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Title: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Riggers on May 09, 2014, 12:41:35 pm
Yes! Come on the Netherlands. Nice song, by The Common Linnets. I will be glued to it tomorrow. Perhaps it's the gay side of me, who knows.


No need to comment Hummers.

Quick revamp of 'em all here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5iFGGAKjGc
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: pcolbeck on May 09, 2014, 01:40:06 pm
That really is rather good. How did it manage to get selected for Eurovision ?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Riggers on May 09, 2014, 02:06:31 pm
Yes, is good isn't it. Bit like the Civil Wars.

Now, that there Austrian singer seems an odd cove. Can't quite put my finger on it.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: mattc on May 09, 2014, 06:11:16 pm
That is the best entry I've heard since ... well, possibly Abba/Bucks Fizz (but that's an apples/pears comparison).

Sadly it's totally un-Eurovision, and too good to win!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 09, 2014, 09:12:07 pm
I.Can't.Wait.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 09, 2014, 09:13:26 pm
You.Will.Have.To.

And.So.Will.I.

 :(

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 09, 2014, 09:18:49 pm
Tomorrow. I. Will. Buy. Advocaat. SNOWBALLS!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 09, 2014, 09:32:32 pm
Wot, not Lambrini?

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 09, 2014, 09:38:23 pm
No, I like something more sophisticated for Eurovision.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Auntie Helen on May 09, 2014, 10:10:04 pm
The Germans take this seriously.

I Might have to pop into Kempen and find a bar or something with it on. But it's an hour later here so the judging will take forever!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 03:21:51 pm
I quite like Molly, the UK entry, but then I thought last years entry by Dingleberry Pompadeau was good and it came nowhere.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Exit Stage Left on May 10, 2014, 03:43:48 pm
That's probably because it was Bonnie Tyler last year.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 07:43:30 pm
Was Dingleberry two years ago, blimey. I liked it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFNv9pjqZkk

My favourite bit was the emoting, see him move his hand up and down on the key change? Genius.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 08:13:43 pm
Here we go!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:18:22 pm
That hamster wheel thingy could be the new BMF, coming to a park near you soon.

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 08:20:15 pm
Where does a hamster wheel come in the Eurovision drinking game? I quite like this Belarus nonsense, although I do not like cheesecake.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 08:20:34 pm
"I look over Google maps to escape, cos I'm tired of being your sweet cheesecake"



Tidybeard man.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Exit Stage Left on May 10, 2014, 08:20:49 pm
Ken Bruce commentary is in synch this year, available on red button.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:21:07 pm
Belarus are rubbish.

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 08:22:09 pm
I thought the first singer looked much nicer in the short intro film, before she got caked in slap.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:23:24 pm
... before she got caked in slap.

Is that a euphemism?

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 08:24:03 pm
TRAPEZE ALERT!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 08:24:27 pm
The Azerbajin lady is dragging the notes out too long:

(http://memeguy.com/photos/thumbs/whats-whitney-houstons-favorite-type-of-coordination-108321.jpg)
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:25:55 pm
They missed a trick by not giving the trapeze woman a sign saying F5.

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:26:17 pm
Here come The Wiggles.

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:27:55 pm
Do they keep singing "rancid piss"?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 08:28:53 pm
Iceland look like Split Enz.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 08:28:59 pm
The Iceland mob have hipster haircuts. 5/10. Also people don't look the same inside, suppose one has lung cancer?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:31:06 pm
Do you think Norway don't want to host the jamboree next year?

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 08:34:49 pm
Stone me, you can't chuck a brick without hitting a tidy beard, this ghastly fart-knocker's even trimmed his eyebrows.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:35:59 pm
Oooh, your gonna love Austria spindrift.

 :D
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 08:42:11 pm
Titanic intro rip-off.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 08:42:41 pm
Ice-skater alert!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 08:42:59 pm
No wind machines yet.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 08:44:00 pm
I missed it - how did the geopolitical underdogs Ukraine do?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:44:45 pm
Were they the ones with the hamster wheel?

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 08:45:37 pm
They had a hamster wheel and a pretty woman with a lot of hair and a big dress.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 08:46:14 pm
I just love the sight of a pretty girl in a hamster wheel.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:47:53 pm
She wasn't in the hamster wheel, there was a bloke in it.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 08:48:25 pm
She was on top of the hamster wheel. Made me nervous.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 08:48:50 pm
This Polish thing is a bit pimpy.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 08:49:17 pm
Anyway, forget hamster wheels. I'm now wanting to visit Poland. With a milk churn.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 08:50:24 pm
"Did I mention this used to be a dockyard?" says Graham.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 08:50:56 pm
Rapping's such a versatile art form.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:52:08 pm
Where's the trampolinist gone?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 08:52:32 pm
I wonder what on Earth any visiting Americans think of Eurovision. I'm fairly Euro-adapted but even I find it simply weird.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:52:46 pm
and there he is.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 08:53:43 pm
WTFuckity fuck?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:54:37 pm
The trampoline or Conchita?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 08:55:58 pm
In the semis she was a bit of a let down, good voice but no drama. She needs to let her inner Shirley Bassey out.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 08:56:53 pm
Best voice so far, no question.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Auntie Helen on May 10, 2014, 08:57:39 pm
German commentator just said 'Man or woman, beard or no beard, that was a James Bond song.' (about Austria'
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:00:02 pm
The bearded woman was deffo best singer so far. Big gob as well.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:00:25 pm
German lady's good but looks like she got dressed in Cyndi Lauper's bedroom with the light out.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:00:36 pm
Germany's a bit earnest student, that accordian player needs to put a bit of Belleville Rendezvous into it.

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:04:19 pm
The chemistry between those two was literally non-existent.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:05:33 pm
This is the first time we have listened to Graham's commentary, previously having Ken Bruce and non-live internet streaming.

Not sure who is better yet.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:07:11 pm
Sweden might win, this is good. I'm not sure how you undo sad.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:07:47 pm
The Swedish woman might as well be singing about how her heart will go on. Is that really the favourite?

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:08:40 pm
Tying fireworks to bikes, they'll get letters.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:09:19 pm
Jesus H Corbett, look at these horrors.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:10:09 pm
I was asking Vernon what had happened to Jedward just the other day.

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:10:33 pm
Lazytown innit?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Tewdric on May 10, 2014, 09:10:39 pm
I love the French bloke.

Not that I'm watching it, obviously..
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Tewdric on May 10, 2014, 09:11:38 pm
He's a cross between bobb and tintin!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:12:40 pm
I reckon the Russian girls have got hair they could sit on!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:14:30 pm
So, that's where the control rods for Orac went.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:15:10 pm
It's a pontoon bridge for the invasion.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:15:26 pm
Nighties, lightsabres and a see-saw. What's not to like?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:17:39 pm
"Which I absent-minded wedge into this city's intrusive manhole"

That's what my subtitles said. What does it mean?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 09:18:47 pm
I don't like the Italian one. It's like a Girls Aloud b-side.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:19:40 pm
""I like parking inattentively""

I reckon they're taking the piss.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:19:52 pm
Are the lyrics in the subtitles, then?

If so, I'll invest the time to figure out how to get subtitles.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:21:52 pm
Nah, they're a product of spinner's overactive imagination.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 09:22:33 pm
Lyric subtitles are in the red button.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:22:39 pm
You filthy liar! That's what she sang!

Hang on, why's Liz Jones on?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:24:05 pm
presumably the Mail doesn't pay well enough to support her horse habit.

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Tewdric on May 10, 2014, 09:25:44 pm
TIME WARP it's 1985 again..
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:26:32 pm
CHESNEY!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:27:26 pm
More like Helstinki, amirite?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:27:55 pm
Lyric subtitles are in the red button.

Thanks! I've never pressed the red button before. It's offering the option to "change audio" as well. That's certainly been a tempting option for a couple of the entries.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 09:29:52 pm
Finland sound like Coldplay. I dislike Coldplay.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:32:20 pm
Swiss bloke's making a flag out of nazi gold.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:32:49 pm
More beards for spindrift.

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:34:09 pm
The banjo player has a cracking 'tache.

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:34:33 pm
Looks like an eleven year old squadron leader.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Tewdric on May 10, 2014, 09:34:49 pm
None of them are actually singing are they?  It's all mime.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:34:56 pm
"Like an evil satellite"
...
"I'm so wet I'm dirty"

Fantastic stuff.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 09:35:23 pm
It's like Mumford and Sons except I like it.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:36:02 pm
None of them are actually singing are they?  It's all mime.

How very dare you  >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:37:40 pm
Curiously expressive eyebrows.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:38:02 pm
Is that a lyric?

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:38:23 pm
Mucho discussion about the Swiss entry in the Pancho house. It was generally roundly condemned as "the sort of thing Daddy would like". Hmm.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Graeme on May 10, 2014, 09:39:23 pm
My only insight to the singalong is this thread... It is like listening to the cricket.  I feel the yacf commentary is all I need to know.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:39:38 pm
What's with the girl getting duffed up?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 09:40:08 pm
Was that a Hungary song about child abuse? That's not very Eurovisiony.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:40:50 pm
Do one, Maltese beard face.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Tewdric on May 10, 2014, 09:41:12 pm
Maltford and sons!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:41:58 pm
Wistful, or recent head injury?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnTTSZJIgAEV2LL.jpg)
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:42:11 pm
What's that lozenge shaped thing he's playing?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:44:55 pm
Apparently, Russia was boo-ed in the semi-finals!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:45:46 pm
Samira Ahmed ‏ @SamiraAhmedUK 45s

So in the Copenhagen #eurovision auditorium @OwenThomasTV confirms the stage announcer told the audience during the films not to boo Russia.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:45:59 pm
I'm getting the feeling that hosting it once is enough for Denmark and they're making sure there's no chance of a repeat.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:46:55 pm
"Now I'm feelin' blue

Gotta break thru

To you

Oooo"
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 09:47:18 pm
I like Denmark. I like the skubadubaduba and the dancing.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:47:28 pm
Now I'm having New Edition flashbacks.

Aaarrrgggghhhh.

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Vernon on May 10, 2014, 09:48:04 pm
I'm getting the feeling that hosting it once is enough for Denmark and they're making sure there's no chance of a repeat.

No, it's better than my little horsey
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:50:29 pm
Bit of C&W from the Dutch. A Dutch cowboy! Hang on, wouldn't that be Amish?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:50:55 pm
The downside of subtitles is that I have a roomfull of wives and daughters singing along.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 09:52:38 pm
The downside of subtitles is that I have a roomfull of wives and daughters singing along.

I didn't know you were a Mormon, Pancho.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Vernon on May 10, 2014, 09:53:02 pm
Bit of C&W from the Dutch. A Dutch cowboy! Hang on, wouldn't that be Amish?

That's TheMish to you ;)
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:53:12 pm
Botticelli
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:56:44 pm
Botticelli

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Sandro_Botticelli_-_La_nascita_di_Venere_-_Google_Art_Project_-_edited.jpg/400px-Sandro_Botticelli_-_La_nascita_di_Venere_-_Google_Art_Project_-_edited.jpg)
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:57:13 pm
Ours was the best flag.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Tewdric on May 10, 2014, 09:57:42 pm
I'm worried we're going to win!  :sick:
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:58:13 pm
Botticelli

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0b/Sandro_Botticelli_-_La_nascita_di_Venere_-_Google_Art_Project_-_edited.jpg/400px-Sandro_Botticelli_-_La_nascita_di_Venere_-_Google_Art_Project_-_edited.jpg)

(http://metrouk2.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/1000x665132.jpg?w=650&h=432&crop=1#038;h=665)
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 09:59:15 pm
Eurovision Fact #541:

San Marino could be completely carpeted for less than £500.

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 09:59:20 pm
I'm sure she must have better songs. This one's very parson's egg. Overall unsatisfying.

But I hope she wins. 'Cos I'm irrationally patriotic at times.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 09:59:44 pm
I'm worried we're going to win!  :sick:
Everyone hates Russia more than they hate us this year, so we might not come last.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 10:01:10 pm
Who's the bird (and she is birdlike) in the green room? Someone feed her, please.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 10:04:00 pm
I think everybody should vote for San Marino.

Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 10:05:50 pm
SAN MARINO'S WAS LIKE A SONG FROM A MUSICAL, EVEN DOWN TO A TALKY BIT AT THE END.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 10:06:05 pm
sorry for shouting
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 10:06:56 pm
I am swithering between Iceland and Denmark.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Clare on May 10, 2014, 10:08:26 pm
SAN MARINO'S WAS LIKE A SONG FROM A MUSICAL, EVEN DOWN TO A TALKY BIT AT THE END.

Yebbut, imagine if they won, how the heck would San Marino stage Eurovision?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 10:08:49 pm
They'd have to build an extension.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 10:09:25 pm
Hmm.

Poland - purely for unnecessary cleavage? or
Iceland - for capturing the bonkersness of Eurovision?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 10:10:31 pm
Sweden-shit
France-shit on toast
That cheesecake one-horrible
Polish tit wank-unpleasant
Molly, best flag but she'll lose for being named after a Class A drug.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 10, 2014, 10:10:59 pm
Hmm.

Poland - purely for unnecessary cleavage? or
Iceland - for capturing the bonkersness of Eurovision?
Well, who do you most want to watch again?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 10:12:51 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnTZoLhIMAENc83.jpg)

I think they run an exotic cage bird shop in Krakow. Biggest parakeets I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 10:13:36 pm
Always thought Beethoven didn't use harmonicas enough.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 10:19:50 pm
Just off to start a thread "Planning a cycling holiday to Poland".
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 10:22:16 pm
I'm hoping for some bad-tempered exchanges when the presenters ask for each country's vote.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Vernon on May 10, 2014, 10:27:07 pm
It's the final countdown!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 10:27:49 pm
Alex Andreou @sturdyAlexPlease DO NOT vote for #Greece. We can basically afford either to host this next year or a health service.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 10:30:48 pm
If I voted it would be Netherlands.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Thor on May 10, 2014, 10:32:47 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnTZoLhIMAENc83.jpg)

I think they run an exotic cage bird shop in Krakow. Biggest parakeets I've ever seen.

Lock up Lembit Opik!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 10:34:05 pm
The presenter looks like Princess Kate.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 10:34:25 pm
This interlude-y bit is utterly surreal.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Vernon on May 10, 2014, 10:37:34 pm
Dancing Ents!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 10, 2014, 10:38:25 pm
The best thing about Molly's song was the Children of the uni


verse.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 10, 2014, 10:40:17 pm
I'm going to bed. I'll have to find out who won tomorrow!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Jaded on May 10, 2014, 11:12:01 pm
I'm worried we're going to win!  :sick:

I'm not.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Graeme on May 10, 2014, 11:28:22 pm
Yay for the winner... Notified by text by number one wife.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: spindrift on May 11, 2014, 01:08:23 am
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnTzZZAIMAAbrFx.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: tonycollinet on May 11, 2014, 04:52:38 pm
I find it makes me surprisingly hopeful for the future, that one who presents such a non conventional gender ID is voted winner in a european wide contest.

The fact that she is also (IMO) the second best singer is a bonus.

Brilliant.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 11, 2014, 05:04:56 pm
Has everyone forgotten Dana International?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 11, 2014, 05:50:00 pm
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BnTzZZAIMAAbrFx.jpg:large)

Is that a bottle of Night Nurse he's knocking back?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: mattc on May 11, 2014, 07:08:14 pm
Has everyone forgotten Dana International?
I had. Until now  ::-)
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: tonycollinet on May 11, 2014, 10:38:09 pm
So had I - but I still think Conchita is more significant - because of the almost aggressively* unconventional ID she presents.



*possibly not the best word.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Valiant on May 12, 2014, 05:01:57 am
Conchita is more significant because people knew before hand. I'm happy she won but it wasn't my fave song.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Riggers on May 12, 2014, 08:46:42 am
Well. Now then. What an evening. Number of 'Bond' sounding songs. How the hell did Armenia get so many votes!!??

I felt myself strangely drawn to focus a bit more carefully when Poland started singing. Can't remember the song that well. Poland should use those girls for tourism purposes.

Austria's result says so much more than folks liking just the song.

And I was so pleased The Netherlands almost won!!!!
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: pcolbeck on May 12, 2014, 09:35:46 am
The Polish entry wasn’t written for Eurovision. It was already a hit in Poland last year. It's supposed to be a parody on traditional stereotypes of Polish women.
This makes more sense with original video than the Eurovision performance. With the original Polish lyrics the parody is obvious apparently.

http://youtu.be/BQp7z8yYZUI
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on May 12, 2014, 12:36:36 pm
Conchita is more significant because people knew before hand. I'm happy she won but it wasn't my fave song.
It was all over the news beforehand that Dana International is a trans woman.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: TimC on May 12, 2014, 01:29:44 pm
Conchita is more significant because people knew before hand. I'm happy she won but it wasn't my fave song.
It was all over the news beforehand that Dana International is a trans woman.

Yes, I don't remember being surprised by Dana International - she'd been the subject of quite a lot of publicity and discussion prior to the event. Conchita Wurst seems to be a little different. As far as I've read, she's a 'drag' (I hate that term!) act, very well known in Austria (a bit like Lily Savage but somewhat less grating!), and the actor is Tom Neuwirth who's an ex-boy band member. I don't know if Tom regards himself as trans in any way other than cross-dressing, though he dresses as a man when not being Conchita - much like Paul O'Grady. I get the impression he's been somewhat taken by surprise in being regarded as a figurehead for sexual tolerance, but s/he's adopted the role very well on the relatively few occasions when anyone's given her the opportunity to speak rather than sing.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: mattc on May 12, 2014, 06:00:42 pm
The Polish entry wasn’t written for Eurovision. It was already a hit in Poland last year. It's supposed to be a parody on traditional stereotypes of Polish women.
This makes more sense with original video than the Eurovision performance. With the original Polish lyrics the parody is obvious apparently.

http://youtu.be/BQp7z8yYZUI

What a load of twaddle. Like many many artists before them ,desperate for attention, they've gone for the soft-porn/titallation marketing option. (note: the original video has even more flesh and titillation - I've watched it  ;D )


http://wiwibloggs.com/2014/02/28/lyrics-slavic-girls-parody/41021/#
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Milk running down their cheeks and over their thrusting cleavage isn’t just there to titilate. It plays on the supposed role of women in traditional society: to be angels in the kitchen and wantons in the bedroom.

Genius. They've played on this by showing - guess what - angelic girls in the kitchen, who are then wantons in the bedroom! All in revealing costumes, just in case we were too dense to understand the "parody"!

I feel so much more educated now.

pcolbeck , I hope your use of "it's supposed to be" is sincere.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 12, 2014, 06:27:33 pm
According to the Grauniad (sorry, I have to read it as I've reached my free article limit with the Telegraph and haven't got round to rinsing my cookies), the Polish entrants won the open telephone voting. What's democracy good for, eh?
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Steph on May 13, 2014, 05:23:42 pm
In case there is still someone unaware, CW translates somewhat freely as 'fanny sausage'. Obvious reference.

I note TimC's reference to 'drag' and his dislike of it. 'Drag' is actually a very specific term, and is well-used in the broad church that covers transgendered people--the "TG Umbrella". There are fundamental differences between drag queens/kings and crossdressers, arising from the different mindsets that are involved. Drag tends in most cases to extend and exaggerate the 'cisgender norm' and often takes it to parody. Watch 'Priscilla' or RuPaul for ideas on that one. Lily Savage is over the top clothes-wise, but the act works more through the personality of the character rather than the frocks.

Crossdressing is an entirely different kettle of fish, horribly complicated, and a totally foreign country to me. Leaving aside 'Genderqueer', those of us who fall into the TS group are a lot simpler to explain. We just have a few issues with our bodies, in the main.

Now, I don't know where Tom/CW falls on that spectrum, but he's done a lot of us a big service by pissing off an awful lot of homophobes. Hint to the Russians, Ugandans, etc: wearing a skirt makes you neither a woman or a gay man. Bigotry isn't that simple.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Auntie Helen on May 13, 2014, 05:31:37 pm
According to an article I read in German somewhere, the Wurst thing wasn't about body parts but was an allusion to a German idiom. Can't find where I read it though.

(http://www.toytowngermany.com/forum/uploads/monthly_05_2014/post-9625-13999943321923.jpg)
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: LEE on May 13, 2014, 05:39:41 pm
According to an article I read in German somewhere, the Wurst thing wasn't about body parts but was an allusion to a German idiom. Can't find where I read it though.


No rush.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Auntie Helen on May 13, 2014, 05:40:49 pm
Here you go then:

http://www.dict.cc/?s=Es+ist+mir+wurst
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Pancho on May 13, 2014, 07:28:42 pm
Hint to the Russians, Ugandans, etc: wearing a skirt makes you neither a woman or a gay man.

You could be Scottish.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: juliet on May 13, 2014, 07:38:08 pm
I had a long debate about Dana I vs Conchita on Saturday night. (When it would have been far more sensible to GO TO BED in preparation for bright&early waking of smallperson, but there we go.) I contended that Conchita is more in-yer-face; the other party involved contended that Dana I was more threatening (specifically to the average straight male) because more subtle, ie one might accidentally fancy her without realising o-the-horror. Whereas Conchita is more obvious. (NB as neither of us is a straight male I have no idea how accurate this is; the OPI has a better claim to knowledge than I do but is also more cynical.)

I was happy at the result, anyway :)
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Steph on May 14, 2014, 02:06:43 am
Juliet has struck the nail there. A very large proportion of transphobia is tied up in the fear of fancying a transwoman. There is a perception that they are sent by Satan to entice Real Men to spend their Precious Bodily Fluids in a bogus gaymosexual orifice, and then lead them into a life of puddle-jumping and knowing what they have in their wardrobes. That is why so many of them have to be raped by Real Men.

Drag acts don't do that, because they are intended to be 'read' and thus don't carry the threat. Dana I was simply a good-looking woman with a past, whereas CW is clearly drag and thus non-threatening. I write as someone who is as likely to entice a Real Man as I am to catch a unicorn, but then I hardly have the desire for either...
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Valiant on May 14, 2014, 03:27:07 am
Hint to the Russians, Ugandans, etc: wearing a skirt makes you neither a woman or a gay man.

You could be Scottish.

Or Asian/Indian/Polyneasian etc
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Steph on May 14, 2014, 05:16:32 pm
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-27404406

Interesting references to the groundswell of Russian opinion, rather than the usual "one man, one vote*" attitudes we usually see from that benighted country.

*That man is, of course, Putin.
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 15, 2014, 11:11:06 am
Juliet has struck the nail there. A very large proportion of transphobia is tied up in the fear of fancying a transwoman. There is a perception that they are sent by Satan to entice Real Men to spend their Precious Bodily Fluids in a bogus gaymosexual orifice, and then lead them into a life of puddle-jumping and knowing what they have in their wardrobes. That is why so many of them have to be raped by Real Men.
I know two people who have had this happen to them.

Drag acts don't do that, because they are intended to be 'read' and thus don't carry the threat. Dana I was simply a good-looking woman with a past, whereas CW is clearly drag and thus non-threatening. I write as someone who is as likely to entice a Real Man as I am to catch a unicorn, but then I hardly have the desire for either...
While being 'straight' (ie, I'm attracted to women), to me oddly CW looks 'attractive'. It would be interesting to analyse why; 'drag' acts do nothing for me. Probably some odd combination of voice, eyes and suchlike.

I find the Russian posturing laughable. It sounds so insecure; they come across as so terrified of discovering that deep down, they really want it . . .
Title: Re: Eurovision 2014
Post by: Riggers on May 15, 2014, 01:55:29 pm
Ahhh, how very true. Methinks thems do protest too much! If only people were more accepting and forgiving.