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Inglourious Basterds
« on: 20 August, 2009, 10:52:44 am »
Saw it last night. :D

I really enjoyed it. Good Tarantino stuff, more mature than some of his earlier work, and a wonderful closing line (said by Pitt, but obviously Tarantino's opinion) which left the audience laughing and clapping over the end credits. :thumbsup:
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #1 on: 20 August, 2009, 11:41:21 am »
Whereas I hated it and thought it was one of his worst pieces
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #2 on: 20 August, 2009, 03:06:01 pm »
My son just saw it and loved it.  I shall be seeing it ASAP

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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #3 on: 20 August, 2009, 03:14:53 pm »
Just bought the original on DVD.  Do I watch it first?
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #4 on: 20 August, 2009, 05:04:21 pm »
Just bought the original on DVD.  Do I watch it first?

Tarantino said he bought the rights to the original simply because he liked the title.

He is very clear that's it's not a remake of that story.

I'd say you were safe to watch it on those grounds.

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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #5 on: 21 August, 2009, 03:49:49 pm »
From what I have read about it, I will be avoiding it. Sorry, and call me unfashionable and not at all post-modern, but I don't find 'the Jews do what the Nazis actually did to the Jews in real life' shtick very amusing...

Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #6 on: 21 August, 2009, 03:56:51 pm »
From what I have read about it, I will be avoiding it. Sorry, and call me unfashionable and not at all post-modern, but I don't find 'the Jews do what the Nazis actually did to the Jews in real life' shtick very amusing...

That wasn't really what it was about. In fact, there was a very pointed part when people are watching the film-within-a-film, and everyone is laughing and applauding the gruesome on-screen deaths, apart from one person who is wincing at every death and looking around at all the others in the audience and thinking "what is wrong with you people?"

That was clearly Tarantino's opinion of some of his fans.
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #7 on: 21 August, 2009, 04:27:29 pm »
From what I have read about it, I will be avoiding it. Sorry, and call me unfashionable and not at all post-modern, but I don't find 'the Jews do what the Nazis actually did to the Jews in real life' shtick very amusing...

That wasn't really what it was about. In fact, there was a very pointed part when people are watching the film-within-a-film, and everyone is laughing and applauding the gruesome on-screen deaths, apart from one person who is wincing at every death and looking around at all the others in the audience and thinking "what is wrong with you people?"

That was clearly Tarantino's opinion of some of his fans.

Hmm. Hmm. I may have to see it. I am never quite sure with Tarantino though. He's obsessively knowledgeable but I just don't know if he's that emotionally perceptive...

I guess I will have to see it now.

Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #8 on: 21 August, 2009, 04:43:54 pm »
From what I have read about it, I will be avoiding it. Sorry, and call me unfashionable and not at all post-modern, but I don't find 'the Jews do what the Nazis actually did to the Jews in real life' shtick very amusing...

That wasn't really what it was about. In fact, there was a very pointed part when people are watching the film-within-a-film, and everyone is laughing and applauding the gruesome on-screen deaths, apart from one person who is wincing at every death and looking around at all the others in the audience and thinking "what is wrong with you people?"

That was clearly Tarantino's opinion of some of his fans.

Hmm. Hmm. I may have to see it. I am never quite sure with Tarantino though. He's obsessively knowledgeable but I just don't know if he's that emotionally perceptive...

I guess I will have to see it now.

As I say, I thought Tarantino had matured.

Tarantino is the master of the claustrophobic trapped scene. Previously, he's not been subtle - Uma Thurman buried alive in the coffin, or the more general "guns are dangerous, if you are in a room with a madman with a gun, he really might kill you" which pervades his work. This time, yes, there was the physically trappedness (the opening scene is good - don't turn up late), but there was a more elegent over-riding sensation of linguistic claustrophobia, where characters switch between languages, and are isolated because they can't speak the language, or daren't give away that they *do* speak the language and must pretend not to understand...

I thought a scene in a restaurant where two characters are eating strudel was far more chilling than the Big Kahuna Burger scene in Pulp Fiction. Though there wasn't a weapon in sight, let alone any violence.

Or maybe I was just a trifle tipsy when I saw it. :-[
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #9 on: 22 August, 2009, 06:02:54 pm »
Or maybe I was just a trifle tipsy when I saw it. :-[

I think it might have helped  :)

I've just come back from seeing it and wasn't all that impressed - it might have been more enjoyable both if it had been a busy cinema (it wasn't) and if I had had a few beers beforehand (I hadn't).  I think this is the sort of film best seen with a  bunch of friends and not taken too seriously.

In my opinion it's Tarantino's worst film (or least good if you prefer) to date - there are some good bits but it felt overly long at times (and I like long movies). There were nods to a bunch of other films (including a bit of music from 'Kelly's Heroes') but I never got the impression I was watching a coherent film.  I think this is the sort of film that gets made when there aren't enough people who can say "No" to the director.

I don't think it's as bad as Peter Bradshaw in the Guardian is making out but using his negative review as my usual reverse barometer, I was expecting more from the film.


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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #10 on: 23 August, 2009, 04:36:06 am »
Well, I don't think it was his worst (Deathproof takes that honour) and while there was moments of brilliance, it was mostly boring. The scene in the tavern was the worst. You knew what would happen and he still dragged it out for another 10 minutes. 
Single best bit was Brad Pitt speaking Italian. *That* was genius!.

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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #11 on: 23 August, 2009, 08:53:47 am »
Well, I don't think it was his worst (Deathproof takes that honour) and while there was moments of brilliance, it was mostly boring. The scene in the tavern was the worst. You knew what would happen and he still dragged it out for another 10 minutes. 
Single best bit was Brad Pitt speaking Italian. *That* was genius!.

I actually quite liked Deathproof - I didn't think it was QT's best work but I wasn't seeing it as it was meant to be seen anyway (in that it was meant to be seen as part of Grindhouse rather than on it's own).

I liked the bit with Brad Pitt speaking Italian too.

Even though I'm not a huge fan of Inglorious Basterds I would still recommend that people see it and make up their own minds - I've seen elsewhere comments from people saying "I have read about this film and I don't like it" which seems to me to be incredibly lame, I think you have to see a film to have an informed opinion on it (fair enough if a film or genre of films doesn't appeal to you,  I just don't like it when people criticise the quality of films they haven't even watched yet).

Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #12 on: 03 September, 2009, 09:50:59 pm »
I am pleased to be able to report that The Ritzy currently has the title half misspelt, or half correctly spelt depending on how you look at it.
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #13 on: 07 September, 2009, 11:27:03 am »
From what I have read about it, I will be avoiding it. Sorry, and call me unfashionable and not at all post-modern, but I don't find 'the Jews do what the Nazis actually did to the Jews in real life' shtick very amusing...

That wasn't really what it was about. In fact, there was a very pointed part when people are watching the film-within-a-film, and everyone is laughing and applauding the gruesome on-screen deaths, apart from one person who is wincing at every death and looking around at all the others in the audience and thinking "what is wrong with you people?"

That was clearly Tarantino's opinion of some of his fans.

That was me and my friend when watching Reservoir Dogs.
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #14 on: 08 September, 2009, 10:10:37 am »
I was more worried about the spelling
than anything else!

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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #15 on: 11 September, 2009, 01:50:35 pm »
Tarantino needs to ask a top Editor to trim this fim down by 20 minutes and it would be infinitely better.

Potentially superb, tense, scenes become tedious.

I was also left thinking "Oh, was that it?" as I expected more actual action from the Basterds themselves.

Held together by a superb and menacing performance by the SS "Jew Hunter".

7/10

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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #16 on: 29 December, 2009, 09:52:03 am »
Watched this one on DVD over Christmas. My eldest son ,who saw it at the pictures earlier this year, said it was a comedy.

I am hoping that was just him being ironic as calling this a comedy is like saying that The Cook, the Thief, his Wife and her lover is a soft porn movie.

Some great moments in the film that almost entirely belonged to Christopher Waltz who was superb as 'The Jew Hunter' but otherwise, it was your standard comic book/pulp fiction stuff that IMHO does not stand up to Tarrantino's other works.

As for the whole Jewish revenge angle of the film, I thought that was just pure bullshit, a bit desparate and extremely heavyhanded in delivery.
 
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #17 on: 29 December, 2009, 10:08:58 am »
I too finally watched this film last week and I really rather liked it.  I think you need to adjust your expectations of it though because it is most definitely not an action movie or a revenge film.   

It has all the classicly brilliant dialogue, but don't expect the story to make much sense or to go where you would expect a war story to go.  Almost like what you've actually seen were about 5% of the scenes from a much, much bigger work - and you have to piece the plot together yourself from some of the set pieces.

I think watching a Tarrantino film is an experience like no other.  Much like looking at a Magic Eye picture, you have to let your brain go just a little bit slack in order to see it properly. 
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Re: Inglourious Basterds
« Reply #18 on: 31 December, 2009, 02:29:58 am »
Hugely disappointing. Those supposedly tense scenes - opening scene, strudel, basement cafe - were so overwought and overextended that they sagged to render disbelief unsuspendable, leaving me watching actors straining with a plodding script rather than characters driving a story.
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