Author Topic: Belgium rides 2019  (Read 1225 times)

LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Belgium rides 2019
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2018, 11:25:49 pm »
My bidons are 750-800ml each and I'm not interested in using bigger ones.

I reckon it is a bit crap to send folk out for 6-ish hours straight with no opportunity to get water.
Wheel meet again, don't know where, don't know when...

Smeth

  • less Grimpeur than Whimpeur...
Re: Belgium rides 2019
« Reply #26 on: October 05, 2018, 08:24:27 am »
My bidons are 750-800ml each and I'm not interested in using bigger ones.

I reckon it is a bit crap to send folk out for 6-ish hours straight with no opportunity to get water.


I reckon it is a bit crap to send folk out for 6-ish hours straight with no opportunity to get water.

Great info and advice from Rohnny on BoB. My little group topped up at Roubaix two full bottles each and the 130k September night ride (broken by a kip on a railway platform) didn't dent the water supplies that much. We didn't have to look for taps. At one point opening your mouth resulted  in an ample influx.

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Re: Belgium rides 2019
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2018, 09:12:46 am »
My bidons are 750-800ml each and I'm not interested in using bigger ones.

I reckon it is a bit crap to send folk out for 6-ish hours straight with no opportunity to get water.

If I know there is a 130K gap with no or limited possibilities to get water and I want/need to drink more than 2 bottles, I would buy extra water before entering that section. The same with the food supply. I would make sure I have enough to get through each section.

Maybe I need to cancel the 2 manned controls with food and beds so each participant knows he/she has to rely on their own judgement to get water/food/beds.
Or I need to find much more volunteers to run the event so I can set up controls every 50K. And charge 1 euro for every water bottle (because the entry fee for a BRM 1000 is limited at 10 euro by the national organisation. Only extra's may be charged).
As I said before: it is not club med.

Re: Belgium rides 2019
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2018, 09:21:20 am »
At the back of my rackpack I can usually stash a 1.5 liter bottle. Plus 3 0.75l bottles in the bottlecages. 4.25l should be enough for 130k. Even on a hot day. Riding a full 24 hours that would then in total be 12.75l for 24 hours.

LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Belgium rides 2019
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2018, 09:21:46 am »
You can do whatever you want to do. I still think it is a bit crap.

Some organisers of events I've ridden note on the routesheet that water is available at 'these locations that aren't obvious when riding past' or slightly off-route or the route is adjusted to go past taps or they stash water along the route (noted on the routesheet) or even have a secret control out of a car, with water.

Your national organisation is also a bit crap if it doesn't recognise that longer rides tend to have higher costs. 'One size fits all' is a bit silly at the extremes.
Wheel meet again, don't know where, don't know when...

Re: Belgium rides 2019
« Reply #30 on: October 05, 2018, 09:52:50 am »
My bidons are 750-800ml each and I'm not interested in using bigger ones.

I reckon it is a bit crap to send folk out for 6-ish hours straight with no opportunity to get water.

If I know there is a 130K gap with no or limited possibilities to get water and I want/need to drink more than 2 bottles, I would buy extra water before entering that section. The same with the food supply. I would make sure I have enough to get through each section.

Maybe I need to cancel the 2 manned controls with food and beds so each participant knows he/she has to rely on their own judgement to get water/food/beds.
Or I need to find much more volunteers to run the event so I can set up controls every 50K. And charge 1 euro for every water bottle (because the entry fee for a BRM 1000 is limited at 10 euro by the national organisation. Only extra's may be charged).
As I said before: it is not club med.
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quixoticgeek

  • Mostly Harmless
Re: Belgium rides 2019
« Reply #31 on: October 05, 2018, 10:35:16 am »

Usefully timed email today, NS, the Dutch railways, have announced that they are installing a water tap in every station. This gives another useful place to top up with water when our for a ride.

I've found that installing OSMand on my phone, and turning on the water tap POI layer, makes it easy to find water taps when out, not all taps are on there, and not all taps on there are working, but it's better than nothing.

J
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Re: Belgium rides 2019
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2018, 11:32:21 am »

Usefully timed email today, NS, the Dutch railways, have announced that they are installing a water tap in every station. This gives another useful place to top up with water when our for a ride.

I've found that installing OSMand on my phone, and turning on the water tap POI layer, makes it easy to find water taps when out, not all taps are on there, and not all taps on there are working, but it's better than nothing.

J

That's also what I was thinking about when the NS announced the new watertaps plan. It'll make overnight cycling a lot easier.

Re: Belgium rides 2019
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2018, 09:43:40 pm »
Checked the original sheet and yes, it's a typo - the list runs from now all the way through 2019. The 1200kms is in 2019. Apologies.

Other stuff -
No need to pre-register. Turn up and pay on the day
200kms €5
300kms €6
400kms €7
600kms €8
1000kms €10

The routes are outlined a few months in advance and the detail - GPS and paper route sheet - put on each page about 3-4 weeks before the day.

I think that's it. You can go back to the water bottle discussion now.


Bairdy

  • Former Pints Champion
Re: Belgium rides 2019
« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2018, 10:04:23 am »
I'll be looking into riding a 400 or 600 in Belgium next year.

British cyclists complaining about bad attitudes towards cyclists in Belgium?  ;D
I rode BoB in 2016 and never had a single issue in Belgium, in fact from memory a lot of the route was eerily quiet.
I had one driver get pissed off with me for riding on the road when there was a cycle path I could have used but I'd missed the opportunity to join it. (that was when the route went into Germany for a while).

I don't remember water being such a big issue either. I filled my two bottles and bought a 500ml one when I knew opportunities for water would be scarce (as advised by Rohnny).
It's a brilliant event organised by a team of only three people who put on two sleep controls, two bag drops and provide very good food. Yes it's tough, but the organisation and the advise given by them is brilliant.
"And I been up to my neck in pleasure
              Up to my neck in pain"

Re: Belgium rides 2019
« Reply #35 on: October 07, 2018, 12:30:44 am »
I know how much effort is involved in a 600K with ONE  feed/bag / sleep stop at 330k open for only 12 hours. Two late on in the event is a magnificent volunteer effort. We were fully briefed about facilities.

Re: Belgium rides 2019
« Reply #36 on: October 07, 2018, 07:00:13 am »
I'll be looking into riding a 400 or 600 in Belgium next year.

British cyclists complaining about bad attitudes towards cyclists in Belgium?  ;D
I rode BoB in 2016 and never had a single issue in Belgium, in fact from memory a lot of the route was eerily quiet.
I had one driver get pissed off with me for riding on the road when there was a cycle path I could have used but I'd missed the opportunity to join it. (that was when the route went into Germany for

I’ve ridden a fair bit in Belgium, and find it extraordinary how well car and lorry drivers respect cyclists, and give way to them ( which is usually the requirement)

There can be some grumpiness if the cyclist is using the road where there is a cycle path unless you are in a group with ride marshals, and a car with a big red triangle on the roof following.