Author Topic: Baby names  (Read 2514 times)

Guy

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Re: Baby names
« Reply #50 on: November 29, 2018, 02:28:28 pm »
I think Slartibartfast is a perfectly good name for a boy
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Re: Baby names
« Reply #51 on: November 29, 2018, 02:33:23 pm »
And people who give their kids traditional names, but spell them in an absurd way can fuck right off....
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Re: Baby names
« Reply #52 on: November 29, 2018, 08:38:11 pm »
I present the panel today's tale of woe from Auntie.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46393501

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Re: Baby names
« Reply #53 on: November 29, 2018, 09:04:40 pm »
I don't anyone's going to object to "Dixon/Dickson" so what wrong with "Jaxon/Jackson"?

A new name has to start somewhere and I suppose that's the point, it's a new made up name and that's what people don't like. Maybe it's also to do with the fact these names are used by people of lower economic and social status.

There's also the use of a surname as a first name.

Actually I'm in favour of established traditional names, try spending your whole life having to tell other people how to say and spell your name. But if in years to come and most people have made up names, maybe that would become expected.


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Re: Baby names
« Reply #54 on: November 29, 2018, 09:51:21 pm »
Actually I'm in favour of established traditional names, try spending your whole life having to tell other people how to say and spell your name.

I can assure you that having a traditional name that happens to be a common everyday word is no help in persuading people to spell it correctly.

Pronunciation's always going to be a problem when people move between cultures.  Like people mispronouncing words because they've learned them form reading, I reckon that's in the class of good problems to have.
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Re: Baby names
« Reply #55 on: November 29, 2018, 10:11:22 pm »
That's the problem with stupidly alternatively spelt names, the kids will spend their lives having to explain how their name is spelt. Not, not like that. It's the sort of novelty that takes minutes to stumble headlong into tedium. And there's a lifetime of no, not like that ahead. Basically, as a parent, you've guaranteed your kid will, at some point, in the next couple of decades become a sociopath. And when the time comes for them to put you in a home, it'll be that one, the one even the council avoids. You funeral will consist of being tipped into a dumpster.

So, go ahead parent, I'm sure everyone will be in awe of your nomenclative creativity.
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Re: Baby names
« Reply #56 on: November 29, 2018, 10:20:19 pm »
There are 3 different ways of spelling my traditional forename, and 2 of the surname I picked up from Pingu, 3 if you count the English variant.
I don't expect anybody to spell my name correctly. Although with the English variant it does irritate me that people insist on taking out a consonant that is quite clearly enunciated.
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Re: Baby names
« Reply #57 on: November 29, 2018, 10:28:21 pm »
The Beardylings all have straight forward traditional names, Alice, Freddie, & Martha1. However, Ms Beardy the senior ditched our surname when she married earlier this year, not for her husbands name, but to a new one they made up themselves partly because she didn’t want his but mostly because ours needs to,be spelled out every time we have to give it to someone2. Dr Beardy (Mrs) frequently laments changing from her maiden name of Turner on marrying me for the same reason.

1. Though she introduces herself as Mo because she says she doesn’t like Martha  :(
2. Soft vowels and a silent consonant
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Re: Baby names
« Reply #58 on: November 29, 2018, 10:46:16 pm »
This week I was mostly laughing at my colleague who couldn't remember which of <name1> <name2> or <name2> <name1> they were supposed to be dealing with  ;D

Re: Baby names
« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2018, 10:46:30 pm »
People always think Irish names are wilfully peculiarly spelt but that's not true it's simple that Gaelic isn't English plus the fact that the Roman alphabet is rubbish at representing Gaelic. In fact Gaelic spelling is much more regular than English it's just not the same as English and why should it be any more than Polish or Finnish are. Its a completely unrelated language just using the same symbols for sounds.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: Baby names
« Reply #60 on: November 29, 2018, 10:56:35 pm »
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Re: Baby names
« Reply #61 on: November 30, 2018, 01:38:39 pm »
I present the panel today's tale of woe from Auntie.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-46393501

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I do wonder if the parents should be apologising for sentencing offspring to a lifetime of ridicule, rather than the airline, which fell into temptation.

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Re: Baby names
« Reply #62 on: November 30, 2018, 01:49:54 pm »
People always think Irish names are wilfully peculiarly spelt but that's not true it's simple that Gaelic isn't English plus the fact that the Roman alphabet is rubbish at representing Gaelic. In fact Gaelic spelling is much more regular than English it's just not the same as English and why should it be any more than Polish or Finnish are. Its a completely unrelated language just using the same symbols for sounds.

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Re: Baby names
« Reply #63 on: November 30, 2018, 02:12:59 pm »
Neither Suzy nor I was bothered for sealing our relationship with a contract (unless you count the mortgage which is, I think, much more binding. It’s definitely harder to get out of. Try telling the judge that you should be allowed to walk away because of the lender’s unreasonable behaviour).

So taking one or the other’s surname wasn’t even a question.

However, the boys had to have (I think) a surname. They got Suzy’s. I figured it was best given her Blue Peter daughter (one she made earlier).

I am only a little bit bothered that I’m the last in my line, name-wise. Neither am I overly precious of the Irish heritage that will be lost, or at least less obvious, as a result. But I admit to feeling that it was important to keep a link to the same in the boys’ given names, which is why their middle names are Oliver and Oscar respectively.

They are the O’ Jarvises.

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Re: Baby names
« Reply #64 on: November 30, 2018, 02:42:58 pm »
People always think Irish names are wilfully peculiarly spelt but that's not true it's simple that Gaelic isn't English plus the fact that the Roman alphabet is rubbish at representing Gaelic. In fact Gaelic spelling is much more regular than English it's just not the same as English and why should it be any more than Polish or Finnish are. Its a completely unrelated language just using the same symbols for sounds.
True but I think it's a bit more complicated than that.  ;) Gaelic spelling might be completely regular but it does use letters or letter combinations in ways that are totally different to other languages. While there is some variation in letter<>sound relationship from language to language, particularly with C, K, W, Q, X and Z, it's usually between a small range of options. If you take a name like "Niambh" using that "mbh" combo represent a "v" sound is completely weird compared to other languages. This might be due to the Roman alphabet not having suitable symbols to represent Gaelic sounds but it doesn't make it any easier for non-Gaels to read!
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Re: Baby names
« Reply #65 on: December 01, 2018, 07:36:52 am »
Ahem. Ahem. Would it be rude to point out that there are some entire languages that make themselves unpronounceable by ONLY using  C, K, W, Q, X and Z  and forgetting about those pesky vowels?

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Re: Baby names
« Reply #66 on: December 01, 2018, 11:03:15 pm »
Ahem. Ahem. Would it be rude to point out that there are some entire languages that make themselves unpronounceable by ONLY using  C, K, W, Q, X and Z  and forgetting about those pesky vowels?

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Re: Baby names
« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2018, 08:13:58 am »
Oh, and a friend of Miss Ham, name of Holly, has a girl child name of Ivy. New girl child arrival is named Lilly.

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Re: Baby names
« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2018, 08:59:41 am »
I can't say that mine is particularly difficult, but people seem to assume a hundred different Scandinavian spellings, or swap the first bit of surname for my given name, creating an entirely different alter ego.

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Re: Baby names
« Reply #69 on: December 07, 2018, 09:55:37 am »
One of our clients is called Ray Vaughan.  I wonder
a) how many baby Raymonds there are nowadays (answer: in 2017, 59, and 84 Rays)? and
b) were his parents Buddy Holly fans?

Re: Baby names
« Reply #70 on: December 07, 2018, 10:12:27 am »
Ahem. Ahem. Would it be rude to point out that there are some entire languages that make themselves unpronounceable by ONLY using  C, K, W, Q, X and Z  and forgetting about those pesky vowels?
You mean Hebrew? As it's a completely different alphabet, I'm not sure it's comparable.
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Re: Baby names
« Reply #71 on: December 07, 2018, 01:23:02 pm »
One of our clients is called Ray Vaughan.  I wonder
a) how many baby Raymonds there are nowadays (answer: in 2017, 59, and 84 Rays)? and
b) were his parents Buddy Holly fans?

Or fans of Stevie Ray Vaughan perhaps ?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Re: Baby names
« Reply #72 on: December 07, 2018, 01:32:08 pm »
I also thought of SRV.
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hellymedic

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Re: Baby names
« Reply #73 on: December 07, 2018, 02:54:12 pm »
Ahem. Ahem. Would it be rude to point out that there are some entire languages that make themselves unpronounceable by ONLY using  C, K, W, Q, X and Z  and forgetting about those pesky vowels?
You mean Hebrew? As it's a completely different alphabet, I'm not sure it's comparable.

Hebrew doesn't forget about pesky vowels. It implies them or puts them out of the main line of sight for beginners. It's got enough letters.

Re: Baby names
« Reply #74 on: December 07, 2018, 04:11:55 pm »
Ahem. Ahem. Would it be rude to point out that there are some entire languages that make themselves unpronounceable by ONLY using  C, K, W, Q, X and Z  and forgetting about those pesky vowels?
You mean Hebrew? As it's a completely different alphabet, I'm not sure it's comparable.

Hebrew doesn't forget about pesky vowels. It implies them or puts them out of the main line of sight for beginners. It's got enough letters.
I'm sure that's just Cudzo being wilfully protective of Polish. Szczęście.

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