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General Category => On The Road => Topic started by: hellymedic on July 17, 2016, 05:24:00 pm

Title: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: hellymedic on July 17, 2016, 05:24:00 pm
Chris Boardman has Tweeted that his mother, Carol Boardman, was killed in a crash in North Wales this morning.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnlDJsUWEAAy5ch.jpg)

RIP Carol
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: mcshroom on July 17, 2016, 05:25:07 pm
:(
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Jurek on July 17, 2016, 05:27:07 pm
 :(
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Jakob W on July 17, 2016, 06:00:29 pm
 :( RIP.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: woollypigs on July 17, 2016, 06:08:00 pm
Gutted :(
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Canardly on July 17, 2016, 07:06:45 pm
 :( RIP
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: matthew on July 17, 2016, 07:08:02 pm
Bollox, just heard this on the radio.

RIP
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: asterix on July 17, 2016, 08:02:39 pm
Just heard after TdF highlights
 :(

Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Von Broad on July 17, 2016, 08:08:53 pm
Just heard after TdF highlights
 :(

Yes, what a sad and poignant end to the program.
Condolences to family.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: numbnuts on July 17, 2016, 09:27:51 pm
Very sad RIP
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: caerau on July 17, 2016, 10:03:33 pm
Very sad and more sadly, sounds like a disturbing one too.


RIP


 :(
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: TimC on July 17, 2016, 11:11:49 pm
So sad. RIP.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Ruthie on July 17, 2016, 11:36:40 pm
 :(

So, did Chris still commentate today?
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Tim Hall on July 17, 2016, 11:52:57 pm
:(

So, did Chris still commentate today?
No, it was just Ned and David (on the highlights at least). They explained why at the end of the programme and ran a montage of Chris Boardman's family photos alongside the text of his tribute.

I cried my eyes out.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Ruthie on July 17, 2016, 11:55:56 pm
:(

So, did Chris still commentate today?
No, it was just Ned and David (on the highlights at least). They explained why at the end of the programme and ran a montage of Chris Boardman's family photos alongside the text of his tribute.

I cried my eyes out.

How unspeakably horrible.  Poor Chris, and their family  :'(
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Mr Larrington on July 18, 2016, 12:24:15 am
:(

So, did Chris still commentate today?

Gary Imlach said at the beginning of the live coverage that Chris had had to go home "because of a family emergency", details of which were left out.  Elaboration was left for the end of the highlights show by which time the news had got out anyway.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: ElyDave on July 18, 2016, 06:25:28 am
I missed both of those bookends, just seen it here. That is just really crap
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: clarion on July 18, 2016, 01:31:14 pm
That's awful.  A woman who had given so much, and inspired so many.

Thoughts with Chris, Keith and family.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: T42 on July 18, 2016, 01:41:17 pm
Shame. :(
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: mattc on July 18, 2016, 01:48:30 pm
:(

So, did Chris still commentate today?
No, it was just Ned and David (on the highlights at least). They explained why at the end of the programme and ran a montage of Chris Boardman's family photos alongside the text of his tribute.

I cried my eyes out.
The text was really beautiful. (Is that the image in the first post? I cant see it from here, sorry.)


Very very sad.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: hellymedic on July 18, 2016, 02:33:31 pm
The text was in the image in the OP.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: jamesld8 on July 19, 2016, 07:13:02 pm
Didn`t see the Highlights Sunday so found out by FB post. Truly dreadful news, feeling a combination of very upset and very angry and very aware of own vulnerability out cycling. Just some momentary impatience / inattention by a driver of a lethal weapon has destroyed a life and devastated a wonderful family who have given their lives to cycling.
No wonder many of children I`ve recently started cycle road training are frightened of cars, what effect will this dreadful event have on them?

Carol Boardman RIP and my thoughts are with Chris and rest of his family. 
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Redlight on July 21, 2016, 09:40:21 am
For this brave enough to go exploring the murky depths at the bottom of the gene pool, the vile Keith Peat has been quick to gloat  http://www.driveeastmidlands.com (http://www.driveeastmidlands.com).
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: trumpet on July 21, 2016, 09:51:20 am
For this brave enough to go exploring the murky depths at the bottom of the gene pool, the vile Keith Peat has been quick to gloat  http://www.driveeastmidlands.com (http://www.driveeastmidlands.com).

Words fail me.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: mattc on July 21, 2016, 09:51:41 am
For this brave enough to go exploring the murky depths at the bottom of the gene pool, the vile Keith Peat has been quick to gloat  http://www.driveeastmidlands.com (http://www.driveeastmidlands.com).
Most inspiring - I now feel even more motivated to stick two fingers to anyone wanting to discourage my cycling, or endanger us through their negligence and selfishness  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Chris S on July 21, 2016, 09:54:06 am
For this brave enough to go exploring the murky depths at the bottom of the gene pool, the vile Keith Peat has been quick to gloat  http://www.driveeastmidlands.com (http://www.driveeastmidlands.com).

Ironic that the layout of this blog is itself, something of a car crash. Forget the content (which takes some effort to follow) - it's just a mess.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: mattc on July 21, 2016, 11:01:28 am
I tried to ignore it, but that blog just pulls you in; some bits are hilarious. Here is how he has used the incident where Chris Froome crashed into the back of an official TourDeFrance moto, as evidence for the menace cyclists pose:

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Road Race Cycling is unique in that there is no entrance fee for spectators, unlike other major sports and entertainment events because they are held on long stretches of public road where it isn't possible to control the public.

 What these cyclists forget is, that they are riding vehicles on public roads and that it is their duty to avoid accidents and for their self protection too.

 The principle must be that others must come first and only ride at a speed and distance at which you are able to stop safely. The motorcyclist clearly did exactly that.

 These cyclists, including Froome, failed to apply those rules despite very close and confined conditions which included many members of the public.     

 This crash happened because cyclists were cycling too fast and dangerously among public on public roads. It really is that simple.

It's a race, dude!!!
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: loadsabikes on July 21, 2016, 02:08:12 pm
it defies belief, utter rubbish and totally biased.
we will all carry on riding in remembrance of Carol RIP
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: caerau on July 21, 2016, 05:35:40 pm
It's hard to know what to say about that - so I'll do it in smilies-  >:( >:(   :facepalm: :facepalm: :sick: :sick:


He's a 'regular cyclist' of course  ::-) 


http://www.driversunion.co (http://www.driversunion.co)


Look at the 'team' - all three of them  ::-)


I wish I could unsee all that.


(Well it's very popular apparently ... https://petition.parliament.uk/archived/petitions/5305)



Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: davelodwig on July 21, 2016, 09:57:35 pm
Keith occasionally posts on comment sections of peoples blogs, he's so deluded I'm pretty sure we should be getting him some help it's as if he is short of all of his marbles.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Gattopardo on July 21, 2016, 10:32:52 pm


Can't even be arsed to raise a comment to this deluded moron.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on July 22, 2016, 08:15:37 am
Keith occasionally posts on comment sections of peoples blogs, he's so deluded I'm pretty sure we should be getting him some help it's as if he is short of all of his marbles.
The footer on his website

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© 2023 by Name of Template.

Hilarious. He's like the David Brent of bloggers.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: caerau on July 22, 2016, 10:15:23 am
Yes, he's not worth spending too many thoughts on - though his blog did suck me in yesterday as Mattc commented - strangely compelling in a morbid fascination type way.


Him and Godfrey Bloom (FFS) - they're not going to be shaking the foundations of our transportation policy any time soon.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Redlight on July 22, 2016, 01:18:13 pm
I just feel sorry for the person who has to clean his keyboard  :sick:
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Exit Stage Left on July 22, 2016, 09:36:35 pm
If you're involved with enough cycling events you'll know people who've died on them, or people who are connected, who've died in other cycling circumstances. For all that the health benefits of exercise outweigh the accidents, it doesn't make it any easier.

Chris has been at the centre of cycling long enough to have seen that. It's one thing to rationalise the loss of people you encounter in your career or pastime, another to come to terms with the loss of your own mother in the same pastime.

His appreciation of his mother was very moving.

Let's not forget Keith Boardman, a very valued member of the cycling community, as a participant and coach.

I'm also heartened by the way that Chris's friend, Jens Voigt, has stepped in to fill the void in the Tour coverage.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: hatler on July 23, 2016, 06:52:38 am
For this brave enough to go exploring the murky depths at the bottom of the gene pool, the vile Keith Peat has been quick to gloat  http://www.driveeastmidlands.com (http://www.driveeastmidlands.com).
Good god. An A1 grade certifiable loon. It's not often that one single person (apparently) can generate quite so much contradictory nonsense. Maybe the internet isn't such a good idea. But for the wonders of modern technology people like this would be restricted to wandering the streets wearing a sandwich board.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Moleman76 on July 24, 2016, 06:48:06 am
After looking at that ... well, troglodyte's ... site, the following came to mind (apologies to MattC)

I tried to ignore it, but that blog just pulls you in; some bits are hilarious. Here is how he has used the incident where Chris Froome crashed into the back of an official TourDeFrance moto, as evidence for the menace cyclists pose most motorist crashes into cyclist incidents could be summarized:

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What these cyclmotorists forget is, that they are riddriving vehicles on public roads and that it is their duty to avoid accidents and for their self protection too.

 The principle must be that others must come first and only ride drive at a speed and distance at which you are able to stop safely. The motorcyclist clearly did exactly that.

 These cyclmotorists, including Froome, failed to apply those rules despite very close and confined conditions which included many members of the public.     

 This crash happened because cyclists were cycling too fast and dangerously among public on public roads. It really is that simple.
Title: People charged for boardman's mother's death
Post by: Ham on September 25, 2017, 11:34:56 am
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/25/driver-liam-rosney-court-crash-killed-chris-boardman-mother-carol

Not only the driver for causing death by dangerous driving, but also the couple for attempting to pervert the cause of justice.

Be an interesting one to watch.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Rob.Archer on September 26, 2017, 08:57:41 am
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/sep/25/driver-liam-rosney-court-crash-killed-chris-boardman-mother-carol

Not only the driver for causing death by dangerous driving, but also the couple for attempting to pervert the cause of justice.

Be an interesting one to watch.
It will interesting to compare the eventual outcome of this with the Charlie Alliston case. Will we be looking at a long prison sentence - or a 6 month ban and a derisory fine?

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Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: sg37409 on December 17, 2018, 02:04:07 pm
Breaking news on R4 said the driver has pleaded guilty to causing death by careless driving just before his trial.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Steve GT on January 31, 2019, 02:15:50 pm
30 weeks jail time. >:(

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47071273 (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47071273)
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: ian on February 01, 2019, 10:10:21 am
I'm not clear why it's referred to an 'accident.' Using your phone while driving is a deliberate act.

Anyway, we got the answer, derisory. As Boardman, with admirable restraint, points out there's no other activity than driving that lets us behave so dangerously and face little or no consequence for those actions.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Jakob W on February 01, 2019, 10:56:07 am
I suppose it's a form of Stockholm syndrome that I was surprised he got a custodial sentence at all. What was the perverting the cause of justice charge about for him and his wife (of which they were acquitted) - lying about the phone calls?
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: ian on February 01, 2019, 11:46:07 am
If I recall, they tried to delete their call histories. Nice people. Only stumbled upon remorse when it was explained to them that taking the plea would mean a minimal sentence. I've no idea what the point of putting anyone in prison for 30 weeks is (which will be, what, ten weeks actual time).

I completely agree with Boardman though, it's too late sending people to prison after the fact. But that said, the consistent message from this kind of derisory sentencing, like calling it 'careless driving', is that driving is an activity far removed from the standard expectations of responsibility.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: mattc on February 01, 2019, 02:08:20 pm
If I recall, they tried to delete their call histories. Nice people. Only stumbled upon remorse when it was explained to them that taking the plea would mean a minimal sentence. I've no idea what the point of putting anyone in prison for 30 weeks is (which will be, what, ten weeks actual time).

I completely agree with Boardman though, it's too late sending people to prison after the fact. But that said, the consistent message from this kind of derisory sentencing, like calling it 'careless driving', is that driving is an activity far removed from the standard expectations of responsibility.

Whilst I totally agree with the bolded text, I think you need to have served 10 weeks jail time to comment on its leniency. Would you prefer they chop his phone hand off?
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Si S on February 04, 2019, 12:21:31 pm
If I recall, they tried to delete their call histories. Nice people. Only stumbled upon remorse when it was explained to them that taking the plea would mean a minimal sentence. I've no idea what the point of putting anyone in prison for 30 weeks is (which will be, what, ten weeks actual time).

I completely agree with Boardman though, it's too late sending people to prison after the fact. But that said, the consistent message from this kind of derisory sentencing, like calling it 'careless driving', is that driving is an activity far removed from the standard expectations of responsibility.

Whilst I totally agree with the bolded text, I think you need to have served 10 weeks jail time to comment on its leniency. Would you prefer they chop his phone hand off?

Just his thumbs for a first offence...you can move through an increasing scale of body parts for repeat offences.
Title: Re: Carol Boardman, RIP
Post by: Paul on February 04, 2019, 12:56:07 pm
I've deleted my post to put it in the more appropriate thread.