Author Topic: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update  (Read 1751 times)

Phil W

BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« on: May 24, 2018, 08:56:56 pm »
Beware the Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update.

Their idea of data privacy is to turn off their cloud storage and delete your latest collection data.  Just had to revert back to 4.6.1 and do a Windows 10 file restore of the basecamp database.  Now done a fresh backup and will not be upgrading Basecamp anytime soon.  Lost today's tracks I had created but otherwise normal service resumed.

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Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2018, 06:59:48 am »
I think you must have missed the announcement on teh Garmin support forums - I am sure I heard about this back in Feb when I was using BC to plot routes to chase squares.
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Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2018, 07:38:48 am »
Is their update automatic or can you choose?
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Phil W

Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2018, 04:20:16 pm »
Is their update automatic or can you choose?

You can choose, though it will nag you somewhat each time you open Basecamp.

Phil W

Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2018, 04:22:01 pm »
I think you must have missed the announcement on teh Garmin support forums - I am sure I heard about this back in Feb when I was using BC to plot routes to chase squares.

There is the problem then, using an Etrex I have no need to visit their support forums which used to be full of Edge users.

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Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2018, 06:06:10 pm »
I think you must have missed the announcement on teh Garmin support forums - I am sure I heard about this back in Feb when I was using BC to plot routes to chase squares.

There is the problem then, using an Etrex I have no need to visit their support forums which used to be full of Edge users.

I actually went to the Basecamp section as it didn't want to talk to my 1030 - which is where I found out about it.  It may have even been before Xmas I think....
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Joergen

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Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2018, 06:25:38 pm »
Presumably the cloud services will stop working at some point, when they switch the servers off. Even if you don't upgrade your BaseCamp version

Does any actually use the cloud storage anyway?

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Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2018, 08:07:04 am »
Is their update automatic or can you choose?

You can choose, though it will nag you somewhat each time you open Basecamp.

Ta.  I rarely use it so it's no great bother.
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Phil W

Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2018, 08:32:21 pm »
Presumably the cloud services will stop working at some point, when they switch the servers off. Even if you don't upgrade your BaseCamp version

Does any actually use the cloud storage anyway?

The cloud services have already stop talking. So withdrawn due to GDPR with no notice they would do that.

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Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2018, 08:38:01 pm »
Presumably the cloud services will stop working at some point, when they switch the servers off. Even if you don't upgrade your BaseCamp version

Does any actually use the cloud storage anyway?

I wasn't even aware the option existed.
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fuaran

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Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2018, 09:08:01 pm »
I got an email from Garmin in April, which said the cloud storage was due to be switched off.

You could set BaseCamp to use some other cloud storage, eg Dropbox. Just set it to store your database within your Dropbox folder.

Phil W

Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2018, 09:23:11 pm »
I got an email from Garmin in April, which said the cloud storage was due to be switched off.

You could set BaseCamp to use some other cloud storage, eg Dropbox. Just set it to store your database within your Dropbox folder.

Tis alright I had added the folder to windows file backup so recovering  data was not a big issue.

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Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2018, 09:24:11 pm »
I got an email from Garmin in April, which said the cloud storage was due to be switched off.

You could set BaseCamp to use some other cloud storage, eg Dropbox. Just set it to store your database within your Dropbox folder.

This is precisely what I do now (after losing a Basecamp DB to a laptop failure, two or three years back).  After another laptop failure recently, I just repointed the basecamp installation on my new machine at my DropBox DB and all was good.

(I couldn't persuade the Basecamp install on my temporary loan MacBook to use it though).
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Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2018, 07:37:18 pm »
And here's another reason to avoid Basecamp 4.7.  It ships with a new version of MapInstall.  To quote from https://www.velomap.org/
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Now the problem is - Basecamp 4.7.0 also ships an updated version of Garmin MapInstall - and that version is broken in so far that it does not send any maps in .img format anymore! This also applies to original garmin maps. I have some old Garmin Topo Austria and Garmin City Navigator map - that cannot be sent anymore. Also any of the garmin demo maps converted into .img format from gmapsupp.img do not transfer anymore.


I was trying to update the velomap on my eTrex 30 and the map appeared to transfer perfectly, but  when I looked at it on the eTrex it was blank.  Banging my head on various hard surfaces did not help.  However, when I uninstalled Basecamp, and reinstalled version 4.6.2, that helped.  My eTrex is now up to date.  I wonder when Garmin are going to notice and fix this.

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Re: BEWARE Garmin Basecamp 4.7 GDPR update
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2018, 09:14:20 am »
The upside of the update AIUI from a post elsewhere, is that Basecamp will now support FIT2 files (as written by some Wahoo devices).

https://developer.garmin.com/index.php/blog/post/updated-fit-sdk
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