Author Topic: Anybody know what DHL are up to in Bermondsey?  (Read 898 times)

itsbruce

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Anybody know what DHL are up to in Bermondsey?
« on: June 28, 2018, 05:43:59 pm »
A mate spotted this in Bermondsey:



I know they bought 50 Brox Compacts back in 2001 but if that's one of them then they've done some refurbishment and modification.



This latest thing is power assisted..
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itsbruce

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Re: Anybody know what DHL are up to in Bermondsey?
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2018, 05:52:02 pm »
Oh, it's a Velove Armadillo.

http://velove.se/the-armadillo/
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Re: Anybody know what DHL are up to in Bermondsey?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2018, 08:59:59 pm »
Love it, hope they spread all around the UK.

Wonder whether the assist is a compliant 250W or something more, that thing looks like it can carry some serious cargo and I'd guess it would be a devil in a head wind without some serious push from the motor.

Kim

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Re: Anybody know what DHL are up to in Bermondsey?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2018, 09:06:09 pm »
From the link above:

Quote
Electric assist: Bafang Max
Electric assist rated power: 250 watt
Electric assist torque: +80 Nm
Electric assist speed limit: Assisting up to 25 km/h
Battery capacity: 0,6 kWh (extra battery mount can be fitted)
Energy consumption on max assist: 0,15­-0,2 kWh/10 km

So a standard pedelec complaint motor.  I thought there was a weight limit, but maybe that was only in the old EAPC regs?
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Re: Anybody know what DHL are up to in Bermondsey?
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2018, 12:00:54 am »
So only 250W, but if I'm correct isn't the Bafang a crank drive system?  I've only had experience of hub motors so I'm not familiar with the power delivery characteristics of a crack drive but Watt for Watt will a motor delivering its power via the transmission path pull better than a direct drive?

I guess the answer isn't straight forward as the relationship between power rating in measured in watts and torque at the wheel will differ greatly from one manufacturer to another.

The main thing though remains that I'm glad to see a major delivery firm taking cycle delivery seriously.       

Kim

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Re: Anybody know what DHL are up to in Bermondsey?
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2018, 08:19:21 am »
So only 250W, but if I'm correct isn't the Bafang a crank drive system?  I've only had experience of hub motors so I'm not familiar with the power delivery characteristics of a crack drive but Watt for Watt will a motor delivering its power via the transmission path pull better than a direct drive?

It'll give you much better torque at the wheel than a gearless hub motor (I assume the double freewheel transmission helps avoid wheel-spin), as well as the off-power efficiency of a freewheel.  There's generally a weight saving, too, but that's not really important here.

From experience of hauling ~60kg of trailer with a 37kg trike (plus about 80kg of me) with a 250W motor, I reckon it'll make the acceleration tolerable.  Hill climbing will be underwhelming with a full load, but they're using them in flat places anyway.
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Re: Anybody know what DHL are up to in Bermondsey?
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2018, 08:34:33 am »
Hate to be negative Bruce.. .but with all the gates and barriers on our wonderful Sustrans stylee cycle paths.. I'm amazed that DHL mobile got there!
I suppose these will be mostly used on roads in crowded city centres - would make sense there.