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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2019, 03:45:13 pm »
I have just watched bits of a YouTube video made by Idai Makaya, riding PBP 2015 on his Elliptigo bike. It looks very much as though he, and his comanions, are using the same Ergon grips that I have. They obviously got through the bike check.

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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2019, 05:56:50 pm »
I have just watched bits of a YouTube video made by Idai Makaya, riding PBP 2015 on his Elliptigo bike. It looks very much as though he, and his comanions, are using the same Ergon grips that I have. They obviously got through the bike check.

Isn't there a different set of rules for recumbents etc starting in the special group?  You see plenty of them on PBP and almost none of them have drop handlebars.
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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2019, 06:24:59 pm »
In theory, no difference. In practice, the French are pragmatic at PBP.
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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2019, 08:00:55 pm »
The intent of the number of wheels limit is to prevent rollerbladers and suchlike from participating. Same for the 'chain drive' requirement after Alpo on the Kickbike at PBP03. Belt drive bikes were nodded through, of course.
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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2019, 08:21:41 pm »
Only one high bicycle has ever ridden PBP, back before audax or randonneuring existed and the time limit was 10 days then. It would be a real athletic feat to do PBP on one. The End to End record is a little over five days, so doing not too much less distance in under 90 hours is a bit of an ask, even with better roads. If somebody entered who had a decent chance of actually doing it, the organisers would cheer them on.
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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2019, 08:55:42 pm »
The chain drive requirement would rule out rollerbladers whatever the number of wheels though.
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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #31 on: January 11, 2019, 10:52:51 pm »
I don't understand 'draft legal clip ons' link to example appreciated.

Short stubby ones like these:



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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2019, 03:41:05 pm »
The chain drive requirement would rule out rollerbladers whatever the number of wheels though.

there was (at least) one who've done it on a kick scooter - no chain drive. perhaps a personal exception?

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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2019, 03:42:07 pm »
The intent of the number of wheels limit is to prevent rollerbladers and suchlike from participating. Same for the 'chain drive' requirement after Alpo on the Kickbike at PBP03. Belt drive bikes were nodded through, of course.
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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2019, 11:26:49 am »
Can anyone link me what they believe would be legal for PBP 2019 and would fit 26mm handlebars, please and thank you.  Having a hard time finding anything for 26mm.

Re: Handlebars
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2019, 01:26:55 pm »
Can anyone link me what they believe would be legal for PBP 2019 and would fit 26mm handlebars, please and thank you.  Having a hard time finding anything for 26mm.

I’m going to try 3TTT Tiramisu bars from Planet X on my 26mm bars. They’re basically imitation Spinaci bars.

Re: Handlebars
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2019, 02:27:56 pm »
Can anyone link me what they believe would be legal for PBP 2019 and would fit 26mm handlebars, please and thank you.  Having a hard time finding anything for 26mm.
You may have to shim up x 2 to 31.8 for much choice.

LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #37 on: January 24, 2019, 11:07:54 pm »
Can anyone link me what they believe would be legal for PBP 2019 and would fit 26mm handlebars, please and thank you.  Having a hard time finding anything for 26mm.

The normal Cinelli Spinaci or TTT Tiramisu don't have connected ends, so they need a separate bridge to join them.
https://www.bricklanebikes.co.uk/itm-handlebar-end-bull-horns-silver
https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HB3TTIRA/3ttt-tiramisu-bar-extensions
are easily available but you'll need to bodge a bridge.

or

Find a set of proper Spinaci and fit a bridge like
https://www.bricklanebikes.co.uk/cinelli-pollicino

Otherwise you could track down a Cinelli Euro Spinaci but they were rare.
https://www.kaidee.com/product-136397560
or even Cinelli Spinacissimi, but they might be too long.
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-cinelli-spinaci-bar-130865330
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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2019, 06:36:10 am »
This is something that wasn’t clear in the regs. Do they have to have connectors?

LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #39 on: January 25, 2019, 07:12:25 am »
The connector thing for draft-legal bars is based on the comment upthread that it is the same as for triathlons, which at least would be justifiable consistency. I don't actually know whether the PBP bikecheckers would reject unconnected Spinaci bars.

https://www.britishtriathlon.org/britain/documents/events/performance-events/draft-legal-events-bike-setup-guidance-v9.pdf
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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #40 on: January 25, 2019, 12:31:07 pm »
Can anyone link me what they believe would be legal for PBP 2019 and would fit 26mm handlebars, please and thank you.  Having a hard time finding anything for 26mm.

The normal Cinelli Spinaci or TTT Tiramisu don't have connected ends, so they need a separate bridge to join them.
https://www.bricklanebikes.co.uk/itm-handlebar-end-bull-horns-silver
https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HB3TTIRA/3ttt-tiramisu-bar-extensions
are easily available but you'll need to bodge a bridge.

or

Find a set of proper Spinaci and fit a bridge like
https://www.bricklanebikes.co.uk/cinelli-pollicino

Otherwise you could track down a Cinelli Spinaci Euro but they were rare.
https://www.kaidee.com/product-136397560
or even
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-cinelli-spinaci-bar-130865330
but they might be too long.

Awesome, many thanks for all the suggestions.  Let the investigation commence!

Re: Handlebars
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2019, 12:25:09 pm »
Anyone fitted these short bars?  Not convinced they'd work for me.

LittleWheelsandBig

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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2019, 04:26:44 pm »
I found titchy aerobars more trouble than they are worth when I tried them a couple of decades ago but I am >180cm tall with forearms to suit and prefer to have the pads close to my elbows. An Oompa Loompa would probably like the little ones though.
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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2019, 10:28:07 am »

https://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/HB3TTIRA/3ttt-tiramisu-bar-extensions
are easily available but you'll need to bodge a bridge.


Currently £5. Worth a punt.

Although I notice it states quite a small clamp diameter. Suck it and see.

Re: Handlebars
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2019, 10:32:53 am »
I found titchy aerobars more trouble than they are worth when I tried them a couple of decades ago but I am >180cm tall with forearms to suit and prefer to have the pads close to my elbows. An Oompa Loompa would probably like the little ones though.

Yes I have long limbs as well and suspect that to put my wrists on the pads would be very awkward indeed.

Re: Handlebars
« Reply #45 on: February 02, 2019, 12:51:33 pm »
Well,as I’m too sniffly to be doing Benjamin Allen’s Spring Tonic, I’ve had a little tinker with the trike.

It’s now sporting Tiramisu bars! They are very short. I’ve not ridden with them yet, but the advantage of the trike is it’s very easy to hop on and see how they feel. I suspect they’ll be most comfy if I don’t hold them, but rest my wrists on the ends, kinda like the ‘virtual bars’ position people used, but with a bit more support. I’m definitely going to need to double wrap my bars, but I was planning on doing that anyway.

When I’ve had a play I’ll report back.

They will be very useful for supporting a couple of feed bags, so they may stay on even if it’s only for that purpose.

Re: Handlebars
« Reply #46 on: February 02, 2019, 01:22:55 pm »
It always makes me nervous when I see pros using the "virtual aero bars" position at the front of the Tour de France peleton.

I wonder if ACP are allowing these short aero bars to avoid potential catastrophe due to riders not actually holding on to anything and maybe bringing a massive bunch down if they hit a pothole?

I might try some myself. I had full size aero bars on in the 1991 PBP, the last time they were allowed, but one of the bolts holding an arm pad snapped early on, so the aero bars became a non-aero luggage rack for the rest of the ride.



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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #48 on: February 28, 2019, 10:15:43 pm »
The t3+ appears to be discontinued, can't find it for sale anywhere  :-[

The Pro Missile (three versions) is similar though, with a separate clamp for the armrests.

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Re: Handlebars
« Reply #49 on: February 28, 2019, 10:29:27 pm »
This is what I'm planning. Deda Parabolica. I bought an extra set off ebay so that I could use 2 clamps on 1 set and put the pads just behind the bars.

It's a bit tight and compromised but works for me.

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