Author Topic: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods  (Read 4422 times)

CAMRAMan

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Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« on: January 07, 2018, 07:00:58 pm »
When I lived in Sweden in the early '90s, I was amazed to discover that (where I lived in the north, at least) what I called snowballs (chocolate-covered marshmallow with coconut chippings in the chocolate) were widely known as negerbollar - negroes' balls. No one batted an eyelid and thought I was being strange when I expressed my amazement. Apparently the term has been dying out - thankfully - but I was wondering if there are any other similarly inappropriately named foods...
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hellymedic

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2018, 08:06:53 pm »
White mallow/meringue covered in dark chocolate confections are known as
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in Denmark...

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2018, 08:13:39 pm »
Cycki murzynki = Black woman's tits. (There's an ongoing controversy over just how offensive or not the word murzyn is – actually originates from Spanish I think and is analogous to Moor.)
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Andrij

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2018, 10:22:16 pm »
Cycki murzynki = Black woman's tits. (There's an ongoing controversy over just how offensive or not the word murzyn is – actually originates from Spanish I think and is analogous to Moor.)

I'm 99.99% sure that is correct.
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T42

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2018, 08:20:20 am »
Not food, but my Inlaw Maw once asked for a spool of n***er-brown thread in a Kampala shop.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2018, 03:54:53 pm »
I can't find the link now cos search engine (and cos I can't remember the spelling) but some of the above really need to served together with Julian's special queynte cakes.
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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2018, 07:53:10 am »
The chocolate-coated marshmallow confections seem to have similar names all across Germanic Europe - negerzoenen in NL (and presumably in Flanders?), Negerküsse in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland. 'Neger' is closer to 'negro' than to the other epithet, so not quite as offensive; but enough that most or all of the manufacturers have changed the name (to 'Shokoküsse' or the like.) One alternative name is 'Mohrenkopf/moorkop', which means 'Moor's head's; again, I'm not sure whether they are still manufactured as such.

clarion

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2018, 01:49:15 pm »
Not racial, but almost certainly offensive to a lot of people, one can pay to get the benefit of a nun's fart in France.
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clarion

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2018, 01:50:17 pm »
Slightly OT, I have often wondered why Arnie's surname did not raise more eyebrows in liberal California...
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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2018, 02:12:52 pm »
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No, the etymology of Schwarzenegger has SFA to do with the n-word.

https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/etymology-of-the-name-schwarzenegger.2153532/

HTH.

PS - any state that elects to the House of Representatives people like Devin Nunes, Dana Rohrabacher and Darrell Issa can't be said to be completely liberal.

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clarion

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2018, 03:06:05 pm »
Oh, I am aware the derivation is innocent, but the product is...questionable.

And, yeah, I should have used quotation marks around 'liberal'.  Liberal for Americania...
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CAMRAMan

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2018, 07:10:18 pm »
In Hungary they have Negro cough sweets, which are black in colour. Research seems to rule out a dodgy connection; the product name being the surname of the recipe's creator.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2018, 10:13:21 am »
Cycki murzynki = Black woman's tits. (There's an ongoing controversy over just how offensive or not the word murzyn is – actually originates from Spanish I think and is analogous to Moor.)

I'm 99.99% sure that is correct.
I was watching an old (1983) Polish TV series last weekend, in one scene an engineer was practising English to prepare for hosting a Moroccan trade delegate. His wife criticised his accent. "That doesn't matter," he replied, "the Moroccans all have dreadful accents."
"Yes," she said, "but you sound like a murzyn."
I'm not sure whether this was simply 1980s Soviet Bloc casual racism or something cleverer and more deliberate (probably the latter).

Ob food: They cooked the Moroccan a North African recipe they found, but they didn't have lamb or couscous so had to use beef and barley instead. He liked it anyway (and of course spoke fluent Polish).
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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2018, 06:54:51 am »
We always buy mints in france called 'Vag Fresh'. Never fails to amuse.
I hope they are mints, anyway.
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Aunt Maud

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2018, 08:30:27 am »
Negerboller and negerkys were also sold in Denmark.


hillbilly

Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2018, 10:09:25 am »
It’s not just foreign foods.

Minstrels are a tad racist. Unless you think naming a brown sweet after blacked up music hall performers is culturally appropriate.

Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2018, 10:29:42 am »
Yeah, I went into a castle the other week, and THEY had a bloody minstrel's gallery. Bloody racists.

hillbilly

Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2018, 05:31:56 pm »
In the UK we also have Black Jack aniseed chews.  For some reason they changed the wrappers and dropped the s since I was in short trousers.



Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2018, 10:22:14 pm »
When I went to school black Jack's were 8 for 1p  :)
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hellymedic

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2018, 10:56:11 pm »
When I went to school black Jack's were 8 for 1p  :)

They were 8 for 1d when I went to school...

T42

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2018, 08:59:14 am »
;D Took the words out of my fingers.
I've dusted all those old bottles and set them up straight.

Tigerrr

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2018, 11:40:56 am »
It’s not just foreign foods.

Minstrels are a tad racist. Unless you think naming a brown sweet after blacked up music hall performers is culturally appropriate.

You know here were minstrels in the middle ages don't you? They dressed colourfully -often in harlequin, or bright colours - Will Scarlet for example, who fought bravely alongside Robin hood with his lute and bow.
Have you looked in a packet of minstrels - they are all colours - like minstrels clothes!
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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2018, 11:53:59 am »
Have you looked in a packet of minstrels - they are all colours

Have you?
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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2018, 11:54:39 am »
It’s not just foreign foods.

Minstrels are a tad racist. Unless you think naming a brown sweet after blacked up music hall performers is culturally appropriate.

You know here were minstrels in the middle ages don't you? They dressed colourfully -often in harlequin, or bright colours - Will Scarlet for example, who fought bravely alongside Robin hood with his lute and bow.
Have you looked in a packet of minstrels - they are all colours - like minstrels clothes!

Sure you're not confusing them with Skittles or Smarties or M&Ms?

Minstrels are chocolate both inside and out.

hellymedic

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Re: Politically Incorrectly-Named Foreign Foods
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2018, 12:12:28 pm »
I have not partaken of these sweeties of late. They were mostly called Treets when I were a lass.

My recollection is that Minstrels are large. dark brown discoid sugar shells with a milk chocolate centre. I think the shell has a white layer.

M&Ms are smaller and have gaudy primary colours.