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Title: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 02, 2012, 11:00:49 am
Anyone want to join me in here?

Back from a week in Tignes, it occurred to me it would be good to have a thread for ski stuff like where we'll be to maybe meet up for a ski or drink or .... maybe ... both, or just general ski chat.

Not that I'm being greedy or anything, but I'm going to be in La Plagne (Plagne Centre) on 11th Feb......


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Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Tewdric on January 02, 2012, 11:26:41 am
Bastard.

I went to Val D'Isere every year for a decade until we had kids..

 ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 02, 2012, 11:47:52 am
Back from a week in Tignes...

Come on then, tell us about it  ::-)

We're going to Les Arcs in a couple of weeks  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: why1040 on January 02, 2012, 12:34:43 pm
Bah!

I haven't been skiing since we moved to the UK.  That's 21 years!  Well, unless you count 2x1 hour at the indoor snowdome in Tamworth...

I do miss it sometimes, but actually mostly the cross-country skiing.  Co-ordination and balance aren't my strong points so slalom really is a challenge for me   ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on January 02, 2012, 03:15:10 pm
I suffer with burning balls  :(
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 02, 2012, 05:26:49 pm
Back from a week in Tignes...

Come on then, tell us about it  ::-)




Awww...... if you insist ;-)

Deep Pan Crispin Heavin'

Actually, it only got  a bit heaving towards the end, one of the best Christmas weeks skiing for a while, huge dump for two weeks before, bit naff first and last days, but four days of glorious sunshine. You'll be pleased to know there's tons more dropping out the sky as we speak, so much so that off piste is off the menu right now (5/5 avalanche) but it should be good when you get there. Which of the Arcs are you going to? We've stayed in 1950 a few times and thoroughly enjoyed the 100% ski in ski out.

Chalet:
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Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: rogerzilla on January 02, 2012, 05:33:36 pm
You're all first up against the wall, come the revolution.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 02, 2012, 08:08:19 pm
You're all first up against the wall, come the revolution.

Oh goody!!!!!

Le Mur is a rather nice red run  :demon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5Lkg_pK4tQ
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on January 02, 2012, 10:30:07 pm

Not that I'm being greedy or anything, but I'm going to be in La Plagne (Plagne Centre) on 11th Feb......


I was in Plagne Montalbert 3rd December doing minibus transfers for a ski company and saw no snow but did see cows under the drag lift there! On the 4th I went over to 1800 and still no snow, but it then started on the 5th and carried on for 4 days solid - must be around about 12 foot now?
Montalbert had rain at village level today but it was absolutely white out over at Plagne Centre at 1850 so lots of snow at about 1500? Lots more due on Thursday too !
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on January 02, 2012, 10:33:48 pm
You're all first up against the wall, come the revolution.

Oh goody!!!!!

Le Mur is a rather nice red run  :demon:

<SNIPPED video>

Looks a bit tame, Mur over at Courchevel is a beast just by the Altiport, but the one at Avoriaz the 'swiss wall' is diabolical - the helipad for the flying ambulance is a big clue...
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Tewdric on January 02, 2012, 11:55:36 pm
You're a bit slow Ham!  :demon:

Give me a clear run down Face anyday..
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 03, 2012, 12:03:38 am
La Sache is the run you want in Tignes, especially with moguls, just ask Mrs P  ;D
Title: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Tewdric on January 03, 2012, 12:20:52 am
My real favourite run, in fact, is the grand  vallon off-piste from the top of Fornet.  It's awesome. 
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 03, 2012, 07:18:26 am
La Sache was great, although tbh more Mowgli than mogul-y this year, because of all the fresh snow around you get that curious almost-moguls type field where it has been skied as much by those who can't ski moguls as those who can, so you haven't got regular moguls and can't get a proper rhythm. Most of this year I was lantern rouge, following behind Mrs Ham for security. I convinced myself skiing slowly was good for my technique.....

And yes, I know and love the Courchevel Mur, but this one was the most recent in my mind, and the first hit on Youtube. Avoriaz sounds good, though...??

So.... favourite runs in recent resorts, anyone? Mine in Tignes was Santons - the natural half pipe. Not challenging, just fun.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 03, 2012, 09:43:38 am
You're a bit slow Ham!  :demon:


Oh Yeah ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Serving suggestion. May contain technical glitches.

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Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 03, 2012, 09:47:21 am
A little more credible....

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Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 03, 2012, 11:03:19 am
My real favourite run, in fact, is the grand  vallon off-piste from the top of Fornet.  It's awesome. 
My most glorious run ever was from Pointe Pers at the top of Le Fornet (have I got that right ?  Le Fornet is when you go all the way through Val until the road is closed, yes ?)

Get to the top, walk up for what seemed like an hour, then ski along a ridge with some rather dramatic drops either side. This leaves you almost exactly 1000m above the refuge in the valley below. Only one way down and it's steeper than 45'.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 03, 2012, 11:21:57 am
Not done it for years but if you can do the Vallon de la Sache down to les Brevierres on fresh snow it's a truly superb run. Avoids the almost moguls on the Sache run :).

Most memorable run I've done is the run down from le Peclet in Val Thorens, but that needs a guide, and skins, and climbing and ropes....
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 03, 2012, 11:27:03 am
Val Mesdi on the Gruppo Sella anyone ?   That's great fun.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 03, 2012, 12:26:50 pm
Val Mesdi on the Gruppo Sella anyone ?   That's great fun.

It was indeed :)

Mustn't forget Marmolada in that area either. Although the less said about my 'exit' from teh chairlift three quarters the way up or the attentio of the Polizia Provinciale the better :demon:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 03, 2012, 12:33:21 pm
Val Mesdi on the Gruppo Sella anyone ?   That's great fun.

It was indeed :)

Mustn't forget Marmolada in that area either. Although the less said about my 'exit' from teh chairlift three quarters the way up or the attentio of the Polizia Provinciale the better :demon:

Oooo yes !!   Marmolada.

Allegedly 12m of fresh snow on the glacier and fresh track, (almost all) on-piste skiing all day long for about 12 of us.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 03, 2012, 12:41:23 pm
Not done it for years but if you can do the Vallon de la Sache down to les Brevierres on fresh snow it's a truly superb run. Avoids the almost moguls on the Sache run :).

Most memorable run I've done is the run down from le Peclet in Val Thorens, but that needs a guide, and skins, and climbing and ropes....


Do you mean going around the back? I thought Sache went down Vallon de la Sache?

I've heard about the run down Peclet, never done it, but Christine is quite nice coming back the "normal" way from Peclet

And also happens to be Mrs Ham's name....

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Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Tewdric on January 03, 2012, 12:47:22 pm
My most glorious run ever was from Pointe Pers at the top of Le Fornet (have I got that right ?  Le Fornet is when you go all the way through Val until the road is closed, yes ?)

Get to the top, walk up for what seemed like an hour, then ski along a ridge with some rather dramatic drops either side. This leaves you almost exactly 1000m above the refuge in the valley below. Only one way down and it's steeper than 45'.

Yep, Fornet is the last place you can get to heading uphill on the road.  The Grand Vallon run goes from the top of the Signal button lift and you simply hop over the ridgeline and ski down off-piste, eventually joining up with the Vallon blue run a long way down.  It's a stunning run but quite straightforward for inexperienced off-piste skiers.   The one you describe mst be on the Pissaillais glacier?  Sounds a bit too hardcore for me :-) 
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 03, 2012, 12:54:26 pm
My most glorious run ever was from Pointe Pers at the top of Le Fornet (have I got that right ?  Le Fornet is when you go all the way through Val until the road is closed, yes ?)

Get to the top, walk up for what seemed like an hour, then ski along a ridge with some rather dramatic drops either side. This leaves you almost exactly 1000m above the refuge in the valley below. Only one way down and it's steeper than 45'.

Yep, Fornet is the last place you can get to heading uphill on the road.  The Grand Vallon run goes from the top of the Signal button lift and you simply hop over the ridgeline and ski down off-piste, eventually joining up with the Vallon blue run a long way down.  It's a stunning run but quite straightforward for inexperienced off-piste skiers.   The one you describe mst be on the Pissaillais glacier?  Sounds a bit too hardcore for me :-) 
Got it. The ridge line is (I think) Col Pers, and even when this was officially closed I saw ski school groups dipping under the rope to do the run. This drops you down to the same refuge we got to, except that we came in from higher left (when viewed from the bottom). No idea what the glacier was called. I'll check.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on January 03, 2012, 01:15:22 pm
That would be the Glacier Pers, and the refuge is the Prariond. I did a video yonks ago which features the Vallon de la Sachette, Point Pers and the Glacier Pers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiWk6IZqwDk
The Vallon de la Sachette is accessed via a traverse from the top of the Aiguille Percee lift.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 03, 2012, 01:20:21 pm
Not done it for years but if you can do the Vallon de la Sache down to les Brevierres on fresh snow it's a truly superb run. Avoids the almost moguls on the Sache run :).

Most memorable run I've done is the run down from le Peclet in Val Thorens, but that needs a guide, and skins, and climbing and ropes....


Do you mean going around the back? I thought Sache went down Vallon de la Sache?

I've heard about the run down Peclet, never done it, but Christine is quite nice coming back the "normal" way from Peclet

And also happens to be Mrs Ham's name....

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From memory the Vallon run is an 'Iteneraire' (sp?) which is further to the right as you look at the piste map. But itis a long time since I've done it....

The Peclet (Face Ouest) run starts in the top right corner of this picture:
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completed (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paul_fulford/6627754541/) by paulfulford (http://www.flickr.com/people/paul_fulford/), on Flickr

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 03, 2012, 02:19:10 pm
That would be the Glacier Pers, and the refuge is the Prariond. I did a video yonks ago which features the Vallon de la Sachette, Point Pers and the Glacier Pers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiWk6IZqwDk
The Vallon de la Sachette is accessed via a traverse from the top of the Aiguille Percee lift.

Ah yes, I know what you mean now. Was that your vid ? </impressed>
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on January 03, 2012, 04:26:02 pm
Ah yes, I know what you mean now. Was that your vid ? </impressed>

I tend not to feature in the videos of powder, as I'm very bad in it. We used to do quite a bit of off-piste skiing, when the Pound was worth more than Euro 1.50. We last went to Val at the time of the Icelandic Volcano.
I found difficulty getting a HD video camera to stop down enough, so I taped a sunglasses lens on the front, which worked quite well. Any trip over the Col Pers depends on the Gorge de Malpasset, when it's not passable there will be walking involved. It's also quite a long flat pole out from the Pont St. Charles.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 03, 2012, 04:54:47 pm
Any trip over the Col Pers depends on the Gorge de Malpasset, when it's not passable there will be walking involved. It's also quite a long flat pole out from the Pont St. Charles.
I had a couple of friends dip under the rope on Col Pers in a very snow-light season.

The lack of tracks should have warned them. It took them many hours to get out as the whole of the bottom of the Gorge was sheet ice. For a whole sections in the Gorge they had to cut steps in the ice with the tail end of their skis.

Safely back in a bar that evening the Gorge came up in conversation with a local guide (without letting on that they had been down it that very day).

"Anyone who goes in the Gorge now will die. There is no way out."

(Ths was in the days before mobile phones.)

I think they both felt pretty lucky to get away with just a knackered pair of skis each.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on January 03, 2012, 07:57:42 pm
We've generally gone at the end of the season to Val, as there's often good powder. The summer path above the Gorge is an option then.
I'd quite like to do some ski-touring in Slovenia, as I like the place, but equipment hire might be an issue.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 03, 2012, 08:36:59 pm
Any trip over the Col Pers depends on the Gorge de Malpasset, when it's not passable there will be walking involved. It's also quite a long flat pole out from the Pont St. Charles.
I had a couple of friends dip under the rope on Col Pers in a very snow-light season.

The lack of tracks should have warned them. It took them many hours to get out as the whole of the bottom of the Gorge was sheet ice. For a whole sections in the Gorge they had to cut steps in the ice with the tail end of their skis.

Safely back in a bar that evening the Gorge came up in conversation with a local guide (without letting on that they had been down it that very day).

"Anyone who goes in the Gorge now will die. There is no way out."

(Ths was in the days before mobile phones.)

I think they both felt pretty lucky to get away with just a knackered pair of skis each.

http://pistehors.com/backcountry/wiki/Savoie/Val-D-Isere-Col-Du-Pers ....

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Unless the Gorges are in condition, indicated by a sign at the ski lift, they can trap skiers like a spider at the bottom of a bathtub
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 03, 2012, 08:47:47 pm
And wasn't a lot of Apocalypse Snow shot in Les Arcs? (answer may be "no"...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTtyXn7B4Y4
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on January 04, 2012, 01:11:06 am
And wasn't a lot of Apocalypse Snow shot in Les Arcs? (answer may be "no"...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTtyXn7B4Y4

One piece suits and mono's! How old is that - 1983 that explains it!

The tandem mono's look fun (read dangerous)
and as for the catermaran that is just mental!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on January 04, 2012, 01:48:27 am
Favourite pisted runs (all I do) are Ventina down into Cervinia from Klein Matterhorn, or perhaps International from same place into Zermatt. In the 3V's Jockeys into La Praz is good, Suisses above 1850 is good, just over a bit is Combe de Saulire, of which the entrance is something of a bottle tester the first time you see it. Chapelets and Rochers above 1650 are good and fast, Christine from Peclet over at VT is a good leg burner at warp 8 too. Jerusalem and Pramint above the St Martin mid station are good blasts too -with plenty of little drop aways for a bit of safe 'air'. I can't do deliberate 'proper air' as I always bottle it, and while it isn't pretty, it is probably funny to watch :o  ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 08, 2012, 08:59:37 pm

Most loosy-stuff ski holiday ever...

All skis were unloaded from flying-machine at Edinburgh before we even took off, because the flying machine was over-weight.
So we had to hire for 3 days, till they arrived by the steamer.  Shit happens, no big deal.

Boots all arrived OK at Geneva, and transferred to coach.
We were last off the coach, to find some muppet at some intervening stop had taken Junior#2's boot bag as well as his own.   Didn't even have the courtesey to get onto his rep and 'fess up, which would have at least got us the bag back.   Lost permenantly.   Purchased new boots, helmet, gogs and bag at Courchevel 1850 'Russian Oligarch' prices

Then the worst: I lost a ski in Deep Powder for NO REASON, and despite spending over 2 hours probing with the probe and digging with the shuvvel in a carefully set out search zone, no trace was found.   Gave up.   Thing is, I have a pair of flourescent tape streamers which I would normally wear in these conditions but I'd not put them on because I was just doing a quick reccy run early AM before everyone set out! Gah!

And the 'Liasons Trois Valleys' links were closed most of the week due to high winds and it neiging like buggery.
So mostly confined to Courchevel 1850.
Good neige tho!

Got back to Edinburgh Airport to find my brother's car with a wrecked wing and bonnet, where some item of loose debris had been blown into it at high speed by some storms that have been around, as I hear it.

Harrumph.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 08, 2012, 09:17:18 pm
Re: Fave Things To Do in Espace Killy:

The kids always want me to take them down the Vallee Perdue, which is an open-secret off-piste gulley which starts from the bottom of the Tommeuses chair, and wends it's way down into La Daille.  The name is on the piste map, but the route is not.   It's just a drop into the un-marked gulley directly from the Tommeuses chair 'queue'.

It is narrow and winding, has a speliological section which can require limboing, and depending on snow depth can involve climbing down ropes and throwing skis down etc etc.

Just remembered, I did a bit of a video on it a couple of years back ( sorry it's shit quality, it's a hand-held cam.. ):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPpCUhjQIms&list=UUFZxFqzzD_Jo6okZ35NMAqw&index=9&feature=plcp

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 08, 2012, 10:04:57 pm

Come on then, tell us about it  ::-)

We're going to Les Arcs in a couple of weeks  :thumbsup:

You can try the new(ish) fangled Vanoise Express and tootle over to La Plagne!

I've not been to either resort since it was built ( and closed / re-opened! )

Looks like a fair old piece of engineering.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on January 08, 2012, 11:13:28 pm

Come on then, tell us about it  ::-)

We're going to Les Arcs in a couple of weeks  :thumbsup:

You can try the new(ish) fangled Vanoise Express and tootle over to La Plagne!

I've not been to either resort since it was built ( and closed / re-opened! )

Looks like a fair old piece of engineering.

Now the wheels are aligned to the actual cable line it's fine  ;) It was only ever the wear layer that wore (funny that).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 08, 2012, 11:50:36 pm
Then the worst: I lost a ski in Deep Powder for NO REASON, and despite spending over 2 hours probing with the probe and digging with the shuvvel in a carefully set out search zone, no trace was found.   Gave up.

BTDTGTTS paid the feckin' insewerants  :hand:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 09, 2012, 03:43:57 am
This season has been a mixed bag. Loads of snow in early season, but the local mountains have been shit since then. Whistler has been good since Xmas, but there's no point in going there in the Xmas break (over-crowded). Wanted to go today, but my wife needed the car :(.

Forecast for the next week (at whistler) only promises lots of snow tonight and then it dries out again:(. Local mountains it's going to be near spring condition, so I may just go up and pretend it's spring..I guess it's good for falling around in the terrain-park.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 09, 2012, 09:04:07 am

Come on then, tell us about it  ::-)

We're going to Les Arcs in a couple of weeks  :thumbsup:

You can try the new(ish) fangled Vanoise Express and tootle over to La Plagne!

I've not been to either resort since it was built ( and closed / re-opened! )

Looks like a fair old piece of engineering.

You can ... but why? ;)

On the favourite run theme, any of those going down through the trees to Vallandry are great fun, Ours being the one you need to catch the Vanoise Express. (I think Myrtilles was my favourite - if you go down it when it is officially closed but looking OH so inviting, be aware there can be a series of horizontal ditches in evidence across the width.)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on January 09, 2012, 01:25:37 pm
I think the biggest problem with skiing this year was booking the train.  Normally the overnight ski trains can be booked 4 months in advance.  This year they did not appear when expected particularly the St Gervais train.  So I bought my Eurostar tickets fairly early to avoid the huge step in pricing (Rich big brother insists on Standard Premier). Then I was horrified when the sleeper trains didn't appear.  Then the outward train for an earlier Friday was to set off 2 hours early so I would miss that on my date Fri 27 Jan.  Then on the second of January all the Friday night trains finally appeared.  Hastily booked.  But the Saturday night train to get me home did not.  That appeared last week and was booked. Phew. 

I am going to Flaine by train  14:00 Fri 27 Cardiff to Paddington, Underground, St Pancras to Gare du Nord, Metro, Gare d'Austerlitz to Cluses, Bus ( 20km) Cluses to Flaine. 10am Sat 28
In reverse 17:30 Sat 4 Feb Bus Flaine to Cluses, ......  Cardiff Midday Sun 5 Feb.  After 8 glorious days skiing.
 
I find this site interesting for the state of resorts
http://www.skiplan.com/stations-temps-reel/   
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 09, 2012, 08:38:08 pm
Then the worst: I lost a ski in Deep Powder for NO REASON, and despite spending over 2 hours probing with the probe and digging with the shuvvel in a carefully set out search zone, no trace was found.   Gave up.

BTDTGTTS paid the feckin' insewerants  :hand:
Oh dear, I will never hear the end of that will I?

ETA: Though to be fair I *did* have a reason....
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 09, 2012, 08:45:16 pm
Did your insewerants cover such a loss?
We're looking at our policy at the moment.

The reason I ask is that I need to replace them before the Easter Jolly to Breckenridge / Aspen, and there's still stock available at the moment, but it will all be gone if I leave it too long.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 09, 2012, 08:53:35 pm
Bit different, they were hire skis (I don't see the point in owning skis any more for 1 trip a year when there's always the latest 'thing'). One less thing to humph round the airport anyway :)
And I didn't take the shop insurance either (learned that lesson the hard way!). Still, didn't do quite as badly as I expected. I got 5/6ths* of what I had to pay the shop back from the insurers.

*Exact figures hidden to protect the financially innocent (i.e. Pingu).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 09, 2012, 09:30:01 pm
Well, the lost ski was a Salomon Xwing Tornado Ti, now superseded by the Enduro XT 800 / 850 so I'm looking at around £500 ish so I'll be persuing any insurance cover I can.

I know what you mean about renting.
We currently do between 7 -  10 days in Europe at xmas, and then 2 weeks in the US at Easter.
That's been the case for the last 6 or 7 years.
I also try to do a bit in Ecosse, weather depending, but I use OLD skis for that.

At least the kids are no longer doing club racing: That involved around 3 pairs per kid... Drymat skis, training skis, and race skis!
And I was prepping perhaps 4 sets of skis a week!
I should go to the Gordon Skiers kit day and sell the race skis, they are quite specalised and have residual value.
Than perhaps my store room would look less like Craigdon Mountain Sports.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 09, 2012, 09:48:56 pm
I like having my own skis because it means that (1) I'm not at the mercy of the rental shop, and decent skis are £££ to rent, too (2) I can set them up how I like, giving me better performance on ice especially over shop setup.

I've had a few pairs off this chap http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Barolas24/SKI-SNOWBOARD-/_i.html?_fsub=3037133&_sid=272472030&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322 in Greece - current are a set of bulldozers Streetracer10 bought brand new a couple of years ago at the end of the season for not much (£200-ish !!!), they're still in very good nick a the moment, when I've had enough of them, tart them up, sharpen and wax, put 'em on eBay and I'll probably get what I paid for them :) (except I can't imagine a better ski for me these days)

Done that with a couple of pairs before (Crossmax, Equipe 3v).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 09, 2012, 10:09:11 pm
I can set them up how I like, giving me better performance on ice especially over shop setup.

Right.
With proper edge guides and base guides, you can set the edge angles as you like.

Because of the racing the kids were doing, I was pushing the side-edges from the factory-default of 89 deg to a more agressive 87 or so, giving a more agressive edge.  This also gives much better performance on ice *if* you are able to apply downward pressure on the edge correctly ( ie you can carve properly without side-slipping in normal snow ).   If you are pushing out rather than down, then it will skitter away just the same.

On the slalom skis,  I reduced the base-edge bevel from 1 degree down to 0.5, so the edges set earlier when rolling onto them, but any less can make them twitchy and unstable at speed in straight line, as the edges will 'catch' more easily.

I *may* have adjusted my rental skis which I needed this year, but they can't prove nuffink.
Frankly, then edges were very poorly set up out of the shop.
Using a marker pen and gentle file to determine the angles, they were all over the place.
I wonder if they will notice the increased side-edge angle.   I doubt it.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 09, 2012, 10:24:41 pm
I really CBA to bugger around when I'm there, I don't suppose you need a bench, but it does make it easier, strength to your elbow, if you do.

http://www.jonsskituning.co.uk/component/page,shop.product_details/flypage,shop.flypage/product_id,25/category_id,16/manufacturer_id,0/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,1/ is what I use for the base, with a Toko adjustable for the edge (@ 87 ;) ) You did know about Jon's Tuning, didn't you ? http://www.jonsskituning.co.uk/index.php If not, I will not be held responsible for spending on bits you didn't know you needed. (his wax is pretty good, too)

I *may* have adjusted my rental skis which I needed this year, but they can't prove nuffink.
Frankly, then edges were very poorly set up out of the shop.
Using a marker pen and gentle file to determine the angles, they were all over the place.
I wonder if they will notice the increased side-edge angle.   I doubt it.

'sactly
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 09, 2012, 10:41:22 pm
Thx for the links.

I'm well kitted-up, and carry a complete service kit with me when I go away for more than a week or so, which raises eyebrows at the far end usually.

I have a fold-away bench, a set of vices, edge files of various grades including moonflex diamond stones, base and side edge guides, holmenkol wax iron, various waxes ( toko, holmenkol, data ) for various temperatures, scrapers, brushes, and a p-tex repair gun and p-tex for base repairs.

This all fits into an old Salomon snow-blade bag which is very small but weighs many Kg!
Depending on snow conditions, I'll give the skis a quick once-over every few days.

Yes, I'm probably barking mad.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 10, 2012, 07:06:08 am
We're now considering taking a trip to Revelstoke (http://www.revelstokemountainresort.com/), as the snow seems to be lacking here. 6 hours drive, which would mean making it a long weekend to make it worthwhile...it's supposed to have some of the best West coast powder, even if it's mostly a 'skiing' terrain.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 10, 2012, 08:48:04 am
Thx for the links.

I'm well kitted-up, and carry a complete service kit with me when I go away for more than a week or so, which raises eyebrows at the far end usually.

I have a fold-away bench, a set of vices, edge files of various grades including moonflex diamond stones, base and side edge guides, holmenkol wax iron, various waxes ( toko, holmenkol, data ) for various temperatures, scrapers, brushes, and a p-tex repair gun and p-tex for base repairs.

This all fits into an old Salomon snow-blade bag which is very small but weighs many Kg!
Depending on snow conditions, I'll give the skis a quick once-over every few days.

Yes, I'm probably barking mad.

<gadget envy> Oh yeah? </gadget envy>
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on January 10, 2012, 03:29:43 pm
I buy my skis. I use the formula have a minimum of 10 weeks skiing.  Multiply weeks by cost of 6 day hire, subtract ski service and ski transport costs. This figure is the budget for the next pair of skis.  The cost of the skis I use well within budget.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 11, 2012, 07:00:55 am
Aha, decent sized dump forecast for Saturday!
http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Whistler-Blackcomb/6day/mid
I know where I'm going this Sunday!! It's going be quite chilly, though, so I think I need to buy some mid-weight long johns.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on January 11, 2012, 07:11:49 am
I buy my skis. I use the formula have a minimum of 10 weeks skiing.  Multiply weeks by cost of 6 day hire, subtract ski service and ski transport costs. This figure is the budget for the next pair of skis.  The cost of the skis I use well within budget.

I like to be able to take the skis into the shop if the conditions change and get a different type of ski, or swap the whole ski-boots combo for touring kit. My ideal day out is off piste from the top lift, with some skinning and lunch at a refuge on the way down. That's got a bit pricey to do every day with the state of the £, as Heather likes the security of a guide, so it's something we would do on a good day. I've got used to what Jean Sports in Val d'Isere can provide. I've got a set of old touring skis that I use for skiing in England when conditions allow.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on January 11, 2012, 11:26:20 am
I bought my skis a couple of years ago based on the fact it would be cheaper to buy a pair of end-of-season skis than it was going to cost me to hire for the 2.5 weeks in Canada that I had planned for that season.

Yes I might not get the newest thing going each year, but on the odd occasion I've rented I've been given really awful skis. So I tend to just stick to my own now. Even with the cost of carriage and paying to get them serviced I'm still at a financial advantage.

More importantly, you can fit a box of wine, box removed, in the sport tube I transport them around in, just in case there isn't enough in the chalet. Hic.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 11, 2012, 12:05:07 pm
just in case there isn't enough in the chalet. Hic.

That situation should never happen.
On a chalet-based holliberry, first order of business is to discover where the chalet hosts stash the grog  :demon:

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on January 11, 2012, 09:38:38 pm
Give me a clear run down Face anyday..

Oh go on then.....

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7027/6680870843_d6822e6310.jpg)

Week in Val d'Isere just booked for 11th March. Yay!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on January 11, 2012, 09:44:38 pm
I've always found the Epaule de Charvet more demanding.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 11, 2012, 09:53:18 pm
Last year, our apartment was ski-in / ski-out (ish) access from about 200m from the bottom of Face.   Tended to be very icy on the lower half ( below where the Bellevarde Express chair reaches ).  Epaule is fine, but it does end up in the crowded Santons gulley, and then a bit of a pole out at the bottom.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on January 11, 2012, 10:07:51 pm
I thought the Epaule was OK but I only skiied it the once as I am quite happy to avoid Santons. Face in the afternoon once it has been chopped up and icy is not very pleasant, but in the morning is ace (but still always scares me for some reason).

My least favourite run in Val is Foret under the Fornet lift. It wasn't marked as an ungroomed piste the year I skiied descended it, but it clearly hadn't been groomed once during the season. Narrow, icy and moguls that felt like they were as big as me. No likey one bit.

I once was a participant in a race down Face: skiier versus L'Olympique. The skiier won but promptly had to puke at the bottom. It was pretty impressive watching and waving at him from the lift on the way down.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 11, 2012, 10:37:42 pm
But if you ski Epaule you miss the fun bit of Santons (assuming there are few enough on it to let it be fun)

I think that shows how unsophisticated I are
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 11, 2012, 10:45:16 pm
The only way to have any fun on Santons is to stay well up on the sides away from the masses in the bottom of the gulley.   There will be one stationary person per mogul down there.  Keep up on the side walls and blast past them.

And once you can see the bottom flat secton, you need to go flat out from as high up as you dare to avoid tedious polling, and hope you don't have to shave off speed to avoid someone.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 12, 2012, 08:21:51 am
I once was a participant in a race down Face: skiier versus L'Olympique. The skiier won but promptly had to puke at the bottom.

Nothing to do with La Folie Douce, that, eh? (My daughter's favourite part of the resort.

And I just realised (after checking) - it's a two-faced resort! TBH I wondered what you were talking about, as the Face I went down a few times (Grande Motte) was very nice but not all that remarkable and wasn't black. I missed the real one, it appears.

Oh, and Feanor, the alternative Santons approach was to have enough speed to go high enough up the sides to see behind easily on the turn, then decide to either stay up, swing down round a mogul and back up or cross to the other side. As you say, avoiding those trying to ski a flat path in the middle (and often failing). As I think I said upthread, an example of the odd grading in Tignes, maybe if they graded it red it would make it more fun for all ? OK, no way is it difficult, but if you can't ski it properly then it becomes narrow and difficult, so it becomes a victim of its own estimation. I went down it with a mixed group of generally competent but unadventurous skiers and at the end I really didn't understand why just about everyone else was moaning (btw, I wouldn't describe myself as adventurous, just reasonably enthusiastic). I don't think I'll ever understand the slope grading criteria or psychology, though.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on January 12, 2012, 08:45:40 am
I once was a participant in a race down Face: skiier versus L'Olympique. The skiier won but promptly had to puke at the bottom.

Nothing to do with La Folie Douce, that, eh? (My daughter's favourite part of the resort.

 ;D On this occasion no it was only mid-morning when this was attempted

I'm actually staying in La Daille in March so the Folie Douce will only be a short ski away from my bed. This might be a bad thing.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 12, 2012, 10:52:56 am
All resorts have their grading 'oddities', often for political ( small p ) reasons.

They will want to show a certain 'mix' of grades for the resort stats; they will not want any area to look 'inaccessible', so they may down-grade an access route; they will have targets in relation to what percentage of runs are groomed overnight in each category, and they may want to play with that.

Many runs are over-graded (IMHO ) on the basis of one short steepish section.
The biggest factor is conditions on-the-day, and gradings don't really help with that.

I don't really concern myself with colours, and sometimes it's necessary to stand in a strategic spot to obscure the coloured markers from someone who is over-obsessed with the colours yet perfectly capable of doing the run otherwise.   If they do spot the colours half-way down, then you need to remain at least a ski-pole whacking distance ahead of them  :)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 12, 2012, 12:33:28 pm
Plenty of blue runs down to various resorts which are a total 'mare late on in the day when the following add up: in shadow, getting a little icy and are heaving with the god awful mix of the timid and the inconsiderate. Nothing wrong with the run itself, just having to pick your way through all the human remains on it.
Yes, Happy Valley, I'm looking at you.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 12, 2012, 01:00:24 pm
Plenty of blue runs down to various resorts which are a total 'mare late on in the day when the following add up: in shadow, getting a little icy and are heaving with the god awful mix of the timid and the inconsiderate snowboarders. Nothing wrong with the run itself, just having to pick your way through all the human remains on it.
Yes, Happy Valley, I'm looking at you.

FTFY

I'm not at all colour prejudiced, I will often choose the empty blue over a crowded red or black (except, slope over path, any day) but the colours do influence people's choices and, as Feanor says, the reason for the grading is not always clear.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 12, 2012, 01:04:58 pm
Haha, I'd rather go for the empty black rather than the crowded blue! Whichever one's got the least likelihood of 'death squadron rally' as my brother puts it....
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 12, 2012, 01:12:54 pm
I used this photo in the Guess the Place thread. It's of Mont Fort in Verbier as seen from the top of Mt Gélé.
 
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6057/6326334383_383cda564d_z.jpg)

And here is my post discussing the categorisation of the runs down from the top.

Quote
The cabin is the top of the cable car. Directly underneath it is the black, and off to the right is the (laughingly categorised) red. At least it was when I was there. I understand now that the red is a black and the black is a 'high mountain tour'.

The story was that TéléVerbier categorised the lesser of the two runs as red to encourage people to buy the Mont Fort extension for their lift pass. The problem with the red was that to get to it it was necessary to undertake the walk of death on a severely rutted and icy track, to then be faced with one of the more horrific entries to a marked run in the Alps (and certainly so for a 'red' run). Once there, there really was no turning back. I saw two people fall to their deaths there in the course of two seasons.

The black on the other hand had the distinct advantage of not requiring any perilous walk, you simply exited the cable car, turned left instead of right, clicked your skis on and set off. This was always a heart stopping moment. The face is convex at this point, so you couldn't see beyond about four (massive) moguls down. If you didn't make that first turn (and there was only one place to make that turn) it was a very long and very bumpy way down. Never before or since has the word 'commitment' had such relevance to me.

Resorts all need to have a range of coloured slopes. If the resort is simply steeper all round then the blues are tougher than in a resort that isn't on average as steep.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on January 12, 2012, 01:15:20 pm
Difficulty mostly depends on the conditions.  I have descended the Sache black in Tignes.  Many people have difficulty in the fenced narrow steep section.  It is usually heavily mogulled and filled with other timid skiers reducing your turn points and can be very difficult for otherwise competent skiers.  I have also done this piste when it was icy flat, that was easy for me but I saw some fallers.  I have also done it in flat old cold snow (first opening for the year), my skis cut deeply into the snow exposing blue snow. The turns were hard work but a fascinating descent.

Icy can make pistes fun.  My favourite illustration of this.  I was on a chairlift which used to climb out of Motteret toward Courchevel when twenty or so Courchevel 1850 ESF instructors were coming down from Saulire  in a long line about 20 seconds apart.  They came to turn in the piste.  I reckon about a third of them slipped and fell,  very entertaining.

The worst conditions is thick fog.  I was descending Creux blue in Tignes when poor conditions took a turn for the worse.  I could not see my feet.  I took a couple of minutes inching from pole to pole feeling very sick from the motion. I returned back up Tommeuse then down Piste H(enri) which was not quite so bad and finished early that afternoon.

The other hard snow is avalanche debris.  I did not expect to find it on a flat blue run just above Arc1950.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: mark on January 12, 2012, 01:32:04 pm
sometimes it's necessary to stand in a strategic spot to obscure the coloured markers from someone who is over-obsessed with the colours yet perfectly capable of doing the run otherwise.   If they do spot the colours half-way down, then you need to remain at least a ski-pole whacking distance ahead of them  :)

I did that to an entire class of kids back in my instructor days. They were more than capable of skiing easy blacks, but the sight of a black diamond on a trail sign scared them. I led them through some trees to avoid the trail sign and they skied the run beautifully but they kept asking why it was so steep. A few other skiers on the run helped me out by joining in with my assurances that "yes, it really is a blue run", until they finally realized that they were skiing quite well and enjoying themselves. After I showed them where they had been on a trail map, they were pretty pleased with themselves.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 12, 2012, 07:25:27 pm
Plenty of blue runs down to various resorts which are a total 'mare late on in the day when the following add up: in shadow, getting a little icy and are heaving with the god awful mix of the timid and the arrogant skiers. Nothing wrong with the run itself, just having to pick your way through all the human remains on it.
Yes, Happy Valley, I'm looking at you.

FTFY

Don't think you got it quite right....

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 12, 2012, 08:31:33 pm
sometimes it's necessary to stand in a strategic spot to obscure the coloured markers from someone who is over-obsessed with the colours yet perfectly capable of doing the run otherwise.   If they do spot the colours half-way down, then you need to remain at least a ski-pole whacking distance ahead of them  :)

I did that to an entire class of kids back in my instructor days. They were more than capable of skiing easy blacks, but the sight of a black diamond on a trail sign scared them. I led them through some trees to avoid the trail sign and they skied the run beautifully but they kept asking why it was so steep. A few other skiers on the run helped me out by joining in with my assurances that "yes, it really is a blue run", until they finally realized that they were skiing quite well and enjoying themselves. After I showed them where they had been on a trail map, they were pretty pleased with themselves.

Mark,

I see your location is Frisco!

Clan Feanor are to be found in Breck every easter,and I know Frisco fairly well.
 ( We do a week in Breck, and a week in Aspen Snowmass usually ).

I've posted these before, but thought I'd re-post for your benefit.

This is Junior #1 on the Lake Chutes, an EX Double-black diamond run in Breckenridge, Co.
He's 12 at the time I filmed this ( last year ).

Normally, when I photo or film ski footage, you don't get any sense of steepness.
You do here.
All the action is in the first 10 seconds or so.
You need to look at him as he traverses over and sizes up the first ( committing ) turn.
It's worth pausing it and looking at it at this point.
He can reach out and touch the wall with his hand.
Observe the first turn: look at the rate he drops till he gets his edges set as he completes the turn, and drops out of view.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcegfjNmv18

That's it, I'm afraid.
My camera-work is total crap, because I can't see the screen in the bright sun-light, so I'm just pointing it in the general direction.
It's not worth viewing beyond when he drops out-of-sight.

To those of you who have never tried such stuff, I can tell you this is *very* steep, at 50 degrees, and very committing.
Here's the sign at the top of the hike you need to make to get there:

(http://www.lowe-family.me.uk/DSCF1521-small.JPG)





Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: mark on January 12, 2012, 10:31:49 pm
Impressive! Before the Imperial chairlift was built I enjoyed hiking from the top of the T-bar to the summit of Peak 8, then either skiing down Imperial Bowl or traversing over to the Lake Chutes. That whole area saw a lot less traffic and was far more satisfying to those who did go there before the Imperial Chair was built.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on January 12, 2012, 10:58:42 pm
At the top of the Solaise area in Val is a run called 3000, it's got huge moguls and a narrow section usually, and then a steep section that's often moguled as well. That's easy compared to the run you can do if you go through the rarely opened Tunnel near the top of 3000. Good practice for survival skiing. We had a practice run before suggesting it to friends, you'd only do it to complete the set.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3uFDhBQj7Q
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 12, 2012, 10:59:13 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d9oSCoCxIc
:)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Tewdric on January 12, 2012, 11:04:25 pm
At the top of the Solaise area in Val is a run called 3000, it's got huge moguls and a narrow section usually, and then a steep section that's often moguled as well. That's easy compared to the run you can do if you go through the rarely opened Tunnel near the top of 3000. Good practice for survival skiing. We had a practice run before suggesting it to friends, you'd only do it to complete the set.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3uFDhBQj7Q

I did that once -never again!  I think I managed two turns, which were really swings round my pole then stop again!  The rest was side slipping, following a snowplough through the tunnel!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on January 12, 2012, 11:31:35 pm
3000 is one of two lifts forbidden for snowboards in the Espace Killy, you sometimes see the odd boarder on Signal, but I've never seen one on 3000.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Tewdric on January 13, 2012, 12:30:04 am
It looks like next week could provide the best alpine skiing conditions for years, if not decades.  High pressure moving in to provide still, sunny weather on top of the repeated dumps they've just had.   This little 7 week old fellow I'm looking at now is more than adequate compensation for precluding me skiing for quite a while, but I am a little gutted I can't get out to Val.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on January 13, 2012, 09:25:41 am
I've never seen the tunnel open the few times I've been so I think it is now probably the only black I've not skied in Val.

When I skied 3000, I was with my ski buddy and a group of dirty crusty old men from the chalet we were staying in. Apparently I squealed on every turn. I won't tell you what comments were made..... ::-) ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on January 13, 2012, 09:32:20 am
Having just watched ESL's video, I'm glad it's always closed!!!!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 13, 2012, 09:47:20 am
Miss Ham reports perfect skiing at the moment in Val (yes, she's back again with her uni) if anything a little too much sun ..... (melting snow)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on January 13, 2012, 09:49:44 am
I always thought the hardest part of 3000 was the drag lift. Skiers desperate to find flatter snow create equally large moguls on the drag path.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 13, 2012, 03:26:22 pm
It looks like next week could provide the best alpine skiing conditions for years, if not decades.  High pressure moving in to provide still, sunny weather on top of the repeated dumps they've just had.

Let's hope so, we're away tomorrow  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 13, 2012, 06:35:27 pm
I believe the appropiate response is:

Git.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 13, 2012, 07:02:46 pm
And double git :)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 14, 2012, 11:22:16 am
It's puking with snow in downtown Vancouver right now...which means that the local mountains will awesome tomorrow...
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 15, 2012, 06:33:21 am
In fact, they got 17cm overnight. With the morning being busy and having a full day at Whistler tomorrow anyway, I decided just to go up to Cypress Mountain in the evening (when it's cheapest anyway) and do a handful of runs. I've also been struggling a bit with the setup of my board after I had a full tune-up done (base-grind, etc) and wanted to make sure that I now had the edges dialed in. The green runs were in pretty good condition and even the side-hits werent too crusty/icy. The blue runs were not too great, with the slope allowing the fresh snow to be scraped off, but the black runs had seen relatively little traffic and were pretty good.
Turned out that the the skychair (the highest lift) had been closed most of the day and with the sky having cleared, there was still stashes to be found in the unlit tree-runs.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/385814_2985242427350_1150685646_3190231_1424817402_n.jpg)

Not a bad way to spend a Saturday evening :)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 16, 2012, 08:05:57 am
Our driver overslept and we never made it to Whistler :(..not too big a loss, as they only got a little fresh snow and much more is forecast for next weekend.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 16, 2012, 03:30:00 pm
No powder here whatsoever :(
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 16, 2012, 09:37:38 pm
Never mind, Mrs. P.
At least you won't loose a ski  :demon:

Stay high and perfect your carves on the groomers.
Looking for clean-cut tracks with no snow-flurries indicating side-slipping.
The kids love blue / red runs in good condition, because they can blast them like they did in race training.   I try to keep up.  Sometimes I mange.
Kick off from the edge of the piste to find what there is.
Pretend the piste markers are slalom poles. ( but not too much: don't x-block them, they are not bendy poles and it will hurt! )

Have fun.

R
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 16, 2012, 11:25:04 pm
Hit the terrain park!

Forecast for Whistler this week:
(http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/weathericons/17.gif)
 ;D ;D ;D

I know where I'll be next weekend :)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 16, 2012, 11:26:02 pm
Oh and to contrast the earlier skier video

http://vimeo.com/34177578

  :D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on January 20, 2012, 01:06:50 pm
Only a week to go before I head off.  Looking at www.snow-forecast.com it seems the ample snow depth at resort level (150cm almost anywhere in the Haute Savoie) will be topped up by another 50cm in the next week.  ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 21, 2012, 12:15:05 pm
Oh Dear.

I appear to have accidentally bought a new pair of skis, to replace the one I lost in deep powder  ;D

Went into Tiso to buy some minor trinkets and noticed the skis I was looking for were discounted at £160 off, and then my discount card gave me a further 10% off.

Oh, here's how to grind with style:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlmTWfmRJbw
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 21, 2012, 12:46:12 pm
Our arrival back home is going to be somewhat delayed by the dump of new snow that appeared, just as we're leaving, humph.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 21, 2012, 12:48:32 pm
<Jesse's Diets> Mostly this week, I are bin doin' moguls, laats an' laats of 'em <etc >
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 22, 2012, 02:36:34 pm
Some pics of Les Arcs (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/sets/72157628980801861/)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 23, 2012, 07:59:55 am
Tried to get up Whistler on Saturday, but the roads were treacherous (black ice) and after seeing 3 accidents, I turned around, despite knowing that some of the best snow of the year was waiting. (Even with winter tires,  it was very marginal)
It was supposed to be too warm for the local mountains to be worthwhile, but the temperature dropped and I headed up there with a friend this afternoon and it was awesome. Sure, it wasn't 'dry' powder, but because the weather (and the roads) had been pretty bad, there was no people on the mountain and one side of it was closed due to wind. The other side was pretty good, but then they opened the main side and we had nighttime 'first tracks' on most of the runs.

Awesome finish to a pretty crappy weekend.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 10, 2012, 11:12:11 am
Off to La Plagne - bye all!!!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on February 10, 2012, 05:57:56 pm
Enjoy  :)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on February 18, 2012, 10:31:54 pm
Just back from Flaine.

What an ugly place, but impossible to fault this year's snow and the fantastic skiing. I think we're heading back there.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on February 19, 2012, 12:29:56 pm
I think the older part of Flaine's architecture is honest and consistent.  I find the modern copies of Valmorel style wood clad concrete buildings dishonest.  These Heidi boxes are totally unsuitable for the high mountains. They need a lot of maintenance or look terrible after a few years.  Low lying Valmorel built in the early seventies is honest they designed it in the now ubiquitous wood clad style before anyone else had thought of it to create one of the least brutal resorts ever built.  It amused me when the Tour de France climbed over the Col De Madelaine Paul Sherwin announced as they rode through St Francois Longchamp, the cheaply built undesigned tower block and concrete bunker sister resort to Valmorel as one of the prettiest ski resorts in the alps.  I think it is good when a resort has a style.  Look at the original buildings Arc 1600 with its funny shaped sheared designs.  Arc 2000 has its ski jump roofs.  Arc 1800 has no obvious design.  Arc 2000 minus fifty is unremarkable but I admit I like it, not as much as skiing through it before it was there though.    Courchevel recently demolished its authentic post office building and replaced it with a Heidi box.   Les Menuires, renowned as the ugliest resort blew up one of their oldest signature blocks a few years ago.  It was a little sad.  One of the older farmers said it was the best thing that ever happened to this valley it brought electricity and water mains up the valley and "we we allowed to use the showers".  The communal wash rooms are less acceptable these days, and nobody wanted to refurbish that ugly building. Flaine Forum built in the early 1980s had a white painted concrete design that was continued in the later Flaine Foret.  The newest parts Montsoleil and Les Gerats are Heidi boxes.
   
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 20, 2012, 08:56:53 am
Just back from La Plagne in all it's bizarre architectural glory. I've always maintained that the best reason to go to Aime La Plagne  is so you don't have to look at it. Overall I'd put the entire resort somewhere in the lower middle ranges of overall rankings, with some parts - Soleil, Belle Plagne reasonably attractive. Of course there are some butt-ugly buildings (The whole of Bellecote, Aime, La France in Centre etc) but somehow it isn't too bad, maybe because there are so many ridges the buildings get blocked from view very quickly.

My favourite of the French resort is Arc 1950, probably the most recent to be designed, all wood clad, ski in - ski out from everywhere, no roads at all (access and deliveries from the car park underneath the whole resort)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on February 26, 2012, 05:03:35 am
Had a pretty epic day at Mt. Baker today...and almost more snow than I could handle. (They had more than a meter in the last week, 50+ cm yesterday!)
Got stuck a couple of times in chest-high snow and it took me more than 15 minutes to crawl out.
And talking about architecture, Mt. Baker has none...being a national park, it's not a resort and the nearest village is 30 mins drive away...but the terrain is wide, varied and open, with easy backcountry access.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on March 07, 2012, 01:17:19 pm
I normally have two weeks a year.  This would be the second week but I ski with my brother and he could not go because a colleague on the same shift wanted a winter sun holiday. So I am sitting in the office as usual  >:(
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on March 11, 2012, 10:34:27 pm
I arrived in Val d'Isere today. It's gonna be an awesome week.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 11, 2012, 10:47:29 pm
I arrived in Val d'Isere today. It's gonna be an awesome week.

Show us yer pictures so I can get proper jealous   ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on March 12, 2012, 10:24:04 am
I arrived in Val d'Isere today. It's gonna be an awesome week.

You asked for it: Git!  :thumbsup:

Have fun, Espace Killy is great.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on March 12, 2012, 04:51:23 pm
It is boiling here. T shirt weather. Great for sun tan but snow is a bit slushy lower down. Went and did Sache today which was brilliant for the most part but the last 5 piste markers were moguled and slushy which was hard work.

Apparently they've completely closed the 3000 drag lift, so much as it disappoints me, I will now never get a chance to do the tunnel. The shame ;)

Went to the Folie Douce on our way back to the chalet. Always good fun.

There is a guy in the chalet who does audaxes  ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on March 13, 2012, 02:39:54 pm
Went and did Sache today which was brilliant for the most part but the last 5 piste markers were moguled and slushy which was hard work.

The place where Mrs P had a sense of humour failure a few years ago  ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on March 13, 2012, 02:48:45 pm
In the last narrow section just before an it joins the red 'Pavot' run into Tignes les Brevieres ( nice lunch spot ), it does indeed get moguled, and the slush of which you speak will freeze into rock-hard icy lumps overnight.

The short section of the red pavot run is also often an ice-fest.

The scene of many a hissy-fit, I'm sure.
The trick is to remain > ski-pole-whacking distance ahead...
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on March 13, 2012, 02:52:52 pm
The trick is to remain > ski-pole-whacking distance ahead...

I did, the moguls didn't.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on March 14, 2012, 05:11:02 pm
It is 11 deg here so pretty toasty. We did Face before 10am today and the bit where it actually gets a bit steep was already getting chopped up and slushy!!!!

So after that we went over to the glacier above Le Fornet which was fabulous. The snow over there was amazing and they've now opened a very reasonably priced restaurant there as well which makes it much more sociable. It is perhaps not quite as nice as the Tignes glacier, but far less crowded. That might have something to do with X games which are ongoing in Tignes this week. We sat and watched a bit yesterday, it was totally gnarly. Dude. Or something.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on March 17, 2012, 10:17:53 pm
It's a bit crazy here in PNW. Mt Baker had 110inches in 6 days...that's almost 3 meters!. (They then also had a massive avalanche on Thursday, which carried into the lower runs...luckily no one got hurt)

We're heading to Whistler tomorrow. It's been pummeled by snow as well, but I suspect most of the powder will have been tracked out by tomorrow...we should still have 10cm or so fresh snow to play with, on top of a relatively soft snowpack.

Main problem is that we're on 6 day weeks at work at the moment, so it's a bit of a struggle to get up.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on March 27, 2012, 10:05:13 pm
Should be heading to Whistler again this weekend. Sun might be out in the alpine, so it's time for the sunscreen to come out too!.
Lots of snow forecast for the weekdays, so with a bit of luck, there may still be stashes of pow to be found.
I'm definitely not ready for spring yet...
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 30, 2012, 10:35:32 am
Know it happens all the time, but sad all the same - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/9173743/Charterhouse-tributes-paid-to-star-teacher-killed-in-650ft-Val-DIsere-ski-crash.html

(  the Face connection is why it's here rather than being ghoulish - I  may be wrong but I thought Rocher du charvet is around Face?)

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on March 30, 2012, 10:37:50 pm
Finishing up packing for departure tomorrow AM.

Fly to Denver tomorrow, pick up hire car.
Drive to Snowmass village, Aspen for 1st week.

Then back to Breckenridge for the second week.

The snow report is looking like rather 'Spring' conditions...
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: mark on March 31, 2012, 01:58:31 am
Finishing up packing for departure tomorrow AM.

Fly to Denver tomorrow, pick up hire car.
Drive to Snowmass village, Aspen for 1st week.

Then back to Breckenridge for the second week.

The snow report is looking like rather 'Spring' conditions...
That would be the resort-speak version of 'Spring' conditions. I think more people are riding bicycles around Summit County than are skiing.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on April 01, 2012, 12:51:09 am
Whistler will be open until at least May 28th...and is still getting loads of powder. (and I'm still stuck in the office, slaving away).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on April 10, 2012, 12:41:01 am
Then back to Breckenridge for the second week.
The snow report is looking like rather 'Spring' conditions...
That would be the resort-speak version of 'Spring' conditions. I think more people are riding bicycles around Summit County than are skiing.

Well, just arrived in Breck from Aspen.   Both had a bad snow season, but I'd say Aspen Snowmass has held up better than Breck.

You're right: there were an impressive number of cyclists out in Frisco, and on the lanes around Breck.

Still, we just had our first day out here, and though there's a surprising amount shut, there's also plenty to do, if you go look for it.
Imperial chair is running, giving access ( with some hiking over rocky outcrops ) to the gated terrain above peak 7 ( Whale's tail, Art's bowle ) and to the Lake Chutes.   Imperial Bowl itself is bare.

The gated terrain to the outside of Peak 10 is closed, mostly because the flat trail out is bare.
But The Burn side of peak 10 is still passable, with care, popping out onto barest Upper Lehman I've ever seen.

I've been toying with my new Edge 800 cycle GPS: it fits in a pocket well:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/166548529

--
Ron
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on April 20, 2012, 06:57:38 pm
Off to Val d'Isere on Sunday, via York for an LEL meeting, then Coventry to visit a friend in hospital, on to West London to drop off some stuff a friend left at our house, then on to Gatwick for a night in the car prior to a 7am flight. The forecast is for lots of snow, so we might find ourselves staring into murk. Wish us luck.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on April 20, 2012, 06:58:47 pm
Good luck!

(Walsgrave?)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on April 30, 2012, 08:59:24 pm
It was the usual clash of cultures at the final week in Val. We lucked out with our two days off-piste, we'd normally be walking to find a couple of pitches of heavy powder, or be skiing spring snow, but we had two days of powder, the rest of the week was varied, by the time we left it was raining hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkgPSu52-s4&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on April 30, 2012, 10:25:01 pm
mmmmmmmmm
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on July 10, 2012, 11:21:23 am
Booked for Christmas!! Woop woop!

Meribel, 22 - 29 December. I will have a 3V ski pass going cheap if anyone is interested
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on July 10, 2012, 09:55:23 pm
Booked for Christmas!! Woop woop!

Meribel, 22 - 29 December. I will have a 3V ski pass going cheap if anyone is interested

We'll be in Petit-Russia-Sur-Les-Alps ( Courchevel 1850 ) around similar times!
Will reply to this thread with further details nearer the time.

We're travelling out just after xmas, and will be there over new year, as we usually do...

<SIGH> Just reminded me: I have base PTEX repairs to do on at least 2 skis.   But I'm not going to look at that untill at least November.

AND...
There's the possibility that the ski I lost in powder last year might have found it's way to lost property in 1850.   That's what happens to the detritus when the snow melts, and they keep it for a year.   If it does, I've promised the pair to a cycling buddy who donated me a group-set a year ago for a cheap-build for Junior to ride the Ullapool sportives.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Analog Kid on July 10, 2012, 10:03:23 pm
mmmm.....not fair this. Been skiing in January every year since 1989 but next season looks unlikely.

Don't think I'll have the muscle back after I trashed my right femur last January falling down a mogul slope.

Boo !
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on July 26, 2012, 07:19:53 am
The season is not quite dead yet!. They open the Blackcomb glacier every year and I finally managed to get up there. Snowboarding in 24 degree sunshine is an experience!. (And in fact, as long as it was well groomed, it wasn't too bad too ride in). Only bad thing is that I'm recovering from an ingrown toe-nail, so any jumps, tricks, hard turns had me grimacing in pain, so I ended cutting the day short.
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/552680_4111892672902_1682363646_n.jpg)

Also saw three of these guys, grazing under the liftlines on the way down
(https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/426957_4111900073087_393493421_n.jpg)

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on August 29, 2012, 08:12:57 am
Just booked for next year :D :thumbsup:

A week in Chamonix, for various reasons has to be start of April, so I'll take a bike if it's warm
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on October 02, 2012, 11:35:27 pm
Whoops! I just appear to have had a little Feb half term finger click accident in Val Cenis (in the Maurienne Valley). At 800 euro for the week including two lift passes it would have been positively rude not to.

(Don't forget I still have 3 Valley pass going cheap for xmas week!)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on October 03, 2012, 01:16:13 pm
We're going to Val d'Isere for a week in January  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: mark on October 16, 2012, 12:03:15 am
Thought people might want to know: http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20121015/SPORTS/121019863/1078&ParentProfile=1055
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on October 16, 2012, 04:26:27 am
Thought people might want to know: http://www.summitdaily.com/article/20121015/SPORTS/121019863/1078&ParentProfile=1055

It's a tow-rope on a bunny hill. I'd struggle to call that for 'opening' :D

Meanwhile, at Whistler:
(https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/527772_10151132775183402_1014844766_n.jpg)
Nov 24 is scheduled opening day. Weather bods are giving conflicting forecast, with some saying it's going to be an El Nino year, others saying more wet/cold than average.

I bought a seasons pass for one of the local mountains (Cypress) and we've booked Xmas at Sun Peaks, with ski-in/out :D. Biggest challenge will be managing work pressure, so that I can get at least one weeknight on the slopes.

I also bought new boots at the pre-season sale, so now I just need to get my wife's ski to the shop to get her bindings calibrated to her new boots.
Got new roof rack/ski rack for the car and will order snow tires soon. (Still trying to get a deal locally, rather than importing from the US).

Goal this year is to get comfortable on the medium park jumps and nail a decent 360.

Bring on the snow!.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on October 17, 2012, 12:52:53 pm
My plan for this season is The Dolomites at Christmas. Nice cruising skiing around the Sella Ronda.
In March I will arrive at the Arc en Ciel funicular at the end of Bourg St Maurice station and be whisked up to Arc 1600 to catch a Navette to Arc 2000. Nice warm sunny skiing at high speed. Maybe hire a guide and go down the back of Aguille Rouge legally.

The french alps were white yesterday. Most of it will melt away but it is a start.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on October 17, 2012, 01:52:21 pm
... I will arrive at the Arc en Ciel funicular ....

Mind you don't bungle it ;-)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on October 22, 2012, 09:28:33 am
First snow on local mountains today.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/c49.0.403.403/p403x403/292741_10151202557284861_1482124545_n.jpg)
Skies cleared in the afternoon, revealing pretty white mountain tops for the first time!
 Last year one of them opened on Nov 8 (although it was kinda crappy) and they have new improved snow making equipment, so I hope somewhere around the same time.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on November 05, 2012, 04:40:11 pm
Anyone know what the rules on snow chains are in France? We're driving to Chamonix in late March for a week
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 05, 2012, 05:00:11 pm
You won't get up a mountain to a resort without them when it is snowing, otherwise local conditions may dictate they are sensible but most main roads are kept clear. Chamonix resort itself is quite low, and the roads are normally clear, late March SHOULD be alright, but I wouldn't drive around without having a set in the boot.

If your car is not VW/Audi/BMW big wheel/small clearances, you are just as well off picking up a cheap set in France. See which are recommended here http://www.snowchains.co.uk/snowchains/ and post result if you would like comment.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on November 05, 2012, 09:34:53 pm
Anyone know what the rules on snow chains are in France? We're driving to Chamonix in late March for a week

You'll be fine in Chamonix as it is so low at only 1050 metres, the autoroute is always well tended and right up until the Mont Blanc Tunnel is never a problem by virtue of the traffic levels alone, but you need chains for the back roads or if you're in say Argentiere which is a bit higher and much less well travelled.
As suggested buy the chains over there at a supermarket outside the ski area (Sallanches before big viaduct as Autoroute Blanche ends) is nearest to the resort but at normalish prices, most supermarkets have 9mm chains which will fit most cars that are on profiles above 45 or 50.

What size wheels/tyres have you got, I've 195/65/15 chains (and most tyre variations on that circumference 245/50/17-205/45/17 I think for starters) here in Merseyside that you can borrow if I'm not working out there at the time (and no-one else dibs them first). I've even got 4 Vectra wheels with snowflake tyres that I could be persuaded to lend as the UK should be OK by March I'd hope!

If you are due a tyre change around the trip time then get them swapped early for the journey as more tread depth is always better even if they are 'normal' tyres. Have a look at the Kwik Fit website (but buy anywhere) for the new tyre labelling and pick a good rated tyre.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on November 05, 2012, 09:45:16 pm
If your car is not VW/Audi/BMW big wheel/small clearances, you are just as well off picking up a cheap set in France. See which are recommended here http://www.snowchains.co.uk/snowchains/ and post result if you would like comment.

Curiously, you might expect a big 4x4 would be no problem for chains.
But no!

The LR discovery 3/4 has serious clearance issues on the front, with the stock wheels / tyres.  There's not enough clearance between the inside of the tyres and a suspension strut.   I've had to install 30mm (IIRC) spacers to shift the wheels out a bit to give the clearance required for proper chains.

Well worth it, tho.
Can go anywhere ( ish ) in deep snow.
Altho LR don't advise chains on all 4 wheels, off-road clubs and websites do.

You know you're in deep do-do and going to have to get out the SHUVVEL when you have a steady, slow 4-wheel spin and are sinking into the snow...
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 05, 2012, 10:03:11 pm
Look. The A40 is not called the Autoroute Blanche for no reason. There is no guarantee that you won't need chains on it. Unlikely if you travel in popular times but I've had chains on for those routes before now, it can happen, honest. Shove some chains in the car at some stage and hope you never have to use them.

Don't automatically believe what the sellers tell you, either. Choose, come back here and check before splashing out.

(and yes, I did fondly image big 4x4 didn't have the same sort of problems)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on November 05, 2012, 10:15:55 pm
And another thing:

Once you have bought chains, practice putting them on in non-winter conditions.
It takes a bit of practice, and usually requires you to drive the vehicle forward a half-turn of the wheels to let you tension it up properly.
It's bloody nasty cold hard work when it comes to it in difficult conditions.
The chains will look like a cat's-cradle of tangled nonsense the first time you use them.

Be sure that the first time is not in anger, where you are also learning.
Be sure you've done the learning ahead of time, so it's just a case of getting on with it.

Seriously.
Half an hour at home in +3 November is worth over an hour in the Alps in -16 in a blizzard in an Aire de Chainage.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on November 05, 2012, 10:46:51 pm
And another thing:

Once you have bought chains, practice putting them on in non-winter conditions.
It takes a bit of practice, and usually requires you to drive the vehicle forward a half-turn of the wheels to let you tension it up properly.
It's bloody nasty cold hard work when it comes to it in difficult conditions.
The chains will look like a cat's-cradle of tangled nonsense the first time you use them.

Be sure that the first time is not in anger, where you are also learning.
Be sure you've done the learning ahead of time, so it's just a case of getting on with it.

Seriously.
Half an hour at home in +3 November is worth over an hour in the Alps in -16 in a blizzard in an Aire de Chainage.

Very good advice, I've fitted chains once in my life when I was working in the Alps and had to fit them for a guest on the basis of "he works he he must know what to do". I think I have the scars to prove it. Sadly not the memory of how to!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on November 05, 2012, 11:08:00 pm
Retensioning is needed but half a turn backwards also works, and is usually easier if you've come to a stop uphill, but a proper retension after 100m is still a must! Take marigold gloves to fit the chains with, these allow a bit of protection and shield you from the wet which is the real problem for wicking heat and dexterity. Practice in UK first in the dark - several times!

Fairly easy to fit and is something like this...

Pass chains behind wheel in whichever direction that drags most side chain behind (as a rule - ish) or allows the side chain clamp to lie against the floor (so it is available to accept chain once flipped up against tyre). Lift up the rear wire back loop ends to 12 o'clock and socket the ends together, gather up side chains on the front from the six o'clock position up to around to say 10 and 2 o'clock and join with cross link bit (usually green or red) then reach back behind and drop the wire loop to be equidistant from rim (makes tensioning easier and can prove the chains actually fit!). Then gather side tensioner chains from 6 o'clock and pull as tight as possible, zig-zagging as needed. Drive a few metres and retension and then again in say 50-100m and retension again.

Always check a hire car actually has chains, I had guests who had a nice dog retaining net supplied 'by mistake' once, several sets have been either too small or too big - always read the label as the advert goes...

See image:- http://tinyurl.com/aqx5tcr for standard supermarket chain image, better chains have 'self tensioning' but still need a bit of gentle use before relying on them (I prefer ordinary chains).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: mark on November 06, 2012, 12:13:54 am
And another thing:

Once you have bought chains, practice putting them on in non-winter conditions.
It takes a bit of practice, and usually requires you to drive the vehicle forward a half-turn of the wheels to let you tension it up properly.
It's bloody nasty cold hard work when it comes to it in difficult conditions.
The chains will look like a cat's-cradle of tangled nonsense the first time you use them.

Be sure that the first time is not in anger, where you are also learning.
Be sure you've done the learning ahead of time, so it's just a case of getting on with it.

Seriously.
Half an hour at home in +3 November is worth over an hour in the Alps in -16 in a blizzard in an Aire de Chainage.

+1.

While we're on the subject, try your best to put them on before they really become necessary, instead of trying to chain up a vehicle that is up to its axles in snow. DNAHIKT.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 06, 2012, 08:03:23 am
Here's a summary of the available chains on the marked from my POV:

First, 9mm chains will fit a lot of cars, even those that say you can't. Experiment with a piece  of 15mm dowel (chains get thrown out a bit), being particularly careful around struts, wheelarch clearances considering full load. On your own head be it though.

0 - Snow socks. Useful for emergency will cope with most ploughed trafficed roads but cannot cope with anything difficult.
1 - Basic chains. Cheap, functional, get the job done. Can be frustratingly difficult to put on especially in adverse conditions and become harder to use on repeat use. Benefit from dousing in WD40 after use. You can pay more than cheap for them too, often branded by manufacturers, best bought on the continent. Compact.
2 - Mid range self tensioning chains. Worth the extra, cost around £150, easier to fit but a true halfway house - some of the advantages of basic, some of the advantages of autofit, disadvantages of both, too, but reasonably compact.
3 - Autofit. Top end stuff, £250-£300. v easy and quick to fit, the spider type (Weissenfells / Thule are the best) will fit any car, but compromise on the grip. There's a new Thule one that I haven't tried that looks the dogs danglies, but uses 9mm chain. One big downside (apart from the cost) is the size - they are bulky.
-1 - The Mita alternative - just don't. My experience: http://extraspecialtreat.blogspot.co.uk/2012/02/mita-tyre-chains-review-fail.html

If you have a big wheeled car, especially RWD, consider the more sophisticated chains, fitting ordinary ones can be exponentially difficult.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on November 06, 2012, 09:30:44 am
Pass chains behind wheel in whichever direction that drags most side chain behind (as a rule - ish) or allows the side chain clamp to lie against the floor (so it is available to accept chain once flipped up against tyre). Lift up the rear wire back loop ends to 12 o'clock and socket the ends together, gather up side chains on the front from the six o'clock position up to around to say 10 and 2 o'clock and join with cross link bit (usually green or red) then reach back behind and drop the wire loop to be equidistant from rim (makes tensioning easier and can prove the chains actually fit!). Then gather side tensioner chains from 6 o'clock and pull as tight as possible, zig-zagging as needed. Drive a few metres and retension and then again in say 50-100m and retension again.

I worked in transport in the Alps one season and fitted chains god knows how many times. One thing I did discover is that no two sets of chains have exactly the same fitting instructions.

Wot everyone else said - practise in the light, when it's warm and dry.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on November 06, 2012, 10:51:17 pm

I worked in transport in the Alps one season and fitted chains god knows how many times. One thing I did discover is that no two sets of chains have exactly the same fitting instructions.

Wot everyone else said - practise in the light, when it's warm and dry.

I quite agree that no two sets of chains ever have the same fiiting instructions, but they all fitted damn near the same no matter how it was phrased, I've also done a bit in the Alps.

One thing to watch for is that the chains are 'Y' chains and not ladder, the latter literally look like a ladder on the tyre - with big gaps between rungs that you may just lock the brakes into - could make for a bad day  :o   (not seen them in years though).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 14, 2012, 12:59:51 pm
Any goggle advice? I could do with replacing my 15 year old Scotts, bought in a resort shop heavily reduced because they make anyone look like a wasp.  (OK, maybe not Obama) But, they were £100 ones which have lasted well and made me appreciate (1) the non-fogging (2) the lens - yellow, for max definition in whiteout/flat light. I'd like to find some similar quality ones reduced before I go at Christmas (maybe like these http://www.ellis-brigham.com/products/off-grid-yellow--teal-chrome/6472), although again the resort shops where I can examine them maybe best.

Any thoughts?

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on November 14, 2012, 01:28:53 pm
The important thing to remember when you need chains you need chains.

Around ten years ago my brother was driving up to Alpe d'Huez.  Around half way up the snow increased and my brother decided to stop and fit the chains.  While he did it we had a wonderful view of cars crashing into each other, walls and barriers on the zig zag above.

Don't be the entertainment fit chains.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on November 14, 2012, 02:06:37 pm
A bit heavy and painfull on your head, tho.
And not very see-through.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 14, 2012, 02:39:07 pm
Heavy? Nahhhhh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBWp6Us3oEc

(go on, you know you want to press play)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on November 15, 2012, 10:10:09 am
I lurve my Oakleys (A frame with a yellow iridium lens, not dissimilar to these (http://uk.oakley.com/products/1331/26620)) and would happily recommend them and when mine die I will replace with similar. But, I think the key with goggles is to get a good fit so whilst these work well for me, they may not for you. The lens and anti fogging on the Oakleys is superb.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 15, 2012, 10:23:50 am
Thanks for that, I wondered which Oakley lens to go for if I was.

Hmmm I feel an Ellis Brigham trip coming upon me, always a danger.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on November 15, 2012, 12:35:46 pm
I like to buy goggles in resort.  I wait for a snowy day.  Try a likely pair and step outside the shop with owners permission and see how it handles the conditions. Unfortunately that is difficult to do in UK conditions.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on November 15, 2012, 12:47:52 pm
I've given up with expensive goggles for the same reason I gave up expensive sunglasses.

Basically, I end up scratching / damaging / loosing them.

So I tend to buy fairly cheapies, usually in-resort.

One thing to bear in mind when trying on for fit:
If you wear a lid, then try them on with the lid to make sure they still fit properly with the lid in place.   Many don't, and in particular they don't sit properly at the sides, because the elastic is pulling out to the side more than it is pulling to the back.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 15, 2012, 02:11:30 pm
Strangely, much as though I wear a lid cycling, I don't skiing. Doesn't make that much sense when you look at it closely but there it is. I'm almost inclined to see the results of a poll would be in Lift the Lid......
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 16, 2012, 01:50:15 pm
Friday afternoon vid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhvdLYSNVTY


How it's done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2soYD8LX7YI
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on November 16, 2012, 02:36:06 pm
Is that Wiggo?  ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on November 16, 2012, 11:46:24 pm
Strangely, much as though I wear a lid cycling, I don't skiing. Doesn't make that much sense when you look at it closely but there it is. I'm almost inclined to see the results of a poll would be in Lift the Lid......

Oh come on the ski lid keeps ears warm.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: jogler on November 17, 2012, 06:57:58 am
Heavy? Nahhhhh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBWp6Us3oEc

(go on, you know you want to press play)

I did & I did
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 28, 2012, 02:13:25 pm
Aguille du midi....

http://500px.com/photo/17045517
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 02, 2012, 04:37:34 pm
Ah, that brings back memories!
Here's Mrs F and myself at the Mer de Glace having come down the Vallee Blanche:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8202/8237460283_561e7e684c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8237460283/)
Photo-2-small (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8237460283/) by Ron Lowe (http://www.flickr.com/people/62966413@N04/), on Flickr

This was the first day the cable-car had been open for 3 days; it had been dumping down for 3 days solid.
Coming out of the tunnel at the top, and walking down the first hundred metres or so ( the section visible on your photo, I think ), you'd not want to fall off to your left.   It's about a thousand metres till the first bounce!
The cable car is a quite an experience.   The second section is a *single span* of over 2000m with no pylons in the middle!  The cables are close to vertical as they enter the top station.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on December 02, 2012, 04:59:40 pm
I'm currently in Plagne 1800 doing a bit of odds and sods, and I can report that they have about 100mm of snow a couple of days ago, it is snowing a bit at the moment with 'lots' more due supposedly...
La Rosiere is slightly better off for snow and it is falling fairly heavy too!

Very cold all day and cannons running.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on December 11, 2012, 03:29:05 am
First trip of the season to Whistler yesterday. Missed the pow by one day, but the snow was still pretty good and there was no lift-lines at all. Straight to the lift all day. Never seen it that quiet before. Fairly cold in Vancouver as well, so hope to it the local mountain a couple of times this week.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 11, 2012, 07:27:57 am
I'm currently in Plagne 1800 doing a bit of odds and sods, and I can report that they have about 100mm of snow a couple of days ago, it is snowing a bit at the moment with 'lots' more due supposedly...
La Rosiere is slightly better off for snow and it is falling fairly heavy too!

Very cold all day and cannons running.

If you wouldn't mind looking in on Meribel on your way round? Thanks  ;D

A reminder - I will have a cheap 3 Valleys 6 Day Pass available for sale in Meribel on 22 Dec
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on December 17, 2012, 05:46:34 am
Bit of a rare day yesterday at Cypress, one of the local mountains. It caters mostly for park animals and beginner/intermediate locals and one of the old lifts, which covers a series of black/double black runs is mostly unused.
It is pretty crap most of the season, as it's very low and the snow is never that great, but yesterday, there was a good 40cm of snow, dry enough for faceshots at the top half and virtually no one on the slopes.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/530364_4861963344200_1063409249_n.jpg)

Probably the best day I've ever had at Cypress.
Low temps and lots of snow forecast for this week and we're off to Sun Peaks on Saturday for 5 days on the hills (ski in/out).
Good start to the season!!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on December 18, 2012, 09:58:08 pm
Temperatures near freezing at sealevel + more snow on the mountains, meant even drier powder when we went back up to Cypress after work. Easily the best snow conditions I've seen there in the 4 years I've lived here. Main runs were tracked out, but a high overcast bounced back more than enough light to ride through the trees, where there was loads of stashes of waist high powder. Funny how quality snow makes even black double diamond tree runs 'easy' to ride!. (And at night too!).
I did however manage to break one of the toe-straps and will need to head to the shop after work to get it sorted out, as more quality snow is forecast for rest of the week.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 18, 2012, 10:43:17 pm
Looks like there's plenty of snow in Meribel, so I won't even be jealous. much.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 27, 2012, 09:57:47 pm
Right.
So a whole day in the seekrit bunker, but all skis had the necessary ptex repairs, edged, and waxed.
Off to Courcheval 1850 for the New Year on Sat.

Bye!
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Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on December 28, 2012, 04:39:53 am
Just got back from 5 days at Sun Peaks and we had some of the best conditions ever.
Drove up in a blizzard which was both scary and promising.
First day, there was still low clouds hanging about, but we found a stack of nice deserted black runs (with the odd tree in the way) and basically had a powder day, albeit, slightly heavy powder. Full on power day.
Next morning, clouds looked even lower, so we started heading up to the other side of the mountain, which is all blue(red) runs, but as we waited for people faffing about with lift passes, etc, my friend Joe and I looked up the other mountain and saw that the clouds were lifting and we took off. (The rest wanted to 'warm up' first).
We had fresh tracks every where we went for the first 2 hours and even had a local guy show us a few secret tree runs. Amazing dry powder that made double black diamonds a breeze to sail down on. As it finally got tracked out after lunch, we started heading into the trees (which there are a lot of).
Christmas day was a rest day and then yesterday was our 'last' day and most of us were still tired/bloated/hungover and was only going to a 'few runs', until we realized that there was still plenty of powder stashes to the side of the blue groomers, many leading in really nice tree runs. (I also managed to run into a few of them, but it was worth it).

Really been spoiled already this season and I only got 6 days in it!. (5 powder days!!)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/734369_4928231240856_1674443430_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 30, 2012, 10:13:43 am
Well, back now. And as I didn't post this when I arrived home at 01:00 last night, the story is here instead of the rant thread - it's a close run thing.

First, the ski. Brilliant - snow was great throughout one day of heavy snow, still out in it as the snow was so tempting. Skied the 3 valleys side to side, although again, one day the wind closed the connections, and on another we confined ourselves close-ish to home as there was a danger of connections being closed. Skifrance chalet (via igluski) was brill, 5*. The spare pass? Oh, Skifrance screwed that up completely, not sure what money we will get back but just as well nobody else was depending on it ;)

Some of the runs were a bit shit, Pic Blanc (a narrow, steep "blue" = red, but the only way that they can call the run from the top blue) was a particular bete noir - because the alternative black or blue path was closed - chopped up moguls and south facing, beaucoup de monde including lots finding it very challenging. All the naffness was as a result of chopped up moguls tbh, plus I was a self appointed lantern rouge/tail sweeper on more difficult slopes, with so much snow it was a bit wearying trying to go so-o-o-o-o-o-o slow.

But the fecking feckers at Monarch really screwed us up big time. On the way out, we had a 23 hour delay ( oh look - just short of 24) with the fecking fecking feckers lying to us all the day, on the way back another mechanical meant that we had to wait 8 hours for the good plane to fly to London and back to pick us up. NEVER choose monarch if you can possibly avoid. Pictures to follow.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 30, 2012, 02:42:36 pm
Ah yes. The evidence. Yours truly, having just taken a photo of everyone, passed the camera to a stranger and asked him to take one of us all and inadvertently adopted The Posture. I couldn't get up for laughing.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Cgr-4d9T3RA/UOBPif2ofBI/AAAAAAAAlwA/mWJdWKC4TCA/s640/P1050984.JPG)

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 02, 2013, 07:12:47 pm
A number plate I really want .... http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=17094.msg1388372#msg1388372
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: closetleftie on January 06, 2013, 11:38:26 am
OK here goes: NEWBY ALERT


I need some very basic advice. We've decided to go skiing at Easter & Ham suggested I post on this thread

Situation: Family. Mrs L has been skiing years ago and she's a confident athletic sort of type. I've never been, and am fit but less confident and likely to be a slowish learner.

Kids: 6 year old boy, temperamentally like his mother. Likely to be confident and quick on the uptake. 8 year old girl, could go either way. 10 year old boy, may struggle with balance, likely to be timid.

The non-negotiables: Easter school holidays,need instruction, need to speak English (everyone has a few words of French but not fluent, I speak passable German) flexible on location etc.

Questions:

1. We have time. Shall we drive for the sake of it?

2. Are packages worthwhile? I've found one which seems on the face of it to be reasonable value. Flights, catered chalet, La Rosiere, instruction etc included, £3.4k. Can I save much by sorting it out myself?

3. Book ski instruction here or once there?

4. Group lessons or try to find a private instruction for the family?

Any other advice appreciated!

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 06, 2013, 12:02:16 pm
I'd book lessons in advance if I were you as you're going at peak time. Also if you live near a dry ski slope I'd consider having some lessons before you go. Coincidently I'm on the way back from my sons lesson at the moment.

I'd also look at private lessons. I think that you'll make faster progress albeit at a higher cost but I think it's worthwhile. I've watched the progress that the group lessons made compared to my son's one on one lessons. He progressed much faster than the groups.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: valkyrie on January 06, 2013, 12:17:01 pm
I'm just back from two weeks in the Zillertal in Austria and I'd recommend Austria for value for money. I'd normally recommend leaving the booking until last minute so as to make sure you've got great snow but as you're fixed to Easter then you'll just need to book in advance and hope for the best. Somewhere high like Obertauern would be pretty snow-sure and offers a decent range of skiing for beginners. Ski-Schools there all speak excellent English and the group classes can be fun. Most of the accommodation there is very close to the pistes so easy to get yourself and kids out and going in the morning. Don't have any children myself but I do feel sorry for parents struggling along in big gondola queues carrying small children and assorted skis/poles.

Some of the very cheap deals you see in Austria are for resorts like Niederau, which are very low and very small. I have had a great holiday there but these small ones can get lots of lift queues if the snow is good or be closed completely by just a day or two of heavy rain.

Austria has more hotel based holidays and less in the way of self-catering compared to France. For us (a couple) it's usually cheaper to take half-board in a 4 start Austrian hotel than it'd be to take a grotty little studio apartment in a big French resort. On piste food prices are much cheaper too.

Check out the SnowHeads forum for recommendations on ski-schools etc = http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/ (http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: mark on January 06, 2013, 12:44:16 pm
OK here goes: NEWBY ALERT


I need some very basic advice. We've decided to go skiing at Easter & Ham suggested I post on this thread

Situation: Family. Mrs L has been skiing years ago and she's a confident athletic sort of type. I've never been, and am fit but less confident and likely to be a slowish learner.

Kids: 6 year old boy, temperamentally like his mother. Likely to be confident and quick on the uptake. 8 year old girl, could go either way. 10 year old boy, may struggle with balance, likely to be timid.

The non-negotiables: Easter school holidays,need instruction, need to speak English (everyone has a few words of French but not fluent, I speak passable German) flexible on location etc.

Questions:

1. We have time. Shall we drive for the sake of it?

2. Are packages worthwhile? I've found one which seems on the face of it to be reasonable value. Flights, catered chalet, La Rosiere, instruction etc included, £3.4k. Can I save much by sorting it out myself?

3. Book ski instruction here or once there?

4. Group lessons or try to find a private instruction for the family?

Any other advice appreciated!



The problem with private lessons for the family is that you've described four extremely different students, and you're likely to find yourself learning at the pace of the slowest learner in the group. 6 year olds generally do not have the same motor skills and cognitive abilities as 8 or 10 year olds, no matter how confident they are. Putting siblings in the same ski class, whether a private lesson or a group lesson, also creates the potential for sibling rivalry and other behavior issues.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 06, 2013, 01:58:13 pm
With a family of 5 you can make meaningful savings travelling and arranging things yourself. Here's an outline budget:

Shuttle - £120 if you book early, ferry is always an option.
Fuel (say 1,500 miles), tolls - £380 (ie £500 all up, check on via  michelin for your car)

Apartment - £600 (ski apartments are...cosy, but the kids should be ok. bunk beds etc)

Food - probably more than you think - say £500

So, £1,600 so far - add £100 for a set of good snow chains.  Do you need a roof box? (add to fuel costs, too!) Do you need continental breakdown cover?

So, meaningful saving to the package deal. Now you have to add on the rest.

Skis (rent booked in the UK) - £50 x 5 - £250 for basic skis
Ski passes - basic ski passes for everyone - 900E  £850 for La Plagne.
Lessons - my suggestion would be morning group lessons - ski together in the afternoons which would be around 750E, £700  for ESF, the classic french school. La plagne does have english schools as well which would be a better option, probably.

So, another £2K - not forgetting clothing. Best to borrow if you can, if you can't TK Max has excellent deals on skiwear, do try to get someone who knows about ski along when you make any choices.

That's a budget, sound reasonable?


There is another option - buying a package and self travel. That will work if you can get a deal for passes and you know what you are doing and where you are going (as I just did over xmas) but I'd suggest leaving that to one side for the moment.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: valkyrie on January 06, 2013, 06:43:59 pm
Some of the smaller companies that specialise in just one or two resorts can offer pretty good deals and advice. I've never used MGS but they impressed me when I spoke to them at the Scottish Ski show and I'm seriously considering trying a week with them this year. They operate out of Val Cenis in France and mostly offering self-catering apartments. Prices per person at Easter about £390 and that includes accommodation, ski hire, lift pass & skiing with a guide/instructor every afternoon. You'd need to add on the cost of the drive down, food there and tuition for the kids. Have a look at http://www.mgsski.com/index.htm (http://www.mgsski.com/index.htm)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 06, 2013, 06:49:28 pm
Another request for advice - my son needs to wear glasses for skiing so we went to look for some googles. The shop - admittedly only the one at Bracknell dry ski slope - claimed that googles that fit over glasses don't exist for children. Does anyone know any differently?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 06, 2013, 07:03:32 pm
Another request for advice - my son needs to wear glasses for skiing so we went to look for some googles. The shop - admittedly only the one at Bracknell dry ski slope - claimed that googles that fit over glasses don't exist for children. Does anyone know any differently?

Yes, utter bollocks. We may have some going spare-ish (or they may have been outed a while back).

edit: quick google for "OTG Childrens Goggles" turns up: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330791388385?hlp=false
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 06, 2013, 07:05:43 pm
Some of the smaller companies that specialise in just one or two resorts can offer pretty good deals and advice. I've never used MGS but they impressed me when I spoke to them at the Scottish Ski show and I'm seriously considering trying a week with them this year. They operate out of Val Cenis in France and mostly offering self-catering apartments. Prices per person at Easter about £390 and that includes accommodation, ski hire, lift pass & skiing with a guide/instructor every afternoon. You'd need to add on the cost of the drive down, food there and tuition for the kids. Have a look at http://www.mgsski.com/index.htm (http://www.mgsski.com/index.htm)

That's good stuff! I'm off to Val Cenis in Feb - any experience of it?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 06, 2013, 07:12:16 pm
Another request for advice - my son needs to wear glasses for skiing so we went to look for some googles. The shop - admittedly only the one at Bracknell dry ski slope - claimed that googles that fit over glasses don't exist for children. Does anyone know any differently?



Yes, utter bollocks. We may have some going spare-ish (or they may have been outed a while back).

edit: quick google for "OTG Childrens Goggles" turns up: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330791388385?hlp=false

Thanks - I rather thought it to be bollox. If you have some spare I'm sure we could come to some agreement :)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 07, 2013, 11:26:25 pm
1971 K2 demonstration team

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP3wU677tcg

Don't think much of their mogul technique ;)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: closetleftie on January 08, 2013, 06:29:44 pm
Update: going to La Rosiere at Easter with Peak Retreats.  ;D

Driving...
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 08, 2013, 06:57:33 pm
Peak Retreats are pretty reliable, you should have a good time! enjoy. BTW, the kids goggles are no more, sorry. (Miss Ham is 22 now....)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 08, 2013, 06:57:42 pm
Just back from Les 3 vallées, and as has been previously reported, the snow is in excellent condition.

We were a group of 8, and were based in Courchevel 1850.
We did several long itinery days, and the snow was good enough to ski right down to St. Martin De Belleville for an excellent lunch.
Another day, we went over into the Orelle valley for lunch at La Rosael:
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/257839701

The new Plattieres lift out of Mottaret makes a huge improvement on the mega-queues that used to form there.

A couple of pics..

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8085/8361299721_186b3b789a_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8361299721/)
P1000832 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8361299721/) by Ron Lowe (http://www.flickr.com/people/62966413@N04/), on Flickr

But it's not all fun and games: a Feanor's work is never done:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8335/8361301435_c9b98bf38c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8361301435/)
P1000819 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8361301435/) by Ron Lowe (http://www.flickr.com/people/62966413@N04/), on Flickr

And a first go at a panorama:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8498/8362254078_cc3fbfb3d7_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8362254078/)
Saulire (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8362254078/) by Ron Lowe (http://www.flickr.com/people/62966413@N04/), on Flickr

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 08, 2013, 07:06:14 pm
You had bloody sun. Grrr.

Snow was brill though, wasn't it?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 08, 2013, 08:26:30 pm
BTW, the kids goggles are no more, sorry. (Miss Ham is 22 now....)

Never mind thanks for the thought and the eBay link.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Bledlow on January 08, 2013, 10:34:15 pm
Another request for advice - my son needs to wear glasses for skiing so we went to look for some googles. The shop - admittedly only the one at Bracknell dry ski slope - claimed that googles that fit over glasses don't exist for children. Does anyone know any differently?
Certainly bollocks, as already said. I think I've seen such goggles being sold in Carters in Reading.

A quick search of 'OTG kids ski goggles' turns up a choice of models & suppliers. Decathlon sells some, so might be worth checking the Reading branch if you're local. Aha! Website says they're in stock.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 10, 2013, 06:28:34 pm
Is this the scariest job in the world? Testing an avalanche air bag....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMa28gFkils#!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 10, 2013, 06:54:08 pm
Smallest Junior finds a shed with a roof which provides an opportunity to be James Bond in a chase scene...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLPSpPXPYO4

R
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 10, 2013, 10:00:57 pm
Love it!

(down at 1650?)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 10, 2013, 10:15:03 pm
Yes, well spotted.
That's pretty much down at the base station at 1650.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/258247523

For lunch at 1650, don't bother with the stuff at the side of the piste.
You need to kick off your skis, and walk down into the village ( at the most, a couple of hundred metres ).
There's a row of very good restaurants with wood-fired pizzas etc.

R.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 10, 2013, 10:23:51 pm

For lunch at 1650, don't bother with the stuff at the side of the piste.
You need to kick off your skis, and walk down into the village ( at the most, a couple of hundred metres ).
There's a row of very good restaurants with wood-fired pizzas etc.


Yep, that's exactly what we did.

The sad thing is, I think I can pretty much name all the runs on the GPS trace (mur down from the altiport? yeah! hmmm maybe not?)  AND I can see where you stopped off in the Tepee on the Indian run.

I hope your lot did this

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zUQNz4UfNt0/UOBOblXtp7I/AAAAAAAAloc/CRjEhMw4Wj8/s640/P1060035.JPG)

edit

And with warpaint

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ShUUzlnkVPI/UOBO-y4IRWI/AAAAAAAAlqE/M7VVkEIEvY4/s640/P1060046.JPG)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 10, 2013, 10:45:48 pm
Great photos!

Well spotted, we did indeed go down the Indians run.
But the kids were of such an age that they would not go into the teepee, as it would not be 'cool'.

This pic is taken on the piste, directly opposite the tepees:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8509/8367928915_258177269e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8367928915/)
Indians (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8367928915/) by Ron Lowe (http://www.flickr.com/people/62966413@N04/), on Flickr

That entire day was done with my Sister-in Law, who is not much of a skier, having had some bad experiences in the past.   The 'expedition' to 1650 was a slow day's work for us, but an achievement for her, and that made it worth the time.

Times have changed.

There is no run now that I can do that Junior#1 cannot beat me on.
He's *way* faster than me on a Slalom course, and mostly faster on a GS.
He's better than me on-piste, off-piste on thin stuff or deep powder, moguls, and batshit-crazy steeps.
Seriously: on steeps that have me seriously worried, he's not side-slipping down: he's doing propper tight turns.
He now skis this stuff like it's just regular stuff.
No hesitations or anything.
Part of it is the Indestructability of Youth, where you feen invincable.
Part of it is just that they have been skiing since age 4, and are just better than me now.

R.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 10, 2013, 11:25:32 pm
Ah yes, what a familiar feel. Miss Ham (she in the yellow williwarmer) has been skiing since age 3 - she's 22 in that shot - 1st time in 1650 when she was 5. Through the ESF training, I think she overtook me sometime in the Equipe level, many years back.  I now console myself with the responsibility of being the back marker most of the time  - it's a dirty job but someone has to do it. I'm actually thinking of changing my skis because they don't like going slow. (Streetracer 10s, v heavy and great carvers through any crud or ice, great for moguls at a speed, but hard to initiate turns at slow speed)



Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 15, 2013, 02:48:24 pm
Avalanche transcievers on piste?

It's been a while since I skied regularly and then I only used one off piste, but has the thinking changed?

The reason I ask is we're going skiing at the end of March with friends and my (non skiing) wife has just had an e-mail from the friends suggesting that we get hold of some for me and my son - who, to date, has had 6 dry slope sessions! So is our friend being over cautious? Or is current best practice to always wear one?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 15, 2013, 03:11:37 pm
Perhaps your friend has some plans for you  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 15, 2013, 03:28:30 pm
Perhaps your friend has some plans for you  :thumbsup:

Well she mentioned the Vallée Blanche...

I can understand me needing one but seems overkill for my son!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 15, 2013, 03:30:06 pm
No.
I've never, ever come across these in use on-piste.

If you are a group going into deep back-country, then you might want to consider them.
But a few things to consider are:

You, and everyone in your group, need to learn the correct method of using them.
It's a mountain skill that rerquires training and practice.
( They don't point directly to the victim, for example: they take you in a loop, following the flux-lines from the transmitter. )
You all need to practice using them; ( many resorts have practice areas, with buried transponders for you to practice with );
You need to have probes and shuvvels, know how to use them too, and enough people to use them effectively.
The first few minutes are critical.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 15, 2013, 03:31:30 pm
Not unless you're going off piste. I normally have a Recco tab somewhere on me, but that's only because it comes in the clothing.  If you're going to go for the Vallee Blanche it might be an idea, but no way will your son get there.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 15, 2013, 03:33:40 pm
[Well she mentioned the Vallée Blanche...

That's another matter.

You'll probably want to do this as a guided route.
There are many crevasses on the glacier, and the guides know the safe way through them.

When we did this, we were issued with transcievers by our guide.
We were also roped together for the initial walk out of the top station down the shoulder to where you put your skis on.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 15, 2013, 03:33:58 pm
Thanks - confirmed what I thought!

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 15, 2013, 03:35:47 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zyGdJ2_eCM
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 15, 2013, 03:36:01 pm
[Well she mentioned the Vallée Blanche...

That's another matter.

You'll probably want to do this as a guided route.
There are many crevasses on the glacier, and the guides know the safe way through them.

When we did this, we were issued with transcievers by our guide.
We were also roped together for the initial walk out of the top station down the shoulder to where you put your skis on.

Am expecting to do it with a guide, but the friend and her sister both have apartments in Chamonix and spend most of the season out there so may feel confident about the route
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 16, 2013, 12:21:38 am
Avalanche transcievers on piste?

It's been a while since I skied regularly and then I only used one off piste, but has the thinking changed?

The reason I ask is we're going skiing at the end of March with friends and my (non skiing) wife has just had an e-mail from the friends suggesting that we get hold of some for me and my son - who, to date, has had 6 dry slope sessions! So is our friend being over cautious? Or is current best practice to always wear one?

Over cautious. Where you will be skiing with mini-F there will be other things to worry about more than getting hit by an avalanche.

Having said that, as long as it's not half-term you can borrow mine.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 16, 2013, 06:56:06 am
Avalanche transcievers on piste?

It's been a while since I skied regularly and then I only used one off piste, but has the thinking changed?

The reason I ask is we're going skiing at the end of March with friends and my (non skiing) wife has just had an e-mail from the friends suggesting that we get hold of some for me and my son - who, to date, has had 6 dry slope sessions! So is our friend being over cautious? Or is current best practice to always wear one?

Over cautious. Where you will be skiing with mini-F there will be other things to worry about more than getting hit by an avalanche.

Having said that, as long as it's not half-term you can borrow mine.

Thanks as it'll be over Easter I'll take you up on that :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on January 16, 2013, 08:05:03 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zyGdJ2_eCM

There's a lot of Sahara dust on that film, horrible stuff which slows you down no end. We've done both Valle Blanche routes. The last time we went on the higher route, and one of our party did his cruciate ligament in on a simple fall on a compression, and was helicoptered off. He was an athletics coach who's now a director of sport for a small nation, and he was talking one of his athletes through a similar problem while he had his leg up in the back of the minibus. He was a 400 metre hurdler, and was the least flexible person I've ever seen try to do kick turns while touring, it was excruciating to watch.
Title: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: icenutter on January 16, 2013, 08:14:36 am
Avalanche transceivers on-piste is definitely over-cautious. It's certainly not common practice.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on January 16, 2013, 10:57:21 am
Will having people cruising around the mountain with tranceviers active not cause signal problems with any adjacent rescue areas? A party with active transceviers passing over any search on the typical 'glory run' under a chairlift would surely have an impact, or something like Grand Couloir at 1850 is right on a piste as an example? I know the range is very poor and directional but it seems it could potentially increase other peoples risk?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 18, 2013, 12:52:33 am
Just back from four days in France. Great snow, and still falling when we left. My first non-family ski trip for a number of years. Boy, do I ache.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 18, 2013, 10:17:12 am
Just back from four days in France. Great snow, and still falling when we left. My first non-family ski trip for a number of years. Boy, do I ache.

That because you were doing the falling as well ? ;)

(Where were you?)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 18, 2013, 11:40:59 am
Just back from four days in France. Great snow, and still falling when we left. My first non-family ski trip for a number of years. Boy, do I ache.
That because you were doing the falling as well ? ;)

(Where were you?)

Leg ache a result of it being a non-family skiing event (and skiing with someone 10 years my junior).
Back ache and scuffed nose a result of my falling. I took a couple of heavyish falls (poor vis, unknown slopes and fresh powder fuelled enthusiasm are not great bed fellows). Knees are OK (I bust one many years ago), but back and nose are suffering (head first when returning on to softish piste at about 30mph ).

Flaine. Ugly as sin but great skiing.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 18, 2013, 08:59:42 pm
Not unless you're going off piste. I normally have a Recco tab somewhere on me, but that's only because it comes in the clothing.  If you're going to go for the Vallee Blanche it might be an idea, but no way will your son get there.

According to a snowpatroller/avid backcountry skier friend, they get a stronger signal of people's mobile phones than they do from the Recco tabs.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 18, 2013, 09:16:23 pm
Not unless you're going off piste. I normally have a Recco tab somewhere on me, but that's only because it comes in the clothing.  If you're going to go for the Vallee Blanche it might be an idea, but no way will your son get there.

According to a snowpatroller/avid backcountry skier friend, they get a stronger signal of people's mobile phones than they do from the Recco tabs.

Bloody glad I havent paid for them, then. (except as o ne does for ski gear anyhow
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: mark on January 19, 2013, 12:40:52 am
When Recco tabs first started showing up in ski clothing in the US, they would set off the anti-shoplifting alarms in the ski shop where I worked when people walked out with their purchases. Apparently the Recco tabs are the same kind of RF reflector diodes as the anti-theft tags.
According to a snowpatroller/avid backcountry skier friend, they get a stronger signal of people's mobile phones than they do from the Recco tabs.

The Recco signal has to go from a transceiver held by a rescue worker through whatever amount of densely packed snow/ice the victim is buried under, bounce off a reflector that may or may not be oriented optimally to reflect the signal, and return to the transceiver. I'm not a bit surprised that a mobile phone sends out a stronger signal.


Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on January 19, 2013, 02:10:26 am
Recco tags given they are just a tiny unpowered reflector are at best body location devices, you want a proper active transmitter to have any chance of being found by someone with a receiver (and who knows how to use it).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 24, 2013, 08:51:13 am
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/602695_10152303759323538_832495747_n.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 24, 2013, 09:44:36 am
Love it! shame the signs aren't any larger, they obviously ran out of room. Somewhere is should have also included "Just over the ridge, a bunch of snowboaders sitting spread out over the entire width of the slope"

Where ?
Title: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: docsquid on January 24, 2013, 11:39:38 am
That's good. Tells it like it is. Trouble with "bunch of snowboarders sitting down across entire width of piste" is that it could apply to any piste of any difficulty in any resort.

And in case anybody missed it, we went skiing last weekend. In our own woods!  I can't go skiing properly any more due to knees being held together by bits of metal and screws, but pottering down our woods and meadows was good fun.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8324/8395768628_bf1afc3f6e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/alvecotewood/8395768628/)

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Bledlow on January 24, 2013, 11:54:21 am
Yes, well spotted.
That's pretty much down at the base station at 1650.
http://connect.garmin.com/activity/258247523
Ah, nostalgia! I haven't been to Courchevel since 2001, & looking at that trace brings back memories.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 27, 2013, 01:44:24 pm
Back yesterday from a week based in Val d'Isere. Weather mostly pretty good. One snowy day, one with flattish light, but mostly sunny. Pretty cold at the end of the week. Skied just about everywhere in Espace Killy.

Pix (http://flic.kr/s/aHsjDLmybG)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8098/8418016882_64659bab94_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/8418016882/)
IMG_1190 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/8418016882/) by The Pingus (http://www.flickr.com/people/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 27, 2013, 05:36:55 pm
Mrs P made some GPS trax with her phone:

20th Jan (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/20-01-13-bh-02-ski)
21st (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/21-01-13-bh-02-ski)
22nd (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/22-01-13-bh-02-ski)
23rd (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/23-01-13-bh-02-ski)
24th (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/24-01-13-bh-02-ski)
25th (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/25-01-13-bh-02-ski)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 27, 2013, 06:06:45 pm
Mrs P made some GPS trax with her phone:

20th Jan (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/20-01-13-bh-02-ski)
21st (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/21-01-13-bh-02-ski)
22nd (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/22-01-13-bh-02-ski)
23rd (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/23-01-13-bh-02-ski)
24th (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/24-01-13-bh-02-ski)
25th (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/25-01-13-bh-02-ski)

Looks like you got about OK!
A couple of fairly big days in there.
Did I spot an agreeable lunch stop down at Tignes Les Brevieres one day ( 23rd )?
The artwork on the dam is now pretty much gone.

Did you get the bus back from up towards Le Fornet on the 24th?
We've done similar.

Next time you're there, there's an excellent 'well-known but secret' off-piste route down to La Daille, from the bottom of the Tommeuses chair.   It's called the Vallee Perdue, and it runs more-or-less alongside the triffolet run.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 27, 2013, 06:42:57 pm
Mrs P made some GPS trax with her phone:

20th Jan (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/20-01-13-bh-02-ski)
21st (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/21-01-13-bh-02-ski)
22nd (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/22-01-13-bh-02-ski)
23rd (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/23-01-13-bh-02-ski)
24th (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/24-01-13-bh-02-ski)
25th (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/25-01-13-bh-02-ski)

Looks like you got about OK!
A couple of fairly big days in there.

That's just Mrs P's trax when she remembers to switch the app on the phone on. I usually do a few more runs when she's had enough in the afternoon.

Quote
Did I spot an agreeable lunch stop down at Tignes Les Brevieres one day ( 23rd )?

We had lunch at les Tufs in la Daille. That was the day it snowed & Mrs P took the bus back to Val after lunch & I did a few more runs.

Quote
The artwork on the dam is now pretty much gone.

Did you get the bus back from up towards Le Fornet on the 24th?
We've done similar.

The bus is pretty handy from le Fornet or la Daille.

Quote

Next time you're there, there's an excellent 'well-known but secret' off-piste route down to La Daille, from the bottom of the Tommeuses chair.   It's called the Vallee Perdue, and it runs more-or-less alongside the triffolet run.

I've done that on previous trips when someone else has been leading. I keep forgetting where it starts.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 27, 2013, 09:07:25 pm
Major lift failure in Glenshee today:
( Butcharts pomma )

(http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/76352_10200318464995101_2043988746_n.jpg)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 27, 2013, 09:55:52 pm
Oooooof !  That's embarrassing.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on January 27, 2013, 10:02:49 pm
That's a bit weird. The whole rack of waiting batons must have become detached and dropped on the cable.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 27, 2013, 10:10:52 pm
It's a mid-way pylon.
The lift continued to run for quite a while after the pylon collapsed.
( Which is slightly odd: at each pylon there's a jockey-wheel which rides upon the wire which is hooked to a limit-switch.   This is designed to detect the scenario that if the wire drops off the sheaves, the jockey wheel drops and opens the emergency stop circuit.   In this case, the wire remained sufficiently engaged in the sheaves that the limit switches did not detect a wire-off scenario and the lift had to be manually stopped. )

The wire continued to be pulled through the wreckage OK for some time.
But the individual platters ( correctly spaced at the bottom station ) could not, and so they piled up on the downhill side of the fallen pylon.

In the image shown, they appear slightly downhill of the broken pylon because the pylon has fallen further in the photo than when the initial incident happened.   This has caused some slack in the system, and things have moved.



Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 28, 2013, 05:52:36 am
Spent Friday at the local mountain (Cypress) with my wife. Fresh, but wet snow overnight meant groomers only, but it also meant that I spent the whole day (apart from the last run) with her, rather than chasing trees, which actually was kinda nice.

Went to Mt Baker today. They had a fair amount of snow over the last few days, after a dry spell,, but it was mostly tracked out, often surprising you with a icy layer when you least wanted it. Still found the odd good bit, but no major stashes, even in the trees.
 Really struggled with the (flat) light and need new goggles. Did almost buy some fancy Oakley ones at lunch, but for whatever reason, it didn't like my Canadian credit card and they didn't accept debit.
Highlight was kinda going down the main chute (double diamond), a run I never expected to be able to do. It wasn't pretty, but I got down, mostly on my board.
Local forecast is for more snow, but temperatures are marginal...
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 28, 2013, 10:14:29 am
You won't get up a mountain to a resort without them when it is snowing, otherwise local conditions may dictate they are sensible but most main roads are kept clear. Chamonix resort itself is quite low, and the roads are normally clear, late March SHOULD be alright, but I wouldn't drive around without having a set in the boot.

If your car is not VW/Audi/BMW big wheel/small clearances, you are just as well off picking up a cheap set in France. See which are recommended here http://www.snowchains.co.uk/snowchains/ and post result if you would like comment.

Just started looking at these - do I just need a pair or should I have them front and back?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 28, 2013, 10:27:22 am
You won't get up a mountain to a resort without them when it is snowing, otherwise local conditions may dictate they are sensible but most main roads are kept clear. Chamonix resort itself is quite low, and the roads are normally clear, late March SHOULD be alright, but I wouldn't drive around without having a set in the boot.

If your car is not VW/Audi/BMW big wheel/small clearances, you are just as well off picking up a cheap set in France. See which are recommended here http://www.snowchains.co.uk/snowchains/ and post result if you would like comment.

Just started looking at these - do I just need a pair or should I have them front and back?

Just one pair on the driven wheels is all you need. If you have a rear wheel drive car I would recommend the "spider" type if you can afford the close to £300. Otherwise, whatever you get, remember to practice in the light and dry before you go.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 28, 2013, 10:38:23 am
Thanks!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on February 12, 2013, 06:37:03 pm
Six injured after skilift derails (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-21434338) at the Lecht.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 14, 2013, 10:12:44 am
Off tonight to Val Cenis.... can't wait to hit the slopes, whatever they are like (no idea about Val Cenis)

In the meantime.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY7rbMEPanw
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on February 14, 2013, 10:17:31 am
A reminder to take care. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-21456435)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 14, 2013, 11:36:35 am
Very sad, yes.

Skiing with Mrs Ham, we are always on piste... but even so.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on February 23, 2013, 08:40:18 pm
Mostly packed and definitely ready for Val d'Isere tomorrow. Whoop!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 23, 2013, 10:25:28 pm
Just back from Val Cenis, 6 days of sunshine and snow, anyone jealous? I will do a full review of the resort in a while, but its summary will be:great for beginners, especially families.  That might sound a bit downbeat, but there is more. Have a great week, Pippa, sounds like there may well be a dump or two over the next day or so, hoping for sun for you after.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 23, 2013, 10:28:40 pm
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-q-vL4To0NTg/USlCGT0xJSI/AAAAAAAAmRQ/gQdmJjs7sxc/s640/P1060134.JPG)

Could start a new meme - greatest extremity uses of a yacf buff in one day - only it would be a bit exclusive. Prevention of frostbite in the morning to prevention of sunburn in the afternoon.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 24, 2013, 08:36:23 pm
So, a review of Val Cenis.

I'm always fascinated by those myriad of small resorts that you see, fascinated but never previously tempted because I'm so much addicted to the big French resorts. Val Cenis was a departure from the norm, 'cause because we wanted to ski at half term, and fancied something new.

The resort http://www.piste-maps.co.uk/France/ValCenis.aspx straggles along the valley, with four towns dotted along the way, our choice Lanslevillard is one of the best having a combination of decent restaurants etc, and places such as ours which was as ski in - ski out as it is possible to get - out the door onto the piste.

The down side of the resort is that the sking area is a little limited. Although the number of ski kilometers sounds fairly high, a lot are green snakey paths. But there are still some very nice runs. Nothing really black, although I didn't try the 1m wide traverse path, and very little really red (if red=difficult) although once or twice you did have to ski to stay upright, Quite a few blue wiggle paths have reds that go straight down, well within the skiing capability of most.

Didn't try the extensive off piste, it looked pretty good and you could pretty much choose your challenge.

Of course it helped that we had sunshine and good snow for almost all days, but that's the name of the game. It is an absolutely perfect resort for families beginning, and pretty good if you want a lazy week of ski at a resort that cost around 10 - 20% less than others. Our well appointed apartment on the slopes with around 30m2 cost us both £700 for the week , including 2 lift passes.

Stonking good fun for a few days, is my conclusion, but I won't go back.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on February 28, 2013, 01:25:58 pm
I regret not going to the Pyrenees this year. Over 4m in the resort, over 5m on piste seems an interesting snow depth.  One of the mangers of ski lifts was complaining about the modern chair lifts.  Drag lifts were so much easier to adjust, digging out chair lifts is hard work.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on February 28, 2013, 02:46:51 pm
Back from a week in Flaine. Oodles of snow and it stayed cold after a big dump. Heaven. Sunny for most of the week. Which enabled me to take mini down where the red arrow points.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8096/8516198840_a742a86744_z.jpg)

His first proper off-pistey adventure.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on February 28, 2013, 02:59:39 pm
Saw that he'd done that couloir - I'm impressed!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on February 28, 2013, 03:02:51 pm
Saw that he'd done that couloir - I'm impressed!
:-)
He wasn't exactly happy at the top of it, but after his first turn he really rather enjoyed it. It made the rest of the week's ski lessons a doddle apparently when they were taken down some steepish bumpy runs.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on February 28, 2013, 03:19:48 pm
Well I'm not expecting quite the same level of achievement when my son goes for the first time at Easter. Just wanting to do it again will be enough!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on February 28, 2013, 03:20:21 pm
Great stuff!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on February 28, 2013, 03:32:44 pm
Well I'm not expecting quite the same level of achievement when my son goes for the first time at Easter. Just wanting to do it again will be enough!
Yup. Work hard on that one. If they don't enjoy it, no amount of imploring or entreaties will persuade them otherwise.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on March 04, 2013, 02:21:44 pm
Just back from a week in Val d'Isere where I had the best conditions I think I've ever had skiing - it was snowing on Sunday when we arrived and then we had 2 and a half days of sun, it then snowed all Wednesday night so we had fresh powder on Thursday, with the week ending with clear blue skies. Going Sunday to Sunday and having the Saturday, which is usually transfer day, on the slopes was amazingly quiet - me and my ski buddy were often the only people on some of the runs. Bliss.

Unfortunately the week didn't get off to a great start when the following items of mine appeared on the baggage carousel in Grenoble looking like this:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8514/8528386062_d1cd7588d1_n.jpg) (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8085/8527273045_b51c9de246_n.jpg) (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8104/8528392434_2c0ae8296d_n.jpg) (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8516/8527269349_5ae2fe53f2_n.jpg) (http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8531/8528393292_7decafc4ea_n.jpg)

Val d'Isere being what it is, the cost of replacing said items was painful - I picked up one pair of plain black salopettes with a price tag of EUR549. Ouch! These were hastily put back on the shelf and I carried on searching for something a bit cheaper. Insurance company currently being pursued......
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jurek on March 04, 2013, 02:33:19 pm
I see the severity of the damage necessitated that you fortify yourself with a fruit based drink, just to get over the shock  :P
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on March 04, 2013, 02:35:42 pm
I needed to do that every night....
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on March 04, 2013, 02:39:26 pm
What did they do them? Looks like they went head to head with a Piste Basher!!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on March 04, 2013, 02:48:53 pm
Yeah it was probably that or an angry bear with a chain saw  ;D

It has to be something mechanical - these weren't just dropped or something. The people at Grenoble airport reckoned they didn't really have the machinery that would do that sort of damage, so if that's the case, it was Gatwick. But then, given the bag was ripped wide open meaning I lost a load of gloves and buffs, how on earth 2 boots actually turned up is beyond me as one was hanging precariously out of the bag on the carousel. But my salopettes were wrapped around the boots for some (as it turns out completely useless) light protection so they may have held the boot in place in the bag.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 04, 2013, 03:25:50 pm
oo-er... painful though it looks, does it not represent an opportunity if you are insured? What did the airport have to say?

Out of interest, have you annoyed any bears lately, even though you may not have realised they owned a chain saw?

Skiing sounds great
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on March 04, 2013, 03:36:58 pm
Possibly yes. Travel insurance is useless - they only pay a max of £200 per item or "set" and they don't replace like for like - they just give what the item would be worth today post depreciation and wear and tear. Contents is more hopeful and they were quite helpful on the phone today - thankfully I'm covered away from home so they just need to investigate and take a look at the photos I sent and I then need to supply details of replacement items.

The baggage people at Grenoble agreed that the damage warranted a "completely ruined" on the report they filed for me - that takes around a month to process so I won't know the outcome of that for a while.

Someone somewhere that isn't me surely has to pay for this though.....
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 05, 2013, 01:53:32 pm
A couple of GPS trails from Val Cenis

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/280677979

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/280677985

As can be seen, a gentle ski. As to why one shows a top speed for me of 130kph? I don't believe it for one second. They do show the roads turned into (green) piste; it's rather fun following road signs on skis (http://goo.gl/maps/AG9E8) and also before http://goo.gl/maps/gQZ9q and after https://picasaweb.google.com/112931931188633879938/ValCenis2013?authkey=Gv1sRgCNL_wL3P5tbn0wE#5849152726313164034 ;)

More curiously, I notice that the relief shading reflects the real exposure of the slopes to sun. I find this a bit strange, given the orientation of the map, but if it has some reality then it might be useful planning in advance.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: closetleftie on March 05, 2013, 04:53:10 pm
Well I'm not expecting quite the same level of achievement when my son goes for the first time at Easter. Just wanting to do it again will be enough!
Yup. Work hard on that one. If they don't enjoy it, no amount of imploring or entreaties will persuade them otherwise.

I'm hoping the same thing*! Where are you going, Paul?







*And not just for the kids. My first time too. :-[
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 06, 2013, 08:55:03 am
You don't normally associate skiing with inspiring stories but

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-21654353
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on March 06, 2013, 10:09:50 am
I'm off to Chamonix, looking forward to it because apart from a day that I sneaked into a business trip I haven't skied for 5 years!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on March 06, 2013, 02:26:54 pm
Someone somewhere that isn't me surely has to pay for this though.....

And now they have. M&S Contents Insurance - claim settled in full, no quibbles, in cash, within 24 hours of calling them. Can't ask for more than that really  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 06, 2013, 03:06:58 pm
 :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on March 06, 2013, 07:51:07 pm
Good news Pippa :)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 07, 2013, 10:25:21 pm
Anyone bored with skiing?

http://www.abc57.com/video/New-winter-activity-Couch-skiing-188758081.html
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 11, 2013, 12:05:15 pm
Bargainicious .....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LACROIX-PREMIER-ULTRA-LITE-VERSATILE-FREERIDE-ALL-MOUNTAIN-SKIS-185-CM-/160853700124?pt=UK_SportsLeisure_Skiing_Skis_JN&hash=item2573a0ae1c

The cheapest current Lacroix skis are 1,000 euro (top, 8,000 euro http://www.lacroix-skis.com/site/en/7-ski-hommes)

Very tempted, but at 185 just that bit long. I was tempted by the Storm (new UK brand) that the same vendor has (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150740940821?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649 to be exact, with bindings £180) and by the Lacroix iLand for my daughter @ £99.

Fill yer ski boots.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on March 11, 2013, 12:14:43 pm
Surely if you buy Lacroix skis, you're just asking for someone to ski over them?

I've had my own skis for a few years now but after going for a rental option this year, have decided to sell them. The skis I hired were fab, cost me EUR90 for a week for top end, new this season, so after paying for transport, a service and the like it doesn't work out that much more expensive to rent. Plus I won't have to lug them around any more.

Unfortunately selling my skis does not entitle me to fill the space with a new bike. Bum.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 11, 2013, 12:25:20 pm
The main reason I buy my own skis is that way I know what I have got, I know they are properly set up and by keeping an eye on the bargains - especially at this time of the year - it costs next to nothing. My Salomon Streetracers will probably fetch £150-ish next year which will mean that 3 years skiing/6 weeks will have cost about £60. I'll have to see what the resale value of the Storm will be like, I suspect it will never be as strong. Likewise, my daughters skis  (just sold through snowheads).

Yes, it is a bit of a faff but not too bad, as we often drive.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on March 17, 2013, 09:55:22 am
Bit of a jolly to Geilo, Norway coming up. Hopefully get a couple of hours skiing in on Mon & Tues :)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 19, 2013, 10:32:15 pm
Well, well.

Google streetview takes to skis!!! http://goo.gl/maps/oBNIJ

Special prize to anyone finding a black run on camera.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on March 31, 2013, 04:09:24 pm
First day in Chamonix, up Les Montets.

Perhaps a black with a foot of fresh snow on was a tad ambitious for me but then we went off piste. Once my legs got into it had a great time. Took my son out on snow for the first time and he loved it!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on April 02, 2013, 04:27:38 pm
We had three days of skiing at Yad Moss over the holidays, they're open tomorrow. It's an odd place to ski, I got chatting about my ancient equipment and the bloke I was talking to gave me a pair of Rossignol 190cm carving skis.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on April 02, 2013, 06:03:17 pm
Another great day in Chamonix! Strayed into Switzerland :D, can't believe that we're finding fresh powder this late in the season!

Son did some blues today - with just a little assistance :)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: valkyrie on April 03, 2013, 02:30:09 pm
Glenshee last Saturday was fantastic - clear blue skies, no wind and pistes in tip-top condition. I think all the Scottish centres still have great snow so might go out again this coming Sunday.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Redlight on April 03, 2013, 08:49:16 pm
Just got back from 5 days of great skiing at Verbier. Six inches of snow on arrival, topped up for the following two days. Shame I'm a crap skier, although I did enjoy the off-piste with a friend who just happens to be an instructer there and knows the resort backwards.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on April 05, 2013, 09:14:11 pm
Off to Les Arcs tomorrow in what was a very last minute decision. Who knows what the snow will be like, but if the weather has been anything as cold as here, it should be good.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on April 05, 2013, 09:41:52 pm
Off to Les Arcs tomorrow in what was a very last minute decision. Who knows what the snow will be like, but if the weather has been anything as cold as here, it should be good.

Raining at the moment in Chamonix :( But Les Arcs is higher so you should be OK. Had some great skiing this week,snow in superb condition especially given the time of year. Enjoy!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on April 05, 2013, 11:15:36 pm
Chamonix is 1050m and Les Arcs starts around 1650 so no comparison, Chamonix is a triumph of marketing over substance - just like Merry Hell, sorry Meribel (but at least you slushy down to Meribel). Cham is nice is summer though.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on April 07, 2013, 10:02:03 am
Complete white out conditions today. Booooo! We could stand on the piste and have a normal conversation but couldn't see each other at all. I didn't know which way was up or down at some points.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on April 11, 2013, 06:38:24 pm
My brother has taken a couple of days off work, and has taken his juniors + mine to Gelnshee and Cairngorm the last 2 days.

Reports of alpine conditions, and excellent weather yesterday, and only 'good' today!

I, meanwhile, was stuck in the Salt Mines of Montrose.   Bah.
I'll probably get my share of the snow on Saturday, on the Port Nav 200.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on April 12, 2013, 05:01:17 pm
On filming through an avalanche and wearing ABS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pSBUXFJXiY
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on October 03, 2013, 03:28:12 am
So, the 13/14 season isn't too far away. First snow on local mountains yesterday and Mt. Baker has 13 feet(!!!) of snow forecast this week. That might just be enough to stick as a base layer.
 I've already bought season pass for one of the local mountains, but it looks like our annual Xmas snowboarding/skiing trip wont happen this year due to work schedules...so instead me and one of my slightly more crazy friends (Straightline Joe) are talking about hitting Revelstoke in February, which is supposed to be one of the best powder mountains in North America.
 Other plans include buying a new jacket. After using shell-trousers for the first time last year, I would like to get a shell jacket too, but the $500+ ticket for goretex 3L jackets is painful...
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on October 03, 2013, 08:05:13 am
I'm booked for La Plagne over xmas (Belle Plagne, a group of 18)  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I much prefer shell, too, as someone who gets hot too quickly. Do you have any way of getting stuff delivered into the UK? If so Sportpursuit is the place to look, I recently picked up 2 Berghaus Goretex shells (one for me one for Mrs Ham) for £100-ish each) Last season, but you would be hard pressed to tell the difference. They sometimes have Spyder @ 50% off or more, you just have to keep looking. Best stuff often goes fast, they may only have individual examples of some stuff, and then sometimes only odd sizes.

Sponsored link - if you use this link and join, and subsequently order I get credit (don't cost you nuffing) http://www.sportpursuit.com/join/hamilton_095cea

Disclaimer: do not hold me responsible for buying too much cycling, snow or other sport gear that you didn't really need.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on October 03, 2013, 08:53:37 pm
I like Sportpursuit too :)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on October 04, 2013, 08:51:58 pm
I'm booked for La Plagne over xmas (Belle Plagne, a group of 18)  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I much prefer shell, too, as someone who gets hot too quickly. Do you have any way of getting stuff delivered into the UK? If so Sportpursuit is the place to look, I recently picked up 2 Berghaus Goretex shells (one for me one for Mrs Ham) for £100-ish each) Last season, but you would be hard pressed to tell the difference. They sometimes have Spyder @ 50% off or more, you just have to keep looking. Best stuff often goes fast, they may only have individual examples of some stuff, and then sometimes only odd sizes.

Sponsored link - if you use this link and join, and subsequently order I get credit (don't cost you nuffing) http://www.sportpursuit.com/join/hamilton_095cea

Disclaimer: do not hold me responsible for buying too much cycling, snow or other sport gear that you didn't really need.

Jeebuz, there's some good deals there!. Luckily the ones I really want are either sold out or not available in my size!

(edit) and their shipping rates to Canada are entirely reasonable!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on October 05, 2013, 09:25:03 am
Anyone know anything about skiing in Norway?  (yeah OK, start at the top of the hill, yeah yeah) Specifically if looking for a least expensive option for Feb half term?

The last few years Mrs Ham & I have got away by ourselves on the cheap, Miss Ham is now suggesting that together with Miss Ham's beau we all go together to Norway.

Oh, if anyone has suggestions for the two of us (if the Norway falls through) much appreciated. Val Cenis last year was perfect, apartment right on the slopes for ski in ski out, limited ski but kept us happy for the week.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on October 05, 2013, 11:41:03 am
Norway does not equal 'least expensive' in any way....

I've only been to Geilo on ski/conference jollies but they're not exactly extensive ski areas. I'm not familiar with Val Cenis but size might be comparatively disappointing.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on October 05, 2013, 01:22:10 pm
For clarity, I am just exploring the Norway option, 'tis a fancy of Miss Ham.  My initial looking agrees with your assessment and doesn't leave me thrilled. Hence considering the backstop for Mrs Ham & I on our own. Val Cenis with 125Km of pistes (much of that green/blue paths) was rather small, tbh, but worked well for the two of us.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on October 12, 2013, 11:18:52 am
Just booked January's leg & bank account busting trip to St Anton. The Happy Valley beckons, the Moosserwirt doesn't.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on October 12, 2013, 01:40:07 pm
Just booked January's leg & bank account   artery busting trip to St Anton. The Happy Valley beckons, the Moosserwirt doesn't.
FTFY.


Mmmmm.....germknodel :P
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on October 14, 2013, 01:19:23 pm
I have booked Cervinia for Christmas and Tignes Lac for 3rd week of March. If I was feeling wealthy I would probably go somewhere late January as well.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on October 22, 2013, 06:04:48 pm
We'll be in Breckenridge again next year, and I've just seen the new terrain map since they opened up Peak 6.

http://www.breckenridge.com/~/media/Breckenridge/Files/Maps/2013-2014_TRAILMAP_web.ashx

Everything to the right of Peak 7 is new this season.
Looks really great!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on November 09, 2013, 11:12:20 pm
I'll take the Naked Bike Ride and raise you with this:
http://vimeo.com/77177549

Meanwhile the temps are refusing to drop here. We only just got snow on the peaks of the local mountains and it looks more likely that they wont open until December :(.

Whistler opens on the 28th and I might have to bite the bullet and do an early season day up there.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on November 13, 2013, 04:29:54 am
Ended up getting a Marmot Spire jacket. They were running a 20% sale on waterproofs and it was the one that fitted the best. Ok, the $800 Arcteryx was nicer, but I'm never going to pay that much for a jacket.
Goretex 3L for $425 and it'll substitute as a commuting jacket too. (lifetime warranty, so not worried about wear).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on November 17, 2013, 04:02:43 pm
Just fettled a pair of Hotronic electric tootsie-warmers into Mrs F's boots.
A surprisingly fiddly job.
Once the batteries have some electrons in them, she'll be clumping around testing them.

I've no idea how effective they are, but they seem to get good enough reviews.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 17, 2013, 07:17:51 pm
I fettled Hotronic into Mrs & Miss Ham's boots a couple of years ago, and I can confirm that they were very positively received. As the years go by I am constantly interested in how well they stand up to the abuse of not being properly used for 10 months of the year. Thus far, I can tell you that 3 years is OK, but at £45 a battery pack I'm hoping for more.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on November 19, 2013, 10:33:19 pm
Whistler opened last weekend, Mt Baker look to open this week and one of the local mountains will probably do the usual "Well, it's white, innit? (Just avoid the rocks, ok)" and open a run this weekend.
Picking up my board from the tuning shop (new basecoat, woot!) on Friday and this season is Go!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 19, 2013, 10:41:18 pm
Reminder to self - must get bindings fixed to new skis or I may not be skiing much the first day over christmas.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on November 19, 2013, 11:17:58 pm
I don't know about Hotronic, but the concept of boot warmers is very much endorsed by Mrs P.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on November 20, 2013, 08:07:02 pm
I bought new ski boots last month, to replace a several years old pair. I was persuaded that inner boot technology might have moved forward sufficiently that I wouldn't necessarily need my boot warmers anymore.....but having read this I might just make a little slot in the heel for the cable in case I decide I still need them after all.
(Sadly the new purchase was not one of the models that came with a cable routing port built in...)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: mark on November 20, 2013, 08:37:05 pm
Some ski boots have always been warmer than others, but inner boots in general have been getting warmer over the years. I'm convinced that clothing the rest of the body properly (good long underwear, a good wool hat, face and neck protection and good gloves or mittens to start with) and snug, properly fitted boots are worth more in keeping one's feet warm than electric heaters that only keep your feet warm until the battery dies.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 20, 2013, 08:40:24 pm
'fraid cold is still cold, even if it is modern cold. Miss Ham has particular problems with her extremities, and needs the boot heaters to stay out, even though she has girly furry shoes.

And boot heaters don't warm feet as much as stop them getting cold, batteries are good for a day's skiing (at least hotronic are).  For those that suffer, no number of layers or passive insulation manage to do what is needed.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on November 20, 2013, 08:43:10 pm
Interestingly enough, the boot fitters reckoned my old boots might have been a bit too big. Well....I'll find out soon. Like Miss Ham, my heaters stop my toes from feeling like they're going to snap off, rather than being warm.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: mark on November 20, 2013, 08:56:09 pm
Interestingly enough, the boot fitters reckoned my old boots might have been a bit too big. Well....I'll find out soon. Like Miss Ham, my heaters stop my toes from feeling like they're going to snap off, rather than being warm.

At one time it was estimated that 80-90% of all skiers were in boots that were at least one size too big, and at least 5% had boots that were two sizes too big. Some of my more frustrating moments as a ski instructor were when a student would be completely unable to improve past a certain point, just because his/her boots were too loose to  control his/her skis.

Let us know how the new boots work out.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on November 20, 2013, 09:59:17 pm
Mark, I think that's still the case.

The first pair of properly-fitted boots I got was in Banff, Canada, many years ago now.
The fitter was obviously much more knowledgeable than anyone I'd used before, by some margin.
However, my initial impression was that they were too small.
That's because I'd become accustomed to a carpet-slipper fit.
But I went with the fitter's advice, and was glad I did.

If you just go to the local shop here, they are not really that expert.
It's just a case of 'try them on, and see how they feel'.

R.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 20, 2013, 10:13:41 pm
I have a particular problem with very wide feet (and historically with bunions). When I got my current boots, I lashed out on a set of conformable' footbeds - worth every penny.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on November 21, 2013, 01:42:17 pm
I am thinking of buying new boots.  I have a big problem though. I am at the lower end of male foot size.  I am a wide 6½.  It is unusual for shops to stock a range of boots in this size. So it is tricky to get what I want.

I have already spent too much on ski stuff this year. I decided that my ski jacket was very faded. I saw someone in a lift queue, a couples of years ago, with the identical jacket. This man had obviously not skiied as often as me because his colours were bright compared to mine. The other aging problem was, I wanted a jacket with ski pass pocket on the sleeve. My exisiting one had a  tab for attaching the string retractor for an older lift pass system. Unfortunately the modern rfid pass in a pocket have been awkward or unreliable. So I bought a Eider Garmisch III jacket. Also two Odlo base layers and two Odlo mid layers. I also bought an Odlo soft shell to use in spring skiing. Finally I bought a Giro Seam helmet. I suspect I will need to buy a new pair of goggles my current ones may not fit with the helmet. So I have spent too much for boots this year.

   
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on November 21, 2013, 01:45:52 pm
Ref boot liners, I bought some ZipFit (?) liners a few years ago. Oil and cork granule filling which, so the marketing line went, mould themselves to your feet.

They are simply fantabulous. First day is a bit painful (whilst they have to adapt to the shape of my feet again), but after that they are very snug and I can leave the boots done up all day. I have never had anything as comfortable.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on November 21, 2013, 01:48:02 pm
And here's the link. (http://www.zipfit.com/about.html)

They can be retrofitted to your existing boots.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on November 23, 2013, 12:10:48 pm
Yad Moss was open yesterday, it was on page 4 of the Guardian today. It looks a bit thin, but it made lots of local papers in the North. http://tyneandwear.sky.com/news/article/89968/whitley-bay-photographer-captures-snows-as-freezing-night-forecast

Looking a bit grey today.
http://test.yadmoss.co.uk/
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 23, 2013, 03:41:30 pm
Reminder to self - must get bindings fixed to new skis or I may not be skiing much the first day over christmas.

Done, mine and miss Ham's.

As a minor aside, I phoned up to speak to the techie at Lacroix (expensive French skis, bought a pair cheap - £99 - for Miss Ham earlier in the year). I was getting on fine in French until I came up against the bit where I gave the name of the skis, which are called iLand (yeah, whatever). I pronounced it as if I were reading French - ih-lond, the techie was baffled until he realised - "Ah... eye-land". Oh well.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on November 23, 2013, 06:23:57 pm
Hmm, I have 8 pairs of skis to wax and edge before the 20th Dec.

Has anyone ever tried to teach a pair of octopuses[1] to ski?  It's bloody hard work.




[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plural_form_of_words_ending_in_-us#Octopus
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on November 23, 2013, 08:46:15 pm
You're a sucker for that sort of thing.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on November 23, 2013, 09:10:11 pm
Well, I had the work inked-in on my schedule anyway.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 24, 2013, 08:40:46 am
Did you not know that today is National Edge & Wax day? Fact.

(Trying to think of a way of working in the sick squid joke, failing, maybe because I cooked calamari fritte last night)

Why are octopuses good at rugby? Because they have ten tackles.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on November 24, 2013, 09:15:30 pm
Did you not know that today is National Edge & Wax day? Fact.

Yes, but that's just in Brazil.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on November 29, 2013, 09:07:51 pm
GnnNnnnnRnnrn...it's been dry all week and now the temps are going up and it'll rain (even in alpine) this weekend...
Whistler wont get rain, but only a handful of runs are open and at $83, it's not worth it....
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 06, 2013, 05:40:56 pm
Don't try this at home...

http://mpora.com/videos/AAdh3ycnmdd3

ETA - ifn fact - a great waste of Friday afternoon is http://mpora.com/
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on December 13, 2013, 02:02:10 pm
I'm getting nervous about the snow.  In November I was quite happy about the development of the alpine snow line.  A few big falls at the end of November had brought it down to around 1500m in the Tarentaise. Obviously the lower lying falls will have melted by then but since then nothing. I am off to Cervinia for Christmas.  There will not be any new snow until next weekend.  So I may not be enjoying the long runs from the top down into Valtourneche. I'm not sure if the Italian Aosta resorts are snow cannoned as much as the big French resorts.

Looking at La Plagne on webcams.  I found a low lying webcam pointing at Montchevin. This showed not enough snow but had enormous piles of artificial snow ready to be spread onto soon to be pistes. Looking across to Valandry in Les Arcs it is clear that the snow field is down to resort level but no further. There are probably some closed pistes here and there in Paradiski. Skiing down the black from Belllecote glacier down to Montchevin may be a no no. As could the blacks heading towards Montalbert. I thought Champagny en Vanoise was looking terrible then noticed the webcam had not be updated since May. I assume Ham will be OK at Belle Plagne its just that the frayed edges will be dodgy.

 
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 13, 2013, 02:21:57 pm
Derniere neige 30/11/13....Généralement sec.....

Oh well. The last couple of years have been really brilliant, musn't grumble.

Grumble grumble grumble
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on December 16, 2013, 05:28:37 am
Finally got up to Cypress (Local mountain) on Thursday. Only 2 runs open, all with man made snow, which was actually decent enough and while it quickly got boring, it was a good warm-up. Forecast is pretty mixed all around. My favourite area at Whistler is not open yet, so I wont bother going there until it is...
This time last year, we were happily running the black tree runs at Cypress, which requires loads of fresh snow to be worthwhile...
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on December 16, 2013, 01:21:08 pm
The forecast is promising snow for the end of the week. 20cm or so is better than nothing.  Will make the pistes much better.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on December 19, 2013, 01:36:16 pm
Il neige.  Not a lot but more Tuesday night.


For Ham
http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/La-Plagne/6day/mid

For me
http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Cervinia/6day/mid
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on December 19, 2013, 08:28:07 pm
 :thumbsup:

We're off to the 3 valleys on Saturday. There's nothing we can do about the snow so I had just accepted it might not be ideal in places. However, a small smattering will help.

Have fun all :)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 19, 2013, 10:12:43 pm
Just got teh car packed, heading out tomorrow.... byeeeeeee!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on December 20, 2013, 11:40:18 am
I go on Sunday. Bristol Airport early afternoon. Hopefully I will get to Cervinia in time for dinner. Departure was originally set for 6am so plenty of time but it has moved back.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 21, 2013, 01:52:33 pm
Just arrived in Denver. Snowing lightly. Fresh snow in resort. Lunch in Frisco and then on to Breck.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 25, 2013, 11:02:28 pm
Peak 6 just had its inaugural day here in Breck.  A glorious afternoon in sunshine, powder and bloody cold temperatures. Someone seems to have spiked the water with Stupid, since loads of people were fcking up getting off the new Kensho chair, causing it to stop every minute or so.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 28, 2013, 09:04:12 pm
Just back, 'twas a great week, snow looks set fair for the next week, although I've never seen slopes busier or (on Friday) more people stretchered off in one day (appx 6, including a heli lift), especially as I've seen conditions a whole lot worse. Full report when I'm a little less zombie like.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ruth on December 28, 2013, 09:20:00 pm
21st Jan I'll be off to Blue Mountain Ontario. Absolutely cacking myself and my knees are squeaking with fear. But I am fully equipped, courtesy of Aldi. What could possibly go wrong?
Title: Paging Ski nerds: Long weekend for the missus suggestions
Post by: closetleftie on December 29, 2013, 11:06:23 am
I'm in need of some brownie points.  ;D :-[ A long weekend on the slopes for Mrs L & a mate should do nicely (Mate would be paying for herself).  I have NO ski knowledge so would be after advice from teh FSNs* plz.

The specs are:


So: over to you! Resort? Country? Operator? Or is this a harebrained idea and I should just buy flowers instead?  ;D




*Forum Ski Nerds, natch.  :P
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 29, 2013, 11:34:07 am
Damn fine idea if you ask me .... Portes de Soleil area has something for everyone and is easiest  to get to. Chatel / Avoriaz come to mind. Hotel accommodation? Igluski.com have a good selection of stuff and are dependable, helpful on the phone, the people you talk to will know about skiing. Quick transfer from Geneva seems to be the best move for you. I'll add some detailed suggestions later.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 29, 2013, 11:38:11 am
21st Jan I'll be off to Blue Mountain Ontario. Absolutely cacking myself and my knees are squeaking with fear. But I am fully equipped, courtesy of Aldi. What could possibly go wrong?

Absolutely nothing. Snow is soft.

;)

Have a great time .... any specific questions?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on December 29, 2013, 11:48:47 am
I've done independent ski weekends and organised weekend breaks. On the latter I used skiweekends.com and it was all incredibly easy. We went to La Tania in the 3 valleys which may not be the most obvious choice as it is a fairly long transfer time, but given there was a minibus waiting for us as we arrived and whisked us straight off, I actually left straight from work on a Thursday and was in resort before midnight. We then got to ski all day Friday, Saturday and Sunday morning before coming home. I've also done a weekend independent break in Courcheval and again, despite a long transfer we were there easily before midnight after leaving work around 4pm'ish. The other place I've been independently is Sauze d'oulx. Flight to Turin and then there is a nice British chap who lives in resort who will come and pick you up (I can dig out his details) and take you to whichever hotel you are staying in. Plenty of hotel choice in Sauze. Price wise, independent or organised work out about the same. Just don't bother with any holidays in Bride les Bains, which will be pretty cheap, but there's a reason for that.....(it is in the 3 valleys, but right at the bottom and there is a VERY long lift to get you to the slopes). I'm not sure what the snow train timetable is like, but that might be an option, at least to get you there (I think it is overnight on a Friday so you arrive in resort sat morning). I've not used it but heard good things from those who have. Isn't Chamonix supposed to be one of the shortest transfer times?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on December 29, 2013, 12:00:15 pm
We've just come back from a pretty decent week in Meribel Mottaret. Despite hardly any snow since the end of Nov, the pistes were in a remarkably decent condition for the first few days. Snow was a bit thin in a few places but nothing to worry about (especially on hire skis). It was a bit odd, seeing white pistes snaking down through green surrounding areas.....also, for the first few days it didint feel like December at all, but more like April. It was warm and sunny!

Then, the wind whipped up so we had to stay in our own valley as the higher lifts weren't working. Then it rained (sob) so Xmas day was literally a bit of a wash out. But then, the snow came. It made for quite difficult conditions on Thursday, with limited visibility and lots and lots of soft snow. The last day on Friday was the perfect end. Lots and lots of snow and clear blue skies. The lifts were absolutely rammed so lots of queues. And it get very lumpy and choppy within a few short hours. Because of the avalanche risk lots of lifts higher up didn't open till lunch time, forcing all of us to the few other remaining lifts. Still, the conditions were great and it was a good end to the holiday.

We had a long delay at grenoble yesterday as some coach transfers were stuck in ridiculous traffic and took nearly 9 hours to get to the airport!!!!!

GN: my boot heaters are ace
BN: the additional steroid injections haven't improved my bad feet any more so there still get pretty ouchy. I did have more than one complete paddy at the side of the piste when I ripped my skis and boots off and threw them down the hill and lay in the snow sobbing. At times like that I wonder why I bother  :-\ but then they feel better I zoom down a piste and it is pretty bloody amazing.

Looking forward to Val d'Isere in March  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on December 29, 2013, 02:03:08 pm
And this is what six days of skiing from Meribel looks like in geographical form. (http://goo.gl/y6EV71)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 29, 2013, 07:43:55 pm
Let me guess - you had a three valley pass ;)

Just spent an amusing few minutes playing "name that run", Don't think I did very well. If I'm correct and Roc Merlet is on the RH side, you went down into 1650 (which as any fule kno is some of the best skiing) so Pyramids is easy, and I think that Chapped Lips is the lift on the very right. Should know the VT stuff, but the Meribel is too confusing. Looks good though.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on December 29, 2013, 07:54:50 pm
Been ages since we've been to Mottaret, seems all the major operators that run flights from the frozen north don't have any chalets there anymore, and Pingu won't stay in Meribel itself.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on December 29, 2013, 08:51:27 pm
Let me guess - you had a three valley pass ;)

Yip, tho ended up exploring Meribel valley the most because of the weather.


you went down into 1650 (which as any fule kno is some of the best skiing) so Pyramids is easy,and I think that Chapped Lips is the lift on the very right.

Yes, went to 1650 on the first day and did Chapelets, Pyramids & Rochers.



Should know the VT stuff, but the Meribel is too confusing. Looks good though.

VT run was Lac Blanc and also Lac Noir above Les Menuires.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 31, 2013, 11:06:35 am
Following up, it was an interesting week, with only two days of bad weather. However, the snow was getting really really thin by the time it dumped on Wednesday, and my lovely noo skis are not happy. 'twas interesting changing from my old Salamon Streetracers to a pair of Storm Detonates http://www.stormskis.com/shop/all-terrain/detonate.html

<Ski review>
I'd regard myself as a middling ability skier, happy to go down any piste, and able to get enough thrills on a decent red to go chasing black, not particularly fast and often playing lantern rouge behind Mrs Ham. The Streetracers are heavy and like going fast, which is why I thought I might like a change. TBH, given the level of my skiing I wondered how much difference the skis would make. Answer: a lot. The Storm skis are excellent at what they are, light, initiate turns very easily, very good piste skis indeed. But. They run out of performance, while they are steady at speed, they don't give the same positive skiing on rails feeling as the Salomons, carving is several degrees less precise. Where I REALLY noticed the difference is on the toughest slope I skied all week: the red Kamikaze down into Champagny. It's a steep red, south facing, skied off but with moguls, which we did first thing in the morning so sheet ice for much, needed precise turns round the moguls which I couldn't really achieve on the skis. Didn't fall, but not for want of trying ;) I also noticed that on challenging slopes I needed more effort than the Salomons, although they did feel secure mostly.

So, worthwhile skis I would recommend for the price (especially the price I paid - 160 with bindings) but I won't be selling my Salomons. I was thinking of selling the Storms, but actually they are so easy going, I'm going to keep them, too.
</Ski review>

<Ski tip>
Following on from all the above, and given the graunching the skis received in the early part of the week, I really felt the benefit of the habit I have of marking skis left and right and keeping them that way for the most part. The  last day was fantastic - sun, great snow, so I was able to put my skis on the "wrong" feet and get a brand noo edge. (This is because you ski on the inside always)
</Ski tip>

Now looking to go February - Banff @ £800 pp flights, b&b is looking very attractive.

ETA Booked  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on January 02, 2014, 03:55:24 pm
I am back from Cervinia. Had a mix of too little and too much snow. 
Day 0 Sunday Routine flight and transfer to Hotel Edelweiss.
Day 1 Monday. Explore Cervinia and Valtourneche.
Day 2 Tuesday This was good, in the afternoon we skied into the local area of Zermatt. We were planning an assault of the more interesting areas of Zermatt in the next few days buy then the weather arrived.
Day 3 Wednesday The high lifts were closed and we stopped mid morning because the flat light was making us feel unwell. 
Day 4 Thursday Heavy snow, only two short blue pistes open, so another day lost.
Day 5 Friday I get up to blue skies, let's go. We queue for the bottom cable car as the bubbles are still coming out of the garage. We expect to catch the 'Plan Maison' chair but it is not open.  So we ski down to the 'Pancheron' chair but that is about to start but has an enormous queue waiting so we descend to the bottom chair and try again. Back at 'Pancheron' there is still an enormous queue but is now moving and we join it. At the top the black is closed as expected so we take the blue down past the reds which were closed, not expected. So it was back to Plan Maison still not ready so Pancheron next time Plan Maison is running and we join the queue at the top we expected 'Fornet Chair' to be running it was not but looked like it would soon. We descend back to Plan Maison and try our luck with the second bubble. We get to the top hoping to get cable car to Zermatt and Valtourneche its not running. We take the red down perhaps the chair into Valtourneche would be running, of course not.  Back up from the bottom,  Plan Maison, something new 'Fornet' chair is running but needless to say the 'Bontadini' chair to the top was not. We are trapped mid station for the remainder of the day.    It was clear that the mountain workers had a lot of work to get the pistes ready today inducing avalances and preparing pistes with uneven snow on them.  Some had very deep snow others had had all the new snow blown away.
Day 6 Saturday The weather is not so nice but as we work our way around 'Bontadini' is running but at the top the only open piste sends us back to the chair. We continue back to the middle bubble but this time the Plateau Rosa cable car is running at last we can get to a top. The way to Zermatt remains closed but we can go to Valtourneche again so we do.  As we come back the weather is closing in again. We take a wrong turn in the mist following a sign pointing "Breuil-Cervinia" and a group heading back to Valtourneche. Oops our route was on a closed piste we could see from above in good weather but not today. Rather than walk back up the hill we took it anyway.  Deep uneven snow that I cannot see properly in the mist. My inadequate technique and equipment, it was the GS skis not me honest, resulted in me sticking my skis in a drift mid piste and falling over. No problem I think as my brother disappears into the fog.  I push my hand out to push myself upright but my arm disappears into the snow. Ok I try my pole that also does not touch anything hard.  Here dies CTF on a closed unpatrolled piste where nobody will find him lying in the snow. Ok I manage to work myself closer to my skies where I could move them flat, then stood up. CTF lives! I ski to the end of the piste and join the easy bashed red until we found a place to eat.  We ski around in Cervinia and take one last ride up Pancheron and onto the red that was closed yesterday.  Visibility is still poor, I stop count my brothers and only get to one.  I look back and see a grey pile on the blue piste above. David has fallen on a blue, ha ha.  I instruct Martin to take a picture. David gets up and drops again. Eventually he continues, I shout 'This way, down here."  He replies "I am taking the blue." Very unlike him normally "I am taking the mogul field."   I descend rapidly with Martin and wait at the bottom.  He does not arrive. Perhaps he got here before us. I look at the ski area front to see if he is waiting for us lower down. He is not. Martin and I take our skis back to the shop. I return to wait at the bottom of the Piste and Martin goes back to the Hotel to look for him. After twenty minutes I give up and also go back to the hotel. Martin is waiting in the boot room but David has not been back. I took my boot off and put it on the drying rack then sat and waited.  Eventually there is the footsteps of Martin and an unusual clumping of ski boots and David arrives. He has just skied down from just below a middle chair on chopped snow with a twisted knee. He explains it took a longtime when he collapsed in pain every time he turned right. We got him an ice pack from the hotel and told him to read his book.
Day +1 Sunday I carry David's bag to the bus and we leave at 6:35. We arrive at around 10am at Turin airport and walk to check-in, so far so good. We go on to security check-in where there is an unexpected queue. Turin is normally a quiet airport especially on Sunday. We enter the departure hall expecting to find a seat.  No chance. Outside I can see ten Thomson Airway planes waiting for passengers.  We are too impatient to queue for food or drink.  This is not a problem but when the flights are called the real problem begins. Airports like Turin mostly handle internal and Schengen flights so they do not have large border control areas. Needless to say ten flights leaving within an hour to a non Schengen country like the UK are beyond its capacity.  A queue started to develop as soon as the first two Thomson flights to the UK were called. I saw this and got on the massive snaking queue as soon as out flight was called.  I could hear last calls for flights then calls for named passengers who were probably stuck in this queue. By the time I got to the front of the queue the airport had two additional people checking passports without desks rushing people through. I got to my seat on the Bristol flight with five minutes to spare. Needless to say my flight left its stand twenty minutes late. Arrived on time though.  Flying is horrible at the best of times. Thomson/Crystal bus optimisation has made it a nightmare.
Day +2 Monday Took David to the Univeristy Hospital, Cardiff, to have is knee looked at. Only a strain should be good to go to Tignes in March.
             
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 02, 2014, 04:10:37 pm
Just cut some holes in my brand new boots for the boot heaters I'm hoping I won't actually need to fit....
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on January 02, 2014, 04:17:50 pm
Just back from from Xcape at Milton Keynes :Rolleyes:

Whilst it's views aren't as great as it's near neighbour, John Nike Centre in Bracknell it boasts nearly 100m of mainly (OK exclusively) blue run on man made snow.

The trip was actually to help my son get his ski legs back ahead of his school trip and to that end it was perfect. Definitely better on snow, even man made and indoors, than on a dry slope. Plus may be the only skiing I get this year :(.

And boasting both a Harvester and a McDonalds the apres ski is better than Bracknell
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 02, 2014, 05:02:52 pm
Just cut some holes in my brand new boots for the boot heaters I'm hoping I won't actually need to fit....

Wossat with the holes? never had to do that.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 02, 2014, 05:11:15 pm
A wee slice at the heel of the inner boot to let the wire through so it passes up between the inner and outer.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 03, 2014, 05:54:24 am
Well, a torn rotator cuff has limited my season to 2 hours on early season man-made snow  :'(

Here's to next season.....
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 03, 2014, 08:36:27 am
You have my sympathy; if you did it the way I did my knee a couple of years back (at the same holiday stage) - that is not thrashing madly down a steep couloire but sitting down unintentionally at the top of slope without going anywhere - you will find it hurts a little more....

gws
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: closetleftie on January 03, 2014, 11:09:44 am
Damn fine idea if you ask me .... Portes de Soleil area has something for everyone and is easiest  to get to. Chatel / Avoriaz come to mind. Hotel accommodation? Igluski.com have a good selection of stuff and are dependable, helpful on the phone, the people you talk to will know about skiing. Quick transfer from Geneva seems to be the best move for you. I'll add some detailed suggestions later.

Follow-up. Mrs L and Mate going to Samoens for 3 days from Jan 31st. I'm out of the dog house, I think.  ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 03, 2014, 06:19:18 pm
Just back from a couple of weeks in Breck, Colorado.
It's been snowing quite a lot, and we had several powder days.
Some days, the viz was poor due to the cloud being down and it dumping down.
High winds above the tree line too, on the T-bar and on Imperial, when it was running.
Much of the hike-to and gated terrain was closed unfortunately.

Only a couple of photos ( I CBA taking photos when I'm out skiing! )
Here's us about to head into a steepish wooded glade called Windows:

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7394/11734957253_5fb44f0063_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/11734957253/)
Windows - Breckenridge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/11734957253/) by Ron Lowe (http://www.flickr.com/people/62966413@N04/), on Flickr

On another part of the same mountain, in amongst the forest you may stumble across some home-made signage.
Here's the entrance to a glade called The Doors.  We first came across this several years ago, but we usually go back there just for fun.
The sign being home-made with a sharpie marker has faded over the years, and is now barely readable.
It's written in the font style of The Doors album cover:

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3675/11734708295_71a433d8c7_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/11734708295/)
The Doors - Breckenridge (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/11734708295/) by Ron Lowe (http://www.flickr.com/people/62966413@N04/), on Flickr




Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on January 22, 2014, 01:28:40 pm
Phew! Work has just approved leave for the March holiday that I applied for last September. I was getting worried they sometime ban all leave in the first four months of the year. At the moment I am glad I booked in March this January has not had a lot of sun shine.  Still that means more snow.

 
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on January 22, 2014, 07:00:02 pm
Going to Laax again for a long weekend (4 days skiing) boys trip in March.

Money mostly saved for family skiing holiday in 2015 (half term to think about now!). Woo!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 22, 2014, 07:07:44 pm
Four days in Flaine with two chaps to whom I give 14 years each. Boy, did my legs hurt when I got back.

I think in one day we covered as much ground as I would in half a week with the family.

One day of slight overcast. One sunny day. One snowy day and then a day of fresh snow. Fabulous fun. But no mid-morning stops !

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 24, 2014, 07:44:33 pm
Packed and ready to go :)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 24, 2014, 07:48:38 pm
Gits!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 24, 2014, 07:54:13 pm
You've had yours already, don't be greedy ;)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on February 02, 2014, 09:53:57 pm
And we're back. Mixed bag weatherwise, but we got 6 full days in. Food was good - Mrs P determined where to find the best germknoedel  :P 

Some pics here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/sets/72157640408843086/

Some tracks (you can see where we stopped for lunch!):
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/3994622
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/3994618
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/3994636
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/3994639
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/3994641
http://ridewithgps.com/routes/3994643
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ruth on February 02, 2014, 09:56:14 pm
Pingu, what a gorgeous place.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on February 02, 2014, 11:16:03 pm
Looks good!

And those look like actual GPS tracklogs.
Have you availed yourself of such a unit as might be suitable for DIYxGPS?

F.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on February 03, 2014, 12:25:42 pm
And we're back.

Excellent pics/tracks.

If you go back then give Zurser Tali (from the top of the Muggengrat-Tali lift from Zurs) a go. Lovely long sweeping red.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on February 03, 2014, 12:40:55 pm
Looks good!

And those look like actual GPS tracklogs.
Have you availed yourself of such a unit as might be suitable for DIYxGPS?

F.

It was Mrs P's phone.

I am seriously considering getting GPS thingummy for DIYxGPS, though.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on February 06, 2014, 03:26:57 am
My shoulder is not entirely doomed. (And my physio is also a snow-fiend)..and it looks like I might just have to call in sick Tues/Weds next week:
http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Whistler-Blackcomb/6day/mid
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on February 06, 2014, 10:52:49 pm
I forgot to mention - helmets! There must've been 90% coverage  ::-)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 08, 2014, 10:53:55 am
Winter Olympics - whatever happened to ski ballet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awkqte1mgcs

On another note, my tickets for Banff arrived  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: along with a piste map. The US ones really suck compared to the French ones, eh?Question though, please. The US grading - are the "Double Diamond" blacks really European Black equivalents? Or, are they more red/steep red than black? Any guidance? I ask because Mrs Ham is feeling a little vulnerable at the mo, and I don't want to drag her anywhere she will feel uncomfortable.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: mark on February 09, 2014, 12:26:04 am
Double diamond slopes in the US are the steepest, most demanding runs at a given ski area. The progression around here is:
Green circle- easiest
Blue square- intermediate
Blue black (blue square w/ black diamond inside)- advanced intermediate
Single black diamond: advanced
Double black diamond: expert
Since you're going to Banff you might want to ask around about how the Canadians rate their slopes. I'm sure the folks at Banff will agree with you about US trail maps, though.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ruth on February 09, 2014, 12:30:28 am
Winter Olympics - whatever happened to ski ballet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Awkqte1mgcs

On another note, my tickets for Banff arrived  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: along with a piste map. The US ones really suck compared to the French ones, eh?Question though, please. The US grading - are the "Double Diamond" blacks really European Black equivalents? Or, are they more red/steep red than black? Any guidance? I ask because Mrs Ham is feeling a little vulnerable at the mo, and I don't want to drag her anywhere she will feel uncomfortable.

My understanding is that it's resort-specific.  Although black double-diamond is still the hardest, iyswim.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on February 09, 2014, 12:32:15 am
Ham - there's no agreement about slope grading between any resorts anywhere AFAICT. Or even within the same resort sometimes  ::-)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 09, 2014, 08:35:10 am
 :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[ :-[

Did I really say US? oops. Sorry 35,000,000 times, OK?

Look I really don't have much time to spend online at the moment all right?  Again? OK, ANOTHER 35,000,000

I'm familiar with the vagaries of run grading, just that the euro alpine maps give you a better sense of the terrain, also there are few areas that are served just with real blacks. Think I'll tell Mrs Ham black is the Canadian red and see where we get to.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on February 09, 2014, 08:45:43 pm
In general, I'd say the gradings work a bit like this:

US green = European green.  Pretty much flat, can be skied by anyone.
US blue = Wide range, covering stuff I'd consider green, through stuff I'd consider Euro-blue and into stuff that would be Euro-red.
US black = Euro-Red + a bit of easier euro-black.
US Black double-diamond = Euro proper black.
US Black double-diamond EX ( Extreme Terrain ) = Euro ducking-under-the-ropes couloirs etc.   Generally gated and/or hike-to terrain.

The lack of a Red in the US system is a bit confusing for euro-types.
Basically, if you are confident on euro-reds you'll be fine on US blacks.

Double-diamond and above will be un-pisted natural terrain, with obstacles, like trees.   Narrow steep glades through the trees are superb.   In the US you will find yourself in amongst trees much more than in Europe, where you're above the tree-line most of the time.   In general, much less crowded.  You won't come across the steep section with a beginner stopped on top of every mogul like you can in Europe.

It's been 10 years since I was in Banff, and I mostly skied Lake Louise then ( better crèche facilities at the time ).
Banff itself is a decent enough little town, and the ski areas are about an hour drive away along the scenic highway.
We saw a bear away off to the side of the road.
You will probably find Lake Louise a bit small compared to the mega Euro areas like 3 vallees and Espace Killy.   There's not much on the mountain, and you'll generally return to the base area for lunch.   But the snow conditions are superb.   Be prepared for it to be *cold*.

Have fun.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 09, 2014, 10:39:14 pm
Thanks for the translation, Feanor, that's what I was hoping for. Basically, it sounds as if as long as we avoid the ET Mrs Ham should be ok (although we regularly ski closed reds - they're quiet!). She's fine on steep as long as it isn't crowded, but I'll probably avoid the double diamond on account of how she has slowed down in recent years so unpisted can be hard work. Mrs Ham has Hotronic liners, any number of layers and Little Hotties. We'll just have fun.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on February 16, 2014, 10:55:08 pm
Just a quick note...

In Europe, it's considered OK to duck under the ropes to access interesting terrain.
That's totally not-OK in the US.

The ski-area boundaries will be well-defined with ropes etc, and there will be 'gates' to access off-piste areas.
You can only access off-piste areas through the official gates, which may be open or not.
Do *not* attempt to cross the ski area boundaries elsewhere.

Also, last year there were speed cops!
Yup, if you were deemed too fast through the 'slow ski' areas, they'd pull your pass!

R.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on February 17, 2014, 04:21:00 am
Just a quick note...

In Europe, it's considered OK to duck under the ropes to access interesting terrain.
That's totally not-OK in the US.

The ski-area boundaries will be well-defined with ropes etc, and there will be 'gates' to access off-piste areas.
You can only access off-piste areas through the official gates, which may be open or not.
Do *not* attempt to cross the ski area boundaries elsewhere.

Also, last year there were speed cops!
Yup, if you were deemed too fast through the 'slow ski' areas, they'd pull your pass!

R.

Hmm? I think that varies from resort to resort. Mt Baker got a variety of warnings depends on the terrain. Some of the in-bound terrain (The canyon mainly)  is often closed due to avalanche danger and the signs there pretty much say that you *will* die if you enter there (when closed) and that your family will be charged for recovering your corpse.
 On the two top lifts, it's just the usual backcountry warning: Know what you're doing, don't go alone, tell some one you're going and have appropriate gear (beacons, poles, shovels and radios).
Never seen speed patrol at Mt. Baker, but they're common at Whistler, especially near closing when idiots thinks it's cool to go flatout on a super-crowded green run. Also, they'll tell you to slow down, it's only when you don't that you risk losing your pass.

In other news, the snow has finally arrived in the PNW. Baker got 3 meters(!) in the last 6 days and the forecast for the next 7 days is full of snow.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: mark on February 17, 2014, 11:35:08 am

Hmm? I think that varies from resort to resort. Mt Baker got a variety of warnings depends on the terrain. Some of the in-bound terrain (The canyon mainly)  is often closed due to avalanche danger and the signs there pretty much say that you *will* die if you enter there (when closed) and that your family will be charged for recovering your corpse.
 On the two top lifts, it's just the usual backcountry warning: Know what you're doing, don't go alone, tell some one you're going and have appropriate gear (beacons, poles, shovels and radios).
Never seen speed patrol at Mt. Baker, but they're common at Whistler, especially near closing when idiots thinks it's cool to go flatout on a super-crowded green run. Also, they'll tell you to slow down, it's only when you don't that you risk losing your pass.

In other news, the snow has finally arrived in the PNW. Baker got 3 meters(!) in the last 6 days and the forecast for the next 7 days is full of snow.

Different US states have different laws about accessing the back country from ski areas. Colorado state law says you have to use a backcountry access gate to access the backcountry from a ski area, and ski patrol for that area will decide whether or not to open the gate depending on conditions. The reasoning is that, if people see tracks leaving the ski area, they will assume that it's safe to ski out of bounds whether it is or not.

Speed patrol at Vail seems to make some allowance for skiing ability before they decide to tell you to slow down. I recall coming into the base area at a good rate of speed and getting "Good afternoon, sir", from a safety patrol person, while he was saying "slow down please" to all the people I was passing.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 17, 2014, 03:13:40 pm
1st day yesterday, snow is fantastic. Of course the Family Day weekend holiday  in Alberta meant that there was a Euro style queue for the gondola at the bottom of Sunshine Village, the locals could be heard complaining! but, after that, no queues. Piste marking is a lot less distinct here, but actually doesn't seem to matter too much as the "off piste" is relatively tame (disclaimer:unlikely to be the case in the Back country areas) not encountered anything scary yet, but again more to do with the choices than the mountain. And yes, I've avoided ducking underneath closed areas.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on February 26, 2014, 10:02:06 am
Back after the standard half term week with, shock horror, an injury !

However, nothing to do with skiing. Car battery was flat, jump leads in the back, but no electricity means boot won't open. I had to clamber over front seats, over back seats and then reach to the far end of the car to get the cover for the wheel well open and then scrabble around deep down there for the leads. I managed to pop the cartilage end off my lower left rib. Ouch. Just as well we'd finished skiing.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 28, 2014, 10:19:55 am
Back from Banff, actually last Sunday but haven't caught my breath since.

Absolutely brilliant week, super snow, empty slopes, great place - would thoroughly recommend. Shame about the close to 24 hours at the airport on the way back  >:(

Haven't even had the time to get the photos off the camera, maybe later.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Redlight on February 28, 2014, 12:20:43 pm
Other extreme for me, I'm afraid. Just been told that my ankle (broken in collision 7 weeks ago) will not be strong enough for me to ski in Les Trois Vallee at Easter, which is a huge disappointment as we've had the holiday booked since last October.  :'(

On the bright side, I suppose I could book somewhere warm and just laze around for a week.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on March 05, 2014, 12:43:07 am
It was snowing heavily downtown on last Monday, just cold enough to settle and by mid-afternoon I was jumping up and down, eager to get up the hill the moment I got off work.
Highway a bit sketchy and when I turned off for the mountain road, I just lucked in with snowplough turning around. "Great, I don't have to worry about the road", I thought and happily stuck behind it. (2 other cars between me and the truck.). However, the higher we went, the less snow the truck was pushing to the side and then people started overtaking the snowplough...and after awhile, so did I and the road was virtually clear. At this point the outside temp had gone up from 0 to 1 and it was clear that there was a nasty inversion in place and aside from the very top (where there was a good 2 feet of powder), it was 2 feet of wet snow :(
I did a couple of runs and went home :(.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on March 05, 2014, 06:51:44 pm
Off to Laax tomorrow but won't get there until late so no skiing until Friday.

Good snow recently and the forecast is for good days of bright sunshine. I'll take that (over endless whiteouts).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on March 06, 2014, 12:41:48 pm
I am glad I did not book this week. I was looking at the Tignes webcam 10.30 french time. Even at the end of the week there were queues at Palafour, Tichot, Lanches and Bollin/Fresse. The new Toviere in Lac which replaced Aeroski seams to have coped with its queue. Ten days until I step out. The crowds will be reduced but so will the snow unless a nice storm comes in.  I expect to use up my sunblock and aftersun this trip.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on March 09, 2014, 06:51:24 am
Pretty good odds for having a powder day tomorrow at Whistler. Temps not as low as I would have liked, but still below freezing and that's probably about as good as it's going to get for this season. Still don't really have the legs for it, but I got a day on my pass and I'll spend spring at the local mountain instead.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on March 14, 2014, 01:11:56 pm
I will be starting my journey to Tignes to ski if there is any left. The forecast was 120C at the bottom on Monday so it will be melting fast. The 0 degree isotherm is near the top of the Grand Motte. I think I will be skiing boiler plate and slush all week with about ten minutes of nice snow mid morning. Too Hot :(
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on March 14, 2014, 05:12:59 pm
Don't be so pessimistic. I'm off to Val d'Isere on Sunday and it is going to be amazing :) There's a good snow base - better than there was at xmas when it was also pretty warm for a few days.

The bottom bits might be a bit slushy in the afternoon, but stay high and you'll be fine. Pack the factor 50!

I'll wave at you from across the valley.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on March 24, 2014, 01:12:17 pm
It turned out a lovely weeks skiing despite a few problems.
Problem 1. One of my brothers had twisted his knee at Christmas so was unable to ski the difficult pistes and snow. Although we did manage to ski down Sache once. We skied Face several times but the other black runs were ignored.
Problem 2. On the first day I noticed a problem with my boot. The foam in the liner was breaking up had slid down to the heel. On the second day this became unbearable. So I descended to Tignes Val Claret and entered a a ski shop to buy new boots. After trying four boots I selected the first as the best fitting. I paid £215 and resumed skiing. When I returned home I began the process to see if I had been ripped off. Not easy, the boot I chose was a Technica Ten.2 85 RT. I could find the Ten.2 80 and Ten.2 90 but could not find the 85 for sale anywhere in the UK. Eventually I google a chart of all this years Technica boots. I discovered that RT means Rental so there is no RRP. to find. The price is still unsettling the 80 is a much cheaper boot The 90's RRP is a little more than I paid £240. To make my journey a little harder I discovered the slightly taller boots do not fit my boot bag rucksack. At home Yesterday evening I tried again and found actually they do. The other boot buying annoyance was on the day I left most shops had started their end of season sale 30% off all this years stock. Many shops have some 2014-2015 kit so you will not get a discount on that until next year.
Problem 3. On Sunday morning having exited Eurostar the tube train took me as far as Baker Street. The train and station announcements said the train will be going no further due to signal failure "continue your journey above ground". As you know ski luggage is heavy and/or awkward. The walk from Baker street to Paddington is not too bad normally.  Judging by the queue for the bus outside Edgware Road tube station the problem had not been fixed. The walk was ok but not good for my brothers knee.
     
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on March 24, 2014, 03:42:07 pm
Aye, emergency purchases in ski resorts tend not to be cheap.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on April 16, 2014, 11:28:36 pm
I know I should have put this into the ad joke thread, sorry an' all, and I know I can't draw

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Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on October 24, 2014, 01:21:38 pm
The first snow of the season, at resort level in the French alps, fell this week.  Mostly gone now.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on October 24, 2014, 09:00:48 pm
Yes indeedy.  There was snow on high ground in ScotlandLand last week too.

We've just begun digging the ski kit out and examining it.
New skis for Junior#2 arrived a couple of days ago.  Bindings fitted and adjusted.
They join the queue for waxing / edgeing in a few weeks time.

( New skis are not supplied with any proper wax, but the edge angles are usually well-set for recreational skiing.
Since they are no longer racing, I no longer customise the edge angles unless it's especially icy in which case I may.
And in the case of rentals, I usually will, because they seem to be edged by a monkey with an angle grinder.)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on October 25, 2014, 05:28:26 pm
We appear to be going to Italyland over Christmas, at one stage we were in danger of not going anywhere despite it being Mrs Ham's 60th and a 22 year habit over Christmas.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on October 26, 2014, 10:31:18 pm
Oh, where are you going?
We've not been to Italy very often, just the twice I can remember.

Livigno on both occasions.
There's nothing very special about the place, other than it's curious tax status.

First time was umpty years ago.
Second time was with extended family of varying abilities.

Best thing about Italian ski resorts is Italian food.
( Oh, that and the young dark-haired Italian woman who provided my first 'hands-on' snowboard lesson.   But I'm Not Allowed to talk about that. )
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on October 27, 2014, 05:01:41 am
Champoluc is our destination (did have to look it up  ;) ), looks interesting. At least we're flying.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on October 27, 2014, 12:56:38 pm
I am going to Alpe d'Huez before half term then Les Arcs after half term. I did investigate going to Serre Chevalier Tuesday to Tuesday before Christmas but I don't have the money for three ski holidays this year. It is possible to do non regular dates off peak season. The overnight couchette trains run every night not just Friday and Saturday.  The train journey home would have been busy though.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on November 04, 2014, 01:14:51 pm
It seems more snow for the high places this week but still not much down to the resort. I like to watch the snow line descend as we approach Christmas.

Of course part of me does not mind there being no snow at Christmas because for the first time in years I will not be going then.  I do realise that lots of snow now sets a good base for the rest of the year.  What I want is a series of moderate snowfalls and partial thaws so a ice base level is formed locking in all the loose stones before the resorts open. Skis and piste bashers can churn them up to the surface. Then a huge snowfalls at the end of January in the Southern alps followed by a sunny cold week to make my holiday wonderful.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on November 04, 2014, 01:20:52 pm
It seems more snow for the high places this week but still not much down to the resort. I like to watch the snow line descend as we approach Christmas.

Of course part of me does not mind there being no snow at Christmas because for the first time in years I will not be going then.  I do realise that lots of snow now sets a good base for the rest of the year.  What I want is a series of moderate snowfalls and partial thaws so a ice base level is formed locking in all the loose stones before the resorts open. Skis and piste bashers can churn them up to the surface. Then a huge snowfalls at the end of January in the Southern alps followed by a sunny cold week to make my holiday wonderful.

You need to have a chat with Slartibartfast.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on November 29, 2014, 10:49:25 am
29 November.  The date the higher French ski resorts want to open. I look around the webcams look at lumiplan and see that is not the case.
The end of November has been too warm for snow cannons so nobody has been able to create unlikely pistes down to the resort.  The snow line seems to be at 2500m.

Tignes and Valdisere were hoping to open to a greater extent today. Tignes tried to make Carline and Bolin but they have not managed it.  Tignes who before the retreat of the glacier used to open every day of the year is still in Autumn mode.  Only sectors Glacier and Grande Motte are open.  Fortunately there is just enough snow on the bottom part of Double M to permit skiing into Val Claret.  Today high wind has stopped Val d'Isere opening  Pissaillas.

Val Thorens has some snow but is also having trouble with the wind today so the drags and carpets in the village are busy but Peclet and Cascades lifts are closed due to wind.

Moving into Italy things look a little better. Cervinia has more open that the French.
   

http://www.skiplan.com/stations-temps-reel/ (http://www.skiplan.com/stations-temps-reel/)

http://www.tignes.net/fr/ski-a-tignes/webcams-290.html (http://www.tignes.net/fr/ski-a-tignes/webcams-290.html)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 13, 2014, 11:37:20 am
Skis all edged & waxed - check
Bag pretty much packed for 20th departure - check
Snow. Hmmmm. Ah well, can't have everything.

Actually doesn't look too bad but will be rather thin, I suspect skis will return needing a lot more TLC than they did on the return from Banff last Feb
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 14, 2014, 06:40:08 pm
Just dug out my GPS routes to try to remember how to get out / in of the infernal French side of GVA.

Ah, yes.  From Ferny-Voltaire, you skulk down a disused-looking service road lined with high fences which give it that Guantanamo look.   Which leads to the dingiest corner of what's a god-awful airport at the best of times. 

Hmm, perhaps this should be in First-World problems.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 17, 2014, 10:33:41 pm
My sister-in-law has brought round the new skis she got my brother for Xmas, as agreed.
I'm to set up the bindings and apply the necessary wax /edge magic.

Only no boot and height/ weight as requested.

I can't set up the bindings without the boot.
I need the sole length, and the physical boot to check the boot is correctly set up over the centre marker on the ski, and to set up the forward pressure adjustment on the rear binding.

And no height / weight to look up the DIN settings.

I'll just do the basic wax / edge and wait for a boot to be delivered.  Ho Hum.



Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on December 21, 2014, 01:31:23 pm
Any (lack of) snow reports?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on December 22, 2014, 12:12:24 pm
MY boss just come back from Le Praz (Courchevel).  Normally a trip from Courchevel is quite easy.  Up to Saulire, ski down to Motteret up to Mont de la Chambre then straight down to the centre of Val Thorens. His route was up Saulire so far the same.  Then down to Meribel via lift.  Up the other side to Motteret then over to Les Menuires and finally ski into the bottom of Val Thorens.

I will be going to  Alpe d'Huez at the end of January.  The resort webcam shows how badly next Saturday's snow will be needed. Christmas is bad but New Year may saved by the first big dump of the Winter in the French alps. Other parts of Europe already have enough snow. eg. Cervinia including Valtournech and Zermatt are fine as is Verbier.

http://alpedhuez.livecam360.net/bergers-hiver
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on December 22, 2014, 12:30:54 pm
We're going to Méribel in mid January  :-\ Chaudanne looks grassy on the webcams at the moment.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 22, 2014, 02:09:42 pm
<Fingers in ears> La La La! Not Listening!

We're off to Val Thorens shortly after xmas  :-\
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on December 27, 2014, 08:03:36 am
It is now snowing in Val d'Isere, with around 15 cm having fallen since 4 am and loads more to come. The resort needed the snow, although the skiing has been surprisingly good considering other resorts have no snow. Just a bit rocky in parts.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7475/16115495621_0591746558.jpg)

This is the view from the chalet this morning. We won't be skiing much today!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 27, 2014, 04:24:40 pm
Just back from Chamopluc, nothing on the bottom slopes but upper slopes were really great. Whole alps is getting a mega dump at the moment, Miss Ham is stuck in Bourg after training it from Turin for her SECOND week..... Apparently nothing is going up any mountain at present.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 28, 2014, 10:38:26 am
12 hrs to drive from GVA to Led Menuires. 8pm to 8 am. Snowstorm based traffic chaos from Alberville all the way up.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 28, 2014, 11:02:02 am
Ouch, was that on a transfer coach? you there now?

Miss Ham was one of those bedded down in a school hall in Bourg, has been bused up to Tignes this morning to discover the chalet still full of people ..... who were trying to to get down from a different chalet  in VC yesterday.

Reading http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30613481 this made me shake my head in wonder:

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British driver Gavin Rigby told BBC News he had taken 11 hours to drive between Val d'Isere and Bourg Saint Maurice ...... felt most sorry for the drivers who had, unlike himself, set out without snow chains.

Those are PRECISELY the people I don't feel sorry for, by all accounts caused many of the problems. Le Dauphine has the best coverage http://www.ledauphine.com/ (sorry, French)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 28, 2014, 11:06:57 am
Le dauphine also have a page of the best snow Photos from today...

http://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2014/12/28/vos-plus-belles-photos-de-neige-du-dimanche-28-decembre

ETA and if you want a smile and can understand the French, nothing to do with snow.... http://www.ledauphine.com/france-monde/2014/12/28/les-bovins-ont-enfin-leur-meetic-pour-trouver-le-bon-taureau
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on December 28, 2014, 01:10:27 pm
Having read those BBC reports I'm glad we had a Sunday transfer from Val d'Isere rather than dealing with the road from Val d'Isere yesterday. There were loads of people at bourg st maurice train station at 10 am this morning when we drove past. Our rep said that people has slept in TGVs that were at bourg st maurice station as they couldn't get to their accommodation. The bit of skiing I did on Saturday in the woods was quite fun, tho cold


Now sat at Grenoble airport. Flight is delayed, but hopefully not by too much.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on December 28, 2014, 01:12:56 pm
12 hrs to drive from GVA to Led Menuires. 8pm to 8 am. Snowstorm based traffic chaos from Alberville all the way up.

Did you get to VT?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 28, 2014, 03:47:20 pm
Yes, we picked up rental cars at GVA and wisely took chains. We were in an aire du chainage at 3am in the dark chaining up. Cops at Moutiers not allowing vehicles up the mountain without them. Some total knobs trying to pass the line of stationary traffic and coming head to head both a bus coming down the way. Several of people were to be seen making a friendly guesture to them.

Hmm many hours to go 100k, in the dark, all night, with much discomfort and rubbish food. Sounds familiar.

Anyways after a couple hours sleep we went out this afternoon. Lots of snow, and low viz.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on December 29, 2014, 01:17:13 pm
Here's which pistes we skiied over Christmas in Val d'Isere: http://goo.gl/fCr5bn  Can you tell where there was and was not snow?!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: PaulF on December 29, 2014, 03:48:38 pm
Ouch, was that on a transfer coach? you there now?

Miss Ham was one of those bedded down in a school hall in Bourg, has been bused up to Tignes this morning to discover the chalet still full of people ..... who were trying to to get down from a different chalet  in VC yesterday.

Reading http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30613481 this made me shake my head in wonder:

Quote
British driver Gavin Rigby told BBC News he had taken 11 hours to drive between Val d'Isere and Bourg Saint Maurice ...... felt most sorry for the drivers who had, unlike himself, set out without snow chains.

Those are PRECISELY the people I don't feel sorry for, by all accounts caused many of the problems. Le Dauphine has the best coverage http://www.ledauphine.com/ (sorry, French)


It was teh following paragraph that made me shake my head:

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"The police should have got people to fit chains this morning after half a metre [20 in] of snow fell last night," he said.

I'm not sure people should have to wait to be told to do something. Surely common sense would dictate that chains might be sensible after that much snow?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 29, 2014, 06:01:17 pm
Here's which pistes we skiied over Christmas in Val d'Isere: http://goo.gl/fCr5bn  Can you tell where there was and was not snow?!

Let me guess, there was lots of snow on Face, but you chose not to ski it. Actually interested to hear how the slopes were that were skiable, as compared to where we were (will do a review inna bit)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on December 29, 2014, 06:06:10 pm
Ouch, was that on a transfer coach? you there now?

Miss Ham was one of those bedded down in a school hall in Bourg, has been bused up to Tignes this morning to discover the chalet still full of people ..... who were trying to to get down from a different chalet  in VC yesterday.

Reading http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30613481 this made me shake my head in wonder:

Quote
British driver Gavin Rigby told BBC News he had taken 11 hours to drive between Val d'Isere and Bourg Saint Maurice ...... felt most sorry for the drivers who had, unlike himself, set out without snow chains.

Those are PRECISELY the people I don't feel sorry for, by all accounts caused many of the problems. Le Dauphine has the best coverage http://www.ledauphine.com/ (sorry, French)


It was teh following paragraph that made me shake my head:

Quote
"The police should have got people to fit chains this morning after half a metre [20 in] of snow fell last night," he said.

I'm not sure people should have to wait to be told to do something. Surely common sense would dictate that chains might be sensible after that much snow?
Something doesn't quite fit there. If there really had been half a metre of snow, I don't quite seee how anyone could have got anywhere without chains. Either that or snow tyres. I suppose.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 29, 2014, 06:14:34 pm

Something doesn't quite fit there. If there really had been half a metre of snow, I don't quite seee how anyone could have got anywhere without chains. Either that or snow tyres. I suppose.

1) assume exaggeration. Forecast suggested a 30 cm fall over the 24 hours, not insubstantial
2) assume ignorance from the person reported. Quoted comments seems to substantiate this
3) assume that the problem of no chains included those with snow tyres, who could not conceive there might be times that more might be a need for chains.

All fits.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on December 29, 2014, 06:45:37 pm
Let me guess, there was lots of snow on Face, but you chose not to ski it. Actually interested to hear how the slopes were that were skiable, as compared to where we were (will do a review inna bit)

The top half of Face was closed. The bottom section was open with access via the Bellevarde Express chair. Despite it being closed people were skiing the top half, but there was a distinct lack of snow on the piste. Why bother skiing that piste when there was plenty of good snow on other pistes?

Most of the pistes that were open were in pretty good conditions despite the lack of snow. The snow canons were doing their magic whenever possible. The best conditions were found on Grande Motte and Val d'Isere glacier, both of which had some lovely snow. The  area around the Glacier Express had some very good snow.

The bottom part of the OK piste back into La Daille from was bloody awful as it was very very icy. Raye was a much better way back to La Daille. The blue Edelweiss was the worst piste, with lots and lots of rocks poking through the snow and it required picking a careful line to get down without trashing the ski. I only skied it once. I am guessing Edelweiss was kept open because the piste links Tignes 2100 and Tignes Le Lac with the Marmottes chair, although it should have been closed in my opinion.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on December 29, 2014, 11:32:40 pm
La Sache not open?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on December 30, 2014, 10:07:43 am
La Sache not open?

I'm not 100 % sure if it was closed, but as there as no snow around L'Aiguille Percee it seemed very unlikely to have been opened. Moreover, there wasn't any snow in Tignes Les Brevieres at 1,550 m.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Karla on December 30, 2014, 10:15:13 am
I'm now in Zurich for the next six weeks, so it would seem sensible to supplement my previous skiing experience of one day at Cairngorm.  What does the panel recommend?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 30, 2014, 10:35:06 am
Hmmm ... Engleberg is easy to get to, http://www.engelberg.ch/ as are many resorts by Swiss train.

Here's a page of resorts suitable for day trips http://www.inyourpocket.com/Switzerland/Zurich/Daytrips-and-Leisure/Ski-resorts

I haven't skied any of those, I have skied in Saas Fee and Fiesch both of which I enjoyed. Some Austrian resorts are easy to get to, but as a  novice you may have to cope with a T-bar, so I wouldn't recommend.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on December 30, 2014, 11:45:56 am
The best conditions were found on Grande Motte and Val d'Isere glacier, both of which had some lovely snow. The  area around the Glacier Express had some very good snow.



The pissaillas glacier is the place to be after snowfall. the T-Bar takes a time to sort out, and it opens up a lot of good accessible off-piste, which gets skied out in less than an hour. It's then possible to go into the pays Desert if you know what you are doing. The Glacier Restaurant is also good value.

 I think there's too much temptation to cruise around in the Espace Killy, you can spend a lot of time dodging the intermediates on the blues between Val and Tignes. Fornet has a lot going for it.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Tewdric on December 31, 2014, 12:11:59 am
I love the Fornet end - the up and over being my favourite lift ever.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on December 31, 2014, 09:55:41 am
Fornet is not very board friendly, it needs a lot of schussing to get around effectively, and there's the Signal poma, the Col poma and the Montet T bar. It does mean that you only see really good boarders.
Many days seem to have ended with a few runs down Glacier and Cascade, then over to Solaise, up Cugnai, and down Mattis.
We tend to go very late, so Face is a bit slushy for a last run.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 01, 2015, 01:57:35 am
One of my finest days on skis ever was at Le Fornet.

Up to the top, walk for half an hour to Point Pers, then ski very carefully along the ridge to the point of no return, then drop off to the right heading for the refuge almost exactly 1000m below us. April 4th 1990. (A year to the day that I had bust my knee in Verbier.) Glorious clear blue skies. There were four of us and I was the last one down. It took the preceding three 10 minutes each to get far enough down the chute so that they could clear it before the next person could set off safely. The start was an extended pitch at over 45 degrees. I haven't felt that alive very often.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 03, 2015, 04:27:38 pm
Yes, the up-and-over lift is quite breathtaking the first time you do it!

On a chairlift, you normally face towards the mountain, and you see the ground below you.
Once you go up-and-over, you are now facing out into fresh air.
The mountain-side drops away steeply below you, and the ground and pylons are totally out-of-sight.
It's a bit of a roller-coaster sensation, like you are flying.

We had a big family day out on new Year's day; 8 of us went down one of the nice off-piste itinerary routes between Val Thorens and Les Menuires, called Vallon De Lou.   We approached it from Pointe de la Masse because were based in Reberty ( It can also be entered from the Cime Caron in VT ).  It was still quite fresh and not very tracked-out, which made it fun.   There was quite a lot of snow!

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8645/15999162848_957a2f433e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qnMTHj)
Vallon du Lou (https://flic.kr/p/qnMTHj) by Ron Lowe (https://www.flickr.com/people/62966413@N04/), on Flickr

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/663639861

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 04, 2015, 07:02:27 pm
Ooops, I appear to have just had a March based Alp-d'Huez-finger-click-interface incident  ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on January 04, 2015, 09:34:53 pm
One of my finest days on skis ever was at Le Fornet.

Up to the top, walk for half an hour to Point Pers, then ski very carefully along the ridge to the point of no return, then drop off to the right heading for the refuge almost exactly 1000m below us. April 4th 1990. (A year to the day that I had bust my knee in Verbier.) Glorious clear blue skies. There were four of us and I was the last one down. It took the preceding three 10 minutes each to get far enough down the chute so that they could clear it before the next person could set off safely. The start was an extended pitch at over 45 degrees. I haven't felt that alive very often.

I've got video of that pitch from 1.24, not my party I hasten to add. We'd come over the Col Pers and were skinning up to Gros Caval. There was a bit of a slide from a boarder above us, which added a certain amount of interest. That was in late April 2004. I was never much of an off-piste skier, but skinning suits me as an exercise, and I've always been good at kick-turns.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiWk6IZqwDk
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ashaman42 on January 15, 2015, 08:33:27 pm
Right. I'm going snowboarding in three and a half weeks and I've just pulled my board out of storage (under the bed in it's bag). It hasn't been used in maybe seven years. As far as I can see it was lightly waxed but I obviously neglected the edges as they are rather rusty  :facepalm:

I'll have a look at the weekend with a file and see how deep the rust is but how can I tell if it's dried out internally/delaminating?

I've spent a couple minutes clipped in the bindings rocking up onto each end in the hallway and if isn't making any odd noises at least.

I don't know whether to take it away and risk having to hire a board out there or getting a refund on my board carriage and prebooking a rental package  ??? I mean it is an old fairly budget board but it's also sentimental as I bought it on my gap year in Canada.

I think carriage is £35 and I can get board for £65 or board and boots for £90. Can't see any reason my boots won't be fine at least. I don't know if the board rental includes a prebooking discount.

Thanks in advance for any advice/recommendations.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 15, 2015, 09:01:57 pm
Don't have at the edges with a hand-file.
You won't be able to hold a consistent angle without a proper tool.

A wee bit of rust is not really a problem.   That will usually clean up with a gummy stone ( like an ink-erasor rubber ).

There's no such thing as 'drying out', and de-laminating is normally only caused by riding the board repeatedly when it's had a core-shot through the base PTEX.   What happens is show gets into the gouge, then melts in indoor overnight storage and weeps in between the PTEX and the core.   The next day, it gets taken out and re-freezes, pulling the PTEX further away from the core.  It will not have de-laminated sitting under your bed for 7 years.

If you are not tooled-up for ski / board fettling, then the best advice I have is to take it to your LSS (Local Ski Shop ) and have them give it a service.
They can also advise whether it remains a useful snowsport tool or should be retired as a garden bench.



Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ashaman42 on January 15, 2015, 09:08:25 pm
I've got a snowboard tuning kit including edge doofer. I'll see if I can find somewhere nearby to take a look. Though without a car getting there might be a pickle.

I might take a couple pictures at the weekend if you'd be willing to cast your eye over them Feanor?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 15, 2015, 09:24:50 pm
The following advice is what I'd give for skis:

The edge-doofer you will have will be for the side edges.
You can have at them pretty much as you like, and that will clean up the rust.
I'd use a medium-grade file and then a diamond stone to polish the edge.

But base edges are a whole other thing.
Basically, you can't really remove metal from the base edge because that brings it below the level of the base.
You really need to stone-grind the base and edges together, and then re-set the base edge angles.
This is beyond home fettling.

But at the end of the day, a board is a powder tool, in which case the edges become irrelevant.
In powder, the edges are not set.
The edges only get set when you are on firm snow -> ice.
And then, they only get partially set, because the flexible boots / bindings on a board mean you cannot set them anything like as hard as you can on skis.

I think your board will be fine with a wee bit of TLC.


Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ashaman42 on January 15, 2015, 09:59:54 pm
I will bear that all in mind.

I learnt to board at Kananaskis near Calgary, ski lifts all on the wrong side of the mountain  :facepalm:. I had to learn to set an edge as the place was damn near pure ice half the time.

I am looking forward to getting some actual powder time. Going to Livigno, heard it's good there :D  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 15, 2015, 10:25:02 pm
I will bear that all in mind.

I learnt to board at Kananaskis near Calgary, ski lifts all on the wrong side of the mountain  :facepalm:. I had to learn to set an edge as the place was damn near pure ice half the time.

I am looking forward to getting some actual powder time. Going to Livigno, heard it's good there :D  :thumbsup:
Beer's cheap there, if nothing else. Lots of duty free shops all along the high street.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on January 19, 2015, 04:23:27 pm
First day at Yad Moss for me this year. Pennine skiing is a sort of 1970s time warp, and the drive home can be scenic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1pXcMT4aiQ
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 20, 2015, 01:58:26 am
This season is terrible so far. The local mountains have had virtually no snow and I can see big bare spots on the main runs now.
Whistler is ok if you get there on a fresh snow day, but both they and Mt Baker are struggling for snow. I haven't had a single day and usually I'm looking at 10+ days at this time of year.

Meanwhile, I found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKP7jQknGjs
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 20, 2015, 07:48:25 am
How one thing (especially video thing) does lead to another...

http://www.redbull.com/en/snow/stories/1331606188773/video-retro-rules-at-the-red-bull-1976

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zrB1Opfavw#t=10
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 22, 2015, 07:28:01 am

Anyone shopping for a new helmet? This one has to be better


http://www.harrods.com/product/lifestyle-lady-fur-trim-ski-helmet/kask/000000000004567037


And this keeps you warmer

http://www.harrods.com/product/may-t-ski-jacket/bogner/000000000004273369

Holy vomitworthy extravagance, Batman.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on January 23, 2015, 05:40:20 pm
I am going next Friday.  At the moment Alpe d'Huez and other French resorts appear to be 2/3 open. With the awkward black and some reds remaining closed. If it was just Alpe d'Huez, I would just shrug and assume they were conserving pistes for half term. Still some more snow at the end of next week might be enough to open some more runs and lifts.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 23, 2015, 06:50:44 pm
Alpe d'Huez

<shudder>

It must be over 20 years since I were there, but it didn't end well.
Sitting in a mountain restaurant one day at lunchtime, I laughed at how some ski tracks appeared to go over the towering cliffs above.
Next day, I managed to ski over the same cliff myself.

Dislocated hip.
Hellichopper off the mountain to Grenoble.
Week in Grenoble hospital ( wine with dinner).
Air Ambulance back to Aberdeen.
6 weeks in traction in ARI (no wine with dinner).

My companions came to visit in the Grenoble hospital ( a difficult-to-arrange trip from resort ); and were set the task of finding all my kit that had been stripped off me before they relocated my hip.   They were to be found wandering about the corridors of Grenoble hospital chanting "Ou est les vetements de monsueir Lowe?"

Heigh-ho.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on January 25, 2015, 11:26:58 am
My worry now,  Will I be able to get to the resort?  Grenoble airport, should be OK. The transfer should be OK as far as Bourg d'Oisans where every follower of the tdf knows a left turn is made and the cyclists climb and climb and climb.  The current snow forescast is heavy snow Thursday, heavy snow Friday, heavy snow Saturday. Possible as much as a metre of new fresh powder. Great for the pistes but a problem for the well known road.

I have been up that road when it started to snow. About two thirds up we pulled over and put our snow chains on the Car.  Other cars were sliding all over the place at the famous hairpins. I believe my local, therefore experienced and adapted,  transfer bus will be able to cope with quite severe weather but there will be a load of brits and other low lying northern europeans who believe the toughest part of the journey would be finding their way around Paris.   Some of them think their Chelsea Tractor is secure, but surely not with general purpose off road and town tyres. A heavy car like that needs Winter tyres and chains.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 25, 2015, 12:43:48 pm
Given that there was snow forecast for most of last week and we saw barely a flake I wouldn't worry about it until it actually happens!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 25, 2015, 08:50:10 pm
Got back from 3 Vallées last night. Just as well it snowed on the day we arrived, it was getting quite icy towards the end. Still, we managed to find some good skiing and plenty of good noms   :thumbsup:

Pics here:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7300/16360887431_b5181a4d51_z.jpg) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/sets/72157650062061128/)

GPS tracks:

http://ridewithgps.com/trips/4017404
http://ridewithgps.com/trips/4017403
http://ridewithgps.com/trips/4017402
http://ridewithgps.com/trips/4017401
http://ridewithgps.com/trips/4017399
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on February 01, 2015, 05:42:29 am
Still no snow :(
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ashaman42 on February 03, 2015, 11:19:00 pm
Whoops. Just started finding stuff to pack and it turns out the foam on my goggles has perished. I work till I leave  :facepalm:

I could order something online but then I risk something that doesn't fit my face. I'm hoping parents have a spare set (I expect so, my stepdad took 14 hats for a 7 day trip a couple years ago, he loves kit and accessories).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on February 08, 2015, 06:08:22 pm
Back yesterday from Alpe d'Huez.

Saturday Day 1. Arrive, it starts to snow moderately. Decide to explore town rather than ski a half day.

Sunday Day 2. It is still snowing. Only the lower lifts are running. The first piste indicated my skis need waxing. Around 11pm I am feeling rotten my brother David is sick so Martin and I call it a day unless conditions improve which they did not. Explored the lower town with a bike clothing shop (selling Rapha). Roads are looking white and difficult or impossible to drive on. In the evening I discover I am well off. In the Pyrenees they got two metres in the resort and four metres high up. That is more than the height of most skis lifts. I assume nobody will be would be skiing there even if they managed to get in.

Monday Day 3. Great conditions. I discover that walking from the centre of town to the piste in my newish ski boots was not a good thing. After the first lift I announce can not continue and returned to town looking for blister plasters. I am parted from my brothers, so I ski around in the green run bowl of Alpe d'Huez. In the afternoon back with my brothers I arrive at the top of Marmotte 2. Look at the information sign "Sarrenne open piste prepared flat." I take the lift and Sarrenne  is flat as decribed not the immense mogul field I remember.   

Tuesday Day 4. Tunnel is open now. The start of Tunnel you must traverse across the piste before turning onto it.  This is a must ski single icy narrow track. No control just do it. The fencing on the low side indicated some people did not manage it.  A drop onto the piste then steep deep snow, brilliant.

Wednesday Day 5. Ski over to Oz lose my brother David in the mist. In the afternoon reunited we discover piste La Balme is now open. This marked Black rather than being a fiendish Red ten years ago.  Another unbashed piste just opened. When I first encountered this Red for the first time I could not ski it. The Black has far more challenging conditions to enjoy but I have developed and skied it without difficulty although some others were struggling. People who know it lose height all the time. The less wary skiers traverse across the curve and find themselves on top of a giant steep wall. I remembered it and turned it into an unbashed red and watched some others above me turn it into the darkest of Black runs. This is really is a black as they have reclassified it.

Thursday Day 6. Ski over to Auris a huge mistake. The valley mist is getting worse.  Really opaque, I can not see from post to post so some unscheduled off piste. Thankfully I am on safe blue. I can hear the nearby lift but I cannot see it. I get close enough to avoid one wrong lift but take another wrong one and ski back to the same place. This time I get it right and escape back to the Alpe. I give up the Afternoon lunchtime when the building opposite my apartment disappeared. I read my book. My brothers told me this was mistake it is possible  to get above the problem.

Friday Last day. The mist is still with us so skiing down to Auris, Villard, Oz or Vaujany are out of the question. The whole domaine of skiers are compressed into Alpe d'Huez with depressing queues at all the lifts. After lunch we get onto the Vaujany Alpette-Rousses cable car which was very quiet then skied down to the Pic Blanc cable car.  It is still lunch time so six of us got into cabin and waited half an hour for enough people to arrive. Most cable cars are very expensive to run so they wait for a quota or some arbitrary time like 30 minutes before they will run. Off we go then just before the arrive the cabin shudders to a halt swinging violently. I assume it was too windy to enter the station. So I hang around at 3300m for another twenty minutes. Eventually we reach the top and decide Tunnel not Sarrenne. The long Sarrenne piste would take us down into the fog. Through the tunnel the exit has soft snow on the traverse so that was very easy.  Drop onto the piste. I was expecting huge moguls but got mostly flat grippy snow. So the steepness did not matter another emasculated black. I assume they flattened it to preserve it. So I have skied Sarrene and Tunnel two proper blacks with their teeth pulled. Lunchtime is over and the queues are back. At three O'clock I have had enough of queuing at the bottom of the high lift series and leave my brothers and had a great time by myself using the lightly used single drags on the Signal hill. I discover the biggest moguls on, the unbashed since the beginning of the week, Signal Red. So I skied every Signal and Petit Prince piste and finished happy.

Overall a good trip.  Despite the big snow fall the previous weekend there was still not enough snow to open everything or too high an avalanche risk in others. I skied in snow conditions that are very rare in the big resorts at the beginning of the week. Deep fresh snow, new tracks on piste. I know I have skied down Creux blue Tignes in knee high powder. Through waist high powder in Les Arcs at the bottom of Refuge black.(Second pass all gone). Sunday was one of my best ski days.  The end of the week was spoiled by queues. I have grown accustomed to small queues since the ancient three seaters and single drags have been replaced by various magnificent machine with huge uplift. Marmottes 1 and the  older DMC (I know its slow like DMC everywhere) are bigish lifts that could not cope. French half term starts this week so it will be worse I should stop moaning.                       
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on February 17, 2015, 09:08:27 pm
I have decided to look after my own skis and not rely on the shops.
Please feel free to contradict my opinions.

1. In resort if I just hand over my skis to a small random resort shop to wax my skis over night.  They will slap the cheapest new wax on top the old dirty wax without thorough cleaning.  I read someone saying that is what they do.  It seems to me that is all they can do. A proper job takes too long when they have a lot of skis to do.  The big shops/chains/resort just hand the skis over to their giant ski processing machine, great for when hundreds of hire skis but not for my personal ski.

2. If I hand it over to my local shops for a 'full service' (~£35) they are too happy to grind to remove problems on the base. This shortens the life of the skis and the ability of the base to take up wax because there is less of it. This was certainly the case with the shop I used to use.

3. I will learn a rewarding skill my doing it myself. I might be capable doing a better job myself. For example when I build a bike I use thread locks and other assembly compounds that the LBS only does on command.

4. After the initial outlay on tools I will start to save money. It seems to me this obvious. A youtube waxing tutorial suggested that I might get as many as ten pairs of skis waxed from a single 180g bar of wax. Looking at a Fischer demonstration the skilled race tuner hot scraped three times to clean the ski. I only expect to hot scrape once so I might expect to do my skis four or five times from a 12 euro bar of wax. It costs me 10/15 euro to get a shop to do it. 

So far I have just bought a Swix wax kit (www.xspo.de/artikel/swix-wax-set-alpin-8-teilig.html) and a ski vice (www.xspo.de/artikel/swix-t149-50-world-cup-skihalterung.html) (a long time to get my money back). My ski does not need edges done for my late March trip (maybe in the first hour of the morning). I will look at edge maintenance and base repair in the Autumn for next season.

For my mid-March trip I plan to use my Swix CH8 red hydrocarbon wax from the kit for -4 to +1. Or should I ignore it, use it as a cleaning wax and use a universal wax?

What wax do you use?
Swix and Toko seem a little pricey to me. Is is there any problem using the lesser known makes? I am only a recreational skiing and have no interest in the high fluro waxes.

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 17, 2015, 09:58:33 pm
congratulations, you will enjoy it. The good thing is that once you have made the outlay, you no longer have to splash out so each time you use it, it feels like you are saving. And, as you say, you look after them much better.

I use Dominator wax as sold by Jon http://www.jonsskituning.co.uk/component/page,shop.browse/category_id,10/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,1/ - the universal is excellent for general fun use, you will find that you schuss that little bit more than others, it's quite fun. I tend to use that and the Toko universal, of the two the Dominator seems better in most conditions.

I also use the purple base renew to store them. Then come the new season a quick hot scrape does the job before slapping on the universal.

Oddly, your kit doesn't seem to have a brush, something you will need.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 17, 2015, 10:03:24 pm
Forgot to add, the one thing you will have to get used to is not putting too much wax on, that way not only it take longer to scrape off but you use more than you have to. Having a proper iron helps, set the temp, keep it moving, add more if you have to.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on February 18, 2015, 10:21:50 am
I use Dominator wax as sold by Jon
Yes I looked at the "Piste Office" website.
Quote
Oddly, your kit doesn't seem to have a brush, something you will need.
The kit came with an "all purpose" nylon brush.  I added a bronze brush with the vice order. I should get a horse hair brush to complete the set. The annoying thing was the 8 piece kit counted the box as one of the pieces. The base cleaner may not have much use.  The majority of videos I watched suggested the base cleaner should only be used in exceptional circumstances. Jon wrote that it's good for cleaning your tools do not use it on your skis.
Quote
Having a proper iron helps, set the temp, keep it moving, add more if you have to.
Yes the kit came with a ski wax iron, Swix T76. Bottom of the range but probably good enough. I worked out a proper iron should make things a lot easier.  Adjustable to ski was melting points mine are between 120oC and 135oC. I read Ski bases melt around 150oC but googling UHDPE I found 135oC. Clothes ironing is done at temperatures from 130-230oC so I thought it best to avoid them.
   
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 18, 2015, 10:36:36 am
I wouldn't worry too much about additional brushes, the nylon one will do a good enough job. I confess I've been using domestic irons for years, and just acquired a Toko..... I really ought to have got one earlier, they are soooo much better. I still use a home fettled ski vice (I'll post a pic later)

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on February 23, 2015, 09:25:04 pm
My ski vice arrived from XSpo.de today and some Vola base prep wax from the Piste Office. I had hoped to defer the edge maintenance until Autumn but on Saturday I checked my edges.  Oh dear. I will get another delivery, files and guides, at the end of the week. The only major thing missing from my 'work shop' is a specialist waxing table.  Too expensive for me to justify.




   
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 25, 2015, 12:57:48 pm
I make this about 70m

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LugoF8hqiek
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on March 07, 2015, 04:55:20 pm
Today I did my first step of ski maintenance.  I set the work mate up outside the kitchen and attached my ski vice to it. Its a bit short so the middle vice could not grip the ideal spot on the binding plate. I had made the decision not to use rough files and just use my general purpose stone and diamond files. This way I am less likely to take too much off the edge. So I started by rubbing the ugliest bit with the stone. Then I put my 200 grit diamond stone in the 1 degree guide poured water onto it and ran it along the base edge a few times. I then turned the ski fitted the 200 grit stone in the 87 degree guide and ran along the side edge. I repeated base edge, side edge, base edge, side edge with 400, 600 and 1000 grit diamond files in turn. I cleaned the dirty water off the edge with some 'Fiberlene' paper. I was not impressed. I could clearly see the deeper damage on the edge.  I looked across at the opposite edge and realised how much better the newly cleaned/polished/sharpened edge really was. 

I did the other edge then the other ski.  I decide I have done a good job.  The deeper flaws will lessen then disappear in subsequent services. I am not preparing for a race so a few trivial nicks are not an issue. The corrosion marks are all gone,  the dark metal and the kisses of the rust god.   

I wanted to wax the skis but I needed to go to the bike shop to collect a bike. I will wax the skis tomorrow now.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 07, 2015, 05:16:34 pm
A little tip which, while useful all the time is more useful when you do your own edges. If your skis are ambidextrous (as most are), mark the inside edge and always use them on the same feet. This has two benefits: First, you can lavish more care on one edge than the other. Second, if you shag the edge, you can swap them over and have a good edge to ski on until you get home.

(and, 87o? What skis are they?)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on March 07, 2015, 05:24:18 pm
A little tip which, while useful all the time is more useful when you do your own edges. If your skis are ambidextrous (as most are), mark the inside edge and always use them on the same feet. This has two benefits: First, you can lavish more care on one edge than the other. Second, if you shag the edge, you can swap them over and have a good edge to ski on until you get home.

(and, 87o? What skis are they?)

I lavish care on both edges equally as regards sharpness, and as I also mark the skiis as L/R I then swapping round gives me virtually unused edges to use on the about to appear 'foxes glacier mint' (sheet ice) that the 20C Alp temp swing will bring (-7 to +13C !!).

Glad I'm a ski bum and pick which days and times I ski...
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 07, 2015, 05:26:43 pm
Sharpness, yes, but CtF has just got his kit, so is likely to be trying to polish out all the blemishes ;)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on March 07, 2015, 10:28:41 pm
(and, 87o? What skis are they?)

Fischer Progressor 8+. All Fischer alpine 'race' and 'high performance' skis are 1,3 from the factory according to the Piste Office. The file guides fitted.

Ski History

The first three ski trips I hired skis. I skied with my three brothers. My eldest brother he supplied his old skis to my brothers. Martin, who was usefully living in Geneva at this time, had his new Volkl race skis. Gareth had his Migros supermarket Equipe GS Race skis that Martin had bought when he arrived in Switzerland. David had a pair of Head 100 skis which cost less than that in Scotland when Martin had a less glamorous posting. I loved La Plagne (Feb 1995), skiing is brilliant. I hated Avoriaz (Feb 1996) hardly any snow it rained the first 4 days and snowed later in the week leaving one sunny day. I needed to be persuaded to come to Val D'Isere(Mar 1997). If it had been like Avoriaz I would have given up skiing but it was not. At Val D'Isere David had been bought Rossignol RS3 skis. A horrible ski with extruded base which was the ubiquitous entry level hire ski the following year. I was not given the head skis. Later that year I am fed up at work. Lets go skiing on Saturday I ask David. We are given time off work for the week before Christmas we arrive at Les Arcs on Saturday morning.

My First Skis. Martin has moved and I am now looking after the skis. I allocate myself David's old Head 100 skis pack them together with his Rossignol's. Sunday crowds at every lift with masses of people with Bourg St Maurice ski club jackets which is most of the town.  Monday it is empty, not much is open. The Plagnettes lift had a red and blue which did not correspond to any route on the Piste  map called Teppes. Each morning the Transarc lift would bring Arc 1800 immigrants to swamp us with around 20 foreigners to our 6 native Arc 2000 folk. I mean there was someone in front of me when I arrived at the lift. The operators were sensitive to my distress and started to open more lifts. On Wednesday Dou l'Homme lift opened with a sign saying TPH Aguille Rouge Thursday afternoon. Dou l'Homme gave us a wonderful version of Arandelieres red piste. Around the cable car drop off the road on to the piste proper. I say proper but  this route had some interesting features not usually present. At the bottom it was routed along a steep camber (edge of Dou l'homme black ?). Best of all piste bashers had created themselves a level road across the piste to get to the higher levels. So this distinctly intermediate skier zipped down from the start come cross the road at speed. I learned to jump. After three or four runs picking my skis up further down the piste I learned to land. This is the best ever piste.  There were other interesting pistes. Piste Lac which has been widened had a huge block of square block of blue ice in the middle of the old narrow section. Valle d'Arc had its stream still running through it. More jumping, lets not do that one again. On the last Saturday the resort is properly open. The block of ice has been removed from Lac. Arandelieres is smooth and level. Valle d'Arc has it stream covered and hidden. The missing pistes appear, are properly marked and go the correct way but something special has been lost.  I was not going to cook in the evenings so we found a restaurant. The owner of Sainte Jacques had not had his menu ready. He listed a few things until I recognised something so I had steak and chips every night. A better price than normal.  This is the best ski holiday ever. Nothing will ever compare. I am now a ski addict and evangelist.

Despite the brilliant first outing of the Head 100 the proper holiday to Courchevel (feb 98). Gareth did not come so I upgraded myself to the super market Equipe Active skis. I never liked these skis. They were insufficiently stiff. I decided I needed more lessons. One day on the lift the ski instructor asked me if I always used good skis. I think he saw Equipe and decided they were high end similarly named Salomon race skis. On the other hand these full length skis were faster than the other shorter skis in the class.       

Sometime before 2002 I replaced my brothers Rossignols which were worn out with Fischer Ice 102 Booster. He turned them left, he turned them right and never turned again. I was on a ski bus between La Fornet and Val d'Isere and noticed that I was the odd one out using the old style long skis. So in the end of season sales I bought myself Dynastar Speed Carve 63. This ski had on piste leisure geometry but otherwise was one of their race skis. I liked this ski. If tried to go fast it would. On the other hand it was not the best ski to cruise along with. I would probably still have this ski if it did not sustain an annoying piece of base damage. Barry ski lodge fixed it. Two days skiing the repair had fallen out. I tried getting it fixed in Tignes Lac Ski Set. Their repair did not last the day. So at the end of my 30th ski holiday to Tignes (Mar 2011) I left it in the rack outside the ESF.

I was impressed by the longevity of my brothers Fischer 102s so I turned up at Flaine with my current Fischer Progressor 8+. As always I buy my skis in the previous seasons sales.  I think Progressor is an unfortunate name it suggests this not a proper high performance ski. The higher numbered Progressors share many feature with the race skis. I do not want a race ski. They are very unhappy off icy piste. At the same time although I am happy on the blackest unbashed pistes. Perhaps I would be better off with an all mountain ski but part of me still wants a Race GS ski despite the chances of me getting the best out of is minimal.

   






















Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on March 08, 2015, 07:47:00 pm
So today I did part two of my first maintenance.  I applied Vola universal wax and immediately scraped it off and brushed the base. Then I noticed I forgot to use the masking tape I bought this morning Doh!  I used the tape over the binding area. I applied the Swix CH8 from my wax starter kit this time I did not scrape. I did the same with the second ski except this time the masking tape went on first. I waited a for over an hour and a half, unfortunately I started late because it was raining earlier so I could not wait longer before the sun would go down. I scraped and brushed the skis.  I decided they looked better than they had when the shop in Alpe d'Huez waxed them last month.  A successful job.

The globules of wax on the unprotected binding can be scratched off with my finger nail when I am standing in the cable car. Always nice to have something to do then :-)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on March 08, 2015, 08:12:50 pm
Oh, I've only just noticed this discussion.
Mind if I butt in? No? Thanks!

1) Servicing your own skis is a Good Thing for many reasons.  You get to select your waxes, edge angles etc etc.

2) Race skis are generally not great as all-mountain skis, just like a race car is not great as a family car.

SL and GS skis are set up for exactly that, in terms of their edge angles, flexibility, length and turn radius.  They are not really wide enough for off-piste by today's standard, and the edges then become irrelevant: you don't set edges in powder.   Also, GS skis are a bloody handful on moguls.

3) Regarding edge angles.  Side edges generally default to 89 on general purpose skis, which combined with a base edge angle of 1 degree gives a 90 degree angle on the metal, and is reasonable.   If you are skiing icy conditions, then sharpening up to 88 or 87 is fine, and will give a keener line in ice, but they will become dull more quickly, and you will need to hone them more regularly.   Base edge angles in general should be left alone.   You can only increase it from the default 1 degree, it's not possible to reduce it unless you stone-grind the entire base down which is beyond any home fettling.  The base edge angle defines how much you need to roll onto the edge before it begins to set. If you want the edge to set early like in an SL ski, you may wish to have it set to 0.5 for example. That will start turning quicker, but will make it twitchy and unstable at high speed in a straight line, as the edges will catch all the time.  For a faster line downhill, a lazier angle will make the ski more stable and less twitchy at the expense of a slower response to a turn , as you need to roll it more to set the edge.

4) Waxes: I used Holmenkol when we were racing, but for general family use I tend to go with cheapish universal like Data unless I'm going somewhere bloody cold.  Cold snow wax ( like drymat wax ) is bloody hard, and damn near impossible to scrape.

<ETA> 5) Wax solvents: Did you ask what these were for a few posts back?  They are not used for routine waxing.  They are used to remove all traces of wax prior to a PTEX base repair, with a hot PTEX repair gun.  Traces of wax causes the repair not to 'take' properly to the original PTEX, and it will strip out quickly.

I've never used masking tape. Don't use so much wax that it's pouring over the edges.  A wee dribble is fine, and can be knocked off once it's hardened.
The Perspex scraper will usually have a wee notch out of one corner, this is to scrape residual wax off of the edges.

Don't worry too much about getting the brushing 100%, you never will.
You will find that it will take one or two runs for the snow to finish that job off.
That's why we do practice runs on practice skis, but still take the race skis for one or two runs before the race; they do speed up.


Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 08, 2015, 09:08:06 pm
Wot Feanor said about the edges, I was rather surprised when you said 87. My Salomon Streetracers are sharpened at 89 but they go on rails over ice, and manage nicely in most terrain. In contrast, I used to have Crossmax which is far more of a race ski - well, ski cross obv - which was twitchy as hell on the schuss, I've enjoyed life much more since I swapped.

Also,  how have you managed to get wax on the binding? Seems a little odd, even if you have put too much on (as is inevitably the case when you start waxing). You are putting the wax on with the ski base horizontal?  All that's needed in the end is to run down the edges with the notch in the scraper to clear it off, if you can be bothered.

If you want an alternative ski, I'm thinking of selling my Storm Detonate 168 (http://www.stormskis.com/shop/all-terrain/detonate.html) (with bindings) bought in 2012, used once, nice, light, easy skis but I preferred my Salmons, looking for £150 ono
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on March 09, 2015, 10:01:14 pm
I just remembered, I posted a photo of me doing some mid-holliberries fettling a couple of years ago.

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=55316.msg1393286#msg1393286

The pic of me waxing the ski gives an indication of the quantity of wax required.  A steady dribble, applied along the length of the ski in a wave, as per the photo.   Much more will just be wasted: remember, it's going to be scraped off shortly.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 09, 2015, 10:16:01 pm
I just remembered, I posted a photo of me doing some mid-holliberries fettling a couple of years ago.

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=55316.msg1393286#msg1393286

The pic of me waxing the ski gives an indication of the quantity of wax required.  A steady dribble, applied along the length of the ski in a wave, as per the photo.   Much Any more will just be wasted: remember, it's going to be scraped off shortly.

I've got it down to a fine art with a blobby squiggle rather than a constant dribble. Basically, the less wax you can use and still have a full width covering, the better.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on March 10, 2015, 04:01:24 am
Local mountains closed 2 weeks ago, although they did have a futile attempt at turning on the snow guns last week.
Mt Baker closed today. This is the mountain that gets the most snow in North America. Whistler still has snow in the alpine, but I'm not paying $100/day for that.
Looks like this will be the first season since I moved here that I didn't go snowboarding :(. At least it totally justifies our early decision to go to Hawaii instead of skiing/snowboarding at Mt. Bachelor. (Hawaii was awesome, Mt Bachelor had no snow).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 10, 2015, 06:56:16 am
Alp d'huez beckons on Saturday, small fresh fall due over the weekend to freshen it up, this will be my first ever trip outside school holidays.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on March 12, 2015, 01:45:08 pm
I was at Alpe d'Huez the beginning of February. On Saturday I will step of the train in Bourg St Maurice and step on the Arc en Ciel funicular to Arc 1600 then Navette to Arc 2000. Snow forecast is indicating  Snow/Rain for the first half of the week.
 
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on March 15, 2015, 08:45:57 pm
Just back from my annual trip to Val d'Isere. Seemed to be a general agreement in resort that last week was the best conditions so far this season; they were certainly the best conditions I have ever experienced. Clear blue skies pretty much all week (a few clouds here and there) and the snow was great. It was a bit warm at the start of the week but cooled down towards the end. Left a grey resort this morning though. My panda eyes are pretty good this year  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 22, 2015, 07:35:33 am
Whereas the week later.....

Just back from Alpe d'Huez, a very interesting week in many ways, where I learned a lot.

1) French go skiing in big numbers at the weekend, taking kids out of school Friday and Monday. When combined with winds closing anything above mid-station lifts, this makes for a VERY crowded lower slopes.

2) Skiing out of school holidays in the cheapest week in March is not as quiet as you think it might be or should be, in fact is busier than some xmas weeks we have had.

Things I knew already and had reinforced

3) Sunshine really helps enjoy the week no matter what the slopes are like

4) Sunshine really can melt the slopes so that they are really shit by 14:00, especially in a south facing slope resort like Alpe d'Huez

5) Careful planning to the less exposed slopes is far more rewarding than chasing the top-of-the-mountain or the longest-lack-run-in-the-whole-wide-world which many people seem to do

6) French slope gradings can be really weird. No, REALLY. (in Alpe d'huez, under graded for many green and blue, over for red, less so black.) My personal grading system would be Green: you can get down in snowplough Blue: Stem turns Red: you need to be able to ski Black: You're on your own.

7) Going to a catered chalet because it is ski in ski out and actually pretty cheap is not a bad idea, but you have to be prepared for STUFFS, I think we will be going back to self catered for Mrs Ham & my next year "solo" trip

Overall, a good week but not quite what we had hoped for in our first evah out of school holidays jaunt.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on March 23, 2015, 10:00:55 pm
I arrived back from Les Arcs yesterday.

Days 1-7 ski ski ski ski ski not much to say the sun shined I fell twice I crashed in to a beginner for the first time in years. I was mortified. No lift queues. Most pistes open most of the time.

Day 8
It ended badly as it usually does. I usually take the train so I have a day without an apartment to retreat to. The weather gods spot this and direct the first snowfall since the first few days of the month. So I had a choice of ski high in opaque clouds or go down to the low pistes where the snow is less good. I chose low because I am happier seeing where I am going.  So after lunch I had arrived in Arc 1600. I skied down Cachette and Arolles but decided I did not like rain. I had also noticed that the cloud was descending so I headed for the Arpette lift. The bottom seemed a little misty. This took me up to the top of Arpette between Arc 1600 and Arc 2000.  It is really difficult to see anything here at 2400m. Forward slowly into the gloom I take the blue Edelweiss piste. I keep right with the hill steeply climbing on that side. A small mis-sight on the other side of the road would be a nasty surprise. I notice my usual bumpy route to the left. I continue onward down Edelweiss. I always go down Lac here but not today and continue onto Plan. This might be the only time I ever skied/poled along this piste. There are quite a few groups of skiers heading along with me and my brother.  We reach the Arcabulle lift no one gets on it we are all heading for Arc 2000 or Arc 1950. I arrive back at Cimes des Arc in Arc 2000. I enter the boot room lean my skis against the wall. Instruct my brother to stand guard. I head of to reception and request towels. I shower and change into clean clothes. I swap places with my brother. It is only 5pm but we look for a nice place to eat. It is difficult to do in most ski resorts. Proper cooking only starts after 7pm. There are lots of places offering food 8:30 to 23:59 but most offerings are just crepes or waffles.  Eventually we find a restaurant with a middle menu. After food we return to the residence in time to see France lose their lead to England. Shortly after the second half starts we say goodbye to the hotel staff, catch the 7.30 navette, funicular and train to be woken up before the Channel Tunnel. Another ski holiday completed.

Not quite.

A little over a week before Friday I notice my Oyster card only has enough charge for one trip. So I offer up my credit card to the Oyster website. I get a email your card will be updated when you pass through Paddington tomorrow Saturday to the following Saturday. Sure enough on Friday I get on the tube and my Oyster card can no longer support another journey. No problem I think I will just enter another top up for Kings Cross in the week. So sitting in my room I approach tfl website again. I enter the stuff, I enter my credit card then an error. You cannot set up a top up at Kings Cross you already have one set up at Paddington, Error code 160. So the next day I can top up my oyster is Sunday when I am travelling which if I do it online it would be activated on Monday when I am back in Cardiff. Stupid system. Worse I checked my credit card online oyster have taken payment for the failed attempt. I used my credit card at the gate directly.

 
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 23, 2015, 10:42:23 pm
You're better off with contactless than oyster these days, unless you want to lend TfL some dosh for most of the time.


Interesting report of LesArcs, thanks, we're thinking of 1950 next year.

And oops, I appear to have had a slight Tignes-at-christmas web-chalet-finger-interface incident, group size is 22 so far....  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on March 24, 2015, 01:52:41 pm
So you are collecting superlative runs.  :)

1. Alpe d'Huez Longest black run in Europe. Sarrenne Although the run off is strictly a green run.
2. Les Arc. Largest vertical drop without an intervening lift. From Aguille Rouge down to Villaroger.

The Chalet des Neiges properties in Arc 2000 are at least as good in quality terms as the Arc 1950 Interwest residences. They have some apartments which can accommodate quite a high number of people. The older properties particularly those built for the Albertville olympic games are of a basic sort.
There are some nice new residences being built in the Chantel area of Arc 1850.  The other place people like to stay is Vallandry. That has the advantage to being the location of the Vanoise Express which connects Les Arcs to La Plagne. It is not that big an advantage the other Villages can get to Vallandry with one or two lifts. Arc 1950 and Arc 2000 use Bois de Ours lift.  Arc 1850 Vagere or Transarc. Arc 1600 Cachette or Mont Blanc then Arpette. Villaroger requires four lifts.  One lift back to Arc 1850 and a further lift for Arc 1600, Arc 1950 and Arc 2000. Once in Arc 2000 Villaroger require one more lift, Lanchette, to get them home.
 
I think there has been too much building in Les Arcs. It used to be a nice quiet resort. Arc 2000 was doubled in size with 1950 and some other new properties. Valandry is a lot bigger than it was and 1850 has built further up the hill where I once could ski. Even 1600 has new buildings. Villaroger remains the small village it always was.  They need to expand the ski area so we can escape the crowds but I believe its hemmed in by national parks. A problem some resorts do not have.   
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 24, 2015, 08:07:08 pm
I love the runs down to Vallandry through the trees, worst part of Les Arcs has to be when the non-black down from Aguille Rouge is closed on a crowded day :(

As you say, MGM have opened up some very nice properties, I don't know Chalet des Neiges but the USP of 1950 for me is the pedestrian ski in ski out town.

And Sarenne? longest in the WORLD if you please. That is if I believe what I was told by an ESF chap.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on March 25, 2015, 10:06:54 am

but the USP of 1950 for me is the pedestrian ski in ski out town.


Arc 2000 is ski in/out. out used to be through where they built -50. Last week Arc 1950 was not ski in/out. In the spring the pavement/road in -50 can be revealed. You could ski to the edge but not inside.


 
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on March 28, 2015, 09:36:28 pm
So once again I find myself in the Seekrit Ski Locker, with a bunch of skis to service for our next jolly, to Espace Killy once more next weekend.

Hmm, the kids have been quite hard on their skis. Bloody great gouges out of the bases.
So it's been a day of hot-scraping, base cleaning and p-tex repairs.

Could be worse. First World Problem, I suppose.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 28, 2015, 10:17:40 pm
Just edged and stored ours away today. I was quite surprised how little damage the last week caused, much better than the thin cover at christmas time.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on April 03, 2015, 10:29:38 pm
Cypress is offering this seasons pass holders 80% discounts on next years passes, so at least that's something.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on April 11, 2015, 06:23:17 pm
Just back from a week in Espace Killy.
Sunday was low vis, but remainder of week was strong sun, blue skies and spring snow.
Snow was holding up remarkably well, having dumped some the previous week.
The off-piste had some fresh soft powder higher up, not slushy.

A few tracklogs:
https://connect.garmin.com/activity/743399975
https://connect.garmin.com/activity/743399901
https://connect.garmin.com/activity/743399835
https://connect.garmin.com/activity/743399730
https://connect.garmin.com/activity/743399687

Junior was trying for 100kph, managed 97.5:
https://connect.garmin.com/activity/743426373
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: neilrj on April 11, 2015, 08:30:11 pm
Nice runs there and and your top speeds are pretty good, but the last one for Junior is private but 97.5! respect!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 21, 2015, 03:51:45 pm
Whoop whoop!

http://www.tignes.net/en/skiing-in-tignes/webcams-290.html

If you'd have looked two days ago it was green as green can be. Off on the 19th!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on November 21, 2015, 06:33:44 pm
Woo and indeed hoo also.

http://www.breckenridge.com/mountain/mountain-web-cams.aspx

We're off mid-December.

I'm bloody frozen at the moment, having spent most of the day in the garage ski-fettling, on one of the coldest days we've had this year.
And my SiL has just dropped their lot's skis round for fettling also.
She has some new skis for herself, so I just spent 5 minutes setting up the bindings for her boots, which have teeny-weeny sole length like you find on kid's boots!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 21, 2015, 08:59:25 pm
I got everything ready apart from the wax before I put them away, so just a hot scrape and wax to do.

 :smug:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on November 21, 2015, 11:15:37 pm
Yes, I promise myself I will do the same every year.

It's not happened yet.

I get to deal with rusty edges that were put away wet last year and allowed to rust.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on November 21, 2015, 11:39:26 pm
Whoop whoop!

http://www.tignes.net/en/skiing-in-tignes/webcams-290.html

If you'd have looked two days ago it was green as green can be. Off on the 19th!

This is what they want  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on November 24, 2015, 10:51:09 pm
We actually also have snow this year! Local mountains got a bigger base last week than they did the entire season last year.
Currently got a (cold) high pressure sitting here, but that means that the snow guns can do their thing and continue building that base.
Too swamped to go up these days, but in 2 weeks time I will be!!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 26, 2015, 02:09:22 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKyMim8XNPo
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 10, 2015, 09:24:01 am
And now, what to do if your resort is a little short of snow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMqADdsVmwQ

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on December 10, 2015, 03:19:41 pm
Take up parapenting ?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 12, 2015, 04:13:10 pm
Hot scrape and wax for three sets of skis in preparation for next week.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: trekker12 on December 15, 2015, 04:43:30 pm
Shiny new Saloman boots purchased (2014 season so £100 cheaper than RRP) and whisked off to Father Christmas for delivery on 25th December. Shame I have to wait until Easter before I get to test them. Unless We can find an opportunity for a cheeky weekend break in the new year.....
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 15, 2015, 05:29:49 pm
Remember you'll need to adjust the bindings on your skis, because the sole length will almost certainly be different!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: trekker12 on December 16, 2015, 10:09:36 am
I don't have skis. Skiing is somewhat new so it's a piece of kit at a time. Last year I hired skis and boots, now I only need to hire skis (and not have to worry about them at the airport)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Canardly on December 25, 2015, 01:20:50 pm
Daughter No 1 is skiing in Japan. Lucky devil.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mr Larrington on December 25, 2015, 01:29:54 pm
Daughter No 1 is skiing in Japan. Lucky devil.

Dr Larrington did that once.  It took ages for her toenail to grow back :sick:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 27, 2015, 01:17:23 am
Some of the Gated Terrain has finally opened after the ski patrol had finished banging off avalanches etc.

Took the Juniors up the brutal hike up to the top of Peak 6, and into the Beyond Bowl, which is visible in the background of this pic ( directly behind the smallest set of skis ):

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1540/23697447310_c819705be7_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/C74BtL)
IMG_20151226_132135 (https://flic.kr/p/C74BtL) by Ron Lowe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/), on Flickr

We also got to go down Wonderland, which starts from the top of Peak 6 as open un-pisted terrain and finishes up as a DIY through the woods.

It's the topmost section of this tracklog:
https://connect.garmin.com/activity/993232133
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 27, 2015, 10:43:21 am
Well, all rather thin on the ground, although Tignes provided for the week without too much aggro. rather a lot of ice and injury across the resort (3 in our party of 23)

Was spotted by an astonishingly eagle eyed Pippa with αdαmsκι on a random slope near the top of the Grand Motte, so I had to don the buff for the photo

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ZDE1Qs9T2S4/VnqILC7mk-I/AAAAAAAA1Fs/PFxdctpzyWI/s640-Ic42/upload_-1.jpg)

Good to see pippa and Mrs Ham and myself and  αdαmsκι  were appropriately coordinated ;)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on December 27, 2015, 11:45:48 am
We had six days of blue skies. It didn't feel like December and the snow was getting very thin, but on the bright side there was more open than last Christmas.

GPX track from the phone is here: https://goo.gl/aR3EKO I think we did a good job of covering the resort.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 05, 2016, 12:15:49 am
Looks like there has been some snow in Val d'Isere. Hopefully there'll be some more over the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 07, 2016, 06:35:39 pm
The Juniors were looking for Speed Records one day, so they shared the Garmin.
They were both looking to break 100kph.

Junior #1 managed 114 kph
Junior #2 managed 104 kph ( he weighs about 10kg when soaking wet! )

My own maximum was in the high 80s, but that's on account of a sense of self-preservation, not a lack of weight.

https://connect.garmin.com/activity/996808138

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 10, 2016, 07:07:38 pm
Apparently I did 240kph while sat in a restaurant last year. The GPS never lies  ;)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 10, 2016, 07:29:00 pm
Fast food.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 26, 2016, 09:45:40 pm
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1537/24559791016_70eff107ef_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DqgmdG)
tracks_2016_val_d_isere (https://flic.kr/p/DqgmdG) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 27, 2016, 07:57:10 am
Just back from a four day jaunt to Flaine. We hit it at exactly the right time (with regard the arrival of snow) and even managed to book a guide ahead of time for the one day when the vis was excellent.

The most amazing day (right up there in the top ten of all time days) at the end of which I was completely pooped.

It quite lifted the spirits.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 27, 2016, 11:03:16 am
Our guide mentioned these things (http://www.skimojo.com/) which seems like a genius idea.

Apparently a number of the older ski instructors are using, and swear by, them.

If they keep me skiing into my dotage I'll be delighted.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 27, 2016, 01:11:15 pm
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1537/24559791016_70eff107ef_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DqgmdG)
tracks_2016_val_d_isere (https://flic.kr/p/DqgmdG) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

Lunch down at Tignes Les Brevieres one day, via La Sache, I see.  :thumbsup:

Looking at the light turquoise line, from the bottom of the Tommeuses chair down to La Daille, was there enough snow to drop down into the Vallee Perdue?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 03, 2016, 05:27:20 pm
An alternative ski lift

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRv7G7WpOoU
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: mike on March 04, 2016, 04:04:21 pm
I'm off to La Plagne at ungodly o'clock on sunday for my second ever ski holiday, nearly 20 years after my first.

I'm not nervous so much as amused to imagine how many different ways I can find to fall over...  I've booked lessons.

The forecast looks bloody cold (-10ish). I can't remember how hard work it is, will I need more than a decent base layer, t-shirt and warm [borrowed] ski jacket?  I've bought some incredibly warm ski trousers and am going to decathlon for a spot of glove, helmet and sock shopping tomorrow.

Anything else I might forget?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: trekker12 on March 04, 2016, 04:52:42 pm
I did similar last year. Went to Austria following a gap of 18 years. Lessons were worth every Euro Cent. Loved every minute of it and have bought boots for our return trip in three weeks.

With the current forecast wrap up warm. It is hard work but as a novice you will spend lots of time stood (or lying in the snow) still and won't be continuously on the move like the 'pro's'. Also remember you are high up and going even higher on ski lifts in which you aren't moving much. Any heat generated on the way down the slope will rapidly be lost sat on a ski lift.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on March 05, 2016, 12:17:47 am
I'm off to La Plagne at ungodly o'clock on sunday for my second ever ski holiday, nearly 20 years after my first.

I'm not nervous so much as amused to imagine how many different ways I can find to fall over...  I've booked lessons.

The forecast looks bloody cold (-10ish). I can't remember how hard work it is, will I need more than a decent base layer, t-shirt and warm [borrowed] ski jacket?  I've bought some incredibly warm ski trousers and am going to decathlon for a spot of glove, helmet and sock shopping tomorrow.

Anything else I might forget?
I wouldn't wear a cotton t-shirt. Synthetics only.

You can buy hand warmers (and foot warmers) in Decathlon. They're tea bags sealed in plastic. Open the plastic and the contents of the tea bag warm up. Could be handy given the forecast. Slip one into each glove and possibly your boots as well.

A buff is always good. Maybe a balaclava if you chill easily.

Have you got good sunnies and goggles ?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 05, 2016, 12:49:54 am
I'm off to La Plagne at ungodly o'clock on sunday for my second ever ski holiday, nearly 20 years after my first.

I'm not nervous so much as amused to imagine how many different ways I can find to fall over...  I've booked lessons.

The forecast looks bloody cold (-10ish). I can't remember how hard work it is, will I need more than a decent base layer, t-shirt and warm [borrowed] ski jacket?  I've bought some incredibly warm ski trousers and am going to decathlon for a spot of glove, helmet and sock shopping tomorrow.

Anything else I might forget?

Layers are good if you don't know how you will get on with the cold, tech cycling tops work well. As trekker says, you will be doing a lot of standing around in lessons. Helmets are easy to rent, but I can understand you might prefer not to.

Where in La Plagne will you be staying? There are a number of linked villages.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on March 06, 2016, 11:32:18 pm
I saw someone with a Foska winter Marmite top this year.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on March 07, 2016, 04:33:34 pm
Just back from Bardonecchia. The plan was to do some easy off-piste if we got some snow. We got two 18 inch-plus drops, and had some very satisfactory runs through knee-deep powder.
The lifts are old and slow, and there are lots of drag tows to deter the boarders.

We went with Crystal and stayed at La Betulla, near the railway station. Good food, including lunch in the deal, and an open bar between 5 and 10. Very different from our usual chalets, with other guests including the engineers from the new rail link and the Frejus Tunnel, as well as a detachment of the Guardia Finanza. Ingham's go there as well.

We thought we might get bored with the limited skiing if it didn't snow, but there was a coach trip Montgenevre for €20, as the ski-pass allows a day there. We went to Sauze d'Oulx on the train on another day, it cost about €8 each and took about an hour to get there. The Bardonnechia ski-pass allows you to use all the Italian bits of the Milky Way system, so we took in Sestriere as well. On two days it snowed lightly, so we could have been anywhere, except for the empty slopes.

This was the bowl at 2800 metres at about 4pm, after the weather cleared at 2pm.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xft1/v/t1.0-9/12795439_981120111925599_8150413002420549413_n.jpg?oh=f9cc7119e4fcd5ad0bf8c53a800a4e05&oe=5798C280)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: trekker12 on October 10, 2016, 04:02:00 pm
First post for the thread this season

Flights and hotel booked for seefeld near Innsbruck :thumbsup:

Flying out Boxing Day return on 2nd Jan looking forward to experiencing an Austrian new year!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on October 23, 2016, 09:39:47 pm
OK, so the season approaches.

As is traditional, our tribe will decamp to Espace Killy for Crimbo / New year.
Junior #1 who is now a Penniless Student Oaf and a keen ski-er, still wants to come on our parent-paid ski hollibobs, naturally.

But he's also signed up to Edinburgh Uni Ski Club trip, which is conveniently the week after our family trip, but in Les Arcs.
He's told then he doesn't need airport transfer, and will show up in resort under his own steam.

So we need to figure out if we can just dump the PSO at Bourg St. Maurice on the way back to Geneva, and tell him to get a bus, or if we need to divert up to Arc 1800.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on October 23, 2016, 09:57:18 pm
Miss Ham managed under her own steam in similar circumstances. That was the year of the Great Sno, which meant she spent the night in a school hall, thobut ;)

We're in Val T. over crimbo.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on October 23, 2016, 11:06:33 pm
PSO needs to get his skins on.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on October 23, 2016, 11:10:21 pm
It's St Anton for us this season. We will obv. be apres skiing at Krazy Kangaruh & the Mooserwirt before trying to kill ourselves on the icy slopes back to town in the dark.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on October 24, 2016, 08:20:34 pm
New season, new board:
(http://i.imgur.com/YXicbOA.jpg?1)
Should be a fair bit better in powder than my old board.

Supposed to be a La Nina year, although the forecasters can't quite agree on how strong it'll be, but in any case, the forecast for this winter is wet & cold!.
I skipped on the season pass for the local mountains this year and plan to hitting Whistler & Mt. Baker a lot more.
Work should also be reasonable and I've kept a couple of vacation days in reserve for snow days.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Drone on October 27, 2016, 08:25:59 pm
First ski trip of the season now sorted. A week in Les Carroz in January. Just the February and March trips to book now. Is it time to start browsing for new skis?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: valkyrie on October 29, 2016, 07:28:13 pm
Four weeks today and I'll be in Val D'Isere for their opening week! After that I've got Kaltenbach booked for Christmas week and Fieberbrunn for New Year. Going off-piste for a week in March with the Snowheads forum bunch, just got to sort something out for February now. And maybe a week in April too. All this is possible because I've been doing a lot of travelling on Sundays for work and consequently had a bunch of days due back to me.

Tomorrow I'm heading to the fridge at Braehead to try out my new off-piste set up for the first time: Scott Superguide boots, Dynafit Beast bindings on Whitedot R.108 skis. A high class ski-touring set up that'll have me in the "all the gear and no idea" category for at least a few weeks. After that I hope to be able to live up to my kit.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on October 29, 2016, 08:06:11 pm
I spotted your user-name at Snowheads, and did wonder if it was the same you.

the Serre Chevalier & La Grave trip sounds good; enjoy.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: valkyrie on October 30, 2016, 09:00:07 am
the Serre Chevalier & La Grave trip sounds good; enjoy.

It was excellent last year - why not come along?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on November 18, 2016, 01:28:02 am
Finally snowing in the local mountains. It may get washed away in the weekend, though. Whistler is getting a decent amount and Baker is inching closer as well, so hopefully by the time my leg heals up, they should all have a decent base!.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Exit Stage Left on November 27, 2016, 09:15:21 pm
My first day's skiing at Yad Moss this season. Yesterday was great apparently, but Heather was rehearsing some Elgar and Parry.
It was above zero overnight, so the transformed snow was essentially Spring Snow in November, and was quite pleasant, by Pennine standards, when the variable light allowed us to see the surface.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 27, 2016, 10:17:54 pm
3 Sets of skis fettled into readiness today.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 04, 2016, 08:29:39 am
Looking good for two week's time for me  ;D

http://www.valthorens.com/en/live/livecams--webcams/resort-livecam.550.html
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 06, 2016, 06:39:01 pm
Looking good!
Here's the view over the same resort from Pt de la Masse taken a couple of years ago....

(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8615/16028344317_452fc70110_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qqnsm6)
Val Thorens from Pt de la Masse (https://flic.kr/p/qqnsm6) by Ron Lowe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on December 13, 2016, 09:30:44 pm
Gnnrraarrr. We just had a couple of major storms go through, it's subzero downtown and the local mountains have better snow conditions than most major resorts....and my gimpy leg wont let me touch any of it....
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on December 26, 2016, 06:56:46 am
And finally!
(http://i.imgur.com/wUTuKBk.jpg?1)

New board was weird for the first run, but once I got the hang of it, it was pretty sweet. Wont carve as fast on the groomers, but much much better on the steeps with lumpy/chopped up snow
First exercise of any kind in 2 months, so I burned out quickly, but it was awesome to be back up again. Storm coming through again tomorrow,so may head up again tomorrow late afternoon/evening.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 29, 2016, 02:48:19 pm
Heading off to Val d'Isere tomorrow.

Have spent a couple of days doing a ptex repair on one of the Junior's skis, a nasty core shot.
Just got finished up a short while ago.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/661/31922453216_869ddfd8f4_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QCSVbq)
Ski fettling (https://flic.kr/p/QCSVbq) by Ron Lowe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 01, 2017, 07:12:52 pm
Back from Val Thorens, I have never seen less snow there at Christmas. Thankfully the dump a month ago plus snow cannons actually provided OK skiing for the whole week (avoiding the popular reds especially in the afternoon). Zero off piste on South facing slopes (100% brown),  and pretty much zero (albeit a bit more white) on north facing. Not a snowflake below 1800. Most runs were open, although many should properly have been closed IMO.

Thankfully, VT starts at 2300.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 01, 2017, 07:15:33 pm
Heading off to Val d'Isere tomorrow.

Have spent a couple of days doing a ptex repair on one of the Junior's skis, a nasty core shot.
Just got finished up a short while ago.



?? Two DAYS ? Wonder there was anything left to repair!

Hope you're having a good time,  I suspect you may have a few more holes to repair on your return
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 15, 2017, 08:39:02 am
Heads up if anyone is interested in a pair of skis I'll be shoving on eBay later today

Storm Detonate 168cm - as in https://www.snow-online.com/ski/storm-skis-detonate-2011.htmlp

I bought them about five years ago, skied on them once, excellent nick. They are really nice skis, so why sell? Well, the description in the review is accurate "Smooth and forgiving" - that means they aren't as good as my Salomon's when it comes to the steeper stuff or ice (to be fair, nothing seems to match my Streetracers across ice) so very much an intermediate ski. PM me if interested.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 18, 2017, 10:26:14 pm
Four days in Flaine. It was dumping when we arrived (and had been dumping all the previous day).  Oodles of snow (but still lots more needed to secure a full season).

The only shame was that the sun came out on Sunday and so the place was heaving, and all the accessible fresh stuff was pretty much skied out by the end of the day.

Hired a guide on Monday and went for a bit of ski-touring. We did one run that the guide said in his 43 years in Flaine (!!) he has only been able to do about ten times. Big smiles all round.

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/281/31571654963_9e491919d4_z.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/759/31550773274_090602e256_z.jpg)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 22, 2017, 04:48:20 pm
We had a cold week in St Anton with temperatures down to -18 deg C, though it did warm up considerably on the last two days. it was snowing when we arrived and some more fell during the first three days of skiing. After that it was wall to wall sunshine. Lots of skiing done (including some comedy off-pisting) and some germknoedel and Maisel's Weisse consumed. The return flight was enlivened by the pilots' entertaining commentary  :)

Here's a map of tracks:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/729/31627517673_9678bb97f1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QbPi7R)
2017 St Anton (https://flic.kr/p/QbPi7R) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

And a pic of Mrs P not comedy off-pisting:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/541/32064884020_3947040632_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QRsUTW)
IMG_8178_01 (https://flic.kr/p/QRsUTW) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

And germknoedel:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/311/32068803260_fee02f3722_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QRNZX3)
Germknödel (https://flic.kr/p/QRNZX3) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

More pics here: https://flic.kr/s/aHskMoymHq

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Torslanda on January 22, 2017, 07:50:19 pm
Is that sweet or savoury?


...and is it as nice as it looks?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 22, 2017, 10:23:58 pm
Is that sweet or savoury?


...and is it as nice as it looks?

Poppy seeds & custard on a yeast dumpling filled with plum jam. Mrs P likes them.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on January 24, 2017, 06:48:17 pm
Here's a map of tracks:[/color]

Nice. I spot a Zurser-Taeli in there. [EDIT - no there isn't. My mistake]. But that's one of my favourite ever runs, ever.

[EDIT - looked at photos - and the slide to the toilets at the Hospiz Alm. Love that place.]

I had 4 days in St.Anton in early Jan with Mrs GB and a load of friends - no children - such apres ski - many hangover. First day just a half day (due to morning arrival) sunny up at Rendl, snow day 2 and some nasty blizzard conditions up at Galzig, 3rd day still cloudy but a glorious final day (where we nipped over to Zurs on the new Flexenbahn - including a comedy 200m uphill trudge as the second stage of the Trittkopfbahn wasn't running). -24 deg C at Alpe Rauz but got away with just a t-shirt and my jacket (without the inner liner).

My tracks on Strava:-

Jan 3rd: https://www.strava.com/activities/824878749
Jan 4th: https://www.strava.com/activities/824878819
Jan 5th: https://www.strava.com/activities/824878922
Jan 6th: https://www.strava.com/activities/824878857

Not much distance covered on this trip, mostly as it was a big group (16 people) and a fair mix of abilities. I also skied with MrsGB a fair bit on mostly blues. 36km on day 4 is a long way off my best in a day (89.6km: https://www.strava.com/activities/163216982). My lack of fitness didn't help, my thighs were in agony by 3pm most days!

5 days in Font Romeu coming up at half term (on the cheap), this time with MiniGB so she'll be getting her second dose of lessons. Can't wait.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 26, 2017, 08:43:33 pm
...including a comedy 200m uphill trudge as the second stage of the Trittkopfbahn wasn't running)...

That was the cause of our comedy off-pisting. We decided to forgo the trudge because a ski route was posted just outside the exit of the middle station. That was the only ski route marker we saw and it was much fun until we found the red run down to Zurs.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on February 09, 2017, 12:34:57 pm
Good snow in the Pyrenees. I'll be on the slopes in 6 days...

Can. Not. Wait.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on February 17, 2017, 03:49:12 pm
I'm just back from the school ski trip to Torgon, Switzerland, which is right on the edge of the Portes du Soleil resort.  The trip out on a 87 seater coach full to capacity after missing our planned ferry and going via Luxembourg and Basel took 24 hours, which in SI Units is 1 Forever. The road from the Rhône Valley up to Torgon is narrow, twisty and probably a great cycle route. In a coach it involved a lot of Austin Powers style driving (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGiQOCX9UbM) and a rest to allow the engine to cool down.

We arrived just after a decent dump of snow, and there were still snow specks falling on Friday evening. That was the last of the snow we saw as it was bright sunshine and blue skies for our six days of skiing and it was unseasonally warm - it felt like it could be April.  This meant the snow was quickly melting and there was a lot of slush, not helped by the low level of the resort. Torgon is at 1,200m and our maximum elevation during the week was just over ~2,000m. A drop in temperature and more snow is now needed.

The infrastructure around Torgon, Châtel and La Chapelle d'Abondance is old and slow, with a lot of drag lifts and slow 2 or 3 man chair lifts. A number of the runs were essentially links from one part of the resort to another and the skiing in parts felt disjointed, but the target was getting the kids onto skis rather than allowing me to ski 40+ km a day.  In that respect it was a success, and despite being Feb. half term it wasn't busy.

This is what I managed to ski over the six days: click for google map (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G2AdzRw72P1dckV8I4MSXzGcYyA&usp=sharing). Not the most skiing ever done, however I spent less than £75 on six days of skiing :smug:.

Pippa and I are planning an Easter ski trip, but we'll book that closer to the time when we've got an idea of what the snow is like.


(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/775/32138711443_91150c9b96_h.jpg)

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2727/32912525566_8d25594200_h.jpg)
https://flic.kr/p/S9nicm

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2238/32953229645_5575584fd9_h.jpg)
https://flic.kr/p/ScXV6P


(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/767/32138711243_0694748b75_h.jpg)
https://flic.kr/p/QXZia6

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2524/32799389732_7b42ccad7a_k.jpg)
https://flic.kr/p/RYnrRw
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 11, 2017, 07:15:04 pm

This is what I managed to ski over the six days: click for google map (https://drive.google.com/open?id=1G2AdzRw72P1dckV8I4MSXzGcYyA&usp=sharing).

Just been looking at the map ... that looks like a fun peak ;)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on March 11, 2017, 07:26:50 pm
There's a lovely chap in Torgon (or at least, there was) who ran Torgon Excursions (a coach operator) which I used to use to run transfers. I never did make it up there to ski though. Looks like fun.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on March 24, 2017, 04:48:16 pm

And germknoedel:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/311/32068803260_fee02f3722_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QRNZX3)
Germknödel (https://flic.kr/p/QRNZX3) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr


We have just booked a deal to Saint Anton for the first week of April on the basis of this photo.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on March 24, 2017, 05:12:37 pm

And germknoedel:

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/311/32068803260_fee02f3722_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QRNZX3)
Germknödel (https://flic.kr/p/QRNZX3) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr



We have just booked a deal to Saint Anton for the first week of April on the basis of this photo.
Would you like my list of the scale of germknödel?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on March 24, 2017, 08:38:33 pm
There's a scale of germknödel?!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on March 24, 2017, 09:25:55 pm
So the photo linked to above (with Pingu) is from the Bifang Alm just above the bottom of the Rendle. It is joint first place germknödel. All the other food is good too. Also recommended are the käsespatsle and the Tiroler Gerostle :P
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2889/33629432965_bec0375de0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/TeHCMK)Käsespatsle (https://flic.kr/p/TeHCMK) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/718/32263389491_b8fb94e1c0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ra1iE4)Tiroler Geröstle (https://flic.kr/p/Ra1iE4) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

Also 1st place is this one from the self service Albona restaurant.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/441/32304458066_2f9a269505_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/RdCMUW)Today's germknödel (https://flic.kr/p/RdCMUW) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

Last place is this one at the Rodel-Alm above the Nasserein. It's not a proper germknödel cos it's got blueberry sauce in it instead of powidl. However the other stuff on the menu is good.
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/285/31510677823_a967aa4f2f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Q1usGF)Mmm germknödel (https://flic.kr/p/Q1usGF) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

You must also go to the Hospitz-Alm in St Christophe and use the slide to the lavs (video)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/661/32068854830_2079f94b6e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QRPghb)VID_20170120_121245 (https://flic.kr/p/QRPghb) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on March 25, 2017, 03:50:00 pm
You must also go to the Hospitz-Alm in St Christophe and use the slide to the lavs (video)
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/661/32068854830_2079f94b6e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QRPghb)VID_20170120_121245 (https://flic.kr/p/QRPghb) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr

Brilliant ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on April 03, 2017, 01:24:56 pm
So the photo linked to above (with Pingu) is from the Bifang Alm just above the bottom of the Rendle. It is joint first place germknödel. All the other food is good too. Also recommended are the käsespatsle and the Tiroler Gerostle

They've run out of käsespatsle  :o. Tiroler Gerostle it is for Pippa then.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on April 04, 2017, 12:03:41 am
https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=78430.0  :P
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on April 05, 2017, 07:50:44 pm
https://flic.kr/p/SiB8XL
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on April 05, 2017, 09:58:24 pm
https://flic.kr/p/SiB8XL

Ooh fuck! Just dislocated or broken as well? Heal well, Pippa.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on April 06, 2017, 09:43:16 am
Dislocated, but she's now having a MRI from a clinic in town.

The skiing this morning was terrible due to the fog. When sat on a chairlift the chair in front wasn't visible. I decided after a few runs to come down on the Galzigbahn but it took two attempts to find the station from the top of Galzig.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on April 06, 2017, 09:52:24 am
https://flic.kr/p/SiB8XL

Ouch! GWS Pippa.

How did it happen? Not a germknoedel-related incident I take it?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on April 06, 2017, 12:14:24 pm
MRI says broken. Well a small fracture on the ball which is dislocated. THey want to operate and put 2-3 screws in to stabilise it.  The good news is my labrum is intact. They reckon my hand and lack of feeling is due to the shoulder squashing the nerve when it was dislocated. Feeling is slowly slowly returning, but could take months.

We were skiing down red run 122 above Zurs. We had already skied it once and I had got caught out towards the end where it flattened off and went slightly uphill over a stream. We decided to ski it again and I took the approach a bit faster  was in full tuck and just caught a ski edge and rolled over. My shoulder clearly took the impact. Unfortunately I kept rolling and ended up in the stream. Getting out was "interesting". Some guy had to pull me out as my arm was useless and it would have required scrambling up a snow covered bank.  Ski patrol came and diagnosed a dislocated shoulder. Told me a doctor with drugs was on the way in a helicopter. Doc came, gave me ketamin and then I basically woke up again in hospital. Adam was ahead of me when it happened and so was waiting for me at the Trittalp lift. He got told to stay there and then he ended up skiing back to St Anton with my skis and one pole. The other is lost somewhere.

Just sat here waiting for insurance to give the go ahead for th op.

I have all my MRI stuff on a CD :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on April 06, 2017, 12:33:15 pm
Ouch! GWS
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on April 06, 2017, 04:31:13 pm
Eek, that's all a bit too exciting. Hope they get you sorted and not too much life changing damage.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on April 07, 2017, 07:14:19 pm
Travel insurance said yes to the operation & she's currently in an Austrian clinic being screwed back together.

In other news I had a blast today, tho skiing alone isn't the same. Still I made the most of a lovely day & skied over to Zürs & enjoyed a few of the runs there (red 165 & 144 and blue 145 & 159) before heading down to Zug on the ski route, up to Zuger Hochlicht, a go on the mad Auenfeldjetbahn (is it a chairlift or a cable car?), then up to Rüfikopf, back over to Pippa's old friend Red 122 by Trittalpbahn & then back to Saint Anton via some of the Albona area. Sixty kilometres of skiing ain't bad.

Last day tomorrow. I'll meet Pippa for lunch at one of the accessible restaurants.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on April 07, 2017, 09:16:24 pm
https://flic.kr/p/T4v6Bh
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Thing2 on April 07, 2017, 09:31:54 pm
MRI says broken. Well a small fracture on the ball which is dislocated. THey want to operate and put 2-3 screws in to stabilise it.  The good news is my labrum is intact. They reckon my hand and lack of feeling is due to the shoulder squashing the nerve when it was dislocated. Feeling is slowly slowly returning, but could take months.

We were skiing down red run 122 above Zurs. We had already skied it once and I had got caught out towards the end where it flattened off and went slightly uphill over a stream. We decided to ski it again and I took the approach a bit faster  was in full tuck and just caught a ski edge and rolled over. My shoulder clearly took the impact. Unfortunately I kept rolling and ended up in the stream. Getting out was "interesting". Some guy had to pull me out as my arm was useless and it would have required scrambling up a snow covered bank.  Ski patrol came and diagnosed a dislocated shoulder. Told me a doctor with drugs was on the way in a helicopter. Doc came, gave me ketamin and then I basically woke up again in hospital. Adam was ahead of me when it happened and so was waiting for me at the Trittalp lift. He got told to stay there and then he ended up skiing back to St Anton with my skis and one pole. The other is lost somewhere.

Just sat here waiting for insurance to give the go ahead for th op.

I have all my MRI stuff on a CD :thumbsup:

Ouch! GWS Pippa.

One of our group managed to do something similar (but not quite so serious - no displacement on the fracture), on our first day ski touring in Norway last month. Having seen the pain he was in, drugs and a helicopter would be what I'd want in that situation.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on April 09, 2017, 04:44:02 pm
We're home. The flight was fine and as it wasn't, quite, full we got three seats for the pair of us to protect Pippa's shoulder and arm. GP appointment tomorrow to see what sort of physio the NHS can offer.

After lots of ski trips to the French Alps we were unsure what to expect from Austria but we very impressive. The towns and villages were really quaint and it didn't feel as barren as some of the high French resorts.  We would defiantly return, and besides Pippa only got to explore for 2½ days, and that was mainly spent around Rendl and Galzig. She only manged a few runs on the eastern side of Zürs and never got over to Lech or Warth.

Here's the gpx tracks from my week of skiing: click (https://drive.google.com/open?id=14soi1DYpvL_w_l5h8CjiviwmJNA&usp=sharing). Pippa's ski tracks includes a helicopter flight to Zams :facepalm:.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on April 11, 2017, 12:29:05 pm
https://flic.kr/p/SiB8XL
OUCH !!!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on April 12, 2017, 12:30:42 pm
This crash is the gift that keeps on giving...

Turns out the slight pain I had in my left leg post crash was probably a hairline fracture of my fibula.  Which when I ran for a bus yesterday to go to my shoulder doc snapped into a full on fibula fracture. After a night in A&E and lots of head scratching and chin stroking thinking about how to make me mobile with a non weight-bearing left leg, a left shoulder that needs resting and a left hand that doesn't function, a doctor declared this morning that I could weight bear (in contrast to what was said last night), put me in a moon boot, gave me a crutch and checked I could make 2 steps and sent me home.  ::-)

Now to wait for the fracture clinic to get in touch for an appointment - apparently that could take a month.  Sigh.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on April 12, 2017, 01:13:00 pm
Ooooch ..... GWS
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on April 12, 2017, 04:36:23 pm
Ouch. Bloody ouch. That all sounds awkward.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on April 12, 2017, 05:57:04 pm
Aw balls, that's miserable luck. Take care of yourself.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on April 18, 2017, 05:21:22 pm
For anyone with too much time on their hands I have put together an account of my recent ski tour along the Haute Route here (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=102754.0). There are pics so you don't have to read all the words.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on April 25, 2017, 09:16:22 pm
Just booked xmas 2017 in Alp d'Huez. Should be a hoot.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on September 15, 2017, 01:01:52 pm
It's that time of year again to...book the Feb half-term ski holiday.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on September 15, 2017, 07:59:36 pm
I looked a couple of days ago but then got a bit bored.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on November 29, 2017, 09:05:35 am
It's that time of year again to...book the Feb half-term ski holiday.

Sunday to Saturday in the Font Romeu (Pyrenees) giving 5 full days and the option of Saturday morning skiing too.

Tick tick tick...
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 13, 2017, 03:26:45 pm
Through various shenanigans, Mrs Ham & I have a double ski bag deficit, and Miss Ham & Paramour have a double ski bag to use. As we are flying, ski carriage goes on the number of bags, necessitating that I remedy that deficit.

Onto eBay, lo and beholdeth, a double bag for £20, looks good. But, what's this? the picture shows it to be a Decathlon. Hmm. Let's have a look at the motherlode. £9.99 for a double bag (https://www.decathlon.co.uk/snowboard-and-skis-bag-id_8224205.html) - not at all bad. Quality wise, it isn't the best, but it will do the job.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 22, 2017, 07:20:34 pm
Off tomorrow... snow looks the best for years!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 22, 2017, 07:23:42 pm
Off tomorrow... snow looks the best for years!

Have a good one.

We're off to Les Trois Vallées  after Crimbo, and I have to finish the ski fettling between bike rides before we go!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4601/24379549167_1e1ea39d68_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/D9kyAB)
Fettle fettle (https://flic.kr/p/D9kyAB) by Ron Lowe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Drone on December 23, 2017, 02:57:19 pm
All packed and ready to go. A week in Baqueria with my wife and rellies from France. The snow reports are looking good, and that bodes well for the rest of the season. My main difficulty over the next couple of months will be fitting in RRTY rides around the ski trips
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 31, 2017, 09:15:09 am
Well, that was interesting, in a lot of different ways.

Resort-wise was Teh Mountain of Teh Hoot !!1! (Alpe d'Huez) which is way off my fave resort. It is a huge, sprawling resort difficult to connect up, in a south facing bowl that has a tendency to turn to slush without the possibility of linking runs to stay out of the resort. That said, this Christmas we had some of the best skiing ever. Thick snow on arrival, two perfect sunny and warm days, one less perfect in the pm followed by a Day of Dump (c 60cm) then a fab day of powder. Crowds weren't bad, the expected influx of French post Xmas didn't seem to happen with only one day where queues were an issue.

Chalet-wise, we stayed at an Inghams (Hotel les Cimes), which was the choice of the party we were joining (making 25 total). It is a budget (3*) chalet which met our expectations. That is to say, it fitted our understanding of what would be on offer and in some ways exceeded. That's not meant to be damning with faint praise, but a 3* chalet is a 3* chalet, and a hotel-style operation is different from a chalet operation. Anyhow, our freezing shower DID get fixed after 4 days. Food was reasonable, staff excellent. From that experience, while I would never be seen in a Crystal, I would use Inghams again.

Flight-wise we had a total of seven (!!1!) changes of flight. The first three appeared arbitrary, and the subsequent replacement of the Monarch (!!1!) flight necessary. But then, another 3 changes ? Including being shifted from Geneva to Grenoble on the night before we flew back. That change, necessitating a 4 a.m. start accompanied by a cross-resort trudge down and up through thick snow to get to the bus because they couldn't reach the hotel (another 60cm snow over Friday night) was not best appreciated.

Equipment-wise I found myself replacing my old boots as  I had to admit to myself that I could lift my heel about 2cm. Which somehow led to a new ski buying experience; given that I am nearly 100% piste these days I failed to be seduced by the all mountain shapes and, after discussion with the Nice Man in the shop, ended up with the updated version of my Salomon Streetracers, virtually identical profile, race bindings, and - unfortunately - weight, even though these are allegedly titanium. I didn't ask for them to be waxed which led to interesting experimental info: previously I was faster on the glide than Mrs Ham, the new skis were markedly slower on exactly the same paths leading to Much Poling to keep up. Wax works.

Healthwise, it was all a bit shit. Both Mrs Ham and I started a cold just before we went, both lasted the entire week and I had an added ear infection thrown in which leaves me antibiotically alcohol free :(

I'd imagine anyone heading off now should have a really great week, best new year wishes to all, may the snow rise to meet your edges, and remember, all things are possible, except skiing through a revolving door
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 08, 2018, 11:48:18 am
We had a mixed week.

First few days we had deep fresh powder every day; it was great.
Then one day where the uplift was all closed on account of high winds.
Then the temperature rose, and we had heavy rain.

This turned the light powder into very heavy going, which then froze into a very hard crust overnight.
So the last 2 days were mostly on-piste, because the off-piste was such hard going.

BA mislaid our skis both there and back!
So we had to rent on day 1.

Catered chalet was excellent ( we had it to ourselves as a party of 8 ).
I seem to have brought a bottle of Génépi home with me!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 08, 2018, 11:58:43 am
wondered what it was going to be like for you, where were you? Chalet sounds like Meribel  is most likely? VT was likely a bit rough with the winds.

Génépi - nominative determinism strikes again (although I've never met a Gene)

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 08, 2018, 01:51:53 pm
We were in Meribel Village, which is on a dogleg off the main road up to Meribel Centre and Mottaret.
There was good snow down that low, which is fairly unusual.

We went over to VT a couple of days, and Courchevel also.
However the 3-valleys interconnects were closed due to high winds on a couple of days too.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 08, 2018, 11:00:39 pm
We're off to Méribel on Saturday. Anything new since we were last there, three years ago?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 09, 2018, 07:59:14 pm
The biggest thing will be the sheer quantity of sno.

The only thing I've noticed is the new Plattieres lift, but I think that's more than 3 years old.
It was there last time we were, so I expect you've already seen it.

The old 3-section gondola with egg-shaped cabins and Disney character signage has been retired, and replaced with a much higher capacity gondola which goes up as far as the old Plattieres 2 station.
The upper section to Plattieres 3 has been replaced with a seperate stand-alone gondola.

This has pretty much eliminated the mahoosive queues that used to form in Motteret at certain times of day.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 18, 2018, 03:19:38 pm
Oops

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4607/24892635227_bd289ffbda_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/DVFgcZ)
2018-01-18_03-10-02 (https://flic.kr/p/DVFgcZ) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Torslanda on January 18, 2018, 04:46:02 pm
Garth: '. . . and then you can . . . <garbled/drowned out by landing 747> until the handle breaks off and you have to go to the ER!'

Wayne: 'You kiss your mother with that mouth . . . ?'
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on January 21, 2018, 10:22:54 pm
A sneaky four days in Flaine. Three days of fair to good vis and then snow on the last day. Third day we took a guide and had a glorious, if slightly frustrating day. Covered lots of ground but the guide wasn't willing to get too far ahead of us, which meant no blatting, so we had to derive our pleasure from practising precise and controlled turns, but only two, perhaps three or four in a row. He did take us down one route we've been aiming to do for about four years now, so that was splendid.

Last day was spectacular, only one lift open but we know the area well enough to get a mostly different route down almost every time we did it (and I think we had 12 lifts in a slightly shortened day). One thing we did discover is that once one set of people have been down an off-piste route, it doesn't take long before it's skied out.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 22, 2018, 09:44:02 pm
We were in Méribel in the Trois Vallées last week. We didn't see much sun, but the snow was the best we've had for a few years. For three days the links to the other valleys were shut due to winds/avalanche risk. On one of those days only a handful of lower lifts were open. Still, we had lots of good skiing and managed to find some craft beer just a couple of minutes walk away from the chalet  :P On transfer home day we were taken back to the airport really early because of the possibility of snow. The travel company gave us free train tickets into Geneva. We didn't see a huge amount, but it beat sitting around an airport for hours.

ETA:

Some foties here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/albums/72157662862079057

Some tracks here: https://ridewithgps.com/users/166313/activities
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jakob on January 23, 2018, 02:15:01 am
http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/Mount-Baker/6day/mid

I know where I'm going this weekend.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on February 19, 2018, 12:42:46 pm
5.5 days skiing in Font Romeu (in the Pyrenees). Very learner friendly resort, plenty of greens and blues which is useful when going with children.

Good snow, mixed weather (two days of sun, one day of light snow all day, another cloudy day, rain/hail for half a day, then sun for last day and a bit). Resort is quite compact and low (1700-2200m) and mostly within the tree line so visibility is rarely bad. Resort relatively quiet despite being UK half term, it filled up as we were leaving as both the French and Spanish half terms kicked in.

Half term skiing on the cheap[1]. Easyjet flights to Montpellier, rental car and a 3h drive each way, self-catered apartments 400m from the telecabine (that's a fair trudge with 2 sets of adult skis there and back every day but strapping them to the rucksack using the compression straps works well!)

Third week for MiniGB (8yo) and she's happy winding her way down anything (including a few black runs as long as they're not too choppy) but plenty more technique to be learned for her. I love the fact that the children have no fear of the sound of edges on ice - the less experienced adults get spooked by this but the children just dig their edges in and carry on blissfully unaware.

My Strava heatmap shows I've skied pretty much every bit of piste in the resort at least once (will tick off the last bits if/when we go back next year) but far from bored of it, probably a couple of years left in the place before we look for something bigger and less learner friendly.

1. 4 adults and 4 children probably £5k all in, including eating out most nights. (We were quoted £13k for a catered chalet in Tignes during the same week and that didn't include ski hire and lift passes. Oof.)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on February 19, 2018, 06:22:38 pm
That 5k include lift passes? Looks like a good half term option, but we tend to have been spoiled by the extent of the 3 Valleys, Espace Killy and the like. Another excellent one we went to a few years back was Val Cenis. Again excellent skiing for all levels, looks more extensive than Font Romeu, was quite cheap for French resorts at the time (and left me with a yet-to-be-scratched itch to cycle over Col d'Iseran, along with Col de Mont Cenis it is a part of)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on February 19, 2018, 08:33:24 pm
Oh boy. Just back from a week in Avoriaz. Haven't skied there in years so we wanted a guide to show us round. We left it far too late and could only find one guide for one day.

Saturday, snowy, grey.
Sunday, ditto.
Monday, dump dump dump.
Tuesday, glory be. 2' of fresh snow, not a cloud in the sky, and, we have the guide for the day. Haven't had a day like that in years, and we've had more than our fair share of epic runs of late. We'd had our money's worth in the first half hour. We effectively did the tour of the Portes du Soleil off piste in mostly deep and untouched snow. And the best bit was that my regular ski buddy and I were both able to share it with our respective elder kids. Mini-hatler had a ball.
Wednesday, we attempt the tour with the full three-family complement. Beautiful weather. Too many people to corral and we got far enough behind schedule (combined with a long lunch) that we turned back on our tracks not quite half way round. Still, a beautiful day.
Thursday, pissing rain. At least the pistes were clear. Great fun despite the poor visibility. The biggest impediment to my skiing was that my ski-troos were sopping wet and bending legs was problematic due to the clinging fabric.
Friday, still too mild but no real rain, and vis was poor again so pistes remained clear. Stayed in the trees and had a ball (and a monster lunch).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on February 19, 2018, 09:02:22 pm
That 5k include lift passes?

Yep, the family deal and a 10% discount for buying them more than 2 weeks in advance meant we paid ~€150 each for them (the family deal means the adults pay the child rate of €166 instead of the adult rate of €192, then apply the 10% discount).

For us (me, wife, 8yo daughter) it was something like:-
* Flights: £350
* Rental Car: £215 (including diesel for the ~600km of driving)
* Lift passes: £410
* Ski hire: £250 (20% discount thanks to deal with accommodation)
* Lessons for MiniGB: £85 (shared 5 x 2h lessons with proper ESF instructor with her 3 cousins)
* Accommodation: £650
* Food/Drink/etc: £300

Similar for my brother but proportionally more for flights, lift passes, ski hire and lessons as he has 3 kids. Maybe a shade over £5k for the 8 of us as it doesn't include some other things like airport parking. Accommodation was the same as we just borrowed my niece to make it 2 adults + 2 kids per apartment.

Cheap/basic accommodation (self catering studio apartments with bunk beds in the hallway for the kids) and getting in early with the (Easyjet) flights (to a non-obvious destination for skiing - Montpellier) was the key, also going Sun-Sat to keep the flight costs down, still got 5 full days and one day until 1pm of skiing in (could have pushed it to 2pm as we arrived at the airport an hour before check-in opened but erred on the side of caution as the weather was changeable).

A sprawling ski area like 3 Valleys or Espace Killy would just be a waste when going with children aged 10, 8, 7 and 6. A combination of lesson timings (and having to be back at base to pick them up ~11.30am), feeding them, and their subsequent tiredness means you'd never get to explore anywhere near all of it. It's definitely on the list for when they're all older though. I love the skiing at both of them, and I do miss the long runs with lots of elevation change, the most you can do in one go is ~500m elevation drop in Font Romeu.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pippa on February 24, 2018, 02:23:27 pm
Off to Val d'Isere tomorrow. It's looking a bit, well, chilly next week!

First time back on skis since I caught an edge last year resulting in my arm basically falling out  :o  :facepalm:  ;D

Am sure it will all be fine...if not, there is plenty of apres to keep me amused  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Jurek on February 28, 2018, 06:47:41 pm
Off to Val d'Isere tomorrow. It's looking a bit, well, chilly next week!

First time back on skis since I caught an edge last year resulting in my arm basically falling out  :o  :facepalm:  ;D

Am sure it will all be fine...if not, there is plenty of apres to keep me amused  :thumbsup:
Chapeau to your bravery  / foolhardery.
I hope you have a very fine time.
:)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on March 16, 2018, 05:13:40 pm
Jings!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-43422186/skiers-jump-from-speeding-lift-in-georgia
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on October 09, 2018, 07:55:24 am
Just booked flights for the Pyrenees again in the Feb half term.

Probably the last year at this small resort (see above) as the children will probably have outgrown it by 2020.

But....Woo!
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on October 09, 2018, 08:21:26 am
We've got Val Thorens booked for Christmas, with Miss Ham & new baby. Mrs Ham's knees have taken a turn for the worse over the last year (and they weren't up to much last year) so has been booked in for baby sitting sessions. Apparently it isn't the done thing to actually sit on them, who knew?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on October 09, 2018, 09:21:08 am
We're booked into Val d'Isere for a week in January.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on October 17, 2018, 01:20:20 pm
And just booked a 3.5 day boys trip to Flims in $witzerland in late March. Woo. (Ouch, my liver.)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on November 29, 2018, 10:08:54 pm
Sno has arrived in ValT, which is just as well.

And, if this was anyone other than Candide Thovex I'd say that there was some digital manipulation going on, as it is I'm not sure there isn't a little bit here and there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHrwcQQ38bA
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on November 30, 2018, 07:30:48 am
I wouldn't like to be his knees.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 02, 2018, 11:48:30 am
OK.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocW6mxEmXgw

could well be in the "Never in a million years"

Somewhat disappointingly, it appears he didn't use K2 skis. I'd live to see a lull length version of that, 7 hours descent....
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on December 09, 2018, 07:04:16 pm
Heads up just in case anyone is interested, I'm selling my 164 Salomon Streetracer 10's on eBay, pm if you would like details might be useful if you needed summat like that, I don't expect them to make much and could end the listing.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on December 17, 2018, 02:02:50 am
I am off to Canazei at the end of this week. The Sella Ronda is one of the best places to go for early skiing. They have a magnificent artificial snow making capability.  A few years ago in a very bad year almost every piste was open with wide and deep artificial snow. It looked really odd in places where you could see a mesh of pistes with no snow off piste.  Looking at the Val Gardena down hill on Sasslong Saturday and Sundays Giant Slalom on Gran Risa in Alta-Badia there in no need for that much snow making this year.  snow-forecast promises more

I bought myself a new pair of skis. I am not a racer or do much off piste so I buy non race piste skis. I bought a Fischer Progressor F19 Ti. It has most of the features of the racier skis without racy prices. I considered buying the GS version of the Fischer Curv family. Fischer Curv are essentailly race skis that are illegal under current race regulations. (Too high a carving plate angle, not allowed). XSpo.de is a cheaper than average place to buy skis.

My booked trips

Canazei - Christmas 2018
Kitzbuhl - January 2019
Les Arc - March 2019

Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: hatler on December 17, 2018, 07:16:52 am
The Sella Massif area is glorious. We went to Arabba many years in a row and are itching to go back.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on December 17, 2018, 10:19:02 pm
This is the ski I chose

https://www.fischersports.com/progressor-f19-ti-140?number=A09318.9002972288579&c=162 (https://www.fischersports.com/progressor-f19-ti-140?number=A09318.9002972288579&c=162)

170cm

It amuses me that Fischer have not realised yet that most native English speakers see the name Progressor and assume that they are beginners skis. Progressor refers to the dual radius design. I know the low numbered Progressors are for learners/children but the high numbers are not.
 
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on December 29, 2018, 02:47:08 am
Back in Breckenridge, and it's proper cold with fresh powder.
The access gates to the Snow White bowls have never been open on any of my previous visits, but they are now.

This pic is my brother being guided down by his daughter, as we watch from the bottom. They are the small dots in the middle centre.
As usual, the pics don't do justice  to the terrain.
Getting into the bowl involves a jump off the cornice at the top, which is a little intimidating.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4877/45593794065_7b3245ae59_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2csY7vF)
Snow White (https://flic.kr/p/2csY7vF) by Ron Lowe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on December 30, 2018, 11:13:37 am
This Christmas in the Sella Ronda the resort was again displaying its skill with the snow cannons.  Very open except for a few minor pistes and the snow parks which were closed. Judging by frantic snow making going on in these they will be open this weekend.

As for me I discovered that last years knee problem is not resolved.  Pistes over a certain steepness are very painful. Sasslong (World Cup downhill piste in Val Gardena) was ok, but sections of Gran Risa (the steepest World Cup giant slalom piste in Alta Badia) and Valcano (A black in Pozza di Fassa) were very painful.

Apart from that a very enjoyable holiday.  The new skis are stable at speed and turn easily.





Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 03, 2019, 09:55:57 am
VT was great this year, after two dull days four bright sunshine without much wind, who could ask for more?

I did notice that the mapping and signage has been substantially upgraded, which made me start to look at it closely. The hand-out piste map has had big two way arrows on the "link" peaks (to Meribel & Orelle) which actually helps a lot, visually. Then, you notice that the size of the map has been reduced quite substantially which, compared with the previous years, makes it a lot more cramped. The piste signposts have also had the general direction added, which is a simple but great idea. Not only do you get the piste and lift, but also resort region.

Anyhow, all those changes made me think, what changes have taken place over the years? So I dug out an old map. Now, some changes are easy - anyone else remember that turn at the top of Rosael (going over to Orelle) where you had to turn under the pylon or go over the cliff? That's now a blue path completely bypassing the old track which you can see and wonder, "did we REALLY all ski that ?" The oldest map I could find is a 89/99 one, and the differences are telling. Back then, the "high" lifts (eg Peclet) were reds at best, now they all (or, almost all) have blue paths down. Another change is that the mountain sectors have been linked better, to stop you having to go down to the resort centre. On the map front, they have added more arrows to show cartographically challenged skiers which way is down. I confess I hadn't noticed until now that, in 2011, they had renamed all the Courchevel villages away from their heights to names, eg, 1650 has become "Courchevel Moriond", but then nobody appears to be referring to them as that anyhow.

Anyone else done map comparisons? I may have a look to see what maps I have in the Paradiski  area as well, which should (at least, could) span the same sort of time gap.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Feanor on January 04, 2019, 04:24:43 am
Slightly OT, but we are doing extreme board gaming before our last day here in Breck...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7864/46594582321_d922b36a91_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dZppZB)
Extreme Board Gaming (https://flic.kr/p/2dZppZB) by Ron Lowe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on January 05, 2019, 06:01:27 pm
Anyone else done map comparisons? I may have a look to see what maps I have in the Paradiski  area as well, which should (at least, could) span the same sort of time gap.

I have not done comparisons.  I found my 1997 Les Arcs map. Showing how wonderful Les Arc was before they built too much accommodation. Didn't need Varet in those days TS Dou de l'Homme (3 person fixed chair) went up to meet TPH Aiguille Rouge.  The only decoupling chair in Arc 2000 was Lanchettes.  There were more drag lifts that have gone now.  Major change is that to ski down to the Mamottes drag (now decoupling chair) you now need to go around the piste past St Jacques, that looked like it was about to fail then, when in the good old days everyone went down the steep slope and cut the corner.  The obvious change is thge new resort of Arc2000 - 50.  Together with other new builds this destroyed a nice quiet area of the resort.   The backwaters of Peisey Nancroix/Valandry are even more spoiled.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on January 07, 2019, 05:19:46 pm
They've made some of the lifts faster in Laax/Flims, I'm getting a bunch of notifications from Strava that my CRs on various segments (corresponding to chair lifts) have been beaten by a bunch of seconds.

Good news as I'll be there in a few months.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 07, 2019, 05:39:43 pm
Anyone else done map comparisons? I may have a look to see what maps I have in the Paradiski  area as well, which should (at least, could) span the same sort of time gap.

I have not done comparisons.  I found my 1997 Les Arcs map. Showing how wonderful Les Arc was before they built too much accommodation. Didn't need Varet in those days TS Dou de l'Homme (3 person fixed chair) went up to meet TPH Aiguille Rouge.  The only decoupling chair in Arc 2000 was Lanchettes.  There were more drag lifts that have gone now.  Major change is that to ski down to the Mamottes drag (now decoupling chair) you now need to go around the piste past St Jacques, that looked like it was about to fail then, when in the good old days everyone went down the steep slope and cut the corner.  The obvious change is thge new resort of Arc2000 - 50.  Together with other new builds this destroyed a nice quiet area of the resort.   The backwaters of Peisey Nancroix/Valandry are even more spoiled.

OK I confess, I think Arc 1950 is one of the best resorts ever. But yes, I do know what you mean.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: TPMB12 on January 08, 2019, 10:13:24 am
Just back from our first family ski trip in Geilo, Norway. Both my young son and I were complete novices. Now we're still green runners but a 2km long steep green run was our favourite haunt at the end. We're both skiing a little top quickly for my liking. My previously skiing partner only skis slowly so I was left chasing the 6 year old.

Still snow ploughing but a very shallow snow plough with good edging to make turns. Our son has no fear and spends his time looking around whilst skiing quickly down the steep bits. So casual like it's normal.

So where is a good venue for novice family skiers for the next end of year trip? I think it's an annual ski trip over new years for us. Kid will be 7 by then. Nice easy runs straight from the hotel door preferably. Across the forecourt and we were at the lifts. Ski bus got free to the other side of the valley and the other three sets of ski centres/lift hubs. Anywhere else like that?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on January 08, 2019, 11:36:02 am
My recommendation would be Val Cenis, staying at Lanslevillard where you can step onto the slopes (locating bike-wise, the road from there goes up to the Col d'Iseran, thence to Val d'Isere).

Ideal resort for families and learners to intermediates, less costly than some of the bigger resorts, will be much sunnier (potentially) than Norway. Some great mountain restaurants, accessible by beginners, too.

Here's the piste map

(https://www.ski-school-valcenis.co.uk/public/files/plans/ValCenis-HMV-2018-19.jpg)
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on January 10, 2019, 03:07:04 pm
I am off to Kitzbuhel this weekend.  At least I hope I can get there.  Lots of snow in places which normally do not get much causing transport chaos in Austria.  Even made the BBC news.

Looking at the webcams the snow looks very heavy.  On the gentler pistes I could see people polling downhill. Goggle weather until Tuesday when I can prefer sunglasses.


Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 23, 2019, 10:04:27 pm
Gah - I always seem to damage my knuckles when reassembling the ski boots  :demon:
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on January 23, 2019, 10:11:20 pm
Anyway, Val d'Isere last week: mostly good skiing. One morning missed due to bad weather, one day missed by me due to dodgy bowels (Mrs P went out by herself and didn't end up in the Maurienne valley  :thumbsup:) Some new infrastructure since we were there in 2016.

Some pics here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/albums/72157705881036955

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4852/46762459722_1301c26e52_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2efeQ6y)
val_disere_2019 (https://flic.kr/p/2efeQ6y) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on February 15, 2019, 11:55:14 am
I'm currently on the way to Austria for six days of free skiing :smug:. Oh yeah there's 60+ school kids on the coach too ::-) Conditions are looking great and it'll fun to explore a new resort.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on February 15, 2019, 04:31:16 pm
Off to Font Romeu in the Pyrenees on Sunday for a week. Only got two afternoon lessons for the children so I'll be doing my fair share of herding my daughter and some of her cousins (and some of their cousins).

Snow doesn't look great but there is enough and the runs gets groomed well enough.

Can. Not. Wait.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on February 16, 2019, 04:07:53 pm
Day 1.

Faff in the morning trying to deal with 60+ kids getting ski gear sorted but then we had sunshine, blue skies, great company and a fantastic day. Bring on tomorrow.

https://strava.app.link/0huYwfNgmU
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on February 18, 2019, 11:53:59 am
Day 3 and I've had my first germknödelb of the trip ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on February 18, 2019, 05:07:11 pm
Yum. What took you so long?
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on February 20, 2019, 10:05:24 pm
My lunch stops are dictated by where the ski instructors take our school kids rather than where I want to eat. Well that's my excuse.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Mrs Pingu on February 20, 2019, 10:18:27 pm
Hmm yes, I remember being unimpressed at having lunch stops as part of ski school in Austria.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: αdαmsκι on February 24, 2019, 08:55:52 pm
And now I am back from Ski Juwel here is the map of everywhere I skied during my six days: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QY47Uts4MuUvXmHH0Bx6yPI4UvD8yjWU&usp=sharing

It's a great resort for beginners as there are lots of easy slopes. The villages in the valleys are beautiful. Having to use the lift to go down into Inneralpbach is slightly annoying, but that's only an issue when getting between the two main areas and so was only needed on three occasions. There were some great views across all the Tirol due to the fantastic weather.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on February 25, 2019, 10:05:06 am
Amazing blue-skies week in Font Romeu in the Pyrenees, didn't see a cloud all week. The kids (my daughter, some of her cousins and a couple of their cousins) absolutely loved it, including my 7yo nephew who is jumping and carving like a pro.

I also got the occasional bit of time to myself to blast down some of the runs although the children are getting faster and faster so there's less time spent waiting/collecting.

Mild sunburn in unusual places due to helmet straps rubbing away some of the SPF 30, should have reapplied it after lunch each day. Oops.

Snow was ok but starting to get a big grabby in the afternoon on some of the slopes on the last day. Wouldn't be looking forward to going this week as it's going to be very patchy with the week of warm weather approaching and no new snow forecast for more than a week.

Can't wait for a boys trip to Laax/Flims in a month where there will be a lot more skiing (assuming there's snow!).
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on March 04, 2019, 10:03:29 pm
Got an idle moment? Ski down Face with Graham Bell https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80hu9ppSt1w

It helps if you know what it's like, he talks to the camera all the way down. No it doesn't take long.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Pingu on March 04, 2019, 10:43:59 pm
He should be doing it as the last run of the day when it's all iced up  ;D
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Greenbank on March 05, 2019, 09:14:52 am
Strava says my fastest on Face is 5:54 but I was skiing with someone slower than me then and it was never that nice snow (excuses, excuses).

Looking back it seems I'd snuck in early on some newly created segments:-

(http://www.greenbank.org/misc/vd2015.png)

Off to Flims/Laax in just over two weeks.

With. No. Children.

Can. Not. Wait.
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: CommuteTooFar on March 29, 2019, 02:14:26 pm
Ouch! A week ago Monday I was standing on the edge of an icy mogul on the a steep section of the Bois De L'Ours black piste in Les Arc.  I decided to turn.  Moved my weight on to my upslope right leg. My right ski slips down the mogol hits my left ski and all the sudden I am standing on nothing. I land on my right arm.  I pause to consider what had just happened and ski down to the Mammottes lift and take Chalets piste back to my residence in Arc 2000.

I decided not to ski on Monday afternoon over concern over my arm. On Tuesday I find it very painful to put on a T-Shirt. So I decend to Arc 1950 because there is no longer a doctor Arc 2000.  Wait a couple of hours then after a few hours waiting and four x-rays it is concluded that I do not have a broken arm just a contusion. In the Afternoon I take the navette to Arc 1600. There is no longer a pharmacy in Arc 2000/1950. Fill my prescription on Lamoline and Ketoprofane.

Wednesday I continue my brillliant ski holiday.  I only took 2 Lamoline so I am not addicted to opioids.

Back now. Arm still hurts.
 

 
Title: Re: The Ski Locker thread
Post by: Ham on July 22, 2019, 11:23:47 am
OK, it's an ad, but this is the best Candide Thovex  yet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHrwcQQ38bA


Sometimes I wonder about that memory stuff between my ears... https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=55316.msg2346522#msg2346522