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Off Topic => The Pub => Topic started by: Polar Bear on October 04, 2015, 01:39:59 pm

Title: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Polar Bear on October 04, 2015, 01:39:59 pm
Ok, so we know that at the moment LeBaton is hibernating in a wall at Dunnet Head.    I am guessing that he is in the wall that surrounds the lighthouse and extends up the hill towards the old concrete looking blocks probably from WW2. (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@58.6705798,-3.3762036,3a,60y,20.84h,88.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQnFCGPRzOUWVzOXCWoLRYg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1?hl=en)

With JenM's help we should be able to get a close fix and then mount a rescue attempt or two next spring and summer.

The rescue would require a relay of folk ready to take on the baton unless we can persuade the committee to amend the rules allowing for rail and ferry travel.

So, who's upferit then?
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Kim on October 04, 2015, 01:49:18 pm
Isn't there a confined space and/or gravity issue?

Would probably need to bring a SON-powered version of one of those crawling robots like they use to unmolish unclear reactors...  Or a team of dry-stone wallers.

Getting to Dunnet Head is the easy bit.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Torslanda on October 04, 2015, 01:50:36 pm
Bollocks to the 'Committee'. Use the Royal Mail if you have to.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Polar Bear on October 04, 2015, 01:55:05 pm
So, stimulate your marvellously creative grey cells and devise a rescue plan, please. 

There are in essence three issues, getting to Dunnet (easy), locating M. LeBaton (might be tricky), and, the biggest issue, rescuing him (sodding difficult and complicated I'm guessing).

All ideas and suggestions as well as offers of help are welcome.  :thumbsup:

I like the idea of the SON-powered crawler robot.   8)
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Kim on October 04, 2015, 01:59:43 pm
So, stimulate your marvellously creative grey cells and devise a rescue plan, please.

I think someone's going to have to science the shit out of this...

 
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There are in essence three issues, getting to Dunnet (easy)

For certain values of.  This is *Scotland*.  Anything could happen.


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locating M. LeBaton (might be tricky)

I'm sure Jen could draw a map.  Then it's standard geocaching tactics:  "Where would I hide something?" "Where are the nastiest nettles?" etc.


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All ideas and suggestions as well as offers of help are welcome.  :thumbsup:

I think it would be relatively straightforward to construct a convincing forgery.  Just saying...   :demon:
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: clarion on October 04, 2015, 02:25:38 pm
Why did no one think to put a GPS tag in LeBaton?

*sigh* :(
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: T42 on October 04, 2015, 03:20:05 pm
It'd be nice if it managed to qualify for PBP 2019.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: mattc on October 04, 2015, 03:30:14 pm
So, stimulate your marvellously creative grey cells and devise a rescue plan, please.

I think someone's going to have to science the shit out of this...

Does it float?
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Torslanda on October 04, 2015, 03:40:47 pm
Pardon my ignorance, why was it left there?
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Polar Bear on October 04, 2015, 03:47:25 pm
Best to look at the other thread for that Torslanda.   I'm hoping to keep creative minds on a rescue in here please.   :D   :thumbsup:

<edit>

For those interested in the history the story unfolds here (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=40429.msg1892533#msg1892533).   I'm only interested in the rescue in this thread as that's far more interesting.   8)
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Basil on October 04, 2015, 04:07:36 pm
You're going to need something like an endoscope equipped with a camera, light and lasso.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Polar Bear on October 04, 2015, 04:11:33 pm
A lot depends upon how far down and how restricted the hole is that LeBaton is sleeping in.   

The job may require a recce mission and then an extraction.   Very military...   
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: LeBaton on October 04, 2015, 04:44:54 pm
<sings quietly>

o/~ Some-where, o-ver the rainbow....
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Polar Bear on October 04, 2015, 04:49:51 pm
Sing up a bit.   It might help us find you.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 04, 2015, 07:12:24 pm
I'm thinking of one of those long grab sticks with claws on the end, but the problem is how to operate it remotely.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Tewdric on October 04, 2015, 07:14:34 pm
Now can we think of anyone who can do dry stonewalls in the north west of England....
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: tom_e on October 04, 2015, 07:52:13 pm
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All ideas and suggestions as well as offers of help are welcome.  :thumbsup:

I think it would be relatively straightforward to construct a convincing forgery.  Just saying...   :demon:

Was my first thought; it'd probably be quicker and cheaper than the return trip to Dunnet Head.

However, this raising of a ceremonial successor to the baton has already taken place.  Ruthie has forged the spiritual phoenix of the Baton, regardless of its exact resting place.  The practical task is done, and the little red book will travel on in its place.  The Baton itself is now a historical artifact, or a legendary icon of sorts. 

I would suggest that if it were to be found it should be treated with the utmost respect and reverence.  It has lived a great journey, travelling North in bursts of great speed and energy.  Then it has found a resting place after its pilgrimage.  To pluck it from there and then break the rules would be akin to grave-smashing.  One would not pluck the sword from the stone and then put it in the recycling.  One would not rescue a fine bike from the tip and then fit it with the components of a BSO.  So the baton should not be disrespected; after its journey and long rest, if it is found then it must surely roll on by pedals alone.  Otherwise it would be better to stay, sleeping in glorious memory.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: nikki on October 04, 2015, 08:23:03 pm
I'm thinking of one of those long grab sticks with claws on the end, but the problem is how to operate it remotely.

A lot depends upon how far down and how restricted the hole is that LeBaton is sleeping in. 

You're going to need something like an endoscope equipped with a camera, light and lasso.

etc...

Far be it from me to under-complicate matters, but, erm, dry stone walls aren't usually cavity style, are they? Besides, that wall in the photos on the other thread (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=40429.msg1898810#msg1898810) looks like it's got a pretty well sealed cap along the top.

Is it possible the baton's just wodged horizontally into a gap from the side rather than dropped into a vertical chasm?
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 04, 2015, 08:32:06 pm
Ah – I was thinking it had been wedged into a crevice in a cliff!
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: iddu on October 18, 2015, 12:14:43 am
Bookmarks; I was certainly planning on The Hunting of the SnarkLe Baton following helping on Mark's little jaunt.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: David Martin on October 18, 2015, 08:59:47 pm
It has a small brass plaque on. Would this help with appropriate detection?
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Polar Bear on October 18, 2015, 09:30:28 pm
I discussed the matter of LeBaton's resting place with JenM at Dufton.   It would appear that once slid into a gap between stones LeBaton dropped with a thud inside the wall indicating that there is some some of gap there.   

I think this complicates rescue somewhat. 
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: iddu on October 18, 2015, 11:27:19 pm
Quite

From http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-g7USDjpmfqI/U9vuUusmQ_I/AAAAAAAAECI/Z8XMnIW_bTk/s1600/Scotland+July+2014+027.JPG

(http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r200/iddu/20151018-misc/dh_zpsdm7eksgy.jpg)

looks to be soft infilled internally (presumably missing at last resting place).

Gonna be fun, without double-jointed wrist... ::-)
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Kim on October 18, 2015, 11:31:29 pm
So... inspection camera with a gear cable lasso upgrade?
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: iddu on October 19, 2015, 12:06:36 am
So... inspection camera with a gear cable lasso upgrade?

Could (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-5m-5-5mm-Mini-Handheld-Digital-USB-Endoscope-Flexible-Inspection-Camera-1N9O-/262006055632?hash=item3d00c722d0:g:ZKAAAOSwd0BVzs2I) be worth a punt; means getting a laptop up there thobut'
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Torslanda on October 19, 2015, 12:14:55 am
Excellent spot. I'm ordering one so i can inspect frames for crash damage or corrosion.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Polar Bear on October 19, 2015, 06:49:00 am
Excellent.  Just need one that will work with a mobile phone or tablet.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: iddu on October 19, 2015, 09:20:22 am
On order; worry about (portable) driver device closer to time.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Polar Bear on October 19, 2015, 09:32:18 am
A quick google reveals plenty of android compatible versions.   

This could become exciting...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Ruthie on October 19, 2015, 09:45:25 am
https://youtu.be/9p0BqUcQ7i0

Mission Impossible?
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: iddu on October 19, 2015, 06:26:01 pm
Naw, we just need to get wearer of The Musky Reindeer Pelt of Destiny to model the Yellow Thong Of Ambition...

What could possibly stand against such joining of superpowers  ;D
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: iddu on February 14, 2016, 08:52:06 pm
Stay strong, Monsieur

Right - couple days sorting out nutters at Trantlebeg, then off Hunting the SnarkLeBaton...
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Pingu on February 14, 2016, 10:43:39 pm
Bon chance  :)
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Pedaldog on February 15, 2016, 01:25:02 am
I am up for this one, should it be revised. Based in Lancaster but happy to do 25 miles to collect and 25 to deliver, example of pick up in Kendal and drop off in Preston, Clitheroe, Clapham or similar. if somebody coul get it to Lancaster I could probably drop it with woolly and Peli' in Skipton.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: iddu on July 26, 2019, 04:50:38 pm
<sings quietly>

o/~ Some-where, o-ver the rainbow....

<LeBaton>Baise-moi, où étais-tu?</LeBaton>
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Canardly on July 26, 2019, 05:19:23 pm
Re reading the thread. The last time I saw the baton the brass plaque was missing.
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: LeBaton on July 27, 2019, 08:29:47 am
<sings quietly>

o/~ Some-where, o-ver the rainbow....

<LeBaton>Baise-moi, où étais-tu?</LeBaton>


Ici mon brave! Ici!!!
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: arabella on July 27, 2019, 04:34:19 pm
Supposing we, er, reincarnate lebaton, could it perhaps, in a Dr who sort of way, return as mme labatonne?
(will also tick the diversity box of avoiding the 'default male')
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: iddu on August 02, 2019, 11:11:54 pm
Well, was a long time coming, and needed to SCIENCE

(https://i.imgur.com/WG6rmbq.jpg)
string the fook outta the search (knotted every 5m), but eventually on the 2nd pass

(https://i.imgur.com/GjnCGzZ.jpg)
RESULT!  The poor lad had been stuck for years, behind the triangular peice just above; it's a good job that was infilled, because had it fallen into a void like

(https://i.imgur.com/wDNZDkJ.jpg)
there'd have been no hope.

After a HAPPY DANCE, we
(https://i.imgur.com/XHlCluZ.jpg)
saddled up and legged it to...
https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=40429.1264 (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=40429.1264)






Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Jaded on August 03, 2019, 12:55:13 am
Astounding!

Which way south are you going, East, or West?
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on August 03, 2019, 05:40:24 am
Chapeau!
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Blade on August 03, 2019, 05:59:27 am
Well done. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: LeBaton on August 03, 2019, 07:30:24 am
And you know how we continentals show our thanks!

Mmmm.....wah! Mmmm.....wah!
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on August 03, 2019, 08:26:03 am
 :thumbsup: :D
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: mattc on August 03, 2019, 08:29:45 am
I think this is the most astonishing bike-based mission I have ever read (let alone known the antagonists). But it may also be the most obscure/niche thing that I could possibly have to explain to a member of the public  :facepalm:

Good work iddu!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Canardly on August 03, 2019, 10:15:44 am
Well done Iddu, Chapeau.
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: Wowbagger on August 03, 2019, 10:28:34 am
That is wonderful! I take it that you have taken it to John O'Groats now? It's just over 4 years since it was last seen.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11753283_1466191047033433_2709579699257436102_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_oc=AQnbmxquLws4N-CdVA50HisaQ3ad9Knk8W7iP78sa3M5qTRU6Ng6p6N--xaqvUdxd7g&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr3-1.xx&oh=e03db9db0c1ac3c4c5f0db243aebe98b&oe=5DECB86B)
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: vorsprung on August 03, 2019, 12:04:09 pm
An incredible story!
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: mattc on August 03, 2019, 01:33:42 pm
@iddu: is there really a 24x7 caff at Dunnet Head now?
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: jsabine on August 03, 2019, 03:34:08 pm
the most obscure/niche thing that I could possibly have to explain to a member of the public  :facepalm:

More of a crevice, I thought
Title: Re: Liberating LeBaton
Post by: iddu on August 03, 2019, 08:59:46 pm
@iddu: is there really a 24x7 caff at Dunnet Head now?

If you carry your own supplies, yes.

There’s a cafe at Windhaven, but it’s not 24/7.