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Title: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 26, 2015, 06:39:11 am
At the request of the MEMWNS Founding Fathers, this is a thread for reports and other important nonsense, leaving the main thread free for planning  :thumbsup:

It won't catch on but it should avoid a doctrinal schism between the traditional believers and the new heretics in advance of epiphany.

I didn't make it out last night which sounds as if it was just as well as I wouldn't have caught the departure at Spa and the peloton was then 45 minutes late at the King Billy.  No doubt DL will be along shortly with a picture of a pint of beer and a detailed report on Sister Carol's puncture fun.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on November 26, 2015, 08:31:05 am
Thanks for getting us set up Ted it's nice to get our right to free speech back  :o  :thumbsup:

Indeed another healthy peloton was formed at Spa upon my arrival with Huggy, OD, Andy (aka Hustler/Quaffer), SSN Giles Gavin and Sister Carol who was mid puncture change! We set off with Sister Carol's words about tyre's not lasting longer than 20 miles ringing in our ears........

Just a short way along the Terling Road the super fast Kiwi that is Tippers emerged from the darkness to latch onto the back of the peloton and not too much further on from this on the approach into Terling our Sister picked up another puncture on his expensive Italian Stallions...... look great but not up to the job!!

Here my oil rig lighting system came into their own as I provided ample light as the tyre change took place which wasn't any old tyre change as OD carrying everything including the kitchen sink on Fred produced a rather better rear tyre replacement for SC  :thumbsup:
After most cars coming up to us stopping no doubt down to my OTT lighting and fluorescent Proviz gilet we were back under way with a rather angry OD  :demon: as we were 30 mins behind schedule having let Mr Gore himself know.

As we turned towards the ford in Terling OD's night got even better as our Sister announced he was heading straight to the pub and not partaking in a bit of COR Flitch Way action  :'(

Things were going pretty well as we swept up Tomsk and Jiber aka Mr Gore who much to Ted's delight was fully branded up in the stuff which hurt poor OD's eyes  ::-) onto the FW we went to partake in a bit of CX with mud flying up everywhere and then kindly Jiber had stopped at the front of the peloton to make us aware of a branch that had fallen across the path.
Most sensible types got off and lifted their bikes over but I decided a bunny hop would be sufficient and attempted this which ended in epic fail as the rear wheel refused to follow the front  :-[

Finally we arrived at the Billy where we stubled across Sister Carol and the Danbury Dogger. We sampled some of the home brew from the onsite micro brewery Moody Goose first up Stark Mild followed by Brainstormer and then one other that I can't remember.

Another super evening as always  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on November 26, 2015, 10:08:41 am
I did indeed forget to add that SSN's choice of attire last night was more July than November..... Fingerless gloves and shorts
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 26, 2015, 11:34:41 am
I see that OD has put up a duplicate report on the planning thread.

At his age he's easily confused I suppose.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Kim on November 26, 2015, 11:41:15 am
At the request of the MEMWNS Founding Fathers, this is a thread for reports and other important nonsense, leaving the main thread free for planning  :thumbsup:

What's a MEMWNS?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 26, 2015, 11:46:30 am
Mid Essex Mid Week Nocturnal Series - offspring of the long-running thread.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Kim on November 26, 2015, 11:50:00 am
Mid Essex Mid Week Nocturnal Series - offspring of the long-running thread.

Ah!  Brain fade...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on November 26, 2015, 12:17:56 pm
Where do we post off-topic, pointless questions?

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 26, 2015, 12:20:12 pm
Welcome to the dark side.  There is no such thing as a silly question here.

You are amongst friends now.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on November 26, 2015, 12:20:56 pm
Is there a MEMWNS meta-discussions thread?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on November 26, 2015, 12:21:25 pm

I see that OD has put up a duplicate report on the planning thread.

At his age he's easily confused I suppose.

It certainly looks that way Ted......
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on November 26, 2015, 12:22:06 pm

Is there a MEMWNS meta-discussions thread?

Not as yet I guess it depends on whether this one gets vetoed or not!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 26, 2015, 12:22:52 pm
Is there a MEMWNS meta-discussions thread?

Navel gazing is always fun.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: TimC on November 26, 2015, 02:03:06 pm

Is there a MEMWNS meta-discussions thread?

Not as yet I guess it depends on whether this one gets vetoed or not!

Surely a 'MEMWNS thread for topics that don't justify a thread of their own'?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on November 26, 2015, 02:11:33 pm
Maybe we need a MEMWNS board.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 26, 2015, 02:15:08 pm
That would be fun to moderate  ::-)

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on November 26, 2015, 02:41:51 pm
Is this anarchy breaking out??? 

 ;D

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 26, 2015, 02:44:29 pm
vive la revolution.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on November 26, 2015, 02:45:31 pm
Is this anarchy breaking out??? 

 ;D

I think we're just following orders m'lord.....   :-X
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 26, 2015, 02:46:19 pm
Yeah, watch out the big boss is here.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on November 26, 2015, 06:25:12 pm
One of Mrs Tippers family members going great guns. Mr Joe Holt...CLICKY (https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/gbcyclingteam/article/20151126-gb-cyclingteam-news-Clancy-withdraws-from-UCI-Track-Cycling-World-Cup-squad-0)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on November 26, 2015, 07:28:37 pm
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on November 26, 2015, 07:36:38 pm
One of Mrs Tippers family members going great guns. Mr Joe Holt...CLICKY (https://www.britishcycling.org.uk/gbcyclingteam/article/20151126-gb-cyclingteam-news-Clancy-withdraws-from-UCI-Track-Cycling-World-Cup-squad-0)

 :thumbsup: too
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on November 26, 2015, 08:23:19 pm
We will all be candidates after Jan 13th ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on November 26, 2015, 08:34:34 pm
Another bloody Essex thread!!
just another couple of Essex threads and we'll have a whole page to keep at the top of the recently updated  :D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on November 27, 2015, 12:15:33 am
Splitters.......
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 27, 2015, 09:14:15 am
On the subject of challenges for next year...does anyone use untappd ?  It is basically strava for real ale.

500 different beers in 12 months seems like a decent target  :thumbsup:

We can fit SRs, the BCM, OD's stalkathon etc round that as time allows.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on November 27, 2015, 09:37:15 am
On the subject of challenges for next year...does anyone use untappd ?  It is basically strava for real ale.

500 different beers in 12 months seems like a decent target  :thumbsup:

We can fit SRs, the BCM, OD's stalkathon etc round that as time allows.

I used it for a bit while I was in the US.  Didn't think to use it here... hmmm...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on November 27, 2015, 10:07:03 am
I've now got Untappd on my phone, good suggestion ted.  It's like grown up trainspotting (I used to enjoy trainspotting).
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on November 27, 2015, 11:33:47 am
I popped into Condor yesterday, just because I was in the area, and now they're trying to sell me one of these ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_0029_zpshxthb971.jpg)

I was stupid enough to give them my email address (and mobile number  ::-)  ) so they've just sent me a quote - £1600 including a frame fitting.  Given my profession you'd think I'd know better than to divulge contact details.

Mind you, it's a beautiful, beautiful bike.  I think I'd call her Fanny.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on November 27, 2015, 11:37:19 am
Forget the profession and contact details...I thought you would know better than to 'pop' into Condor
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on November 27, 2015, 11:50:38 am
Forget the profession and contact details...I thought you would know better than to 'pop' into Condor

I know, I know.

I've never really got on with the Condor folks, I've previously found them a bit snooty and off-hand.  However, yesterday they were really friendly and helpful.  I'm doomed.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on November 27, 2015, 12:55:30 pm
Er, probably not the best looking fanny I've ever seen!  :facepalm:


But if it has all the kit in the photo that's an amazing deal, they are very good bikes, common as muck though.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 27, 2015, 01:25:21 pm
That is one handsome looking bike.

They always look very n+1 whenever you see them out and about.

I know we're all about Genesis here but (whisper it) they seem a bit of a step up.

You must resist - for a while at least.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on November 27, 2015, 01:30:34 pm
I know, I know.

I've never really got on with the Condor folks, I've previously found them a bit snooty and off-hand.  However, yesterday they were really friendly and helpful.  I'm doomed.

Don't do it OD.........!


I know we're all about Genesis here but (whisper it) they seem a bit of a step up.


As Ted said Genesis are the contracted new bike purchase of choice for Mid Essex so any deviations from this will cause the legal department huge problems and potentially result in a loss of a bike provider  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 27, 2015, 01:31:45 pm
And if you get a new fast bike who will keep me company at the back ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on November 27, 2015, 01:35:47 pm
And if you get a new fast bike who will keep me company at the back ?

Despite drooling over Parlees and Storcks I will keep to the contract Ted and look at a Day One disc or Flyer so as not to upset the sponsors........
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on November 27, 2015, 01:47:16 pm
If any of you are in the City/Square Mile area of that London and fancy looking at some #bikeporn pop into the Gresham Street store for these guys www.bespokecycling.com (http://www.bespokecycling.com)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on November 27, 2015, 04:43:08 pm
You must resist - for a while at least.

The bit that gets me is what would I do with Son of Oscar the Ribble?  I can't stand waste and the thought of him sat in the garage doing nothing would grieve me something cruel.  This is why Claud the roadified MTB and Arthur the folding Dahon got donated to a bikes for Africa project as I couldn't bear the thought of them just gathering dust.

As it is once the novelty of Fred has worn off I will be wheeling SoO out when a lighter bike is required but Fanny the Fratelo would do exactly the same job.  That said if any knows of a good home for SoO please let me know.  I'm not bothered about selling him, I would just want to be sure he was getting ridden regularly.

And if you get a new fast bike who will keep me company at the back ?

I'm going to make a conscious effort to spend more time at the back.  I've no idea why I seem to gravitate to the front more often than I think is healthy.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 27, 2015, 06:45:28 pm
It's a lot of fun at the back.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on November 27, 2015, 06:57:16 pm
It's a lot of fun at the back.

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on November 28, 2015, 09:11:10 am
The rest of the world has noticed we're trying to dominate them!  CLICKY. (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=94476.0)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 28, 2015, 09:13:40 am
We are very dominant people.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on November 28, 2015, 09:24:38 am
We are very dominant people.

It's all you and DL's fault  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 28, 2015, 09:25:58 am
Most things are but we like our new home and it does mean the old thread can be kept clear for (not advanced) planning. 
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on November 28, 2015, 09:40:49 am
I think we need another thread, to keep the original thread clear of gratuitous forward planning.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on November 28, 2015, 10:06:34 am
What do we all think about the suggestion that there should be a dedicated mid-Essex board?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Ruthie on November 28, 2015, 10:18:45 am
If you had a dedicated board I'd be most unlikely to look at it, whereas at the moment I often stalk you all to see what they're doing in Forrin.

Splitters.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on November 28, 2015, 10:23:59 am
If you had a dedicated board I'd be most unlikely to look at it, whereas at the moment I often stalk you all to see what they're doing in Forrin.

Splitters.

 ;D

You must come down and see us all  :-*
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on November 28, 2015, 02:00:01 pm
Wot I put on the Essex Taking over the World topic:

Quote from: Oscar's dad on Today at 09:35:05 am

'...we all meet up regularly, our relationships with each other isn't largely virtual... yacf, in our world, is a massive force for good.'

Yes, indeed, and a very useful tool for me as an AUK organiser, which is why I'm more than happy to make my small monthly contribution to the funds.

I've no objection to a sub-board, though fwiw.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on November 29, 2015, 12:13:51 pm
I caught the last bit of the Revolution series last night.  One of the Wiggins riders - Owain  Duill?  - was riding a 110" gear in the Madison.   If that is an option at the National Velodrome I nominate Tomsk and the BFC. 
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on November 29, 2015, 06:05:45 pm
I think a sub-board would be interesting, but I quite like it all in one thread - less to hunt down or miss in that format... suspect a sub-forum will be a great idea as the nights draw in, and less so when its sunny out there again :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 02, 2015, 11:14:46 am
So, we are now looking at a Mid Essex Audax Thread (MEAT) on the audax board  :o

This could be a good place to plan our campaign for BCM, run a roll call for Santa Special and events to follow and generally keep the planning and reporting threads on this board free for the important things like beer, bitching and (occasionally) bikes. 

Huggy, the rest of us are in enough trouble for starting new threads, over to you to start MEAT.... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 02, 2015, 11:26:52 am
So, we are now looking at a Mid Essex Audax Thread (MEAT) on the audax board  :o

This could be a good place to plan our campaign for BCM, run a roll call for Santa Special and events to follow and generally keep the planning and reporting threads on this board free for the important things like beer, bitching and (occasionally) bikes. 

Huggy, the rest of us are in enough trouble for starting new threads, over to you to start MEAT.... :thumbsup:

That way Huggy, OD can provide you with loads of abuse about being a splitter.....  :o even though it was down to him that the split happened  ::-)  :P
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 02, 2015, 12:41:55 pm
History isn't my big thing but I think DL and ted are a bit like Henry VIII taking England away from Rome and forming the CoE just because they couldn't take a bit of constructive feedback  ;D

I bet old Henry wasn't beyond a bit of dogging!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 03, 2015, 08:08:14 am
Despite some of our regulars being unavailable we still managed to muster 6 machines on the road last night - me, huggy, bobb, Beer Fueled Commuter, AndyC33 and Tomsk.

Keen to pursue my new policy of sitting at the back chatting I requested a gentlemanly pace, a request that was largely ignored.  I did manage some chatting interspersed with grabbing large lungfuls of air!  The weather was unseasonably mild and jiber's route went down well.

Once we got to the Woolie we lied about us all being CAMRA members so were granted access to their mini-beer fest.  jibers and his lovely WAG Josie soon rocked up and a most convivial evening commenced.

The Witham peloton took a direct route back which saw us returning home on a Wednesday.

Although I say so myself I'm rather pleased with my new Christmas jumper cycling jersey ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/FullSizeRender_zpsyntwwwz3.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 03, 2015, 08:13:36 am
History isn't my big thing but I think DL and ted are a bit like Henry VIII taking England away from Rome and forming the CoE just because they couldn't take a bit of constructive feedback  ;D

I bet old Henry wasn't beyond a bit of dogging!


I can certainly see you in the Cardinal Wolsey role.  You share extravagant and avant garde dress sense but also a desire to cling on to traditional ways when the world is changing around you.

If DL is Henry VIII, I will be Lord Chancellor Richard Rich, of course.   Tomsk is Thomas More, Huggy is Cromwell and in a weirdly anachronistic turn, Tippers is Friar Tuck  ;D

Time to get dissolving.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 03, 2015, 08:15:04 am
What about The Hustler?
Not sure Jiber would approve of the non matching arm wear......
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 03, 2015, 08:25:18 am
Time to get dissolving.

Oh I wish you hadn't said that  ::-)  Oaky will be along in a minute to explain (again!) how dissolving solids in a mug of hot water changes the note when said mug is tapped with a spoon.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 03, 2015, 08:27:33 am
Hustler, Bishop Fisher.

I am sure there are a number of things that our very own Beau Brummell did not approve of in relation to OD's outfit.  He really does push the boundaries of avant garde, if such a thing is even possible.

I hope to return to the back of the peloton shortly to keep my new companion OD happy. It will be good to have someone to converse with about the Church's 16th century schism with Rome, transubstantiation, the Reformation and the like  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 03, 2015, 08:58:21 am
Over the coming dark months there'll be no need to bore each other senseless with tales of previous daring doings or plans for the future involving the ECEing of some obscure audax whose faintly amusing name tries to convince prospective riders that hooning through the night only to grab forty winks in the windy corner of a petrol station forecourt is fun - Type 2 or otherwise.

Instead ted will be delivering some short lectures on exactly who Bishop Fisher, Richard Rich etc are and how they relate to recent events plus  members of the MEMWNS peloton.  ted you'll get bonus points if you can incorporate mime and finger puppets into your deliveries.

Of course Tomsk can fall asleep at the back as he knows all this stuff already.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on December 03, 2015, 09:00:44 am
^  ;D

...Tomsk is Thomas More...

Yes indeed, that's me, A Man for All Seasons.

Now all we need are six WAGs, and a man with a very large axe...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 03, 2015, 09:03:26 am
Of course Tomsk can fall asleep at the back as he knows all this stuff already.

See, told you ...

^  ;D

...Tomsk is Thomas More...

Yes indeed, that's me, A Man for All Seasons.

Now all we need are six WAGs, and a man with a very large axe...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 03, 2015, 09:12:44 am
Hang on, who was it who started the Henry VIII guff ?

Usual suspect of course.

I am happier discoursing on beer, bikes and boats.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 03, 2015, 09:24:50 am
I am happier discoursing on beer, bikes and boats.

You're being way too modest, there's soooo much more you could give  ;D 

Last night The Compasses quiz night on Wednesday 16th was discussed and it decided we should enter at least one team given we have so many clever people to hand.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 03, 2015, 10:44:36 am
I can see us doing well in the round on what happens to liquids when you dissolve solids, there's always a round on that at pub quizzes.

Beau Brummell can cover fashion and Middlesbrough FC (as distinct from sport).

The Hustler will do the Jarrow March and fair trade coconut oil, again banker rounds.

You will obviously do Yohji Yamamoto.

Not sure what the rest of us will be bringing to the table though.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 03, 2015, 10:49:23 am
You will obviously do Yohji Yamamoto.

I will?  :o

Isn't Yohji Yamamoto a brand of car tyre?  I'm sure I saw the name on hoardings at the Japanese Gran Prix.  I was watching on the telly, unlike Oaky I haven't been further east than Harwich - or was it Lowestoft?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 03, 2015, 10:52:12 am
^^^^ probably best you don't do the geography round  ::-)

Will there be a round on the goings on at Hurrells do we think....? We should be well covered there with the Danbury dogger and all the interest you guys currently hold in it  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 03, 2015, 10:59:46 am
I don't know a lot about pub quizzes but it's Essex so it's almost certainly a legal requirement that there is a dogging round.

A chance for you to shine.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 03, 2015, 11:03:56 am
I don't know a lot about pub quizzes but it's Essex so it's almost certainly a legal requirement that there is a dogging round.

A chance for you to shine.

I merely use the name old chap it's other members of this parish that hold all the knowledge about it  :-\  :o  ::-)  :-[
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 03, 2015, 11:20:35 am
I don't know a lot about pub quizzes but it's Essex so it's almost certainly a legal requirement that there is a dogging round.

A chance for you to shine.

I merely use the name old chap it's other members of this parish that hold all the knowledge about it  :-\  :o  ::-)  :-[

That is a flagrant and despicable lie!  Was it not you who did some on-line research and found out that Dogger's Lane was favoured by gay and transsexual doggers and all the activity went on in the parked vans as opposed to in the nature reserve as we originally suspected???
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 03, 2015, 11:24:31 am
That is a flagrant and despicable lie!  Was it not you who did some on-line research and found out that Dogger's Lane was favoured by gay and transsexual doggers and all the activity went on in the parked vans as opposed to in the nature reserve as we originally suspected???

I can indeed confirm that I established that HL is the TV dogging capital of Essex, the van thing was merely an observation whilst riding past, I believe it was you that suggested that the nature reserve was involved......  ::-)

Since then I have left it to other members to regularly bring up HL  O:-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 03, 2015, 11:32:20 am
Lies.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 03, 2015, 11:36:15 am
Lies.

Got any evidence...  ::-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 03, 2015, 12:12:13 pm
You two are fascinated by it.

At least I know what you talk about at the front of the peloton now.

The Hustler and I (when he slows down for me) discuss weightier matters like 1980s indie music.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 03, 2015, 12:35:35 pm
You two are fascinated by it.

At least I know what you talk about at the front of the peloton now.

The Hustler and I (when he slows down for me) discuss weightier matters like 1980s indie music.

I said they were more fascinated by it than me thanks Ted  :thumbsup: does he give you tips on riding fixed and what the best courier bags are that you can buy?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 03, 2015, 12:41:26 pm
The BFC is my fixed guru.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 03, 2015, 12:53:57 pm
The BFC is my fixed guru.



Of course he is silly me, shouldn't it be Tomsk though  ::-) (just thinking back to his rapid departure down Market Hill the other week)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 03, 2015, 01:37:10 pm
Yebbut, yebbut he's got disc brakes.

Oh, and he's much better than I am at riding bikes, that probably helps too.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 10, 2015, 09:24:26 am
In the absense (again) of ted and his little friend Doggers Lane it falls to me I suppose to report on last night's ride.

Myself, bobb, Beer Fueled Commuter, young squrrelly chap (who had lights and gloves  :thumbsup: ), huggy plus Oaky set off from the Spa Road roundabout accompanied by festive tunz from the new and improved Carradice Bluetooth sound system.

The weather was colder, sub 10degs, but still unseasonably warm.  TMNH was conquered and the tunz turned off (one can have too much of a good thing).  Between the Hanningfields the peloton split with myself and huggy bringing up the rear, apparently I was being slow.  We briefly sighted bobb but never caught him and then he pressed on homewards.

Myself and huggy finally got to The Wheatsheaf to find the rest of the crew and jibers who had been there for some time.  Tomsk was there too.  The pi55 had clearly been ripped prior to my arrival as after I had wrestled the Magic Bag Midi TM through the door one of the locals said to me "Oh hello, you're the slow one are you?"

Given that Andy C33 wasn't with us either an impromptu kitty was organised and huggy elected himself Beer Bitch.  huggy has also come up with a Good Idea TM, I'll let him explain, it has been noted in The Little Book of Big Ideas.

After a couple of tasty pints (can't remember what they were called) I headed for the train station  :thumbsup:

Last night saw Fred achieve his first 1000 miles - good lad.

All in all a very nice evening.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 10, 2015, 09:55:01 am
I would only have slowed you down further.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 10, 2015, 10:07:28 am
I would only have slowed you down further.

Don't worry, it's difficult to chat whilst puffed out!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 10, 2015, 10:28:55 am
I will see if I can get out next week but it doesn't look likely.  Too many off sites and too much man flu  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 10, 2015, 10:45:18 am
I will see if I can get out next week but it doesn't look likely.  Too many off sites and too much man flu  :facepalm:

It's the quiz next Wednesday - we'll need you.  You're allowed to come by car.  I'll bring you a flash of Lemsip.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 10, 2015, 11:17:50 am
It's the quiz next Wednesday - we'll need you.  You're allowed to come by car.  I'll bring you a flash of Lemsip.

Will he bring much to the table though........  ???
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 10, 2015, 11:23:42 am

 You're allowed to come by car. 

Coming by car, going home by train.  What is MEMWNS coming to when the godfather has let his personal standards drop so far.

Perhaps, after Xmas, Tomsk could lead you through an intensive course of behavioural therapy based around the true meaning of MEMWNS.  It could be your personal epiphany  O:-)

I doubt the quiz team will be any stronger or weaker whether I make it or not.  I have a sneaking suspicion that it is already a fairly formidable prospect.  If enough people pitch up at Spa you could even have A and B teams.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 10, 2015, 11:26:58 am

Coming by car, going home by train.  What is MEMWNS coming to when the godfather has let his personal standards drop so far.


It's sad times unfortunately nowadays Ted with these train journeys and the encouragement of travelling to from said venues by motor assisted transport.....  ::-) although we are yet to have it denied that Fred has a motor fitted somewhere  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 10, 2015, 11:28:54 am
It's the quiz next Wednesday - we'll need you.  You're allowed to come by car.  I'll bring you a flash of Lemsip.

Will he bring much to the table though........  ???

I think he will, we all will!  You'll bring your encyclopaedic knowledge of dogging even though you're now pretending you aren't the expert you formally claimed to be  ;D

Anyhow, where were you last night?  Are you going to improve on your rabbit hutch excuse?  I don't like it when you're not with us as our "friends" naturally gravitate to taking the piss out of me when there isn't a readily available alternative - like you.  I don't mind them taking the piss out of me but I'm such an easy target so taking the piss isn't very challenging - it makes them lazy.  You provide some much needed variety.  It's a bit like feeding lions in safari parks, if you simply chuck a dead horse down in front of them it ultimately does said lions no good at all.  Much better to cut the dead horse up into tiny pieces and hide the bits up trees and stuff.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 10, 2015, 11:32:54 am

 You're allowed to come by car. 
Coming by car, going home by train.  What is MEMWNS coming to when the godfather has let his personal standards drop so far.

Perhaps, after Xmas, Tomsk could lead you through an intensive course of behavioural therapy based around the true meaning of MEMWNS.  It could be your personal epiphany  O:-)

Fear not, I guard my personal motivation jealously it is such a precious commodity, there is method to my perceived madness.  Come the New Year you might detect a change.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 10, 2015, 11:33:53 am

I think he will, we all will!  You'll bring your encyclopaedic knowledge of dogging even though you're now pretending you aren't the expert you formally claimed to be  ;D

Anyhow, where were you last night?  Are you going to improve on your rabbit hutch excuse?  I don't like it when you're not with us as our "friends" naturally gravitate to taking the piss out of me when there isn't a readily available alternative - like you.  I don't mind them taking the piss out of me but I'm such an easy target so taking the piss isn't very challenging - it makes them lazy.  You provide some much needed variety.  It's a bit like feeding lions in safari parks, if you simply chuck a dead horse down in front of them it ultimately does said lions no good at all.  Much better to cut the dead horse up into tiny pieces and hide the bits up trees and stuff.

As I believe I have mentioned on these pages before, it appears that others of this parish are more fascinated by doggers Hurrell Lane as regularly routing us down there proves - I avoid it like the plague  O:-)

I was somewhat put off by the mention of a train journey home last night  :facepalm: and didn't fancy a potential trip back from Chelmo on me jack jones so decided to watch the Apprentice instead  ;D

It must of been a tough night for you without myself and The Hustler to abuse.....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 10, 2015, 11:35:55 am
Like I said, you, ted and the grudging Beer Bitch were missed.  Anyhow, I must get on with some work ...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 10, 2015, 11:37:22 am
Like I said, you, ted and the grudging Beer Bitch were missed.  Anyhow, I must get on with some work ...

Always nice to hear   :-*
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 10, 2015, 12:24:49 pm
I think he means an off site with a customer.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on December 10, 2015, 12:29:16 pm
I was somewhat put off by the mention of a train journey home last night  :facepalm: and didn't fancy a potential trip back from Chelmo on me jack jones so decided to watch the Apprentice instead  ;D
It was only OD that left early to give his overworked liver a rest and his underused legs a rest from Chelmsford to Witham on the train.  Four of us cycled all the way home to Witham  :smug:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 10, 2015, 12:33:44 pm
Tomsk probably went home via Ipswich just to stretch his legs a bit and make OD feel even worse about bailing.

I am finding it very easy to comment on the laziness of others when I haven't even managed to get out on a Wednesday night for weeks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on December 10, 2015, 01:37:26 pm
Another great night, after not having any rear stopping for the last 15 miles part of my ride last night I investigated and replaced the pads - noticed the disc looked warped, took it off, its pancake flat... I can only assume the 'buckle' sensation must be a bent spindle now.... not come across one of those since I was a kid!

I guess the question is do I get a new rear wheel or try and source a new QR spindle?!? (I have mentioned how much I hate cone bearing adjustment! LOL)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 10, 2015, 02:56:44 pm
Yeah, don't repair stuff. Replace it.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 10, 2015, 03:11:50 pm
And just in case any of you think I was kidding when I said me and Fred were getting the train home last night and in reality we beat Tomsk to Ipswich here is Fred atmospherically posing next to a bag of litter on a windswept Chelmsford railway station platform ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2382_zpscvq4js5d.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on December 10, 2015, 04:57:15 pm
^^^^^ were you disappointed not to receive a personal message from the driver?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on December 14, 2015, 02:00:04 pm
Right folks....Santa Special, I know a few of us are signed up for it.

Anyone else planning on riding up to Bentley?

I am planning on heading off from home around 6 so I can relax at the hall with breakfast before the off. Happy to meet along the way somewhere or at the hall.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 14, 2015, 02:06:16 pm
I am planning to ride up to Bentley.  It's not exactly far.  Mind you after having my first ride in two weeks yesterday, I might not be saying that on Sunday.

Switching to gears for this.  Is it a thing that when you go from fixed to gears your pedalling becomes a bit odd ?  For the first few miles yesterday it was almost as if I was missing a bit of the circle  :o



Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on December 14, 2015, 04:52:44 pm
I've not looked at the route, but I think I will be getting dropped off at Bentley...

In other news, new axel on rear hasn't fixed wheel, so I've been down the bike shop and we discovered 3 defects in the side wall and put the wheel on a stand and its very very slightly buckled... rear disc is bent also... so new disc to install tonight and swap over the Mondials for a spare set of Duranos.... it will be interesting to see what effect that has on the ride over to the PH on Wed.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 14, 2015, 05:19:21 pm
Excellent, you can go with the fast lot then.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on December 14, 2015, 05:54:58 pm
Switching to gears for this.  Is it a thing that when you go from fixed to gears your pedalling becomes a bit odd ?  For the first few miles yesterday it was almost as if I was missing a bit of the circle  :o


That's perfectly normal! Your legs get used to being pushed over the dead spot on fixed.

I think I shall drive to the start on Sunday. Bit worried about my knee which I twisted yesterday when I fell over. I thought the falling over thing would stop when I stopped drinking  :P
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 14, 2015, 06:01:55 pm
... I thought the falling over thing would stop when I stopped drinking  :P

Stopping drinking doesn't make you immune from gravity!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 14, 2015, 07:37:23 pm
Switching to gears for this.  Is it a thing that when you go from fixed to gears your pedalling becomes a bit odd ?  For the first few miles yesterday it was almost as if I was missing a bit of the circle  :o


That's perfectly normal! Your legs get used to being pushed over the dead spot on fixed.

I think I shall drive to the start on Sunday. Bit worried about my knee which I twisted yesterday when I fell over. I thought the falling over thing would stop when I stopped drinking  :P

Thank you.  You can be my deputy fixed guru.  I even got off the bike to check the bb  :facepalm:

I think I am beginning to prefer fixed overall.  Maybe a case of n-1 in the new year.

So, I think we have the following riding on Sunday:

1. me
2. Tippers
3. Bobb
4. Beau Brummell
5.the Hustler
6. Sister Carol
7. Doggers
8. Tomsk S Eliot

Looks like too many fast ones for my liking.  Bobb, I will be relying on your knee staying bad so that I can have some company.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 17, 2015, 07:14:27 am
Did you win last night?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 17, 2015, 07:34:11 am
According to Beau Brummell's Facebook feed, yes of course they did.  No doubt a full report will follow...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 17, 2015, 07:40:29 am
According to Beau Brummell's Facebook feed, yes of course they did.  No doubt a full report will follow...

Ah, I missed that.  Well done chaps!  Was there a section on dogging?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Christophe on December 17, 2015, 09:08:57 am
Did you win last night?

Is that a stupid question? Of course we did! can't quite remember the final score but we were clearly out of sight of the opposition. Feeling slightly jaded this morning....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 17, 2015, 09:54:27 am
Did you win last night?

Is that a stupid question? Of course we did! can't quite remember the final score but we were clearly out of sight of the opposition. Feeling slightly jaded this morning....

 ;D

Sorry I bailed out at the last minute but work was getting out of hand yesterday afternoon plus I too was feeling jaded after a work event (or "off site" as ted refers to them) on Tuesday.  I spent nearly £400 on booze and a bit of food, no idea what my colleagues spent and there weren't that many customers with us.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 17, 2015, 10:18:44 am
Oh by the way, on Tuesday night I was introduced to espresso martinis.  The vodka martinis were quite nice too.  If I find any MEMWNS pubs serving the above mentioned I shall be forsaking the beer and G&T ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2396_zps099lmm2g.jpg)
(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2398_zpsdl9pgvu9.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 17, 2015, 10:38:40 am
I like that you are embracing the new you - not so much beer and bikes but plenty of cocktails and swag.

Perhaps you are better suited to TOWIE than MEMWNS  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: fboab on December 17, 2015, 02:01:29 pm
1. me
2. Tippers
3. Bobb
4. Beau Brummell
5.the Hustler
6. Sister Carol
7. Doggers
8. Tomsk S Eliot

Should I be preparing an 'Essex Special' pickled eggs lunch for y'all?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on December 17, 2015, 11:40:12 pm
1. me
2. Tippers
3. Bobb
4. Beau Brummell
5.the Hustler
6. Sister Carol
7. Doggers
8. Tomsk S Eliot

Should I be preparing an 'Essex Special' pickled eggs lunch for y'all?
No!  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on December 18, 2015, 10:13:56 am
For some, the trauma of the 'Initiation Ceremony' is enough to put them off pickled eggs for life  ;D...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on December 18, 2015, 10:50:15 am
There were 3 chaps at the bar putting pickled eggs in crisp packets on Wednesday night, their crisp of choice was cheese & onion. No reason behind it, though they did say no point in using salt & vinegar as there is enough vinegar on the eggs already... horses for courses I guess!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 18, 2015, 02:09:16 pm
For some, the trauma of the 'Initiation Ceremony' is enough to put them off pickled eggs for life  ;D...

It's the flashbacks that keep the trauma alive  :P

With OD's retirement from audax (and, it appears, beer), we only really have Bobb representing the original Pickled Kings on Sunday.

Their love of pickled eggs has spread to an alarmingly high number of mid-essexers who actually seem to enjoy eating these monstrosities.  We also have a disproportionate number of marmite lovers. I am in neither camp, my audax weapon of choice being scotch eggs.

I think we all share an enjoyment of Essex energy drinks though and are certainly open to any offers on that line...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Wowbagger on December 18, 2015, 02:15:22 pm
Have you tried a pickled egg with marmite, Ted? Food for the dogs...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 18, 2015, 02:19:22 pm
I like my dogs though  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 18, 2015, 03:08:50 pm
On Tuesday evening I washed down a rather fine Scotch egg with my espresso Martini. The yolk was still runny and the sausage meat beautifully seasoned.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 18, 2015, 03:20:17 pm
That's the sort of bling scotch egg that I would expect a lover of cocktails to be eating.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 18, 2015, 03:23:18 pm
That's the sort of bling scotch egg that I would expect a lover of cocktails to be eating.

Stick with me kiddo and I'll cure you of your rough heathen ways  :-*
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 18, 2015, 03:35:27 pm
Actually, I have to confess I was drinking Porn Stars, mojitos and WooWoos last night.

In my defence there was no ale available at said premises.

I am not certain that Turkish restaurants are big on scotch eggs but had they been I am sure they would have been suitably bling.

You can think on us hooning up to Norfolk or wherever we are going on Sunday and living on ginsters and milk shakes as you sit drinking espresso martinis and eating freshly peeled grapes .
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 18, 2015, 03:39:32 pm
That's sounds lovely, do have fun.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 18, 2015, 03:49:49 pm
I'm not entirely sure I am in quite the same condition as I was 3 weeks ago  :facepalm:

It does look like nice weather though.

Back to shorts and knee warmers and long sleeve summer jerseys which is more like September than December.  We will think of you often as we speed through the lanes of Suffolk singing Carols and spreading good will to all people.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 18, 2015, 03:56:34 pm
We are spending the weekend with my mother, I imagine we will be drinking sherry.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 18, 2015, 03:57:18 pm
Who are you and what have you done with Oscar's Dad ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 18, 2015, 03:58:39 pm
 ;D

I suspect it will be getting worse before it gets better.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on December 18, 2015, 05:01:06 pm
That's the sort of bling scotch egg that I would expect a lover of cocktails to be eating.

It was probably a quail's egg in wild boar sausage meat with panko breadcrumbs.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: fboab on December 18, 2015, 05:45:28 pm
You can think on us hooning up to Norfolk or wherever we are going on Sunday and living on ginsters and milk shakes as you sit drinking espresso martinis and eating freshly peeled grapes .
Oi!
I can't do martinis but if peeled grapes are your thing...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on December 18, 2015, 05:58:18 pm
I've entered over-planning mode for Sunday...  :facepalm: separate GPX's for the 4 legs to avoid Garmin trying to tell me there is 200miles remaining (Colchester 100 experience there!)

Average speed for Essex Peloton anyone? 12 - 13 subject to headwind or will I be pushing the heady heights of 15 ?  Some of them lanes look awfully exposed from Halesworth onwards.... but on the bright side, weather improving all the time (just wish the wind would too!)  so I may be less 'Beau Brummell' than our usual nocturnal jaunts...

Suppose I will have to recalibrate my head in to KM for the next few days LOL
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 21, 2015, 07:06:50 am
The Essex peloton enjoyed a good ride on the Santa Special yesterday.

Danbury Dogger, his mate Steve, Bobb, the Hustler, Tippers Kiwi, Beau Brummell,  Sister Carol and I set off from Great Bromley with a nice tailwind at our backs on an unseasonably warm day.

The first control at Wickham Market arrived quickly as did the second in Halesworth.  Then we turned into the wind.

It is only 30km or so from Halesworth to Diss but with a deceptive upward gradient and and the wind, it felt much further.  The peloton soon splintered as the quicker riders and those with early season form surged ahead.

Fortunately, the control at Palgrave was an oasis of audax hospitality with Lindsey and Chris turning out a splendid spread. The soup was proper homemade loveliness and there was a great selection of savoury snacks to follow.  I think we probably just missed the promised peeled grapes :P

The next section to Sudbury covered that flat section of Norfolk into Suffolk that so many local rides cover.  It's great with the wind and a slog against it.  By this time the Danbury Dogger and mate had left us behind and we had dropped his brother who was uncharacteristically slow after a sleepless night. Our own Beau Brummell, who had made no effort with his appearance to the extent that he had not even accessorised, was often to be found at the front setting a strong pace.  Later we discovered that he had developed a bit of audax belly and was mainly jet propelled by his own gas, always pleasant for those behind.

Inevitably, we all controlled at McDonald's in Sudbury.  Some people (I am looking at you Bobb and Andy) start with great intentions of just having a healthy snack at the garage but 160 km in on a windy day it has to be a dirty Mac.  As we sat there savouring the unique dining experience, the heavens opened. By the time Tippers had finished his selection of menu items it was dry, good timing  :thumbsup:

The final leg was a proper Essex peloton ride.  The group stayed together and added anyone that wanted to join.  It was nice to see Jack who had joined us at Sleaford on the Flatlands.  Arrivee was reached in no time. 

Having refuelled with the splendid selection of food ( there was even a menu !), Tippers and I set off into the night for the ride home.  I am surprised that our bikes stayed upright we were going so slowly at any slightly upward gradients.

All in all a great day's riding and it was good to have the peloton out again, even with a few notable absentees.

Congratulations to Beau on becoming a randonneur and thank you to the controllers for looking after us so well.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 21, 2015, 07:24:21 am
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on December 21, 2015, 09:43:54 am
Well done chaps  :thumbsup:

I managed a mere 100km perm: by chance meeting JJ otp [Mr Juckes the randonneur not mini-Huggy] in his home village of Haslingfield. More than one rider in shorts was spotted; I was quite warm in 3/4, track mitts and l/s jersey.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Jack on December 21, 2015, 01:50:12 pm
It was nice to see Jack who had joined us at Sleaford on the Flatlands.

Thanks Ted. The Essex massive always improves my mood! It was a great end to the ride.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on December 21, 2015, 05:45:13 pm
There's a few team pics in the Santa thread:

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=94560.msg1961793#msg1961793

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on December 22, 2015, 04:25:38 pm
A cracking ride it was indeed.

For me it was the end of a long week on the bike. With close to 450 miles in the legs since the previous Saturday, a busy week of work and the outlaws in town it was always going to mean I would struggle. My little off the day before didn't exactly help either but it was more of an issue off the bike.

The group often pulled away from me but I kept at my measured effort pace happily, having done 2 solo DIY's recently it was not a huge issue. I was never alone for long though, various stops meant we always got back together. I begged for mercy on the last leg from Sudbury from Jiberjaber who was on a mission and my plea was noted and approved, until Ted decided someone was on his tail! ;D

Thanks to all for your bits of help on the day. JiberJaber for the tube (Tubeless......grrrrrrr :demon:), Ted for Towing me back to Peldon and everyone else for the company.

That ride got me to 54 miles off my 10k target which should hopefully mean it is all but in the bag. What a Cracking year.

Merry Christmas to you all!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on December 22, 2015, 04:44:25 pm
Tippers, well done on the mileage. 

I am still trying to repay all the tows that I had on the first couple of qualifiers earlier in the year.  It's not often I get the opportunity to tow someone as quick as you though.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on December 22, 2015, 04:58:15 pm
Yes Nik, 10k miles is a great achievement - well done!   :thumbsup:

I think all in all us MEMWNS crew have had a superb 2015.  Lots of banter, plenty of miles, much beer, some epic rides with the PBP obviously the most epic; plus some stellar achievements not least the fact that everyone of us who started the PBP actually finished it!  Above all we've had some great fun, which to my mind is the most important element of what we do together.

Let's hope 2016 is even more fun - I'm sure it will be as we go from strength to strength.  Don't forget the year gets officially kicked off on January 9th with the Epiphany Do organised by Mr Mile Muncher himself so move heaven and earth to be there.

Merry Christmas and a peaceful New Year from me, everyone here at OD Towers and not forgetting me bikes  :-*
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on January 04, 2016, 12:58:40 pm
Anyone interested in a 200 during January?

I've got to get my RrTY ride sorted and thinking I might do the same DIY route as last month but would be up for riding with others. Reasonably flexible on timings but either 16/17th or 23/24th would be preference.

Tomsk, do you need any route checks done for the Horsepower or Boudicca's as previously mentioned?

Nik
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 04, 2016, 01:31:14 pm
Anyone interested in a 200 during January?

I've got to get my RrTY ride sorted and thinking I might do the same DIY route as last month but would be up for riding with others. Reasonably flexible on timings but either 16/17th or 23/24th would be preference.

Tomsk, do you need any route checks done for the Horsepower or Boudicca's as previously mentioned?

Nik

If you were talking about the 16th or 17th I might be interested.  I might do the whole distance though and I might be too slow for you at the moment.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 04, 2016, 01:34:26 pm
I might do the whole distance though .

Is that because you're in Audax retirement and don't wish to come out of it  ::-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 04, 2016, 01:44:47 pm
I might do the whole distance though .

Is that because you're in Audax retirement and don't wish to come out of it  ::-)

It's cos I am massively unfit - at the moment.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 04, 2016, 01:45:40 pm
It's cos I am massively unfit - at the moment.

Too much Untapped and not enough pedalling  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on January 04, 2016, 01:50:46 pm

If you were talking about the 16th or 17th I might be interested.  I might do the whole distance though and I might be too slow for you at the moment.

No rush for me, it's my struggling time of the year so happy to take it easy (and you can laugh at me fighting with sprays of sealant and tell me about good tyres!

Let me know if it works, I can wangle the route a little bit so it goes straight through Witham as well if you want to sign up for the DIY?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on January 04, 2016, 05:43:07 pm
23rd is the only day I can manage out of those two weekends. I was thinking of a 'Dick Turpin', but also have a plan for a DIY 200 based on the first 260km of my new 400. It returns from Colchester via Tiptree so might suit...?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 04, 2016, 06:47:40 pm
I am tempted if it is "easy" paced as I would be riding the furthest I have done on fixed.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on January 06, 2016, 03:30:43 pm
I am tempted if it is "easy" paced as I would be riding the furthest I have done on fixed.
I reckon that should be fine. My schedule has changed a bit so it looks like it might be the 23rd/24th only available now so the DTDO is looking likely.

While I am on the Audax bandwagon, my plans for the K&SW and the Mr Pickwicks calendar events have been dashed already. I am still quite keen to ride the Mr Pickwicks Goes in Search of Dragons and there is a Perm available. Anyone fancy joining in the fun that only a 'scenic' Audax through Wales could provide? (600km with 9.5 AAA) I would probably aim for July.

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/MR13/ (http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/MR13/)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 06, 2016, 03:39:59 pm
Tippers.  You know fine well that the only time I agree to anything like that is either a. in the pub or b. in a sleep deprived state after doing something stupid (I haven't done anything like as stupid as 9.5AAA).

I assume the rest of the peloton have more sense than to go off chasing dragons through Wales with you.  Although DL would make a good hobbit if that's any help  :thumbsup:  Why don't you ask young Frodo tonight when he's in his cups ?



Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 06, 2016, 03:45:07 pm
Tippers.  You know fine well that the only time I agree to anything like that is either a. in the pub or b. in a sleep deprived state after doing something stupid (I haven't done anything like as stupid as 9.5AA).


And there was me thinking this would be an ample stage for Ted to showcase his fixed ability skills and join you awheel  ::-) wait until he has sunk a few tonight and get him signed up.......  ;)

I would love to join you on this if I can get a pass after completing the Wiggle dragon ride the month before I will start laying the foundations
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 06, 2016, 04:24:49 pm
Ooops, the godfather has turned up on the Epiphany thread.

You're in trouble now Frodo.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on January 06, 2016, 04:28:00 pm
Don't worry it will get a mention tonight. The ride could also happily be moved to September as a warm up for the Flatlands. I might also drop it in conversation at the Top of Llanberis pass and on the decent back into Chepstow in May!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 06, 2016, 04:31:38 pm
Ooops, the godfather has turned up on the Epiphany thread.

You're in trouble now Frodo.

You too old chap i'm just following the example set by my peers  O:-)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 06, 2016, 04:50:17 pm
You have peers  :o

You must introduce us all.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 06, 2016, 04:52:54 pm
You have peers  :o

You must introduce us all.

Indeed I do  :o where to start - OD, Tomsk, Huggy, The Hustler/Quaffer, Tippers, Oaky all throughly decent chaps and then one dodgy one called Ted or something like that.....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 06, 2016, 05:12:56 pm
But they are fully grown audaxers not segment chasing halflings
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 06, 2016, 05:21:51 pm
I don't have the time spare to ride these audaxes particularly at your speed
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on January 06, 2016, 08:04:35 pm
I don't have the time spare to ride these audaxes particularly at your speed
hehehe.....harsh
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 07, 2016, 07:40:12 am
The first MEMWNS ride of 2016 was a micro arrows to the Old Crown at Messing (chosen for its link to epiphany).

Nine of us appeared out of the fog at the pub, who knows there may be others still out there.  First to arrive was Oaky who was sitting nursing a pint when I arrived just before 9 having shortened his route after almost cycling over a kerb.  Tippers trundled in next closely followed by Huggy and Jiberjaber who had somehow met en route.  Tomsk breezed in next after another epic journey from the other side of the County.  The group was completed later when the Hustler and Frodo and Bilbo Baggins arrived.

Most of us freestyled along a route we knew well but the Witham peloton like to follow a pre-determined route so somehow managed to include an ascent of TMNH and a descent of Market Hill on their way to Messing.

We sampled a limited but well kept selection of Brewers Gold, Broadside and Southwold.  The Quaffer's Choice was held over until Saturday.

Talk was mainly of next week's visit to the Olympic velodrome.  Huggy has done some sterling work in organising what should be a 30 strong group of us to try the boards.  It turns out that DL has already had a coaching session with Sir Chris Hoy so we look forward to seeing him as a blur.

Another fine night and the rain and wind held off until we all got home.

 
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 07, 2016, 08:09:29 am
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 07, 2016, 08:29:23 am
It was indeed a thoroughly enjoyable evening as always!  :thumbsup:

OD you would of been proud of Andy who quite rightly routed out via TMNH  O:-) He then undertook a decent of Market Hill with no back brake - HERO  ;D

It does seem the excitement is building ahead of the Velodrome next week
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on January 07, 2016, 09:09:51 am
I have started a Dick Turpin thread for the planned Essex Peloton's January 200 on 23rd: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=95179.msg1969742#msg1969742 (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=95179.msg1969742#msg1969742)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 07, 2016, 09:16:34 am
Andy - re: HY/RD brakes, two PDFs and a video on their web site.

Install video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8T6cON6y_Y

Technical Bulletin: (basically the check I did last night)
http://www.trpbrakes.com/userfiles/file/TRP%20HYRD%20Technical%20Bulletin%20English%20Rev%20B.pdf

Install and Adjustment manual: (Section B refers to how to adjust the cable).
https://www.trpbrakes.com/userfiles/file/HYRD_Final.pdf

So essentially what I would do would be to undo the cable grip bolt. Fully turn the barrel adjustment into the calliper (clockwise as you look down the cable to the brake).
Then screw in the lock knob, pull the cable inner hard and tighten the cable grip bolt.
If (with the lock knob still screwed in) there is still movement in the leaver, you can use the barrel adjuster to take up any remaining slack, 2 things to note though,
- there is only 1.5 turns of adjustment, so if you have gone more than say half a turn, you probably didn't pull the cable tight enough.
- once you have adjusted the barrel to tighten the cable outer, it might be hard to undo the lock knob, so back off the barrel slightly then undo the lock knob and adjust the barrel back to where it was.

I think the problem on yours is the above process wasn't followed so the actuator arm (the bit the cable is attached to) isn't returning to the right place when the brake is off, so the vent that allows the pad wear compensation happening - more detail in the above technical bulletin.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 07, 2016, 09:40:06 am
I have started a Dick Turpin thread for the planned Essex Peloton's January 200 on 23rd: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=95179.msg1969742#msg1969742 (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=95179.msg1969742#msg1969742)

Excellent work Tomsk, it's been too long since we started a new mid-Essex thread  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 07, 2016, 09:45:10 am
Jibbers / Andy - you know HY/RDs are only compatable with the most upto date brakes levers don't you?  The levers must have a 2.5 pull ratio, the latest 105 levers as used by tippers are fine. The last time I looked TRP don't make this fact known, again last time I looked their own levers weren't compatable.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 07, 2016, 09:49:35 am
Do we need a mid-Essex technical thread ? O:-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 07, 2016, 10:42:54 am
Jibbers / Andy - you know HY/RDs are only compatable with the most upto date brakes levers don't you?  The levers must have a 2.5 pull ratio, the latest 105 levers as used by tippers are fine. The last time I looked TRP don't make this fact known, again last time I looked their own levers weren't compatable.

Not sure of what the pull ratio is on the HR/RD we have on ours though they are a Mk2 version of the calliper where the casing is all one cast - so not sure if they have made any other mechanical adjustments.  Mine worked fine on Tiagra (which I think Andy still has on his) and also with 105 5700 STI which I have on now.  Both these bikes are the same 2015 CDF20 with factory fit HR/RD's on.  On Andy's bike I think the actuator arm wasn't returning far enough back to allow the pistons to self adjust to the pad wear, hence the lack of break. 


Andy - still worth dropping the wheel and taking the pads out to check them, I was surprised how much pad it looked like there was compared to actually was when I took them out and looked...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 07, 2016, 10:46:20 am
It's not the calipers that have the 2.5 pull ratio, its the levers.  Older levers only have a 2.0 ratio which means the lever throw is such that the lever hits the bar when braking hard.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: rr on January 10, 2016, 02:14:30 pm
Just been assaulted by two young men in a black Audi, S600 DLK, on Roxwell Road Chelmsford. Close overtake then matched my speed and sprayed screen wash fluid into my face.
Clear glasses saved the day.
Reported to police and crime number obtained.
Watch out our there
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 10, 2016, 02:43:47 pm
Oh no, sorry to hear that, hope you get an outcome from the cops.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Canardly on January 10, 2016, 03:38:47 pm
Stupid thick morons, hope you get a result.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 10, 2016, 04:15:39 pm
Not good, best of luck with the police.

There has been too much of this sort of thing recently.  On one of the midweek rides a car slowed down on the same road and I had a bottle thrown at me.  We seem to be having an altercation with a car every second week or so.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 11, 2016, 07:17:38 pm
Them that's doing the Easter Arrow - what time and where might a meet up be in York so I can co-ordinate my midlands chums I am doing the mini arrow thing with?  They will need to book some trains so trying to manage some refreshment expectations etc...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 10:03:42 am
Is anyone going to publish a route for Ted to put into his Garmin for tomorrow night  ??? We all know how much he loves to follow the blue line........  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 10:09:44 am
I think you are mistaking me for the Witham peloton.  You lot couldn't even get to the Old Crown last week without following a set route  :o

I will just go anti-clockwise and try to keep up.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 10:14:13 am
I think you are mistaking me for the Witham peloton.  You lot couldn't even get to the Old Crown last week without following a set route  :o

I will just go anti-clockwise and try to keep up.

I think you will find that The Hustler was just following orders from above that each MEMWNS excursion must contain an ascent of TMNH - I don't believe you followed this last week did you?????

Are you bringing the fixed Genesis tomorrow? That way you could ride straight from Stratford onto the boards  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 10:36:00 am
The Hustler never follows orders.  He is a rebel like his cousin Jezza.

We are all looking forward to seeing your expertise on the boards tomorrow.  Your experience and your coaching sessions with Sir Chris should mean that we will effectively have an extra coach tomorrow night for the group.

Do you have your own special helmet and outfit ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 10:38:35 am
The Hustler never follows orders.  He is a rebel like his cousin Jezza.

He did mention he might only wear one layer........

We are all looking forward to seeing your expertise on the boards tomorrow.  Your experience and your coaching sessions with Sir Chris should mean that we will effectively have an extra coach tomorrow night for the group.

Do you have your own special helmet and outfit ?

Well thank you very much no pressure or anything then....  ::-)

I will indeed be doning my GB team kit and aero helmet and imagine that Sir Chris will be on standby on the phone in case I need any minor tips on the night! Just hope you can at least keep within a lap of me  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 10:40:24 am
I will just aim for being on the same circuit as everyone else.

Have you started your carb loading yet ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 10:42:03 am
I will just aim for being on the same circuit as everyone else.

Have you started your carb loading yet ?

How very noble of you.... until you put the toe down a la the Santa Special  :demon:

Yes a full carb day today and I will shave the pins tonight, how about you? Plenty of 'Essex energy' drinks to be consumed this evening in preparation?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 11:13:49 am
No, my body is a temple.  I will stick to wine tonight.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 11:17:19 am
No, my body is a temple.  I will stick to wine tonight.

Will you be donning your VC Oysters skin suit for tomorrow night or are you looking to leave that one to OD  ???
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 11:37:08 am
We're all about the Witham Cycling tomorrow remember.

I dread to think what OD's skinsuit would look like.  In fact, I am about to have lunch, where's my mind bleach gone.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 12, 2016, 11:39:18 am
We're all about the Witham Cycling tomorrow remember.

I dread to think what OD's skinsuit would look like.  In fact, I am about to have lunch, where's my mind bleach gone.

I shall be wearing my Witham Cycling top!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 11:39:42 am
We're all about the Witham Cycling tomorrow remember.

I dread to think what OD's skinsuit would look like.  In fact, I am about to have lunch, where's my mind bleach gone.

So I can't wear my MADCC skin suit then  :'( no doubt OD will have a WC one tucked away somewhere :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 11:40:29 am
I shall be wearing my Witham Cycling top!

 :thumbsup: not very aero though......  :-\
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 11:42:23 am
OD is now wondering why his Witham Cycling top should be like a well known bar of chocolate.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 11:43:24 am
OD is now wondering why his Witham Cycling top should be like a well known bar of chocolate.

That wouldn't exactly help with the 'double layer' would it
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 11:45:59 am
mint and chocolate ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 11:47:03 am
mint and chocolate ?

Yeah that work's!!  :thumbsup: have you not got any work to do today?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 11:51:49 am
Well I did have until this annoying little person popped up on here.

You finished for the day ?  Didn't know you did night shifts.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 11:54:09 am
Well I did have until this annoying little person popped up on here.

Not sure who you're referring too....?

You finished for the day ?  Didn't know you did night shifts.

No don't worry I have a few more posts for you yet! I might take lunch in a bit though if you don't mind?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 12:02:34 pm
Maybe give the work servers a bit of a break.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 12:12:23 pm
Maybe give the work servers a bit of a break.

All finished now thanks (big carb load up) I see your a bit billy no mates on the nocturnal thread......  :(
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 01:57:37 pm
So, are you going for an 11kg uplift in weight (ie double your existing weight) for your track campaign ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 02:00:14 pm
So, are you going for an 11kg uplift in weight (ie double your existing weight) for your track campaign ?

That's probably a little steep but booked in for some EPO tonight to aid the speed tomorrow  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 02:07:03 pm
OD is doing the same thing but with Bovril.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 02:12:01 pm
OD is doing the same thing but with Bovril.

I thought he was on the intravenous G&T drip  ;)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 02:56:25 pm
No, G&T is Wednesday night rides.

Espresso Martinis for touring.

Bovril for the track.

It's all part of his new get fit for 2016 plan.  No beer you see.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 02:58:04 pm
No, G&T is Wednesday night rides.

Espresso Martinis for touring.

Bovril for the track.

It's all part of his new get fit for 2016 plan.  No beer you see.

Where does Jiber's favourite drink VLS (vodka,lime & soda) fit into this get fit plan?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 12, 2016, 03:41:07 pm
He's on a different regimen; VLS, parmos, curries and fried breakfasts.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 12, 2016, 03:43:37 pm
He's on a different regimen; VLS, parmos, curries and fried breakfasts.

Don't forget his new tipple - orange and malibu as debuted at The Compasses on Saturday night! Luckily his profile pic is Granville and not Del Boy othewise he would be on the Pina Colada's  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 14, 2016, 07:16:27 am
Well how excellent was that?  I've never seen Oaky so animated and enthused, not even about BEER!

A massive thank you to huggy - well done matey  :-* :thumbsup:  And if you ever want to follow in Dave Brailsford's footsteps and form your own track cycling team I'd recommend you sign up Doggers and Beer Fueled Commuter straightaway - both very impressive in my view.

When can we go again?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Kirky on January 14, 2016, 07:43:51 am
Well done Huggy, an excellent evening at the Velodrome.

I didn’t fall off :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 14, 2016, 08:36:47 am
Well how excellent was that?  I've never seen Oaky so animated and enthused, not even about BEER!

A massive thank you to huggy - well done matey  :-* :thumbsup:  And if you ever want to follow in Dave Brailsford's footsteps and form your own track cycling team I'd recommend you sign up Doggers and Beer Fueled Commuter straightaway - both very impressive in my view.

When can we go again?

+ 1 super evening all round and massive thanks to Huggy for making it happen  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 14, 2016, 09:52:14 am
In a fresh twist to Wednesday nights, the Essex peloton made their way to the Olympic Velodrome last night.

Although we were there with an official Witham Cycling party, the 28 strong group comprised a fair number of MEMWNS stalwarts.
Myself, Tomsk, Tippers, Huggy, Danbury Dogger, GavinSSN, the Hustler, DL, OD, Jiberjaber, Bobb, the BFC and Oaky all managed to make our way to the velodrome, which is surprisingly hard to locate for such a unique building  :facepalm:

When you arrive at any of the legacy facilities from 2012, you realise just how much money was spent and what incredible facilities they are.  This one seems well enough used but it really is huge so it feels very empty.  Another thing it has in common with other facilities is excellent coaches and unexpectedly decent kit.

Once we had all been kitted out with our track bikes, oohed and aahed about not having any brakes and moaned about Keo cleats, the coaches split us into two groups.  This proved to be an excellent move as both groups had 15 minutes on and 15 minutes off the track, meaning that we all had a full hour of riding and plenty of time for briefings, recovery and water in between. 

It was amazing to see how those of us who hadn't ridden the track before went from cycling round the blue flat section and looking nervously at the seemingly vertical banking to riding up and down the banking moving around in groups. 

Of course, the usual suspects proved to be quick on the track.  BFC and DL were their usually rapid selves but we also had some serious power being laid down by Tippers, JJ and OD.  Then there were the riders who seemed to be able to go fast by riding smoothly and quickly; Tomsk, Bobb, DD, the Hustler and GavinSSN being prime examples of the art.  The other noticeable thing was just how much difference having a wheel to follow made to the effort required. I seemed to be playing catch up to the fast guys a lot which became a bit self-fulfilling in the end as you lost energy being off the wheel which made it harder to get on the wheel.  Most of the sessions seemed to start with tight groups working together before the groups splintered as the quicker riders moved up a gear.  The 4 man pursuit exercise was a particular favourite in my group as it involved tempo riding followed by sprinting then more tempo riding and plenty of swooping in and out of groups.

The post-ride debriefing took place in the Cow in Westfield where we finally got our well-deserved Essex energy drinks.  London Gold was awarded the prestigious Quaffers Choice for the evening.

Hopefully we can find another slot, possibly even trying our hand at becoming accredited track riders.  We may also have recruited another couple of Wednesday night riders and Darth Oaky is hopeful that he can bring a few of our number over to the fixed side.

Thanks to Huggy for arranging everything.  He looked very official with his clipboard and was possibly slightly disappointed when the bureaucracy that he had been expecting at reception turned out to be a relaxed and friendly welcome  :thumbsup:  We will now permit Huggy to spend some time finalising his new 200 before pressing him into service again for another session.









Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 14, 2016, 11:03:42 am
I like your new sig line!  Very much in keeping with the post above  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 14, 2016, 11:16:05 am
It was a title bestowed by Darth Oaky upthread.  I have to do something when you and Huggy are making such sterling efforts so I might as well ramble on about things on here.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on January 14, 2016, 04:33:15 pm
A whole hour of riding without a single pot hole!!!!!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 14, 2016, 06:37:07 pm
Arrow Men, what's your ETA in to York and plans for potential meeting up with us mere 'Trail' men? My team are keen to make their train arrangements so I'm trying to form our plan....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on January 14, 2016, 07:22:07 pm
Arrow Men, what's your ETA in to York and plans for potential meeting up with us mere 'Trail' men? My team are keen to make their train arrangements so I'm trying to form our plan....

08:00 Saturday at the 'Punchbowl' [Wetherspoons] - provisional, but likely to be around that time. Trains from late morning/lunchtime. I have a team already lined up but if anyone else wants to start an Essex Team B...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 14, 2016, 09:16:31 pm
[@Easter Arrow] ... I have a team already lined up but if anyone else wants to start an Essex Team B...

Easter is early again isn't it, like 2013 when I did it, so errrr no thanks!  As I've said many times ... I have never been so cold.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on January 15, 2016, 09:03:03 am
It was indeed a most excellent evening and one that I will hope to repeat again when the next block of bookings are offered out by the VeloPark.  I think the Wednesday 8pm slot worked well, certainly for the size of group we took all getting there on time, weekend slots are also available so will also apply for those as options.
My very quick edit of mine & Oaky's videoing efforts is viewable here (https://youtu.be/zL79IrmblTg) if you haven't already seen it via the Facebook post.

We don't have to limit ourselves to waiting for a club booking slot, we could co-ordinate individual or block bookings of individuals and visit any other time, certainly as for me at least the prospect of riding around the boards is is not so scary and intimidating. There was some discussion about doing some of the 4 stages of accreditation for which details are here (https://www.visitleevalley.org.uk/en/content/cms/london2012/velo-park/track/track-accreditation/), each stage passed allowing you to progress to the next stage.  If Oaky were to go through all 4 stages he may even be able to use his British Cycling racing licence there  :demon:
Stage 1 is pretty much a repeat of the club track taster session we did for which they used to sign off your stage 1 accreditation but are not allowed to now.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 15, 2016, 09:30:08 am
Arrow Men, what's your ETA in to York and plans for potential meeting up with us mere 'Trail' men? My team are keen to make their train arrangements so I'm trying to form our plan....

08:00 Saturday at the 'Punchbowl' [Wetherspoons] - provisional, but likely to be around that time. Trains from late morning/lunchtime. I have a team already lined up but if anyone else wants to start an Essex Team B...

That's a challenging timescale, I think we might be closer to the 11AM cut off on our last leg in from Selby (though still planning at the moment, but we have a mandatory 8 hour stop we have to take and the logistics of the hotel breakfast to navigate...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on January 15, 2016, 11:53:29 am
We'll be 4 pints and a breakfast in by then...at least you will get a nice welcome  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 15, 2016, 01:33:13 pm
In the continuing absence of a MEMWNS technical thread  :P, Tippers how easy was it to replace the headset bearings on your Domane ?

I have just splurged on a new groupset for mine and feel I ought to do that as well.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 15, 2016, 01:36:21 pm
I have just splurged on a new groupset for mine and feel I ought to do that as well.

11 spd Dura Ace??
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 15, 2016, 01:44:01 pm
Yeah, because you'd obviously buy a groupset that's worth more than the frame.

11spd 105.  Then I will switch the old levers and brakes onto the Flyer with some new handlebars for it.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 15, 2016, 01:49:07 pm
Yeah, because you'd obviously buy a groupset that's worth more than the frame.

 :facepalm: no sense of adventure...... You only need to look as far as OD for that with his latest deliveroo steed added to the stable
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 15, 2016, 02:26:39 pm
I think I might have found your next bike OD..........  :thumbsup:

(http://www.oldpicsarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/Bike-ambulance-1940s.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 15, 2016, 02:53:10 pm
Tomsk can give us a ruling on whether the sleeper will still get his brevet stamped.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 15, 2016, 02:54:52 pm
Tomsk can give us a ruling on whether the sleeper will still get his brevet stamped.

There might be room for you and Huggy to top and tail  ;)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 15, 2016, 02:55:27 pm
What makes you think Huggy tops and tails  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 15, 2016, 02:56:46 pm
What makes you think Huggy tops and tails  ;D

I'm sure you mentioned it to me after your bus shelter experiences......  :-X
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 15, 2016, 03:07:20 pm
Back to matters technical.  I am giving up on the new groupset for the Domane.

Buying new levers and calipers for the Flyer.  Wheel upgrade next once I have sold the Equilibrium and my Schils.

Domane will get new headset bearings and new cables for this season instead.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 15, 2016, 03:09:07 pm
Buying new levers and calipers for the Flyer.  Wheel upgrade next once I have sold the Equilibrium and my Schils.

Dura Ace??

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 15, 2016, 03:18:36 pm
No doubt Oaky will be hoping that Penelope is suitably stocked up with Essex energy drinks when OD brings her out on a Wednesday night.......  ;D

(http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b495/James_Millard/3312035147_1ff125bc41_zpsajrzaspk.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 15, 2016, 03:24:46 pm
Watch it, OD might get stand jealousy.  That one even has little wheels.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 15, 2016, 03:27:16 pm
Watch it, OD might get stand jealousy.  That one even has little wheels.

No flowery Cath Kidson seat cover though.....  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 15, 2016, 03:35:47 pm
That is a big compromise for OD.

Unless he has a supplier of Cath Kidston saddles lined up ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 15, 2016, 03:41:58 pm
Unless he has a supplier of Cath Kidston saddles lined up ?

Didn't like to ask but he may well do!! Penelope with all her load space was a little overloaded on yesterdays shopping trip  ::-)

(http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b495/James_Millard/IMG_8343_zpszsaoguel.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 16, 2016, 09:09:04 am
First supermarket shopping trip this morning! The Current Mrs R is riding her bike too  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on January 16, 2016, 06:42:00 pm
First supermarket shopping trip this morning! The Current Mrs R is riding her bike too  :thumbsup:

Excellent!  :thumbsup:  Any ice in the car parks?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 16, 2016, 06:49:13 pm
First supermarket shopping trip this morning! The Current Mrs R is riding her bike too  :thumbsup:

Excellent!  :thumbsup:  Any ice in the car parks?

Nope, it was all good!  Much fun!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 18, 2016, 11:45:58 am
Watch it, OD might get stand jealousy.  That one even has little wheels.

No flowery Cath Kidson seat cover though.....  :o

The Cath Kidston thing got a bit weirder late last week when I discovered one of her shopping bags in the Global Headquarters of Oscar's dad Inc. (aka The Man Cave).  Thinking Cath was living in there without me knowing I mentioned the strange goings on to The Current Mrs R.  She said that some time ago we had visited the Cath Kidston shop in Norwich on the day it opened and had been given these items as freebies.  We also have a couple of her mugs, I imagine we paid for the mugs.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 18, 2016, 11:48:57 am
So far the main MEMWNS sponsors then appear to be Genesis bikes and Cath Kidson for accessories  ;D aside from Ted's branded MEMWNS clothing of course, which he keeps the cards very close to the chest.....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 18, 2016, 12:11:48 pm
So far the main MEMWNS sponsors then appear to be Genesis bikes and Cath Kidson for accessories  ;D aside from Ted's branded MEMWNS clothing of course, which he keeps the cards very close to the chest.....

I don't want to spoil the official launch of the MEMWNS range.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 18, 2016, 12:13:36 pm
In 2011 Cath was on Desert Island Discs. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010lyy4)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 18, 2016, 12:17:18 pm
In 2011 Cath was on Desert Island Discs. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b010lyy4)

In 2015 Ted was in Rowhedge

(http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b495/James_Millard/5beaf80d-fc21-4bcc-89e0-77eec019062b_zpsxcmqnmi1.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 18, 2016, 01:12:15 pm
Fancy a new Trek Tippers/Ted? Colleague at work's brother is selling his from last year only ridden 75 miles as he got injured just before it arrived

(http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b495/James_Millard/trek_zpstmnl3ymr.png)

Purchased in August 2015 for £7,800.00 from Trek Milton Keynes.

Only selling as he is buying a Project One! Any interest?*

*naturally this bike isn't anywhere near the standard of finish as that of Penelope
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on January 18, 2016, 05:31:32 pm
Ahhh...If I was spending silly money on a Carbon bike I would be heading strict for the new Madone.

A fixie is next on my list, I'll invest in some nice light stuff when I drop to 12 stone (which is pretty darned unlikely  ;D)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 21, 2016, 08:42:16 am
So last night a hardy (some might say foolish) peloton of four formed at Spa Rd, 3 willing participants in myself, Andy C33 and BFC and one bullied into it participant in OD  :thumbsup: he loved it really having been informed that it was - 3 degrees we set off into the freezing fog towards TMNH.

Having made our ascent we headed off down towards Hurrells Doggers Lane to see if the cold weather may mean a quiet night at the ford...... We can report there was the customary white transit plus a couple of other cars, on the other side of the ford myself and OD decided with the road surface a bit slippery we would be best off walking a little bit further up the hill before remounting onto our steeds and we then took the executive decision to cut the pre-planned route short and head straight to see Wally at The Cats with the temperature now ranging between -5/-7  :o

Upon pitching up at The Cats we saw Oaky's bike parked up and a fluorescent Jiber demounting and locking up his bike, as we decanted into the open fire warmth of The Cats a couple of pints of IPA were most welcome and a good chat was had once Tomsk arrived through the cold on a number of different topics with OD filling us in a bit more on his Epic adventure ideas for later in the year plus coming out with the quote of the evening when he announced he would be 'going down' on Penelope.......  ::-) :-X :o

As home time arrived Oaky and the BFC decided they hadn't consumed enough ale so decided to stay on whilst the rest of us made our way outside to iced bikes and frozen solid water bottles in -5 degrees and a gentle ride back saw us part ways with Jiber and Tomsk as myself, OD and Andy C33 arrived back into Witham before the clock struck 12.....

Another top night as usual and a cracking attendance given the weather particularly from Tomsk and Jiber who rode solo  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 21, 2016, 08:58:21 am
... plus coming out with the quote of the evening when he announced he would be 'going down' on Penelope.......  ::-) :-X :o

The point I was trying to make was that I was planning to go down to the gym this morning on Penelope ... which I did  ;D

Good write up DL.  I have to say that if any prizes were to be awarded for last night it would go to the Hurrells Lane doggers, it was -4 when we got there  :o  As DL reported, there was a bloke in a car a little way up the lane from the ford and a white Transit with its engine running with a bloke inside.  And there was a woman on her own in a car - is that a good idea?  It was 8:45pm, freezing cold, pitch black and Hurrells Lane is a pretty remote location - I guess they all know what they're doing.

Poor Wally was suffering a bit, he's got some nasty leg ulcers apparently - GWS Wally  :-*

Its good to see proper pint pots are making a comeback ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2477_zps8enlj3hp.jpg)

Have fun next week!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on January 21, 2016, 09:04:34 am
Yes, cold indeed! My chilliest night ride since that Easter Arrow Epic Fail...[2013?]. But at least no snow and howling wind.

The leading edges of Tomsk and Bernardette sported a fringe of ice crystals by the time I got home - 52 miles on the clock - bonus miles due to taking the quieter routes that were nevertheless salt treated: Pleshey, Gt Waltham, Boreham, TMNH, Danbury; similar return, but via Chelmo. It got foggier NW of Chelmo, so I was glad to be on quieter roads, though it was hard to see the verge at times. I only had to do one emergency stop, just before I ran out of road  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 21, 2016, 09:10:14 am
You're all mad.

Where do I sign up for next week's frozen adventures  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 21, 2016, 09:14:34 am
You're all mad.

Where do I sign up for next week's frozen adventures  :thumbsup:

You were missed Ted but I wouldn't of fancied a trip back to Mersea on my tod last night....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 21, 2016, 09:48:23 am
It certainly was an epic frozen beard night by the time I got home... I thought the fog got worse than it was on the way out, I could just about see 2m in front at one point... but on the plus side, I managed to avoid the holes in the road at the A12 on slip between Hatfield Peveral and Boreham.  Shoe comfort appeared to be better and my gloves warmed up just as I was reaching HP so I was fairly comfortable for the ride home from there on wards.  A jolly night indeed!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Christophe on January 21, 2016, 10:08:42 am
A fixie is next on my list

I have a very nice Surly Steamroller which I'm thinking about selling........

Decided I need to make room and raise some cash for my next project.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on January 21, 2016, 03:31:39 pm
A fixie is next on my list

I have a very nice Surly Steamroller which I'm thinking about selling........

Decided I need to make room and raise some cash for my next project.
ooohhh.....I'm listening!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 25, 2016, 02:30:59 pm
Some of our number made it over to Dunmow on Saturday for Tomsk's winter perm extravaganza.  Bobb, Tomsk, Tippers, the Hustler, Jiber and I were there from MEMWNS and we had a few other regulars from the Essex peloton like Alotronic, Raymond, Wilky Boy, Fboab and ChrisS.  There were others there that Tomsk will know but I don't know their forum names.

First winter perm for me and first ride around the Dick Turpin's Day Out route.  As has often been said before, it is a good winter route with plenty of warm fires and Essex Energy Drinks available at regular intervals as needed. We had the weather with us (not that this stopped some of our number from fuelling up anyway).  It also gave our amateur historians, Bobb and the Hustler, the opportunity to show off what they had learned about Dick Turpin from the Horrible Histories song "Angry Highwayman".  I should point out a serious discrepancy in the route sheet, Tomsk has Dick being born in 1707 whereas the sign outside his birthplace has him born in 1705.  Actually, thinking about it, it is more likely that they are wrong  :thumbsup:

With over a dozen riders waiting at the start, it felt more like one of Tomsk's x-rated events than a January perm.  When you arrive at a ride and the rest of the field seems to be kitted out with PBP gilets and worn carradices, you know that it won't be a gentle meander through the lanes, and so it proved.  The pace at the front was fairly relentless from the off with the ever exuberant Jiber often leading the charge.  I selflessly opted to shepherd everyone along from the back of the field  O:-)  Despite the pace, we all arrived pretty much as one at the first few controls.  We did string out a bit more on the way to Debenham but were all there within a few minutes of each other.  The group split there with one section opting to try the (closed) chippy, while the remainder of us went for the platinum option of standing outside the Co-op in the car park eating cold food.

Not long after that I had my first in-event visitation in a long time.  Luckily my wingman was on hand with patience, tools and assistance (I had managed to lose my tyre levers somewhere round the ride which is sod's law).  This meant that we suddenly had the luxury of going at our own pace (well, strictly speaking, mine) rather than trying to keep up with audax royalty.

By the time we eventually wheeled into the mecca of East Anglia's audax scene that is the Sudbury McDonalds, everyone else was ready to leave.  At this point, in an act of solidarity, Bobb opted to have another coffee and ride with us back to Arrivee. 

There always seems to be a point on rides when you wonder what the hell you are doing and think this may be your last long ride.  On this ride that seemed to go from about Saffron Walden to Sudbury for me.  From Sudbury on it was fun again though.  It was particularly amusing watching Bobb and the Hustler trying subtly to moderate their speed so they didn't spit me out the back.

Hopefully Huggy will be back with us on some rides soon and we are all looking forward to the junior Dogger's arrival so that DL can make his long-awaited debut.

Tippers, meanwhile, is trying to lure Jiber and I into his RRTY nonsense by tempting us with an ECE to the Brazier in February...

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 25, 2016, 02:58:00 pm
.......................
There always seems to be a point on rides when you wonder what the hell you are doing and think this may be your last long ride.  On this ride that seemed to go from about Saffron Walden to Sudbury for me....................


Glad its not just me then!  Mine stretched from about 15km out of Sudbury to the Great Dunmow sign!  I could hardly walk in my boots as I entered the pub! 


Note to self, fast pace is useless if you then sit around awaiting the group to depart, must go slower from the off next time!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 25, 2016, 03:38:57 pm
As advance planning is postitively encouraged on this thread and as it is the home of mid-Essex audax endeavours, here goes with some advanced audax planning.

Bobb has earmarked the Shark on April the 9th as a good pre-BCM jaunt.  He did the 300 version of the same ride after PBP and described it as having a lot of climbing as it criss-crosses the Downs. 

As Tippers has assured us in Brian Taylor style that the BCM is merely undulating, this should be a good warm up.

Talking of BCM, has anyone made any travel plans whatsoever ?  Huggy has offered the team van but we will need at least one other vehicle (I assume Tomsk will just ride down from Dunmow  :thumbsup:).  I am not sleeping in a van, not even with Huggy, so will need to look at accom as well.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 25, 2016, 03:40:38 pm
Talking of BCM, has anyone made any travel plans whatsoever ?  Huggy has offered the team van but we will need at least one other vehicle (I assume Tomsk will just ride down from Dunmow  :thumbsup:).  I am not sleeping in a van, not even with Huggy, so will need to look at accom as well.

Bus shelter, your caravan or possibly the horsebox as a last resort  ???
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 25, 2016, 03:43:38 pm
Talking of BCM, has anyone made any travel plans whatsoever ?  Huggy has offered the team van but we will need at least one other vehicle (I assume Tomsk will just ride down from Dunmow  :thumbsup:).  I am not sleeping in a van, not even with Huggy, so will need to look at accom as well.

Bus shelter, your caravan or possibly the horsebox as a last resort  ???

What about Bear Grylls OD style open air bivouacing.......  ::-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 25, 2016, 03:45:53 pm
I haven't got an orange poo trowel which is, according to OD, an essential item for open air "activities".

Tippers says there is a good kip opportunity at Kings on the way round.  What I want is a good night's sleep on the Friday and then a good night's sleep on the Sunday but this time after several beers and a curry.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 25, 2016, 03:47:30 pm
I haven't got an orange poo trowel which is, according to OD, an essential item for open air "activities".

Tippers says there is a good kip opportunity at Kings on the way round.  What I want is a good night's sleep on the Friday and then a good night's sleep on the Sunday but this time after several beers and a curry.

If you ask OD nicely I'm sure he will loan out Penelope to you for the weekend and she has the capability of carrying a marquee in that front tray  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on January 25, 2016, 03:58:10 pm
Talking of BCM, has anyone made any travel plans whatsoever ?

Not yet - but I guess we need to!

I'll probably drive. What sort of accomodation were you thinking of?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 25, 2016, 04:36:51 pm
Tippers mentioned a good B&B above a pub with a nearby curry house.  There is also a Premier Inn or similar reasonably close by.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on January 25, 2016, 04:40:16 pm
Maybe we should block book the B&B then?!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 25, 2016, 05:27:54 pm
.....the Shark on April the 9th as a good pre-BCM jaunt. ......

What is this Shark and BCM that is been uttered about??  ??? :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 25, 2016, 05:47:02 pm
Tempted?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 25, 2016, 05:49:11 pm
It's a bit long, presently still battling with 200km range at the moment...  I've not looked at the Shark, is that 300km?


**EDIT**
Ah I see its a 200km, so might be a potential... its a bit close to Easter Trail / Arrow though...
http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/16-291/
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 25, 2016, 05:50:01 pm
Only 200. 
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 25, 2016, 05:54:53 pm
Ive put it in the diary, it clashes with the Tamworth events I was thinking about doing, but Greenwich may be closer!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on January 25, 2016, 06:18:00 pm
Interested in 'The Shark' on 9th April, but I see 'Yr Elenydd 300', on the same day has a camping field at the start for use before/after. Perhaps a pre-BCM taster of Welsh hills?

I've done the old Kidderminster start version three times before: it was a cracking route and the Upton Magna start [nr Shrewsbury] looks to provide some English hills at the beginning and end too...

Btw you are correct ted - 1705 is Dick Turpin's presumed birth year [only his baptism is recorded]. Must amend the route sheet information.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 25, 2016, 06:24:58 pm
I think I've done some of that Shark last year on Sam's Wen-Wen ride. I suspect I might need to deploy the Rose for sustained climbing and distance duties...
https://www.strava.com/activities/354002243/overview

Nik was on about ECE to the Victoria C. C. - Brazier's Run 100km but the Horsepower 200 is the weekend after (27 Feb) as an option....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 25, 2016, 06:28:02 pm
Oh dear jibers, I see you're being dragged in  ::-)   ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 25, 2016, 06:48:38 pm
Horsepower is 12th March is it not ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on January 25, 2016, 07:04:38 pm
Horsepower 100/200 is 12th March, but my helpers' ride is a fortnight before on 27th Feb [so I can do Wilkyboy's helpers' ride for his 'Pork Pie' 200 on 5th March].

Non-helpers might like to do a 'Horses for Courses' 200 permanent on that day, like some did last year.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 27, 2016, 12:49:27 pm
DL

You mentioning Tomsk on the sacred thread has made me realise that we may have been taking up some bandwidth with nonsense about OD.

This may be a better thread for exploring just how let down we feel about OD abandoning us.

Yours

Betrayed of Mersea
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 27, 2016, 12:50:31 pm
DL

You mentioning Tomsk on the sacred thread has made me realise that we may have been taking up some bandwidth with nonsense about OD.

This may be a better thread for exploring just how let down we feel about OD abandoning us.

Yours

Betrayed of Mersea

Here here motion seconded

Yours

Betrayed of Witham
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on January 27, 2016, 01:05:58 pm
Howdy Folks...

Not likely I am going to be able to get to another far away ride before the BCM, I promised not going crazy this year and although I had plans they have already gone up in smoke.

As far as the BCM is concerned I think I am going to do the Travelodge (Severn View) on the Friday and the Pub on the Sunday. The Pub rooms are right above the Garden and I am not sure how much sleep will be possible on the Friday night. Also, the ride over the Severn Bridge is good fun and you can always pop over to Chepstow for the evening, it's only about a 15-20 minute ride.

I am going to be taking the Volvo out so I have room for several folk. If Huggy takes the Team Bus then I can take up to 7 (2 will be in only reasonable comfort) otherwise I have facilities to carry 5 bikes on the roof and that should work with bodies and luggage as well.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 27, 2016, 01:18:30 pm
So you should be ok for the Shark as it is local  :thumbsup:

If you are coming out tonight you can let us know which pub, if not then which pub ?

I don't mind driving down.  Who knows what I will be driving by then but it will probably have some room.

Maybe this spinning lark could be the way forward for BCM, albeit not at the expense of Wednesday nights like Judas's Dad.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 27, 2016, 02:05:57 pm
After popping in briefing to huggy Towers the trip to the tip went very well although I did have to wait in the drizzle whilst some bins were compacted and others changed.   5 miles!  All recorded on Strava - naturally.  I love utility cycling  ;D

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2496_zps6g2xtksh.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 27, 2016, 02:11:35 pm
After popping in briefing to huggy Towers

Were you helping out with some painting so he can come out to play tonight? Or just doing the rag and bone man part but on a bike not with a van?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 27, 2016, 02:13:31 pm
No, I was delivering a specialist magazine.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 27, 2016, 02:17:18 pm
No, I was delivering a specialist magazine.

Not more Hurrells Doggers Lane related articles......  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 27, 2016, 02:23:02 pm
 :-X
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 27, 2016, 02:24:01 pm
:-X

 :o  :-[
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on January 27, 2016, 04:40:57 pm
So you should be ok for the Shark as it is local  :thumbsup:

If you are coming out tonight you can let us know which pub, if not then which pub ?

I don't mind driving down.  Who knows what I will be driving by then but it will probably have some room.

The pub is the Coach and Horses

My plan is to head of about midday on Friday get out there and have some chill time on Friday. I am staying Monday night and will head back at some point on Monday morning.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 08:52:06 am
Not wanting to tread on Ted's toes in his capacity of chief reporter I thought it best to get something posted as there's no sign of him this morning  ::-)

A peloton of four formed at Spa myself, Andy C33, BFC and SSN aka Gavin real name Giles as I approached the roundabout a light was coming towards the roundabout in the other direction and suddenly a red faced and very sweaty OD appeared aboard Penelope which allowed us all to get our first glympse of her and what a fine machine she is  :thumbsup: after some last minute powers of persuasion with OD (which didn't work) we set off to The Compasses.

A owl (Barn I think) made a lovely swooping manoeuvre out of the trees in front of us everything was fairly uneventful until we reached the mill at Cressing whereby a dozy woman in her car didn't realise she would need to reverse back into the passing place to allow the oncoming traffic through..... as I unclipped my left I suddenly had the feeling that I was leaning over to the right! Result was me going over however I did manage to stay on my feet and the bike hit the deck  :facepalm:

Onward we ploughed until at the top of Highfield Lane I had a rear visitation after assistance from BFC, Andy and Giles (thanks chaps) I was back on the road again but heading along Priory Road there was another worry ticking coming from the front which was the second visitation this time on the front  :demon:

Having limped to the pub I borrowed a second tube from the Hustler and whilst they went in to see Sister Carol, Tomsk, Ted, Tippers and Jiber i remained outside to repair the second visitation. After a rousing applause as I made my entrance I tucked into a Wibblers Apprentice and a Brentwood Mild Bill both very enjoyable!

Talk was of fixies, the BCM and general audax events coming up with Jiber now firmly on the slippery slope as he edges ever nearer to participating in the BCM.

Ted will need to advise on the Quaffers choice!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 09:05:18 am
Thank you to DL for his report.

The MEMWNS ride headed out to the other Compasses last night.  When I arrived Tippers, Tomsk, Sister Carol and Jiberjaber were already there, having all ridden solo.  Tippers had made his first outdoor foray on fixed wheel but, disappointingly, didn't seem to have any comedic moments to report.

The Witham peloton of the Hustler, DL, BFC and GavinSSN trundled in a fair bit later,  having slavishly followed one of their Garmin routes.  DL had suffered multiple visitations and was left in the beer garden to sort himself out. Fortunately he has his own floodlights. They reported that they had met local indoor cycling warrior OD at the roundabout astride Penelope.  OD, described by the peloton as a mess of sweat and bile, had come to taunt them from his Cath Kidston saddle before going home for his tea.  How the mighty fall.

We sampled Billericay Mild, Wily Ol Fox, Yakima Gold and Wibbler's apprentice.  Yakima Gold was the Quaffers' Choice.  Sadly not even Tomsk could be persuaded into the Wibbler's Wobbly Mouse at 12% :o

In an alarming turn of events, the deputy treasurer announced that the curry fund now stood at exactly nil.  Our compliance officer, Tippers, is undertaking an urgent audit of the Kiitty Kitty.

Much forward planning took place, stretching as far as LEL 2017.  DL is considering it as a new target for his audax debut.  We also had the Hustler uncharacteristically breaking cover in announcing his bid for RRTY.  However most of the planning was reserved for the BCM.  It looks like I will have Tomsk,Tippers, Sister Carol, Huggy, Bobb and Raymond for company.  In a late development, Tomsk may also have persuaded Jiber to join the fun.  We await Tomsk's mid-Essex BCM thread for more planning.

With 9 of us out and a nice pub it was another successful night all round.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 09:18:53 am
In an alarming turn of events, the deputy treasurer announced that the curry fund now stood at exactly nil.  Our compliance officer, Tippers, is undertaking an urgent audit of the Kiitty Kitty.

OD will need to be informed of this turn of events it smacks of IAAF, FIFA and now even Tennisesq style corruption but I'm sure Tippers will no doubt undertake a full audit to establish what has taken place  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 09:25:34 am
Apparently Tippers is quite the procedural guru.  He entertained Jiber with his detailed views on compliance procedures during a recent trip back from Dunmow  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 09:27:05 am
Apparently Tippers is quite the procedural guru.  He entertained Jiber with his detailed views on compliance procedures during a recent trip back from Dunmow  :facepalm:

Ah but was it as entertaining as your witnessing of the Andy & Bobb's Dick Turpin off........
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 28, 2016, 09:29:10 am
After popping in briefing to huggy Towers the trip to the tip went very well although I did have to wait in the drizzle whilst some bins were compacted and others changed.   5 miles!  All recorded on Strava - naturally.  I love utility cycling  ;D

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2496_zps6g2xtksh.jpg)

http://elephantbike.co.uk/
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 09:37:31 am
^^^^^ Ted was seriously concerned about this photo as to what the tip guys must have thought when OD whipped out his camera and started an impromptu photoshoot at the tip! Particularly with that Cath Kidson seat cover  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 09:46:39 am
I bet they were wandering off to their little hut in case he asked them for a hand with getting such a heavy item into the metal bin  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 28, 2016, 10:43:11 am
I had no tip related issues whatsoever!  Everyone loves Penelope!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 10:56:05 am
Jiber's link to the elephant bikes is a worthy cause.  I like practical solutions like that rather than just sticking money into a massive political organisation that was once a charity.

You could respray powder blue, it would really set off your saddle.  I suppose with the distances you now ride Penelope could be your only bike.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 28, 2016, 11:07:02 am
Had l known about Elephant Bikes prior to buying Penelope I would probably of got one, I think it's a great project and I have already sent bikes to Africa.  Penelope was something of an impulse eBay purchase whilst getting increasingly bored on Christmas Day. That said I don't regret buying Penelope and love her dearly.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 11:09:41 am
Saddle aside, Penelope is quite cool.  I can't really think of an excuse to get one though.  Unless I got one for the girls for going up to the stables...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 11:15:04 am
Saddle aside, Penelope is quite cool.  I can't really think of an excuse to get one though.  Unless I got one for the girls for going up to the stables...

Follow OD's example trips for shopping or the local tip and you can then retire from MEMWNS to start spinning instead  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 11:42:01 am
They do look ace and it would be nice to spend the winter indoors with a load of sweaty people.  I could just pretend to be in Wales and do an extra long session in May.  I would need to move closer to a gym though.  Decisions, decisions.

I need to work out whether the 22" will still fit my two younger daughters giving me the excuse to have one.  I am tempted, by the bike anyway.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 11:48:39 am
I would need to move closer to a gym though.  Decisions, decisions.

www.theloftgym.com (http://www.theloftgym.com)  ;D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 12:20:04 pm
I would need to move closer to a gym though.  Decisions, decisions.

www.theloftgym.com (http://www.theloftgym.com)  ;D  :thumbsup:

Ah yes, well done young Sherlock.  No spinning though and I might bump into people from Mersea.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 12:30:21 pm
Ah yes, well done young Sherlock.  No spinning though and I might bump into people from Mersea.

Put it forward as a condition of your membership that they must have a spinning bike...... and for the latter why not use a disguise, beard  ???
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 12:41:36 pm
I could borrow Jiber's I suppose
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 28, 2016, 12:41:53 pm
Gosh, if the website photos are anything to go by clientele is well fit! ted and his asymmetrically hairy ears should fit right in!  I wish I was a beautiful person! 
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 12:47:51 pm
Stick with me and my freshly trimmed ears and at least people will see that you know beautiful people.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 12:49:37 pm
Gosh, if the website photos are anything to go by clientele is well fit! ted and his asymmetrically hairy ears should fit right in!  I wish I was a beautiful person! 

Ted is very TOWIE OD he just puts that funny accent on from his time in Surrey (as himself and Jiber took great delight in pointing out to us all last night!)  ::-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 28, 2016, 01:11:58 pm
Stick with me and my freshly trimmed ears and at least people will see that you know beautiful people.

I never get board of this one...:

(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xft1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12277369_184739178536232_1121379173_n.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 01:13:16 pm
I never get board of this one...:

(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xft1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12277369_184739178536232_1121379173_n.jpg)

I'm not sure if he's trying to tell you something Ted  ???
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 28, 2016, 01:13:34 pm
Though this would have been better for the cock-womble encounter with eco-bike-warrior himself this morning, how I showed so much restraint and didn't lump him on I don't know!

(http://lolpics.se/pics/73893.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on January 28, 2016, 01:14:12 pm
I never get board of this one...:

(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xft1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12277369_184739178536232_1121379173_n.jpg)

I'm not sure if he's trying to tell you something Ted  ???

Stop stirring, we've lived in Slurrey don't you know!!!!!1111
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 01:15:27 pm
Though this would have been better for the cock-womble encounter with eco-bike-warrior himself this morning, how I showed so much restraint and didn't lump him on I don't know!

(http://lolpics.se/pics/73893.jpg)

Uh oh that's given OD idea's any idea if he could buy one of these on Ebay?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 01:19:30 pm
I never get board of this one...:

(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xft1/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/12277369_184739178536232_1121379173_n.jpg)

I'm not sure if he's trying to tell you something Ted  ???

The three of us are the most dapper members of the peloton.  He just can't get his round the fact that we don't accessorise as well.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 01:22:22 pm
^^^^^ the bumblebee has colour co-ordinated water bottles does that count?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 01:24:14 pm
^^^^^ the bumblebee has colour co-ordinated water bottles does that count?

and tyres if I remember

Jiber's Rose has co-ordinated bottles, valve caps, cages, bar tape, saddle, cables, cranks and outfits and accessories to match.

Well, probably, it's a while since I saw him on it.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 01:26:29 pm
^^^^^ the bumblebee has colour co-ordinated water bottles does that count?

and tyres if I remember

Jiber's Rose has co-ordinated bottles, valve caps, cages, bar tape, saddle, cables, cranks and outfits and accessories to match.

Well, probably, it's a while since I saw him on it.

Yes correct the tyres also match as they do on the Pinnacle.

Ah but he doesn't have a Cath Kidson flowery seat cover to keep his seat dry does he!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 01:56:43 pm
No, but he probably has a luminous yellow Gore one at a guess.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 02:00:45 pm
No, but he probably has a luminous yellow Gore one at a guess.

As a Gore ambassador I would expect no less...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 04:22:54 pm
Oops, I may have accidentally on purpose just bought an elephant bike.

Damn you Jiberjaber.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 04:25:19 pm
Oops, I may have accidentally on purpose just bought an elephant bike.

Damn you Jiberjaber.

I can't wait to hear what Mrs T says about that one!  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 04:27:49 pm
It's sort of for her.  Except she already has a bike with a basket so maybe it's for one of the girls.

If I can fit on it and I am allowed to keep it, I will ride it on an MEMWNS night, maybe the night we go to the Yacht Club  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 04:29:10 pm
It's sort of for her.  Except she already has a bike with a basket so maybe it's for one of the girls.

If I can fit on it and I am allowed to keep it, I will ride it on an MEMWNS night, maybe the night we go to the Yacht Club  ;D

And never forget the get out clause is 'Oaky made me.......' I thought you might take it for a spin up TMNH!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 07:33:57 pm
Double oops.

I appear to have bought a second Elephant Bike  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 08:11:16 pm
As you have all this money to throw around make it a hat trick and buy me one please
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 28, 2016, 08:16:38 pm
I have had to agree to sell two bikes to pay for them. They are also in girlie colours. Will still ride them though.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 28, 2016, 08:45:07 pm
Why not you and OD will look lovely riding along with your matching Cath Kidson seat covers and flowers in your hair
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 29, 2016, 09:21:52 am
Double oops.

I appear to have bought a second Elephant Bike  :o

Really?!!?

How splendid is that!!!  You'll have to let another member of the peloton ride the second and I'll bring Penelope as well.  rr occasionally of this parish also has one so that'll make four!!!  This is majorly exciting!  You see, I AM INSPIRATIONAL after all   ;D

By the way, I am awheel tomorrow morning early on.  Details HERE (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=94455.50) in cased you missed it.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 29, 2016, 09:23:51 am
DL is apparently a regular at the Cath Kidston store at Covent Garden and has volunteered to source a couple of saddle covers.

Do you happen to know what frame size your bike is ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 29, 2016, 09:28:01 am
I think they are one size fits all. Mine is a tad too small, not that it matters. It's not as if I'm planning on doing the BCM on it but don't let that put you off trying  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 29, 2016, 09:30:17 am
DL is apparently a regular at the Cath Kidston store at Covent Garden and has volunteered to source a couple of saddle covers.

Do you happen to know what frame size your bike is ?

Having researched their online store it doesn't appear they do them anymore, OD must have a limited edition.... best you get onto Ebay for a pair
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 29, 2016, 09:32:38 am
They come in 18" and 22" frames.  I suspect yours is the smaller as the latter would appear to stretch to fit giants.

Being of shorter stature than you, I would expect to be able to ride one of the 18" bikes I have ordered for at least enough distance to get me to an MEMWNS pub at some point. I have pastel blue and deep turquoise on order so I should look very Glaswegian out there  :thumbsup:

Having researched their online store it doesn't appear they do them anymore, OD must have a limited edition.... best you get onto Ebay for a pair

You can probably sew me up a pair from one of the many Cath Kidston items that you have in your collection.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 29, 2016, 09:34:18 am
Panic over:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BASIL-LADIES-SADDLE-SEAT-COVER-BIKE-CYCLE-BICYCLE-LADIES-GIRLS-/380848615711?var=&hash=item58ac58b11f:m:mEzj794iTh5FOvZ9AdlSJgw (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BASIL-LADIES-SADDLE-SEAT-COVER-BIKE-CYCLE-BICYCLE-LADIES-GIRLS-/380848615711?var=&hash=item58ac58b11f:m:mEzj794iTh5FOvZ9AdlSJgw)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 29, 2016, 09:36:02 am
You can probably sew me up a pair from one of the many Cath Kidston items that you have in your collection.

Not sure that a ladies handbag is that easy to sew into a seat cover  ::-)

Panic over:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BASIL-LADIES-SADDLE-SEAT-COVER-BIKE-CYCLE-BICYCLE-LADIES-GIRLS-/380848615711?var=&hash=item58ac58b11f:m:mEzj794iTh5FOvZ9AdlSJgw (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BASIL-LADIES-SADDLE-SEAT-COVER-BIKE-CYCLE-BICYCLE-LADIES-GIRLS-/380848615711?var=&hash=item58ac58b11f:m:mEzj794iTh5FOvZ9AdlSJgw)

 :thumbsup: I have no doubt yourself and OD will look very fetching with your his n hers  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on January 29, 2016, 09:36:59 am
Or, indeed, hers and hers.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on January 29, 2016, 09:37:35 am
Or, indeed, hers and hers.

 ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on January 31, 2016, 08:42:35 am
THIS (http://m.maldonandburnhamstandard.co.uk/news/14218554.Sausage_and_Cider_Festival_set_for_South_Essex/) has got the go ahead, more details coming out soon.

First May Bank Holiday, cider, sausages, camping, family oriented.  Sounds promising!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 02, 2016, 09:40:05 am
This is for the MEMWNS technical team.  DL, that is not you  :facepalm:

My Flyer still has the stock wheels and chainset which, not fantastic hubs in the wet apart, have been fine for winter.  When I sell the Equilibrium I would like to use whatever of the proceeds I am allowed to keep on some upgrades.  I would like some lighter summer wheels.  Should I go for a 1/8 set up or stick with the 3/32 I have now which would make swapping back in the winter easier ?  Which hubs, what bottom bracket, chainset etc ?

Thoughts ?

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 02, 2016, 09:42:36 am
This is for the MEMWNS technical team.  DL, that is not you  :facepalm:

What you actually meant was this is for MEMWNS technical team the BFC! I'm happy to give you some advice on how not to go swimming on a ride when not partaking in a triathlon  O:-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 02, 2016, 10:38:24 am
Tomsk and Oaky are audax legends on fixed steeds and their input would also be helpful.

I know I won't get round an SR unless I improve my fitness and the bike.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 02, 2016, 10:42:26 am
I know I won't get round an SR unless I improve my fitness and the bike.

Have you thought about popping Lance a line? That's as in Armstrong not OD who I know is now pumping out the high watts and cadence with his new spinning regime
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 02, 2016, 10:52:38 am
I will leave the indoor stuff to our very own constant 110rpm man OD.

Did I not specifically ask you not to get involved in the technical stuff I wanted to know about and leave a bit of bandwidth for people who know what they are talking about  >:(
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 02, 2016, 10:58:15 am
I will leave the indoor stuff to our very own constant 110rpm man OD.

Or Jiberjaber who is consistently smashing out the Sufferfest videos on Trainer Roads these days, maybe another potential for you in Ted's Cave

Did I not specifically ask you not to get involved in the technical stuff I wanted to know about and leave a bit of bandwidth for people who know what they are talking about  >:(

I think they're all ignoring you mate (sorry to be the bearer of bad news) have a chat with the BFC tomorrow night if he is in attendance after all he is your fixed guru  :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 02, 2016, 11:02:39 am
Or maybe they actually have work to do or possibly can't get a word in edgeways ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 02, 2016, 11:04:16 am
Or maybe they actually have work to do or possibly can't get a word in edgeways ?

What about multi-tasking? Granted you do have a lot to say on here  >:(
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 02, 2016, 12:26:45 pm
Ted, re the Domane Headset bearings....The Cane Creek tool to find the bearings works for the top one but not the bottom. After a couple of failed attempts I ended up calling Thomas's and just getting it from them, they got it right first time and the price was reasonable. Installing is easy, no pressing etc.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 02, 2016, 01:19:19 pm
Re chainsets ted. I've always used Stronglights from Spa Cycles but then again I've always used square taper cartridge type bottom brackets. I've no experience of external bearing BBs, although huggy has. Stronglight have a range of chainsets from quite basic to quite bling.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 02, 2016, 02:01:30 pm
OD it appears that we have been doing the 'MEMWNS Initiation' all wrong........  :facepalm: Isn't this how we are supposed to be doing it!?

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/nettienoodles/DSC02060.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on February 02, 2016, 03:39:45 pm
This is for the MEMWNS technical team.  DL, that is not you  :facepalm:

My Flyer still has the stock wheels and chainset which, not fantastic hubs in the wet apart, have been fine for winter.  When I sell the Equilibrium I would like to use whatever of the proceeds I am allowed to keep on some upgrades.  I would like some lighter summer wheels.  Should I go for a 1/8 set up or stick with the 3/32 I have now which would make swapping back in the winter easier ?  Which hubs, what bottom bracket, chainset etc ?

Thoughts ?

You can run a 1/8 chain on 3/32 cogs/chainrings, but not the other way round. May be a bit noisier...

You might be able to get/improvise better sealing arrangements for your Flyer's original hubs: oil soaked string wrapped tight and thick around the axle was the old skool solution. Francis Thurmer's 'Hard to Find' catalogue used to do foam rings that did the same job, before I invested in grease injection conversion for unsealed hubs, back in the day...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 02, 2016, 04:04:49 pm
OD it appears that we have been doing the 'MEMWNS Initiation' all wrong........  :facepalm: Isn't this how we are supposed to be doing it!?

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/nettienoodles/DSC02060.jpg)

Blimey, where did that photo come from?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 02, 2016, 04:09:35 pm
I stumbled across it in the Caption It thread  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 02, 2016, 07:42:00 pm
This is for the MEMWNS technical team.  DL, that is not you  :facepalm:

My Flyer still has the stock wheels and chainset which, not fantastic hubs in the wet apart, have been fine for winter.  When I sell the Equilibrium I would like to use whatever of the proceeds I am allowed to keep on some upgrades.  I would like some lighter summer wheels.  Should I go for a 1/8 set up or stick with the 3/32 I have now which would make swapping back in the winter easier ?  Which hubs, what bottom bracket, chainset etc ?

Thoughts ?

You can run a 1/8 chain on 3/32 cogs/chainrings, but not the other way round. May be a bit noisier...

You might be able to get/improvise better sealing arrangements for your Flyer's original hubs: oil soaked string wrapped tight and thick around the axle was the old skool solution. Francis Thurmer's 'Hard to Find' catalogue used to do foam rings that did the same job, before I invested in grease injection conversion for unsealed hubs, back in the day...

Similar to foam rings out of a CDROM pack?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: BFC on February 02, 2016, 08:00:09 pm
My Flyer still has the stock wheels and chainset which, not fantastic hubs in the wet apart, have been fine for winter.  When I sell the Equilibrium I would like to use whatever of the proceeds I am allowed to keep on some upgrades.  I would like some lighter summer wheels.  Should I go for a 1/8 set up or stick with the 3/32 I have now which would make swapping back in the winter easier ?  Which hubs, what bottom bracket, chainset etc ?

For hubs/wheels most designed for outdoor use (rather than velodrome) have sealed cartridge bearings. Avoid Shimano DA or Campag Record for outdoor use - they are track specific and don't even have dust covers. On my Bianchi Pista I have had the rear sealed bearings fail in 3 weeks due to water ingress, replacement stainless units last for years and are easy to change plus cheap. If budget is not an issue look at Phil Wood hubs. I assume hub OLN (over lock nut) dimension is track/fixed standard of 120mm for your bike, so avoid NJS (Japanese Keirin specific 110mm) or road single speed conversion (126mm, 130mm, 135mm) hubs. Front hub is same as road standard of 100mm OLN, so dynamo conversion is an option.

Cranks and BB can be upgraded, but square tape can be a nightmare with two standards of taper (JIS or ISO). Chainrings can be replaced easily with 3/22nd or 1/8th, just need to know or measure the Bolt Circle Diameter (BCD) for your cranks. Chainline for fixed is typically 42mm. Sugino cranks are beautifully made but expensive and OTT for outdoor winter use. Fixed BBs tend to be shorter than standard road double/triple variants. And of course there are the multiple standards of BB shells - I expect you have a BSA set up with 68mm shell width.

3/32nd transmission tends to wear the chains rollers away from the inside quicker than 1/8th. Replace chain with a single speed variant - a 3/32 derailleur designed chain stretches a lot quicker. Track cogs are easy to change with a chain whip  but watch knuckles on the spokes and concrete - the cogs can be very tight (locking the chain whip in a vice is recommended). If running 1/8th cogs a 1/8th chain whip is required which are as common as rocking horse poo on the major retailers websites. Miche track cogs are worth considering - they fit onto a splined carrier which overcomes the need to unscrew the carrier each time the cog is changed.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 02, 2016, 08:12:02 pm
Well there you have it!  The oracle has spoken, very impressive!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 02, 2016, 08:41:03 pm
There we go Ted as I said in the first place you only needed to ask the BFC
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 02, 2016, 08:43:07 pm
You can explain it all to me.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 02, 2016, 09:00:43 pm
I haven't read it all though as I didn't ask the question
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 02, 2016, 09:10:57 pm
You can explain it all to me.

Easy, give your bike to BFC for a week or two and return with a wad of cash. Job done!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on February 03, 2016, 09:04:28 am
Re: 1/8 chainwhips: 'as common as rocking horse poo' - indeed, I bodged one by substituting an old bit of 1/8 chain for the original, using nothing more sophisticated than a large hammer to force the pins through the holes in the handle...this was a very old and simple design - modern ones might not be so forgiving!

...an alternative to a vice to hold it, is a length of copper pipe or similar, fitted over the handle for greater leverage, failing that a few taps with a mallet on the end should get a cog moving. Hand and eye protection might be a good idea, as things tend to move suddenly  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on February 03, 2016, 09:10:01 am
I've never had a chain whip that wasn't 1/8"! My weapon of choice these days is the Shimano track tool...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 03, 2016, 09:20:19 am
Good grief!  I thought going fixed simplified your life!  I'm sticking with gears, far less complex and I appear to have all the right tools.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 03, 2016, 09:35:01 am
Good grief!  I thought going fixed simplified your life!  I'm sticking with gears, far less complex and I appear to have all the right tools.
But you are missing out on all this technical fun.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 03, 2016, 09:44:05 am
Good grief!  I thought going fixed simplified your life!  I'm sticking with gears, far less complex and I appear to have all the right tools.
But you are missing out on all this technical fun.

There is a sufficiency of fun in my life thank you.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 03, 2016, 10:20:21 am
Penelope sees to all your needs does she ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 03, 2016, 02:24:07 pm
Ted's our MEMWNS version of an F1 driver..... no doubt he will be chatting to his Chief engineer the BFC tonight about the upgrade package for his machine, I just hope he has taken the time to read all the material up thread from the BFC of said suggestions!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 03, 2016, 02:37:25 pm
This is a fantastic tool, much easier than a chain whip. About £11.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160203/21eba02eef05a8632e267efd6d65a402.jpg)

*edit*
As long as you have 11, 12, 13 or 14t cog :D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 03, 2016, 02:46:03 pm
So anyway....after Christophe's Bike not quite feeling right I have been on a mission to sort myself out with a Fixie and things have taken shape quite nicely. Unfortunately I do have to wait until April for my Cycle Scheme voucher but the trigger is all but pulled so I will be learning to ride with no gears for the majority of the summer (might try and aim for the Flitch 200 as a first Audax....or Hereward the Wake because 200 just ain't hard enough  :facepalm:)

Planning on going the Genesis Day One Decade frame and set up and wheels with the same rims as my Croix and Surly Hubs. Miche Crankset and thinking I will probably go 47T chain ring with 16/17/18 tooth cogs to have a bit of range to play with......and Tubeless Tyres because they don't puncture :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 03, 2016, 03:03:49 pm
47x16, go Tippers !
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 03, 2016, 03:24:52 pm
We'll see where I end up....I suspect it might be the 47/17.  The 47/18 last week felt a little bit under but then I have no idea what the extra few inches means in effort terms....you can laugh at my learning curve!

What are you running on the flyer?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on February 03, 2016, 03:36:04 pm
We'll see where I end up....I suspect it might be the 47/17.  The 47/18 last week felt a little bit under but then I have no idea what the extra few inches means in effort terms....you can laugh at my learning curve!


I would say 47/17 is a fast summer gear. Perfectly doable though - a ran 48/17 for years but more recently, 48/19 - which is nice and spinny for winter...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 03, 2016, 03:50:22 pm
Cool. I generally push a slightly larger gear anyway so I think the combination I am looking at will do OK for a start. I know it doesn't compare directly but I have been working back from the gears I can deal with on the geared bike and kind of taking the Gear Inches from that as a guide to know where to start.

2 whole months to be changing my mind  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: BFC on February 03, 2016, 05:57:19 pm
I have tried 48/14, a bit of a pig up North Hill though.

Current favorite for the summer fixed is 49/15 with 17 cog on the other side of the hub for limp home mode.
The winter rig is currently running 48/19 - trying to finish off the 3/32nd bits before changing to a 47 tooth 1/8th ring.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on February 03, 2016, 10:13:14 pm
So anyway....after Christophe's Bike not quite feeling right I have been on a mission to sort myself out with a Fixie and things have taken shape quite nicely. Unfortunately I do have to wait until April for my Cycle Scheme voucher but the trigger is all but pulled so I will be learning to ride with no gears for the majority of the summer (might try and aim for the Flitch 200 as a first Audax....or Hereward the Wake because 200 just ain't hard enough  :facepalm:)

Hereward was my first fixed brevet.  Ideally suited, I'd say.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 04, 2016, 06:43:47 am
I am running 46x18 which is ok for now.  May go to 16 in the summer.  I am aiming to do G&Y, A&S and Flatlands as a fixed SR  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 04, 2016, 10:39:44 am
48/14 it is then, I'll just avoid North Hill (and several others) ;D

Going on what I have read and knowing that I usually like to push a slightly bigger gear anyway I think I will stick with the 48 that has been suggested to me on the Front and get 3 cogs of 16, 17 and 18 or 19 which I think will probably give me what I need to start with.

I have been using the All City Gear Calculator (http://allcitycycles.com/calc) and I am making the assumption that Skid Patches will be irrelevant as I have not intention of skidding...well no on the bike anyway...I'm sure I'll have a few moments while I learn that might have skid patches elsewhere :facepalm:

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on February 04, 2016, 01:19:29 pm
I completely ignored skid patches when choosing ... the only times I've ever skidded the rear have been a couple of forgetting to pedal moments a long time back.  I figure following OD routes down Tyre Mangler's Lane etc. has much more bearing on the state of my rubber than a once in a blue moon accidental fixie skid.

BTW - I run 42x16 all year round.  (I am quite spinny, though).
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 04, 2016, 01:31:59 pm
I figure following OD routes down Tyre Mangler's Lane etc. has much more bearing on the state of my rubber than a once in a blue moon accidental fixie skid.

If OD had his way Oaky the whole peloton would be running Marathon +'s  ::-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 04, 2016, 02:56:25 pm
Tubeless is the way forward, I tell you!

What I have come to learn about tubeless is that getting punctures leads to white fluid around parts of the bike and some very awkward looks from your fellow cyclists.

I do get the Marathon + thing, it makes perfect sense but since they squashed my wheel (probably not helped by the fact I put 18 stone on top of the squash) I figured I might as well look for an alternative. Others have thousands of miles on Tubeless and I do think with my new tape in I will be fine. I think it was the tape being a bit to narrow on the rim that was causing most of the good stuff (the blocking agent essentially) to be used sealing around the tape. Since redoing it last week they have lost bugger all pressure and I must the the ride on the Hutchinson's is very smooth and pretty darn quick. I think the Fixie might end up getting them Hutchinsons and the Criox will become the recipient of my very lovely Schwalbe S-Ones that are on the shelf at the moment.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 05, 2016, 11:54:06 am
Ted, not sure if you have decided on the wheels but I have to say Malcolm at the Cycle Clinic up in Glemsford is probably worth speak to. I think his prices are pretty reasonable and he is a bit less fixated on specific products like others I have found can be (Harry Rowland springs to mind). I am going to stick with the Pacenti rims for N+1 as I like them on the Croix. Stiff, Light, slightly deep section and I personally like the fact you can remove the Decals and have a plain black rim. They do a non disc version as well (SL23) but Malcolm has a lot of rims in stock and wheel building is his 'thing'.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 05, 2016, 11:59:18 am
Ted, not sure if you have decided on the wheels but I have to say Malcolm at the Cycle Clinic up in Glemsford is probably worth speak to. I think his prices are pretty reasonable and he is a bit less fixated on specific products like others I have found can be (Harry Rowland springs to mind). I am going to stick with the Pacenti rims for N+1 as I like them on the Croix. Stiff, Light, slightly deep section and I personally like the fact you can remove the Decals and have a plain black rim. They do a non disc version as well (SL23) but Malcolm has a lot of rims in stock and wheel building is his 'thing'.

One day I must get myself up to Malcom's at Glemsford.  He sounds like a useful chap to know.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 05, 2016, 12:06:59 pm
indeed he is. And his shop is like the ultimate cyclists Man cave. His collection of bikes alone is a joy to look at, it took me a while to twig they were all his and not client bikes in for repair or service.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 05, 2016, 12:14:51 pm
I know Malcolm reasonably well.

Funnily enough, I asked him to service my Harry Rowland wheels for me.  After the usual huffing and puffing about Open Pro rims and how tight Harry had tuned the spokes, he did actually say they were very well built wheels.  He was amazed at the condition they were in after all the abuse they had taken and barely charged me for servicing them.

Malcolm does a lot of time trialling on fixed so I might just get him to do the honours. It was he who recommended the Flyer in the first place.

I quite fancy the Pacenti rims (or Pancetta rims as OD calls them  :facepalm:).  It's the hubs I need the advice on.  Tempted to go tubeless on the fixed though after the palaver in changing the tube on the rear wheel during the DTDO ride. 

I have a severe hankering for a really light bike with really light wheels to play on in the summer.  All I need to save is all the money it would cost  :'(
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 05, 2016, 12:23:18 pm
It's the hubs I need the advice on.

I thought your chief engineer had provided all the information you required earlier in the week  ??? Do you need more from him then........

I have a severe hankering for a really light bike with really light wheels to play on in the summer.  All I need to save is all the money it would cost  :'(

Why don't you go direct with Canyon or Rose even Condor/Planet X and Schils worth considering. Alternatively the brother of my colleague still has his Emonda for sale £5.5/6k  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 05, 2016, 12:26:49 pm
Funnily enough, I asked him to service my Harry Rowland wheels for me.  After the usual huffing and puffing about Open Pro rims and how tight Harry had tuned the spokes, he did actually say they were very well built wheels.  He was amazed at the condition they were in after all the abuse they had taken and barely charged me for servicing them.

That's heartening to know.  Yes I know Harry is a bit grumpy (which is one of the reasons I like him) but his wheels are amazing in my experience.  With my love of CORing I too give wheels abuse and have yet to break a Harry hoop or even a spoke.  Harry did once tell me about what he does with spoke tension, it went over my head but he clearly has a special method.

As much as I rave about Harry hoops I've never has hand built wheels from anyone else so Malcolm's hoops could be every bit as good.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 05, 2016, 12:27:54 pm
I've just put a post ont he MEBS thread about heading up to Glemsford next Saturday for anyone interested.

On hubs, White Industries, Phil Wood, Paul and Chris Kind all came with good recommendations. All pricey (some more than others) but for the Disc versions I was out of luck. White industries don't do a disc version, Paul and Phil no stock and Chris King just plain out of budget. White Industries ENO looks pretty good and after thinking about it I quite liked the fact they have a splined cog holder instead of a thread on (kind of like the Miche carrier that the BFC suggested) but that all came crashing down when I realised they only did disc for freewheels! I was getting ready to go for a full White Industries drive train, the Cranks look lovely and I think their idea with the Chainrings also being splined is quite good (not that I have much experience).

I am kind of glad it didn't work out as the drive train and hubs had well overtaken the cost of the frame and other bits! Specing components is a very dangerous business!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 05, 2016, 12:32:56 pm
Funnily enough, I asked him to service my Harry Rowland wheels for me.  After the usual huffing and puffing about Open Pro rims and how tight Harry had tuned the spokes, he did actually say they were very well built wheels.  He was amazed at the condition they were in after all the abuse they had taken and barely charged me for servicing them.

That's heartening to know.  Yes I know Harry is a bit grumpy (which is one of the reasons I like him) but his wheels are amazing in my experience.  With my love of CORing I too give wheels abuse and have yet to break a Harry hoop or even a spoke.  Harry did once tell me about what he does with spoke tension, it went over my head but he clearly has a special method.

As much as I rave about Harry hoops I've never has hand built wheels from anyone else so Malcolm's hoops could be every bit as good.
Agreed, nothing against harry and the wheels he built for me were brilliant, until my home mechanicing fucked them up, Twice! He never answered my last email, I suspect he gave up on me, in a way that was the preferable option :-).

Where I got a bit put off was when I was after disc wheels and he still pushed down the rim brake rims, while I know that works and good rims are good rimes the whole idea of the discs is that you can get some benefit from not have to build the rim with the brake track and that was what I was keen to stick to, I don't expect I can feel any difference but I just fancied a wheel with no shinny brake track on it. Add to that Malcolm is a nice drive or ride away and that is what won it for me.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on February 05, 2016, 03:07:48 pm
HR sounds like a bit of a bellend to me. He seems to insist on building the wheels that he wants, rather than what his customers actually want...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 05, 2016, 03:09:57 pm
He's an interesting guy.  Seems to know all sorts of people in the world of cycling.

However, like all people who work for themselves at home  O:-), there is a bit of a cranky side (no pun intended) and he is set in his ways.

My wheels have been brilliant and they were not expensive.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 05, 2016, 03:26:53 pm
HR sounds like a bit of a bellend to me. He seems to insist on building the wheels that he wants, rather than what his customers actually want...
I think there is some truth to that BUT, I also think that sometimes what his customers want is just wrong and he is not afraid to tell them so. This is actually a good thing I think and if you don't like it you will only ever speak to him once.

He has his trusted components and he seems to stick to them which I guess has it's good sides but with technology moving things on I think you have to be willing to try new things and that is why I ended up speaking to Malcolm and going with his recommendations.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 05, 2016, 03:31:25 pm
He certainly has some firm opinions about various components and isn't afraid to voice them, it's quite amusing when he gets going.

He is also fairly firm about what people should be riding in terms of the strength of the wheels versus their weight, again quite amusing.

He was also a frame builder in the past so has a pretty good understanding of what is what.

Bobb is ignoring my dig about people who work for themselves at home  ;D  In fact HR is a very nice chap.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 05, 2016, 03:36:58 pm
He certainly has some firm opinions about various components and isn't afraid to voice them, it's quite amusing when he gets going.

He is also fairly firm about what people should be riding in terms of the strength of the wheels versus their weight, again quite amusing.

He was also a frame builder in the past so has a pretty good understanding of what is what.

Bobb is ignoring my dig about people who work for themselves at home  ;D  In fact HR is a very nice chap.
I thought you were talking about yourself.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on February 05, 2016, 03:37:25 pm
Bobb is ignoring my dig about people who work for themselves at home  ;D

 :P

I'm sure HR is a wonderful chap and obvioulsy builds fine wheels.

One of the reasons I stopped getting my wheels built by Chelmer Cycles was the intolerable bullshit you had to go through when speccing your wheels: "You don't want that, you want this..." etc... I know what I want thank you very much, just fucking build them or I'll go elsewhere!

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 05, 2016, 03:49:21 pm
What was I saying about cranky ?

The difference is, of course, that I don't have a clue so am quite happy to be led by people who sound like they might have.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 05, 2016, 04:17:41 pm
Oh yeah...anyone up for the Colchester Rovers Reliability Ride....looks like it might be a bit of a blow out to get Gold or Silver! (28th Feb from Great Bromley) It had been posted on the Witham Cycling Facebook page.

50 MILES EVENT

GOLD AWARD ~ 2hrs 30mins

SILVER AWARD ~ 2hrs 45mins

BRONZE AWARD ~ No Time Limit

More Details (http://www.colchester-rovers.org.uk/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1&cntnt01returnid=57)


Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 05, 2016, 04:25:23 pm
That is more the style for the two Doggers - Danbury and Lane.

They love a bit of sportive posturing.

There is a Revolution ride the week before when we are doing the brazier.  The 50 mile route gold group has to maintain and 18mph average.  DL would love it.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 05, 2016, 04:41:59 pm

Oh yeah...anyone up for the Colchester Rovers Reliability Ride....looks like it might be a bit of a blow out to get Gold or Silver! (28th Feb from Great Bromley) It had been posted on the Witham Cycling Facebook page.

50 MILES EVENT

GOLD AWARD ~ 2hrs 30mins

SILVER AWARD ~ 2hrs 45mins

BRONZE AWARD ~ No Time Limit

More Details (http://www.colchester-rovers.org.uk/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=1&cntnt01returnid=57)

In all seriousness if anyone fancies 'going for gold' there appears to be an informal MADCC group forming to have a go with anyone welcome to join in and not expected to take a turn on the front!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 05, 2016, 04:43:09 pm

There is a Revolution ride the week before when we are doing the brazier.  The 50 mile route gold group has to maintain and 18mph average.  DL would love it.

Are you aiming to average 18mph on fixed or with gears?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 05, 2016, 04:46:37 pm



Are you aiming to average 18mph on fixed or with gears?

I am aiming to ride to the 'Uts and do the Brazier ride as an ECE.  It's part of my I'm not doing RRTY program.

When I get there I will be mainly riding at a slower speed than Tomsk's gang of audax royalty were going at last month.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on February 05, 2016, 10:50:39 pm



Are you aiming to average 18mph on fixed or with gears?

I am aiming to ride to the 'Uts and do the Brazier ride as an ECE.  It's part of my I'm not doing RRTY program.

When I get there I will be mainly riding at a slower speed than Tomsk's gang of audax royalty were going at last month.




I've just entered Braziers Run and rather wonderfully its 51km from the cashpoint on Nayland road Coop to the Uts! (according to google maps, walking) I just need to get my head around the ece form and ride proof.

Do I need gps track proof? How do I send this to the ece organiser? Can I just use cashpoint receipts as proof of passage? Any advice gratefully accepted.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 05, 2016, 11:56:14 pm
Tipper, Tomsk - over to you to advise Sister Carol...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 06, 2016, 08:38:10 am
Carlos, if you go electronic brevet you will need the gpx file. If you want to go receipts my understanding is that you need to order the physical brevet through the entry.

Recording the gpx on your phone then exporting it and sending it would work, you only need to record the out and back.

info here (http://www.aukweb.net/diy/ece/) and the rest becomes evident on the entry form.

Tomsk might be able to explain more clearly though  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on February 06, 2016, 10:40:38 am
Carlos, if you go electronic brevet you will need the gpx file. If you want to go receipts my understanding is that you need to order the physical brevet through the entry.

Recording the gpx on your phone then exporting it and sending it would work, you only need to record the out and back.

info here (http://www.aukweb.net/diy/ece/) and the rest becomes evident on the entry form.

Tomsk might be able to explain more clearly though  ;D

Thank's tippers, it seems to make sense now. I'm almost as good at the electronic stuff as I am navigating so I think a physical brevet might be the best option. I'll have a crack at the ece form later this weekend.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 06, 2016, 12:24:42 pm
Carlos, if you go electronic brevet you will need the gpx file. If you want to go receipts my understanding is that you need to order the physical brevet through the entry.

Recording the gpx on your phone then exporting it and sending it would work, you only need to record the out and back.

info here (http://www.aukweb.net/diy/ece/) and the rest becomes evident on the entry form.

Tomsk might be able to explain more clearly though  ;D

So this has confused the heck out of me (though I am full of cold hence one of the reasons I am not out on my bike today...)

Quote
100  0       Extended Calendar Event - Randonnee + 100km       
  200  0       Extended Calendar Event - Randonnee + 200km       
  300  0       Extended Calendar Event - Randonnee + 300km       
  400  0       Extended Calendar Event - Randonnee + 400km       
  500  0       Extended Calendar Event - Randonnee + 500km       
  600  0       Extended Calendar Event - Randonnee + 600km       
  100  0       Extended calendar Event 100km + 100km             
  200  0       Extended Calendar Event 100km + 200km             
  300  0       Extended Calendar Event 100km + 300km             
  400  0       Extended Calendar Event 100km + 400km             

I'm assuming its one of the two red ones above, but which?  the 100km+100km seems to make sense as its a 100km cal event with 2x50k rides involved in getting there and back??
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 06, 2016, 12:30:09 pm
Yep, 100km calendar + 100 km of ECE.

From memory though (need to sort mine this weekend) you just put the name or link for the event and the the start, control and end points for each of your ece legs.

Not to confuse things but an ECE doesn't have to be out and back. You could ride 100km to the start, do the event then get home by other means. Just the total of extra riding will only be done in chunks of 100km.

Sorry, I'm probably doing a Crap job of explaining that
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 06, 2016, 01:28:36 pm
No that's fine Nik, I get the distance bit, I was just being specific to the one we are going to.... :)  I think I have intercept points for your outbound and inbound legs ...  I already have a couple of virtual brevets, assume I just use up one of them?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 06, 2016, 02:27:30 pm
When you apply you shouldnt have to pick I think. Just make sure your ECE total is 100 and that the calendar event name is in the field it needs to be.

The ECE brevet is different to the DIY so you have to pay that on its own.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 06, 2016, 03:16:49 pm
Ah, I see what you are looking at now Jiberjaber.

I have only ever used this link http://www.ukcyclist.co.uk/permanent-events/eceentry (http://www.ukcyclist.co.uk/permanent-events/eceentry)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 06, 2016, 05:16:25 pm
Here is my roughly planned route for the trip to the Cycle Clinic next Saturday. I am planning on leaving around 8 am but flexible on that, just need to be in Glemsford while the shop is open!

I did throw in a little diversion up Spout Lane just north of Bures, I thought that Sudbury to Bures piece looked a little flat!

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/12082210
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 06, 2016, 06:13:13 pm
I quite fancy the Pacenti rims (or Pancetta rims as OD calls them  :facepalm:)

There are times when I don't like you lot as you give me ideas that cost money I'm trying not to spend.

Just supposing I had a hankering to celebrate my forthcoming birthday by furnishing Fred with a second set of wheels for faster, unladened riding and that perhaps Malcolm of Glemsford might be commissioned to build the new wheels.  Furthermore this wheelset would have disc specific rims what could one day take tubeless tyres (yes I know) but for the moment would take the Hamsterskins I have on the shelf (yes I know OK?).

Does the committee think Bacon Wheels would be the best option?  And how much might Malcolm of Glemsford charge me?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 06, 2016, 07:47:21 pm
 ;D I reckon they would be a pretty good option. You would also have to be willing to go to 32 spokes but with them rims...no worries!

Talk to Malcolm, he has other options that are similar.

My Pacenti's have the Novatech disc hubs and I think I paid about 330 for them. I had a special spoke set up with the Sapim strong (triple butted) on the rear drive side.

We can swap wheels for a few miles on a ride if you want to give them a try.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 07, 2016, 08:45:29 am
Do you chaps use SL25 bacon rims?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on February 07, 2016, 09:17:44 am
Do you chaps use SL25 bacon rims?
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Yep, they're  light but strong, my rear one stood up to you beating a huge tyre onto it recently :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 07, 2016, 09:25:49 am
Have you had any punctures since you started using sensible tyres?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 07, 2016, 01:06:17 pm
Yep, I use the Pacenti's and I will get them on the new bike as well.

Bobb has them on his Trips ter too, he had Mike Conwy (http://blog.23mm.co.uk/ (http://blog.23mm.co.uk/) to build his and I have only heard good things about Mike as well. I will stick with Malcolm as he is a nice bike ride away.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 08, 2016, 10:15:18 am
Here is my roughly planned route for the trip to the Cycle Clinic next Saturday. I am planning on leaving around 8 am but flexible on that, just need to be in Glemsford while the shop is open!

I did throw in a little diversion up Spout Lane just north of Bures, I thought that Sudbury to Bures piece looked a little flat!

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/12082210

Route looks good.  8am departure is fine. 

Should we throw in a diversion to Wallys on the way back or did you have something else in mind for breakfast ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 08, 2016, 10:24:34 am
I have emailed Malcolm of Glemsford re a second set of wheels for Fred.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 08, 2016, 10:40:48 am
Here is my roughly planned route for the trip to the Cycle Clinic next Saturday. I am planning on leaving around 8 am but flexible on that, just need to be in Glemsford while the shop is open!

I did throw in a little diversion up Spout Lane just north of Bures, I thought that Sudbury to Bures piece looked a little flat!

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/12082210

Route looks good.  8am departure is fine. 

Should we throw in a diversion to Wallys on the way back or did you have something else in mind for breakfast ?

Wally's is a definite possibility. I was thinking of being rebellious and just finding something in Sudbury but not sure, we can decide on the day. I've opened it up to the Tiptree Velo folk as well so there might be others joining us.

I have emailed Malcolm of Glemsford re a second set of wheels for Fred.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Christophe on February 08, 2016, 10:46:21 am
I quite fancy the Pacenti rims (or Pancetta rims as OD calls them  :facepalm:)

There are times when I don't like you lot as you give me ideas that cost money I'm trying not to spend.

Just supposing I had a hankering to celebrate my forthcoming birthday by furnishing Fred with a second set of wheels for faster, unladened riding and that perhaps Malcolm of Glemsford might be commissioned to build the new wheels.  Furthermore this wheelset would have disc specific rims what could one day take tubeless tyres (yes I know) but for the moment would take the Hamsterskins I have on the shelf (yes I know OK?).

Does the committee think Bacon Wheels would be the best option?  And how much might Malcolm of Glemsford charge me?

I have H Plus SON Archetypes on the fast (crazy as OD has nicknamed it) trucker. Believe they are tubeless friendly. Reading stuff off t'internet they are quite in vogue at the moment and are all black (including braking surface) if you are in to that kind on thing. Although if you use rim brakes they don't stay black  :facepalm: I really like mine and even with regular marathons which I'm currently wintering on they still feel quite fast.
Been reading a lot about this tubeless lark a lot lately so may have to pick Tippers brains at some point. Quite keen on the idea for my next project if it gets off the ground.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 08, 2016, 10:52:32 am
The H-Plus SON Archetype was the Rim I was looking at and Malcolm pointed me to the Pacenti (he had both), can't remember the exact reasons but I think they are indeed VERY similar although I think it goes back to the Pacenti being more disc specific. Will be interesting what OD hears back.

Ted, there is a Weatherspoons (https://www.jdwetherspoon.com/pubs/all-pubs/england/suffolk/grover--allen-sudbury) in Sudbury  ;D . I suspect it will be approaching lunchtime when we get to Sudbury but we can decide that all on the day.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 08, 2016, 10:53:48 am
Those rims look nice Chris but I was after disc specific rims. 

Currently Fred's Harry's have Sputnik rims, so not disc specific, which is fine and they are utterly bomb proof which is what I wanted.  But for the second wheelset I'm after something completely different.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on February 08, 2016, 10:55:06 am
I'm up for an outing on Saturday. The guy at Glemsford might be in for a bit of a shock at the number of people rocking up to his place!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 08, 2016, 10:56:53 am
I have SON on my CdF front disc, black brake surface means it looks like deep section disc wheel. Very robust rim.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 08, 2016, 10:58:06 am
I'm up for an outing on Saturday. The guy at Glemsford might be in for a bit of a shock at the number of people rocking up to his place!

If we weren't away (  >:(  ) I be tempted to come too.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 08, 2016, 11:05:10 am
Sounds good Bobb. I'll drop him a mail and let him know a few of us might be rocking by.

Christophe, happy to go over my learnings on the Tubeless. You might want to wait until I have a few months of not puncturing behind me though  ;D

I have to say, since I put the double layer of Gorilla Tape on and used the Stans Sealant the tyres really are holding air as I would expect them too. The ride is lovely and you do have all that goodness that you get with lightweight supple tyres. The downside is you'll never have that feeling of switching from heavy winter tyres to light summer tyres...oh well!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Christophe on February 08, 2016, 11:18:15 am
Gorilla tape is the way to go apparently. Also been reading about what they call ghetto tubeless using a split inner tube with gorilla tape or insulating foam underneath to make the tyre sit a bit more tightly against the rim. Apparently very good with fat tyres so you can run them at lower pressure than with an inner tube.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 08, 2016, 11:42:17 am
I have the SONs on my Equilibrium Disc.  They do seem fairly bulletproof, but with XT hubs I don't think they are light enough for what I want for the summer on the Flyer.  At least with the Flyer I can have the full selection of fixed hubs as it isn't a disc bike.  Will almost certainly go tubeless as well.  After all, what could possibly go wrong.  It's not as if Tippers has had any trouble...

Tippers, you can deliver a tubeless masterclass on the way to Glemsford.  If you are lucky I will give you a brief synopsis of my photography masterclass from last Wednesday  :facepalm:

I have just found an Emonda SL6 and a Trek Domane 6.2 with substantial savings.  I can't afford a new bike but I want one.  Do I go for the luxury audax option of the 6.2 or just keep the 4.3 and have a nice light summer bike in the SL6 or even a Giant TCR Advanced Pro 1 ?  Probably pie in the sky anyway.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Christophe on February 08, 2016, 11:53:25 am
I Will almost certainly go tubeless as well.  After all, what could possibly go wrong.  It's not as if Tippers has had any trouble...


Seems like Tippers is the guinea pig and we'll all follow once he's sorted and can tell us exactly where not to go wrong!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 08, 2016, 12:02:05 pm
I'm not so sure about the guinea part  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 08, 2016, 01:35:09 pm
I have emailed Malcolm of Glemsford re a second set of wheels for Fred.

Wheels ordered  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 08, 2016, 02:01:26 pm
Excellent....and what was the final verdict? Pacenti Rims, Novatec Hubs and Sapim Race Black spokes?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: TimC on February 08, 2016, 02:32:50 pm
Here is my roughly planned route for the trip to the Cycle Clinic next Saturday. I am planning on leaving around 8 am but flexible on that, just need to be in Glemsford while the shop is open!

I did throw in a little diversion up Spout Lane just north of Bures, I thought that Sudbury to Bures piece looked a little flat!

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/12082210

Looks like you'll be coming past my new front door in Melford. Wave as you pass (52.8km in, on your right). I'll probably be at work, as usual!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 08, 2016, 02:47:17 pm
Here is my roughly planned route for the trip to the Cycle Clinic next Saturday. I am planning on leaving around 8 am but flexible on that, just need to be in Glemsford while the shop is open!

I did throw in a little diversion up Spout Lane just north of Bures, I thought that Sudbury to Bures piece looked a little flat!

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/12082210

Looks like you'll be coming past my new front door in Melford. Wave as you pass (52.8km in, on your right). I'll probably be at work, as usual!
:thumbsup: One day we'll make sure we catch you are home!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 08, 2016, 05:35:17 pm
Excellent....and what was the final verdict? Pacenti Rims, Novatec Hubs and Sapim Race Black spokes?

A Shimano dynohub I'm getting from Rose (*) plus 32H offset BORG22/Kinlin rims, black Sapim Force spokes and a Shimano XT M8000 rear hub for £250 + shipping if I don't collect in person.

(*) if anyone wants anything from Rose please shout so we can share the shipping costs.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 08, 2016, 07:55:51 pm
 :thumbsup: Excellent!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 12, 2016, 01:52:28 pm
Excellent....and what was the final verdict? Pacenti Rims, Novatec Hubs and Sapim Race Black spokes?

A Shimano dynohub I'm getting from Rose (*) plus 32H offset BORG22/Kinlin rims, black Sapim Force spokes and a Shimano XT M8000 rear hub for £250 + shipping if I don't collect in person.

(*) if anyone wants anything from Rose please shout so we can share the shipping costs.

To save on faffage Malcolm is supplying everything including dynohub and rotors so I won't be placing an order with Rose.  Malcolm is now in possession of a few hundred of my plastic pounds. 

He is looking forward to seeing some of you tomorrow and plans on buying extra cake, I said that was probably a good idea   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 12, 2016, 01:56:53 pm
He is looking forward to seeing some of you tomorrow and plans on buying extra cake, I said that was probably a good idea   :thumbsup:

Or not as 'rain forces play' in Ted's case :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 12, 2016, 02:36:22 pm
 :thumbsup:

I better not have breakfast if the weather looks bad, there might be cake to consume and more gear ratio discussions to have!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 12, 2016, 04:21:04 pm
So in my fixed gear information frenzy I end up on Sheldon Brown's website (after many previous visits) trying to understand a bit more about the whole gearing thing that Tom was explaining to me on Wednesday.

I manage to bump into this ARTICLE (http://sheldonbrown.com/deakins/how-to-fixed-conversion.html) and it turns out the author is not our Tomsk but it took a fair while to figure that out!

It's a US Tomsk Imposter! (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tom-deakins.html)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 15, 2016, 07:09:36 pm
Regarding the Up North Tour I have been wittering on about ...

It looks like the riders will be me, Tomsk, bobb and huggy.  But if you suddenly wanna come just let me know, nothing is set in stone yet although I have started to book accommodation.

And, if you're reading this and thinking "What the fook is going on?" get in touch with me and I will explain.  But be warned, we are contemplating a fully ladened tour to be conducted at a gentlemanly but reasonable clip going over some seriously lumpy bits.  Suffice to say I have started training already (*)!

(*) Go on then, let's be hearing your smartarsed remarks!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on February 15, 2016, 07:38:25 pm
It's a US Tomsk Imposter! (http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tom-deakins.html)

Most of the Deakins tribe appear to have emigrated en-masse from Radnorshire to the USA in the early C19th, across the Appalacians to Kentucky, Ohio and Tennessee [according to my Dad's research]...apart from my ancestors, who only made it as far as Brum. They were blacksmiths - who found work on the railways/railroads. Incidentally, my Grandfather used to do wrought iron designs for his half-brother, another relative was a designer at a Staffordshire pottery.

...Interesting convergent evolution of the two Tom D fixies.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 15, 2016, 08:05:05 pm
Perhaps riding fixed is genetic. I bet all you fixie weirdos are related!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 15, 2016, 09:57:11 pm
Regarding the Up North Tour I have been wittering on about ...

It looks like the riders will be me, Tomsk, bobb and huggy.  But if you suddenly wanna come just let me know, nothing is set in stone yet although I have started to book accommodation.

And, if you're reading this and thinking "What the fook is going on?" get in touch with me and I will explain.  But be warned, we are contemplating a fully ladened tour to be conducted at a gentlemanly but reasonable clip going over some seriously lumpy bits.  Suffice to say I have started training already (*)!

(*) Go on then, let's be hearing your smartarsed remarks!
do you mean TRAINing
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 15, 2016, 10:11:19 pm
I've done it, I have ordered a set of Durano Plus in 28C, yep that is right, wired bead and all!

I need to get back on the road with something I know won't puncture for while. I'll see how they go and consider moving them over to the Fixie when it arrives and trying out those lovely S-Ones I have on the Croix.

I think if I put the Schwalbes on now and I end up with another gash that won't seal I may have some form of episode!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 16, 2016, 12:31:58 pm
Ill be interested to see how they go Nik, I have always used the Durano+ Duo and I've never a visitation yet with them, but yearn for some 28mm love...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 16, 2016, 12:37:31 pm
... those lovely S-Ones ...

These S-Ones you refer to.  They're tubeless and made by Schwalbe?  And they are what Steve Abraham used?  And he didn't have much trouble with them?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 16, 2016, 12:47:46 pm

These S-Ones you refer to.  They're tubeless and made by Schwalbe?  And they are what Steve Abraham used?  And he didn't have much trouble with them?

I have just realised who you are when it comes to tyres - Mr Know it All from Harry Enfield and Chums - "Only me ! Oh, you don't want to do it like that, you want Marathon pluses on that bike"

Then later when it all goes to rats after the Marathon pluses have been duly fitted, "Now, I do not believe that you wanted to do that, did you".
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 16, 2016, 12:59:06 pm
 ;D

Once I have two wheelsets for Fred I can have the best all worlds. A tried and tested (by me) option when dependability is required. And then an experimental, lighter weight option.

Madness and method.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 16, 2016, 01:02:41 pm
Ill be interested to see how they go Nik, I have always used the Durano+ Duo and I've never a visitation yet with them, but yearn for some 28mm love...
Yep, will do. I agree with the reliability, I had the Durano's on the trek for a long while and the only visitation I had was a double puncture when I hit a pothole really really hard, as in new rim hard. I didn't see the 28's previously as I was looking at the folders but I don't need folding tyres, it makes no difference.

Having ridden lighter more supple tyres I do think the Durano Plus is a bit dead but hey, Saturday's puncture really Pissed me off and I want something I know is reliable for the Arrow. I might switch to the S-One for the Chapman though!

... those lovely S-Ones ...

These S-Ones you refer to.  They're tubeless and made by Schwalbe?  And they are what Steve Abraham used?  And he didn't have much trouble with them?
No, these are brand new. Steve was using the Schwalbe One. They have now extended the One range to several models

Pro One - Very light racing tyre
One - the original
S-One - 30c tyre kind of Paris Roubaix inspired with V guard
G-One - Gravel Tyre 35c or 38c with a bit more tread
X-One - Cross tyre from what I can gather
Big One - big tyre for 650B Wheels

Basically the V-Guard should offer protection from cuts more than the original from what I can gather. You can see the line up HERE (http://www.schwalbe.com/gb/road.html)



Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 16, 2016, 01:05:23 pm
And then an experimental, lighter weight option.

As a lightweight option have you not considered a pair of lightweight meilenstein's?? You could run Schwalbe Ultremo ZX's on those  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 16, 2016, 01:12:09 pm
All interesting stuff. Once the Contis I have on the shelf are wrecked (should take about a week) I might go for something wacky.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 16, 2016, 01:17:17 pm
All interesting stuff. Once the Contis I have on the shelf are wrecked (should take about a week) I might go for something wacky.

The only small stumbling block I can think of with the Lightweights is that they start at £3600 a pair and probably aren't that good for COR'ing on which would also go for the ZX's...... even our chum Lance had to pay £12k a season for his Lightweight wheels as they believe in their brand that much that they won't sponsor anybody  ::-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 16, 2016, 01:18:52 pm
All interesting stuff. Once the Contis I have on the shelf are wrecked (should take about a week) I might go for something wacky.

The only small stumbling block I can think of with the Lightweights is that they start at £3600 a pair and probably aren't that good for COR'ing on which would also go for the ZX's...... even our chum Lance had to pay £12k a season for his Lightweight wheels as they believe in their brand that much that they won't sponsor anybody  ::-)
I bet I could break them in a week!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 16, 2016, 01:20:06 pm
I bet I could break them in a week!

That's got to be your way in to bagging a free set then  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 16, 2016, 01:28:15 pm
probably have to stump up for the original set though  >:(
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 16, 2016, 01:29:06 pm
probably have to stump up for the original set though  >:(

Yep probably true  :demon:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 16, 2016, 03:50:29 pm
Ill be interested to see how they go Nik, I have always used the Durano+ Duo and I've never a visitation yet with them, but yearn for some 28mm love...
Yep, will do. I agree with the reliability, I had the Durano's on the trek for a long while and the only visitation I had was a double puncture when I hit a pothole really really hard, as in new rim hard. I didn't see the 28's previously as I was looking at the folders but I don't need folding tyres, it makes no difference.

Having ridden lighter more supple tyres I do think the Durano Plus is a bit dead but hey, Saturday's puncture really Pissed me off and I want something I know is reliable for the Arrow. I might switch to the S-One for the Chapman though!

Aha - yes I see now, there is a 28 in the none-folding version... I had 1 set of none folding and then since then I've used the folding 25's as they are lighter, but tempted by the 28 with reflective side walls!

Great tyres but with so many options its hard to get a consensus of opinion on a particular one and confusing at best!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 16, 2016, 04:49:35 pm
Agreed! I seem to have spent about a bikes worth of money on tyres in the last 12 months and my Mancave is starting to resemble a bike shop with all the tyres hanging up. I'll do some write ups at some point.

The good thing about the reflective strips is it always looks like you have been riding around Bradwell Power station in night time photos

(http://thebrunners.com/blogs/onthebike/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/20151107_201437.jpg) (http://thebrunners.com/blogs/onthebike/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/20151107_201437.jpg)


(http://thebrunners.com/blogs/onthebike/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/20151024_071449.jpg) (http://thebrunners.com/blogs/onthebike/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/20151024_071449.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 17, 2016, 01:34:24 pm
Due to a misunderstanding between my mobile phone and I I seem to have taken delivery of 2 sets of 28c Durano Pluses. Anyone interested in taking one set off my hands?

Will let them go to £40 the pair.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on February 17, 2016, 01:42:06 pm
Due to a misunderstanding between my mobile phone and I I seem to have taken delivery of 2 sets of 28c Durano Pluses. Anyone interested in taking one set off my hands?

Will let them go to £40 the pair.
Hmm, I could well be interested in relieving you of a pair of those, for the brighter months when my Marathon Tourers are able to come off.  Be interested to know what you think of the ride on them, I've had 25c's before and always found the 28c's like rocking horse poo to find when I looked for them.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 17, 2016, 03:18:44 pm
Oh dear  ::-)  Tales of what I got up to last night are filtering back to me and jogging my memory.

We were in this club and I was sat next to a rather attractive lady who is the Finance Director of a Lithuanian telecoms network, I think she was called Tatiana or similar.  Anyhow earlier in the evening I had shown another lady some photos of Penelope on my phone.  This lady was very impressed given she was from the Flemish bit of Belgium so basically Dutch.

Buoyed by the reaction of the Flemish lady I thought Tatiana might be equally impressed.  Unsurprisingly I was wrong.  She was very unimpressed by a pissed Englishman showing her photos of an orange bike.  So unimpressed was she that she got up quite abruptly and legged it.  Much to the amusement of my colleagues.

I've also discovered some texts which indicate I trapped myself in a toilet cubicle at one point  :thumbsup:

If you're not on Facebook you won't have seen the dancing girls ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2546_zpssvoyoxcl.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 17, 2016, 03:20:45 pm
Oh dear  ::-)  Tales of what I got up to last night are filtering back to me and jogging my memory.

We were in this club and I was sat next to a rather attractive lady who is the Finance Director of a Lithuanian telecoms network, I think she was called Tatiana or similar.  Anyhow earlier in the evening I had shown another lady some photos of Penelope on my phone.  This lady was very impressed given she was from the Flemish bit of Belgium so basically Dutch.

Buoyed by the reaction of the Flemish lady I thought Tatiana might be equally impressed.  Unsurprisingly I was wrong.  She was very unimpressed by a pissed Englishman showing her photos of an orange bike.  So unimpressed was she that she got up quite abruptly and legged it.  Much to the amusement of my colleagues.

I've also discovered some texts which indicate I trapped myself in a toilet cubicle at one point  :thumbsup:

If you're not on Facebook you won't have seen the dancing girls ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2546_zpssvoyoxcl.jpg)

Did you get Penelope out for them too  ???  :o  ::-)  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 17, 2016, 03:26:53 pm
They were a bit busy.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: JenM on February 17, 2016, 03:52:29 pm
I just hope that 'Penelope' isn't a euphemism for something else!!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 17, 2016, 03:59:41 pm
I just hope that 'Penelope' isn't a euphemism for something else!!

Perish the thought!  The lovely Penelope:

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/FullSizeRender_zps7lrnw5cu.jpg)

More detail HERE (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=17.7950)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 17, 2016, 10:24:00 pm
 :facepalm:

(http://www.thebrunners.com/yacf/IMG_1602.JPG)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 18, 2016, 08:38:54 am
That's a lot of rubber you perv!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 18, 2016, 09:31:51 am
Whilst you lot have been comparing fetishes, some of us have been making the effort to get out on a Wednesday evening.

Last night four of us made it to the Woolie; myself, Tomsk, the BFC and the Hustler.

It was the Hustler's birthday  so we pulled out all the stops to give him a great time.  That is, in between lecturing him about his RRTY attempt going off the rails and haranguing him about his diet.

Following an enlightening (geddit !) presentation by the BFC on the lighting array he uses on his commuter, talk ranged from the salted porridge diet and cauliflower pizza bases to being groped in India.  Unsurprisingly, No Name, the Witham Brewery staple, was anointed as the Quaffers' Choice.  At £2.90 a pint why would it not ?

Hopefully "normal" service will be resumed next week and the weather will have improved sufficiently to draw a few more out of hibernation.

Did I mention the small detail that only the intrepid Tomsk actually travelled there by bike  :P
 

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 18, 2016, 09:35:02 am
Whilst you lot have been comparing fetishes, some of us have been making the effort to get out on a Wednesday evening.

Did I mention the small detail that only the intrepid Tomsk actually travelled there by bike  :P

I wouldn't get on your high horse as attending by Land Rover is as bad as OD's obsession with getting the train home  :facepalm: I would expect no less of Tomsk he is cut from the same cloth as myself  O:-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 18, 2016, 09:38:33 am
... I would expect no less of Tomsk he is cut from the same cloth as myself  O:-)

You what!!!???!!!  Rarely have I heard such an outrageous claim  :o :o :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 18, 2016, 09:40:00 am
... I would expect no less of Tomsk he is cut from the same cloth as myself  O:-)

You what!!!???!!!  Rarely have I heard such an outrageous claim  :o :o :o

As in we are both legends in our own pants and tend to ride our bikes rather than taking public transport or motor vehicles to aid us  :P
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 18, 2016, 09:54:13 am
Oh by the way, next Wednesday I've booked myself in for another endurance spinning session.  My keenness for riding around in the cold, dark and sometimes wet weather remains low when there is a viable if unappealing alternative.

So that you lot don't completely give up on me I am pleased to report that work on the Up North Tour is going well  :thumbsup:  I should be pleased to furnish info to anyone interested. 
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 18, 2016, 09:58:38 am
... I would expect no less of Tomsk he is cut from the same cloth as myself  O:-)

You what!!!???!!!  Rarely have I heard such an outrageous claim  :o :o :o

As in we are both legends in our own pants and tend to ride our bikes rather than taking public transport or motor vehicles to aid us  :P

One evening, when it's neither cold nor wet, we must all have a chat about this.  The motion before the house should be something along the lines of ...

"What justification is there for Doggers Lane to describe himself as a legend?"

To help you make your case you can bring along witnesses, learned texts, photographs, PowerPoint slides, rabbit hutches, finger puppets, in fact anything you like because, to be frank, you'll need all the help you can get!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 18, 2016, 09:58:45 am
Oh by the way, next Wednesday I've booked myself in for another endurance spinning session.  My keenness for riding around in the cold, dark and sometimes wet weather remains low when there is a viable if unappealing alternative.
 

Just a thought but have you considered purchasing a turbo trainer and driving (or training it) to the selected pub for the evening and you can then complete your session whilst still socializing with your chums.....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 18, 2016, 10:02:29 am
That's a stupid idea  ::-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 18, 2016, 10:04:03 am
One evening, when it's neither cold nor wet, we must all have a chat about this.  The motion before the house should be something along the lines of ...

"What justification is there for Doggers Lane to describe himself as a legend?"

To help you make your case you can bring along witnesses, learned texts, photographs, PowerPoint slides, rabbit hutches, finger puppets, in fact anything you like because, to be frank, you'll need all the help you can get!

I wouldn't need all that palaver, I need merely take you back to last year and one of your lovely octopus routes ending up at The Cats of around 60 miles in total and if memory serves me correctly you all fooked off to The Cats without making the second ascent whilst I did complete the full route on me jack jones m'lord  :thumbsup:  O:-)
Oh and I can proudly say I have never got public transport back from a MEMWNS evening event  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 18, 2016, 10:04:56 am
That's a stupid idea  ::-)

 ??? we could all take the p*ss out of you then whilst you sweat your nackers off and we have some Essex energy drinks  ;)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 18, 2016, 10:20:26 am

Oh and I can proudly say I have never got public transport back from a MEMWNS evening event  ;D

Apart, that is, from the track evening a few short weeks ago.  Tomsk rode to and from Chelmsford station that evening and expressed disappointment that he hadn't just continued to the Velodrome.

So, let's weigh up some evidence:

Tomsk:

Respected nationally in AUK as a prodigious rider and organiser of events.

Regular podium placements in AUK annual lists for points, organisation, fixed wheel achievements etc

Rides to and from MEMWNS events often riding 80 plus miles when we end up in places like Mersea and Rowhedge

Does most of his mileage on fixed

Puts up with Tippers_Kiwi for days at a time

Quietly goes about his business without making a fuss about weather, distance etc

Multiple PBP ancien

One of the, if not the, most regular attendees at MEMWNS evenings


Doggers Lane

Rode an extra loop one night while we were in the Cats.



Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 18, 2016, 10:22:13 am
At last, all those years of legal training have been useful  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 18, 2016, 10:22:51 am

Oh and I can proudly say I have never got public transport back from a MEMWNS evening event  ;D

Apart, that is, from the track evening a few short weeks ago.  Tomsk rode to and from Chelmsford station that evening and expressed disappointment that he hadn't just continued to the Velodrome.

So, let's weigh up some evidence:

Tomsk:

Respected nationally in AUK as a prodigious rider and organiser of events.

Regular podium placements in AUK annual lists for points, organisation, fixed wheel achievements etc

Rides to and from MEMWNS events often riding 80 plus miles when we end up in places like Mersea and Rowhedge

Does most of his mileage on fixed

Puts up with Tippers_Kiwi for days at a time

Quietly goes about his business without making a fuss about weather, distance etc

Multiple PBP ancien

One of the, if not the, most regular attendees at MEMWNS evenings


Doggers Lane

Rode an extra loop one night while we were in the Cats.





Well strike me down if the Horse Whisperer hasn't just popped up as the other half of the tag team........

Does riding to the Velodrome not count then  ::-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on February 18, 2016, 10:24:39 am
At last, all those years of legal training have been useful  ;D

Years of legal training?????? You told me your had a dodgy history degree and then did a correspondence course in law.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 18, 2016, 10:25:30 am
At last, all those years of legal training have been useful  ;D

Years of legal training?????? You told me your had a dodgy history degree and then did a correspondence course in law.

We all know he's a fraud Carlos it's just OD that seems to have believed it.......  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 18, 2016, 10:27:33 am

Oh and I can proudly say I have never got public transport back from a MEMWNS evening event  ;D

Doggers Lane

Rode an extra loop one night while we were in the Cats.

You forgot to add 'doesn't know of this small ring that you all speak of for North Hill'
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 18, 2016, 10:32:22 am
Ah, the old deflect and deny strategy.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 18, 2016, 10:33:10 am
hate to say it DL....You've opened yourself up to a world of hurt on the 'Legend' claim!  ;D

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 18, 2016, 10:34:19 am

You forgot to add 'doesn't know of this small ring that you all speak of for North Hill'

Tomsk doesn't even have a cassette. I think he owns you on that as well.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 18, 2016, 10:36:49 am
Anyway....The Shark....I actually entered it yesterday. Who else is already entered and anyone got plans for getting to the start?

I'm kind of thinking the train would be the logical way to get there but I am not sure what parking is like around Cutty Sark Gardens.

3,200m of climbing, I am pretty sure that this ride will hurt more than the BCM!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 18, 2016, 10:36:52 am
hate to say it DL....You've opened yourself up to a world of hurt on the 'Legend' claim!  ;D

 ;D


You forgot to add 'doesn't know of this small ring that you all speak of for North Hill'

Tomsk doesn't even have a cassette. I think he owns you on that as well.

I know I think they went out in the 90's it's all about ipods and the like now  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 18, 2016, 10:38:29 am
Well if we are going to misunderstand technical terms then why is somebody who goes by the moniker "Doggers Lane" so pleased that he has a big ring ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 18, 2016, 10:40:47 am
Anyway....The Shark....I actually entered it yesterday. Who else is already entered and anyone got plans for getting to the start?

I'm kind of thinking the train would be the logical way to get there but I am not sure what parking is like around Cutty Sark Gardens.

3,200m of climbing, I am pretty sure that this ride will hurt more than the BCM!

I will enter today now that you have bullied me into doing something about it.

Bobb is committed but not sure if he has booked yet.

He said there was parking near the start but that it was fairly limited.  Mind you, I think his start was 6am for the GMT ride we are a bit later so it might be tight.

Anyway we have 6 weeks to get ourselves in shape for climbing the Downs  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 18, 2016, 10:41:30 am
Anyway....The Shark....I actually entered it yesterday. Who else is already entered and anyone got plans for getting to the start?

I'm kind of thinking the train would be the logical way to get there but I am not sure what parking is like around Cutty Sark Gardens.

3,200m of climbing, I am pretty sure that this ride will hurt more than the BCM!

Oh go on then.  I will check the various diaries here and enter if all the ducks line up.  The train might be a good idea.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 18, 2016, 10:42:45 am
Well if we are going to misunderstand technical terms then why is somebody who goes by the moniker "Doggers Lane" so pleased that he has a big ring ?

It's merely a user name for me I get sick and tired of reminding you lot that you are the ones obsessed with this particular Lane  ::-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on February 18, 2016, 10:44:07 am

I will enter today now that you have bullied me into doing something about it.

Bobb is committed but not sure if he has booked yet.

He said there was parking near the start but that it was fairly limited.  Mind you, I think his start was 6am for the GMT ride we are a bit later so it might be tight.

Anyway we have 6 weeks to get ourselves in shape for climbing the Downs  :facepalm:

Will you be doing this on fixed?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 18, 2016, 10:46:29 am
Anyway....The Shark....I actually entered it yesterday. Who else is already entered and anyone got plans for getting to the start?

I'm kind of thinking the train would be the logical way to get there but I am not sure what parking is like around Cutty Sark Gardens.

3,200m of climbing, I am pretty sure that this ride will hurt more than the BCM!

Oh go on then.  I will check the various diaries here and enter if all the ducks line up.  The train might be a good idea.
:thumbsup:

Just checking....you realise this is an Audax right?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 18, 2016, 10:46:56 am
I think it was the train bit that caught his eye.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 18, 2016, 11:07:24 am
Anyway....The Shark....I actually entered it yesterday. Who else is already entered and anyone got plans for getting to the start?

I'm kind of thinking the train would be the logical way to get there but I am not sure what parking is like around Cutty Sark Gardens.

3,200m of climbing, I am pretty sure that this ride will hurt more than the BCM!

Oh go on then.  I will check the various diaries here and enter if all the ducks line up.  The train might be a good idea.
:thumbsup:

Just checking....you realise this is an Audax right?

Yeah I know.  Or alternatively its a pleasant ride the the countryside.  I may or may not be that bothered about finishing within the time limit.  Once the weather starts to improve I shall be needing to ramp up the miles so this fits in well. 

Regarding logistics, I'll let you know, me and TCMR might stay over on the Friday night.

Oh and finally, if anyone ever needs secure bike storage near Liverpool St station let me know.  The folks I work for have a bike cage.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 18, 2016, 11:13:17 am
 :thumbsup: Did just think the hills would be good training for your tour anyway.

14h 08m time limit.....reckon you'll be fine anyway and you can get yourself a little AAA medal :thumbsup:

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on February 18, 2016, 07:15:29 pm
I sincerely hope that the reason for my enforced absence this week, on foot or two wheels, will not be repeated - you can blame TCMH's attention seeking. The puppy still needs to be introduced to mid walk refreshment stops!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 18, 2016, 07:30:22 pm
You going to do The Shark then hugster?

Why's it called The Shark by the way?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on February 18, 2016, 07:54:03 pm
You going to do The Shark then hugster?

Why's it called The Shark by the way?
i was replying to a ride report post for last night before all this recent posting nonsense  ::-)
Think I'm busy the weekend of the Shark, washing my hair or something like that...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 19, 2016, 09:23:18 pm
Anyway....The Shark....I actually entered it yesterday. Who else is already entered and anyone got plans for getting to the start?

I'm kind of thinking the train would be the logical way to get there but I am not sure what parking is like around Cutty Sark Gardens.

3,200m of climbing, I am pretty sure that this ride will hurt more than the BCM!

I've entered.... hopefully my climbing legs will turn up on the day too!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 19, 2016, 09:27:17 pm
Ah ffs trains replaced by buses on 9th....

" Buses replace trains between Shenfield and Chelmsford / Witham.

Some trains will call additionally at Billericay connecting with buses to / from Chelmsford / Witham.

"
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on February 19, 2016, 09:47:03 pm
When I did the Greenwich Mean Climb (the 300 version of the Shark) I drove to the start and parked on Cade Road (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Greenwich,+London+SE10/@51.4738447,-0.0037392,118m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x47d8a9cea79975f3:0x1470a7a162e4ca6c!6m1!1e1)

That was a 6am start and it was empty at 5.30am when I arrived. I would imagine it would still be empty a little later.

Could always do some sort of Travelodge thing the night before?

Right... off to enter the Shark...

Edit: Entered :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 20, 2016, 05:10:29 pm
Jiberjaber, where did you see the bit about the bus replacement service? Was it at the station? There website seems to say 09/04 is a normal day

HERE (http://www.abelliogreateranglia.co.uk/travel-information/service-alterations?month=04&year=2016)

I might well drive down early if it is the case though and find a cafe to get some breakfast.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 20, 2016, 05:13:19 pm
I did a quick train route check on my phone and there was a service alert for works at Romford

http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/service_disruptions/118150.aspx
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 20, 2016, 08:56:12 pm
 :thumbsup:

well, not really but good to know!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 22, 2016, 01:35:06 pm
Well done to everyone who braved their way around the Brazier yesterday  :thumbsup:  I think we were represented by Tomsk, Sister Carol, Tippers and Jiberjaber.  The latter two ECE'd it and in Tippers' case this meant the successful conclusion to RRTY x2.

It should of course be noted that the legend that is DL was probably doing an equally gruelling session on the rollers with a windmachine turned up at full power.

For me the ride ended earlier than expected.  I am beginning to think the problem may be my unlucky top.  The first time I wore it I fell in a pothole and now an early bath on the ECE to the Brazier.

I duly turned up at Tipper Towers at too early for a windy Sunday morning o'clock and we set off into the wind.  It was all going well until Tippers uttered the fateful words, "well, we've got an hour and a half that should be plenty of time to cover the 25k to arrivee".  No sooner had he said this than my rear tyre started to deflate.

I can only excuse myself by saying that I felt under pressure to get on with things and not make Tippers late for the start of the calendar event but somewhere along the line I managed to put the wheel on incorrectly :facepalm:

As soon as I got back on and turned the pedals the chain kinked and the derailleur bent.  Cue me searching out tools and chain links while Tippers got on with the actual repairing.  With a bent derailleur and a chain missing too many links, I had to make the decision to abandon and pedal home with the gears I had left.  I felt doubly bad that not only had Tippers patiently stayed on to help to the point where he was under serious time pressure, but also he was continuing on his own anyway and might as well have just abandoned me to my fate.  Thanks Tippers  :thumbsup:

Assuming the parts turn up on time, I am hoping to persuade the Hustler to join me in riding the Horses for Courses on Saturday to tie in with Tomsk's helpers ride.  After all, when you are definitely not doing RRTY like the Hustler and me it is important that you fit in a few fun rides that happen to be 200km long.

On the subject of tyres, as I explained in the pub last week, I have even less patience than Tippers when it comes to tyres.  I have some Durano plus tyres on order with the other parts and these will be replacing the Michelins that were on the bike on Saturday.  The Vittoria Open Paves that I have on the Flyer have been very good this winter but I know that when they get to a certain mileage they just give up.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 22, 2016, 02:22:05 pm
 :thumbsup:

It was a proper mechanical that! I still think the chain managed to squeeze itself through the derailleur cage in some fashion as it was definitely not running around that top jockey wheel after it screwed up.

I think you made the right choice not carrying on, had you shifted 1 stop to far you would probably have been looking at a new wheel (or several spokes at least) and not just the derailleur. And with the wind there were times on the flat where it was nearly required to use the full range available.

Obviously I don't need to point out that had you been on your fixie none of this would have happened :-D but I think the first leg of the Braziers is the first time that I have seen Tom actually looking like he is having to put some effort in (it was from a distance though so I might just have been seeing things)

Good move on the Durano's, I have to say they really aren't as bad as I had told myself they were from previous experience. It was pretty good going and being 95% certain that punctures were not going to be an issue made up for any potential loss of speed.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 22, 2016, 02:41:22 pm
You've done a great job in putting us all off tubeless which had been my original plan A.

Glad you got round yesterday despite my best efforts to derail the 24th month of your RRTY quest.

When I got back to Tiptree and had another look, the chain was only going over one of the jockey wheels.  No wonder it was clicking all the way back  :o  Definitely the right decision.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 22, 2016, 04:10:47 pm
I suffered from the missing 5% with my front D+ puncturing twice (first one 1km from the start of the main event  :facepalm: ) and a knackered spare inner tube which turned the first repair in to a good 30+ mins, the second visitation (same wheel) was a bit quicker at 20mins but I can see the attraction of tubeless in you don't have to spend ages worrying and trying to find the cause of the visitation etc....

I still haven't found the cause of the second visitation, but when I get round to cleaning the bike I will take a good look just in case its lurking in there ready to pounce once again!

These SON Plus wheels are almost like run flats, I hadn't noticed for a few moments or two it was flat - must have been tired!

On the plus side I received my carbon forks for the CdF today, they had been on order since September, could have built them myself in that time! LOL
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on February 22, 2016, 07:58:38 pm
...but I think the first leg of the Braziers is the first time that I have seen Tom actually looking like he is having to put some effort in (it was from a distance though so I might just have been seeing things)

I was seriously in danger of overcooking it trying to tow David J [Glendene], Orange Andy and the rest of a sizeable peloton back into the wind. When I stopped to take a phone-call [since Mrs Tomsk's 'episode' last October I always stop when it rings...this time it was just work-related  ::-) ] I was quite glad of the excuse to ease off and ride at my own pace back to the 'Ut. It was a tough day, though what it would have been like out in the Fens...I lost my route sheet to a gust, maybe my routesheet holder needs new Velcro, but I rose to Kieron's challenge of riding the second half without referring to the spare copy he gave me, though I did have tippers and his gps to confirm I was on the right track.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 22, 2016, 10:03:36 pm
So my new forks need fettling to install them, I was wondering if anyone has any of the following I can borrow:


I've got a couple of options, I could try and pry off the race with my disc pad tool or similar chisel type thing, carefully mask up the steerer to cut it, make a nut setter out of some dowel etc but the job is always easier with the right tools....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on February 22, 2016, 10:19:44 pm
Bash the old race out with a long screwdriver and a big hammer, cut the steerer tube with a hacksaw in a cheap mitre box, knock the bearing race on with a bit of vacuum cleaner tube. Jobs a good 'un.

But don't blame me if it all goes wrong😄
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 22, 2016, 10:23:50 pm
That's plan 'a' Sister Carlos... 

I'm presently investigating a new crown race by itself so I can swap back to the steel fork if required etc... I'm comparing races based on lower bearings with a view that if its a similar ID/OD on the bearing and the same chamfer then barring the bottom cup depth, the race should be the same.... 

Think I've a mitre box somewhere...  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 22, 2016, 10:45:02 pm
Moving off the technical thread for a minute...

The Hustler and I are hoping to ghost behind the Horsepower helpers'  ride on Saturday on a horses for courses.   Anyone else for a more amateur approach than Tomsk and his merry band of superstars ?

Please note that the fact we are contemplating an emergency 200 so late in the month is purely  coincidental as neither of us are considering RRTY.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 23, 2016, 06:14:36 am
jibers, whilst building Fred I was worried about cutting down his steerer tube, I'm not good at cutting accurately, if anyone ever needs a circumcision I wouldn't ask me. Anyhow, someone here suggested using an old stem as a saw guide, worked a treat. I have a stem you can borrow, I could send it to you via one of tomorrow's Witham riders.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 23, 2016, 08:43:14 am
Recently launched ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2559_zpsqs1pfgeb.jpg)

Beer flavoured crisps, what a ridiculous idea.  NB - Fairfields grow their potatoes and make their crisp on the farm near Wormingford.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on February 23, 2016, 08:48:54 am
A good tip OD. I don't think you need to be super accurate as regards squareness when you cut the steerer, just cosmetically acceptable. Assemble it first to ensure you mark the correct length though! If it's a carbon steerer don't use the old star fangled washer you'll need the expanding gripper type of fixing.

I can't believe I'm posting workshop tips, my bikes always have issues!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 23, 2016, 11:42:14 am
I suffered from the missing 5% with my front D+ puncturing twice (first one 1km from the start of the main event  :facepalm: ) and a knackered spare inner tube which turned the first repair in to a good 30+ mins, the second visitation (same wheel) was a bit quicker at 20mins but I can see the attraction of tubeless in you don't have to spend ages worrying and trying to find the cause of the visitation etc....
Unless it is just a massive gash and then you start dealing with the whole sealant ejaculation and the following clean up and putting a tube in amongst it....not that I am trying to put you off.....I will go back there myself at some point!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 23, 2016, 11:49:52 am
In the meantime we now have beer flavoured crisps. The world isn't a bad place you know.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 23, 2016, 11:51:24 am
 :thumbsup: Exactly! Slightly wrong but great all the same.

Can you drink beer and eat beer crisps? Does that count as Double Parking?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on February 23, 2016, 12:36:48 pm
How about Cheese and Onion beer?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on February 23, 2016, 12:40:58 pm
 I can't think about beer until I've forgotton about tippers struggling with a massive gash and a messy ejaculation!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 23, 2016, 12:56:52 pm
How about Cheese and Onion beer?

You're just being silly now aren't you?

I can't think about beer until I've forgotton about tippers struggling with a massive gash and a messy ejaculation!

Yes a good point.  I'd recommend eating several packets of beer crisps in the hope your mind is erased of unwelcome imagery. 
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on February 23, 2016, 01:29:15 pm
  • a lower crown race removal tool;
  • a steerer cutting jig, or;
  • a threadless nut setter.

I have a crown race removal tool you can borrow.

You don't need any sort of cutting jig, I always do it by eye. Use a spacer/stem etc, draw round it with pencil, then cut on the outside of the mark with a hacksaw. If you haven't cut it perfectly straight, use a file to tidy up (or do nothing - it really doesn't need to be perfectly square). I've done this with Aluminium and Carbon steerers.

I don't have a threadless nut setter unfortunately - never fitted a headset that needed one.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 23, 2016, 03:30:41 pm
I'll take you up on that offer Rob.  :thumbsup:

Ace - so steerer cutter and crown race removal sorted, I'll buy a nut setter (if only for the name sake) and jobs a good 'un! :)

Just need 2 inches of spacers now! LOL
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 23, 2016, 05:29:57 pm
OD's Essex Good Beer Guide (2013 edition) Pub Quest - Update

I have now ridden my bike to 61 of the 110 listed Essex GBG pubs.  Nine were visited in 2015.

Just thought you might like to know.  Cheers!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on February 23, 2016, 07:28:49 pm
Moving off the technical thread for a minute...

The Hustler and I are hoping to ghost behind the Horsepower helpers'  ride on Saturday on a horses for courses.   Anyone else for a more amateur approach than Tomsk and his merry band of superstars ?

Please note that the fact we are contemplating an emergency 200 so late in the month is purely  coincidental as neither of us are considering RRTY.

Raymond has decided to ride H4C this Saturday too...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 23, 2016, 08:27:51 pm
Excellent.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on February 23, 2016, 08:39:01 pm
Anyone else for a more amateur approach than Tomsk and his merry band of superstars ?

You *might* be able to pursuade me...

What time would kick off be?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 23, 2016, 08:49:32 pm
I guess at the same time as Tomsk and the Hotrods ie 7.30. You know you want to.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on February 24, 2016, 06:52:39 am
I'm setting off at 06:00 on Saturday, as I need to back in reasonable time to be out again in the evening. Brian will probably start with me [overnighting in Mobile Hotel], Wilkyboy will play it by ear as he's ece-ing. Raymond will either drive here or hook up with us in Sudbury for a later finish. It's all a bit fragmented...choose very, or not quite so silly o'clock start.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 24, 2016, 09:52:18 am
Tomsk

If you are able to bring some cards tonight then we can be flexible about start times  :thumbsup:

Bobb has still to be persuaded.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 24, 2016, 10:27:43 am
My participation in The Shark has been looking a bit dodgy over the last couple of days (unforeseen diary clashes) but I think I might just have rescued the situation - fingers crossed.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on February 24, 2016, 02:45:52 pm
Tomsk

If you are able to bring some cards tonight then we can be flexible about start times  :thumbsup:

Bobb has still to be persuaded.

Ok will do  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 24, 2016, 04:13:23 pm
I have a couple of used but unwanted Spigen iPhone 5s cases that are now surplus to requirements.  So if you or anyone you know wants them they're yours FOC.  I can't be arsed to put them on eBay.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on February 24, 2016, 04:18:45 pm
I have a couple of used but unwanted Spigen iPhone 5s cases that are now surplus to requirements.  So if you or anyone you know wants them they're yours FOC.  I can't be arsed to put them on eBay.
Will they make my 5c in to a 5s?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 24, 2016, 04:22:16 pm
I have a couple of used but unwanted Spigen iPhone 5s cases that are now surplus to requirements.  So if you or anyone you know wants them they're yours FOC.  I can't be arsed to put them on eBay.
Will they make my 5c in to a 5s?

Almost certainly.  Do you want them?  They are cluttering up my desk!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 25, 2016, 11:26:28 am
Just looking at Grant's post on the non-technical thread about disc brakes freezing, what is everyone's experience of them so far ?

For my part, having had disc brakes on my mountain bike (where they are faultless but with far less mileage obviously) and on my Genesis (no end of trouble), I am still unconvinced by the disc brake revolution.  The Hustler and Bobb squeaked round DTDO last month every time they touched their brakes.  The power of a decent set of rim brakes doesn't seem that different to me and easier to maintain and replace.

If I ever find the budget for another bike I would probably go traditional but there's always the nagging doubt that you are missing out on something better.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 25, 2016, 11:54:15 am
I'll do anything to avoid Rim brakes now. I hate the noise of my rim grinding away in the winter months and the 50/50 on when the braking power will come through on wet or generally shite days.

Saying that I think I am slightly spoiled with the Hydraulic (even if not full Hydro) HyRd's and not really having to make any adjustments. Will be interested to see how the spyres are in comparison bu I suspect that fact they are dual piston will make for a not bad experience.

The rear doesn't really make any noise, the front does when it is wet but to be honest even with the Swiss Stop pads on the trek rim brakes I used to get some noise (mainly on dry days)

The fact that it takes very little effort to brake all the way through the range and it is so easy to modulate sells it for me over rim brakes every time.

Disc Brakes YES....Tubeless Not so Much!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 26, 2016, 04:09:23 pm
Is this Ride with GPS Cycling Club (https://ridewithgps.com/help/club-account/) thingy of any use to us?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 26, 2016, 05:05:23 pm
I cant see how much it costs?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 26, 2016, 05:14:25 pm
I cant see how much it costs?

There are some videos which I haven't been able to watch yet as I'm in the office so need to look busy.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 26, 2016, 05:32:31 pm
I think they have always had a club version of the membership.... might be interesting option.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 26, 2016, 05:36:47 pm
Its $250 per year  :o

It is basically a shared premium account, so the estimated time bit works based on at least 1 club ride being ridden and uploaded exceeded 16km.

Cant see if the Garmin write works through.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 26, 2016, 05:43:11 pm
Well we won't be doing that then!!!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 28, 2016, 09:48:05 am
Bobb, the Hustler and I set off yesterday to ride the H4C Perm.

I lasted one kilometre before another major mechanical so I will have to leave it the other two to describe what looked like being a great day awheel.

The only good thing was it wasn't far back to the car. 

I felt doubly bad because I was the Hustler's lift home so chapeau to him for the unexpected extra mileage.

Fortunately, I had always said I wasn't doing RRTY.  There was a time yesterday when I thought about going out this morning and riding it just in case I changed my mind.  It was at that time that I remembered OD's wise words (in fact, in many ways, it was a bit like when the ghost of Obi Wan Kenobi advises a young Luke Skywalker  ::-)).  So, from now on I will be following the path to enlightenment that is OD's cycling strategy - still doing stuff like the Shark and the BCM for the challenge and still hoping for a fixed SR but otherwise concentrating on short sharp club rides and breakfast-based expeditions at the weekend and hopefully a bit of cycle camping to go with it.  The commitment of finding a 200k every month feels like a treadmill that I am happy to get off.  I now have even greater respect for those of you who have done RRTY however many times and those who are embarking on the quest for number one.

All in all the last couple of weeks has served as a bit of a reality check on where my limitations lie.  Hopefully the Shark and the BCM will not provide further evidence of those limitations  :facepalm:

I am now waiting for the rain to clear so I can get out with no gears for a trip to another seaside for a late breakfast (see when you aren't running to the audax clock you can wait for the weather  :thumbsup:).
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 28, 2016, 10:24:02 am
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on February 28, 2016, 10:25:44 am
I can't believe I now have OD as my cycling guru  :o

At least he has the experience that comes with great age.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 28, 2016, 10:26:21 am
 :smug:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 28, 2016, 12:20:18 pm
I don't need a pub any more ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2571_zpsgdq6jj70.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 28, 2016, 01:07:17 pm
Did it come with a frame mounted holder Steve? :)

Graeme I feel your pain of yesterday, I had 3 chain breaks in a row with one needing a new DI2 RD :( 

Mine was 11 speed, and I found it very sensitive to the position of the pin on the chain link, a fraction of a mm in or out and it didn't make the full contact and allowed one of the link plates to move free. 

The first break I have no idea what was the problem, something on the bike managed to jam in to the chain and that started the whole "chain reaction"  given that the quick link plate snapped in half I assumed that to be the culprit, but since the mess on with the pins, I am back on them with no major issues since, though I have found on 11spd its best to replace them ever 1000 miles (not had that prob with 10spd).

I have a large torque wrench and Shimano free hub socket if you want it torque setting to the 40Nm or what ever it should be.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 28, 2016, 05:16:43 pm
Jibers, it's a hip flask so it mounts on me not the bike!!!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on February 28, 2016, 05:56:32 pm
Jibers, it's a hip flask so it mounts on me not the bike!!!

I know that, but given the fascination with accessory for the Surly I was expecting a bike mount for it also :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on February 28, 2016, 06:24:46 pm
Wobbly John made a cage for one (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=67060.msg1391680#msg1391680)

You can also buy them to go under your Brooks: http://www.charliethebikemonger.com/ahearne-mud-flask-holster---seat-mounted-hip-flask-cage-3598-p.asp
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on February 28, 2016, 11:02:05 pm
I rode a Sportive today!  :o

Only a Fiver though so as far as I was concerned it was as good as an Audax just no need to follow a route sheet. I chose the 47 miles with a time limit of 2 hours 45 for the challenge, there was a no time limit option but I figured since I had dug the trek out form the back of the bike rack, lubed the chain, CHECKED THE GEAR SHIFTING (Ted) and pumped up my unreasonable supple and fast tyres I owed it to the bike to 'have a go'

Managed to get round in 2 hours 32 so I was well chuffed with that. Good tea and cake at the end too.

The guy organising it was the Colchester fellow that Tom and I rode with from Villaines on the way back to Paris back in August so had a good little PBP catch up as well.

You can read about the day on the BLOG (http://wp.me/s7hyox-ccrc2016), if you have any interest! No pics I'm affraid, I was in a bit of a hurry  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 29, 2016, 05:50:24 am
Good effort tippers, its good to do different stuff every now and then. I think Greg my spinning instructor rode the same event, he mentioned it last Wednesday.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on March 02, 2016, 09:15:14 am
Copy of event on the Witham Cycling Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/113030555403210/):

As a club we have secured a 2 hour Track Taster Session at the Lee Valley Velodrome on the evening of Wednesday 4th May between 18:00 and 20:00. If you would like to experience a taste of the track this is your opportunity. More details available at the link.
https://www.visitleevalley.org.uk/en/content/cms/london2012/velo-park/#track
The Velodrome charges have increased a little since our last visit in January; depending upon numbers cost of the evening will be between £27 and £35 for the 2 hour track session, this figure includes £12 for bike hire but shoe hire is an additional £7 if desired. I will initially close the book at 15 confirmed places and put additional interest on a wait list until I get more than 20 to make hiring a second instructor economical. A second instructor will allow a further 15 places and the closer we get to a total of 30 participants the more economical it becomes.
Before the event you will need to have valid CTC or BC 3rd party insurance by way of membership of one of those organisations and be a signed up member of Witham Cycling which can be completed on the day if necessary. As a club we are affiliated with CTC and members of Witham Cycling can take up discounted individual associate membership here https://www.ctc.org.uk/join-membership/setup/AFMI using our club number 90063203 which provides 12 months of 3rd party insurance.

You will be responsible for getting yourself to the VeloPark. I will probably be travelling by train to Stratford and walking from there. At least 30 minutes needs to be allowed for walking from Stratford train station to the Velodrome. You should plan to arrive soon after 17:00 to allow for checking in, changing and getting set up on a bike.

To secure your place please send your £25 per person deposit to me. An easy way of doing this is to use PayPal at this link:
https://www.paypal.me/GrantHuggins/25
I will also take traditional cash in person, please PM to let me know you are interested.

In January we had 27 people enjoy the same experience, many of whom I expect will want to repeat it. For a little taste of the evening you can see a video here: https://youtu.be/zL79IrmblTg
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 03, 2016, 07:34:14 am
A wet and wild Wednesday evening saw a reduced peloton head to the Odd One Out in Colchester.  OD, Huggy and the BFC were joined by newcomer Tokyo Sexpest in the main Spa group.  They arrived at the Oddie in good time where they met up with David Gandy fresh from an assignment for Rapha Urban.

Meanwhile I was stuck at the side of the road having had a visitation and then losing one of my locking nuts in the long grass  :facepalm:

When I eventually made it, the others had placed themselves round the roaring fire and were well into their sampling.  We had Mauldon's Silver Adder, Soham's Albert Ale and mighty oak's Saxon.  The latter, even at over 6%, proved to be extremely smooth and easily took the Quaffers' Choice. 

Tokyo Sexpest seemed to fit in well.  In fact, it felt like he had been around for ages.

With the portentous weather outside, the talk was of serious matters.  OD presented his latest master plan; a circus skills evening.  Details remain sketchy but so far it seems to involve assembling in a forest clearing to watch David Gandy ride a unicycle while a demented OD dances around playing the penny whistle.  Next week we will probably be adding a wicker man and a fire.

With neither of the legends present the night soon descended into the expected farce.  I had barely arrived when Huggy "King of the Faffers" started the long preparation for departure.  It turned out the last train was at 10.44 and that the whole Spa peloton was taking that cop out. 

I have to admit though that when I set off into the sleet storm after a quick final tincture with DG it did cross my mind that maybe living near a station wouldn't be too bad sometimes.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 03, 2016, 08:20:26 am
Nice write up as always ted, I'll just fill in a few gaps ...

The circus skills evening is a serious suggestion.  'Ole fandango has told me before about his juggling prowess and last night he added more detail.  Whilst at uni he and his mate were juggling buskers with fire and everything  :o  And before you ask "What's the worst that can happen?" let me answer with "Quite a lot!"  He and said mate set the curtains on fire in a Student Union when their act went a bit wrong.  And there's more!  Tokyo Sexwhale can do fire eating and Beer Fueled Commuter can ride a unicycle - see what I mean?  It has the makings of an epic evening!

Now before you get too excited I might let the side down with my lack of musical ability (no surprises - remember the Epiphany Do?).  I can play the penny whistle but only a bit.  I can just about get through "In an English Country Garden" and know some of "The Mull of Kintyre"  Anyhow, lets move on and talk about photography ...

ted's problems stem from his shit phone.  You'll no doubt of seen his customary group shot / selfie on FB.  Here's my version taken on a decent phone with ted trying to follow my lead ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2587_zpsnstysu5e.jpg)

Yesterday evening I was Keeper of the Hello Kitty Kitty so Beer Bitch by default.  I stupidly left my phone on the table unlocked.  Here's Tokyo Sexwhale being a narwhal ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2585_zpsjmaytpa6.jpg)

And trying to impersonate my photo face (keep trying, you've a way to go yet) ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2584_zps5qbokkcl.jpg)

Which is nearly as good as this classic taken a few years back (that's my head gear he's wearing) ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/utf-8BSU1HLTIwMTMwODE3LTAwMzY2LmpwZw_zps4154f265.jpg)

Despite being cold and wet yesterday evening was a good one, thanks chaps  :-*

(I'm now off to find out how much Rapha cycling jeans and fetching checked shirts are)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on March 03, 2016, 09:57:13 am
Memo to self: time to re-shave head and tidy up beard.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 03, 2016, 10:00:20 am
Memo to self: time to re-shave head and tidy up beard.

And that's all you took from last night's antics? 

I may have asked this already, you did leave the fire prodder thing behind didn't you?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 03, 2016, 10:03:08 am
He was walking a bit oddly when he left  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on March 03, 2016, 10:11:27 am
Memo to self: time to re-shave head and tidy up beard.

And that's all you took from last night's antics? 

Well, I do remember I promised to show you the usefulness of the FOaaS site.

http://www.foaas.com/field/Oaky/OD/Book%20Of%20MEMWNS%20Chapter%209%20Verse%2013

The full RESTful (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representational_state_transfer) API is documented here (http://www.foaas.com).

Quote
I may have asked this already, you did leave the fire prodder thing behind didn't you?

Yes, you have, and yes I did :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 03, 2016, 10:16:28 am
^^^ That's funny  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on March 03, 2016, 10:19:56 am
Tokyo Sexwhale can do fire eating

fire-breathing

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Now before you get too excited I might let the side down with my lack of musical ability (no surprises - remember the Epiphany Do?).  I can play the penny whistle but only a bit.  I can just about get through "In an English Country Garden" and know some of "The Mull of Kintyre"

Hmm... I can do Amazing Grace and Auld Lang Syne.  Perhaps we could form the worlds worst faux-Scottish pub folk duo?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 03, 2016, 10:31:56 am
Is fire breathing an actual thing?  It doesn't sound like a good idea.

Erm, in the cold, sober light of day and based on recent experience, I'm not sure the furthering of my musical career should be encouraged  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on March 07, 2016, 04:07:37 pm
Folks, not sure how many of you use energy gels/bars but a mate of mine who I played rugby with in Hong Kong has recently released a natural alternative to these in the UK. It's basically a solid lump of Guava Paste wrapped in a banana leaf known as a bocadillo.

Good source of carbs and loads of other vitamins and good stuff in the paste and apparently quite good to eat as well.

I've ordered  a box of 12 and I'd be happy to share them around. If it's decided they are a good thing I'll spread the word a bit elsewhere on the forum. I should have them on me by Saturday so let me know if you want to try one out.

https://www.luchodillitos.co.uk/
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 07, 2016, 04:11:21 pm
My Dog are you sure?  Such things normally make me fart like a carthorse!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 07, 2016, 04:24:48 pm
Keep them well away from Jiber then.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 07, 2016, 04:27:13 pm
I'll give them a go Nik, it will help motivate Ted to spin a bit faster (assuming he doesn't break yet another bike)!  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 07, 2016, 04:28:04 pm
Keep them well away from Jiber then.

Or more precisely jibers and naked flames!  The thought of his melted Gore shorts welded to his backside doesn't bear thinking about.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on March 07, 2016, 05:11:14 pm
Colombian go-faster concoctions, served in a dried leaf?!   Should I worry about failing anti-doping tests? (Especially now that I have a racing license ;))
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on March 07, 2016, 07:26:38 pm
It's all natural, what could possibly go wrong
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 08, 2016, 08:36:05 am
Folks, not sure how many of you use energy gels/bars but a mate of mine who I played rugby with in Hong Kong has recently released a natural alternative to these in the UK. It's basically a solid lump of Guava Paste wrapped in a banana leaf known as a bocadillo.

Good source of carbs and loads of other vitamins and good stuff in the paste and apparently quite good to eat as well.

I've ordered  a box of 12 and I'd be happy to share them around. If it's decided they are a good thing I'll spread the word a bit elsewhere on the forum. I should have them on me by Saturday so let me know if you want to try one out.

https://www.luchodillitos.co.uk/

All jokes aside, I'll have a nibble on one if you have a sample about your person when we next meet.  I'm always keen to try new ideas.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 08, 2016, 05:50:29 pm
Well this IS exciting  :thumbsup:  Isn't the interweb a wonderful thing?!?  You know the beetles on stalks in the pond near Great Leighs?  The ones I make you all cycle past on our way to and from The Compasses?  Even when Oaky wants to go the other, LONGER way?  Even when it's too dark to actually see them?

I've found out about them!!!  Clicky HERE! (http://www.chelmsford.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/files/public%20art%20PDF%201.pdf)

The artist, Nicola Burrell, seems to be very prolific on the public art front in Essex.  She's built a nine-foot tall grasshopper in Colchester's High Woods Country Park, installed some stars in Colchester Castle Park to commemorate the anniversary of Twinkle, Twinkle Little Star, plus did a concrete mill sculpture for Harlow canal and she has also sculpted giant steel flowers for a green area in Redbridge, near London.  When the Tour came to Essex in 2014 she did THIS (http://www.dunmowbroadcast.co.uk/news/essex_first_glimpse_of_tour_de_france_field_and_road_art_designs_1_3653158) at Gt Dunmow.  Tomsk do you know her?

I'm trying to track down some contact details for her as I'd love to know more about the beetles; like why are they there and who commissioned them?

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 08, 2016, 06:13:56 pm
Some more background on here:
http://www.gazette-news.co.uk/news/2229645.nicola_opts_to_follow_her_art/

Old copy of Public art strategy at CBC
http://www.chelmsford.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/files/Public_art_strategy_0.pdf

You might have found the above already.

Probably easiest to call Jamie Cole (details within)
http://www.chelmsford.gov.uk/sites/chelmsford.gov.uk/files/files/files/documents/files/Public%20art.pdf
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 08, 2016, 06:44:52 pm
Cool, thanks jibers!

I'm not sure if the beetles are part of an effective public arts strategy based on the fact that the only buggers that see them are us and a few horseriders and dog walkers  ;D

But, perhaps its just too clever for me.  Hopefully Tomsk will be along in a moment to explain it all.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 10, 2016, 07:45:17 am
Last night we headed off to Tiptree to visit Teenage_Kiwi's local.

Somehow myself, Jiberjaber and Tomsk, who had all ridden solo, managed to meet at the appointed hour.  Meanwhile, the Witham peloton, formed of Teenage_Kiwi, the Hustler, Tokyo Sex(pest) and the BFC had gone off piste to throw us off the scent.  Eventually we saw the glow in the sky that heralds the arrival of the BFC's pink floyd lighting rig.

The original intention had been to visit four local energy drink dispensaries.  However Tokyo had prepared a spreadsheet based on the drinking time we would lose to faffage.  That plan was soon therefore aborted in favour of a trip to Teenage_Kiwi's local hangout and what a hangout it was.  When you are a teenager like him, there is nothing you like more than a huge tv turned up to full volume with the latest hit parade smashes blaring out across a pub full of teenagers shouting at each other.  Our colonial friend is clearly something of a local celebrity with the other youths and seemed right at home.  Being that sort of place, we were soon offered "Jaffa Cakes".  This turned out not to be a legal high or something worse but an actual packet of Jaffa cakes.  They really do know him well in there. 

I took the opportunity of asking a few questions of the fixed brains trust.  Otherwise the conversation was mainly around the Horsepower and logistics for the Shark.

With one of the legends present(and no nearby station), everyone managed to ride home as well.  The roads are in a terrible state at the moment for night cycling but at least the temperature seems to be on the rise for spring.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 10, 2016, 08:39:05 am
Sounds like you had a good night. Meanwhile I was getting shit faced for free again. This must stop.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on March 10, 2016, 08:42:12 am
It was friendlier than I had expected in the Anchor but I wouldn't say it was somewhere I'd hurry back to and it made me realise why I have not been there for 12 years and why I drink at home when I fancy a beer.

It was indeed like being at a student party, just not very bright students! The TV being turned up to full volume was annoying at best. (see I am not a teenager)

The ride from Witham was a reasonably quick affair. Oaky was suggestion that my Zig Zag route looked to be inspired by OD, I pointed out a lot of the Zig Zagging was to avoid the COR which I figured would be best due to the conditions. Oaky was suitably punished for his comments with a flint through his tyre on the VERY muddy road up to Tolleshunt Knights.

I changed the last 500 metres of the route taking a little diversion and that happened to be where we missed GD, Tomsk and Jibbers....any talk of wholesale changes to my route is complete bollocks.

Anyway, Tiptree crossed off the list of places to visit...apart from my overdue Mancave warming which will happen at some stage when the weather is warmer.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on March 10, 2016, 09:36:42 am
A fun night, flinty puncture notwithstanding (I should have kept hold of the offending item, in case any local museums wanted it for their collection of neolithic arrow-heads).

Whilst the only ale on offer was GK IPA, to the pub's credit I found it a lot better-tasting than it usually is.  Free box of Jaffa cakes, too!

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 10, 2016, 11:28:24 am
the VERY muddy road up to Tolleshunt Knights.


I actually went down that lane and thought I must have the wrong route as it was so bad.   It wasn't like that the last time I went down it, which is understandable given it was in October.


Whilst the only ale on offer was GK IPA, to the pub's credit I found it a lot better-tasting than it usually is. 



You will have noted the lack of beer review in the original write up.  It wasn't a bad IPA though.

We need to up our game for next week.  Perhaps somewhere totally unsuitable like a gastro pub that doesn't really welcome passing trade - Compasses at Pattiswick springs to mind.  I think we went there this time last year.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 10, 2016, 11:31:33 am
I should be ok for next Wednesday.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 10, 2016, 11:32:20 am
I should be ok for next Wednesday.

Oh, ok,  a cocktail bar near a station then.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 10, 2016, 11:38:28 am
I should be ok for next Wednesday.

Oh, ok,  a cocktail bar near a station then.

Charlie Lockrams in Witham!  I can't think why I've never thought of it before!!!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 10, 2016, 12:11:43 pm
Mmmh, it looks right up your alley:

"Motivated by the fear of being average

 A new unique sophisticated drinks parlour set in the old residence of Sir Charlie Lockram.
 "Gentleman, Scholar & Scoundrel".


 An over 25's drinking establishment situated in a side alley known as Lockram Lane.
 This Individual, funky, Sleek and unpredictable bar promises to bring the social gathering of Witham back to Life.
 Keeping many of its original features the establishment has been designed with Passion, flair, Indifference and a blindfold!!!
 Charlie's Bar is the perfect hang out to Lounge, Dance and Escape Normality.

 Your host Chenise and her stunning team look forward to welcoming you at Sir Charlie's.
 Serving you with a wide selection of spirits, fine wines and beers including our very own exclusive Charlie's Tipple, also boasting some extraordinary delights to tickle your fancy.

 "There's nothing like a good stiff drink"
 Sir Charlie Lockram"
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 10, 2016, 02:52:40 pm
In the spirit of "what's the worst that can happen?" I think we should book their private room for a Wednesday evening. ted has found out that £99 for 10 people buys 1x bottle of house spirits, 10x shots and some jugs of mixers.

That's bloomin' good value! 

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on March 10, 2016, 04:44:02 pm
The Flitch of Bacon in Little Dunmow, we could pretend we did not even know it had been upgraded
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 10, 2016, 10:57:37 pm
'Spoons is open in Maldon now, as an idea.....?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 11, 2016, 06:22:01 am
I suppose when you're from 'Boro that counts as upmarket.

OD has set his sights a bit higher though.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 11, 2016, 07:38:44 am
Aspire!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 11, 2016, 07:47:27 am
Adfectatio et audacia
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 11, 2016, 08:54:13 am
Adfectatio et audacia

Sed quid temptare nocebit?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on March 11, 2016, 09:22:34 am
I shall be missing next week, as I will be 'doing an OD'.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 11, 2016, 09:24:29 am
I shall be missing next week, as I will be 'doing an OD'.

It must be dreadful to do a job that doesn't involve drinking for free.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 11, 2016, 09:59:18 am

Sed quid temptare nocebit?

Why indeed.

Quoting Ovid is a little highbrow for a Friday morning though.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 11, 2016, 10:45:05 am
That's me, highbrow  ;D

Back to highbrow drinking ...

Myself and The Current Mrs R will be doing some tonight big styleeee.  Tomorrow could be a bit rough.  I can't go into detail now as it's a surprise but if you're interested keep an eye in FB this evening.

 ;D

And ... hic

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 11, 2016, 12:43:14 pm
hic



Is that more Latin ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 11, 2016, 12:49:33 pm
You should know!  Actually, how do you know any Latin at all?  Didn't Caesar stop at Hadrian's Wall?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Si S on March 11, 2016, 02:22:47 pm
You should know!  Actually, how do you know any Latin at all?  Didn't Caesar stop at Hadrian's Wall?

<sticks nose in to thread>

IIRC Caesar only got as far as Essex, Trinovantes land, ICBW.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 11, 2016, 02:25:27 pm
OK, the Romans only got as far as Hadrian's Wall.

Which doesn't explain why ted, a Scotsman, knows Latin.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on March 11, 2016, 02:42:55 pm
It's because he is clever!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 11, 2016, 02:45:13 pm
It's because he is clever!

Blimey!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 11, 2016, 03:45:12 pm
It cause he had a special upbringing isn't it?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 11, 2016, 03:48:42 pm
It cause he had a special upbringing isn't it?

What?  You mean he was raised by wolves or something?  It doesn't explain why he speaks Latin does it?  Anyhow, where is he?  Oh hang on, it's Friday.  Golf.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 11, 2016, 03:50:04 pm
Lunch. The Antonine Wall goes through Glasgow.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 11, 2016, 03:51:57 pm
Lunch.

It ten to 4!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on March 11, 2016, 04:20:31 pm
Lunch.

It ten to 4!

Sounds like a fine time to be returning from lunch on a Friday to me.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on March 11, 2016, 04:23:22 pm
indeed, that is planned perfectly.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 11, 2016, 04:43:52 pm
Lunch is now finished.

Time for home.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Kirky on March 12, 2016, 01:01:10 pm
Fixed Gear Cycling - The most dangerous fad on earth?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=290djiNH2HE

JCB ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 12, 2016, 10:15:53 pm
He's a nutter that bloke!  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on March 12, 2016, 11:30:50 pm
That guy is a Twat....although can be quite funny.

This guy is a Nutter...and Swiss (WTF?)

Patrick Seabse (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3lj023WUpM)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 13, 2016, 09:02:34 am
Another strong turn out from the mid-Essex peloton for the Horsepower rides on Saturday.  Tokyo rode the time efficient 100 (there was a spreadsheet involved there somewhere).  Meanwhile Tippers, Jiber, Christophe, the Hustler, David Gandy, Huggy and I set off on the 200.

The Hustler and I opted to wait for Huggy at the start while he checked in with mission control and generally faffed.  His excuse was that he had been busy helping Tomsk.  When I checked in he was very busy guarding a pile of AUK stickers while Wilkyboy did the checking in  :o. The upshot was that we started about 10 minutes late but at least we had our navigator and pacesetter along.

As is ever the case, we soon picked up a couple of waifs and strays; fandango - usual navigation issues and Bobb - visitation.

There was still an impressive field out but perhaps with fewer amateurs (other than myself) than last year's PBP fuelled field.  Certainly the beard  count was high and the pace seemed to match.  It is always slightly depressing  to see a stream of riders coming back from Snetterton all having controlled and eaten when you are still 20 minutes away.  We saw the mid-Essex A peloton and had the usual cry of "I'm absolutely ruined" from Jiber as he sped off looking absolutely fine.  Despite the Hustler's misgivings, Tyrell's cafe proved to be excellent.

The Hustler and Bobb had ridden the route as a perm a couple of weeks ago.  This was part of their plan not to ride RRTY, despite having clocked up four months' worth of rides spanning the worst of the winter  :P. Their early season form was awesome, whatever they are up to.  They rode the rest of us off the road leaving us straggling behind as the elastic snapped on more than one occasion.  Being the nice chaps they are, they waited at controls and hedge stops, but they were just at a different level. With four weeks to the Shark, at least I now know how far off the pace I am.

Huggy had produced a detailed plan that involved a careful stopping strategy with lots of bouncing of controls and a 7pm finish.  Needless to say we stopped and ate everywhere even making two stops in Newmarket, Huggy proving unable to ride past the 'Spoons without pulling in for Apple crumble and custard  ;D. The 7pm finish was still achieved though.  Actually Bobb and the Hustler achieved it with Huggy and I trailing in at "7ish".

Arrivee was a welcome haven of soup, tea, sympathy and nuts, although Tippers and his band of locusts seemed to have polished off the pork scratchings.  Tomsk, who is taking his place as Audax royalty very seriously, was waiting to welcome us when we got back.  Instead of asking "so, have you come far" like the real royal family, he simply told us "speak to my man who will sort out your card".  His man turned out to be Wilkyboy who was still chained to the same desk as he had been in the morning.  I did notice that the stickers were now unguarded though.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 13, 2016, 09:39:27 am
 ;D Nicely written up.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 13, 2016, 11:56:53 am
Great write up Ted and thanks for the compliment, stage 3 was quite hard, mostly mentally but I finally managed to pace myself which helped a lot... that bit in to Newmarket was a grind though...  some of the best scenery of the whole ride as the sun made an appearance so I think I took the most photos of the ride in that segment, including the only snowy field in the region :)  :thumbsup:


Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 13, 2016, 11:58:28 am
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160313/dd1a7f4c24035e9110e965e97928981e.jpg)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160313/ff678cc8b209d1e938c696e64d788751.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 13, 2016, 01:27:27 pm
Jiber, not a bad effort on the pictures but you might permit me to make a couple of expert observations.

Firstly, they are all the right way up.  What is that all about ?

Secondly, they seem to be in focus.  It's a common mistake with amateur photographers like yourself.

You could profit from signing up to my self help course "The camera phone is a canvas for art".  It's only £99 for the first six parts as an introductory offer. Let me know.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 13, 2016, 02:00:50 pm
Picture the scene, we're in the workshop of Joseph Nieple who Google says invented the camera. Joe gives the world's first camera to ted to try. ted takes a photo and gives it to Joe to inspected.

"This is shit" says Joe "I'm wasting my time with this photography bollocks, let's stick with drawing and painting."
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 13, 2016, 02:01:21 pm
In keeping with the artistic theme, I usually keep these for private viewing by a delusional discerning audience....

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160313/4a90b0d3b02f79e712245faf75402e19.jpg)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160313/a1e7bda47133ab78b0e0f36d13f1941f.jpg)

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160313/165929aa1db2e99ae1e57fa6f0d582c2.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 13, 2016, 02:14:17 pm
You are probably ready for part 2 of the course where we cover upside down and sideways.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 13, 2016, 02:32:35 pm
jibers, don't give that man any money.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 13, 2016, 02:36:04 pm
I tend to rely on the technology too much and my cameras auto-rotate the picture, I feel this limits my artistic expression so if the course covers how to disable such supposedly well meaning facilities I might be a subscriber...  do you take monopoly money?

In other news, I am half tempted by the 100km Wilkiboy has on next week (though trying to save myself for Easter's exploits) .... might be the first venture out of the carbon this year...  anyone else out on the ride?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on March 15, 2016, 11:37:09 am
Is anyone else riding the Pork Pie or Spring Dash this weekend?

I've decided against ECE'ing it, I've done my 300 for now and it felt good enough to not feel the need to do it again. I intend to enjoy the ride this weekend and then drive home.

I have the big car so happy to put racks on the roof and take others along.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 15, 2016, 11:39:02 am
Jibers looked keen to do the Spring Dash.

I will be doing some sort of solo MEWBs type thing instead.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on March 15, 2016, 10:41:49 pm
I'm on kid duties this weekend, so may manage a ride to the playground and a go on the swings and roundabout. That's all.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 16, 2016, 09:19:19 am
I'm on kid duties this weekend, so may manage a ride to the playground and a go on the swings and roundabout. That's all.

Probably wise at your age.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on March 16, 2016, 02:45:22 pm
I'm on kid duties this weekend, so may manage a ride to the playground and a go on the swings and roundabout. That's all.

Probably wise at your age.

At my age wisdom is about all I can offer.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 16, 2016, 02:54:16 pm

At my age wisdom is about all I can offer.

That's not what various Facebook postings seem to suggest... :thumbsup:

We may meet on the roads this evening avoiding OD's recreation of an episode of Countryfile.  This time I will also be on a bike rather than shouting abuse from my car (it was enjoyable though).
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 16, 2016, 02:56:11 pm
I've been a fan of John Craven's for many a year - man and boy!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 16, 2016, 02:57:45 pm
I've been a fan of John Craven's for many a year - man and boy!

You must have been the only 25 year old watching Newsround.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 16, 2016, 03:26:07 pm
Heads up, in stock and £21.49 for 700x28 wired

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/schwalbe-durano-plus-road-tyre-smartguard/rp-prod128939

With 10% off with code PAT10 £19.34 :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 16, 2016, 04:14:02 pm
Heads up, in stock and £21.49 for 700x28 wired

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/schwalbe-durano-plus-road-tyre-smartguard/rp-prod128939

With 10% off with code PAT10 £19.34 :)

Why would I need those?  I've got a pair of Contis ready to go. I won't have any problems at all.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 16, 2016, 04:15:03 pm
I've been a fan of John Craven's for many a year - man and boy!

You must have been the only 25 year old watching Newsround.

Cheeky young scamp. I was watching Newsround in the 70s!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on March 16, 2016, 04:27:49 pm
I've been a fan of John Craven's for many a year - man and boy!

You must have been the only 25 year old watching Newsround.

Cheeky young scamp. I was watching Newsround in the 70s!

You weren't 25 in the 70s then?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 16, 2016, 04:44:29 pm
You're a cheeky young scamp as well!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 16, 2016, 05:10:08 pm
Heads up, in stock and £21.49 for 700x28 wired

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/schwalbe-durano-plus-road-tyre-smartguard/rp-prod128939

With 10% off with code PAT10 £19.34 :)

Why would I need those?  I've got a pair of Contis ready to go. I won't have any problems at all.
General broadcast for the benefit of them that were discussing the price and availability of the 700x28 while you were in the gym.....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 16, 2016, 05:11:36 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 17, 2016, 07:54:22 am
Last evening I set off on my lonesome from Spa Road roundabout having been given the Hello Kitty kitty by AndyC33 and Roxy.  Somehow I decided to turn left up Blue Mills Road and without realising went off route.  My Garmin finally worked out something was wrong and went crazy.  I couldn't remember where the route was supposed to go so decided to work my way round to the Prince of Wales and carry on from there.  The left turn off Maldon Road led me onto some excellent COR which I must go back to in daylight. 

Back on tarmac the Garmin soon indicated a right turn onto more COR but after a about half a mile I found myself in a farmyard with security lights popping on all over the place.  The Garmin was insistent we were in the right place but there was no obvious way out of the farmyard to I turned tail and pedaled off the way I had come.  By now it was 2040 hrs so I got the Garmin to route me straight to The Bell.

On arriving I found 'fandango's Giant rocket parked outside with jibers standing next to it rubbing his hip and coughing.  ted and Tomsk turned up later.  An evening of talking bollox, taking selfies and drinking beer commenced.  Very pleasant it was too.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on March 17, 2016, 08:04:44 am
 :thumbsup:

I was sat at home playing with Excel...... :(
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 17, 2016, 09:20:14 am
OD is now taking his navigational freestyling to new levels.  While he was exercising his right to roam like some sort of demented rambler, I was faithfully tracking back along his published route hoping to see the lights of the Witham peloton.  When I was nearly at Goldhanger I realised that something was up and made a beeline for the Bell.  Perhaps I should show OD how to use a sextant, celestial navigation couldn't be any more unreliable for him than GPS.

The Bell turned out to be a really good pub, albeit with a limited (but good) range of beers.  We sampled Skinners Betty Stogs and Wibblers IPA.  Both were excellent and the jury was split on the Quaffers' Choice Award.  The landlord and landlady seemed genuinely pleased to see 5 sweaty blokes in cycling gear turn up and the locals seemed friendly too.  I did note that no children are allowed in the bar after 9pm so we may have to sneak DL in if we return.  There are precious few pubs left like the Bell and we ought to make an effort to keep revisiting them.

Jiber and I spent part of the evening looking bemused as the older generation reminisced about Muffin the Mule, Pinky and Perky and Andy Pandy.  Apparently these were all programmes they watched when tv arrived on the scene although Jiber thought they were things that people get up to in car parks in Essex.

I set off home into the wind with Des O'Connor who was on his carbon bike.  He proved extremely hard to keep up with.  The fact that I was also on my carbon bike made this all the more worrying (although he is substantially quicker than I am).  What was most annoying is that I am quicker on fixed at the moment, is that even a thing ?  There is clearly something amiss with my legs or the bike (or both).
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Christophe on March 17, 2016, 12:12:52 pm
Browsing the bay last night and came across these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carradice-Post-Office-Panniers-red-Factory-Seconds-/182055456756?hash=item2a6359cff4:g:j8oAAOSwwpdW5~gI

One for OD and Penelope. All he needs now is a red polo shirt and grey school style short trousers for the full GPO experience!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 17, 2016, 12:17:02 pm
Browsing the bay last night and came across these

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Carradice-Post-Office-Panniers-red-Factory-Seconds-/182055456756?hash=item2a6359cff4:g:j8oAAOSwwpdW5~gI

One for OD and Penelope. All he needs now is a red polo shirt and grey school style short trousers for the full GPO experience!

They are very smart indeed and had I not got a spare pair of Ortliebs which fit Penelope perfectly I'd certainly be willing to part with 50 quid!  Thanks for the tip off though  :-*
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 17, 2016, 12:31:31 pm
Oooh, nice find Christophe  :thumbsup:

I think they might clash with the Elephant bike colour schemes but I will be looking to see if Carradice produce anything similar.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Christophe on March 17, 2016, 12:40:40 pm
Oooh, nice find Christophe  :thumbsup:

I think they might clash with the Elephant bike colour schemes but I will be looking to see if Carradice produce anything similar.

Sorry bit out of the loop. You mean to say there are at least  two of you on the loose riding around on Pashley Prontos?!?!? :o

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 17, 2016, 12:45:17 pm
Oooh, nice find Christophe  :thumbsup:

I think they might clash with the Elephant bike colour schemes but I will be looking to see if Carradice produce anything similar.

Sorry bit out of the loop. You mean to say there are at least  two of you on the loose riding around on Pashley Prontos?!?!? :o

Only I have a Pronto.  ted and rr OTP have Elephant Bikes, i.e. refurbed Pashley Mailstars.  Where have you been???  There seems to be so much you have missed  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 17, 2016, 12:48:33 pm
I bought two of them from the Elephant Bike people. 

They are in fairly girlie colours, which is alright because they are for my younger daughters to ride.

At some point in the not too distant future we will find a suitable venue for a Pashley Pronto ride out on a Wednesday night and I will find a volunteer (DL in fact) to ride the other one.

There is a bit of a fleet of them on Mersea as someone else managed to get hold of some of the Mailstars that didn't go to Elephant.  One other person has also been inspired into buying an Elephant Bike. 

Sometimes OD can be a force for good.

Did I really just type that  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 17, 2016, 12:49:35 pm

Only I have a Pronto.  ted and rr OTP have Elephant Bikes, i.e. refurbed Pashley Mailstars.  Where have you been???  There seems to be so much you have missed  :o

Is rr based in Chelmsford ? I saw a chap riding one in Springfield when I was cycling home a couple of weeks ago.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 17, 2016, 12:51:56 pm

Only I have a Pronto.  ted and rr OTP have Elephant Bikes, i.e. refurbed Pashley Mailstars.  Where have you been???  There seems to be so much you have missed  :o

Is rr based in Chelmsford ? I saw a chap riding one in Springfield when I was cycling home a couple of weeks ago.

Yes I believe so, he used to live in Witham, near to Oaky in fact.


Sometimes OD can be a force for good.

Did I really just type that  :facepalm:

 ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 17, 2016, 01:06:31 pm

Yes I believe so, he used to live in Witham, near to Oaky in fact.



I don't know anyone called Oaky.

If rr had lived near Tokyo Sex(pest) for instance then I could easily understand why he would have moved to Chelmsford though.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on March 17, 2016, 01:39:33 pm
 >:(
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 17, 2016, 01:43:46 pm
But you look so happy in your avatar.

I am sure it is great living near a cartoon narwhal type creature who enjoys nocturnal cycling outings.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 17, 2016, 01:48:18 pm
But you look so happy in your avatar.

I am sure it is great living near a cartoon narwhal type creature who enjoys nocturnal cycling outings.

Not to mention meeting men on the internet!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on March 17, 2016, 09:13:02 pm
Was briefly considering becoming Oaky O'Sexw(h)ale for one day only, complete with shamrock background
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 18, 2016, 06:04:15 am
I would have appreciated that given I'm an eighth Irish.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Christophe on March 19, 2016, 09:38:10 am
Just a quick heads up.( probably one for OD as he's a fan). The A12 cycle path currently closed between Kelvedon and Witham as its being relaid :o
Used it last night and had to circumnavigate several mini diggers and workmen. Drove past this morning and doesn't look passable in places.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on March 20, 2016, 04:08:38 pm
Bumping this up to your consciousness again, let me know if you want to have a few laps of the boards in May...

Copy of event on the Witham Cycling Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/113030555403210/):

As a club we have secured a 2 hour Track Taster Session at the Lee Valley Velodrome on the evening of Wednesday 4th May between 18:00 and 20:00. If you would like to experience a taste of the track this is your opportunity. More details available at the link.
https://www.visitleevalley.org.uk/en/content/cms/london2012/velo-park/#track
The Velodrome charges have increased a little since our last visit in January; depending upon numbers cost of the evening will be between £27 and £35 for the 2 hour track session, this figure includes £12 for bike hire but shoe hire is an additional £7 if desired. I will initially close the book at 15 confirmed places and put additional interest on a wait list until I get more than 20 to make hiring a second instructor economical. A second instructor will allow a further 15 places and the closer we get to a total of 30 participants the more economical it becomes.
Before the event you will need to have valid CTC or BC 3rd party insurance by way of membership of one of those organisations and be a signed up member of Witham Cycling which can be completed on the day if necessary. As a club we are affiliated with CTC and members of Witham Cycling can take up discounted individual associate membership here https://www.ctc.org.uk/join-membership/setup/AFMI using our club number 90063203 which provides 12 months of 3rd party insurance.

You will be responsible for getting yourself to the VeloPark. I will probably be travelling by train to Stratford and walking from there. At least 30 minutes needs to be allowed for walking from Stratford train station to the Velodrome. You should plan to arrive soon after 17:00 to allow for checking in, changing and getting set up on a bike.

To secure your place please send your £25 per person deposit to me. An easy way of doing this is to use PayPal at this link:
https://www.paypal.me/GrantHuggins/25
I will also take traditional cash in person, please PM to let me know you are interested.

In January we had 27 people enjoy the same experience, many of whom I expect will want to repeat it. For a little taste of the evening you can see a video here: https://youtu.be/zL79IrmblTg
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on March 22, 2016, 06:16:35 pm
Hello Velodromers,
I hope you're looking forward to the May visit to Lee Valley as much as me, and just in case you are could I ask you book your place by way of £25 deposit as soon as you like, if you have not already done so and if you have then thank you. I have just paid for the venue hire so I am somewhat out of pocket right now!
An easy way of doing this is to use PayPal at this link:
https://www.paypal.me/GrantHuggins/25
Also don't forget that I will need to book a second instructor quite soon if we get over 15 people going, preferably over 20 to make the shared cost economical. So early payment of deposit will allow me to gauge numbers with confidence.

Bumping this up to your consciousness again, let me know if you want to have a few laps of the boards in May...

Copy of event on the Witham Cycling Facebook page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/113030555403210/):

As a club we have secured a 2 hour Track Taster Session at the Lee Valley Velodrome on the evening of Wednesday 4th May between 18:00 and 20:00. If you would like to experience a taste of the track this is your opportunity. More details available at the link.
https://www.visitleevalley.org.uk/en/content/cms/london2012/velo-park/#track
The Velodrome charges have increased a little since our last visit in January; depending upon numbers cost of the evening will be between £27 and £35 for the 2 hour track session, this figure includes £12 for bike hire but shoe hire is an additional £7 if desired. I will initially close the book at 15 confirmed places and put additional interest on a wait list until I get more than 20 to make hiring a second instructor economical. A second instructor will allow a further 15 places and the closer we get to a total of 30 participants the more economical it becomes.
Before the event you will need to have valid CTC or BC 3rd party insurance by way of membership of one of those organisations and be a signed up member of Witham Cycling which can be completed on the day if necessary. As a club we are affiliated with CTC and members of Witham Cycling can take up discounted individual associate membership here https://www.ctc.org.uk/join-membership/setup/AFMI using our club number 90063203 which provides 12 months of 3rd party insurance.

You will be responsible for getting yourself to the VeloPark. I will probably be travelling by train to Stratford and walking from there. At least 30 minutes needs to be allowed for walking from Stratford train station to the Velodrome. You should plan to arrive soon after 17:00 to allow for checking in, changing and getting set up on a bike.

To secure your place please send your £25 per person deposit to me. An easy way of doing this is to use PayPal at this link:
https://www.paypal.me/GrantHuggins/25
I will also take traditional cash in person, please PM to let me know you are interested.

In January we had 27 people enjoy the same experience, many of whom I expect will want to repeat it. For a little taste of the evening you can see a video here: https://youtu.be/zL79IrmblTg
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 22, 2016, 09:26:57 pm
I have been elephant bike spotting. Two in two minutes today in Springfield.  Could one of them be the mysterious rr  ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 23, 2016, 06:32:15 am
Perhaps they're breeding in the parks of Chelmsford.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 23, 2016, 06:46:38 am
No, these were domesticated.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 23, 2016, 10:48:59 am
Perhaps they're breeding in the parks of Chelmsford.

(http://i.imgur.com/bfrukzf.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 23, 2016, 10:53:44 am
Don't tell Donald Trump's son!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 23, 2016, 02:01:07 pm
Moving back towards cycling...

I have just finally pulled the trigger on my new wheels for the Flyer.

Malcolm is building me 28h rear and 24h front on DT Swiss R460 rims and Zenith hubs.

To keep the (piss) artist formerly known as Tokyo and the other purists happy, the hub is double fixed.

I have been promised they will be ready in plenty of time for Green & Yellow fields which kind of commits me to riding them on that.

Now all I need is to sort out the bottom bracket shell on my Domane. It is going to Cycle Revolution for its Easter holidays to see if they can work out why I need my fourth bottom bracket since October 14 on my summer bike  >:(


Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on March 23, 2016, 02:51:30 pm
Blimey Ted, who fitted the last 3 bottom brackets so proficiently? Not your good self surely? Pressfit, it's a world of pain.

That doesn't seem like the required spoke count for audax either, oooer!


Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 23, 2016, 03:03:13 pm
You can be assured that I didn't fit any of them.  Given that Tippers, who produces a fair amount more wattage than I do, has only changed his once and only then because of my adventures on the Flatlands, it does look like the shell just isn't bang on.  Press fit BBs just don't have any flexibility in that regard. 

Malcolm assures me that a gentlemen of my slender build and riding fixed need not worry about having 36 front and rear like some of the more ahem muscular riders OTP.

I just couldn't bring myself to part with the additional readies for the "Pancetta" rims which would have made the wheelset cost pretty much the same as the bike.  You, Bobb and Tippers can be the Flash Harrys of the Mid-Essex scene.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 23, 2016, 03:10:07 pm
I shall be visiting Malcolm of Glemsford this Saturday to pick up Fred's new wheels so let me know if anyone wants something picking up - I'll be in a car.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 23, 2016, 03:36:17 pm
Just don't get chatting for too long, he has important wheels to build.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on March 23, 2016, 09:58:21 pm
Ask him if you can take a peek at my new bike, if you can get a photo it would be Ace!

On another topic, now that I am going into the world of Fixed gear I have been thinking about a little trip with it. While I was considering a long weekend following Tomsks new 400 Route I have had a little thought that I is slowly growing on me. A Twin Town tour to Waldbrol in Germany.....

I haven't looked into it too much yet (and I haven't mentioned it at home) but the very rough plan would be something like taking the boat from Harwich on Wednesday night and following the Rhine Cycle Route (http://www.rhinecycleroute.eu/) down to Cologne then over to Waldbrol, rough estimate is about 400km one way.

I would probably plan to get the boat back Sunday afternoon/night so would be on the train for at least a good portion of the trip back to the port.

I'd probably be aiming at Late summer but I really don't know yet.

Let me know if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 24, 2016, 05:55:34 am
I'll try to get a photo of your new bike.

If your adventure was at the weekend I might be up for it. But as it involves week days I can't do it as I'm running short of holiday. Sorry.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 24, 2016, 08:36:14 am
We Wednesday night riders are a biddable bunch in the main.  All it takes is an evil genius to appear in our midst for us to be led astray.

Thus it was that the Hustler, Hotblack Desiato and I assembled at Spa to find OD cackling and rubbing his hands astride Son of Oscar.  We should have known then that it would not be a quick jaunt to our spiritual home.

"I'll ride with Ted at the back" shouted OD as he sped off into the night in a luminous blur.  Clearly SoO  is considerably lighter than Fred and OD was enjoying the freedom.  Meanwhile, I was lost in Witham.

We reassembled at the bottom of Blue Mills for our first little hill of the evening.  OD had decided that routes were for other people and that the obvious way to ride to Littley Green from Witham was via Wickham Bishops, Langford and Maldon.  Along the way he managed to drag us up Market Hill and TMNH.  I soon realised that you either stayed ahead of Hotblack or stayed a good distance behind.  The glare from his lighting rig is such that you are too worried about your retinas to focus on the road ahead.  If you can stay just ahead it is like riding on a summer's day.

We eventually arrived at the Compasses after a moderately paced ride to find Tomsk and whoever Oaky is this week waiting for us.  We had been promised a night of two legends but the other legend was  a no show sadly.

No sooner had we arrived than Tomsk was readying himself for the ride home.  He had Easter Arrow business ahead and could see that OD would not be a force for good in that respect. 

The rest of the evening was spent sampling Cotleigh's Tawyny Owl, Red Fox Mild, Crouch Vale Essex Boys and Grafton's Can Can.  The Quaffer's Choice was hotly contested but edged by the Tawny Owl after an impassioned plea from the Hustler on its behalf.  Talk was of the scourge of modern communication devices and OD's responsible days as the local Ranger for Sustrans.

On the way home I developed a slow puncture in my rear tyre.  However such was the merciless pace that OD was setting that I didn't dare stop to fix it so I rattled the last few miles into Witham with just enough pressure to keep rolling.

Another fine evening and it felt genuinely mild on the road.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 24, 2016, 08:44:12 am
Ask him if you can take a peek at my new bike, if you can get a photo it would be Ace!

On another topic, now that I am going into the world of Fixed gear I have been thinking about a little trip with it. While I was considering a long weekend following Tomsks new 400 Route I have had a little thought that I is slowly growing on me. A Twin Town tour to Waldbrol in Germany.....

I haven't looked into it too much yet (and I haven't mentioned it at home) but the very rough plan would be something like taking the boat from Harwich on Wednesday night and following the Rhine Cycle Route (http://www.rhinecycleroute.eu/) down to Cologne then over to Waldbrol, rough estimate is about 400km one way.

I would probably plan to get the boat back Sunday afternoon/night so would be on the train for at least a good portion of the trip back to the port.

I'd probably be aiming at Late summer but I really don't know yet.

Let me know if anyone is interested.
I'm riding to Köln and back in September via Harwich, potentially route info from that ride....


http://fridaynightridetothecoast.blogspot.co.uk/p/the-three-countries-tour-viva-colonia.html?m=0
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 24, 2016, 08:50:06 am
Good write up ted.  Another cracking night  :thumbsup:  The focus on miles rather than beer was a nice change.

PS - I liked the way it took us an hour to get to the bottom of TMNH  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on March 24, 2016, 09:02:06 am
I'm riding to Köln and back in September via Harwich, potentially route info from that ride....


http://fridaynightridetothecoast.blogspot.co.uk/p/the-three-countries-tour-viva-colonia.html?m=0
:thumbsup: Thanks....great stuff.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on March 28, 2016, 01:06:39 am
BIKE STOLEN

https://stolen-bikes.co.uk/stolen-bikes/felt-z70/

pictures/details here: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=90158.msg2009062#msg2009062

My beloved Felt was nicked today from outside the Compasses.

It was locked to two other bikes (mrs_o, Me and acorn#1) but when we came out from lunch, the middle bike was gone but the others were still there (no sign of the cable lock anywhere nearby, though)

I ended up riding home at a HR Zone 4+ on my foldy-fixie (which they didn't nick) while Acorn #1 watched her bike like a Hawk until I arrived back there in the car.

Theft has been reported via 101.  Crime reference number obtained.  I now need to talk to our home insurance providers. 

As it happens, ast the time I took it out, the home insurance was mainly selected on the basis of their purported policy aroud bikes at home, and especially away from home.  (it's the RAC, at least as brokers, no idea who the underlying insurer is).

...sooo... to be continued ....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 28, 2016, 09:19:09 am
Sorry to hear that Mark. Must have been very opportunist.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 28, 2016, 09:21:18 am
Bad news matey, I hope you get it back.  The Compasses seems to be a bike theft hotspot, I imagine the local scrotes know lots of people ride their bikes there. I'll be taking my big lock the next time I visit.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on March 29, 2016, 08:28:40 am
That's very bad news, Oaky. We take more precautions in the badlands of Essex and don't expect this at the lovely Compasses. I hope for a good outcome.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on March 29, 2016, 05:57:22 pm
Gutting Oaky, I still remember how angry I was when someone pinched mine from the station. Hope it all comes good and the insurance let's you get something shinny and new
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: rr on March 29, 2016, 07:36:37 pm

Only I have a Pronto.  ted and rr OTP have Elephant Bikes, i.e. refurbed Pashley Mailstars.  Where have you been???  There seems to be so much you have missed  :o

Is rr based in Chelmsford ? I saw a chap riding one in Springfield when I was cycling home a couple of weeks ago.
I commute through Springfield so it could well have been me, but I did recently see someone else riding one the same colour in Springfield, so it might not have been. He was on the cycle path though and I use the road.
I strava nearly all my rides so you could check.
And I have to add that I ordered my elephant before OD got his pronto.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on March 30, 2016, 12:06:16 pm
rr, I saw both of you on my way home a couple of weeks ago.  Both with the same colour bike, we also have one in that colour.

I was the chap struggling along on a red Flyer.  I waved at both of you :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on March 31, 2016, 03:59:04 pm
So what happened last night then?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on March 31, 2016, 11:07:43 pm
Might be useful for any future forward planning we don't do...

http://micropubassociation.co.uk/
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 01, 2016, 09:16:50 am
Might be useful for any future forward planning we don't do...

http://micropubassociation.co.uk/

Good spot!  Have you been to the one in Chelmsford?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 01, 2016, 09:20:34 am
Yep - its good, compact and limited opening hours (unlike the ones in Boro), not a lot of bike parking available (I've used the rear before but its the entrance to flats, so the noise disturbs them)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on April 01, 2016, 07:59:47 pm
Just to draw attention to: Lars Ericsson Memorial afternoon [organised by Audax Club Hackney] - 14:00 Sunday 17th April at the 'The Shooting Star' 125-129 Middlesex Street, London E1 7JF [opposite Liverpool Street Station]. I'll be going.

Thread in the Audax Area...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 02, 2016, 02:37:34 pm
Just to draw attention to: Lars Ericsson Memorial afternoon [organised by Audax Club Hackney] - 14:00 Sunday 17th April at the 'The Shooting Star' 125-129 Middlesex Street, London E1 7JF [opposite Liverpool Street Station]. I'll be going.

Thread in the Audax Area...
I'll be trying my best to make it, will depend on family stuff!

Also, I am not going to make 'The Shark' next week now, we are having our boiler done and the plumber will be coming to hang new radiators on Saturday, dang, I am gonna miss all that climbing! To be honest I am kind of glad, still trying to sort out the issue with my knee and not sure that kind of effort would have done it much good.

And lastly, I've taken the plunge got myself a pass at home and booked my mini tour for Mid June. The plan changed significantly from my first idea as getting back would have been a Faff from Cologne or further on.

My plan now is to get the Wednesday night (15th June) sailing from Harwich to Hook of Holland then ride down to Cadzand on Thursday (ca. 110km + 2 Ferry trips). Friday will be a ride into Belgium through Bruge and onto Ypres (about 80km) where I will spend what ever is left of Friday and all day Saturday looking around some of the war memorials and searching out Demarcation stones. I might also try an ascent of the Kemmelberg if time allows. Sunday another approx 80km where I have booked the 4pm sailing from Dunkirk to Dover from where I will take trains to get back to Essex.

That's all been planned in a week off work with very little research so I'm looking forward to see how it turns out. Looking at the profile of the route it will be a good way to get to know my Fixie better  ;D

Happy to share plans if anyone is interested in joining in. I'm not fully sure of exactly what pace I will be going or how often and where I will be stopping but it certainly will not be Audacious!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 03, 2016, 01:45:46 pm
Kemmelberg isn't as bad as it sounds, but might be very different if it's wet!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 04, 2016, 05:22:31 pm
Sorry to hear you're out of The Shark tippers. Remind me who else is riding?  Tomsk, bobb?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on April 04, 2016, 07:11:25 pm
I'm still on for the Shark, been practicing too: I did Wilkyboy's Cambridge Chilterns Pathfinder 200 last week. Not quite as lumpy as we'll get on the Downs & the Weald on Saturday though  :-\
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 04, 2016, 07:40:05 pm
I'm being tempted to go to my sister's 40th..... Trying to resist...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 04, 2016, 09:13:25 pm
Sorry to hear you're out of The Shark tippers. Remind me who else is riding?  Tomsk, bobb?

Yes, I'm in  :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 05, 2016, 07:59:15 am
Sorry to hear you're out of The Shark tippers. Remind me who else is riding?  Tomsk, bobb?

Yes, I'm in  :)

Me too.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 10:43:57 am
My participation is looking doubtful unless I can sort out my Trek.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 05, 2016, 11:11:41 am
My participation is looking doubtful unless I can sort out my Trek.

I thought you'd fixed it?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 11:29:28 am
Bottom bracket still to be resolved...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 05, 2016, 11:41:00 am
Good luck, hasn't tippers got the tools to remove/install it? Or Malcolm in Glemsford? Assuming you've a new bb to fit and there's not some other issue?

I hope you make it.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 05, 2016, 11:51:40 am
Bottom bracket still to be resolved...

Ride fixed.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 05, 2016, 11:52:48 am
I hope ted makes it too, he was going to give me a lift home! 
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 05, 2016, 12:45:14 pm
I hope ted makes it too, he was going to give me a lift home! 

How are you getting there then? Riding?!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 05, 2016, 12:51:41 pm
I hope ted makes it too, he was going to give me a lift home! 

How are you getting there then? Riding?!

Staying inna a posh hotel the night before.

PS - riding into London early doors on Thursday and locking my bike in the office bike cage on Thursday night.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 05, 2016, 01:09:17 pm
Good luck, hasn't tippers got the tools to remove/install it? Or Malcolm in Glemsford? Assuming you've a new bb to fit and there's not some other issue?

I hope you make it.
I do, I have the 'punch' to remove the old bearings and I have the Hope bearing press which fits just right!

I also have 2 BB bearings that are about 0.5mm oversize to fit a shell that has been slightly worn apparently. Thomas' usually have a stock of the BB otherwise (or they did on the one occasion that I needed it anyway)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 05, 2016, 01:10:48 pm
I hope ted makes it too, he was going to give me a lift home! 

How are you getting there then? Riding?!

Staying inna a posh hotel the night before.

PS - riding into London early doors on Thursday and locking my bike in the office bike cage on Thursday night.

That's no way to treat a girl, poor Penelope.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 03:25:50 pm
Right, I have spoken (again) to Thomas Cycle Revolution.  They didn't sell me the bike but they are my local trek dealer.

Apparently the rate I am chewing through bottom brackets on my bike (this will be the 3rd since last February) is my fault. 

Every time you have ridden a Trek Domane or Trek Madone with a BB90 in the rain you should remove the cranks from the bike and remove any water or other crud from the shell, the spindle and the exterior of the bearings and then rebuild it.  I was told the system is not remotely weatherproof. It must therefore only be designed for short rides in the dry.  The Trek Domane is sold as an endurance bike.

I am assured that if it is raining when I leave Chepstow then no damage will happen to the bearings by the time I have returned.  How the bearings will remain greased and functioning while awash with water during this period is presumably the work of Trek fairies.

Research on the internet would suggest that this is all bollocks but I need the bike back so I will fit the v2 bb and see what happens.  I doubt it will be ready in time for Saturday though.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 05, 2016, 03:49:01 pm
How about doing The Shark on your Galaxy?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 03:58:20 pm
I could bring along an anchor as well.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 05, 2016, 04:08:39 pm
Seriously - do it on fixed - walk a few steep bits :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 05, 2016, 04:13:16 pm
Right, I have spoken (again) to Thomas Cycle Revolution.  They didn't sell me the bike but they are my local trek dealer.

Apparently the rate I am chewing through bottom brackets on my bike (this will be the 3rd since last February) is my fault. 

Every time you have ridden a Trek Domane or Trek Madone with a BB90 in the rain you should remove the cranks from the bike and remove any water or other crud from the shell, the spindle and the exterior of the bearings and then rebuild it.  I was told the system is not remotely weatherproof. It must therefore only be designed for short rides in the dry.  The Trek Domane is sold as an endurance bike.

I am assured that if it is raining when I leave Chepstow then no damage will happen to the bearings by the time I have returned.  How the bearings will remain greased and functioning while awash with water during this period is presumably the work of Trek fairies.

Research on the internet would suggest that this is all bollocks but I need the bike back so I will fit the v2 bb and see what happens.  I doubt it will be ready in time for Saturday though.
How, that is an awesome answer. Did they also suggest that a normal pleb cyclist such as ourselves would not be capable of doing such things and that it should always taken to them so they can charge £20 an hour labour and then keep the bike for a whole weekend at a time to do this......you can pick it up, ride it home and take it straight back.

To be honest, it's this kind of stuff that drives me away from Thomas' for most things, they are good at getting Trek specific parts but other than the experience of buying the new bike (which I must say they made very enjoyable) I've had quite a few experiences that have made me wonder why I bother.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 04:16:10 pm
I get the feeling they are working from a Trek script or approved responses at least.

The same answer was given to me at Activ in Folkestone where I bought the bike. 

It doesn't even make sense.

When (rather than if) the v2 bearings give up the ghost it will have to be direct to Trek.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 05, 2016, 04:59:20 pm
I could bring along an anchor as well.

Ponce. I rode PBP on my Surly LHT which weighs about 500 kilos. And you're worried about a poxy 200 on your Galaxy? Pffft...  :P
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 05:08:36 pm
I bet you and OD won't be out on your Surly LHTs on Saturday though  :o

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 05, 2016, 05:09:38 pm
I would be if I had no other option!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 05:17:33 pm
I have the option of a long lie and a nice MEWBS style ride  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 05, 2016, 05:33:51 pm
I have the option of a long lie and a nice MEWBS style ride  :thumbsup:

And condemning me to the vagaries of the rail replacement service!  Git.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 05:34:41 pm
Let's see what I can do.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 05, 2016, 05:35:25 pm
And I would happily take Fred and his new lightweight wheels if I didn't have to leave him in the bike cage for 24 hours.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 05, 2016, 05:38:23 pm
I could bring along an anchor as well.

Ponce. I rode PBP on my Surly LHT which weighs about 500 kilos. And you're worried about a poxy 200 on your Galaxy? Pffft...  :P

Exactly, steel is real and fixed is where it's at until there's a proper ride and the carbon bike is broken, then it's stay at home and have a lie in. What a poseur.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 05:40:35 pm
Thanks for that Titanium and bacon wheels man.

How are you getting to Greenwich on Saturday ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 05, 2016, 05:45:02 pm
I was hoping you could give me a lift in your mini person carrier. Looks like I'll have to drive myself now.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 05:47:27 pm
It's all becoming clear now:

"Oh Ted please come, we'll miss you if you're not on the ride"

meaning

"Oh Ted, how are we travelling if you and Tippers aren't going to be there ?"
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 05, 2016, 05:50:58 pm
Exactly, you two only think about yourselves, you're all rapha underwear and new radiators.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 05, 2016, 06:00:49 pm
Looks like that BB90 is a issue on all of the Trek Madone and Domaine bikes from a quick search of t'internet.

I've got BB86 on the Rose and from looking at the BB references, it's similar but with some internal cups, so if the bearing seizes its the cups that take the wear not the frame itself.

http://problemsolversbike.com/files/tech/Bottom_Bracket_Standards_Reference.pdf

The BB90 appears to be a direct interference fit to the carbon frame, so if it seizes or gets notchy (i.e. the bearings start to drag) its likely to rotate in the frame and start to wear the carbon, the V2 looks to be a slightly oversized bearing to get a better interference fit once the originals have worn the frame a bit.... not a good engineering design!

If you do stick the V2 in as an interim to get you going, my Rose came lathered in thick grease (like old treacle car grease if you know what I mean) on the outer surfaces of the BB bearings which might give you some protection from ingress of muck etc...

You can get bearings with different shields which might slow down the ingress and deterioration but it wont cure the problem and will still be a consumable part.
http://www.astbearings.com/bearing-closures.html


You might be better thinking about a replacement BB solution to remove the issue all together Ted?  Where's BFC when you need him???

Some guys have been through 3 warranty claims on frames apparently according some reports...

http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40004&t=12672607&p=15861080&hilit=madone+bb90+bearing#p15861080
http://www.ukclimbing.com/forums/t.php?t=587645
http://www.braveheartfund.co.uk/Community/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=12204
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 05, 2016, 06:01:13 pm
Exactly, you two only think about yourselves, you're all rapha underwear and new radiators.

You missed the baggy pub shorts.....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: BFC on April 05, 2016, 06:39:22 pm
If any damage by water ingress has occurred on standard bearings it would be better to try to source something better. The BB90 bearings are variants of standard 6805 - these have a 25mm inner diameter and require the shimano plastic bush to pad out the 24mm crank axle. Upgrade options include stainless steel versions which don't rot at the first hint of moisture, or Phil Wood replacements which are much better quality than any standard or SS parts. Ceramic bearings don't make sense for BBs (or any other bike bits) - they are recommended for high speed low load applications.

Damage to bearings often occurs during fitting or removal - the bearing should only be pressed in with force on the outer bearing shell, never on its center. Removal often can only be achieved with force/impact on the center, if this is the case the removed bearings are scrap even if there were OK before the removal. The bike shop that fitted the bearings last time may have damaged them during installation.

Loctite engineering adhesives cover a range of options for bonding into a damaged shell - range includes screwlock (weakest) through nutlock to stud and bearing fix (strongest) with gap filling options for bigger gaps. The strongest version is permanent and difficult to service, it is aimed at industrial and automotive applications, only way to break the bond is heating.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 05, 2016, 06:46:45 pm
Blimey!  Clever isn't he!  I'm impressed!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 05, 2016, 06:57:09 pm
Just a thought, how come tippers hasn't had BB problems with his Trek?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: BFC on April 05, 2016, 07:50:32 pm
Anyone looking for replacement bearings for bikes - look beyond the bike shops/websites. There are lots of industrial bearing suppliers that deal direct with the public.

For the BB bearings 37mm OD, 25mm ID, 7mm width the base part number is 6805 or 61805. A suffix of RS or 2RS for rubber seals gets a standard off the peg bearing with options from recognized manufacturers. A prefix of W specifies stainless steel, usually intended for food industry. The 25mm inner will require the shimano plastic bush from a scrap shimano BB or equivalent to reduce the inner to 24mm for standard axle.
Type W68052RS into a search engine, or go to a bearing company website - simplybearings.co.uk come in at £8.07 plus VAT each plus p&p.
On simply bearing website they also sell enduro cycle bearings, including 37.1mm oversized units.

Then all you need is a 37mm bearing press adaptor to avoid killing the bearing when fitting, or trust a bike shop to do it properly?

All of my bikes are traditional threaded BBs with BSA threadings- I have decided not to buy bikes because they are fitted with press fit or Italian threaded BBs when looking at the detailed spec.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on April 05, 2016, 08:04:20 pm
Hope might do something suitable? The BB86 replacement for Bernardette [the Genesis Day One Fixie] has been fine - a million times better than the original creaky Shimano press fit. The Hope unit is screwed together internally.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 05, 2016, 08:44:42 pm
There's a bearing shop in Maldon iirc from when I used to buy helicopter bearings
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 08:51:24 pm
As far as I understand it, the BB90 is only found on the Domane and Madone.

You can get a converter for BB30s from Praxis which looks good and there are various options for BB30s and BB86s but I am not sure that anyone has thought it worthwhile to do something for such a relatively limited market as the BB90.

I will apply plenty of waterproof grease and keep taking the cranks off until such time as they inevitably fail and then I will look to make a claim against the lifetime frame warranty...

Incidentally, the BB90 is £34 a pop which makes it even harder to swallow.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 05, 2016, 08:55:13 pm
£34 for 2bearings???
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 05, 2016, 09:16:54 pm
Such a pity they've got this design fault. They were made this way for ease of assembly in the factory I presume. As the BFC suggests you may be able to glue the cups into the frame or fit oversize cups as tippers suggests. Either way this would probably invalidate the frame warranty.

Just so inconvenient faffing around with it until Trek replace the frame. Inconvenient for your mates that is, the ones being let down this weekend. ;D

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 09:20:55 pm
The next set are the oversized ones.  They are trek's v2 which rather suggests that v1 was rubbish.  T'internet suggests that v2 is no better but I will wait and see.

I am sure a punch, a headset press and a spare BB could be hidden somewhere around Huggy's luggage for the BCM.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: rr on April 05, 2016, 09:35:43 pm
FWIW the BB86 on my Rose has survived 4 years 8k and emersion in muddy water as well as being ridden off road by a fat git
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 10:32:19 pm
According to Thomas's Cycle Revolution that is impossible.   One of  you must be wrong.
 I wonder who....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 05, 2016, 10:37:32 pm
Different type of BB Ted, as per my post earlier, one better engineered than the other....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 05, 2016, 11:18:13 pm
No, according to them "that's just what modern bottom brackets are like, they need to be looked after when it rains"

At least I won't have to save up for an Emonda now.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 06, 2016, 12:05:18 am
This BB stuff is utter nonsense. A bike that can't be ridden in the rain?  It's a scandal. To think we get an emergency Panorama programme just because it transpires a Panamanian law firm is helping rich folks stay rich. The really big scandal is being overlooked.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 06, 2016, 09:35:47 am
Just a thought, how come tippers hasn't had BB problems with his Trek?
Don't Jinx it!

I replaced mine a while before PBP but more so because I wanted to, it would likely have been fine but I was replacing things and did not want to leave that out.

I hear lots of people have issues with Press Fit but I seem to be OK so far on both the Trek and the Croix De Fer (Which has the Hope PF86 like Tom's which seems to be brilliantly engineered in all fairness)

I think you are VERY limited with what you can do with the trek BB90 and from my searching it was difficult to find bearings anywhere that would fit, hence I ended up going for the trek one from the shop. The Headset is the same, I used the Cane Creek fit tool thing and the top bearing was fine but the lower one was wrong and I could not source the right size anywhere but from the shop for the lower one in the end.

Ted, if the bike is not already in the shop I actually have the V2 bearing at home (I bought them by accident from JE James) you could have them if you want them.

It Seem BB90 is Ted's equivalent of my Tubeless!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 06, 2016, 10:31:57 am
I have just been to Thomas's Cycle Revolution to collect the bike and pay £32.99 for a new BB90 for my Trek Domane 4.3.

It hasn't been fitted for an extra £25 so I will need to borrow a headset press or similar from someone.

I have also been given detailed advice on how to look after a press fit bottom bracket because mine wasn't being looked after properly.

If you use the bike in the rain then you just "pop the cranks off and wipe any water or mud out of shell and off the surface of the bottom bracket".  This should also be done every "few weeks" even if you haven't been out in the rain.

People that have survived without doing this like Tippers and rr are "lucky".

The fact that the bearings will have got wet while the water is in there is not a problem. As long as you wipe the outside of the bb, they should last much longer.



Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 06, 2016, 10:36:09 am
Bonkers. 
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 06, 2016, 10:38:02 am
If you pick up the tools to fit it from tippers, he can probably sell you a nice set of tubeless tyres, hardly worn, to fit at the same time.  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 06, 2016, 10:44:58 am
If you pick up the tools to fit it from tippers, he can probably sell you a nice set of tubeless tyres, hardly worn, to fit at the same time.  ;D

 ;D

Funny you should mention that, I am probably going to go tubeless when my new wheels are ready for the fixed machine.

What could possibly go wrong ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 06, 2016, 10:57:10 am
I hear that the TrekBontrager tubeless tyres are really good although you do have to stop and wipe them down every time you ride through a puddle.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 06, 2016, 11:03:29 am
In fairness I often have to wipe myself down after riding through water  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 06, 2016, 11:08:48 am
The other day I reported to ted that the pothole that laid him low a few weekends ago has been fixed.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 06, 2016, 11:19:17 am
If it's any consolation, the Campag UT bearings on my Tripster have started to creak already. Just 2,365.8 miles since new. I'll probably make it to 3,000 before it gets unbearbable.

Of course, I've been abusing it - bikes fitted with Campag UT should only ever be ridden on sunny days in Tuscany  :P
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 06, 2016, 11:24:03 am
You should put something on Twitter to Trek.....I'll leave it up to the more eloquent to do though.  I would be seriously interested to see what trek say about a bike that they designed to be ridden over Pave not being able to handle a bit of Grit or rain without what I would consider to be intensive cleaning after it.

Surely a bike that requires that amount of care is not suitable for mass public sales and I would have thought that giving a lifetime frame warranty they would be looking to make them to last.

Considering the amount of Domane's and other BB90 bikes out there I still think it is more of a case of you were unlucky than I have been lucky.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 06, 2016, 11:27:24 am
Damage to bearings often occurs during fitting or removal - the bearing should only be pressed in with force on the outer bearing shell, never on its center. Removal often can only be achieved with force/impact on the center, if this is the case the removed bearings are scrap even if there were OK before the removal. The bike shop that fitted the bearings last time may have damaged them during installation.
Know that pulling the Crank set out requires some 'tapping' to get it to release I suspect that this is not particularly good for the bearings either and doing it 'every few weeks' or after every wet ride, or I suspect it should also be done after washing it would shorten the life of the bearings as well.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 06, 2016, 11:34:18 am
Damage to bearings often occurs during fitting or removal - the bearing should only be pressed in with force on the outer bearing shell, never on its center. Removal often can only be achieved with force/impact on the center, if this is the case the removed bearings are scrap even if there were OK before the removal. The bike shop that fitted the bearings last time may have damaged them during installation.
Know that pulling the Crank set out requires some 'tapping' to get it to release I suspect that this is not particularly good for the bearings either and doing it 'every few weeks' or after every wet ride, or I suspect it should also be done after washing it would shorten the life of the bearings as well.

But what do we know ?  We are not people who work in Trek dealerships.  They know what they are talking about and would not have any reason to be protective of their brand or avoid warranty problems on behalf of Trek, would they ?

Maybe my Trek Domane is a sensitive soul like me.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 06, 2016, 11:43:17 am
If you told the average person buying a Domane/Madone/Emonda that if the bike is out in the rain or just every few weeks in any case you should remove the cranks and essentially give the BB a small service how many people do you reckon would still buy one? I know I wouldn't have.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Ashaman42 on April 06, 2016, 11:50:33 am
I've been half considering a Domane or a Madone but after reading all this I think I'll look elsewhere.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 06, 2016, 11:51:11 am
Yes, it's absolutely ridiculous. I suspect the Trek dealers don't impart that information when you buy a bike and I bet it's not in the owners manual/information either. It's a design fault for which Trek are liable, product not fit for reasonable use.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 06, 2016, 11:56:06 am
If it's any consolation, the Campag UT bearings on my Tripster have started to creak already. Just 2,365.8 miles since new. I'll probably make it to 3,000 before it gets unbearbable.

Of course, I've been abusing it - bikes fitted with Campag UT should only ever be ridden on sunny days in Tuscany  :P

And then only to the local coffee shop.

The Shimano bb I fitted to my Tripster only lasted 3000km. I replaced it with a Hope bb which is much better engineered and has replacable bearings.

Not sure if Hope make Campagnolo fit bbs., I suspect you'll fit a Chris King or something similar anyway.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 06, 2016, 12:01:21 pm

Not sure if Hope make Campagnolo fit bbs., I suspect you'll fit a Chris King or something similar anyway.

Hadn't thought of that. Will have a look!

The annoying thing is, the first ever UT chainset I had (when they first came out) the bb bearings lasted about 10,000 miles! Since then, I've had two sets lasting only 3000 each (on the Dolan) and now the same on the Tripster. I should maybe have the BB shell faced to see if that helps, but as I understand it, most places refuse to do it on Ti frames due to it wrecking their tools/shitting themselves about fucking it up....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 06, 2016, 12:21:35 pm
They don't make 'em like they used to. I had a Shimano Octalink bb that lasted 25 years in my steel frame, it only failed when the frame threads corroded away.

The threads and facing on the Tripster were the best I've seen, I'm pretty sure the bb was square, by sight anyway.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 06, 2016, 12:30:11 pm
You should put something on Twitter to Trek.....I'll leave it up to the more eloquent to do though.  I would be seriously interested to see what trek say about a bike that they designed to be ridden over Pave not being able to handle a bit of Grit or rain without what I would consider to be intensive cleaning after it.

Surely a bike that requires that amount of care is not suitable for mass public sales and I would have thought that giving a lifetime frame warranty they would be looking to make them to last.

Considering the amount of Domane's and other BB90 bikes out there I still think it is more of a case of you were unlucky than I have been lucky.

Given it's Paris - Roubaix this weekend, might be a good time to hammer the hash tag #ParisRoubaix

Also worth talking to Nathan at Yellow Jersey Cycles, he does their workshop and bike fits and certainly tells it as it is, so might be worth a call for a second opinion or even just to prove the Trek dealership response hypothesis  :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 06, 2016, 12:50:45 pm
If I can find the money for a new bike I might go down the BB30 route and fit the Praxis converter which seems to solve the whole press fit problem anyway.

The Hope/Chris King option is an interesting one and I would definitely look to see if there was a compatible fitting before buying a different bike.

It is always worth pointing out that I am only reporting on my experience with the Trek Domane.  Other people seem to have had different experiences and the worst of it is that it really is a great bike to ride for long distances.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 06, 2016, 01:09:54 pm
In other happier news:

Tweet from Black Sheep:
"Have you claimed your #FreePint yet @CAMRA_Official? Free pint of #EmberInnsPaleAle in the April What's Brewing! https://t.co/l9DaSedeeH "

White Horse, Great Baddow is my local, not sure about the rest of Essex... looks like the other 2 are in Benfleet & Rayleigh

Suspect it's Black Sheep Bitter in disguise (which I have no problem with ;) )  I've asked them how to claim the free pint....

Apparently in the CAMRA mag:

"CAMRA members: Have you claimed your free pint yet? In the April edition of What's Brewing, there's a free pint of Ember Inns Pale Ale, brewed by Black Sheep! "
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 06, 2016, 01:12:53 pm
Not 100% I will be out tonight, it will depend on work etc. but If I do come out do you want me to bring the Punch and the Headset press Ted?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 06, 2016, 01:14:42 pm
Thanks Tippers.

The old bearings are out so all I should need is the press.

If you're not out I can always pop round on the way home.  You would be fine with me knocking your door at 12.30am wouldn't you ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 06, 2016, 01:58:48 pm
No problem....however, you might need to figure out how to remove the press from your skull  ;D

Since I have never been to the Three Elms I will try to make an effort tonight, I might not be at Spa but I should be able to make it to the pub.


Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 06, 2016, 02:46:41 pm
I am also caught up in the world of work but aiming to get there eventually.

No 1 son has just informed me that he did not remove his bike from my roof rack which was on his car after our trip to Scotland.  He has subsequently driven bike and roof rack into something solid and low so I may not have a roof rack either even if I do make it on Saturday.

This is the week that keeps on giving.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 06, 2016, 03:05:50 pm
 ;D Kids!

If the bars are OK but the actual bike carrier bit is not you can borrow one (or more) of the carriers from me if you need them. Although I would take all this as a sign!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 06, 2016, 03:21:15 pm
I have another bike rack and another set of bars but his car uses partly the same roof rack feet as mine.  I haven't yet surveyed the damage.

Apparently he was "too busy" to remove said bike during the 4 days we have been home.  It is a long job pressing the three buttons on the points of attachment on a Thule rack and lifting the bike off  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 07, 2016, 03:30:57 pm
At a recent gathering I mentioned a particular picture of OD that I'd constructed a while back, but couldn't find it to show the assembled folks...

Here it is :-

(http://www.oakden.org/mark/bike/yacf/pics/dan.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 07, 2016, 03:33:55 pm
I can't remember what the context was. By context I mean I can't remember what the subject about which the piss was being taken.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 07, 2016, 03:54:48 pm
I can't remember what the context was. By context I mean I can't remember what the subject about which the piss was being taken.

Me neither -- both the original context when it was made and the context in which it came up recently are a complete blank.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 07, 2016, 03:58:12 pm
Found the original --- blame RichForrest :)

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=26475.msg478120#msg478120
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 07, 2016, 05:49:08 pm
Good to see we were talking bollocks back in 2009.  We've established a rich tradition!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 07, 2016, 05:57:58 pm
Found the original --- blame RichForrest :)

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=26475.msg478120#msg478120

In the thread you linked to we mentioned going out the following day.  I've been trying to remember what we were planning to do.   I think it might be the wet Saturday we went NCN signing.   It rained heavily and Dave Haylock asked Wally at The Cats for a spin drier. Those were the days when Wally didn't have a sense of humour.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 07, 2016, 05:59:27 pm
I think that was indeed the outing in question.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 10, 2016, 07:16:03 pm
The Shark ...

Oh My Goodness!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Andy C33 on April 10, 2016, 08:05:23 pm
Tough?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 10, 2016, 08:31:17 pm
Tough?

Mentally as much as physically.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 10, 2016, 10:37:14 pm
Much respect to those who tamed the Shark yesterday.  It ended up being not too bad a day and I was quite jealous.   

My new cautious approach of actually riding my bike before trying a 200 after any major works proved to be the right choice. 

I had a 25k spin yesterday morning. This morning I had a 100 metre spin before deciding that I hadn't been imagining that my bike just wasn't giving enough reward for effort and it couldn't just be the Duranos as i had swapped them out. I went home to have another look instead of joining the club ride. After a bit of investigating I found the problem - a split in the carbon on my drive side chainstay.  Not sure how long it's been there but it's basically broken now. Bit worrying that it was in a dealer workshop last week and they didn't notice anything amiss.

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Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 11, 2016, 12:23:53 am
 :o Bugger!  New bike time then? Frame claim?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 11, 2016, 09:37:36 am
Bugger indeed.

Yes, it will certainly mean a new frame.  Hopefully with some assistance from the manufacturer...

Incidentally, I spoke to your Yellow Jersey people in Billericay with a technical query about the new bottom bracket.  That seems like a proper bike shop and they were extremely helpful despite my lack of custom - to date.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 11, 2016, 09:45:17 am
You were degreasing the chainstays every time rain washed any chain skog onto them as per the Trek service recommendations1, right?



1.  I may have made these up.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 11, 2016, 01:30:38 pm
....a split in the carbon on my drive side chainstay.

That bike is cursed!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 11, 2016, 01:34:40 pm
That bike is now with Cycles UK in Chelmsford.

When I explained about the bottom bracket advice from the other dealer the mechanic laughed and said it was utter tosh.

He was incredulous that they had not spotted something wrong with the chain stay - it is utterly shot and he thinks it probably happened over a period of time rather than on Saturday morning on a 25k test ride.

He then took the cranks off and didn't recognise the bearings I had been sold which, in fairness, looked nothing like the Bontrager bearings he had in stock for BB90.

Anyway, it's out of my hands for now...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 11, 2016, 01:56:13 pm
You should sue!  Do you know a decent lawyer?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 11, 2016, 02:13:40 pm
Good idea, I'll have a think and see if I can come up with a name.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 11, 2016, 02:40:35 pm
Good idea, I'll have a think and see if I can come up with a name.

I always think legal firms whose name references fishing are a good bet.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 11, 2016, 03:07:45 pm
Indeed, they do tend to use all the angles to land the best results so that your net losses are abated.  I will have a little dab and see what I can find.

Anyway, I have heard from a nice man at Trek UK in response to my tweets last week and I have provided the proof of purchase etc for the warranty claim via Cycles UK so watch this space.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 12, 2016, 06:01:27 am
Apart from Tomsk who has already declared an interest is anyone else planning on going to Lars' memorial bash on Sunday afternoon / evening?  If the weekend goes to plan I hope to be there.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 12, 2016, 09:57:14 am
Apart from Tomsk who has already declared an interest is anyone else planning on going to Lars' memorial bash on Sunday afternoon / evening?  If the weekend goes to plan I hope to be there.

I'm planning to go.

It looks like there are direct trains to LST on Sunday, two per hour IIRC.

I'm going to be away Saturday night, returning sometime Sunday a.m. so should be back in plenty of time to make it there, possibly even in time for Hummers' 13:00 arrival...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 12, 2016, 09:58:55 am
 :thumbsup:

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 12, 2016, 12:37:15 pm
Mid - East Saxons, I know ferries and stuff have been talked about before, but does anyone have the low down on the ferries from East Mersea to Brightlingsea and the Harwich Harbour Foot & Bicycle Ferry? Are there any more on the Essex coast? I'd quite like to extend my bike on ferries count and it's rather criminal of me not to have used any of the Essex ones (apart from Tilbury to Gravesend)....

I feel a weekend camping trip coming on. Possibly up to Forest Camping in Rendlesham Forest (http://www.forestcamping.co.uk/)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 12, 2016, 12:47:37 pm
Would it be too much like advanced planning to talk about forming an Essex B team for next year's Easter Arrow  :o

Good Friday is the 14th April which means it won't clash with school holidays or my annual week away so I want to take advantage.  I think it might clash with Huggy's birthday but what better way to spend your 49th than on the train home from York ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 12, 2016, 12:49:47 pm
Would it be too much like advanced planning to talk about forming an Essex B team for next year's Easter Arrow  :o

No it wouldn't. I want in!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 12, 2016, 01:00:09 pm
Thanks Captain Bobb  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 12, 2016, 01:05:46 pm
Bobb, because you have agreed to captain our Arrows B team you can have some information on the East Mersea - Brightlingsea ferry.

It is not running a full service at the moment but will start doing so on July 18th.  You can still book and it runs at weekends already.

On full service it runs from East Mersea at 15 minutes past the hour between 10 and 4.

The last bit down to the ferry is across a field and then over some shingle to the water's edge.  You can go to Brightlingsea or Point Clear.  Point Clear might be better as it leads back on to the road north east towards Harwich.

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 12, 2016, 01:47:44 pm
Mid - East Saxons, I know ferries and stuff have been talked about before, but does anyone have the low down on the ferries from East Mersea to Brightlingsea and the Harwich Harbour Foot & Bicycle Ferry? Are there any more on the Essex coast? I'd quite like to extend my bike on ferries count and it's rather criminal of me not to have used any of the Essex ones (apart from Tilbury to Gravesend)....

I feel a weekend camping trip coming on. Possibly up to Forest Camping in Rendlesham Forest (http://www.forestcamping.co.uk/)
I did 2 ferry's on the way back from Blaxhall last year including the Harwich one.

The Harwich one has a website (http://www.harwichharbourferry.com/ (http://www.harwichharbourferry.com/)) and I called the guy to tell him I was coming which meant he would make sure I had a space (I was the only bike in the end). I just picked up a leaflet the other day and they have a new boat for this year!
(http://www.thebrunners.com/audax/images/misc/harwich_ff.jpg) (http://www.thebrunners.com/audax/images/misc/harwich_ff.jpg)

A little bit further on the Felixstowe Ferry to Bawdsey Ferry across the Deben is a bit of a treasure as well. I think there are various ferries crossing the Deben up river as well.
(http://www.thebrunners.com/audax/images/misc/bawdsey_ff.jpg) (http://www.thebrunners.com/audax/images/misc/bawdsey_ff.jpg)

You can see the full ride HERE (https://ridewithgps.com/trips/6709914)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 12, 2016, 03:00:30 pm
Apart from Tomsk who has already declared an interest is anyone else planning on going to Lars' memorial bash on Sunday afternoon / evening?  If the weekend goes to plan I hope to be there.
I am intending on going. I have a pass.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 12, 2016, 03:31:24 pm
Mid - East Saxons, I know ferries and stuff have been talked about before, but does anyone have the low down on the ferries from East Mersea to Brightlingsea and the Harwich Harbour Foot & Bicycle Ferry? Are there any more on the Essex coast? I'd quite like to extend my bike on ferries count and it's rather criminal of me not to have used any of the Essex ones (apart from Tilbury to Gravesend)....

I feel a weekend camping trip coming on. Possibly up to Forest Camping in Rendlesham Forest (http://www.forestcamping.co.uk/)
I did 2 ferry's on the way back from Blaxhall last year including the Harwich one.....

Cheers, Nik!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 12, 2016, 03:37:10 pm
Bobb, because you have agreed to captain our Arrows B team you can have some information on the East Mersea - Brightlingsea ferry.

It is not running a full service at the moment but will start doing so on July 18th.  You can still book and it runs at weekends already.

On full service it runs from East Mersea at 15 minutes past the hour between 10 and 4.

The last bit down to the ferry is across a field and then over some shingle to the water's edge.  You can go to Brightlingsea or Point Clear.  Point Clear might be better as it leads back on to the road north east towards Harwich.



Thanks for the info.

I would like to take this opportunity to make an announcement:

It is with much regret that I am resigning as Arrows B team Captain. I would like to thank you all for the support you have given me for the duration of my captaincy. As departing captain, it is my duty to appoint a new captain for the next 12 months. It gives me great pleasure to announce your new Arrows B team Captain - tedshred. His tenure as captain starts with immediate effect. Thank you.

Over to you, Ted  :P
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 12, 2016, 03:42:48 pm
Thanks for the info.

I would like to take this opportunity to make an announcement:

It is with much regret that I am resigning as Arrows B team Captain. I would like to thank you all for the support you have given me for the duration of my captaincy. As departing captain, it is my duty to appoint a new captain for the next 12 months. It gives me great pleasure to announce your new Arrows B team Captain - tedshred. His tenure as captain starts with immediate effect. Thank you.

Over to you, Ted  :P
You'll never make it!

Considering that I have had the joy of riding in 2 Tomsk arranged arrows in the last 2 years and not really had to do anything other than Ride I would be happy to put my hand up should Ted decide he doesn't want it.

I might be a lot more stressed than Tomsk though!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 12, 2016, 03:49:24 pm
Thanks for the info.

I would like to take this opportunity to make an announcement:

It is with much regret that I am resigning as Arrows B team Captain. I would like to thank you all for the support you have given me for the duration of my captaincy. As departing captain, it is my duty to appoint a new captain for the next 12 months. It gives me great pleasure to announce your new Arrows B team Captain - tedshred. His tenure as captain starts with immediate effect. Thank you.

Over to you, Ted  :P

Maybe we should have a MEWLs ride and elect a captain.  Only those attending have a vote of course.  Huggy has the sort of qualities we are looking for; good navigational skills, a steady pace to shelter behind, organisational brilliance and, best of all, capacious luggage space to cater for every eventuality.

I am ignoring Tippers' rude remarks and his offer of captaincy as he is too fast for the B team.  You probably are as well but you'd miss us if you went up to the A team  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 12, 2016, 03:50:24 pm
I was an Arrow Captain once ... it didn't end well. Don't let me put you off ted!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 12, 2016, 03:53:00 pm
Thanks, you can be vice captain.  The vice captain can be a non-riding post if you wish but with Easter being so late next year it might be the most clement Arrows ride for a while...

I forecast a nice tailwind and a minimum temperature of 11 degrees overnight.  Pack your suncream for the Friday.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 12, 2016, 03:54:24 pm
No. Just no.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 12, 2016, 03:56:00 pm
Even by Elephant bike ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 12, 2016, 04:02:29 pm
I was an Arrow Captain once ... it didn't end well. Don't let me put you off ted!
...Huggy has the sort of qualities we are looking for; good navigational skills, a steady pace to shelter behind, organisational brilliance and, best of all, capacious luggage space to cater for every eventuality.
This is an opportune moment to advise those without the knowledge of history in this particular regard - I was navigator on the fated Essex B team assault on York previously - I navigated us to a flooded road causing us at least an hour of diversion, the rest is best blanked out from our collective memory unless we need to remind ourselves why we now don't do early Easter Arrows  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 12, 2016, 04:11:18 pm
I was navigator on the fated Essex B team assault on York previously 

Great, so you have experience as well  :thumbsup:

Bobb and I will bear that in mind when it comes to the vote.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 12, 2016, 04:13:56 pm
I was navigator on the fated Essex B team assault on York previously 

Great, so you have experience as well  :thumbsup:

Bobb and I will bear that in mind when it comes to the vote.
Well, we do know how much you like to go for a mid-ride swim but everyone has to also participate in the biathlon in an Arrow team event, so just bear that in mind when you're recruiting!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 12, 2016, 04:17:09 pm
Moving briskly on ...

Fred has been considerably lightened and now sports my Magic Bag Lite. Which I have made heavier by adding my new Surly hip flask which contains expensive rum. What could possibly ...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 12, 2016, 04:20:14 pm
Moving back a step...

Lighter bike, hip flask - sounds like you're gearing up for a day and night ride to a northern destination  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 12, 2016, 04:30:25 pm
Moving back a step...

Lighter bike, hip flask - sounds like you're gearing up for a day and night ride to a northern destination  :thumbsup:

I'm not. But my hip flask will be coming with us in June  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 12, 2016, 04:31:06 pm
This is an opportune moment to advise those without the knowledge of history in this particular regard - I was navigator on the fated Essex B team assault on York previously - I navigated us to a flooded road causing us at least an hour of diversion, the rest is best blanked out from our collective memory unless we need to remind ourselves why we now don't do early Easter Arrows  :facepalm:

Unusually, OD wasn't train-finder-in-chief for that escapade.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 12, 2016, 04:36:41 pm
This is an opportune moment to advise those without the knowledge of history in this particular regard - I was navigator on the fated Essex B team assault on York previously - I navigated us to a flooded road causing us at least an hour of diversion, the rest is best blanked out from our collective memory unless we need to remind ourselves why we now don't do early Easter Arrows  :facepalm:

Unusually, OD wasn't train-finder-in-chief for that escapade.
;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 12, 2016, 04:38:41 pm
I'm not. But my hip flask will be coming with us in June  :thumbsup:

Still working on that one...

I probably need to move from talking about doing rides to actually riding them  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 12, 2016, 05:39:10 pm
I'm flushed with energy and enthusiasm after The Shark and participation in the Essex arrow b or c team for next year sounds appealing. I'm afraid I'm not Captain material since I'd struggle to navigate out of Essex, but any of you trustworthy fellows would make a fine captain, even ted if he has a reliable bike that's not too heavy and has some gears, or not, by next Easter.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 12, 2016, 05:42:31 pm
Welcome to the team.  You will need to work on slowing down a bit though.

Hopefully Raymond can be persuaded as well.  He's very much a core part of the B team.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 12, 2016, 06:56:09 pm
Would be great to have Raymond on the team but how are we gonna persuade him to ride with us lazy slackers?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 12, 2016, 07:58:57 pm
I can't believe you're all talking about next Easter!  Oaky must be having a fit right now.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 12, 2016, 08:29:37 pm
It's called planning and it's encouraged on this thread.

That's nearly a full team already.  We must be the first for 2017 ?

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Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 12, 2016, 08:37:01 pm
I'm off to check The Rulz. This could result in a disaplinary!   ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 13, 2016, 01:46:58 pm
I think Untapp'd servers must have gone into meltdown. 

ted is well into his relaxed lunch with Mrs ted, and there's not even one entry on there yet!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 13, 2016, 01:48:08 pm
Lunch has yet to commence. ..

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Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 13, 2016, 02:34:56 pm
Aha! Normal service is resumed.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 14, 2016, 12:08:36 am
Cocktails, just say no kids.

Stick to Class A drugs. Much more sensible.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 14, 2016, 12:41:14 am
Lol, isn't there a thread you were going to start Steve?

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Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 14, 2016, 09:08:30 am
Taps fingers impatiently while waiting for someone to produce a report  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 14, 2016, 09:27:50 am
Taps fingers impatiently while waiting for someone to produce a report  :o

OK, here goes ...

Me, BFC on some ridiculous looking track bike, huggy, Oaky and AndyC3333333 set off from the Spa Road roundabout.  Heaven only knows where Doggers was, does he still exist?

Oaky decided not to go anywhere near anything that resembled a dodgy surface.  huggy's Garmin had a brain fart near The Compasses so stopped at which point we lost Oaky and BFC.  Nobody had their bike pinched as we passed The Compasses.

At the top of TMNH we met jibers doing repeats and moaning about his hip, he was also coughing.

At the pub the Danbury Dogger turned up and shortly after tippers and Tomsk arrived too.  There were 3 beers on offer but I can't remember the names of any of them.

Sensibly conversational topics included audaxes (various), Lars' memorial on Sunday.  Then we talked about something else which won't be mentioned on a public forum and it was suggested I start a thread about it which I'm not going to do. 

Then I remembered I had my hip flask with me and it got passed around so everyone could have a slurp ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2749_zpsszauk2kn.jpg)

More beer was ordered, I asked for a G&T and some tit suggested I have a cocktail ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_2750_zpsllo51lyn.jpg)

It was a Harvey Warbanger or some such I gather, I had a hangover this morning and was pi55ed when I got home and crashing about according to my annoyed and awoken wife.

Curiously the landlord seemed to want us to leave bang on 11pm, something about a wake today.  Given we spent in excess of £100 in his largely empty pub you'd think he would have been more welcoming  ::-) >:(

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 14, 2016, 09:32:18 am
£100 for a cocktail seems steep, no wonder you were pissed.

Glad it all went well.

I will do better and try to be out next week.  I may even suggest a venue and route.

DL will reappear soon no doubt.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 14, 2016, 01:41:14 pm
Great report OD but wrong thread???  ??? :facepalm:

Perhaps we should start a new MEMWNS thread with an alternative name....  "The Thread for MEMWNS ride reports that should be in the MEMWNS Thread "

What does it say in teh rulz?  ???
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 14, 2016, 01:45:51 pm
No, this is the thread for reports, miscellany and forward planning.

The MEMWNS thread is for near-term planning of MEMWNS rides only.

Those be the rulz.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 15, 2016, 09:57:10 am
No, this is the thread for reports, miscellany and forward planning.

The MEMWNS thread is for near-term planning of MEMWNS rides only.

Those be the rulz.
I think we need to request a pinned post to explain the MEMWxx rulz  ::-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 15, 2016, 10:05:45 am
No, this is the thread for reports, miscellany and forward planning.

The MEMWNS thread is for near-term planning of MEMWNS rides only.

Those be the rulz.
I think we need to request a pinned post to explain the MEMWxx rulz  ::-)

No, this is much more fun!  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 15, 2016, 10:56:01 am
The other thing this thread is for is dealing with serious matters.

Unfortunately I have one such to raise.

It seems that not everyone is taking their commitment to Untappd as seriously as they ought to.

A snapshot this morning reveals the following worrying stats:

Huggy - GSTQ Level 8 - Journeyman

Doggers GSTQ Level 7 - Apprentice

OD GSTQ Level 5 - Apprentice

Jiber - GSTQ Level 10  - Journeyman

Only Oaky can hold his head high:

Oaky GSTQ Level 13 - Journeyman

Meanwhile, Tippers hasn't even got an account.

Where is the dedication ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 15, 2016, 11:04:20 am
The last thing I need is another App to check in on at a pub.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 15, 2016, 11:04:52 am
OD GSTQ Level 5 - Apprentice

If only there was an app that logged G&Ts and Merlot.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 15, 2016, 11:15:38 am
OD GSTQ Level 5 - Apprentice

If only there was an app that logged G&Ts and Merlot plus cocktails  ;D

(click to show/hide)

Fixed something for you ^^^
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 15, 2016, 11:18:33 am
I'm actually quite pleased I'm not performing well on the drinking stakes, at least as judged by one metric.  There have been a number of occasions this year where I have found myself somewhat worse for wear, I was beginning to worry that a trend was developing.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 15, 2016, 12:30:47 pm
Cut out the merlot and cocktails and concentrate on ale instead  :thumbsup:

You will remain in control of what remains of your faculties and enhance your Untappd profile.  Everyone's a winner.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 15, 2016, 02:08:04 pm
Cut out the merlot and cocktails and concentrate on ale instead  :thumbsup:

You will remain in control of what remains of your faculties and enhance your Untappd profile.  Everyone's a winner.

If only it was that simple!  I can't just drink ale, there are so many other flavours to enjoy ... Horlicks, Merlot, Bovril, espresso Martini plus the rest of the cocktail list etc ...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 15, 2016, 02:38:15 pm
A snapshot this morning reveals the following worrying stats:

Huggy - GSTQ Level 8 - Journeyman

Where is the dedication ?
I'd like to make an observation and a comment on my logged beverages in Untappd.

First the observation - you clearly have far too much idle time on your hands, ted
Secondly, I tend to only log first sample of a beer on a given day and not bother with multiple samplings of each, I'll leave you to decide where that would elevate my statistics to.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 15, 2016, 03:15:44 pm
Quiet day at work....I have just bought a new tent and a sleeping mat. I figured that my 4 day 'tour' in June deserved more than my coffin sized one man job and that a rolled up foam mattress was so old fashioned.

If Catherine ever decides to check how much I paid for the tent I might well be sleeping in it a lot but after having a string of cheap tents that barely last a trip I would go for something in the middle of the price ranges.

Woohoo, that should mean that I will be much better equipped to camp at the next epiphany.

edit: I mention the Epiphany as it is much closer than the 2017 Arrow
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 15, 2016, 03:51:51 pm
What did you get???
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 15, 2016, 03:58:32 pm
edit: I mention the Epiphany as it is much closer than the 2017 Arrow

Good point - who did we elect as Epiphany 2017 organising committee?

How are the arrangements progressing? ;)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 15, 2016, 04:35:25 pm
tippers has the job for life.

bobb is Musical Director for life as well.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 15, 2016, 06:34:32 pm
Where is constable jiber of the thread police when you need him ?  Epiphany planning is for the epiphany thread
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 15, 2016, 06:50:01 pm
We haven't got an epiphany thread.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 15, 2016, 07:50:16 pm
I know.  It's mid - April
 You would think the Epiphany chair would be onto that by now


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Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 15, 2016, 07:55:02 pm
If we start an epiphany thread now we'll all get kicked of yacf. Then what would we do?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 15, 2016, 08:14:48 pm
Start the thread of course!

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Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 15, 2016, 11:15:35 pm
What did you get???
An MSR Hubba Hubba NX in Green.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 15, 2016, 11:18:08 pm
What did you get???
An MSR Hubba Hubba NX in Green.

Isn't that what chief had on the California trip?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 16, 2016, 09:33:11 am
I think chief had the much more expensive version  ;D

Nice tent though, many happy sleeps in it tippers.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 16, 2016, 02:06:29 pm
 ;D

I was struggling with if I should actually spend that money or not on a tent. The not have to thread poles through sleeves was what really made me look at it seriously and I figure I will just have to find reasons to use it more now!

Anyway, what time are folks heading down to the Shooting Star tomorrow?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: JenM on April 16, 2016, 07:13:37 pm
tippers has the job for life.

bobb is Musical Director for life as well.

Brill and Brill - especially if this guarantees another musical performance from OD
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: JenM on April 16, 2016, 07:19:53 pm
What did you get???

An MSR Hubba Hubba NX in Green.

An excellent choice. I have the Hubba Hubba HP which, I think, has less mesh than the NX. It is easy to put up, has good space inside and, having 2 porches, means bags etc can be stored easily.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 16, 2016, 09:00:24 pm
tippers has the job for life.

bobb is Musical Director for life as well.

Brill and Brill - especially if this guarantees another musical performance from OD

Really?!?  I don't think music in whatever form is my thing!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on April 16, 2016, 09:04:22 pm
Anyway, what time are folks heading down to the Shooting Star tomorrow?

Probably mid-late afternoon. More than that I cannot say, due to having family in tow...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 16, 2016, 09:17:07 pm
^^^ Ditto. If everything goes according to plan tomorrow.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 16, 2016, 10:16:10 pm
What did you get???

An MSR Hubba Hubba NX in Green.

An excellent choice. I have the Hubba Hubba HP which, I think, has less mesh than the NX. It is easy to put up, has good space inside and, having 2 porches, means bags etc can be stored easily.
:thumbsup: brilliant. Good to hear that from someone I know!

Sounds good for tomorrow. I suspect it might be 4pm earliest before I get to London
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 17, 2016, 10:29:51 am
I'm looking at the 14:47 train from Witham, gets me to the pub a little before 4pm.
Probably get the 18:32 train home.

All subject to change between now & then of course!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 17, 2016, 11:45:23 am
I'm eyeing the 12:47 or possibly 13:21 trains from Witham at the moment.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 17, 2016, 01:26:14 pm
I think chief had the much more expensive version  ;D

Nice tent though, many happy sleeps in it tippers.

I just re-read the report on that trip and realise it contains the original Lowestoft reference (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=34310.msg645030#msg645030) (it's in part 2, the post below the one linked).

We need a sticky MEMWNS FAQ thread to gather links such as this :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 17, 2016, 01:28:33 pm
I'm eyeing the 12:47 or possibly 13:21 trains from Witham at the moment.

after other communications, I'm now aiming for the 14:21.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 17, 2016, 01:38:56 pm
I'm eyeing the 12:47 or possibly 13:21 trains from Witham at the moment.

after other communications, I'm now aiming for the 14:21.
I can make the 14:21, see you there.  Will be buying the annual Network Railcard too if you wanna piggy back on the reduced rate with that
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 18, 2016, 05:47:24 am
I think chief had the much more expensive version  ;D

Nice tent though, many happy sleeps in it tippers.

I just re-read the report on that trip and realise it contains the original Lowestoft reference (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=34310.msg645030#msg645030) (it's in part 2, the post below the one linked).

We need a sticky MEMWNS FAQ thread to gather links such as this :)

Blimey, the California trip was nearly 6 years ago!   :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 19, 2016, 11:13:50 am
I read THIS WITH INTEREST! (http://www.bicycling.com/training/health-injuries/how-to-ride-with-a-hangover)   ::-) ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: rr on April 19, 2016, 06:22:31 pm
Spotted the other Chelmsford elephant bike on my diversion to Mr Saintsbury's emporium of toothy cumesstables this evening -- riding on the pavement and wearing hivis
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 20, 2016, 08:06:20 am
next time I will be able to identify you as the person on the road with no hi viz  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: rr on April 20, 2016, 04:57:46 pm
Unless it's raining, yellow night vision jacket and rainlegs
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 21, 2016, 07:22:55 am
Last night was excellent!  If you weren't there you missed out!  Is 52 miles a record for the Witham peloton?  I'm sure Tomsk regularly goes over 50 miles but I can't remember doing it.

Anyhow ... me, huggy, Andy C333333, Oaky and bobb set off from the Spa Road roundabout. Oaky didn't moan much as we enjoyed the COR just after Great Notley Country Park and we met up with Tomsk bang on schedule. We deviated slightly from last years route to avoid a flinty lane - by this point we were simply following Tomsk's wheel.  The Great Man decided we should push on past the site of last years disaster to the Half Moon at Belchamp St Paul were a couple of pints or coffee was enjoying, we'd earned it!

Then back out to a chilly evening (3degs) for the blast home. huggy was suffering from 2 weeks of eating burgers with assorted Disney characters so Andy and I hung back for him and we lost the other three.

Thanks to everyone for a terrific evening which mercifully was less dramatic than our ride a year ago.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 21, 2016, 07:32:09 am
I note that Bobb's ride was fairly epic for a school night.   He is putting together some miles this year.  Perhaps he is looking to move on from the B peloton?  Mind you, he has got some way to go if he is hoping to gain legendary status like DL.

I went for a solo MEMWNS ride.  After assembling with myself outside my house, I freestyled a more normal midweek length of ride which involved a stop at the Layer Fox to sample a Cornish Best.  Unlike the main peloton, I stuck to OD's one pint limit. Arriving home before 10 did feel like cheating though.

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Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 21, 2016, 07:57:57 am
Sorry I missed out last night, either at the Half Moon or the Fox.

Bobb is flying along, he was like a whippet up a drainpipe (or something similar) up the climbs on the Shark.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 21, 2016, 08:37:12 am
Sounds like a good night for all. I was pretty ill yesterday and was in bed by 20:30 although I probably would have given it a skip regardless as per my post in the other thread! Wednesday nights and the threat of high speed do very little for me   :sick:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on April 21, 2016, 08:55:59 am
...and we lost the other three...

I thought we lost you! Thinking I had the whole peloton in tow, we took a sensible [legal] route through Braintree. Solo, I'd have carried on up from Bradford Street and scooted on the pavement through the short one-way to the Rayne Road. Bobb and I waited for a while at the Notley Road turn, after Oaky ploughed on home, then went our separate ways - 52 miles for me too.

At Belchamp St Paul we were only a few miles short of the Mighty River Stour and Forrin Territory.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 21, 2016, 08:56:35 am
Yeah, Tomsk, Oaky and bobb were all going well.  I was too but did the gentlemanly thing with Andy and hung back for Minnie Mouse  O:-) :smug:

Mind you I think Our Friend from Disney TM will be back on song soon after he's got the G&YF in his legs.  I'm pretty sure The Shark did me a power of good.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 21, 2016, 10:48:17 am
64.2 miles for me  :)

It seemed to get warmer the closer to home I got. Either that or I got warmer!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 21, 2016, 10:53:44 am
At Belchamp St Paul we were only a few miles short of the Mighty River Stour and Forrin Territory.

It's as well we stopped short:  I'm not sure my vaccinations are up to date.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 21, 2016, 11:01:42 am
It's as well we stopped short:  I'm not sure my vaccinations are up to date.

Or theirs.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 21, 2016, 01:51:57 pm
It's as well we stopped short:  I'm not sure my vaccinations are up to date.

Or theirs.

[OD titters at Oaky's expense]  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 21, 2016, 04:22:33 pm
It's as well we stopped short:  I'm not sure my vaccinations are up to date.

Or theirs.

/me chuckles

BTW - I found an article about your bike (http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/story/second_life/?utm_source=bm23&utm_medium=email&utm_term=%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0Read+on%C2%A0%C2%A0%C2%A0&utm_content=http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/story/second_life/&utm_campaign=20160420+US+Consumer+Carbon+Recycling), ted  ;)

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 21, 2016, 04:30:02 pm
At least I know where it's going  >:(
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 21, 2016, 10:42:04 pm
I'm of to the (cycle) clinic on Saturday to pick up n+1, boy I hope Mrs Tipper remembers me telling her I was buying it  :facepalm:

Anyone need anything, let me know.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 07:49:17 am
Yes, my wheels, except they aren't ready.  Last week I was 13th on the list and expecting to collect today. Yesterday I was 7th and he was hoping for next Thursday.  The tubeless stuff arrived yesterday so all a bit tight for G&Y.

Therefore you are going to have to cut the chatter down today.   Instead of oohing and aahing over your new steed and letting your Kiwi bonhomie loose; get in, tell him it's lovely and get out
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 22, 2016, 09:31:18 am
Carlosfandango....those tubeless tyres we talked about......I'm going to give it one more go so for the second time in 6 months an offer of tyres has to be retracted.

I do have a pair of Hutchinsons and IRCs with a couple of patches on the inside you can have for nowt if you want to try them out.

(and for those that were quick....yes I did change my mind within a couple of seconds and I deleted a post  ;D)

Lets see how much extra Cut Resistance these Schwalbes provide on Welsh roads (http://road.cc/content/review/173205-schwalbe-s-one-tubeless-tyre)


Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 22, 2016, 09:35:01 am
Excellent, tippers goes tubeless again ... and in Wales ... on a very long ride.  Draw up a chair folks, settle down and watch the fun commence  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 09:38:36 am
I have gone with the 28mm Schwalbe Pro Ones.

If they are even half as good as they are supposed to be they should be amazing. 

Malcolm of Cycle Clinic seems to think the whole tubeless thing is easy but I am pretty much going to be riding G&Y as my test ride.

One thing he did say when I said I was going to go tubeless on the new wheels was "you will be using Schwalbe won't you ?".

If Tippers and I end up at the side of the road together covered in sealant I will not be happy  :o

Mind you, I won't be using them in Wales as I will have gears for that ride.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 22, 2016, 09:43:31 am
If Tippers and I end up at the side of the road together covered in sealant I will not be happy  :o
Is that some kind of new fetish, if so could you take it off to the MED* thread, please.


*Mid Essex Doggers
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 09:45:22 am
Why else do you think the north Essex chapter are all so keen on tubeless  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 22, 2016, 09:48:48 am
Why else do you think the north Essex chapter are all so keen on tubeless  ;D

There's nothing like a bit of tribalism, it'll end up like Lord of the Flies, you mark my words!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 09:52:40 am
You started the schism with your mid-Essex supremacy.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 22, 2016, 09:55:32 am
You started the schism with your mid-Essex supremacy.

Me and Donald Trump, we're both unifiers!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 22, 2016, 10:06:13 am
Malcolm of Cycle Clinic seems to think the whole tubeless thing is easy but I am pretty much going to be riding G&Y as my test ride.

One thing he did say when I said I was going to go tubeless on the new wheels was "you will be using Schwalbe won't you ?".

If Tippers and I end up at the side of the road together covered in sealant I will not be happy  :o

Mind you, I won't be using them in Wales as I will have gears for that ride.
On the G&Y with all those flint strewn lanes...good testing territory...I'll see how you get on with them.

One thing he did say when I said I was going to go tubeless on the new wheels was "you will be using Schwalbe won't you ?".
What? no mention of IRC ;-)

If Tippers and I end up at the side of the road together covered in sealant I will not be happy  :o
Now that really would look all wrong

As for switching to them for the BCM, from memory last year the road in Wales are sublime, it was the English bit that was an issue and that has been rerouted this year.

Surely tubeless can't cause more problems than a chain into the back wheel at the best part of 20 mph? Might pack 2 Durano+ just in case and take the carradice after all.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 10:08:32 am
Might pack 2 Durano+ just in case and take the carradice after all.

Were you originally going with the Fandango micro saddlebag for two condoms and some lube strategy then ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 22, 2016, 10:10:57 am
not quite....but was thinking much lighter than usual....my previous experience is likely to stop me from doing that though.

Currently, I am still trying to decide if riding 300km on fixed gear a week after getting the bike is a good idea....at the moment that is a no
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 10:18:44 am
With all your track experience it should be a breeze.

Anyway, what difference is a few weeks going to make ?  You can ride fixed already and you are certainly strong enough.

Get a 75" gear on and go for it.

Go on, you know you want to  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 22, 2016, 10:29:37 am
With all your track experience it should be a breeze.

Anyway, what difference is a few weeks going to make ?  You can ride fixed already and you are certainly strong enough.

Get a 75" gear on and go for it.

Go on, you know you want to  :thumbsup:
This smells like ted doesn't want to be the only one foolish enough to ride it fixed and tubeless  ::-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 10:31:28 am
Well spotted Columbo  :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 22, 2016, 10:33:15 am
there would not be any tubeless involved....that would be stupid (for me)  ;D

Although, a new cassette and chain could do with a test run prior to the Welsh spin....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 22, 2016, 10:44:47 am
Carlosfandango....those tubeless tyres we talked about......I'm going to give it one more go so for the second time in 6 months an offer of tyres has to be retracted.



No worries tippers, I think I'm gonna go with the new pro ones like ted. If they can stand his power, acceleration and underwater riding they might be good for me.

I saw your new frame and jumble of parts at the clinic, it looks very nice.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 10:47:11 am

I saw your new frame and jumble of parts at the clinic, it looks very nice.

How many times, can you lot leave that man alone.  He has wheels to build  >:(
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 22, 2016, 10:48:58 am
Might pack 2 Durano+ just in case and take the carradice after all.

Were you originally going with the Fandango micro saddlebag for two condoms and some lube strategy then ?

I dunno what's wrong with a couple of condoms and a tyre lever, what else do you guys pack in those huge saddlebags????
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 22, 2016, 10:51:17 am
Spare tyres and sealant!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 10:55:25 am
In other news a man has just knocked on my door and handed me a box with my new frame.

I have some building to do...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 22, 2016, 10:57:27 am
Spare tyres and sealant!

Fair enough, you do have special wheel and tyre wrecking talents.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 22, 2016, 10:59:15 am
In other news a man has just knocked on my door and handed me a box with my new frame.

I have some building to do...

Hooray, but are you sure you don't want someone who knows what they're doing to build it?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 22, 2016, 11:03:10 am
Spare tyres and sealant!

Fair enough, you do have special wheel and tyre wrecking talents.
Yes, he does!!!  :demon:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 11:04:43 am


Hooray, but are you sure you don't want someone who knows what they're doing to build it?

What could possibly go wrong  :facepalm:

If I knew how I would put a picture of it on here.

I might stick one into the new facebook group if I am still allowed access to the mid-Essex area.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 22, 2016, 11:19:09 am
If I knew how I would put a picture of it on here.

I might stick one into the new facebook group if I am still allowed access to the mid-Essex area.
(https://stoptalk.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/shhh2.jpg)
Probably best that we don't let you in to the seekrit of how to post pictures here, they'll only be upside down or artistically out of focus anyway.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 11:20:59 am
Those hats suit you and Tippers  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 22, 2016, 11:23:55 am
 ;D  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 22, 2016, 11:24:06 am


Hooray, but are you sure you don't want someone who knows what they're doing to build it?

What could possibly go wrong  :facepalm:

If I knew how I would put a picture of it on here.

I might stick one into the new facebook group if I am still allowed access to the mid-Essex area.

I'd like to see it, the right way up if possible! I bet it looks lovely.

Why don't you bring it to the pub next Wednesday with the wheels and the box of bits and we can knock it together with a couple of multitools?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 22, 2016, 11:27:51 am

Why don't you bring it to the pub next Wednesday with the wheels and the box of bits and we can knock it together with a couple of multitools?

Artists impression of the result:

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 11:32:25 am
looks fine to me  :thumbsup:  Chain's a bit slack though.

I could put it on the elephant bike and bring it along.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 22, 2016, 12:08:03 pm
Errr, we'll be a bit busy next Wednesday talking about matters of great import, we won't have time for fettling. I take it you lot saw my official notice???
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 22, 2016, 12:15:26 pm
Are you going to have a gavel?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 22, 2016, 12:17:24 pm
A gabbel?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 22, 2016, 12:26:18 pm
A grovel ?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 22, 2016, 01:23:03 pm
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cb/3D_Judges_Gavel.jpg/1280px-3D_Judges_Gavel.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 22, 2016, 01:58:43 pm
Oh, it's an Auction! Great
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 23, 2016, 01:52:05 pm
Yes, my wheels, except they aren't ready.  Last week I was 13th on the list and expecting to collect today. Yesterday I was 7th and he was hoping for next Thursday.  The tubeless stuff arrived yesterday so all a bit tight for G&Y.

Therefore you are going to have to cut the chatter down today.   Instead of oohing and aahing over your new steed and letting your Kiwi bonhomie loose; get in, tell him it's lovely and get out
I might have delayed things a bit for you this morning  ;D

He is a very busy chap indeed and was still building the bike up. An audience never helps but I got involved and I left with a fixed gear bike  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 23, 2016, 02:06:59 pm
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 23, 2016, 04:15:02 pm
Lots of new bikes!  Three by my count.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 23, 2016, 08:05:28 pm
BFC/Tomsk for various reasons I ended up with a half link chan, any specific concerns I should have. Research I have done seems most people say the extra weight is the main issue...not really a worry for me ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 25, 2016, 12:40:52 pm
... for various reasons I ended up with a half link chain ...

Because it was Shiny! (or Purple?)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 25, 2016, 12:50:06 pm
... for various reasons I ended up with a half link chain ...

Because it was Shiny! (or Purple?)
Shiny and looks the business  ;D

Mainly it was down to the fact that the standard chain was skipping in one spot and the half link was the only other option available.

in other news...yesterday I put the Durano Pluses on the bike and headed out for a ride. Before I got past the Jam Factory I had 2 noises that didn't sound right. I stopped to have a poke about and found that the chain seemed pretty loose which made sense as when I looked down it seemed to be doing some kind of weird motion. Chain tightened....1 noise gone.

The second one was coming from the front disc, it took a bit of messing about with wheel position and pads to get rid of it, will need to take a better look at it but I got rid of it for the ride.

With the chain thing I have now orders a Surly Tuggnut, I figure a functional bottle opener is just what my new bike needs

(http://www.63xc.com/rickc/tuggnuts.jpg)

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 25, 2016, 02:07:07 pm
The second one was coming from the front disc, it took a bit of messing about with wheel position and pads to get rid of it, will need to take a better look at it but I got rid of it for the ride.
Just in case I'm not telling you to suck eggs, a little titbit of wisdom I have found with disc brake rotor alignment, especially after messing around with wheels off on the work stand - before I trust/make any adjustment I put the bike on the floor and loosen then tighten the skewer.  Usually when I loosen it the wheel clunks down in to the dropouts which I rarely seem to locate properly when up in the air on the stand.  Once hub is aligned correctly I then find that the rotors are also aligned and don't make any frustrating noises.
If you already do something similar then I'll just go back to sleep and let you get on with finding the cause of the annoyance  ::-)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 25, 2016, 02:40:03 pm
The second one was coming from the front disc, it took a bit of messing about with wheel position and pads to get rid of it, will need to take a better look at it but I got rid of it for the ride.
Just in case I'm not telling you to suck eggs, a little titbit of wisdom I have found with disc brake rotor alignment, especially after messing around with wheels off on the work stand - before I trust/make any adjustment I put the bike on the floor and loosen then tighten the skewer.  Usually when I loosen it the wheel clunks down in to the dropouts which I rarely seem to locate properly when up in the air on the stand.  Once hub is aligned correctly I then find that the rotors are also aligned and don't make any frustrating noises.
If you already do something similar then I'll just go back to sleep and let you get on with finding the cause of the annoyance  ::-)
;D

Oh yeah....I made that mistake a few times...thought I had a busted hub once  :facepalm: But I better try it again anyway. The day one actually has forward facing drop outs on the front.

In this case it just about seems like the rotor is a bit too big. At first it sounded like a spoke loose which I quickly ruled out....very weird. I'll have a bit of a fettle tonight and if it still makes the noise we can all take a look while the votes are being counted on Wednesday.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on April 25, 2016, 04:05:13 pm
BFC/Tomsk for various reasons I ended up with a half link chan, any specific concerns I should have. Research I have done seems most people say the extra weight is the main issue...not really a worry for me ;D

Only used a half-link chain once some time ago, no issues...I just like standard KMC stainless, seems to last well, though not cheap. Is shiny though  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 25, 2016, 04:12:08 pm
Yet more evidence that fixed, supposedly the "simple" solution, is in fact very complex!  I have no idea what you lot are talking about. Is it me?  Am I just being as thick as a whale omelette? 
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 25, 2016, 05:59:03 pm
You really want us to answer that?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 25, 2016, 06:15:52 pm
You really want us to answer that?

I suppose not.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 26, 2016, 11:04:10 am
What I have found in my VERY short experience is that the simplicity once riding will end up being what brings the smile to ones face. All the thinking and selecting is done before you get on the bike.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 26, 2016, 11:07:46 am
What I have found in my VERY short experience is that the simplicity once riding will end up being what brings the smile to ones face.

+1  :thumbsup:

In fact, I think I will go for a ride shortly just to put a smile on my face.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 26, 2016, 11:43:51 am
Should we start a MEMWFGNS thread?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 26, 2016, 11:47:44 am
Well if Bobb comes through on his promise to go fixed after the BCM then we won't need to as we will pretty much be that anyway.  Only the heretics will be left using gears  :thumbsup:

By the way, what is your new bike (which I assume has the facility to change gear) ?

Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 26, 2016, 12:47:32 pm
By the way, what is your new bike (which I assume has the facility to change gear) ?

It does indeed have gears... It's a Planet X London Road (http://www.planetx.co.uk/c/q/bikes/road-bikes/london-road) (mine's in black).
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 26, 2016, 12:54:53 pm
N-1+1 pretty much fresh out of the box:-

(http://www.oakden.org/mark/bike/yacf/pics/pxlr_small.jpg) (http://www.oakden.org/mark/bike/yacf/pics/pxlr_large.jpg)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 26, 2016, 02:13:52 pm
 :thumbsup:

Looks nice in black.  The green one on the website should have been called "OD Green".  It was a little vivid.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 26, 2016, 02:23:37 pm
:thumbsup:

Looks nice in black.  The green one on the website should have been called "OD Green".  It was a little vivid.

Yes, my legal team are already talking to Planet X about them nicking the colour from my avant garde palate. Disgraceful.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 26, 2016, 02:39:41 pm
  It was a little vivid.

Say's the man astride his "belisha beacon orange"  bike.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 26, 2016, 05:17:48 pm
That bike's old now, I've had it nearly 5 days.

It looks like my next bike will be an equally vivid yellow...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 26, 2016, 05:23:21 pm
That bike's old now, I've had it nearly 5 days.

It looks like my next bike will be an equally vivid yellow...
WTF? You have to ride these things as well....
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 26, 2016, 05:47:16 pm
Sorry Tippers, remind me what is your current N ?

As of last week mine was 3.  It is now 4. Hopefully sometime next week it will be 5  :thumbsup:  I suspect the bling on your CdF alone would account for about 3 of my complete bikes  ;D

Talking of bling and to amuse Carlos in particular, I have just sourced some orange material to make a co-ordinated mud flap for Guilliamo.  I know it won't be a Walomatic Enterprises original but hopefully it will do the job without Bobb and Jiber making loud remarks about being splashed by little bits of mud, the little lambs.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 26, 2016, 06:02:34 pm
I read the last two words of your post as "little limbs". Talking of short people do you think we'll see DL this week? 
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on April 26, 2016, 07:24:11 pm
Mid-Essex Winter Brevet Populaire Series: new topic wot I started over in 'Audax'...

So I was thinking...

A one-a-month 100km series from say, November to February: X-rated, mid-morning [10:00?] pub start to facilitate ECE-ing to 200. Ride to a good café and back via a few info controls.

I'd take this on myself, as it's not too arduous a project, but is any of the Mid-Essex Crew interested in dipping a toe into the waters of organising?? There's myself and Huggy who could mentor and help get things started.

Start of choice would for me be the 'Battisford Court' Wetherspoons in Witham. Lots of room, decent size beer garden for cycle-parking, good choice of food [and beer  ;D]. Witham has good train and road links and it's not too big a town to find reasonably quick routes out into the countryside. Chelmsford or Colchester would be less attractive. Well placed for routes out to the coast, up to Suffolk [Wally's Cafe?] and indeed all points of the Compass...

Thoughts...?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 26, 2016, 08:14:48 pm
I don't want to be an organiser but I'm happy to help out. Just let me know what needs doing.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 26, 2016, 08:33:21 pm
I am definitely interested in participating and helping to organise


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Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 26, 2016, 09:01:03 pm
Potentially... Witham is a bit close for an ECE for me.... but a 100 km ride out with friends is always welcome :)  :thumbsup:

In other news, I appear to have done something to my knee today, it started hurting after I got off the turbo and seems to hurt if I straighten it (front inner right knee)... nothing has changed in my setup so I'm hoping if I give it some rest till Friday I'll be OK... worried!  :o
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on April 26, 2016, 09:09:58 pm
I am definitely interested in participating and helping to organise

ok ted  we can start looking at routes and dates soon  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 26, 2016, 09:15:37 pm
A route based on last Wednesday's ride might be good.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on April 27, 2016, 10:23:03 am
A route based on last Wednesday's ride might be good.

Go on, you know you're tempted to take up the organiser's baton... :thumbsup:

Step one is to contact our Regional Co-ordinator ['Iddu' otp] to be set up as a fledgling organiser [bit of form-filling involved here] and to get access to the planner: then check for clashes with other events [probably not a problem in that season], pick a date and start playing with maps. There's the summer for leisurely route checking, route sheet writing and sussing out cafes and pubs for the 50km control.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

The events will need to go live in time for the autumn edition of 'Arrivee', but the sooner the better...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 27, 2016, 10:41:50 am
Is it time to form Audax Club Mid-Essex?  (ACME  ;D)

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Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 27, 2016, 10:46:20 am
 :thumbsup:

Think of the marketing potential with the Jerseys !
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on April 27, 2016, 11:01:04 am
ACME, I like  ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 27, 2016, 11:09:08 am
I want an ACME jersey!  ;D
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 27, 2016, 11:16:21 am
A route based on last Wednesday's ride might be good.

Go on, you know you're tempted to take up the organiser's baton... :thumbsup:

Step one is to contact our Regional Co-ordinator ['Iddu' otp] to be set up as a fledgling organiser [bit of form-filling involved here] and to get access to the planner: then check for clashes with other events [probably not a problem in that season], pick a date and start playing with maps. There's the summer for leisurely route checking, route sheet writing and sussing out cafes and pubs for the 50km control.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

The events will need to go live in time for the autumn edition of 'Arrivee', but the sooner the better...

I absolutely 1 trillion % do not want to become an AUK organiser. I love organising stuff but don't fancy organising audaxes cos you have to follow rulz.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 27, 2016, 11:21:11 am
I am on the verge of filling in some forms...

I will try to explain later if I make it out which is now 80/20 likely.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 27, 2016, 11:23:07 am
I think we do need a jersey of some description.  Who's good at designing stuff?  Tomsk?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 27, 2016, 12:05:59 pm
I've just put in an order for 3 boxes (36 in total) of the Lucho Dillito Guava Pastilles. I'll bring some tasters along to one of the Wednesday night rides for those that have not tried them.

If anybody wants to buy part of a  box (or a whole box) let me know, I know that at 16.99 per box of 12 they are not the cheapest but they are damn good to eat and they do work (for me anyway). I'm happy to take a bit of a hit on them and go to £15 per box this time round...

edit: and the boxes make a brilliant holder for your brevet cards  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 27, 2016, 12:46:55 pm
I really ought to update everyone on the Trek Domane saga as I was quick enough to post something when I had the initial response from Thomas's Cycle Revolution.

After the chain stay broke I took the bike into Cycles UK in Chelmsford.  They could not have been more helpful and were incredulous about the whole bottom bracket story.  They arranged for the frame to be couriered back to Trek UK and put all the bits in a box for me.

When the frame arrived at Trek UK their initial response was to say that the chain stay breakage was my fault. On reflection, I think this is probably right after the hurried re-build and major fail that I had at the start of the H4C Perm  :facepalm:  They hadn't been made aware of the bottom bracket issue at this point however.

I have to say that once they became aware of that issue, they could not have been more helpful.   Everything has now been resolved to my complete satisfaction and I am feeling a little bad for doubting Trek in the first place  :-[ 

It seems that you have to fight to get past unresponsive dealers, or go to somewhere that knows what they are talking about like Cycles UK seem to do.  If you can escalate the issue to Trek UK then I believe that they will deal with it fairly.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 27, 2016, 12:59:37 pm
That's good news Ted, I hope you're taking your legal team to lunch as a reward for their efforts.

So, have you a new Domane frame from Trek or monies to spend on a new bright, vivid and gawdy frameset?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 27, 2016, 01:12:17 pm
I want an ACME jersey!  ;D

Me too!

We need to add an agenda item tonight to discuss the design :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 27, 2016, 01:12:52 pm
I've just put in an order for 3 boxes (36 in total) of the Lucho Dillito Guava Pastilles. I'll bring some tasters along to one of the Wednesday night rides for those that have not tried them.

If anybody wants to buy part of a  box (or a whole box) let me know, I know that at 16.99 per box of 12 they are not the cheapest but they are damn good to eat and they do work (for me anyway). I'm happy to take a bit of a hit on them and go to £15 per box this time round...

edit: and the boxes make a brilliant holder for your brevet cards  :thumbsup:

You're wasted in your present employment tippers. You are a brilliant salesman of bespoke cycling nutrition.

You rival ted(Arfur Daley)shred in your audaciousness and business acumen.

PS, I'll have a taster this evening, please.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 27, 2016, 01:19:30 pm
I want an ACME jersey!  ;D

Me too!

We need to add an agenda item tonight to discuss the design :)

An ACME jersey is an awesome idea😃👍
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 27, 2016, 01:21:13 pm
Good news ted!

Yes, let's talk jerseys this evening as well as the other matter.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 27, 2016, 01:23:51 pm
What's technically involved in establishing an actual virtual club (as per Audax Club Hackney etc.)?

Looking at the ACH site - it seems that their method is to just have folks change their club in their AUK membership profile to "Audax Club Hackney"

Quick straw poll of MEMWNS AUK members - who is wedded to their current AUK Club affiliation setting and who would be willing to chage to "Audax Club Mid-Essex" (or "ACME", if we prefer)?

Mine's currently set to yacf, but I'd happily change.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 27, 2016, 01:24:12 pm
Good news ted!

Yes, let's talk jerseys this evening as well as the other matter.

You mean the stoning issue?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 27, 2016, 01:30:32 pm
I may have just registered the audaxclubmidessex.org.uk and audaxclubmid-essex.org.uk domain names.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 27, 2016, 01:32:31 pm
I may have just registered the audaxclubmidessex.org.uk and audaxclubmid-essex.org.uk domain names.

Well done Oaky, you'd make an excellent club Secretary.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 27, 2016, 01:33:17 pm
You mean the stoning issue?

Is there another issue ?



Quick straw poll of MEMWNS AUK members - who is wedded to their current AUK Club affiliation setting and who would be willing to chage to "Audax Club Mid-Essex" (or "ACME", if we prefer)?


I am happy to become a member of ACME for AUK purposes.  Bobb can create a fabby website for us  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 27, 2016, 01:35:01 pm
That's good news Ted, I hope you're taking your legal team to lunch as a reward for their efforts.

So, have you a new Domane frame from Trek or monies to spend on a new bright, vivid and gawdy frameset?

I will take myself to lunch, yes.

I have a new bright, vivid and gaudy bike coming but not a Domane this time.  I might even ride it in Wales.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 27, 2016, 01:37:36 pm
That's good news Ted, I hope you're taking your legal team to lunch as a reward for their efforts.

So, have you a new Domane frame from Trek or monies to spend on a new bright, vivid and gawdy frameset?

I will take myself to lunch, yes.

I have a new bright, vivid and gaudy bike coming but not a Domane this time.  I might even ride it in Wales.

Wow, 2 new bikes in 2 weeks, what's your new, new bike?
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 27, 2016, 01:42:08 pm
It is a very yellow Trek Emonda  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 27, 2016, 01:54:59 pm
It is a very yellow Trek Emonda  :thumbsup:

SL6? Very racy. Yellow is a good colour.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 27, 2016, 02:19:33 pm
What's technically involved in establishing an actual virtual club (as per Audax Club Hackney etc.)?

Looking at the ACH site - it seems that their method is to just have folks change their club in their AUK membership profile to "Audax Club Hackney"

Quick straw poll of MEMWNS AUK members - who is wedded to their current AUK Club affiliation setting and who would be willing to chage to "Audax Club Mid-Essex" (or "ACME", if we prefer)?

Mine's currently set to yacf, but I'd happily change.


Mine is Chelmer CC, but I have no qualms about changing to ACME :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on April 27, 2016, 02:23:41 pm
I shall start on a website. Let me know any ideas you might have for content. Also, we should start getting some decent photos together. We should have tons!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 27, 2016, 02:46:33 pm
Would you like a photo of my tattoo?  Also, we'll need a theme tune, you'll know where I'm going with this idea ...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 27, 2016, 03:02:06 pm
Not to be confused with http://www.acme-wheelers.co.uk/ (http://www.acme-wheelers.co.uk/)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 27, 2016, 03:42:14 pm
How quickly an idea develops.....brilliant....

Carlos, I only ordered the pastilles this lunch time, I don't fancy the chances of them being there by the time I get home....although this Columbian stuff does travel in mysterious ways!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 27, 2016, 03:53:08 pm
Presumably ACME will be the organising club for the winter brevet series
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on April 27, 2016, 04:26:17 pm
Sounds like an excellent idea :)

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Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 27, 2016, 06:01:42 pm
So that's the name thing sorted.  All that leaves is whether or not comedy beards are required for the stoning, could be controversial.

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Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 27, 2016, 07:46:19 pm
I've just put in an order for 3 boxes (36 in total) of the Lucho Dillito Guava Pastilles. I'll bring some tasters along to one of the Wednesday night rides for those that have not tried them.

If anybody wants to buy part of a  box (or a whole box) let me know, I know that at 16.99 per box of 12 they are not the cheapest but they are damn good to eat and they do work (for me anyway). I'm happy to take a bit of a hit on them and go to £15 per box this time round...

edit: and the boxes make a brilliant holder for your brevet cards
I'll take one Nik :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 27, 2016, 07:47:19 pm
What's technically involved in establishing an actual virtual club (as per Audax Club Hackney etc.)?

Looking at the ACH site - it seems that their method is to just have folks change their club in their AUK membership profile to "Audax Club Hackney"

Quick straw poll of MEMWNS AUK members - who is wedded to their current AUK Club affiliation setting and who would be willing to chage to "Audax Club Mid-Essex" (or "ACME", if we prefer)?

Mine's currently set to yacf, but I'd happily change.
I'd be happy, think I'm down as Chelmsford CTC at the moment...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 28, 2016, 08:07:47 am
Audax Club Mid Essex (“ACME”)

Minutes of the inaugural a meeting of the founders of the club held at The Compasses, Totham, Mid Essex on 27 April 2016 at 9.15pm.

PRESENT:
Oscar’s Dad (chair)
The Hustler
Tomsk
Tippers_Kiwi
Carlos Fandango
Tedshred

1. NOTICE AND QUORUM

The Chairman reported that due notice of the meeting had been given and that a quorum was present. Accordingly, the Chairman declared the meeting open.

Apologies were received from Bobb, Oaky and Huggy.

2. BUSINESS OF THE MEETING

The Chairman reported that the business of the meeting was to consider and, if deemed fit, to approve the formation of a new audax cycling club.

3. RESOLUTIONS

3.1 It was RESOLVED in the following order to approve:
3.1.1 the formation of ACME;
3.1.2 the change of the name of the facebook group to “Mid-Essex YACF”;
3.1.3 the constitution of ACME, (being “what OD says goes”).

4. APPOINTMENTS

4.1 It was agreed to make the following appointments:
4.1.1 Tomsk as artist in residence;
4.1.2 Oaky as club secretary; and
4.1.3   Bobb as webmaster

 5. CLOSE
There was no further business and the Chairman declared the meeting closed.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 28, 2016, 08:16:17 am
Now that the grave and formal business is out of the way, I can do the usual report on the night's activities.

I caught a small Witham peloton, consisting only of OD and the Hustler, just before reaching the Compasses.  Carlos Fandango hove into view as we turned the corner and, before we had even locked our bikes, Tippers appeared on his shiny new fixed machine with the hipster chain.

Tomsk had already settled in the pub.

In a worrying development, the pub only had a couple of ales on last night.  It can usually be relied on for a good selection.  What they did have was Crouch Vale's Essex Boys (the Quaffers' Choice), a  Black IPA at 7% and a Wibblers Cherry Beer at 12%.  OD bravely went for the Cherry Beer and may have regretted this judging by the pained expression on his face.

After our formal meeting the talk was of tubeless tyres, hapless mechanics (me mainly :facepalm:) and the Green & Yellow Fields ride.

We set off home into the sleet at a reasonably sensible hour having enjoyed another great MEMWNs night  :thumbsup:



Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 28, 2016, 08:32:20 am
My Garmin said it was 2degsC on the way home!  It's nearly May and that's way too cold.

I was excited to note that most of the people present last night hadn't seen my tattoo. I wonder how many others there are out there?  Investigation is clearly required.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on April 28, 2016, 09:13:03 am
Clearly 'ACME' is an idea whose time has come  :thumbsup:

The cherry beer was 'interesting', more like a very rough home brewed wine.

I managed to avoid the sleet, until about a mile from home. There are definite signs of spring, though...an outbreak of new bikes, mainly.  :D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: JenM on April 28, 2016, 10:08:00 am
Wanna be in your gang, your gang.....put a deposit down on new bike yesterday (Specialized Dolce Evo) which I'll pick up next week. What fun!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 28, 2016, 10:27:07 am
Wanna be in your gang, your gang.....put a deposit down on new bike yesterday (Specialized Dolce Evo) which I'll pick up next week. What fun!

Hooray!!!  You need to spend more time with us.  Have you seen my tattoo?

Yes, Tomsk, the 12% cherry beer wasn't great. 
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on April 28, 2016, 10:42:43 am
The cherry beer did do strange things to some people with exhibitionist tendencies :o

A cheerful night and exciting plans for the future.

It was a bit chilly on the ride home, so glad I had the foresight to wear a pair of track mitts :facepalm:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on April 28, 2016, 10:48:48 am
Mid-Essex Winter Brevet Populaire Series: new topic wot I started over in 'Audax'...

So I was thinking...

A one-a-month 100km series from say, November to February: X-rated, mid-morning [10:00?] pub start to facilitate ECE-ing to 200. Ride to a good café and back via a few info controls.

I'd take this on myself, as it's not too arduous a project, but is any of the Mid-Essex Crew interested in dipping a toe into the waters of organising?? There's myself and Huggy who could mentor and help get things started.

Start of choice would for me be the 'Battisford Court' Wetherspoons in Witham. Lots of room, decent size beer garden for cycle-parking, good choice of food [and beer  ;D]. Witham has good train and road links and it's not too big a town to find reasonably quick routes out into the countryside. Chelmsford or Colchester would be less attractive. Well placed for routes out to the coast, up to Suffolk [Wally's Cafe?] and indeed all points of the Compass...

Thoughts...?
Going back to the original post that kicked off this thread of club invention (sorry, I've been a little busy recently!)...we do have at least 2 100k routes to put in to the pot ready to go.  There is the A little Essex R&R (https://goo.gl/maps/wxu9EzcZT1Q2) which will be my August calendar event, I think it will make a good winter route too, and a DIY (https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/156229400) that has been ridden by at least OD and me.  Something to get us started anyway.

Sign me up for an ACME jersey  :thumbsup:

We could have a tattoo subpage on the new ACME website 
There would of course be a discussion opportunity there for suggestions for the ACMETM tattoo which is merely a development of the MEMWNS tattoo muted on occasions past.  :demon:

With all the generous offers of help I have received for my Essex R&R event I'm sure there are some potential organisers in these parts or at least a bed rock of helpers talent to draw upon!

On the webpage front page the banner has to be
   ACME - what OD says goes

p.s. does the formation of ACME give us license to make a take over bid on the Audax forum page too?!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 28, 2016, 12:31:50 pm
Let's try not to get us all chucked off yacf with yet more threads!  We come in peace folks, world domination is not our aim.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 28, 2016, 02:14:51 pm
I have been to collect my wheels.  Those of you familiar with the source will not be surprised to learn that the front wheel was still on the stand being built when I arrived  ;D

They do look very nice though and weigh a smidge over 1700g for the pair with the locking nuts on. 

Just the tubeless thing to do now before setting off on G&Y !

Tippers, I have your cranks as well and will drop them off at yours tomorrow with the press and your new spare fork.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on April 28, 2016, 02:24:39 pm
tippers is going to be riding around with a spare fork!?!  What nature of disaster does he think is likely to befall him!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on April 28, 2016, 02:28:23 pm
At my current rate I am thinking about riding around with a spare frame.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: delthebike on April 28, 2016, 03:04:11 pm
Never mind ACME Norton Heath Transport Cafe is rumoured to be closing! Again!  :o  :(  >:(  :hand:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on April 28, 2016, 05:32:49 pm
At my current rate I am thinking about riding around with a spare frame.
At your current rate you will have one to ride around with  ;D

You can't have too many spare parts OD!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on April 28, 2016, 07:35:38 pm
Never mind ACME Norton Heath Transport Cafe is rumoured to be closing! Again!  :o  :(  >:(  :hand:
Oh no, always seems busy when I pass it...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 01, 2016, 10:03:36 am
Audax Club Mid-Essex had its inaugural ride yesterday at the Green and Yellow fields.

With various members having ridden the helpers' ride and a last minute turbo-induced injury for Jiber, it was a slightly smaller ACME peloton than usual which set off into the night from Manningtree.  Incidentally, we have no further information at this time on the rumour that Jiber has approached the validation secretary about validating AUK's first indoor SR.  :o

The usual ACME B squad stalwarts of the Hustler, Bobb, Huggy and me were joined by A squad hard man Tippers_Kiwi and his supply of Colombian energy bars - "first one is free".  We started slightly late due to Huggy's organising responsibilities but with Tippers' iron discipline we were soon flying along in close formation.  We even managed to overtake some people this time.

The ride over to Barton Mills usually benefits from a tailwind but even without that luxury we were there in good time.  The new McDonald's really transforms the ride.  By lurking in there for an hour and more we emerged into a night that was now cold enough to take your breath away (-5 on Huggy's Garmin) but with the first signs of dawn showing in the sky.  Even the A1065 didn't seem so bad as the sun rose and the morning mist cleared off the fields.  The ride after the turn off for Castle Acre down to Burnham Deepdale was stunning in bright sunshine.  Tippers allowed us a leisurely breakfast at the Deepdale Cafe before heading off on the homeward leg.  In my limited experience of this ride the Burnham to Wymondham leg is the hardest by far; your body realises you really aren't sleeping any time soon and it seems to be a never ending series of long false flat ramps into a headwind.  With the heavy rain last year this was nearly the end of my first SR attempt at only the second hurdle. How thoughtful then of Tomsk to arrange for bright sunshine and a tailwind this year.  At times it was almost fun  :P

By the time we had left the continental style outdoor seating area in the Waitrose car park at Wymondam there we're dark clouds gathering and the temperature was starting to drop as the wind strengthened.  No such worries for the ACME peloton though.  Somehow we managed not only to stay dry but also to ride in sunshine the whole way home.

The leg to Needham Market probably ended up being the toughest.  We had all been dragged along by huge turns at the front from Tippers and the in form Bobb and you have to pay the price at some point in the ride.  I had just come up with the novel solution of riding at the front to slow the pace down a bit for a while when the Hustler popped up and apparently decided now was a good time to run his time trial training session.  Never was an ice lolly more savoured than the one consumed while sprawled in the co-op car park in Needham Market.  I did get my revenge though by diverting away from the Hustler's favourite section just after Stowmarket to take the crappy cycle path alongside the dual carriageway.   When not sticking it to "the Man" the Hustler is normally a fairly calm character but I don't think I will be forgiven for this for a while.  He was still droning on about it at Arrive.

So, a successful first official event for ACME and my bike didn't fall apart this time much to the evident disappointment of my fellow club members who had been running a sweepstake on how long my newly built up frame would last before something fell off.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 01, 2016, 10:16:24 am
Sounds like you almost had a nice time which is probably as good as it ever gets!  Bet you lot can't wait for the BCM!
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 01, 2016, 04:55:02 pm
Great report, I am planning on testing the knee out tomorrow with Captain Slow towards High Easter for a cuppa and maybe something to eat... I might return via 3 Elms to check it is still there....  been easing myself back in to action by walking round pubs in Chelmsford, after a hard day reminiscing about North Yorkshire watching the TdY, another training session is on the cards tonight... as long as I don't have to walk up stairs it seems OK at the moment...
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on May 02, 2016, 05:54:20 pm
I have been playing with the kit designer tools on the Owayo website. There will have to be an ACME Jersey thread when I've got something worth showing.

[Incidentally there are shed-loads of club kit companies. I haven't been that impressed with the new AUK kit by Force GB I've seen, or that of Essex CTC from Gear Club, but I'm happy to take recommendations. Owayo is at least familiar through the yacf jerseys and their website kit designer seems easy to use - by this luddite, anyway...]
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 02, 2016, 08:13:02 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 02, 2016, 08:53:26 pm
Vc oyster have just switched to Schils who use Dolcini.  Seemed nice when tried on. actual top should arrive this week.

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Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 02, 2016, 09:00:34 pm
Whatever the design, I think it needs an anvil :)
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 02, 2016, 10:05:53 pm
Whatever the design, I think it needs an anvil :)

I agree! :D

In other news, knee seems better, bottom bracket knackered through... 4000 miles, new one ordered from wiggle... how does a £13 BB cost me £70 lol....
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 03, 2016, 08:05:57 am
On the MEWLS thread there is a ploy afoot to ride the Boudicca 200 next Monday as a pre-BCM jaunt.

All are welcome.

Tomsk, what is the best way of obtaining the brevets ?  I
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 08:29:09 am
Whatever the design, I think it needs an anvil :)

Perhaps I'm being dim but whats the significance of an anvil?

And also, is the jersey going to be exclusively ACME or is the MEMWNS going to get a mention too?  I appreciate there is only son much you can get on a jersey.
Title: Re: MEMWNS Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 03, 2016, 08:40:16 am
Whatever the design, I think it needs an anvil :)
Perhaps I'm being dim but whats the significance of an anvil?
Yes  ;)
(http://missedprints.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/acme-anvil-print.jpg) (http://www.teevault.com/vault/img/tees/img/n12/acme_anvil_corporation_funny_t_shirt.jpg)
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0207/4676/files/acme-corporation-poster-by-bob-loukotka-01_medium.jpg?2939) (http://rlv.zcache.com/acme_anvil_tees-rdf1cc8fd06484387a5e384a1969ea64c_f0yqp_1024.jpg)
(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51uZA5TeRRL._AC_UL320_SR230,320_.jpg)


There are lots of print panels on a jersey, like sleeves, not just the main front and back areas.  I'm sure MEMWNS will feature prominently  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 03, 2016, 09:12:32 am
It's going to get busy, but can we get RR on there?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 09:18:04 am
Oh I see. But what have anvils got to do with us???  Or am I being pedantic?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 03, 2016, 09:27:49 am
Oh I see. But what have anvils got to do with us???  Or am I being pedantic?

Go and watch some Road-runner cartoons on YouTube...
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 03, 2016, 09:29:19 am
Oh I see. But what have anvils got to do with us???

I've lost count of the number of times I've been riding along and an anvil has fallen on my head. Has this never happened to you?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 03, 2016, 09:37:25 am
It usually happens to me when I am riding in the desert near overhanging cliffs.  Glad to know it's not just me.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 03, 2016, 09:41:34 am
Those cliffs are dangerous --- I keep riding into those fake painted-on tunnels  :facepalm:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 03, 2016, 10:07:37 am
The bit I really hate is when you think there is a road ahead but actually you end up suspended over a deep canyon.  You pedal hard for a few seconds in mid air and then you plummet into the ground.

OD just doesn't get out enough it seems.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 10:15:50 am
I love this, we've just got the FB group name sorted and now we're embroiled in another controversy  ;D

I don't like this anvil thing, it's got bugger all to do with yacf in mid-Essex - so there  :P

And, stoking the fires of controversy still further, I think the MEMWNS needs a mention on our jersey.  If it's exclusively ACME it infers that all we are about is audaxing which isn't the case, we're a broader church than that ... an no, we don't need pictures of churches either.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 03, 2016, 10:21:02 am
By using the name ACME, you're automatically associated with anvils!*

Maybe "MEMWNS" could be around the sleeves. A bit like the rainbow stripes on the jersey of a former world champion?

*I don't actually care if there is an anvil on the jersey or not  :P
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 10:25:59 am
By using the name ACME, you're automatically associated with anvils!*

I didn't make the association!  Perhaps as a kid I didn't watch as many cartoons as you lot - I was too busy indexing my back copies of Practical Boat Owner, I bet ted did that too and it's whats made us the men we are  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 03, 2016, 10:27:34 am
ACH have a stag on their kit.

If we are not having an anvil then we need an animal...

waits for deluge of suggestions.

For what it's worth,  I don't recall ever indexing OD's collection of Practical Boat Owner.  I would have been too busy reading the Hotspur.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 10:30:18 am
We don't need an animal!  It's not essential we ape(*)  ACH you know. 

(*) We don't need a monkey either.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 03, 2016, 10:46:06 am
I'm quite happy to let our artist in residence come up with an ACME design.

My own view is that is should look more "club jersey" and less "foska novelty item".  That said, I think the anvil wouldn't be the worst choice for an icon/device on the jersey - it evokes ACME quite well (at least to anyone who watched cartoons as a kid - the rest of us can patiently explain to OD and wowbagger).  For the "club jersey" reason,  I think it should be subtle... e.g. a silhouette, rather than a cartoon rendering, for example.

I think primarily it's an Audax Club Mid-Essex jersey, and so the ACME name should be prominent, and a set of three Essex Seaxes on a red panel/shield/bar would have to appear somewhere.

I do quite like bobb's MEMWNS round the sleeve idea.  MEMWNS being the origination of and ongoing social side to ACME.


Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 10:52:01 am
My view ...

- Yes to the club jersey feel
- Still don't like the anvil thing
- We definitely need three Essex seaxes
- MEMWNS around the sleeve perhaps with the yacf logo would work well
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 03, 2016, 11:03:17 am
We are all in danger of forgetting the first (and indeed only) rule of ACME - "what OD says goes".
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 11:14:18 am
We are all in danger of forgetting the first (and indeed only) rule of ACME - "what OD says goes".

I'm not trying to impose a view here.  I merely want to ensure a balance is maintained.  Yes, as a collective a lot of audaxing goes on which is no bad thing.  But, the glue that holds us all together is hooning around mid-Essex on a Wednesday evening.  The MEMWNS is the egg from which ACME and everything else hatched.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 03, 2016, 11:16:47 am
but the use of "ACME" appeals to our juvenile sense of humour  :thumbsup:

Anyway, I already have a MEMWNS branded jersey, where is yours ?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 11:20:13 am
but the use of "ACME" appeals to our juvenile sense of humour  :thumbsup:

I have no problem with ACME!

Anyway, I already have a MEMWNS branded jersey, where is yours ?

Poser  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on May 03, 2016, 11:37:59 am
I'm with Oaky in that I am pretty sure Tomsk will deliver something with class that gets the message across!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 03, 2016, 11:38:37 am
By using the name ACME, you're automatically associated with anvils!*

I didn't make the association!  Perhaps as a kid I didn't watch as many cartoons as you lot - I was too busy indexing my back copies of Practical Boat Owner, I bet ted did that too and it's whats made us the men we are  :thumbsup:
TBH, I don't make the automatic association of ACME and anvils, anvils are just one of the many useful things that the ACME Corporation make (and deliver to Wile E. Coyote)

(http://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/daily/vulture/2012/12/03/03_acme.w1200.h630.jpg)

A RR image could be equally misappropriate but childishly fun to have on our cycling jersey  ::-)
(http://cdn.psfk.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Wile-E-Coyote-cover.jpg)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 03, 2016, 11:41:04 am
So, in addition to the anvil, we probably need a giant catapult and sticks of dynamite attached to a detonator.

That will all fit fine on Tippers' and Jibers' jerseys but what about the rest of us  :P
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 03, 2016, 11:45:44 am
We could have a split personality jersey of ACME on the front and MEMWNS on the back, or vice versa  O:-)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 03, 2016, 11:47:00 am
With MEWLS and MEWBS on the sleeves ?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 12:11:14 pm
In case you're thinking I have a complete downer on audaxing this has turned up in the post, just as the memories were beginning to dim  ;D  ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/FullSizeRender_zpslvqyx9l3.jpg)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 03, 2016, 12:27:06 pm
You see, that's why we need a logo, it will look good on the winter brevet series cards  :thumbsup:

Well done for the Shark by the way, you were missed on the G&YF.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 12:29:12 pm
Do they have many stags in Hackney?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 12:32:10 pm
The logo could be the Essex sword things.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 03, 2016, 12:33:43 pm
Or a dog   ;)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 03, 2016, 12:53:38 pm
For those that don't audax but will be TT'ing and road racing will there be a ACME race cut jersey and shorts? Shorts should really be included so as to look neat and tidy...! Castelli now make custom kit


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 03, 2016, 12:58:46 pm
I thought the oblique reference to dogging would raise a peep from you.

Doubtless once the manufacturer has charged the initial set up fee and minimum order charge they would be delighted to knock up a custom child sized TT outfit or something more specialised for your other hobbies.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 03, 2016, 01:03:38 pm
In case you're thinking I have a complete downer on audaxing this has turned up in the post, just as the memories were beginning to dim  ;D  ...

(http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/stevenr_01/Mobile%20Uploads/FullSizeRender_zpslvqyx9l3.jpg)


Nice one :)

So I assume you're up for the GMC in September?  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 03, 2016, 01:03:45 pm
Obviously skin suits or race cut jerseys could help you guys shave seconds off your audax times and increase the average KPM it's not all about me you know that's OD's bag!!


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 03, 2016, 01:06:42 pm
For those that don't audax but will be TT'ing and road racing will there be a ACME race cut jersey and shorts? Shorts should really be included so as to look neat and tidy...! Castelli now make custom kit


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Race cut == just order a size too small.

That might be a problem if you already wear XXXXS though.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 03, 2016, 01:07:51 pm
An ACME anvil would look pretty good on a Brevet card.

ETA: would make a good rubber stamp for controls too! :)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 03, 2016, 01:13:39 pm
For those that don't audax but will be TT'ing and road racing will there be a ACME race cut jersey and shorts? Shorts should really be included so as to look neat and tidy...! Castelli now make custom kit


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Race cut == just order a size too small.

That might be a problem if you already wear XXXXS though.

Disappointingly I take a medium in Castelli..... by Italian standards I'm not small
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 03, 2016, 02:20:21 pm
Just for you chaps myself and my colleagues will all be in matching kit tomorrow night so you can see just how good matching jerseys and shorts look


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 03, 2016, 02:38:58 pm
Just for you chaps myself and my colleagues will all be in matching kit tomorrow night so you can see just how good matching jerseys and shorts look


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But we thrive on anarchy and nonconformity
Talking of which, the new ACME jersey will have to be available in at least 6 different colour ways  :demon:  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 03, 2016, 02:46:37 pm
Just for you chaps myself and my colleagues will all be in matching kit tomorrow night so you can see just how good matching jerseys and shorts look

Does the term "Full kit wankers" also apply to cycling kit?  :P
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 03, 2016, 02:46:51 pm
Just for you chaps myself and my colleagues will all be in matching kit tomorrow night so you can see just how good matching jerseys and shorts look


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But we thrive on anarchy and nonconformity
Talking of which, the new ACME jersey will have to be available in at least 6 different colour ways  :demon:  ;D

If it doesn't include a luminous option you can rule Jibers out......! I would also say s/s jersey and shorts are imperative for our very own 'Iceman' Sir Squirrel Nutkin aka Gavin real name Giles
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 03, 2016, 02:48:02 pm
Just for you chaps myself and my colleagues will all be in matching kit tomorrow night so you can see just how good matching jerseys and shorts look

Does the term "Full kit wankers" also apply to cycling kit?  :P

I believe so Bobb feel free to throw that at my work colleagues tomorrow night now I realise what all the spectators are shouting at the pro's as they ride past
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 05:10:24 pm
Just for you chaps myself and my colleagues will all be in matching kit tomorrow night so you can see just how good matching jerseys and shorts look

You're going to introduce colleagues to us lot  :o  Is that wise?  Do they know what your yacf handle is?  Sounds dangerously career limiting to me!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 03, 2016, 05:12:28 pm
Just for you chaps myself and my colleagues will all be in matching kit tomorrow night so you can see just how good matching jerseys and shorts look

You're going to introduce colleagues to us lot  :o  Is that wise?  Do they know what your yacf handle is?  Sounds dangerously career limiting to me!

I have had to pre-warn them about MEMWNS particularly yourself and the Scotsman
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 05:14:45 pm
Just for you chaps myself and my colleagues will all be in matching kit tomorrow night so you can see just how good matching jerseys and shorts look

You're going to introduce colleagues to us lot  :o  Is that wise?  Do they know what your yacf handle is?  Sounds dangerously career limiting to me!

Errr, who was it who warned you about the wisdom of calling yourself Doggers Lane?  You are the architect of your  own demise little one  :-*

I have had to pre-warn them about MEMWNS particularly yourself and the Scotsman
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 03, 2016, 05:19:32 pm
As I have repeatedly mentioned on this thread I have no fascination with that particular area it seems quite a few others of this parish do however......


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Andy C33 on May 03, 2016, 06:59:54 pm
As I have repeatedly mentioned on this thread I have no fascination with that particular area it seems quite a few others of this parish do however......


DL doth protest too much, methinks
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 03, 2016, 07:01:02 pm
Exactly Andy C333333333!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 05, 2016, 08:58:12 am
Our track section took centre stage last night with another trip to the QE2 park to "smash it up" at the velodrome.

Huggy, our organiser, managed to ensure that Oaky, the Hustler, OD, Bobb, GavinSSN, DL and me made it there along with various actual Witham Cycling members.  DL, however, was really there with his workmates rather than his long forgotten MEMWNs club mates.

We were split into two groups again.  With all of us having been last time, this meant that we were joined in the experienced group by Huggy and the Hustler.  Of course, the Hustler was in his element talking himself down in between sessions and then hammering round when he got on the track.  He made a slight tactical error in showing his hand during the team pursuit exercise in our second session.  When he took to the front we soon ended up as two groups; the Hustler and the rest of us.  The coach even had to tell him to slow down.  Needless to say, when we did the last exercise which was based on two man sprints, the Hustler managed to win as chaser (easy, the chaser always wins) but also as the front man (eh ? how did that happen ? the chaser always wins).  Mind you, that was nothing compared to GavinSSN who gave his chaser a half lap start before noticing the sprint had started  :facepalm: but still nearly caught him.

Another fantastic session completed, we "did one" and scarpered back to the Ale House in Chelmsford for some much needed energy drinks.  In keeping with our strict training regime, OD, Oaky and GavinSSN sourced a large kebab each to eat in the pub.  They almost looked good enough to eat after a couple of pints.  I am afraid I let the side down by having a cheese and onion sandwich instead.  I may thank myself for doing that when I am chasing Bobb up some forlorn mountain in Wales next week.  A variety of ales were consumed including an interesting vanilla stout.  No one was brave enough to try the interestingly monikered "Black Jesus" at 6.5%.  Albert Ale by Earl Soham brewery took the Quaffers' Choice.

During the evening we became aware of a strange glow in the night sky.  Of course it was only the luminous Jiber hoving into view being towed along by Captain Slow.  The poor old Captain then had to endure a good hour of what we pass as banter and a long contentious debate about what should be on the ACME jerseys.  She must be really looking forward to the next time MEMWNs swings by Chelmsford.

Thank you to Huggy for another great velodrome evening and hopefully we can find another session later in the year.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 05, 2016, 04:54:19 pm
Well done huggy  :-*
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on May 12, 2016, 05:49:27 pm
Wednesday 11th May, Compasses, Littley Green:

Present: Tomsk, Huggy, the BFC, Tippers[sans velo], jiberjaber, Bobb, Oaky, AndyC33 and Carlosfandango. I think that's right - 9 of us, no? There were a few heavy-duty locks employed in the bike shed, after Oaky's unfortunate experience.

BCM preparation and worries dominated the conversation at least at my end of the table. Amusing anecdotes from the velodrome trip too.

ACME is a pipe-dream becoming a reality, it seems: ACH have a very informal structure - to join, you just need to have AUK membership for allocating points, anyone can join: use the website for various facilities like social events, ordering the jersey, list the randonees you're riding this year etc. Easy-peasy.

Paying for domain name and website seems to be the main cost - some of the Audax Organiser's income from entry fees could be directed there, maybe a supplement on the jerseys too? A sew-on badge with an ACME club logo could go on a variety of garments/saddlebags etc - I'll have a look at MBC [they do the AUK medals/badges and Flitch Bikes medals].

Can we have a [slightly] formal meeting to divvy up some of the tasks and make a few benevolent-dictator-style decisions? A Wednesday evening or whenever.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 12, 2016, 05:55:03 pm
Don't worry about web hosting - I can take care of that. Which reminds me, I must make a start on the site  :P
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 12, 2016, 08:40:36 pm
Huggy and I have been having a side discussion about money and insurance. £75 per annum is the magic number. Expect some thoughts to think about soon. And if you find a pound coin or two in your pocket put them on one side, we might have a home for them.

Oh, and by the way, huggy has a new title. He's been upgraded from "grown up" to "Treasurer".
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 13, 2016, 08:09:26 am
Oh, and by the way, huggy has a new title. He's been upgraded from "grown up" to "Treasurer".
:facepalm:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 13, 2016, 08:21:45 am
Money and insurance, grown up stuff - sorry ...

Our little trips to the velodrome are dependent on us as a "club" having insurance, plus each rider needs to have their own public liability insurance too.  Thus far the ride leader insurance that Witham Cycling has through being affiliated to the CTC (or Cycling UK as they are now) has dealt with the club side of things.  And, if riders have needed to get insurance they can do so for sub £20 per annum via WC's CUK affiliation.  This personal insurance is a good thing in general, all proper cyclists ought to have it.

The WC's affiliation has also had some other benefits.  Obviously it allows us to run formally led rides for WC; this might not be of much interest to the good people of yacf although some of you are here because you rode with WC originally.  WC's affiliation with CUK was also very useful in helping huggy set up himself up as the Witham AUK organiser, a development which has contributed to the formation of ACME.

In recent years GK's in Witham have paid the £60 annual insurance premium but times are a changing.  Firstly, the premium has gone up to £75 and needs paying in a few weeks.  Secondly, GK's have said they don't want to pay it anymore.  This is fair enough in my view, their support of WC hasn't led to much incremental business for them so I think it was good of them to support WC for as long as they did.

Me and huggy have been giving the matter much thought.  We have decided that it is worth continuing our affiliation with CUK, principally so we can carry on going to the velodrome.  Alternative sources of insurance have been considered but we still think CUK is the best option.  We also think it's no bad thing to have a "formal" club to fall back on and WC's links with CUK gives us that.  As I said huggy found this very useful when sorting himself out with AUK, who knows when it might be handy in the future?

Given we think being a club is a good idea we have also decided it might be worth the club having a small amount of cash, this would be mainly used to pay the annual insurance premium.  £75 needs to be found ASAP so huggy has nobly volunteered to cough up 75 of his own UK pounds - a rash move which sees him being promoted to our treasurer.

Clearly he's going to need paying back, your ideas will be most welcome.  We've already come up with a number of money making wheezes which are up for discussion: charging a bit more for future velodrome trips, adding a quid or two to the price of ACME jerseys, charging a little extra for future Witham audaxes including Tomsk's winter series, selling refreshments at the aforementioned audaxes, running some WC led rides and asking for a small donation from those who turn up.  Also, if you're reading this and have enjoyed the velodrome evenings we have run so far and fancy riding the boards again you might want to press a few coins into huggy's sticky hand when you next see him.  He's talking bank accounts and spreadsheets so rest assured he is taking his new role seriously - we'd expect nothing less!

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 13, 2016, 08:38:09 am
Seeing as Huggy has already splashed out 75 British Imperial Credits of The Realm, why don't we start a quick kitty to cover initial costs like this? A tenner each from the regular MEMWNSers should cover it?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 13, 2016, 08:40:12 am
Bob beat me too it! :)  :thumbsup:
Agreed!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 13, 2016, 08:44:54 am
Seems more than fair.  huggy will be passing amongst you very shortly with a hat. 

Just a small point, we are keen that monies paid should be regarded as voluntary and we are not for a moment suggesting that everyone has to pay subscriptions and those that can't or won't pay are not allowed in the "club".  If you want to cough up a tenner that would be lovely, if you wanna cough up less that's fine too.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 13, 2016, 09:00:36 am
I can appreciate that GK's no longer wish to be a sponsor for WC particularly for them as it has not returned much in the way of extra business.
How about the Compasses though? I'm sure Josh could find £75 and the majority of us visit regularly be it in a riding or otherwise capacity and although they have their own cycling jerseys their website or mention of them in some form on the ACME jerseys could be incorporated as free publicity. On top of that Huggy's first audaxes are including a final pause there which will provide extra pennies coming their way.
Plus it's the ACME 'unofficial' HQ


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 13, 2016, 09:04:09 am
Seems more than fair.  huggy will be passing amongst you very shortly with a hat. 

Just a small point, we are keen that monies paid should be regarded as voluntary and we are not for a moment suggesting that everyone has to pay subscriptions and those that can't or won't pay are not allowed in the "club".  If you want to cough up a tenner that would be lovely, if you wanna cough up less that's fine too.
or more of course  :demon:

Also on the monetary subject is the already committed to expenditure such as ACME domain fee (Oaky) and setup/subscription of web hosting (bobb), not to mention any upfront costs of the ACME jersey and small over stock for any future sales without needing to place another order of a multiple that makes it economical (Tomsk?).
May I suggest a members only access section on the ACME website with a 'boring' page for accounts to be periodically published?

I'm going back to my packing for BCM now...
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 13, 2016, 09:05:53 am
I can appreciate that GK's no longer wish to be a sponsor for WC particularly for them as it has not returned much in the way of extra business.
How about the Compasses though? I'm sure Josh could find £75 and the majority of us visit regularly be it in a riding or otherwise capacity and although they have their own cycling jerseys their website or mention of them in some form on the ACME jerseys could be incorporated as free publicity. On top of that Huggy's first audaxes are including a final pause there which will provide extra pennies coming their way.
Plus it's the ACME 'unofficial' HQ

Feel free to ask Joss DL!  You're now Global Director of Sponsorship and Affiliation Programmes.  Congratulations!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 13, 2016, 09:08:39 am
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I'm happy to approach him in ACME's behalf but he knows others of this parish better than my goodself.
Failing that if he isn't interested I will put my thinking cap on and see if I could find another local business that might be willing to stump up some sponsorship.
When I managed my brothers football team I got a fully sponsored team kit plus track suits via two separate local business sponsors!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 13, 2016, 09:09:41 am
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I'm happy to approach him in ACME's behalf but he knows others of this parish better than my goodself.
Failing that if he isn't interested I will put my thinking cap on and see if I could find another local business that might be willing to stump up some sponsorship.
When I managed my brothers football team I got a fully sponsored team kit plus track suits via two separate local business sponsors!

Crack on! 
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 13, 2016, 09:12:24 am
When I managed my brothers football team I got a fully sponsored team kit plus track suits via two separate local business sponsors!

Can we also get ACME shorts, socks, mitts, overshoes, gilets, jackets, caps, arm warmers, knee warmers etc so we can be full kit wankers?  :P
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 13, 2016, 09:12:41 am
At the risk of sounding even more boring than usual, we do need to decide what it is we want before we ask for anything.

We also need to start thinking about if there are any lines that need to be drawn between Witham Cycling, ACME, MEMWNS etc  These groups have plenty of crossover but potentially serve different constituencies.

Anyway, with most of the sensible people heading off to Wales, it can all wait until next week.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 13, 2016, 09:13:48 am
When I managed my brothers football team I got a fully sponsored team kit plus track suits via two separate local business sponsors!

Can we also get ACME shorts, socks, mitts, overshoes, gilets, jackets, caps, arm warmers, knee warmers etc so we can be full kit wankers?  :P

I will leave that with Jiber in his capacity as Gore rep for the mid Essex area! Or possibly Sister Carol he can use some of his model agency contacts surely....
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 13, 2016, 09:18:46 am
I'm not sure that there's much mileage in approaching Joss as the Compasses already have their Huffers & Puffers 'club'
He was also very happy to be a control for Essex R&R in August without any promise of additional trade, that advance generosity is appreciated and I wouldn't want to be seen as imposing more.  Just my opinion though.
We could equally approach Wetherspoons - we frequent their establishments almost more frequently than the Compasses  ::-)

...and what happens when we open our own ACME micro pub??!!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 13, 2016, 09:18:59 am
At the risk of sounding even more boring than usual, we do need to decide what it is we want before we ask for anything.

We also need to start thinking about if there are any lines that need to be drawn between Witham Cycling, ACME, MEMWNS etc  These groups have plenty of crossover but potentially serve different constituencies.

Anyway, with most of the sensible people heading off to Wales, it can all wait until next week.

I should say first up we need to work out what our costs across all the entities you mention are likely to be.  I think I will promote huggy from Treasurer to Global Finance Director and leave it to him to figure it out.

All the entities you mention are essentially the same thing given they serve largely the same people so I suggest we leave the lines blurred as it will be more fun and give us all something to argue about.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 13, 2016, 09:31:11 am


...and what happens when we open our own ACME micro pub??!!

And brewery  :thumbsup:

"Drink ACME beer"
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 13, 2016, 09:45:39 am
Paying for domain name and website seems to be the main cost - some of the Audax Organiser's income from entry fees could be directed there, maybe a supplement on the jerseys too? A sew-on badge with an ACME club logo could go on a variety of garments/saddlebags etc - I'll have a look at MBC [they do the AUK medals/badges and Flitch Bikes medals].

.org.uk domain names are fairly cheap - I hoovered two up the other day (audaxclubmidessex.org.uk and audaxclubmid-essex.org.uk) for not very much (about 7 quid each for a year, I think).

(I didn't bother hosting them anywhere yet, although I did point http://audaxclubmidessex.org.uk and http://www.audaxclubmidessex.org.uk to a cheesy holding page)

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 13, 2016, 09:55:33 am
Paying for domain name and website seems to be the main cost - some of the Audax Organiser's income from entry fees could be directed there, maybe a supplement on the jerseys too? A sew-on badge with an ACME club logo could go on a variety of garments/saddlebags etc - I'll have a look at MBC [they do the AUK medals/badges and Flitch Bikes medals].

.org.uk domain names are fairly cheap - I hoovered two up the other day (audaxclubmidessex.org.uk and audaxclubmid-essex.org.uk) for not very much (about 7 quid each for a year, I think).

(I didn't bother hosting them anywhere yet, although I did point http://audaxclubmidessex.org.uk and http://www.audaxclubmidessex.org.uk to a cheesy holding page)



I already have some hosting so once I've set up the site, we can just point the domains to that. It should be ok for the amount of traffic we're likely to get. I already pay for it anyway, so no costs there....
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 13, 2016, 09:59:30 am
When I managed my brothers football team I got a fully sponsored team kit plus track suits via two separate local business sponsors!

Can we also get ACME shorts, socks, mitts, overshoes, gilets, jackets, caps, arm warmers, knee warmers etc so we can be full kit wankers?  :P

Coffee Cup was missing from your list...
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 13, 2016, 10:05:03 am
Okay I have just been speaking to Blackmore (cycling apparel) about them sponsoring kit for us (full kit wankers here we come!) it is a potential that they may be able to offer discounted custom kit for us in return for them having some space on the jersey and shorts and a link to their site from the ACME site.
Similarly my uncles flooring co may well be willing to stump up the £75 in return for similar albeit on a smaller scale as they wouldn't be providing such a large contribution!
I'll get onto Winnebago now to see about getting a team bus sorted trainmanbri can be our driver as he has an HGV license


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 13, 2016, 10:05:46 am
If Doggers raises enough money we can upgrade huggy's van to a team bus!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 13, 2016, 10:34:44 am
Just about to go into a meeting with potential bike sponsors. If you don't ask you don't get right!?
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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 13, 2016, 10:40:27 am
Team bikes for the ACME peloton?  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 13, 2016, 10:42:57 am
We need a Death Star too.... also maybe Sky are selling off their Jags now they are with Ford....
Title: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 13, 2016, 10:55:51 am
Okay there's good and bad news..... Pinarello was a no apparently they said they already sponsor some Team Sky and Team Wiggins.....? (Never heard of them!!!!) So they couldn't really push the boat out for ACME sponsorship plus they weren't sure how comfortable their soot bikes would be for LEL!!
Never fear on the plus side I have at least got us a sponsored team bus (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160513/b9699e71cd534ff3a18ce9e2168fc49a.jpg)


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 13, 2016, 10:56:35 am
Do take note of those 'Essex boy racer' alloys, it's the minor details that count


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 13, 2016, 10:57:23 am
Oh and additional fog lights to help Sir Squirrel aka Gavin real name Giles see in the dark with his lack of lights.....


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 13, 2016, 11:27:09 am
Team bikes for the ACME peloton?  :thumbsup:

I think Genesis have that nearly sewn up already... 
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 13, 2016, 11:29:52 am
Team bikes for the ACME peloton?  :thumbsup:

I think Genesis have that nearly sewn up already...

You're all sheep, where's your originality?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 13, 2016, 11:45:31 am
Any volunteers to keep the team bus at theirs? Or is it best to go with the default and ask Ted to park it at his West Mersea small holding.


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 13, 2016, 11:52:15 am
I may have slightly oversold the extent of the Shred acreage  :P

If it was a matchbox model then I would have room.
Title: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 13, 2016, 12:14:37 pm
I may have slightly oversold the extent of the Shred acreage  :P

If it was a matchbox model then I would have room.
In fairness I would expect the Bedford rascal to take up less space than the horses
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 13, 2016, 12:27:30 pm
You're not kidding Doggers are you? You've actually bought the Rascal haven't you?  huggy, you might want to suspend Dogger's ACME corporate credit card, I think he's getting a bit carried away.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 13, 2016, 01:20:40 pm
You're not kidding Doggers are you? You've actually bought the Rascal haven't you?  huggy, you might want to suspend Dogger's ACME corporate credit card, I think he's getting a bit carried away.
It was 99p 'buy it now' and said it was in working condition! In your own words 'what could possibly go wrong!'
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: delthebike on May 13, 2016, 02:26:44 pm
It was 99p 'buy it now' and said it was in working condition! In your own words 'what could possibly go wrong!'
The scrap yard won't take it because of the asbestos in the walls?  ::-)  ;)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 13, 2016, 03:12:47 pm
Aside from the minor details of asbestos walls I'm a little worried that the new team bus can only carry 2 persons and quite probably not 5 bikes as per the team Volvo of tippers......


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 16, 2016, 07:00:44 pm
It's a bit quiet in here today, the heros of ACME must still be recovering from BCM.. chapeau!

I'm pondering a little excursion, it just so happens to be 300km from Chelmsford, to Chelmsford, around the M25.  I have a route based upon one I have stolen with pride (from Diesel in this thread (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=96446.0))... includes a ferry too... so potential DIY, just can't decide which month to do it in...  anyone else interested?

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/13771204

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 16, 2016, 07:06:03 pm
It's a bit quiet in here today, the heros of ACME must still be recovering from BCM.. chapeau!

I'm pondering a little excursion, it just so happens to be 300km from Chelmsford, to Chelmsford, around the M25.  I have a route based upon one I have stolen with pride (from Diesel in this thread (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=96446.0))... includes a ferry too... so potential DIY, just can't decide which month to do it in...  anyone else interested?

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/13771204

Me and huggy did a 400k DIY that went round the M25. No ferries just 4500m of climbing plus some other treats. Shall I share the route with you?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 16, 2016, 07:11:39 pm
I remember reading that on your blog I think...
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on May 17, 2016, 02:10:04 pm
once our final 'branding' is decided and our sponsors are all set up I might splash out on a set of magnetic signage for cars so that road trips like the BCM can be done in full ACME livery to go with the full kit look  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 17, 2016, 02:16:20 pm
once our final 'branding' is decided and our sponsors are all set up I might splash out on a set of magnetic signage for cars so that road trips like the BCM can be done in full ACME livery to go with the full kit look  ;D

Could you also get some made up for the new Bedford Rascal team bus please
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 17, 2016, 02:47:15 pm
once our final 'branding' is decided and our sponsors are all set up I might splash out on a set of magnetic signage for cars so that road trips like the BCM can be done in full ACME livery to go with the full kit look  ;D

Could you also get some made up for the new Bedford Rascal team bus please
Magnets don't stick to plastic and rust  :D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 17, 2016, 02:49:50 pm
once our final 'branding' is decided and our sponsors are all set up I might splash out on a set of magnetic signage for cars so that road trips like the BCM can be done in full ACME livery to go with the full kit look  ;D

Could you also get some made up for the new Bedford Rascal team bus please
Magnets don't stick to plastic and rust  :D

That's why I thought it best to use permanent marker to write our names on the back door very a la Team Sky
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 17, 2016, 02:53:33 pm
A little announcement about possibly the first (?) official ACME events on 6th August, the 100k and 200k audax are locked and loaded on AUK.  Time to start a new thread on the Audax page soon  :thumbsup:
100k A little Essex R&R (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/16-296/)
 200k Essex R&R (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/16-298/)

A slow & steady flow of entries for both have started to trickle in  :)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 17, 2016, 03:03:30 pm
A little announcement about possibly the first (?) official ACME events on 6th August, the 100k and 200k audax are locked and loaded on AUK.  Time to start a new thread on the Audax page soon  :thumbsup:
100k A little Essex R&R (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/16-296/)
 200k Essex R&R (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/16-298/)

A slow & steady flow of entries for both have started to trickle in  :)
a first outing for the ACME rascal! With me driving it will be like the Sooty & Sweep show with OD & Ted on board
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 17, 2016, 03:12:53 pm

That's why I thought it best to use permanent marker to write our names on the back door very a la Team Sky

I thought you normally used a crayon for writing your name ?

With me driving it will be like the Sooty & Sweep show with OD & Ted on board

Thanks Sue.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 17, 2016, 03:17:44 pm

That's why I thought it best to use permanent marker to write our names on the back door very a la Team Sky

I thought you normally used a crayon for writing your name ?

With me driving it will be like the Sooty & Sweep show with OD & Ted on board

Thanks Sue.

I think crayon would wash off, permanent marker will be better!

No Matthew drives the van that's me, Sister Carol can be Sue or maybe SSN aka Gavin real name Giles under another guise seeing has he has a few........
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 17, 2016, 03:40:34 pm
Matthew retired in 1998 so that would fit well with your current commitment to ACME.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 17, 2016, 03:45:27 pm
Matthew retired in 1998 so that would fit well with your current commitment to ACME.

You will have probably noticed by now that myself and Kirky aren't audaxers we are the racing arm of ACME!
Kirky's slightly on his game more than me and will now be aiming to achieve an average of 21mph on future rides in order to gain himself some more trophies for the cabinet!!!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 17, 2016, 03:53:51 pm
You will have probably noticed by now that myself and Kirky aren't audaxers we are the racing arm of ACME!
Kirky's slightly on his game more than me and will now be aiming to achieve an average of 21mph on future rides in order to gain himself some more trophies for the cabinet!!!
So, you in fact have no business here and should go form CME for you two instead  :P   ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 17, 2016, 04:35:24 pm
We do also see Kirky at outdoor meetings of ACME, on a Wednesday evening and on his bike.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on May 17, 2016, 04:56:53 pm
Doggers, can we arrange to meet the Blackmore people to talk about kit n'stuff? I very much like the idea of having a local outfit doing the jerseys etc, especially as they already do North Hill shorts.

Re: racing, I see Audax Club Hackney are registered with Cycling Time Trials...
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 17, 2016, 05:04:54 pm
Lots of plus's there Tom - good idea... plus we can get to know their sizing by trying their tops on... win win...  :thumbsup:

Yellow Jersey Cycles use them as outfitters of their shop shirts too...

The Fridays (of FNRttC) presently have a ForceGB shop but a minimum initial order was required to secure that.

http://www.forcegb.com/fridays.html

Perhaps we could invite Blackmore out on a Wednesday night local to them?

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 17, 2016, 05:22:00 pm
Doggers, can we arrange to meet the Blackmore people to talk about kit n'stuff? I very much like the idea of having a local outfit doing the jerseys etc, especially as they already do North Hill shorts.

Re: racing, I see Audax Club Hackney are registered with Cycling Time Trials...

They were very accommodating Tomsk, sadly they weren't interested in sponsoring us as they only generally sponsor 'competing' riders (their words) here is a link to their size guide on the website: http://www.rideblackmore.com/pages/mens-sizing-guide

I will try and find the priceless they sent me but it seemed very reasonable to me
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 17, 2016, 06:01:03 pm
Doggers, can we arrange to meet the Blackmore people to talk about kit n'stuff? I very much like the idea of having a local outfit doing the jerseys etc, especially as they already do North Hill shorts.

Re: racing, I see Audax Club Hackney are registered with Cycling Time Trials...

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Here's their price list hope it works if not I can email it to you
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 17, 2016, 06:15:34 pm
Skin suits!!!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 17, 2016, 06:17:57 pm
Skin suits!!!

Especially for Ted now he has his Emonda!!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 17, 2016, 06:21:30 pm
Skin suits!!!

Especially for Ted now he has his Emonda!!

How stretchy are they?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: delthebike on May 17, 2016, 06:25:59 pm
Skin suits!!!

Especially for Ted now he has his Emonda!!

How stretchy are they?
Not enough to stretch to your imaginings!  :hand:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 17, 2016, 06:52:41 pm
Skin suits!!!

Especially for Ted now he has his Emonda!!

How stretchy are they?

What are you insinuating about Ted?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on May 18, 2016, 02:27:19 pm
It's official: my AUK club points now going to ACME  :thumbsup:

Other good news, Stuart Carmichael is re-opening Flitchbikes in a shop in North Street, Dunmow [next to the Doctor's Pond]  :thumbsup: Much smaller, was a children's clothing shop, but has a small car park behind; on-street parking by the pond too.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 18, 2016, 02:39:52 pm
It's official: my AUK club points now going to ACME  :thumbsup:

Excellent!  I have just changed mine over!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 18, 2016, 02:45:58 pm
It's official: my AUK club points now going to ACME  :thumbsup:

Excellent!  I have just changed mine over!

Me too  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on May 18, 2016, 02:51:46 pm
Woohooo.....me as well...
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 18, 2016, 03:02:37 pm
Ditto  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 18, 2016, 03:08:03 pm
hurrah  :thumbsup:

Now I'm not in a club of one  :P

With Bobb, Tomsk and Tippers' points we will be up there on the leaderboard - though a long way behind ACB, VC167, ACH etc.

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on May 18, 2016, 03:12:47 pm
hurrah  :thumbsup:
With Bobb, Tomsk and Tippers' points we will be up there on the leaderboard - though a long way behind ACB, VC167, ACH etc.

Start recruiting mercenaries from the non-Essex world, those clubs have members from all over the place  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: TimC on May 18, 2016, 03:17:04 pm
I may be mercenary (and moving further into the depths of Suffolk soon), and my measly couple of BPs a year mayn't be the kind of contribution that elicits large transfer fees, but I may shift my allegiance simply so that I can wear jersey #47 with a moderately clear conscience. You see, it more or less matches my Boardman SLS!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 18, 2016, 03:19:17 pm

Start recruiting mercenaries from the non-Essex world, those clubs have members from all over the place  ;D

As we visit a yacht club, I am sure it would be legal to use impressment.

OD can distract them while Tippers does the necessary.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 18, 2016, 03:21:31 pm
The kings shilling is alive and well in Mersea I see :D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on May 18, 2016, 03:22:34 pm
Me too!

The straggler has a shed load of points, how can we poach him from Sudbury?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 18, 2016, 03:27:55 pm
See above  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on May 18, 2016, 03:28:34 pm
CC Sudbury are a proper Audaxing club with points-chasing ambitions in the past. The Straggler has an aim to beat a certain Mann in that club... :D

Maybe a few nearer to home, in the Chelmer or Essex Roads could be poached? We must work on those in a vulnerable post-audax state after the events.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 18, 2016, 03:30:01 pm
I like your thinking, catch people when they are vulnerable.

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on May 18, 2016, 03:31:37 pm
CC Sudbury are a proper Audaxing club with points-chasing ambitions in the past. The Straggler has an aim to beat a certain Mann in that club... :D


We could nab them both
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 18, 2016, 03:56:54 pm
Also just changed  :)

How does one change ACP club which appears as "Locked"?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 18, 2016, 04:02:36 pm
I think it reopens and then locks again at the end of 2018.

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: TimC on May 18, 2016, 04:13:26 pm
CC Sudbury are a proper Audaxing club with points-chasing ambitions in the past. The Straggler has an aim to beat a certain Mann in that club... :D

Maybe a few nearer to home, in the Chelmer or Essex Roads could be poached? We must work on those in a vulnerable post-audax state after the events.

As a member of CCS, I'm sure they'd be glad to be rid of me.

Hmmm. Not selling myself to ACME very well, am I? Perhaps I'll just stick with the YACF virtual Audax community!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Christophe on May 18, 2016, 04:25:48 pm
I've changed allegiance to ACME.

You are welcome to the 4 points I have to date...... :smug:

(which may double this weekend!)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Jack on May 18, 2016, 05:03:26 pm
I've never had a club listed on AUK before. Shall I put down ACME?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 18, 2016, 05:12:14 pm
I've never had a club listed on AUK before. Shall I put down ACME?

Yes, yes you shall!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Jack on May 18, 2016, 05:41:15 pm
'Tis done!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 18, 2016, 07:16:37 pm
I have nailed my colours to the ACME mast too.  After The Shark I would imagine I can contribute some AAA points - or have I got this wrong?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on May 19, 2016, 09:20:18 am
And we are now showing on the Club Points list...
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 19, 2016, 09:41:40 am
It seems that there is no helping some people.

Huggy the Navigator set us up with a flat and short ride out to the King Billy at Braintree last night. Whilst Huggy, the Hustler and I availed ourselves of an easy-paced trundle to the pub, Sister Carol and Tomsk, for whom the ride had been designed as a recovery from their efforts on the BCM, had other ideas.  We came across Sister Carol just before we got to the pub.  He was "recovering" with an 80k ride in the rain.  Meanwhile, Tomsk was off being intrepid somewhere and putting up extra signage for his new 400.  He eventually appeared at the pub nearer 10pm than the usual 9pm having doubtless ridden round half the county on his way there. 

Our merry band was completed by Jiberjaber who had made his own way from Chelmsford.  For those who follow Jiber's fashion guidance, he was in his late spring collection last night; specifically, 12-14 degrees with the possibility of showers in Gore.

First time at the King Billy for me.  It's a gem of a pub and well named too.  We sampled Arbor Gold (brewed in the pub), Tring's Brock Bitter and Nethergate's Mary's Ruby Mild.  All of them were excellent but the Brock edged the Quaffers' Choice as the session beer of the bunch.  The landlady even supplied us with popcorn.  I say us but Tomsk inhaled the whole bowl before we had really noticed it arriving.  Apparently it had been salad that evening at Tomsk Towers and he was in need of a top up.  Fortunately, the Hustler and I managed to secure our own bowl for our table for two.

Talk was of the sterling efforts by the ACME peloton in Wales at the BCM, the ACME micro pub and various off topic nonsense.  Later in the evening Huggy decided that we should have one of his grown up discussions about the future of ACME.  He can explain the detail somewhere but basically it revolved around money, insurance and being responsible.  Look at what happens when our resident mischief maker is stuck in Cardiff or Reading or somewhere out West.

Not only is the King Billy a gem but the ride back to Witham is basically downhill. I am not sure I really had to pedal at any point.  I did have a bit of sympathy for Sister Carol as he set off into the rain for his lonely ride back to Colchester.  I would have given him a lift but it's more fun watching him suffer  :thumbsup:

Next week it looks like ACME is heading to the wild west...

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 19, 2016, 10:02:34 am
It seems that there is no helping some people.

Huggy the Navigator set us up with a flat and short ride out to the King Billy at Braintree last night. Whilst Huggy, the Hustler and I availed ourselves of an easy-paced trundle to the pub, Sister Carol and Tomsk, for whom the ride had been designed as a recovery from their efforts on the BCM, had other ideas.  We came across Sister Carol just before we got to the pub.  He was "recovering" with an 80k ride in the rain.  Meanwhile, Tomsk was off being intrepid somewhere and putting up extra signage for his new 400.  He eventually appeared at the pub nearer 10pm than the usual 9pm having doubtless ridden round half the county on his way there. 

Our merry band was completed by Jiberjaber who had made his own way from Chelmsford.  For those who follow Jiber's fashion guidance, he was in his late spring collection last night; specifically, 12-14 degrees with the possibility of showers in Gore.

First time at the King Billy for me.  It's a gem of a pub and well named too.  We sampled Arbor Gold (brewed in the pub), Tring's Brock Bitter and Nethergate's Mary's Ruby Mild.  All of them were excellent but the Brock edged the Quaffers' Choice as the session beer of the bunch.  The landlady even supplied us with popcorn.  I say us but Tomsk inhaled the whole bowl before we had really noticed it arriving.  Apparently it had been salad that evening at Tomsk Towers and he was in need of a top up.  Fortunately, the Hustler and I managed to secure our own bowl for our table for two.

Talk was of the sterling efforts by the ACME peloton in Wales at the BCM, the ACME micro pub and various off topic nonsense.  Later in the evening Huggy decided that we should have one of his grown up discussions about the future of ACME.  He can explain the detail somewhere but basically it revolved around money, insurance and being responsible.  Look at what happens when our resident mischief maker is stuck in Cardiff or Reading or somewhere out West.

Not only is the King Billy a gem but the ride back to Witham is basically downhill. I am not sure I really had to pedal at any point.  I did have a bit of sympathy for Sister Carol as he set off into the rain for his lonely ride back to Colchester.  I would have given him a lift but it's more fun watching him suffer  :thumbsup:

Next week it looks like ACME is heading to the wild west...

Gone are the days of a nice early ride report published circa 6am deary me
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 19, 2016, 10:03:50 am
Gone are the days when you join us on a Wednesday evening.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 19, 2016, 10:05:44 am
Gone are the days when you join us on a Wednesday evening.
I know good innit!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 19, 2016, 10:07:14 am
Well, at least you don't have to stand outside with a lemonade and a pack of crisps while the adults are in the pub.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 19, 2016, 10:08:22 am
Well, at least you don't have to stand outside with a lemonade and a pack of crisps while the adults are in the pub.
The added bonus of taking early retirement
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 19, 2016, 10:20:23 am
I was surprised by the downhill feel of my return journey too... maybe Braintree does have some hidden benefit after all!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 19, 2016, 12:22:22 pm
Next week it looks like ACME is heading to the wild west...

Really?  Reading?  Cardiff?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 19, 2016, 12:26:17 pm
Next week it looks like ACME is heading to the wild west...

Really?  Reading?  Cardiff?

Who knows, we put Tomsk in charge of navigation.  It could be a long ride  :facepalm:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 19, 2016, 12:51:50 pm
Next week it looks like ACME is heading to the wild west...

Really?  Reading?  Cardiff?

Who knows, we put Tomsk in charge of navigation.  It could be a long ride  :facepalm:

Is this to meet up with new friends?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 19, 2016, 12:54:31 pm
It was your idea to spread our wings across the county.

Hopefully it might encourage a few westerners to join in  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 19, 2016, 01:11:37 pm
It was your idea to spread our wings across the county.

Hopefully it might encourage a few westerners to join in  :thumbsup:

Excellent!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 19, 2016, 01:49:26 pm
I was doing a bit of a look see on Western options and noticed how poor in relation to the other CAMRA sites the SWE CAMRA site is, not a lot of info unless you're in Greys or Romford.  Is it really true that there isn't any good pubs west of Ingatestone / Norton Heath ???

(http://www.chelmsford.camra.org.uk/images/large/00/03/351.jpg)

I found this OK, might help in identifying Western pubs.... (though I would register I am perfectly happy with The Viper ;) )

https://whatpub.com/search?q=chipping+ongar&t=t&p=1&alt=&lat=51.7055&lng=0.245708&r=10&features=Pub%2COpen%2CRealAle%2CLocAle
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on May 19, 2016, 02:00:46 pm
Folks, I just ordered 2 tickets for the Spin London bike show at the Truman brewery starting tomorrow. http://spinldn.com/ (http://spinldn.com/)

Seems you can get free tickets for tomorrow between 13:30 and 20:00 of which I got 2.

Anyone about the City that fancies an hour or 2 there tomorrow after work?

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Redlight on May 19, 2016, 02:32:56 pm
I think you might have got in under some wire as they are coming up at £13 a shot now
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jsabine on May 19, 2016, 02:53:54 pm
A moment with Google should find a code for free tickets, although TK's link doesn't.

I've got mine anyway ...
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 19, 2016, 06:09:49 pm
WARNING:  A boring grown up post

Referencing recent heads-up posts regarding finances and Cycling UK membership for the main purpose of ride leader insurance, please refresh knowledge so far shared and scroll down...
Money and insurance, grown up stuff - sorry ...

Our little trips to the velodrome are dependent on us as a "club" having insurance, plus each rider needs to have their own public liability insurance too.  Thus far the ride leader insurance that Witham Cycling has through being affiliated to the CTC (or Cycling UK as they are now) has dealt with the club side of things.  And, if riders have needed to get insurance they can do so for sub £20 £24 per annum via WC's CUK affiliation.  This personal insurance is a good thing in general, all proper cyclists ought to have it.

The WC's affiliation has also had some other benefits.  Obviously it allows us to run formally led rides for WC; this might not be of much interest to the good people of yacf although some of you are here because you rode with WC originally.  WC's affiliation with CUK was also very useful in helping huggy set up himself up as the Witham AUK organiser, a development which has contributed to the formation of ACME.

In recent years GK's in Witham have paid the £60 annual insurance premium but times are a changing.  Firstly, the premium has gone up to £75 and needs paying in a few weeks.  Secondly, GK's have said they don't want to pay it anymore.  This is fair enough in my view, their support of WC hasn't led to much incremental business for them so I think it was good of them to support WC for as long as they did.

Me and huggy have been giving the matter much thought.  We have decided that it is worth continuing our affiliation with CUK, principally so we can carry on going to the velodrome.  Alternative sources of insurance have been considered but we still think CUK is the best option.  We also think it's no bad thing to have a "formal" club to fall back on and WC's links with CUK gives us that.  As I said huggy found this very useful when sorting himself out with AUK, who knows when it might be handy in the future?

Given we think being a club is a good idea we have also decided it might be worth the club having a small amount of cash, this would be mainly used to pay the annual insurance premium.  £75 needs to be found ASAP so huggy has nobly volunteered to cough up 75 of his own UK pounds - a rash move which sees him being promoted to our treasurer.

Clearly he's going to need paying back, your ideas will be most welcome.  We've already come up with a number of money making wheezes which are up for discussion: charging a bit more for future velodrome trips, adding a quid or two to the price of ACME jerseys, charging a little extra for future Witham audaxes including Tomsk's winter series, selling refreshments at the aforementioned audaxes, running some WC led rides and asking for a small donation from those who turn up.  Also, if you're reading this and have enjoyed the velodrome evenings we have run so far and fancy riding the boards again you might want to press a few coins into huggy's sticky hand when you next see him.  He's talking bank accounts and spreadsheets so rest assured he is taking his new role seriously - we'd expect nothing less!

Later in the evening Huggy decided that we should have one of his grown up discussions about the future of ACME.  He can explain the detail somewhere but basically it revolved around money, insurance and being responsible.

At the ad hoc ACME committee meeting in the King Billy yesterday evening certain fund raising and float creation ideas were discussed.  One that met with general approval to present here is for a voluntary contribution be paid by the active members of our gatherings for our own benefit of the CUK insurance and all that allows us to do with some peace of mind.  It is stressed that any money parted with in to the ACME start up fund is entirely voluntary and in no way compulsory, donations will remain anonymous (except to me of course).
Our most immediate expenditure is the CUK ride leader membership which certainly allows us trips to the Velodrome and such.  As stated this is £75 for the next 12 months.  Some or all of this may be able to recouped via subsidy on Velodrome fees or ACME Audax event entry fees but there is no doubt that covering it sooner rather than later is preferable and any excess accrued throughout the year can go towards next year's premium.

So, that said, if you feel moved to make a donation to help the ACME funds get to ground level and maybe a little above then here are a few handy links that will help you:
I would like to donate £1 (https://www.paypal.me/GrantHuggins/1)
I would like to donate £2 (https://www.paypal.me/GrantHuggins/2)
I would like to donate £5 (https://www.paypal.me/GrantHuggins/5)
I would like to donate £10 (https://www.paypal.me/GrantHuggins/10)
I would like to donate another amount that I will enter (https://www.paypal.me/GrantHuggins)

Your volunteered treasurer Global CFO,
huggy
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on May 20, 2016, 08:34:19 am
Ted, are you riding the VC Oyster Sportive on Sunday?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 20, 2016, 08:37:20 am
No. I am at the Young Farmers Show.

Might be helping out later on.

Familiar roads and reasonable numbers so worth a go.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 20, 2016, 08:40:44 am
No. I am at the Young Farmers Show.

Might be helping out later on.

Familiar roads and reasonable numbers so worth a go.

I take it you're entered into the scarecrow competition!!! I'm sure you have a great chance of winning - good luck
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on May 20, 2016, 09:52:10 am
No. I am at the Young Farmers Show.

Might be helping out later on.

Familiar roads and reasonable numbers so worth a go.
Tiptree Velo are going so I might join the fun depending on being able to get a pass

The only question is......fixed or carbon...
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 20, 2016, 10:59:03 am
http://www.audax.org.uk/results/detail/2016/listclub/?Club=Audax+Club+Mid-Essex

137 points (114 point 6-rider total) :)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 20, 2016, 11:25:10 am

Tiptree Velo are going so I might join the fun depending on being able to get a pass

The only question is......fixed or carbon...

Fixed obviously.  Provided you overtake as many as possible for maximum annoyance.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 20, 2016, 11:33:59 am
http://www.audax.org.uk/results/detail/2016/listclub/?Club=Audax+Club+Mid-Essex

137 points (114 point 6-rider total) :)

It would appear me going up and down all those hills on The Shark hasn't enhanced my contribution  >:(  It's an outrage.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 20, 2016, 11:36:18 am
Subject to Home Office approval I'm thinking of riding my A Little Essex R&R 100k (https://ridewithgps.com/routes/13792056) route one day next weekend (28th/29th May) if anyone is interested in tagging along.  To be a proper route check for traffic & control options departure should be about 9am on the Saturday.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 20, 2016, 01:49:26 pm
I was going to do Stour, but I haven't entered, so might ride the 100 with you Grant... subject to ... etc..
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 21, 2016, 07:32:02 pm
29th might work for me. Subject to...

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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on May 22, 2016, 08:50:08 pm
Just a quick call for helpers on 'Kingdom of the East Saxons' 400km on 2/3 July. I don't really need that much help with the start, though perhaps anyone riding might consider making tea etc before the off at 11:00, but a couple of teams to break the night shift into two [20:00 to 01:00, then on to 05:00] would be good.

I already have offers from Team Brunner and tedshred, plus Agi and Robert, but a couple more would be ideal. You could sleep at the hall, before transferring to the Angel and Harp for breakfast [at 09:00] and maybe hang on for the last ones in just before 14:00, though running a pub control is hardly onerous [but great fun and very sociable!].

If anyone wanted to do a helpers ride, then weekends either side would be ok, though I can't ride the weekend before due to other commitments*. As I've checked the route recently in three stages, then that aspect has been covered already. Helpers could come here for a short kip and a feed between the two loops if required [*I'll be here on the Saturday night /Sunday morning for feeding etc!].
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on May 23, 2016, 08:01:13 pm
...In other news, I saw Stuart Carmichael at the new Flitch Bikes shop today - due to open in the near future. Sign painter coming this week and lots of details to sort out. There's car parking on-street by the Doctors Pond and a couple of dedicated spaces at the back of the shop. Way back when, the shop was Whybrow's sweet shop and general store - I used to get the school bus from right next door.

Web address is now:  www.flitchbikesltd.co.uk

New phone number: 07940 328342

Just in case anyone is interested, Stuart is selling a large [58cm] Scott cyclocross bike for a friend. Carbon frame and forks, Ultegra CX groupset, cantilever brakes, plus helmet and size 11 shoes [spd]. It's been on Ebay for £600 but is probably worth more than three times that. It'd make a great Audax bike - I was tempted...

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 24, 2016, 08:58:57 am
I may have just registered the audaxclubmidessex.org.uk and audaxclubmid-essex.org.uk domain names.

Good people of ACME, which domain are we going to use? As things are moving forward with the jerseys (and the website) we need to make a decision:

audaxclubmidessex.org.uk

or

audaxclubmid-essex.org.uk

?

Obvioulsy, we can make both point to the same place, but we need just one for our marketing purposes.....
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 24, 2016, 09:57:25 am
I cast my vote for audaxclubmidessex.org.uk

However, just doing a quick poke around available domains I found that we could have acme.bike  :demon:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on May 24, 2016, 10:42:38 am
audaxclubmidessex.org.uk

from me....
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 24, 2016, 11:20:15 am
I cast my vote for audaxclubmidessex.org.uk

However, just doing a quick poke around available domains I found that we could have acme.bike  :demon:

Yeah... I looked at that, but decided it was a bit pricey... if funds allow, we could esily make that the main domain though and have audaxclubmidessex.org.uk redirect there...
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: SirSquirrelNutkins on May 24, 2016, 11:26:42 am
No hyphen in the address - google will think it is dodgy.


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 24, 2016, 11:31:06 am
No hyphen in the address - google will think it is dodgy.

Not if the non-hyphenated version is registered to the same person.


I do like acme.bike  :thumbsup:

The problem is, we really need to decide and stick to it. It's easy enough to swap around various domains - not so easy to change them on a bunch of jerseys...

Edit: Do we even need it on the jerseys?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 24, 2016, 11:35:15 am
No hyphen in the address - google will think it is dodgy.

Not if the non-hyphenated version is registered to the same person.


I do like acme.bike  :thumbsup:

The problem is, we really need to decide and stick to it. It's easy enough to swap around various domains - not so easy to change them on a bunch of jerseys...

Edit: Do we even need it on the jerseys?

Probably not, thinking about it.  It's not hard for someone to google "Audax Club Mid-Essex" to find the address if they need to.  Probably easier than them trying to remember whether it was .org or .org.uk or whatever (although acme.bike is very nice and easy to remember, so if we bought that I'd lean towards putting it on there)...
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 24, 2016, 11:39:37 am
acme.bike registration and recurring annual renewal is $34.99 Name.com (https://www.name.com/domain/search-4-1/?keyword=acme.bike)
(about £25/year)
or £29.99 on freeparking.co.uk

eta: in addition to what Oaky has already laid out for the two domains registered

Also available on freeparking.co.uk for £7.49/year is acme.uk
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on May 24, 2016, 12:11:32 pm
Yeah, acme.bike is cool if that makes sense.

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: SirSquirrelNutkins on May 24, 2016, 12:12:51 pm
Namecheap are a good provider of domains. Just don't go near godaddy


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 24, 2016, 01:43:42 pm
acme.bike registration and recurring annual renewal is $34.99 Name.com (https://www.name.com/domain/search-4-1/?keyword=acme.bike)
(about £25/year)
or £29.99 on freeparking.co.uk

eta: in addition to what Oaky has already laid out for the two domains registered

Also available on freeparking.co.uk for £7.49/year is acme.uk

I thought about that one too - you'll find you can ONLY get acme.uk IF you already own acme.co.uk (which is taken).
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 24, 2016, 01:45:30 pm
My opinion -- keep on with audaxclubmidessex.org.uk,  buy acme.bike, make the long one redirect to the short one.  Ditch audaxclubmid-essex.org.uk once it expires.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 24, 2016, 02:03:19 pm
My opinion -- keep on with audaxclubmidessex.org.uk,  buy acme.bike, make the long one redirect to the short one.  Ditch audaxclubmid-essex.org.uk once it expires.
Agree, but if we do go ahead and buy acme.bike I think we should use that on jerseys and other promotional material.
When checking out Namecheap for registering acme.bike they only want £17.30/year.  I can't easily find any details about email or domain forwarding from their website though.  Forwarding is supported and 'free' (or at least included in the fee) with free parking.  I've not played with domain registration for quite a while so will defer to anyone with more recent experience than me for best service.
We do currently have sufficient funds to buy acme.bike, funds which would otherwise be used towards the design fee for the jersey.
Topic for the assembled quorum to discuss tomorrow evening  ::-)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 24, 2016, 02:18:10 pm
My opinion -- keep on with audaxclubmidessex.org.uk,  buy acme.bike, make the long one redirect to the short one.  Ditch audaxclubmid-essex.org.uk once it expires.
Agree, but if we do go ahead and buy acme.bike I think we should use that on jerseys and other promotional material.
When checking out Namecheap for registering acme.bike they only want £17.30/year.  I can't easily find any details about email or domain forwarding from their website though.  Forwarding is supported and 'free' (or at least included in the fee) with free parking.  I've not played with domain registration for quite a while so will defer to anyone with more recent experience than me for best service.
We do currently have sufficient funds to buy acme.bike, funds which would otherwise be used towards the design fee for the jersey.
Topic for the assembled quorum to discuss tomorrow evening  ::-)

£17.30 sounds pretty cheap for the .bike.  It was looking like £30 per year when I investigated it before.  (Is the £17.30 per year, or first year with it going up to £30 ish afterwards?).

Provided we own the domain,  it's easy for us to point the nameservers to wherever we can find hosting.  I still have one domain's worth of hosting in my own package I could use for it, or alternatively, bobb has hosting, and if that doesn't include DNS admin,  we can always push the DNS part over to AWS Route53 (which is where I'm currently administrating audaxclubmidessex.org.uk from).  Route53 is ~50 cents per month... $6 per year, so, about a pint in That London prices.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 24, 2016, 02:35:10 pm
.... we can always push the DNS part over to AWS Route53 (which is where I'm currently administrating audaxclubmidessex.org.uk from).  Route53 is ~50 cents per month... $6 per year, so, about a pint in That London prices.

I would go with that. We could also make use of some of Amazon's other services such as S3 for hosting all the assets and SES for transactional emails sent from the site etc. I wouldn't recommend hosting the entire site on AWS as it can be very expensive. I ran a site for testing purposes a while back and was pretty shocked when I got the bill after just one month - about $60! I have hosting with a spare slot for the domain and a spare database I can use. I'm wondering whether we should run the entire site under SSL. We may well be storing some personal information (although nothing particularly sensitive). I will have to upgrade (well sideways cost wise) if we're going to do that. My hosting is actually up for renewal next month, so I'll sort it then.

As I'm doing the website, it will be a .NET MVC application, so don't nobody go doing anything re hosting as I'll have very particular server requirements. I have enough problems with sys admins at work thinking they know what they're doing and fucking everything up!  :P
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 24, 2016, 02:54:27 pm
Namecheap's £17.30 looks to be a real price,  but I don't see an option on there to register for more than one year, so suspect that the renewal cost would be closer to the $30 everywhere else.  I found one other place (1and1, IIRC) that had it cheap, but they explicitly state "first year" with subsequent years at the ~£30.

I read a few reviews of Namecheap, and mostly they were not good... mainly the issues were around hosting though, and while I'm not sure how much they could get wrong on the domain registration front, I'd be twitchy about their renewals and/or transfer out perfromance.

(Unless anyone's used them and has had a good experience with it).
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 24, 2016, 03:35:35 pm
Isn't there ACME.cc available?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: SirSquirrelNutkins on May 24, 2016, 03:40:23 pm
I've got crossfitblackwater.com running under namecheap. The renewal wasn't a price hike. They've been pretty good so far. I used godaddy before but there was a 4h+ lag on any emails going to the site. Agree with route 53. I'm a .net coder these days for my sins.


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: SirSquirrelNutkins on May 24, 2016, 03:42:14 pm
On the ssl front it should be possible to use let's encrypt to get a free cert.


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 24, 2016, 03:43:17 pm
Is there a version of this thread available in English ?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 24, 2016, 03:51:58 pm
Is there a version of this thread available in English ?

You just keep concentrating on the legal side of things Ted until the BFC can explain the rest to us all


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on May 24, 2016, 05:20:15 pm
Is there a version of this thread available in English ?
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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 24, 2016, 05:22:38 pm
Is that Kiwinese ?

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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: delthebike on May 24, 2016, 05:40:03 pm
Is that Kiwinese ?
It's not regular, polite, Kiwinese, it's the vulgar.  :o
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on May 24, 2016, 05:46:06 pm
Believe me Del, that's quite polite  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: delthebike on May 24, 2016, 05:47:54 pm
Believe me Del, that's quite polite  ;D
Then we can welcome New Zealand into the 1960s at last!  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: psyclist on May 24, 2016, 05:49:23 pm
I thought about that one too - you'll find you can ONLY get acme.uk IF you already own acme.co.uk (which is taken).

I'll check that later, as I bought psyclist.uk without owning the .co.uk version.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 24, 2016, 06:01:28 pm
Is there a version of this thread available in English ?
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 :D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 24, 2016, 06:50:39 pm
Believe me Del, that's quite polite  ;D

By your standards perhaps.

We'll civilise you yet.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: psyclist on May 24, 2016, 07:18:51 pm
I thought about that one too - you'll find you can ONLY get acme.uk IF you already own acme.co.uk (which is taken).

I'll check that later, as I bought psyclist.uk without owning the .co.uk version.

In the pre-launch period there was a restriction on needing to own the .co.uk version, but there are no restrictions now in place. The following is on 123-reg.co.uk website:

"The .uk domain is available on a first come, first served basis. This applies to all such situations, with no exceptions."

My preference would be acme.uk - it as simple as it can be - .uk is the new black
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 24, 2016, 08:08:11 pm
Unsurprisingly, ac.me is taken  :P
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 24, 2016, 10:15:11 pm
Acme.uk sounds good... no .cc through?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 24, 2016, 10:19:20 pm
I thought about that one too - you'll find you can ONLY get acme.uk IF you already own acme.co.uk (which is taken).

I'll check that later, as I bought psyclist.uk without owning the .co.uk version.

In the pre-launch period there was a restriction on needing to own the .co.uk version, but there are no restrictions now in place. The following is on 123-reg.co.uk website:

"The .uk domain is available on a first come, first served basis. This applies to all such situations, with no exceptions."

My preference would be acme.uk - it as simple as it can be - .uk is the new black


(my bold) 

I'm guessing that only applies where the corresponding .co.uk isn't already registered.

123-reg.co.uk shows acme.uk as unavailable.

tsohost.co.uk shows acme.uk as available, but if you try to buy it you are confronted with a screen that says

"acme.uk
Great choice, but are you eligible?
acme.uk has been reserved and can only be
registered by the current owner of acme.co.uk

For the registration of acme.uk to be successful the contact name, email &
address you use must exactly match the owner contact details of acme.co.uk.

If you're not the owner of acme.co.uk please go back and search again."
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 24, 2016, 10:20:26 pm
Acme.uk sounds good... no .cc through?

re: acme.uk - see above.  acme.cc is taken.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 24, 2016, 10:38:22 pm
A bit more digging about .uk names finds that:-

"At 08:00hrs on 10 June 2014 we launched the new shorter, sharper domain name .uk into our UK domain family. If you are an existing customer and own a unique .co.uk, .org.uk, .me.uk, .net.uk, .plc.uk or .ltd.uk, a .uk domain name may already have been reserved especially for you until 10 June 2019."

So... since apparently acme.co.uk was already registered at that time, acme.uk is reserved for the owner of that domain until 10 June 2019 (put the date in the diary, folks!).

I guess psyclist.uk was available because psyclist.co.uk wasn't registered on 10th June 2014.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: psyclist on May 25, 2016, 04:35:55 am
A bit more digging about .uk names

You're right, I didn't quite do enough digging. Sorry about that.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 26, 2016, 07:11:12 am
Good grief!  :o
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 26, 2016, 07:41:50 am
Good grief!  :o

Now you can see the geek driven fun you've been missing  :o
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 26, 2016, 08:10:00 am
Tomsk's Wild Ride

OD may have taken credit for the actual route but last night's outing had Tomsk's fingerprints all over it.  80k on a school night with two pit stops, what midsummer madness is this.

It was an early start at Spa with OD, Huggy, Hotblack Desiato, the Hustler and GavinSSN setting off with me in hot pursuit as usual. We made good time to the Compasses where we found Tomsk and his evil grin sitting outside with Sister Carol. We were soon joined for the first time by Psyclist.  Any hopes that the larger than usual group might slow the pace a little were soon dashed, Psyclist only adding experience and speed to the mix.  We proceeded at a moderate pace on our ride over to what GavinSSN called Hatfield not Peveral.  Fortunately it was a great little route and a perfect evening to be awheel.

As we neared our destination OD was excited to see a number of scarecrows dressed up just like him. Somehow this seemed to vindicate his wardrobe rather than diminish it in his eyes.  When we rolled into HNP there was bunting everywhere.  I don't suppose Tomsk visits that often though.

We found second newcomer Bernster at the pub talking to fellow soloist Jiber Jaber. 

At the Cock we sampled Robinson's Beerdo, Butcombe Bitter and Woodforde Wherry.  The Butcombe narrowly took the Quaffer's Choice.  Talk was of audaxes to come, why so many audaxers work in IT and a grown up bit about something or other.

Needless to say the 10.30 curfew came and went and we set off for the long ride home after 11. This was definitely at the upper end of moderately paced with Hotblack and his featherweight Bianchi trying to rip our legs off for long stretches. In fairness he and Sister Carol did ride over 100 miles each yesterday but it didn't seem to affect their speed.

We arrived back at Spa on Thursday after what proved to be a very decent ride.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 26, 2016, 08:25:06 am
Good write up ted  :thumbsup:

I asked that you record some important details in your ride report but you missed a couple ...

No mention of the one eyed dog at The Cock that was less than friendly.

And you and I decided that Doggers was on probation given his woeful attendance record as of late. If he doesn't buck his ideas up there will be consequences. For example, we've never scientifically investigated how many pickled eggs a teenager can eat in one sitting  :demon:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 26, 2016, 08:46:09 am
Cool Hand Doggers ?

I also neglected to mention the lack of pickled eggs for Bernster and Psyclist, the pub being a bit posh for that sort of thing.  They must join us again for a proper induction.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on May 26, 2016, 08:50:10 am

And you and I decided that Doggers was on probation given his woeful attendance record as of late. If he doesn't buck his ideas up there will be consequences. For example, we've never scientifically investigated how many pickled eggs a teenager can eat in one sitting  :demon:

One small error that Ted forgot to inform you is that I'm an early MEMWNS retiree so you could be waiting a looooooonnnnggggg time to investigate the pickled egg scenario! Unless you pick up some younger recruits in the WC/MEMWNS joint ride next week



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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 26, 2016, 08:50:43 am
Sounds like a good 'un. Unfortunately I was just too damn tired to come out. A poor excuse I know  :'(
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 26, 2016, 09:56:08 am
One small error that Ted forgot to inform you is that I'm an early MEMWNS retiree s
Retiree?? We've never had one of those and there is no process for it.  Motion denied, there is no checking out of MEMWNS!!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 26, 2016, 09:57:35 am
One small error that Ted forgot to inform you is that I'm an early MEMWNS retiree s
Retiree?? We've never had one of those and there is no process for it.  Motion denied, there is no checking out of MEMWNS!!

"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!"
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 26, 2016, 10:09:22 am
One small error that Ted forgot to inform you is that I'm an early MEMWNS retiree s
Retiree?? We've never had one of those and there is no process for it.  Motion denied, there is no checking out of MEMWNS!!

"You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave!"

I want you all to sit down, assume the brace position as what I am about to tell you is truly shocking.  To be honest I don't know how we're going to deal with this, I'm an emotional wreck and have been so since learning these shocking facts ...

I have this straight from The Teenager's own lips (or their electronic version) ...

Doggers thinks he should retire from the MEMWNS cos on Tuesday evenings he wants to do TTs with MAD and on Thursday evenings he wants to ride with their chaingang.

I told you it was shocking  :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 26, 2016, 10:09:32 am
An excellent evening awheel  :thumbsup:

This...
...and a grown up bit about something or other.
was in fact a brief discussion followed by vote on acquiring the acme.bike domain
The proposal was immediately endorsed by psyclist and before anyone else had much chance to object it was carried unanimously.
A counter proposal was put forward for acme.cc and acme.cycle but these are respectively already registered and the TLD non-existent.

Therefore, the next question - who wants to register acme.bike on behalf of Audax Club Mid-Essex?
There are sufficient funds in the acme account to reimburse the registrant.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 26, 2016, 10:15:22 am
Doggers thinks he should retire from the MEMWNS cos on Tuesday evenings he wants to do TTs with MAD and on Thursday evenings he wants to ride with their chaingang.
Surely MEMWNS would count as extra training!
Let's just hope we're still here when DL comes to his senses and the prodigal splitter returns to the fold  ;)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 26, 2016, 10:19:46 am
Therefore, the next question - who wants to register acme.bike on behalf of Audax Club Mid-Essex?
There are sufficient funds in the acme account to reimburse the registrant.

Given that I'm holding the other domains, I may as well add acme.bike to the portfolio.  Might even chance namecheap!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 26, 2016, 04:37:19 pm
The other thing ted's report of last night failed to mention was 'fangango's rather natty shoes. Whilst I took the pi55 I did think they were very nice. If I needed another pair of bike shoes I'd certainly get a pair. 
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on May 26, 2016, 08:30:23 pm
When we rolled into HNP there was bunting everywhere.  I don't suppose Tomsk visits that often though.

The world smells of fresh paint, does it not... ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 26, 2016, 09:02:49 pm
^^^ That's funny  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 26, 2016, 11:07:24 pm
When we rolled into HNP there was bunting everywhere.  I don't suppose Tomsk visits that often though.

The world smells of fresh paint, does it not... ;D
Do you always need to bring scissors to get through the ribbon that is in the way ?

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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on May 27, 2016, 07:42:07 am
When we rolled into HNP there was bunting everywhere.  I don't suppose Tomsk visits that often though.

The world smells of fresh paint, does it not... ;D
Do you always need to bring scissors to get through the ribbon that is in the way ?

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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 27, 2016, 07:43:08 am
Ah. The rarefied world of audax royalty  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on May 27, 2016, 11:59:35 am
Therefore, the next question - who wants to register acme.bike on behalf of Audax Club Mid-Essex?
There are sufficient funds in the acme account to reimburse the registrant.

Given that I'm holding the other domains, I may as well add acme.bike to the portfolio.  Might even chance namecheap!

BTW - acme.bike has been acquired. It's currently just redirecting to audaxclubmidessex.org.uk, which in turn is just showing a crap "coming soon" page.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 27, 2016, 12:14:33 pm
BTW - acme.bike has been acquired. It's currently just redirecting to audaxclubmidessex.org.uk, which in turn is just showing a crap "coming soon" page.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 27, 2016, 12:31:46 pm
Excellent! I am currently in discussion with the hosting company I use to get a dedicated IP so we can use SSL... hopefully something will be sorted soon so we can get this moving....
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 27, 2016, 05:44:32 pm
I can report the 3 elms beer & cider  festival is on and good.... hopefully I'm ok to meet up with huggy in the morning lol....(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/dfc227e0b7c1c1d43a206f55aa5d4651.jpg)(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160527/232ca8164d60d63c3cede5390735b0f4.jpg)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on May 27, 2016, 07:54:13 pm
Phwoarrr, I fancy a Brazilian. ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 27, 2016, 08:03:56 pm
It was nice! Coffee & Vanilla!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on May 28, 2016, 03:59:16 pm
Subject to validation of my 150km DIY this morning, I have now completed the Grand Slam* under 'Tomsk Rules', [ie exact distances, no substitutions]: Dunmow, Trumpington, Red Lodge, Long Melford and back, nice ride, once it warmed up, fingers struggled to operate the ATM in Trumpington! ...A new set of medals coming soon to grace the 'trophy cabinet'  :thumbsup:

* Of course not a prestigious Essex Grand Slam until the Flatlands, had to rely on some Welsh Ride  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 28, 2016, 11:25:53 pm
Great ride out today accompanying Grant round his first test ride of the 100km R&R route.  Beer was partaken, new 'spoons in Maldon was worth a visit - good weather too! Managed to bag my second Essex plastic urinal as well  :thumbsup:

ETA: Plus a proper anvil in Danbury too :D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on May 29, 2016, 09:46:57 am
Good work fellow Acme devils :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 29, 2016, 06:25:10 pm
Paging Tom.....

I appear to have been a numpty date wise and missed the entry cut off for A&S.... oppps.... any way of sliding an entry in still?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on May 30, 2016, 10:10:11 am
No problem jiberjaber - bring me an entry form, SAE & cheque [or paypal to my email] - either on Wednesday evening or Saturday morning for an 'EOL' - you're not the only one, by the way!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 30, 2016, 10:39:18 am
No problem jiberjaber - bring me an entry form, SAE & cheque [or paypal to my email] - either on Wednesday evening or Saturday morning for an 'EOL' - you're not the only one, by the way!

Paypal funds sent  :thumbsup: :)

ETA: Entry form emailed over too (hope that works :) )
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 30, 2016, 12:46:47 pm
How many ACMErs are riding A&S? I've entered  :)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 30, 2016, 12:54:40 pm
I think GD and Andy are in also - I am hoping to ride with them to stop me killing myself in the first 100-200km!

Looking at trains, they need reservations and it's knocking on £22 return (they will only allow 2 singles, plus have to call to reserve bike spaces in both directions, only 6 bikes per train).
40 mins on the train plus 15 mins ride to the station.

NCP car park at station is £13 for 2 days and can be booked on Ringo app plus provides convenient sleeping location, 50 mins drive time for me.

Seems like I might be driving, I so much wanted to train it there for sake of safe passage on the return etc but they make it a lot harder than it should be!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 30, 2016, 01:44:23 pm
I've never bothered booking a train either to or from Manningtree. Just turned up, bought a ticket and chucked bike on. Has something changed recently that requires a booking?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 30, 2016, 01:55:43 pm
Looking at the options, they all said bike reservations required. 

I think its cause its the 07:34 intercity to Norwich, so slam doors etc..  07:12 Ipswich train shows reservations required too. ??
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on May 30, 2016, 05:14:04 pm
NCP car park at station is £13 for 2 days and can be booked on Ringo app plus provides convenient sleeping location, 50 mins drive time for me.

Seems like I might be driving, I so much wanted to train it there for sake of safe passage on the return etc but they make it a lot harder than it should be!
unless you want to park at the station there is no need to. I've parked in the industrial estates before near the Co-op, also on the causeway just behind the Mogul restaurant (not that there's a pre-ride curry on the A&S). Quiet for a nap before driving home too!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on May 30, 2016, 06:34:19 pm
I am not riding....I've had me fill of overnighters for a couple of months.

I parked at the station for the G&Y and I think it was only 3.50 or so, paid there at the machine by card. Agree with Huggy though, plenty of free parking just near the bottom of the hill around the industrial estates etc.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on May 30, 2016, 07:46:11 pm
I am riding. Parking at the station. Probably collecting the Hustler on the way.

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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Redlight on May 30, 2016, 09:38:21 pm
If you are parking at the station make sure your ticket is VERY visible.  I got a ticket last year because mine had slipped slightly down the dashboard and the time of parking wasn't visible.  The irony is that at the time it was issued, I was asleep in the back, having a post-ride snooze before driving home!

(Should add that I contested it, successfully)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on May 31, 2016, 08:17:48 am
I'm riding, the thought of an SR series keeping me going :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 31, 2016, 03:39:29 pm
OK ACMErs, web hosting costs:

Hosting: £0 (I aready pay for this)
Dedicated IP (for SSL): £24/year
SSL cert: £xx/year

We'll have to pay £24/year for the IP, the SSL cert will be additional. We could go down the various free SSL routes, but to be honest, it just looks a complete pain in the arse. Unless somebody else wants to sort that, I'd rather just buy one. I can get one for another £24/year.

So all in all, it will cost us £48/year.

Or we fuck SSL off completely and it will be £0.

What do we think?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 31, 2016, 05:02:36 pm
Do we need SSL ? Can we add it later ?  Free option as an early starter and if we need a more trusted SSL, pay for one then? 
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 31, 2016, 05:59:49 pm
Do we need SSL ? Can we add it later ?  Free option as an early starter and if we need a more trusted SSL, pay for one then? 

Well, we don't need it, so we could go without. However, it all depends on how we want to treat our members. There will be areas that require a login, where will be a registration process, we will be storing mildly confidential data. All of this will be sent unencrypted without SSL. Do we really want to do that? Do we not want to show our members that we respect their privacy? Do we not want to show the world what a professional bunch ACME are?  :P

So we don't need it and I would happily go without if people are happy with that....
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 31, 2016, 06:01:04 pm
Sounds like the free option to get us going and a paid for at a later date might be a good route then?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 31, 2016, 06:05:52 pm
I wouldn't know an SSL if it popped out of me Carradice wearing a traffic cone on its head but I do think we should be looking after folk's privacy.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 31, 2016, 06:18:48 pm
Sounds like the free option to get us going and a paid for at a later date might be a good route then?

It would never be totally free as we'd still need to stump up £24 for the dedicated IP. Another £24 gets us a cert too. Is it really worth trying to save what is effectively less than a round of drinks on an SSL cert?  :P
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on May 31, 2016, 06:35:21 pm
I vote we do the job properly. I'll let you clever sods decide what "properly" looks like.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 31, 2016, 07:11:04 pm
I was just thinking about the overall costs, which I haven't been keeping track of but numbers like +£75, +£50, +£30 plus what ever else to get us out of the blocks and some of them costs are annual.

Just hearing about what has to be a minimum coverage of entries to pay for a hall makes my question perhaps we should cut our cloth to suit until we have some cash coming in from else where....

eg: if it takes 70 entries to break even on hall rental for 2 events on one day, we are potentially looking like an additional 5 entries to cover the SSl etc...

I know we are planning more than 1 event over a year - but we are not there yet :) If we can do it for free until there are sufficient in the coffers, and move over to a paid for option when the need dictates (online shop?) then perhaps that might be the more cost effective way?



Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on May 31, 2016, 08:04:24 pm
Yeah, I'm vibed with that. The site isn't finished yet, so there's no rush....
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on May 31, 2016, 10:26:47 pm
Forward planning and wild thinking..... I've got leave to burn, finding gaps between this RRtY (some of us are pretending we are not doing) is a challenge but I feel the need to get some riding in, perhaps with a means to an end..... last year I did the Southern Coasts & Castles which was nice but sustrans quality route so a lot of COR...

I've got a long week trip to Germany planned in for September and was considering some French action in July but ferry issues have sunk that one (no space left on the one the group I was going to ride with left) which leaves a gap in the later weeks of July.  I haven't succumb to tents yet, so it would be the usual credit card approach to touring...

A couple of thoughts I've been thinking of are a ride to my parents from Essex to Teesside.... which opens up some options.... one of them (which I am not sure about at the moment) would be to use the LEL2017 route, but it feels a bit awkward as it might either remove the surprise (if I were going to do it)...   

Alternatively would be my usual approach to scour and steal with pride bits from other audax's en-route to to get me there.  I guess there's only so many routes to York!  I was also thinking about cramming in a 200km DIY en route potentially (first or second day perhaps) which might solve calendar issues...

Other alternatives could be out West somewhere, and potentially some circular route to get my to Guildford in August...

Happy to hear suggestions..... probably something around 500km / 300 miles or so ......
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 01, 2016, 06:11:37 am
Ride to California?  It would be about 400k.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on June 01, 2016, 08:21:31 am
Route 1 to Teeside? Via North York Moors & Rosedale Chimney  :o

A route further west would be better than a lot of Fenland though: Rutland, Leics, Notts, S Yorks etc.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on June 01, 2016, 08:37:51 am
If you wanted closer to 400 miles... Chelmsford->California->Boston->New York->Washington (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Chelmsford/California,+Norfolk,+UK/Boston/New+York,+Lincolnshire,+UK/Washington/@53.2953157,-2.1368915,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m32!4m31!1m5!1m1!1s0x47d892c32191ebe3:0xaed2af1e3fcaaaf0!2m2!1d0.4685497!2d51.7355868!1m5!1m1!1s0x47da076c9b854ebb:0x76a38a18f1d060ad!2m2!1d1.719599!2d52.673792!1m5!1m1!1s0x47d7c2c53856f733:0x8406d541f1a0910c!2m2!1d-0.026577!2d52.97894!1m5!1m1!1s0x4878733cdd575f91:0x69a8451d0e471241!2m2!1d-0.1378359!2d53.079011!1m5!1m1!1s0x487e64c8cbe0fc97:0xa8135c37990656ba!2m2!1d-1.517366!2d54.897432!3e1?hl=en).  (You'd have to ride back a bit to get to Teeside, though. :)

Comes down to 300 if you don't go to California.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 01, 2016, 08:50:37 am
If you wanted closer to 400 miles... Chelmsford->California->Boston->New York->Washington (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Chelmsford/California,+Norfolk,+UK/Boston/New+York,+Lincolnshire,+UK/Washington/@53.2953157,-2.1368915,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m32!4m31!1m5!1m1!1s0x47d892c32191ebe3:0xaed2af1e3fcaaaf0!2m2!1d0.4685497!2d51.7355868!1m5!1m1!1s0x47da076c9b854ebb:0x76a38a18f1d060ad!2m2!1d1.719599!2d52.673792!1m5!1m1!1s0x47d7c2c53856f733:0x8406d541f1a0910c!2m2!1d-0.026577!2d52.97894!1m5!1m1!1s0x4878733cdd575f91:0x69a8451d0e471241!2m2!1d-0.1378359!2d53.079011!1m5!1m1!1s0x487e64c8cbe0fc97:0xa8135c37990656ba!2m2!1d-1.517366!2d54.897432!3e1?hl=en).  (You'd have to ride back a bit to get to Teeside, though. :)

Comes down to 300 if you don't go to California.

I'd route to the east after NY so you can go over the Lincolnshire Wolds and past the Beaumont transmitter which is the highest man-made structure in the EU.  Then you can go over the Humber Bridge  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on June 01, 2016, 09:24:04 am
I fancy the Humber Bridge...   :thumbsup:

The TX has been shortened in recent years, so no longer the tallest, they lopped 20m or so off it in 2009
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on June 01, 2016, 09:36:41 am
If you wanted closer to 400 miles... Chelmsford->California->Boston->New York->Washington (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/dir/Chelmsford/California,+Norfolk,+UK/Boston/New+York,+Lincolnshire,+UK/Washington/@53.2953157,-2.1368915,7z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m32!4m31!1m5!1m1!1s0x47d892c32191ebe3:0xaed2af1e3fcaaaf0!2m2!1d0.4685497!2d51.7355868!1m5!1m1!1s0x47da076c9b854ebb:0x76a38a18f1d060ad!2m2!1d1.719599!2d52.673792!1m5!1m1!1s0x47d7c2c53856f733:0x8406d541f1a0910c!2m2!1d-0.026577!2d52.97894!1m5!1m1!1s0x4878733cdd575f91:0x69a8451d0e471241!2m2!1d-0.1378359!2d53.079011!1m5!1m1!1s0x487e64c8cbe0fc97:0xa8135c37990656ba!2m2!1d-1.517366!2d54.897432!3e1?hl=en).  (You'd have to ride back a bit to get to Teeside, though. :)

Comes down to 300 if you don't go to California.

I'd route to the east after NY so you can go over the Lincolnshire Wolds and past the Beaumont transmitter which is the highest man-made structure in the EU.  Then you can go over the Humber Bridge  :thumbsup:

Hadn't looked at the actual route, it's just whatever google thought on "cycling" mode, to get a ball park for the distance between the "controls".
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on June 01, 2016, 01:12:18 pm
I rode to Edinburgh in 2011. I passed through Teeside on the way. My idea was to roughly follow NCN1, but leave it at any point it got ridiculous or the signs ran out. It worked pretty well. I didn't have any maps or even a plan, I just headed north!

From memory, before Teeside I camped at (or rather near) Wisbech, Market Rasen, Bridlington, Hinderwell... Then obvioulsy places further north. I got lost badly in Middlesbrough and swore a lot  :P
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on June 01, 2016, 01:49:22 pm
on the SSL thing I am in the camp of thinking we should just go for it from the start.

If required I am happy to sponsor the £24 for the first year and then see where we are.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on June 01, 2016, 01:54:31 pm
I rode to Edinburgh in 2011. I passed through Teeside on the way. My idea was to roughly follow NCN1, but leave it at any point it got ridiculous or the signs ran out. It worked pretty well. I didn't have any maps or even a plan, I just headed north!

From memory, before Teeside I camped at (or rather near) Wisbech, Market Rasen, Bridlington, Hinderwell... Then obvioulsy places further north. I got lost badly in Middlesbrough and swore a lot  :P

Swearing a lot - you'd fit right in with the natives lol
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on June 01, 2016, 03:13:58 pm
[Global CFO interruption]
It is noted that a number of individuals are happy to chip in with various levels of help in time and money, especially while we get ACME off the ground.  I am conscious of committing to ongoing recurring costs should we ever become less fortunate in good will in the future, although I'm not suggesting we would.
I think we should do things 'properly' if we can but it also has to be sustainable year on year.
[/end of interruption]

On the subject of website SSL, how much personal information do we need to cache? Anything confidential could be linked to other cloud services such as Google Docs or similar and use PayPal for handling financials. 
On the subject of fixed IP address, apart from the convenience of a fixed IP being able to be documented, is (free) Dynamic DNS also an option?
Just putting those up for comment and to be shot down.  ::-)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 01, 2016, 03:27:28 pm
Wot the Global CFO said. It's all very well doing it properly but it has to be sustainable. If it ain't reasonably sustainable then we should question whether we should be doing it at all.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on June 01, 2016, 04:11:18 pm
[Global CFO interruption]
It is noted that a number of individuals are happy to chip in with various levels of help in time and money, especially while we get ACME off the ground.  I am conscious of committing to ongoing recurring costs should we ever become less fortunate in good will in the future, although I'm not suggesting we would.
I think we should do things 'properly' if we can but it also has to be sustainable year on year.
[/end of interruption]

On the subject of website SSL, how much personal information do we need to cache? Anything confidential could be linked to other cloud services such as Google Docs or similar and use PayPal for handling financials. 
On the subject of fixed IP address, apart from the convenience of a fixed IP being able to be documented, is (free) Dynamic DNS also an option?
Just putting those up for comment and to be shot down.  ::-)

Well, the user name and password of anyone logging into the site for a start! This may seem trivial (and perhaps it is) but if you are asking for a user name and password, you are asking for confidential information. Passing those around the interwebs in plain text is a security and privacy risk. The likelyhood of someone trying to sniff out ACME user names and passwords? Probably somewhere close to zero, but it's the principle. That's why yacf runs under SSL. Other information might be names and phone numbers etc...

As for the IP - it's not about it being fixed or dynamic, it's about it being dedicated. ie no other website will share that IP. This is necessary if securing the site with SSL.

Hope that helps, Global CFO!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on June 01, 2016, 04:34:03 pm
I was going to suggest fixing the username/password thing by using  OAuth 2.0 and only supporting the use of external credentials supported by that (Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, Microsoft, ...) and NOT supporting any kind of local login.  The problem with that is that you always have some folks who won't countenance having any of those accounts who would then be excluded. (I'm not sure I see that as an issue, myself, mind).

I'd still lean towards SSL, though, even if the password handling was outsourced to one of the online authentication services, but it would probably depend on having an annual funding drive... (perhaps we need one of those thermometers they use for church roof fundraising progress meters).

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on June 01, 2016, 04:43:49 pm
I was going to suggest fixing the username/password thing by using  OAuth 2.0 and only supporting the use of external credentials supported by that (Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, Microsoft, ...) and NOT supporting any kind of local login.

Although I've done that before, it was a massive pain in the arse and not something I really want to do. It also sends out a strange message to users IMO...

Edit: Further to that, if you don't exchange the OAuth token via SSL you've kind of defeated the purpose of it!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on June 02, 2016, 11:47:49 am
I was going to suggest fixing the username/password thing by using  OAuth 2.0 and only supporting the use of external credentials supported by that (Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, Microsoft, ...) and NOT supporting any kind of local login.

Although I've done that before, it was a massive pain in the arse and not something I really want to do. It also sends out a strange message to users IMO...

Edit: Further to that, if you don't exchange the OAuth token via SSL you've kind of defeated the purpose of it!

Ah OK.  My understanding of it is limited (to the extent that I played with using Google auth within a toy web app), but I thought that the token transfer is between the ACME server and the Auth provider and is via a GET using the SSL of the Auth provider, not the ACME site.  i.e. not between the user and the ACME site.  I could be wrong (probably am!).
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on June 02, 2016, 12:07:01 pm
You might be right actually. The code could be sent in plain text and in exchange you receive the token from the provider's SSL. But anyway...............

Let's not worry about it at the moment!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on June 02, 2016, 12:17:10 pm
You might be right actually. The code could be sent in plain text and in exchange you receive the token from the provider's SSL. But anyway...............

Let's not worry about it at the moment!

 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on June 02, 2016, 12:32:30 pm
After the proverbial hat was passed round at the start of the Witham Cycling led ride last evening the WC/ACME funds have been somewhat boosted.  If it still stands or not, with tippers' offer of specific donation for SSL the decision over fixed IP and SSL certificate can be transitioned to a technical one rather than the finances poking their oar in.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on June 02, 2016, 03:46:42 pm
hmmm, I don't want to rock the boat but I am a little confused now. So we got funds from Witham Cycling folk (which I guess was towards the Cycling UK fees) as WC will be using that insurance so it is good some of the cover comes from there. But with boosted coffers do we still needs someone to cover that £24? If we are going to do a website for ACME is that not money well spent? I guess we need the tech folk (or just Bobb) to decide.

I am happy to sponsor the £24 but if we have some cash available I am also happy that 'club' funds get spent on that.

Also, can I just check that other than coming under the same Cycling UK thing Witham Cycling and ACME will be completely separate right?

Is it worth us all having a discussion about all this next Wednesday? As I think there are various ideas about what ACME will actually be and I think it is worth us all agreeing (or not) but at least knowing what the full plan is.

From my perspective (and after a discussion with Oaky last night on the way home, rudely interrupted by a suicidal Carradice  :facepalm:) we kind of agreed that we both like the idea of a very loose structure with no need for AGM's and the like. For me that more rigid club structure is why I have no intention of joining any of the other clubs in the area.....I just wanna ride me bike
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 02, 2016, 03:55:53 pm
Great minds tipper, great minds.  Hang fire for the moment, huggy and I have been chatting about stuff recently and we also have a potential mystery benefactor.  Expect an update in the next few days.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on June 02, 2016, 04:05:09 pm
 :thumbsup: Sweet as!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on June 02, 2016, 04:09:42 pm
Exciting!  :)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 02, 2016, 04:11:53 pm
Tomsk and I are having a little chat.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on June 02, 2016, 04:14:52 pm
The resurrected Flitch Bikes by chance......?


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 02, 2016, 04:19:40 pm
Not really.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on June 02, 2016, 04:20:59 pm
The resurrected Flitch Bikes by chance......?


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Good to see you last night Briefly...between KOM's. Glad we could do our Domestique duties for you Frank Zappi  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oaky on June 02, 2016, 04:32:57 pm
BTW - I just checked the AUK Club Results page (http://www.aukweb.net/results/detail/this/clubs/) and I see that ACME is now on a 6-rider total of 150 points (only 1 point behind yacf!!).  Obviously the real points monsters (e.g. Audax Club Bristol, VC167) have nothing to worry about but it's interesting to see how well little old ACME is doing!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on June 02, 2016, 04:46:35 pm
The resurrected Flitch Bikes by chance......?


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Good to see you last night Briefly...between KOM's. Glad we could do our Domestique duties for you Frank Zappi  ;D

Cheers Tippers it was good to catch up briefly with some familiar faces and nice to collect the KOM set last night!
Domestique duties worked well as I left the peloton with an average speed of 12mph and ramped it up to 15mph by the time I got home having battled the relentless wind and gusts......!


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on June 02, 2016, 06:39:51 pm
Forward planning alert             Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert              Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert             Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert              Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert             Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert              Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert             Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert              Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert             Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert              Forward planning alert               

Hurdlemakers Arms 12th Annual Beer Festival
Friday 24 th June 4pm-11pl
Sat 25 th June 12-11
Sun 26 th June 12-10

25+ real ale, 8+ ciders, BBQ...


Windmill Audax is that Sunday IIRC, so potential Friday family fun?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on June 02, 2016, 08:24:20 pm
Forward planning alert             Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert              Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert             Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert              Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert             Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert              Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert             Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert              Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert             Forward planning alert               Forward planning alert              Forward planning alert               

Hurdlemakers Arms 12th Annual Beer Festival
Friday 24 th June 4pm-11pl
Sat 25 th June 12-11
Sun 26 th June 12-10

25+ real ale, 8+ ciders, BBQ...


Windmill Audax is that Sunday IIRC, so potential Friday family fun?
:thumbsup:
Might work out a DIY to end there on the Saturday..... ::-)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on June 02, 2016, 08:25:44 pm
I'm probably aiming for the Friday as oil be riding Sunday.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on June 03, 2016, 11:23:56 am
Olly Murs - Dear Darlin just came on the radio at work brought back some memories.......


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 03, 2016, 11:44:41 am
I'm not sure whether I've widely mentioned this but I insist on being ACME's Musical Director. 
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on June 03, 2016, 11:49:57 am
I'm not sure whether I've widely mentioned this but I insist on being ACME's Musical Director.

For the next epiphany do would there be any chance you could do a rendition of 'Will Griggs on Fire' ??


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 03, 2016, 12:05:09 pm
I'm not sure whether I've widely mentioned this but I insist on being ACME's Musical Director.

For the next epiphany do would there be any chance you could do a rendition of 'Will Griggs on Fire' ??


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Certainly not. I don't do requests.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on June 03, 2016, 01:32:44 pm
I'm not sure whether I've widely mentioned this but I insist on being ACME's Musical Director.

For the next epiphany do would there be any chance you could do a rendition of 'Will Griggs on Fire' ??


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Certainly not. I don't do requests.
If he did requests we would all be asking for John Cage's 4'33
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Carlosfandango on June 03, 2016, 03:25:06 pm
Hopefully with an extended encore. He'd never manage it though ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 03, 2016, 03:28:31 pm
For all you know me and bobb could have already started rehearsals for this next year's Epiphany Do! 
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on June 03, 2016, 03:34:57 pm
 :thumbsup:
Excellent. I will try to arrange a venue with a suitable stage and lighting for this year (or next as it is)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 03, 2016, 03:40:40 pm
:thumbsup:
Excellent. I will try to arrange a venue with a suitable stage and lighting for this year (or next as it is)

I'll need one of those Winnebago things as well.  Plus my band will be bigger, much bigger!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on June 03, 2016, 03:42:15 pm
:thumbsup:
Excellent. I will try to arrange a venue with a suitable stage and lighting for this year (or next as it is)

Evoke nightclub in Chelmsford for OD and Bobb to do a set! No doubt Ted has a table permanently reserved in then VIP area for when he entertains his TOWIE clientele!


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on June 05, 2016, 05:41:48 pm
A reduced ACME peloton composed of Bobb, the Hustler, Marco Pantani, Jiberjaber and me set off on the Asparagus and Strawberries yesterday.

We were soon joined, in controversial circumstances, by the Straggler. He had already amassed over 50 points and is aiming to go hyper but no amount of cajoling, pressure and charm could persuade him to move over to the dark side and join ACME.  It seems that we are ok to ride with when his Sudbury CC mates are smashing it up the front of the field but not good enough to join  ;D. He has said that a brown envelope of the right size might tip the balance though.

It was a windy and hot ride up to Wells with the usual slog from Acle to the Coast.  It is probably fair to say that we were a bit guilty of enjoying relaxed stops and then trying to make up time by doing one in between.  By the time we reached Wells there were plenty of weary legs. Jiber lit what he called his last match in a frantic bid to drag us to Weasenham before closing time.  Never has the usually impeccably organised northerner looked so panicked as when he realised we had an hour to get there to make it worthwhile. We made it in time but there were few among us who looked capable of a sustained pull to take advantage of the tailwind to barton.

Luckily help was at hand in the shape of our new best friend Rob on Sea.  Aside from the occasional token cameo appearance, he basically led us from Weasenham to Manningtree - actually there was a bit of a gap when he ended up pulling the wrong group into  Saffron Walden but we soon forgave him and allowed him the honour of going on the front for 68 of the last 70 kilometres until the Hustler put in his usual Arrivee Spurt and hammered home.

Needless to say, Jiber had no problems at all with the distance and had clearly been overthinking the whole thing.

Our BCM participants had a bit of the after the Lord Mayor's show vibe going on but Sister Carol is now an SR   :thumbsup:

The Hustler is next.

As for me, I struggled badly.  I managed to hold down my Macdonald's for nearly 10 minutes before throwing it back up and I never really recovered.  It's easy to forget that 400k is a long way and get a bit blasé about the whole thing - lesson learned the hard way  :facepalm:



Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 05, 2016, 06:44:47 pm
Gosh  :o

Well done you chaps. The A&S is a tough ride, it bit me on the arse last year so much respect to you all.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: the straggler on June 05, 2016, 07:29:39 pm
Nearly had to pull out of this event due to work deadline commitments for Monday, but glad to make it to the start.  Met some familiar and forgotten faces at start.  Started with my CCS team mates, then straggled off to join Hampshire 'Trikey' James group at Halesworth and straggled to and finished ride with the renowned Team ACME from Acles onward to Manningtree.  Currently under legal contractual allegiance with CCS, switching over to ACME could lead to myself being treated as an outcast by my home town community.  Being CCS tail end Charlie audaxer, hanging onto club mates is always a tall order often ending up getting smashed.

Found the ACME pace more civilised, joined by Rob On Sea who did massive turns on front through the night.  Congratulation to Rob on sea and Jibers in completing their 1st 400km and look forward in them getting their SR award this season.  I found that Hyper SR is a recognised but not a medal award and looks less appealing now.

Must offer my apologies to Ian who introduced himself at Acles, but my poor memory lapse of riding with him were hazy.  I should not have excuses in remembering him in future after kindly offering me a strawberry. I seriously might have to consider changing my forum name to 'the mackerel'. :-[

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on June 05, 2016, 07:46:00 pm
Cracking report chaps, I'm presently kicking back with a pint reflecting but not aching which must be a first!(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160605/d5ed135c1c0b30a668c2649753cb0bac.jpg)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on June 06, 2016, 09:00:15 am
Now that I have had some sleep I can deal with the more important matters arising from A&S.

1. Weather - ACME summer time has officially begun  :thumbsup: - Bobb was spotted in short sleeves and less than 4 layers for a brief period on Saturday afternoon.

2. Photography - when I see an esteemed non-riding fellow member standing  at the top of a hill I expect him to be holding a box of ice creams not a sodding camera  >:(

Carlos has asked me to point out that his image rights are very valuable so all requests for photographs should be made via his agent.

3. Catering - i am new to this game so I rely heavily on others for the essentials (you know, navigation, towing me along, holding my bike when I have cramp, telling me my wheel isn't on properly etc) but the thing I rely on most is the ACME method ie audaxing at a civilised pace.  This requires a careful balance of doing one, smashing it, fafffage, hedge stops and relaxed eating.  It seems ridiculous to be concerned about experience when you are in a group with the likes of Bobb and the Straggler to help you along but few people have the organisational flair of Huggy when it comes to the classic combination of audaxing and fine dining.  The bring back Huggy campaign starts here. I owe it to my stomach.

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on June 06, 2016, 09:38:47 am
Next time.....I will bring my little helpers along and set up a feed zone for you.....NOT.

I felt a bit bad but then I figured I've been done at the top of a hill by a photographer so many times I deserved to get one back. I blamed it on Tomsk if anyone mentioned the cruelty of it  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 06, 2016, 10:09:36 am
... Carlos has asked me to point out that his image rights are very valuable so all requests for photographs should be made via his agent.

Which is me  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on June 06, 2016, 10:29:25 am
... Carlos has asked me to point out that his image rights are very valuable so all requests for photographs should be made via his agent.

Which is me  ;D

Is there any truth in the rumour that there is a super injunction in place in case Jiber tries to sell any of the pictures he took of Sister Carol in the wee small hours of Sunday morning ?  He does look very different at that time of the morning when he hasn't slept for a day and without his make up, mood lighting and soft focus lens.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 06, 2016, 10:41:34 am
Absolutely!

Carlos has valuable contracts with BHS, M&S, Next, Topman, Moss Bros, Fatface, Head&Shoulders, Rapha, poncycyclingshoes.com and many more too numerous to mention.  Any snaps of him at anything less than his best could cost me him shit loads of money  :facepalm:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Tomsk on June 06, 2016, 02:36:18 pm
I found that Hyper SR is a recognised but not a medal award and looks less appealing now.

'Hypers' know who the select few are...but I wouldn't be averse to a medal, should one exist  :thumbsup:

And my congrats to first-timers at 400km and new SRs alike  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 06, 2016, 05:58:29 pm
hmmm, I don't want to rock the boat but I am a little confused now. So we got funds from Witham Cycling folk (which I guess was towards the Cycling UK fees) as WC will be using that insurance so it is good some of the cover comes from there. But with boosted coffers do we still needs someone to cover that £24? If we are going to do a website for ACME is that not money well spent? I guess we need the tech folk (or just Bobb) to decide.

I am happy to sponsor the £24 but if we have some cash available I am also happy that 'club' funds get spent on that.

Also, can I just check that other than coming under the same Cycling UK thing Witham Cycling and ACME will be completely separate right?

Is it worth us all having a discussion about all this next Wednesday? As I think there are various ideas about what ACME will actually be and I think it is worth us all agreeing (or not) but at least knowing what the full plan is.

From my perspective (and after a discussion with Oaky last night on the way home, rudely interrupted by a suicidal Carradice  :facepalm:) we kind of agreed that we both like the idea of a very loose structure with no need for AGM's and the like. For me that more rigid club structure is why I have no intention of joining any of the other clubs in the area.....I just wanna ride me bike

Right then, in response to tippers' post above ...

huggy and I have been trying to raise 2 years worth on insurance premium so we don't have to pass the begging bowl around too often - cos it's boring.  Last week we collected £49 from the WC folks, this week I will try to collect another £26.  In addition one of the WC blokes has stumped up £75 and the Global CFO should have the money by Wednesday.  So it looks like we will have achieved our target.  So that the WC folks think they are getting their money's worth I will run a few more led rides, it would be nice if some of you chaps could as well.  I also hope we can do a few more velodrome trips this year, the ride leader insurance is vital for these trips.

I have said that I want the WC contributions ring fenced and spent only on ride leader insurance as the money was given solely for this purpose.  That means the contributions from us lot can be spent on ACME stuff or whatever else.   I think we have contributed c£140 thus far.

Now the "club" thing.  What we have now are a variety of informal entities offering different activities but there is also significant crossover.  We have the MEMWNS, ACME, WC, huggy's AUK rides and Tomsk's AUK rides.  I think we do need some sort of club structure to fall back on.  So far, cos WC has ride leader insurance it also has CUK affiliation - hence there's your "club" right there.  We couldn't do the velodrome evenings without the CUK affiliation and also huggy used the affiliation to help set himself up with AUK.  I'm not sure we can change WC's name and I'm not sure it's necessary.  My view is all the things we have planned can carry on as they are, but if  "club" is ever required for some tedious bit of bureaucracy we have WC and it's CUK affiliation to fall back on. 

Money, if we are to be a "club" even in the loosest sense I think we need a bit of cash, which we now have.  Further funds could easily be raised from event entry fees (audaxs and velodrome) plus jersey and cap sales (any renting 'fandango out as a knitting pattern model).

What do we think?
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on June 06, 2016, 06:32:17 pm
 :thumbsup: Good ride Tom, I actually really enjoyed the last stage and was over the moon to find we entered Newmarket halfway up that horrible climb.... or at least that's what it felt like in the dark LOL  I had some bad shoulder/rear chest pain during the ride which Ibuprofen wasn't doing much to solve but I discovered standing up when descending helped a lot... the pain miraculous went for the last 100km somehow, perhaps it was my mental state due to tiredness blocking it.

A change in riding style prompted by riding with Grant last week saw me leave the big ring along, this worked well until the combination of new chain and the wear in my cassette started to show meaning my top 2-4 gears were useless for putting any power through, so for the rest of the ride I was playing between front and rear to a comfortable cadence... new cassette ordered today!

I've other memories coming back to me now...

Things wot I learned was (recorded so I can remember for next time...):

Hopefully my overpaid administrative staff got my brevet in the post today, let me know how many days it's late by so I can start my claim for liquidated damages..... 

We'll look fantastic once we are all astern in ACME regalia ...
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on June 06, 2016, 06:59:35 pm
hmmm, I don't want to rock the boat but I am a little confused now. So we got funds from Witham Cycling folk (which I guess was towards the Cycling UK fees) as WC will be using that insurance so it is good some of the cover comes from there. But with boosted coffers do we still needs someone to cover that £24? If we are going to do a website for ACME is that not money well spent? I guess we need the tech folk (or just Bobb) to decide.

I am happy to sponsor the £24 but if we have some cash available I am also happy that 'club' funds get spent on that.

Also, can I just check that other than coming under the same Cycling UK thing Witham Cycling and ACME will be completely separate right?

Is it worth us all having a discussion about all this next Wednesday? As I think there are various ideas about what ACME will actually be and I think it is worth us all agreeing (or not) but at least knowing what the full plan is.

From my perspective (and after a discussion with Oaky last night on the way home, rudely interrupted by a suicidal Carradice  :facepalm:) we kind of agreed that we both like the idea of a very loose structure with no need for AGM's and the like. For me that more rigid club structure is why I have no intention of joining any of the other clubs in the area.....I just wanna ride me bike

Right then, in response to tippers' post above ...

huggy and I have been trying to raise 2 years worth on insurance premium so we don't have to pass the begging bowl around too often - cos it's boring.  Last week we collected £49 from the WC folks, this week I will try to collect another £26.  In addition one of the WC blokes has stumped up £75 and the Global CFO should have the money by Wednesday.  So it looks like we will have achieved our target.  So that the WC folks think they are getting their money's worth I will run a few more led rides, it would be nice if some of you chaps could as well.  I also hope we can do a few more velodrome trips this year, the ride leader insurance is vital for these trips.

I have said that I want the WC contributions ring fenced and spent only on ride leader insurance as the money was given solely for this purpose.  That means the contributions from us lot can be spent on ACME stuff or whatever else.   I think we have contributed c£140 thus far.

Now the "club" thing.  What we have now are a variety of informal entities offering different activities but there is also significant crossover.  We have the MEMWNS, ACME, WC, huggy's AUK rides and Tomsk's AUK rides.  I think we do need some sort of club structure to fall back on.  So far, cos WC has ride leader insurance it also has CUK affiliation - hence there's your "club" right there.  We couldn't do the velodrome evenings without the CUK affiliation and also huggy used the affiliation to help set himself up with AUK.  I'm not sure we can change WC's name and I'm not sure it's necessary.  My view is all the things we have planned can carry on as they are, but if  "club" is ever required for some tedious bit of bureaucracy we have WC and it's CUK affiliation to fall back on. 

Money, if we are to be a "club" even in the loosest sense I think we need a bit of cash, which we now have.  Further funds could easily be raised from event entry fees (audaxs and velodrome) plus jersey and cap sales (any renting 'fandango out as a knitting pattern model).

What do we think?

As long as the Global CFO and 'fandango's agent aren't planning on "doing one" with the proceeds of the Xmas raffle then I am relatively cool with the arrangement, though sometimes there is a need to say upfront what might happen with money should we decide to fold the gathering and there's coffers still in the bank, plus on top of that might bring some regular reporting on said piggy bank... 

Like Nik I don't do clubs as my experience of them is they tend to end up a political sideshow for whoever has the most time... perhaps we should consult our ACME legal eagle after he's finished attending to my administrative tasks... ?

(joking aside, most orgs I've known have something that says in the event of closing, the remaining funds will be given to a certain charity or something like that - but that comes with some admin as noted above (no - not my brevet, the accounting bit... ) )

I recall something recently about a need for Chelmsford CTC to have meetings and keep mins of them, something about a change of status releasing them of that duty... not sure if that is something or nothing...)

ETA: CUK policy booklet might be worth a peruse to ensure the interpretation is right, don't you already have a formal entity, WC, else you couldn't get the Affiliated Group and ride leader stuff in place?  http://www.cyclinguk.org/sites/default/files/file_Public/policy_handbook_for_cycling_uk_member_groups_2016_final.pdf

ETA#2: I didn't realise that  'Affiliated Members of Cycling UK' doesn't give you voting rights in CUK!
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on June 06, 2016, 08:58:11 pm
How much detail do you really want ?

Apologies in advance to anyone who actually reads this.

I think we are probably all agreed (?) that ACME is a distinct group from WC but that there will be a great deal of crossover between the two with many ACME members also being members of WC. That is probably a crucial distinction; you can be a member of one without being a member of the other.

I don't know a lot about WC but I do know that it is an affiliated group of Cycling UK. This gives it access to some third party insurance cover subject only to compliance with certain Cycling UK rules.  As an aside, Chelmsford CTC is an informal group of Cycling UK so is subject to more rules but nothing like it would be if it was a formal group.  As another aside, Audax United Kingdom Long Distance Cyclists' Association ("AUK") is an affiliated group of Cycling UK.

However WC and AUK are very different in structure.  WC is an unincorporated association whereas AUK is a company limited by guarantee.

There is no statutory definition for an unincorporated association, but a number of definitions appear in case law. The most well-known definition comes from Lawton LJ in Conservative and Unionist Central Office v Burrell [1982] WLR 522, who defined the entity as "two or more persons bound together for one or more common purposes, not being business purposes, by mutual undertakings each having mutual duties and obligations, in an organisation which has rules which identify in whom control of it and its funds rests and on what terms and which can be joined or left at will".

It is a structure that most clubs adopt almost by accident when they are formed.  Legally it could probably be argued that ACME is already an unincorporated association as none of the rules need to be in writing.  The only thing that could be a saving grace is that no one has asked for or paid a subscription.  I understand that ACH is free to join and I assume it lives off a small surcharge on the kit it sells.  Perhaps someone could reach out to ACH or ACB and ask.  Keeping it simple has a real attraction here as you will find out below.

Most clubs do go on to have some basic rules and safeguards to prevent Arthur Fowler Xmas Club situations and to deal with a range of issues including:

The name of the association;

The association’s object and purposes;

Election and admission of members;

Payment of subscriptions;

Resignation of members;

Suspension and expulsion of members;

Composition of the managing committee;

Management of the association’s affairs;

Finance and property;

General meetings;

Alteration of rules;

Dissolution of the association; and

Power of specific officers to bind members.


The problem with unincorporated associations is that they have no legal capacity as an entity separate from their members.  This becomes an increasing problem as they become bigger and need to deal with third parties.  At this point most will appoint a committee to act on their behalf, which brings its own list of new issues,  and many will become companies limited by guarantee. There are other structures that may work for a group depending on what they are doing.  There is also a tax efficient structure for Community Amateur Sports Clubs that many local sports clubs will sign up to.

There are liability issues as well.  It is not possible to sue an unincorporated association as it has no legal personality.  It would theoretically be possible to sue all the members of an association if the association at large was, say, causing a nuisance.  Normally, however, it would be an individual that was sued.  Most of us carry third party insurance by being members of Cycling UK or the correct grade of membership of British Cycling.  Huggy has already identified the real issue with liability in relation to WC, an individual being held liable because of something they do on behalf of the club. This why the velodrome insists on club insurance cover.  It is hard to see how this could really be an issue as the only thing that ACME will do will be to organise certain audax events and these would be covered under AUK's policy.  It may be food for thought though.

You will not be surprised to hear that the only real exceptions to the legal entity point are tax and anti-discrimination rules (though in both cases there are de minimis rules in place).

If anyone is still awake and at the risk of being even more boring, if we are going to end up as an unincorporated association, it does probably make sense to have the most basic set of rules imaginable in place at least.  These rules are usually as much for the protection of those looking after the money and members as they are for the members.   Fortunately there is nothing new under the sun really when it comes to this sort of thing and it should not be hard to create a set of rules.  I was thinking that the amounts we are talking about are not large and it was a bit of overkill but Tomsk is potentially about to create an order for c. 2k worth of jersey and caps so perhaps the amounts are not trivial after all.

At least on this occasion it really is alright to blame Oaky as he came up with the concept in the first place  :o
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: bobb on June 06, 2016, 09:15:54 pm
Arthur Fowler Xmas Club situations

Please tell me that this is often cited in legal circles  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on June 06, 2016, 09:30:45 pm
Not as often as the Ian and Cindie custody battle.

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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: The Retiree on June 06, 2016, 09:32:32 pm
What about poor old innocent Max being sent down for a murder he didn't commit


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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on June 06, 2016, 10:05:30 pm
Mrs jiberjaber has just asked me why I'm crying with laughter!

Good summary GD.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tedshred on June 06, 2016, 10:12:50 pm
You will also be pleased to hear that I have done your administration as well. 

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Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on June 06, 2016, 10:54:48 pm
Excellent, many thanks for that! :)
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on June 06, 2016, 11:11:20 pm

Good summary GD.
You call that a summary?!  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: jiberjaber on June 06, 2016, 11:52:33 pm
Being on the receiving end of plenty of legal advice, that is one of the better ones  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: tippers_kiwi on June 07, 2016, 09:24:21 am
Folks, just in case anyone might be interested in joining me I have just entered a DIY 200k for June 25th. To keep my RRTY live I need to get this done and I can't do the Windmill ride on the same day as I need to be home late afternoon/early evening so I am planning on it being a reasonably steady ride with limited stopping time.

The route is the same as THIS (https://www.strava.com/activities/448895642)

My plan is to be on the road at about 4am and do a non stop to Red Lodge for breakfast then a quick snack/coffee in Saffron Walden and a beer at the Swan in Little Totham just a couple of KM from home.

I'm planning this to be my first Fixed 200 as well so who knows how it will go!

Let me know if you are interested in joining the fun. I can pass on the details.

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 07, 2016, 09:48:52 am
How much detail do you really want ?

Apologies in advance to anyone who actually reads this ...

Re ted's excellent summary ^^^

Everything ted says sounds fine.  I'm not in favour of red tape and rulz.  I suppose the only times when such things are needed are where insurance is required or when money changes hands.  For the moment at least we have the insurance angle covered and given I am only handing over relatively small sums of money to people I trust 1 million % I personally have no need for my financial interests to be safeguarded in any way - others might feel differently.

ACME's links with WC are a marriage of convenience with ACME riding on the back of something that was already in existence.  Nobody, least of all me, seems to have a problem with this.  But there's nothing to stop ACME striking out on it's own and affiliating with CUK in it's own right.  WC can sail on regardless.  If ACME and WC were to part company it would be easy for the funds collected so far to be split based on who had contributed what.
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on June 07, 2016, 10:12:56 am
To continue the current multiple topic conversations and return to the WC / ACME finances discussion for my two pennies of textual input...

The issue of passing the hat around for contributions may have got a little blurred for the purpose of paying for certain immediate expenses and subsequently creating a small cash float.  For my part, for which I have been volunteered in to the position of GCFO, the intentions were in chronological order:
1. Pay for the CUK Ride Leader premium, reasons for having this are well documented up thread.  I was willing to underwrite this with the expectation of reimbursement throughout the year by way of small supplement on rides and Velodrome trips etc.. The 2016 premium has been paid by a combination of WC led ride participant and MEMWNS member donations, with further WC donations expected to be able to have at least 1 year's premium in the bank.
2. MEMWNS / ACME member donations have helped sub the CUK premium in the short term but will be 'repaid' with WC led ride income and another significant benefactor.
3. ACME member donations for getting the 'club' off the ground to be used for the payment of set up stuff for the website, Internet domain(s), fixed IP and jersey design fee.  Some of these have been underwritten by individuals but the funds remain available for the purpose of reimbursement if requested.
4. In future, ACME club funds may be boosted by brevet supplements, cake sales, passing the hat around at Epiphany to request OD to stop singing, jersey sales, etc.

The purpose of WC and ACME are separate but have shared some common financial goals up to now; the revenue streams are documented and separated by me and can now be forevermore kept separate given that the only real expenditure that WC has is the CUK premium, ACME will have ongoing running costs.  Accounting records can be shared if required, I did suggest that we have a members/officers access only area on the ACME website to post such records.

To the subject of running ACME AUK events, no they do not need to be covered for insurance purposes by the WC CUK association due to AUK having their own specific insurance for that purpose.
*** Interesting fact - did you know that when you are on an AUK ride although you are covered for 3rd party liability there is a £500 excess? ***
Reason to have personal 3rd party liability cover anyway??
To the subject of you good readers also having vested interest in WC, if you have been or intend to go to a Velodrome event with WC in the future then you will benefit from the WC CUK associated membership.
Therefore there is inextricable cross-over of membership of WC and ACME, so everyone's donations started off in the one pot but we are now in the happy position that they can be appropriated to distinct group activities.  It may be cleaner for WC to be absorbed under the name of ACME and change the name with CUK but that runs the jeopardy of new cyclists in the Witham area not feeling like they have an easy access cycling group to introduce them and nurture their confidence on the road, I include myself in that and look what's happened to me!!  So I don't think WC can be absorbed or dissolved but runs in complement to ACME and vice versa.  It just makes the financial recording a little more challenging that's all.

Do we need a formal set of rules for these two cycling groups of friends and loose associates? Possibly. I hand you back to the legal department.
However, if at around Christmas/Epiphany time you don't hear from me just call me Arthur.

Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
Post by: huggy on June 07, 2016, 10:19:48 am
joking aside, most orgs I've known have something that says in the event of closing, the remaining funds will be given to a certain charity or something like that - but that comes with some admin as noted above
Well that's easy and obvious - it just gets put in the Hello Kitty purse kitty and used up at the next MEMWNS outing  ;D
Title: Re: ACME Miscellany
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