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CrazyEnglishTriathlete

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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #300 on: November 05, 2014, 10:01:36 am »
The thought crossed my mind.  I am likely to be travelling back from the Holyhead Ferry earlier in the week with the two CET Juniors, so I could in theory leave a drop bag or something, but that sort of forces me to stick to a plan.  On a good day 400km in Cambrian territory would take me 20 - 21 hours, on an off-day it would take me 22 - 23.  That's why the bivi option strikes me as a good one.  I did this on the 4D many years ago - just in the emergency plastic survival bag I used to carry with me, and should have done something similar on the 4C, instead of just having a cat-nap by the side of the road.  On the lanes in Wales there are plenty of places to pull the bike well off the road and get some undisturbed kip.  And it keeps things lightweight.  But plans are still very much in the air at the moment except for the dates which are now on the wall planner and therefore CANNOT BE CHANGED  :facepalm:
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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #301 on: December 11, 2014, 06:03:18 pm »
Just browsing (you understand of course) the 10A and it seems to me that the time allowed is a little well........er tight, to say the least.

Is this now some kind of super duper grimp fest 1015km in 71hrs and a whole 3 minutes ?

http://www.aukweb.net/perms/detail/CB35/

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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #302 on: December 11, 2014, 06:17:22 pm »
That looks like a 14.3kph time. I would have thoughtb you'd get 13.3kph min for events over 699km,  but the Organiser may get discretion.
75hrs is about the usual 1000km BRM time limit - that seems fair for a perm! Its unusal for a perm to have a higher min speed than the equiv cal event.
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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #303 on: December 11, 2014, 07:15:04 pm »
CET's guidance notes for the C10A available on the AUK website state "The total time allowed for the ride would be 76hr 19m at average speed 13.3km for 1015km". 75 hours is usual time limit for 1000km as Matt says ^^.

Enjoy the ride. But shirley you're not planning a winter attempt?!

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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #304 on: December 11, 2014, 07:44:06 pm »
Thanks chaps, I was getting worried there.

A winter attempt.............Now that would be a bit chilly.

Anyways, I did mention I was just browsing during an idle moment.

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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #305 on: December 11, 2014, 08:24:38 pm »
^Just browsing?

The Cambrian Series SR sounds like a good bit of fun to me.

Methinks an attempt is in the offing. :)
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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #306 on: December 11, 2014, 08:26:43 pm »
The time appearing for the rides is a new thing on the AUK website and I presume that whoever set up the alogrithm didn't factor in the slower time limits for 1000km events.  I seem to be in limbo on the website probably because I've just renewed my membership so can't check if I can alter the speeds.

Rest assured that the time available is 76hr 19min.  The ride has been completed twice, once by Swiss Hat and once by Teethgrinder, both of this parish.  There have been three other attempts, one gave up with knee travel after c400km and 2 gave up 17km into the wettest weekend in Wales for a century, where a campsite in Twywn made the national news for pictures of floating tents so they wouldn't have got round without oxygen tanks and periscopes.
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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #307 on: December 11, 2014, 08:28:54 pm »
Well, you can rule out a winter attempt as the 6A in October was cold enough.

Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #308 on: December 12, 2014, 02:42:04 pm »
Well, you can rule out a winter attempt as the 6A in October was cold enough.

Well, it would have been if it wasn't for wonderful heated toilet blocks.....

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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #309 on: December 12, 2014, 02:45:26 pm »
It's all in the planning, Rabbit. ::-) #Gottoloveatoiletblock

Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #310 on: December 12, 2014, 04:34:58 pm »
It's all in the planning, Rabbit. ::-) #Gottoloveatoiletblock

^conker that  :thumbsup:

TBH the biggest problem in October/winter is the darned lack of open youth hostels. 
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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #311 on: December 12, 2014, 04:37:08 pm »
I seem to be in limbo on the website probably because I've just renewed my membership ...

What?

Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #312 on: December 12, 2014, 07:33:26 pm »
It's all in the planning, Rabbit. ::-) #Gottoloveatoiletblock

^conker that  :thumbsup:

TBH the biggest problem in October/winter is the darned lack of open youth hostels.

I wouldn't let that put you off riding the 10A.
There's the Metropole Hotel in Llandrindod Wells, which has been used for AUK AGMs. You could use that as a base for the 3 loops. Even so, if you're ride turns out to be like mine, you'll only get one night's sleep.
My best tip is to use the main roads as much as possible instead of doing the opposite as I did, which probably cost me time.
Swiss Hat took a more sensible route than I did and rode it on gears as well. He got more sleep than I did.
It's probably in my top 3 toughest events that I've ridden.

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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #313 on: December 13, 2014, 04:13:42 pm »
Anyone got a GPX track for the 6B ?

I may need to do a bit of a warm up. ::-)

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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #314 on: January 02, 2015, 11:10:26 pm »
Just been looking at the 3A with a view to having a  go when things warm up a bit. Clockwise or Anticlockwise?   Both look to have their pros and cons but whats the view of the panel :-\ 
It wiil be my first time in Wales so I'd be grateful to hear the thoughts of those in the know.

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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #315 on: January 03, 2015, 12:18:03 am »
I did 3a anticlockwise, starting near abergaveny. Then Chepstow > Monmouth > Hay etc. Avoid Painscastle after Hay by following the B road on the eastern back of the Wye, tho it adds a few km. Anti clockwise means a long gradual descent back into Brecon and Abergaveny near the end of the ride.

This is the route I pretty much did: http://bikehike.co.uk/mapview.php?lnk=https://sites.google.com/site/youngadamski/gpx/perms/C3A.gpx
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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #316 on: January 03, 2015, 08:24:15 pm »
Cheers Adamski. Thanks for the route  :thumbsup:

What is the short secton at about 154km like just before Pont-rhyd-y-groes that passes alongside the Ystwyth river? On the map it looks like it is an off road path with no entry signs at either end. Is it a cycle path and if so whats  the surface like?   

Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #317 on: January 03, 2015, 08:27:55 pm »
I think its a mistake. I've ridden the road section above it on many occasions on several audaxes but I'm not aware of a rideable path.

EDIT: just looked on streetview and there is a gate and a gravel path. It would avoid a nasty hill I think, but I'm sure Adam will be along to clarify

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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #318 on: January 03, 2015, 08:53:50 pm »
The Cambrian routes are free, so if you do find a gravel track that does the job then you are free to use it.  I had a look on Google Maps, limited because even the regular route up the B4343 (familiar from the Elenydd) doesn't have street view after the turn to Cwnystwyth, and would suspect that, even though the roads have 30m more climbing you'd be quicker on tarmac.
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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #319 on: January 03, 2015, 09:02:43 pm »
Cheers Adamski. Thanks for the route  :thumbsup:

What is the short secton at about 154km like just before Pont-rhyd-y-groes that passes alongside the Ystwyth river? On the map it looks like it is an off road path with no entry signs at either end. Is it a cycle path and if so whats  the surface like?   

Just stick to the road.  It's steep but you won't crash...

I've only ever done the ride clockwise.  It's the best 300 route imaginable, perhaps the Scottish option aside, and were it not for the excellence and tradition of the established Elenith and its younger, and linguistically advanced, brother Yr Elenydd, I'd have probably put it on as a calendar event from Chepstow or Tintern.

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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #320 on: January 03, 2015, 09:03:44 pm »
Yeah, it'll be a mistake.
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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #321 on: January 03, 2015, 09:08:27 pm »
Cheers Adamski. Thanks for the route  :thumbsup:

What is the short secton at about 154km like just before Pont-rhyd-y-groes that passes alongside the Ystwyth river? On the map it looks like it is an off road path with no entry signs at either end. Is it a cycle path and if so whats  the surface like?   

Just stick to the road.  It's steep but you won't crash...

I've only ever done the ride clockwise.  It's the best 300 route imaginable, perhaps the Scottish option aside, and were it not for the excellence and tradition of the established Elenith and its younger, and linguistically advanced, brother Yr Elenydd, I'd have probably put it on as a calendar event from Chepstow or Tintern.

The 3A was done anti-clockwise on a tandem!  I asked them how they fared on the Devil's Staircase and they said they had good disk brakes and needed them.
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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #322 on: January 03, 2015, 09:27:36 pm »
Thanks chaps. Really looking forward to this now. Roll on Summer 8)

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Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #323 on: February 24, 2015, 04:33:36 pm »
Well, it's time to blow off the winter cobwebs and dust it down, as it's nearing Cambrian time.

First up then is a social amble, taking in the scenery of the 2A from Hay in the company of jamesld8, on the 20th March for a warm up to The Cambrian Classic on the 21st.

Anyone care to join a social outing to stretch the legs with a bit of grin and bear it thrown in?

Re: Cambrian Series Permanents
« Reply #324 on: February 24, 2015, 04:45:58 pm »
Well, it's time to blow off the winter cobwebs and dust it down, as it's nearing Cambrian time.

First up then is a social amble, taking in the scenery of the 2A from Hay in the company of jamesld8, on the 20th March for a warm up to The Cambrian Classic on the 21st.

Anyone care to join a social outing to stretch the legs with a bit of grin and bear it thrown in?

Chances of me getting the time off work = slim to non-existent.  However, if I have a 'reporting day' I may be able to do a deal, and work the Sunday instead.  Let me get back to you on that.  I have a number of Cambrian Entries I can convert and the 2A really is one of the best rides out there.  Which direction you planning on? 
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