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Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #125 on: October 22, 2019, 09:30:25 am »
I've completed Madrid Gijon Madrid in August/2018. Is it enough to qualify for the 184 hours group? I'm in doubt about what means "2018/2019 season":

1 - an ACP season 2018/2019 (the one that begins in November/18 and finishes in October/2019); or...

2 - two full years (2018 and 2019 - 24 months).

Your best bet is to contact the organisers on this, before committing to pre registration etc.. Contact them through the website or FB page. I think it's likely they'd be fine with it, but I'm not the one enforcing the entry rules.

Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #126 on: October 22, 2019, 10:04:26 am »
I've completed Madrid Gijon Madrid in August/2018. Is it enough to qualify for the 184 hours group? I'm in doubt about what means "2018/2019 season":

1 - an ACP season 2018/2019 (the one that begins in November/18 and finishes in October/2019); or...

2 - two full years (2018 and 2019 - 24 months).
I think the 2018/19 season goes from 1/11/2018 to 31/10/2019 (ACP year). I dont see how a season could be interpreted as two full years. If they meant that they would just have said completed in 2018/19 with no mention of a season. Still no harm in asking if they will let you enter.
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Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #127 on: October 22, 2019, 04:52:15 pm »
For general questions about the event and rules, I recommend the Facebook group Wild Atlantic Way Audax. The event organisers regularly check posts there, and answer questions.

Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #128 on: October 26, 2019, 04:57:05 pm »
Note the qualifying SR can now be from 2018, 2019 or 2020

Also

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Randonneurs who don't have the qualifying rides but feel they have the chops to take on this event can contact the Organizer and plead their case. If you have the legs, you will be welcome "

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Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #129 on: October 26, 2019, 05:21:44 pm »
Thanks for that Phil!

I shall slide it back into my provisional calendar ... :)

For my reference:
1. Thu 25th June - Sat 4th July   The Raid version: Average 240km a day.  Likely to be a case of making your own sleeping arrangements most days, and pass through a few of the shared sleeping / shelter controls with
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https://www.wawaudax.com/the-event.html

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Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #130 on: October 27, 2019, 12:46:21 pm »
Note the qualifying SR can now be from 2018, 2019 or 2020

Also

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Randonneurs who don't have the qualifying rides but feel they have the chops to take on this event can contact the Organizer and plead their case. If you have the legs, you will be welcome "

This is good to hear  8) I've done nothing this year due to two trips to the major trauma unit in the space of 5 months after RTA's and 2018 was no better due to a family bereavement in 2017 so I had all but given up riding WAWA this time . I was planning on pleading my case when entries closed on the off chance that it wasn't over subscribed and hoping the organisers might fall soft and let me in but I will get my begging letter off today then start spamming Eamon on Farcebook  ;D

Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #131 on: November 08, 2019, 03:52:30 pm »
So who is pre registered now, and which version have you registered for? I'll be on the 220 hour version.

 

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Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #132 on: November 08, 2019, 04:03:14 pm »
220

Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #133 on: November 08, 2019, 07:50:18 pm »
Yep, on the 220.

Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #134 on: November 08, 2019, 10:03:55 pm »
I'm in - 220.
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Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #135 on: November 09, 2019, 07:06:49 am »
220. The diet starts, err, tomorrow!

Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #136 on: November 09, 2019, 08:49:02 am »
unfinished business so the 184 hour for me

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Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #137 on: November 13, 2019, 04:29:35 pm »
Has anyone that rode it in 2016 got a GPS recording preferably with Barometric elevation but "uncorrected" GPS would do?
I'm mostly interested in the section from Dingle to Galway because the plan shared on the WAWA facebook group and the meters climbed in the RWGPS map don't seem to match what I would expect.
(Two of the shortest full days and the least amount of climbing...)

Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #138 on: November 13, 2019, 04:46:12 pm »
I'll see if I can dig out my tracklogs from 16 but in the meantime.

After Dingle, assuming you have already done the loop around Slea Head.

The climb up to Conor pass is pretty long, but fairly straight gently curving to the right.  Down the other side you have a few hairpins at stupid gradients then lower down the road straightens and you can let the speed build.  Over to Ballyheigue is rolling but nothing too long, nothing too steep, nothing to shout about. 

From Ballyheigue to the ferry terminal at Tarbet is pretty flat.  Similarly flattish Killimer to Kilrush though the stonking headwind and rain in 2016 may have distracted me from any gradients. But nothing memorable hill wise.

Kilrush to Loop Head lighthouse is pretty flat apart from the climb up to the lighthouse which is fairly long and has some decent gradients.  Riding to Loophead you turn directly into the west and you may grind to a halt with the headwind.  From the village at the bottom, there a good pub for lunch, and then hopefully you'll now have a tailwind pushing you onwards. From there to Liscannor is fairly benign rolling terrain, again nothing to shout about.  It's then a decent climb up to the Cliffs of Moher. From there you descend through the Burren to Ballyvaughan.

From Ballyvaughan you have some decent pulls over a couple of hills and then it flattens again as you approach Oranmore. From there to Galway is pretty flat. It was dark when I crossed these final hills before the Oranmore control. So I may be underestimating the number of ups and downs but a couple of main ones feels about right.  No stupid gradients.

If I was to summarise the climbing of 2016 on the 300km a day schedule

1. Fuck my legs
2. Fuck my legs
3. This is alright
4. This is alright
5. This is alright
6. Fuck my legs.
7. Fuck my legs.

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Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #139 on: November 13, 2019, 05:03:50 pm »
Hm, thanks
All the more interesting that that section should be planned by Seaumus as short distance days.
Based on what I see in RWGPS and your description I'd have thought that they would be days where you could in theory pick up a bit of time with a 300km day if the weather is favourable.



I'm also exploring 1:1 gearing options...

Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #140 on: November 13, 2019, 06:06:36 pm »
Seen the schedule on FB now.

The leg to Dingle has Healy Pass, Ring of Kerry, plus numerous other hills.  So that'll be a long day from Bantry.  He's not doing Slea Head before stopping at Dingle so he'll have the hills on that loop to add to day 3. There's a ferry at Tarbet, last sailing 9:30pm and Kilrush is a provided sleep control. So a short distance day after the leg to Dingle makes sense, and allows for breakfast after a loop of Slea Head. I have the same planned for that.

Kilrush to Oranmore. Personally I plan to push on to the other side of Galway giving a shorter next day to Westport. Seamus may be staying with friends in Oranmore.

Belmullet to Bundoran. I'd agree with this, and it's what I plan to do. But I'm hoping to complete the Blacksod light house loop before settling down to sleep. Seamus schedule has him doing Blacksod in the morning after a sleep at Belmullet. The section out to Blacksod isn't hilly but my god the wind. Think I was reduced to 12km/h moving in the headwind last time, though I flew back to Belmullet surfing the storm.

Dunfanaghy to Greencastle.  I had that as a push through to the finish day but stopping a bit short, once past the Mamore Gap and Malin Head, does have its attractions. Plus I haven't looked at ferry timings on that leg. The ferry may dictate a shorter day unless you want some night riding.

Some of it will depend what time of day he intends to start each day and when he needs to have reached his B&B by.  The wind will be the biggest determinate of how well or not your plan goes against its schedule.

Seamus' schedule is to give you an outline , you don't have to stick to the same rigidly, but it gives you a starter for 10.

I plan to make full use of the sleep controls provided, you may opt for a different plan.

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Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #141 on: November 13, 2019, 06:50:34 pm »
Thanks, food for thought.

So recovery after 2 hard days and the shannon ferry timetable.
I was worried that RWGPS was hiding a significant amount of climbing,

I gave the example of South Loch Tay being 80m less in RWGPS than Strava's crowd sourced barometric data over 27km; lots of little undulations along there, not unlike a coastal road really.

I was thinking the loops are ideal for getting options along the way provided you work your time on the basis that you'll do them in the morning.


I plan to take as much advantage of the "free" stuff as possible, so the hotel meals and the sleep stops. The sight seeing tickets on the other hand...

Not sure why I didn't see your 7 day summary before!
Might have been blocked at work  :P

I think I'll need to get hitting the 9 hills from hell loop pretty soon after the frosts and ice goes.

Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #142 on: November 14, 2019, 12:54:20 pm »
Thanks, food for thought.

So recovery after 2 hard days and the shannon ferry timetable.
I was worried that RWGPS was hiding a significant amount of climbing,

Essentially yes.  Bantry would not be too bad if the first day started at 6:00am.   But the 9:00am start means it's a fair push to reach a B&B or Hotel in Bantry not too late in the day.  The second day to Dingle will be a good test of the legs. If you wanted a shorter second day you should stop at Castlemaine or Inch then have a longer third day.

Here's Healy Pass looking back south



This is the bastard hill you'll encounter on day 2, steep, off camber, and a good test of your legs and gearing



But you do get a fantastic fast descent the other side.



For day 3 I have an early start planned, the loop round Slea Head,  then breakfast back in Dingle, before heading up Conor Pass. 

The ferry at Rathmullan doesn't run till 09:40am; so that'll dictate your start time for the day that covers Mamore Gap and Malin head.  The terrain in Donegal offers both steep and long; lots to get your teeth into. So don't expect to fly along that section.

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I think I'll need to get hitting the 9 hills from hell loop pretty soon after the frosts and ice goes.

Yep, I did a lot of hill work in 2016. A single SR series, plus lots of hillier shorter rides.

Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #143 on: November 14, 2019, 01:08:18 pm »
Thanks, food for thought.

So recovery after 2 hard days and the shannon ferry timetable.
I was worried that RWGPS was hiding a significant amount of climbing,

Essentially yes.  Bantry would not be too bad if the first day started at 6:00am.   But the 9:00am start means it's a fair push to reach a B&B or Hotel in Bantry not too late in the day.  The second day to Dingle will be a good test of the legs. If you wanted a shorter second day you should stop at Castlemaine or Inch then have a longer third day.

Here's Healy Pass looking back south



For day 3 I have an early start planned, the loop round Slea Head,  then breakfast back in Dingle, before heading up Conor Pass. 

The ferry at Rathmullan doesn't run till 09:40am; so that'll dictate your start time for the day that covers Mamore Gap and Malin head.  The terrain in Donegal offers both steep and long; lots to get your teeth into. So don't expect to fly along that section.

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I think I'll need to get hitting the 9 hills from hell loop pretty soon after the frosts and ice goes.

Yep, I did a lot of hill work in 2016. A single SR series, plus lots of hillier shorter rides.

Also short and sharp too, The wind could also be a factor around Mamore/Malin head. As i quite often visit my mum who lives in that section I usually try and take the bike with me (and often wish i didn't) and usually find it's always a strong NW blowing with very little shelter to be had anywhere.

Strava data (with some pics of the gap) from last time i was over..https://www.strava.com/activities/2301329312
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Re: Wild Atlantic Way Audax 2020
« Reply #144 on: November 14, 2019, 01:13:51 pm »
I'd be surprised if the wind doesn't make itself known most days.  It certainly had its moments in 2016.  Loophead lighthouse and Blacksod lighthouse are probably the worst days for wind that I remember.  Loophead is top of a long hill; at least Blacksod is relatively flat approach. Absolutely crawling into the wind.  Achil Island not too bad, but do remember almost losing my cap to the wind.