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Title: [HAMR] A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on February 26, 2016, 09:53:32 pm
(http://s10.postimg.org/s14k76d7t/amanda_YACF.jpg)

Via Jacquie Schlitter-

"It's official. Amanda Coker's HAMR application is on its way. I cannot wait to see what Alicia Searvogel and Amanda have in store for us this year. I wholeheartedly support both of them in their endeavors and hope this will inspire more women to get out and push their limits. 2 delightfully determined women, 2 very different age groups represented. I can't wait and I hope to ride many miles with both of them throughout the next year."
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: crowriver on February 26, 2016, 10:08:03 pm
Aye, just saw this in the Ultracycling Fb group.

Looks like The Year is taking off as a new challenge for cyclists...
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on February 27, 2016, 10:40:51 am
Allez Amanda!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on February 27, 2016, 10:42:41 am
Looks like The Year is taking off as a new challenge for cyclists...
It's the new LEJOG !
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Nuncio on March 09, 2016, 12:55:54 pm
From her  Gofundme (https://www.gofundme.com/goamandacoker) ($800 of $6,000 raised so far) page:

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This year I will be bicycling in an attempt to set/break the Women's Highest Annual Mileage Record (HAMR)!

For 365 days I will be cycling in an effort to break the 78 year old world record. The record was set by Billie Dovey in 1938 at a total of 29,603.7 miles.

I will be attempting to break the world record starting in the month of April 2016. This challege came to my attention after several fellow cyclists mentioned that I should go for the world record.

The reason for setting up this page is to help with the costs of daily essentials and any unforeseen costs associated with my HAMR attempt.

A little bit about me:
First of all, I LOVE cycling! It all began at the age of 15 when my parents got me my first road bicycle. From that point on cycling has been a major aspect in my life. After racing and training for a couple years, in 2010 I competed in my first Juniors Road Cycling Nationals, gaining a whole new love for the sport. After a lot of hard work, I was offered and accepted a cycling scholarship to college. The month before college started, I began suffering a litany of misfortune that continued over a span of years. Resulting in:
Two seperate reconstructive shoulder/clavicle surgeries, spinal surgery, PFO closure heart surgery, closed Traumatic Brain Injury, and several other injuries. Unfortunately these events kept me from returning to college, being on the cycling team, and competing in races. 

This past summer (in an attempt to put all my bad luck behind me), I successfully rode my bicycle from Florida to California in 32 days of riding. During my cross country trip I rekindled my love for cycling again and have continued to keep the fire burning! Since, I have become a part of the Ultra Marathon Cycling Association and recently completed my first ultra cycling race, which validated my disire to go for the world record. So, wheels are rolling and here I go!

Any donation will be greatly appreciated and put to good use. Thank you for reading my story and feel free to follow along with my year long endeavor!

Thank you for your time and support!

-Amanda Coker
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on March 09, 2016, 04:35:38 pm
Thanks for posting that. Is there any other way to get funds to Amanda? Having looked at their privacy (ha!) policy I'm not touching gofundme with a twenty foot mile pole.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: jsabine on March 09, 2016, 11:42:39 pm
Having looked at their privacy (ha!) policy I'm not touching gofundme with a twenty foot mile pole.

Didn't look that offensive. They set cookies; they'll send you junk (but you can opt out); they'll share your data with other parts of the business or with partners to provide the service; they'll flog aggregated user data to the highest bidder. So far, so standard - and if all you're doing is sending someone a fiver, your footprint with them will be pretty small.

Post on their forums or share your facebook details, and that's a different ballgame - but if all you're doing is sending someone a fiver, why would you do anything more?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on March 10, 2016, 09:49:28 am
It was the part where they help themselves to all your contacts in any device you log in from that put me off. Didn't read beyond that.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on March 10, 2016, 10:12:30 am
It was the part where they help themselves to all your contacts in any device you log in from that put me off. Didn't read beyond that.

Do you mean this:

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Mobile Device Address Book: The Services may also collect the Personal Data relating to third parties stored in your mobile device address book, including without limitation email addresses and phone numbers. Depending on your mobile device operating system, the Services may request your permission to access such Personal Data.

That is a bit intrusive.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on March 10, 2016, 10:22:31 am
Yep.  May != Will. No mention down to that point what they do with all those names, phone nos & addresses either.  Would all my contacts start getting spam along the line of 'One of your friends supported xx xx xx, would you like to too?'.

If anyone has a PayPal address for Amanda ping a pm please.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rafletcher on March 10, 2016, 12:07:46 pm
Don't use a "mobile device" then. Seems simple enough.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on March 10, 2016, 01:55:37 pm

If anyone has a PayPal address for Amanda ping a pm please.

She's working on setting one up right now. I'll PM you once she's finished.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on March 10, 2016, 02:23:41 pm
May != Will.

I assume you mean == rather than !=

Quite different meanings.  But I agree that this clause is pretty noxious.

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: jsabine on March 11, 2016, 01:11:43 am
It was the part where they help themselves to all your contacts in any device you log in from that put me off. Didn't read beyond that.

Do you mean this:

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Mobile Device Address Book: The Services may also collect the Personal Data relating to third parties stored in your mobile device address book, including without limitation email addresses and phone numbers. Depending on your mobile device operating system, the Services may request your permission to access such Personal Data.

That is a bit intrusive.

Indeed. For some reason I'd completely missed that when I had a look. (Probably too busy being a smart-arse to read it properly. Bah.)

I presume, though, that it's the mobile app which does so, and that you're only likely to be installing the app if you want to raise funds yourself, in which case allowing it to automagically generate emails to all your contacts *may* be something you actually want it to do.

I'd be a little cross if merely using the website to send someone a fiver from my phone resulted in all my contacts being swiped - but I'd be at least as cross at my device manufacturer as at Gofundme.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on March 11, 2016, 01:20:08 pm
I assume you mean == rather than !=

Quite different meanings.  But I agree that this clause is pretty noxious.
No.  I meant may is not equal to will so there's no assurance at all permission will be sought.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on March 12, 2016, 02:12:32 pm
For you users of Facebook, here's a link to Amanda's FB HAM'R page. She wanted to post it here herself, but for some reason her YACF registration has yet to be approved-

https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker/?fref=ts)

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Clemo on March 12, 2016, 08:53:08 pm
Good luck Amanda, Facebook page joined  :thumbsup: 8)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: a.coker on March 14, 2016, 08:35:12 pm
Hello everyone! Amanda Coker here. I just wanted to say hi and thank you for beginning to follow and support my year long endeavor. Looking forward to discussing cycling with you all!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Basil on March 14, 2016, 08:57:20 pm
Hi and welcome. 
Looking forward to following your exploits.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on March 15, 2016, 06:57:50 am
Hi Amanda. Good to see you here.  Best  of luck in your endeavour.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: tonyh on March 15, 2016, 07:24:27 am
 :thumbsup:   Yes!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Hummers on March 29, 2016, 06:59:10 am
Hello everyone! Amanda Coker here. I just wanted to say hi and thank you for beginning to follow and support my year long endeavor. Looking forward to discussing cycling with you all!  :thumbsup:

Good luck Amanda  :thumbsup:

H
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: TimC on March 29, 2016, 07:11:45 am
Good to see another participant in the HAMR. It's getting quite popular! Good luck, Amanda.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Clemo on April 28, 2016, 11:36:01 am
Any news on this attempt ?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rafletcher on April 28, 2016, 12:04:38 pm
Her Gofundme page says she would be starting this month. But it's only raised $800 so maybe money is an issue.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 03, 2016, 01:03:07 pm
Her Gofundme page says she would be starting this month. But it's only raised $800 so maybe money is an issue.

She's just getting some personal things taken care of before she starts. Shouldn't be long now.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: a.coker on May 12, 2016, 10:51:27 pm
Hello everyone! I just wanted to let you all know that I will be starting this Sunday, May 15th! Looking forward to an exciting year and thank you for following along.

(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13221702_1097632290302608_3458981814567234461_n.jpg?oh=ab4a197d71aee4d4ae6275157cd92da8&oe=57ACD53F)
-Amanda
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: tonyh on May 12, 2016, 11:03:07 pm
 :thumbsup:

Good luck Amanda!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: TimC on May 12, 2016, 11:05:38 pm
Excellent! Good luck, Amanda. We'll watch, analyse and discuss your year with interest. And always respectfully, I hope. And you'll get to feature in Jo's amazing graphics!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: hatler on May 12, 2016, 11:19:25 pm
GO !!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: peliroja on May 13, 2016, 07:27:42 am
Good luck Amanda, have fun!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Clemo on May 13, 2016, 09:38:02 am
Hello everyone! I just wanted to let you all know that I will be starting this Sunday, May 15th! Looking forward to an exciting year and thank you for following along.

(https://scontent-mia1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13221702_1097632290302608_3458981814567234461_n.jpg?oh=ab4a197d71aee4d4ae6275157cd92da8&oe=57ACD53F)
-Amanda
Excellent! good luck enjoy your year  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on May 13, 2016, 09:59:23 am
Bon rout, Amanda!  Wishing you smooth tarmac, no mechanicals, and tailwinds!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on May 13, 2016, 10:06:57 am
Good luck!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: fboab on May 13, 2016, 10:10:11 am
Good luck!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Basil on May 13, 2016, 10:27:41 am
Good luck and have a good year.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on May 13, 2016, 01:14:23 pm
Good luck Amanda.  Starting in good weather might well be the key to success as you will be well into before the winter but not starting in the cold and wet.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Jabba on May 13, 2016, 01:57:58 pm
Flat roads and tailwinds..... good luck Amanda :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: zigzag on May 13, 2016, 11:42:41 pm
best of luck, respect!!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on May 14, 2016, 02:30:33 pm
Good luck Amanda :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 14, 2016, 03:32:20 pm
From Kurt's FB page- "Alicia and I are traveling down to Tampa to help see our friend Amanda Coker off as she begins her year long adventure."

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on May 15, 2016, 07:19:58 am
Ayone found the live tracker?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Mr Larrington on May 15, 2016, 11:04:58 am
It's probably not had much to track yet!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rabbit on May 15, 2016, 11:43:15 am
Hope all is well Amanda and you are able to start your attempt soon  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 15, 2016, 11:59:26 pm
Hope all is well Amanda and you are able to start your attempt soon  :thumbsup:

She started this morning and I Rode with her for a good part of the day. When I left she was well over 200 miles and still hungry for more  :o

(Update- 250.14 miles- https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1170226835 (https://connect.garmin.com/modern/activity/1170226835) )
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: paul851 on May 16, 2016, 07:09:01 am
250 miles in 12 hours  :o it will be interesting to see if this is just first day exuberance or is she going for Kurt's record as well .


Paul
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: fboab on May 16, 2016, 08:25:12 am
Lordy!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on May 16, 2016, 08:49:18 am
Stunning debut! This should be interesting.

She's very much following Kurt's style (and location – repeats around Flatwood Park), but even faster and further.

I've updated the OYTT/HAM'R/Guinness visualization page to show Amanda and Kajsa's progress - http://gicentre.org/oytt
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rabbit on May 16, 2016, 05:34:09 pm
Wow amazing Amanda! :D

Keep it up, and best of luck for the year.  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 17, 2016, 01:07:01 am
230.3 today!

https://www.strava.com/activities/578519402
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: fboab on May 17, 2016, 07:25:47 am
:o
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 17, 2016, 08:20:14 am
:o
This one is going to be too exhausting to follow.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on May 17, 2016, 08:32:34 am
According to a local Tampa rider who was with Amanda on day one, she was with only around 5 riders most of whom weren't pulling, so this really is quite some achievement.  I do hope she's going for the WR.

Amanda's and Kajsa's ride objectives are quite different in many ways but at the rate she is going Amanda may well overtake Kajsa's annual total before the end of 2016. I wonder if this will encourage Kajsa to up her miles over summer. An interesting year ahead I think.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rafletcher on May 17, 2016, 11:50:13 am
Amanda's and Kajsa's ride objectives are quite different in many ways but at the rate she is going Amanda may well overtake Kajsa's annual total before the end of 2016. I wonder if this will encourage Kajsa to up her miles over summer. An interesting year ahead I think.

I think, as you say, their objectives - and therefore their motivations - are quite different. And so are their backgrounds, with Amanda having already done plenty of long distance riding. So I would anticipate little change from Kajsa - there's no chance (IMO obvs) of her doing repeated 200 mile days - not least, as we noted during Kurt's and Steve's rides, because the terrain and (generally) weather are vastly different, but so are their aims.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on May 17, 2016, 11:58:32 pm
Alicia posted a video from the first day. It's set as public

https://www.facebook.com/alicia.searvogel/posts/10154122756692591

Amanda wanted to watch Kurt's butt for a while. Brief comment on whether she's going after Kurt's record. Nice humorous start.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 18, 2016, 02:49:58 am
Day 3- 232 miles

https://www.strava.com/activities/579655046 (https://www.strava.com/activities/579655046)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Jabba on May 18, 2016, 05:18:38 pm
Foly Huck  :o :o

Looks like this little bit of USAnia will become the new home of distance record breaking, watch out Kurt!!  ;D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 19, 2016, 02:55:49 am
Day 4- 238 miles.

https://www.strava.com/activities/580683146 (https://www.strava.com/activities/580683146)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on May 19, 2016, 07:51:31 am
I've just read more on Amanda's recent history (CMiller may wish to elaborate) which makes her record attempt all the more impressive. It would appear she is planning to stick to Florida all year round including the stifling summer months and breezy hurricane season.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Nuncio on May 19, 2016, 07:53:46 am
What a start!

(But lets not forget she's only done just over 1% in terms of time for the challenge. There will be uphill stretches, even if not many of them will be topographical.)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 19, 2016, 01:17:24 pm
I've just read more on Amanda's recent history (CMiller may wish to elaborate) which makes her record attempt all the more impressive. It would appear she is planning to stick to Florida all year round including the stifling summer months and breezy hurricane season.

In her own words from her FB "about" page- 

"I have been cycling competitively since the age of 16. At age 17, I was given a cycling scholarship to ride on a college team. During the next Summer in 2011, at the age of 18, I was hit from behind by a car traveling at 55 mph while riding my bike. My Dad, who was riding with me was also struck. I suffered a traumatic brain injury, spinal injury, broken leg, and numerous other tissue related injury. My Dad suffered a fractured spine. These injuries and resulting surgeries kept me from cycling on my college team and forced me in to a sedentary lifestyle for 2 years while my body tried to recover. It also greatly affected my entire family as my Dad was not able to go back to work. In 2015, in an effort to regain my fitness and reignite my cycling passion, my parents agreed to support me for a month while I rode 2,935 miles across the country solo on a bicycle. I successfully completed this attempt and returned home hungry for the next challenge.

I am now 23 years old. The UMCA Highest Annual Mileage Record was brought to my attention in late 2015. I feel that attempting this new record and at the same time breaking the documented world record set in 1938 might inspire others who have experienced similar setbacks in life. Recovering from a traumatic brain injury is no easy task but there is support available."
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on May 19, 2016, 01:27:02 pm
Oh My!  Nothing but impressive from this young lady.

Allez Amanda.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 19, 2016, 01:35:29 pm
I just realized that she left a few things out. Amanda's also been through shoulder reconstructive surgery, two clavicle surgeries, and heart surgery to repair a hole in her heart.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Clemo on May 19, 2016, 05:08:29 pm
Holy smokes!  :o

Wow, looking forward to watching Amanda's year.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on May 19, 2016, 05:21:14 pm
Crumbs!  Let's hope her body holds out for the year!  A very impressive start, with or without the broader context.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on May 21, 2016, 06:28:18 am
What are the updates on this challenge?

Amanda could take the rest of the week off and still be on World Record pace.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: NeilH on May 21, 2016, 07:53:36 am
What are the updates on this challenge?

Day 5 - 211miles, 11h11m moving time.

Day 6 - 231miles, 12h16m moving time.

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 21, 2016, 12:53:43 pm
What are the updates on this challenge?

Amanda could take the rest of the week off and still be on World Record pace.

My (unofficial) numbers as of day 6-

1392.7 Total miles
232.1 Daily Average
906.1 Over Womans Record Avg pace
142.3 Over Men's Record Avg pace


Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: zigzag on May 21, 2016, 01:01:13 pm
what an impressive start!! go Amanda!

as for your and your dad's injuries - it's so sad.. big and long hug from me for your drive and determination.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andyoxon on May 21, 2016, 01:33:15 pm
Yes very impressive, well done Amanda.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on May 22, 2016, 08:10:17 am
It is so refreshing to see a female attempt at a world record that ignores gender.

Some years ago when Paula Radcliffe was setting WR's, it was hypothesised that women marathon runners may be able to surpass the men.  Extrapolating from the reduction in women's WR marathon pace, it was possible to predict the year when they would beat the boys.  However, it seems that Paula's times were an anomaly.  The men kept on getting better, and the women haven't got close.

The arguments in favour of this gender neutrality (/advantage) were that the physiology women need to cope with extreme pain during childbirth might pre-suppose an advantage in endurance events.  It would be fascinating if Amanda could go further than Kurt and Steve.  Maybe even further than the great Tommy.

This would be the cat that put the pigeon into world sports.  What are the odds?  I reckon less than 5000 to 1.  Allez Amanda.

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: tonyh on May 22, 2016, 08:31:03 am
 A great big :thumbsup: to that!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on May 22, 2016, 08:40:32 am
I don't think pain tolerance is central to the challenge (although it can only help when things start hurting). Riders need a basic level of strength and aerobic fitness to be able to ride for long periods at 20mph, but unlike WR runners (even Marathon ones), they are not at their physical limits minute-by-minute. What will make or break an OYTT record attempt will be the endurance/recovery that will prevent longer term injuries from hampering progress. And critically, the mental fortitude to cope with 365 days of hard riding. For anyone who can pass the basic strength/fitness threshold, I don't see there is any reason to suppose a gender difference in the rest.

Gomanda!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andyoxon on May 22, 2016, 09:33:59 am
Getting fairly warm in the Tampa/Flatwoods area now; 30-32C for next week+.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: TimC on May 22, 2016, 09:49:52 am
As we saw from Kurt, Steve, Miles and Bruce, so far the record attempts have largely been about management and luck. While all these guys are amazing athletes, it's probably not unreasonable to say there are faster, stronger riders around. So, as yet, the records haven't so much been about the limits of athletic ability as about time-, equipment- and injury-management. So the scope for improving the record is most certainly there, and it's quite possible that it isn't yet at a level where strength and speed are the ultimate determinants. Until they are, there's no reason why a woman shouldn't hold the overall record.

Actually, I think it's unlikely this record will ever attract the very strongest cyclists who could push it to the point where male/female differences become relevant. (And I think that point was discussed before). It's probably a little bit too far off the mainstream for that - thank goodness! If it ever did, it would be about interminable laps of an off-road flat circuit (a retired motor racing track, perhaps) and the spectator interest would be seriously limited!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: woollypigs on May 22, 2016, 11:26:54 am
Fantastic riding!

I just just hope that starting so hard will not come back to haunt her. But this might be her taking it easy as she warms up, just like TG and Tarzan did.

Though as Auntie Helen said riding around in "circles" for a year would do my motivation/head in.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on May 24, 2016, 04:40:19 pm
Updates?

I don't have a Strava membership.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 24, 2016, 04:52:46 pm
Updates?

I don't have a Strava membership.

Here's a spreadsheet we're using to track her progress-
https://goo.gl/reemOY (https://goo.gl/reemOY)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on May 24, 2016, 05:16:11 pm
Updates?

I don't have a Strava membership.

See also the Visualizing the OYTT thread (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=87407.msg2032910#msg2032910) and gicentre.org/oytt (http://gicentre.org/oytt/) which I am currently updating daily.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on May 24, 2016, 05:27:55 pm
Here's a spreadsheet we're using to track her progress-
https://goo.gl/reemOY (https://goo.gl/reemOY)

I may have misinterpreted the spreadsheet but I think there may be a small error in the 'Womens Record Pace +/-' calculation that is underestimating Amanda's progress - see hidden column M which I would expect to have a fixed figure of 81.1 (Dovey's annual average daily distance) throughout. Unless this figure is showing something else?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 24, 2016, 05:34:58 pm
Thanks, Joe. I somehow screwed that column up.
Not a spreadsheet guy by a longshot...  :)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 25, 2016, 08:21:54 am
I almost hate to ask this question; does anyone know if Amanda is using other means of tracking and uploading her data other than strava?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andyoxon on May 25, 2016, 08:45:12 am
Link to spot tracker on here  http://www.ultracycling.com/wp_news/?p=1030
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 25, 2016, 12:26:54 pm
ty for the link.

I politely asked on the 'gomiles' facebook page if all logistical issues had been sorted but didn't get a response. No information about which adjudicating body Miles thinks he's using for his restart.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on May 25, 2016, 01:40:15 pm
But Amanda's spot tracker is not exciting to study as she goes round and round Flatwoods wilderness park.

On a different point .. we provided huge sums for Steve to see him thru his year .. although any residual surplus was going to an undefined charity .. ( and in my opinion there must have been a large amount in hand when he stopped ) .. would it be a nice gesture by Steve to support Amanda with a worthwhile sized donation... your views please.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: hulver on May 25, 2016, 02:16:35 pm
But Amanda's spot tracker is not exciting to study as she goes round and round Flatwoods wilderness park.

On a different point .. we provided huge sums for Steve to see him thru his year .. although any residual surplus was going to an undefined charity .. ( and in my opinion there must have been a large amount in hand when he stopped ) .. would it be a nice gesture by Steve to support Amanda with a worthwhile sized donation... your views please.
I would be quite happy for Steve to use that money to live on while he recovers from his attempt, my donations didn't have a mileage condition attached :)

If he has any spare though, I think that would be a good suggestion.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Basil on May 25, 2016, 03:13:13 pm
I don't have an opinion.  It's Steve's money.  He can do what he wants with it.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on May 25, 2016, 03:19:16 pm
I don't have an opinion on how Steve spends his money either. I do think we should resist the temptation to suggest how he might spend it though.

More generally, I'd encourage anyone hoping Amanda breaks the record to donate via her GoFundMe page (https://www.gofundme.com/goamandacoker)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: teethgrinder on May 26, 2016, 08:05:00 am
Fantastic riding!

I just just hope that starting so hard will not come back to haunt her. But this might be her taking it easy as she warms up, just like TG and Tarzan did.

Though as Auntie Helen said riding around in "circles" for a year would do my motivation/head in.

Looking at Amanda's rides on Strava so far, it looks to me that she'll be able to sustain what she is doing but there's no guarantee and I don't know all the facts.
What really gets you is the day to day grind that erodes your strength.
I wasn't taking it easy at the start, I had dark, cold and ice to contend with. Having to stop to check that the road ahead wasn't icy at night time did slow me down quite a lot. On one day I was riding with a journalist and at the end of the day I told him to stop very slowly. We were both riding on ice. We walked on the grass verge to get past it.
The real difference between Amanda, Kurt and I, is that Amanda got fit before she started. My original plan was that I'd get faster during the year. I did, but not by as much as I expected. Kurt also seemed to think the same as his original plan was that he'd get faster during the year. What Kurt actually did was to start faster than he expected, then slow down, then speed up again at the end. Kurt said that he wasn't especially fit when he started.
Amanda's circuit looks very good too. Generally, I think circuits aren't ideal because you're guaranteed a headwind and I prefer to fight the wind when it's eased off in the evening rather than in the middle of the day when it is stronger. But Amanda's circuit looks to be well sheltered from the wind and very flat. Perhaps too flat? I (and a number of others) think that very gently undulating is better. But it seems to be working for Amanda.
Whether Amanda can keep it going remains to be seen, but from my point of view, I think she can.
The fact is that nobody knows the best way to do a Year Record attempt and all we have so far is theories and ideas that haven't been properly tested and nowhere near enough attempts taken place to have any real data to work from. I think it will take at least 20 years before we have any real clues, let alone know the best way.
Speed does make a difference but also so does the number of hours you can ride per day without doing too much. There's a balance between the two. I think I may have worked out my limit for number of hours, but then again, that isn't certain. I think that Kajsa was, and probably still is at her limit for number of hours per day, even though she is spending as many hours riding as I was resting. Kajsa did have a very hard time during April and into early May. I saw first hand what she was going through and it really was very tough, but she has pulled through. I expect that some people don't think that Kajsa's mileages are very impressive by comparison, but all things considered, I have a lot of respect and admiration for Kajsa.
It's not impossible that Amanda could go through something similar. Kurt also had a hard time after several months, whereas I had a forced break. Sort of.
I wonder if I could actually ride an hour or two longer each day if I was stronger. Not something I would account for in planning going by the information I have so far, but it can't be ruled out.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 26, 2016, 08:25:52 am
Amanda also has something else going for her; youth.

She's very young and that does help considerably with recovery. Young people heal and recover more quickly.

It's also true that the mental fortitude to tackle super-long-endurance events tends to come with experience and age. Only time will tell if Amanda has this.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 26, 2016, 05:24:45 pm

It's also true that the mental fortitude to tackle super-long-endurance events tends to come with experience and age. Only time will tell if Amanda has this.

She's got it, and in spades. I know it's rare for an ultracyclist her age, but as strong as she is on the bike there's no doubt that mental toughness is her biggest strength.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on May 27, 2016, 07:39:36 am
Apologies, a mini-rant on its way...

I must admit to being a little surprised at how little attention Amanda's WR attempt is getting from here and elsewhere. And I can't help but feel that gender may have something to do with it. I realise it's early days, but then so was Steve's and Kurt's and Miles' and Bruce's at the start and they seemed to have received much more attention. It is instructive to read the first few pages of the Kajsa thread which mentions the fact that her (relatively) modest target of 81 mpd may be the reason her rides were not capturing the attention that Kurt and Steve did. Now we have an outstandingly determined and strong athlete who is demonstrating a consistency and pace not seen by any other other modern rider. She may blow up in month three, which is a testing month for any OYTT challenger, not least in the stifling heat and humidity of a Florida July, but surely she's worth a little more cheering on the way? I notice that on Strava, Steve still received more than five times as many 'likes' for his seven minutes on the turbo trainer as Amanda did for her 233 miles on the same day.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: tonyh on May 27, 2016, 08:36:58 am
Yes.

Go Amanda, that's astonishing performance!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 27, 2016, 08:41:42 am
Apologies, a mini-rant on its way...

I must admit to being a little surprised at how little attention Amanda's WR attempt is getting from here and elsewhere. And I can't help but feel that gender may have something to do with it. I realise it's early days, but then so was Steve's and Kurt's and Miles' and Bruce's at the start and they seemed to have received much more attention. It is instructive to read the first few pages of the Kajsa thread which mentions the fact that her (relatively) modest target of 81 mpd may be the reason her rides were not capturing the attention that Kurt and Steve did. Now we have an outstandingly determined and strong athlete who is demonstrating a consistency and pace not seen by any other other modern rider. She may blow up in month three, which is a testing month for any OYTT challenger, not least in the stifling heat and humidity of a Florida July, but surely she's worth a little more cheering on the way? I notice that on Strava, Steve still received more than five times as many 'likes' for his seven minutes on the turbo trainer as Amanda did for her 233 miles on the same day.
Some of us are scared to comment much in case she blows up.  I check on her several times a day on facebook.

I'd really love to see her take Kurt's record (all due respect to Kurt, I grew to really appreciate his attitude and humour throughout his year). It would be fantastic to see the record stretched further. If Amanda did this, it would be a huge two fingers in the air to the opponents of full-length pro races for women.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Chris S on May 27, 2016, 08:43:01 am
More likely the novelty of HAM'R has worn off. We all have a much shorter attention span these days.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 27, 2016, 08:43:47 am
I've put money towards Amanda's attempt but I've never ridden with her and am unlikely to ever meet her. I'll never go on Facebook and haven't done the Strava thing since she started, so the only information I have about her progress is here. There is no personal connection, so it is hard to feel too involved.

What is there to be said? She is going great guns right now but it is too early to call. Bruce started impressively too but fell in a screaming heap (for a couple of reasons). Remember, Kurt wobbled badly about 3 months into his year.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on May 27, 2016, 09:05:49 am
I'm thinking much the same. I dont really have a *reason* to be following Amanda in detail.

- Steve was a mate,
- He was breaking new ground,
- He was riding through places I knew (inluding my parish!).
- Kurt was "the opposition", so his progress was interesting (but his routes and other details rarely were).
- Steve and Kurt tried out most of the main variables, which we all debated at length, but we pretty much exhausted those debates*

- I got bored of the details of Kurt AND Steve later on. It was all just more 200+mile days, retracing known roads.

So I dont have anything _against_ Amanda's attempt - it's just not exciting me. I cant help that. :-\



*Steve's post yesterday backs this up a bit; there isnt enough evidence available to sustain any more detailed debates on tactics.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Fidgetbuzz on May 27, 2016, 09:11:42 am
I've put money towards Amanda's attempt but I've never ridden with her and am unlikely to ever meet her. I'll never go on Facebook and haven't done the Strava thing since she started, so the only information I have about her progress is here. There is no personal connection, so it is hard to feel too involved.

What is there to be said? She is going great guns right now but it is too early to call. Bruce started impressively too but fell in a screaming heap (for a couple of reasons). Remember, Kurt wobbled badly about 3 months into his year.

Match you .. and agree with you.  YACFers ..  can we find a few bob to help her .. her funding target is tiny compared with the support we poured into Steve.

Anybody settling in to a 365 day 20mph 215/220 miles a day challenge is a real endurance athlete . and deserves at the very least least huge respect .. if not a few bob to help.

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Ivo on May 27, 2016, 09:13:09 am
I must admit that Amanda's ride excites me more as Kajsa's. Kajsa is riding in territory I'm completely familiar with, 150-200km/day. So that's not a *real* challenge. Amanda's rides are more of the superhuman kind.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on May 27, 2016, 11:22:28 am
I'm thinking much the same. I dont really have a *reason* to be following Amanda in detail.

- Steve was a mate,
- He was breaking new ground,
- He was riding through places I knew (inluding my parish!).
- Kurt was "the opposition", so his progress was interesting (but his routes and other details rarely were).

I made an effort last year to support Steve, because I have ridden with him and I wanted him to have personal success.

It is precisely because I followed the efforts last year that I have a passing interest in Amanda's attempt.  However, I wont be doing the daily thing.  I wish her all the best, and will follow from a distance.  Part of me is trying to resist the temptation of the daily ritual of voyeurism.
Allez Amanda
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rafletcher on May 27, 2016, 12:13:04 pm
I150-200km/day. So that's not a *real* challenge. Amanda's rides are more of the superhuman kind.

Really? for 365 days straight? I'd call that a challenge.

As to Amanda's attempt, I just have no empathy with her as I'm not (like others) on facebook etc and have little knowledge of her. And frankly it's boring. Herculaen, but boring. Nothing to do with gender, I barely followed Kurt apart from Jo's graphs. And at least with Kajsa we get the occasional vlog to amuse and update us.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on May 28, 2016, 07:45:59 am
Amanda has been keeping a brief daily diary on Facebook if you want to find out more about how she's doing. You don't need a Facebook account to read it:  https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andyoxon on May 28, 2016, 08:20:40 am
Wondering why on the Strava elevation profile for Amanda's rides e.g. Dy13 there is a gradual increase in elevation; the altitude for a position near the beginning of the ride is say 20m, and at the end of the ride, for the same place, 46m?   Atmospheric pressure?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on May 28, 2016, 08:54:50 am
Yes, gradual change in air pressure during the day. A GPS experiment from 10 years ago (http://www.staff.city.ac.uk/~jwo/landserf/audax/elevation).
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Feline on May 28, 2016, 12:01:16 pm
I am watching, just not posting as I don't have anything earth shatteringly exciting to say  ;D

Good luck Amanda! I will be truly amazed if you can keep up the pace you've been doing so far  :o
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andyoxon on May 29, 2016, 08:20:04 am
Doing a back of the envelope calculation, for Amanda to do the 'Flatwoods loop' ~11km (and western approach road x2/dy) for the remaining 351 days, would require ~30 loops/day to get 76077 / 122434km.  I wonder if riding the same circuit for a year could be done - mind boggles.  I guess riding with others really helps. 
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rafletcher on May 29, 2016, 09:22:09 am
I guess it depends on your mental outlook more than anything else.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Morrisette on June 03, 2016, 09:16:14 am
I'm watching but not commenting much. I didn't comment on Steve or Kurt's attempts much either, I didn't have much to add as my idea of endurance riding is a commute in a north wind!

I had actually met Steve and he was riding places I know so there was more interest for that reason. Nothing to do with gender (I'm a girl myself :))

I am amazed at all these riders!!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Basil on June 04, 2016, 09:31:09 am
This is just astonishing.  Day after day Amanda piles on the miles.
I've not commented much as I don't really have any comprehension of what she is doing, nor do I have anything knowledgeable or interesting to add to the discussion.

Is she piling it on now in order to take it a little easier later in the year?  Or will she just keep going?
Is the human body and/or mind able to cope with a year of this?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: yanto on June 05, 2016, 09:16:25 am
First tropical storm of the season for Florida may affect Amanda in a few days http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php (http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/gtwo.php)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 06, 2016, 08:17:47 am
266!

She isn't slowing down
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 07, 2016, 04:18:23 pm
Amanda has been keeping a brief daily diary on Facebook if you want to find out more about how she's doing. You don't need a Facebook account to read it:  https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker

Facebookblockers at work now so can't follow  :(  Her mileage looks hugely impressive but, as others have pointed out, its a couple of months in when it seems to be hard to sustain.  Fingers crossed though and will follow this thread for info.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 08, 2016, 08:02:11 am
Her parents locked her bikes up and wouldn't let her ride!

Some little issue like tornadoes and stuff . . .

Storm abated later on so they relented and she fitted in a mere 160-odd miles for a short day.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on June 08, 2016, 11:41:49 am
Her parents locked her bikes up and wouldn't let her ride!

Some little issue like tornadoes and stuff . . .

Storm abated later on so they relented and she fitted in a mere 160-odd miles for a short day.

Soft
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: yossarian22 on June 09, 2016, 10:54:15 am
I don't know what all this miles stuff means.... but 377 km yesterday!  Jeez. Amazing
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: matthew on June 09, 2016, 02:44:37 pm
I don't know what all this miles stuff means.... but 377 km yesterday!  Jeez. Amazing

1 mile = 1.6 km approx.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on June 09, 2016, 02:47:53 pm
Jeez. Amazing

We had a year of superlatives last year.  I think that I am all superlatived out.  Words can't express ....

Of wait, there is a word for that.  Ineffable.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Ham on June 09, 2016, 03:42:01 pm
Jeez. Amazing

We had a year of superlatives last year.  I think that I am all superlatived out.  Words can't express ....

Of wait, there is a word for that.  Ineffable.

Sorry, that's not quite right, I can eff it.

It's fucking amazing.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 10, 2016, 08:09:07 am
Hwyl
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on June 10, 2016, 09:59:37 am
Hwyl


That's a great word.  Not sure I'll be dropping into casual conversation in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Gruby Mits on June 10, 2016, 02:03:03 pm
On the theme of enthusiasm - or perceive lack of it in the forum - for Amanda's attempt... good point to raise!

I was thinking about this ref Kajsa (lack of enthusiasm on the forum) if anything... since her attempt could have been outshined by the more impressive attempt so far and fame of Amanda, but that is just a background thought of mine.

Personally I have little to add, but I am following both women eagerly. I feel more empathy towards the attempt of Kajsa as it is closer to the way of the original record, as it was Steve's vs the more "speed-bare-bone" approach of Kurt and Amanda.

The British ones to me seem more of an adventure the overseas one more a professional race. Both are great and as impressive and admirable... is just what floats your boat I guess.  ;D

I do not think that if there is a lack of crowd clapping and cheering is due to Amanda being a woman, gender inequality is heavy in mainstream sports but would doubt it applies here (no issue of equal pay-sponsors or a lesser capable athlete right?! She is getting no retribution and is thrashing the previous male records so far it seems)
Maybe we have been spoiled with Steve, Kurt and now Kajsa to follow that the general attention is diluted and not the case of not interest in Amanda amazing progress, grit and guts?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on June 11, 2016, 09:34:04 am
The British ones to me seem more of an adventure the overseas one more a professional race.

On that note, does anyone have an idea of what the split is between miles cycled on the bent v the upright?

I was one of those that disliked the inclusion of the bent.  It went against my authenticity sensitivities.  But hey, I'm getting old.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: yossarian22 on June 12, 2016, 05:14:48 am
What an astonishing cyclist. At first look I thought the attempt looked unsustainable, mentally and physically.
But a look at her strava data shows that she is very familiar with the loop, has train up for the attempt and has plenty of company and support on her rides. Also she seems to be riding well-within herself.

Hardened, consistent, measured and tough.
I've got no doubt that TG's next attempt will have to target a distance greater than currently stands.

Part of me is sad. Long distance riding is "meant" to be something old people are better at, "endurance gets better with age". Not so sure about that now, and youth definitely recovers faster.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: TimC on June 12, 2016, 10:21:36 am
It may be that a slightly older athlete of Amanda's ability and talent could go further for longer than she now can, but she is demonstrating that extreme athletic achievement is essentially a young person's field. Of course there are a very few exceptions, but with all of our vicarious experience of elite athletic endeavour, whether on foot or on a bike, this shouldn't be a surprise!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on June 12, 2016, 10:30:01 am
Remember Tommy Godwin was 25 when he set the record. Endurance is far from just an older persons game.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Citizenfish on June 12, 2016, 11:03:44 pm
Remember Tommy Godwin was 25 when he set the record. Endurance is far from just an older persons game.

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Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on June 13, 2016, 09:51:36 pm
Remember Tommy Godwin was 25 when he set the record. Endurance is far from just an older persons game.

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Nee to read your book again :-)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 14, 2016, 10:35:53 am
Just looking at Amanda's average riding speed  - 19.21mph - a month in and, if Kurt and TG were anything to go by, if she was starting to feel the strain, it would begin to show now.  This attempt looks like it could go the distance.  Allez Amanda.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: yossarian22 on June 16, 2016, 12:59:02 pm
Yes, it could go the distance. + more. Allez Amanda!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on June 16, 2016, 01:09:38 pm
She seems to be opening up a bit more on her Strava reports, which shows more of the human side.  I think this will get her more followers.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 18, 2016, 11:06:51 am
She's reporting no soreness and is still wacking out consistent mega miles. Seems in really high spirits as well.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on June 18, 2016, 03:28:39 pm
She's reporting no soreness and is still wacking out consistent mega miles. Seems in really high spirits as well.

She really is "in the groove" at the moment, physically and mentally. She's very much enjoying herself and is more relaxed than I've seen her since before the start. I know that her support crew (mom and dad) has a lot to do with that. There's nothing like having two fully dedicated parents acting as your crew 24/7 for the duration. 
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mzjo on June 19, 2016, 08:06:53 pm
Remember Tommy Godwin was 25 when he set the record. Endurance is far from just an older persons game.

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All the early pioneers of the french diagonals were young. I am not sure that George Grillot's tandem partner was much over 20 for Brest-Hendaye (will have to look that up, Roger Coffe or some name like that). They weren't doing it for 12months of course.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 22, 2016, 12:25:33 pm
Amanda seems to have settled into a steady routine, not tempted to go further and not showing signs of strain.  If she can keep cranking out the miles at 230 per day she will build up a good cushion for the occasional jour sans.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rabbit on June 22, 2016, 12:43:33 pm
Dumbfoundingly brilliant. No soreness? Oh to be young again  :D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Ian H on June 22, 2016, 12:48:30 pm
... a good cushion...

...No soreness?...

Sorry.  Having a silly five minutes.  I hope she keeps going.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Legs on June 22, 2016, 01:41:38 pm
Very impressive.  :D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on June 22, 2016, 04:29:36 pm
No soreness? Oh to be young again  :D

I don't care how young she is, she will be sore.

Brave enough to keep pushing through it.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 22, 2016, 08:36:51 pm
... a good cushion...

...No soreness?...

Sorry.  Having a silly five minutes.  I hope she keeps going.

Probably a Freudian slip. I'm suffering from a badly bruised behind at the moment courtesy of a slip in cleats prior to the Tan Hill 600.   :facepalm: :o
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Gabrielle260 on July 01, 2016, 10:24:09 pm
Amanda's efforts are amazing. What is really impressive is her efficiency- the difference between the elapsed time and riding time is very low. She's riding 220-230 miles with only an hour of stops. This is giving her more recovery time between each day of riding. I wonder if this will be her secret of success?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on July 08, 2016, 11:59:00 pm
It looks to me that she has seen what Tarzan did to succeed and has built on that.  She obviously has the determination and mental fortitude to keep going day after day.  I'm guessing that she is focused on 80k in 365 days.  The question will be how she copes with the rainy season and shorter days, where she will presumably have to do some riding under lights.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on July 09, 2016, 09:05:38 am
Florida is that close to the equator that the days won't shorten or lengthen all that much.

21st June: 6.30am - 8.16pm

21st December: 7.03am 5.35pm

So 10h 32m daylight on the shortest day. I understand Florida to be sunnier in the winter than in the summer.

She may do some darkness riding, but it won't be a lot.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on July 21, 2016, 12:34:23 pm
Updates on this challenge?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: TimC on July 21, 2016, 12:41:34 pm
Day 67 yesterday, 370.8km ridden. Should hit 15,000 miles today. It's going very well indeed!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: woollypigs on July 21, 2016, 12:46:26 pm
Follow her farcebook page, don't have to be member to read up. https://m.facebook.com/goamandacoker/ she is also easy found on starva.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: NeilH on July 21, 2016, 02:17:42 pm
And she passed the half-distance mark on the way to Billie Dovey's record a couple of days ago ... two-and-a-half months into her challenge.

https://www.strava.com/activities/646867709
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: The French Tandem on July 23, 2016, 05:32:08 pm
And she passed the half-distance mark on the way to Billie Dovey's record a couple of days ago ... two-and-a-half months into her challenge.

https://www.strava.com/activities/646867709


Someone could explain to me what is the meaning of the map shown on her strava page? She seems to ride on straight lines without following any real road.

Sorry if this is a dumb question!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew_s on July 23, 2016, 06:04:44 pm
She's riding round and round a 7 or 8 mile circuit at 20 mph and the Strava track is only showing 1 point every 10 minutes or so, which gives approximately 3 points per loop, which are joined by straight lines.
It may be that the info is coming from the Spot tracker rather than GPS downloads
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: The French Tandem on July 23, 2016, 07:22:38 pm
Thank you andrew!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on July 24, 2016, 11:51:32 am
She's riding round and round a 7 or 8 mile circuit at 20 mph ...

My god, the tedium of it all.

I hope you has something interesting on her mp3 player.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: DaveE128 on July 25, 2016, 12:26:08 pm
She's riding round and round a 7 or 8 mile circuit at 20 mph and the Strava track is only showing 1 point every 10 minutes or so, which gives approximately 3 points per loop, which are joined by straight lines.
It may be that the info is coming from the Spot tracker rather than GPS downloads
I think it's just the thumbnails on the activity feed that use simplified data, presumably to speed up the loading of the activity feed page. If you open the activity you should see an accurate map. Definitely works like that on the mobile app, anyway.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rafletcher on July 25, 2016, 02:10:02 pm
Strava appears to show an 11km loop is the main component of her ride.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew_s on July 27, 2016, 12:22:44 am
My god, the tedium of it all.
I can't disagree.
Possibly not as bad as doing a 24h on a velodrome (Marko Baloh, 3,615 laps, 903.76 km / 561.57 mi), but that's all you can say.

Anyway, the current score, as of last night (25th), is 16,361.36 miles in 72 days (227.24 mpd ave), not ridden less than 200 since 7th June.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: woollypigs on July 27, 2016, 07:33:02 am
... not ridden less than 200 since 7th June.
yeah what is this about, just a weee bit of bad weather and she runs and hides, tch tch shakes head in disapproval, it was only a little tropical storm (Colin) that hung around with its heavy rain, tornado warnings and wind gusts :)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on July 27, 2016, 08:34:39 am
To celebrate turning 24, she rode 240.

The mind boggles.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on July 28, 2016, 09:45:50 am
To celebrate turning 24, she rode 240.

The mind boggles.

I think I can see where you are going with this. 

In the same way that there is an Eddington Number (miles = days), maybe there needs to be a Coker number (years = miles / 10).

(Edited for math error pointed out below.)

Surely her Coker number for that ride would then be 10 (miles in a day / age in years).

I'm hoping to push mine up to 10 in a year or two, right now it's just 7.3
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Greenbank on July 28, 2016, 09:52:58 am
Surely her Coker number for that ride would then be 10 (miles in a day / age in years).

I'm hoping to push mine up to 10 in a year or two, right now it's just 7.3
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: cygnet on July 28, 2016, 03:54:03 pm
That penalises the older rider though.

e.g. my best is higher than when Wilko set his 541mile 24hr record (although his 525 in 1997 would give him a CN of 15.9)

Probably Jonathan Schubert would have the highest (I think 19.1 from the ESCA 2014).

/Digression

What Amanda is doing month in month out (rather than a single day) is jaw-dropping
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on July 29, 2016, 11:58:20 am
My CN is 6.8 (150 miles at age 22)

To beat that, I would have to ride about 350 miles*


* Risk Assessment: Impact 5; Likelihood 0; Overall Risk = No Chance!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on July 30, 2016, 08:03:22 am
Amanda's total is currently standing at 17,309 miles; Kajsa's is 18,194 miles. Based on their respective daily averages we should expect a 'catch' around next Friday.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on July 30, 2016, 07:00:43 pm
:o
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on July 30, 2016, 07:50:23 pm
Her daily average is about 227 miles and she appears to be consistently hitting 230 miles a day at the moment. Keeps this up, then definitely upping the ante.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on July 30, 2016, 08:56:15 pm
She is amazing. People described Kurt and Steve as being "machines" but Amanda really does seem to churn out these miles mechanically.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on July 31, 2016, 11:13:10 am
She is amazing. People described Kurt and Steve as being "machines" but Amanda really does seem to churn out these miles mechanically.
I would say she's churning them out with joie de vivre. Tales of water bottle fights, seeing her dad riding up ahead, sneaking up on him and dowsing him, dodging lightning strikes, spotting wildlife. She seems to be doing loops and extracting maximum joy out of it.

"To see a world in a grain of sand,"
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on July 31, 2016, 11:35:07 am
Maybe so. I haven't read anything other than the stark statistics, which are formidable indeed. If she is enjoying what she is doing then that augurs well for her ultimate success. There were times for both Kurt and Steve when they both had psychological barriers (more so for Kurt, I think - Steve's problems seemed more physical). It seems to me that Kurt thrives on the competition against others, and driving himself every day without a clearly-defined opponent was harder for him than it was for Steve, who is much more accustomed to his own company. If Amanda has the sheer joy and motivation of being out on the road and bashing out 22mph for 10 or 11 hours a day, then that is wonderful indeed.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: TimC on July 31, 2016, 12:19:59 pm
I agree. And she has the advantage of a fixed, off-road venue, which allows other people to come along and ride with her as regularly as they're able in a safe, unthreatening (other than bidons!) environment. Barring injury, there's no reason to suppose she won't smash the record to bits and put it well out of the reach of anyone other than a very serious - and probably young - athlete. When we were speculating last year about how you'd optimise the approach to this record, I think we pretty much described the way she is going about it. Professional, single-minded, determined and fuelled by massive ability and self-belief.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on July 31, 2016, 06:34:57 pm

She seems to be doing loops and extracting maximum joy out of it.

"To see a world in a grain of sand,"

You've hit the nail right on the head. This is exactly why she's been so successful to date. Being a freak of nature on the bike hasn't hurt either... :-)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rabbit on August 02, 2016, 02:31:15 pm

She seems to be doing loops and extracting maximum joy out of it.

"To see a world in a grain of sand,"

You've hit the nail right on the head. This is exactly why she's been so successful to date. Being a freak of nature on the bike hasn't hurt either... :-)

It is a fact that she has everything needed in bucketfulls! Positivity, genetics, support, good tactics and the weather.

I think it's great  ;D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: yossarian22 on August 03, 2016, 07:30:03 am
And don't forget she has a great support team.
And Nutella.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on August 05, 2016, 08:39:16 am
Amanda's total is currently standing at 17,309 miles; Kajsa's is 18,194 miles. Based on their respective daily averages we should expect a 'catch' around next Friday.
Catch is on for today.  Amanda 50 behind as of time of typing this.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on August 05, 2016, 02:49:23 pm
Catch is on for today.  Amanda 50 behind as of time of typing this.

I've a mental image of Kajsa pedaling faster and looking over her shoulder. 

Kind of like the breakaway being caught by the sprinter's trains, just before the line.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: wajcgac on August 05, 2016, 09:29:30 pm
Sorry for the double post but it is relevant to both threads

Don't forget that assuming Kajsa betters Billie Flemings distance, and Guinness don't renege on there promise to her, then Kajsa will have her own Guinness World Record no matter how many miles Amanda rides.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on August 05, 2016, 09:40:13 pm

Don't forget that assuming Kajsa betters Billie Flemings distance, and Guinness don't renege on there promise to her, then Kajsa will have her own Guinness World Record no matter how many miles Amanda rides.

Amanda *is* going after Guinness record and has been assured by Guinness that they will accept the UMCA certification for the record if she breaks it.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: wajcgac on August 05, 2016, 10:10:17 pm
It will be Kurt's Guinness Record or even another Guinness Record that Amanda will break on her current progress but not the Guinness record set by Kajsa (if she beats Billie Flemings record)

It's a mess to be honest.

After Kurt's attempt was completed Guinness decided that they would change their rules and accept Kurt's UMCA record as their own. This would imply that they would also be recognising Amanda's attempt as well for a Guinness women's record.

This was a month after Kajsa had started her own Guinness Record Attempt under much more stringent rules.
ie no drafting, no recumbents, same bike, no transfers etc.

Kajsa was rightly annoyed by this and sort assurances from Guinness that her record would stand as a Guinness Record. They agreed with her

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3_72NT930I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3_72NT930I)

just after 2 mins in is the important part.

Good luck to both of them and hopefully they'll both get the recognition they deserve.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on August 05, 2016, 10:49:52 pm
What I think she's talking about is Guinness's rules for the record when *they're* the certifying body. I've been told (multiple sources) that Guinness will also accept any UMCA certified yearly mileage record using UMCA rules and that no distinction would be made between records set under Guinness or the UMCA. Strange? yes, but that's Guinness for you...
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: wajcgac on August 05, 2016, 11:54:02 pm
What I think she's talking about is Guinness's rules for the record when *they're* the certifying body. I've been told (multiple sources) that Guinness will also accept any UMCA certified yearly mileage record using UMCA rules and that no distinction would be made between records set under Guinness or the UMCA. Strange? yes, but that's Guinness for you...

I'm sure what you are saying is not wrong for those entering under UMCA rules and Amanda will have Kurts Guinness record if she exceeds his total, but it's more confusing than that.

Kajsa has been in direct contact with Guinness as she explains in her video - she has been explicitly told she will have a Guinness record (if she exceeds Billie Flemings total)

Only those entering under Guinness rules (which do not allow drafting during the attempt or the use of a recumbent etc) will be able to challenge her record in the future.

There will effectively be two Guinness Annual Mileage Records.

As you say Strange? yes, but that's Guinness for you - I think a lot of people following these record attempts on here, including myself would agree with you.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on August 06, 2016, 12:26:16 am

Only those entering under Guinness rules (which do not allow drafting during the attempt or the use of a recumbent etc) will be able to challenge her record in the future.

There will effectively be two Guinness Annual Mileage Records.

I wonder if Kajsa or anyone else has this in writing? And if that's the case, I wonder what Guinness's rationale is for giving Kurt the record over Tommy (under obviously different rules) but then splitting the woman's record into two separate records?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on August 06, 2016, 08:09:28 am
That fact that Kajsa will finish several months before Amanda means that, assuming she breaks Billie Dovey's record, she will indeed hold the record. Assuming Amanda finishes hers an first place, then that is up to Guinness how the treat the records, but for most world records do they not have a chart showing all the record holders in chronological order? It's years since I looked at the GBOR.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on August 06, 2016, 09:41:23 am
Quote from: wajcgac
There will effectively be two Guinness Annual Mileage Records

As you say Strange? yes, but that's Guinness for you - I think a lot of people following these record attempts on here, including myself would agree with you.
Just to be contrary I don't think it strange at all. 2 unfit blokes riding knobbly tyred gas pipe MTBs a mile home from the pub can feel the benefit of drafting. To me it is eminently sensible to have a drafted and undrafted record. The process by which we seem to be ending up with that was a mess and reflected very badly on Guinness but if the promises are kept the result is the right one IMO.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Jaded on August 24, 2016, 10:35:17 pm
No updates on here for a while so I've looked at her spreadsheet...
23,000 miles after 101 days. That's a 228 mile daily average. Nearly 15k over the women's current record and 2k over the men's one.

This is awesome.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on August 24, 2016, 10:40:38 pm
According to FB passed Billie Fleming's record today.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on August 24, 2016, 10:53:17 pm
According to FB passed Billie Fleming's record today.

That's counting her training miles between Jan 1st and her start day in May. Miles that don't count towards the official record. If she stays near her current pace she should break it officially right about this same time next month.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: NeilH on August 31, 2016, 09:53:08 am
Amanda Coker - Day 108: Amanda cranked out a 406km (252mile) ride in 12hr 49min yesterday - most likely banking some extra miles ahead of the arrival of "Hurricane Gaston", according to some speculation in the Strava comments.

https://www.strava.com/activities/695029802
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: yossarian22 on August 31, 2016, 12:29:30 pm
absolutely extraordinary! amazing. astounding. incroyable!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on August 31, 2016, 05:17:59 pm
Yes indeed.  I did a 400k perm in a day this year, with the ride to the start control and back it was 277 miles.  It took me 21 hours.  i didn't ride the next day
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew_s on August 31, 2016, 10:32:38 pm
most likely banking some extra miles ahead of the arrival of "Hurricane Gaston", according to some speculation in the Strava comments.
Gaston is heading for the Azores, and never got near heading for Florida.
It's most likely that it was for Tropical Storm Hermine (https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2016/Tropical-Depression-Nine)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 01, 2016, 06:51:15 am
She's followed that up with 242 miles.

Are we sure she doesn't have motors in her legs?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: toontra on September 01, 2016, 08:34:04 am
If she carries on like this it will presumably put anyone off going for the record in the foreseeable future (unless it was for some sub-catagory - age, terrain, non-draftng, etc, etc...)?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on September 01, 2016, 08:55:28 am
Assuming she doesn't slow down, Amanda will have taken Billie Fleming's record in a little over 4 months.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Jabba on September 01, 2016, 11:33:01 am
 Has anyone checked that Amanda is 'real' i.e. human  :o ;D :o

Whilst the UCI have been scanning bikes at the Tour and Vuelta for motors maybe someone should scan Amanda  :D :D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Mr Larrington on September 01, 2016, 01:13:05 pm
most likely banking some extra miles ahead of the arrival of "Hurricane Gaston", according to some speculation in the Strava comments.
Gaston is heading for the Azores, and never got near heading for Florida.
It's most likely that it was for Tropical Storm Hermine (https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/atlantic/2016/Tropical-Depression-Nine)

A man has just been on the telly here talking of 9+ inches of rain already in the Tampa Bay area with more to come today and overnight.  Blowing a bit too.  Sounds like a day to stay in bed with a good book.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on September 02, 2016, 08:25:44 am
AC's weather induced 'day off' at DiznaeWorld had just the 55 miles to take her over 25,000 total.

[Edited to express that for me a 55 miler is yip, fine, job done, happy with that  :)]
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Mr Larrington on September 02, 2016, 01:51:52 pm
The weather map on the telly just now showed most of the eastern seaboard of USAnia dipped in red paint.  I'd be heading west as fast as my wheels could carry me1, only I suspect it's too late for Amanda to consider that option.

1: I am heading west as fast as my wheels can carry me, which is when they're not venting gas to the atmosphere of buried to the axles in a muddy ditch.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LMT on September 12, 2016, 07:05:00 pm
Currently 2376 miles up on Tarzan.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on September 12, 2016, 07:53:53 pm
Currently 2376 miles up on Tarzan.

That's against his daily avg for the whole year. She's up more than 3300 miles from where he was on his Day 120.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on September 13, 2016, 01:14:24 pm
Currently 2376 miles up on Tarzan.

That's against his daily avg for the whole year. She's up more than 3300 miles from where he was on his Day 120.

If she plans to step it up, then wow.

We've already seen that she has lifted in the last couple of weeks.  However, her strength is in consistency.  I reckon she'll keep it pretty flat.  IMHO the problem with Steve's attempt was some blue sky thinking about stepping it up over the summer (aka Tommy).
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on September 13, 2016, 02:22:22 pm
Riding in the UK makes a summer-loaded schedule more likely to work. January conditions are rather different to Jul-Sep.

(assuming a moped doesn't break one's ankle in the spring.)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 14, 2016, 09:36:28 am
she'sjust posted a 251mile day to mark 1/3rd of the way through the year.

Oh, and dodging an alligator on the road
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Morrisette on September 14, 2016, 10:23:45 am
I recall posting something about were we all sure that Tommy Godwin wasn't a machine sent from the future to make sure no one could ever break the record. After reading The Year* I revised this opinion to think that they had sent TWO terminators cyclotrons as Bennett must have also been one.

Now I think they're at it again and they've made a female version!!!


*which was great by the way!!!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Clemo on September 14, 2016, 11:38:26 am
I recall posting something about were we all sure that Tommy Godwin wasn't a machine sent from the future to make sure no one could ever break the record. After reading The Year* I revised this opinion to think that they had sent TWO terminators cyclotrons as Bennett must have also been one.

Now I think they're at it again and they've made a female version!!!


*which was great by the way!!!

This is funny   :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I have to say they have obviously made improvements to each version of cyclotron as Amanda is the best yet
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on September 14, 2016, 11:54:15 am
Ahem!

cyclotron
/ˈsʌɪklətrɒn/

noun
Physics

noun: cyclotron; plural noun: cyclotrons

an apparatus in which charged atomic and subatomic particles are accelerated by an alternating electric field while following an outward spiral or circular path in a magnetic field.


 :P
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on September 14, 2016, 03:07:15 pm
 cyclotron /"sVIkl<schwa>trQn/ n.M20. [f. CYCLO- + -TRON.]
1) Physics. An apparatus for accelerating with an electric field charged atomic particles revolving in a magnetic field.
2) Sport. An individual sent from the future to cycle excessive distances.

English is a fluid language, and new homonyms are introduced all the time.  ;)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Mr Larrington on September 14, 2016, 11:36:38 pm
Tropical Storm Julia has decided to batter mainland USAnia further north.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on September 15, 2016, 10:38:38 pm
Ahem!

cyclotron
/ˈsʌɪklətrɒn/

noun
Physics

noun: cyclotron; plural noun: cyclotrons

an apparatus in which charged atomic and subatomic particles are accelerated by an alternating electric field while following an outward spiral or circular path in a magnetic field.


 :P

Well Amanda does travel round in a circle in Earth's magnetic field. You can even see the initial acceleration track on her Strava map.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Morrisette on September 16, 2016, 10:01:04 am
Ahem!

cyclotron
/ˈsʌɪklətrɒn/

noun
Physics

noun: cyclotron; plural noun: cyclotrons

an apparatus in which charged atomic and subatomic particles are accelerated by an alternating electric field while following an outward spiral or circular path in a magnetic field.


 :P

Well Amanda does travel round in a circle in Earth's magnetic field. You can even see the initial acceleration track on her Strava map.

Exactly what I was thinking (ahem)!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on September 16, 2016, 08:59:07 pm
About 5-6 days away from exceeding Billie Fleming's record.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on September 17, 2016, 07:25:21 am
From her FB post, her grandma is also Swedish.  Something in the genes?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Pale Rider on September 21, 2016, 02:34:05 pm
About 5-6 days away from exceeding Billie Fleming's record.

Amanda posted on facebook to say she expects to pass Billie's record at 9am local time today.

So she's now done it - assuming today's ride is going to plan.

https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker/
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: TrevA on September 21, 2016, 02:47:37 pm
If she's beaten Billie's record, does that mean that Kajsa's record won't count - assuming that she too beats Billie's record?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 21, 2016, 02:50:26 pm
Kajsa is not going for the HAMR record, she is riding under Guinness rules.
Also, the record is only 'recorded' at the end of the attempt.

Kajsa will complete her year first, so she will be recorded (assuming she passes billie) as the new record holder by Guiness, regardless of Amanda's mileage.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: HK on September 21, 2016, 03:35:54 pm
Kajsa is not going for the HAMR record, she is riding under Guinness rules.
Also, the record is only 'recorded' at the end of the attempt.

Kajsa will complete her year first, so she will be recorded (assuming she passes billie) as the new record holder by Guiness, regardless of Amanda's mileage.

Given that Guiness have recognised Kurt's record I would guess they are going to have to do the same for the first women. So Kajsa claims holds the record to a few months then it goes to Amanda.

It must be very demoralising to be riding but already beaten.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on September 21, 2016, 03:54:29 pm
It may be that your first paragraph turns out to be true, but I don't think it is a given. At the point Kajsa embarked on the record, the Guinness requirements were much stricter than UMCA's (single bike, no drafting). When, after she started, Guinness subsequently recognised Kurt's record, Guinness got themselves into a bit of a pickle about what rules would be applied to Kajsa. Kajsa then agreed with them that she would continue her 'strict' version and has done since then.

It may be that Guinness will list records in different categories (e.g. drafting vs non-drafting), so we don't yet know how history will view the various attempts. Personally, I view Kajsa's attempt, assuming she goes further than Billie, as a 'moral record' in its own right and far from second best.

In some ways it is Alicia who is really caught between two versions of the record. She is following 'Amanda rules' but will be second to her in distance and although ahead of Kajsa, she will be under the more relaxed regime of UMCA.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Ian H on September 21, 2016, 05:17:40 pm

In some ways it is Alicia who is really caught between two versions of the record. She is following 'Amanda rules' but will be second to her in distance and although ahead of Kajsa, she will be under the more relaxed regime of UMCA.

Different age-group, though.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on September 22, 2016, 12:13:07 am
Local News Coverage- http://www.fox13news.com/good-day/206832964-video#.V-MQwBUq-Uo.facebook (http://www.fox13news.com/good-day/206832964-video#.V-MQwBUq-Uo.facebook)
                                 http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/zephyrhills-woman-overcomes-brain-injury-to-set-bicycling-record/2294569 (http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/zephyrhills-woman-overcomes-brain-injury-to-set-bicycling-record/2294569)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Clemo on September 22, 2016, 11:01:31 am
Local News Coverage- http://www.fox13news.com/good-day/206832964-video#.V-MQwBUq-Uo.facebook (http://www.fox13news.com/good-day/206832964-video#.V-MQwBUq-Uo.facebook)
                                 http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/zephyrhills-woman-overcomes-brain-injury-to-set-bicycling-record/2294569 (http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/zephyrhills-woman-overcomes-brain-injury-to-set-bicycling-record/2294569)
:thumbsup: Wow
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: HK on September 22, 2016, 11:32:51 am
It may be that your first paragraph turns out to be true, but I don't think it is a given. At the point Kajsa embarked on the record, the Guinness requirements were much stricter than UMCA's (single bike, no drafting). When, after she started, Guinness subsequently recognised Kurt's record, Guinness got themselves into a bit of a pickle about what rules would be applied to Kajsa. Kajsa then agreed with them that she would continue her 'strict' version and has done since then.

It may be that Guinness will list records in different categories (e.g. drafting vs non-drafting), so we don't yet know how history will view the various attempts. Personally, I view Kajsa's attempt, assuming she goes further than Billie, as a 'moral record' in its own right and far from second best.

In some ways it is Alicia who is really caught between two versions of the record. She is following 'Amanda rules' but will be second to her in distance and although ahead of Kajsa, she will be under the more relaxed regime of UMCA.

But Kajas has broken several of the Guiness rules as I believe Guiness altered their requirements as they decided to recognise UMCA.

Given the internet presence of both record attempts both riders and dot watchers know who has beaten Billie's distance. So even if Guiness were stupid enough not to recognise Amanda's record both Kajsa and the public know that the Guinness number isn't the world record which is what this is all about.

So yes, your point about moral victory is quite right.  If I was Kajsa I'd be doubly mortified to come in at third place. Which ever way you look at the attempts none of them are easy and they are all valid.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 22, 2016, 12:48:35 pm
It may be that your first paragraph turns out to be true, but I don't think it is a given. At the point Kajsa embarked on the record, the Guinness requirements were much stricter than UMCA's (single bike, no drafting). When, after she started, Guinness subsequently recognised Kurt's record, Guinness got themselves into a bit of a pickle about what rules would be applied to Kajsa. Kajsa then agreed with them that she would continue her 'strict' version and has done since then.

It may be that Guinness will list records in different categories (e.g. drafting vs non-drafting), so we don't yet know how history will view the various attempts. Personally, I view Kajsa's attempt, assuming she goes further than Billie, as a 'moral record' in its own right and far from second best.

In some ways it is Alicia who is really caught between two versions of the record. She is following 'Amanda rules' but will be second to her in distance and although ahead of Kajsa, she will be under the more relaxed regime of UMCA.

But Kajas has broken several of the Guiness rules as I believe Guiness altered their requirements as they decided to recognise UMCA.


No she hasn't, you are completely and utterly wrong.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on September 22, 2016, 12:55:34 pm
Guinness rules were always bloody stupid, which was why Steve went the UMCA route, pushing them towards an acceptable set of rules. Guinness have put themselves and Kajsa in an absurd position.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Citizenfish on September 22, 2016, 12:56:41 pm
Regardless of records etc... Remember that Billie did not set out to create a record. She set out to promote women's cycling. I firmly believe Kasja has embraced this as part of her quest, particularly with her sweat pledges. I would never consider one minute of her time on the road wasted as a result.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on September 22, 2016, 01:29:02 pm
^--- Good point well made.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rafletcher on September 22, 2016, 02:25:49 pm

But Kajas has broken several of the Guiness rules as I believe Guiness altered their requirements as they decided to recognise UMCA.


They (Guinness) did say they would change the rules to match UMCA some months into Kajsa's attempt (to accomodate Amanda's attempt), but when Kajsa complained - she'd been following the "no drafting, no recumbent" rules as originally agreed - they reverted to the original set for her record attempt. So Kajsa hadn't (and hasn't afaik) broken any Guinness rules at all. 


Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on September 22, 2016, 02:33:09 pm
Whoever passes the total first has got the record first, regardless of when their attempt finishes.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on September 23, 2016, 11:41:56 am
More local coverage- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ5NRNSmDWw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ5NRNSmDWw)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Polar Bear on September 23, 2016, 03:47:53 pm
Whoever passes the total first has got the record first, regardless of when their attempt finishes.

I don't agree.  The record is for an entire 365 days, not for who reaches a certain distance first.   Theoretically Amanda could stop now and Kajsa could put on a huge burst and pass Amanda's cumulative total to date.   However, eventually it is likely that Amanda will eclipse all existing distance records in a 365 day period but her record(s) will not be ratified until the 365 day period is completed.   

Kajsa will hopefully reach her target and gain the record upon completion of her 365 days, Amanda will have her reward when her 365 days is ended. 

Having met Kajsa she is a very motivated person who has set out to achieve something in her own way and is doing it.   I believe that she has the requisite admiration and respect for Amanda but she is not competing with her - something that many people seem to think otherwise about.   There is some deja vu about all this nonsense.

Incidentally, I think that you will find that Kajsa has not broken the Guinness rules once.   There was an issue early on when Guinness made a mess with their own rules which required them to clarify but Kajsa was never in breach and remains thus.   

Both riders should be respected, celebrated and admired for their own achievements. 
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on September 23, 2016, 04:04:03 pm
I've said nothing about Kajsa and rules.

Amanda is the current women's year record holder. Suggesting anything else is incorrect.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 23, 2016, 04:04:29 pm
Being technical and pedantic, nobody has any record until they've submitted their claim and had it ratified.

Last week I ran so fast to catch the bus, I broke the 100m world record. What, doesn't anyone believe me?

We've been here before.

None of us (I believe) doubt that Amanda has been putting in the miles. I believe she's been complying with the HAMR record-keeping requirements. So there is no reason to believe that she won't be awarded a HAMR woman's world record when she submits her records.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on September 23, 2016, 04:12:00 pm
She is +2700 miles on Kurt's (average?) pace so if she carries on like this, she will be THE world HAM'R holder.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Polar Bear on September 23, 2016, 04:21:56 pm
I've said nothing about Kajsa and rules.

Amanda is the current women's year record holder. Suggesting anything else is incorrect.

My post was in response to more than one post from more than one person.

A claim has been made that Kajsa has broken the Guinness rules which she has not.

A claim has been made that Amanda is the new record holder which is undeniably incorrect as her 365 day mileage has yet to be ratified.    Indeed, we don't even know what her 365 day mileage is yet and it's going to be a very long autumn and winter before we do.

The current women's record is still in the name of Billie Fleming nee Dovey.   This is irrefutable.

Now, can we get back to actually watching in awe at what Amanda and Kajsa are achieving please?

She is +2700 miles on Kurt's (average?) pace so if she carries on like this, she will be THE world HAM'R holder.

Absolutely.  She WILL BE and her achievement will be undeniably awesome.   
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on September 23, 2016, 04:22:38 pm
Amanda has ridden more miles within a year than any woman ever. That is a record right now.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Polar Bear on September 23, 2016, 04:28:17 pm
It's a fact but not a ratified record.   There is a difference.   Can't you see this?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on September 23, 2016, 04:31:57 pm
It is a record, just not ratified yet. Can you see this?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Polar Bear on September 23, 2016, 04:39:40 pm
A record simply is not a record until it is ratified.   There is therefore nothing for me to see.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on September 23, 2016, 04:50:06 pm
Believe what you like. Two ladies are riding for their own amusement. Amanda is riding for the record.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on September 23, 2016, 04:54:46 pm
It's a fact but not a ratified record.   There is a difference.   Can't you see this?

The difference is somewhere between pedantry & philosophy.

These are both popular areas for discussion - not just on YACF - but I think we've done the debate here. You either agree with one side or the other, I think new evidence or arguments are unlikely. we could quote the UMCA position, or indeed the Guiness position, but some spectators will disagree with one or both.

(And I'm bored of it - can we get back to Gibbon talk?)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Exit Stage Left on September 23, 2016, 06:08:19 pm
The US TV coverage goes to show the importance of a broader story to tell. It's heartening to see Amanda get such pleasure from what she's doing, and to see her parents' joy in her achievement.
I'd certainly not begrudge her use of an off-road circuit, given her history.
The broader question of safety during such a record attempt is an interesting one. I've talked to people who can't believe that the Mersey Roads 24 takes place in traffic.
So I wonder what overall message about road cycling viewers will get from Amanda's ride.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on September 23, 2016, 06:43:30 pm
"The Record" is held by Billie Fleming. She alone has set a marker for the highest number of miles by a woman in one year. Of the three current protogonists, none has yet set a record, which must be a marker for future protagonists, because they haven't finished yet.

Anything could happen to any of the three during the coming months to stop their attempt in its tracks. I sincerely hope it doesn't, and that they all carry on doing what they are doing/want to do. But until they have set their final total for the year, and it has been ratified by the relevant authorities, they won't have set a new record.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on September 23, 2016, 07:16:44 pm
Believe what you like.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: sizbut on September 23, 2016, 07:29:35 pm
"The Record" is held by Billie Fleming.

Well said.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Jaded on September 23, 2016, 08:08:42 pm
"The Record" is held by Billie Fleming.

Hooray for a bit of sense.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Pale Rider on September 23, 2016, 08:31:57 pm
The record is about distance in a maximum allotted time.

Amanda has cycled the most miles in up to a year by any woman.

She could quit tomorrow, and, to suit the pedants, get her mileage ratified, but Billie's record is already broken.

Amanda doesn't have to cycle the full year, or every day, to be the record holder.

Looks like she may beat Kurt with anything to a month to spare.

Is she beats Kurt with 20 days in hand and then stops, will anyone seriously say she hasn't got the overall record?


Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Jaded on September 23, 2016, 08:34:46 pm
Yes. Until ratified.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: tonyh on September 23, 2016, 08:57:52 pm
You either agree with one side or the other

I disagree!
I agree with both!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Pale Rider on September 23, 2016, 09:23:23 pm
Yes. Until ratified.

This is not like the FA Cup where the only club that can hold the cup is the one to which the it's awarded to by the FA.

No body has exclusive rights to distance cycling records.

All ratification by some organisation or other does is provide extra support for the validity of the mileage covered.

Perhaps I'm gullible, but I believe the mileage declared by Amanda, Kajsa, and Kurt.

There's no doubt in my mind each has done the miles they've declared, so ratification is irrelevant.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on September 23, 2016, 09:51:45 pm
I too believe the mileages posted by Amanda, Kajsa and Alicia. However, if you consider that Amanda is now the record holder, I believe you also have to be able to state what her distance is. Because she is still piling on the miles, you can't do that.

For a record to be of any value, there has to be ratification, and a target for future attempts. Take a look at the spreadsheets for Kurt's attempt last year. For whatever reason, there are discrepancy between the miles posted on there and his final, ratified, total. For all we know Amanda's total might need some adjusting as well.

Here is a hypothetical , and extremely unlikely, question. Suppose after reaching 40,000 miles, Amanda "declared" her attempt over and asked for her record to be ratified, and the UMCA agreed with that total and posted it as a new record. Could she then add on any more miles she happened to cycle in the year?

What about Steve's month attempt? If he gets that, but in the same time, Amanda cycles more miles within her year record, does he hold the record? Of course he does! We are pretty sure that Tommy Godwin posted some huge months in his year, but no one considers them the record, because he didn't enter a "Month" record attempt.

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Chris S on September 23, 2016, 10:11:37 pm
Didn't Kurt have to ride every day in order for the UCMA record to count? ISTR he had to get a few km in, even when he was on a drip dehydrated from the effects of food poisoning? This rather implies that it's a 365 day record, and nobody "wins" anything until they've ridden 365 consecutive days, but I know nothing about the rules they're riding to.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Jaded on September 23, 2016, 10:52:24 pm
Yes. Until ratified.

This is not like the FA Cup where the only club that can hold the cup is the one to which the it's awarded to by the FA.

No body has exclusive rights to distance cycling records.

All ratification by some organisation or other does is provide extra support for the validity of the mileage covered.

Perhaps I'm gullible, but I believe the mileage declared by Amanda, Kajsa, and Kurt.

There's no doubt in my mind each has done the miles they've declared, so ratification is irrelevant.

Ah, I see. Forest Green Rovers currently hold the FA Cup. Thanks for that.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on September 24, 2016, 08:53:32 am
You either agree with one side or the other

I disagree!
I agree with both!
Stirrer.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on September 24, 2016, 08:56:33 am
Didn't Kurt have to ride every day in order for the UCMA record to count? ISTR he had to get a few km in, even when he was on a drip dehydrated from the effects of food poisoning? This rather implies that it's a 365 day record, and nobody "wins" anything until they've ridden 365 consecutive days, but I know nothing about the rules they're riding to.

I've never heard of this rule. I don't believe Steve met it in the week after his accident.

And how would you define it?
"I got on the bike and rolled down our drive; Alicia caught me at the bottom and put me straight back on the stretcher."



Oh heck, I'm getting drawn in again ...  :facepalm:     :D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 24, 2016, 09:41:17 am
Yes. Until ratified.

This is not like the FA Cup where the only club that can hold the cup is the one to which the it's awarded to by the FA.

No body has exclusive rights to distance cycling records.

All ratification by some organisation or other does is provide extra support for the validity of the mileage covered.

Perhaps I'm gullible, but I believe the mileage declared by Amanda, Kajsa, and Kurt.

There's no doubt in my mind each has done the miles they've declared, so ratification is irrelevant.
Ratification is irrelevant?

Really? I don't doubt amanda, kaysa or kurt, either. That's mostly because they are meticulous about recording their rides. They are upstanding people. And they are meticulous about recording their rides.

Ratification of records is important. It isn't irrelevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Pale Rider on September 24, 2016, 11:46:39 am
Yes. Until ratified.

This is not like the FA Cup where the only club that can hold the cup is the one to which the it's awarded to by the FA.

No body has exclusive rights to distance cycling records.

All ratification by some organisation or other does is provide extra support for the validity of the mileage covered.

Perhaps I'm gullible, but I believe the mileage declared by Amanda, Kajsa, and Kurt.

There's no doubt in my mind each has done the miles they've declared, so ratification is irrelevant.
Ratification is irrelevant?

Really? I don't doubt amanda, kaysa or kurt, either. That's mostly because they are meticulous about recording their rides. They are upstanding people. And they are meticulous about recording their rides.

Ratification of records is important. It isn't irrelevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst)

Crowhurst was more than 45 years ago.

You may have noticed some technological advances since then in the way a moving object can be tracked.

All posting about Crowhurst does is cast doubt on Billie, Godwin and the other records which were not fully witnessed.

Amanda has quite reasonably and properly claimed the record.

All this nit picking, hair splitting pedantry about terminology and ratification does is make those doing it appear to be sad, sour Little Englanders who are upset at losing the record.

Were the nationalities of the two women reversed, would there be the same whining and twisting on here?

Of course not.



Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 24, 2016, 12:20:36 pm
Pale Rider, yes technology has moved on, but that has not changed the *fact* that records are only records when run under the (arbitrary) rules of a body (HAMR, Guiness, etc).
A record is set when and only when that body says so.

Since I'm one of the people who congratulated Amanda on her Facebook page when she passed Billie's mileage, I don't think I'm a 'sad, sour Little Englanders'. Grow up and stop throwing insults.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Polar Bear on September 24, 2016, 12:30:49 pm
You couldn't be more wrong PR in your assessment of 'Little Englanders' though we do lack the arrogance to mouth off about what we achieve because we like to do things properly.   

As it stands Amanda does not hold a ratified record and no matter how rude you might wish to be, this fact will remain until Amanda finishes her year and seeks ratification of what should be a totally awesome and spectacular new record.

Little England will applaud Amanda's achievements as to do anything else would simply not be cricket.




Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on September 24, 2016, 12:35:07 pm
Amanda has already broken Billie's record. The question is by how much.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on September 24, 2016, 04:09:21 pm
What colour valve caps does she use?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: toontra on September 24, 2016, 04:59:38 pm
I don't doubt amanda, kaysa or kurt, either. That's mostly because they are meticulous about recording their rides. They are upstanding people. And they are meticulous about recording their rides.

Ratification of records is important. It isn't irrelevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst)

Rather a mixed message - saying you trust Amanda's mileages but then linking to someone who cheated!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 24, 2016, 05:08:03 pm
I don't doubt amanda, kaysa or kurt, either. That's mostly because they are meticulous about recording their rides. They are upstanding people. And they are meticulous about recording their rides.

Ratification of records is important. It isn't irrelevant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Crowhurst)

Rather a mixed message - saying you trust Amanda's mileages but then linking to someone who cheated!
I'm saying that's why ratification is important.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: simonp on September 25, 2016, 12:16:56 am
Ratification doesn't break the record, it only confirms it to be broken. 

Any adjustments to the distance are likely to be trivial compared to how far ahead of Billie Fleming Amanda already is. Each day the record she is setting increases.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on September 25, 2016, 03:43:46 am
Via UMCA-

"Amanda Coker's stats have been verified up to and including this week by Drew Clark, UMCA Records Chairman.

Some significant milestones:

On September 13, Amanda completed one-third of her year.

On September 21, Amanda surpassed the legendary Billie Dovey Fleming (29,603.7 miles).

On September 23, Amanda went over 30,000 miles.

Daily average is 229.1 miles per day.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on September 27, 2016, 08:12:18 pm
GCN piece on Amanda- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCK1ZK0a4kM&t=8m57s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCK1ZK0a4kM&t=8m57s)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: BSRU on September 30, 2016, 02:51:21 pm
I've read in another place that Kurt Searvogel has joined the board of the UMCA in order to change the rules on drafting and tailwind assisted riding in order to stop Amanda claiming his record(when she beats it) >:(.
No idea how truthful this information is.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on September 30, 2016, 04:15:26 pm
Doesn't sound likely to me.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on September 30, 2016, 04:37:16 pm
Doesn't sound likely to me.
Especially without any sort of citation.

Not sure I'm keen on this sort of gossip ...
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on September 30, 2016, 05:24:07 pm
Doesn't sound likely to me.
Especially without any sort of citation.

Not sure I'm keen on this sort of gossip ...

The first claim should be easy enough to verify.  Has Tarzan joined the board of UMCA?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Jacamo on September 30, 2016, 05:59:23 pm

The first claim should be easy enough to verify.  Has Tarzan joined the board of UMCA?

Isn't Hoppo a member here? He's on the UMCA Board of Directors and could confirm/deny.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: BSRU on September 30, 2016, 07:01:05 pm
Doesn't sound likely to me.
Especially without any sort of citation.

Not sure I'm keen on this sort of gossip ...

The first claim should be easy enough to verify.  Has Tarzan joined the board of UMCA?
According to the UMCA website he is not on the board of directors.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Polar Bear on September 30, 2016, 07:56:36 pm
I've read in another place that Kurt Searvogel has joined the board of the UMCA in order to change the rules on drafting and tailwind assisted riding in order to stop Amanda claiming his record(when she beats it) >:(.
No idea how truthful this information is.

I would have to strongly suspect that this is no more than the lower half of the internet doing what it does best.   I have never met Kurt but given how he is / has supported Amanda in a very public way it would be nothing short of a major surprise.   

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on October 01, 2016, 09:38:56 am
I've read in another place that Kurt Searvogel has joined the board of the UMCA in order to change the rules on drafting and tailwind assisted riding in order to stop Amanda claiming his record(when she beats it) >:(.
No idea how truthful this information is.
Sounds like complete and utter cobblers, seeing as his wife is riding to claim a UMCA record and occasionally rides with a tailwind.

Amanda is riding in a loop. How is that tailwind assisted riding?
Lower half of the internet talking with a clear farting sound.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Pale Rider on October 01, 2016, 03:41:12 pm
I've read in another place that Kurt Searvogel has joined the board of the UMCA in order to change the rules on drafting and tailwind assisted riding in order to stop Amanda claiming his record(when she beats it) >:(.
No idea how truthful this information is.
Sounds like complete and utter cobblers, seeing as his wife is riding to claim a UMCA record and occasionally rides with a tailwind.

Amanda is riding in a loop. How is that tailwind assisted riding?
Lower half of the internet talking with a clear farting sound.

I think the only raspberry is (possibly) being blown by Kurt.

It seems he is keen to hold on to his record and all was fine until Amanda proved herself capable of riding consecutive 220mile+ days, thereby eclipsing Kurt's wife's efforts and, very likely, his own.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on October 01, 2016, 05:39:19 pm
What's the evidence for this?

(everything I've seen recently from Kurt has been about the Trump-vs-Clinton show, but I might have missed something!)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Mr Larrington on October 01, 2016, 10:05:34 pm
AFAICT one unsupported post from someone who Stop Forum Spam have pegged as a known wrong'un.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: BSRU on October 02, 2016, 10:29:21 am
Stop Forum Spam have pegged as a known wrong'un.
No it doesn't.

It was not stated it was fact, it was clearly stated it was information from another forum and that it's truthfulness was unknown.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Mr Larrington on October 02, 2016, 02:41:20 pm
Stop Forum Spam have pegged as a known wrong'un.
No it doesn't.

I have it on impeccable authority that, in fact, it does.

It was not stated it was fact, it was clearly stated it was information from another forum and that it's truthfulness was unknown.

Didn't I say:
[...]one unsupported post[...]

Why, yes!  Yes, I did.  Presumably this post:

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Kurt Searvogel, likely upset that a woman (Amanda Coker) is currently kicking his arse and will probably take his HAMR (Highest Annual Mileage Record) from him, has joined the UMCA Board to have the rules changed on her! He has proposed changes that would restrict drafting and tailwind assisted riding to protect his record and those changes will be going to a vote very soon!

You read it here first!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on October 02, 2016, 03:02:47 pm

According to the UMCA website he is not on the board of directors.

You may want to go back and take another look.

http://www.ultracycling.com/sections/contact/ (http://www.ultracycling.com/sections/contact/)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: BSRU on October 02, 2016, 03:39:01 pm

According to the UMCA website he is not on the board of directors.

You may want to go back and take another look.

http://www.ultracycling.com/sections/contact/ (http://www.ultracycling.com/sections/contact/)
Thanks for the correction.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on October 02, 2016, 03:41:45 pm

According to the UMCA website he is not on the board of directors.

You may want to go back and take another look.

http://www.ultracycling.com/sections/contact/ (http://www.ultracycling.com/sections/contact/)
Thanks for the correction.

You were right at the time. They just updated the site to reflect the current make up of the Board.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: BSRU on October 02, 2016, 03:43:51 pm
Stop Forum Spam have pegged as a known wrong'un.
No it doesn't.

I have it on impeccable authority that, in fact, it does.

It was not stated it was fact, it was clearly stated it was information from another forum and that it's truthfulness was unknown.

Didn't I say:
[...]one unsupported post[...]

Why, yes!  Yes, I did.  Presumably this post:

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Kurt Searvogel, likely upset that a woman (Amanda Coker) is currently kicking his arse and will probably take his HAMR (Highest Annual Mileage Record) from him, has joined the UMCA Board to have the rules changed on her! He has proposed changes that would restrict drafting and tailwind assisted riding to protect his record and those changes will be going to a vote very soon!

You read it here first!
I stand corrected, due to my misunderstanding of your post.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on October 06, 2016, 10:04:19 pm
Is Hurricane Matthew going to have an impact on Amanda's progress.  They are talking about monster rainfall and winds, even on the outskirts of the storm?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: woollypigs on October 06, 2016, 10:12:56 pm
From her latest farcebook (about 19 hours ago)

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Day 144 ended with 221 miles! :)
With all the rain, and believe me it has been raining a lot, the rising waters are forcing the animals out into sight. It's like riding your bike through a drive thru zoo! Saw an otter, raccoon, a huge pig, snakes, turkeys, and a lot of deer.
At mile 155 my rear tire wall blew out, thankfully I was on a straight away. A slight delay but there's no need to sweat the small stuff.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Clemo on October 07, 2016, 09:09:20 am
I think the storm is to hit Florida about now (as of typing) so the effects are more likely to be felt today 7th.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: woollypigs on October 07, 2016, 12:22:14 pm
From her Farcebook (https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker/) about 10 hours ago

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Day 145 ended with 225 miles! :)
Today was the wet and windy beginning of hurricane Matthew. Going to have to wait and see what he throws at us tomorrow. You know it's pretty bad if they closed my favorite place...Disney World! This is only the fourth time in history Disney World has ever been closed... if that puts into perspective of how bad this hurricane is.
Stay safe everyone!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: woollypigs on October 07, 2016, 11:52:57 pm
more from Farcebook

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Day 146 ended with 100 miles of white knuckling wind gusts from hurricane Matthew. I gripped the handlebars so tight I got a few blisters on my hands, but I finally got an upper body workout. :)
Overall I think we got out pretty lucky as far as really bad weather. I did see some trees snap in the park and there is definitely going to be a lot of debris. Glad I stopped early because the winds were getting worse.
When did 100 miles become a short day?! ;)
Thanks for all the well wishes!

Only 100 miles rolls eyes :)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mcshroom on October 08, 2016, 09:39:59 am
Only 100 miles rolls eyes :)

;D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: hatler on October 08, 2016, 09:48:24 am
Slacker !
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on October 14, 2016, 07:58:11 am
Awful news for Amanda to cope with; a local rider whom she knows, who has ridden with her, been motivating her, has crashed while out riding on the loop and died.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on October 14, 2016, 12:18:10 pm
That's awful.  Sympathy to all affected.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on October 31, 2016, 10:12:32 am
It's all gone quiet on this thread which prompted me to have a look at Amanda's progress - she seems to be continuing to knock out 230+ mile days even as the amount of daylight reduces, and is getting close to half Kurt's annual distance in a good bit less than half a year. 
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on November 06, 2016, 08:42:09 pm
Over 40,000 miles, 175 days, going strong.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on November 07, 2016, 01:05:54 pm
Incredible.  Just astonishing.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on November 09, 2016, 06:03:09 pm
Amanda has just done 17 straight days of 230 miles plus.  Her projected mileage is now over 83,000, which imho is going to put this record almost out of touch.  She must have incredible mental strength to keep going 12 hours a day at this pace (thinking also that a lot of time trial specialists would be quite happy with 230 in a 12 hour) as well as an excellent support network.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew_s on November 09, 2016, 10:34:03 pm
Amanda has just done 17 straight days of 230 miles plus.
She did 17 days of 240 miles plus a while back, when in catch up mode after hurricane Hermine (days 113 to 129).
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on November 16, 2016, 03:45:11 pm
A sort of interview with Amanda.  It's so bad it's good!

https://youtu.be/RzGngjQOO5g?t=5m25s
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on November 16, 2016, 10:13:36 pm
That was painful.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Basil on November 16, 2016, 10:23:57 pm
That was painful.

Whilst also funny.  Watching it was one of those pain/pleasure things.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on November 25, 2016, 08:08:38 am
Still cranking out 230+ mile days - 25 days in a row now, I guess it's all in a days work.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Justin(e) on November 25, 2016, 01:39:33 pm
Still cranking out 230+ mile days - 25 days in a row now, I guess it's all in a days work.

I follow on the fb

Truly remarkable.  Allez
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Mr Larrington on November 25, 2016, 05:23:29 pm
Short day yesterday though, because Thanksgiving.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: La Tortue on November 27, 2016, 10:55:06 pm
Dropped in on Flatwoods park yesterday to see how Amanda was doing. I must say their entire set-up is perfect for this kind record setting.  Team Amanda is on cruise control, the logistics, track, and athlete are as good as it gets.  This loop is a very clean and smooth track which has to help with bike maintenance and safety.  Amanda is riding effortlessly at 20 mph.  Expect to see a new record come 15 May.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on November 27, 2016, 11:20:15 pm
Surprised she doesn't use the recumbent more, as on such a circuit surely she would cruise at a higher average.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: La Tortue on November 27, 2016, 11:43:04 pm
Here's a link with her on the Schlitter recumbent Friday.  Her father says she is faster on the diamond frame.  The recumbent is basically for saddle sore prevention.https://www.facebook.com/connie.swinson.3/videos/10210970694845579/ (https://www.facebook.com/connie.swinson.3/videos/10210970694845579/)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: yossarian22 on November 28, 2016, 12:57:20 pm
This is like watching History being written in paint and slowly drying.
But all the better for it. Bravo Amanda! Truly astonishing.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on November 28, 2016, 10:15:21 pm
I seem to remember someone writing about how the greatest sporting achievers made things look effortless - for example David Gower's languid shots were actually the results of a lot of practice but that practice made them look as if they were an innate ability.  Or for that matter the way a top runner seems to accelerate past or away from a pack and glide to the finish leaving the others trailing in their wake.  Or in another field - Sprinter Sacre's Champion Chase victory....  I suppose the big difference is that all of those are matters of hours or minutes and not a complete year.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: toontra on November 28, 2016, 10:28:43 pm
Assuming (and hoping) Amanda continues and completes the year of her challenge as she's going, it's surely looking increasingly unlikely that anyone in the foreseeable future will have the combination of location/climate/budget/equipment/support team/health and determination to surpass her likely target.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Laid Back Rich on November 29, 2016, 12:37:03 am
Assuming (and hoping) Amanda continues and completes the year of her challenge as she's going, it's surely looking increasingly unlikely that anyone in the foreseeable future will have the combination of location/climate/budget/equipment/support team/health and determination to surpass her likely target.

isn't that just what we were thinking as we were mesmerized by Kurt not so long ago?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on November 29, 2016, 12:55:22 am
No, I don't think it was. Kurt and Steve were both involved in a titanic struggle which looked, from the outset, as though it was going to be a very close-run thing. Had it not been for the moped driver, I still think it would have been.

Obviously, Amanda still has a long way to go, in terms of both miles and months, but the apparent ease with which she is bashing out these miles gives the impression of an athlete who is several levels above what we have seen before. Looking at Jo's latest map (Nov 10th) Kurt was still behind what was his final average. Amanda is 3500 miles (at least) ahead of it. She is about 7000 miles ahead of where Tommy Godwin was at the same stage.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andyoxon on November 29, 2016, 08:14:11 am
As toontra says, a good team set-up/location.  The summer heat looked to be coped with well, I guess it will now have made way for some more pleasant daily temps. 

Go Amanda, what an amazing continuing effort. 
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: teethgrinder on November 29, 2016, 04:43:28 pm
Here's a link with her on the Schlitter recumbent Friday.  Her father says she is faster on the diamond frame.  The recumbent is basically for saddle sore prevention.https://www.facebook.com/connie.swinson.3/videos/10210970694845579/ (https://www.facebook.com/connie.swinson.3/videos/10210970694845579/)
Dropped in on Flatwoods park yesterday to see how Amanda was doing. I must say their entire set-up is perfect for this kind record setting.  Team Amanda is on cruise control, the logistics, track, and athlete are as good as it gets.  This loop is a very clean and smooth track which has to help with bike maintenance and safety.  Amanda is riding effortlessly at 20 mph.  Expect to see a new record come 15 May.

I think it was Kurt who came up with the Flatwoods Park. From what I can tell, I think it looks very good. It looks like it's very sheltered from the wind and flat with no risk of ice. I'm not sure I'd say perfect. It seems to be prone to flooding and Amanda has had to cut a few days short because of storms, but definitely very good.
The other thing that I'm not sure about is the wildlife. Amanda seems to have had a few near misses with animals running out on her. I know she's had at least 4 crashes and I think I heard that in August, so she may have had more since. I think she also has some tough days as well.
Team Amanda don't really put anything out what is going on. We get little more than stats from Strava and no story, which makes her the least interesting of all year record riders to follow. The only thing that makes her worth following is that she is doing such a good job. Very consistent rides, but  they would be with very consistent conditions. I often heard people say that consistency is key, but I would argue that balance is key because you can only have consistency in consistent conditions, which even on the Flatwoods course, doesn't appear to be possible.
I'm guessing that Amanda will do about 83,000, maybe 84,000. She is getting faster. Not very easy to tell without knowing any expected changes in riding conditions. I doubt that Amanda is riding effortlessly; though I expect she appears to be; just as Andy Wilkinson has done on his record breaking rides.

 
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Here's a link with her on the Schlitter recumbent Friday.  Her father says she is faster on the diamond frame.  The recumbent is basically for saddle sore prevention.https://www.facebook.com/connie.swinson.3/videos/10210970694845579/

I'd have thought that would have been pretty obvious anyway. I did hear that people said I should have used a recumbent because they are much faster and that Kurt was using one. If they give such and advantage, how come Kurt didn't ride his all the time and neither does Amanda?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Kim on November 29, 2016, 05:18:36 pm
Given a flat enough course, a recumbent ought to have a speed advantage (though I remain sceptical that really fast recumbents are reliable enough for this sort of thing).  But as in all things, it's not just about the bike.  A primarily recumbent rider who was up to the job ought to do well on one, but first find your rider...

As in the real world, the recumbent's main advantage for a DF-trained rider is avoiding contact point issues.  Fair enough, I say.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: teethgrinder on November 29, 2016, 05:55:53 pm
Unfaired recumbents are about the same as a TT bike.
I rode a few miles with my coach on the month record. I was on my Raleigh and she was on a carbon road bike without luggage. I maintained my usual power output and going down hills I sometimes left her behind. She had to go close to 25mile TT pace to keep up with me down hills. I was carrying my Carradice where she just had a small bag for tools. She reckoned that my bike set up was about as good as a TT bike, though not as fast as possible as it's set to be more comfortable. The wheels are pretty fast, as are the tyres. My Aero helmet would have helped as well, where she was wearing a road helmet.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: La Tortue on November 29, 2016, 10:38:12 pm
(though I remain sceptical that really fast recumbents are reliable enough for this sort of thing).

Now there's a new one? Lots of  high mileage "really fast" recumbents have been smoking the roads for over ten years.  The Bacchetta CA2 is just the first one to come to mind.  The Schlitter Encore that Amanda rides is very similar to this design and there is no reason to suspect it isn't more than capable to knock out a 100,000 mile ride.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on November 30, 2016, 02:47:56 pm

I think it was Kurt who came up with the Flatwoods Park. From what I can tell, I think it looks very good. It looks like it's very sheltered from the wind and flat with no risk of ice. I'm not sure I'd say perfect. It seems to be prone to flooding and Amanda has had to cut a few days short because of storms, but definitely very good.
The other thing that I'm not sure about is the wildlife. Amanda seems to have had a few near misses with animals running out on her. I know she's had at least 4 crashes and I think I heard that in August, so she may have had more since. I think she also has some tough days as well.

Actually, Amanda has been a regular at Flatwoods Park since long before Kurt began his HAMR attempt. I introduced Kurt to the park early in his HAMR but he wasn't impressed at the time. I remember it being cold/wet/windy that day, so I'm sure that had something to do with it. He did ride there quite a bit towards the end and broke the record there, though. Amanda rode with Kurt almost daily during this time and put in more miles with him than anyone else while he was there. Riding with Kurt is when she got the bug and started thinking about going after the woman's record herself.

As for riding conditions at the park- the surface is in very good condition without any major defects, but it is definitely not well protected from the wind or the sun. It's a rare day when there are no or only light winds at the park and locals have given the loop well deserved nicknames like "Windy Woods" and "The Vortex". There is some relief from the winds during the summer months, but then there are the almost daily thunderstorms and temps that exceed 100 deg that she has to deal with. The major benefit Amanda receives from riding there is the lack of vehicular traffic. She suffered life threatening injuries in 2011 after being hit by a car and now has PTSD as a result. Riding the public roads for her HAMR attempt without a full-time follow vehicle isn't even an option for her.

And yes, she has has gone down very hard on a few occasions. While there isn't any vehicular traffic, some of the same clueless idiots who drive the roads around here also like to ride their bikes and/or run at Flatwoods.  Between these people, and the other wildlife, she always has to be on guard.

Team Amanda don't really put anything out what is going on. We get little more than stats from Strava and no story, which makes her the least interesting of all year record riders to follow. The only thing that makes her worth following is that she is doing such a good job.

This really just comes down to time. She doesn't have any.. She's as focused off the bike as she is on it and keeps to a strict refueling and sleep schedule to be able to recover well enough to what she does day in and day out.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on November 30, 2016, 03:04:38 pm
Team Amanda don't really put anything out what is going on. We get little more than stats from Strava and no story, which makes her the least interesting of all year record riders to follow. The only thing that makes her worth following is that she is doing such a good job.
I do enjoy her daily photos and little jokes on facebook. She or her team make a good effort to post something about other people riding at Flatwoods who have beaten their own personal daily mileage record, usually with a photo of the person, quite often taken with Amanda. Then there are photos of wildlife, ranging from snakes to coyotes and a wild hog.

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: teethgrinder on November 30, 2016, 03:28:01 pm

Actually, Amanda has been a regular at Flatwoods Park since long before Kurt began his HAMR attempt. I introduced Kurt to the park early in his HAMR but he wasn't impressed at the time. I remember it being cold/wet/windy that day, so I'm sure that had something to do with it. He did ride there quite a bit towards the end and broke the record there, though. Amanda rode with Kurt almost daily during this time and put in more miles with him than anyone else while he was there. Riding with Kurt is when she got the bug and started thinking about going after the woman's record herself.

As for riding conditions at the park- the surface is in very good condition without any major defects, but it is definitely not well protected from the wind or the sun. It's a rare day when there are no or only light winds at the park and locals have given the loop well deserved nicknames like "Windy Woods" and "The Vortex". There is some relief from the winds during the summer months, but then there are the almost daily thunderstorms and temps that exceed 100 deg that she has to deal with. The major benefit Amanda receives from riding there is the lack of vehicular traffic. She suffered life threatening injuries in 2011 after being hit by a car and now has PTSD as a result. Riding the public roads for her HAMR attempt without a full-time follow vehicle isn't even an option for her.

And yes, she has has gone down very hard on a few occasions. While there isn't any vehicular traffic, some of the same clueless idiots who drive the roads around here also like to ride their bikes and/or run at Flatwoods.  Between these people, and the other wildlife, she always has to be on guard.

This really just comes down to time. She doesn't have any.. She's as focused off the bike as she is on it and keeps to a strict refueling and sleep schedule to be able to recover well enough to what she does day in and day out.

Thanks. I did hear that she had a very serious accident and won't ride on roads but I don't think I knew about the PTSD. Kurt didn't seem to like the cold, which I think was why he came back to Florida at the end and it made all the difference when he did.
Lack of traffic does make a big difference. I reckon I lost 2-3 miles a day from stopping at junctions.

I can definitely understand the lack of time time. After a few days, everything seems to take a surprisingly long time to get ready. I was lucky that I had Idai putting stuff out, but it was always an effort to co-ordinate with my riding and we often had to cancel stuff because we couldn't be in the same place at the same time. We ended up fighting off the media because they always robbed me of riding time. Strava were OK. They had a freelance journalist (George Marshal, who came 5th in the 24 hr with just under 500 miles this year) ride with me to talk and take photos. It was hard enough for me to even talk to my team. We tried a bluetooth device for my phone but I only got it to work once (it's now battered just from being on my helmet for so many miles) A conversation that would normally take minutes could take several days.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: teethgrinder on November 30, 2016, 03:30:51 pm
I do enjoy her daily photos and little jokes on facebook. She or her team make a good effort to post something about other people riding at Flatwoods who have beaten their own personal daily mileage record, usually with a photo of the person, quite often taken with Amanda. Then there are photos of wildlife, ranging from snakes to coyotes and a wild hog.

Yes. She does have her 100 mile and 200 mile clubs, though it all seems to be at a local level. I can't blame her for that when she already has plenty to do. I had lots of occasions where I'd have liked to have taken photos for Facebook etc but didn't want to stop.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew531 on December 06, 2016, 08:25:19 pm
Anyone else who's following Amanda on Strava not seen her rides on their daily feeds recently? Perhaps she's changed her privacy settings?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: red marley on December 06, 2016, 08:45:28 pm
Seems fine to me. I can see her rides up to yesterday. Today's ride should appear early tomorrow morning.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew531 on December 07, 2016, 10:33:34 pm
Weird, seems I'm no longer following her on Strava and no means to do so! Not sure how this has happened. I haven't commented on her activities, just given daily kudos. Time to get Googling to sort this out!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: StevieB on December 22, 2016, 10:49:03 am
Weird... not long ago we were all agog at the efforts of Steve and Kurt, and now... nothing?
HAMR-fatigue?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Chris S on December 22, 2016, 10:53:36 am
Weird... not long ago we were all agog at the efforts of Steve and Kurt, and now... nothing?
HAMR-fatigue?

Probably inevitable. There's only so much awe one can extract from someone riding a bike round in circles, day in day out; no matter how awe inspiring it might be. I check in occasionally and allow my jaw to drop at Amanda's achievements. And Kajsa's. And the others.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on December 22, 2016, 09:44:35 pm
It seems that the UMC's pages showing the progress spreadsheets aren't available either. That's a pain.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on December 22, 2016, 09:52:06 pm
She passed 50,000 miles in the last week. Knocking out 235-240 mile days at moment. Average 229.28 mpd and average speed just over 20mph.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: woollypigs on December 22, 2016, 09:54:25 pm
Hmm I see her daily on strava. Amazing stuff!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on December 22, 2016, 09:59:52 pm
It seems that the UMC's pages showing the progress spreadsheets aren't available either. That's a pain.

While not the official UMCA stats, these are accurate and updated at the end of each day-
https://goo.gl/reemOY (https://goo.gl/reemOY)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: StevieB on December 22, 2016, 10:58:52 pm
Thanks for the link.... (yea, I've run out of adjectives too!)

Steve succeeded in encouraging others to have a go,
but surely Amanda must be having the opposite effect!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on December 23, 2016, 08:06:58 am
And is currently posting a witty christmas ditty per day on facebook

She Is Some Machine
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on December 23, 2016, 08:23:10 am
She is smacking out these consistent daily mileages, got her regime and support nailed.  Drama free, little of the 'will (s)he, won't s(he)' questions and discussions of previous HAMRs.  222 days in, just short of 51k miles, unless she hits health issues looks like she will get a new record by a considerable margin.

Just phenomenal. 
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rafletcher on December 23, 2016, 10:37:52 am
Phenomenal, yes, but for the casual observer from a distance crushingly boring, which may go some way to explain the relative lack of interest.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on December 23, 2016, 05:51:18 pm
I think some of the world's finest athletes have been described as "boring". The same person winning all the time for years on end, with rarely a ripple in their performance, does lend a certain predictability. Bjorn Borg won Wimbledon 5 times and was described as "boring" by some. His matches against Gerulaitis and Connors were absolutely scintillating, as were many other of his performances.

It's not Amanda's performance that is boring, in my view. It's the fact that she merely provides the raw data and gives no background that would add some interest. Kurt had his pop tarts and the fact that, early on, his bikes kept breaking. Steve we know and love, communicated a bit via his team and this forum, and he became an international cult figure as a result of the Scandinavian interest. Kajsa's videos have been very amusing. But Amanda just churns out loads of miles, logs her data, eats, goes to sleep and doesn't tell us any more about it. That is the dedication of a true champion. Utterly single-minded and doesn't appear to care what anyone else thinks.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Kim on December 23, 2016, 08:26:10 pm
...which is what it now takes.  Even with a support team to keep people updated on developments, it's still mostly going to be eat-sleep-ride-repeat.

Kajsa's targeting of the Billie Fleming record put her in a different league, with enough time off the bike to make a proper go at the social media thing.  But then she always seemed more interested in inspiring people than in riding a long way on a bike.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Chris S on December 23, 2016, 08:37:14 pm
If you make an event all about the distance, then you can't be surprised when a machine with a heartbeat turns up and rides laps, like a machine!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on December 24, 2016, 10:16:17 am
Let's not forget who we voted Sports Personality of the Year three times ...
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Peter on December 24, 2016, 10:19:44 am
What you mean "we", paleface?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on December 24, 2016, 10:40:54 am
The "Great" British Public !!!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on December 24, 2016, 10:41:21 am
Let's not forget who we voted Sports Personality of the Year three times ...

You mean Britain's greatest ever athlete, the incomparable Andy Murray?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: road-runner on December 24, 2016, 11:08:43 am
You mean Britain's greatest ever athlete ...

I thought that might be Daley Thompson.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on December 24, 2016, 06:40:37 pm
There was a Graun article (which I didn't read) some time last week arguing the case. I would imagine it was very short on comparisons of athletes of years gone by and long on hyperbole. I had a quick look for it but it seems to have sunk to the silty bottom of whatever is to be found on the Graun's website.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew531 on December 24, 2016, 09:51:45 pm
Hope she continues to be strong. Perhaps not since Beryl Burton have we seen a top female rider out pace leading male riders in such a convincing fashion.
Has anyone else signed up to ride HAMR in 2017?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on December 24, 2016, 09:57:20 pm
And is currently posting a witty christmas ditty per day on facebook

She Is Some Machine

She's done 10x my distance this year, starting in May.  And I've managed an SR series and a few other interesting things this year.  I may have done as much climbing as she has though.   :o
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on December 26, 2016, 08:54:22 am
It seems she's only human after all:

Day 225 ended with 115 miles. :)
Merry Christmas everyone!
On the twelfth day of Christmas my parents said to me:
Take off Christmas Day (no way!)
You're never too old for Santa.
Who ate all the fruit cake?
It's chilly grab your jacket.
Gonna need more coffee.
Hold on tight it's windy.
50,000 miles.
Five months to go.
Break time we've got pizza.
Watch out for those turkeys.
Put on all your sunscreen.
And no more sprinting till May! 🎅🏼🎄🚲

https://www.strava.com/activities/811154018/shareable_images/map_based?hl=en-US&v=1482689123


(and a terrible poet ;) )
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on December 29, 2016, 12:36:45 pm
Yeah, a day off is 115 miles . . .
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on January 02, 2017, 09:56:35 pm
Yeah, a day off is 115 miles . . .

I've been known to take a day off to do 115 miles  ;D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on January 14, 2017, 11:31:05 am
Amanda now 2/3rd of the way through her year, 56k miles near enough, so if she carries on in the same way looks like she will be completing in region of 84k miles total.  You go girl.

[Corrected for typo, is now 56k+]
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on February 01, 2017, 07:31:32 pm
Went to check progress but HAMR leaderboard site was being reconstructed.  Tracked down the official spreadsheet to 25 January which showed 58821 miles, so by end of January she should have gone past 60,000 miles.  And, if she keeps trucking along at 230mpd would end up just shy of 84,000.  Time for a guess the new HAM'R?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: toontra on February 01, 2017, 09:10:35 pm
Yep - 60,000 passed on yesterday's ride.  I can see the daily averages gradually increasing towards the end of her year as the Florida weather improves.

How about 84,350
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 02, 2017, 08:45:26 am
She's really racking up the miles. Shortest day in recent weeks was 212 miles, and that was only because her parents locked up her bike for half the day (wouldn't let her ride until the winds died down a bit).
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on February 02, 2017, 10:30:00 am
84,444
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on February 02, 2017, 06:32:59 pm
83,950 miles
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Citizenfish on February 03, 2017, 01:58:13 pm
I am going to throw this one out there based on last year.

Kurt could have smashed many more miles out near the end but chose to stop at a respectable figure and push the record on a little more. Kurt was clever enough to know that the sacrifice to get to this level was extraordinary and there were a single digit number of real contenders to his crown.

I wonder whether Amanda's circuits (both neural and pedalled) will see her do the same. Say get to 80K and then step back with the job done, a year's work for anyone else and a spectacular achievement. Knowing full well that only one with her singular ability to repeat the same circuits has a "safe" hope. Our Steve has a much tougher ask without a similar UK circuit.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 03, 2017, 02:03:17 pm
I think Amanda is a little more obsessive.
So far, she hasn't had any 'blue' periods on facebook. Her parents have had to physically restrain her (lock up her bike) from going out in dangerous conditions.

If she passes the record, she'll keep going at the same intensity. I predict that if she passes 80k, she'll start increasing the miles per day, she won't slacken off.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on February 03, 2017, 02:10:33 pm
I'm inclined to agree. I suspect that she will put the record well out of reach of anyone for a very long time to come - provided, of course, that no mishaps befall her.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rafletcher on February 03, 2017, 02:12:52 pm
I'd agree with that too. In fact I think she'll have more trouble stopping than, say, achieving 85,000+
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Mr Larrington on February 03, 2017, 02:16:50 pm
I can see her going on to get the 100,000 record as well.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Chris S on February 03, 2017, 02:22:16 pm
Surely a person only has this level of sustained fitness once in their life? That being the case, she should (and I'm guessing, will) milk it for all she's worth.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: wajcgac on February 04, 2017, 12:13:43 pm
A year is too long a time to do something day in day out without it being an obsession, otherwise you'd get bored and pack up way before you got to the end.

The HAMR is an obsession for Amanda, probably more so than for Kurt, demonstrated by the fact that her rides have been so much more consistent without the ups and downs that Kurt had. Some, I know Kurt had due to mechanical/medical issues but there were others with doubts or loss of interest in what he was doing.

Amanda's stats for her ride posted today (Day 265) on Strava

https://www.strava.com/activities/854208147/analysis (https://www.strava.com/activities/854208147/analysis)

403.1km at an average of 34.1km/hr
Total ride time 12hrs 35mins with about 45 mins of stops.

When you look at the analysis of the ride she started off quite slowly (30kph for the first 50km) and gradually increased her pace, for the next 275km she averaged nearly 35kph.

She then increased her pace to average an incredible 38.4kph for the next 50km !,  before easing back towards the end of the day.

You can see that she had the company of some very capable fellow riders at times for this ride.

Her obsession for the HAMR (will and determination if you like), good support from Mum and Dad and other cyclists, and phenomenal cycling ability will mean that all being well she will beat the current record with over a month to spare.

There is no doubt in my mind that she will then keep going on a relentless mission to achieve the highest number of miles possible.

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: teethgrinder on February 04, 2017, 07:42:57 pm
I think she'll go for it at the end and take my month record as well as the year. If Amanda was just after the record she could ease back to 220 now and still comfortably get it. I reckon she'll do about 7,700 for the month record, probably on the last 30 days. I also think she'll run all 3 of her 3 free month record attempts concurrently, probably starting a week apart. She's far enough ahead that she can ramp it up at the end and if it doesn't work and she overcooks it, it won't make much difference overall.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on February 07, 2017, 03:30:49 pm
Surely she would have to apply before the start for a recognised 100,000 mile record or month?  I guess she can still apply to make Month 12, or 11, a big one to count.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on February 07, 2017, 03:33:02 pm
There is no official method to recognise a 100,000 record.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: jsabine on February 07, 2017, 03:44:43 pm
I thought when TG started his first attempt (or shortly after) that there was something from the UMCA that essentially said if he got close to the end of the year and decided he wanted to keep going for 100,000 miles, they'd find a means of recording/validating.

Quite possible I'm inventing things, of course.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on February 07, 2017, 04:01:11 pm
That is the right approach and is what would happen.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Citizenfish on February 10, 2017, 09:28:17 am
I asked them and the response was that they would continue to record but would not award as they do not have 100K as a category
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on February 13, 2017, 12:27:03 pm
If I've got my maths right she is well past 100,000km.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew_s on February 13, 2017, 03:17:01 pm
100,000 km is 62,137.119 miles, which went through about 45 min before the close of play last Wednesday (8th).
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: swampthing on February 14, 2017, 12:12:42 pm
Thanks to Amanda's very consistent daily routine and her clearly arranged progress spreadsheet it is quite easy to check which benchmarks she has passed:
(cf. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7Vgt7u4KC9bY1Lr4xOyd4VLkzQxi0c8ErqyFqBvnHk/edit#gid=2022488017 )

- During day 270 (February 8th) Amanda exceeded 100,000 km.

- Having cycled 63,333 miles (after February 13th) she will probably exceed Steve Abraham's 2015-mileage (63,609 miles) on February 15th (after 277 days).

- If she goes on at her daily average of 230.3 miles/ day she will beat Kurt Searvogel's record of 76,076 miles after around 330 days (which means she is still 55-56 days away).

She's really incredibly constant!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on February 21, 2017, 07:05:03 am
On that there Facebook AC says she will soon announce start date for her highest monthly mileage attempt.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on March 01, 2017, 09:20:08 pm
On that there Facebook AC says she will soon announce start date for her highest monthly mileage attempt.

I don't have Facebook but it seems that she's upped her mileage recently, last four days were 243, 250, 246, and 255. is the month record now on, or is she starting to up the pace now she only has 75 days to go?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew531 on March 01, 2017, 10:23:24 pm
Annoyingly I have inadvertently 'blocked' Amanda on Strava. Enjoyed seeing her daily updates. Doesn't seem to be a way to unblock on Strava.
Yes maybe she is upping the miles with the end in sight. Still some time to go though.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on March 02, 2017, 07:56:54 pm
And 250 yesterday, day 291.  Nothing further posted as yet about the month attempt.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on March 03, 2017, 09:45:58 am
She's really hit a sweet spot.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on March 03, 2017, 09:55:38 am
She's really hit a sweet spot.
She's on the home straight - less than 70 days to go.

Anyone could bang out 250/day if they knew they only had 70 days left.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on March 03, 2017, 10:06:45 am
Ofc ;D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Chris S on March 03, 2017, 02:58:21 pm
I was guilty of being a bit sneery and cynical early on. She's riding round in circles FFS, basically an outdoor track, in a forest, in the sub-tropics.

But the record is about distance, and distance alone - so why wouldn't you? I've revised how I feel about it because - 250 a day is fucking incredible, however you slice it.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 03, 2017, 03:03:13 pm
I agree. It's an amazing feat of endurance. The physical achievement is one thing, but in a sense I think that is rivalled by the sheer repetition of what she is doing. She must know pretty well every inch of tarmac/whatever surface.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Kim on March 03, 2017, 04:00:34 pm
I agree. It's an amazing feat of endurance. The physical achievement is one thing, but in a sense I think that is rivalled by the sheer repetition of what she is doing. She must know pretty well every inch of tarmac/whatever surface.

OTOH, that's still more interesting than many people's poorly-paid day jobs.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Citizenfish on March 03, 2017, 07:06:51 pm
I agree. It's an amazing feat of endurance. The physical achievement is one thing, but in a sense I think that is rivalled by the sheer repetition of what she is doing. She must know pretty well every inch of tarmac/whatever surface.

OTOH, that's still more interesting than many people's poorly-paid day jobs.

They have weekends off....
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Polar Bear on March 03, 2017, 08:27:13 pm
Not always.   Some jobs are shitty, long hours and very low paid.   Nearly 1 million in uk now on zero hours contracts.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: HK on March 07, 2017, 07:40:55 pm
I was guilty of being a bit sneery and cynical early on. She's riding round in circles FFS, basically an outdoor track, in a forest, in the sub-tropics.

But the record is about distance, and distance alone - so why wouldn't you? I've revised how I feel about it because - 250 a day is fucking incredible, however you slice it.
Having ridden a 1200 in Florida the weather isn't a piece of cake.  Most countries have weather issues, they just don't happen to be the same as the UK.

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Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on March 09, 2017, 08:14:00 am
Amanda has just clocked her seventh day in a row above 250 miles, so looks like she is capable of sustaining an unbelievable average of 250mph for the remaining 67 days, which would take her total close to 86,000 miles  (85,723 at 250mpd).  That's setting the bar high for TG.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: TheRedEyeJedi on March 09, 2017, 08:55:12 am
Personally I am not even comparing the two efforts now.   Amanda is doing it the best it can be done and its amazing.   TG is doing it way more traditional than it needs to be done which is also amazing.   

I think Godwins original record should still be Steves target and that would for me etch him into the great amateur cycling conversation for all time.

What Coker is up to is going to be hard for anyone to beat, no matter what they do - the mental strength she is showing is bordering on Zen master.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on March 09, 2017, 09:05:15 am
Personally I am not even comparing the two efforts now.   Amanda is doing it the best it can be done and its amazing.   TG is doing it way more traditional than it needs to be done which is also amazing.   

I think Godwins original record should still be Steves target and that would for me etch him into the great amateur cycling conversation for all time.

What Coker is up to is going to be hard for anyone to beat, no matter what they do - the mental strength she is showing is bordering on Zen master.
Agree with most of that!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on March 09, 2017, 09:13:23 am
I think TG could break Godwin's and Searvogel's records but probably not Coker's, though I'd be happy to be proved wrong.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on March 09, 2017, 09:50:08 am
Amanda has just clocked her seventh day in a row above 250 miles, so looks like she is capable of sustaining an unbelievable average of 250mph ...
You're right: I don't believe it ;D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 09, 2017, 02:20:51 pm

2/26/2017   288   250.6   66453.7   230.74   20.57   12.18   +43097   +6434
2/27/2017   289   246.6   66700.3   230.80   20.36   12.11   +43262   +6473
2/28/2017   290   255.3   66955.6   230.88   20.59   12.40   +43437   +6520
3/1/2017   291   249.8   67205.4   230.95   20.52   12.17   +43605   +6561
3/2/2017   292   252.3   67457.7   231.02   20.25   12.46   +43776   +6605
3/3/2017   293   250.4   67708.1   231.09   20.41   12.27   +43946   +6647
3/4/2017   294   253.3   67961.4   231.16   20.48   12.37   +44118   +6692
3/5/2017   295   252.2   68213.6   231.23   20.61   12.24   +44289   +6736
3/6/2017   296   255.1   68468.7   231.31   20.17   12.65   +44463   +6782
3/7/2017   297   250.5   68719.2   231.38   20.25   12.37   +44632   +6824
3/8/2017   298   254.2   68973.4   231.45   20.37   12.48   +44806   +6870


Amanda's last 11 days, yielding more than 2750 miles. She is now a month away from breaking Kurt's record, at those speeds. She is now knocking out 1000 miles every 4 days. 67 days left at that speed is another 16750 miles. We are looking at a new record in the region of 86000 miles. We haven't yet seen if she can increase her daily distance significantly beyond 250 for several consecutive days, but I certainly wouldn't bet against it.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: The French Tandem on March 09, 2017, 05:22:04 pm
What do all these numbers mean, Mr Wowbagger? For the first few columns, I guess it's date, day number, daily mileage, total mileage. For the rest, I have no idea!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: hatler on March 09, 2017, 05:25:07 pm
I reckon the subsequent figures are Average daily mileage, average speed whilst moving, average speed over 24 hours, distance beyond the Billy Dovey record at the same day number and distance beyond the Searvogel record at the same day number.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: wilkyboy on March 09, 2017, 05:34:11 pm
I reckon the subsequent figures are Average daily mileage, average speed whilst moving, average speed over 24 hours, distance beyond the Billy Dovey record at the same day number and distance beyond the Searvogel record at the same day number.

The columns of 12.x's is, I think, moving time (hours, decimal) — Amanda's riding only half the day, but at over 32kph, so her distances are mega!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: The French Tandem on March 09, 2017, 05:49:40 pm
I think Mr Wilkyboy is right, since 12.48hours x 20.37mph =  254.2 miles. Thanks for the explanation!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew_s on March 09, 2017, 06:01:50 pm
The numbers are from Cmiller's spreadsheet (link on about 3rd post of page 4 of this topic)
date,
day no,
mileage for day,
total mileage for year so far,
average miles per day for year so far,
average speed for day,
riding time for day,
miles ahead of Billie Fleming's record pace,
miles ahead of Kurt Searvogel's record pace
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: hatler on March 09, 2017, 06:08:51 pm
I reckon the subsequent figures are Average daily mileage, average speed whilst moving, average speed over 24 hours, distance beyond the Billy Dovey record at the same day number and distance beyond the Searvogel record at the same day number.

The columns of 12.x's is, I think, moving time (hours, decimal) — Amanda's riding only half the day, but at over 32kph, so her distances are mega!
Doh !  Of course.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 09, 2017, 06:13:03 pm
Sorry. Should have linked.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J7Vgt7u4KC9bY1Lr4xOyd4VLkzQxi0c8ErqyFqBvnHk/edit#gid=2022488017
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Martin on March 10, 2017, 12:36:32 pm
I think TG could break Godwin's and Searvogel's records but probably not Coker's, though I'd be happy to be proved wrong.

but one is no longer a record (unless there is one for riding in the UK only) and the other won't be in a few weeks; I think Steve's intention is to beat Amanda
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on March 10, 2017, 12:44:06 pm
It is possible to beat a historical record without beating the current record.

TG is already riding too slow and for too long each day to be likely to beat Coker, assuming she goes the full year.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andyoxon on March 10, 2017, 01:33:56 pm
AC is able to do 400km so quickly, she could probably even manage 485km (300mls)/day, until the end... and still get sufficient down time.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on March 11, 2017, 06:12:21 pm
Any doubts about whether she could ramp up the mileage - day 300 was 263 miles. I just get the feeling that 86076 (10000 more than the current record) might be the target.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 11, 2017, 06:17:24 pm
I hope she and her family/support team publish a load of stuff about this attempt. Steve's and Kurt's year were such great fun because we were all on here following them, and Steve's massive international fan club was one of the funniest things I've seen since having internet access. All we see is another set of mind-boggling data every day. That's precisely the right way to set an absolutely huge total, and I admire her enormously for her dedication and single-mindedness, but not knowing her state of mind, physical health and how many bicycles she has broken in the effort is a lot less fun.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: yossarian22 on March 12, 2017, 01:24:25 am
To be fair, the ride isn't about providing entertainment! There may be a dearth of information here, but plenty of interesting stuff on her facebook page. Certainly interesting how many alligators have cross her path so far in the year.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: La Tortue on March 12, 2017, 01:48:28 am
There may be a dearth of information here, but plenty of interesting stuff on her facebook page.

Speaking about a dearth of information, I keep dropping in here to see how Steve is doing and wondering if I've logged into the proper place.  Where can I find coverage?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 12, 2017, 10:23:10 am
To be fair, the ride isn't about providing entertainment! There may be a dearth of information here, but plenty of interesting stuff on her facebook page. Certainly interesting how many alligators have cross her path so far in the year.

The facebook page I have looked at has had nothing much posted since she started.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: phantasmagoriana on March 12, 2017, 10:52:24 am
To be fair, the ride isn't about providing entertainment! There may be a dearth of information here, but plenty of interesting stuff on her facebook page. Certainly interesting how many alligators have cross her path so far in the year.

The facebook page I have looked at has had nothing much posted since she started.

The one I follow is https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker/, which seems to be updated daily.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 12, 2017, 11:03:22 am
Thanks.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Bianchi Boy on March 12, 2017, 05:58:18 pm
I hope she and her family/support team publish a load of stuff about this attempt. Steve's and Kurt's year were such great fun because we were all on here following them, and Steve's massive international fan club was one of the funniest things I've seen since having internet access. All we see is another set of mind-boggling data every day. That's precisely the right way to set an absolutely huge total, and I admire her enormously for her dedication and single-mindedness, but not knowing her state of mind, physical health and how many bicycles she has broken in the effort is a lot less fun.

I quite agree and for this reason I hope Steve is going for the "Opposite Sex" record and is going to beat Kurt. That will make it achievable and risky that should make good reading. If Steve goes for 230 miles a day I feel that it is bound to fail (I hope I am proved very wrong, but I have a logical side).

So come on Steve - I am already addicted!

BB
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on March 13, 2017, 08:54:51 am
To be fair, the ride isn't about providing entertainment! There may be a dearth of information here, but plenty of interesting stuff on her facebook page. Certainly interesting how many alligators have cross her path so far in the year.

The facebook page I have looked at has had nothing much posted since she started.

The one I follow is https://www.facebook.com/goamandacoker/, which seems to be updated daily.
And today posted the news that she has passed 70 000miles

Still over 6k to go to pass the record, but 70 000 must feel like one heck of a milestone.

She's ridden over 260 miles in a day several times now.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: toontra on March 13, 2017, 08:58:07 am
70,000 miles reached yesterday.  Another 260+ day and still at an average speed of over 20mph.  Quite staggering - and there's still scope to increase the daily milage even further without running into sleep deprivation.

This is an amazing achievement, both in terms of the planning and the execution.  It seems as though there's barely been a hiccough all year (although no doubt there have been dramas behind scenes).
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 13, 2017, 01:29:16 pm
I am a bit surprised she didn't do something about those hurricanes...
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Bledlow on March 13, 2017, 02:37:00 pm
I hope she and her family/support team publish a load of stuff about this attempt. Steve's and Kurt's year were such great fun because we were all on here following them, and Steve's massive international fan club was one of the funniest things I've seen since having internet access. All we see is another set of mind-boggling data every day. That's precisely the right way to set an absolutely huge total, and I admire her enormously for her dedication and single-mindedness, but not knowing her state of mind, physical health and how many bicycles she has broken in the effort is a lot less fun.

I quite agree and for this reason I hope Steve is going for the "Opposite Sex" record and is going to beat Kurt. That will make it achievable and risky that should make good reading. If Steve goes for 230 miles a day I feel that it is bound to fail (I hope I am proved very wrong, but I have a logical side).

So come on Steve - I am already addicted!

BB
When the absolute record holder is a woman, there should, of course, also be a men's record.  ;D

That's what those tossers who pretended that the men who Beryl Burton had beaten held the real world records should have done.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: The French Tandem on March 16, 2017, 05:41:57 am
Only 245 miles yesterday. She's getting a bit lazy  :)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: T42 on March 16, 2017, 07:54:23 am
She should certainly get a gong for not going crazy with boredom.  Is a total lap count available somewhere?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: NeilH on March 16, 2017, 11:20:41 am
Only 245 miles yesterday. She's getting a bit lazy  :)

Must have been a recovery day ...  8)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Karla on March 16, 2017, 12:35:01 pm
When the absolute record holder is a woman, there should, of course, also be a men's record.  ;D

That's what those tossers who pretended that the men who Beryl Burton had beaten held the real world records should have done.

That only applied to one record, didn't it?  The tossers only had to wait two years anyway, as John Watson took the record back for the boys in 1969.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 17, 2017, 01:58:41 pm
Has Amanda officially started an attempt on the month record? She clocked up more than 4038 miles in the first 16 days in March. She stands a chance of beating Steve's month record by 1000 miles.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Citizenfish on March 17, 2017, 04:57:19 pm
Has Amanda officially started an attempt on the month record? She clocked up more than 4038 miles in the first 16 days in March. She stands a chance of beating Steve's month record by 1000 miles.

No ..but expect an announcement soon
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: toontra on March 17, 2017, 06:44:57 pm
She's had to ease off in the last couple of days due to the unseasonal sub-zero temperatures.

I expect the month challenge to be in her last 4 or 5 weeks (so very soon) so she can really empty the tank without it adversely affecting the remainder of her year challenge.  It will also be warmer - hopefully!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: wajcgac on March 17, 2017, 10:04:39 pm
Has Amanda officially started an attempt on the month record? She clocked up more than 4038 miles in the first 16 days in March. She stands a chance of beating Steve's month record by 1000 miles.

No ..but expect an announcement soon

Amanda's current rolling 30 day average is the highest it has been since her year attempt began at 397.7 km per day (247.1 miles per day). Despite not hearing anything official the recent plethora of 400km+ rides had me thinking that she had already started.

It's going to be some show when she finally puts some effort in  :)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: toontra on March 17, 2017, 10:13:48 pm
Amanda's current rolling 30 day average is the highest it has been since her year attempt began at 397.7 km per day (247.1 miles per day). Despite not hearing anything official the recent plethora of 400km+ rides had me thinking that she had already started.


According to the UMCA website there are no current attempts: https://www.ultracycling.com/highest-monthly-mileage-hmmr/ (https://www.ultracycling.com/highest-monthly-mileage-hmmr/)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Bondurant on March 20, 2017, 07:33:10 pm
It says on that site that she is starting the first of three overlapping attempts on 25th March.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Citizenfish on March 21, 2017, 06:23:35 pm
Yes her attempts are:-

March 25, April 8, and April 11
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on March 21, 2017, 08:03:41 pm
72,000 clocked up yesterday
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on March 21, 2017, 10:19:15 pm
That is an awful lot for one day!

I didn't specify the units, he he
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 21, 2017, 10:35:12 pm
That means that she should break Kurt's record on 8th April - unless she significantly increases her mileage when she starts her attempts at Steve's Month record.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 23, 2017, 09:15:34 am
Amanda's last 4 days have yielded 1022.5 miles.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Bobby on March 24, 2017, 11:42:20 am
Amanda's last 4 days have yielded 1022.5 miles.

 :o
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: toontra on March 24, 2017, 12:25:10 pm
260 miles in just over 12 hours yesterday.  There was a strong wind to contend with, apparently!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew_s on March 24, 2017, 02:35:24 pm
Maintaining the March average (253.2, currently) to the end of the year projects to 85945.7, and a month total of 7596.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: The French Tandem on March 24, 2017, 07:34:07 pm
That's a quite substantial number of miles for a lifetime of cycling, let alone a year!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Karla on March 24, 2017, 07:52:13 pm
That would scarcely more than 100 short of putting 10,000 into Kurt's record.  I'm sure she'll manage to find the extra.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew531 on March 24, 2017, 10:39:00 pm
Maintaining the March average (253.2, currently) to the end of the year projects to 85945.7, and a month total of 7596.

Well that puts my first 400 @ the end of next month into perspective!!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: yossarian22 on March 27, 2017, 01:33:11 pm
And that's 435 km for day 316. At 33.6 km/h moving ave for 13 hr in the saddle.  :o
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 27, 2017, 01:51:56 pm
According to the spreadsheet I linked to above that makes it another 2506 miles to beat Kurt's record. We are now getting into the realms of "even I would stand a chance of doing that by day 365". :D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on March 28, 2017, 03:30:28 am
Amanda's HAMR Month Record Stat Tracking- https://tinyurl.com/HAMR-Month
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Kim on March 28, 2017, 01:23:29 pm
According to the spreadsheet I linked to above that makes it another 2506 miles to beat Kurt's record. We are now getting into the realms of "even I would stand a chance of doing that by day 365". :D

Looks like you've set yourself a challenge :)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 29, 2017, 10:37:57 am
3/25/2017   315   264.6   73291.4
3/26/2017   316   270.6   73562.0
3/27/2017   317   264.4   73826.4
3/28/2017   318   267.1   74093.5

Amanda's last 4 days and current total. In 8 days she will overhaul Kurt.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Karla on March 29, 2017, 10:46:39 am
She's within 1000 miles of Godwin.  At this rate she should overhaul him on Saturday.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: The French Tandem on March 29, 2017, 12:38:47 pm
3/25/2017   315   264.6   73291.4
3/26/2017   316   270.6   73562.0
3/27/2017   317   264.4   73826.4
3/28/2017   318   267.1   74093.5

Amanda's last 4 days and current total. In 8 days she will overhaul Kurt.

She will break Kurt's record on day 326. That leaves another 39 days to push the record even farther  :o
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew531 on March 29, 2017, 06:26:00 pm
At the current mileage she could beat Kurt's record by 10,000 miles
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: HK on March 30, 2017, 01:46:02 pm
At the current mileage she could beat Kurt's record by 10,000 miles

And she has already put rather a lot into the ladies record!


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Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 30, 2017, 02:11:52 pm
I have to say that Amanda is riding this year absolutely brilliantly. A steady 230 miles a day for 10 months and then apply the rocket boosters. I make her last 5 days' total 1336.9 miles.

Unless she chooses to have another go, I doubt that her record will ever be beaten.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew_s on March 30, 2017, 02:35:03 pm
Unless she chooses to have another go, I doubt that her record will ever be beaten.
Never is a long time, but I think that any successful attempt would have to be on a similar basis - laps of a flat course with little chance of accidents, somewhere with relatively benign weather.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Bianchi Boy on March 31, 2017, 07:16:27 am
Unless she chooses to have another go, I doubt that her record will ever be beaten.
Never is a long time, but I think that any successful attempt would have to be on a similar basis - laps of a flat course with little chance of accidents, somewhere with relatively benign weather.
.....also with a support crew and someone to cook so they are well fed.

About the record, Amanda is a truly great rider and would leave me in the dust, but if a man did this like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Strasser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christoph_Strasser) and really set his mind to it I have no doubt it could be done. If you look at distance records the speeds men do are faster than women. In RAAM the fastest male speed is 16.42 mph and female is 13.32. This difference is also seen in other competitive cycling. Look at the CTT records. The only person to buck this trend was Beryl Burton who still hold the women's 12 hour record (she must have been the greatest champion of all time!). So if the record is to be broken it will be a male, 35 or under who has a racing pedigree and can ride consistently at 23mph so they get enough rest each day.

Quite a commitment.

BB
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: yossarian22 on March 31, 2017, 11:37:51 am
I'm not sure if being male is necessarily an advantage in this case.
And I don't think you can extrapolate from RAAM and other distance records.
HAMR takes a certain mindset, recovery, consistency, team-work.
I have no doubt if the record is to be broken, it is most likely to be a female, 30 or under.  ;D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: lahoski on March 31, 2017, 11:50:17 am
^this.

The 'male' physical advantage really diminishes on the year challenge. If Christoph Strasser had everything Amanda has then perhaps he would take it. However, that's just ifs. It means nothing. Until one of these super blokes (who are definitely much better than the wimminz) actually does it, it's all meaningless conjecture.

Amanda is absolutely incredible and her resilience - physically and mentally - is phenomenal.

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Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Karla on March 31, 2017, 01:47:20 pm
So if the record is to be broken it will be a male, 35 or under who has a racing pedigree and can ride consistently at 23mph so they get enough rest each day.

"Male under 30 with racing pedigree" certainly fits the mould of previous year record riders quite well.  There was Ossie Nicholson, the existing pro, and then Tommy Godwin who'd sat at or near the top of the domestic scene for several years and was looking at the Tour de France after his year record, except that the second world war got in the way.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 31, 2017, 01:52:01 pm
Emily Chappell has some very interesting things to say about this sort of thing.

http://thatemilychappell.com/2016/09/long-distance-ladies/ is a recent article, but there are several on this topic throughout this most excellent blog. WARNING: ONCE YOU START READING EMILY'S STUFF, YOU MIGHT BE THERE A LONG TIME!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Bianchi Boy on March 31, 2017, 06:22:00 pm
I'm not sure if being male is necessarily an advantage in this case.
And I don't think you can extrapolate from RAAM and other distance records.
HAMR takes a certain mindset, recovery, consistency, team-work.
I have no doubt if the record is to be broken, it is most likely to be a female, 30 or under.  ;D

What I was trying to say was that if a racing male sets his mind to it he will stand a good chance. The mind must play a large part in this and given that male under 30 are perhaps not consistent enough, maybe it is the mind that will overcome the physical advantage that men have.

BB
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on March 31, 2017, 06:53:17 pm
It is looking as though Amanda will overtake Tommy Godwin on day 322.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: The French Tandem on April 02, 2017, 07:23:33 am
It is looking as though Amanda will overtake Tommy Godwin on day 322.

75160 miles after 322 days.  Well done Amanda!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on April 03, 2017, 07:42:30 pm
It is looking as though Amanda will overtake Tommy Godwin on day 322.

75160 miles after 322 days.  Well done Amanda!

You hold an 'unbreakable world record' for 76 years and then in a couple of years, just like buses, a couple of people come along and relegate you to third. Chapeau Amanda.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on April 04, 2017, 03:00:30 pm
Kurt's record should be toppled tomorrow. I reckon he might smart a bit from that, but I don't think he's got it within him to have another go. I know he said something to that effect after his year ended, but not being the Top Dog any more might make him think about it.  ;D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 04, 2017, 03:36:42 pm
Kurt did something incredible; he broke the record they said was unbreakable.

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: tonyh on April 04, 2017, 03:48:45 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: TheRedEyeJedi on April 04, 2017, 03:52:13 pm
I posted this in the strava comments on Steve's ride yesterday...

"Steve beat Amanda cokers climbing total yesterday .... day 30 v day 323. Shows you what he is up against"

I really didn't mean it as a criticism of Amanda Coker but someone must have taken it as so as they blocked me on Strava!

Pretty sad and petty that I now cant follow her rides.   If you scroll back a page or two in this thread you will see I was nothing but complimentary of her attempt and I have often posted positive messages on her strava feed....its a strange world!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: IJL on April 04, 2017, 04:14:07 pm
Quote

I posted this in the strava comments on Steve's ride yesterday...

"Steve beat Amanda cokers climbing total yesterday .... day 30 v day 323. Shows you what he is up against"

I really didn't mean it as a criticism of Amanda Coker but someone must have taken it as so as they blocked me on Strava!

Pretty sad and petty that I now cant follow her rides.   If you scroll back a page or two in this thread you will see I was nothing but complimentary of her attempt and I have often posted positive messages on her strava feed....its a strange world!



It seems rather petty to block you for such a benign comment.  AC's rides are remarkable achievements but TG's efforts have an extra dimension being on the open roads and on roads many of us will know well.  It's easier to identify with someone who is riding in the same conditions as we are.  It does seem that there's a lot less posting in here than there was on the previous attempt
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: The French Tandem on April 04, 2017, 04:27:52 pm
Kurt did something incredible; he broke the record they said was unbreakable.

... but he didn't know it was unbreakable. That's why he broke it  ;)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on April 04, 2017, 04:47:19 pm
If us armchair observers are not permitted to compare and contrast the attempts what is left?
I also wonder what is the point in setting a record in such circumstances. Is not the point of a record to highlight that one athletes effort, compared to that of other athletes, is superior? Without that comparison what purpose does a record serve?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on April 04, 2017, 05:06:41 pm
If us armchair observers are not permitted to compare and contrast the attempts what is left?
Statements of numbers. That is what we are left with. Oh, and saying/posting "well done old chap" or "good jaaaarb dude!".




(fortunately some people love listing numbers. And collating them. And putting them in spreadsheets ...  ;D )
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on April 04, 2017, 05:31:56 pm
...  It does seem that there's a lot less posting in here than there was on the previous attempt
Because there is far less of the will she, won't she?  I watch her progress via her Facebook daily posts, remain in awe of her focus and dedication, but since a few weeks in when she settled into this daily rhythm, barring mishap / ill health the outcome has not really been in doubt.

Hers is one massive achievement.

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Feanor on April 04, 2017, 05:40:27 pm
...  It does seem that there's a lot less posting in here than there was on the previous attempt
Because there is far less of the will she, won't she?  I watch her progress via her Facebook daily posts, remain in awe of her focus and dedication, but since a few weeks in when she settled into this daily rhythm, barring mishap / ill health the outcome has not really been in doubt.

Hers is one massive achievement.

Agree with your points.

Sorry for the OT, but I was wondering how many people here knew what your username means in the Doric.
I'm guessing it *is* Doric, and not something else....
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: IJL on April 04, 2017, 06:05:08 pm
Quote
Quote from: IJL on Today at 04:14:07 pm

...  It does seem that there's a lot less posting in here than there was on the previous attempt



Because there is far less of the will she, won't she?  I watch her progress via her Facebook daily posts, remain in awe of her focus and dedication, but since a few weeks in when she settled into this daily rhythm, barring mishap / ill health the outcome has not really been in doubt.

Hers is one massive achievement

TBH I wasn't paying attention and I thought I was posting in TG's thread,  AC has it in the bag for now
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on April 04, 2017, 06:08:05 pm
Quote
Quote from: IJL on Today at 04:14:07 pm

...  It does seem that there's a lot less posting in here than there was on the previous attempt



Because there is far less of the will she, won't she?  I watch her progress via her Facebook daily posts, remain in awe of her focus and dedication, but since a few weeks in when she settled into this daily rhythm, barring mishap / ill health the outcome has not really been in doubt.

Hers is one massive achievement

TBH I wasn't paying attention and I thought I was posting in TG's thread,  AC has it in the bag for now

Dangerous talk! She still has to ride another 300 miles or so! There's also the matter of UMCA ratifying it. I know of no reason why they shouldn't, but then I wouldn't, would I?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on April 04, 2017, 07:00:33 pm
...  It does seem that there's a lot less posting in here than there was on the previous attempt
Because there is far less of the will she, won't she?  I watch her progress via her Facebook daily posts, remain in awe of her focus and dedication, but since a few weeks in when she settled into this daily rhythm, barring mishap / ill health the outcome has not really been in doubt.

Hers is one massive achievement.

Agree with your points.

Sorry for the OT, but I was wondering how many people here knew what your username means in the Doric.
I'm guessing it *is* Doric, and not something else....
Aye min, a north east chiel noo a lang wye f'hame!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on April 05, 2017, 08:58:35 am
75996.7. After 5 hours or so of today's ride she will have overtaken Kurt. With 39 days still to go. Chapeau!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on April 05, 2017, 10:09:11 am
75966.7
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on April 05, 2017, 01:20:10 pm
75966.7

Thanks for the correction. I dial an awful lot of incorrect phone numbers...
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on April 05, 2017, 07:20:41 pm
From Tarzan's facebook page:


Congratulations to Amanda Coker- Ultracyclist - HAM'R 2016, who has just broken my overall record for most miles ridden in a 365 day year. Alicia and I met Amanda back in Late November 2015 when we came to Flatwoods park to ride. She came out and rode with us every day I was in the park and I explained to her about the Hamr Record and how I knew she could set the women's record. Well she went a step further and now has surpassed my overall record. I was asked by a reporter how I felt, specifically if I was sad because I only held the record for 15 months. I said no, I knew I had to be the person to break the record, but once people knew it could be broken, and saw how easy it was to roll up miles at Flatwoods park it would only be a matter of time before a gifted and well disciplined rider that could ride in Flatwoods park all year long would break my record. Amanda still has a month to go so there is no telling how high the record will be.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Karla on April 06, 2017, 09:27:21 am
Total mileage so far: 76,233.9

Congratulations Amanda!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on April 06, 2017, 09:46:23 am
Astonishing achievement!  I look forward to see the total she posts at the end.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: tonyh on April 06, 2017, 10:47:24 am
From Tarzan's facebook page: [excellent message]

Already high respect for Tarzan increased further.

Massive congratulations to Amanda!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 06, 2017, 11:17:07 am
It has been pointed out on facebook that Kurt will continue to hold the HAMR for his age group.
I'm not sure that the UMCA recognises an overall 'highest' category, just records in each category.

Kurt is indeed a good sport.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on April 06, 2017, 01:27:48 pm
Chapeau Amanda
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on April 06, 2017, 01:40:45 pm
It has been pointed out on facebook that Kurt will continue to hold the HAMR for his age group.
As will Steve! (he's in the male 18-49 group IIRC) :)

I'm not sure that the UMCA recognises an overall 'highest' category, just records in each category.

I believe you're right, but I think there's an unspoken/implicit acknowledgement that the highest number is ... well, the highest number!  :P
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on April 06, 2017, 03:45:35 pm
A video clip from just moments after Amanda broke the record-
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8dIXUtb8U4QZERGalhHclNOX1U/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8dIXUtb8U4QZERGalhHclNOX1U/view)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 06, 2017, 04:14:35 pm
A video clip from just moments after Amanda broke the record-
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8dIXUtb8U4QZERGalhHclNOX1U/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8dIXUtb8U4QZERGalhHclNOX1U/view)
ty for that

I hadn't seen any vids of her bike for a while. Interesting that she's gone full disc on the rear and very aero on the front bars.

Read a discussion that said she rides the recumbent nearly 50% of the time, but any vids show her on an upright.
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Post by: Karla on April 06, 2017, 04:28:00 pm
She's riding a Trek Speed Concept.  Steve's bikes are being serviced by a Trek store - perhaps they could swap him one while no-one's looking?  :demon:
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Post by: Kim on April 06, 2017, 05:55:23 pm
Read a discussion that said she rides the recumbent nearly 50% of the time, but any vids show her on an upright.

I think she used it more at the beginning, but I heard she was only really using it to ward off saddle sores, as she found she did better on the upright.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on April 06, 2017, 06:18:55 pm
A video clip from just moments after Amanda broke the record-
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8dIXUtb8U4QZERGalhHclNOX1U/view (https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8dIXUtb8U4QZERGalhHclNOX1U/view)
ty for that

I hadn't seen any vids of her bike for a while. Interesting that she's gone full disc on the rear and very aero on the front bars.

Read a discussion that said she rides the recumbent nearly 50% of the time, but any vids show her on an upright.

Amanda has three bikes at her disposal- a standard road bike, a TT bike, and a recumbent. She spends time on each of them just about every day. The amount of time riding each varies day to day and there's really no set schedule or time target for riding any of her bikes.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on April 08, 2017, 05:46:05 am
Record passed, still keeps cranking out awesome mileages.  By my calculations at 260mpd for the last 37 days she would set a total of 86360  or 236.6mpd overall.

Her current Eddington number is 232 (232 rides of 232 miles or more) for the year, but it can only go up to a maximum of 233, because of the number of rides she's done around 233 miles.  She's reached 200 miles on 320 out of 328 days and 100 miles on 327 out of 328, which is astonishing consistency. 

It will take a very determined attempt by a very able rider to beat her record.
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Post by: LMT on April 08, 2017, 03:25:30 pm
Amazing effort and achievement, her and her team make it look all too easy - very well done.
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Post by: Phil W on April 09, 2017, 09:47:05 am
Message from Steve to Amanda

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6rN8WvXC-2A&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: LMT on April 09, 2017, 12:01:02 pm
Message from Steve to Amanda

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6rN8WvXC-2A&feature=youtu.be

Class.
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Post by: Wowbagger on April 09, 2017, 01:41:07 pm
Message from Steve to Amanda

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6rN8WvXC-2A&feature=youtu.be

Class.

He always was!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on April 11, 2017, 03:31:32 am
Been trying to find Godwins "fastest to 100,000 miles" record on the Guinness website, but having no luck. Does anyone know if Guinness certified Tommy's 100,000 miles in 500 days, or was it only certified by Cycling Magazine?

Asking for a friend :-)
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Post by: SoreTween on April 11, 2017, 08:22:22 am
I don't recall but the answer is certainly in Dave Barter's book (citizenfish on here). Search Amazon for 'year reawakening endurance'. Well worth the dead tree price IMO, in kindle form it it is simply too cheap to not have.
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Post by: Ian H on April 11, 2017, 11:34:24 am
I don't think Guinness was ever involved. Dave's book does have the answer, as I recall, but I won't be able to check for a few days.
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Post by: Citizenfish on April 11, 2017, 11:55:15 am
Been trying to find Godwins "fastest to 100,000 miles" record on the Guinness website, but having no luck. Does anyone know if Guinness certified Tommy's 100,000 miles in 500 days, or was it only certified by Cycling Magazine?

Asking for a friend :-)

Nope they didn't and only recognised his year record after Ken Webb lodged his fraudulent attempt. Remember the book wasn't around until 1955 and Tommy set it in 1940.

EDIT: Cycling magazine verified it as you correctly stated.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on April 11, 2017, 02:12:39 pm

Nope they didn't and only recognised his year record after Ken Webb lodged his fraudulent attempt. Remember the book wasn't around until 1955 and Tommy set it in 1940.

EDIT: Cycling magazine verified it as you correctly stated.

Thank you. I had a feeling this was the case.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andyoxon on April 12, 2017, 07:47:33 am
AC's new distance PR on day 332 (https://www.strava.com/activities/938461526), 446km @ 34km/h..! 
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: The French Tandem on April 12, 2017, 11:06:08 am
AC's new distance PR on day 332 (https://www.strava.com/activities/938461526), 446km @ 34km/h..! 

That's truly astonishing when you realize that back in 2015, the required daily mileage to beat the record was "only" 205 miles/ 330 km. Amanda will not just beat the record, she will push it into an area that was unthinkable just 2 years ago!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on April 12, 2017, 11:16:25 am
Amanda looks like pushing the record to 237.6 per day and an increase of 11646 miles over Tommy. Just riding that increase in a year would be a major undertaking.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: TheRedEyeJedi on April 12, 2017, 12:01:28 pm
AC's new distance PR on day 332 (https://www.strava.com/activities/938461526), 446km @ 34km/h..! 

That's truly astonishing when you realize that back in 2015, the required daily mileage to beat the record was "only" 205 miles/ 330 km. Amanda will not just beat the record, she will push it into an area that was unthinkable just 2 years ago!

I'm not sure it was unthinkable.

For me it seemed entirely plausible that a younger rider, with genuine professional ambitions or experience, supported on a closed circuit could absolutely destroy any previous attempt.

Personally I think 300 miles a day might be beaten at some point - the equipment and environment now exists to make this possible.   What we don't yet know is if anyone has the mentality to do it?   Amanda Cokers physical achievement is great - but her mental accomplishment is for me the biggest thing.   I don't think there have been many people who are mentally capable of these sort of distances in a year.   Many of those who have been capable have held the record or are having a go at it as we speak.   

I also think the record is unlikely to be taken on by too many people with racing pedigree unless it starts to reward them with either publicity or income.   Amanda Coker is probably in a unique situation due to her unfortunate injuries to be racing fit and racing age but not actually in a race team.

When you consider that in 1936 - Walter Greaves managed 45k miles it doesn't seem such a big jump to todays record ...... especially when you also consider that Walter was a social outcast (and a communist) with very little support around him.... and that he was a vegetarian in a time where there wasn't much veggie food available on the go....... oh, and he also only had one arm and piloted a very heavy, unmodified 3 gear bike and did much of his riding around the Pennines in pretty poor weather!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on April 12, 2017, 12:22:29 pm
...

When you consider that in 1936 - Walter Greaves managed 45k miles it doesn't seem such a big jump to todays record ...... especially when you also consider that Walter was a social outcast (and a communist) with very little support around him.... and that he was a vegetarian in a time where there wasn't much veggie food available on the go....... oh, and he also only had one arm and piloted a very heavy, unmodified 3 gear bike and did much of his riding around the Pennines in pretty poor weather!

Pockets...?  :P
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on April 12, 2017, 02:46:29 pm
a COMMUNIST?? By jove!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Greenbank on April 12, 2017, 02:52:12 pm
Everyone knows red cyclists are faster.
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Post by: clarion on April 12, 2017, 03:44:00 pm
;D :D ;D
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Post by: TheRedEyeJedi on April 12, 2017, 03:47:33 pm
a COMMUNIST?? By jove!

Self confessed!   Walter Greaves is definitely my favorite holder of the Year - its just a brilliant story of British weirdness.

Having to sacrifice recovery time in the evenings to constantly remove, check and replace his tires because a puncture was a fairly big issue for him!   These new competitors don't know they have it made - what with their two working arms and all.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew_s on April 12, 2017, 06:01:57 pm
Amanda looks like pushing the record to 237.6 per day and an increase of 11646 miles over Tommy. Just riding that increase in a year would be a major undertaking.
according to my calculator, assuming 260 mpd for the remaining days gives /only/ 236.66 mpd, and 265 mpd (which is what the concurrent months are running at gives 237.1 mpd
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on April 13, 2017, 09:04:43 am
You're probably closer, I filled out my spreadsheet with 270 per day at the start of the month when she hit that three days running.  265 looks a better number now.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on April 14, 2017, 03:22:59 pm
Officially official!

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/468637-greatest-distance-cycled-in-a-year-umca
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Manotea on April 14, 2017, 11:30:31 pm
The greatest distance ridden in a year.... in eleven months!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: zigzag on April 14, 2017, 11:49:17 pm
astonishing effort, congratulations!! the "real" world after the challenge is over will seem surreal.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on April 16, 2017, 07:16:19 pm
Just a thought, Amanda is covering about the same distance each day as most of us covered on the Easter Arrow on Friday.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Canardly on April 16, 2017, 07:23:03 pm
Wow.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on April 16, 2017, 08:09:04 pm
Just a thought, Amanda is covering about the same distance each day as most of us covered on the Easter Arrow on Friday.

And in about 2/3 of the time.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on April 18, 2017, 10:24:44 pm
At 267mpd, the last three days average, she will reach 86,616 miles for a year and would need only another 50 days to bring up the 100,000 should she decide to continue, a full 85 days less than Tommy Godwin.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on April 19, 2017, 06:59:47 am
If I recall The Year correctly it would be slightly false to compare Tommy's performance beyond 365 days. It was no accident that he took exactly 500 days. I'm not trying to detract from Amanda should she keep going, just beware the comparison is not so tidy after 365 days.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on April 20, 2017, 06:10:34 pm
She will pass 80000 miles tomorrow.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on April 20, 2017, 07:01:42 pm
She will pass 80000 miles tomorrow.

She passed 80k early this morning.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on April 20, 2017, 08:26:58 pm
She will pass 80000 miles tomorrow.

She passed 80k early this morning.

I always had trouble with time zones...
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on April 21, 2017, 02:53:37 am
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18033072_1427213247344509_4108248000119133415_n.jpg?oh=9a3fe62a013c4c8a0d7e138a266f5a02&oe=59877DEF)
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Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 21, 2017, 08:08:44 am
She's short of cash - there is a gofundme page
https://www.gofundme.com/goamandacoker
or paypal
www.paypal.me/amandacoker92
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Post by: Fidgetbuzz on April 21, 2017, 04:24:42 pm
(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18033072_1427213247344509_4108248000119133415_n.jpg?oh=9a3fe62a013c4c8a0d7e138a266f5a02&oe=59877DEF)

Have I got this right .. Amanda is about to start a go at the 100,000 mile record on May 14th. Can she not just add on miles and days to the current amazing sequence
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on April 21, 2017, 04:48:14 pm
She is just adding onto her existing riding FB but she hadn't announced that she was going for it till now. Therefore she is 'going for' the 100,000 only now.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Bianchi Boy on April 21, 2017, 06:24:49 pm
This is beyond my understanding. I would fall apart both physically and mentally. How can you ride round in a loop for so long. It is mental - but that is probably why it is a record.

BB
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Post by: andyoxon on April 22, 2017, 12:03:41 pm
This is beyond my understanding. I would fall apart both physically and mentally. How can you ride round in a loop for so long. It is mental - but that is probably why it is a record.

BB

She is clearly mentally very tough, and dedicated to the cause. She is probably so used to the loops now, that carrying on is 'no problem' at all.  The knowledge that physically she can cope/is fast enough to recover well, the motivation for the record, and all the support of friends, family, visitors must really help. 
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Post by: Kim on April 22, 2017, 07:40:33 pm
It probably helps that she loves (road) cycling and is afraid to ride with traffic.
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Post by: rafletcher on April 22, 2017, 09:35:38 pm
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.
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Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on April 22, 2017, 09:49:17 pm
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.

As is the case with many brilliant achievers; they are wired differently and that helps them to do amazing things.  It doesn't always give them an easier life though.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on April 23, 2017, 01:02:21 am
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.

The key to Amanda's success is not due to any type of mental defect- it's her love of riding, drive, and off the charts mental and physical toughness.



Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on April 23, 2017, 12:45:40 pm
Another monster day - 275 miles.  Whereas I could sit in my armchair and contemplate 200 miles/day, to add an extra 75 miles each day to that is mind-blowing, thinking that she has to recover and start from scratch each day, to ride so far and so fast without going into the red is an achievement that would be hard to parallel in any form of activity.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 23, 2017, 02:39:14 pm
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.

The key to Amanda's success is not due to any type of mental defect- it's her love of riding, drive, and off the charts mental and physical toughness.
Anyone who watches videos of her riding, or the photos of her riding, would see that she is a sociable, friendly and open person.
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Post by: Exit Stage Left on April 23, 2017, 05:29:17 pm
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.


Quote
While on a ride with her father a little over 3 miles from their house, she was struck by a car from behind and thrown nearly 100 feet.

"Dislocated shoulder, broken legs, broken back, brain injury," her father said. "She was literally hurt from head to toe."

The family moved to Zephyr­hills in 2014.

In 2015, she rode from Florida to California on her bike. Upon her return, she decided to go for the world record for miles pedaled in a year.

Coker rides both a traditional upright and a recumbent bike and has to consume at least 5,500 calories a day.

"That girl can eat," her father said with a laugh. "She likes pizza, tacos, spaghetti, subs. She goes through a lot of Nutella because it has high calories in small samples."

And rarely does she listen to music.

"She likes to be alone with her thoughts."

For Coker's mother, Donna Coker, it's the mental barrier her daughter overcame that was most touching.

Her brain injury turned the once-outgoing Coker reclusive.

But after she broke the record Wednesday, Coker eagerly soaked in the adulation.

"That was so telling of how far she has come," her mother said.

Flatwoods Park, popular among bikers, also is where the men's record for most miles ridden in a year was set.

Kurt Searvogel of Little Rock, Ark., pedaled in eight states before completing the final laps of his 76,076-mile journey at Flatwoods in January. That record had stood since 1939.

Whether Coker pedals that far matters little to her. She said she just feels blessed to be able to ride again.

"I really don't have a mile goal," she said. "I just have a goal of doing my best."

http://www.tampabay.com/news/humaninterest/zephyrhills-woman-overcomes-brain-injury-to-set-bicycling-record/2294569

The story of a promising college athlete, who has a setback, but fights back to claim a record with the help of her family and friends is inspiring. It's clearly a different path from the usual one. A young athlete would be expected to work their way though the shorter distances. I don't think there's any endurance advantage to older physiology.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rafletcher on April 23, 2017, 07:26:15 pm
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.

The key to Amanda's success is not due to any type of mental defect- it's her love of riding, drive, and off the charts mental and physical toughness.

Neither is a "defect", at least I don't think so.  Just different personality to the mainstream.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LMT on April 23, 2017, 07:32:30 pm
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.

The key to Amanda's success is not due to any type of mental defect- it's her love of riding, drive, and off the charts mental and physical toughness.

Neither is a "defect", at least I don't think so.  Just different personality to the mainstream.

Both of which you know sweet FA about.

Given her injuries it is perfectly reasonable and practical to expect her to stay away from the road whilst undertaking this record breaking ride, in addition to this you have the other practical elements that make riding around the park the most pragmatic approach.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on April 23, 2017, 07:55:52 pm
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.

The key to Amanda's success is not due to any type of mental defect- it's her love of riding, drive, and off the charts mental and physical toughness.

Neither is a "defect", at least I don't think so.  Just different personality to the mainstream.
Indeed.

The following is PURE SPECULATION. But:
Brain injuries are complex things. They often never heal properly; it seems possible that AC still suffers in some way, and the symptoms may well affect her behaviour/personality.
At the same time - not speculation! - it is great to read about her recovery and dedication  :thumbsup:



p.s. @rafletcher: I don't know how anyone can know that YOU know Sweet FA about any subject  :-\
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Exit Stage Left on April 23, 2017, 09:40:58 pm
It must have been a long road for Donna Coker. It's extraordinary for anyone to discover a space in their lives that can only be filled by well over 200 miles a day for a year. I can see the logic in going for 100,000 miles, but it's natural to wonder what comes after.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: jsabine on April 23, 2017, 10:46:28 pm
OCD, or Aspergers would be my guess.

The key to Amanda's success is not due to any type of mental defect- it's her love of riding, drive, and off the charts mental and physical toughness.

Neither is a "defect", at least I don't think so.  Just different personality to the mainstream.
Indeed.

They're both commonly seen as disabilities or disadvantages though, which isn't too far from 'defect' in popular perception. In any case, I'm not sure that attempts to label people are very helpful, and still less when they come from a position of assumption or guesswork.

I just remain in awe of Amanda's determination, and absolutely staggered by the consistency she has brought to this.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on April 24, 2017, 11:48:44 am
Not defects.  And not the point, either.

Amanda is an exceptional athlete, physically and mentally, and it is really exciting she is going for the 100,000.  I hope she does get it, and that it provokes interest in the achievement for other riders, just as Steve's interest in the Year has sparked off this wave of amazing activity and achievement.

I thought the UMCA didn't cover this record, though?  Am I wrong, or is there another body validating?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on April 24, 2017, 12:57:28 pm

I thought the UMCA didn't cover this record, though?  Am I wrong, or is there another body validating?

Amanda petitioned the UMCA to add the 100k mile category and the board approved it a little over a week ago.
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Post by: clarion on April 24, 2017, 03:41:48 pm
Oh, well that's great news! :thumbsup:
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Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on May 01, 2017, 09:42:57 pm
8012.4 miles in April.  Not quite Godwin's July 1939, but heading well over 86,000 miles for the year.  Unbelievable.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: TheRedEyeJedi on May 02, 2017, 08:05:34 am
8012.4 miles in April.  Not quite Godwin's July 1939, but heading well over 86,000 miles for the year.  Unbelievable.

Also shows you how good Godwins July was, even with the pacing and coaching it's still remarkable.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andyoxon on May 02, 2017, 06:48:42 pm
Anyone here think that Amanda could go for a 24hr record to finish off her year?  If one extrapolates ~430km in 13hrs, 24hrs gets her close to 500mls.  AFAIUI the 24hr record is Strasser's 556mls (896km).
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Exit Stage Left on May 02, 2017, 07:03:46 pm
I don't know what the paced female 24 hour record is.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on May 02, 2017, 08:26:57 pm
Anyone here think that Amanda could go for a 24hr record to finish off her year?  If one extrapolates ~430km in 13hrs, 24hrs gets her close to 500mls.  AFAIUI the 24hr record is Strasser's 556mls (896km).
Would you like to make a wager? (winnings to charidee of course!) We can assume 556miles for this purpose.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andyoxon on May 02, 2017, 10:12:09 pm
 ;)  No idea is she's even contemplated it - would be good though.  How about it Amanda?   ;D

Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andyoxon on May 02, 2017, 10:23:15 pm
I don't know what the paced female 24 hour record is.

Looks like here?  https://www.ultracycling.com/timed/

24 Hour Road   Nancy Raposo                  US   Solo    Standard   Women 18-49    1992-09-22    439.65 mls    18.31mph  (29.5km/h)
24 Hour Road   Christoph Strasser   33    Austria   Solo    Standard   Men 18-49    2015-03-20    556.856         23.3    (37.5km/h)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 02, 2017, 10:25:25 pm
From http://cyclinguphill.com/time-trial-records/

24 Hour
Christine Robert 461.45 miles (1993)
Lynne Taylor) 459 miles (2007)

All of those distances are unpaced, of course.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 03, 2017, 12:21:42 am
I don't know what the paced female 24 hour record is.

Looks like here?  https://www.ultracycling.com/timed/

24 Hour Road   Nancy Raposo                  US   Solo    Standard   Women 18-49    1992-09-22    439.65 mls    18.31mph  (29.5km/h)
24 Hour Road   Christoph Strasser   33    Austria   Solo    Standard   Men 18-49    2015-03-20    556.856         23.3    (37.5km/h)

These aren't paced. The UMCA doesn't have a category for 24hr paced records.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 03, 2017, 12:26:11 am
As I said, all of those records are unpaced.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 03, 2017, 12:33:56 am
From http://cyclinguphill.com/time-trial-records/

24 Hour
Christine Robert 461.45 miles (1993)
Lynne Taylor) 459 miles (2007)

All of those distances are unpaced, of course.

Sarah Cooper rode 494.5 miles at the non-drafting Sebring 24hr TT this past Feb.
http://www.racesmith.com/results/2017results/BikeSebring24Hours021117.html (http://www.racesmith.com/results/2017results/BikeSebring24Hours021117.html)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 03, 2017, 05:47:52 am
After nearly a quarter century, the women's 24hr distance was overdue for updating. I wonder when BB's 12hr will be bested. That one is coming up to a half century.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: rob on May 03, 2017, 08:55:19 am
After nearly a quarter century, the women's 24hr distance was overdue for updating. I wonder when BB's 12hr will be bested. That one is coming up to a half century.

Jill Wilkinson is getting steadily closer.   If she'd have had better conditions on the Breckland last year I think she would have got it.   
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Jaded on May 03, 2017, 09:24:30 am
After nearly a quarter century, the women's 24hr distance was overdue for updating. I wonder when BB's 12hr will be bested. That one is coming up to a half century.

Shouldn't they be expunged from the records...?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 03, 2017, 09:38:39 am
 ;)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mattc on May 03, 2017, 01:44:01 pm
Sounds like a rumour for Cycling Weekly to run on a slow news day!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on May 06, 2017, 08:44:17 pm
Looks like she's on target yo set the year record to around 86,500. So another 10,000 on the current record.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: The French Tandem on May 07, 2017, 11:18:24 am
An unusually short ride (by Amanda's standards) yesterday. I hope nothing bad happened to her!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 07, 2017, 11:43:26 am
I think there are lots of fires in the area.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andyoxon on May 07, 2017, 11:52:26 am
Looks like she's on target yo set the year record to around 86,500. So another 10,000 on the current record.

or 86086..?   ;)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on May 07, 2017, 03:51:41 pm
Since Kurt added 1001 I did wonder if she'd target adding 10010. I haven't checked the official stats in a good while but according to mine she'd need to stop about a day and a half early to do that. Ossum!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on May 12, 2017, 11:37:27 am
85756.5 miles with 3 days to go. She will probably add about 800 miles more. >86500. As someone commented on Strava, "Makes climbing Everest seem a bit ordinary!"
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: hulver on May 12, 2017, 03:37:32 pm
I wonder if she'll do a 300 miler on her last day?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 12, 2017, 04:11:03 pm
I wonder if she'll do a 300 miler on her last day?
Not her last day, as she's going for the 100k record.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 13, 2017, 03:20:02 am
I wonder if she'll do a 300 miler on her last day?

She did 302 today.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on May 13, 2017, 08:29:57 am
What an amazing performance! There have been only 8 days in which she has registered fewer than 200 miles.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on May 13, 2017, 09:51:47 am
Her average speed was bang on normal (for her, not mortals) at 32.9kph for the better part of 15 hours.  Her speed increased after her usual stop time but did drop off back to her normal in the last 30 minutes.  Two more days like that and she could hit 86666 for the year.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on May 15, 2017, 09:29:57 am
86,573 miles.

Phenomenal.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 15, 2017, 11:11:55 am
An outstanding rider and a well-deserved result.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Ashaman42 on May 15, 2017, 11:12:42 am
Fantastic result. The mind boggles.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: LMT on May 15, 2017, 12:22:39 pm
Well done Amanda.

http://www.bicycling.com/rides/records/is-amanda-coker-for-real
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Post by: Wowbagger on May 15, 2017, 12:27:36 pm
Brilliant stuff! Bit of a last day slacker though... only 237 miles...  ;)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew_s on May 15, 2017, 01:05:18 pm
I suppose going for the 100,000 doesn't match with a last-day dash.

At her annual pace (237 mpd), the 100,000 should come up on the 10th July.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Citizenfish on May 15, 2017, 01:34:13 pm
Well done Amanda.

http://www.bicycling.com/rides/records/is-amanda-coker-for-real

Very interesting and insightful article
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on May 15, 2017, 02:56:00 pm
Astonishing.  What an athlete!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on May 15, 2017, 04:30:45 pm
Well done Amanda.

http://www.bicycling.com/rides/records/is-amanda-coker-for-real

Very interesting and insightful article

Apart from the error!

Quote
Searvogel was finishing his own record year of riding. He would become the first person to truly attempt—and succeed in breaking—the Highest Annual Mileage Record, which had last been set in 1939 by a British man named Tommy Godwin.

I won't give him any leeway for the interjection "and succeed in breaking". He was 11 days behind The Man who inspired all this.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: yossarian22 on May 16, 2017, 08:11:17 am
Astonishing indeed.
Imagine being told this was going to happen a couple of years ago? No chance.
She must surely be an outlier of outliers.
Bravo!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on May 16, 2017, 10:18:15 am
I think anyone who tackles this is an outlier. It's hardly going to become mainstream now, is it?  ;D
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on May 16, 2017, 11:20:02 am
Not sure if this was posted at the time but a loop around Flatwoods Park with Amanda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwFpJQah2FY&feature=youtu.be

Looks like a great cycling facility
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: The French Tandem on May 16, 2017, 12:02:12 pm
Not sure if this was posted at the time but a loop around Flatwoods Park with Amanda

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwFpJQah2FY&feature=youtu.be

Looks like a great cycling facility

I got bored before the end of this 10 minutes video. I cannot figure out how anyone could manage to do that for a year!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on May 16, 2017, 12:05:22 pm
Well, riding it would be a lot more interesting than watching, but I have no doubt that a day of that, let alone a year, takes mental grit.

I recall when a group from another place rode a 200km IIRC around Regents Park, and reported it to be mind-numbingly dull.

I wonder how many circuits Amanda has done?  Amazing persistence.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Phil W on May 16, 2017, 12:10:51 pm
Isn't it a 7 miles circuit so roughly 12,350 times around it?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on May 16, 2017, 01:20:11 pm
IIRC, Richmond Park is about seven miles (albeit lumpier).  That puts it in perspective.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew_s on May 16, 2017, 02:18:28 pm
Isn't it a 7 miles circuit so roughly 12,350 times around it?
Probably a bit less.
She's been doing a regular trip up and down some cycling tracks in a neighbouring housing area (until the park opens, probably). On the couple of occasions I counted, it was 30 or 31 laps, iirc.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew531 on May 17, 2017, 10:53:46 am
IIRC, Richmond Park is about seven miles (albeit lumpier).  That puts it in perspective.

It's just under 7 miles. I think the most laps I've managed there is 8 and I've had to vary it by doing a few smaller circuits via White Lodge and a few clockwise laps to spice it up. Saying that on shorter and perhaps more importantly flatter circuits ( e.g. Hillingdon, Velopark and Cyclopark ) it seems easier  to keep going.

Amanda's achievement is nothing short of astonishing. She'd raised the bar by a huge margin!   
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on May 17, 2017, 10:55:52 am
I've never managed more than three laps of RP without getting bored (and/or my legs ruined by Bastard Hill).  Amanda's mental resilience is superlative.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: tonyh on May 17, 2017, 12:40:44 pm
Amanda's mental resilience is superlative.

Superlative is the right word! Applies to her riding too.

(Laps: I wonder if she keeps an eye on getting ahead of [or chasing] a scheduled time per lap? Works for me on Richmond Park... gets more enjoyable after the first two or three!)
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Greenbank on May 17, 2017, 01:53:57 pm
I've never managed more than three laps of RP without getting bored (and/or my legs ruined by Bastard Hill).  Amanda's mental resilience is superlative.

I've done 500+ laps in the last few years (up to 6 laps per ride) and see something new each time but, yes, I can't imagine 30+ laps day in day out...
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on May 18, 2017, 01:38:34 pm

I got bored before the end of this 10 minutes video. I cannot figure out how anyone could manage to do that for a year!

I've put in over 70k miles myself at Flatwoods over the past 10 years and never once been bored riding there. I think that it has a lot to do with the fact that it has 20+ jogs/turns and only a few short straight sections over the course of 7 miles. You do not feel like you're going in circles while riding there.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: yossarian22 on May 24, 2017, 11:40:50 am
.... 250.3, 255.3, 250.6, 275.5 miles. The metronome is accelerating.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: andrew_s on May 25, 2017, 02:27:23 pm
... 130.2

I'd guess that the 275 was "seen the weather forecast for tomorrow" mileage
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Martin on May 25, 2017, 10:42:28 pm
When does Amanda's year finish? I though it was the 23rd
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on May 25, 2017, 10:52:56 pm
This is the 100,000.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on May 25, 2017, 11:05:07 pm
To answer the above in reverse order:

When does Amanda's year finish? I though it was the 23rd
It has finished, the 14th was day 365 (https://www.strava.com/activities/986744773) she is now continuing to take the 100,000 mile record.

... 130.2

I'd guess that the 275 was "seen the weather forecast for tomorrow" mileage
Amanda has 20 days over 275 miles to her credit, I would say it was more 'back up to speed'.  Speed is the wrong word, she didn't slow at all.  The reverse actually, she took a short day to QoM pretty much everything in Flatwoods after completing the year.  She took a few other short days too (rest? Does she know the meaning of the word?).  She then ramped up to her usual time in the saddle coincidently the day before it got a tad breezy.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Martin on May 26, 2017, 12:26:19 am
This is the 100,000.

ok; I was just following the HAMR (as in A) link
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on July 03, 2017, 04:28:58 am
Amanda just rode 400 miles in a day. Started at midnight, finished at 9pm.  :o
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: SoreTween on July 03, 2017, 09:14:01 am
Good grief :o  Just as you think she's nearly finished mucking with your head she does that.  She's a machine.

She had slipped a bit since the end of the year, the projection at year pace had her completing on day 418.  Hurricane season and the odd spot of sanity in her schedule had seen that slip just into day 422.  If she's intending to keep that advantage rather than just do it to muck with our heads some more and recover with lower days after that will put her back into day 421. If she can keep big efforts going with her ability you can't rule day 420 out even at this late stage.  Think about that - fitting an extra 240 or so miles into 6 days rather than taking a 7th.

Go Amanda!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on July 03, 2017, 09:44:10 am
I saw the posting about the 400-miler.

Just when I thought she was winding down a bit (she's been posting about taking it easy, that this is more of a holiday)!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on July 11, 2017, 09:36:12 am
Her last day today then.  227 to go to reach 100,000 miles in 423 days.  Respect.

Wonder what she will do tomorrow?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on July 11, 2017, 10:26:42 am
I bet she goes for a bike ride.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on July 11, 2017, 10:38:37 am
Her last day today then.  227 to go to reach 100,000 miles in 423 days.  Respect.

Wonder what she will do tomorrow?
Lie in bed

According to one interview, she is a 'normal lazy 20-something who doesn't like getting up early and would prefer to lie in bed until midday'.

riiight.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: toontra on July 11, 2017, 10:44:22 am
I bet she goes for a bike ride.

A recovery ride is often recommended after a tough event   ;)

It will be fascinating to see what Amanda does next.  I don't think this will be the last we hear of her.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: clarion on July 11, 2017, 10:55:00 am
I don't think so either.  She has a prodigious talent, and is very young still.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on July 11, 2017, 01:20:56 pm
I bet she goes for a bike ride.

A recovery ride is often recommended after a tough event   ;)

It will be fascinating to see what Amanda does next.  I don't think this will be the last we hear of her.

Given that she has been riding pretty much flat out for 400 days and more, how long should the recovery ride last?
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Bianchi Boy on July 11, 2017, 08:37:40 pm
I bet she goes for a bike ride.

A recovery ride is often recommended after a tough event   ;)

It will be fascinating to see what Amanda does next.  I don't think this will be the last we hear of her.

Given that she has been riding pretty much flat out for 400 days and more, how long should the recovery ride last?
We humans are creatures of habit and we like to know where we are and what we do next. Some take this repetition a long way and some to really incredible lengths.

It will take some time to settle into a new pattern, when people retire it can take them a couple of years to get use to the change. Amanda is younger and it will not take as long, but it will take a while.

BB
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Kim on July 11, 2017, 09:24:37 pm
I bet she goes for a bike ride.

...to the moon!
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: orraloon on July 11, 2017, 09:28:46 pm
238,000 miles?  Yeah, why not.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: toontra on July 12, 2017, 08:31:44 am
Well, that's another record knocked off.  Well done Amanda!

Steve should be proud.  Without his efforts and vision Kurt most likely wouldn't have been inspired to take on the year, and without Kurt's encouragement Amanda may not have attempted the year and 100,000.  Just shows how our actions can impact on others in unforeseen ways sometimes.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Wowbagger on July 12, 2017, 12:54:29 pm
Well, that's another record knocked off.  Well done Amanda!

Steve should be proud.  Without his efforts and vision Kurt most likely wouldn't have been inspired to take on the year, and without Kurt's encouragement Amanda may not have attempted the year and 100,000.  Just shows how our actions can impact on others in unforeseen ways sometimes.

I have absolutely no doubt that without Steve resurrecting this, Tommy Godwin would still be the record holder. That doesn't detract from the others' achievements, but it does set a marker of what a first rate cycling visionary Steve is, not to mention a world-class distance cyclist and a thoroughly decent bloke (bad puns notwithstanding!).
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: Cmiller on September 08, 2017, 02:49:30 pm

It will be fascinating to see what Amanda does next.  I don't think this will be the last we hear of her.

Amanda entered her first time trial since completing the year/100k mile records last night and did extremely well. She won the women's division and also set a new women's record on the 15k Fort Desoto course completing it in 21.07 at 26.5 mph avg.
Title: Re: A new women's HAM'R challenger- Amanda Coker
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 11, 2017, 10:36:49 am
It will be fascinating to see what Amanda does next.  I don't think this will be the last we hear of her.

Training on a turbo trainer in a disney hotel bedroom in Florida. It's a tad too windy outside for cycling.
Hotel room is too small to fit easily fit in the turbo trainer, so it is wedged through the bathroom door.