Author Topic: All new OTTOLOCK  (Read 11439 times)

jiberjaber

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Re: All new OTTOLOCK
« Reply #100 on: December 07, 2018, 03:22:54 pm »
The Lockpicking Lawyer gets around to ‘testing’ the Ottolock

https://youtu.be/j7ah3RA0Alo

I sort of wish I hadn't watched that!  :facepalm:
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Jason

Re: All new OTTOLOCK
« Reply #101 on: December 07, 2018, 04:51:00 pm »
Well it is only really meant to be used as a cafe lock, still a bit disappointing, though!
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Re: All new OTTOLOCK
« Reply #102 on: December 07, 2018, 04:59:19 pm »
That seems to directly contradict the marketing spiel and demo videos put out by Ottolock when it launched.  Looks to be less effective than a cheapo cable lock.

Re: All new OTTOLOCK
« Reply #103 on: December 07, 2018, 05:01:42 pm »
Oh dear! Did I waste my money? At least I use other locks in conjunction with it.

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Re: All new OTTOLOCK
« Reply #104 on: December 07, 2018, 05:09:26 pm »
ooooopppss! :facepalm:

Re: All new OTTOLOCK
« Reply #105 on: December 07, 2018, 05:18:22 pm »
That was interesting and curious. I suspect that the efficiency of cutting was due to a small thing he pointed out, he tightened the nut to adjust them properly. And, Wiss are a decent brand of snips rather than a common one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdeDXK891MM is another using snips, takes a little longer (not that much!) but fails with bolt croppers, as does this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76MgFoonyw8

Ultimately it's a thin thing that WILL be cut through with the "right" tools, like the snips or hacksaw, but provides better defence than you might think possible for the weight against the "wrong" tools

Re: All new OTTOLOCK
« Reply #106 on: December 07, 2018, 05:26:58 pm »
That was interesting and curious. I suspect that the efficiency of cutting was due to a small thing he pointed out, he tightened the nut to adjust them properly. And, Wiss are a decent brand of snips rather than a common one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdeDXK891MM is another using snips, takes a little longer (not that much!) but fails with bolt croppers, as does this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76MgFoonyw8

Ultimately it's a thin thing that WILL be cut through with the "right" tools, like the snips or hacksaw, but provides better defence than you might think possible for the weight against the "wrong" tools

Indeed - are casual bike thieves likely to carry high-quality snips routinely?
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Re: All new OTTOLOCK
« Reply #107 on: December 07, 2018, 05:34:30 pm »
Probably not snips (unless they've seen this video).  Hacksaw, maybe.

Seems at least as useful as a basic cable lock.  Possibly more so as a second lock, on the "needs a different tool" principle.
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Re: All new OTTOLOCK
« Reply #108 on: December 07, 2018, 05:36:26 pm »
Me says that they were the cheapest pair of snips at the big box store. He’s usually a no nonsense youtuber and doesn’t try to sensationalise what he does. He is, however, a very clever and adept lock pick and he thinks how best to do physical attacks before he does them. Most opportunists, whom this lock is aimed at defeating, wouldn’t have the right thinking to do so and it would be pure bad luck for such a scrot to actually have the right tools. It’s still a massive gap between the marketing and the reality though. 
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Re: All new OTTOLOCK
« Reply #109 on: December 07, 2018, 06:07:38 pm »
Me says that they were the cheapest pair of snips at the big box store. He’s usually a no nonsense youtuber and doesn’t try to sensationalise what he does. He is, however, a very clever and adept lock pick and he thinks how best to do physical attacks before he does them. Most opportunists, whom this lock is aimed at defeating, wouldn’t have the right thinking to do so and it would be pure bad luck for such a scrot to actually have the right tools. It’s still a massive gap between the marketing and the reality though. 

Indeed, that was my observation. For example, I know my snips are rarely properly adjusted,  most people will not even know (as in the second vid) and unless they are new are very unlikely to be. The big deal is that tin snips are of very little use to a thief, who is more likely to have bolt cutters as there are no other locks where tin snips could be used.

I really don't think it exposes a gap in the reality, maybe in people's expectations.