Author Topic: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018  (Read 12166 times)

Feanor

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Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #50 on: June 21, 2018, 09:17:18 pm »
Q regarding permissible kit, if you don't mind.

1) Top-tube bags: I've heard contradictory tales about this. Some of my club members are "Get the lunch boxes off, they are not compliant". But others disagree. I suppose it comes down to what they are compliant *with*.

2) Front wheel rim depth.  I've read about requirements that X percent of the wheel is open. Humm. Is that true, and what does it mean in practice? Is a mainstream Zipp 808 clincher OK?

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #51 on: June 21, 2018, 09:24:02 pm »
I’ve used a top tube bag every time I’ve ridden a 12 or 24.   No issue.

An 808 is fine.   There’s loads of them at TTs.   Very few non compliant front wheels out there.

Feanor

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Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #52 on: June 21, 2018, 09:30:37 pm »
Thx.

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2018, 09:51:29 pm »

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2018, 10:04:12 pm »
Training still on track, 600km Audax done over the weekend as a non-stop ride (other than mandatory controls).  386 Miles in 24:51 moving time with 5000m of climbing.

OK, next newbie question.

Does anyone have any tips for managing hand ups etc.  Bottles are easy, I'm thinking more about solid food.  Current idea is an elastic band around the bottle with cereal/energy bars and a gel tucked into it.  That's assuming I use a 500ml bottle and replace around the hour mark. If I went up to a 1L bottle I could alternate hand ups between bottles and food packages again wrapped in an elastic band.  I'm sure there are better methods out there though.

Karla

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Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2018, 10:20:02 pm »
That's the method pretty much everyone uses. 

A pro tip from Andy Wilkinson on his 'Doing it My Way' videos (YouTube should have them, it the title doesn't bring them up then the author is Quentin Field-Boden): plan on using 500ml bottles and then if it's really hot and you aren't getting enough fluids, switch to 750s.

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2018, 11:17:49 pm »
That's the method pretty much everyone uses. 

A pro tip from Andy Wilkinson on his 'Doing it My Way' videos (YouTube should have them, it the title doesn't bring them up then the author is Quentin Field-Boden): plan on using 500ml bottles and then if it's really hot and you aren't getting enough fluids, switch to 750s.

Thanks Karla, I'll definitely have a look at those.

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #57 on: June 22, 2018, 02:13:57 am »
They are well worth viewing.
I'd also recommend an interview that wheels of fire did with Jack Thurston last year

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #58 on: June 22, 2018, 03:22:44 pm »
They are well worth viewing.
I'd also recommend an interview that wheels of fire did with Jack Thurston last year

Also excellent, thanks Frank. 

These have pretty much help me nail down my feeding strategy.  Just need to keep training and pray for good weather.

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #59 on: June 22, 2018, 09:46:53 pm »
In the end I learnt to carry 4hrs worth of carbs in a top tube bag and snack on the move.   Then I pick up a 500ml bottle roughly once an hour.   At Prees I picked up a large bottle heading to Battlefield as you’re gone over an hour.   500ml bottles the rest of the time.

Get your helper to hold the bottle by the top so that you can grab the bottom at speed.   Also pull the stopper up as it gives the bottle some squeeze.

Every 4hrs I’d stop, wee, and have my top tube bag refilled.   These opportunities were also used to pick or dispose of extra layers, lights etc.  In 2016 I stopped for a total loss of 12 minutes.

Enjoy your ride.  I’m out this year - not where I need to be for the longer races at the moment.

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #60 on: July 02, 2018, 08:56:54 am »
I seem to have had my entry confirmed 😳

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #61 on: July 02, 2018, 11:09:26 pm »
I seem to have had my entry confirmed 😳

Me too, see you there! Legs starting to feel okay - hopefully coming into some form in 2.5 weeks time  :)

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #62 on: July 03, 2018, 09:15:46 am »
I seem to have had my entry confirmed 😳

Me too, see you there! Legs starting to feel okay - hopefully coming into some form in 2.5 weeks time  :)

Same here.   :o

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #63 on: July 03, 2018, 09:20:23 am »
I seem to have had my entry confirmed 😳

Me too, see you there! Legs starting to feel okay - hopefully coming into some form in 2.5 weeks time  :)

Frankly it’s about time you came into a bit of descent Form 🤔😆👏


Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #65 on: July 03, 2018, 02:29:31 pm »
Somewhat surprised not to see Steve Abraham on that list

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2018, 09:17:47 am »
Does anyone know if you are allowed a 2nd bike .
I’m thinking in case of mechanicals mainly with my neck/back

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #67 on: July 04, 2018, 10:45:18 am »
Somewhat surprised not to see Steve Abraham on that list

He pulled a couple of consecutive all-nighters a couple of weeks ago and it's knocked it out of him!

In all seriousness - he had a very bad cough, and is feeling under the weather; I think he has sensibly decided to recuperate properly.

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #68 on: July 04, 2018, 10:45:42 am »
Does anyone know if you are allowed a 2nd bike .
I’m thinking in case of mechanicals mainly with my neck/back

Yes, you can change bikes in CTT events

Feanor

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Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #69 on: July 06, 2018, 10:32:10 pm »
I seem to have had my entry confirmed 😳

Ah, looking at the start list it appears that unfortunately my name is on the list (46).
So now I suppose I have to ride the bloody thing.

I have an enforced 2 week tapering on account of being on a family hollibery, with only recreational cycling involved, so that will probably help!

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #70 on: July 06, 2018, 10:38:31 pm »
Startsheet - http://www.timetriallingforum.co.uk/index.php?/topic/128419-mersey-roads-24-hour/

Lots of familiar names there - good to see McNasty, of course. And i've heard Steve Fullerton's been training hard.

Good luck, Feanor too :)

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #71 on: July 11, 2018, 10:29:59 am »
Q regarding permissible kit, if you don't mind.

1) Top-tube bags: I've heard contradictory tales about this. Some of my club members are "Get the lunch boxes off, they are not compliant". But others disagree. I suppose it comes down to what they are compliant *with*.

2) Front wheel rim depth.  I've read about requirements that X percent of the wheel is open. Humm. Is that true, and what does it mean in practice? Is a mainstream Zipp 808 clincher OK?

The regs are pretty simple:
https://www.cyclingtimetrials.org.uk/articles/view/11

808s fronts are fine, just make sure you can hang onto them when it gets windy. Unless someone tried to claim it was some kind of fairing, bento boxes are fine too.

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #72 on: July 13, 2018, 11:23:24 am »
Looks like they've added an 10 miles to the Prees-Esply leg from Esply down to Shawbirch.  It's a 40 mile round trip now.  Need to rethink feeding options.

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #73 on: July 13, 2018, 11:45:38 am »
That's reverting to the course how it was until 2016.  The leg down to Shawbirch is pretty flat but the surface was quite rough in places so not as fast as the section north of Esply.
They had to shorten it as the Shawbirch roundabout was extensively dug up.  That should mean that there will be at least a little bit of new tarmac around that bit!

Re: Mersey Roads 24hr TT 2018
« Reply #74 on: July 13, 2018, 11:46:56 am »
Looks like they've added an 10 miles to the Prees-Esply leg from Esply down to Shawbirch.  It's a 40 mile round trip now.  Need to rethink feeding options.

Only during the Saturday afternoon, not at night.

Start to Prees Island is approx 25 miles, then you do approx a further 60 miles before returning to Prees for the second time. This 60 miles is Prees-Epsley-Shawbirch-Epsley-Shawbirch-Epsley-Prees.

Night circuit is still Prees-Epsley-Prees (c 20 miles)