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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #450 on: 11 July, 2018, 02:18:37 pm »
Hazard and Courtois are accusing France of "anti-football" meaning they simply defended after they'd taken the lead. I don't think that's fair. Belgium had most of the possession and to my inexpert eye looked the better side for the first half hour or so, but France made/exploited several chances right to the end of the game.

I bet they used to take their ball home if they went behind as kids.  Pathetic.  If a team goes in front and then is good enough to prevent you scoring, then they are good enough to win - and you aren't.  Attractive football is lovely to watch but it is only one aspect of the occasionally beautiful game

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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #451 on: 11 July, 2018, 02:26:42 pm »
Quality defending can be 'attractive' too - I thought Varane was a joy to watch last night.
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #452 on: 11 July, 2018, 02:37:39 pm »
Certainly - but are you old enough to remember Leeds Uhited?  Cloughie was spot-on!

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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #453 on: 11 July, 2018, 02:38:26 pm »
Quality defending can be 'attractive' too - I thought Varane was a joy to watch last night.

Aye, but watching defence is probably one of the more subtle pleasures. It's the attacks that please the crowd.
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #454 on: 11 July, 2018, 03:24:54 pm »
Fuck all this talk of tactics and shit. IT'S COMING FUCKING HOME!!!  :P
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #456 on: 11 July, 2018, 03:47:02 pm »
Funny, though, how the Red Whatnots painted a tricouleur over Buckingham Palace.
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #457 on: 11 July, 2018, 04:49:04 pm »
I think that's massively out of date - did you watch the England U20 and U17 world cup wins last summer?

No. It’s based only on the games of this World Cup. English players are too often clumsy with the ball and rarely take a man on (Sterling excepted and he fails often). They mostly play a game of athletic power and endurance, set pieces, and statistical analysis. It works or they wouldn’t be in with a realistic chance of winning the World Cup, but it’s not usually pretty.

I spent my teenage years playing beach football in Brazil and received very little formal training (having no special talent, etc.). When I watch Brazilian players, very often they do what I fondly imagine I would do (if I had the skill and speed). When I watch England, the players much less often make the decisions I would. Especially the off-the-ball movement is highly theoretical, not the natural movement you learn by unschooled playing.
This England team is structured and organised. They have picked the players who fit the structure, not the best footballers, because that's how you do well at tournament football. 
However, Sterling is doing pretty well according to this:
https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1017050334512812032?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Of the top 5 players on that list:
Hazard played for a club from 4,
Neymar played footsal from a young age and joined his first club aged 7,
Cheryshev was at Sporting Gijon from age 6,
Sterling joined the QPR academy at 9,
and MBappe joined his first club aged 6 (and was coached by his father prior to that).

The magic of street football is not the breeding ground for modern youngsters who dribble - structured coaching is everywhere.
The astonishing thing to me about Sterling is how good he is despite his inability to really strike a ball.

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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #458 on: 11 July, 2018, 05:46:51 pm »
I've just realised.   Ingerlund are  through to the last 3.
But they could still come 4th.
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #459 on: 11 July, 2018, 06:57:15 pm »
Is BBC television not covering this match tonight then?
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« Reply #460 on: 11 July, 2018, 07:08:54 pm »
Not a bad start.    :D
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #461 on: 11 July, 2018, 07:23:18 pm »
I say, Mr Administrator, that challenge on H Kane was a bit robust!
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #462 on: 11 July, 2018, 08:28:43 pm »
Just got in from a pub ride.
A. Mrs B is watching the football.    :o
B. She shouting at the telly.   :o

You'd have to know her to understand how astonishing that is.

I particularly like that she's shouting C'mon bois!   :D
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #463 on: 11 July, 2018, 08:32:15 pm »
I know they scored against us, but that no reason to call them a 'pair of shits'...

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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #464 on: 11 July, 2018, 08:45:16 pm »
Actually,  it's rather exciting,  isn't it?  Who knew?
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #465 on: 11 July, 2018, 09:08:11 pm »
There's a pub 100 yards along the road. I can hear them shouting.
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #466 on: 11 July, 2018, 09:11:44 pm »
I think it's beer making that noise rather than any great advantage to Engerland.
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #467 on: 11 July, 2018, 09:17:42 pm »
It's going to p*n*lt**s, isn't it?
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #468 on: 11 July, 2018, 09:22:49 pm »
Unlucky !

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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #469 on: 11 July, 2018, 09:23:36 pm »
The pub's gone quiet...
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #470 on: 11 July, 2018, 09:25:18 pm »
Deja Vu...........
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #471 on: 11 July, 2018, 09:35:07 pm »
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #472 on: 11 July, 2018, 09:38:28 pm »
Well, that's my future as a foopball pundit secure :'(
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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #473 on: 11 July, 2018, 09:38:37 pm »
Oh dear!

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Re: World cup 2018
« Reply #474 on: 11 July, 2018, 09:38:59 pm »
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