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Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #275 on: September 21, 2018, 04:54:07 pm »
Seems like very little discussion about whether phase 2 is a good idea, and more discussion about how to pay for it.

I will be thinking hard about whether to renew membership.

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Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #276 on: September 21, 2018, 05:30:47 pm »
Seems like very little discussion about whether phase 2 is a good idea, and more discussion about how to pay for it.

This.  Although I'm more concerned about the lack of debate on whether Phase 3 is needed.  I get DIYs and GPS are the future, but maybe the future is just beyond reach for AUK.  There is no shame in admitting that and pausing on Phase 3 (possibly accompanied by limiting demand for DIYs, for example by only allowing one DIY to be validated a month for each member).

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I will be thinking hard about whether to renew membership.

I won't.  I'll be renewing.  Audax is great and AUK is still a fine organisation with a good community and volunteers.   I also think it was about time we increased the subscription fee and validation fees.

I will, however, be considering my voting options at the next AGM very carefully if someone stands on a platform of revisiting the scope of the IT project.  Partly because I don't agree with the Board's decision.  Partly because I'm uncomfortable with how the Board has exercised their powers.
By the time a man is wise enough to watch his step, he's too old to go anywhere.

Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #277 on: September 21, 2018, 06:07:13 pm »
I will be thinking hard about whether to renew membership.

I won't.  I'll be renewing.  Audax is great and AUK is still a fine organisation with a good community and volunteers.   I also think it was about time we increased the subscription fee and validation fees.

Very true. Increase them for what though? If what needs paying for hasn't been touched by inflation then they shouldn't increase just for the sake of it. If they were increasing to fund a new initiative we all agreed with then fair enough. But they're being increased just to cover this project.

I suppose the additional income will remain once the project is finished though. Hopefully!

Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #278 on: September 21, 2018, 06:09:11 pm »
Audax is great and AUK is still a fine organisation with a good community and volunteers.   I also think it was about time we increased the subscription fee and validation fees.


This - AUK provides the infrastructure for what we do. It is bigger than the legal entity and is a wider community of enthusiasts and volunteers.

I think membership is stunningly good value even increased - it funds the framework that enables rides to happen, means organisers don't have to invent the wheel around so many aspects of the task and provides formats for us to enjoy our hobby.

Separately - I know nothing about IT projects and am glad that I am not on the board having to work this one out.

And one more thing, on the AUK forum, the Club Sec has provided an interesting reply to a post from Manotea about the board's powers.  Might be worth a read - I don't know the truth of it but it must help focus debate.

Liam

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Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #279 on: September 21, 2018, 06:20:43 pm »
Audax is great and AUK is still a fine organisation with a good community and volunteers.   I also think it was about time we increased the subscription fee and validation fees.


This - AUK provides the infrastructure for what we do. It is bigger than the legal entity and is a wider community of enthusiasts and volunteers.

I think membership is stunningly good value even increased - it funds the framework that enables rides to happen, means organisers don't have to invent the wheel around so many aspects of the task and provides formats for us to enjoy our hobby.

Separately - I know nothing about IT projects and am glad that I am not on the board having to work this one out.


Well said. I couldn't agree more.
Member no. 152 of La Société Adrian Hands

Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #280 on: September 21, 2018, 06:21:25 pm »
Not even so much as a Reader's Digest special salutation:

Dear MR SMITH

Ah yes, that's down to me.  That salutation should have included your firstname but something went astray.   I'm afraid that MailChimp is a bit of a dark art for me, and there is probably a delegate position for someone who has a better grasp on the technology than me.  On the plus side, I don't think there were speling mixtakes.  I do hope I got those numbers right.

I'm so ancient that I indeed once used to work for a mail order company, and fitting variables into a pre-printed form was at the cutting edge then.

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Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #281 on: September 21, 2018, 07:12:13 pm »
Not even so much as a Reader's Digest special salutation:

Dear MR SMITH

Ah yes, that's down to me.  That salutation should have included your firstname but something went astray.   I'm afraid that MailChimp is a bit of a dark art for me, and there is probably a delegate position for someone who has a better grasp on the technology than me.  On the plus side, I don't think there were speling mixtakes.  I do hope I got those numbers right.

I'm so ancient that I indeed once used to work for a mail order company, and fitting variables into a pre-printed form was at the cutting edge then.

Mine just started:

Dear

No title, no names. Thought everyone's email was equally lacking.

Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #282 on: September 21, 2018, 07:28:36 pm »
Seems to me the Chairman doesn't give a f**k about the members and will just continue to do what he wants , this seems to include changing the rules to allow him to do what ever he wants

I am seriously considering canceling my events for 2019.  As this is no longer a club but a dictatorship! !!!

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Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #283 on: September 21, 2018, 07:38:33 pm »
Not even so much as a Reader's Digest special salutation:

Dear MR SMITH

Ah yes, that's down to me.  That salutation should have included your firstname but something went astray.   I'm afraid that MailChimp is a bit of a dark art for me, and there is probably a delegate position for someone who has a better grasp on the technology than me.  On the plus side, I don't think there were speling mixtakes.  I do hope I got those numbers right.

I'm so ancient that I indeed once used to work for a mail order company, and fitting variables into a pre-printed form was at the cutting edge then.

Mine just started:

Dear

No title, no names. Thought everyone's email was equally lacking.

Strikes me as indicative of the contempt thats been shown to the membership. Anonymous donors to the board's folly.

In  nutshell - the board knows best, board will do what they decide to do, and the board will increase their take for their hard efforts.



Cheers.
Rule 77

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Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #284 on: September 21, 2018, 07:39:59 pm »
Seems to me the Chairman doesn't give a f**k about the members and will just continue to do what he wants , this seems to include changing the rules to allow him to do what ever he wants

I am seriously considering canceling my events for 2019.  As this is no longer a club but a dictatorship! !!!

Hear, hear!
Rule 77

Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #285 on: September 21, 2018, 07:55:27 pm »
Audax is great and AUK is still a fine organisation with a good community and volunteers.   I also think it was about time we increased the subscription fee and validation fees.


This - AUK provides the infrastructure for what we do. It is bigger than the legal entity and is a wider community of enthusiasts and volunteers.

I think membership is stunningly good value even increased - it funds the framework that enables rides to happen, means organisers don't have to invent the wheel around so many aspects of the task and provides formats for us to enjoy our hobby.  As a moderniser who wants to see audaxing become more attractive to the cycling massives along with AUK hauled into the 21st century, the implementation of the new website will be an important milestone.



Separately - I know nothing about IT projects and am glad that I am not on the board having to work this one out.

And one more thing, on the AUK forum, the Club Sec has provided an interesting reply to a post from Manotea about the board's powers.  Might be worth a read - I don't know the truth of it but it must help focus debate.

Liam

I'm with you on this one.  Certainly I shall not be casting any stones .  Yes the IT project has gone less than smoothly but I would like to thank the board for their honesty and hardwork.  I am content to see my membership and validation fees increased to cover the cost, as AUK still offer extremely good value for money. 

Audax needs to be hauled into the 21st century to ensure that it capitalizes on the increase of cycling as a pastime and sport.  The new website will be an important element in the modernisation process.
KIDDERMINSTER KILLER AND CLEE AUDAX, 20th July 2019; SOUTH SALOPIAN, 5th Oct 2019. http://beaconrcc.org.uk/audaxes/

Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #286 on: September 21, 2018, 08:02:52 pm »
Strikes me as indicative of the contempt thats been shown to the membership. Anonymous donors to the board's folly.

Hardly. One volunteer was unable to make the mailing software do the right thing.

In  nutshell - the board knows best, board will do what they decide to do, and the board will increase their take for their hard efforts.

The board are volunteers and don't really get anything (the honoraria don't stretch to much!)

I'll continue to pay my membership even though I rarely ride any Audaxes at the moment (temporary membership would be considerably cheaper for me) and I rarely read Awoowoo (and would prefer to read it online anyway).
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Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #287 on: September 21, 2018, 08:58:38 pm »
Not even so much as a Reader's Digest special salutation:

Dear MR SMITH

Ah yes, that's down to me.  That salutation should have included your firstname but something went astray.   I'm afraid that MailChimp is a bit of a dark art for me, and there is probably a delegate position for someone who has a better grasp on the technology than me.  On the plus side, I don't think there were speling mixtakes.  I do hope I got those numbers right.

I'm so ancient that I indeed once used to work for a mail order company, and fitting variables into a pre-printed form was at the cutting edge then.

Mine just started:

Dear

No title, no names. Thought everyone's email was equally lacking.
At least you've both got emails. I'm still waiting for mine. Apparently not the only one.
sideways bounding monkey lounging under fruit tree

Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #288 on: September 21, 2018, 09:05:34 pm »
If you can't wait there is a link to it on the homepage of the AUK website.

http://www.aukweb.net/_resources/files/MESSAGE_FROM_THE_CHAIR_OF_AUDAX_UK.pdf

Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #289 on: September 21, 2018, 09:09:09 pm »
Me too, many be soon.

jiberjaber

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Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #290 on: September 21, 2018, 09:10:43 pm »
Not even so much as a Reader's Digest special salutation:

Dear MR SMITH

Ah yes, that's down to me.  That salutation should have included your firstname but something went astray.   I'm afraid that MailChimp is a bit of a dark art for me, and there is probably a delegate position for someone who has a better grasp on the technology than me.  On the plus side, I don't think there were speling mixtakes.  I do hope I got those numbers right.

I'm so ancient that I indeed once used to work for a mail order company, and fitting variables into a pre-printed form was at the cutting edge then.

Mine just started:

Dear

No title, no names. Thought everyone's email was equally lacking.

Strikes me as indicative of the contempt thats been shown to the membership. Anonymous donors to the board's folly.

In  nutshell - the board knows best, board will do what they decide to do, and the board will increase their take for their hard efforts.



Cheers.
Hmmm. How much do you think they are paid?
Regards,

Joergen

Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #291 on: September 21, 2018, 09:11:28 pm »
I think the point is why have only some of the members got the e.mail and not all.

jiberjaber

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Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #292 on: September 21, 2018, 09:19:11 pm »
Yes definitely the basis for a conspiracy theory... Perhaps there's a list .....
Regards,

Joergen

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #293 on: September 21, 2018, 09:23:16 pm »
...or maybe it's simply because the IT system isn't up to sending that many emails simultaneously.
sideways bounding monkey lounging under fruit tree

Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #294 on: September 21, 2018, 09:28:15 pm »
I rescued mine from the SPAM box.

jiberjaber

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Regards,

Joergen

Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #296 on: September 21, 2018, 09:29:27 pm »
Is our I.T System not up to the job :demon:

Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #297 on: September 21, 2018, 10:01:12 pm »
It's an external service called MailChimp. They send tens of millions of emails a day.

1. Spam filters may have moved it to the junk folder.
2. It's delayed due to a technical problem between Mailchimp and your email provider and the systems will try again periodically so there may be a temporary delay.
3. They don't have your correct email address.
4. It's a conspiracy and they purposely didn't email you.
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Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #298 on: September 21, 2018, 10:12:27 pm »
I’ve used MailChimp a few times for one of the organisations I’m on the board of. You can send test mailings out, and you can send lovely designed emails, with GDPR compliant stuff ‘n everything. It’s not particularly intuitive though. Until you know how to use it.

They’ll get a list of the rejected emails, and those that Unsubscribe. They’ll know how many maembers don’t have email addresses in their records.
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Re: AUK CHAIRMAN STATEMENT
« Reply #299 on: September 21, 2018, 10:52:30 pm »
Dictatorship? LOL!

Get a grip.