Author Topic: PBP hi viz vest  (Read 5460 times)

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #125 on: April 08, 2019, 06:34:16 pm »
They changed the rules a few years ago so batter power is now acceptable for all bikes. And trikes, I presume.
Batter power: what you need when it's as flat as a pancake.  :facepalm:
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FifeingEejit

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #126 on: April 08, 2019, 08:45:45 pm »
They changed the rules a few years ago so batter power is now acceptable for all bikes. And trikes, I presume.

Yeah, fitting dynamos to e-bikes was getting daft.

Ah missed that as I've not read B&M marketing bumpf for a Battery light since I got a hub generator.

Kim

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #127 on: April 08, 2019, 09:53:07 pm »
They changed the rules a few years ago so batter power is now acceptable for all bikes. And trikes, I presume.

Yeah, fitting dynamos to e-bikes was getting daft.

Ah missed that as I've not read B&M marketing bumpf for a Battery light since I got a hub generator.

E-bike lights are honorary dynamo lights in all the ways that count (fit and forget, robust design).  And if you're going to lug a whopping great battery around, it makes sense to power the lights from it.
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FifeingEejit

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #128 on: April 08, 2019, 10:36:54 pm »
They changed the rules a few years ago so batter power is now acceptable for all bikes. And trikes, I presume.

Yeah, fitting dynamos to e-bikes was getting daft.

Ah missed that as I've not read B&M marketing bumpf for a Battery light since I got a hub generator.

E-bike lights are honorary dynamo lights in all the ways that count (fit and forget, robust design).  And if you're going to lug a whopping great battery around, it makes sense to power the lights from it.

Aye but the bumpf used to mention the 10kg limit in StVzO but no longer does, just says the battery lights comply with it.

quixoticgeek

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #129 on: April 09, 2019, 01:46:48 am »
They changed the rules a few years ago so batter power is now acceptable for all bikes. And trikes, I presume.
Batter power: what you need when it's as flat as a pancake.  :facepalm:

Oh? What's the logic in that?

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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #130 on: April 09, 2019, 09:07:25 am »
They changed the rules a few years ago so batter power is now acceptable for all bikes. And trikes, I presume.
Batter power: what you need when it's as flat as a pancake.  :facepalm:

Oh? What's the logic in that?

J
Presuming you mean the logic in changing the rules to allow battery lights, I think it was just accepting reality. In technological terms, the ubiquity of the LED means you can get more light from batteries now than you could from dynamos in the past and the batteries last long enough not to be a problem. And in practical terms, everyone was using them anyway, and better to have battery lights than none. Possibly also commercial pressure from B&M in order to better access other markets?
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quixoticgeek

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #131 on: April 09, 2019, 09:42:35 am »
They changed the rules a few years ago so batter power is now acceptable for all bikes. And trikes, I presume.
Batter power: what you need when it's as flat as a pancake.  :facepalm:

Oh? What's the logic in that?

J
Presuming you mean the logic in changing the rules to allow battery lights, I think it was just accepting reality. In technological terms, the ubiquity of the LED means you can get more light from batteries now than you could from dynamos in the past and the batteries last long enough not to be a problem. And in practical terms, everyone was using them anyway, and better to have battery lights than none. Possibly also commercial pressure from B&M in order to better access other markets?

I was actually asking about the dynamo use in very flat terrain...

J
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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #132 on: April 09, 2019, 09:55:34 am »
They changed the rules a few years ago so batter power is now acceptable for all bikes. And trikes, I presume.
Batter power: what you need when it's as flat as a pancake.  :facepalm:

Oh? What's the logic in that?

J
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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #133 on: April 09, 2019, 11:30:08 am »
Its a pun based on the typo
And an excellent opportunist typo exploitation, appreciated silently (well maybe a sotto voce chuckle) by many, no doubt.

Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #134 on: April 09, 2019, 12:02:13 pm »
Its a pun based on the typo
And excellent opportunist typo exploitation, appreciated silently (well maybe a sotto voce chuckle) by many, no doubt.

Indeed it was appreciated thus!

mattc

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #135 on: April 09, 2019, 12:37:31 pm »
Pfft. I've seen batter typos than that.
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wilkyboy

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #136 on: April 09, 2019, 10:43:24 pm »
And back to batteries and dynamos ... although all my road bikes have dynamos (well, I have two dyno wheels, one black one silver, and swap as necessary for colour-coordination), my MTB does not.  I simply don't go fast enough when I'm riding it in Wales — there's no point riding it in the bit of England where I's live.  I have been VERY impressed with these cheap lights off Amanoz —

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0765SV34Z/

Gives about 7 hours on low-setting, which is actually more than enough light for relaxed road-riding, certainly in a group.  And costs less than a tenner.  And doesn't weigh enough to worry about.

I also use it riding forest trails in Wales, although I do tend to ride with a Blackburn Super Flea augmented with a Cree monster on my helmet for the technical bits.

The technology has all greatly moved on from when I had a mahoosive Specialized halogen light with four C-sized batteries to power it.  If I was starting again from scratch, I would definitely consider just battery lights and a power pack.  It's only cuz I already have dyno wheels that I'll keep using them — and the light I get from my IQ2 Cyo is superb.
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wilkyboy

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #137 on: April 09, 2019, 10:45:16 pm »
Venice 1968 implemented 1977

Interesting.  So ... French rules for French cyclists only, then?  :thumbsup:
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FifeingEejit

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #138 on: April 10, 2019, 12:41:46 am »
Venice 1968 implemented 1977

Interesting.  So ... French rules for French cyclists only, then?  :thumbsup:

Wikis---ica summary:
The vehicle must meet all technical requirements to be legal for road use in the country of registration. Any conflicting technical requirements (e.g., right-hand-drive or left-hand-drive) in the signatory country where the vehicle is being driven do not apply.

But... Cycles aren't registered...
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