

 ::-) At least, that way, you can tell if your rear light has failed simply by looking down. It certainly saves having to look at your reflection in all those shop windows as you pass, so you can check... This might actually be worth trying on my recumbent - I wobble so mush that I'kl invariably be showing something (on second thoughts - on the recumbent you probably wouldn't see anything from behind as it would be shielded by my fat arse). I like to run with 2 rear lights in case one of them fails and I don't notice (which has happened on a couple of occasions)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on December 09, 2014, 04:26:12 pm
I did wonder if somehow someone had bodged a rear mudguard (one of those SKS ones with the integrated light) onto the front. Without appearing like I was trying to look up her skirt (no ma'am, I'm merely inspecting your unusual lighting arrangement), I couldn't check too closely. Odd and I'm not sure sensible.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on December 09, 2014, 08:27:54 pm
Rear lights on front mudguards are a perfectly sensible thing to do ...on a tadpole trike.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on December 17, 2014, 10:05:08 am
Having attempted it myself, I have a certain amount of sympathy for the chap going from Wood Street to the Whipps Cross Road last night.  The first bit is uphill, it was the height of the rush hour and you were on single-speed.

This sympathy dwindled to zero, though, when I had cause to overtake you coming off the roundabout, because you were very nearly invisible.  Get a rear light, you twat.  The bloke I encountered later on Larrington Towers Road has one he doesn't need.

It's mounted on his handlebars :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on December 19, 2014, 06:35:55 pm
Bonus points to the numpty who sailed through the red coming up from Embankment onto the north end of Blackfriars Bridge into the segregated bike bit ahead of me (and several other cyclists coming off the bridge) and then stopped at the end because he needed to turn across traffic to Queen Victoria St. Cue a near pile-up. Harsh language may have been used.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Moultonaught on January 05, 2015, 10:09:18 am
to the Brompton rider who thought it sensible to overtake me as I was overtaking a *very* wide parked HGV.  As he tried to ride into the space I was happily and innocently occupying on my bike, I had to chuckle, at the 'give cyclists space' sign handing from his saddle!  :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 05, 2015, 10:36:09 am
Was it accompanied by a sticker saying "My other bike's a Range Rover"?
 :demon:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on January 06, 2015, 08:38:27 am
Me

Horrible misread of a road position resulting in heavy braking.

Approaching mini-roundabout (straight on and right) going first exit straight on and set up to pass another cyclist on approach / entry. Vehicle approaching from right, timing such that I would enter as he exited and his road position implied he was going left so timing was great, until...




He was actually U turning, my position wide to pas the cyclist meant I didn't see the right hand indicator. Cue heavy braking to avoid t-boning the car and head shakes from the other cyclist.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si_Co on February 15, 2015, 05:53:53 pm
Me?  :-\ Too fast into the lights?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB00nBKMLOo
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 16, 2015, 10:28:38 am
Me?  :-\ Too fast into the lights?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB00nBKMLOo

Um, no - they should have given way. I don't see that you did anything wrong there.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Otto on February 16, 2015, 10:32:47 am
Yup not your fault, they wouldn't have done that if you were in a car
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on February 16, 2015, 10:47:46 am
Si

You are perfectly entitled to do what you did, however if what you did was prudent ...

Unless you can see and be seen by the driver waiting to turn across you they are likely (unreasonably) to expect that the car in front of you will block the oncoming traffic as they did. Be glad you hit the gap and wonder what would happen to the motorcyclist in a similar situation.

To conclude. not your fault, but a mistake that you could anticipate and allow for. Seeing as we get hurt in an accident I ride on the basis of failing to anticipate a driver's error means I made a mistake.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si_Co on February 16, 2015, 11:15:29 am
Thanks, its the prudent bit..I knew there was a chance of right turning traffic, which is why I was stood up, in a mercatone uno top, to try and make myself visible. This actually compounded the situation since I touched the brakes as I hit the stop line, then hit the pothole which made the bike really light and caused the wheels to lock up so I had to get off the brakes and go for evasion instead of stop.

It was a foreseeable situation and I think I made a poor choice, and yes at the time I did think "bleeding glad I'm not on a motorbike"
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Riggers on February 16, 2015, 02:18:57 pm
Hhhhmmm, yes, nasty junction. It's one of those that give both road users the choice of approaching driver-to-driver or passenger-to-passenger, with no helpful road markings to define vehicle positioning. A "Shall I shan't I?", unless you are the first to gain priority, and then you can dictate what the other person should do.

Well done anyway.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jsabine on February 16, 2015, 04:47:27 pm
I'm kind of with matthew in terms of it not being your fault but nonetheless a situation that could be anticipated and allowed for.

The driver should have seen you, should have given way, and as far as I could tell doesn't even really have the excuse of "a car won't fit through there so I'm good to go" as there *is* room for a car, especially once the Audi in front of you had begun to clear your lane.

It's too easy for someone just to follow the car in front, with the twin reasoning of "they're going, so there's obviously not a car coming" and "if there is a car coming, it'll have to slow down for them anyway, so I'll be fine if I just follow them close" (a car driver can, of course, believe at least six contradictory things in the space it takes them to clear a junction), so someone cutting across your bows is all too predictable.

I'd probably have been doing much the same speed: I might have been easing off a bit as the brown estate crossed my lane, and I'd probably have been covering the brakes (without standing) as I entered the junction. But once the brown estate has gone (as 14s ticks into 15s), you've got a clear lane ahead of you and a good view of the driver's-side windscreen of the black  Focus. They didn't see (or didn't look) rather than not being able to see you.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Aunt Maud on February 16, 2015, 08:42:55 pm
Looks like they underestimated your speed somewhat, as they were starting their turn and were slightly across your lane as you went past the kerb.

Either that or they weren't looking properly.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: sg37409 on February 16, 2015, 09:07:32 pm
I think I'd have blamed myself for that. (as the cyclist)

I've done things like that, thankfully not so many now. I learned a big lesson from being hospitalized for months from a smidsy (where greater prudence would have prevented it)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on February 16, 2015, 10:07:41 pm
I think I'd have blamed myself for that. (as the cyclist)

I've done things like that, thankfully not so many now. I learned a big lesson from being hospitalized for months from a smidsy (where greater prudence would have prevented it)

I once 'hit the gap' when two vehicles entered a mini-roundabout from my left as I was going straight on at 15-20mph. The first should have waited for me, the second never looked, and the pedestrian on the corner was yelling "Oh S**t". Unlike Si I didn't take any evasive action as I didn't have time to react and just got very lucky.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: andyoxon on February 17, 2015, 12:09:12 am
Si

You are perfectly entitled to do what you did, however if what you did was prudent ...

Unless you can see and be seen by the driver waiting to turn across you they are likely (unreasonably) to expect that the car in front of you will block the oncoming traffic as they did. Be glad you hit the gap and wonder what would happen to the motorcyclist in a similar situation.

To conclude. not your fault, but a mistake that you could anticipate and allow for. Seeing as we get hurt in an accident I ride on the basis of failing to anticipate a driver's error means I made a mistake.

Yes, that = Defensive driving riding strategy; where everyone's potentially an idiot and so anticipation is key.   That car should have had the highway code ringing in their ears ' go if the way is clear, and take special care if turning', but busy intersections tend to suffer from 'SMIDSY', and so I try to ride so as to 'eyeball' and quite often have the font light flashing - which IMO gives me a bit more time to play with when proceeding straight through.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: sg37409 on February 17, 2015, 09:27:52 am
I think I'd have blamed myself for that. (as the cyclist)

I've done things like that, thankfully not so many now. I learned a big lesson from being hospitalized for months from a smidsy (where greater prudence would have prevented it)

Manged to get myself into a similar scenario this morn. :-(
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: IanN on February 26, 2015, 10:16:53 pm
I'd like to nominate the cyclist I encountered on the way home from work today. (Bristol, by the fountains)
I was cycling through a pedestrian crossing (on the road, on a green light, obviously  ;D)
The cyclist on the pavement looked at me and then slowly cycled across...


... in front of the double decker bus coming the other way

 :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Pingu on February 27, 2015, 11:27:24 am
Si

You are perfectly entitled to do what you did, however if what you did was prudent ...

Unless you can see and be seen by the driver waiting to turn across you they are likely (unreasonably) to expect that the car in front of you will block the oncoming traffic as they did. Be glad you hit the gap and wonder what would happen to the motorcyclist in a similar situation.

To conclude. not your fault, but a mistake that you could anticipate and allow for. Seeing as we get hurt in an accident I ride on the basis of failing to anticipate a driver's error means I made a mistake.

Yes, that = Defensive driving riding strategy; where everyone's potentially an idiot and so anticipation is key.   That car should have had the highway code ringing in their ears ' go if the way is clear, and take special care if turning', but busy intersections tend to suffer from 'SMIDSY', and so I try to ride so as to 'eyeball' and quite often have the font light flashing - which IMO gives me a bit more time to play with when proceeding straight through.

Cars have ears?  ???
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on February 27, 2015, 11:52:24 am
Si

You are perfectly entitled to do what you did, however if what you did was prudent ...

Unless you can see and be seen by the driver waiting to turn across you they are likely (unreasonably) to expect that the car in front of you will block the oncoming traffic as they did. Be glad you hit the gap and wonder what would happen to the motorcyclist in a similar situation.

To conclude. not your fault, but a mistake that you could anticipate and allow for. Seeing as we get hurt in an accident I ride on the basis of failing to anticipate a driver's error means I made a mistake.

Yes, that = Defensive driving riding strategy; where everyone's potentially an idiot and so anticipation is key.   That car should have had the highway code ringing in their ears ' go if the way is clear, and take special care if turning', but busy intersections tend to suffer from 'SMIDSY', and so I try to ride so as to 'eyeball' and quite often have the font light flashing - which IMO gives me a bit more time to play with when proceeding straight through.

Cars have ears?  ???
Why not?  Many of them have dicks.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 27, 2015, 03:54:38 pm
POTD in DOTD ^  :D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hellymedic on February 28, 2015, 12:48:17 am
Agreed!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: andyoxon on February 28, 2015, 06:25:18 pm
(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6224/6341923407_ffc0e05808.jpg)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on February 28, 2015, 11:53:56 pm
If walls have ears then that's Teethgrinder's sausage delivery van.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on March 01, 2015, 04:51:11 pm
I forgot, on Friday, 'pavement' cycling in extremis. I live on a steep hill, about 1-in-4, and the road turns into a lane which clambers up onto an even more steep flight of 98 steps (I walk up and down them everyday, so I know them all). So I'm walking back from the pool and I hear a sound like someone throwing bags of ball bearings into an industrial shredder behind me.

"I HAVEN'T GOT ANY FUCKIN' BRAKES!" yells the chav on a PoS Halfords-special full suspension mountain bike as he literally bounces past me down the steps like a rodeo rider on a recently gingered bull. Now these aren't gentle steps, probably twice the gradient of your average stairs. I've no idea how he managed to stay on until he hit the lane where he fell off, bounced and slid another twenty or so metres without a bike and then, as I thought bugger I'm going to have call an ambulance, got up and retrieved his bike and got back on and resumed his downward journey. OK, he's conquered the steps, but there's another 200-odd metres of 25% gradient hill. Before he hits T-junction. I did expect to see a mangled bike at the bottom of the road, but I guess somehow he survived. I don't think he'll be troubling old age.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on March 01, 2015, 05:03:12 pm
Salmon BMX riding the wrong way down the bus on the Euston Road  :o

Judging by his control as he then went through the queuing traffic there was a distinct lack of brakes on the bike as well.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on March 01, 2015, 05:06:18 pm
"I HAVEN'T GOT ANY FUCKIN' BRAKES!" yells the chav on a PoS Halfords-special full suspension mountain bike as he literally bounces past me down the steps like a rodeo rider on a recently gingered bull. Now these aren't gentle steps, probably twice the gradient of your average stairs. I've no idea how he managed to stay on until he hit the lane where he fell off, bounced and slid another twenty or so metres without a bike and then, as I thought bugger I'm going to have call an ambulance, got up and retrieved his bike and got back on and resumed his downward journey. OK, he's conquered the steps, but there's another 200-odd metres of 25% gradient hill. Before he hits T-junction. I did expect to see a mangled bike at the bottom of the road, but I guess somehow he survived. I don't think he'll be troubling old age.

Perhaps an urban version of http://road.cc/content/feature/12692-scrapheap-challenge is in the pipeline?   ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on March 01, 2015, 05:39:59 pm
"I HAVEN'T GOT ANY FUCKIN' BRAKES!" yells the chav on a PoS Halfords-special full suspension mountain bike as he literally bounces past me down the steps like a rodeo rider on a recently gingered bull. Now these aren't gentle steps, probably twice the gradient of your average stairs. I've no idea how he managed to stay on until he hit the lane where he fell off, bounced and slid another twenty or so metres without a bike and then, as I thought bugger I'm going to have call an ambulance, got up and retrieved his bike and got back on and resumed his downward journey. OK, he's conquered the steps, but there's another 200-odd metres of 25% gradient hill. Before he hits T-junction. I did expect to see a mangled bike at the bottom of the road, but I guess somehow he survived. I don't think he'll be troubling old age.

Perhaps an urban version of http://road.cc/content/feature/12692-scrapheap-challenge is in the pipeline?   ;D

He'd be a champion. I'm not sure if he planned the descent or not, it's a footpath and I suppose you might not know it's a big flight of steep steps. It's not easy to walk down, and to be honest, I think a tad technical even for a professional mountain biker.

I've really no idea how he managed to get up after that fall and just carry on, he sort of bounced and rolled down the lane and the bike was going top over tail without him (I'm not sure how the bike survived for that matter). He was 'lucky' as sometimes people park on the lane leaving just enough room for a slow moving pedestrian to squeeze by.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: resus1uk on March 01, 2015, 06:07:45 pm
D's of the day, three abreast wrong way along a narrow one-way street in a  Wold's market town.
Compounded by shouting at the oncoming cars going the correct way.
One wearing a well known jersey from the nearby city cycle club
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: HTFB on March 04, 2015, 10:35:26 pm
Today's is the owner of the very elegant Brian Rourke track bike I parked next to outside the Lewisham leisure centre. Lovely clean lines, top tube angling up near the seatpost, internal routing for the rear brake cable, but looking cleaner still with the brake removed, proper flip-flop hub ... turned to use the freewheel side. :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: davelodwig on March 19, 2015, 12:28:42 pm
Last night,

Bling carbon road bike... Check
Full Racing team kit and matching shoes... Check
Riding on the pavement at full pelt weaving in and out of pedestrians in the dark with no lights... pillock
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on March 20, 2015, 10:47:11 am
Lad on route to school, I am pleased to see you cycling but if you get to a set of give way lines and look right and see a cyclist riding up the cycle lane towards you, you have two choices:

1. Stop

2. Turn onto the pavement like most of the other lads* riding to school

You DO NOT proceed out into the cycle lane as I had a car on my rear quarter and nowhere to go from my cruising speed. Fortunately the driver had anticipated that I may have to come out of the cycle lane to pass you and had held back.





* before anyone jumps on me it's a boys school.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jacomus on March 20, 2015, 01:50:39 pm
Lights are a Good Thing on bicycles. Especially if they are quite bright.

Having 2, yes, 2 of the Fenix double-bulb front lights aimed at the eyes is just plain rude though. If you are getting flashed by oncoming vehicles, in the daytime, you're probably being an arse about your need to be seen. Still, I guess the frikkin' lazers might melt unsuspecting cars out of the way whilst you RLJ ::-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: JonJo on March 23, 2015, 06:39:39 pm
D's of the day, three abreast wrong way along a narrow one-way street in a  Wold's market town.
Compounded by shouting at the oncoming cars going the correct way.
One wearing a well known jersey from the nearby city cycle club

Beverley. Hull. Do I win £5?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Moultonaught on March 25, 2015, 01:24:05 pm
The bloke yesterday who decided to pull out of a side road to my right- across moving traffic in all 3 lanes. When I politely recommended he try looking  before manoeuvring; he just looked confused.

At the next set of lights he surprisingly stopped! Unfortunately it was to my right and I and all the other bikes to his left were going straight on. And he turns left across me and 2 other cyclists anyway. Muppet!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on April 13, 2015, 11:15:04 am
A number of competitors in the Paris-Roubaix

SNCF sues after TGV nearly hits riders (http://www.thelocal.fr/20150413/paris-roubaix-riders-have-near-miss-with-tgv)

However, it did occur to me that with the tech. stuff available, better provision couldn't have been made to avoid such a narrow window in which to stop the peloton.

The riders are fired-up competitors, the roads are closed to allow them to ride without normal constraints and then bingo, someone shoves a train front of them!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: T42 on April 13, 2015, 03:47:26 pm
Gent from another forum:
Quote
We followed a cyclist yesterday and as we approached him he did a sudden swerve out and around a drain and no, he did not look behind. Had I not somehow half expected it to happen or had my wits about me he would have been road kill and I would be typing this from within a locked cell.

Didn't feel like arguing. No point, anyway.

A number of competitors in the Paris-Roubaix

SNCF sues after TGV nearly hits riders (http://www.thelocal.fr/20150413/paris-roubaix-riders-have-near-miss-with-tgv)

However, it did occur to me that with the tech. stuff available, better provision couldn't have been made to avoid such a narrow window in which to stop the peloton.

The riders are fired-up competitors, the roads are closed to allow them to ride without normal constraints and then bingo, someone shoves a train front of them!

I'm rather surprised it was just a half-barrier crossing.  TGV lines are dedicated and the trains travel at several hundred kph, so it ought to be physically impossible to simply ride round a closed barrier, if only to save the taxpayer hamburger-removal and panel-beating costs.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: simonp on April 13, 2015, 03:55:14 pm
TGVs also run on lower-speed lines where level crossings are permitted. LGVs (Lignes a Grande Vitesse) do not have level crossings.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: T42 on April 13, 2015, 09:35:25 pm
^^^Point.  Of course in Alsace we wouldn't know, we've just been building the things here since the 1970s but the LGV to Strasbourg isn't finished yet.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Zipperhead on April 14, 2015, 09:52:53 am
Commuting through London every day it's difficult to single out a single DOTD as the Dickhead per Mile quotient greatly exceeds unity.

So as they were all at the same place at pretty much the same time I would like to nominate 5 together (there will no doubt be others on the way home)

Heading East along Grosvenor Road, when I got to the junction at Vauxhall Bridge the left hand lane was blocked by a large truck, the sort that's generally carrying aggregate (I don't know if it was full or empty). But that was ok, because the bike lane isn't a bike lane at that point and he was stopped behind the ASL and his left hand indicator was flashing. He was also within about 18 inches of the curb, again not a problem.

Ahead I could see some cyclists, and I could also see traffic coming from the left which meant that the lights were going to go green for us fairly soon (it's a big four way junction with each road going in turn).

Now I wouldn't have gone up the left hand side anyway because in the real world even if I had been on the Lance Armstrong Pharmacology Diet it would make no difference - the truck would be out of the way pretty soon. So I stopped behind.

In quick succesion along came 3 cyclists and squeezed up the inside and as the last one got clear the lights changed and the truck started to move.

Along comes cyclist number 4 and puts on a spurt to out accelerate the truck and get up the inside. Now modern materials and clothing are good but if he thinks that a few kilos of carbon fibre and polystyrene are going to win in a fight with all that steel then he needs to watch the physics channel instead of the Disney channel. he made it though.

By this point the truck is moving and is at an angle to the curb, getting closer by the second. Along comes cyclist number 5 and tries to go up the inside.

The truck driver was on the ball and hit his horn and stopped, and the cyclist managed to stop, but leaning sideways onto the curb to avoid the back wheels.

If any of those people had been killed/injured in that situation through their own stupidity then the cries would have gone up "something must be done to protect us from these dangerous trucks"
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on April 14, 2015, 10:18:57 am
Given tales like this I wonder why trucking companies aren't sticking cameras all over their trucks.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on April 14, 2015, 11:54:17 am
Cameras cost Money and running over a bicycle isn't going to do much damage to a four-axle tipper.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on April 14, 2015, 11:59:39 am
Generally though we don't seek to punish stupidity with the death penalty. We don't remove safety guards from machines on account that people ought to have more sense than to stick their hand in there. I too despair often at some of the maneuvers cyclists make but then, we know from recent cases, the lorries have simply driven over cyclists right in front of them, and I'm sure we've all had the sensation of being only a few centimetres from an overtaking truck.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Vince on April 27, 2015, 10:47:49 am
Me.

Being a little late for my train from Liverpool Street, I rode through every red light along Victoria Embankment yesterday afternoon.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on April 27, 2015, 10:55:22 am
Legal in Nevada, I'm told. Or perhaps it was Colorado. Not London, though!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Vince on April 27, 2015, 12:45:20 pm
Funny you should say that, but none of the groups of police people loitering at each junction made any comment. I think they were watching the funfucked runners walking in the opposite direction ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jenhunt on April 28, 2015, 02:08:56 pm
last night on the commute home
travelling at 16mph (headwind, couldn't be ar... bothered) got overtaken on a blind bend by a rather large HGV. He was so close to me that according to strava my speed picked up to 23mph as I was sucked into his draft.
I then had to brake sharply as the twunt turned right into their yard less than 100yards later.  :-X :-X :demon:

also on last night's commute the muppet who couldn't possibly have lifted his foot even 1mm off his accelerator to allow the oncoming car to pass before he over took me, meaning that I was at risk of elbowing his windscreen.... Grrr!

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: madcow on April 28, 2015, 02:24:50 pm
Do what I did once and follow the vehicle into the yard and ask to speak to the driver or failing that the transport manager (who should listen to any concerns about driving standards ).
 Politely point out that you considered his overtaking to be a danger to your health and safety and that the extra minute on his travel time would have been nothing compared to the hours that he would have spent with the police should he have made contact with you.
Don't rant or ask for him to be sacked , just let them know how vulnerable you are when on a bike.
In my case the driver apologised and we shook hands. Some drivers spend so long in their own cab that they forget what it is  like  on the outside.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jenhunt on April 28, 2015, 03:26:17 pm
good plan - might try that next time!
as it is we deal with them fairly regularly at work, so I've asked my transport planner to have a word with them when he's on the phone next :)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on May 06, 2015, 02:02:48 pm
Your chances of reaching a ripe old age, m'laddo, will be greatly improved if you do not use the parked vehicles in the Surrounding Spaces of Mr Sainsbury's House of Toothy Comestibles as slalom markers.  You and your BSO came very close to becoming a bonnet mascot on my motor-car.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on May 19, 2015, 09:40:44 am
Peniscranium yoof (17-ish) yesterday afternoon. Crossed the road ahead of me, or, rather, got 3/4 of the way, dropped his skateboard and started scooting it along the road. Right in front of the big ugly cyclist doing 20+ mph. He nearly shat himself when I whizzed past shouting "GERRAHTAROADYERKNOB"
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jacomus on May 20, 2015, 09:41:21 am
Hero onna Cervelo P5 TT bike scorched past me, flicked the bike down the nearside of the WVM in front of me and couldn't anchor up quick enough to prevent himself T-boning a 26t scaffolding lorry who was slowly turning left whilst indicating.

Sed rider totally lost his shit after standing up, kicking the lorry and generally screaming unintelligibly and trying to provoke a fight with the 3 guys who got out of the lorry.

I didn't stick around to see how it turned out, but I don't rate the hero's chances much if it did come to blows.

Strange bike to be commuting on, but I'm pretty sure that even such a speed machine as the P5 can be ridden sensibly in heavy traffic. Or, if you must ride like an asshat, at least accept the consequences. Hopefully the guy doesn't drive like he rides.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on May 20, 2015, 10:02:53 am
Hmmmm, yes. Scaffolders do tend to be on the muscley side of things.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on May 20, 2015, 11:01:16 am
Hmmmm, yes. Scaffolders do tend to be on the muscley side of things.

One of my fellow zeks was a scaffolder in Civvy Street.  Although a shortarse with ridiculously small feet, he was an impressively muscular shortarsed cokehead with ridiculously small feet so I took care not to spill his tea.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on May 26, 2015, 07:28:41 am
A very special award goes to

http://road.cc/content/news/152498-video-manchester-cyclist-rides-through-red-light-and-side-bus
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jaded on May 26, 2015, 07:41:28 am
A very special award goes to

http://road.cc/content/news/152498-video-manchester-cyclist-rides-through-red-light-and-side-bus

If you read the comments you find out that he says hid brake cable snapped and he didn't have enough time to skid stop.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Hot Flatus on May 26, 2015, 08:44:22 am
Still shit riding though. Only a fool would ride through a  green light without looking left for rlj-ing traffic.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on May 26, 2015, 09:22:07 am
A very special award goes to

http://road.cc/content/news/152498-video-manchester-cyclist-rides-through-red-light-and-side-bus

If you read the comments you find out that he says hid brake cable snapped and he didn't have enough time to skid stop.

It's 4 seconds from when the lights turn red until he crosses the stop line. Glad he isn't hurt, but he doesn't have anyone or anything else to blame, sorry.

The second vid where the cyclist is an enthusiastic starter, it was clear the lorry was RLJ-ing, a normal, less enthusiastic start as all other riders did would have been less....exciting.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jacomus on May 26, 2015, 09:56:59 am
A very special award goes to

http://road.cc/content/news/152498-video-manchester-cyclist-rides-through-red-light-and-side-bus

If you read the comments you find out that he says hid brake cable snapped and he didn't have enough time to skid stop.

It's 4 seconds from when the lights turn red until he crosses the stop line. Glad he isn't hurt, but he doesn't have anyone or anything else to blame, sorry.

The second vid where the cyclist is an enthusiastic starter, it was clear the lorry was RLJ-ing, a normal, less enthusiastic start as all other riders did would have been less....exciting.

Or if the second cyclist had been covering the brakes - his hands were palm forward holding the curve of the bars, you can see his right hand let go and reposition for the front brake lever.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on May 29, 2015, 02:37:45 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o3B601Ndsg

Oh dear.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Feanor on May 31, 2015, 07:42:02 pm
Me..

I was cleaning my bike after yesterday's damp-ish 200, and noticed the seat-pack was missing.
I'd just done a 200k into the remote wilds without any spare tube or anything.

The reason was that the last ride that bike had done was a wet 400, where I had swapped out the seat-pack for a bigger bag.
I'd removed the bigger bag when cleaning it up after the wet 400, but never replaced the seat-pack.

Idiot Boy.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Reg.T on May 31, 2015, 08:10:25 pm
At least you picked the perfect time to discover the omission  ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 01, 2015, 08:30:09 am
I think we have a winner:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/13059984.Cyclist_smashes_into_learner_driver_s_parked_car___watch_the_York_man_s_video_that_s_taking_the_internet_by_storm_____/ (http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/13059984.Cyclist_smashes_into_learner_driver_s_parked_car___watch_the_York_man_s_video_that_s_taking_the_internet_by_storm_____/)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jaded on June 01, 2015, 08:35:12 am
I think we have a winner:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/13059984.Cyclist_smashes_into_learner_driver_s_parked_car___watch_the_York_man_s_video_that_s_taking_the_internet_by_storm_____/ (http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/13059984.Cyclist_smashes_into_learner_driver_s_parked_car___watch_the_York_man_s_video_that_s_taking_the_internet_by_storm_____/)


Bzzzt. Repetition!!  ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on June 01, 2015, 11:43:52 am
I think we have a winner:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/13059984.Cyclist_smashes_into_learner_driver_s_parked_car___watch_the_York_man_s_video_that_s_taking_the_internet_by_storm_____/ (http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/13059984.Cyclist_smashes_into_learner_driver_s_parked_car___watch_the_York_man_s_video_that_s_taking_the_internet_by_storm_____/)

Good to see he was almost unhurt but not long ago in York outside Terry's (as was) a female cyclist hit a parked car and died.  There was also a tragedy when a time-trialler hit a caravan stopped on the A63 near Hull.  He'd been cycling head down 'in an aerodynamic position'.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: pumpkin on June 01, 2015, 11:52:28 am
Seem to remember an audax or sportive a couple of years ago where a cyclist had gone 50m and was so engrossed in his Garmin that he hit a car and had to quit. The trick is to look ahead but most of us have managed that (I hope). As a ski-ing instructor once told me, looking down at your feet won't make you ski any better. So with cycling, looking ahead is going to pay dividends
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si_Co on June 01, 2015, 12:03:04 pm
I think we have a winner:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/13059984.Cyclist_smashes_into_learner_driver_s_parked_car___watch_the_York_man_s_video_that_s_taking_the_internet_by_storm_____/ (http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/13059984.Cyclist_smashes_into_learner_driver_s_parked_car___watch_the_York_man_s_video_that_s_taking_the_internet_by_storm_____/)

Nobody here would be so stupid as to do such a thing and end up with a fractured skull would they? Not to a car that's parked in the same place every day on the road they live on, would they? Oh,no sirree....

<wanders away whistling>
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tonyh on June 01, 2015, 12:38:54 pm
...engrossed in his Garmin....

I'm making this post to remind myself that anything longer than a brief glance is Too Long. Scared.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on June 01, 2015, 01:17:18 pm
Seem to remember an audax or sportive a couple of years ago where a cyclist had gone 50m and was so engrossed in his Garmin that he hit a car and had to quit. The trick is to look ahead but most of us have managed that (I hope). As a ski-ing instructor once told me, looking down at your feet won't make you ski any better. So with cycling, looking ahead is going to pay dividends

On the last LEL a chap of FOREIGN disposition forgot which side of the road he was supposed to be riding on when leaving a control, discovering the error of his ways courtesy of an oncoming Corsa.  The driver of which being not entirely blameless due to his not having switched on his lights in spite of it being midnight.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Basil on June 01, 2015, 01:41:22 pm
I think we have a winner:
http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/13059984.Cyclist_smashes_into_learner_driver_s_parked_car___watch_the_York_man_s_video_that_s_taking_the_internet_by_storm_____/ (http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/13059984.Cyclist_smashes_into_learner_driver_s_parked_car___watch_the_York_man_s_video_that_s_taking_the_internet_by_storm_____/)

Nobody here would be so stupid as to do such a thing and end up with a fractured skull would they? Not to a car that's parked in the same place every day on the road they live on, would they? Oh,no sirree....

<wanders away whistling>

I believe that #2 son is the only one in my immediate family not to have done this.
Or maybe he's the only one not to have fessed up.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 01, 2015, 02:06:38 pm
Well not in broad daylight - I rode into the back of a parked van, in pitch dark, heavy fog. Van was parked on double-yellow lines (which I knew were there and hence was not expecting a parked vehicle). I was going very slowly though, on account of the conditions.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on June 01, 2015, 05:24:46 pm
I'm feeling left out.  I don't think I've ever ridden into a stationary vehicle.   ???

This is probably my fault for doing too many miles on cycles that let me see where I'm going without contortion.


Van was parked on double-yellow lines (which I knew were there and hence was not expecting a parked vehicle).

Bit of a rookie mistake, that...  :)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on June 01, 2015, 05:27:10 pm
For my part, I HAVE ridden into a stationery vehicle, but that was only because my handlebars stopped being handlebars rather unexpectedly. It was sufficient of an experience that I have no need to repeat the same.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on June 01, 2015, 05:35:19 pm
For my part, I HAVE ridden into a stationery vehicle, but that was only because my handlebars stopped being handlebars rather unexpectedly. It was sufficient of an experience that I have no need to repeat the same.
Would that have been a Staples van ?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on June 01, 2015, 05:35:59 pm
Oh dear. Rather dazing experience, y'see.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: benborp on June 01, 2015, 10:00:51 pm
I once took the option of parked Transit over wheels of overtaking tipper. Broken collar bone (diagnosed twelve years later).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jaded on June 01, 2015, 10:27:52 pm
Never ridden into a stationary vehicle, but have slid under the wheels of one at a junction.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on June 02, 2015, 06:35:54 am
Having learned to ride on bikes with steel wheels and rim brakes I acquired a permanent fear of oncoming stationary vehicles. It has never really left me.   
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Basil on June 02, 2015, 07:16:09 am
Having learned to ride on bikes with steel wheels and rim brakes I acquired a permanent fear of oncoming stationary vehicles. It has never really left me.

That's interesting.  I wonder if those of us that grew up with braking systems that didn't really work in dry conditions and were merely for decoration in the wet developed a more pragmatic style of riding, as opposed to those who grew up in the world of V and disk brakes? 
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on June 02, 2015, 07:25:22 am
Having learned to ride on bikes with steel wheels and rim brakes I acquired a permanent fear of oncoming stationary vehicles. It has never really left me.

That's interesting.  I wonder if those of us that grew up with braking systems that didn't really work in dry conditions and were merely for decoration in the wet developed a more pragmatic style of riding, as opposed to those who grew up in the world of V and disk brakes?

It's quite possible that that, combined with a basic knowledge of physics is what makes me so shit at descending. More like, I just get scared, tbh.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 02, 2015, 08:25:40 am
Van was parked on double-yellow lines (which I knew were there and hence was not expecting a parked vehicle).

Bit of a rookie mistake, that...  :)
In me defence I plead that I'd ridden that route 5 days a week for over a year. Only a complete idiot would park there, as it is a busy (narrow) road through an industrial estate with very intolerant lorry drivers.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: pumpkin on June 02, 2015, 10:19:21 am
http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/news/13217611.Extreme_road_rage_driver_identified_as_master_butcher_and_owner_of_upmarket_cafes/

Some of you may have posted this already. Cyclist did himself no favours getting into the tirade imo
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on June 02, 2015, 10:40:29 am
http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/news/13217611.Extreme_road_rage_driver_identified_as_master_butcher_and_owner_of_upmarket_cafes/

Some of you may have posted this already. Cyclist did himself no favours getting into the tirade imo

The two were just as bad as each other, and were the transport modes swapped the outcome would likely have been identical.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jakob W on June 02, 2015, 10:45:18 am
No, I don't think they were; while it's better to be Zen about these things the adrenaline jolt of being driven at by two tons of steel is pretty powerful, and the swearing is IMO not unreasonable. The threats of violence are all coming from the driver.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on June 02, 2015, 10:49:08 am
That's how we see it.

My point is that arseholes like that driver don't come out of nowhere, and they aren't actually murderous madmen. That cyclist - whilst we are certain is more in the right - imo exhibited an equally uncontrolled disproportionate reaction (and neither actually went for the other, despite the intense goading by the cyclist). The two are not so different.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: pumpkin on June 02, 2015, 10:50:05 am
No, I don't think they were; while it's better to be Zen about these things the adrenaline jolt of being driven at by two tons of steel is pretty powerful, and the swearing is IMO not unreasonable. The threats of violence are all coming from the driver.
That's the norm. But both parties were egging each on albeit one more violently. Anyway the motorist is receiving some attention on fb and apparently has a naked pic on Twitter!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Katie on June 02, 2015, 10:54:35 am
Toss-up between the driver who stopped suddenly on the A6, no signals, in the pouring rain, and the driver immediately behind the first (and immediately in front of me) who pulled out to avoid first driver, and then stopped without signalling so they could yell at the first driver for stopping without signalling. And then yelled at me because I nearly rear-ended them. (Keyword: *nearly* - I even managed to stay on the correct side of the road, somehow.)

Driver behind me
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jacomus on June 02, 2015, 11:03:10 am
http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/news/13217611.Extreme_road_rage_driver_identified_as_master_butcher_and_owner_of_upmarket_cafes/

Some of you may have posted this already. Cyclist did himself no favours getting into the tirade imo

Cyclist didn't shower himself in glory, but it was the driver who lost his shit at the first 'oh come on' exasperated words from the cyclist, then tried to ram the cyclist, stopped and hopped out full of road rage.

The driver isn't competent enough to hold a licence, IMO, needs banning and re-testing.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on June 02, 2015, 11:09:25 am
No, I don't think they were; while it's better to be Zen about these things the adrenaline jolt of being driven at by two tons of steel is pretty powerful, and the swearing is IMO not unreasonable. The threats of violence are all coming from the driver.

Just for the hell of it, I went back and looked again. As ever interpreting vids is a mystic art of divination but still.

It looks as if the initial "infringement" was the $x$ (look what happens when you use the shift-4 ;) ) pulling in slightly after overtaking, holding speed with the other cyclists, personally I've had a lot worse and more brown trouser close passes. Still not good, but no worse than a "7" on a 1-10 of London close passing.

It also looks as if the driver was inwardly fuming and looking for trouble because he reacted to the cyclist's shout - had the window open to shout at cyclists? who knows. That demonstrates in my view he deserves anything the old bill could have thrown at him, but looking more at the interaction.

Cyclist goes right into overdrive, calling the driver names with.... enthusiasm. At this stage, the driver hasn't actually combusted. So much enthusiasm though that he is spitting at the driver at 0:48. Unsurprisingly it goes downhill from there.

I wouldn't call the cyclist any names, because he was in the right, but I'm fairly certain in my mind that he's the same kind of human as that knob of a driver.


The driver isn't competent enough to hold a licence, IMO, needs banning and re-testing.

Really wish this could happen
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 02, 2015, 11:17:44 am
The cyclist calls the driver names but it is the driver who is making violent threats.

"Sticks and stones" etc.

There is absolutely no justification for threatening to smash someone's teeth in because they called you a 'fucking idiot'.

I'm no angel and in the last 8 months have twice ended up exchanging sweary rants at a driver. If someone physically assaulted me, I'd hit back.

But. The Driver was the only one threatening to assault the cyclist.

He also seems to think that his car being thumped would be something the police would be interested in. that the police would arrest someone for hitting a car with their hand, but wouldn't arrest someone for assault. What A Moron.

[Edit]
I've just watched the initial vid. The driver is utterly at fault, there is very little the cyclist could have done to avoid contacting his car - the driver pulled in on him. In that case I think I would have lost my rag even faster and sooner than the cyclist.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on June 02, 2015, 11:29:30 am
The cyclist calls the driver names but it is the driver who is making violent threats.

"Sticks and stones" etc.

There is absolutely no justification for threatening to smash someone's teeth in because they called you a 'fucking idiot'.

I'm no angel and in the last 8 months have twice ended up exchanging sweary rants at a driver. If someone physically assaulted me, I'd hit back.

But. The Driver was the only one threatening to assault the cyclist.

He also seems to think that his car being thumped would be something the police would be interested in. that the police would arrest someone for hitting a car with their hand, but wouldn't arrest someone for assault. What A Moron.

[Edit]
I've just watched the initial vid. The driver is utterly at fault, there is very little the cyclist could have done to avoid contacting his car - the driver pulled in on him. In that case I think I would have lost my rag even faster and sooner than the cyclist.

But he didn't contact the car.... he just shouted "hey, come on" from where it all kicked off.

And yes, the driver is at fault, and no I am not defending the driver in the slightest, and yes if you and up exchanging sweary rants with drivers, maybe you have  a bit of the same type of character makeup. I'd like to think you were better able to manage it than either of those, though.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jaded on June 02, 2015, 11:38:01 am
The driver drove deliberately close to the cyclist and already had his nearside window open.

Everything else stems from those two actions.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 02, 2015, 11:39:00 am
I think he probably put a hand up against the car - he was nearly pushed into the kerb, it would have been difficult not to do so.

There is a bit on roadcc about this that seems to indicate police have had a word and possibly cautioned him.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: davelodwig on June 02, 2015, 11:40:27 am
I must admit I get a bit Sweary after the really close calls, despite usually keeping the lid on things, and I've always marked it down to the adrenaline that's just crashed into my system in fairly short order. Especially in those oh crap this is it moments.

The problem is when that rocks up against someone who is generally an angry person and in control of a motor vehicle, who's subconscious is just looking for a reason to have a pop, I mean it's really difficult to in the moment realise they've had a really bad day at work, dogs run off, wife's moved out, whatever in the moment that your thinking I'm brown bread and accidentally let fly with something that would make an anglo saxon blush.

The only time I've been in a fight in the road is when the chap jumped out the car and was pulling his sleeves up and balling fists and a whole school experience of having the shit kicked out of me by bullies came rushing back and I got in first and hard. Honestly the chap didn't know what do do he just stood there (well lent against his car) and looked like his perception of the world had been ruined. I picked my bike up and walked off to find a coffee and sort of just left him there.

I just wish people would look where they are going.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jacomus on June 02, 2015, 11:41:55 am
No, I don't think they were; while it's better to be Zen about these things the adrenaline jolt of being driven at by two tons of steel is pretty powerful, and the swearing is IMO not unreasonable. The threats of violence are all coming from the driver.

Just for the hell of it, I went back and looked again. As ever interpreting vids is a mystic art of divination but still.

It looks as if the initial "infringement" was the $x$ (look what happens when you use the shift-4 ;) ) pulling in slightly after overtaking, holding speed with the other cyclists, personally I've had a lot worse and more brown trouser close passes. Still not good, but no worse than a "7" on a 1-10 of London close passing.

It also looks as if the driver was inwardly fuming and looking for trouble because he reacted to the cyclist's shout - had the window open to shout at cyclists? who knows. That demonstrates in my view he deserves anything the old bill could have thrown at him, but looking more at the interaction.

Cyclist goes right into overdrive, calling the driver names with.... enthusiasm. At this stage, the driver hasn't actually combusted. So much enthusiasm though that he is spitting at the driver at 0:48. Unsurprisingly it goes downhill from there.

I wouldn't call the cyclist any names, because he was in the right, but I'm fairly certain in my mind that he's the same kind of human as that knob of a driver.


The driver isn't competent enough to hold a licence, IMO, needs banning and re-testing.

Really wish this could happen

Come the revolution, motoring incidents will be dealt with by immediate suspension of licence and a re-test, unless the driver can prove they weren't at fault.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on June 02, 2015, 01:55:42 pm
In other news: cyclist decides to pass anti-rat-run barrier on opposite side of road before oncoming Jag gets too close.  Cyclist discovers dropped kerb is nowhere near as dropped as was initially suspected.  Cyclist performs Cirque du Soleil-stylee acrobatics in his attempt to stay out of the way of any marauding South American big cats.

I'm sure that kerb was lower the last time I went that way ???
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on June 02, 2015, 04:59:00 pm
 ;D

Also:

Quote
Mr Wells, who trained as a master butcher, said earlier today: “I would like to apologise for any offence caused. My behaviour was unacceptable and regardless of the situation, I shouldn’t react like that.

“I fully appreciate that cyclists have as much right to the road as any other road users.”

Being pedantic, cyclists actually have more right than landroverdiscoverydrivers.  But wotvhek.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hellymedic on June 02, 2015, 08:00:58 pm
No, I don't think they were; while it's better to be Zen about these things the adrenaline jolt of being driven at by two tons of steel is pretty powerful, and the swearing is IMO not unreasonable. The threats of violence are all coming from the driver.
That's the norm. But both parties were egging each on albeit one more violently. Anyway the motorist is receiving some attention on fb and apparently has a naked pic on Twitter!

Indeed. The dick of the day appears minuscule.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 03, 2015, 08:16:56 am
I don't dare watch it, as it will make my blood boil.

He's a cycling friendly chap though, as he runs workshops from one of his "up market" establishments.

http://brew-cafe.com/unchained-at-brew/
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: pumpkin on June 03, 2015, 09:19:38 am
Unfortunately for him what people will see is not a motorist who has been wronged (he wasn't) but a violent, aggressive man using profanities against a cyclist. Granted the cyclist matches him in terms of swearing but if the motorists friends/family/staff see that video they'll see a man threatening assault and then going on an almost Basil Fawlty rant about cycle lanes etc.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on June 03, 2015, 09:26:40 am
That would have been me last night.

Down hill approach to a roundabout, exits at 9 and 2 o'clock. I timed my entrance better than the cyclist in front which resulted in passing them on entry as we were both turning right. The problem was the motorist who entered from our left (also turning right), he had seen and judged the speed of the other cyclist well, however not mine and realised he was staring out his drivers window at me to work out what he was doing.

My problem was I was committed to my line. fortunately he slowed up enough to let me past him and exit the roundabout.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: origamist on June 03, 2015, 12:02:58 pm
I think he probably put a hand up against the car - he was nearly pushed into the kerb, it would have been difficult not to do so.

There is a bit on roadcc about this that seems to indicate police have had a word and possibly cautioned him.

The wing mirror makes contact with the cyclist (it gets bent in) - whether this was a result of the cyclists hitting it with his hand or being struck by the vehicle, you can't make out from the video. However, as the driver makes no mention of his vehicle being hit, I'd favour the latter explanation.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Aunt Maud on June 03, 2015, 12:23:49 pm
It looks like he's now under "trial by social media".

I bet it's not doing him any good.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on June 03, 2015, 12:41:31 pm
I think he probably put a hand up against the car - he was nearly pushed into the kerb, it would have been difficult not to do so.

There is a bit on roadcc about this that seems to indicate police have had a word and possibly cautioned him.

The wing mirror makes contact with the cyclist (it gets bent in) - whether this was a result of the cyclists hitting it with his hand or being struck by the vehicle, you can't make out from the video. However, as the driver makes no mention of his vehicle being hit, I'd favour the latter explanation.

We all like to be youtube vid detectives, but I think you are reading too much into that, the distortion is as a result of the wide angle, there is no wobble, no sound of impact and the mirror adjustment remains good (you can see the driver), I'd say no contact.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: origamist on June 03, 2015, 12:57:17 pm
I think he probably put a hand up against the car - he was nearly pushed into the kerb, it would have been difficult not to do so.

There is a bit on roadcc about this that seems to indicate police have had a word and possibly cautioned him.

The wing mirror makes contact with the cyclist (it gets bent in) - whether this was a result of the cyclists hitting it with his hand or being struck by the vehicle, you can't make out from the video. However, as the driver makes no mention of his vehicle being hit, I'd favour the latter explanation.

We all like to be youtube vid detectives, but I think you are reading too much into that, the distortion is as a result of the wide angle, there is no wobble, no sound of impact and the mirror adjustment remains good (you can see the driver), I'd say no contact.

Watch the original video at 2mins 15secs! Actually, the driver does accuse the cyclist of hitting his car and then adjusts his wing mirror with a push. Contact seems far more likely than not...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jakob W on June 03, 2015, 01:12:44 pm
Road.cc had a comment from the cyclist on their story saying that he had been hit by the wing mirror.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: origamist on June 03, 2015, 01:30:49 pm
Road.cc had a comment from the cyclist on their story saying that he had been hit by the wing mirror.

Thanks.

Cyclist claims he was hit by wing mirror and driver accuses cyclist of hitting his car. At least they both agree there was contact...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: clarion on June 03, 2015, 01:38:48 pm
I think he probably put a hand up against the car - he was nearly pushed into the kerb, it would have been difficult not to do so.

There is a bit on roadcc about this that seems to indicate police have had a word and possibly cautioned him.

The wing mirror makes contact with the cyclist (it gets bent in) - whether this was a result of the cyclists hitting it with his hand or being struck by the vehicle, you can't make out from the video. However, as the driver makes no mention of his vehicle being hit, I'd favour the latter explanation.

We all like to be youtube vid detectives, but I think you are reading too much into that, the distortion is as a result of the wide angle, there is no wobble, no sound of impact and the mirror adjustment remains good (you can see the driver), I'd say no contact.

Watch the original video at 2mins 15secs! Actually, the driver does accuse the cyclist of hitting his car and then adjusts his wing mirror with a push. Contact seems far more likely than not...
That's certainly how I saw it, and I'm not going to watch the video again.

The cyclist could maybe have handled the situation better by staying calm, but he was, not unreasonably, scared of someone who thought nothing of trying to hit someone with a large vehicle getting out and approaching aggressively.  Adrenaline levels must have been sky high, and the cyclist's comments start defensively, with 'Stay away!' or similar.  I wish I could say I would handle it better, but I know that my voice gets quite squeaky with adrenaline, so, although I am not at all an aggressive person, I can't really say that I would.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: cygnet on June 03, 2015, 10:43:59 pm
The knob who loudly and aggressively berated another cyclo-commuter for 'impeding his progress' down the nearside of a coach on a road resticted to narrow two-way traffic due to road works. The beratee took it surprisingly calmly - simply responding that he 'didn't want to end up dead'.

A couple of seconds later as the coach moved off we both passed him stuck against the kerb due to the non-materialising of the gap he'd cocksurely assumed would open. He didn't even have the decency to apologise to the chap he'd just laid in to.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: pumpkin on June 06, 2015, 08:40:28 pm
Going home last night and behind a car with the sign 'Great grandchildren on board' displayed in the back window. One of them may have been the child sat on the knee of the passenger in the front :o What could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jaded on June 06, 2015, 09:09:35 pm
Cut in half by the seat belt.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on June 13, 2015, 01:36:22 am
I remember witnessing a police officer I was working next to admonish a wankpanzer driver for where he had his small child: standing between his thighs and holding onto the steering wheel. FReply from driver? "What's it got to do with you?"

A full and frank* explanation of what it had to do with the copper then followed.

* and rather prolonged...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Redlight on June 14, 2015, 08:47:07 pm
I remember once on the commute encountering a woman with a baby of about three or four months on her lap while driving. And she didn't have a seat belt on.  I was tempted to say something but I didn't want to interrupt her phone call.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: pumpkin on June 14, 2015, 09:53:15 pm
At least they live down to our expectations.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on June 15, 2015, 09:33:06 am
I remember witnessing a police officer I was working next to admonish a wankpanzer driver for where he had his small child: standing between his thighs and holding onto the steering wheel. FReply from driver? "What's it got to do with you?"

A full and frank* explanation of what it had to do with the copper then followed.

* and rather prolonged...

Saw a chap sullenly pulling out the child-seat from the boot of his oversized people pram the other week, as his wife and little kid stood around on the pavement. Given the police car parked behind and the large officer of the law standing by, I presume it wasn't a voluntary rush of reason on the driver's part. I'm sure somehow that if there was an accident it would be the car's fault.

I remember a few years back my wife remonstrating with the driver of a Landrover who was letting his son 'drive' down a track by Ladybower Reservoir. You know what happens when the airbag deploys that close to your child's face? He apparently didn't know and didn't care. I don't have kids, but I can only assume they're easily replaceable if you break one.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: HTFB on June 15, 2015, 11:09:57 am
When I were a wean our parents used to think nowt of cramming us five to t'back seat, wi't'babbies in t'footwell and twa more of t'likely lads rattling around in t'boot. No air con in them days, so t'windows used to steam up a treat in t'winter. Come summer t'black plastic babby-seats left in t'sun would melt onto your skin soon as touch it. Seatbelts? We used to dream of seatbelts.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on June 15, 2015, 11:37:24 am
I remember witnessing a police officer I was working next to admonish a wankpanzer driver for where he had his small child: standing between his thighs and holding onto the steering wheel. FReply from driver? "What's it got to do with you?"

A full and frank* explanation of what it had to do with the copper then followed.

* and rather prolonged...

Saw a chap sullenly pulling out the child-seat from the boot of his oversized people pram the other week, as his wife and little kid stood around on the pavement. Given the police car parked behind and the large officer of the law standing by, I presume it wasn't a voluntary rush of reason on the driver's part. I'm sure somehow that if there was an accident it would be the car's fault.

I remember a few years back my wife remonstrating with the driver of a Landrover who was letting his son 'drive' down a track by Ladybower Reservoir. You know what happens when the airbag deploys that close to your child's face? He apparently didn't know and didn't care. I don't have kids, but I can only assume they're easily replaceable if you break one.
My first 'drive' was sitting on my dad's lap at the wheel of a Series II Landrover crossing a field. Slightly different days !
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on June 15, 2015, 12:20:29 pm
A couple of days ago about twenty of us had to cram into a old Toyota minibus that might have held about nine plus one in the front seat. It wasn't so bad, the 'conductor' had to hang onto the outside of the minibus so he could continue to hold shut the sliding side door, which at some point in history had lost any kind of locking mechanism. He didn't seem too troubled, he continued conversation by sticking his head back in through the window. My seat didn't have a back other than two pointy bits of metal, the exhaust seemed to be vented through the passenger cabin and the floor got so hot that I couldn't put my feet down. Suspension and shock absorbers were memory long before it was asked to carry twenty-plus recently fed people down a dirt road. Seat belts? We were so crammed in that really, in the event of a crash, none of us were going anywhere. A sign above the driver in Shona promised that God was in the driving seat. All I can say is that God has a heavy foot and a liking for beeping the horn.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hellymedic on June 15, 2015, 12:36:54 pm
Dad's car got written off when the airbags deployed so I understand replacement is neither cheap nor simple.
Dad has thankfully had no need to replace any of his six children (three of whom are now grandparents so seem efficient at self-replicating...)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tiermat on June 15, 2015, 12:57:59 pm
Dad's car got written off when the airbags deployed so I understand replacement is neither cheap nor simple.
Dad has thankfully had no need to replace any of his six children (three of whom are now grandparents so seem efficient at self-replicating...)

Simple, yes (usually just a couple of bolts and wiring plug) cheap, NO! I had an occasion to price up replacing a steering wheel airbag.  Not much left from 4 figures.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on June 15, 2015, 01:13:59 pm
The problem comes when someone's face is within the deployment range of the air bag (e.g. sitting on the driver's lap). It's a hefty bone-breaking smack as face meets explosively deploying plastic.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Zipperhead on June 15, 2015, 02:03:27 pm
Here's a demonstration of the forces released by Bulgarian funbags airbag:
https://youtu.be/w31E7myVDxU (https://youtu.be/w31E7myVDxU)

When we were children in car restraint consisted of a rolled up newspaper, except when we were in grandad's car when we could stand on the front seat with our heads through the sunroof as he drove around.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hellymedic on June 15, 2015, 02:11:08 pm
We had seatbelts or child harnesses at the back of the family car from 1964.
One of our next-door neighbour twins was killed by ejection in 1963.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: orienteer on June 15, 2015, 04:50:29 pm
Are motorbike combinations still legal? An uncle used to bring his family in one down to London from Yorkshire on the A1, before Mways. Had to be particularly careful turning left........
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on June 19, 2015, 08:47:17 am
Man in his 20s with little boy of 5 or 6 waiting to cross the road. It was about 1/4 past 5 and quite busy. "When I say GO! we run across the road". He'd picked the widest part of the road, directly opposite the chip shop (guess where they were going). Traffic was quite heavy with only small gaps. They did make it across, thanks to the alertness of a Freelander driver, but what kind of idiot encourages a small child to run across a busy road?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on June 19, 2015, 08:50:03 am
what kind of idiot encourages a small child to run across a busy road?

cf Kevin Ward http://www.darwinawards.com/darwin/darwin2014-13.html
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: red marley on June 19, 2015, 09:02:02 am
In my day we had machines dedicated to encouraging such behaviour (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogger).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on June 19, 2015, 09:06:28 am
In my day we had machines dedicated to encouraging such behaviour (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogger).
I thought that was going to be ice cream vans! Or pelican crossings with v short timings.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tiermat on June 19, 2015, 09:16:01 am
In my day we had machines dedicated to encouraging such behaviour (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frogger).

Which has been updated (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yodo1.crossyroad&hl=en) for the modern kids...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: red marley on June 19, 2015, 09:19:07 am
Ice cream vans would commonly have a "Mind that child!" exclamation painted on the back (do they still do that?). A clear statement that it should be drivers who need to take responsibility for ensuring they don't injure incautious children, not admonishments to people who dare stray into vehicle territory.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Riggers on June 19, 2015, 12:19:53 pm
… if they do, wouldn't it be great if they were in a regional dialect:

"N'then. Loooook'owt. Thaz a child abut! Flower."
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on June 19, 2015, 12:58:58 pm
First I heard his bell and saw the people crossing the round I was about to turn left into scatter. Then he came rushing round the corner, doing about 25mph down the one in eight hill, on the wrong side of the road as he turned into the side street I was coming out of. He diverted around me and almost into a car parked on the other side of the street. But hey, at least he was wearing a helmet!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mustgettaller on June 19, 2015, 01:48:29 pm
The youth who decided to hop off the pavement on his MTB into the cycle lane between Emsworth and Havant - the wrong way -  to meet me coming the right way. I had visions of writing of the 2nd bike in 3 weeks as I did an endo and nearly had to swerve into the overtaking traffic.

(Was on carbon light thing after my Secteur was written off in a collision with stupid woman pulling out of a car park and bouncing me into a cast iron bollard - the bruises were impressive!)

I grabbed his arm to tell him how stupid he was - reasonably politely but less so as he completely lacked to acknowledge any problem. I nearly did the over-50 thing of "take those earphones out and listen to me - you leave when I've **** well stopped talking to you" but couldn't be bothered. I did nearly just punch his lights out though - I was so pissed off. Luckily sense prevailed. And I'm normally so mild mannered...

Was a couple of weeks ago but finally got round to ranting about it.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on June 19, 2015, 02:07:40 pm
The youth who decided to hop off the pavement on his MTB into the cycle lane between Emsworth and Havant - the wrong way -  to meet me coming the right way. I had visions of writing of the 2nd bike in 3 weeks as I did an endo and nearly had to swerve into the overtaking traffic.

Or the youth who decided to hop off the pavement on his MTB into the dual-carriageway Bristol road - the wrong way - to meet me coming up the hill at about 5mph on a loaded Brompton.  He swerved into the fortuitous absence of traffic, built up significant speed from the hill and shot off into a side-road behind me.

No real risk of a collision, but I really don't know why he didn't just stay on the pavement.   ???
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on June 20, 2015, 05:50:11 pm
c. 11 a.m. in York's Coppergate I have stopped on the red at the busy pedestrian crossing.  30-ish guy wearing big headphones riding a slime green bike, too impatient to wait for all to cross and charges over just missing a woman in front of me but only because she jumps out of his way.  Lucky she was agile.   
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on July 03, 2015, 08:41:10 am
A507 Shefford by-pass at 1/4 to 7 last night. A red Peugeot estate sweeps past, passenger hanging out of the window, giving it the usual unintelligable NYAGREKLEZMOWTTIYHFG ending in a doppler-effected ROAD TAAX YOU CAAAAAaaant.

This, erm, person, qualifies as a Dick rather than an Oik or a Motorised Moron for two excellent reasons.

1 (One) - He was wearing a black CYCLING jersey.
2 (MMXV) - The car he was travelling in had two very shiny roadbikes on the roof-rack. ::-)

What is the world coming to?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on July 03, 2015, 08:48:45 am
Stolen car ?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on July 03, 2015, 08:49:03 am
And clothes ?

:-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on July 03, 2015, 09:36:45 am
Actually, I think he was probably part of the new breed of MAMILS who seem to be multiplying now the weather has improved. What, a few weeks ago, were quite quiet routes on a weekend have now become busy with lycra-clad morons riding their bikes in the same fashion as they drive their AUDIs. It can get somewhat scarey at times.

Another couple of months and it'll be blessed peace out there again.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on July 03, 2015, 10:21:33 am
A507 Shefford by-pass at 1/4 to 7 last night. A red Peugeot estate sweeps past, passenger hanging out of the window, giving it the usual unintelligable NYAGREKLEZMOWTTIYHFG ending in a doppler-effected ROAD TAAX YOU CAAAAAaaant.

This, erm, person, qualifies as a Dick rather than an Oik or a Motorised Moron for two excellent reasons.

1 (One) - He was wearing a black CYCLING jersey.
2 (MMXV) - The car he was travelling in had two very shiny roadbikes on the roof-rack. ::-)

What is the world coming to?

Irony?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on July 03, 2015, 10:54:45 am
Not Americans then.

:-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: red marley on July 03, 2015, 12:37:03 pm
[...] unintelligable NYAGREKLEZMOWTTIYHFG ending in a doppler-effected ROAD TAAX YOU CAAAAAaaant.

It being unintelligible, what they actually said was "Well done lad, keep going! The roads here in God's own county of South Yorkshire are second to none, paid for out of a non-hypthecated taxation system. As much as people think you should contribute to them though a road tax, you can't."
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on July 03, 2015, 01:57:58 pm
What is the world coming to?

Irony?

Quite.  Though I generally reserve that sort of thing for people I actually know.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on July 06, 2015, 09:23:09 am
The biter bit...

Quote
A private wheel clamper from Hampshire has been fined £500 for clamping police cars providing security for a private visit by the Queen to Portsmouth.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15496114 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15496114)

 ;D ;D ;D :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: orienteer on July 06, 2015, 11:01:32 am
The biter bit...

Quote
A private wheel clamper from Hampshire has been fined £500 for clamping police cars providing security for a private visit by the Queen to Portsmouth.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15496114 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15496114)

 ;D ;D ;D :facepalm:

"Colin Shackel, prosecuting, said PC Mark Cox and a second officer, both in plain clothes, were providing protection for the Queen."

Bit of nominative determinism too!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on July 06, 2015, 11:17:24 am
The biter bit...

Quote
A private wheel clamper from Hampshire has been fined £500 for clamping police cars providing security for a private visit by the Queen to Portsmouth.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15496114 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15496114)

 ;D ;D ;D :facepalm:

Quote
Andrews told the court he had tried to call his firm's control room for authorisation to remove the clamp, and had been prevented from doing so by police.

If that is true, then this poor bastard has been really shafted. He's lost his job, his marriage and had threats made against him.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on July 06, 2015, 01:57:41 pm
The biter bit...

Quote
A private wheel clamper from Hampshire has been fined £500 for clamping police cars providing security for a private visit by the Queen to Portsmouth.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15496114 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15496114)

 ;D ;D ;D :facepalm:

Quote
Andrews told the court he had tried to call his firm's control room for authorisation to remove the clamp, and had been prevented from doing so by police.

If that is true, then this poor bastard has been really shafted. He's lost his job, his marriage and had threats made against him.

The job loss may well be related to this incident. No idea what led to the marriage breakdown and threats.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: woollypigs on July 06, 2015, 02:50:28 pm
Forgot about this, few weeks back, while walking in town. Three cyclict went through the red, over the pedestrian crossing I had green on. As with everything I forgot to shout something, mainly because I never have a great punch line ready. Even when it is that simple as - it's red!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: caerau on July 17, 2015, 12:02:12 pm
DOTD today is your truly.


With various graduation ceremonies taking place this week at my place of employment they've put in temporary metal ramps up the whole 3 steps to get into the main entrance to the building - for catering and presumably disabled access.  I've been enjoying yomping up one of them on the bike, not because it saves me any time, but just because it's a bit of fun in the morning.


Sometimes it pays to pay attention to the weather though.  Next time I'll save this silliness for dry conditions.  :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tonyh on July 17, 2015, 01:13:22 pm
Hope you're ok!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: madcow on July 17, 2015, 01:59:54 pm
DOTD today is your truly.


With various graduation ceremonies taking place this week at my place of employment they've put in temporary metal ramps up the whole 3 steps to get into the main entrance to the building - for catering and presumably disabled access.  I've been enjoying yomping up one of them on the bike, not because it saves me any time, but just because it's a bit of fun in the morning.


Sometimes it pays to pay attention to the weather though.  Next time I'll save this silliness for dry conditions.  :facepalm:

You know the old saying -the bigger they come , the harder they fall. Hope you're O.K.
Think Rory Mcillroy and the Open , except substitute Welsh guy and PBP.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on July 29, 2015, 08:40:32 am
Female jogger in all blue foopball kit who caused a lorry driver to change his trousers by running straight across the roundabout about 6 feet in front of his moving lorry on the busy A507 Chicksands roundabout at 0715 this morning. About 20 feet from a Toucan crossing ::-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on July 29, 2015, 01:05:38 pm
Female jogger in all blue foopball kit who caused a lorry driver to change his trousers by running straight across the roundabout about 6 feet in front of his moving lorry on the busy A507 Chicksands roundabout at 0715 this morning. About 20 feet from a Toucan crossing ::-)

Bet she was enjoying her choons though.......
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Redlight on July 31, 2015, 02:36:45 pm
Arguably two for the price of one here

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/motorist-takes-a-tumble-while-trying-to-attack-cyclist-video-185352?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social (http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest-news/motorist-takes-a-tumble-while-trying-to-attack-cyclist-video-185352?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=Social)

The only person who comes out with any credit is the slightly embarrassed looking passenger.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: red marley on July 31, 2015, 05:24:26 pm
Should've worn a helmet.


But really, chasing down impatient idiotic drivers to educate them until they explode is never going to make the roads a better place to be.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on July 31, 2015, 05:37:12 pm
Dunno if he chased anyone down, he just carried on with his ride. Mr Sweary driver may not have learned anything from this, thousands of other potential sweary drivers have.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: red marley on July 31, 2015, 05:58:16 pm
I don't share your optimism. I think the kind of confrontational behaviour shown by both in the video just reinforces an "us and them" attitude that will do little to encourage considerate behaviour. Headcam warriors do us no favours at all, putting off potential new cyclists and normalising what is still thankfully relatively rare aggressive behaviour.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on July 31, 2015, 06:00:12 pm
Politely remonstrating with a driver who just risked your life isn't being a "warrior".

Drivers sometimes offer unremunerated and un-asked for advice to me, even when I haven't come close to endangering them, wouldn't occur to me to threaten them for doing so.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: caerau on July 31, 2015, 06:03:16 pm
I just put that on the today's motorised moron thread, I was thinking it might not be out of place here too - seems I'm not the only one who thought that  :thumbsup:


Yeah, both were dicks there really.


I did enjoy 'Do you have insurance? no!'  er... 'Yes'


though
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on July 31, 2015, 06:11:11 pm
Politely remonstrating with a driver who just risked your life isn't being a "warrior".

Chasing him down several turns later in order to do so is more than a bit confrontational, though.

And I agree with jo about the merits of sharing videos like this.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on July 31, 2015, 06:12:46 pm
 That may have been his commute, catching up with that driver just shows how stupid and pointless the dangerous overtake was.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on July 31, 2015, 06:17:50 pm
That may have been his commute, catching up with that driver just shows how stupid and pointless the dangerous overtake was.

It seems a suboptimal route for a commute, doubling back on yourself like that.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on July 31, 2015, 06:20:16 pm
https://vid.me/XeuC
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: clarion on July 31, 2015, 06:22:04 pm
Should have been wearing a helmet.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on July 31, 2015, 06:25:31 pm
(http://road.cc/sites/default/files/image_1148.jpg)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jurek on July 31, 2015, 09:37:37 pm
Spindrift, you cock!  ;D
I'm with Jo on this one.
Cyclist appeared to be no peace ambassador....
I pity the next cyclist the Peugeot driver encounters.
I can't help but think that if there had been no camera, this would have been a non-incident - other than for a sharp intake of breath.

Must confess to allowing myself a snigger when I see Peugeot-boy take a roll. :demon:
As well as feel sorry for him.
That probably hurt.
It wasn't any judo break-fall I've seen before.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Freya on July 31, 2015, 11:15:47 pm
Whatever the rights or wrongs of the guy on the bike.......that is extremely funny.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on August 01, 2015, 08:19:26 am
The worst side of cycling vigilantism. Looked at some of the other of his videos, he must be really pleased to have something so "exciting".
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Zipperhead on August 26, 2015, 02:45:56 pm
Cycling in London there's no shortage of idiots on bicycles, every day I encounter two wheeled idiots determined to injure themselves and others and I thought I'd seen just about every variant of muppetry and fuckwitedness that humanity could devise, but this morning I met one who was so far off the stupid scale that to call him a moron would be an insult to morons worldwide.

I was on my way to work and going along Lombard Road in Battersea about here (https://goo.gl/9aKZTy).

At the traffic lights ahead the path from the river comes out on the left (which is why the lights are there). Just behind me on the left the path goes back to the river. Lazy/stupid (ie pretty much most of them) cyclists used to come out at the lights and cycle along the pavement, despite the no cycling signs. But at the moment the pavement isn't there as the site on the left is being redeveloped*

As I was about where the camera is in the streetview link, a cyclist comes out from the path on the left at the lights into the road (on the wrong side) and cycles towards me, so I moved out to avoid him, then to add to the fun his dog appeared behind him. Not on a lead, Mr. muppet wasn't even looking to see what his dog was doing, it was just running behind him. Seeing me the dog just ran out into the centre of the lane, and my worry was that the cars behind having seen me swerve to avoid the idiot wouldn't spot the dog and would run it over. Fortunately they did and no animals were injured.

The world is full of these idiots - and most of them probably drive cars as well.

* Because the pavement isn't there the developers have added a temporary traffic light (and someone to operate it) to allow pedestrians to cross, go along the other side and cross back at the lights, most don't, but that's ok because there are enough people in high vis and hard hats in the road to shield them.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Wascally Weasel on August 27, 2015, 04:35:23 pm
I often say hello or good morning to the hi viz clad workers.  Sometimes they put the lights on red when they see me approaching now!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: pumpkin on August 28, 2015, 11:31:09 am
Yesterday am when my wife was on the way to work. The driver edging out from a l/h road. He sees he and she knows he's going to go anyway so she starts to slow down and he goes. he then goes immeditely right to a block of shops on the opp. side of the road but forgets to look for oncoming traffic and finds a car in the side of his. No doubt the cyclist was to blame somewhere. She witnessed an incident the other week on the Belmont road, north of Bolton where a motorist passed the cyclists from her club (sensibly) but when he got to the leading cyclist he then immediately turned right towards his house but found a motorcycle buried in the side of his car and the rider later died after being carried off in the helicopter. It's always that moments inattention. >:( :(
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Zipperhead on September 24, 2015, 12:32:20 am
I must have a sign on my back that says "fuck me from behind", that everybody but me can see.

On the way home, pulling away from a set of lights another bicycle overtook me and immediately cut across me to go up the ramp, immediately after the lights, onto the pavement. Fortunately my brakes were a little sharper than his brain.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Wascally Weasel on September 29, 2015, 10:32:23 am
I must have a sign on my back that says "fuck me from behind", that everybody but me can see.

On the way home, pulling away from a set of lights another bicycle overtook me and immediately cut across me to go up the ramp, immediately after the lights, onto the pavement. Fortunately my brakes were a little sharper than his brain.

No, I just think that the level of road skills (and road sense) is diminishing, or being more widely spread amongst a greater number of people (in the way that a the last tiny remnants of a tub of margarine get very thinly spread on a piece of toast).  I’m sure I’m seeing worse riding on the roads I share with you for commuting than I used to.

Some big tubby sack of shit ahead of me went up the inside of a 4x4 as it was going through a pinch point, was almost taken out and then shouted at the car driver.

I over took him at the earliest safe opportunity (after he had helpfully pulled out to the right without looking or signalling a smidge earlier).  Then he overtook me at the lights and sat in front of me (in the pedestrian crossing).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on September 29, 2015, 11:02:41 am
Not sure about this one, but I saw an off on Saturday up Hackney-way (the road from Homerton to the bridge over the Lea). Lycra-clad bloke with all the gear sprints past me. There's a car ahead of him indicating left, quite obviously to pull into some flats. Now, yes, the driver should have looked in their mirror, but equally it was obvious what they were doing and the cyclist could have simply slowed down and let them complete the manoevre or gone around on the outside. But no, he had to try and go through the inside and clipped the front of the turning car. He was fine but having a right barney at the driver. It was one of those things so easily avoided by either party, especially the cyclist who had two easy options.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tonycollinet on September 30, 2015, 01:01:25 pm
In my view that is 100% the cyclist. If he goes left up the side of a left turning vehicle, it is unreasonable to expect the driver to be looking in the mirror all the time to spot such stupid behaviour.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on October 07, 2015, 08:53:49 am
Dicks of the 1030pm yesterday are the two yoofs in dark clothes, no lights, riding along a narrow and somewhat twisty unlit road - on the wrong side!

Anybody who's familiar with the road between Upper Gravenhurst and Campton will want to join me in saying "They must be bloody stupid!"
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Redlight on October 08, 2015, 09:40:32 pm
The black-clad fixed wheel ninja who decided that it was a good idea to overtake a group of cyclists approaching a junction on Tower Bridge Road on their right and then immediately turn left across their wheels. It was a move worthy of the Addison Lee bag that he had over his shoulder.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: HTFB on October 14, 2015, 11:46:51 am
Yesterday's bloke on the Overground, too old to be a hipster, travelling with a nice old orange and chrome derailleur frame built for 27" wheels. He'd achieved a single-speed 700c conversion by the simple expedient of taking both brakes off. No, it wasn't a fixie. And the chain was very, very slack. (I suppose it's possible he'd just bought it and was taking it home to rescue, which would make the DOTD the previous owner.)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on October 14, 2015, 03:45:19 pm
Leeds, this morning. Rush-hour pedestrian levels.
Rider on a full carbon aero-frame-tube jobby with deep, deep section rims (prob near 90mm. Bad Bunny hop onto pavement then proceeded to honk in surges like he was going up a 1/3.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: runsoncake on October 20, 2015, 07:10:32 pm
JUst wonder what goes through some peoples heads at times.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34584344 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34584344)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: rogerzilla on November 12, 2015, 08:58:39 pm
The POBs with no lights who ride on psyclepaths, taking random sides.  FFS get some blinkies and keep left.  Also, the peds who invariably walk on the bike side and mobile phone users who can't even hear the ringing of a bell.  I had to tap one such phone user on the shoulder to clear a path on the way home and even then I'm not sure she really noticed, although she did move.  Cycle paths just don't work.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on November 12, 2015, 09:08:06 pm
Shared-use paths don't work.

Cycle paths I'm suspending judgement on until I actually meet one...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: andyoxon on November 13, 2015, 10:01:42 am
This (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.6570707,-1.3031017,3a,75y,185.59h,88.54t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1swlT4cPy7gVLJlk8LGy69CA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) is one shared-use I use, and it's fine, because the number of pedestrians is low.  Do occasionally meet the oblivious runners with headphones though...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on November 19, 2015, 11:11:24 am
Chap on a hybrid with bright red light on the back of his lid, a bright red light on the back of his rucksack, a bright flashy red light on his seat pillar, and a bright flashy red light on the back fork. Don't you think a front light might come in handy at that undogly hour on a cloudy dark morning?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on November 19, 2015, 11:15:12 am
Talking of effing runners, walking across Hammersmith Bridge the other night and one decided Mrs Ham was in his way so pushed her aside. Unfortunately behind me and I didn't notice otherwise I think I might have provided a more immovable barrier to progress. I vote runners can be included in DOTD, as they likely have at least the lycra and road bike at home.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on November 19, 2015, 11:25:04 am
I vote runners can be included in DOTD, as they likely have at least the lycra and road bike at home.
Seconded
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on November 19, 2015, 01:37:10 pm
Nahh, runners are obviously poor people who can't afford bicycles.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tom_e on November 19, 2015, 01:45:14 pm
I doubt non- runners & cyclists distinguish, we're probably all yoghurt knitting health freaks to them.  Your bullying runner blends right in with those red light jumpers.

I reckon shared use isn't so bad, IF there is plenty of space for all the users.  Not as fast as blasting down the road if you have to share with people on foot.  Then again it sometimes isn't as fast to drive the car when sharing the road with lorries. & cyclists.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on November 25, 2015, 01:56:35 pm
I feel this Lord Sugar article belongs here as DOTD!

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/lord-sugar-attacked-by-cyclists-on-twitter-after-suggesting-99-per-cent-accidents-would-be-avoided-a3122886.html
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on November 25, 2015, 02:09:55 pm
I really dislike sugar, but he is making a valid point. His "99%" figure is obviously wrong, but suggesting avoiding going down the inside of large vehicles, etc, is sensible.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DDCyclist on November 25, 2015, 02:12:30 pm
He's got a point. Reading the road and surrounding hazards will reduce accidents. That works whatever mode of transport you use including your feet.

I seriously doubt that it would eliminate 99% of accidents though. Maybe (moistens finger and sticks it in the air) 10 to 20%.

99%? Not a chance. Years of bimbling up and down the M1 on a motorcycle made me super-aware of what most drivers were going to do before they signalled - but some remained unpredictable.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on November 25, 2015, 02:37:12 pm
It's all fine being more aware of my situation and believe me I am!! It's the other roads users that aren't aware of THEIR situations which makes it dangerous for everyone. Lord Sugar is wrong to put all the onus onto cyclists.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: red marley on November 25, 2015, 02:46:19 pm
No-one's going to object to showing good awareness on the roads being a desirable thing.

But it is wrong to suggest that (a) lack of awareness from cyclists is a principal factor in incidents; (b) that everyone bears equal responsibility to improve their awareness.

The former is supported by analysis of incidents - see, for example http://road.cc/content/news/83104-two-thirds-cyclist-injuries-following-collisions-motor-vehicle-due-driver-says
The latter is the basis for a presumed liability approach to managing responsibility and effecting behaviour change, which recognises as a principle that those with the greatest capacity to do harm are the ones that have the greatest responsibility to avoid that harm.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on November 25, 2015, 03:54:28 pm
There is a world of difference between blaming cyclists and saying that if you choose to take extra care you can avoid most accidents.

You certainly can while driving.

Just because you might have been able to avoid an accident by using extra skill does not make it your fault if a driver piles into you.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on November 25, 2015, 04:28:03 pm
Lord Beardface of Hackney is a contemptible maggot. If he reckons 99% of RTCs were down to a fault on the part of the rider then with 16 deaths a year you only have to find 2 blameless riders to show the absurdly self-important gobshite is talking pants. The majority of riders were blameless. Risky or illegal cycling is a factor in just 6% of KSI RTCs, Sugar claims almost the opposite of the reality. He's a slime-ball Murdock spiv with "Lord Sugar" written across his crossbar, the stupid big penis. 
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Regulator on November 25, 2015, 04:37:15 pm
JUst wonder what goes through some peoples heads at times.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34584344 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-34584344)

One side of the story... which smells a bit fishy.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on November 25, 2015, 04:54:33 pm
Lord Beardface of Hackney is a contemptible maggot. If he reckons 99% of RTCs were down to a fault on the part of the rider then with 16 deaths a year you only have to find 2 blameless riders to show the absurdly self-important gobshite is talking pants. The majority of riders were blameless. Risky or illegal cycling is a factor in just 6% of KSI RTCs, Sugar claims almost the opposite of the reality. He's a slime-ball Murdock spiv with "Lord Sugar" written across his crossbar, the stupid big penis.

Not a big fan of him then?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on November 25, 2015, 05:27:46 pm
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/28/article-1165492-040A2052000005DC-393_233x223.jpg)

Ghastly man. Nasty, ignorant victim-blaming from..why's he talking about cycling anyway? What's it got to do with beard face, he doesn't cycle in London cos a driver takes him everywhere. Suddenly he's laying the law down about stuff he knows squit about.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DDCyclist on November 25, 2015, 05:58:51 pm
Lord Beardface of Hackney is a contemptible maggot. If he reckons 99% of RTCs were down to a fault on the part of the rider then with 16 deaths a year you only have to find 2 blameless riders to show the absurdly self-important gobshite is talking pants. The majority of riders were blameless. Risky or illegal cycling is a factor in just 6% of KSI RTCs, Sugar claims almost the opposite of the reality. He's a slime-ball Murdock spiv with "Lord Sugar" written across his crossbar, the stupid big penis.

Not a big fan of him then?
(http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/28/article-1165492-040A2052000005DC-393_233x223.jpg)

Ghastly man. Nasty, ignorant victim-blaming from..why's he talking about cycling anyway? What's it got to do with beard face, he doesn't cycle in London cos a driver takes him everywhere. Suddenly he's laying the law down about stuff he knows squit about.

I think that'd be a "no."   ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on November 26, 2015, 08:40:47 am
Lord Beardface of Hackney is a contemptible maggot. If he reckons 99% of RTCs were down to a fault on the part of the rider then with 16 deaths a year you only have to find 2 blameless riders to show the absurdly self-important gobshite is talking pants. The majority of riders were blameless. Risky or illegal cycling is a factor in just 6% of KSI RTCs, Sugar claims almost the opposite of the reality. He's a slime-ball Murdock spiv with "Lord Sugar" written across his crossbar, the stupid big penis.
Oh ffs

yes, he's a contemptible maggot.

However, he did not say that RTCs were the fault of the cyclist. He pretty much said the OPPOSITE!
The thrust of what he was saying was that all cyclists should assume that all car (drivers) near them are trying to kill them, and that hence they should ride very very defensively.

Sugar cycles a lot and at a heck of a speed, according to cycling weekly journalists who have ridden with him.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on November 26, 2015, 09:38:06 am
He said:

Quote
"as long as you have that philosophy when you’re riding your bike in central London, I think 99 per cent of the accidents that occurred would have been avoided.”

Which is complete bollocks and implies that the dead or injured cyclists only had to follow his stupid advice to avoid the collision. the reality is almost the complete opposite, the cyclist's behaviour is rarely the causal factor. He's explicitly saying that the cyclists in collisions could have followed his advice and been ok. He doesn't cycle in London. He claimed his split helmet was proof they work. He has form for flapping his gums about stuff he knows nothing about and it gets press attention because in this country it's assumed that celebrities are sources of wisdom. It's all dangerous stuff, the LTDA got wind of the Standard poll and have flooded it with votes saying the undertaking cyclist was at fault in that collision. Mmmm, so cabbies are anxious to blame cyclists for collisions, and self-important windbag Sugar declares that he has the answer to road safety, and it's CYCLISTS TAKE CARE.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on November 26, 2015, 09:51:11 am
He could, and should, have equally easily said : -

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And as long as you have that philosophy when you’re riding your bike driving your vehicle in central London, I think 99 per cent of the accidents that occurred would have been avoided.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on November 26, 2015, 10:00:05 am
He said:

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"as long as you have that philosophy when you’re riding your bike in central London, I think 99 per cent of the accidents that occurred would have been avoided.”

Which is complete bollocks and implies that the dead or injured cyclists only had to follow his stupid advice to avoid the collision. the reality is almost the complete opposite, the cyclist's behaviour is rarely the causal factor. He's explicitly saying that the cyclists in collisions could have followed his advice and been ok. He doesn't cycle in London. He claimed his split helmet was proof they work. He has form for flapping his gums about stuff he knows nothing about and it gets press attention because in this country it's assumed that celebrities are sources of wisdom. It's all dangerous stuff, the LTDA got wind of the Standard poll and have flooded it with votes saying the undertaking cyclist was at fault in that collision. Mmmm, so cabbies are anxious to blame cyclists for collisions, and self-important windbag Sugar declares that he has the answer to road safety, and it's CYCLISTS TAKE CARE.

You do realise that your rant about Sugar says more about you than it does about him?

That's bye the bye. Let's try it with driving.

Do you think that it is true that when driving, with application of skill you can significantly change the probability of being involved in  a road traffic accident? That by developing and applying observational and positional techniques you can ensure for the most part that if an accident happens you won't be involved? It's true whether you believe it or not. You may choose to read that as "if you have an accident it is then your own fault", personally I wouldn't because while more people would be capable of developing those techniques many probably aren't. For example, if a car joins a motorway and ploughs into the side of someone driving along happily in the inside lane, it isn't the fault of the driver of that car as he has right of way. However, I'd like to think it wouldn't have happened to me, as either (a) I wouldn't have been in that lane or (b) I would have been alert to the possibility at that position of risk.

It's the same with bikes.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on November 26, 2015, 10:10:32 am
If the Oddjob freak had said the answer is for EVERYONE to take care it would have been helpful, but because he pulled that 99% statistic right out of his stupid Hackney arse he reinforces victim-blaming. Being "situationally aware" doesn't work against lorry drivers playing with phones.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on November 26, 2015, 11:31:20 am
If the Oddjob freak had said the answer is for EVERYONE to take care it would have been helpful, but because he pulled that 99% statistic right out of his stupid Hackney arse he reinforces victim-blaming. Being "situationally aware" doesn't work against lorry drivers playing with phones.

Unfortunately the only person that I know  who will listen to what I say is me, and even he doesn't sometimes. So, "Everyone Take Care" is aspirational, but bloody useless at keeping me alive.

And I'm afraid that being situationally aware DOES work against lorry drivers playing with phones. Not in all circumstances in all ways, but in most of those circumstances that I have observed or read about resulting in cyclist injury it does.

Take the case of the lorry that turned left at Holborn, from the wrong position in the road. The cyclist crushed against the railings was not at fault in the slightest, but if they had observed the signal (which the lorry was actually making) they could have chosen not have been where they were.

You CAN ride to keep yourself alive, it doesn't make it your fault if you fail to do so.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on November 26, 2015, 11:44:23 am
Sugar cycles a lot and at a heck of a speed, according to cycling weekly journalists who have ridden with him.

Cycling at a heck of a speed does seem to reduce conflict with motor traffic...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TimC on November 26, 2015, 03:15:25 pm
When I was in the military, if I was tasked with flying into an area where people really were trying to kill me, I spent a great deal of time and energy doing everything I could to make damn sure I wasn't an easy target. In an urban cycling environment, the same applies. I would love for drivers to be more aware and to consistently and reliably do all they could to avoid me, but I know that's a forlorn hope so I will do everything I can to minimise the risk of being a victim. That includes the measures Alan Sugar suggests. No, it won't prevent '99% of accidents', but hopefully it will prevent 99% of my accidents.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on November 26, 2015, 03:37:24 pm
I did four years in the SAS and left because the balaclava made me itchy but Alan Beard is appealing to terrible drivers who are desperate to believe that the collision they may cause will be the rider's fault. Rubbish drivers love to believe cyclists are constantly throwing themselves under car wheels, it's a neat little pre-prepared bias built into society that the self-appointed Yoda of Cycling has just reinforced.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: red marley on November 26, 2015, 04:18:55 pm
The video of the cyclist-taxi collision (https://youtu.be/8TGSWcSfK_U) that's doing the social media rounds at the moment is an apposite example of the kind of thing we are discussing.

There's little doubt that if the cyclist had stopped before the taxi driver moved left, or filtered to his right (or stayed at home that day), there would not have been a collision between them. So it feels natural to suggest that cyclists should be more aware of the possibility of situations like this arising. However, we also have to consider the effect of very public words of advice such as Sugar's which will be heard by more non cyclists than cyclists. In this case, the taxi driver did a classic manoeuvresignal rather than mirror -- signal -- manoeuvre, showing a lack of awareness that had more serious consequences for the cyclist than it did for the driver. Discussion of #bloodycyclists filtering down the inside has the consequence of allowing those who actually do the harm to avoid having to change their behaviour or accept responsibility for the potentially dangerous vehicles they control.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on November 26, 2015, 04:59:54 pm
Sorry Jo, are you saying continuing to stream down the inside of a vehicle indicating left is good cycling? That is any more good than turning left without regard for the cyclist come up the inside?

There is a huge disparity in the responsibility of the car and the bike, there's nothing to choose when it comes to the competence of the driver and rider.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jakob W on November 26, 2015, 05:25:05 pm
Except the taxi starts turning and flicking his indicator at the same time, when the cyclist is almost level with the rear of the cab. Now you might say you should never filter left near a junction even if a vehicle's not indicating, but the cabbie's competence is far below the cyclist's - the first cyclist of 3 has just passed his front wing and he clearly isn't aware of the other 2 behind him, nor does he do any kind of mirror check before he turns.

Now obviously defensively paranoid riding can protect against some risks - albeit at the cost of a slower or more tiring journey as it's safer never to pass a vehicle - but the fact remains that motor vehicles are so much faster and heavier that they can put you at risk whatever you do. Which is why the onus should always be on the driver to ensure they're not placing others at risk.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on November 26, 2015, 05:26:39 pm
Svetlana Tereschenko was killed by a lorry driver who didn't bother indicating. The lorry driver that killed Daniel Cox was indicating, but unfortunately he turned the opposite direction. Neither cyclist did anything wrong, both have their behaviour impugned by Sugar. Sebastien Lukowmski and Mary Bowers were both stopped at traffic lights and a lorry driver came up behind and either didn't notice or forgot the cyclists were there and ended both their lives. So when Sugar says:

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Any truck that is parked by traffic lights, I will not go down the inside lane of it. I will stay behind it and be patient because it’s going to kill me.
 

he's bolstering the view that riders killed by trucks have been rash or intemperate and that is not often the case. It's not even usually the case.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: red marley on November 26, 2015, 06:36:28 pm
Sorry Jo, are you saying continuing to stream down the inside of a vehicle indicating left is good cycling?

As you might guess, I wouldn't say this is 'good cycling'. What I did say though can be paraphrased as Anyone can behave less than ideally on the road, but those whose less than ideal behaviour poses the greatest danger to others have the greatest obligation to behave better.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on November 26, 2015, 10:28:02 pm
Sorry Jo, are you saying continuing to stream down the inside of a vehicle indicating left is good cycling?

As you might guess, I wouldn't say this is 'good cycling'. What I did say though can be paraphrased as Anyone can behave less than ideally on the road, but those whose less than ideal behaviour poses the greatest danger to others have the greatest obligation to behave better.

I'd never argue with that.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on November 27, 2015, 09:21:51 am
Taxi drivers that suddenly lurch to the left to a kerb for a customer that stuck their hands out are bloody lethal drivers! Same goes for those that are already by the kerb with the left indicator on then suddenly, as you are moving out to the right to go round them, decided to flick right indicator and attempt a complete u-turn with scant regards for both cyclists and cars  ::-) No amount of situational awareness can make up for those kind of thoughts.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on November 27, 2015, 10:10:16 am
Taxi drivers that suddenly lurch to the left to a kerb for a customer that stuck their hands out are bloody lethal drivers! Same goes for those that are already by the kerb with the left indicator on then suddenly, as you are moving out to the right to go round them, decided to flick right indicator and attempt a complete u-turn with scant regards for both cyclists and cars  ::-) No amount of situational awareness can make up for those kind of thoughts.

Sorry mate, but you couldn't be more wrong.

As you say, some situations make these sort of manoeuvre more probable. For example, an unusual traffic blockage, someone hailing a cab from the other side of the street. Just being aware of the situation gives you the possibility to avoid it, and do all or any of modify your speed, direction, cover your brakes.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on November 27, 2015, 10:31:27 am
That's your opinion. After 5 years of riding in London, I am still occasionally surprised by drivers despite trying to 2nd guess everyone the best I can! 
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: rogerdodge on November 27, 2015, 10:46:39 am
I think that most people here have the anticipation to avoid these kind of accidents most of the time, but this comes from experience and people ought to be able to cycle and survive without those years of learning. Pretty much in the same way that pedestrians do.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on November 27, 2015, 11:34:51 am
I think that most people here have the anticipation to avoid these kind of accidents most of the time, but this comes from experience and people ought to be able to cycle and survive without those years of learning. Pretty much in the same way that pedestrians do.

There are a number of people on here who have undertaken Advanced Driving, Motorcycling, Cycling training and while they may not all agree with me entirely, riding safely is NOT about second guessing what someone else is going to do because, guess what? you don't know. Instead it is about taking control of your destiny yourself.

A really good example (and non controversial) is from driving, what to do with tailgaters on a motorway. It's something that many people have a problem with, the answer  is simple, you ensure that the gap between you and the car in front is such that you can stop without the tailgater going into you.

So, no, it isn't my opinion, it is just best practice.

FTR, nothing I say changes my agreement that people SHOULD be able to cycle and survive without using that level of skill

The common cause I have with Mr S is that  as a personal preference I would prefer not to have segregated cycle facilities. In and of themselves they are arguably not fantastic for cycle safety. What they do do, and why they are ultimately a good thing, is that they bring more people on to bikes which almost however it is achieved is a Good Thing.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Hot Flatus on December 02, 2015, 05:51:49 pm
The video of the cyclist-taxi collision (https://youtu.be/8TGSWcSfK_U) that's doing the social media rounds at the moment is an apposite example of the kind of thing we are discussing.

There's little doubt that if the cyclist had stopped before the taxi driver moved left, or filtered to his right (or stayed at home that day), there would not have been a collision between them. So it feels natural to suggest that cyclists should be more aware of the possibility of situations like this arising. However, we also have to consider the effect of very public words of advice such as Sugar's which will be heard by more non cyclists than cyclists. In this case, the taxi driver did a classic manoeuvresignal rather than mirror -- signal -- manoeuvre, showing a lack of awareness that had more serious consequences for the cyclist than it did for the driver. Discussion of #bloodycyclists filtering down the inside has the consequence of allowing those who actually do the harm to avoid having to change their behaviour or accept responsibility for the potentially dangerous vehicles they control.

Interesting, because I watch that and judge it to be entirely the fault of the cyclist.

Plain old common sense, backed up by Rule 167  of the Highway Code: ‘Do not overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example, approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road’.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: andrew_s on December 12, 2015, 07:54:52 pm
Cyclist attempting to cross a closed level crossing just as a Pendilino HST arrived:
https://uk.screen.yahoo.com/near-misses-close-calls/polish-cyclist-shockingly-drives-path-065236717.html
He was about a half second too late to succeed in his Darwin award attempt, but it's instructive to see how far the smooth side of the train knocked him
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jsabine on December 13, 2015, 01:08:44 am
The video of the cyclist-taxi collision (https://youtu.be/8TGSWcSfK_U) that's doing the social media rounds at the moment is an apposite example of the kind of thing we are discussing.

There's little doubt that if the cyclist had stopped before the taxi driver moved left, or filtered to his right (or stayed at home that day), there would not have been a collision between them. So it feels natural to suggest that cyclists should be more aware of the possibility of situations like this arising. However, we also have to consider the effect of very public words of advice such as Sugar's which will be heard by more non cyclists than cyclists. In this case, the taxi driver did a classic manoeuvresignal rather than mirror -- signal -- manoeuvre, showing a lack of awareness that had more serious consequences for the cyclist than it did for the driver. Discussion of #bloodycyclists filtering down the inside has the consequence of allowing those who actually do the harm to avoid having to change their behaviour or accept responsibility for the potentially dangerous vehicles they control.

Interesting, because I watch that and judge it to be entirely the fault of the cyclist.

Plain old common sense, backed up by Rule 167  of the Highway Code: ‘Do not overtake where you might come into conflict with other road users. For example, approaching or at a road junction on either side of the road’.

I don't think I'd say *entirely* the fault of the cyclist - though I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for him.

Undertaking a moving vehicle at a junction, especially one that's indicating (and I think the taxi's indicator was on as it approached the junction, not just as it turned) is a damn-fool game. Nonetheless, the taxi driver's got to take some responsibility for it: his indicator doesn't give him priority, and he's been put on notice that there are cyclists doing stupid things by the one undertaking immediately beforehand. It would be nice to think he'd have been able to spot the cyclist either in his mirror, or by doing a shoulder check to the nearside as he turned - after all, he's the one driving a ton of metal around.

I'd probably hold him liable, but with 75 or 80% contributory negligence by the cyclist.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on December 13, 2015, 01:47:12 pm
94.2% cabbie's fault. He didn't indicate, didn't check his mirror and turned when it wasn't safe.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on December 13, 2015, 01:48:27 pm
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/taxi-driver-fined-for-knocking-highprofile-cycling-campaigner-off-bike-a3135406.html
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on December 14, 2015, 09:03:58 am
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/taxi-driver-fined-for-knocking-highprofile-cycling-campaigner-off-bike-a3135406.html

....but that was deliberate and targeted.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on December 14, 2015, 11:23:59 am
Cyclist attempting to cross a closed level crossing just as a Pendilino HST arrived:
https://uk.screen.yahoo.com/near-misses-close-calls/polish-cyclist-shockingly-drives-path-065236717.html
He was about a half second too late to succeed in his Darwin award attempt, but it's instructive to see how far the smooth side of the train knocked him
That has to be DOTY
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on December 17, 2015, 08:47:54 am
The 'Stipster' (Stealth Hipster) cycling in the opposite direction to me this morning. Black hair, black full beard, black scarf, black jacket, black jeans, black shoes (probably Chukkas) on an unlit fixie. Hands and face were white but, as his handlebars were about 12" wide and his hands were as close to the middle as he could get them, both were invisible from behind. I looked back as soon as we passed and the only reason I could see him was because I knew he was there, it took me about 5 seconds to locate him.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: dave r on December 21, 2015, 05:55:46 pm
That's your opinion. After 5 years of riding in London, I am still occasionally surprised by drivers despite trying to 2nd guess everyone the best I can!

Even after more than forty years on the road I still get surprised once in a while.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on December 24, 2015, 11:54:14 am
The Yoof on the slime green BMX machine.

Narrow street with an oncoming car. I am approaching a blind left turn.  Said Yoof comes hurtling (i.e. very fast) out of the turn on the wrong side of the road.  It's immediately obvious

a) he is on a collision course with me
b) his bike has absolutely no brakes, none. 

Fortunately I have good brakes and stop instantly to avoid being barged into the oncoming car.  Yoof receives 'feedback' with which he does not argue.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: David Martin on December 29, 2015, 05:33:45 pm
Son. Forgetting the lock is one thing. Failing to turn round and ride the 300m home to get it and instead just leaving the bike outside the bank whne you went in to pay in your christmas gift money was less than wise. It now appears that much of that finance will be going towards replacing the bike that was subsequently lifted in the 5 mins you were inside.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Riggers on January 18, 2016, 01:38:08 pm
. . . goes to the "I'm-cycling's-gift-to-women", or whatever he thought he was, in all-the-gear-but-no-idea as he made his way through two lanes of traffic Saturday afternoon on Brighton seafront. We (my friend and his dog) were crossing at the most convenient point for us while the lights were red 30 yards further down the road . . . as you do. No probs.

Apparently it was for God's-gift-to-cycling who, when we were on the pavement yelled "What's wrong with the proper bloody crossing!!?"

I'll point out, in no way were we impeding or in any way close to him, only aware of him as he sailed past, but he obviously decided to put us in our place. Naturally we shouted back at him and, whaddya know it, he breezed through the red light. We shouted "RED LIGHT!!!"

Knob jockey.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on February 22, 2016, 09:25:57 pm
Just seen a bloke on an unlit bike, attempting to trackstand at a traffic light crossroads and failing so badly he wobbled right to the other side of the road and was nearly hit by a Domino's driver.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on February 23, 2016, 03:38:43 am
Riding to work yesterday evening at 1935 hours, fully dark. Coming towards me on the Balcombe Road, two cyclists riding side by side. One is fully lit, front and back. The other is in all-dark clothing with no lights. The one with the lights was the one on the footpath...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: IJL on February 24, 2016, 10:06:46 am
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Lord Beardface of Hackney is a contemptible maggot. If he reckons 99% of RTCs were down to a fault on the part of the rider then with 16 deaths a year you only have to find 2 blameless riders to show the absurdly self-important gobshite is talking pants. The majority of riders were blameless. Risky or illegal cycling is a factor in just 6% of KSI RTCs, Sugar claims almost the opposite of the reality. He's a slime-ball Murdock spiv with "Lord Sugar" written across his crossbar, the stupid big penis.

I agree 99% is rather OTT. but could have avoided is not the same as being responsible for.  Or as I was told many years ago when I started riding motorbikes "being in the right is no consolation if your lying in the gutter with a broken leg"  I see many bikers and riders put themselves into entirely legal but very risky situations.  I think to some extent this is the nature of cycling most of us are not keen to give the momentum we have worked hard for.  To many road users (of all types) behave as though all the other road users were attentive and intelligent, the reality is many of them are like sheep on the road, only not quite as predictable or sharp witted
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Wycombewheeler on February 24, 2016, 11:00:13 am
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Lord Beardface of Hackney is a contemptible maggot. If he reckons 99% of RTCs were down to a fault on the part of the rider then with 16 deaths a year you only have to find 2 blameless riders to show the absurdly self-important gobshite is talking pants. The majority of riders were blameless. Risky or illegal cycling is a factor in just 6% of KSI RTCs, Sugar claims almost the opposite of the reality. He's a slime-ball Murdock spiv with "Lord Sugar" written across his crossbar, the stupid big penis.

I agree 99% is rather OTT. but could have avoided is not the same as being responsible for.  Or as I was told many years ago when I started riding motorbikes "being in the right is no consolation if your lying in the gutter with a broken leg"  I see many bikers and riders put themselves into entirely legal but very risky situations.  I think to some extent this is the nature of cycling most of us are not keen to give the momentum we have worked hard for.  To many road users (of all types) behave as though all the other road users were attentive and intelligent, the reality is many of them are like sheep on the road, only not quite as predictable or sharp witted

This seems to be at odds with the views of the police.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/uk-roads-policing-expert-i-would-not-commute-by-bike-in-london-there-are-too-many-risks-a3099096.html
I would expect (no basis in statistics) that around 5% of accidents are the fault of the cyclists, probably some 15% where both cyclist and driver are both at fault.  40% where the driver is at fault, but the cyclist may have been able to proactively manage the risk, and probably 40% where the cyclist could do nothing to avoid the accident, short of travelling around in a tone tonne motorised steel safety cage.

also consider that one of the strategies for managing risk is often to claim more road space, but this will lead to aggression from drivers, so we are pushed away from the safer course in many cases.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si S on March 04, 2016, 08:45:37 am
The brakeless rider on Oxford Road who learned the hard way that unless you really enjoy bouncing off buses it's very important you put your flip-flop hub in the right way round .  :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on March 04, 2016, 12:08:29 pm
A special award

http://road.cc/content/news/181268-cyclist-riding-wrong-way-bike-lane-sues-motorist-after-crashing-%E2%80%93-and-loses

(of costs)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on March 16, 2016, 08:38:00 pm
The dunce on a bike this evening who in the dark is riding an unlit county road with no lights, earphones in, and in the 2km I rode escort to him didn't even look over his shoulder once. This was despite two roundabouts taking first and then second exit (only two exits on either).

The only reason I didn't t-bone him as I pulled out of the side turning was a I saw him silhouetted by the lights of a passing car.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: perpetual dan on March 16, 2016, 09:22:54 pm
Approaching a roundabout with three lanes, left hand is left turn; other two feed two lanes straight ahead and turn right. Cyclist in front went from secondary in middle lane to primary in right hand lane, with cars behind in both lanes, and no looking back or indication. Then onto left hand of the straight ahead lanes. Sigh.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: essexian on March 18, 2016, 02:48:58 pm
I had a SMIDSY yesterday late afternoon when out for a pootle along Long Lane, just before its junction with Station Road near Haughton Staffordshire.

I knew riding conditions would be tricky as the sun was very low in the sky meaning that it was difficult to see clearly. However, I had my rear light on its brightest setting and was wearing a bright red top and a yellow lid.

However, popping along at somewhere north of 15mph, I rounded a corner only to spot a white shape up against the hedge…it took me a few milliseconds to realise it was a dog and a few moments longer to work out that the black shape driving into the hedge to get out of the way of a “lycar lout” was the dog emptier.

Sorry mate, I didn’t see you…..  :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: essexian on March 20, 2016, 07:07:54 am
To the bloke in Lichfield who shot two red lights yesterday whilst I waiting for them to change and then had the affront to shout at me for stopping at the next one after I had overtaken him yet again; Sir, you are what I called you, "A dickhead."

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: MagnusOpus on March 21, 2016, 10:27:36 am
To the bloke in Lichfield who shot two red lights yesterday whilst I waiting for them to change and then had the affront to shout at me for stopping at the next one after I had overtaken him yet again; Sir, you are what I called you, "A dickhead."

I'm in Lichfield....but it wasn't me!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: davelodwig on March 21, 2016, 08:22:51 pm
Yes I know the towpath is closed, but that doesn't mean you can propel your electric assist bike along the pavement and almost knock me down as the pair of you zoom round the corner.

I'd have shouted but I was too busy giggling at the fact you had all the kit, bibs, clipless shoes, shoe covers, bright yellow jacket, helmet, bright yellow helmet cover, and then rode on the pavement.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on April 02, 2016, 04:50:58 pm
Special award for the bloke I saw receiving the attention of two (count 'em) police cars today.

He was on the M45 thobut, going towards the M1. There is nowhere, but nowhere to go but the M1 from where he was, and he would have already have ridden some 6 miles on motorway, with only about 1 to go before the M1.

Looked like a nice bike and expensive lycra, couldn't see any ideas in evidence  ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hellymedic on April 02, 2016, 05:00:08 pm
I blame a meatware error onthe SatNav...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on April 02, 2016, 05:51:16 pm
What lane was he in ?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SoreTween on April 03, 2016, 10:04:35 am
Bit late but I nominate me last Monday. Trying to get to the ASB at some lights where there's no bike filter lane I failed to fit between two cars and hit the wing mirror of one. Cue much apologising.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on April 07, 2016, 01:47:44 pm
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/cyclist-caught-trying-to-ride-to-heathrow-on-hard-shoulder-of-m25-a3219881.html

hahahaha!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Torslanda on April 10, 2016, 08:50:40 am
Erm . . . Me. Last week.

Center Parcs supply hire hire bikes with a horseshoe type lock on the rear triangle. I stopped, locked the bike, went to the shop and came out again to find that there was nowhere in the lock for the key to fit. Cue searching of pockets and the ground near the bike for a missing lock barrel. Ended up pushing/ carrying the bike back to the villa before the youngest pointed out I was looking on the wrong side of the bike  . . .

What is it I do for a living, again?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on April 11, 2016, 02:14:32 pm
Erm . . . Me. Last week.

Center Parcs supply hire hire bikes with a horseshoe type lock on the rear triangle. I stopped, locked the bike, went to the shop and came out again to find that there was nowhere in the lock for the key to fit. Cue searching of pockets and the ground near the bike for a missing lock barrel. Ended up pushing/ carrying the bike back to the villa before the youngest pointed out I was looking on the wrong side of the bike  . . .

What is it I do for a living, again?

Good question Tors my old mate ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SoreTween on May 01, 2016, 07:08:27 pm
That would be Mr all-the-gear-little-idea on the Wye Valle Wiggle Sportive getting shirty with me today.  Wave your arms all you like pal, I am NOT going to overtake you round the outside of a bend.  I'm out near the centre line , you're hugging the gutter.  I can see a great deal further round the corner than you and it isn't enough. So flap your arms all you wish mate, you're just wasting a little bit of the energy you seem short of.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Wycombewheeler on June 03, 2016, 10:59:20 pm
Yoof on a BMX, only means of braking appeared to be rubbing th sole of his shoe on the tarmac, riding down an 8% hill on a busy dual carriageway. Shot between the lanes of cares at the bottom, didn't stop at the roundabout.

Unbelievable, luckily no one turning right across his path.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ruthie on June 14, 2016, 09:36:23 pm
This dick  >:(

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/pedestrian-badly-hurt-after-car-flips-on-to-pavement-a7081646.html
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on June 14, 2016, 10:03:23 pm
That's a VERY naughty car
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on June 15, 2016, 07:17:32 am
I rather thought this thread was for examples of cyclists' ineptitude and the 'Today's Motorised Moron' thread was for drivers of motorised vehicles.

Or have I got that wrong ?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ruthie on June 15, 2016, 08:31:27 am
I rather thought this thread was for examples of cyclists' ineptitude and the 'Today's Motorised Moron' thread was for drivers of motorised vehicles.

Or have I got that wrong ?

I do believe you're right.  Apologies.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on June 15, 2016, 09:15:51 am
Sorry, displaying sam-like tendencies there.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on June 27, 2016, 08:13:56 pm
Perhaps not quite DOTD but certainly a bit stupid. Me. Coming from here (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5327811,-2.5704732,3a,75y,90h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOqtk6STHOJXPhGxQ5sJO6g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1) and wanting to go straight on, there was a bus coming from left as I circulated the roundabout so I gave a nice big left turn signal and... well, use streetview and you'll see!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 29, 2016, 09:33:32 am
The thicko arsehole who swore at the pedestrian (calling her a 'stupid bitch') for daring to be in front of him when he wanted to cycle along the pavement. Then stopped 10 feet further on to complain to his mates about his flat front tyre.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Redlight on July 06, 2016, 02:13:53 pm
Nominating this one for DOTY (year)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CGP0MhcRvE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CGP0MhcRvE)

Thank goodness the guy on the hire bike managed to regain control.  The other bastard didn't even glance back.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on July 06, 2016, 02:21:29 pm
That roadie gets the C Bomb dropped on him good and proper :demon:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on July 06, 2016, 02:38:32 pm
Were the others intending to chase the DOTY down?
Some good driving from the lorry driver there.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on July 06, 2016, 02:54:27 pm
Truly shocking.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on July 06, 2016, 03:04:48 pm

Some good driving from the lorry driver there.

Bit close for an overtake, but that stupid farty blue paint channels you.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: nicknack on July 27, 2016, 09:41:48 pm
Aren't there a lot of knobs on bikes in Cambridge? Far too many to nominate.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Reg.T on August 16, 2016, 04:25:11 pm
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/56557612/IMG_20160816_144851.jpg)

What sort of idiot rides a single speed with just a back brake?
And what special kind of DOTD then has their child sit on the top tube?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: davelodwig on August 16, 2016, 04:42:15 pm
The complete nob jockey this morning on the electric bike.

Tiny Cotswold village (painswick), I was waiting at the traffic lights to go through the narrow one way section.

He jumped onto the barely wide for a person pedestrian pavement, barely in control of the bike, blew through the lights, and then hopped of the pavement into the path of oncoming traffic squeezing pasts.

Thank god it's the summer holidays the place is normally packed with traffic.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on August 17, 2016, 10:14:12 am
Would be me yesterday evening  :-[

Down hill approach to a two lane roundabout with three arms and good site lines, I am entering at 6 o'clock and exiting at 1 o'clock. Vehicle (grey civic) enters from 9 o'clock indicating right suggesting exiting at my entrance. Vehicle (red fiesta) from 1 o'clock enters behind it also indicating right but no problem I have the timing to enter in front of him.

Unfortunately the civic didn't exit but lapped the roundabout, still no problem I have the timing to enter the gap between it and the fiesta.

Now comes the dotd moment. As I committed to entering the roundabout I suddenly realised that along with the fiesta a third vehicle (grey S2000) had entered the roundabout but stayed in lane 1 while turning right and not indicating. My timing is all wrong to avoid him and despite breaking hard I couldn't stop before the line. Fortunately the S2000 had seen me coming and stopped to let me recover.

I should have known better as there are a lot of people who go right in lane 1 on that roundabout.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on August 31, 2016, 01:36:47 pm

Guy who rounded the blind bend at speed on the wrong side of the road.   Luckily I'd slowed down and tucked right in as I usually do.  It's a single vehicle width passage and I am always prepared for a car to be rat running at speed.  This time it was a cyclist.  He did apologise so I left it at that.  If he'd met a car instead of me he wouldn't have been in a fit state to apologise.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Wascally Weasel on September 02, 2016, 09:48:46 am
Yesterday heading west on the Upper Richmond Road, bloke ahead of me almost crashed into another car crossing the junction at the foot of Putney Hill.

He was texting, not wearing a seatbelt and had a Yorkshire terrier on his lap.  The complete dick.

Blue Honda, reg: V648 DLL
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Wowbagger on September 02, 2016, 09:51:36 am
I expect the Yorkshire Terrier was driving.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on September 02, 2016, 11:25:38 am
Yesterday ...
Blue Honda, reg: V648 DLL

Oi, you can't bring that thing down here!


(http://www.nzta.govt.nz/assets/resources/traffic-control-devices-manual/sign-specifications/images/r04-10-nolabels.gif)

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Hattyfatner on September 02, 2016, 10:34:46 pm
Nearly got sideswiped by a grey Mercedes tailgating a red Seat both passed with only a couple of cm to spare.
To cheer myself up after work went to gwhizz cycles and test rode mountain bikes for a while.
Hope the next 195 commutes aren't as hairy...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on September 03, 2016, 04:43:13 pm
Coming back into town (soaked and rather k-nackered) was overtaken fast by a sporty looking guy on a very nice SOTA machine.  Next thing he gets stopped by a car giving way to oncoming traffic.  Rather than slow his impressive progress he hops onto the pavement only to be encountered by a newspaper boy coming t'other way and having to slammmm!!!! on the anchors anyway.   At least he hadn't rlj'd when I next saw him a mile further on.   
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on September 05, 2016, 08:26:41 am
Would have been me on the homeward commute on Friday.

Descending a bit of single track (KoM hunting :-[ ) and realised I was progressing a hit too quick for an approaching section. Applied a little bit of brake which turned out to be too much. Rear wheel started to slide out to the left and I thought "Ooops, I'm gonna fall off the hill in a second" but I soon relaxed as I saw there was a tree between me and the impending fall. "Oh Fuck! Tree!"1 thinks I and released the rear brake, starting to straighten up. Too late, rear wheel impacts tree and stops me dead. I then hear the sound of something reasonably substantial rolling down the hill through the leaf litter. Thinking I had killed the bike, I examine it until I realised that the bike aint'nt dead but the tree is ;D

1 It is amazing what can go through your mind in a small moment of time when things are progressing rapidly in a painful direction.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Dman01 on September 07, 2016, 12:59:25 pm
I recently spent a couple of weeks working in Amsterdam rather naively expecting it to be a paradise of polite cycling but there were definitely several keen nominees for DOTD out there.  Top of the list seems to be riding the wrong way down a bike lane and aggressively shouldering everyone out of the way rather than tucking in
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Vince on September 07, 2016, 06:40:22 pm
Normal for Hamsterjam
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tiermat on September 25, 2016, 02:07:15 pm
I'll nominate the lady onna bike who rode straight out of a T junction in front of me, earlier. A 2 second wait would have given her a totally clear road, with no need to wobble all over the place, like she did!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on September 28, 2016, 08:33:43 am
It's that time of the year again. On my way to the pub at just after 7 last night. The sun hadn't been gone long enough for it to be anywhere close to dark, just a bit gloomy under the trees. AAARGHH!!! MY EYES! MY EYES!!1!! MTB-er comes the other way with a searingly-bright eyeball-DETH-inflicting head torch. No other lights front or rear, just this thing he'd stolen from Anti-Aircraft Command strapped to his head.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on September 28, 2016, 08:36:14 am
He'd probably been waiting to play with his new light for months.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on September 28, 2016, 12:46:41 pm
Properly laughed out loud there!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on October 03, 2016, 09:45:05 am
A nomination for the Doris Bike rider westbound at Aldgate, in the left hand cycle lane.

He stopped, which I thought was odd - he didn't look the type if you know what I mean (No, I wasn't judging on appearances, he had previous) The thing you need to know about that bit there is that (a) the bike lane is a little tedious if you are going straight ahead, as it is red through the complete motorised green to protect you against left turning vehicles, but it does that well (b) there is a right turn filter as part of the motorised green sequence Streetview (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5153399,-0.0713539,3a,75y,270h,89.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2ACaEnYILlkNFicOqxYoBw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) if that sounds too complicated. I turn left,  but I'm happy to exchange a few seconds for safety at one of the junctions I thought could never be made safe.

Anyhow, the right motorised traffic  filter turns green, and this bloke sets off from the red cycle lane light across the traffic to turn right! ...... :facepalm:

The thing that made it so memorable for me? That he had a paper bag dangling from the handlebars. That had printed on it "Le Coq Spoprtif"  ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mattc on October 03, 2016, 10:38:15 am
It's that time of the year again. On my way to the pub at just after 7 last night. The sun hadn't been gone long enough for it to be anywhere close to dark, just a bit gloomy under the trees. AAARGHH!!! MY EYES! MY EYES!!1!! MTB-er comes the other way with a searingly-bright eyeball-DETH-inflicting head torch. No other lights front or rear, just this thing he'd stolen from Anti-Aircraft Command strapped to his head.
Amen to that.

I can deal with cycling in the dark and cold of winter - it's less fun than summer, but I can deal with it.

It's the other f****** cyclists that make it such a ball-ache.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 03, 2016, 10:51:00 am
A nomination for the Doris Bike rider westbound at Aldgate, in the left hand cycle lane.

He stopped, which I thought was odd - he didn't look the type if you know what I mean (No, I wasn't judging on appearances, he had previous) The thing you need to know about that bit there is that (a) the bike lane is a little tedious if you are going straight ahead, as it is red through the complete motorised green to protect you against left turning vehicles, but it does that well (b) there is a right turn filter as part of the motorised green sequence Streetview (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5153399,-0.0713539,3a,75y,270h,89.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2ACaEnYILlkNFicOqxYoBw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) if that sounds too complicated. I turn left,  but I'm happy to exchange a few seconds for safety at one of the junctions I thought could never be made safe.

Anyhow, the right motorised traffic  filter turns green, and this bloke sets off from the red cycle lane light across the traffic to turn right! ...... :facepalm:
So how are you supposed to turn right there? I presume from a combination of Streetview and your description that after the right motorised traffic filter green, or at some point, there is an all-directions cycling green. It's not exactly clear though, nor is it clear if you've never encountered such a thing that the cycling green will not require you to give way to/coincide with someone else's green as well.
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The thing that made it so memorable for me? That he had a paper bag dangling from the handlebars. That had printed on it "Le Coq Spoprtif"  ;D
:D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on October 03, 2016, 10:51:50 am
I got my first retinal searing of the season on Friday. By Waterloo at about 5.45pm. Still fucking daylight and he's lit up like bloody airliner. I dunno, maybe he was trying to confuse any laser-guided munitions aimed at him. I can see why someone would want to.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on October 03, 2016, 04:25:17 pm
A nomination for the Doris Bike rider westbound at Aldgate, in the left hand cycle lane.

He stopped, which I thought was odd - he didn't look the type if you know what I mean (No, I wasn't judging on appearances, he had previous) The thing you need to know about that bit there is that (a) the bike lane is a little tedious if you are going straight ahead, as it is red through the complete motorised green to protect you against left turning vehicles, but it does that well (b) there is a right turn filter as part of the motorised green sequence Streetview (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5153399,-0.0713539,3a,75y,270h,89.31t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2ACaEnYILlkNFicOqxYoBw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) if that sounds too complicated. I turn left,  but I'm happy to exchange a few seconds for safety at one of the junctions I thought could never be made safe.

Anyhow, the right motorised traffic  filter turns green, and this bloke sets off from the red cycle lane light across the traffic to turn right! ...... :facepalm:
So how are you supposed to turn right there? I presume from a combination of Streetview and your description that after the right motorised traffic filter green, or at some point, there is an all-directions cycling green. It's not exactly clear though, nor is it clear if you've never encountered such a thing that the cycling green will not require you to give way to/coincide with someone else's green as well.
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The thing that made it so memorable for me? That he had a paper bag dangling from the handlebars. That had printed on it "Le Coq Spoprtif"  ;D
:D

There is a right hand filter lane, the traffic signs are quite clear but you do have to look at them.

And yes, I can believe it is confusing, but the appropriate method of coping is not likely to be be riding across a line of traffic not expecting you to do the same.

That whole segment was that bad I seriously couldn't believe it could be made safe for cycling, there have been many accidents in the past, some fatal. To do it, the whole one way motor centric traffic flow was ripped up and thrown away, a lane was taken away from the  motorised and converted, this junction put in place to protect against left turn lorries, and other stuff. Fucking amazing. Ten years ago it would have been an impossible dream. Still remains that you can't protect against TEH STOOPID, this area appears to bring it out in the cyclist.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 03, 2016, 05:05:16 pm
I think the right-hand filter lane is for cars (etc) though. I was simply wondering about the correct procedure for turning right on a bike, not suggesting it should be done by jumping the light. Anyway, I've just had another look at the Streetview from a different position and seen the blue paint leading off at a curve to the right, so clearly it is allowed on the green bike.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on October 03, 2016, 07:37:54 pm
Yes, indeed. There is also an ASL in the right turn lane which is what 99% of people turning right use, positioning into it is easy (relatively speaking) ETA - I Thought there was an ASL - must remember to look properly, there may not be
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mike on October 04, 2016, 09:21:36 am
Yesterdays adrenalin-generating experience was at the top of Drury Lane when a big-minibus-sized german tourist bus pulled up beside me at some red lights (me in the middle of the left lane, him in the right lane) and *then* he started indicating left. 

I was ready for it, so when the lights went green and he pulled across in front of me I'd already stopped, and I gave the side of his bus an almighty slap.  He slammed to a halt, saw me in the mirror and **then moved off again** seemingly determined to ignore me.  I slapped the window this time, getting a scream out of the elderly tourist behind the glass.  He stopped again, I rode round to the front of the bus, stopped to gave him a friendly wave, then rode off.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on October 04, 2016, 11:58:38 am
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/mother-of-two-fell-off-bike-and-died-moments-after-taking-this-selfie-a3360441.html

I have a serious problem with this. Why is it up to the government ? Surely the lady has to have some self-restraint and keep her bloody hands on the handlebars. Especially at nights! I am sad to hear that she was also not wearing a helmet but it shouldn't take a law to have some common sense.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Canardly on October 04, 2016, 12:01:29 pm
All those plonkers viewing broken white lines at roundabouts as 'accelerate now' instructions.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on October 04, 2016, 12:08:17 pm
The Greenway. 9:45 pee em. The junction with the underpass, where there would be a streetlight had the caahncil actually bothered to cut back the tree that has grown around it, preventing any light at all from reaching the ground

SQUEAL
of brakes*

Me (to darkly-clad peds in the inky blackness): Do you usually wander into the road without looking?
Darkly-clad ped 1 (male): We didn't hear any cars :facepalm:
Me: I'm not driving a car, am I.
Darkly-clad ped 2 (female): Oh...Er. Oh... Sorry
Me (moving off): It's just as well one of us is awake. Isn't it.
 ::-)

I don't want to crash into pedestrians. It might damage my front wheel.


*My front brake makes horrendously squealy noises at low speed. It's dead good :thumbsup:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 04, 2016, 01:13:11 pm
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/mother-of-two-fell-off-bike-and-died-moments-after-taking-this-selfie-a3360441.html

I have a serious problem with this. Why is it up to the government ? Surely the lady has to have some self-restraint and keep her bloody hands on the handlebars. Especially at nights! I am sad to hear that she was also not wearing a helmet but it shouldn't take a law to have some common sense.
Urging the government to compel cyclists to wear helmets is a lot easier than urging them to make cyclists (or drivers) use common sense and a lot easier than urging them to keep the roads smooth.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on October 04, 2016, 01:17:49 pm
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/mother-of-two-fell-off-bike-and-died-moments-after-taking-this-selfie-a3360441.html

I have a serious problem with this. Why is it up to the government ? Surely the lady has to have some self-restraint and keep her bloody hands on the handlebars. Especially at nights! I am sad to hear that she was also not wearing a helmet but it shouldn't take a law to have some common sense.
Urging the government to compel cyclists to wear helmets is a lot easier than urging them to make cyclists (or drivers) use common sense and a lot easier than urging them to keep the roads smooth.

Sadly true but also I have come off my bike on unbelievably smooth roads in Mallorca so that's not entirely true and I was glad to have a helmet on. Despite what roads we are riding on, helmets should be the first thought on a cyclist mind and not because we're told to by the law.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tom_e on October 04, 2016, 01:43:26 pm
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/mother-of-two-fell-off-bike-and-died-moments-after-taking-this-selfie-a3360441.html

I have a serious problem with this. Why is it up to the government ? Surely the lady has to have some self-restraint and keep her bloody hands on the handlebars. Especially at nights! I am sad to hear that she was also not wearing a helmet but it shouldn't take a law to have some common sense.
Urging the government to compel cyclists to wear helmets is a lot easier than urging them to make cyclists (or drivers) use common sense and a lot easier than urging them to keep the roads smooth.

Sadly true but also I have come off my bike on unbelievably smooth roads in Mallorca so that's not entirely true and I was glad to have a helmet on. Despite what roads we are riding on, helmets should be the first thought on a cyclist mind and not because we're told to by the law.

Hmm, there's a reason why we have a helmet forum, isn't there?  Despite the fact I usually wear one, I can't agree that they should be the first thought at all.  I've ridden back from the pub enough times to confirm it is substantially more hazardous, per mile, than my normal commute.  Come to think of it, I think walking from the pub might be more hazardous too.  Maybe alcohol is the ...  no, no, that can't be it.  Selfie, cyclist, helmet, those are the buzzwords.  Not alcohol.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on October 04, 2016, 01:47:00 pm
Are we automatically assuming that everyone that goes to a pub has ingested some alcohol It hasn't said anything in the article. Granted newsies usually leave a key piece of information out but until proven otherwise, I'll give the group the benefit of the doubt. Yes, drinking and riding not to be encouraged.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on October 24, 2016, 02:00:11 pm
It's half-term.  This may explain the cyclist that I encountered who came at me head on with her eyes on the front wheel.  She was putting a lot of welly into overtaking other cyclists who were overtaking pedestrians and using my side of the road to do it.

The odd thing was her look of of indignation that I'd rung my bell to avoid a nasty collision.  Even if I'd just stopped she'd have had to run into someone.  I'd preferred it not to be me.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on October 24, 2016, 03:11:34 pm
It's the TdF effect.  Causes a sudden fixation with one's stem.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ElyDave on October 24, 2016, 04:40:32 pm
can I nominate the pedestrian who stepped out in front of my landrover on Ely high street without looking.  Not that you can't hear a landrover on the high street from where I fire it up three miles away.

he looked very surprised at the sharp blast of the hooter  ;D

And yes, I had spotted him and was already prepared to brake.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on October 24, 2016, 05:17:35 pm
Well yesterday that would be me  :-[

As is normal when I am going to Bloomsbury Central Baptist Church I come out of Waterloo station, ride over the bridge, up Drury Lane, left onto High Holborn and then a highly irregular right onto Shaftsbury Avenue. Well I got two things wrong.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: woollypigs on October 30, 2016, 08:57:04 pm
More a sillycyclist. A lady pulls out from a side road, without setting her pedal, so is scooting along, 4-5 times, trying to get up and over a hill/bridge I'm approaching. When she started to set off I was about 150 yards away and the road was clear for her to do her manoeuvre. But I catch her up on top of the hill/bridge, when she is then wobbling trying to put her hand out and look over her shoulder to signal that she is doing the same turn as me. I had pulled out to take the lane, and to stop numpties trying to overtake on the hill/bridge. I know one day someone is going to do it but as of yet nobody has, as it is in town and a blind bridge and locals know that there is a turn just past the peak.

If she only had set her pedal, she would have cleared the bridge and done the turn before I would have arrived to the peak of the hill/bridge.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on October 31, 2016, 08:31:08 am
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/mother-of-two-fell-off-bike-and-died-moments-after-taking-this-selfie-a3360441.html

I have a serious problem with this. Why is it up to the government ? Surely the lady has to have some self-restraint and keep her bloody hands on the handlebars. Especially at nights! I am sad to hear that she was also not wearing a helmet but it shouldn't take a law to have some common sense.
Urging the government to compel cyclists to wear helmets is a lot easier than urging them to make cyclists (or drivers) use common sense and a lot easier than urging them to keep the roads smooth.

Had she been wearing a helmet she's unlikely to have wanted to take a picture  of herself. 

But maybe they should ban selfies in dangerous circumstances just as we have an effective ban on motorists using mobiles.  Doing organised rides I have seen people taking selfies on fast descents.  I don't like them doing it riding in front of me, that's for sure. 
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on November 01, 2016, 09:32:49 am
I nominate the Person with a bike who was getting on the train last night (I forget which station). I'd boarded at Edinburgh with my son's bike.

DOTD got on train with bike, east coast mainline train, and just left bike in coast vestibule. They had booked bike space. They abandoned bike in coach vestibule. They then didn't respond to messages (multiple, multiple message) over tannoy for the next 3 minutes, asking them to return to the platform outside coach B, so their bike could be put in the bike storage.

Train delayed by 15 minutes because of DOTD.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on November 04, 2016, 06:13:38 am
From yesterday morning.

Single speed? Check. Trendy canvas backpack? Check. Beard? No. Helmet? Bern, so that will protect against anything.

In the cycle lane westbound at aldgate (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5153399,-0.0713539,3a,75y,212.84h,60.28t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s2ACaEnYILlkNFicOqxYoBw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Motorised traffic has green for straight ahead and left turn. A very large dump truck is in the left/ahead lane to our right but stationary as there is traffic blocking. This Darwin Award Chaser decides waiting in the cycle lane isn't for him, shuffles the dividing kerb and rides up the inside of the truck as he wants to go straight ahead. Traffic did clear in front of the truck during this operation, but - unlike a second truck a little later - this driver chose to stay where he was. Just as well as he really would have known nothing about this bike. 50-50 call for 10 seconds, great move  :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on November 04, 2016, 08:34:58 am
Streetview shows some impressive skid marks on the blue paint there.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on November 14, 2016, 06:27:59 pm
Um, that would be me.
Colleague lent me his new front light to try out on the commute home (he only cycle commutes once or twice a week).
In the excitement of fitting and playing with the new front light, I neglected to turn on the back ones until I was nearly home.

 :-[ :-[
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Canardly on November 14, 2016, 07:58:33 pm
Cyclist on very dark stretch of downhill main road with tree canopy near home, 7pm 'ish. No lights at all, hands off bars, earphones, weaving about. Gave him a couple of blasts on the horn before overtaking and then discovered had police car behind me which then put on blues and pulled him up. Hopefully they gave him a bollocking and a set of lights (local campaign). What are these kids thinking, lights are cheap as chips at the bottom end?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SoreTween on November 14, 2016, 08:53:38 pm
Similar.  Instant reaction was to launch expletives at the car that pulled out from the kerb in front of the cyclist, both travelling in the opposite direction to me tonight.  It registered a few yards later that actually the illumination through the power button of this laptop is brighter than said cyclists front light.  You sir are a royal plonker and so to a marginally lesser extent am I.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: pumpkin on November 16, 2016, 09:13:54 pm
Partially me and partially the youth on bike I nearly buried under the car the other evening. After putting my bike in the car after the commute and collecting my wife from the tram station (she normally cycles) we were heading home and used a side road to bypass the traffic. The sideroad comes to a B road but isn't marked Give Way but often you need to stop. I check to my right as I slow down to turn left and nothing is coming so I am about to keep moving and my wife shout 'STOP'. I did and there is ninja youth right in the cross hairs. No lights, nothing. I just didn't see him. He swears and keeps moving. I pass him, look in my mirror and he just becomes invisible again. I should have stopped and given him a light off my bike.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SoreTween on December 05, 2016, 08:57:21 pm
Funny old day.  No motons out, even a couple of borderline TNAR events and..

1) Having overtaken a cyclist (loads of room, no issues at all) about 80 meters further up the road I slow for a ped on a zebra R to L. I'm in the middle of the lane moving at minimum speed with my left arm out as I'm turning a couple of meters past the crossing.  Same cyclist comes past on my left not having slowed at all, just missing my arm and pretty darn close to the ped who still has one foot on the crossing.
2) Just around the corner of the left turn full ninja.  All black gear, no lights at all and not even a single reflective spot on him.  Relying on the white frame to be seen I guess.
3) I followed a cyclist up a small incline with a reasonable red blinky on his seatpost and a fairly vicious white light on the back of his head.

Wierd day.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: caerau on December 06, 2016, 08:30:15 pm
The tool who locked their bike to mine outside work today.

I have returned the favour witha nice thankyou note.

I shall be removing mine tomorrow and if their's isn't I shall be getting security to do it. >:(
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: caerau on December 07, 2016, 11:35:26 am
Note gone and their lock re-locked in a more appropriate manner this morning.  An apology wouldn't have gone amiss seeing as it cost me about £20 in taxi and bus fares (left contact details on my polite note on their bike).


I feel in no especial hurry to remove my locks from their bike now and am somewhat tempted to leave their's locked up another night with one of mine....


... but I guess I should be a little more adult than that.


Mostly I'm relieved mine is still there as it had occurred to me when I left that this might be a sneaky tactic to thieve mine - come back in the night and cut my locks open.  Indeed I read once home that this is in fact a commonly used method.  Fortunately and gratifyingly not the case.  Just extreme muppetry.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on December 09, 2016, 08:23:35 am
The tool who locked their bike to mine outside work today.

I have returned the favour witha nice thankyou note.

I shall be removing mine tomorrow and if their's isn't I shall be getting security to do it. >:(

I thought at first you meant you had then placed your own lock round both bikes!  As well as the thank you note.

Best to check saddle heights first.  If their's is much higher than yours you need to be wary..
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: caerau on December 09, 2016, 02:11:40 pm
I did.


I am a big burly bloke.  The other bike was a pink glittery small MTB.


Anyway, I don't care.  I hope they learned the lesson to bloody well pay attention to how you lock your bike up.  They owe me about £20 in taxi and bus fares if I was to really get arsey about it.  Plus I spent all night having trouble sleeping as I was worried it was a ploy to thieve my bike.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on December 15, 2016, 09:45:02 am
Every f*cking morning for the last 3 mornings I cross a pedestrian crossing and the same cyclist has sailed through the red light, about 4" behind me. I'm really tempted to step backwards into them.

It's early in the morning, the road is empty. Would it really cost them so much to stop for red?

Oh and add the person on Monday, who at 6:30am, with the road nearly empty, found it necessary to ride up on the pavement, continue on the pavement in front of the rail station past all the bus stops (weaving at speed past the people waiting for buses) then rejoin the road once they were past the station? The road was empty.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on December 15, 2016, 12:40:13 pm
Every f*cking morning for the last 3 mornings I cross a pedestrian crossing and the same cyclist has sailed through the red light, about 4" behind me. I'm really tempted to step backwards into them.

It's early in the morning, the road is empty. Would it really cost them so much to stop for red?

Oh and add the person on Monday, who at 6:30am, with the road nearly empty, found it necessary to ride up on the pavement, continue on the pavement in front of the rail station past all the bus stops (weaving at speed past the people waiting for buses) then rejoin the road once they were past the station? The road was empty.

Apparently it not illegal to go behind the person so I've read but yes stopping would be a better option.
EDIT: I am the div. Didn't read the red light.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: orienteer on December 15, 2016, 12:49:09 pm
It's illegal to pass a red light.

I think I would be tempted to carry an umbrella which might accidently go into someone's wheel...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on December 15, 2016, 01:37:22 pm
Last evening about 19:15*, just about here (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5209787,-0.0927936,3a,75y,78.17h,74.09t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1scYj4ae62T_HN93d5Z6H9OQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). We (anyone who was cycling) had just had to contend with the Addison Lee method of passenger dropping - stop in the middle of the road and have the passenger open the door to block the cycle lane  :facepalm:, and were riding in traffic up to the zebra. I wasn't going particularly fast, maybe a little faster than dead slow as a result of the annoyance, but ready to stop. As I came up the inside to the zebra, as expected, people crossing from the right so I stop. And was rear ended (by a girl who had a few yards earlier pulled out from the left without stopping forcing me right).

"Sorry", she said "but you stopped unexpectedly"

I waved expansively at the zebra

"I know" she continued "but it was without warning"  :facepalm: ;D ::-)

I just laughed.

*very relevant given its proximity to the Barbican and the consequent density of peds.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on December 19, 2016, 09:32:58 pm
Ok, today it was me  :-[

There's this shared cyclepath on the other side of the road which I'd crossed over to use.  It's covered in leaf mould and stuff and at one point it crosses the entrance to a car park.  Cars have to climb a steep ramp to exit the park and visibilty is poor.  There are give way lines both for bicycles and cars but they are barely visible under the muck*.  Due to big building works it is in fact used by vans almost exclusively -  they tend to park up in the morning and leave at end of day.

Me, trundling along, forgot to look properly and this van was coming up the ramp quite quickly.  No way I could brake in time and so I was very relieved when the van managed to do so before crossing my path!  I cycled on in a state of mild shock and then stopped to see how the van was doing.  He'd obviously paused to recover and as he passed I waved in appreciation of his reflexes and he waved back.

I usually ride defensively was very annoyed at myself for the lapse.

* went back today and there is a large red notice on the ramp which says 'Cycle Track Crossing, Look both Left and Right'.
   
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on December 22, 2016, 08:04:08 am
Pedestrian Pushing a Bike Who May (or may not) Ride it as well as Push its Cyclist's near-miss with train  (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/38393823)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on December 22, 2016, 08:25:26 am
Hoods for the win...... Not.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on December 22, 2016, 12:47:34 pm
Hoods for the win...... Not.

Earphones must be blocking the approaching sound of a train that his addled brain confused with the train that just went past!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ElyDave on December 22, 2016, 03:25:56 pm
Cyclist's near-miss with train  (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/38393823)

I was just about to post that one.  HTF can you miss a train?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on December 22, 2016, 03:50:14 pm
Get out o bed too late- get stuck in traffic?

 :facepalm: You mean HTF can you miss the fact that a train is approaching?

 ;)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on December 22, 2016, 05:20:23 pm
Hoods for the win...... Not.

Earphones must be blocking the approaching sound of a train that his addled brain confused with the train that just went past!

Neither hoods nor earphones prevent safe use of a level crossing.  It's called not looking.  You know, like the drivers do.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: toestrap on December 22, 2016, 06:03:09 pm
I was expecting to see a person on a bicycle rather than a pedestrian pushing a bike.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ElyDave on December 22, 2016, 11:18:53 pm
Get out o bed too late- get stuck in traffic?

 :facepalm: You mean HTF can you miss the fact that a train is approaching?

 ;)

I've never not caught my intended train. It's called planning.

I've also never missed an approaching train, hence still alive and posting. :)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Tim Hall on December 23, 2016, 10:01:21 am
Hoods for the win...... Not.

Earphones must be blocking the approaching sound of a train that his addled brain confused with the train that just went past!

Neither hoods nor earphones prevent safe use of a level crossing.  It's called not looking.  You know, like the drivers do.

Add to that there's red and green lights on the approach, with clear instructions (Cross only when green light shows) of what to do.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: orienteer on December 23, 2016, 10:23:09 am
It's possible a train had just passed in the opposite direction. My father once saved a guy's life when he waved him back from the other side, and the guy started to cross without looking after the first train passed. The second train actually stopped just beyond before proceeding, the driver must have s**t himself seeing the guy start to cross (it was a steam loco, very restricted forward vision).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Vince on December 23, 2016, 11:18:14 am
I've also never missed hit an approaching train, hence still alive and posting. :)
FTFY :D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on December 23, 2016, 05:09:58 pm
Where I worked a railwayman lost both legs crossing the track in a shunting yard.  His foot caught in the points just as the loco approached. 

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on December 24, 2016, 06:16:10 pm
Pavement cyclist who nearly right-hooked me on the Raddlebarn Road by jumping off a kerb without looking at just the wrong moment in order to cross to a side-road on the other side.  Presumably my fault for having oil on my chain.

Judging by the fresh motorised damage to the local lamppost population, I'd say they were in good company.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on January 02, 2017, 06:36:50 pm
Complete moron sailed through a red light through a crossroads, looking to his left, crossing 4 lanes of traffic. Fortunately (as they were heading into the sun) the crossing cars were paying attention and braked to a halt rather than hitting him.

Utterly unbelievable, if one car (correctly travelling through a green light) hadn't hit their brakes and come to a complete halt, this moron would have been hamburger.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: delap on January 05, 2017, 02:11:00 pm
Artic coming down the A38 Bridgwater Road towards Barrow Gurney overtaking a cyclist (going well over 20mph) in a gap between two islands considerably shorter than the distance needed needed to clear him at about 0710 this morning.  Looked close when the driver opted to just move left rather than abort the overtake.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on January 05, 2017, 04:05:48 pm
The Motorised Moron thread is down there VVVV.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: handcyclist on January 05, 2017, 08:30:43 pm
Me today  ::-).

Mistimed my roll into an advanced stop box then had a clipped in moment as the lights went green.

Apologies to Mr Patient BMW driver as I rescued myself from 45 degrees to horizontal and limped to the pavement .....
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Tim Hall on January 05, 2017, 09:19:45 pm
So, a sunny January day. A great mass of people, dressed mainly in black, emerge from a church , outside of which a hearse is parked. It's a good bet that they've just been to a funeral and are feeling sad.  They walk up the narrow lane towards their parked cars.

A cyclist approaches the group. Does he

A. Slow down, think a little about how the other people are feeling?

B. Bellow "cyclist coming through" and attack the climb, weaving through the mourners?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on January 06, 2017, 08:20:27 am
So, a sunny January day. A great mass of people, dressed mainly in black, emerge from a church , outside of which a hearse is parked. It's a good bet that they've just been to a funeral and are feeling sad.  They walk up the narrow lane towards their parked cars.

A cyclist approaches the group. Does he

A. Slow down, think a little about how the other people are feeling?

B. Bellow "cyclist coming through" and attack the climb, weaving through the mourners?
The Super Twat thread is that way
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on January 06, 2017, 10:57:40 am
What a knob!.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on January 12, 2017, 10:16:42 am
Coming to this a bit late (catching up after my xmuss holibobs)

Cyclist's near-miss with train  (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/38393823)

I was just about to post that one.  HTF can you miss a train?

If you're forced to use Grant Palmer buses to get to Biggleswade station - very easily.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on January 14, 2017, 02:23:50 pm
Was trundling along the riverside cycle path at a reasonable pace and approaching to overtake a pedestrian who is keeping well to the left.  As there is loads of room and he is walking in a straight line I decide not to ring my bell.   70 metres further on, a dog walker has spotted me and suddenly starts to take early precautions.   Seeing this, the pedestrian suddenly decides to change sides just in front of me.  Why, when the dog walker is so far away, I don't know. 

I have to do a very quick emergency stop (Hard Brakesit?), the rear wheel skidding over the edge of the cycle path towards an early and very cold bath in the River Ouse.  But luckily I stay upright. The elderly Irishman I have just missed and the dog walker are so profusely (and needlessly?) apologetic I can only laugh it off.

Always ring the bell, I guess.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on January 17, 2017, 04:13:50 pm
Had you rung your bell, he would have moved to the right, stopped in hte centre, turned to look which way to go leaving you the only option to stop or take the 50:50. You know I'm right.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 17, 2017, 04:14:48 pm
Depends how early you ping.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on January 17, 2017, 10:47:03 pm
You can't win more than about a third of the time whatever you decide to do with your bell.

The best way to get pedestrians to act sensibly around cycles on shared paths is studded tyres, but they're not 100% reliable, and hardly worth fitting for that purpose alone.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on January 20, 2017, 06:42:34 pm
Riding through York station car park. I turn blind corner in car park, ahead of me a car has just pulled out of a space and is starting to drive towards me down a narrow space. I slow and move left.

"Woah" there is a shout and DOAB hits my left arm as he undertakes me shooting past.

doesn't apologise or slow

I catch them as they exit car park on far corner onto quiet street. They pull out onto street and ride down the right hand side of the street.

Yup, DOTD
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on January 20, 2017, 08:39:17 pm
Last night, coming out of the Law Society on Chancery Lane and walking down Fleet St to City Thameslink. Two people on Boris bikes, riding the same way, one on each side of the road. Yup: she couldn't see a gap in traffic to cross to her friend, so she rode the wrong way down the road until she could swing across to join him, and of course without a look over her shoulder.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on January 20, 2017, 09:10:42 pm
A sort of comedy slow-motion lemming:  Without looking, a pedestrian started to cross the road some distance in front of me, at a sedate pace.  I eased off accordingly.  As he got about halfway across he happened to glance in my direction, startled and made some sort of "Arrgh!" noise, in fitting with being mown down by a speeding lycra lout.  I shrugged and passed behind him at below 10mph with about 2 metres of clearance.

Probably a Bristol Post reader visiting Brum on holiday.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Basil on January 20, 2017, 09:50:09 pm
A sort of comedy slow-motion lemming:  Without looking, a pedestrian started to cross the road some distance in front of me, at a sedate pace.  I eased off accordingly.  As he got about halfway across he happened to glance in my direction, startled and made some sort of "Arrgh!" noise, in fitting with being mown down by a speeding lycra lout.  I shrugged and passed behind him at below 10mph with about 2 metres of clearance.

Probably a Bristol Post reader visiting Brum on holiday.

You hooligan, you.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on January 25, 2017, 08:24:02 am
Talking of (real)  'ooligans..

Had words with a fellow cyclist, on a SOTA mtb, dressed in full gear (the cyclist not the mtb ::-)).  Early 20s I'd say.

About to join the Knavesmire cycle track I waited for him to whizz past.  As he did so, he yelled loudly and aggressively at a woman walking her dogs:  "GET OUT OF MY WAY".   She had done nothing wrong, and I believe the cyclist had not spotted me watching. 

Once on the track I found my normal speed was enough to keep pace with him and when we met at a gate I said politely I thought his behaviour was unnecessary and got us all a bad name.  At that point he was joined by a mate and we carried on.  Our speeds being similar he gave me a tirade about the sins of dog walkers.  I find the dog walkers are generally considerate to cyclists so I told him that as it was a shared facility we had to live with that and that his behaviour was not helpful.  We left it there.

I doubt they were experienced mtbers judging by their roadcraft later.  Hopefully they will become less aggressive.         
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Torslanda on January 26, 2017, 12:38:39 am
...or dead.

Meanwhile, why would you try to ride 1700km home, from somewhere you don't know, without being able to read a map? What's the worst that could happen?

Well, you could ride 500km in the wrong direction (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-38748373).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on January 26, 2017, 08:29:06 am
...or dead.

Meanwhile, why would you try to ride 1700km home, from somewhere you don't know, without being able to read a map? What's the worst that could happen?

Well, you could ride 500km in the wrong direction (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-38748373).

Although DOTD occurred to me as an option, I posted that story under commuting.   Reason was that I have no idea what it's like being 'a young migrant worker' in China.  Or what I could do to find my way around!

When I was in Kenya we met a hotel worker who ran home.  It took him 12 hours and he did the two way journey every week and his route took him through the bush. He had no choice if he wanted to earn a wage.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on January 26, 2017, 11:34:46 am
I nominate the Santander bike rider who hit the bus I was on yesterday.

Bus was pulling in to a bus stop and moving very slowly, because there was already a bus in the stop. I think the bus was signalling.
Santander bike rider decided to undertake the bus, hit the side of the bus with his hand and banged into it with handlebars. Bus driver stopped completely (they were only doing about 5mph anyway) rider wobbled, finished the undertake, then tried to overtake the bus ahead that was signalling to pull out from the bus stop. I felt sorry for the driver.

Serious lemming behaviour.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: MikeFromLFE on February 13, 2017, 01:57:43 pm
This must be worth a prize in the DOTD competition:   http://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/watch-cyclist-captured-by-a-dashcam-faking-being-hit-by-a-car/story-30132169-detail/story.html
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: spindrift on February 13, 2017, 09:18:34 pm
Faker than a big fake thing.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Basil on February 13, 2017, 10:58:43 pm
Eh?  Is it me?  I don't actually see anything happen.  I don't actually see anything not happen either.  I don't get it.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Riggers on February 14, 2017, 08:41:27 am
Nor me Bazzer. It's a pathetic attempt at encouraging readership.

He compounds his DOTD by getting on his phone and then cycling off. Mis-titled too. It should be 'a person on a bicycle' not a cyclist.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jacomus on February 14, 2017, 09:31:27 pm
A hiviz Dr Evil tonight, shining a fikkin' laser at eye-height, angled into the oncoming lane. According to his frantic shaking of an invisible can of coffee beans when I put full beam on, I inferred that we weren't in fact playing "who can put out the most lumens" and instead he just thought that was a reasonable direction to point his fikkin' laser.  ::-)

In the mirrors, I noticed two other drivers behind me incorrectly guess the game too.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 14, 2017, 10:59:58 pm
We don't actually see who he's arguing with, and whatever it is he's arguing about has evidently happened some time before that clip begins. So we really don't know if anything happened or not, but it does look like some bloke getting shouty for the sake of it.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: delap on February 15, 2017, 09:01:15 am
Leicester Mercury cyclist

I don't get the hate for him.  When a cyclist confronts a motorist sitting at a side junction and claims that the motorist has hit him and with no independent evidence of what, if any, incident occurred, the balance of probabilities tells me that the motorist probably made a dick move at some point.  I would not be surprised to discover that the motorist genuinely feels that he did nothing wrong.  Who knows, the cyclist may share some responsibility but it isn't a stretch to imagine a motorist crossing a pavement at the exit to an indoor carpark*  cutting off or colliding with a cyclist

* here https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/52%C2%B046'28.5%22N+1%C2%B012'32.0%22W/@52.7745833,-1.2102354,341m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d52.774577!4d-1.208892 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/52%C2%B046'28.5%22N+1%C2%B012'32.0%22W/@52.7745833,-1.2102354,341m/data=!3m2!1e3!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d52.774577!4d-1.208892)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SoreTween on February 15, 2017, 09:22:12 pm
The bromptonista who rode straight across the crossing on red here (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.317827,-0.5608477,3a,75y,155.26h,66.83t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1seicH2ekxE4XH-nPOr88UNA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DeicH2ekxE4XH-nPOr88UNA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D330.3446%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656) tonight.  You are one lucky pillock.  Under normal circumstances in that 30mph limit you'd have been a bonnet ornament.  The circumstances are not normal because a) there's a temporary 20mph speed limit in place and b) the lady you rode straight out in front of was doing less than that.  I was putting in an effort to keep pace with said lady in order to not inconvenience the BMW behind me that had flashed me out.  My GPS shows I was doing 25.6kph.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: MikeFromLFE on May 04, 2017, 08:19:05 am
It's a while since we've had any DOTDs so I nominate hundreds of them.
This is distilled from a long rant that I decided not to post. I ended up purely by chance at the Lake Garda Cycling 'Festival' in Riva del Garda (Italy) on the Saturday of the Mayday weekend - we were travelling around by train & boat and Our itinerary and the bike event co-joined by fluke.
It was - by the looks of things - a well organised series of rides, talks, and events, and there was a splendid (free) trade show for everyone. The event seemed mainly targeted at Germans, and mainly at MTB riders. There were lots of fat bikes, e-MTBs, and 'normal' mountain bikes. I'm guessing there were a couple of thousand riders there.
But away from the festival rides themselves the riders were behaving like total hooligans. The town has a lot of pedestrian areas, many narrow alleys, and a lot of (non-bike) tourists. The riders - often in groups - were riding at speed through these with no considers for anyone. I saw an elderly French (?) bloke knocked over by a rider and then berated (almost attacked) for what had happened, toddlers reduced to tears, and old people seemingly frightened to leave park benches.
I was, in the end, ashamed to be associated with the world of cycling.


Tapatalk puts this signature here, not me!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si S on May 10, 2017, 09:22:05 am
Without doubt it was last night's Raphaman, head to toe RCC gear, who jumped a ridiculously late red here (https://goo.gl/maps/pLqbFyirdC62). He dodged round the traffic that was turning right from opposite which is what saved him I think, as he got a third of the way across and the A56 light went green I thought I was going to be phoning 999, the released traffic came within a whisker of wiping him out and he just managed to avoid the keep left bollard. Still can't believed he came out unscathed.

Got to be one of the all time stupidest bits of riding I've ever seen.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jakob W on May 10, 2017, 09:31:48 am
I wonder how Rapha would react if you emailed the club sec and pointed out their members were bringing the club into disrepute? AIUI in a traditional club that might cause a missive to go out to members to remember not to behave like twunts (or at least not when in club colours!).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si S on May 10, 2017, 09:40:38 am
Strava flyby is my friend, he knows how lucky and stupid he was. Staring at his Garmin apparently.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on May 12, 2017, 05:17:20 pm
A special, special award for a special person

http://road.cc/content/news/222486-video-cyclist-almost-hit-train-after-forcing-his-way-through-level-crossing
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: clarion on May 12, 2017, 08:56:35 pm
He seems to be somewhat intoxicated
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Zipperhead on May 12, 2017, 10:51:51 pm
When I used to commute that way in the mornings I saw the occasional roadie put on a sprint to get across there when the gates were coming down.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on June 17, 2017, 06:36:08 pm
I watched a cyclist on the London CS7 route (big blue strip to the left of the road) power past me up towards the inside of a car that was ahead, was slowing down, was indicating left, was ever so slowly incrementally making the left turn at a set of lights, and then the cyclist acted all surprised when the car finally made its manoeuvre. Cyclist went straight into the front passenger door and somehow bounced off and held it together with enough aplomb to get round the front of the car. Then hurled abuse at the driver. Moron.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on June 17, 2017, 06:46:06 pm
He seems to be somewhat intoxicated

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the train driver performed an emergency stop, meaning that the crossing became blocked and the man, whom he described as “very aggressive,” had to carry his bike over the footbridge.

The footbridge that is to the left, just out of shot  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on June 19, 2017, 10:58:28 am
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..the biggest problem here is that he's not wearing hi-viz or a helmet, both of which would have prevented this situation from occurring in the first place.

It almost goes without saying.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on June 19, 2017, 11:23:33 am
I think I fit into this category this morning. I was riding along and hearing no sirens but it turns out that an ambulance had followed behind me for a little while (don't know exactly how long) with its lights on. Just after overtaking me in a safe manner where the road widened a little, it turned right.

There were quite a lot of police cars and ambulances rushing about during this morning's commute, complete with 'blues-and-twos'.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: chris n on June 19, 2017, 11:42:16 am
I think I was one today too.  Overtook a chap on the old railway line into Bristol this morning and I obviously hadn't given him enough space.  I did apologise when he complained but could have been more polite. :-[
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fd3 on June 20, 2017, 12:52:20 pm
I think I fit into this category this morning. I was riding along and hearing no sirens but it turns out that an ambulance had followed behind me for a little while (don't know exactly how long) with its lights on. Just after overtaking me in a safe manner where the road widened a little, it turned right.
I disagree.  They have sirens for a reason and cyclists are not expected to have rear view mirrors.  If they rely on you to read between the lines - "oooh, is it me or was there a blue reflection in that window" and eschew turning the sirens on then they are not in that much of a rush.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jsabine on June 20, 2017, 03:29:02 pm
I think I fit into this category this morning. I was riding along and hearing no sirens but it turns out that an ambulance had followed behind me for a little while (don't know exactly how long) with its lights on. Just after overtaking me in a safe manner where the road widened a little, it turned right.
I disagree.  They have sirens for a reason and cyclists are not expected to have rear view mirrors.  If they rely on you to read between the lines - "oooh, is it me or was there a blue reflection in that window" and eschew turning the sirens on then they are not in that much of a rush.

Agreed. If they don't use the siren, then either you're not in their way or they're not in a hurry. Any time I've been trundling along quite happily on the bike, oblivious to the emergency vehicle behind me, it's only taken a quick whoop to encourage me to let them by.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Basil on June 20, 2017, 03:38:50 pm
it's only taken a quick whoop to encourage me to let them by.

Yes, but hopefully from a little way back.  I was once given the full blast from directly behind me.  I had no idea they were there.  It was extremely loud and I very nearly had a heart attack.  It took me a while before my heart rate and breathing returned to a level where I could carry on.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jsabine on June 20, 2017, 03:43:31 pm
it's only taken a quick whoop to encourage me to let them by.

Yes, but hopefully from a little way back.  I was once given the full blast from directly behind me.  I had no idea they were there.  It was extremely loud and I very nearly had a heart attack.  It took me a while before my heart rate and breathing returned to a level where I could carry on.

Sounds like they were trying to drum up business.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Basil on June 20, 2017, 03:52:54 pm
it's only taken a quick whoop to encourage me to let them by.

Yes, but hopefully from a little way back.  I was once given the full blast from directly behind me.  I had no idea they were there.  It was extremely loud and I very nearly had a heart attack.  It took me a while before my heart rate and breathing returned to a level where I could carry on.

Sounds like they were trying to drum up business.

 ;D
I can only assume they received a 'shout' right then and never thought about the difference between a car with heavy metal or opera pumping out at 11 and a cyclist with only 4 feet of air buffering between him and the horns.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on June 20, 2017, 04:16:23 pm
A simple problem. 

Cycling along the riverside track I encounter an oncoming cyclist.  Naturally I expect him to do what every one else does on that track and pass me on my right where there is plenty of space to pass safely.  But he doesn't, nor does he go to my left because I am right up to the edge, leaving him space the other side.  Eventually we halt and I say to him: "You know you should pass on that side?" Pointing to my right.  He doesn't say a word but cycles up the earth bank to my left and departs.

I guess I could have gone to pass him on the wrong side but it could easily have gone pear shaped if he'd done a late swerve like pedestrians dancing on a pavement.  Thinking about he was very much the sort of yoof to be found in York town centre pedestrian zone determined not to get off and walk and weaving in and out amongst the the crowd.   
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: essexian on July 10, 2017, 07:38:07 am
Now on charity events I don't expect the best riding standards as, well frankly a large percentage of riders are not "proper"* cyclists like me. However, there were two incidences yesterday on the Manchester to Blackpool ride which merits inclusion here; both happened at traffic lights.

Firstly... when you are slow and frankly have the bike handling skills of someone without any, please do not push to the front at every set of traffic lights, you only cause delays for faster riders and the traffic behind as we are forced to over take you time and time again. This was very noticeable earlier in the ride and did cause a pile up in Preston when they did not realise the road tipped up two a massive 2% sending the uncyclists into a panic as they tried to find a gear they could push or simply stopping in the middle of the road. One bloke did go down and I was lucky that I was able to unclip and stop before hitting him.

And then...when passing, pass on the right....that's what we are taught be it riding in a group or indeed driving a car. So, when again pushing off from a set of lights, a youth aged about 16 undertakes me forcing me and two club riders who were overtaking me into the live lane of traffic... trust me, I was not impressed. Less impressed was the youth when I caught up with him a 100 yards later and explained in shouty words what he had done wrong.


* I am a proper cyclist in the same way spray cream is real cream.... :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Zipperhead on July 10, 2017, 02:24:10 pm
They must have been London commuter cyclists having a day out.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: ian on July 10, 2017, 06:57:16 pm
Yes, that's CS7. People wobble to the front every time. Either the lycra boys who can't clip in or the generically clueless. In a country where pushing to the front of any queue is usually grounds for a savage tutting it's most peculiar behaviour.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Zipperhead on July 11, 2017, 06:17:51 pm
I try to cycle to work and back after the main rush hour, in part to reduce interactions with dangerous idiots on bicycles. It doesn't work entirely, but the last two journeys make me think that some people shouldn't be allowed out unless they're on a lead and have a handler.

Going home last night I came to a set of lights at a T junction, stopped in the ASL in the middle of the lane (I was turning right). The traffic light cycle is very long, so after a while another cyclist stopped to my left and a little behind. Not long before the light changed another one stopped alongside almost on the central white line. OK, I think, he's going right as well.

No, when the lights changed and we all pulled away he tried to turn left through me.

This morning, stopped in the ASL with a bunch of other cyclists, lights changed and off we go, a gap between me and the cyclist in front, another cyclist to my left. All happy, accelerating away, two gear changes done. All of a sudden a bicycle comes past on my right and turns left across the pair of us. Not a youngster, but from the glimpse I got as I exhaled "FUUUUUUCCK" he had grey hair under his helmet.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hatler on July 11, 2017, 09:29:58 pm
Yes, that's CS7. People wobble to the front every time. Either the lycra boys who can't clip in or the generically clueless. In a country where pushing to the front of any queue is usually grounds for a savage tutting it's most peculiar behaviour.
CS7. I now ride the length of that every day. There is no end of shocking cycling on display at almost every moment.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Redlight on July 13, 2017, 01:49:53 pm
Bonus points to the MAMIL whom I overtook in the car about 200 metres before a mini-roundabout this morning. As I approached the roundabout I turned on my left indicator because - you guessed it - I was intending to turn left.

Had to wait for a short while to let other traffic go, during which time Mr MAMIL sailed up my left side and stopped alongside me. I'm not sure why I chose to hold back a few seconds once there was a break in the traffic but I'm glad I did as Mr MAMIL then decided to turn right, without signalling  :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on July 24, 2017, 05:36:07 am
Last night, on the way to work, crossing a roundabout. Kid, about eleven, on and off the footpath, tried to ride straight off the edge and right across to the centre of the roundabout I was exiting. Looking left, of course.

I had already clocked him, so I had my left foot unclipped ready for an emergency stop, which duly came with him about a foot from my leg, alerted by my shouts of "WATCH!"

Which were followed by "Open your eyes and LOOK, son! If I had been in a car, you would be dead!"

I just hope something gets through his head before a car bonnet does.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SoreTween on July 25, 2017, 08:45:22 pm
Italians on bikes - all of them.  I've only been here 2 days and while seeing the thousands of POBs and hundreds of cyclists is cheering I've not yet seen a single one stop at a red light or pause when turning left across traffic. Glad I'm home tomorrow, my nerves cannae take any more.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on July 28, 2017, 04:53:41 pm
Dashcam shows young cyclist 'playing chicken' with car (http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-essex-40715685/dashcam-shows-young-cyclist-playing-chicken-with-car)

 ???
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on July 28, 2017, 05:18:23 pm
Dashcam shows young cyclist 'playing chicken' with car (http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-essex-40715685/dashcam-shows-young-cyclist-playing-chicken-with-car)

 ???

Teenagers.

Also looks like he's using his trainers as a brake.

Meanwhile, this guy's using his mudguard as a weapon (motorist then attempts to fight back with a golf stick): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-berkshire-40750855/slough-road-fight-cyclist-and-driver-filmed-brawling
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on July 28, 2017, 06:56:18 pm
Dashcam shows young cyclist 'playing chicken' with car (http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-england-essex-40715685/dashcam-shows-young-cyclist-playing-chicken-with-car)

 ???

Teenagers.

Also looks like he's using his trainers as a brake.

Meanwhile, this guy's using his mudguard as a weapon (motorist then attempts to fight back with a golf stick): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-berkshire-40750855/slough-road-fight-cyclist-and-driver-filmed-brawling

Come friendly bombs and fall on Slough..
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on July 28, 2017, 08:17:08 pm
I'm not sure that teenager is actually using his feet as brakes, I think he's just riding with his feet in the air for a bit of a laugh. His real crime, of course, is shown in the caption: "about 20 drivers were unable to get past."
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on August 04, 2017, 01:03:11 pm
Two this morning. Turned off main road to ride along residential street, 0500 hrs. Me in yellow and fully lit. Nearly hit BSO and POB on wrong side of the road, two feet from the kerb, dark clothing, no lights.

I get to the bus stop by Ashdown House, and another similar pairing comes out of the ped link, rides along the grass by the main road against traffic direction till the grass runs out, then hops onto the road and continues down the bus lane of a very busy dual carriageway (the one that goes under the airport) on the wrong side of the road.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: menthel on August 07, 2017, 01:33:16 pm
Yes, that's CS7. People wobble to the front every time. Either the lycra boys who can't clip in or the generically clueless. In a country where pushing to the front of any queue is usually grounds for a savage tutting it's most peculiar behaviour.
CS7. I now ride the length of that every day. There is no end of shocking cycling on display at almost every moment.

In my days as a CS7 regular, it was always the guys in the rugby socks and flat pedals on their Spesh Allez that were the biggest pain. That and the nutters in Tooting. Surprisingly it was neither of these that nearly put an end to me! ;)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Torslanda on August 07, 2017, 03:19:32 pm

Meanwhile, this guy's using his mudguard as a weapon (motorist then attempts to fight back with a golf stick): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-berkshire-40750855/slough-road-fight-cyclist-and-driver-filmed-brawling


Dear me, standards, people!

Enny fule no it should've been a Zefal HPX . . .
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Torslanda on August 14, 2017, 09:39:42 pm
Meanwhile in other news.

$cyclist has posted in a Facebook cycling group that she bought the wrong disc pads as they are 'the right shape but too thick'.

I haven't replied. I'm not going to. I despair. Really . . .
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on August 27, 2017, 08:44:33 am
An encounter with an 'all-the-gear-no-idea': lycra, racer, big on high viz. .  Day after Charlie Alliston verdict.

I'd passed him struggling up one of York's famous hills and then stopped at the red.  Before the green he arrived, nipped onto the pavement between the pedestrians and by-passed the lights.  After the green I passed him again and slowed to suggest that his RLJ-ing was giving cyclists a bad name.  I just caught 'but it's not..' before I moved on.  So I'll never know what it isn't. 'Illegal' possibly? 
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Torslanda on August 28, 2017, 10:59:13 am
This may have been down to a lack of clue but who rides their bike across a railway...?

road.cc (http://road.cc/content/news/228375-kent-cyclist-hospitalised-after-riding-across-live-rail)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on August 28, 2017, 11:54:10 am
This may have been down to a lack of clue but who rides their bike across a railway...?

road.cc (http://road.cc/content/news/228375-kent-cyclist-hospitalised-after-riding-across-live-rail)

An American tourist!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: TimO on August 28, 2017, 01:36:22 pm
This may have been down to a lack of clue but who rides their bike across a railway...?

road.cc (http://road.cc/content/news/228375-kent-cyclist-hospitalised-after-riding-across-live-rail)

It does look like he tried to pass inside a gap in the third rail, and assuming you could bunny hop the rails, albeit that's unlikely from ballast, it could "work".  Of course, with the slightest stumble and putting your foot down near the third rail, you would have problems.

At 750DC, I would think that a bicycle tyre would mostly act as an insulator, and any gap of more than about 1mm of air would probably also insulate you from it, so you'd have to almost touch the rail to have a problem (not that I'm recommending experimentation !)

The article has a Tweet from Southeastern "... Here's the damaged rail that engineers needed to repair", although I'm not sure what they had to do, since it doesn't look like more than scorching, presumably due to contact with the metal of the frame or wheel (and hopefully not too much of the person) grounding the supply.

A very very stupid act, and entirely appropriate for this thread, but it may have been a somewhat ridiculously naive attempt to minimise the risks.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on August 29, 2017, 07:35:48 pm
Even without the third rail, trying to cross the tracks other than at a crossing was a stupid thing to do.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Bledlow on August 29, 2017, 07:58:26 pm
This may have been down to a lack of clue but who rides their bike across a railway...?

road.cc (http://road.cc/content/news/228375-kent-cyclist-hospitalised-after-riding-across-live-rail)
I used to twice a day.

It was an official crossing, though. One of those footpath/bridleway things where you were warned to be alert & there was a timber path level with the rails.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on August 31, 2017, 02:06:48 pm
Last night riding up one of the immense cols in York someone cut across my front wheel on an electric skateboard - it was a really long thing - then onto the pavement where he proceeded to ride downhill slower than a bike.

No idea how it was speed controlled.

Stupid fucker, good thing I had fingers on my brakes.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on August 31, 2017, 02:56:08 pm
Commute today, on CS Lower Thames Street E to W. Roadie in team gear, belts past at top speed just as lights change, so far so normal. Stops at lights, that's a plus. Stopped at one set, he stops behind a hire bike rider on the left, I'm on the right just by the hire bike. Goes green, he's OFF. Trouble is, so am I. I slow to avoid collision as he goes to overtake hire bike. He grabs my shoulder and pulls himself forward. I say "enjoy your race". He goes in front and turns right off the CS.

Takes all sorts.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on August 31, 2017, 03:30:08 pm
I think I'd have said more than that to someone grabbing my shoulder on a moving bike without warning.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on August 31, 2017, 07:04:08 pm
TBH, my gob was too involved in the process of being smacked to be, well,  gobby. I only came out with that line as I had been thinking it since he belted past fast and close.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on September 01, 2017, 12:35:12 am
I think I'd have said more than that to someone grabbing my shoulder on a moving bike without warning.

Happened to me once, and was more than a little startling, but there were Special Circumstances.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: cycleman on September 01, 2017, 08:05:11 am
I was riding away from the lights and the young lad on the outside of me cuts across me :o :hand: he was inches away from me knocking him off his cheap bso . At least he stopped at the lights  ::-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si S on September 01, 2017, 08:15:55 am
Me. Drafting a bus along Edge Lane, I knew he'd be stopping as we approached Wilbraham Road so began to pull out to pass, what I'd forgot about was the traffic island. Feck me it was tight  :-[
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jakob on October 06, 2017, 11:50:40 pm
Me!! Last light before work got changed, so that the right turn lane has it's own light (and no right turn on red!) along with a separate light for the cyclist+pedestrians.
I've often turned into angry shouting man when cars ignored the red light, yet today I happily started riding across when the cars got green and it was still red for me.
The car turning right justifiably honked angrily at me, but all I could do at that point was a sad apologetic wave.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: clarion on October 09, 2017, 03:18:37 pm
Static DOTD for me.  Crowded train, second cyclist gets on, checks where I'm getting off, says 'That's OK', then leaves bike leaning on mine.  Not normally a problem.  But, when more people got on, and we got to my station, it was a little annoying to me and the other passengers for me to have to disentangle a bike from behind a a full-susser BSO in a crowded lobby.  This sort of wazzock gets cyclists a bad name >:(
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: cycleman on October 09, 2017, 07:20:28 pm
A mountain bike rider who cut me up as I was climbing up the canal bridge causing me to brake hard to avoid a collision . I was towing a trailer load of shopping and lost all my momentum  >:(
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mustgettaller on November 02, 2017, 09:43:00 pm
Me last night.

Off to the pub after work to meet up with friends who had been MTBing. Going up a moderately steep hill (up from Dean Lane End to Forestside for those locals who might know it).

Dropped the chain off granny ring. Spun the pedals a couple of times before realising what was going on. Unclipped on the left and toppled gently over to the right.

Heard car coming round the corner behind me. Immediate thought was "I'd better get up so that (a) I don't get run over and (b) I don't let down the cycling fraternity by giving the impression that this is a normal state for a cyclist in the dark on a country lane".

As I subsequently sorted myself out, steamed up glasses meant that when I got going I nearly cycled straight off the side of the lane, only narrowly avoided even more embarrassment.

Just glad it was dark and no witnesses.

Got to the pub though!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: iddu on November 05, 2017, 02:03:53 pm
Me.

When the man is proceeding round the roundabout with flashy blinken lighten, don' t try and ride across in front of him  :facepalm:

Amazing how fast you can sprint given need...

Sorry fella.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on November 08, 2017, 09:13:10 am
The idiot on Ampthill Road in the 7 o'clock half-light, with no lights, in the gutter, on the wrong side of the road, with his hands in his pockets. ??? :facepalm: ::-)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Guy on November 23, 2017, 08:37:41 am
Fuckwit onna folding bike this morning. Me.

Motorist hooting as they passed. Me waving and thinking "who's that?" I hadn't switched my rear-light on, had I.  :facepalm:

Mind you.I could claim it's a safety measure. Go on any motoring forum and they're all moaning about how they keep seeing cyclists with no lights...

It's only when you've got your lights switched on and you're covered in reflective gear that they run into you, get out of the car, and say "sorry mate, I didn't see you"*  ::-)




Please don't ask how I know that - my left shoulder still twinges in cold damp weather. :(
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Duckfoot1606 on December 03, 2017, 10:10:11 am
The guy on the A607 near Brooksby at 7am, racing bike, no rear light and dark gear. He’ll probably report it as a close pass.

A
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: jsabine on December 07, 2017, 11:33:24 am
A little before 10 this morning, the fluorescent, entitled cockwomble on the shared use pavement on Tunnel Avenue, SE10 - the bit that's part of the Thames Path diversion.

Picking exactly the moment when he couldn't pass - trees to the left of me, wall to the right, room in the middle for me - he came up behind and DING! DING! DING! DING!

I turned to find him looming over me and looking pissed off - a bit startled, I tried "Don't be so aggressive."

"You can't call a bell aggressive," quoth he.

Funnily enough, arsehole, I can. And I did. Because it was, and so was coming right up behind me when you couldn't fucking pass unless I dematerialised, or a tree did.

Next time, if you want to go at that sort of speed and not be interrupted by pesky pedestrians, how about using the road?

That bit's a dead end (except for an occasional bus), so there's usually almost no traffic. And unlike the pavement, the road isn't interrupted every few yards by entrances to light industrial units.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jakob on December 08, 2017, 10:10:52 pm
It might have been me...but at least it made 2 of us.
Favourite corner, which has a separate lane and light for turning right. (Light is oft ignored).  3 cars indicating to get into that right lane and 2 make it through before light changes...but before that, the 3rd car (A BMW, of course), is freaking out on the horn, clearly in a hurry and starts gesticulating and flipping the bird at the cars who are now long gone.
 I wave at the driver with a big grin on my face and he starts hopping in his seat, gesticulating even more, turning rather red in face. (Passenger looking very depressed). As I roll over the intersection (which is now green for cyclist), I change my wave to a finger and laugh out loud as he's now stomping on his horn.
Yeah, unnecessary, but it was fun to watch him explode.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Canardly on December 09, 2017, 04:55:23 pm
Main high street cross roads in busy market town centre. Spaced out prat in hoody and face mask undertaking bicycle wheelies in centre of junction. Complete and utter knob.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on December 09, 2017, 07:41:25 pm
20 mph limit.
I'm in the car.
Wide cycle lanes on either side to the extent that if you were to meet another car, at least of of you would have to enter the cycle lane to pass.
Person on bike coming towards me, in the middle of the road. Sees me, and, instead of going to their left and using the cycle lane, goes to their right as if to pass me on the wrong side, then hops up onto the pavement.
Male, mid-late 20s.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on December 11, 2017, 04:41:21 pm
Was approaching two stout oncoming peds on the shared use path.  Also approaching them from behind was another cyclist, rather fast I thought although there was just enough space for them to get by.  I assumed I'd have to slow and wait but the peds, unasked, very kindly moved smartly to one side straight into the path of the other cyclist.  Luckily it wasn't Mr Alliston and she was able to brake rather hard.   Investment in bell-training needed, I'd say. The peds thought it was hilarious! 
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DuncanM on December 14, 2017, 09:15:01 am
I'm in my car, turning left into a 1 way street, but a bin lorry is there, so I have to wait. I'm just inching forwards to complete my turn when a cyclist comes up the 1 way street, squeezes through the small gap between me and the parked car and then stops behind the bin lorry. Wasn't a student - seemed like a professional type riding a hybrid with lid, lights, high vis vest etc.
When the bin lorry moved to the side, she rode to the end of the road (T junction) and turned left without stopping or even slowing down - inches away from the side of a council transit pickup that had been driving along the main road in a queue of traffic. I don't think there's a painted cycle lane there, but I wouldn't be riding in it if there were - too much traffic and slow moving.
A minor miscalculation in the first manoeuvre results in her hitting a vehicle (mine or the parked one) and sliding into the back of the bin lorry, a minor miscalculation in the latter puts her under the back wheels of the transit. There's still snow and ice on the road. Why?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Moleman76 on December 17, 2017, 03:09:44 am
^ overconfidence, or underawareness
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on January 02, 2018, 06:40:34 pm
Coming into the village tonight I see a cyclist (or at least a person on a bike). Dark clothing, no high-vis, hoodie up.
I'm considering winding the window down and shouting some sort of comment about 'maybe getting some lights' when I realise he has a rear light. It was so dim I'd seem him (and that wasn't easy) way before I could see the little red glow.
At least he had lights of some sort I suppose.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on January 02, 2018, 08:01:49 pm
That sort of thing is fairly common in Middle Earth, and not just the BSOists.  I suspect what happens in many cases is that they bring their battery lights out from a warm room, observe them to be working at switch-on, and continue riding oblivious to the steadily rising ESR of the less-than-fresh battery as it cools down.

This is still preferable to the alternative failure mode where the light cuts off when the voltage gets a bit low, the cyclist eventually notices their light is off, prods the switch, observes it to be working, shrugs and assumes user error.  At least if it's dim you stand a decent chance of noticing your light is down to a pathetic red glow at the end of the journey.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: PhilO on January 03, 2018, 07:05:09 am
Coming into the village tonight I see a cyclist (or at least a person on a bike). Dark clothing, no high-vis, hoodie up.
I'm considering winding the window down and shouting some sort of comment about 'maybe getting some lights' when I realise he has a rear light. It was so dim I'd seem him (and that wasn't easy) way before I could see the little red glow.
At least he had lights of some sort I suppose.

Am I missing something, or is this not a better reason for saying something? A friendly "your back light's nearly flat, mate!' is likely to be better received, at least.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on January 03, 2018, 07:25:36 am
Am I missing something, or is this not a better reason for saying something? A friendly "your back light's nearly flat, mate!' is likely to be better received, at least.
You're probably right, it would have been better. However, the opportunity didn't arise, short of stopping the car and flagging him down, I suppose.
If he's a regular commuter I will see him again and will see what I can do.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on January 03, 2018, 11:26:39 pm
I've been passed by the same cyclist a couple of times in the last month.  The first time he pointed out that my rear light was flicking on and off.  "Yeah, they're on a light sensor, they do that as you go in and out of the trees around dusk" I explain.  The second time, thanks to the rotation of the earth, it was fully on, which he was pleased to point out.

Better than not knowing, anyway.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DuncanM on January 04, 2018, 01:08:06 pm
It was still dark at about 7:30 this morning, on account of the overcast sky and the rain coming down (and winter, obv).  The cyclist going wrong way down the middle of a 1 way street, with no lights or reflectives in a dark jacket gave me a bit of a start (corner, so initially not lit up by my headlights)!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on January 04, 2018, 06:18:52 pm
A brace today. Driving home, flick the lights to full beam, something orange catches my eye. "That's odd, why would there be a vehicle with an orange beacon in that house at this time of night?" Then I realise it's two bikes coming towards me with no front lights at all (and of course, dark clothes...).
At least this pair (or the one at the back anyway) had decent rear lights.

This is on a NSL road with no lighting, potholes, water run off, mud...
I usually cycle to work on that road and I definitely need a decent front light just to see where I'm going.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DuncanM on January 04, 2018, 09:17:27 pm
Red flashing light on a bike. Coming towards me. WTF? I think I prefer the unlit ones.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: MikeFromLFE on January 07, 2018, 09:31:34 am
Red flashing light on a bike. Coming towards me. WTF? I think I prefer the unlit ones.
These seem to go in and out of fashion. We had a couple around here a year or so ago : reversed red/white - I don't know if someone had a word, or natural events took their course. Around the same time Mrs M had words (as best she could) with a newly arrived cycling person from the middle east who seemed to assume it was normal (red at the front, no rear)

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Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on January 07, 2018, 09:58:43 am
The closing speed on most folk equipped with a red front light isn't much different to them being stopped. Given that you don't want to run into anything with a red light attached, regardless of its direction of motion or lack of same, is there a huge difference? Assuming you don't aim to skim past by veering at the last moment, of course.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on January 07, 2018, 10:08:56 am
Round here (country lanes with hedges on both sides) it can be confusing as to where the road is. You assume that the red light must be on the left-hand side of the road so start to move right. It's usually just a moment's confusion and usually sorts out, but adding to the thinking time of other road users is really not terribly clever,
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Diver300 on January 07, 2018, 10:17:43 am
Round here (country lanes with hedges on both sides) it can be confusing as to where the road is. You assume that the red light must be on the left-hand side of the road so start to move right. It's usually just a moment's confusion and usually sorts out, but adding to the thinking time of other road users is really not terribly clever,
That is why cars have to park in the normal direction of traffic in many conditions. Not that the law is enforced.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on January 07, 2018, 10:28:40 am
Several countries require motor vehicles to be parked in the direction of travel. I was surprised when I first visited here that the UK allowed open slather.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DuncanM on January 07, 2018, 11:07:26 am
The closing speed on most folk equipped with a red front light isn't much different to them being stopped. Given that you don't want to run into anything with a red light attached, regardless of its direction of motion or lack of same, is there a huge difference? Assuming you don't aim to skim past by veering at the last moment, of course.
When you want to turn right, the difference between a bike on the pavement going away from you, and a bike in the gutter coming towards you is significant.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on January 07, 2018, 11:10:16 am
Meh. What do you do about unlit potholes? I have headlights that show me stuff. I don't rely on indicators that may be incorrect (on cars or anything else).
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on January 07, 2018, 12:29:12 pm
I don't rely on them either.
It's the 'what the hell is that...oh a bike with no/wrong lights' moment which takes away the concentration, unnecessarily.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on January 07, 2018, 12:43:26 pm
The closing speed on most folk equipped with a red front light isn't much different to them being stopped. Given that you don't want to run into anything with a red light attached, regardless of its direction of motion or lack of same, is there a huge difference? Assuming you don't aim to skim past by veering at the last moment, of course.

The difference is that if there's a only a red light ahead, you assume it's safe to stop.  More of a shared-use path problem than a road one.

I nearly ended up in a canal because of it once:  Entered a tunnel.  Darkness, other than the flashing red light ahead and the surface was dubious, so I stopped to let my eyes adjust.  Oncoming BSOist nearly plowed into me.  If it had been a white light I'd have moved to the side, or waited outside the portal.


At road-speed distances a light tends to be too small to have colour, so I don't make assumptions beyond "flashing light => pedal cycle"
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Mr Larrington on January 07, 2018, 01:31:36 pm
Several countries require motor vehicles to be parked in the direction of travel. I was surprised when I first visited here that the UK allowed open slather.

I was given a telling-off by a USAnian friend for parking the wrong way outside her house.  Though not serious enough for me to move the car...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on January 07, 2018, 01:58:17 pm
Several countries require motor vehicles to be parked in the direction of travel. I was surprised when I first visited here that the UK allowed open slather.

I was given a telling-off by a USAnian friend for parking the wrong way outside her house.  Though not serious enough for me to move the car...

Aren't we supposed to leave [one of] the sidelights on if we do this?  Not that anyone ever does, other than by accidentally leaving the indicators engaged.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DuncanM on January 07, 2018, 02:16:43 pm
Meh. What do you do about unlit potholes? I have headlights that show me stuff. I don't rely on indicators that may be incorrect (on cars or anything else).
Sure, if I hit him it's my fault.  But when you're trying to turn across traffic, you get: car headlights - car headlights - car headlights - gap containing cyclist with dim flashing red light (in the gutter/pavement). First reaction is that he's on the pavement and that means there's a gap to get through before the next car. With someone paying attention they get a second look, which is enough to see they are approaching, and there is no gap. With someone paying a bit less attention...
It's not that other road users can't see this cyclist (urban setting, streetlights), it's that by using a red flashing light on the front (and riding in the gutter) they are actively confusing. I just don't understand - why would you go to the trouble of getting lights and then put the on the wrong way around?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tatanab on January 07, 2018, 02:32:03 pm
Aren't we supposed to leave [one of] the sidelights on if we do this?  Not that anyone ever does, other than by accidentally leaving the indicators engaged.
For ease of looking up I used my1970s Highway Code which refers to RTA1972 section 78
"You must not park your vehicle without lights at night: if the road is subject to a speed limit higher than 30mph; if you are parked other than nearside to the kerb (except in a one way street); or if you are within 15 yards of a road junction".
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 07, 2018, 02:48:12 pm
Meh. What do you do about unlit potholes? I have headlights that show me stuff. I don't rely on indicators that may be incorrect (on cars or anything else).
Sure, if I hit him it's my fault.  But when you're trying to turn across traffic, you get: car headlights - car headlights - car headlights - gap containing cyclist with dim flashing red light (in the gutter/pavement). First reaction is that he's on the pavement and that means there's a gap to get through before the next car. With someone paying attention they get a second look, which is enough to see they are approaching, and there is no gap. With someone paying a bit less attention...
It's not that other road users can't see this cyclist (urban setting, streetlights), it's that by using a red flashing light on the front (and riding in the gutter) they are actively confusing. I just don't understand - why would you go to the trouble of getting lights and then put the on the wrong way around?
I think it's for the same reason that some motorcyclists put purple or pink perspex over their headlights (which they remove at night) – to attract attention by being unusual.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DuncanM on January 07, 2018, 02:52:52 pm
I think it's for the same reason that some motorcyclists put purple or pink perspex over their headlights (which they remove at night) – to attract attention by being unusual.
If it were green or pink or purple, then it would definitely merit a second look.
Red is a tail light. Putting it on the front isn't unusual and attracting attention, it's normal, but being used out of context, and therefore, in my view dangerous. And this was at night. ;)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Diver300 on January 07, 2018, 03:02:45 pm
Several countries require motor vehicles to be parked in the direction of travel. I was surprised when I first visited here that the UK allowed open slather.

I was given a telling-off by a USAnian friend for parking the wrong way outside her house.  Though not serious enough for me to move the car...

Aren't we supposed to leave [one of] the sidelights on if we do this?  Not that anyone ever does, other than by accidentally leaving the indicators engaged.

It's both side lights, and the number plate light(s) in the UK. One side only won't comply with UK law.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 07, 2018, 04:40:57 pm
I think it's for the same reason that some motorcyclists put purple or pink perspex over their headlights (which they remove at night) – to attract attention by being unusual.
If it were green or pink or purple, then it would definitely merit a second look.
Red is a tail light. Putting it on the front isn't unusual and attracting attention, it's normal, but being used out of context, and therefore, in my view dangerous. And this was at night. ;)
Let's not pursue this reasoning or we'll see a return to the days of flashing amber lights. "Have I got time to pull out before that car gets here? Yes, they're turning left. Oh shit, that wasn't an indicator, it was a bike light!" :hand:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DuncanM on January 07, 2018, 05:04:06 pm
I think it's for the same reason that some motorcyclists put purple or pink perspex over their headlights (which they remove at night) – to attract attention by being unusual.
If it were green or pink or purple, then it would definitely merit a second look.
Red is a tail light. Putting it on the front isn't unusual and attracting attention, it's normal, but being used out of context, and therefore, in my view dangerous. And this was at night. ;)
Let's not pursue this reasoning or we'll see a return to the days of flashing amber lights. "Have I got time to pull out before that car gets here? Yes, they're turning left. Oh shit, that wasn't an indicator, it was a bike light!" :hand:
Exactly. Why is an amber light dangerous?  Because it means something else in normal road use. Just like red means the back of a vehicle. And flashing blue is going to get you into trouble! ;)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on January 07, 2018, 05:13:02 pm
Ultraviolet rear lights, on the other hand, are at least unambiguously weird.  (Spotted onna pavement cyclist in King[']s Heath - one of those dodgy-banknote-identification LED torches gaffer-taped to the seatpost  ???)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Johnny Faro on January 07, 2018, 05:21:35 pm
I realize this may be going slightly off topic but regarding the lights I nearly took out a motorcyclist a few months back. It's hard to explain but the headlight looked very much like a car one viewed side on. I look and think that's a car at the roundabout so plenty of time to pull away. Thankfully something just seemed wrong so checked again and saw the bike approaching me.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: simonp on January 18, 2018, 10:23:04 am
Good one today, bombing down narrow pavement, like he was in a downhill race, weaving around a lamp post then around me.

I may have called him something.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: handcyclist on February 11, 2018, 04:44:16 pm
Multiple. Well, 3 to be precise.

Ok, so I'm a 57 year old man wearing warm overtrousers struggling into a headwind on a 15 year old Ridgeback. With mudguards.

You three are clearly much younger, much fitter, wearing skintight bibsuits and chasing each other up the hill on carbon fuck-me-how-much bikes. I know that, there's no need to rub it in by passing me with a foot clearance with not such much as a raised Le Col encased hand, let alone a friendly greeting to cheer me on a cold climb.

Arrogant cocks.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Riggers on February 14, 2018, 11:31:26 am
^ well said Handers.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on February 16, 2018, 09:17:10 am
The closing speed on most folk equipped with a red front light isn't much different to them being stopped. Given that you don't want to run into anything with a red light attached, regardless of its direction of motion or lack of same, is there a huge difference? Assuming you don't aim to skim past by veering at the last moment, of course.
When you want to turn right, the difference between a bike on the pavement going away from you, and a bike in the gutter coming towards you is significant.

In France, in the sticks, on a couple of occasions I have met cyclists coming towards me on the wrong side of the road.  The closing speed is very alarming.  On cycle tracks I Impose My Will on them and force them to take the right side :demon:  The alternative is that little dance pedestrians do. 

Multiple. Well, 3 to be precise.

Ok, so I'm a 57 year old man wearing warm overtrousers struggling into a headwind on a 15 year old Ridgeback. With mudguards.

You three are clearly much younger, much fitter, wearing skintight bibsuits and chasing each other up the hill on carbon fuck-me-how-much bikes. I know that, there's no need to rub it in by passing me with a foot clearance with not such much as a raised Le Col encased hand, let alone a friendly greeting to cheer me on a cold climb.

Arrogant cocks.


Cycling in the Alps or Pyrenees on lonely roads I have often been passed like I am standing still by people who are cyclists of a high order, if not pros (they have support vehicles at the top).  I am no longer surprised to get a friendly wave as they shoot by.  It's the wannabees who have no manners. 
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 16, 2018, 11:58:53 am
In India, in a big city, I regularly met cyclists, motorcyclists, tractors, car drivers and horse carts coming towards me on the wrong side of the road. The closing speed was low and the general tendency is for the wrong-sider to keep nearer the kerb. Bus drivers only go the wrong side on country roads and camel riders seem uniquely to keep to the correct side.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jakob on February 16, 2018, 08:36:32 pm
Me, maybe?
Last night, driving to practice in outer lane, I indicate to change to the inner lane, shoulder check, start to change and hear a car jamming on it's horn. I abort, slow down and see one of these (in black) zoom ahead:
(https://electrameccanica.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/mecc_red-1030x435.jpg)

It's black roof is only just above my window line and I'm not at all surprised I missed that.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 16, 2018, 08:47:32 pm
What IS that?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Neil C on February 16, 2018, 09:21:21 pm
Looks like it's an electric three wheeler - so just an e-trike without the pedals?  Only $15,500.
https://electrameccanica.com/emv-solo-us/
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jakob on February 16, 2018, 10:58:06 pm
Yeah, they're made locally and are rather expensive.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 16, 2018, 11:09:35 pm
It does look disturbingly like a cgi image of a normal car with its back half chopped off.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: asterix on February 17, 2018, 11:00:38 am
Looks like it's an electric three wheeler - so just an e-trike without the pedals?  Only $15,500.
https://electrameccanica.com/emv-solo-us/

Potholes..
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Veloman on February 17, 2018, 11:13:34 am
And speed humps as it looks as if it could bottom-out very easily.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DuncanM on February 22, 2018, 05:22:16 pm
Bloke on shiny electric bike (not apparently pedalling) goes zipping along the pavement past me and then straight across the junction that a Range Rover (indicating correctly) was turning into. Having stopped just in time (the Range Rover also stopped), he squirted around the range Rover, onto the road and nearly went head on into a car coming the other way (emergency stop from both car and ebike - road only 1 lane due to parked cars).
If he rides like that, I'm not sure his shiny ebike is going to stay very shiny for very long.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on February 22, 2018, 08:22:06 pm
that'll be an e-e-e-kbike he was riding
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on February 22, 2018, 09:42:43 pm
Having encountered one a while ago, I was wondering if the ebike revolution is going to give us a whole new class of pavement cyclists who are both fast and unskilled (the usual pavement cyclists tending to be either one or the other).

I'm sure there will be an e-bikelash in due course.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 23, 2018, 09:03:28 am
As with pretty much everything, more power (and easier power) means more potential to do stupid things.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Canardly on February 23, 2018, 09:24:34 am
BMW driver accelerates in the outside lane leading off a major roundabout but this then becomes a chicane and single lane containing service roads to shops and outlets. Instead of slowing/stopping to obtain a slot he accelerates again and tries to barge his way infront of another vehicle by cutting him up badly. Aggression follows between the two after what had almost resulted in a major collision involving traffic coming the other way. What a dick.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on February 23, 2018, 11:48:55 am
Having encountered one a while ago, I was wondering if the ebike revolution is going to give us a whole new class of pavement cyclists who are both fast and unskilled (the usual pavement cyclists tending to be either one or the other).

I'm sure there will be an e-bikelash in due course.

Most e bikers I have experienced are quite civilized and courteous. There is however, a breed that employs non legal or 'dongled' legal bikes that can be complete cocks.

As the e bike revolution spreads, my former colleagues will catch on to it and then be able to spend time persecuting e cocks as opposed to investiagting real crime.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 23, 2018, 12:06:29 pm
Having encountered one a while ago, I was wondering if the ebike revolution is going to give us a whole new class of pavement cyclists who are both fast and unskilled (the usual pavement cyclists tending to be either one or the other).

I'm sure there will be an e-bikelash in due course.

Most e bikers I have experienced are quite civilized and courteous. There is however, a breed that employs non legal or 'dongled' legal bikes that can be complete cocks.

As the e bike revolution spreads, my former colleagues will catch on to it and then be able to spend time persecuting e cocks as opposed to investiagting real crime.
And I thought "e cocks" were something that might be only in NSFW!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on February 23, 2018, 12:33:39 pm
Having encountered one a while ago, I was wondering if the ebike revolution is going to give us a whole new class of pavement cyclists who are both fast and unskilled (the usual pavement cyclists tending to be either one or the other).

I'm sure there will be an e-bikelash in due course.

Most e bikers I have experienced are quite civilized and courteous. There is however, a breed that employs non legal or 'dongled' legal bikes that can be complete cocks.

As the e bike revolution spreads, my former colleagues will catch on to it and then be able to spend time persecuting e cocks as opposed to investiagting real crime.
And I thought "e cocks" were something that might be only in NSFW!

So the accepted term for a Dick Of The Day on an e bike is a Dildo Of The Day?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 23, 2018, 12:39:31 pm
 ;D :o :hand: :thumbsup: :D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on February 23, 2018, 04:46:11 pm
Having encountered one a while ago, I was wondering if the ebike revolution is going to give us a whole new class of pavement cyclists who are both fast and unskilled (the usual pavement cyclists tending to be either one or the other).

I'm sure there will be an e-bikelash in due course.

Most e bikers I have experienced are quite civilized and courteous. There is however, a breed that employs non legal or 'dongled' legal bikes that can be complete cocks.

Agreed, but those ones tend to ride on the road.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Feanor on February 23, 2018, 07:06:45 pm
And I thought "e cocks" were something that might be only in NSFW!
So the accepted term for a Dick Of The Day on an e bike is a Dildo Of The Day?

"Wand" or "Rabbit", I'd have thought for an e-Dick...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: essexian on February 26, 2018, 08:42:38 am
Saturday afternoon around 16.45, I was just about to move from as the lights had changed here:

<iframe src="https://www.google.com/maps/embed?pb=!4v1519634450276!6m8!1m7!1sYqTrCgVHsIYRjXMcltCBhQ!2m2!1d52.81026834475919!2d-2.119982073077113!3f124.28820339350605!4f-4.005925100848401!5f0.7820865974627469" width="400" height="300" frameborder="0" style="border:0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

when two twats on bikes decided to "cycle" there way into the oncoming traffic causing the whole lot of us to stop so they could cross on an angle.

Oh and they had the affront to smack one persons car and shout abuse at another driver who wouldn't let them by.

I think we have a regional DOTD winner!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: rogerzilla on March 08, 2018, 08:30:29 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-43330195/swerve-the-car-footage-shows-dangers-of-stupid-game
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Duckfoot1606 on March 12, 2018, 08:55:01 am
Disgusting

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/43366954

A
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: pumpkin on March 14, 2018, 02:23:23 pm
Me on Monday. It was raining so bike in the car and go to a halfway point to ride in (5 miles in wet better than 11 miles) and then realise my shoes are @ home. Luckily I have a spare pair on the main campus (2.5 miles) but I can say that a pair of crocs arent comfortable on Candy pedals in the rain.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jakob on March 16, 2018, 11:30:32 pm
Me, a little bit. I was on my BMX, which means A) Highly manueverable and B) I can bail out very quickly.
 I was waiting for the light to change.  As it did, lady coming the other way decided the lights didn't apply to her, so I decided to put it to the test and started moving on green, forcing her to get the brakes, getting caught in the middle of the intersection. (She wasn't going all that fast, so I wasn't taking any huge risks).
90% of the traffic across that intersection is cyclists and pedestrians and I often see cars ignoring the red lights, if there's no cars crossing.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: handcyclist on March 18, 2018, 12:02:35 am
Another self-nomination  ::-)

Half asleep, setting off for this morning's Parkrun, I stuffed a drink and a keep-the-saddle-dry plastic bag in a pannier and jumped on. Unfortunately without doing up the clips and straps that hold the top flap. As I turned into the wind from the right, one of the straps wrapped itself around the sprockets, bringing pedalling to a rather abrupt halt .....
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si S on March 22, 2018, 06:34:01 pm
My word, don't Unimogs towing Caterpillar transporters stop quickly  :-[  :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on May 01, 2018, 10:20:15 am
I rather winced this morning. I was driving out of a parked up cul de sac when a neighbor turned in. He then had to reverse out of the entrance to the cul de sac to let me past the parked cars. So far so normal.

The came the dunce, the cyclist who passed up the inside of my neighbor, who he had watched reverse out of the side turning, and then pass across the front of me who was now preparing to turn left out of the minor road with a car blocking the road from my right.  :o :facepalm: Fortunately I saw him, stopped and therefore blocked my neighbor from left hooking him.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: essexian on May 13, 2018, 06:38:13 am
Two in 100m yesterday afternoon.

Firstly, the senior on the road bike who overtook me on at the roundabout on Martins Drive and then promptly headed for the pavement. I mean why? Pavements are for people not bikes. Yes, okay the Newport Road is not the nicest road to cycle on: its narrow and carries quite a lot of traffic, but you seemed to have a decent bike and some speed so it should not have been a problem for you. Perhaps, a case of "all the gear and no idea?"

Talking about no idea...the other DOTD was the youth on what appeared to be an ebike who decided to overtake me and then do wheelies for several hundred yards in front of me in traffic. Twat. Even more so when the berk doubled back after I turned off to do the whole lot again.

This is the type of idiot who will eventually (IMHO) result in ebikes needing to be registered, taxed and helmets made a legal requirement....once that happens to ebikes, it will happen to us muscle powered riders too. This isn't a go at ebike rides overall, just the idiots who see them as a form of way of riding at speed with no need to bother with that stuff like a CBT or insurance etc.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on May 13, 2018, 11:20:18 pm
Sounds like it wasn't an e bike but a 'souped up' or dongled or doctored e bike so therefore not staying within the realms of e bike legislation. Just the sort of idiot that will persuade the polis to actually pay attention and deal with the lawbreakers and legislation dodgers.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on May 13, 2018, 11:42:51 pm
Sounds like it wasn't an e bike but a 'souped up' or dongled or doctored e bike so therefore not staying within the realms of e bike legislation. Just the sort of idiot that will persuade the polis to actually pay attention and deal with the lawbreakers and legislation dodgers.

Or just one that complies with the more lax or complete absence of e-bike legislation that you get in some of the more FOREIGN parts of ABROAD.  Cheap and low-quality but impressively high-power kits are readily available on the interwebs from sellers in the Far East, primarily selling to USAnians (whose e-bike regulations vary state-by-state).

I expect e-bike enforcement will remain a case of not spectacularly failing the attitude test for the foreseeable future, much to the relief of those who need non-compliant systems for disability reasons[1].


[1] eg. Throttle-only operation to get you home after a known-dodgy-knee failure.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on May 26, 2018, 07:55:37 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-highlands-islands-44264331

I know this isn't cycling, but I thought we had gone beyond this sort of reckless idiocy. Bloody good job it wasn't in winter.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on May 26, 2018, 08:14:31 pm
Reckless idiocy shows no danger of going out of fashion.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on May 31, 2018, 12:33:41 pm
So, fuzzy is walking along the pavement adjacent to the moneygrubbing developers site next to his house. A trailer towing transit van slows on the other side of the other side of the road and does a bit of manouvering.

"He's going to reverse into the site entrance" thinks fuzzy. Some distance away, travelling towards him is a line of 3 or 4 cars with an accelerating hybrid rider at the head of the line.

The van is by now doing a quite capable trailer reverse and is crossing the lane in whch the cyclist and cars are travelling. The cars do the expected thing and slow down. The cyclist? Yup, you've guessed it, he stands and commences a head down sprint. Fuzzy look back and the gap is getting small. he shouts "Slow down, he's reversing!" Cyclist as he passes shouts "Fuck off!"

BANG! CLATTER! as the van sharply stops and the trailer load shifts. "Cunt!" shouts the driver at the rapidly progressing cyclist. "Correct" responds fuzzy.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Riggers on June 05, 2018, 10:26:36 am
^
What a heart-warming story Fuzzmeister, and one that appears to be replicated elsewhere. I don't mean the precise scenario you describe, but rather the attitude we pleasant cyclists witness with other so-called cyclists. I say so-called, because they are not of our ilk – those, and I'm sure you and I are of a similar age Fuzzy (around 40  ::-) -ish) who have grown up from tiny tots to manhood riding bikes, and not straddling a cross-bar for the first time because in their mid-twenties: it's 'cool', or in battle against the car.

Lack of patience.

Last Sunday. Coming out of the top of Stanmer Park and approaching Old Boat Corner (those that know it will know what I mean) the road is quite narrow approaching the T-junction. Disappointingly, there are perhaps, 10 cars ahead of me (I may have said "Bollocks" if memory serves) but there is no point, and more importantly, no room to comfortably manoeuvre down the wrong side of the road. Unseen vehicles can and do come into the road (which takes you to Ditchling Beacon – you might have heard of that one), so it's folly to think about passing the cars. Apparently, other roadies didn't think so, and while I waited for the queue of cars to diminish, there were a number who cycled past, only to try and squeeze themselves back into gaps that drivers obligingly made.

One lady who came into the gap where I sat, was about to carry on. I said: "I wouldn't, there's a double-decker bus just coming up" (it was an open-top one if you want to know), but did she hang back? Nope. Of course she didn't, and the bus had to stop, while she then shoe-horned herself between two cars, which was one ahead of me.

Maybe these same people drive like they cycle – I dunno? You can understand the drivers thinking: "Knobs."

I'm also adding: Lack of Anticipation.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: essexian on June 17, 2018, 10:56:29 am
Many I also add Lack of Understanding regarding safe overtaking.   :facepalm:

I will admit I dislike riding from my front door so tend to drive a few miles out of town and park up before hitting the lightly trafficked lanes around Haughton. Not very green I will admit  :facepalm: So this morning, I was heading back to the "station" car park (the station closed 50 odd years ago), when I spotted a MTB rider coming the other way and behind him, a red car. The car was being very sensible and waiting for me to pass before pulling out to over take the MTB rider, given how narrow the road is at that point, and given the mess I would make to the front of the car if she tried to.

However, the MTB rider decided he did not like the car being behind him: she was a good 10 yards back and driving slowly and sensibly, so stopped, turned around and started shouting abuse at the car driver telling her to overtake.  TWAT.  In this case, the car driver was 100% right to wait and the MTB rider wrong. No wonder why some car drivers think cyclists are knobs when one proves it beyond all reasonable doubt that they, as an individual, are.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: rogerzilla on June 17, 2018, 07:20:10 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-44512967

Morons.  No-one in their right mind gets close to a horse when cycling.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on June 17, 2018, 08:20:00 pm
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-44512967

Morons.  No-one in their right mind gets close to a horse when cycling.

Barakta showed me that video on Friendface earlier.  When it popped up on road.cc I was unsurprised to learn they were taking part in a triathlon (which do seem to be a recipe for people who can go reasonably fast on bikes, but who often have all the road sense you expect from riders on a shorter charity ride).

Seriously though, I can understand riding like a cock, with no concern for what the horse might do to the rider or those around it after you've shot past - people do that sort of thing when driving cars all the time.  What I don't understand is willingly getting so close to half a tonne of muscular metal-shoed neurosis that you can actually touch it.  Have they never seen a horse?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SoreTween on June 17, 2018, 08:36:25 pm
Blimey, indefencible. No reason for any of them to be left of the centre line.

Couple of motorised morons get a mention just to restore a spot of normality:
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Amanda Coyne, who lives near the route of the race, said she had encountered cyclists riding "dangerously" while driving shortly before 09:00.

"I nearly had a heart attack as I nearly got hit by a car which had been forced to overtake cyclists who were riding four-abreast," she said.
Forced? By whome pray tell Ms Coyne?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hellymedic on June 17, 2018, 08:36:27 pm
Willesden CC also posted the vid on Friendface.
Dreadful!
Title: DOTD
Post by: TigaSefi on June 17, 2018, 08:40:54 pm
Human Race have confirmed the culprits will be banned for life from their own events and they WILL be reported to the police for colliding with an animal on the road as per Highway Code.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: rogerzilla on June 17, 2018, 09:08:37 pm
One of our schoolteachers was kicked in the face by her own horse and had a bruise the size of a grapefruit, with one eye that didn't re-open for a week.  I've been very wary of rhe things ever since.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si S on June 18, 2018, 08:51:54 am
<speculation> Head down riding, chasing a wheel I reckon, resulting in a last second swerve to avoid inserting head into horse's arse </speculation>

Total nob.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Zipperhead on June 20, 2018, 04:22:12 pm
Mr. Cyclist on Putney bridge, it's good of you to shout at me that "it's a bike lane" and gesture for me to get out - but maybe you might want to look at  the signs, and maybe the writing in the road - which doesn't have a bicycle drawn but the words "Bus Lane", you weren't shouting at the buses were you? And had there been any taxis would you have shouted at them?

No, it's a bus lane and I on my motorcycle am allowed to use it (I did check), so wind your neck in.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DuncanM on June 21, 2018, 01:31:50 pm
Arse on the 50cc motorbike blatting around and around our estate at 10pm last night. It was too warm, but you left me no choice but to close the windows and boil. Grrr.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: cycleman on June 21, 2018, 09:16:09 pm
I was riding along the a4 this evening and a car was patiently waiting behind me for a safe place to pass when a prat on a racing bike undertook the car and overtook me with minimal clearance .to car then overtook me and the idiot who shouted at the driver and then took both hands off his handlebars to indicate that the car had passed him to close  ::-) .  Pollock   :hand:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: essexian on September 02, 2018, 09:00:22 am
I seem to post a lot on this thread..... don't know if that says more about me than it does about the standard of cycling in Stafford but I am hoping its the latter.....

Anyway, yesterday afternoon I was making my way out of town on the NCN Route 5: "The Isobel Trail". Its a flat former railway which has been tarmacked over and is quite pleasant to ride on, if you avoid the dog walkers and the tree roots which have make the path a little uneven in places especially around the former Stafford Common Station.

Thus I was making my way north when I came up behind a youth on an MTB with about as much control over their bike as a hedgehog does over the rear end after a curry (you need to know hedgehogs poo anywhere, even into their own food!). So, out when a friendly: "Hi may I pass please" call, which was ignored... I tried again 50 yards later. However, the youth simply got out his mobile phone and started playing with it.... another call a bit louder this time....ignored...… Followed by "OI"..... which caused a reaction... the youth looked around and saw me and moved a quarter of an inch to the right allowing me to pass...…


The reason for him not moving (apart from being a twat)….he was wearing headphones and thus, could not hear a thing. Okay, I know some people think riding in headphones is okay and yes, it might be at times but not on a shared use path and not while using your mobile phone.  :facepalm:

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on October 10, 2018, 05:12:19 pm
Dear cyclist. Dusk is a particularly difficult time to ride, as is best practice it well behoves the individual to take extra care. When riding on a main road and you are behind a 4x4 turning left and slowed to a stop because, well, because they aren't very good at the driving thing and are waiting for someone in that side road (me) to turn right, it might not be the best idea to ride past at full speed (which wasn't very much, tbh) crossing into the oncoming lane. That I was pulling forward slowly was because my view was limited, by the 4x4, the car's mahoosive A pillars and the light conditions which enabled me to brake rapidly and safely to avoid you, as it would have been messy awkward to pick bits of you and bike out of the bonnet. There wa no apparent reason to hurl mouthfuls of abuse in my direction, at least from my perspective. You clearly felt different.

Have a nice day.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si S on October 12, 2018, 09:18:34 am
The sheepish looking guy who decided at the very last minute that riding up the inside of the moving/pulling-in bin wagon on Stretford Road was not a good idea and made to flit across in front of me to pass on the outside, unfortunately the slowing of the wagon put him inside the reach of the safety arm sticking out the back, I reckon the chances of seeing said arm would have been vastly improved if he'd have had some ruddy lights on, as was pointed out by the bin man who gave him a right bollocking whilst picking him up...still better than ending up in the back of the thing I reckon.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on October 12, 2018, 06:01:03 pm
You have to wonder about any cyclist who doesn't give a bin lorry a wide berth simply on account of the smell...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si S on October 13, 2018, 12:05:07 pm
Yep, I remember being berated by a fellow commuter a few years ago for allowing one to get away, he wanted to draft it  :sick:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 13, 2018, 07:28:23 pm
Drafting a bin lorry is pretty daft anyway, unless it's returning to depot or you really want to practice repeated 100 metre sprints and trackstands.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Peat on October 15, 2018, 09:40:22 am
To the chap I see riding most weekdays, who has the irritating combination of a pathetically weak rear blinky light and 2x obnoxiously bright lights up front.

Well done on getting one of those fancy Proviz gilets. However, it's about as much use as a chocolate teapot if you wear a huge rucksack over the top of it. And, by not having mudguards, the only part that would be visible from behind was rendered useless by dint of being covered in road-muck.

Top work.

 
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SoreTween on October 16, 2018, 07:37:12 pm
The rider that passed me at the exit of The Broadway tonight, single lane one way with barriers to the right. I'm behind a car, bus & car waiting for the lights to change. As they go orange the rider passed to my right and continued on to place themselves beside the bus as it begins to move. The bus has been indicating right the whole time, lit up like a big boxy monochromatic Christmas tree.  I'm watching muttering this is gonna be bad as they try to beat the bus then inadequately slow as if not wanting to stop. They manage to drop back just in time.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Torslanda on October 17, 2018, 12:36:41 am
Any of this lot. (https://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/boys-wheelies-into-traffic-191588/) Fucking oxygen thieves.

Frankly they deserve to spend the rest of their adult lives being fed thru a tube but sadly with that would go a severely traumatised driver and a shitload of care staff.

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 17, 2018, 10:29:32 am
Yeah. Mind you, I can think of a few middle-aged sensible audax types who'd do that if they had the skilllz and still had the bouncy bonez. Admittedly most of them would probably at least attempt to avoid a head-on collision and maybe even stop at red.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on October 17, 2018, 12:47:36 pm
Yeabut as activities for the yoof of Chatham to participate in go, it's a relatively harmless one.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Johnny Faro on October 17, 2018, 12:48:33 pm
Nearly me for nearly pulling out of a car park in front of a lady cycling pretty much in the gutter and the carpark wall was obscuring the view.

Then her for squeezing past my van the wrong way up a one way exit
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Blade on October 18, 2018, 12:07:11 pm
This morning.

Lady pavement cyclist, riding facing oncoming traffic, doing about 15 M.P.H. on an e-bike, riding one handed, holding a dog leash in the other hand attached to a substantially sized dog.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Peat on October 22, 2018, 07:57:28 am
To the chap I see riding most weekdays, who has the irritating combination of a pathetically weak rear blinky light and 2x obnoxiously bright lights up front.


Perhaps he posts here? Today a fully reflective backpack and bright rear lights. You could have seen him from the space station! Good work.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SteveC on October 22, 2018, 09:38:10 am
Interesting one in Athens last night.
Two dim blinky lights on the front, one white and one red.
On the back a slightly larger but just as dim blue flashing item.

We did wonder if the inhabitants of the nearby police car would take an interest but couldn’t quite see what if anything happened.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Little Jim on December 06, 2018, 03:28:02 pm
Last night at about 6.00pm.  Dressed all in very dark blue or black, including a blue baseball cap, riding along the A4 in Newbury.  No lights at all on the bike, not that it would have mattered as he was pulling a wheelie.  Not a good idea on a busy main road at the best of times, certainly not in the dark when practically invisible.  I did laugh though when the inevitable happened and he ended up in a heap in the middle of the road.  Fortunately the car behind him was giving him plenty of space as he presumably had anticipated the unceremonious collapse
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jakob W on December 07, 2018, 11:17:17 am
I've never actually seen a wheelieing yoof come a cropper on the road; mucking about in the park with their mates, sure, but maybe there's some kind of Darwinian selection effect going on here?
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on December 07, 2018, 12:21:06 pm
On a related note, it's skateboard ninja season again.

I'm all for skateboarding as a form of transport.  And it makes more sense to do it on the road, which is smoother and less busy with pedestrians than the bin-cluttered pavement.  But maybe not dressing entirely in black would be a good idea...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: markcjagar on December 07, 2018, 06:20:41 pm
The bellend going the wrong way up a one-way street with no lights in the dark who then joined a busy 2 lane roundabout without giving way and nearly got flattened by a bus...
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: SoreTween on December 18, 2018, 08:28:46 pm
I was Glared at tonight, note the capital G.  Paddington would have been impressed by that level of glare. I was driving and my crime was to edge forward with the wheels on full lock entirely within a parking bay left of the road. Entirely within the parking bay. Whilst indicating.
Y' see, despite looking over my shoulder I did not have a clear view of traffic approaching from behind. So I moved carefully to improve my view.
Mr Glareee thought I was going to pull out on him. Wrongly. Sure I didn't see him until I'd moved but that was the point of the movement. I wouldn't have seen him any sooner if he'd had lights on his bike nor if it were fitted with reflectors. His lack of being seen was not down to wearing only black nor the all black bike he rode. His lack of being seen was due to the large van parked behind me.  See, I don't drive an Audi so I don't believe I can see through inanimate objects nor round corners (I digress).
The fact that the only non black surface of the whole mobile ensemble was the logo on the black JDSports bag swinging from the handlebars did not delay me seeing Mr Glareypants at all. Just physics.
I can still feel the glare now.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Steph on December 29, 2018, 06:32:53 pm
Going to work on a night shift on Wednesday, going down a badly lit street while overtaking parked cars, and meeting a POB coming towards me.
Me: 8-LED rear light, one row set to flashing. Cateye rechargeable decent front light. Headtorch. Yellow and reflective winter jacket. Matching gloves. Reflective trim on bib03/4s.

Him (from his voice): all black clothing. Hood up. No lights at all. Sitting bolt upright on the BSO as he needed both hands for the phone he was using, the glow from the screen being the first thing I actually saw of him as he rode up the centre of the road.

Me: "Idiot"
Him: [Doesn't really matter. No great invention employed in his invective]

Me: "Get some sodding lights, dickhead"


The only thing that would have made the event a full bingo card would have been a Magic Plastic Hat worn on the back of his hood.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on December 29, 2018, 07:26:54 pm
To be fair, the glow from the smartphone screen has done wonders for the nocturnal visibility of BSOists.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Si S on January 08, 2019, 09:08:39 am
The unlit idiot who turned right across my path last night causing a full emergency stop with the comment "Sorry, I thought you were a motorbike". WTF?  ???
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Peat on January 08, 2019, 02:28:06 pm
I assume he meant that he thought you were a far away motorbike by dint of not hearing your engine.

Either way....foolish.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Redlight on January 17, 2019, 10:20:30 pm
The half dozen or so who thought it would be sensible to ride against the flow of traffic through the temporary contraflow in Greenwich this evening, despite the fact that the vehicles coming the other way had priority (the red light at one end and the green at the other should have given it away).  The contraflow is in place because the roadworks are taking up more than one lane and the remaining bit of road is very narrow.  Luckily for you, I tend to be considerate towards fellow-cyclists, even when they are acting like complete dicks.  Other drivers may not be so tolerant.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: MikeFromLFE on January 18, 2019, 08:02:33 am
Not sure if it was dickery or just innocent ignorance. Rush hour yesterday evening in Leicester A47 heavy with moving traffic.
Cyclist with a front flashing light, but the flash pattern was «on /off/ on - long off - repeat» the long off phase was long enough to mask the rider's presence at side roads.
If the rider had been going my way I might have warned them (and maybe got a mouthful?)

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Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on January 18, 2019, 02:35:26 pm
Blink-blink-pause is probably the optimal attention-getting flashing pattern, as the first flash catches your eye in time to be looking at the second flash.  Hence its use for beacons on aircraft etc.  But it's still a flashing light and should IMHO only be used to supplement a static one, even if the flash frequency meets the 1-4Hz RVLR requirement (which presumably exists to avoid this very issue).

Anyway, front flashing lights are a work of Stan, and should only be used in daylight during thick fog or for impersonating police officers.   :hand:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: matthew on January 19, 2019, 04:06:30 pm
Not sure if it was dickery or just innocent ignorance. Rush hour yesterday evening in Leicester A47 heavy with moving traffic.
Cyclist with a front flashing light, but the flash pattern was «on /off/ on - long off - repeat» the long off phase was long enough to mask the rider's presence at side roads.
If the rider had been going my way I might have warned them (and maybe got a mouthful?)

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For my hope front light that is the low battery pattern. which basically means get home quick.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on January 19, 2019, 10:39:38 pm
Yeah, dying battery is another good reason for flashing, on the basis that it's better than the alternative.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: grams on January 19, 2019, 11:04:52 pm
There were some people with crazy bright flashing front lights on the Dunwich Dynamo last year, which had the joy of not only doing your head in when behind them but for a *long* time after you’d overtaken them. It didn’t help that I encountered them at the peak “why TF am I still awake” brain melting phase of the ride.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on January 20, 2019, 12:08:23 am
There were some people with crazy bright flashing front lights on the Dunwich Dynamo last year, which had the joy of not only doing your head in when behind them but for a *long* time after you’d overtaken them. It didn’t help that I encountered them at the peak “why TF am I still awake” brain melting phase of the ride.

Sadly I think this counts as an integral part of the DunRun experience.  You get loads of riders who've either never ridden on properly dark roads, or who've yet to discover[1] that it's easier to see where you're going when it's not in strobe-o-vision.


[1] Given the ones you meet on the towpath at commuter o'clock in winter, I'm suspicious that some of them consider that warding off cars that aren't there is more important than seeing where they're going.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 20, 2019, 04:01:45 pm
I think there are some who don't realize bike lights can be steady, just as some don't realize it's possible to ride in something other than shorts when the temperature dips below zero.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on January 20, 2019, 05:22:34 pm
Geordies and posties have an exemption.  For the shorts-wearing, not the flashing lights.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Socks on January 21, 2019, 03:05:24 pm
Geordies and posties have an exemption.  For the shorts-wearing, not the flashing lights.

Apparently that's where Scott's polar expedition went wrong.  They took ponies, which died in the extreme cold.  He should have taken geordies who would have been fine in t-shirt and jeans.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: bairn again on January 21, 2019, 10:38:30 pm
Got a telling off from a runner for sounding my bell (he was ahead of me going in the same direction on a path that was just about wide enough for us both and it was my standard courtesy warning when overtaking combined with a deceleration given the width of the path). 

Said hed prefer cyclists not to ring their bells. 

I recognised him so I cant wait til next time  :demon:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Jasmine on January 24, 2019, 11:04:01 am

Anyway, front flashing lights are a work of Stan, and should only be used in daylight during thick fog or for impersonating police officers.   :hand:

Indeed.  It's a pet hate. I think a lot of people who have them don't realise that some people will have a tendency to drive/ride *toward* blindingly bright or flashing lights, and that when used in the dark the temporary blindness caused to other road users is a menace.  Fortunately, living in a non-urban area does tend to weed them out - descending a big hill in the dark is certainly more challenging if your light isn't on all the time.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tonycollinet on January 25, 2019, 07:08:22 am
I have a "be seen by" flasher on all the time. My "see by" lights are only ever on steady.

Sorry - but I disagree with the "work of stan" comments regarding this, as long as the flasher is not excessively bright.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: tatanab on January 25, 2019, 07:16:07 am
as long as the flasher is not excessively bright.
At the other end of the spectrum, I often see riders with daytime front lights that are about as effective as a fart in a thunderstorm.  I see the rider long long before I notice they have a glow worm attached to their bars.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Peat on January 25, 2019, 08:41:11 am
DOTD shoutout to the fella on the Chalke & Cheese out of Warmley t'other week. Several hundred fully illuminated cyclists heading down the Bristol-Bath traffic free cycle path together. So, obviously, had super bright flashing lights front and rear. I had to sprint off ahead of him for fear of an epileptic fit.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: andyoxon on January 25, 2019, 09:01:32 am
Got a telling off from a runner for sounding my bell (he was ahead of me going in the same direction on a path that was just about wide enough for us both and it was my standard courtesy warning when overtaking combined with a deceleration given the width of the path). 

Said hed prefer cyclists not to ring their bells. 

I recognised him so I cant wait til next time  :demon:

I wonder how he thinks cyclists with bells supposed to determine his preferences.   So far I haven't had any negativity since I've be using a bell again.  Tend to ping from way back, and keeping pinging at intervals as I approach, until I get a response.  Sometime runners/peds with headphones will confound my efforts.  On rarer occasions I still opt for 'mornin', 'coming through' etc instead of a bell, if I just feel it's more appropriate.

edit.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 25, 2019, 09:26:19 am
DOTD shoutout to the fella on the Chalke & Cheese out of Warmley t'other week. Several hundred fully illuminated cyclists heading down the Bristol-Bath traffic free cycle path together. So, obviously, had super bright flashing lights front and rear. I had to sprint off ahead of him for fear of an epileptic fit.
Paths like that are the places to experience the full range of cyclist lighting choices, from no lights or reflectors at all to full on epileptic disco at high noon, and encompassing all sorts of weird colours and positioning in between. And that's just the cyclists, if we add in the runners, walkers, dogs, hover wheels and similar devices, we'd never end!
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on January 25, 2019, 08:58:52 pm
What a bunch of utter knob ends. Particularly one Iain Plumb.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-47009149

Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Pingu on January 25, 2019, 10:55:30 pm
Lights! Flashing! White on the rear, red on the front  :facepalm:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on January 25, 2019, 11:10:11 pm
Lights! Flashing! White on the rear, red on the front  :facepalm:
Occasionally see people with red on the front or white on the rear, don't think I've ever seen both on the same bike. I do wonder whether it's just a mistake, or a case of desperation wrong lights are better than no lights, or a deliberate ploy for WTF-factor safety.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: IanN on January 26, 2019, 11:10:03 am
Not half as stoopid as red filters on motorcycle front lights  :facepalm:

On rural winding roads at night, sometimes all you can do is steer by aiming for the red lights ahead. I can't see how that could go wrong...
(motorbike idiocy has a different thread I'm sure)
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: andyoxon on January 27, 2019, 12:10:33 am
What a bunch of utter knob ends. Particularly one Iain Plumb.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-47009149

Shocking lack of consideration.

£1000 in fines & costs was fairly substantial when considering this driver - horse/rider collision outcome...  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-40134629
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Pingu on January 27, 2019, 12:20:34 am
What a bunch of utter knob ends. Particularly one Iain Plumb.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-berkshire-47009149

Shocking lack of consideration.

£1000 in fines & costs was fairly substantial when considering this driver - horse/rider collision outcome...  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-40134629

 :demon:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on January 31, 2019, 01:21:02 pm
More comedy than dickery: I was at a large, traffic light controlled junction waiting for the right turn filter.  The lights went red for the cross traffic, so the requisite three extra vehicles went through.  The third vehicle was an e-bike ridden by a Just Eat branded courier, who for some reason was too busy staring at me (I've no idea why, I wasn't on a recumbent or anything) that he missed the fact that there was nowhere for the RLJers to go and they'd stopped in the middle of the box junction.  Cue unskilled emergency braking (locking the rear wheel) and nearly skidding into the back of the car in front, followed by an undignified scrabble to remain upright.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: perpetual dan on February 06, 2019, 09:08:53 pm
I’m going to nominate Mr In A HURRY In My BMW of Brighton.
This morning, as I walked to work, he screeched round a corner to a halt in front of me. It’s a 20 zone and that wasn’t 20. Then, despite his obvious hurry, got out and started shouting and approaching a woman. I think she’d had the temerity to cross the road in front of him. Then there were about 8 of us stopped and expecting trouble, my phone coming out for a photo, someone else suggesting he was going too fast and should chill out. He then left, with more screeching round corners and going too fast down residential streets.
I hope he crashes into a thing rather than a person.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Wowbagger on February 18, 2019, 02:31:10 pm
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.5457584,0.7032503,19.82z refers.

I was cycling in a westerly direction in primary position, approaching the junction of Harcourt Ave and Chelmsford Ave, about to execute a right turn followed by a left into North Road. A white Smart/Aygo type car suddenly appeared 6 inches away from my right elbow, also turned rignt and then left, and then stopped. I stopped and tapped on the drivers window. The driver looked up at me and I said "I'd like to talk to you."

She wound the window down.

"Why did you overtake me just then?"

Blank look. "Just when?"

"About 10 seconds ago, as I was about to turn right out of Harcourt Avenue. Didn't you see me?"

Sigh. "Yes, I saw you. I'm sorry. I was preoccupied. There's an awful lot going on in my life at the moment."

"Same for me, and I'd like it to carry on doing just that and not have it cut short by an inattentive motorist. Thank you."

And off I rode, feeling terribly guilty because the poor woman seemed to be about to burst into tears. Five minutes later, after I left my erstwhile destination of the doctors' surgery, I saw her again. I think she had been sitting in her car trying to get a grip for all the time I was there.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Peat on February 18, 2019, 02:49:28 pm
Don't feel guilty. Maybe you were the intervention she was longing for.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kev Sp8 on February 19, 2019, 03:36:08 pm
At the tail end of yesterday's DIY 200, entering Devizes at the start of rush hour, moron in a 4x4 and towing a trailer that was wider than his car attempted to overtake me, but part of the trailer hit my right leg. Luckily I disengaged from the pedal and was just able to stay upright despite pinballing betwixt trailer and kerb.
Put in an 800W sprint to catch him, but he soon turned into the local DIY shop car park. Tapped on his passenger side window to ask if he even knew he'd just hit me, to be met with, 'Touch my f*cking car and I'll knock your teeth out.'
I should've left him to his one man fifedom of twattery; instead I invited him to demonstrate. He got out, walked round to me, whereupon I encouraged him to have a sit down. I should have been the bigger man and walked away. I'm not proud. I sort of am
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: hulver on February 19, 2019, 05:02:38 pm
Just a point of order people.

DOTD is for cycling dicks.
The Motorised moron (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=63751.0) thread is for motorised bell-ends.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: mattc on February 19, 2019, 08:10:35 pm
Just a point of order people.

DOTD is for cycling dicks.
The Motorised moron (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=63751.0) thread is for motorised bell-ends.
Well made.

But I'm glad it didn't stop Kev posting  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: pumpkin on February 20, 2019, 11:36:23 am
At the tail end of yesterday's DIY 200, entering Devizes at the start of rush hour, moron in a 4x4 and towing a trailer that was wider than his car attempted to overtake me, but part of the trailer hit my right leg. Luckily I disengaged from the pedal and was just able to stay upright despite pinballing betwixt trailer and kerb.
Put in an 800W sprint to catch him, but he soon turned into the local DIY shop car park. Tapped on his passenger side window to ask if he even knew he'd just hit me, to be met with, 'Touch my f*cking car and I'll knock your teeth out.'
I should've left him to his one man fifedom of twattery; instead I invited him to demonstrate. He got out, walked round to me, whereupon I encouraged him to have a sit down. I should have been the bigger man and walked away. I'm not proud. I sort of am

Sometimes remaining nr. the vehicle if they are getting out upsets them. I have been known to sit on my bike near (but not too close) to the offending vehicle. This generally means the driver is forced to stay with the vehicle or is on edge when they go about their business. Of course they will offer violence but I invite them to ring the police and see what the police have to say. On one occasion, I may have gone back and removed the front number plate - my memory isn't what it was so I'm not sure.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: essexian on February 22, 2019, 07:58:48 am
DOTD????

https://road.cc/content/news/256624-court-told-road-rage-cyclist-tried-rip-door-merc-he-failed-did-rip-wing-mirror

Part of me wants to say yes and part of me wonders if the driver is up before the Beak....nah, that's as likely as me becoming a member of the SBS.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Ham on February 22, 2019, 08:10:28 am
May I share the image from my reading of that Roadcc page, complete with ads?

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-d92wfFx_sTE/XG-uOiEGt0I/AAAAAAAC6j4/OLudmHvjKcEFA_-1aqbDNegvaecpF30YwCKgBGAs/s1600/roadcc.png)

 ;D
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: nicknack on March 18, 2019, 11:00:04 am
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/mar/18/london-cyclist-critical-condition-kicked-off-bike-hackney
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DuncanM on March 21, 2019, 09:02:30 am
I've been left hooked by a car before, but today was the first time I've witnessed a cyclist right hook a car!
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Warneford+Ln,+Oxford/@51.7506611,-1.2243504,20.25z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4876c15d5b2a8c35:0x39e02a8e84b4d079!8m2!3d51.751793!4d-1.2228897
Driving along Warneford lane towards the roundabout, the car in front of me slowed and stopped to allow a cyclist on the roundabout to pass.  It then indicated left and entered the roundabout to turn left down Divinity Road. As they slowed, a person on an MTB undertook the car (in a cycle lane), and attempted to take the second exit on the roundabout, crossing the path of the car. Thankfully, the car stopped. The person on a MTB slowed slightly, swerved and carried on.
The driver could have indicated a bit earlier, but was otherwise blameless. If the person on MTB repeats that manoever, there is likely to be a collision. :(
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on March 21, 2019, 09:46:39 am
Not exactly rare though. Riding right round the outside of a roundabout, crossing every exit to reach the one you want, used to be (still is?) a recommended technique for cyclists in the Highway Code.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DuncanM on March 21, 2019, 10:29:25 am
Not exactly rare though. Riding right round the outside of a roundabout, crossing every exit to reach the one you want, used to be (still is?) a recommended technique for cyclists in the Highway Code.
It's surprisingly rare at that roundabout (I drive it every day). Most cyclists will indicate and move to the middle of the lane if they are tuning right.
Doing so while not indicating after passing a left indicating car is just putting yourself in danger.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on March 21, 2019, 10:34:13 am
I tried the technique one, way back when, and decided it was putting yourself in danger however at any roundabout. The appeal of "keeping out of the way" is clear to unconfident cyclists but it really is not safe.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Kim on March 21, 2019, 12:17:51 pm
Not exactly rare though. Riding right round the outside of a roundabout, crossing every exit to reach the one you want, used to be (still is?) a recommended technique for cyclists in the Highway Code.

I don't think I've done that since Cycling Proficiency, and thinking about it, I don't recall seeing it done in the wild (I've seen cyclists take bad lines at roundabouts, of course, but not the actual gutter-hugging-while-indicating-right thing we were taught).  I suspect those who think it's a good idea are the ones who bail to the pavement as soon as there's a roundabout, possibly due to bad experiences.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on March 21, 2019, 01:10:07 pm
Yeah, it's the gutter-hugging line I was thinking of. I don't think I've seen anyone doing the signalling right at the same time. I don't know if anyone's doing it because they learnt it umpty years ago, probably more likely they're just scared of "getting in the way."
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: DuncanM on March 21, 2019, 01:26:09 pm
In this case, I think he was just zipping down the cycle lane and trying to jump ahead of the car (and hadn't seen the cyclist on the roundabout - he almost ran into the back of her). IMO it was down to carelessness plus rushing, not timidity.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: winnet on March 21, 2019, 04:13:46 pm
My nomination would be the guy on the MTB at a massive roundabout near Aberdeen. Cycling on the road rather than using the beautiful cycle path at the side, coming down the inside of my car, then taking the entry corner wide as well as cutting over into the lane.

And to top it all he had headphones in so was oblivious to the rush hour traffic.

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Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Feanor on March 21, 2019, 06:56:16 pm
The 'not using the cycle path' has raised my hackles a bit!

You do understand that theres no requirement to do so, and in plenty of cases its inappropriate?
Riding a road bike at 30+ kph is not appropriate for shared use cycle paths, and the road is the right place.
Also, dear old Aberdeen and shire cooncils do not treat the cycle paths, which are dangerously icy in winter.

Filtering through slow moving or stationary traffic, eg at the approach to junctions or roundabouts is fine, so long as you don't filter up the inside of traffic turning left and put yourself in danger.

Can you elaborate on exactly what roundabout this was, and what direction you were approaching from?

I ride in the Westhill Kingswells road and over the Kingswells rab every day, and yes, I get shouted at by usually one person each day.

F.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: winnet on March 22, 2019, 10:49:38 am
I agree that sometimes it is better being on the road given the way they have messed up the cycle paths, combining the bikes and people doesn’t always work. The section in from Westhill to Aberdeen is generally well used.

It is the new Kingsford roundabout approaching from Westhill.

What probably rattled my cage was the way he came up on my inside when I was at the line. When cycling I have always hold back at least a car length so the driver can see me, I don’t fancy becoming a statistic.

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Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: Pingu on March 22, 2019, 11:01:17 am
That's not what I would call a 'beautiful cycle path'.
Title: Re: DOTD
Post by: CycleCommute.CC on March 22, 2019, 11:49:04 am
My nomination would be the guy on the MTB at a massive roundabout near Aberdeen. Cycling on the road rather than using the beautiful cycle path at the side, coming down the inside of my car, then taking the entry corner wide as well as cutting over into the lane.

And to top it all he had headphones in so was oblivious to the rush hour traffic.
There are cycle paths for probably 50% of my commute from West Lothian into Edinburgh. However I would choose to ride them for probably 0% of the time. They are untreated, covered in debris, shared use (so runners, walkers, dogs, etc.) and force you to stop every 2 mins.

Just because this guy had headphones on, how do you know he was oblivious to traffic?