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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #800 on: January 04, 2020, 06:01:40 pm »
What's Wandrer, Russell?

I got a whole 4! new squares today. It was an entertaining ride, apart from jarring my knee a bit, which kiboshed my plan to walk out and get a couple more squares.

I had a chat with a gamekeeper along a shootin' track - he spotted me and caught me up on his quad while I was fighting with my rain jacket and the wind.

Him: "How far up are you going?"

Me: "Dunno, how far does it go?"

He was quite relaxed about me riding it, he just wanted to let me know I properly shouldn't. Turns out, it's really handy for getting two awkward squares. I already had one of them, though, since I yomped up the hill at the opposite edge of the square last March :)

I've set myself a target of getting my square to 40x40 by the end of January. Knocked one of the squares off today, half a dozen more to go...

Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #801 on: January 04, 2020, 06:12:57 pm »
What's Wandrer, Russell?

It uses Strava to work out where you've been, and lets you know when you ride new roads

https://wandrer.earth/
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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #802 on: January 04, 2020, 06:18:18 pm »
Nooooo, not another one...!

10 new squares today but a cluster increase of 30.

Last week I did this. Ffs.

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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #803 on: January 05, 2020, 09:02:16 am »
What's Wandrer, Russell?

It uses Strava to work out where you've been, and lets you know when you ride new roads

https://wandrer.earth/

I was intrigued by this, but there wasn't much info on the front page... I signed up anyway, and granted Wandrer all the permissions it asked for. Then I learn that it's limited to my last 50 rides unless I pay for a subscription. I'd rather have known that before I ticked 'grant access' to everything. Anyway, the 'delete account' button was easy to find, so that's a plus. I'm paying the VeloViewer subscription mainly for the Explorer Tiles game, Wandrer looks interesting but is perhaps too much of an overlap with Explorer Tiles to justify my cash.
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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #804 on: January 05, 2020, 09:04:06 pm »
Ah fuck that then.

Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #805 on: January 06, 2020, 09:28:03 am »
What's Wandrer, Russell?

It uses Strava to work out where you've been, and lets you know when you ride new roads

https://wandrer.earth/



I was intrigued by this, but there wasn't much info on the front page... I signed up anyway, and granted Wandrer all the permissions it asked for. Then I learn that it's limited to my last 50 rides unless I pay for a subscription. I'd rather have known that before I ticked 'grant access' to everything. Anyway, the 'delete account' button was easy to find, so that's a plus. I'm paying the VeloViewer subscription mainly for the Explorer Tiles game, Wandrer looks interesting but is perhaps too much of an overlap with Explorer Tiles to justify my cash.

That's odd, as i'm displaying around 3000 rides and I don't pay a penny
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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #806 on: January 06, 2020, 10:16:42 am »
Early adopters of Wandrer had all their rides loaded for free.

Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #807 on: January 06, 2020, 10:27:24 am »
Early adopters of Wandrer had all their rides loaded for free.

That'll explain it then, thanks.

Back on topic,
Yesterdays ride round Kielder Water increased my total from 9816 to 9819, by riding the peninsula i usually miss out
No changes to cluster or max square though.
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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #808 on: January 06, 2020, 12:49:39 pm »
What's Wandrer, Russell?

It uses Strava to work out where you've been, and lets you know when you ride new roads

https://wandrer.earth/
Anyway, the 'delete account' button was easy to find, so that's a plus.

A cross would have been better.

Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #809 on: January 06, 2020, 03:20:54 pm »
I punted my max square from 24 to 26 early on Xmas day with some festive trespassing. Not a soul to be seen, except me...  :facepalm:

I have my targets firmly set on 30 x 30. I have 2 big clusters on opposing corners that I could work over with a carefully devised route, other than that lots of odds and sods annoying distances apart.

Great fun. 

Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #810 on: January 06, 2020, 11:13:53 pm »
I've cracked, sorry, here's my 2019.


Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #811 on: January 07, 2020, 09:07:33 am »
Early adopters of Wandrer had all their rides loaded for free.

I guess the early adopters should be thankful that our rides didn't get chucked out too.

Wandrer is going to be very computationally expensive (calculating every road is harder than calculating every tile) so I'm not surprised the Wandrer has tried to monetize much earlier than VeloViewer did. But I still think it is a bit pretty premature to pay - the basic static pages (like About and Scoring) are out-of-date but could easily be fixed. The real beef for me is that the road detection algorithm isn't very well tuned for the UK yet - loads of footpaths and private roads are marked as needing to be visited if you want to get to 100%. For the UK it should be roads and bridleways. I know this is mainly a problem with the underlying OpenStreetMap data, but is not unfixable - e.g. the rowmaps.com guy has marked up all bridleways. If he managed to do that, I reckon I'd end up paying for Strava AND VeloViewer AND Wandrer.


Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #812 on: January 12, 2020, 07:44:46 pm »
I used the Rapha Festive500 to nibble away at the edges of my square with rides on flooded roads, badly diverted bridleways, barbed wire fences etc - all part of the fun.

Yesterday I had a nice tow into wind by the club run before I cut a corner for one tile then diverted after the cafe stop to pick up another couple near Market Harborough.  This gives me two overlapping 41*41 squares.  There is a bunch of tiles near Corby that I 'need' - I wonder if I can convince the club to drag me over there next Saturday  ;)

Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #813 on: January 19, 2020, 11:55:32 am »
I managed to get 4 new tiles yesterday on @Deano 's Yad Moss / St Moritz 200
It was a bit too far from home to increase my cluster, which remains at 366
Unlucky for me, I'm still stuck on 13 x 13
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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #814 on: January 20, 2020, 06:05:13 pm »
Started to target the gaps in my cluster. Got 3 tiles today (with a bit of walking boggy off-road paths) and pushed my cluster from 189 to 201. Gained 67 tiles since Jan 1st and increased my cluster score by 58.

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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #815 on: January 21, 2020, 09:54:21 am »
Moving house really boosts the motivation.

I had a few hours to kill in Zunlun yesterday so walked their beaches. It was a lovely day, but it'll take more than Sunshine to make Sunderland ever bearable.
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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #816 on: January 22, 2020, 03:57:07 pm »
Really got motivated at the end of last year trying to up my 2019 square, and I asked Veloviewer Ben about a current year KML.
He replied that he hopes to have a more specific area for explorers available this year with more tools, when he secures his first employee to help.

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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #817 on: January 22, 2020, 05:13:59 pm »

I had a few hours to kill in Zunlun yesterday so walked their beaches. It was a lovely day, but it'll take more than Sunshine to make Sunderland ever bearable.


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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #818 on: January 22, 2020, 05:14:44 pm »
He replied that he hopes to have a more specific area for explorers available this year with more tools, when he secures his first employee to help.

That would have been an interesting job but, sadly, I suspect he couldn't afford me!
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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #819 on: January 22, 2020, 05:28:03 pm »
94km with 1400m climbing today to bag 5 squares....
Cluster up by 15(!) but still stuck at 3x 18 by 18
Will need to about 160km + 2500m climbing to get to 20x20...  :)

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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #820 on: January 22, 2020, 07:25:20 pm »
He replied that he hopes to have a more specific area for explorers available this year with more tools, when he secures his first employee to help.

That would have been an interesting job but, sadly, I suspect he couldn't afford me!

Suspect not, but I guess he's doing ok having signed up 17 of the 19 world tour cycle teams for his route app Which they use in live races and preparation. :thumbsup:

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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #821 on: January 22, 2020, 09:48:31 pm »

I had a few hours to kill in Zunlun yesterday so walked their beaches. It was a lovely day, but it'll take more than Sunshine to make Sunderland ever bearable.


You could have gone for a ride on the fun bus.

So many options
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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #822 on: January 23, 2020, 11:29:50 am »
I've been slowly filling in holes this year and increased my cluster from 129 to 211 since December.

Looking at the blank squares between the Dumfries/Bankend Road and the B724 that is one big bog/forest picked up 2 of them this week (the 2 pink ones N and NE of Bankend on the VV screenshot).

Seen this lane into Craig's Moss on the map but have cycled past it a few times and not noticed it.

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It would get me just the one tile

itsallbog by ian, on Flickr

The reason I haven't noticed it (drove past it today to investigate) is that it's not as well defined on the ground as it is on the map.

2020-01-23_11-14-22 by ian, on Flickr
 


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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #823 on: January 26, 2020, 11:44:01 am »
Got my square into double figures at last (10x10) - next target the 2 on the right hand side and the top right corner :)

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Re: VeloViewer Explorer Score and Max Square
« Reply #824 on: January 26, 2020, 01:55:58 pm »
I did a ridiculously wriggly ride yesterday with the intent of bringing my cluster south as far as Doncaster. I dunno what I was thinking during the planning as I failed, despite 74 new tiles, a great deal of spurs for tiles and a couple of time sapping wades through post-flood mud across fields. :facepalm:
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