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Hummers

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Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2008, 01:54:35 pm »
Fifteen pints of wife-beater and a greasy kebab.


Seeing as you're a vagitinarian, I can only imagine that you are referring to some frightful sexual practice involving chilli sauce and mayonaise.

Oh gosh.

H

Tiger

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #26 on: April 14, 2008, 02:44:02 pm »
I am quite advanced now in my own alcohol based training regime..

I have been rehydrating with copious beer and wine since July of last year  and I am anticipating that shortly I will start to shed weight and feel more vigorous.

Obviously 'no pain no gain' and at this stage in the programme I am merely flabbier and weaker but that is to be expected.  This is the 'energy loading' phase - which will be followed by the 'energy release' phase when I will be able to summon prodigious calorific power from the hydrocarbons layed down in my tissues.

Initial attempts to trigger energy release through riding have been problematic. Hills have provoked the sensation of an exploding head,  copious sweating and an erratic heartbeat with tingling fingers...

One of the side effects of the programme is the desire to abandon it in the morning but this has usually gone by the evening when it can be resumed with enthusiasm.

I suspect the programme may need tweaking a bit.

Adam

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Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2008, 02:50:10 pm »
Fifteen pints of wife-beater and a greasy kebab.


Seeing as you're a vagitinarian, I can only imagine that you are referring to some frightful sexual practice involving chilli sauce and mayonaise.

Oh gosh.

H

That's a good word (could be a bit of a mouthful though).
“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving.” -Albert Einstein

Hummers

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Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #28 on: April 14, 2008, 05:13:55 pm »
I am quite advanced now in my own alcohol based training regime..

I have been rehydrating with copious beer and wine since July of last year  and I am anticipating that shortly I will start to shed weight and feel more vigorous.

Obviously 'no pain no gain' and at this stage in the programme I am merely flabbier and weaker but that is to be expected.  This is the 'energy loading' phase - which will be followed by the 'energy release' phase when I will be able to summon prodigious calorific power from the hydrocarbons layed down in my tissues.

Initial attempts to trigger energy release through riding have been problematic. Hills have provoked the sensation of an exploding head,  copious sweating and an erratic heartbeat with tingling fingers...

One of the side effects of the programme is the desire to abandon it in the morning but this has usually gone by the evening when it can be resumed with enthusiasm.

I suspect the programme may need tweaking a bit.

Try carrying a hip flask.

Hope this helps.

H

Maladict

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #29 on: April 14, 2008, 05:26:09 pm »
I've taken up some of the slack by having bought two 500ml bottles of Budweiser Budvar last night.  I dealt with one of them at the time.

Probably my 3rd alcomaholic drink of the year.

Jakob

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2008, 05:40:36 pm »
Cutting back was one of the best things I ever did to my self..even stopping smoking probably ranks below that.
It was still around or below the guideline max 21 units, but it was consistent. Saturday getting drunk, Sunday hungover.
After kendo, it was always 3 quick pints and I would drink them fairly quickly. (before the pub closed!).
Got dared into a  2 week break from alcohol and was amazed at how tough that was and then decided to change.
Now, I will occasionally creep up to 14-16 units in a week, usually it's less than 10...and it did wonders for my health.
Digestion is better, sleep is better, fitness is better, weight is lower and I recover faster after exercise.
 What has helped, is also that my tolerance for alcohol has dropped as well. I'll get severe hangovers from sometimes very little, which suggests to me that my body doesn't like 'something', which may or may not be the alcohol itself.

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2008, 05:46:09 pm »
I monitor my weight daily (just to see trends) and I notice that a 'night out' adds a kilo over two days.  Why does it take so long???

I'm often a few pounds lighter the morning after the night before - possibly due to extreme dehydration and the cathartic effect of a large bag of spicy chicken wings.

3 days later I'm a few pounds heavier, rehydrated and full of salty greasy hangover cure.

I'm hoping for an august 600 so I'm going to need to keep the home brew for the weekend and stop cracking a bottle open every night. I'm sure my knees have noticed the extra stone or so this year.

Wascally Weasel

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Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2008, 10:37:38 am »
I'm still being a Beast.

Ever since I hit upon beer related carohydrate replacement therapy that is.  I'm cutting back on red wine a bit (although it's probably a Bad Thing that at Festung Weasel, cuting back on wine is considered as not opening the second bottle).

Might have to slack off a wee bit though as I'm hoping to lose a bit of weight before the Marmotte in July (got the Etape Caledonia and the Dragon Ride on the run up to it too).

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2008, 11:05:53 am »
I was punished yesterday for an afternoon glass of wine. Mr Mac had finished an exam he's been studying for for the last three months, so we took the small Mac to the pub (hurrah for smoke free!) for a celebratory (single) glass at 4pm.

One hour later = cracking headache. What's that all about? So unfair!  >:(
I was very good though and went for paracetamol rather than hair of the dog.

(And welcome back, WW!)

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #34 on: April 17, 2008, 08:49:56 pm »
Cutting back is stricktly against my life's philosophy.
I'd urge you all to do more.
But, I have different priorities.
Cycling comes first. I never deliberately cut back on that, unless I am preparing for a big ride.
Drinking is just one of the peripheral pleasures. I don't cut back, but never realy have to. Total booze consumption for the year so far would be average out at no more than a pint of beer a week plus about 3 bottles of wine. Thats since Jan 1st. I don't often have time, and usualy have to be in condition to go to work or for a good long bike ride.
I'd encourage you to re-prioritise, rather than deny youself of pleasure.
Cycling come first. It's enjoyable in itself. It gets more enjoyable the more you do it, as you get fitter.
The added fitness enhances your enjoyment of everything else. Music sounds better, food tastes better and you can eat more of it because you are using up more calories. It also reduces stress.
Concentrate on your cycling and everything else just falls into place.

border-rider

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2008, 08:53:02 pm »
Total booze consumption for the year so far would be average out at no more than a pint of beer a week plus about 3 bottles of wine

Sounds about right ;)

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2008, 09:08:55 pm »
I've been on the wagon for about 8 weeks now.  I'm a scotch drinker and prior to stopping had been having a tall glass most evenings prior to going to bed.  A heavy session with the lads from the council depot I used to work in was the straw that broke the camel's back so to speak, as I was just so frustrated at wasting the entire weekend following with a sore head.

I can't really say I feel a lot better for it, but am conscious of the cumulative damage that can be done from drinking scotch regularly, so a break can't be a bad idea.

I finish my tenure as captain of the local rowing club in just over two weeks with a big race, so will probably regress slightly at the post-race party...

AC

'Accumulating kilometres in the roughest road conditions'...

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2008, 09:15:29 pm »
I'd encourage you to re-prioritise, rather than deny youself of pleasure.

Exactly. Cutting back != cutting out.
"Yes please" said Squirrel "biscuits are our favourite things."

Hummers

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Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2008, 09:26:19 pm »
I'd encourage you to re-prioritise, rather than deny youself of pleasure.

Good point.

Denying youself of something without good reason leads to resentment and is unsustainable. Any change you make can only be affective long term if it is part of a change in the pattern of your life. In that sense, cutting back on the booze is tougher if socialising is a major part of your life although that shouldn't be an excuse for binge drinking. I think the casues for that lie elsewhere.

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Concentrate on your cycling and everything else just falls into place.

You know, I ran this philosophy past Mrs H. I can't quite remember exactly what she said but it fell short of a nod of accordance by some margin.  :o

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Total booze consumption for the year so far would be average out at no more than a pint of beer a week plus about 3 bottles of wine. Thats since Jan 1st.

I did wonder if your remembered that the calendar year started on the1st Jan and not the 1st November, Steve  ;)

H

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2008, 09:46:07 pm »
I can't help but think that your sentiments here are somewhat at odd with those expressed in this thread...

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Concentrate on your cycling and everything else just falls into place.

You know, I ran this philosophy past Mrs H. I can't quite remember exactly what she said but it fell short of a nod of accordance by some margin.  :o
;D
Let your mind unravel ... down that road you're travellin' ...

Hummers

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Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #40 on: April 17, 2008, 09:55:47 pm »
I can't help but think that your sentiments here are somewhat at odd with those expressed in this thread...


I refer the learned Scampi to the OP of this thread.

Calendar boozing events are to be sacrosanct.

H

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2008, 05:10:14 pm »
Denying youself of something without good reason leads to resentment and is unsustainable. Any change you make can only be affective long term if it is part of a change in the pattern of your life.

Yeah.

I find myself at war with the whole thing. And have been for some time now.

Giving up smoking was fine. After 20 yrs of heavy Ducados indulgence [sigh....marvelous smoke] I knew the party was over and had to pack up. Hitting 40 and starting to hear the lungs and chest begin to wease was the obvious realisation that I needed to get out now or I was trouble. Struggling to get up stairs at 60 was not where Iwanted to be heading. That was 7 yrs ago. Yr 1 was taken up obsessing about it all day. Yr 2 less so. And then gradually, it faded. Mercifully. Job done.

That left me just booze. Booze, especially beer, and most specifically darkish real ale around the 4% -  4.5%. I adore it. But like all these things, there's always a price for taking too much enjoyment.

Problem is, I have no off button. So, when in the mood, particularly after a dirty,dusty, grubby day/ week at work the taste of a quality beer is just the signal my body has been waiting for to go into the 'ON' mode. The release of beautiful beer. And stay there. Those first few mouthfuls, how they rush round the veins, hitting the brain and take a person to temporary peace and tranquility. A shift to a different place. And I never like to stop until I've had enough. Then It's too late, and the consumption has gone beyond anything considered to be just social and into the 'realm of beer' for it's own sake. But when I'm in the mood, it's a place I love to go to. And quite frankly, I don't care. [Inner demons not yet tamed?]. And yet, heavens sake, people have nurtured this stuff for centuries, and it deserves to be treasured.

But then I go cycling and feel the effects and resent my indulgence. But the self-reproach is never that strong to keep me away from doing the same thing again. Fact is, I'm just not into cycling with a full-on dedication that others exhibit. I'd like to, or like the idea of being so, but at the end of the day, the desire never seems to be that strong. So I have to try and balance the two out. Not too much beer before a big ride [200k+], but then the discipline gets relaxed subsequently. 

I'm sure teethgrinder is right - concentrate on cycling, and the rest falls into place. Feel better, sleep better, concentrate better etc. But for me personally, I'm not interested in doing that much cycling, not at the expense of everything else. My commitment to it is not that profound. I probably don't consider myself a cyclist, but somebody that rides a bike[?]. Sounds contradictory, but I see a distinction. It's not a way of life, not a religion almost. I enjoy it, at lot, but it will never become my main interest
[although others closer to me, might beg to differ!]. Although ironically, last year, it was my only interest! It had to be, to get to Paris. Since then, I've felt a big sense of deflation and have had to ease back to allow things to settle down to see where the dust settles.

When it comes to booze, cutting down is just not an option for me. It's too stressful. Like smoking, the only way to deal with it, is to cut it out completely. In some ways I find that easier, but that involves a change of life, and would put challenges on the friendships I have. Not that those friendships are 'booze friendships' exclusively, but it's alarming how much the bar seems to come into things, and dynamics are affected when you change your behaviour like that.

Dunno. At the moment neither is winning. The inner torment continues  :)




Garry Broad

woollypigs

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Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2008, 05:26:13 pm »
Bless me forummers for I have sinned.

I went out last night and had 2 pint in a 4 hours time span, I'm sorry.

Though the best part of cutting back, that I now really can taste the beer I'm drinking and therefore really enjoy the pint or two I have in an evening.

yum yum

bobajobrob

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #43 on: April 19, 2008, 05:46:23 pm »
I went out last night and had 2 pint in a 4 hours time span, I'm sorry.

That's practically tee-total ;D

woollypigs

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Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2008, 05:49:03 pm »
I went out last night and had 2 pint in a 4 hours time span, I'm sorry.

That's practically tee-total ;D
hehe, well there was around 2 hours bike ride between them :)

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #45 on: April 19, 2008, 05:54:06 pm »
I'm decorating.

It's hot and dusty.  I'm already on my third can of TangleFoot.  :-[

Hummers

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Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #46 on: April 20, 2008, 12:34:27 am »
Bless me forummers for I have sinned.

I went out last night and had 2 pint in a 4 hours time span, I'm sorry.

Though the best part of cutting back, that I now really can taste the beer I'm drinking and therefore really enjoy the pint or two I have in an evening.

yum yum

Poof.

H

simonali

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #47 on: April 20, 2008, 01:02:52 am »
I haven't had a beer since Tuesday the 8th. That was the day I had an embarrassing episode that ended with me coming to grips with someone's neck! I've had a glass of wine with dinner, but not touched beer since. Not planning on giving it up, just having a rest. 

Re: Cutting back.
« Reply #48 on: April 20, 2008, 10:46:37 pm »
last year I didn't drink until july. I didn't intend for that to happen, I was 'cutting back' to ride the BCM,and that meant not starting. But my celebratory pint after the BCM didn't happen. (I think the bar was almost closed when I rolled in) so I went for the 6 months.

This year I have no major cycling goals so it has been a bit 'chin chin!'

I'll need a new goal. That keeps it away.

Chin chin...  *sups*