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Title: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: willpom gwraudax on March 04, 2019, 10:16:44 am
This caused a little storm in a teacup last year. So it is back!

A fast easy run through the night passing Devizes' The Crammer where legend has it Wiltshire smugglers claimed to the excisemen they were raking for the moon, then down the Avon valley. Along the Promenade from Bournemouth to Poole for Breakfast at Lilliput Sea Scouts. Then around Poole Harbour and Sunseekers boatyard. Followed by lanes back through the Dorset Hills passing the chocolatebox village of Milton Abbas and the abbey to Glastonbury and The Levels. The Strawberry Line railway path takes you under the Mendips before popping you out at The Strawberry Line Cafe for the last control. This a community asset helping young adults with learning difficulties develop skills for the hospitality industry; after last years event I popped in to say thanks and was told they had their best day ever! Then back into Bristol this time hopefully, works permitting, by a quieter route.

Starting and finishing this time at Felix Road Adventure Playground another valuable community asset promoting free play; thanks to last year several hundred pounds was raised but still a mere drop in the ocean thanks to cuts in local play services.

On the calendar early as almost immediately after last year's event I was getting emails about the next. Entry will close when capacity reached, already at 10% after just a few days.

Entry here: http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/19-866/ (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/19-866/)

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/vh3gz92ab3rkm29/2018-11-24%2003.24.06.jpg?raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsttc8sjs4jced2/2018-11-24%2004.19.24.jpg?raw=1)

Last year's thread: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=110095.0 (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=110095.0)
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: willpom gwraudax on March 04, 2019, 10:18:21 am
No plans for a summer Sunseekers & Moonrakers this year but will create a perm when I've got a few minutes.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: ianrobo on March 04, 2019, 06:13:54 pm
booked in ASAP, now this is a challenge !!
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: willpom gwraudax on September 27, 2019, 02:47:14 pm
Update on numbers: I've surpassed last year's entries already so I anticipate reaching the maximum before the advertised closing date of 10th November. Secure your place now.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: lmm on October 04, 2019, 08:55:04 pm
Provisionally in, assuming life and trains align.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: willpom gwraudax on October 23, 2019, 11:03:11 am
Last few places left before the waiting list. Get in quick if you aren't already.

Final route checks will be done one or two weeks before, route information will be emailed after that.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: Wobbly on October 23, 2019, 07:58:10 pm
Sadly the wife's working that Saturday else I'd have signed up.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: mattc on October 23, 2019, 08:15:39 pm
This thing borked my knee for about 5months last time, so I'm going to wimp out I think!

(Some of it was really nice while we were doing it :) )
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: willpom gwraudax on October 24, 2019, 09:41:27 am
This thing borked my knee for about 5months last time, so I'm going to wimp out I think!

(Some of it was really nice while we were doing it :) )

Another year....
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: willpom gwraudax on October 24, 2019, 09:44:34 am
CAPACITY IS REACHED

You can still 'enter' but this will put you on the waiting list. If a space becomes available places are allocated in order of entries received as if by the usual means and by its terms and conditions. If no space is available before Thursday 14th a full refund will be made after the event when I'm doing my admin. If a space becomes available on Thursday 14th or Friday 15th you have the right to refuse. This is so I'm not chasing people for payments to secure a place once one becomes available.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: Rainbow Dash on November 05, 2019, 11:28:37 am
Hi all,

I have entered this ride and have been reviewing forum posts, blogs etc. from last year.
There seems to be a consensus that it was a tough event and I am wondering why this should be the case. The amount of climbing (2300m) for a 300 seems fairly benign so was it the weather, the fact that alot of time is spent riding in the dark or some other factors that made it tough?
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: psyclist on November 05, 2019, 12:33:23 pm
I'm also interested in the answer to Rainbow Dash's question.

Also, when cycling from Temple Meads to the start, is the cycle path route safe late in the evening, or would Feeder Road or Silverthorne Lane be better options?
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: willpom gwraudax on November 05, 2019, 03:20:41 pm
I'm also interested in the answer to Rainbow Dash's question.

Also, when cycling from Temple Meads to the start, is the cycle path route safe late in the evening, or would Feeder Road or Silverthorne Lane be better options?

I personally have never had a problem on the B2B path. The direct road route would be ok too.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: Colinf on November 05, 2019, 06:09:25 pm
Coming across from the London area for this,  think i might get the train rather than drive, does anyone know what station is best at the Bristol end ?
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: Redlight on November 05, 2019, 06:56:55 pm
Coming across from the London area for this,  think i might get the train rather than drive, does anyone know what station is best at the Bristol end ?

I'm going to Temple Meads. It looks to be about a 10 minute ride to the start.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: Redlight on November 05, 2019, 07:00:50 pm
Hi all,

I have entered this ride and have been reviewing forum posts, blogs etc. from last year.
There seems to be a consensus that it was a tough event and I am wondering why this should be the case. The amount of climbing (2300m) for a 300 seems fairly benign so was it the weather, the fact that alot of time is spent riding in the dark or some other factors that made it tough?

I can't speak for last year, but I think there's always an extra element of challenge starting a ride at night and riding through the first night. Add in the fact that it will inevitably be cold, even if there are no other meteorological factors, and the first seven or eight hours will be character building.  The route doesn't look particularly tough, although the relentless ups and downs on the way across to Salisbury might be wearing.  We shall see.  I think the best thing is to go prepared for type 2 fun and enjoy the type 1 parts.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: willpom gwraudax on November 05, 2019, 08:51:15 pm
Coming across from the London area for this,  think i might get the train rather than drive, does anyone know what station is best at the Bristol end ?

Temple Meads is the closest. Parkway is about a 30min ride but down hill - use the Concorde Way to J3 then along the A4320 cycle path, B4465 is the easiest way https://cycleplanner.betterbybike.info/cycle-routes/regional/bristol/Concorde%20Way (https://cycleplanner.betterbybike.info/cycle-routes/regional/bristol/Concorde%20Way)
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: Colinf on November 05, 2019, 09:39:36 pm
Coming across from the London area for this,  think i might get the train rather than drive, does anyone know what station is best at the Bristol end ?

Temple Meads is the closest. Parkway is about a 30min ride but down hill - use the Concorde Way to J3 then along the A4320 cycle path, B4465 is the easiest way https://cycleplanner.betterbybike.info/cycle-routes/regional/bristol/Concorde%20Way (https://cycleplanner.betterbybike.info/cycle-routes/regional/bristol/Concorde%20Way)

Many thanks Will .
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: vorsprung on November 06, 2019, 09:18:42 pm
Hi all,

I have entered this ride and have been reviewing forum posts, blogs etc. from last year.
There seems to be a consensus that it was a tough event and I am wondering why this should be the case. The amount of climbing (2300m) for a 300 seems fairly benign so was it the weather, the fact that alot of time is spent riding in the dark or some other factors that made it tough?

Er, it's night and it's November...what more do you need to know?  If the weather is uncoperative it will be difficult

Climbing isn't the only factor.  The type of road also makes things more difficult.  I am kind of hoping it won't be as bad as the Hard Boiled
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: willpom gwraudax on November 07, 2019, 08:45:35 am
Climbing isn't the only factor.  The type of road also makes things more difficult.  I am kind of hoping it won't be as bad as the Hard Boiled

The night riding certainly isn't. Predominantly quite A & B roads with a short bit along the promenade which can be sandy. The return from Lilliput gets a bit more laney in the daylight with some lumps over the Dorset Hills, plus the Strawberry Line to spice it up; but obviously the route is advisory and if you choose to go over the Mendips rather than under then that is fine with me.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: Redlight on November 07, 2019, 09:17:57 am
Climbing isn't the only factor.  The type of road also makes things more difficult.  I am kind of hoping it won't be as bad as the Hard Boiled

... with some lumps...

I was just pleased/relieved to note that the route is clockwise and that you weren't bringing us back via Brassknocker Hill. I'm not sure I'd fancy that after 270km or so.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: bairn again on November 07, 2019, 09:21:07 am
I'm following this thread with interest as I've a daft notion to do a winter 300km DIY before the year is out (subject to there being no ice and it being predominantly dry - I appreciate that might rule it out until well into 2020!).  My 1st opportunity would be Fri 22nd Nov.

My planning so far has concluded that 2200 is about the optimum start time which gives me a chance of finishing in daylight (and the morale boost of knowing that once its morning that I probably wont need to ride in the dark again). 

Maybe something like Edinburgh - Montrose - Edinburgh with much flatness.

Fingers crossed that you get reasonable weather.   
 
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: WCTD on November 07, 2019, 09:35:26 am
I'm following this thread with interest as I've a daft notion to do a winter 300km DIY before the year is out (subject to there being no ice and it being predominantly dry - I appreciate that might rule it out until well into 2020!).  My 1st opportunity would be Fri 22nd Nov.

My planning so far has concluded that 2200 is about the optimum start time which gives me a chance of finishing in daylight (and the morale boost of knowing that once its morning that I probably wont need to ride in the dark again). 

Maybe something like Edinburgh - Montrose - Edinburgh with much flatness.

Fingers crossed that you get reasonable weather.   
 

I've had a similar thought of a silly winter 300k but goes from Glasgow, Newbridge, Perth, Crianlarich, Balloch and Glasgow. Would need to think about the timing coming down from Crianlarich though, not very much climbing either.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: bairn again on November 07, 2019, 10:05:01 am
I'm following this thread with interest as I've a daft notion to do a winter 300km DIY before the year is out (subject to there being no ice and it being predominantly dry - I appreciate that might rule it out until well into 2020!).  My 1st opportunity would be Fri 22nd Nov.

My planning so far has concluded that 2200 is about the optimum start time which gives me a chance of finishing in daylight (and the morale boost of knowing that once its morning that I probably wont need to ride in the dark again). 

Maybe something like Edinburgh - Montrose - Edinburgh with much flatness.

Fingers crossed that you get reasonable weather.   
 

I've had a similar thought of a silly winter 300k but goes from Glasgow, Newbridge, Perth, Crianlarich, Balloch and Glasgow. Would need to think about the timing coming down from Crianlarich though, not very much climbing either.
yhpm. 
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: DaT on November 07, 2019, 11:35:41 am
Climbing isn't the only factor.  The type of road also makes things more difficult.  I am kind of hoping it won't be as bad as the Hard Boiled

... with some lumps...

I was just pleased/relieved to note that the route is clockwise and that you weren't bringing us back via Brassknocker Hill. I'm not sure I'd fancy that after 270km or so.

I tried to do that fixed after 380k. On return I asked Will if he managed it on the rec, fixed. I was informed the route was advisory...
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: willpom gwraudax on November 07, 2019, 12:20:01 pm
I tried to do that fixed after 380k. On return I asked Will if he managed it on the rec, fixed. I was advised the route was advisory...

 O:-)
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: vorsprung on November 11, 2019, 12:41:15 pm
Please could someone post the link to the ride with gps track?  I haven't got an email about it.  I've emailed Will but no response yet
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: underseer on November 11, 2019, 01:15:13 pm
Looks like the pre-dawn chill is going to be bracing.

https://www.weatherbagel.com/f/07e67a65-36d1-40d0-89bc-3b01bb2bc6d6

Based on an ambitious 20 km/h ave and route from here: https://www.plotaroute.com/route/722343
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: willpom gwraudax on November 11, 2019, 02:12:09 pm
Routes change for various reasons. Email sent.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: vorsprung on November 11, 2019, 04:00:16 pm
Please could someone post the link to the ride with gps track?  I haven't got an email about it.  I've emailed Will but no response yet

got it, thanks Will
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: vorsprung on November 11, 2019, 04:02:42 pm
Looks like the pre-dawn chill is going to be bracing.

https://www.weatherbagel.com/f/07e67a65-36d1-40d0-89bc-3b01bb2bc6d6


3 degrees minimum isn't too bad.  Trouble is that doesn't take into account local variations
Any weather details 4 days out is going to be fairly fictional of course
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: lmm on November 11, 2019, 05:48:25 pm
Dry and above freezing the whole way round would be more than good enough, I'll be very happy if the forecast continues to look like that.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: willpom gwraudax on November 12, 2019, 08:57:56 am
For once I'm hoping the weather doesn't change for the weekend, looking briskly fantastic, lets hope the cloud cover abates as you go past The Crammer on the way to The Moonrakers in Devizes!

I've been kindly informed by those who can't attend. As such everyone on the waiting list has got a place and there are a few cards left over in case anyone has been 'umming and arrhing' now's your chance.
http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/19-866/ (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/19-866/)
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: Solocle on November 14, 2019, 10:57:21 am
It looks like the forecast is getting wetter - might also have lost the best of the tailwind across Salisbury plain. Oh well.
I might take a different route between Liliput and Podimore - as long as it's early enough, the A350 should be fairly quiet, cut through Blandford, up the A357. Not to mention that I actually live up that way, so I might be able to make an extra "cafe" stop! It adds 2.5 kms, 6.5 if you instead go to Wimborne and use NCN 25/253 to Sturminster Newton (but, that route is gravelly after Blandford).
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: lmm on November 15, 2019, 09:40:10 am
Recumbent duly wedged into a GWR compartment (actually the part I was most worried about after all the horror stories). Now just hoping nothing untoward happens in transit.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: bludger on November 17, 2019, 10:23:35 am
It looked like a formidable ride but great conditions. Hope everyone had enough clothes to stay warm!
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: DaT on November 17, 2019, 10:43:39 am
Enjoyed by me! Wasn't as wet as I'd anticipated.
Title: Re: Moonrakers & Sunseekers 300km 15/11/19
Post by: psyclist on November 17, 2019, 11:59:24 am
I thoroughly enjoyed the ride. The rain wasn't an issue, maybe 2 hours max in total, and not the drenching kind.

The sand on the coastal path was a challenge on 23mm tyres, but with care it was a nice interlude before breakfast. Same for the mixed use paths later on. Variety is very welcomed on these long rides.

Thanks to Will and all the helpers at the start, finish and in-between.