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General Category => Audax => Topic started by: Jonah on May 10, 2015, 09:51:33 am

Title: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 10, 2015, 09:51:33 am
OK folks, I'm attempting Crackpot tomorrow.  I have finally decided to take up the challenge now that I've got a bit of time off.  As you may be aware, Shawn Shaw is 'considering' re releasing this ride as a calendar event now that it is nearly 20-years old!  I am certainly aware that many riders have asked/begged Shawn to put the ride on again.

I aim to start at around lunch time tomorrow.  I have found the later start aids riding through the first night no-end.

AndyP has kindly offered to update this post with my progress on the ride which may be of interest to future riders if/when Shawn puts the ride on again.

See you in Hell :demon:
Jonah
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on May 10, 2015, 09:55:28 am
Good luck Jonah, and thanks in advance to Andy!
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Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 10, 2015, 10:08:51 am
See you in Hell :demon:

Godspeed
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on May 10, 2015, 10:21:19 am
Steady does it. It's a lovely ride.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on May 10, 2015, 10:52:18 am
Great stuff Jonah!

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on May 10, 2015, 11:05:50 am
Bon route.
Tempted to come along with you.
But not really enough time to get ready and legs are feeling a little tired just now after a fixed Severn Across.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 10, 2015, 11:33:51 am
Bonne courage!

I look forward to updates and I hope the weather is kind to you as those hills sure won't be.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Lars on May 10, 2015, 03:29:30 pm
Have fun Jonah!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 10, 2015, 04:20:07 pm
You been on the sauce?

(click to show/hide)

I am almost envious.  Have a good slog.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: mds101 on May 10, 2015, 04:49:14 pm
Have a good one J.
Looks like some decent warmth as well for a change.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Pete Mas on May 10, 2015, 07:27:17 pm
Good luck - to man and machine.
Take a few pics for us all.
Look forward to the updates.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 10, 2015, 09:37:35 pm
Good luck Justin!

...I found a pdf of the routesheet from the calendar event -- the introduction was:

Thank you for your interest in the 3rd running of the
Crackpot 1000km

Since planning events of any distance I have always felt that
one should ignore contours. The response has always been
most encouraging; continualy closing the frontier between
Classic and impossible. And so it is with the Crackpot.
So what were the criteria in plotting the route? No straight out
and back; keep it cheap; keep it all on one map (The West
Country Tourist Board Official Tourist Map, Wessex. Estate
Publications). Involve experienced organisers using their
homes if possible allowing for maximum recuperation; keep
the cafes, restaurants and cash gobbling motorway services to
a minimum. Keep it interesting.
Having arranged the bare bones next consider how to ride it;
devise a schedule. Break it into stages; Ride the first night and
all day and expect to cover 500km in the first 24hrs. Sleep and
eat and look at 300km for the next 24 hrs before more sleep
leaving a nice steady 200km to finish. That sounds quite good.
Average speed for 1st spell: 21kph. 8hrs sleep leaves average
speed of 18.75 kph for 2nd spell. 6hrs sleep will leave me
12hrs 40min with 200km to go (16kph).

Time to glance at the contours. Good Grief! One counts. One
calculates. One shudders. Classic? Impossible? - A Razors
edge between.

The event is off the AAA scale. The 7 AAA points are
calculated by adding the pts first 400 to the pts for the next
600. Only the very best will keep to the original schedule.
Time to rethink.

The controls as far as and including Axminster have a min
speed of 15kph and closing times reflect this. Tor Hole will
close at a time calculated on an overall min speed of
13.3km/hr. The effect is to make Tor Hole the natural sleep
stop with so much time in hand built in (4hrs 24min). West
Stafford and Codford will also have floor space allowing for a
good kip. On a murderous nay suicidal route of this distance it
is essential that you schedule your ride; that you have a plan
at the outset; anyone who finds they do not break their
schedule is having the ride of their life!

A condition of entry is that you provide a schedule with the
entry form and it should be as realistic as possible please.The
controls will be of greater help to you the rider if we know
beforehand that riders are not being over ambitious.

The Crackpot 1000 is the severest test of stamina, endurance,
determination, grit stretching beyond 'challenging'. The Hard
Boiled was a challenge; so was the Porkers; Brimstone is still
a challenge. The Crackpot is there, taunting, haunting,
tempting you; gnawing your marrow; eating into the very
fibre of the raison d’etre of long distance cycling.
Challenging.

Prepare well. If you are in the very least not sound in wind
and limb you will struggle and be an additional danger to
yourself and other road users around you. At best you will
struggle; at worst you will suffer the agonies of the damned.
Have you read the routesheet yet? Do so many times before
the day and do so with a map so that you get the overall
picture as well. Know the route. Memorize the tricky bits.

Please note that we make no allowances for the dark. Trunk
rds as night stages are out. Winding, dirty, dusty, narrow,
country lanes are in. Lights to see with will mean that you can
avoid the tussocks, rockfalls and potholes in the pave. Be
prepared to be astounded by 1:4 descents. Brown corduroy
could be making a comeback. Polish up your navigation, you
will need it!

In '96: 21 started: 11 finished. In '98 it was 17 out of 24.
All in all a fine Tour de Wessex.
Enjoy, and safe cycling
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ivan on May 10, 2015, 11:39:59 pm
I shall think of you tomorrow as I ride the 2k between hotel and customer in Amsterdam, featuring at least 3m of climbing.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: 321up on May 11, 2015, 09:05:00 am
Good luck Jonah and have fun.  It would be great to attempt it as a calendar ride.  Anyone got a gpx that we can drool over please?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 11, 2015, 09:09:58 am
...I found a pdf of the routesheet from the calendar event

Or in other words:

Dorset Coast: tickled by a feather
Hardboiled: hit by a cushion.
Porker: hit by a branch.
Brimstone: hit by a brick
Crackpot: a piano drops on your head

It is no secret that I would very much like to do this as a calendar event.  I am viewing Mr Jones as the lab rat.#

Weather sounds good. Radio summarised it in three words this morning: clear, dry and warm.  Or in audax parlance, perfect for the time of year with ample excuses for ice cream, and lager shandies.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 11, 2015, 10:46:37 am
update #1
He's on the 10:05 from Waterloo, Arr. Poole 12:13...

I've got a set of gpx tracks (well, actually, 3 routes, and 1 track, which were all converted to tracks for use on Justin's etrex at about 10.30 last night!) that came from Steve Abraham, if anyone wants to PM me their email address, i'll send them over, with the PDF of the last calendar routesheet/profiles.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 11, 2015, 11:59:57 am
Is the Master of the Unicog sticking to his modus operandi, or has he been overcome with a dose of uncommon sense?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Laid Back Rich on May 11, 2015, 12:38:53 pm
Is the Master of the Unicog sticking to his modus operandi, or has he been overcome with a dose of uncommon sense?

Yesterday I learned from Marcus JB that he never uses more than one gear, he despises multiple gear systems.

A few days ago I quipped that I might try this ride next year, I'm now reconsidering that statement in the light of the above, much as Paddy seems to have reconsidered eating his hat. [edit...a few days ago I was thinking not of the Crackpot, but the Maniac. Same reconsideration applies]
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 11, 2015, 01:15:16 pm
All running to plan:
"After a Weatherspoons breakfast I told Raj from Longfleet Services that I'd hopefully see him again on Thursday - We have lift-off"

can confirm, he is on fixed :o
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 11, 2015, 01:40:56 pm
Has he finished yet?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 11, 2015, 02:52:54 pm
GO JUSTIN(R)(C)

Etc.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Arry-R on May 11, 2015, 08:16:02 pm
Has he finished! !

Are we there yet? !!

 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on May 11, 2015, 08:49:45 pm
All running to plan:
"After a Weatherspoons breakfast I told Raj from Longfleet Services that I'd hopefully see him again on Thursday - We have lift-off"

can confirm, he is on fixed :o

 :thumbsup:

Go that man!

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 11, 2015, 09:16:23 pm
Two texts came through together...
8:16pm (- but must've been written this afternoon 3pm ish)
"At Halstock 65k in. The hills started after 35k and the roads got properly wessex after 60k - the weather is glorious: sunny with a cool breeze. I'm feeling a bit phlegmy but a night out in the lane should sort that out. I'm taking it steadily and hope to ride through the first night. The original advice of stopping for a sleep at 500km and then at 800km seems a good plan but i started at 13:00 which is 7 hrs earlier than the original start so i just might be able to munch some more k if my balls don't crack"
J

8:33pm
"Just arrived in Minehead 157km Bit of a headwind into town which might have worn me down a little. This second stage wasn't that lumpy but the climbing that there was has also served to wear me down. Just refuelling in Weatherspoons again and them off to Bovey Tracey"
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on May 11, 2015, 09:19:58 pm
Two texts came through together...
8:16pm (- but must've been written this afternoon 3pm ish)
"At Halstock 65k in. The hills started after 35k and the roads got properly wessex after 60k - the weather is glorious: sunny with a cool breeze. I'm feeling a bit phlegmy but a night out in the lane should sort that out. I'm taking it steadily and hope to ride through the first night. The original advice of stopping for a sleep at 500km and then at 800km seems a good plan but i started at 13:00 which is 7 hrs earlier than the original start so i just might be able to munch some more k if my balls don't crack"
J

8:33pm
"Just arrived in Minehead 157km Bit of a headwind into town which might have worn me down a little. This second stage wasn't that lumpy but the climbing that there was has also served to wear me down. Just refuelling in Weatherspoons again and them off to Bovey Tracey"

Not Bleddy Buvvy....

That covers some superb countryside   :P

H

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 11, 2015, 09:22:13 pm
Great stuff Andy (and Justin!).

This is exciting and a truly audacious undertaking, especially on t'cog.

I love the comment 'the roads got properly wessex' - any of us who have experienced a Wessex SR can surely picture what Jonah is talking about.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 12, 2015, 08:56:26 am
Another day, another damned hill.

I trust Jonah managed to navigate the back lanes of deepest rural Wessex without the locals capturing the Outsider and maltreating him in a strange but ancient May ritual?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 12, 2015, 10:20:33 am
just to add to the excitement, emails from Justin getting delayed... this has just arrived,  but was written at 04:59:

"Bovey Tracey and nothing is open - sitting on the pavement eating Ritz crackers.  That last section was a mutha fucka!  It was very very lumpy and exposed over Exmoor.  I managed to ride through', save a few micro-naps to stave of the dozzies.  I also had to thwart an attempted double-badger attack"

!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 12, 2015, 10:22:53 am
...and now followed by this sent at 10:17:

"At Culmstock.  Progress is a lot slower than I would have hoped due to complete kack of energy.  I have dtopped for more food.  Last section nowhere near as  hard as the previous - I deserved the break"
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 12, 2015, 02:32:23 pm
14:10
"Just got to Sedgemoor Services after another 60 odd K
Done about 370K in 25 hrs"

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ivan on May 12, 2015, 04:48:53 pm
What's the time limit for this - 75 hours?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 12, 2015, 05:50:32 pm
For BRM, yes. BR is a bit longer, allowing for over-distance. A perm is not BRM.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on May 12, 2015, 05:51:49 pm
What's the time limit for this - 75 hours?

The route sheet for last calendar event in year 2000 has a start on Friday 20:00 and finish by Monday 23:11. So yes 75 hrs plus a few extra mins. The suggested schedule was 500km in first 24 hrs, 300km in second 24 hrs and then 200km in final 24 hrs to the finish + a bit of margin. Hardest sections seem to be in first day then the AAA get a bit easier.

Keep on keeping on Jonah  :)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: DavidS on May 12, 2015, 06:22:38 pm
Looking forward to the next update!  I was a DNF in 2000.  I had got round PBP the previous year and managed to successfully delude myself that I could manage the CrAckpot. Losing a screw to one of my cleats the first night didn't help me as I ended up with some kind of weird elephantitis in my shin. 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 12, 2015, 07:58:57 pm
HerE cumz da Badassgers

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/briansantos/BADGER.gif)

Night falls
Furtive calls
Jonah's on the menu
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 12, 2015, 08:15:12 pm
Update at 18:46
Just got to Axminster.  Feeling a lot better than this morning.  Just ordered som fish & chips as sustainance for the next 80k to Tor Hole - I hope to have 520 K by eleven or twelve tonight.  I may press on for the next leg which is annother 60k or have an hour in the space blanket..  I have had a fw min breaks but no sleep as yet.  Today was glorious again but im glad its cooled somewhat

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 12, 2015, 08:51:36 pm
Best of luck to him - it looks like it will be unseasonably chilly tonight, so I hope he's got the layers to deal with it (being ex-military, I am sure he'll just wrestle one of those badgers to the ground and skin it using only his tyre levers).
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: zigzag on May 12, 2015, 09:04:08 pm
is this ride really as hard as described above? i might put it on a bucket list then. keep going Jonah!
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Post by: Chris S on May 12, 2015, 09:07:29 pm
Best of luck to him - it looks like it will be unseasonably chilly tonight, so I hope he's got the layers to deal with it (being ex-military, I am sure he'll just wrestle one of those badgers to the ground and skin it using only his tyre levers).

* splort *

Thanks for that, Marcus.

* wipes bolognese sauce from laptop screen *
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 13, 2015, 07:40:14 am
is this ride really as hard as described above?

so it is said...

...there are some links to ride report links on the wessex sr website:
http://www.wessexsr.talktalk.net/1998%20Ivo%20Meisen.pdf (http://www.wessexsr.talktalk.net/1998%20Ivo%20Meisen.pdf)
http://www.wessexsr.talktalk.net/1998%20Steve%20Abraham.pdf (http://www.wessexsr.talktalk.net/1998%20Steve%20Abraham.pdf)
http://www.wessexsr.talktalk.net/1998%20Peter%20Marshall.pdf (http://www.wessexsr.talktalk.net/1998%20Peter%20Marshall.pdf)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Lars on May 13, 2015, 10:09:14 am
Any news of the progress of the bearded badger slayer?  :)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on May 13, 2015, 10:34:22 am
its on my bucket list; has been for a while; but expect like other rides it will be deluged with applicants and i will discover a ride-full sign by the time i have negotiated leave with Mrs CET.  But that takes nothing away from Jonah's stirling solo effort.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 13, 2015, 11:08:45 am
If it ever ran as an event again, it would be nice to give Wessex SRs priority for entry.

Any news of our potential male merit 2015 award winner? (If he manages this and the maniac, then I can't see anyone being more deserving!). Anyway - he's still got a long way to go on this one.

Go go go you double hard bastard!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 13, 2015, 01:37:47 pm
I'm not a fan of prioritised entry.  But if this is what it takes to guarantee a place on a hypothetical calendar event of this ride, I am prepared to put my principles to one side  and stiff over less battle hardened members ;D

Lovely, calm weather down in the South East.  Clear blue skies with a gentle breeze.  Hopefully Jonah is enjoying similar conditions in the South West.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 13, 2015, 01:43:04 pm
(If he manages this and the maniac, then I can't see anyone being more deserving!).

I can think of one UK randonneur who has trumped Jonah.  By some distance.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: caerau on May 13, 2015, 01:44:50 pm
I expect so, it's, lovely here in Southeast Wales which isn't too far away from that.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: vorsprung on May 13, 2015, 03:44:58 pm
If it ever ran as an event again, it would be nice to give Wessex SRs priority for entry.

If it ever ran as an event again, what makes you think that anyone other than Wessex SRs would *want* to do it?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on May 13, 2015, 05:23:08 pm
HerE cumz da Badassgers

(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c83/briansantos/BADGER.gif)

Night falls
Furtive calls
Jonah's on the menu


 ;D

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on May 13, 2015, 05:24:57 pm
is this ride really as hard as described above? i might put it on a bucket list then. keep going Jonah!

Why not give it a go yourself and find out   :demon:

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 13, 2015, 06:48:32 pm
Hi,
Justin's emails from the day, all stacked up on his phone, and came through together when he settled into the Wise Man at West Stafford for tea just now... in order the updates were:

06:37
Got in late to Wells so decided to kip in town on my way next control from 05;00

09:17
Thornbury Services -last leg was a toughie and took 4-hrs - feeling loads better after 3-hrs in a cardboard box in an alley in Wells!

14:46
Now at Zeals.  The countryside is epic. I particularly like the area around Wharley but have seen new sides to it.  The ride covers some parts of Hellfire but nothing is repeated.

Next leg is only 56 k to West Staford but will need to press on after as behind schedule.

18:12
In the Wise Man in West Stafford and what a nice pub it is too!  Lower back is plying up now but it stops if I jump of the bike and do a few stretches.

On my way to Codford next and then Membury where I hope I will be able to get a little sleep before the last two stages tomorrow. My left toe is rubbing in the heat and is really starting to smart.


....


Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: fussballclub on May 13, 2015, 07:39:52 pm
You are doing well for a guy that bailed on a ride I met in
January ;-)
I am off for root canal work in the fatherland soon. You will hopefully have finished the ride.

Quäl dich du Sau.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on May 13, 2015, 07:56:12 pm
Keep it going Jonah!  :thumbsup:

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 13, 2015, 09:00:58 pm
3 hours in a cardboard box in an alley in wells.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is the true audax spirit. None of your fancy bus shelters or the like.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 13, 2015, 09:01:50 pm
And keep on pedalling you crackpotter!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: alotronic on May 13, 2015, 09:43:18 pm
Forget PBP and LEL. This is a challenge, there is no comparison to this in the whole handbook

From S.Abrahams 1998 account, as above.

Respect to the Jonah.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 13, 2015, 10:12:54 pm
And to keep you warm at night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i2r3F5Ev2I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0i2r3F5Ev2I)

(actually a fucking ace track to listen to at night whilst riding.  Even better to listen to off your tits in some grimy abandoned northern warehouse in the early 90s (or so I am led to believe)).
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on May 13, 2015, 10:47:03 pm
Or this (which did keep me going on man rides):
https://youtu.be/5Y3e2okfRkE (https://youtu.be/5Y3e2okfRkE)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: caerau on May 13, 2015, 10:56:13 pm
3 hours in a cardboard box in an alley in wells.

That, ladies and gentlemen, is the true audax spirit. None of your fancy bus shelters or the like.


Like vagrancy with less appropriate clothing - or so I've read ;)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 14, 2015, 04:37:08 am
Thank you very much for your kind words and support folks!  Im now in Membury services and will set off at 05:00 for the last two stages - probably kicking the arse out of the contingency but I'm not taking any chances - the second from last leg was yet annother ball buster.  I felt like I was looding my mind about a couple of hours ago.  I checked my pockets and carradice for my gloves and couldn't find them - when I set off to ride back to my last position I realised that I was wearing them
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Joolz on May 14, 2015, 05:29:07 am
Real Audax stuff.

Keeping  going and think of the beer and corn snacks at the end
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on May 14, 2015, 07:34:31 am
Supportive thoughts from here! Brilliant riding.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 14, 2015, 07:40:20 am
Get this done you beast.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 14, 2015, 08:37:06 am
...and now it's pouring with rain in Dorset, just to make it an even more epic finish. this is the email justin sent just before the forum post:

"Subject: Fish and Chips
Just got to Membury Services  Going to have a cat-nap for one and a quarter hours and then set off on Leg 13 at 05:00
Lovely night; nowhere near as cold as last night.  I had some mild hallucinatoons for company.
130K to do"

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on May 14, 2015, 08:44:47 am
I do believe he's going to crack it.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on May 14, 2015, 08:49:52 am
Go Jonah!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 14, 2015, 09:00:39 am
I saw the rain On the weather radar. Hope it isn't causing our hero any major issues.

What is his cut off time? Mid afternoon?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 14, 2015, 09:07:33 am
It is not an EPIC ride until you ride through a rainstorm.  I hope the heavens open and soak him.  It makes for a better story.  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: chillmoister on May 14, 2015, 10:17:25 am
Godspeed you bearded wonder!  surely this gargantuan effort must be worthy of a Blue Peter badge!

Allez Allez!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: chillmoister on May 14, 2015, 10:27:14 am
3 hours in a cardboard box in an alley in wells.


Cardboard box?   You were lucky ....

 ;D
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 14, 2015, 10:31:30 am
I missed that he is 130km from the end.  That's a honkingly stonking pace to get around a lumpy course on fixed.  Bravissimo.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 14, 2015, 01:13:48 pm
Surely he must be on the vinegar strokes by now? 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Pete Mas on May 14, 2015, 01:40:36 pm
If it ever ran as an event again, it would be nice to give Wessex SRs priority for entry.

If it ever ran as an event again, what makes you think that anyone other than Wessex SRs would *want* to do it?

I'm a Wessex SR, but would need to think hard (and vamp up my fitness levels) before entering this ride, even as a calendar event.
What is noteworthy is that our man is riding this totally unsupported. Total admiration called for!
Has he finished yet?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 14, 2015, 01:52:20 pm
This just in:
"Ower 20 mins ago"

!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: caerau on May 14, 2015, 01:56:32 pm
Mucho applause.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 14, 2015, 02:00:12 pm
Slam dunk!  A legend is born.

I am imagining he looks like this:

(http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111004221237/muppet/images/7/78/AN_004.jpg)

And probably as comprehensible.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 14, 2015, 02:01:06 pm
Amazing stuff. Just got a text from him saying 72 hours - so good time in hand.

Truly awesome achievement!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: iddu on May 14, 2015, 02:03:09 pm
Top Chapeau (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hand-gestures/audience-clapping-smiley-emoticon.gif)

Will you be heading North tonight for the double? ;D
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 14, 2015, 02:05:41 pm
72 hours.  He could have slept in a piss stained alley for twice as long and still crawled in on time.

I wouldn't like to be in the same train carriage as him on the way back to London.  He must have reached peak odour yesterday and since then ripened to a fine vintage of randonneur  :)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: iddu on May 14, 2015, 02:10:04 pm
72 hours.  He could have slept in a piss stained alley for twice as long and still crawled in on time.

I wouldn't like to be in the same train carriage as him on the way back to London.  He must have reached peak odour yesterday and since then ripened to a fine vintage of randonneur  :)

Hose 'im down and bottle "Eau d'Jonah" - bound to be a Xmas gift winner  ;)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Lars on May 14, 2015, 02:15:01 pm
Top effort! Looks like the boy will get massive amounts of
well-deserved FWC points this season as the AAA points are
added in addition to the dist points!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on May 14, 2015, 02:29:30 pm
Lots and lots of  :thumbsup:

(And, thanks for the steady stream of updates)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 14, 2015, 02:58:45 pm
Top effort! Looks like the boy will get massive amounts of
well-deserved FWC points this season as the AAA points are
added in addition to the dist points!  :thumbsup:

7aaa in old money is probably 12AAA to 13AAA in new.  Formula in 1990s was (I think) 0.25 for having 10,000m of climb and then 0.25 for each 100m above that.  If right, this suggests 12,700m of climb. 

So more than 20FWC points foshuh.  Well deserved.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: chillmoister on May 14, 2015, 04:00:10 pm
don't you just hate when the bar is raised ....beyond view!  ;) Chapeau! Truly audacious.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on May 14, 2015, 06:00:59 pm
It is a bar that has always been there...

Well done Jonah!

I suggest an exceptional evening in Hackney Headquarters is called for  :thumbsup:

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: postie on May 14, 2015, 06:13:08 pm
Well done that man :thumbsup: and to think its only mid may. Most riders are waiting to ride there 600km yet
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 14, 2015, 06:25:58 pm
Now the difficult bit.  Extracting a GPX track for a 1000km ride from a GPS unit. 

Don't worry Jonah, it's in there somewhere!  Just don't accidentally select anything that says "reset" or "delete"  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: fungus on May 14, 2015, 06:45:40 pm
Chapeau Jonah!  Awesome effort  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Aunt Maud on May 14, 2015, 06:53:49 pm
Excellent.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Joolz on May 14, 2015, 08:00:42 pm
Chapeau, I didn't doubt you.

Beer O' Clock
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on May 14, 2015, 10:02:29 pm
Top Chapeau (http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/hand-gestures/audience-clapping-smiley-emoticon.gif)

Will you be heading North tonight for the double? ;D

+1
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 15, 2015, 04:10:17 am
Hello folks
just reading your very supportive comments again (I can't sleep because of the pain associated with falling asleep on the sofa in an awkward position - I drifted off at around 18:00 only to wake at 00:40 with an immobile left arm and shoulder, although if I wing a cushion under my arm pit and lean forward a little it dissipates slightly).

I'll stick a write up on this post later. 

A big thank you to AndyP once again!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on May 15, 2015, 06:40:44 am
What you need is pint or three of muscle relaxant  :smug:

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on May 15, 2015, 03:48:59 pm
Well done Jonah! Looking forward to reading the write up! Your updates certainly brought back some memories of what is was like riding the last episode in 2000! But solo, and on t'cog?!!! Chapeau!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on May 16, 2015, 01:16:12 pm
Will there be a pub night to welcome back the entrepid explorer on perhaps the last Thursday of the month?

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Von Broad on May 16, 2015, 02:15:11 pm
Must admit, I don't know what the CrAcKpOt is [other than a complete ball-buster by the sounds of it]. I did have a look around, but couldn't find anything, does anybody have a gpx/graphical representation of the route?

Well done Jonah!!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 17, 2015, 05:50:27 pm
Now the dust has settled, what is the climbing figure for the Crackpot that Jonah got?

I know it got 7 old-school AAA points - but it's Sunday and my brain isn't up for working out the supremely complex calculation (P = (c - (d * 14) + ((d-100)*(d-100)/100)) / 400) for old AAA.

More or less than the Maniac?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 17, 2015, 06:24:17 pm
That formula was for sub 300km events.  As per earlier post should be around 12,750 or thereabouts.  But gpx being what it is, it could be anything from 0 to 15aaa in new money!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Henry on May 17, 2015, 06:46:08 pm
A couple of years ago I got round the Brimstone 600 calendar event on a 67" fixed. Full commitment was required and was helped by good controls, good weather, and being in an excellent group which formed in the night and rode all the second day together.

To do a 1,000km of this, solo, less than perfect weather, no proper sleep stop...Top stuff Jonah and well done!

I would be interested if a calendar event of this ran in future  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Martin on May 17, 2015, 09:26:58 pm
Jonah you are officially Crazy A bonkers (with your drill and set;)

chapeau  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on May 17, 2015, 09:27:32 pm
Now the dust has settled, what is the climbing figure for the Crackpot that Jonah got?

From the year 2000 route sheet average m ascent/km figure for each stage I calculated a total of 13371 m. Presumably this is based on contour counting - phew that's a task in itself. So on the face of it 3000-4000 m less than the Maniac or Cambrian 10A. But they're Wessex m with few long easy gradient climbs and many technical descents on narrow lanes.

Anyone want to have a try mid June after the 600 qualifying rides?  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 17, 2015, 11:04:48 pm
Steve Snook kindly calculated the AAA before the ride as 13.25
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on May 18, 2015, 08:11:11 am
Jonah, is Thurday 28th an evening where you will be telling us of the fine views and rolling vistas experienced en route?

H
 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Lars on May 18, 2015, 09:39:54 am
Steve Snook kindly calculated the AAA before the ride as 13.25

So pretty much same as doing Porkers and Brimstone back-to-back. Good grief!  :o
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 18, 2015, 10:32:13 am
Steve Snook kindly calculated the AAA before the ride as 13.25

So pretty much same as doing Porkers and Brimstone back-to-back. Good grief!  :o

Or three and a bit Hard-Boileds.......

Can't see what all the fuss is about!   ;)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 18, 2015, 10:42:09 am
The Focus on AAA is wrong.

This ride is the same distance as the HB, Porkers and Dorset Coast. With an extra 100km of Wessexy goodness. Imagine how many wonderful views and charming lanes that means. It is almost inconceivable. Hills are generally the cost one pays for such delights.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 18, 2015, 10:47:54 am
The Focus on AAA is wrong.

This ride is the same distance as the HB, Porkers and Dorset Coast. With an extra 100km of Wessexy goodness. Imagine how many wonderful views and charming lanes that means. It is almost inconceivable.

Oh I totally agree and it would give a very false impression of the challenges of any of the Wessex rides, most of which, on AAA count alone, are far 'easier' than many rides out there.  Of course, Wessex SRs know differently.

I couldn't really give a shit about any points, awards, badges or all the other things people obsess over in Audax; but the climbing figure allows those that know how the Wessex landscape is, a reference point. 

It's definitely on list of rides.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 18, 2015, 04:25:29 pm
Jonah, is Thurday 28th an evening where you will be telling us of the fine views and rolling vistas experienced en route?

H

Oh yes  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: mattc on May 18, 2015, 06:00:47 pm
It's definitely on list of rides.
Its very much on one of my lists.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on May 18, 2015, 07:39:52 pm
Jonah, is Thurday 28th an evening where you will be telling us of the fine views and rolling vistas experienced en route?

H

Oh yes  :demon:

Spiffy!

I will be there.

Plus it will be I interesting to hear your version of events in that stag do.

I am sure Gadge made it all up  :demon:

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 18, 2015, 08:31:38 pm
It seems there are a few of us hoping to add this to our palmares. 

Assuming it doesn't appear in the calendar for 2016 (and there is no hint that it will) I will probably seek to do a Jonah and ride the route as a DIY (it fits well with other plans).  If this comes to pass, I'll tout for company, as this type of ride benefits from a little company (solo rides above 400km can be soul destroying and having the prospect of someone to chat to can help relieve the mental tension).
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 18, 2015, 09:17:17 pm
I can forward the GPX's - they were bang-on!
I'd love to do it again...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Chris S on May 18, 2015, 09:33:53 pm
I'd love to do it again...

Poor lad - he's raving. That sleep deprivation is a swine.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 19, 2015, 08:48:02 am
Well done Jonah! Looking forward to reading the write up! Your updates certainly brought back some memories of what is was like riding the last episode in 2000! But solo, and on t'cog?!!! Chapeau!!!!!!!!!!!!

Going to write something for Arrive instead
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on May 19, 2015, 09:46:26 pm
Well done Jonah! Looking forward to reading the write up! Your updates certainly brought back some memories of what is was like riding the last episode in 2000! But solo, and on t'cog?!!! Chapeau!!!!!!!!!!!!

Going to write something for Arrive instead

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 22, 2015, 06:24:24 pm
I wonder if anyone could please help?  I need to send my GPX tracks for AA validation - I can see the blighters in my Garmin eTrex 30 but when I plug the device into my PC I can't find them
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 22, 2015, 06:27:56 pm
Now the difficult bit.  Extracting a GPX track for a 1000km ride from a GPS unit. 

Don't worry Jonah, it's in there somewhere!  Just don't accidentally select anything that says "reset" or "delete"  :demon:

I should charge for these pearls of wisdom :smug:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 22, 2015, 07:04:32 pm

Is it found? If so I don't need to bore you with suggestions. No words to describe that ride.

I'm hoping to do the Wessex SR as Perms between qualifying at WCW next week (I hope) and PBP. I've had to be at work for Porkers and also for Brimstone this weekend. As a Wessex CTC newbie I have been left in no doubt that I should "hold my manhood cheap" (W Shakespeare) If I persist in riding such lesser events. You've inspired me to stop holding my manhood and get on with it.
Cheers
David




Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 26, 2015, 10:03:46 am

Is it found? If so I don't need to bore you with suggestions. No words to describe that ride.

I'm hoping to do the Wessex SR as Perms between qualifying at WCW next week (I hope) and PBP. I've had to be at work for Porkers and also for Brimstone this weekend. As a Wessex CTC newbie I have been left in no doubt that I should "hold my manhood cheap" (W Shakespeare) If I persist in riding such lesser events. You've inspired me to stop holding my manhood and get on with it.
Cheers
David

Hello Smeth - all the best with your WSR - I haven't managed to extract the tracks as yet - I would be very grateful for your advice
J
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 26, 2015, 11:33:11 am
J.  I suggest posting to the GPX board, as not everyone with "the knowledge" will read this board (let alone a topic about a 1000km DIY based on a fabled route rekindled from the embers left by a previous generation of randonneurs).  Good luck  :-*
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ivan on May 26, 2015, 11:51:21 am
Or bring it to the pub on Thursday and we'll have a CrAcK at it then. Not that familiar with the eTrex, but sure we can figure it out before it gets too messy...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 26, 2015, 03:34:28 pm
Hi,
The pub may be a good option as there are a lot of variables. a laptop and cable might be handy. but anyway here's a go at it:

I don't know what you use to view GPX files on your PC - could be Mapsource, Basecamp, Bikehike. A user of any of those can help with specifics of that method (I use Basecamp) All have the facility to upload files from the etrex but I find the easiest way to transfer is to find them and treat them as files on a disk drive and just move them over using Windows to wherever you keep them on your PC, than view them in the gizmo of your choice. The previous advice you had about the track possibly being archived on the Etrex sounds highly likely as the Etrex is set by default to archive at frequent intervals though this can be altered in settings.

Anyway to treat them as files on a disk drive (as mentioned) set the etrex to Mass storage" mode when unplugged from the PC. To do this go to "Setup" then "System" and the bottom choice on the list is "USB mode". This can be toggled between "Garmin" and "Mass Storage". .Select the latter. Turn the Etrex off and plug it in to the pc.
It's screen will eventually display the USB Symbol and the PC will act as if you had inserted a disk or SD card into the computer, i.e. it should appear on the "My Computer" window as a seperate drive, or rather two separate drives - one will be the internal memory and the other will be the Micro SD you have probable installed in the Etrex.

You have two options. You can either open these new "drives" from "My Computer" and see the contents, or more likely the Autoplay function on your PC will have already opened two windows (one for each drive) offering among other things the option to "Open a window to view files).

Open the drives by either route to view the files. You can now drag and drop them around your PC to the place your tracks and routes normally live for viewing in your chosen software. I don't know if you've saved the track with a name so you can recognise it but it may have the default of the Time/date of the ride start or possibly archive time/date. An option would be to copy the whole lot across to the PC, then use your chosen software to open each one and work out which one it is.

A word or two about finding the files on the Garmin:

The internal memory is the one entitled "Garmin eTrex 30" (followed by a drive letter)
The SD card if installed will be the other one probably called "External Drive" (plus drive letter)

To find the tracks the following will generally apply:
In the internal memory Select the "GARMIN" folder, Then "GPX". You will either see the files there or they may be in "ARCHIVE" sub-folder if it has been archived or "CURRENT" sub-folder if it's still active.
To look in the External Drive (I have this set as the default in case the gadget breaks) go to the "GARMIN" folder, then the "GPX" folder. The files should be there.

Hope all this B******s is helpful. If not PM me as it's easier to talk through,  or maybe talk through over a beer on Thursday with your oppo. I am abstaining until after WCW this weekend then it's back on that PBP website hopefully.
Dave (Smeth)urst. How lacking in imagination!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: JonB on May 26, 2015, 05:53:54 pm
Just to add a note to Smeth's instructions. When searching for my archive files I find it easier to use Basecamp with the etrex plugged in as described above, you can see the tracks recorded in the archive (I think archive files often have the suffix 'day' at the end). Just click on them and it's immediately apparent on the map whether it's a relevant track, that way it's easier to visually identify what you're after rather than looking through long file names for dates and times.  You could also use Basecamp to join the tracks but I prefer to use a text editor as it seems to keep the climbing figure intact for strava purposes (as long as you follow the instructions here https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=86400.0) which may be of particular relevance for this ride.  Good luck!

Looking forward to reading about the ride
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 26, 2015, 06:52:09 pm
What's written below is what I do (Smeth's email).  I'd forgotten that you needed to make the GPS internal memory a drive.  I've had it set up that way from the moment it came out of the box, following the advice that Frankly Frankie put either in Arrivee or on his aukadia site.

Where it gets tricky is if the track is split into several different files (which I suspect it will be).  You need to stick them together, which can either be done using software (I've never done it, but have been assured in the past that it is "a piece of piss with the right software") or by manual copying and pasting.

I do the latter.  It's fiddly but easy if you know how the output is structured.  Not for everyone though, and is the kind of thing best left to someone with a bit of xtml-fu.  And also best done sober and with the delete key firmly off bounds unless you know what you are doing!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ivan on May 28, 2015, 05:44:13 pm
Thanks for all the input - above instructions printed off, laptop & cable packed, off to my date with Jonah's eTrex in the pub.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 28, 2015, 05:52:25 pm
Good luck Ivan! 

Crack those pesky files out of the technophobes bleepy box and get them onto his Strava (I know!  But Jonah does have a Strava account!) so we can all study them and make our decision not to be so fecking stupid as to think we could give it a go! 

I would genuinely be intrigued by the route.  As a Wessex SR, a go at the Crackpot really is my duty sometime.  I assure you that a lot of gears would be accompanying me for the trip though.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 28, 2015, 05:54:20 pm
Let us know how much it weighs and what you're going to call it when it's all over!

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on May 28, 2015, 07:21:56 pm
A pdf of the route is here:  http://www.wessexsr.talktalk.net/CRACKPOT.pdf
I think it's the 2nd edition.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on May 29, 2015, 09:01:25 am
Was it a successful delivery?  Or did the rate of progress get outstripped by the pace of inebriation, such the Jonah is still waiting anxiously for it to pop out?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ivan on May 29, 2015, 11:28:54 am
The Eagle has landed. Tracks were successfully extracted last night and emailed directly to Paul who's forwarded them on for AAA validation. Was a bit tricky - found 10 relevant files in GPX/Archive but was missing the end section - located this in GPX/Current, but it included the train & ride home. Looks like ~13000m of climbing over 1045km, and the combined track is too large to load into bikehike. Thanks again for the tips - had a few pub 'experts' assisting as well.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ivan on May 29, 2015, 12:07:24 pm
(http://audaxclubhackney.co.uk/ivan/crackpot1.png)
(http://audaxclubhackney.co.uk/ivan/crackpot2.png)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on May 29, 2015, 12:47:24 pm
I remember looking at that on a map and thinking someone had drawn a nice route from Poole to Minehead, then crossed it out as too far.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 29, 2015, 02:09:41 pm
The bit where it starts to get crossed out being a right bugger aye?!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on May 29, 2015, 02:43:44 pm
The bit where it starts to get crossed out being a right bugger aye?!

I was first on the road at dawn out of Minehead. The mist was rising from the fields. I followed a stag clip-clopping along the road, then came across a huddled herd of deer steaming in the morning sun. A little later a hare ran ahead of me, and sundry other wildlife.  Magical memories.

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on May 29, 2015, 03:47:15 pm
Well done Ivan for extracting that from the depths of Jonah's GPS!

Looks well Wessex for sure.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 29, 2015, 07:43:21 pm
Last night at ACH drinks the lads asked how The Crackpot compared to the other WSR rides - I had given this a lot of thought as I was riding and I am of the opinion that it has its own distinct character - I love all of the rides but particularly Hellfire.  However, Crackpot beats then all in my opinion.  I particularly noticed the tree filled gorges around Avon as well as the open elevated plains which characterised the ride for me.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on May 29, 2015, 08:26:58 pm
I've been reading old Arrivee accounts of the Crackpot and it sounds like a challenge - very Wessex indeed ! Just got to convince the wife and kids ...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Chris S on May 29, 2015, 09:28:59 pm
I've been reading old Arrivee accounts of the Crackpot and it sounds like a challenge - very Wessex indeed ! Just got to convince the wife and kids ...

Wow - audacious indeed, making it a whole family venture. Top work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on June 27, 2015, 04:23:19 pm
I followed in Justin’s wheel tracks last week and rode the CrAcKpOt. Bit of a different approach though in that I had gears and started at Ilminster rather than Poole. This allowed me to have overnight stops at Ilminster, West Stafford and Poole to give 4 days of 333km, 298km, 280km and 96km. I was able to leave spare clothing at the stops, travel reasonably light and minimise night riding (2 hrs on 1st day and 4th day only) which helped give a moving time of just under 43 hrs at 23.7km/hr average. I did not sleep on cardboard boxes in an alleyway in Wells, perhaps another time on another ride  ;D

The weather was as forecast being warm and dry with only problem being an increasing headwind during day 2 & 3 afternoons – but I’ll take that. My bike was near perfect too with no mechanicals or visitations during the ride.

Day 1 was the toughest with Exmoor and the edge of Dartmoor to tackle. The 95km stage from Minehead to Bovey Tracey is a mutha as Justin said. The following stage to Culmstock is a cracker too. The other days include plenty of the crumpled Wessex countryside as well, although there are sections where you can get some respite there’s many a challenge or surprise along the route.

Many thanks to Pete L for the bed at West Stafford and Drew B for the excellent breakfast at Springfield House. 

Anyone else thinking of a CrAcKpOt this year?


Day 1 on way to Bovey
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu52/motog/Crackpot/DSCF2508.jpg) (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/motog/media/Crackpot/DSCF2508.jpg.html)

Day 3 Bulbarrow Hill with mist below
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu52/motog/Crackpot/DSCF2515.jpg) (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/motog/media/Crackpot/DSCF2515.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on June 27, 2015, 09:56:05 pm
I had heard rumours you were out there (to be honest we thought you were out there this weekend).

Chapeau!

A great achievement and brilliant to see two riders tackle this in one season.

Top banana!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 28, 2015, 05:53:57 am
Chapeau Swiss Hat

I think I might have to have a go at this at some time, but probably not until 2017.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on June 28, 2015, 05:40:02 pm
Two attempts.  100% completion.  One on fixed and lumbered with the aerodynamic disadvantage of a face muffler.

There is only one possible conclusion. 

It must be an easy ride.

*cough*
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on June 28, 2015, 08:57:07 pm
Two attempts.  100% completion.  One on fixed and lumbered with the aerodynamic disadvantage of a face muffler.

There is only one possible conclusion. 

It must be an easy ride.

*cough*
Unless you factor in the names involved.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: zigzag on June 28, 2015, 09:07:42 pm
i've done very little cycling in those parts so i'd like to give it a go if it was an organised ride
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Revellinho on June 28, 2015, 09:42:22 pm
Respect to both of you.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on June 28, 2015, 09:57:49 pm
i've done very little cycling in those parts so i'd like to give it a go if it was an organised ride

Get to the back of the line, queue jumper :)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 28, 2015, 10:07:17 pm
I followed in Justin’s wheel tracks last week and rode the CrAcKpOt. Bit of a different approach though in that I had gears and started at Ilminster rather than Poole. This allowed me to have overnight stops at Ilminster, West Stafford and Poole to give 4 days of 333km, 298km, 280km and 96km. I was able to leave spare clothing at the stops, travel reasonably light and minimise night riding (2 hrs on 1st day and 4th day only) which helped give a moving time of just under 43 hrs at 23.7km/hr average. I did not sleep on cardboard boxes in an alleyway in Wells, perhaps another time on another ride  ;D

The weather was as forecast being warm and dry with only problem being an increasing headwind during day 2 & 3 afternoons – but I’ll take that. My bike was near perfect too with no mechanicals or visitations during the ride.

Day 1 was the toughest with Exmoor and the edge of Dartmoor to tackle. The 95km stage from Minehead to Bovey Tracey is a mutha as Justin said. The following stage to Culmstock is a cracker too. The other days include plenty of the crumpled Wessex countryside as well, although there are sections where you can get some respite there’s many a challenge or surprise along the route.

Many thanks to Pete L for the bed at West Stafford and Drew B for the excellent breakfast at Springfield House. 

Anyone else thinking of a CrAcKpOt this year?


Day 1 on way to Bovey
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu52/motog/Crackpot/DSCF2508.jpg) (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/motog/media/Crackpot/DSCF2508.jpg.html)

Day 3 Bulbarrow Hill with mist below
(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu52/motog/Crackpot/DSCF2515.jpg) (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/motog/media/Crackpot/DSCF2515.jpg.html)

Top one Swiss Hat!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 28, 2015, 10:09:02 pm
Lets hope that this is the start of many more attempts on this CrAcKeR of a ride  :D
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on June 28, 2015, 10:21:07 pm
Well done Martin  :thumbsup:

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on June 29, 2015, 07:20:23 pm
Superb result Mr Swiss Hat!!!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Must be gettin' Shawn 'a thinkin' 'bout resurrecting this here ye event again  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on June 29, 2015, 10:22:12 pm
It has certainly rekindled the thought in my mind.

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on June 29, 2015, 10:55:35 pm
The logistics of organising a calendar event are in the higher values of difficult. 

An individual permanent is easier to organise, albeit probably significantly more challenging to ride than the calendar event (which was challenging enough).
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 30, 2015, 08:58:21 am
I'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on June 30, 2015, 08:15:59 pm
I'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah

+ 1 to that, provided the dates can be MBA.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on July 01, 2015, 02:07:19 pm
Interested but it will vie with Mille Miglia or Black Sheep's Highlands and Islands.  June 15 - July 25 is out for me - too many family commitments around end of school year.   :hand:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on July 02, 2015, 03:27:51 am
I'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah

Despite your Dorset banner, I too would be up for that

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on July 02, 2015, 10:29:29 am
The inner sanctum from the Kingdom of Wessex

I'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah

Despite your Dorset banner, I too would be up for that

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on July 02, 2015, 05:38:21 pm
The inner sanctum from the Kingdom of Wessex

I'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah

Despite your Dorset banner, I too would be up for that

H

It would have to next year too.

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Charlie Boy on July 02, 2015, 10:30:12 pm
The inner sanctum from the Kingdom of Wessex

I'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah

Despite your Dorset banner, I too would be up for that

H

Are you a man of Dorset, Jonah?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: vorsprung on July 03, 2015, 03:50:44 pm
I'm busy that weekend

Whenever it is  ;D
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on July 03, 2015, 04:52:49 pm
I am going to hold out for Mr Shaw to invite us in to his Crack den and hand out the rock, tin foil and lighters so we can all get high (up the hills) and lose our minds over the course of a couple of days.

TBH, if it never runs as a calendar event again, that will be a pity.  I, personally and at this moment of time, have no real *want* or *need* to ride it as a DIY event.  Whilst Shawn's routes are nice and interesting, the thing that made the Wessex SR special for me was the controls that he organised (particularly on the Porkers which I think is possibly my favourite 400 evah) and the obvious care that he lavishes on them :(
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on July 04, 2015, 11:46:47 am
Oh ahh, born in Dorch, brought up in Weymif lut!  ;)

The inner sanctum from the Kingdom of Wessex

I'll provisionally stick my name down for a group perm:
Jonah

Despite your Dorset banner, I too would be up for that

H

Are you a man of Dorset, Jonah?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 20, 2015, 08:52:46 pm
This thread definitely needs a nudge ....

Anyone else have any plans to give it a whirl ?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 21, 2015, 10:07:34 am
Er yes...
But not sure if can actually make it or squeeze it in between Highlands 1200, Wessex SR (I've only done the perms - I want to do the calendar). I've been thinking about BCM as well. I'm interested in group DIY if dates right but am slow on hills but doggedly relentless elsewhere, so I tend not to see much of people after 100k except in passing. It would be nice to know some other blighter was out there enjoying Shawn's "roads with better views".

I did speak to Manotea at the AAAnfractious and he has Jonah's track for potential use as DIY by GPS, and he validated Jonah's ride I believe.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 22, 2015, 03:50:56 pm
This thread definitely needs a nudge ....

Anyone else have any plans to give it a whirl ?

I'm definitely in - When were you thinking?

PS  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on October 22, 2015, 04:31:03 pm
Hmm.  Given I keep looking in this thread, I suspect I may be interested.  Don't want to be, but there we go.  Deviants can't easily deny their predilections.  Firmly on the maybe list.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 22, 2015, 07:50:15 pm
This thread definitely needs a nudge ....

Anyone else have any plans to give it a whirl ?

I'm definitely in - When were you thinking?


You want to do it again ? Cool. I'm probably nuts, but I'm erring towards early in the new year. There are some domestic negotiations to be had yet too though ...

Also, if Shawn does get all the planets to align and run a calendar version I'd opt for that instead ... but that's a tall order having looked at a previous route sheet.

When's your preference ?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on October 22, 2015, 09:57:46 pm
Mrs CET has given reluctant permission to Mille Miglia next year so I'm out
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 22, 2015, 11:29:28 pm
Quote
I'm probably nuts, but I'm erring towards early in the new year

Probably? Once did Lejog in November. Wish I'd been able to see. Positive maybe for later.
Have tested the water with Shawn re calendar or even perm. Managed to get one raised eyebrow by way of a no but who knows?

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 23, 2015, 07:19:21 am
Quote
I'm probably nuts, but I'm erring towards early in the new year

Probably? Once did Lejog in November. Wish I'd been able to see. Positive maybe for later.
Have tested the water with Shawn re calendar or even perm. Managed to get one raised eyebrow by way of a no but who knows?

Yeah, I did a Hellfire in November one year.  As I waited for my water bottle to melt in the morning winter sun I calculated that by the end of the ride I would have have spent more time in darkness that in the light.  However, this being said, an earlier assault would free up the rest of the year aye?! 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 23, 2015, 09:20:47 am
You're right, but I've promised the legs no more than 200 before the hardboiled/coast attempt. Too dark early for me.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on October 23, 2015, 11:36:55 am
If I do this, I'd like to experience the Joy of Wessex in the summer.  I'd only be up for a July/August ride, by which time my legs will be suitably "seasoned" to make a lumpy 1000 bearable.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 23, 2015, 08:38:41 pm

Yeah, I did a Hellfire in November one year.  As I waited for my water bottle to melt in the morning winter sun I calculated that by the end of the ride I would have have spent more time in darkness that in the light.  However, this being said, an earlier assault would free up the rest of the year aye?!

Yes - there'll be more dark riding than light in January - 15 hours ? And who knows what the temperature / rainfall / wind etc. will be like going over Exmoor ... but it would indeed free up the spring and summer months.

Don't know what bike & tyre combo I'd do it on either at that time of year. Either way it'd be slow going ... and challenging.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 23, 2015, 09:02:06 pm
Selfishly I'm thinking early July - long enough after Brimstone (28 May) - long enough before Highlands 1200 (25th July).  And max daylight. I'm also lucky to have midweek as an option. TBH I may solo - hate the idea of slowing anyone, though merely knowledge of some other soul out there would be good. Also I had an idea of sticking my caravan and awning somewhere as a communal crash out. Put food, even drop bags etc there.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 23, 2015, 09:33:13 pm

Yeah, I did a Hellfire in November one year.  As I waited for my water bottle to melt in the morning winter sun I calculated that by the end of the ride I would have have spent more time in darkness that in the light.  However, this being said, an earlier assault would free up the rest of the year aye?!

Yes - there'll be more dark riding than light in January - 15 hours ? And who knows what the temperature / rainfall / wind etc. will be like going over Exmoor ... but it would indeed free up the spring and summer months.

Don't know what bike & tyre combo I'd do it on either at that time of year. Either way it'd be slow going ... and challenging.

Like your style!  I'm chokah in the summer already (ACH has a bumper expedition planned which will need to take centre stage)  - lets just pretend it's July!  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 23, 2015, 09:37:04 pm
Re. bike tyre combo
Have you seen the Surly Pugsley?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 23, 2015, 09:46:27 pm
Seriously though, (Surly Moonlander Special Ops with 'Large Marge' tyres should do the trick) 28mm at least I would guess - I ran standard Audax bike with 25mm Marathon Plus in Summer and finished with aching wrists and a torn Terrus Minor = or was I hallucinating?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Altitude Accumulator on October 24, 2015, 01:48:24 pm
Have we any dates yet?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on October 24, 2015, 03:14:25 pm
Have we any dates yet?

1st April start?  ;D
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on October 24, 2015, 05:17:08 pm
Have we any dates yet?

1st April start?  ;D

Except the 2nd April is the Hard Boiled 300... :-[
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Altitude Accumulator on October 24, 2015, 05:56:10 pm
That's out then must be on start line of Hardboil
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: postie on October 24, 2015, 06:39:37 pm
I would. Like to do this ride :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 24, 2015, 09:47:30 pm
Have we any dates yet?

I'm thinking mid-January-ish, depending on the weather.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 26, 2015, 07:50:53 pm
And then there were two...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on October 26, 2015, 09:38:07 pm
January will be too early in the season for me  :facepalm:

Would be happy to man a control point though if possible  :thumbsup:

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on October 26, 2015, 09:56:49 pm
A January start might add more than a little difficulty to the event, especially over the two moors.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 27, 2015, 09:46:15 pm

Would be happy to man a control point though if possible  :thumbsup:

H

Thanks for the offer. It's greatly appreciated!

It's going to be quite challenging ....  ;D
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on October 27, 2015, 10:15:20 pm
It occurs to me that, if Shawn ever thought of reviving it, we could possibly offer a control.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 27, 2015, 10:45:02 pm
A January start might add more than a little difficulty to the event, especially over the two moors.

Yes - they're the key to the whole ride.  If the weather's foul, it'll be pretty inhospitable up there ...

We'll have to ride them in daylight at least!  When you rode the calendar event, did you start at 8 p.m. and ride Exmoor at night ?


It occurs to me that, if Shawn ever thought of reviving it, we could possibly offer a control.

I wonder how Shawn's getting on with that ? The controls near the end of the ride have to stay open for such a long time, I can understand why it's such a difficult event to organise. I can't imagine there are many people who'd volunteer for that.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on October 27, 2015, 10:55:24 pm
I can't remember the start time (could look it up!), but, first year at least, I hit Exmoor at dawn – which was splendid (I was briefly first on the road so no-one had disturbed the wildlife until I came along).

My home in Axminster was a control that year.  Subsequently it was the Primary school, but the headmaster wasn't overly enthusiastic after a couple of goes.  Honiton's perhaps not too far away.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on November 30, 2015, 09:21:48 pm
I'm out for the Winter attempt. 
I got cold on a pissy 100 the other week and the old electric feeling came back in my arms (does anyone else get this?)/  my arm still hasn't properly recovered from last time and that was May!  That's enough excuses.  I'll be attempting again at around about the same time of year if anyone else's is in?

Good luck Graham S and fudging good effort for continuing with this!

Best of British!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on November 30, 2015, 09:24:31 pm
I'm out for the Winter attempt. 
I got cold on a pissy 100 the other week and the old electric feeling came back in my arms (does anyone else get this?)/  my arm still hasn't properly recovered from last time and that was May!  That's enough excuses.  I'll be attempting again at around about the same time of year if anyone else's is in?

Good luck Graham S and fudging good effort for continuing with this!

Best of British!

You could cheat and use gears.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on November 30, 2015, 09:48:06 pm
Never
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on December 01, 2015, 08:20:56 am
Cheers Jonah - hope you get sorted for May !

Submitted the DIY controls to TonyH ... all systems go for 24th of January

It's a full moon then. How appropriate ...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on December 01, 2015, 11:31:59 am
Here's to January, and to the 24th in particular!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on December 08, 2015, 09:45:40 pm
Cheers Jonah - hope you get sorted for May !

Submitted the DIY controls to TonyH ... all systems go for 24th of January

It's a full moon then. How appropriate ...

That's a Sunday right?  What time you startin'?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on December 09, 2015, 03:25:22 pm
Cheers Jonah - hope you get sorted for May !

Submitted the DIY controls to TonyH ... all systems go for 24th of January

It's a full moon then. How appropriate ...

That's a Sunday right?  What time you startin'?

8 p.m. start - just like the original event.

Unlike the original event it'll be dark at that point, so no glorious sunset on the way out of Poole. 12 hours of night riding's a great way to start a ride though ;-)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on December 09, 2015, 04:28:50 pm
Forgive my ignorance but what's the crackpot? I'm getting a lots of climbing in Wessex vibe but haven't been able to pin it down.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on December 09, 2015, 04:44:28 pm
Go here (http://www.wessexsr.talktalk.net/Crackpot.html) and click the right-hand badge for a pdf routesheet.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on December 09, 2015, 04:55:04 pm
Whilst googling I came across this, partially related item (http://www.cyclechat.net/threads/which-is-the-toughest.104554/).  I'd forgotten completely about it.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Charlie Boy on December 09, 2015, 10:01:38 pm
^Who is this 'Steve'?

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Lars on December 09, 2015, 10:30:43 pm
Go here (http://www.wessexsr.talktalk.net/Crackpot.html) and click the right-hand badge for a pdf routesheet.

That must have been quite something - A Shawn Shaw route sheet for a 1,000k that must have had a fair amount of night riding.
Before the era of satnavs and bright and light LED helmet lights!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: fussballclub on December 11, 2015, 07:08:36 am
^^^^^ Very good read! Pete Loakes kitchen  :)

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on December 11, 2015, 09:30:05 am
Go here (http://www.wessexsr.talktalk.net/Crackpot.html) and click the right-hand badge for a pdf routesheet.

That must have been quite something - A Shawn Shaw route sheet for a 1,000k that must have had a fair amount of night riding.
Before the era of satnavs and bright and light LED helmet lights!

Yes - my Garmin & absurdly bright led (battery & dynamo) lights have made night riding much easier, faster and safer. Hats off to everyone who completed the Crackpot (& any multi-day ride for that matter) in the days before all this great technology became available.

It's fair to say that these gadgets have transformed audax rides. Map navigation is certainly something I don't do on an audax ride anymore. I don't miss it either - it ate up time over long rides.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on December 11, 2015, 10:31:49 pm
Anyone know if there's a GPX of the Crackpot route floating about? Any of the riders who've done it maybe put it on Strava, etc?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on December 12, 2015, 12:29:17 pm
If you pm me your email address and I'll send you the gpx.

Anyone know if there's a GPX of the Crackpot route floating about? Any of the riders who've done it maybe put it on Strava, etc?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on December 12, 2015, 10:32:06 pm
Cheers Jonah - hope you get sorted for May !

Submitted the DIY controls to TonyH ... all systems go for 24th of January

It's a full moon then. How appropriate ...

God's speed in your darkened hours G-S
(I was thinking of other wretched souls who were also thrust into darkness and came up with the following list:
The Count of Montecrhisto
Papillon
Terry Waite
The Man in the Iron Mask
...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on December 13, 2015, 09:08:31 pm
Cheers Jonah - hope you get sorted for May !

Submitted the DIY controls to TonyH ... all systems go for 24th of January

It's a full moon then. How appropriate ...

God's speed in your darkened hours G-S
(I was thinking of other wretched souls who were also thrust into darkness and came up with the following list:
The Count of Montecrhisto
Papillon
Terry Waite
The Man in the Iron Mask
...

Those wretched souls didn't have the neon-lit oases of motorway services to look forward to during their darkest hours.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on January 19, 2016, 01:20:01 pm
Right then. The tyres have been pumped up, the chain oiled and the moustache waxed. I'm as ready to ride the Crackpot as I'll ever be.

I'll start the ride at 8pm this Friday from that spiritual starting place for so many a Wessex ride, the 24 hour BP garage on Longfleet Road.

I'm sticking to the most recent route sheet with the intention of 'doing it proper' - despite the change of date / season etc. ...

Because I'm riding it in the winter, sleeping in a box in a Wells alleyway is out - despite the obvious lure of such accommodation. Instead I have a place to stop and sleep for the second night in Somerton.

The problem I have now is the third night. I don't where I'll be on the road, so booking anything is tricky. I imagine I could be anywhere between Dorchester and Membury Services. The Days Inn at Membury Services is an option, but will they be able to check me in in the small hours ? I've read a review that stated that there was no-one there to check the reviewer in. That's no good. I could stink up the Burger King for a few hours, but I doubt it'll be restful enough at that point. There's a Premier Inn at Dorchester too, but that might be too early after the stop in Somerton. Anyone have any (helpful) thoughts on this ? A new Travelodge in Codford would be great, but sadly there isn't such a thing.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: iddu on January 19, 2016, 03:24:07 pm
YHPM
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on January 19, 2016, 03:40:40 pm
and another PM, this time from Dorchester
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: mattc on January 19, 2016, 07:33:30 pm
Anyone have any (helpful) thoughts on this ?
Yes:

Where do I flipping start? You're totally bonkers! Stay home, wash the cat, re-sort your Arrivee collection, read War and Peace.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on January 19, 2016, 08:21:19 pm
and another PM, this time from Dorchester
YHPM

Good on you, chaps.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on January 19, 2016, 08:58:13 pm
Anyone have any (helpful) thoughts on this ?
Yes:

Where do I flipping start? You're totally bonkers! Stay home, wash the cat, re-sort your Arrivee collection, read War and Peace.

Ah - but where's the fun in that ?  ;)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on January 19, 2016, 09:07:02 pm
and another PM, this time from Dorchester
YHPM

Good on you, chaps.

I'd just like to say - I really appreciate the offers of help. Very generous !
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on January 20, 2016, 12:54:46 pm
Right then. The tyres have been pumped up, the chain oiled and the moustache waxed. I'm as ready to ride the Crackpot as I'll ever be.

I'll start the ride at 8pm this Friday from that spiritual starting place for so many a Wessex ride, the 24 hour BP garage on Longfleet Road.

I'm sticking to the most recent route sheet with the intention of 'doing it proper' - despite the change of date / season etc. ...

Because I'm riding it in the winter, sleeping in a box in a Wells alleyway is out - despite the obvious lure of such accommodation. Instead I have a place to stop and sleep for the second night in Somerton.

The problem I have now is the third night. I don't where I'll be on the road, so booking anything is tricky. I imagine I could be anywhere between Dorchester and Membury Services. The Days Inn at Membury Services is an option, but will they be able to check me in in the small hours ? I've read a review that stated that there was no-one there to check the reviewer in. That's no good. I could stink up the Burger King for a few hours, but I doubt it'll be restful enough at that point. There's a Premier Inn at Dorchester too, but that might be too early after the stop in Somerton. Anyone have any (helpful) thoughts on this ? A new Travelodge in Codford would be great, but sadly there isn't such a thing.

You are a braver man than I am.  Good luck and hopefully not too much bon voyage (when it rains).
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on January 22, 2016, 06:28:19 pm
Good luck matey - let us know your progress
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on January 22, 2016, 07:25:26 pm
Right then. The tyres have been pumped up, the chain oiled and the moustache waxed. I'm as ready to ride the Crackpot as I'll ever be.

I'll start the ride at 8pm this Friday from that spiritual starting place for so many a Wessex ride, the 24 hour BP garage on Longfleet Road.

I'm sticking to the most recent route sheet with the intention of 'doing it proper' - despite the change of date / season etc. ...

Because I'm riding it in the winter, sleeping in a box in a Wells alleyway is out - despite the obvious lure of such accommodation. Instead I have a place to stop and sleep for the second night in Somerton.

The problem I have now is the third night. I don't where I'll be on the road, so booking anything is tricky. I imagine I could be anywhere between Dorchester and Membury Services. The Days Inn at Membury Services is an option, but will they be able to check me in in the small hours ? I've read a review that stated that there was no-one there to check the reviewer in. That's no good. I could stink up the Burger King for a few hours, but I doubt it'll be restful enough at that point. There's a Premier Inn at Dorchester too, but that might be too early after the stop in Somerton. Anyone have any (helpful) thoughts on this ? A new Travelodge in Codford would be great, but sadly there isn't such a thing.

There is a pub in Codford but I don't know if it does accommodation plus another in Corton (Dove Inn) which does. You could always call them and find out.

All the best on the ride and I hope it stays reasonably mild for you.  :thumbsup:

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on January 22, 2016, 10:26:06 pm
You're already in the best ride...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on January 23, 2016, 06:27:21 am
Ongoing mental support operating!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on January 23, 2016, 09:12:06 am
There's a live track (some of the time) here: goo.gl/Jdt0O8 (http://goo.gl/Jdt0O8)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on January 23, 2016, 09:16:35 am
Thanks Andrew!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on January 23, 2016, 09:28:28 am
The boy's making good progress looking at the tracker. Already over Dunkery Beacon and tackling the extreme lumpiness of Exmoor. Allez!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on January 23, 2016, 12:15:26 pm
Hopefully the weather is as mild over in Wessex as it is in the south east.
The level of audacity in taking on this route in the winter is off the scale.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: teethgrinder on January 23, 2016, 12:24:52 pm
Riding it as a solo DIY is something, let alone doing it in winter.
Looks like it's my turn to watch someone else on a live tracker.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on January 23, 2016, 12:37:41 pm
Hopefully the weather is as mild over in Wessex as it is in the south east.
The level of audacity in taking on this route in the winter is off the scale.

Indeed. I keep thinking "he's got lucky with the weather", but then remind myself that it is still many, many hours of riding in the dark on the special Wessex lanes.

Amazing.

Not something I would consider, I would want to see more of what I am climbing over!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hellymedic on January 23, 2016, 12:42:43 pm
Riding it as a solo DIY is something, let alone doing it in winter.
Looks like it's my turn to watch someone else on a live tracker.

 ;D ;D ;D

Hope you have a good supply of TEA1 and chocky biccies and are sitting in a warm room!

1) or any other beverage
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on January 23, 2016, 12:47:24 pm
Bad news - I've had to pack. Climbing Dunkery Beacon at night in an icy cloud whilst having the dozies meant I lost even more time than Id been losing earlier. Thought I'd tough it out & see how I felt at Bovey, but I was going to miss the 'control closing'  and just couldn't see myself getting the time back later.

Back to the drawing board for another attempt later in the year. At least I've recce'd Dunkery Beacon now.

How on earth did anyone ride the Crackpot on fixed by the way!?

Thanks for all the positive vibes folks.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: teethgrinder on January 23, 2016, 01:21:50 pm
Unlucky, but a good try.
I saw the tracker at Crediton and thought you were a few hours behind, so now I know why.
That section from Minehead to Bovey was probably the toughest of all.
There were 3 of us who rode Crackpot on fixed.
Rob Gray in 2000 (who has since got himself pretty fast and has done 480 in the Mersey 24)
Alan Pedliham in 1998 and 2000
Myself all 3 Crackpots plus a wonky unoficial version where I went off route a fair bit.
There was a bit of walking involved.


Puts away tea and biccies... :'(
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hellymedic on January 23, 2016, 01:41:47 pm
Oh dear!
Amazing courage even to try!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on January 23, 2016, 02:48:34 pm
Bad news - I've had to pack. Climbing Dunkery Beacon at night in an icy cloud whilst having the dozies meant I lost even more time than Id been losing earlier. Thought I'd tough it out & see how I felt at Bovey, but I was going to miss the 'control closing'  and just couldn't see myself getting the time back later.

Back to the drawing board for another attempt later in the year. At least I've recce'd Dunkery Beacon now.


A darn site harder that sitting at home reading posts on here, that's for sure. Well done for giving it a go though; reasonable weather or not, January is a challenging month for most of us  riding a 200 let alone this one.

If you are looking to attempt this later in the year you are likely to find others keen to join you - including me.  :thumbsup:

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How on earth did anyone ride the Crackpot on fixed by the way!?

Queue Jonah.....and not just the Crackpot either.

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on January 23, 2016, 05:26:19 pm
Unlucky, but a good try.
I saw the tracker at Crediton and thought you were a few hours behind, so now I know why.
That section from Minehead to Bovey was probably the toughest of all.
There were 3 of us who rode Crackpot on fixed.
Rob Gray in 2000 (who has since got himself pretty fast and has done 480 in the Mersey 24)
Alan Pedliham in 1998 and 2000
Myself all 3 Crackpots plus a wonky unoficial version where I went off route a fair bit.
There was a bit of walking involved.


Puts away tea and biccies... :'(

Cheeers. As I was dropping away from, first, my schedule and then the control closing times, I kept saying to myself, 'if only I had some lower gears' only to remind myself that you and others have ridden it fixed !

Sorry to ruin your weekend of live track viewing by the way !
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on January 23, 2016, 05:35:57 pm
A darn site harder that sitting at home reading posts on here, that's for sure. Well done for giving it a go though; reasonable weather or not, January is a challenging month for most of us  riding a 200 let alone this one.

Yes - Dunkery Beacon had a different climate than the rest of the ride ...

If you are looking to attempt this later in the year you are likely to find others keen to join you - including me.  :thumbsup:

Sounds like a plan. How do we organise this so we have dates and controls - especially for sleeping ? As much as I enjoyed sleeping in an emergency tin foil sleeping bag in a bus(?) shelter in Withypool, it'd be a bit cramped for a group and it wasn't fantastically restful ...

Do you have any dates in mind ?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on January 23, 2016, 06:24:58 pm
Back to the drawing board for another attempt later in the year.

 :)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on January 23, 2016, 11:33:59 pm

Sounds like a plan. How do we organise this so we have dates and controls - especially for sleeping ? As much as I enjoyed sleeping in an emergency tin foil sleeping bag in a bus(?) shelter in Withypool, it'd be a bit cramped for a group and it wasn't fantastically restful ...

Do you have any dates in mind ?

Not at the moment but with respect to controls and sleep stops, I would have thought Jonah and Teethgrinder's previous experience may be a guide. To be honest, if all else failed I would rough it.

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Bianchi Boy on January 24, 2016, 08:16:53 am
Unlucky, but a good try.
I saw the tracker at Crediton and thought you were a few hours behind, so now I know why.
That section from Minehead to Bovey was probably the toughest of all.
There were 3 of us who rode Crackpot on fixed.
Rob Gray in 2000 (who has since got himself pretty fast and has done 480 in the Mersey 24)
Alan Pedliham in 1998 and 2000
Myself all 3 Crackpots plus a wonky unoficial version where I went off route a fair bit.
There was a bit of walking involved.


Puts away tea and biccies... :'(

I thought Swiss Hat had do it on fixed? Must have been mistaken.

BB
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on January 24, 2016, 08:28:03 am
Bad news - I've had to pack. Climbing Dunkery Beacon at night in an icy cloud whilst having the dozies meant I lost even more time than Id been losing earlier. Thought I'd tough it out & see how I felt at Bovey, but I was going to miss the 'control closing'  and just couldn't see myself getting the time back later.

Back to the drawing board for another attempt later in the year. At least I've recce'd Dunkery Beacon now.

How on earth did anyone ride the Crackpot on fixed by the way!?

Thanks for all the positive vibes folks.

To have tried and to have failed is better than not trying at all. well done.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on January 24, 2016, 08:31:05 am
Never mind. Audax would be less fun if every challenge we start were a guaranteed success.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on January 24, 2016, 11:04:06 am
Good effort Graham and I'm sorry you had to pack!  When you're ready, lets get some possible dates for a second assualt
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on January 24, 2016, 11:14:32 am
To have tried and to have failed is better than not trying at all. well done.

Never mind. Audax would be less fun if every challenge we start were a guaranteed success.

Thanks. I'm disappointed, but it's only made me more determined!

In the meantime, here's the ride on Strava with some photos which give a flavour of the conditions:
https://www.strava.com/activities/476834918 (https://www.strava.com/activities/476834918)

The first pic is of a sign taken just after the unbelievable climb between Halstock & Hardington Mandeville. I'd never seen that sign before !
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on January 24, 2016, 11:20:13 am
 
Good effort Graham and I'm sorry you had to pack!  When you're ready, lets get some possible dates for a second assualt

Cheers Jonah. It all puts your massive achievement doing the ride on fixed into even sharper perspective for me ! It's one tough ride ...

When do you think you'll be ready to ride it again ? I'm keen to get going again - preferably when there's a full moon. That certainly helped although I couldn't go full speed on many of the descents because they're wessex lanes. I got a pinch flat on a pothole during one such descent, but at least I had some moon light to help me clean the mud off and swap out the tube.  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on January 24, 2016, 11:57:13 am
I thought Swiss Hat had do it on fixed? Must have been mistaken.

BB

My steed for CrAcKpOt, note the gearzzzz ;D

(http://i633.photobucket.com/albums/uu52/motog/Crackpot/DSCF2508.jpg) (http://s633.photobucket.com/user/motog/media/Crackpot/DSCF2508.jpg.html)

Audacious attempt Graham. I'm sure the experience gained will help with the next attempt. Wait until nearer the summer though eh?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on January 24, 2016, 06:19:07 pm
15-17-Apr-2016?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on January 24, 2016, 07:07:08 pm
5-season tyres (no!?, not 'tires' - that means something else) all the way since my last Brimmers assault (9-p*******s between the 2 of us - (I had 4)).  I tried those GPX-'4-season' Rizzla Papers on a Hellish perm once but the 'Port Stanley Airport Runway, Circa 1982' style conditions soon put paid to them.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on January 24, 2016, 07:52:41 pm
5-season tyres (no!?, not 'tires' - that means something else) all the way since my last Brimmers assault (9-p*******s between the 2 of us - (I had 4)).  I tried those GPX-'4-season' Rizzla Papers on a Hellish perm once but the 'Port Stanley Airport Runway, Circa 1982' style conditions soon put paid to them.

Yup - Conti 4 Seasons aren't designed for wessex lanes ...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: phydaux on January 24, 2016, 08:20:25 pm
Never having heard of the CrAcKpOt before, I looked up the route on Ride with GPS (http://ridewithgps.com/routes/10663412)

Is it supposed to finish just outside the Accident and Emergency entrance of Poole General Hospital?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on January 24, 2016, 08:45:21 pm
Never having heard of the CrAcKpOt before, I looked up the route on Ride with GPS (http://ridewithgps.com/routes/10663412)

Is it supposed to finish just outside the Accident and Emergency entrance of Poole General Hospital?

Assuming the track doesn't actually go in through the doors, yes, that is the finish.  There's a garage there.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hellymedic on January 24, 2016, 08:48:26 pm
That garage is just outside Poole Hospital's A&E department..
...where Shawn & I sometimes chatted the night away at work in days of yore.
Shawn lives nearby and threw his home open as a control for the Calendar event.

That garage was also useful for me to convert a ride to my parents into a Hostel Dart.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on January 24, 2016, 09:01:54 pm

The first pic is of a sign taken just after the unbelievable climb between Halstock & Hardington Mandeville. I'd never seen that sign before !

I believe this climb is an annual feature of the Primrose Path. One year, in the ice, I witnessed Scampi (of this parish) fall off and slide back down the hill - he and the bike on its side.

It is tricky.

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on January 25, 2016, 09:38:44 am

My steed for CrAcKpOt, note the gearzzzz ;D

Audacious attempt Graham. I'm sure the experience gained will help with the next attempt. Wait until nearer the summer though eh?

Thanks.  Nice bike - is that a triple ? Could've done with one of them.

The summer would indeed make it a different ride ...

15-17-Apr-2016?

As for the next attempt ... I'm thinking of possibly trying again at the next full moon (20th Feb). It just seems appropriate in so many ways ... :-D  I'm not taking the weather for granted though. I was rather fortunate this weekend !

Don't think I can postpone it because the calendar's filling up.

I'd be happy to pop down to Minehead or somewhere to provide a mobile control for anyone else if required on other attempts though**. (Nowhere was open in Minehead apparently at 5 a.m. on a Saturday ... unless anyone knows any different - ? ) ** Calendar & Mrs GS permitting ;-)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Graeme on January 25, 2016, 11:40:00 am
Amazing ride Jonah, and GS' attempt in Jan is impressive. Having looked at the route it is going on my 'to do' list. I like the idea of riding this solo/DIY but have no idea when an opportunity will present itself. Perhaps in a year or two. In the meantime I'm following all the reports on this one as it looks thoroughly awesome.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: vorsprung on January 25, 2016, 12:50:23 pm
(Nowhere was open in Minehead apparently at 5 a.m. on a Saturday ... unless anyone knows any different - ? )

McDonalds opens at 6am apparently.  There's nothing genuinely 24h
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on January 25, 2016, 06:20:47 pm
I'd be happy to pop down to Minehead or somewhere to provide a mobile control for anyone else if required on other attempts though**. (Nowhere was open in Minehead apparently at 5 a.m. on a Saturday ... unless anyone knows any different - ? ) ** Calendar & Mrs GS permitting ;-)

That is a special feature of these rides as Perms.

On the Hellfire, even if you are a moderately good climber and don't hang around,  there is nothing open on the route from Taunton Deane services until the Summer cafe in Malmesbury - that's 136km, mostly in the small hours of the morning with nothing other than the food and water you have on you.

Pretty much the same happens overnight on the Porkers with the sections from Taunton Deane down to Winterborne Whitechurch and on to Shrewton - about 130km of nothing open.

If you don't carry provisions with you, you are stuffed.

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on January 27, 2016, 09:05:51 am
That is a special feature of these rides as Perms.

On the Hellfire, even if you are a moderately good climber and don't hang around,  there is nothing open on the route from Taunton Deane services until the Summer cafe in Malmesbury - that's 136km, mostly in the small hours of the morning with nothing other than the food and water you have on you.

Pretty much the same happens overnight on the Porkers with the sections from Taunton Deane down to Winterborne Whitechurch and on to Shrewton - about 130km of nothing open.

If you don't carry provisions with you, you are stuffed.

I absolutely agree. If you ride through the night, you have to be prepared.

If you eat well before you start at Poole and have gels & energy bars & 2 filled bidons, getting to Minehead (at 150K) is no problem. Getting over Exmoor without being able to top up at Minehead is more problematic. I was lucky and was able to top up with water at Tesco in Minehead because I got chatting with one of the staff who ushered me into their canteen. If it hadn't have been for that chance encounter, I'd have ridden onto Exmoor with only 3/4 of a bidon full of water - which would probably have been fine - but if I'd been on time, there would've been nothing open until well into that demanding stage. It's a delicate balancing act to get the provisions and weight right.

I carried too much last weekend which slowed me up. I'd 'over-prepared' which in fact meant I wasn't properly prepared at all - if that makes sense. Next time, I'll definitely carry less - except for water maybe ...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: teethgrinder on January 27, 2016, 10:48:47 am
Keep me posted on plans about Crackpot. I'm in two minds about riding it and helping others have a go.

I'm thinking along the lines of setting up a camp in Minehead (and possibly other locations) so that I can man some controls.
You may need to chip in a few quid so we can buy a big family sized tent then I could set it up and cook some food etc.

In fact, I'm quite warming to the idea of a low mileage tour of Wessex, towing my trailer and having camping fun for a week or so.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on January 28, 2016, 08:32:02 am

15-17-Apr-2016?

As for the next attempt ... I'm thinking of possibly trying again at the next full moon (20th Feb).

Don't think I can postpone it because the calendar's filling up.


Turns out that Mrs S is less than enamoured with that idea ... so now I don't know when I'll be able to fit it in. Balls.  :(
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 18, 2016, 11:51:48 am
Got to go for it, never mind the forecast - my time window is running out. Longfleet Rd BP Garage tonight. If a knee-knackered hill crawler such as myself can have a bash perhaps we'll get enough interest for the man to do the thing again..... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on June 18, 2016, 12:20:38 pm
 :thumbsup: indeed!

All the best for this.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 18, 2016, 07:06:41 pm
Got to go for it, never mind the forecast - my time window is running out. Longfleet Rd BP Garage tonight. If a knee-knackered hill crawler such as myself can have a bash perhaps we'll get enough interest for the man to do the thing again..... :thumbsup:

Perfect time to ride it. Bon route !!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on June 18, 2016, 07:37:42 pm
Bon route, Smeth!
Why thoughts will be with you, as I struggled 'round back in 2000, the last time it was run as a calendar event. Jus imagine navigating by only the route sheet and paper maps, 'cause that was all we had back then!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 18, 2016, 07:53:06 pm
Cheers. I've read Georges article featuring a youthful pic of you. I have the route sheet and map but a shed load of battery life. 8 mins to kick off as I sit outside the BP garage of destiny....
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on June 18, 2016, 09:14:42 pm
May the good weather gods be with you...!!
And if you do get a bit drowsy on the ride, just consider the advice of Dr Box 'just ride it off...' was wat we were told back in the day!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on June 19, 2016, 07:40:14 pm
Give us an update ??
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 19, 2016, 10:56:35 pm
Sunday 19th June.

Through Halstock. 11.25pm.  Doing OK.

Minehead. Leaving 0425. A bit of drizzle, Exmoor should be fun.

Rained all the way over the moors, mostle mizzle.  Leaving Bovey Tracey at 11.35.

6.15pm Heading for services and sleep.  About 90mins up on time.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 20, 2016, 05:50:20 am
Excellent! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on June 20, 2016, 07:29:12 am
Excellent indeed. Ongoing supportive thoughts....
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 20, 2016, 08:31:49 am
My next bike will be a pedalo. Wells 0700. Has chucked it down - particularly last 3 hours since checked out of bus shelter.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on June 20, 2016, 08:46:46 am
Looks like (as you've probably seen on the radar) clear weather is now getting into the southwest, coming this way fairly fast.

(I read that as "chucked out of bus shelter".... guarded bus shelters? End of Audax as I know it?)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: WyOwyvern on June 20, 2016, 08:56:11 am
Woken by the gusting coastal winds and beating rain. Forecast to be short lived and conditions to improve afternoon and early evening.  :)
Out there somewhere Smeth is facing up to an Epic route under all this. :o
Beyond Epic now . . . way beyond.  :facepalm:
We have all had this in different measure as part of Audax: some were there for the PBP and LEL of humungous drenchings a few times back: sodden 200's by the bucket load.  ::-)
Keeping going, application to task, singleminded determination, and 'it' just to carry on.  :thumbsup:
Rolling miles, grinding downs, rushing descents, punishing climbs.  8)
Positive waves of support please for our Crackpot DIY hopeful.  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 20, 2016, 09:09:19 am
Yup - had a good soaking during the 1 hour commute - Smeth must be soaked to the skin. I'm sure the hand dryers at Michaelwood services will come in handy.

At least it'll but sunny later, according to the forecast.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on June 20, 2016, 09:12:50 am
Eat plenty and plod on. 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 20, 2016, 12:21:18 pm
Thanks all. It's easing off. Might get everything above the knees dry by tonight!
 Ian, ....I only do it for the gluttony.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: WyOwyvern on June 20, 2016, 12:22:18 pm
Storm's abated. Rain stopped, wind died, brightening skies.  :)
Keep it going  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 20, 2016, 08:41:04 pm
CrAcK on now matey!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on June 20, 2016, 08:50:04 pm
Keep on CrAck'in!!!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 20, 2016, 10:14:47 pm
Votes for a calendar ride please  :thumbsup:
+1
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on June 20, 2016, 10:43:07 pm
Votes for a calendar ride please  :thumbsup:
+1

I have a slight inkling of the size of the task.  Though, of course, Shawn might have cunning plans.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hellymedic on June 20, 2016, 10:46:27 pm
I fear a calendar Crackpot might need as many volunteers as riders, but what do I know?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 21, 2016, 12:42:06 am
Just checked into Stourpaine hotel and transport hub. Bench included. Calendar +1
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 21, 2016, 07:03:02 am
Good effort  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 21, 2016, 07:23:13 am
Just checked into Stourpaine hotel and transport hub. Bench included. Calendar +1

A bench ? Luxury !   ;D

+1 for calendar - but, yes, volunteer gratitude for such an event would be off the scale ! Controls open for longer than 24 hours for (probably) fewer than 24 riders ? That's dedication.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Paul D on June 21, 2016, 08:59:45 am
+ another 1 for a calendar Crackpot. I'm local enough that I'm willing to volunteer to run a 24hr+ control (for instance Stourpaine mentioned above is 3 miles from my hours...but I can't remember where the official controls are, been a long time since I saw a crackpot routesheet and I managed to wipe that memory before it took root ;D ).
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 21, 2016, 09:28:42 am
Panicked this morning with a doubt attack. Lost 25 mins to bridge closure then slept through alarm by 30 mins.. Left at 4.10 calculating like crazy. Then the sun shone, I got my s**t together and started tipping minutes back into the buffer bucket. Super rapid fry up at Codford, pockets full of cake, empty but now less painful legs. now 40k from Membury. Conditions perfect.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on June 21, 2016, 09:34:32 am
Keep on doing it!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on June 21, 2016, 09:46:04 am
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 21, 2016, 10:21:29 am
You're nearly there - just keep rolling!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on June 21, 2016, 10:32:26 am
Conditions perfect.
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
+1 for calendar also
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on June 21, 2016, 11:02:44 am
+1 Calendar

I'd hit it.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 21, 2016, 01:42:12 pm
Go man go!  The last two stages are relatively easy.  There's a slight incline through the New Forest but nothing like the AKA you've munched already - the last control is luxurious but service quite slow - I'd pack more food in at Membury and bust through to Poole
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Frank9755 on June 21, 2016, 02:38:22 pm
Is it a perm ATM, or just unofficial?
I thought about having a shot at this this weekend but couldn't see it on the AUK site.  And then I looked at the map, and went for something a little easier!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Bernster on June 21, 2016, 02:53:47 pm
Keep it going Smeth - hoping to hear another positive update shortly  :thumbsup:

another +1 for a calendar Crackpot if it's logistically possible (although might just end up being the Wessex ride that finishes me off).
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 21, 2016, 09:06:06 pm
Made it. 2.5 hours to spare. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:  ;D
Sorry no update due to text fails and grim patch earlier but got back on the job with head down.  Words fail me.
 Ride report/more sometime

Thanks so much for those regular gentle shoves and good to know someone knows you are out there. Especially when it's sluicing down!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hellymedic on June 21, 2016, 09:08:14 pm
Well Done!  :) :) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on June 21, 2016, 09:09:47 pm
Excellent work!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 21, 2016, 09:14:00 pm
When I say gentle shoves, in Jonah's case I mean enthusiatic kicks in the backside. Cheers. Much welcomed
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 21, 2016, 09:22:41 pm
Well done - top work Smeth !  :thumbsup:

I'm looking forward to the write up ... and the control times ....
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on June 21, 2016, 09:35:53 pm
Seriously strong stuff , well done!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: WyOwyvern on June 21, 2016, 09:54:34 pm
 :thumbsup: Excellent! Knew you would :thumbsup:
Now for Scotland . . .
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on June 21, 2016, 10:38:41 pm
Excellent effort, Smeth! And, Welcome to the club!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 21, 2016, 11:08:03 pm
A-1
Fcukin' good effort Smeth!  :thumbsup:

(Aside from the prestige of dealing with such a ball busting epic - What a ride?!?  Beautiful all the way round - the hidden jewel of the WSR(25)?)



Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Bernster on June 22, 2016, 09:40:20 am
Fantastic work Smeth - really well done  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Simon_A on June 22, 2016, 11:33:58 am
Great effort Smeth, well done!!!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 22, 2016, 12:23:35 pm
Votes for a calendar ride please  :thumbsup:
+1

I have a slight inkling of the size of the task.  Though, of course, Shawn might have cunning plans.

I'd be happy to help with the catering at a control or two.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on June 22, 2016, 04:05:15 pm
Respect is due Smeth :thumbsup:. Tough conditions too for the glorious British summer.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 29, 2016, 03:23:52 pm
Here's the write up. Massive brain dump, unfortunately don't have massive brain. Aim is to give info and one way of doing it to others.

https://smethblog.wordpress.com/2016/06/29/crackpot/

I'm hoping this'll show an average rider can do this sucker with some planning and prep. Maybe we can get a group DIY together as suggested above? Who knows if it will appear on the Calendar again? If either look like happening I thought I'd tidy and modify this and put some pics in and submit to Arrivee timed to try and encourage people to ride. There are other posts and accounts from others that might also help.

Thanks again everyone for the morale boosting posts.
DS
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on June 29, 2016, 03:30:23 pm
Think your link is wrong.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on June 29, 2016, 03:30:57 pm
Try: https://smethblog.wordpress.com/2016/06/29/crackpot/
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 29, 2016, 03:34:16 pm
Think your link is wrong.

They both work for me. Never blogged before so oops. I've edited the original post to give Hippy's link address. Ta.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 29, 2016, 03:41:33 pm
More info, here's a link to my Ridewithgps.
https://ridewithgps.com/users/453518
Click ROUTES and scroll down for versions of the whole gpx and the route broken into stages. They are scattered around the list a bit. BEWARE there are distance anomalies possibly due to unnoticed backtracks in the creation.
Click RIDES for the actual ridden and tidied up track. You can see when I was losing the plot as I do mini off-courses.

Official AAA 13250m = 13.25 points
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 29, 2016, 03:56:05 pm
Nice write up !

I'm sure it'll get some people out there thinking that maybe they should have a go ....
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Bernster on June 29, 2016, 04:21:26 pm
Very enjoyable read Smeth - I'm almost tempted to have a crack at riding it one day.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on June 30, 2016, 07:51:20 am
Nicely done on the write up.

I know all about the 'we' thing - I think it is definitely part of long solo riding that helps keeping you sane. Every part of my recent ride in France, I would always think as 'we', 'we need to ride another 50k before bed' etc. I find it helps. It was either that, or the shiny gold ring we found, my precious.

As a Wessex SR, I feel beholden to this ride. Some day soon.
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Post by: Simon_A on June 30, 2016, 09:31:11 am
Great read about a great ride.  Thanks Smeth, or should that be The Abbots Ann Silver Fox  :P
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Post by: Smeth on June 30, 2016, 10:01:28 pm
should that be The Abbots Ann Silver Fox  :P

If you've got it, either flaunt it, or take something for it ::-)
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Post by: hippy on July 01, 2016, 09:37:16 am
I notice in your report you said you did a lot of planning. Is it hard to find resupply points on this route or was it because you were worried about missing the time cut?
I need a replacement for the Mille Pennines next weekend when the new bike is hopefully up and running and the Crackpot might be a good test of bike and kit but wondering what more I need than a bike, the GPS track and motivation? :)
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Post by: Smeth on July 01, 2016, 10:14:57 am
I notice in your report you said you did a lot of planning. Is it hard to find resupply points on this route or was it because you were worried about missing the time cut?

Planning reason:
1. I enjoy it.
2. Shawn said it was a good idea.
3. Resupply is difficult especially on a Sunday.
4. I felt it was right at the limit of what I could do. Knowing what was coming up and how to pace and not panic worked for me.

I know you are pretty quick and go pretty far so just to focus first on resupply, zilch for stages 1,2 and most  of 3. Then night stages are obviously sparse. Towns are mostly avoided. Village shops have short hours. But there is stuff there. I found it before leaving.

I scanned bivvy spots on streetview.

I use gps and probably could have got hold of Jonah's track but I don't like entering a purple line tunnel with no idea what country I'm going through. I'm finding out about my own adopted part of the world hence drawing my own track, maps etc. Plus following others tracks is a risk.

It was a real help getting hold of tracks later and checking I was in the ball park. I also wanted to be as faithful to the original as possible but had to replace 8 intermediate controls that were homes or village halls.

The other bit of planning was a failed effort at looking at accomodation (village b&b and country hotels not flexible enough) so moved on to bivvy research like you've been doing..

Some of this could be changed by a change of start time but it shifts the problems.. anyway I guess reason no 1 made it enjoyable. I'm only learning this still so I've not reached the quietly confident stage yet.

Go for it.
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Post by: veloboy on July 01, 2016, 11:27:03 pm
Really nice write up Smeth!
Very much enjoyed reading that and encourages me that one day a 'group perm' should be organised for sure!
I remember on the 2000 calendar event, literally falling asleep on the bike on descents, only to be awoken by the sudden knock of hitting a pothole on the lanes! I vividly remember forming a groupetto lead by aka 'Dr Box' - when someone complained and pleaded 'let's just stop for a 5 min kip' his replay was to just 'ride it off'... Well, it just kind of happened out that...
But we had no GPS in those days for sure!
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Post by: GPS on September 09, 2016, 10:33:32 am
I'm having another go - this time starting from Keynsham though, which is a lot closer to home.

So, although it's the same route, it's not an 8pm Friday night start at the BP garage on Longfleet rd. in Poole - so it's a not a real Crackpot. Let's just say it's a recce for a proper ride later on when I've got more time.

Someone else is riding it next week too I hear ...
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Post by: Smeth on September 09, 2016, 11:15:01 am
Sounds proper to me - You have the joy of Exmoor after many more kms.

I shared some of our info with James,one of the ACH guys - whoever is out there good luck. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Hummers on September 12, 2016, 05:35:47 am
Well done on completing it Smeth. :thumbsup:

It was on my roadmap in 2013 but had to be dropped due to other stuff.

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on September 12, 2016, 09:18:10 pm
I'm having another go - this time starting from Keynsham though, which is a lot closer to home.

So, although it's the same route, it's not an 8pm Friday night start at the BP garage on Longfleet rd. in Poole - so it's a not a real Crackpot. Let's just say it's a recce for a proper ride later on when I've got more time.

Someone else is riding it next week too I hear ...

How did you do?
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Post by: vorsprung on September 12, 2016, 09:28:22 pm
I'm having another go - this time starting from Keynsham though, which is a lot closer to home.

So, although it's the same route, it's not an 8pm Friday night start at the BP garage on Longfleet rd. in Poole - so it's a not a real Crackpot. Let's just say it's a recce for a proper ride later on when I've got more time.

Someone else is riding it next week too I hear ...

How did you do?

Maybe they are still out there
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Post by: tonyh on September 12, 2016, 09:45:57 pm
Yes, the start dates were yesterday and tomorrow.

Go the intrepid riders!
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Post by: Jonah on September 12, 2016, 09:47:27 pm
Is it Smeth & GPS?
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Post by: tonyh on September 12, 2016, 09:49:18 pm
Not Smeth but Simon Till.
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Post by: Smeth on September 12, 2016, 10:00:41 pm
Good luck. Any help needed I'm down in the bottom right hand corner with a garage too full of bits a well supplied fridge and a spare room.
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Post by: GPS on September 14, 2016, 04:25:10 pm
Wow - what a ride !

I survived !

Had a mixed bag of weather, but once you've been soaked and covered in slurry, and sleep deprivation kicks in, you stop caring. I had to really dig deep to keep going between Minehead & Culmstock - the laney, slurry-covered climbs and descents were relentless. Those climbs really slow you down and just seem like they'll never end.

Note to self - use mudguards next time.  :facepalm:  The weight you save by not fitting them is quickly added back to your bike on a damp Wessex ride. Got some quality disbelieving stares in the Motorway services ...

Tired and knackered now. Wonder how Simon's getting on ? There are a few really irritating diversions on the route at the moment.
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Post by: Smeth on September 14, 2016, 04:28:36 pm
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: give us an update when you've had a kip and/or can face it.
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Post by: Jonah on September 14, 2016, 06:31:17 pm
Wow - what a ride !

MEGATRON
Good effort GPS!


I survived !

Had a mixed bag of weather, but once you've been soaked and covered in slurry, and sleep deprivation kicks in, you stop caring. I had to really dig deep to keep going between Minehead & Culmstock - the laney, slurry-covered climbs and descents were relentless. Those climbs really slow you down and just seem like they'll never end.

Note to self - use mudguards next time.  :facepalm:  The weight you save by not fitting them is quickly added back to your bike on a damp Wessex ride. Got some quality disbelieving stares in the Motorway services ...

Tired and knackered now. Wonder how Simon's getting on ? There are a few really irritating diversions on the route at the moment.
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Post by: Hummers on September 15, 2016, 11:56:19 am
Wow - what a ride !

I survived !

Had a mixed bag of weather, but once you've been soaked and covered in slurry, and sleep deprivation kicks in, you stop caring. I had to really dig deep to keep going between Minehead & Culmstock - the laney, slurry-covered climbs and descents were relentless. Those climbs really slow you down and just seem like they'll never end.

Note to self - use mudguards next time.  :facepalm:  The weight you save by not fitting them is quickly added back to your bike on a damp Wessex ride. Got some quality disbelieving stares in the Motorway services ...

Tired and knackered now. Wonder how Simon's getting on ? There are a few really irritating diversions on the route at the moment.

Well done that man  :thumbsup:

H
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Post by: tonyh on September 15, 2016, 05:16:21 pm
Brilliant ride, GPS!

Wonder how Simon's getting on ?

He had some sleep near Frome (on the third of the four southwards legs) in the early hours of today.

He had time in hand. He's got until 2.08pm tomorrow (Friday) to reach the finish at Poole.

Here's wishing him well!
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Post by: GPS on September 15, 2016, 05:58:23 pm
Brilliant ride, GPS!

Wonder how Simon's getting on ?

He had some sleep near Frome (on the third of the four southwards legs) in the early hours of today.

He had time in hand. He's got until 2.08pm tomorrow (Friday) to reach the finish at Poole.

Here's wishing him well!

Great news!

Only 350K to go - with a much nicer profile. He's nearly home & dry ... he's just got to keep plugging away.
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Post by: Jonah on September 15, 2016, 11:26:34 pm
Any news?
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Post by: Smeth on September 16, 2016, 12:01:33 am
At that rate the end must be nigh - maybe next three hours or maybe even already done. Blooming good going. By the way Jonah - looking forward to GMC on Saturday. Wessex pilgrimage to see what you strange folk get up to when you're not down here. From the profile it looks very much the same.
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Post by: tonyh on September 16, 2016, 10:33:31 am
Simon was refuelling at Ower at about 8.30 am.... "just" the New Forest to cross. Depending on sleep needs etc., could be finishing before long.... Excellent riding.
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Post by: tonyh on September 16, 2016, 12:09:23 pm
From Simon at 11.57:

"I can't believe this.... 4km away from centre of Poole and rear derailleur has completely twisted. So I guess I'm going to have to push to get to the station! that's all I need! At least it didn't happen in the wessex wilds...
Oh well I knew I needed a new chainset."
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Post by: GPS on September 16, 2016, 12:25:16 pm
From Simon at 11.57:

"I can't believe this.... 4km away from centre of Poole and rear derailleur has completely twisted. So I guess I'm going to have to push to get to the station! that's all I need! At least it didn't happen in the wessex wilds...
Oh well I knew I needed a new chainset."

At least he'll be able to finish ...  :o

Simultaneous good and bad luck! If such misfortune was going to happen anywhere, 4km from the finish when you've got time in hand isn't bad.

I imagine he'll be quite relieved to finish. That might be an understatement.
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Post by: Banjo on September 16, 2016, 12:34:28 pm
Thank goodness that happened so close to the finish. Epic ride beyond anything I could imagine. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Post by: tonyh on September 16, 2016, 12:44:33 pm
(Sorry I've got to go offline now, so won't be able to report a great finish promptly.)
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Post by: Smeth on September 16, 2016, 01:02:57 pm
One the one hand - cripes! On the other, Bravo, he's going to do it.  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Jonah on September 16, 2016, 01:45:41 pm
From Simon at 11.57:

"I can't believe this.... 4km away from centre of Poole and rear derailleur has completely twisted. So I guess I'm going to have to push to get to the station! that's all I need! At least it didn't happen in the wessex wilds...
Oh well I knew I needed a new chainset."

Bummer!
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Post by: Hummers on September 16, 2016, 06:44:33 pm
From Simon at 11.57:

"I can't believe this.... 4km away from centre of Poole and rear derailleur has completely twisted. So I guess I'm going to have to push to get to the station! that's all I need! At least it didn't happen in the wessex wilds...
Oh well I knew I needed a new chainset."

Bummer!

Says the man with one gear  :demon:

H

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Post by: Jonah on September 16, 2016, 09:34:19 pm
If a skimmer snaps a chain, what's the best way of setting it up single-speed to finish a ride? 

I remember when I tried to convert a Raleigh Bomber to SS but leaving the block on; the chain just jumped off onto another cog and got chewed up.  I was late for work at the not-so-local Cantonese restaurant where it was my job to introduce the delights of GB fish & chips.  Luckily a mate was passing in his work van and loaded the Bomber on board (it took two of us) - I digress...

I suppose it was because they are not cogs in the true sense and are made to change gear?  Probably better to use the outer one (even though it will probably be the same size a satellite dish) and the outer ring on the front??
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Post by: Ian H on September 16, 2016, 09:41:31 pm
I tend to carry a small adjustable.  In addition to undoing a fixed-wheel, it's useful for straightening things.  I've rescued someone's bent gear hanger with it.  You could probably use it to unmangle a derailleur sufficiently to proceed, if not to actually change gear.
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Post by: Hummers on September 17, 2016, 04:53:11 am
If a skimmer snaps a chain, what's the best way of setting it up single-speed to finish a ride? 

I remember when I tried to convert a Raleigh Bomber to SS but leaving the block on; the chain just jumped off onto another cog and got chewed up.  I was late for work at the not-so-local Cantonese restaurant where it was my job to introduce the delights of GB fish & chips.  Luckily a mate was passing in his work van and loaded the Bomber on board (it took two of us) - I digress...

I suppose it was because they are not cogs in the true sense and are made to change gear?  Probably better to use the outer one (even though it will probably be the same size a satellite dish) and the outer ring on the front??

I can speak from experience here.

I wrapped my rear mech into the back wheel on the Brimstone about 3 miles after Drew Buck's house.

Completion required some walking and the selection of the 38/11 combination for flattish stretches. I was able to reassemble the chain and select the 48/11 combination for the end section to Poole via the Tarrants.

H
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Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on September 17, 2016, 05:03:33 am
To swap a geared bike to SS roadside, the chainline has to be just about dead straight and the chain tension has to be in the 'Goldilocks zone' - not too loose, not too tight. Optimising for these factors is likely to result in a non-optimal choice of gearing, especially with vertical dropouts. So be it.

If the chainline is at an angle, it will keep changing gears while you are riding and either tightening or loosening the chain.

If the chain is too tight, you are much more likely to pop a chain side plate or a hub or bottom bracket bearing. If it is too loose, the chain will wander onto other cogs at inconvenient times or skip.

In July, a fellow PBP Audax rider destroyed his Campag rear mech and bent the Vitus Al dropout hanger so far that it clashed with the cassette. I bent the hanger back far enough to clear the cassette, removed the rear mech and shortened and rejoined his 10sp chain, all with my multitool. My spare 10sp quicklink had already been used and apparently he and the support crew couldn't purchase another. He rode that arrangement for a day and a half to the finish, though I made him climb in the saddle only, because I expected the chain to part at any moment.
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Post by: Simon_T on September 17, 2016, 02:11:37 pm
I've just seen this thread and all the kindly comments. Well I survived more or less in one piece (apart from the obvious).  It was an incredible ride feeling somewhat knackered now and still a bit shell shocked.  Tony provided me with Smeth's gpx - so thank-you both for that.

Good effort to GPS's ride - it was quite comforting to know I was following someone else's wheel tracks albeit a day or two after.

I hope to put together some sort of report  next week after I've pulled myself together.
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Post by: GPS on September 17, 2016, 05:10:12 pm
Well done Simon!  :thumbsup:

Quite a ride isn't it!?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Flatlander on September 17, 2016, 09:13:56 pm
If a skimmer snaps a chain, what's the best way of setting it up single-speed to finish a ride? 

I remember when I tried to convert a Raleigh Bomber to SS but leaving the block on; the chain just jumped off onto another cog and got chewed up.  I was late for work at the not-so-local Cantonese restaurant where it was my job to introduce the delights of GB fish & chips.  Luckily a mate was passing in his work van and loaded the Bomber on board (it took two of us) - I digress...

I suppose it was because they are not cogs in the true sense and are made to change gear?  Probably better to use the outer one (even though it will probably be the same size a satellite dish) and the outer ring on the front??
I did this on the BCM Scenic is 2009 I think. As others have said go for a straight chain line. I was lucky to be on a triple(but only 8spd 13-23 on the back). This meant that 41-16 was straight which is a good gear for hills but spun out on the Monmouth-Chepstow road. Obviopusly remove read derailier and shorten the chain. Chain half link long is ok. Sprocket one to the outside of straight is also safe - the others wont catch is to cause a shift when its very nearly straight but on the other side it could drop off
 when shaken
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Post by: Smeth on September 18, 2016, 01:39:55 am
Well Done Simon. Just rode Greenwich Mean Climb (with Jonah for a while.) Agree great to see people giving the beast a go. Look forward to hearing more. Hope the walk wasn't too grim. :thumbsup:
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Post by: Jonah on September 18, 2016, 10:18:22 am
Nice riding with you Smeth

and GOOD EFFORT SIMON-T  :thumbsup:
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Post by: Ian H on September 18, 2016, 10:46:43 am
Yup.  Well done everyone.
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Post by: tonyh on September 21, 2016, 12:03:54 pm
Simon's ride is on the Results now.

A notable way to reach 100 points  :thumbsup:
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Post by: hippy on October 03, 2016, 10:16:42 pm
If I wanted to ride this in the next couple of months what's the procedure? Do I need to contact Shawn Shaw (anyone got his email?) or do I nick someone's GPS track and try and do a DIY by GPS?

I don't normally worry about ride speeds but remember smeth talking about BRM minimums - do I need to worry about this? Or is it just x hours for the 1000k? I'm probably going to start, try and bash out as much as possible and bivvy when I get tired, rest, repeat. Basically training for TransAm whilst also riding a hardcore 1000k for my collection.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on October 03, 2016, 10:23:11 pm
The first calendar event was scheduled at 15k/hr minimum.  Only 3 or 4 (can't remember) of us were inside that.  Shawn appealed and ACP told him the minimum should be 13.333 (etc.).  How that is interpreted is down to your friendly perm or DIY organiser.
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Post by: Smeth on October 03, 2016, 10:51:17 pm
Hippy, It doesnt exist as a Perm so just submit a track and checkpoints to your DIY org using the mandatory routes by GPS method. I based mine on the original route sheet for the calendar event in 2000. Checkpoints were a little different as Shawn arranged some controls in people's homes. I just wanted to do it at 15kph RM speed to do  the same as the calendar riders in the originals. 75 hrs. My choice. If you want tracks etc PM me. I'll cc a message I sent to another rider. More info than you'll need. Just look up the Diy procedure and online entry on the AUK  site. There is info on Shaun's wessexsr website. Crackpot icon on home page. Sorry if this is eggsucky. Cheers. Smeth
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Post by: hippy on October 03, 2016, 10:52:09 pm
The first calendar event was scheduled at 15k/hr minimum.  Only 3 or 4 (can't remember) of us were inside that.  Shawn appealed and ACP told him the minimum should be 13.333 (etc.).  How that is interpreted is down to your friendly perm or DIY organiser.

Let's just aim for 15kph in the first instance and see what happens. If it's not validated I will do it again, faster.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 03, 2016, 11:00:37 pm
It's late and I'm talking nonsense. 75 hrs is 13.33. 15kph is required for RM usually for controls at up to 600. Orgs have discretion so Shaun determined this to be Axminster at 440k. Once you've made that you win hours as the average for the whole distance is 13.33. My bad.
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Post by: hippy on October 03, 2016, 11:06:46 pm
Hippy, It doesn't exist as a Perm so just submit a track and checkpoints to your DIY org using the mandatory routes by GPS method. I based mine on the original route sheet for the calendar event in 2000. Checkpoints were a little different as Shawn arranged some controls in people's homes. I just wanted to do it at 15kph RM speed to do the same as the calendar riders in the originals. 75 hrs. My choice. If you want tracks etc PM me. I'll cc a message I sent to another rider. More info than you'll need. Just look up the Diy procedure and online entry on the AUK  site. There is info on Shaun's wessexsr website. Crackpot icon on home page. Sorry if this is eggsucky. Cheers. Smeth

I think that's Paul Stewart since I'm London-based. Looks like I need some virtual brevets from: https://www.aukweb.net/forms/diycards.php, send the GPS and money and details to Paul and wait for him to OK it then go for it through: https://www.aukweb.net/forms/entryformdiym.php

75hrs? Not 66? Do they add sleep time for the longer ride?

Cheers for your help, I'll PM you, I'm not very clued up with this DIY thang if you couldn't tell. :D
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Post by: Manotea on October 03, 2016, 11:22:57 pm
Aspiring SE Crackpots should enter a Mandatory DIY Perm and enter DIYSE4339 in the additional info box. No other route info needed. I'll let you have a gpx track to follow, as ridden by previous crackpots (hopefully it matches the routesheet!).
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on October 03, 2016, 11:30:27 pm
Aspiring SE Crackpots should enter a Mandatory DIY Perm and enter DIYSE4339 in the additional info box. No other route info needed. I'll let you have a gpx track to follow, as ridden by previous crackpots (hopefully it matches the routesheet!).

Cheers! Is there a list of these DIY codes for other popular/known/previous calendar rides?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Manotea on October 03, 2016, 11:39:22 pm
Aspiring SE Crackpots should enter a Mandatory DIY Perm and enter DIYSE4339 in the additional info box. No other route info needed. I'll let you have a gpx track to follow, as ridden by previous crackpots (hopefully it matches the routesheet!).

Cheers! Is there a list of these DIY codes for other popular/known/previous calendar rides?

No... I've got a few as submitted by riders... I'd not be comfortable with publishing a list at this time, it raises all sorts of issues yet to be adddressed (ref this thread (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=99700.0))
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on October 04, 2016, 10:24:05 am
No... I've got a few as submitted by riders... I'd not be comfortable with publishing a list at this time, it raises all sorts of issues yet to be adddressed (ref this thread (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=99700.0))

Ah, audax controversy! :)

I meant for events that don't have calendar versions or routes that are familiar to people but don't have an event, say E2E or something.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on October 05, 2016, 08:56:47 pm
I have to say,  hats off to all who have done this without it being a perm and without it being a calendar event for some time...

H

 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 15, 2016, 10:51:27 pm
If anyone's interested, I finally wrote up my recent crackpot experience ...

https://adultmale.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/the-crackpot-part-3/

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 16, 2016, 12:46:26 am
Great write-up and a good time to get round in. At least as hard as the standard start I reckon, if not more so. It brought the memories flooding back- no pun intended. The emotions as much as the places. Nice one.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Whitedown Man on October 16, 2016, 05:04:42 am
Fantastic write-up  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 16, 2016, 03:52:36 pm
Thanks ! Writing about it brought it all back for me too.  I'll definitely ride it again sometime - but with mudguards ...  :facepalm:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: alfapete on October 16, 2016, 05:42:56 pm
If anyone's interested, I finally wrote up my recent crackpot experience ...

https://adultmale.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/the-crackpot-part-3/

Brilliant stuff, truly impressive. And the composition of the report is nearly as good as the feat of riding the event.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on October 16, 2016, 05:53:45 pm
If anyone's interested, I finally wrote up my recent crackpot experience ...

https://adultmale.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/the-crackpot-part-3/

Brilliant stuff, truly impressive. And the composition of the report is nearly as good as the feat of riding the event.

Not at all for me. It is an unfulfilled ambition of mine.

H
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Post by: Canardly on October 16, 2016, 07:58:29 pm
Wow.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 17, 2016, 07:44:49 pm
If anyone's interested, I finally wrote up my recent crackpot experience ...

https://adultmale.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/the-crackpot-part-3/

Brilliant stuff, truly impressive. And the composition of the report is nearly as good as the feat of riding the event.


Not at all for me. It is an unfulfilled ambition of mine.

H

Thanks Alfapete!

Hummers - a group perm has to happen! Got any good dates? Maybe discuss it at the reunion if you're there on the Friday night?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 17, 2016, 08:14:49 pm
Late May-2017?  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on October 17, 2016, 08:18:50 pm
If anyone's interested, I finally wrote up my recent crackpot experience ...

https://adultmale.wordpress.com/2016/10/12/the-crackpot-part-3/

Brilliant stuff, truly impressive. And the composition of the report is nearly as good as the feat of riding the event.


Not at all for me. It is an unfulfilled ambition of mine.

H

Thanks Alfapete!

Hummers - a group perm has to happen! Got any good dates? Maybe discuss it at the reunion if you're there on the Friday night?

Am up on the Saturday and will be able to hold a conversation at any time up until 9pm.  :thumbsup:

After that I am aiming for any meaningful intercourse to be at best difficult to recall and at best impossible to discern.  :demon:


Late May-2017?  :demon:

That would be a realistic target.



H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 17, 2016, 08:56:07 pm

Am up on the Saturday and will be able to hold a conversation at any time up until 9pm.  :thumbsup:

After that I am aiming for any meaningful intercourse to be at best difficult to recall and at best impossible to discern.  :demon:

Late May-2017?  :demon:

That would be a realistic target.

H

Isn't that Brimstone territory? Early to mid-June would be good for a Mille Pennines warm up ...  :facepalm:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on October 17, 2016, 09:24:54 pm
Has any Wessex aficionado noticed that Porkers 400 is Sunday 07 May, rather than the Bank Holiday weekend?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on October 17, 2016, 09:33:55 pm
Has any Wessex aficionado noticed that Porkers 400 is Sunday 07 May, rather than the Bank Holiday weekend?

Postie has and mentioned it last Saturday.

Not sure if this deliberate or not though.

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 17, 2016, 09:34:14 pm
Has any Wessex aficionado noticed that Porkers 400 is Sunday 07 May, rather than the Bank Holiday weekend?

Yup - watch this (& that) space.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 17, 2016, 09:34:22 pm
Brimstone 27th May. Personally can't do crackpot and mille pennines and LEL in short order but have thought about providing support for a group. Exmoor at night, Camp/mattresses/feeds at a couple of suitable locations. Would be good to avoid Postie's 300 10th June.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on October 17, 2016, 10:06:30 pm
Has any Wessex aficionado noticed that Porkers 400 is Sunday 07 May, rather than the Bank Holiday weekend?

Yup - watch this (& that) space.

Wheels are turning.  One way or another it's likely to move.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 18, 2016, 09:32:46 pm
The bridge between Shillingford and Child Okeford is now open again. It's cost us all some time. Only took a year, though a new cycle route was involved.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 20, 2016, 11:20:15 am
OK folks
Gadge & me will be attempting 01-Jun-2017 - 04-Jun-2017
Shawn has given us the go-ahead for a group perm if you'd like to join us?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: JonB on October 20, 2016, 11:34:43 am
OK folks
Gadge & me will be attempting 01-Jun-2017 - 04-Jun-2017
Shawn has given us the go-ahead for a group perm if you'd like to join us?

This really appeals (and it would be good to put team Mille Pennine back together :)) but my tentative plans for this year include the Wessex SR series and the Brimstone is only a few days before on the 27th May and that wouldn't work for me on a number of levels. I guess the only option would be to perm the Brimstone but having read all the reports I'd favour doing that as a calendar ride. Hmmm ...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 20, 2016, 12:27:27 pm
OK folks
Gadge & me will be attempting 01-Jun-2017 - 04-Jun-2017
Shawn has given us the go-ahead for a group perm if you'd like to join us?

Tempting - although there's a half-term hols conflict for me by the looks of it ...

Do my family really need me to be there I wonder .... ? 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on October 20, 2016, 08:25:04 pm
... if you'd like to join us?

It's in the diary!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Bianchi Boy on October 20, 2016, 08:54:28 pm
... if you'd like to join us?

It's in the diary!
I am on holiday with my wife. Can I change the dates of the Hay Festival?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 20, 2016, 09:06:45 pm
OK Folks
Strong interest so far!

Role call...

Jonah
Gadge
AndyP
Bruce
Ivan
Omar
Hummers (pending authorisation)
Joolz
J.J.Dennis
Sharpie
Anthony 'Bambi' Powis
Marcus JB

I'm working on a short stop at Copse House Cider to see Bob and a Mummy & Daddy Jonah operated control somewhere in the Dahr'zet Bush...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 20, 2016, 09:11:58 pm
Definite mebbie. I'd offered support above though if it's this far ahead of M. Pennines I'm hopeful of riding. As a local yokel can probably still help with some support as well.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 20, 2016, 09:44:42 pm
Wow Jonah - looks like this is actually going to happen ! Well done.

If I can't ride it for family reasons, I'd definitely be up for helping organise a control somewhere. Bristol/Bath area maybe ?

How are you planning to ride this by the way - euraudax style or every man for himself ?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 20, 2016, 09:45:49 pm
Stick your name down Smetho - would be good to 'ave some local konowledge...  ;)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 20, 2016, 09:50:46 pm
Wow Jonah - looks like this is actually going to happen ! Well done.

If I can't ride it for family reasons, I'd definitely be up for helping organise a control somewhere. Bristol/Bath area maybe ?

How are you planning to ride this by the way - euraudax style or every man for himself ?

Thanks Matey!
I reckon we could all start together and get round in the time given - in my experience there's never much time left at the end so we're bound too bump into each other and fall asleep next too next each other and hallucinate near someone else that looks like a crow-bush monster that leaps out from the twighlight

If we had some defo controls this would also encourage a more Group(ie feel)-Diy (perhaps this could be a new kind of ride?)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 20, 2016, 09:58:31 pm
Bob said "Paaahup inn negzt toime yer pahssi 'n' say ellow"
He lives (and works very well) at New Barn Yard Sandley, Gillingham SP8 5DZ but I can't remember which leg that as on?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: inappropriate_bike on October 21, 2016, 04:49:44 am
I'm very tempted but haven't done anything longer a (solo) hilly 500.

Would I be setting myself up for failure?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Mr Reynholm on October 21, 2016, 08:07:54 am
Count me in too please. I'm becoming slightly obsessed with this ride, I have to give it a go.
Think my partner would be happy to stamp cards as Halstock control if that helps at all  ???

Alex  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 21, 2016, 09:24:42 am
I'm becoming slightly obsessed with this ride, I have to give it a go.

It's like an infectious disease !

I'd recommend riding it as the cure.  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 21, 2016, 10:41:32 am
Has any Wessex aficionado noticed that Porkers 400 is Sunday 07 May, rather than the Bank Holiday weekend?

Yup - watch this (& that) space.

Just noticed Porkers is now on the 29th April at 1400 - but as a BR.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Pichy on October 21, 2016, 02:19:17 pm
I've enjoyed following this thread over the last year or so and, like others, have been inspired to add this to my 'must do' list. Now there is chat of a group perm and I'm getting very excited! Only trouble is that I need to get down from Edinburgh first and the dates don't quite work for me, as I have to be back home early on Sunday June 4th. I know it's still a long way out but for those who are driving the organisation of a group bash, have you any thoughts about when you might start on the Thursday? If I could negotiate things with Shaun I could fly to Bristol and, following GPS's lead, start at Keynsham and hopefully approach Poole as you are all setting out. It would be nice to think that there are others out there on the road suffering at the same time as me, even if we don't spend that long in each other's company.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on October 21, 2016, 03:05:45 pm
Bob said "Paaahup inn negzt toime yer pahssi 'n' say ellow"
He lives (and works very well) at New Barn Yard Sandley, Gillingham SP8 5DZ but I can't remember which leg that as on?

 :thumbsup:

That's about 670k in, bang on the route just after Zeals on the way down to Dorchester, should be sometime around early evening on Day 3

Memories of our ride-ending late night visit to the Fox in Corscombe weigh heavy on my mind though ...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ivan on October 21, 2016, 05:34:33 pm
Memories of our ride-ending late night visit to the Fox in Corscombe weigh heavy on my mind though ...

As long as there is a dirty laundry bin full of napkins to cover yourself in, you'll be fine.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 21, 2016, 05:40:47 pm
Thought about setting up a weatherproof group bivvy somewhere for the last nap/feed. Night 3. Bulbarrow to Codford area or similar. Or is this against the spirit of hedge snorkling!? If I ride it would have to be diy, I.e. help self to stash of food/ drink/ spares. Crash on provided mats etc., maybe all my sleeping bags laid out. Might be possible for night 2 also. For me night 1 would be ride-through.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 21, 2016, 06:12:34 pm
Bob said "Paaahup inn negzt toime yer pahssi 'n' say ellow"
He lives (and works very well) at New Barn Yard Sandley, Gillingham SP8 5DZ but I can't remember which leg that as on?

 :thumbsup:

That's about 670k in, bang on the route just after Zeals on the way down to Dorchester, should be sometime around early evening on Day 3

Memories of our ride-ending late night visit to the Fox in Corscombe weigh heavy on my mind though ...

A crisp pint of Landshire medium three quarters of the way around one of the biggest ball-busting rides this side of Nagasaki never did I any 'arm
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 21, 2016, 07:20:05 pm
http://www.copsehousecider.co.uk/home/
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 21, 2016, 07:27:12 pm
I've enjoyed following this thread over the last year or so and, like others, have been inspired to add this to my 'must do' list. Now there is chat of a group perm and I'm getting very excited! Only trouble is that I need to get down from Edinburgh first and the dates don't quite work for me, as I have to be back home early on Sunday June 4th. I know it's still a long way out but for those who are driving the organisation of a group bash, have you any thoughts about when you might start on the Thursday? If I could negotiate things with Shaun I could fly to Bristol and, following GPS's lead, start at Keynsham and hopefully approach Poole as you are all setting out. It would be nice to think that there are others out there on the road suffering at the same time as me, even if we don't spend that long in each other's company.

What time would suit you sir?  (I have started at mid day before and the trad time is after work - eight I think?)
Ride through the first night for defo
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Pichy on October 21, 2016, 07:42:59 pm
First flight out of Edinburgh is into Brizzle at 0930. Dump bike box at left luggage and tootle over to Keynsham for an 1130 start. Would therefore hope to be making landfall (i.e. Poole) by about the same time on Thursday. As long as I thought I was ahead of the field clearing Poole then it would be nice to have people saying, "Hello," as they overtook me. If I could limp round by lunchtime on the Saturday I'd then spend the rest of the day licking my wounds in The Star in Bath. Kip down with a pal who lives opposite and be back at the airport for the first flight to Edinburgh on the Sunday. Obviously this makes it all sound horribly straightforward. I know it won't be but have to maintain a PMA.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 21, 2016, 08:09:13 pm
First flight out of Edinburgh is into Brizzle at 0930. Dump bike box at left luggage and tootle over to Keynsham for an 1130 start. Would therefore hope to be making landfall (i.e. Poole) by about the same time on Thursday. As long as I thought I was ahead of the field clearing Poole then it would be nice to have people saying, "Hello," as they overtook me. If I could limp round by lunchtime on the Saturday I'd then spend the rest of the day licking my wounds in The Star in Bath. Kip down with a pal who lives opposite and be back at the airport for the first flight to Edinburgh on the Sunday. Obviously this makes it all sound horribly straightforward. I know it won't be but have to maintain a PMA.

WHOA!  Start at 12:00 then, or 11:30?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on October 21, 2016, 10:59:08 pm
As long as there is a dirty laundry bin full of napkins to cover yourself in, you'll be fine.
True story
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on October 22, 2016, 09:22:34 pm
I'm very tempted but haven't done anything longer a (solo) hilly 500.

Would I be setting myself up for failure?

I haven't done the Crackpot, but i'm pretty sure that the answer to your question is not necessarily at all: if your hilly 500 was comparable (i.e. steep), you had a short sleep in the night, finished in reasonable shape with an hour or two in hand, and could've got back on the bike after that couple of hours if you'd had to ...and can do as much or more prep than you did for that before june then it's definitely possible.

...jumping straight to a perm Crackpot, skipping the calendar WSR stepping stone would be a bold move, but by no means impossible.

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on October 27, 2016, 02:56:37 pm
I have pencilled the date in. I think it depends on another adventure (LE JoG on a motorbike & sidecar) and my fitness in 2017. 2016 has been the worst year of cycling in over 10 years.

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 28, 2016, 09:20:15 pm
We reconfirmed intentions and thrashed out some plans in between pints at last night's ACH LTotM drinkies.  It's gonnah be MEGA.

Bring on the hallucinations  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on October 28, 2016, 09:29:31 pm
Let's get our swedes together and try and operate as many of the more remote/out-of-hours controls as possible - Bovey Tracey springs to mind as well as Wells
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 28, 2016, 10:32:47 pm
Vis a vis what's out of hours, is there a firmer preferred start time? I know what comes roughly when if starting at 8pm but there are other suggestions I note. I'm thinking of providing at least 1 sleep stop if useful. Using my caravan and awning. Dry sleeps under cover for quite a few at a time and grub. For me critical moments were the early hours on Exmoor, a kip somewhere on the Axminser to Wells stretch and again somewhere Codford- ish. Bovey shops were open by the time I got there. Everyone's different and ill go with the flow. The support offer is there whether i ride ir not. Need to keep the legend going.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 29, 2016, 01:21:05 pm
An 8 p.m. start time at Longfleet means less traffic on the A35 to Bere Regis and also gives you a chance to get to Axminster at a reasonable time the next night. Just saying ...

Dunno whether I can ride or help at the mo, but I'm working on it ...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Audax Club Hackney on February 12, 2017, 03:55:34 pm
OK Folks
Straw poll consensus for the ride timmings appear to be Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick off with a finish in Hell at around the same time 3-days later.

Jonah has The CrAcKpOt registered as a DIY with Paul Stewart so just ask for the DIY number when purchasing your DIY Brevets.

Then stop and pause for a while as you contemplate the challenge of dragging your sorry bike and arse around one of the meanest and most beautiful rides this side of Nagasaki.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on February 12, 2017, 05:14:02 pm
The support offer is there whether i ride it not. Need to keep the legend going.

Chatted to an ACH on the Poor Student - he said you had a bakers dozen up for it at that time :thumbsup: The offer quoted from above is still there. A brew and feed here and there and maybe a bivvy station or two. I'm not going to ride having done it last year. Saving dodgy knees for Mille P, LEL and various other daft things but free on your dates. You may well prefer the full "b***bustin" falling asleep while tying your shoelaces, hedge-monster experience, of which I heartily approve. No offence either way and if you don't mind I may stalk your progress and do a few miles with you. (No drafting for you naturally ;D)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on February 14, 2017, 02:14:28 pm
Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick off

Riding over Exmoor overnight - hard core ! Minehead to Bovey in the dark will be something else.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on February 14, 2017, 02:55:52 pm
Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick off

Riding over Exmoor overnight - hard core ! Minehead to Bovey in the dark will be something else.

It's best just as the sky lightens. Though with a full moon, a night traverse might be wonderful.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on February 15, 2017, 04:11:08 pm

Chatted to an ACH on the Poor Student - he said you had a bakers dozen up for it at that time :thumbsup: The offer quoted from above is still there. A brew and feed here and there and maybe a bivvy station or two. I'm not going to ride having done it last year. Saving dodgy knees for Mille P, LEL and various other daft things but free on your dates. You may well prefer the full "b***bustin" falling asleep while tying your shoelaces, hedge-monster experience, of which I heartily approve. No offence either way and if you don't mind I may stalk your progress and do a few miles with you. (No drafting for you naturally ;D)
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This is an awesome offer, thank you! ...I've got the dates in my diary too, and am planning to give it a go. Controlling at home, and then setting off to ride to Newbury and back to Poole is going to be a test of character!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on February 15, 2017, 08:12:32 pm
OK Folks
Straw poll consensus for the ride timmings appear to be Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick off with a finish in Hell at around the same time 3-days later.

Hmmmm.... Tempting... Brimstone as a warm-up the Sunday before?!!!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on February 15, 2017, 09:57:58 pm
Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick off

Riding over Exmoor overnight - hard core ! Minehead to Bovey in the dark will be something else.

It's best just as the sky lightens. Though with a full moon, a night traverse might be wonderful.

I did this very traverse last year - the moon was so bright I switched my dynamo off - for an hour!  Highlight of the ride!  However, the year before was a completely different story because of the driving wind and rain - it was never cold though.

 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Audax Club Hackney on February 15, 2017, 10:02:57 pm
Thanks for the offer of support Smeth!  Jonah has advised that his mother and father have also offered to opertae a control from their caravn - they're looking at Kine Bush Farm - Home Of Copse House Cider at c. 750K for Dorset bred hot sausage rolls and Copse House Cider whic is pressed in said farm. 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on February 15, 2017, 10:57:15 pm
Thanks for the offer of support Smeth!  Jonah has advised that his mother and father have also offered to opertae a control from their caravan - they're looking at Kine Bush Farm - Home Of Copse House Cider at c. 750K for Dorset bred hot sausage rolls and Copse House Cider whic is pressed in said farm.

That'll be before the last big push I guess. It's probably early planning stage and for all I know you might have suites at the Plaza booked but let me know at some point of a stretch where an earlier stop might be handy. I'd suggest making it a night stop if no Plaza. Don't worry about exactly where unless you already have info. Just give me a stretch of the route and I'll recce and come up with a suggestion or two.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on February 15, 2017, 11:39:09 pm
My mate has had his heart bypass and is making good progress so my attendance on this weekend is going to be put on hold until another time.

All the best mes amis.

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on February 16, 2017, 09:26:15 am
This is shaping up to be quite an event ...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on February 16, 2017, 10:14:44 am
Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick off
Riding over Exmoor overnight - hard core !

That would make a real ball-buster of a first day and a half. Bovey tracey would definitely be out of hours (c.3am?) I guess we would be looking to get somewhere between Wells and Thornbury (as the route passes between bristol and bath), c.550km, before stopping on the Friday night ... ouch ...

Copse house (at 664km, by my reckoning?) would be 11/12 ish on the Saturday morning

Second night stop would be around Membury (870km)

I'm tired just thinking about it!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on February 16, 2017, 10:18:23 am
Copse house (at 666km, by my reckoning?)

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/14907892
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on February 16, 2017, 11:20:52 am
Thursday 01-Jun-2017 13:00 kick off
Riding over Exmoor overnight - hard core !

That would make a real ball-buster of a first day and a half. Bovey tracey would definitely be out of hours (c.3am?) I guess we would be looking to get somewhere between Wells and Thornbury (as the route passes between bristol and bath), c.550km, before stopping on the Friday night ... ouch ...

Copse house (at 664km, by my reckoning?) would be 11/12 ish on the Saturday morning

Second night stop would be around Membury (870km)

I'm tired just thinking about it!

Let me know whenever but it looks like a Devon night feed/hot drink might be useful plus a sleep beyond Wells.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on February 18, 2017, 09:26:53 pm
Anyone good with calculating control opening and closing times.  If we get this in the bag we can plan to cover the stops where there is nothing about.  Bovey Tracey was shut on both my previous cracks as started at midday.   It was also too early to wait for the shops to open so air reckon thus would be a welcome breakfast boost after riding through the first night.  I also stopped in Wells as well as a cat nap in Membury which was obviously cool because of the service station.  Naff all open in which
Wells though so this would be another prime control zone for a sleeping bag or two.  Then it's off into the misty morning for some powerfully hallucinations before sunrise.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on February 18, 2017, 09:31:49 pm
My mate has had his heart bypass and is making good progress so my attendance on this weekend is going to be put on hold until another time.

All the best mes amis.

H
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This us most unfortunate H
I hope your mates Alright
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on February 18, 2017, 09:46:28 pm
Jonah.. pm on the way.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on February 19, 2017, 11:12:14 am
My mate has had his heart bypass and is making good progress so my attendance on this weekend is going to be put on hold until another time.

All the best mes amis.

H
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This us most unfortunate H
I hope your mates Alright

He had open heart surgery with the added bonus of an unplanned stay in hospital over Christmas. In addition,  he has an interesting large vagina shaped wound on his shin where they whipped some blood vessels out to by pass the buggered ones around his heart. Two months on and it still hasn't healed however he is still keen to do LEJoG with me on a motorbike and sidecar which clashes with the planned Crackpot date.

The only consolation was that had he attended night 4 of our pre-Christmas bender he probably would have died and knowing my chums, nobody would have realised until it was his round.

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Yatesee on March 04, 2017, 09:51:19 am
Anyone good with calculating control opening and closing times.  If we get this in the bag we can plan to cover the stops where there is nothing about... 

I've had a go at calculating control times with a start in Poole at 13:00 on 25/5/17. It's based on minimum speed of 13 1/3 km/h (max. speed 30 km/h) and using the distances given on the route sheet. Comments (and checking!) welcome.

ControlDistance (km)OpensCloses
1Poole025/05/2017 13:00
2Halstock6525/05/2017 15:1025/05/2017 17:52
3Minehead15725/05/2017 18:1426/05/2017 00:46
4Bovey Tracey25125/05/2017 21:2226/05/2017 07:49
5Culmstock30825/05/2017 23:1626/05/2017 12:06
6Sedgemoor37226/05/2017 01:2426/05/2017 16:54
7Axminster44126/05/2017 03:4226/05/2017 22:04
8Tor Hole52326/05/2017 06:2627/05/2017 04:13
9Thornbury57826/05/2017 08:1627/05/2017 08:21
10Zeals66326/05/2017 11:0627/05/2017 14:43
11West Stafford71926/05/2017 12:5827/05/2017 18:55
12Codford80026/05/2017 15:4028/05/2017 01:00
13Membury87026/05/2017 18:0028/05/2017 06:15
14Ower94326/05/2017 20:2628/05/2017 11:43
15Poole100026/05/2017 22:2028/05/2017 16:00

Happy to amend for a different start time.

And probably don't need to give the control opening times ;)


Andy
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on April 11, 2017, 04:32:35 pm
Jonah and I have been conferring about start times and reckon the traditional 8pm is best:
— Early daylight over Exmoor
— More evenly spaced night stops
— Copse house cider bonus control at 6pm rather than 11am

Are we in agreement for a Thursday 1 June start?

Provisional timetable below (controls from the old route, not necessarily where we stop):

(http://i64.tinypic.com/2mzzf6d.jpg)

Possible first overnight at Ilminster travelodge, second night bivvy/nap and/or Smeth's kind hospitality?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on April 11, 2017, 06:55:06 pm
Cheers Anthony
I have the time (and the enthusiasm for this legend) to do a couple of sleep stops and take a bag drop at Poole if you like, not to mention a brew/water stop at Minehead/on Exmoor. I just needed the schedule to know where to look.

Feel free to do your thing - no offence taken - not planning on being a wierdo ACH groupie!

I would be thinking somewhere Axminster unless you want earlier, then on the way to Codford somewhere. I need the flexibility to look some distance either side of perfection.

Think caravan + big awning or I have copious tentage. Several sizeable ones. Minimum of mattresses (air or thermarest) and sleeping bag. Grub and drinks obviously.

I don't want to over-promise as I haven't been certain of locations until now so although I've thought about it I need a short while to come up with something firmer, and we have an Arrow team for Friday.  You can decide what you want to take up or otherwise.

Suggest we take this onto pm unless you want to keep an open channel to discussion to riders?

Smeth

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on April 11, 2017, 09:44:50 pm
Flying control at multiple points on the route would be amazing, Smeth

(assume this is within the regs, so long as control points are set?)

Have just realised this is no longer 'far in the distance' but in fact a mere 7 weeks away. Terror ...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on April 11, 2017, 10:11:34 pm
Support on the ride is allowed as long as it's available equally to all riders which it will be.  I have some ideas so I hope I can pull it off. I'll do a bit pre-Arrow but anything firm will be another week after that I expect.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on April 13, 2017, 03:42:31 pm
Best wishes to all the intrepid riders considering this!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on April 13, 2017, 05:01:11 pm
Looks like I can get a couple of little village halls for sleeps-feeds. Hope that encourages folks.  ;D
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on April 17, 2017, 09:55:17 am
*ROLL CALL*

We reconfirmed intentions over breakfast beers in York on Saturday, and would like to firm up a list of adventurers for this group perm ... who is still interested?

Start at 8pm, Thursday 1 June, Poole (Longfleet Road Garage)

The following will likely be available as support:

Costs to be shared amongst riders, but likely in the region of £30-40 for two nights stops + food, depending on numbers. Possible collection of bags and sleeping gear at the start in Poole.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: akin on April 17, 2017, 10:36:31 am
Count me in.

Despite being out of shape currently I am pretty much fully committed, I have the dates booked off work already and a loose plan to ride into some semblance of fitness before 1st June.

Thanks for everyone pulling this together and to Smeth for the very kind offer of support.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on April 17, 2017, 11:44:11 am
I like an adventure so please add my name to the list. The kind offers of support should make the ride just a bit more manageable. Coming just a few days after the Brimstone this is a GOOD THING!

I trust there will still be an option of sleeping on a cardboard box in an alleyway in Wells as pioneered by Jonah. On the other hand I hope it won't be necessary ;D

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: jahs on April 17, 2017, 04:27:27 pm
Sounds like fun. I'm in.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on April 17, 2017, 06:23:46 pm
Seventeen years since the last 'Calendar' event back in '2000
... Seems like a good time to 'do it again'!!

Like Swiss Hat, I do like a challenge, so only four days after Brimmie will make this the Ultimate Wessex SR Series this year!

You might even get your hands on one of these:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3936/33714010870_88520686e1_z.jpg)

Yeah, please count me in for sure (barring changing jobs, etc..)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on April 18, 2017, 07:00:27 am
Thanks Anthony for the prompt email.

I'm out. I've hardly ridden 1000km all year, so no chance of getting around this.  Besides, I have an appointment with one Richard D. James on the Saturday.

Ride strong one and all. 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on April 18, 2017, 09:46:46 am
Yes!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on April 18, 2017, 06:57:46 pm
A massive thank you to Lord Smeth and Anthony 'Bambi' Powis!   :thumbsup:

Great to discuss with you guys on 'thee Arrah' the ova day an-aul.  I really must say that Ant's schedule and Smeth's comprehensive support package must render this ride as more do-able for those riders who didn't fancy the cardboard-city approach. 

I'm personally stoked by the Esprit de Corps attitude of all that have shown an interest in this ride and persoanlly find this sort of venture just as exiting (if nt more) as an organsied ride.  It's this sort of ingenuity and camaradery that grips me to Audax like shit to a pussers blanket.  I've been off the bike for a while for and Hardboiled and the Arrow hit me hard but be sure that I'm gonnah attack this beautufull levithan of a roller coaster with all the respect and determination that she deserves.

Come on folks - lets get as many names down as possible to help make this Group DIY a rip-roaring classic assulat on you mind, your body and your soul.

Meticulous planning and support
Fully supported controls  with food and sleep
Copse House Cider stright from the press
Kudos like no other at Arrivee

Juat as for the pre registered DSYE number from Paul Stewert and pay your DIY fee and we'll see you at the home of Wessex Audax and the catalyst for the best Boys-Own adbenture this side of Nagasaki1

Bring it on  :)

Jonah X


Copse House
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on April 18, 2017, 09:16:03 pm
My house is in Dorchester (DT12DG), is a 2km detour, so anyone who wants to stop in for a shower/sleep/warm up/cool down/bite to eat is welcome...

With the route towards the control at West Stafford – on this map: https://goo.gl/maps/eRKGejy9K8p (https://goo.gl/maps/eRKGejy9K8p) – I understand that the middle route was the original Crackpot route (but that's a busy, fast road, that local riders seldom use... no doubt selected because it's got the most - and steepest - climbing), but that recent riders have been taking the Piddle Valley (to the right on screen). However the Cerne Valley is a nicer road*, and gives the option of an easy detour into town... I reckon that's the way I'll be going ;-)

andrew.
* and you see the Cerne giant's massive willy https://goo.gl/images/QGPK6G (https://goo.gl/images/QGPK6G)!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on April 18, 2017, 09:34:58 pm
I used the Piddle Valley because its on the 2000 route sheet. I think it's the most rural road, also dropping East of Dorch. The last night sleep is shortly to be confirmed - probably choosing Okeford Fitzpaine from two options - about 35k past Dorch. No showers -  just loos, mattresses/bags/food.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on April 18, 2017, 09:40:31 pm
Thinking about it -- I can hang fire on that stop - if AndyP's is an alternative - but I don't want to offload the field onto your household when you may not be there a lot of the time?? I'm kind of geared up for it but don't mind at all.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on April 18, 2017, 09:57:01 pm
I used the Piddle Valley because its on the 2000 route sheet. I think it's the most rural road, also dropping East of Dorch.

Ah, ok, so it's not a deviation... it probably has to be done then ;-). But the A352 is equally rural, and because all the Sherborne road traffic bats over the top road, has less traffic than the Piddle Valley road which is a short cut for lots of cross country routes.

Ah, you've beaten me to the post! ... was going to say Okeford Fitzpane village hall sounds perfect for food/nap/regroup – thanks! ;-) ..it would be better than my house because it's on the route and deviating through dorchester will add a bit of time and complexity that scooting out to West Stafford avoids... what do you think?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Mr Reynholm on April 24, 2017, 08:17:34 am
I'm in. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH.

Virtual brevet purchased. Diy form submitted.


Alex
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on April 24, 2017, 10:59:47 pm
GET IN!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on April 24, 2017, 11:01:40 pm
Hello Folks
Can we have an officila role call thus far?  Lord Smeth and Co. would find it awfully usefull...

(just add your name to the list)

Jonah
Anthony
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on April 25, 2017, 08:15:59 am
Let me add all those already signed up on here and elsewhere:


room for more :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on April 25, 2017, 12:39:47 pm
The window of opportunity appears to have opened, so I'm jumping through it ... along with 2 others from ACB.

We're 99% certain  :thumbsup:

So:

11. GPS
12. Telbert J
13. Will P
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: vorsprung on April 25, 2017, 09:09:37 pm
I am strangely attracted to this idea

If (as is likely) I manage to not enter, please PM me for phone details.  I live very near Culmstock, can provide food etc if asked ahead of time
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: vorsprung on April 26, 2017, 09:29:55 am
thankfully I am on call this weekend so there is no chance that madness will prevail and force me to do something I would regret

the offer of a safe harbour remains however
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on April 28, 2017, 03:40:10 pm
Good that we have a baker's dozen, this is plenty to get on with the organising, whilst there is still room for more.  I suggest that we ask for a firm commitment and $$$ around two weeks in advance i.e mid-May. OK?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 19, 2017, 11:09:41 pm
OK Folks 'C' Day is fast approachin'
Please can we have a definitive roll-call for Smeth OTP who as you will have read, has very kindly offered to prepare the victuals.

I will start with my name as the poster of thus post....

Please be hasty in your reply as prepping ain't gonna be easy for Smeth

PS Hope all cool with a traditional Queen Mary pub start and finnish

Jonah

Crackpot Group DIY entry list
1.  Jonah
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on May 19, 2017, 11:10:37 pm
Good luck, everyone.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on May 20, 2017, 11:17:11 am

Crackpot Group DIY entry list
1.  Jonah
2. swiss hat
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Bianchi Boy on May 20, 2017, 05:46:49 pm

Crackpot Group DIY entry list
1.  Jonah
2. swiss hat

Ah a small exclusive group ridding fixed.
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

BB
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on May 20, 2017, 08:48:11 pm
Could someone explain simply what this Crackpot thing is? I can't find any calendar or perm event of that name and though someone did provide a url at some point in the recent past, it just told me I was not allowed to access that page.  ::-)  So, beyond being a ridiculously mad ride, what is it? Where from, where to, when, how far, etc etc?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on May 20, 2017, 09:11:34 pm
Ok, I have been enlightened; or at least informed!  :o :o :o
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hellymedic on May 21, 2017, 01:24:12 am
Around twenty years ago, Shawn & I were both working at Poole Hospital, when he gave me the prospectus for this little jaunt. There was some superb writing in this yellow-jacketed pamphlet.
Sounded very scary...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 21, 2017, 09:58:15 pm
hi,
I'm still up for giving it a go, and am happy to share the costs of support ...although I've been away since the Porkers and have hardly done anything, so if there's anyone else in two minds and thinking they'll be bouncing off the back of the time limit, you won't be alone. My plan is to start steady, and try to get the odd nap while trying to hang on to an hour or so in hand. Really looking forward to seeing some new bits of Wessex.

Crackpot Group DIY entry list
1.  Jonah
2. swiss hat
3. Andy P



Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Mr Reynholm on May 21, 2017, 10:10:46 pm
What's the worst that could happen. Worth a crack. I'll be happy with anything over 600k still in time.

Crackpot Group DIY entry list
1.  Jonah
2. swiss hat
3. Andy P
4. Mr Reynholm
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 21, 2017, 10:37:34 pm
 :demon:4
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on May 22, 2017, 08:48:54 am
I'm out due to work  >:(

I'll chip in on costs though (well, I previously said I'd do it, and I'm treating it like DNSing a calendar event).
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on May 22, 2017, 10:20:39 am
1. Jonah
2. swiss hat
3. Andy P
4. Mr Reynholm
5. Anthony
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on May 23, 2017, 07:47:49 pm
I'm out due to work  >:(

I'll chip in on costs though (well, I previously said I'd do it, and I'm treating it like DNSing a calendar event).

Sorry to hear this Mate!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: akin on May 23, 2017, 08:40:03 pm
1. Jonah
2. swiss hat
3. Andy P
4. Mr Reynholm
5. Anthony
6. akin

My steady build up went well up until the end of Porkers, it just didn't go any further. Im sure 75 hours of Wessex delights will address my current lack of conditioning.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Hummers on May 23, 2017, 08:46:02 pm
As the day approacheth, I am excited as well as saddened that I will not be with you.

Have a great ride my friends but having only attempted the Hardboiled (and packed at 210k) I know that those contemplating this event are in a different league to where I am at the moment.

Keep us all posted on your journey awheel.

H
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 23, 2017, 08:52:05 pm
My steady build up went well up until the end of Porkers, it just didn't go any further. Im sure 75 hours of Wessex delights will address my current lack of conditioning.

That's two of us then!

...I'm of a mind to keep going to the finish (if I can), even if it's obvious I'm going to be out of time.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on May 24, 2017, 10:49:23 am
...I'm of a mind to keep going to the finish (if I can), even if it's obvious I'm going to be out of time.

This seems like a sensible approach
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 24, 2017, 11:11:51 am
There's a pile of bedding in the spare room. The food order is being done. Another feed likelihood has emerged on Friday by generous offer. More later. Full details early next week when I've woken up after Brimstone.

Looking well supported now. Space for more on this feast of Wessex gorgeousness. Riders please reconfirm as requested above if you haven't already. 😊😊
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Altitude Accumulator on May 24, 2017, 04:11:03 pm
Audax Towers will be open to this Crackpot crew at TA6 3UL number 8 so you won't have to endure motorway services at Sedgemoor Services just my better half wonderful cakes. Any special requests or orders please message me at audaxrider@gmail.com. Smeth will be co ordinating final details with you of my whereabouts etc . I will be available for emergencies too in close proximity.

Look forward to seeing my ACH Audax fellowship on the day
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 24, 2017, 06:02:32 pm
AA and I have been chattin. That's the other feed mentioned above sorted. Its all working out swimmingly! Home made cake? I wonder if I'll get time to make an appearance.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on May 24, 2017, 09:49:41 pm
1. Jonah
2. swiss hat
3. Andy P
4. Mr Reynholm
5. Anthony
6. akin
7. James Wyatt (ACH)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on May 24, 2017, 09:59:34 pm
1. Jonah
2. swiss hat
3. Andy P
4. Mr Reynholm
5. Anthony
6. akin
7. James Wyatt (ACH)
8. veloboy

Apologies for the late reply and appearance here. Been having some issues with my lower back; hopefully now sorted :-)
We'll see how things go this weekend on the Brimmy - In any case, I'll pay my share whatever the outcome!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Joolz on May 26, 2017, 05:48:46 am
Sorry, folks not in.  Haven't got the fitness as last year and I have family stuff to do.

Perhaps, next year I have the hilly fitness back

Have a great uneventful ride.

Enjoy sleeping in a cardboard box in Well Martin 😉🚴🍻
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 26, 2017, 09:47:10 pm
Just before I go for my pre-Brimstone beauty sleep...

CrAcKpOt SUPPORT DETAILS

RIDERS AND POTENTIAL RIDERS PLEASE READ LINKED DOC BELOW FOR INFO.

https://wordpress.com/post/smethblog.wordpress.com/82

PM me for my contacts and let me have yours if you like. The same would be useful to Altitude Accumulator above for  the same reasons. There won't be a quick reply due to Brimmers but I will respond.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on May 27, 2017, 10:07:36 am
Hi Smeth,

I get an "Invalid Post Address" message even after logging on to wordpress. All will be sorted after the Brimstone I'm sure.

Thanks for your work in making this happen.

SH
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 28, 2017, 06:34:05 am
Yup. Just leaving Prissy. Will sort
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: johny bath on May 29, 2017, 01:10:08 pm
Dear All

There is a slim outside chance I could get a chance to ride this  - by lucky chance the stars are aligning in a manner i had nor foreseen. I do not know if I have enough credits on the homefront yet to cash in but are you still open to any more riders? This looks like quite a ride so would not want to miss

All the best
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on May 29, 2017, 01:29:00 pm
Bike maintenance completed including:

New tyres
New full set of brake pads
New chain and cassette
New rear gear cable (original found to have a few broken strands at lever end)

It's well worth checking that your bike is CrAcKpOt ready.

I now just need to make sure that the rider is CrAcKpOt ready as well.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 29, 2017, 01:54:13 pm
Indeed. A fairly dry Brimstone just polished off a set of pads stretched a chain and took the last bit of life out of a rim. I'll redo the info sheet in a minute. Thanks SH for pointing out the dodgy link.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 29, 2017, 02:00:27 pm
Dear All

There is a slim outside chance I could get a chance to ride this  - by lucky chance the stars are aligning in a manner i had nor foreseen. I do not know if I have enough credits on the homefront yet to cash in but are you still open to any more riders? This looks like quite a ride so would not want to miss

All the best
Absoflippinlutely yes. Very welcome. I'm basically the catering/housekeeping so let us know here either way and pm Anthony who has everything at his fingertips or me for any info you need.

Same applies to anyone else who might enjoy it.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 29, 2017, 02:35:19 pm

Dear riders,

I tried to post this as a link to save the whole forum being bothered with it but it's failed so here is the info. Anything I've missed please say:


This support started with the intention of being "bivvy +++" but in the end it was actually easier and less hassle to do a proper job. We're out in lovely Wessex for the duration so we hope this helps you enjoy it. Still room for more so anyone out there stick your hand up.

See seperate post for cost.

The following support will be provided.

Anthony has done the schedule showing where the feeds and sleeps are and roughly when you might be there.

DROP BAGS

I will be at the Queen Mary pub in Poole at start/finish to take drop bags and return them. They will be available on Dunkery Beacon and the two sleep controls. I will exchange contacts at or before the start so if anything unexpected happens I can re-unite you with your bag.

EMERGENCY SPARES AND REPAIR

I will have my tools and spares in the car throughout the event in case of dire straits and at controls. I'll have tubes, my collection of usable part worn tyres, cables, and the like. The bike rack will be on the roof for those dire straits. Remember I could be 100k away visiting the Lions of Longleat or more likely in a coma. No problem but could be slow.

Catering wise we will provide all that you'd expect at a calendar control.

DUNKERY BEACON BREAKFAST

This is a car boot stop with Gazebo and chairs if I don't get blown away. Hot drinks, Juice, Bottle fills, bakery, bananas, other fruit, flapjack maybe porridge and honey. Enough for breakfast and to stuff your pockets full for the moors.

If there is a real gale the backup is the same but using sheltered seating down on Minehead prom.

SLEEP STOPS - BLACKDOWN AND OAKFORD FITZPAINE VILLAGE HALLS

Motley but useable collection of air beds or decent foam pads and Thermarests, Large pile of sleeping bags, quilts and blankets and pillows or cushions. (Luxury - said in a Yorkshire accent) Plenty to go round.

Hot supper. Hot and cold breakfast. Usual bakery, fruit, rice pud, variety of stuff for DIY meal if you don't like pasta etc. and for making sandwiches. Food bags available to fill pockets and saddlebags for the road.

N.B.  Supper dishes - First sleep probably meat or veggie pasta. Second meat or veggie chilli with spud or couscous.

BRIDGEWATER FEED STOP.

Feed at Jon's house - see his YACF post. So much better than the ghastly Sedgemoor services. That's probably teatime on Friday. Jon will also have his phone on and can fix a bike or help if he can.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 29, 2017, 03:12:14 pm
COST FOR CRACKPOT SUPPORT (Sorry other forum users)

We are small numbers and hall hire totals £115 for the two sleeps. Plus 5 feeds and food for the road it's working out at £35 per head. Please bring this to the start or pm me for bank details if you want to get it our of the way. I haven't spoken to Altitude Accumulator (Jon) about his feed at Bridgewater so I'll leave that between you and him.

CONTACT DETAILS/BAG DROPS

Could you all PM me your contact details, particularly mobile no. for comms and you'll get mine back. We could do it at the Queen Mary but it's faff for you. Regarding drop bags if something unexpected happens don't worry, there's always a way to get stuff back to you.

TIME WINDOWS

We can't keep the halls open for the full calendar 1000k window but they will definitely be open well beyond what would normal control closing time but not open early enough for super-quicks.

In brief I'll be at Dunkery/Minehead well before the planned arrival time on Anthony's proposed schedule of 0400. That's based on 162k in 8 hours.

We have the two Village Halls from about 1800 through till 0900 in the mornings. Average arrivals will be around midnight I expect but even if very late there will be time for a kip.

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on May 29, 2017, 05:23:57 pm
Thanks Smeth!!

Here's my proposed schedule, based on a near-full-value ride with a bit of buffer. I'll be pleased if I achieve it:

(http://anthonypowis.com/dropbox/Schedule.jpg)

I've added our actual controls, and included most of the old calendar controls / possible alternatives for reference
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on May 29, 2017, 05:25:24 pm
P.S Copse House Cider is still TBC — any news, Justin?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 29, 2017, 05:29:55 pm
Hi Anthony, my email to you crossed with your post above on internet. Check it out. If you're looking at this now and its convenient give me a call by mob. We can bottom a couple of things with a quick call.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 29, 2017, 10:40:45 pm
hi,
that looks amazing!

if I make it round in time this support will definitely be the thing that made it possible  :thumbsup:

The timetable looks really helpful thanks!

a few thoughts based on the couple of 1,000's I've done
- I think the first stage will be quicker, the last stages slower (and slower)
– leaving controls an hour after closing is ok on 1200km+ rides because of the time allowance, on a 1,000 after 500km it's too hard for a slower rider to chase back the time... I think 30 mins tops after closing
– have you sent it to Shawn? his feedback would be interesting

see you Thursday!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 29, 2017, 11:18:11 pm
On this one the Minehead to Bovey stage is the one to brace yourself for. Mega. The next stage has more climbing per KM on paper but it's easier (relatively!)
The only thing I'd add to Andy's comments is that you will make up a lot of time from Membury Services at about 880k. Jonah told me that and it's bang on. I'm not recommending it but if you set off into the last day a couple of hours behind time you will make it unless you or the bike break.
There's a group email in a mo.

Veloboy, can you pm me your email address please?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on May 30, 2017, 12:20:07 pm
On this one the Minehead to Bovey stage is the one to brace yourself for. Mega. The next stage has more climbing per KM on paper but it's easier (relatively!)
The only thing I'd add to Andy's comments is that you will make up a lot of time from Membury Services at about 880k. Jonah told me that and it's bang on. I'm not recommending it but if you set off into the last day a couple of hours behind time you will make it unless you or the bike break.
That's really helpful to know, thanks. will remain positive even if I'm technically out of time until much closer to the end than I'd planned!

I'm totally up for this now, and am going to give it my best shot. I'm going to take it easy over to Minehead even if that means being off the back from the start, because I don't want to hit Exmoor with my legs already complaining too much... but by plodding on, and minimising time stopped will hopefully squeeze inside the time limit.

thanks again,
andrew.
PS entry now submitted  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on May 31, 2017, 11:53:50 pm
Eight intrepids will soon be heading for the Queen Mary pub in Poole for a Thursday 8pm departure into history. That's good, I've got just enough teaspoons! ;D

More welcome at late notice. You'll just have to share.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 01, 2017, 12:42:21 am
It's now 9. Just whittling another spoon.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: chillmoister on June 01, 2017, 09:36:15 am
good luck chaps!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on June 01, 2017, 09:39:56 am
hi,
legs have stopped hurting after the Brimstone, which is a relief  :thumbsup: and slept for 10 hours last night (!) so all set to go.

my tracker will be on, and is here: bit.ly/27Z5BcZ (http://bit.ly/27Z5BcZ).

Queen Mary for tea, and then off. Great to hear that there's going to be 9 of us on the road.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 01, 2017, 10:30:43 am
T - 9 & half hours .... the suspense is getting to me & I'm not even riding ...

Bon route one and all !!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Simon_T on June 01, 2017, 10:48:35 am

Best of luck to the Nine Riders! 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: tonyh on June 01, 2017, 11:03:39 am

From me also!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: JonB on June 01, 2017, 03:12:02 pm
and me .... go crackpots :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: veloboy on June 01, 2017, 03:55:49 pm
Just rolling off now from London on the train; eta Poole 18:18
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Altitude Accumulator on June 01, 2017, 05:11:13 pm
Bridgwater control forecast tomorrow looking perfect Audax weather:

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=51.133054,-3.014498

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=51.133054,-3.014498 (http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=51.133054,-3.014498)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 01, 2017, 06:25:05 pm
God's speed folks - please update YACF if you get a rare sane moment
Believe me when I say I'm gutted to the core but I need to rest my Brimstone Achilies
All the best for your adventure and you are in safe hands with the support crew
Jonah X
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 01, 2017, 06:42:25 pm
God's speed folks - please update YACF if you get a rare sane moment
Believe me when I say I'm gutted to the core but I need to rest my Brimstone Achilies
All the best for your adventure and you are in safe hands with the support crew
Jonah X

Sorry to hear that Jonah ! I bet you are gutted  :(

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 01, 2017, 08:20:57 pm
Bonne Route!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 01, 2017, 08:27:03 pm
... and they're off. Now on the A35 to Bere Regis according to andyp's tracker ... hope the traffic's light and well behaved.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 01, 2017, 09:51:30 pm
CrAcKpOt 2017 is off
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 01, 2017, 11:52:57 pm
Will try to keep posting updates. Also glance at Facebook Audax UK group. Easier for pics.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 02, 2017, 09:21:41 am
Breakfast at Dunkery went well. Riders away in twos and three between 0440 and 0540.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Mr Reynholm on June 02, 2017, 10:08:35 am
Waiting for a breakfast in Bovey. Five? Riders were just leaving as I arrived.

Shawn knows where all the best hills are!  :o
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ivan on June 02, 2017, 12:00:28 pm
Also looks like Anthony is posting here: https://twitter.com/AudaxHackney
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Altitude Accumulator on June 02, 2017, 04:15:53 pm
16:10 here at Bridgwater Warner Towers 4 riders (Lucas,Gardiner,Barkham and Whyte) just left following a high tea of lasagne and cream teas
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Altitude Accumulator on June 02, 2017, 06:20:09 pm
18:18 Bridgwater Warner Towers Alex Frost rejuvenated after shower lasagne rice pudding combo
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 02, 2017, 06:24:01 pm
At the same time? Is there a name for that?
Pumping up air beds at Blackdown

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 02, 2017, 06:32:16 pm
Andy P, JAHS and Anthony 'Bambi' Powis are making steady progress and just got to Bovey Tracy after the monstrous Second Stage.  They're now off to Devon - the first 24-hrs are nearly boshed
Go on Boyz Zzzzzz's
J
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 02, 2017, 06:32:57 pm
18:18 Bridgwater Warner Towers Alex Frost rejuvenated after shower lasagne rice pudding combo

That's the ultimate in audax efficiency at a control.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Altitude Accumulator on June 02, 2017, 06:35:14 pm
Crackpot 2017 The Time Trial Legend Nick Gardiner tucks in to my grub service in Bridgwater control - how cool is that
(http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee356/hottaperimeter/IMG_0887_zps5bhfhliy.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/hottaperimeter/media/IMG_0887_zps5bhfhliy.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Altitude Accumulator on June 02, 2017, 06:39:39 pm
Whoop Whoop it's "Hackney Time #1" at Warner Towers for Crackpot 2017 these London boys layer there cream wrong on their scones!

(http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee356/hottaperimeter/IMG_0891_zpsfkima5vv.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/hottaperimeter/media/IMG_0891_zpsfkima5vv.jpg.html)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 02, 2017, 06:48:23 pm
Nice One Warners!  Three Happy Hero's!
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Post by: Audax Club Hackney on June 02, 2017, 08:00:42 pm
WSR25s in the making..?
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Post by: Altitude Accumulator on June 02, 2017, 08:05:00 pm
Hackney Empire Part 2 with Wessex Audax Master tucking in at Warner Towers note for Jonsey the cream went on first. The last three of eight left at 7:45pm still on track fresh and raring to crack on
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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 02, 2017, 08:25:07 pm
The gang look fresh - shame about their cream tea etiquette aye?  Did you introduce them to the delights of yhe Dorset Knob?  Here's hoping!
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Post by: Ian H on June 02, 2017, 08:29:30 pm
Crackpot 2017 The Time Trial Legend Nick Gardiner tucks in to my grub service in Bridgwater control - how cool is that
(http://i535.photobucket.com/albums/ee356/hottaperimeter/IMG_0887_zps5bhfhliy.jpg) (http://s535.photobucket.com/user/hottaperimeter/media/IMG_0887_zps5bhfhliy.jpg.html)

Nik should do well. He broke all records on the Kernow t'other year.
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Post by: Jonah on June 02, 2017, 08:44:43 pm
What a slap-up feast n'all!?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 02, 2017, 08:52:04 pm
As night creeps in the thought of sleep must approach our band of brave brothers but beware the Hedge Monsters and stick to roads I tell 'ee  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 02, 2017, 11:16:28 pm
Four riders are with us now, the first trio arriving before 2200. Four more out there soldiering on. Expected in next 60 to 90 minutes. Ok for time. Just on an errand to sort a mechanical. Chilli, couscous, baked spuds etc. being served.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 03, 2017, 12:21:16 am
Four riders are with us now, the first trio arriving before 2200. Four more out there soldiering on. Expected in next 60 to 90 minutes. Ok for time. Just on an errand to sort a mechanical. Chilli, couscous, baked spuds etc. being served.

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AF arrived 0015. Looking fine. Sleep at last. 

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 03, 2017, 08:17:58 am
"Warriors, come out to play-ay."  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 03, 2017, 08:56:11 am
"All right now, for all you boppers out there in the big city, all you Street people with an ear for the action, I've been asked to relay an event from CrAcKpOt 2017.   Turns out AndyP has packed but the others are still goin' strong.  It's an update from the Warriors, that real live bunch from Hackney and I do mean the Warriors.  Here's a hit with them in mind..."
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 03, 2017, 09:48:44 am
Okay Boppers, the lanes are finally startin' to cool down.  Turns out akin has restarted for the day with Ant & JAHS still peeling strong


Canyon you dig it?!  Can you dìiiiiiiiiiigit?!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 03, 2017, 09:54:24 am
Good news Boppers... The Warriors just presented in Wells.  Be lookin' good Warriors.  All the way to the next control.  You hear me babies?  Good. Real good.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: akin on June 03, 2017, 10:08:43 am
I have joined Anthony and Jahs for a 'pointless' meander round the middle section.

Jags is fixing the second puncture of the day for him in Wells Waitrose cafe. Al fresco dining at its best?

Still disappointed that I could not ride the remainder of yesterday   :sick:  but have recovered whilst helping out at the overnight control and might as well enjoy the rest of my holiday.

Will be back on helper duties once we have knocked out the next 250k.

Smethurst's have done an amazing job supporting the riders so far.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 03, 2017, 10:16:31 am
Thanks for your help yesterday akin. The true spirit and all that. Have a good day riding.
All cleared the overnight stop by about 7.30. Good progress with all inside the time limit. Sounds marginal but that was a monstrous 30 hours of climbing to the first sleep. Still work to do but not like that. Onwards Crackpots

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 03, 2017, 11:33:22 am
AndyP & akin have packed ? Sorry to hear that. What happened ?

I've been watching AndyP's tracker and it's still moving. Has he passed it on to someone else ? If so, who ?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Gadget on June 03, 2017, 11:57:42 am
Anthony Powis now has the tracker
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 03, 2017, 12:03:57 pm
Power on Powis
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 03, 2017, 12:08:37 pm
Akin couldn't eat yesterday, recovered now and on a day ride. He's been helping at the sleep control and van loading. Es doing the same tonight. Andy P still got Brimstone in legs.

Our intrepid band continue to bimble. Heading to night three stop  (second sleep) to set up. First, an intravenous double espresso drip!

Meanwhile

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: akin on June 03, 2017, 12:26:14 pm
Unscheduled stop in Keynsham whilst Jahs goes to a bike shop.

Spent the last section bathed in sunshine, enjoying the lanes and climbs, whilst considering the practicalities of another attempt  :facepalm:.

All that and I have still found time to try to explain Justin's curious Warriors references to a bemused Anthony.

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ivan on June 03, 2017, 01:08:52 pm
AndyP, this morning on FB:

I've packed at the night control, it was a wonderful ride but I was really sleepy last night - obviously not fully recovered from the brimstone. Have put the tracker on Anthony's bike.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 03, 2017, 02:28:20 pm
Yup - Brimstone legs ! Anyone who's ridden it knows how that feels ....

... the remaing 7 may well experience Crackpot legs. I took a photo of mine after riding it last year, but dare not publish.

The horror, the horror ....
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on June 03, 2017, 02:50:08 pm
hi,
the ride was wonderful, the company and feel on the road great, and the support amazing, but I was still a little tired after the Brimstone, and found keeping awake on the second night really hard. another 50 hours would've been too much so I called it a day.

My photos are on the ACH fb page here: http://bit.ly/2rvKyPA (http://bit.ly/2rvKyPA).

thanks again to everyone who helped, and for the moral support!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 03, 2017, 02:57:02 pm
The three 'A's enact the ritual handover of the tracker. I provide the ceremonial rubber band which will stop it rattling to prevent Anthony  being driven over the  edge.
John B and James W clip in for another 330k of crackpot  joy.
Adam K and James S leave the shadow of Blackdown  VILLAGE hall into lovely Dorset. Anthonys  bike tries to follow.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170603/dd840e241701a8ecb8031f70a0e365b3.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170603/dec0214ecc6823379569e81007b35160.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170603/4d37d556dba826910199969298011a85.jpg)

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: mattc on June 03, 2017, 03:29:01 pm
18:18 Bridgwater Warner Towers Alex Frost rejuvenated after shower lasagne rice pudding combo

That's the ultimate in audax efficiency at a control.
;D

(I think it even tops the sandwich+urinals video from PBP of yore.)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: mattc on June 03, 2017, 04:05:52 pm
There's a load of chat on the Facebook* page, really enjoying my armchair audaxing weekend (Kirtons 600 too!).

AndyP (i think?) made the nice comment that the Crackpot is like the Bob Graham Round. Random attempts are made, with support from random fellow riders.

I think the BGR is considerably more elite** an achievement, but it's still a nice comparison :)

* What an incongruous combination - A Wessex 1000 covered on Facebook. The horror!
**That should start some discussion ...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: psyclist on June 03, 2017, 05:33:13 pm
Well done to AndyP and akin for getting so far, and here's hoping the remaining 7 riders enjoy the rest of the ride.

AndyP, you were riding so well last weekend on the Brimstone. I'm sure with a bit more rest you would have smashed the CrAcKpOt.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 03, 2017, 06:29:09 pm
Anyone have position updates and times please? At the Oakford Fitzpaine stop we have no signal whatsoever. Keep them coming if you get any. GPS and Altitude Accumulator can give you my mobile by pm as well and that might work occasionally.
We're flying the stove and airbeds blind. Also not very available for emergencies. I'll try and pop-up this hill every hour or so.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 03, 2017, 06:32:05 pm
Also include in any contact... Rain radar shows these heavy showers are passing soon. Ta

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: JonBuoy on June 03, 2017, 06:34:48 pm
Andy's tracker is just approaching Frome.
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Post by: Smeth on June 03, 2017, 06:38:26 pm
Cheers Jon I can extrapolate. James W has one. I'll try to get on while up in the heights.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Altitude Accumulator on June 03, 2017, 06:40:13 pm
Really surprised at Andy P packing he looked so calm and fresh yesterday at Bridgwater control was the last person who I thought would pack - when you plan another attempt let me know  in advance we will look after you again in Somerset - rest well fellow audaxer
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Post by: Smeth on June 03, 2017, 06:42:13 pm
Whoot! James W is South of Kings Stag.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on June 03, 2017, 09:41:23 pm
Really surprised at Andy P packing he looked so calm and fresh yesterday at Bridgwater control was the last person who I thought would pack - when you plan another attempt let me know  in advance we will look after you again in Somerset - rest well fellow audaxer

Thanks! I'm sure I'll be back – that first 400km is wonderful, and stopping off at yours really set us up for the evening - it was perfect.

Just haven't done enough km's yet this year to sustain a Brimstone and Crackpot in the same week* – I was so tired by midnight/1am that I knew I wouldn't be able to do it for a second night so rather than completely ruin myself I thought it better to peel off while still only 40km from home, and leave myself able to function next week. Slept for 4 hours this afternoon and probably won't be up much longer.

The support was fantastic, david driving the length and breadth of Wessex to be where we needed him – including driving to my house last night at 9pm to pick up a spare wheel! Food was great, and the weather (mostly) perfect, and the hills and views truly epic.

Will head over to Poole tomorrow night for the Arriveé and will hopefully catch most people there.

Andrew.
PS looks like Anthony is making short work of the section down to West Stafford, so should be able to get a good sleep tonight.
* not sure I ever could: tough 1,000's really take it out of me.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 03, 2017, 10:24:17 pm
Five riders have arrived at Okeford Fitzpaine at about 730k. John, Nick, James W and Adam have gone to the pub for an hour after a big feed and clean up. Well, ACH did come up with the idea so I suppose it's in character!

The other three are closing our position steadily from reports and the tracker. .

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 04, 2017, 01:15:41 am
After 750k the field spanned only three hours on the road albeit having had different amounts of sleep. Last rider into Okeford at 0015 hours. Varying states of fatigue, but all in pretty good spirits. 0100 all tucked up. 0500 reveille for an 0600 depart. Fontmell Magna straight after breakfast, the glorious Nadder Valley then over numerous downs before Membury Service. Then it's homeward bound. Relatively fast and a tad flatter than other legs.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 04, 2017, 07:55:03 am
And people ask us why?(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170604/5f306d7f27756c216a045907386d4ffc.jpg)

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Post by: Smeth on June 04, 2017, 08:01:51 am
All leaving Oakford Fitzpaine sleep stop around 6am. Just 250k to do. Akin sticks with us to the end after a 250k day out yesterday to get back into it. Cheers(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170604/1941b361bbdd4f8b7ec12037fbd16c7a.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170604/7dd4c07ea106a60da5e8279d37166106.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170604/7c179897da8691ed18210aeb3d0aae05.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170604/0b0e3f2dcc4b4ef3c46c951b02ddcd78.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170604/34b954532d7bd18996643c9067c1680f.jpg)

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 04, 2017, 12:16:35 pm
Go on Boyz!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 04, 2017, 01:59:34 pm
Message from Anthony 'Bambi' Powis - 100K left to munch.  Aiming for an 8pm finnish
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 04, 2017, 06:36:20 pm
First four Back in the Queen Mary. Veloboy, JamesW, SwissHat. NikG. Stiff headwind over the New Forest and 960k in the legs resulted in a 4 up TTT.  The tracker showed relentless acceleration all the way home. About 67 hours. Expecting the other three in next two hours.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Audax Club Hackney on June 04, 2017, 06:43:47 pm
"Yeeee-Har, Jesters' Dead!"
Good effort men
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Audax Club Hackney on June 04, 2017, 07:53:43 pm
"Good news Boppers,  the big alert has been called off.  Turns out the early reports were wrong, all wrong.  Now here's for that group out there had such a hard time geetin' home.   I guess the only thing we can do is play you a song..."
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 04, 2017, 10:45:12 pm
All back. Great times. Well done boys. Thanks Janette (Mrs Smeth)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on June 05, 2017, 12:24:45 am
What a ride!

https://www.strava.com/activities/1021672598
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: jahs on June 05, 2017, 01:08:32 am
Superb ride. Many, many thanks to all who helped out - couldn't have done it without you. Really had the feel of a full TLC calendar ride.

https://www.strava.com/activities/1021685124
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: JonB on June 05, 2017, 08:59:29 am
Wow, having done the SR this year I have some idea of how tough this must have been ... Well done all  :thumbsup:
PS - the 'Warriors' commentary from Jonah was a nice touch
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 05, 2017, 09:22:17 am
Top job everyone - especially Smeth for getting this organised. Amazing!!

I enjoyed watching everyone's progress too, although I'd rather have been riding it too of course.

I wonder if a calendar re-run is any more likely now ... ?
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Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 05, 2017, 10:26:36 am
Chapeau!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on June 05, 2017, 10:36:43 am
Well done to everyone—riders and helpers.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on June 05, 2017, 10:53:35 am
One of the best things about this ride was the lack of crap petrol stations, services and other commercial stops, particularly on days 1 and 2—made possible by all the generous support, primarily the incredible efforts of David and Jeanette who provided the Dunkery camp breakfast as well as two brilliant night stops, but also the water refill in Halstock, and a great dinner in Bridgwater (thanks Jon). Adam helped out at the overnights when he had to abandon. It felt like real full luxury audax, and it made the whole thing possible.

Thanks also to Shawn, not only for 'the wiggly line' as David put it, but also for coming to see us off and welcome us back in Poole.

Summary:
It is hard
but
You should ride it

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: swiss hat on June 05, 2017, 11:11:59 am
I think this CrAcKpOt was a fine example of all that is the best of Audax. The Dunkery Beacon camp and village halls were ideal with great tlc provided by Smeth and helpers. AA's Bridgwater stop kept us fueled and ready to push on to the first hall. And the audacious spirit of all the riders  :thumbsup:

I thought my ride would probably be over after 450 km due a worn front rim (didn't check that well enough obviously). But Smeth rang around and a replacement was found courtesy of AndyP. Whilst I was sleeping the replacement wheel was collected, my tyre and tube fitted, and wheel installed so that I was ready to continue the next day. I hope to be able to return the kind help one day if needed.   
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: johny bath on June 05, 2017, 12:13:40 pm
Hurrah!
What a ride - I feel very privileged to be part of the crackpot club. The route is incredible, and the legend of the the Minehead to Bovey Tracey section is something to experience, especially after having ridden through the night first! I have done 1000k rides before, but this one is quite something different.

First of all, huge thanks to the smeth team  - for me, no smeth team, no ride. I am not one of your audax hard men than can sleep in cardboard  or a phone box, so to have a warm village hall to dry out in and return the feeling to your feet (remember it is june right?) was the key ingredient to making this actually quite enjoyable - selective memory is kicking in already. We were looked after so well that I had some of the best deepest sleep I have had in ages, and started to feel better as the ride got on. My respect to Adam - having to pack is hard, but going on to help out on making sure the rest of us were looked after was impressive.

Thanks to Jon and fantastic food and scones in Bridgewater - I really appreciated this - sorry that I was quite distracted by the phone at the time, so apologise if I  seemed antisocial just turning up eating your food and talking to someone else. As it turned out this was the green light to continue...

The first day was the hardest with a lot on my mind, and I really appreciated being towed and encouraged along with the great group I was in. When the rain kicked in on that first day, I have to say my spirits hit rock bottom and could very easily have packed, but great consistent pacing and wheels to follow and good company really pulled me along.

One of the great impressions of the weekend was that there were so many different approaches on how to ride this with different speeds, sleeping, stopping etc, but despite this we all finished pretty well in the same time - there is so much more to this than just riding hard up hills - which there is no shortage of - thanks Shawn!

By the way - the huge tailwind home dropped to totally still air and thunderstorms on the way back, but it was strangely still enjoyable with a warm glowing feeling knowing that I had completed the crackpot (or is that CrAcKpOt) - or maybe it was the ciders at the Queen Mary! - According to Garmins I think we worked out that we had burnt off enough energy equivalent to 105 pints, but having googled calories and pints, it is actually equivalent to 168.3,  the last .3 if you have a shandy as the last pint maybe.

All the best and see you out on the road



Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on June 05, 2017, 02:34:33 pm
There were 3 of us who rode Crackpot on fixed.

now five— Jonah and (as of yesterday) James 'jahs'

Absolute nutjobs if you ask me
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 05, 2017, 08:18:42 pm
Outstanding!
The True Spirit of Audax
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Mr Reynholm on June 05, 2017, 10:00:08 pm
This was such a tough weekend and a bit! The Crackpot is a ride I've wanted to do for quite awhile, fantastic to have been involved in this.
Big thank yous to all who've made this one happen  :)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on June 10, 2017, 02:39:01 pm
We now have a hard-core audaxing govermnet. Spotted in the pit of the Politics board:
https://twitter.com/journoraven/status/873280095015882756


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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Anthony on June 12, 2017, 11:18:01 am
(http://anthonypowis.com/dropbox/Crackpots.jpg)

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 12, 2017, 11:27:07 am
(http://anthonypowis.com/dropbox/Crackpots.jpg)
Day made. Genius.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 12, 2019, 02:52:40 pm
There’s interesting news to be had on FB:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1788401671205071/?ref=share
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on June 12, 2019, 08:25:21 pm
There’s interesting news to be had on FB:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/1788401671205071/?ref=share

For those of us not on Farcebook?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on June 12, 2019, 08:45:38 pm
Here you go..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190612/120223fa69285159c7343c4e6db69723.jpg)

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Wycombewheeler on June 12, 2019, 10:08:02 pm
Here you go..(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190612/120223fa69285159c7343c4e6db69723.jpg)

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noticeably the porkers is on the first Saturday in May, so no Brevet Cymru/Porkers combo.  Obviously due to the early May bank holiday moving to the Friday for VE day.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on June 14, 2019, 10:12:00 am
Thanks. I've put it in the diary.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: S2L on June 14, 2019, 01:02:07 pm
OK, interesting for me, chiefly because there is a direct train from Leamington to Bournemouth. so scores high on logistics. Never done a 1,000 and looks like a good one to get started
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Jonah on June 16, 2019, 12:06:38 am
Owoooooooooooooooooohhhhh!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hillbilly on June 17, 2019, 01:18:11 pm
At last!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: vorsprung on June 17, 2019, 01:24:58 pm
I'm shampooing the dog that evening, sadly
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: marcusjb on June 17, 2019, 02:42:29 pm
1000km of shitty Wessex lanes?

Loadsa hills?

Definitely maybe if I can get fit enough.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on June 17, 2019, 11:03:30 pm
Something I rescued from the dead hands of Lotus Word Pro.
http://www.ukcyclist.co.uk/reports-articles/89-the-crackpot-1000-1998
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on June 18, 2019, 06:47:20 pm
Thanks Ian - is it a taster of what’s to come next year?

It also reminded me - you all had to submit s schedule before Shawn accepted your entry didn’t you ?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: postie on June 18, 2019, 07:32:38 pm
We did indeed , i suspect it will be the same again.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on June 18, 2019, 07:42:40 pm
Thanks Ian - is it a taster of what’s to come next year?
The names will have changed (at least three of those mentioned are no longer with us),  and I'm sure Shawn will be cooking up some interesting variations to the route.  All I can say is that it will fit on to the Wessex tourist map.

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It also reminded me - you all had to submit s schedule before Shawn accepted your entry didn’t you ?
Only for the first one as I recall, which was originally set at 65hrs max.  Only 3 (or was it 4?) of us got inside that limit.  Shawn appealed to ACP and they responded saying the min speed was lower above 600k, so 75hrs allowed.

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: SR Steve on June 18, 2019, 09:38:09 pm
Thanks Ian - is it a taster of what’s to come next year?
The names will have changed (at least three of those mentioned are no longer with us),  and I'm sure Shawn will be cooking up some interesting variations to the route.  All I can say is that it will fit on to the Wessex tourist map.

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It also reminded me - you all had to submit s schedule before Shawn accepted your entry didn’t you ?
Only for the first one as I recall, which was originally set at 65hrs max.  Only 3 (or was it 4?) of us got inside that limit.  Shawn appealed to ACP and they responded saying the min speed was lower above 600k, so 75hrs allowed.
Shawn also required a schedule in 2000, however it took everyone longer than they expected. I set mine for 66:40 (15 km/h) but took a little longer as I had a long sleep in a bed at a pub control on the last night.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ian H on June 18, 2019, 11:14:56 pm
Thanks Ian - is it a taster of what’s to come next year?
The names will have changed (at least three of those mentioned are no longer with us),  and I'm sure Shawn will be cooking up some interesting variations to the route.  All I can say is that it will fit on to the Wessex tourist map.

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It also reminded me - you all had to submit s schedule before Shawn accepted your entry didn’t you ?
Only for the first one as I recall, which was originally set at 65hrs max.  Only 3 (or was it 4?) of us got inside that limit.  Shawn appealed to ACP and they responded saying the min speed was lower above 600k, so 75hrs allowed.
Shawn also required a schedule in 2000, however it took everyone longer than they expected. I set mine for 66:40 (15 km/h) but took a little longer as I had a long sleep in a bed at a pub control on the last night.
I think he let me off because I'd ridden it before. 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: S2L on June 19, 2019, 06:59:47 am
65 hours?

I'm out... ::-)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: postie on June 19, 2019, 07:49:37 am
I tbink your find its 75hours these days.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: SR Steve on June 19, 2019, 03:12:18 pm
65 hours?

I'm out... ::-)

Don't panic! It was 75 hours in 1998 according to the 1998 Audax UK Calendar.

BRM 1000s have been 75 hours maximum as long as I can remember. My first was the somewhat flatter Great Eastern 1000 in 1988 and that was 75 hours.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: teethgrinder on June 20, 2019, 11:58:50 am
I tbink your find its 75hours these days.

Yes.
It started (will start?) at 8pm and we had until about 11pm several days later to finish in time, though everyone who did finish was pretty much finished by about 7pm.

1st edition in 1996, the toughest section of the ride between Minehead and Bovey Tracey was notably further than what was said on the routesheet and at least half the field were out if time at Bovey Tracey, where a lot of people packed.

Ridden all 3 plus rode the route in the time limit another time. Only ever ridden it on fixed. If I ride it again, I'll probably use gears to save a lot of walking up hills. If it fits in with next year, I'll ride or help at a control.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 20, 2019, 03:59:20 pm
Think some serious investment in Brownie Points from Mrs CET will be required for CrAcKpOt and Wild Atlantic Way in same year. 
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Paul D on June 21, 2019, 05:50:01 am
Think some serious investment in Brownie Points from Mrs CET will be required for CrAcKpOt and Wild Atlantic Way in same year.

This is exactly my thinking at the moment.

I bet the WAWA will land on the same dates and make the decision harder but the conversation at home a little easier.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: WyOwyvern on July 03, 2019, 06:21:32 pm
Two more Crackpot perm successes this last week end [phew!]

Ian Ryall and Shaun Hargreaves started Thursday and finished some 72hrs or so later.

To help the calendar event next year I have asked for their GPS and any info that may affect the ride in 2020.

Likewise if anyone can provide information on their perm Crackpot experience please get in touch. Don't be shy all assistance appreciated!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: willpom gwraudax on July 08, 2019, 11:47:33 am
Will it be a BRM event? Been planning to do the Wessex SR for a while, want to do all as calendar, the CrAcKpOt will be the icing on the cake, BRM will get me my last 1000 for ACP R10000 :D I'll still do it though...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: WyOwyvern on July 08, 2019, 06:01:05 pm
BRM intended  8)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: willpom gwraudax on July 08, 2019, 09:32:40 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: teethgrinder on July 12, 2019, 08:51:15 am
Two more Crackpot perm successes this last week end [phew!]

Ian Ryall and Shaun Hargreaves started Thursday and finished some 72hrs or so later.


Horay! :thumbsup:

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To help the calendar event next year I have asked for their GPS and any info that may affect the ride in 2020.

Likewise if anyone can provide information on their perm Crackpot experience please get in touch. Don't be shy all assistance appreciated!

I'm not sure that my ride is any real use. After a GPS cock up I found myself using the backup routesheet on the way to the original Codford St Peter control. That was short lived, as my routesheet made a bid for freedom in the night, on the decent to Okeford Fitzpaine, never to be seen again...
This led to an improvised version of Crackpot for the last 2-300km.

I'm hoping to ride Tour Divide next year and I don't know how Crackpot fits in with the calendar.
Some riding, testing the route early next year might be a good plan for all.
It'd be good to ride again, though probably my first with gears. I'm sure I could still ride it on fixed within the time limit, but from my last Crackpot, I decided that I didn't really want to walk quite that much and if I did, I'd have gone for a walk, not a bike ride.
On the other hand, if it doesn't clash with anything higher up my hierarchy of events and an extra pair of hand are needed to make it possible, or even much less stressful, then volunteering would be a good option for me too.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: vistaed on July 13, 2019, 01:46:40 pm
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I'm hoping to ride Tour Divide next year
I'm already looking forward to watching your blue dot next year  :D
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: willpom gwraudax on July 13, 2019, 03:01:46 pm
I decided that I didn't really want to walk quite that much and if I did, I'd have gone for a walk, not a bike ride.

There's a reason it's called a push bike...  ;)
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: teethgrinder on July 15, 2019, 07:35:34 am
I decided that I didn't really want to walk quite that much and if I did, I'd have gone for a walk, not a bike ride.

There's a reason it's called a push bike...  ;)

I suppose there's some irony in my reasoning for probably not riding Crackpot on fixed again and saying that I want to do Tour Divide in the same post. Given my lack of off road skill usually means I end up pushing or carrying my mountain bike on ost off road rides.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Bianchi Boy on September 24, 2019, 07:01:40 pm
I may have missed this up thread, but what are the options for sleeping. I am a little thrown by the 8pm start.

BB

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: postie on September 24, 2019, 07:24:39 pm
You ride through the first night, then sleep in ditches, graveyards etc.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Bianchi Boy on September 24, 2019, 08:09:13 pm
You ride through the first night, then sleep in ditches, graveyards etc.
Not sure if that was what I was hopping for / dreading. I have avoided the Wessex rides as I prefer rides that go somewhere and the Wessex rides just go round and round with little direction. But I may break my duck next year.

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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: postie on September 24, 2019, 08:46:08 pm
The wessex rides are the best rides there are and give a fine tour of ancient wessex and as someone who as ridden them for 25 years they do go somewhere!!!!
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on September 24, 2019, 10:50:33 pm
It's on the list for next year.  Given my recent track record at difficult hilly rides, that's probably a mistake.  But it's less time away from home than any other 1000.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Bianchi Boy on September 25, 2019, 07:00:57 am
The wessex rides are the best rides there are and give a fine tour of ancient wessex and as someone who as ridden them for 25 years they do go somewhere!!!!
I meant rides like BCM, PBP and LEJOG that have a specific direction, I struggled mentally (and on the hills) in the Millie Pennines because it came back to the same place. If I ride the Crackpot I will constantly be distracted by the shortcuts I could take.

BB
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on September 25, 2019, 10:29:01 am
The Crackpot isn't an out and back ride or like the MP1K or the Mille Cymru that visit the same sleep stop twice. Instead, it's a full tour of Wessex, so you'll see ever-changing scenery instead of seeing the same landscape you've already traversed from a different angle.

It's a bit different.

It's also mentally demanding and, as postie says, you'll be looking to sleep in ditches/bus shelters/graveyards at some points - because it takes a lot out of you, mentally as well as physically.

It's one of the most rewarding routes I've ever ridden.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: teethgrinder on September 25, 2019, 02:16:20 pm
Interesting that the AUK calendar is showing Crackpot, then Mille Pennines the following weekend.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Bianchi Boy on September 25, 2019, 06:44:02 pm
Interesting that the AUK calendar is showing Crackpot, then Mille Pennines the following weekend.
Madness :thumbsup:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: SR Steve on September 25, 2019, 11:55:06 pm
Interesting that the AUK calendar is showing Crackpot, then Mille Pennines the following weekend.
Madness :thumbsup:
Especially if you have already done Deano’s 1000 as a bit of a warm up  :demon:
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Laid Back Rich on October 07, 2019, 05:10:26 pm
Interesting that the AUK calendar is showing Crackpot, then Mille Pennines the following weekend.

and then LLEL on 8th July!
http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/20-895/
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: MCroxford on October 23, 2019, 04:22:40 pm
Why the capitalisation in CrAcKpOt?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 23, 2019, 04:36:59 pm
Why the capitalisation in CrAcKpOt?
It's not always done that way but it does signify the insanity of parts of the route: (Edit: and the riders)
http://www.wessexsr.org.uk/Crackpot.html
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on October 23, 2019, 04:53:28 pm
Damn. This has been on my DIY todo for ages and now there's a Calendar version I have tickets to a Green Day gig in London on Sat night :S
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Smeth on October 23, 2019, 07:33:37 pm
Damn. This has been on my DIY todo for ages and now there's a Calendar version I have tickets to a Green Day gig in London on Sat night :S
It'll just have to be a "Boulevard of Broken Dreams". (sorry).


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Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on October 23, 2019, 08:52:40 pm
Nah, I'll just go back to doing it as a DIY... I walk alone...
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: rob on October 23, 2019, 09:45:06 pm
Nah, I'll just go back to doing it as a DIY... I walk alone...

Good Riddance.....or have the time of your life
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 25, 2019, 12:40:21 pm
Nah, I'll just go back to doing it as a DIY... I walk alone...

Why not offer your services for a route check ?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on October 25, 2019, 01:12:26 pm
Nah, I'll just go back to doing it as a DIY... I walk alone...
Why not offer your services for a route check ?

Not a bad idea. Is there a planned one before this or is it just a case of riding and sending notes back to the org?

Bear in mind, I only use GPS, I don't use paper whatsit thingiebobs so I may be useless for this?

I'm still waiting for the bloody CTT calendar to come out to pick 12hr races before committing to anything next year. Maybe I can schedule it early.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: rob on October 25, 2019, 01:53:38 pm
I'm still waiting for the bloody CTT calendar to come out to pick 12hr races before committing to anything next year. Maybe I can schedule it early.

23rd Aug - National 12hr - Cheshire course + Welsh 12hr (no idea why the clash....)
6th Sep - Kent CA

I suspect no Newbury and I think the Yorkshire event is also disappearing.   Not sure on the Breckland and the ECCA.

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on October 25, 2019, 01:54:34 pm
I'm still waiting for the bloody CTT calendar to come out to pick 12hr races before committing to anything next year. Maybe I can schedule it early.

23rd Aug - National 12hr - Cheshire course + Welsh 12hr (no idea why the clash....)
6th Sep - Kent CA

I suspect no Newbury and I think the Yorkshire event is also disappearing.   Not sure on the Breckland and the ECCA.

Cheers, how'd you find those out? Did you go direct to the district or something? Or do you have a draft handbook?

Chesire is probably the fastest of those after Breckland I guess?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: rob on October 25, 2019, 02:00:30 pm
I'm still waiting for the bloody CTT calendar to come out to pick 12hr races before committing to anything next year. Maybe I can schedule it early.

23rd Aug - National 12hr - Cheshire course + Welsh 12hr (no idea why the clash....)
6th Sep - Kent CA

I suspect no Newbury and I think the Yorkshire event is also disappearing.   Not sure on the Breckland and the ECCA.

Cheers, how'd you find those out? Did you go direct to the district or something? Or do you have a draft handbook?

Chesire is probably the fastest of those after Breckland I guess?

There's a thread on the TT forum, but you can often get dates early if you go to the individual district website.  I've not ridden the Cheshire but it shares roads and organisers with the 24hr so quick-ish with the odd hill.   Breckland definitely the fastest as the ECCA is now a bit more sporting with only the first 80 miles on the E2.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Karla on October 25, 2019, 04:55:12 pm
The Yorkshire event is being resurrected, under new management and on a different course.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on October 25, 2019, 05:08:30 pm
The Yorkshire event is being resurrected, under new management and on a different course.

Is it likely to be a flat, fast course? Any idea of date? and maybe this chat should go over to Racing thread?

Crackpot Tester Ride: April is gonna be wet(ter) and miserable(er) isn't it?
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: GPS on October 27, 2019, 07:35:29 pm
A route check would need to be within two weeks of the calendar ride for the rider to be validated as a rider on the event (as far as I’m aware anyway).

You could always ride it in April, but it’d have to be a DIY perm in that case.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: vistaed on October 27, 2019, 10:50:54 pm
Time to think about next year and seems crackpot hits the sweet spot for me in terms of timing and getting the training in. And I don't really know Wessex that well by bike so a good way to explore it.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: hippy on October 27, 2019, 11:31:57 pm
A route check would need to be within two weeks of the calendar ride for the rider to be validated as a rider on the event (as far as I’m aware anyway).
You could always ride it in April, but it’d have to be a DIY perm in that case.

It was always going to be a DIY as I didn't expect it to be a calendar event. Is there any advantage to doing it within the 2 week window? What does being validated on the event get me compared to riding it, say, 3 weeks out. Would it then allow the 1000k to count towards Brevet 10000-esque awards or similar? I definitely can't do it the weekend after but perhaps the two weekends before it would be possible (and make sense from a route check point of view).
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: andyp on October 28, 2019, 03:33:54 am
It was always going to be a DIY as I didn't expect it to be a calendar event. Is there any advantage to doing it within the 2 week window? What does being validated on the event get me compared to riding it, say, 3 weeks out. Would it then allow the 1000k to count towards Brevet 10000-esque awards or similar? I definitely can't do it the weekend after but perhaps the two weekends before it would be possible (and make sense from a route check point of view).

you need to liaise with Shawn, but I understand that he's recrafting the route a little to take account of the passage of time, new control possibilities, and traffic volumes, so if he wanted a route check you would get the new and improved gpx file to follow.
Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ajax Bay on October 28, 2019, 11:09:29 am
A route check would need to be within two weeks of the calendar ride for the rider to be validated as a rider on the event (as far as I’m aware anyway).
You could always ride it in April, but it’d have to be a DIY perm in that case.
Is there any advantage to doing it within the 2 week window? What does being validated on the event get me compared to riding it, say, 3 weeks out. Would it then allow the 1000k to count towards Brevet 10000-esque awards or similar?
Advantage: The ten points would be calendar events points not DIY points, depending on your remotest interest in 'points' :)
AUK Reg 7.2.1 "Further Event Classifications:(b) Organisers of calendar events and their helpers may ride their own event(s) up to 15 days in advance or 7 days after the scheduled event date and be included in the event results."
Yes - if you ride the calendar (BRM) event route in support of the organiser (eg route check) then your ride can be homologated as a BRM, which one could count towards (say) ACP10k award. A DIY would only be BR, which would be fine for all the AUK Brevet type awards (and others) but couldn't be used for the ACP ones (5k and 10k).
HTH

Title: Re: CrAcKpOt
Post by: Ivan on October 28, 2019, 01:25:07 pm
Note that BRM helper rides can only be done up to 14 days before the event and not afterwards, but suspect there is some confusion about this and in fact rides might validated when done within the larger AUK BR time frame.