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Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #25 on: October 18, 2018, 12:26:43 am »
I'm sure some hard-core Audaxers have done this, but being hard-core, they probably wouldn't even bother mentioning it.

The real hard-core lot would qualify with 4 x 1000, etc.
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Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2018, 07:03:49 am »
Amsterdam 400 (20-4) and Merselo 600 (11-5) are my scheduled 400 and 600s. I'm still waiting for the route of the Limoges 1000 before I decide if I'll add this ride.

Off thread but what is this Limoges 1000 - since I live there and we haven't heard of this in the club (normal, none of us ride that sort of thing!). Is it a 1000 with a turn at Limoges (and where(s the start)? Just for interest, I am not planning any audaxing next year. Of course if you do ride it and need a warm and dry spot to sleep, let me know (and if that's against the rules I could find a few bus shelters or church porches).

The only information I have of this ride is on the French forum: http://parisbrestparis2007.actifforum.com/t5875-brm-limoges
Pana-Loisirs Cyclo is offering a full BRM series this year, including the 1000km

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Prochainement un nouveau club vous permettra de réaliser des brevets à limoges Pana-loisirs cyclo

comme le vous savez certainement le club du RCA n'a pu avoir l'autorisation de les réaliser sur limoges. De ce fait je me suis rapproché d'un club UFOLEP pour organisé les BRM.

je peux déjà vous communiquer les dates :

200 D 24/03/2018 à 8 h00
300 D 07/04/2019 à 5h00
400 le M 01/05/2019 à 04h00
600 le S 18/05/2019 à 6h00
1000 le S 08/06/2019 à 6h00
le site sera alimenté prochainement des renseignements de ces brevets après validation de l'ACP.

Since a 1000k from Limoges can be very reasonable in sense of hills (if you go towards Bordeaux) or insanely hilly I wait for the route to be published before my final decision.
Thanks for the lodging offer, the offered starttime of 6am does cause some issues for full value riders for lodging after the ride so I'll keep the offer in mind.

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2018, 10:35:26 am »
You can qualify with 4 x 600 if you like.

*You* can qualify with 4 x 600 if you like.

I'm sure some hard-core Audaxers have done this, but being hard-core, they probably wouldn't even bother mentioning it.
If it was me, I'd be shouting from the roof-tops, and expect an entire edition of Arrivee to be dedicated to my incredible endeavour!

Jack Eason definitely qualified for at least two PBPs with 4x600s and it has always been my ambition to do the same. Sadly the best I've ever managed has been 3x600s and a 400 :-(

Be aware though, and I think I've mentioned this before, that in the last PBP although the on-line entry form allowed you to enter longer-distance events as evidence of your qualifying SR if you didn't enter a 200, 300, 400 and 600 you then didn't get the presentation SR medal. I've no idea if they've fixed this (bug) for 2019.
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Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2018, 10:45:45 am »
Be aware though, and I think I've mentioned this before, that in the last PBP although the on-line entry form allowed you to enter longer-distance events as evidence of your qualifying SR if you didn't enter a 200, 300, 400 and 600 you then didn't get the presentation SR medal. I've no idea if they've fixed this (bug) for 2019.

Is it a bug? I was under the impression (following other recent discussions) that unlike the AUK SR, the ACP SR doesn't allow you to substitute longer distances. So if you qualify with 4x600, that doesn't count as an SR.

I like the idea of doing multiple 600s and I've got a few marked as potentials in my calendar, but it will come down to whether or not I can fit them in. I've only achieved 3 SRs in 14 seasons of audaxing, and I've never managed to do more than one 600+ ride in a season until this year, but the constraints are always more practical than physical (although the physical constraints might become more significant if I were to attempt 600s on three consecutive weekends, which is what I'd have to do to achieve qualifying that way).

As far as PBP goes, my focus is on achieving the bare minimum of qualifying rides first and foremost. Anything on top of that will be a bonus.

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2018, 10:53:20 am »
Be aware though, and I think I've mentioned this before, that in the last PBP although the on-line entry form allowed you to enter longer-distance events as evidence of your qualifying SR if you didn't enter a 200, 300, 400 and 600 you then didn't get the presentation SR medal. I've no idea if they've fixed this (bug) for 2019.

Is it a bug? I was under the impression (following other recent discussions) that unlike the AUK SR, the ACP SR doesn't allow you to substitute longer distances. So if you qualify with 4x600, that doesn't count as an SR.

That's why I put "bug" in brackets. I personally think that substituting longer rides should still count as an SR but I recognise that others might not.
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Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2018, 11:12:04 am »
I personally think that substituting longer rides should still count as an SR but I recognise that others might not.

It's the kind of bureaucratic nicety in which the French specialise. Bof!

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Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2018, 01:08:59 pm »
... I've never managed to do more than one 600+ ride in a season until this year, but the constraints are always more practical than physical (although the physical constraints might become more significant if I were to attempt 600s on three consecutive weekends, which is what I'd have to do to achieve qualifying that way).

FWIW, I found that consecutive 600s up to 3 got easier (really flying on the 3rd) but after the 3rd the legs started to feel heavy.  I did 5x consecutive weekends in a season when a few people did 6x, and have done 3x consecutive in 2 other years.  Long time ago needless to add.
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Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2018, 01:53:18 pm »
... I've never managed to do more than one 600+ ride in a season until this year, but the constraints are always more practical than physical (although the physical constraints might become more significant if I were to attempt 600s on three consecutive weekends, which is what I'd have to do to achieve qualifying that way).

FWIW, I found that consecutive 600s up to 3 got easier (really flying on the 3rd) but after the 3rd the legs started to feel heavy.  I did 5x consecutive weekends in a season when a few people did 6x, and have done 3x consecutive in 2 other years.  Long time ago needless to add.

I suppose aside from how fit you are to start with, a lot depends on what you do in the five days in between rides. I imagine you'd probably need to do some kind of 'active recovery' (low intensity riding) to keep the legs ticking over and not seizing up. And getting lots and lots of sleep would be vital.

I've run two marathons in my life and they were on consecutive weekends. It took me about six months to recover fully from that. I certainly wouldn't consider trying that again without better preparation.

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #33 on: October 18, 2018, 06:58:46 pm »
Amsterdam 400 (20-4) and Merselo 600 (11-5) are my scheduled 400 and 600s. I'm still waiting for the route of the Limoges 1000 before I decide if I'll add this ride.

Off thread but what is this Limoges 1000 - since I live there and we haven't heard of this in the club (normal, none of us ride that sort of thing!). Is it a 1000 with a turn at Limoges (and where(s the start)? Just for interest, I am not planning any audaxing next year. Of course if you do ride it and need a warm and dry spot to sleep, let me know (and if that's against the rules I could find a few bus shelters or church porches).

The only information I have of this ride is on the French forum: http://parisbrestparis2007.actifforum.com/t5875-brm-limoges
Pana-Loisirs Cyclo is offering a full BRM series this year, including the 1000km

Quote
Prochainement un nouveau club vous permettra de réaliser des brevets à limoges Pana-loisirs cyclo

comme le vous savez certainement le club du RCA n'a pu avoir l'autorisation de les réaliser sur limoges. De ce fait je me suis rapproché d'un club UFOLEP pour organisé les BRM.

je peux déjà vous communiquer les dates :

200 D 24/03/2018 à 8 h00
300 D 07/04/2019 à 5h00
400 le M 01/05/2019 à 04h00
600 le S 18/05/2019 à 6h00
1000 le S 08/06/2019 à 6h00
le site sera alimenté prochainement des renseignements de ces brevets après validation de l'ACP.

Since a 1000k from Limoges can be very reasonable in sense of hills (if you go towards Bordeaux) or insanely hilly I wait for the route to be published before my final decision.
Thanks for the lodging offer, the offered starttime of 6am does cause some issues for full value riders for lodging after the ride so I'll keep the offer in mind.

The offer holds at both ends (although there must be 150m climbing between me and Panazol, in both directions, damn river to cross). A start at Panazol doesn't put you in the best disposition for a sensible route, climbing wise.
I note that on the Super Randonneur forum it is noted as waiting ACP approval. Having seen a bit more I could see various complications from a political viewpoint which have no place here. I will PM you with a bit of background. I am not sure that a UFOLEP club can run a BRM. But I would still like to meet you in Limoges!

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #34 on: October 18, 2018, 09:51:26 pm »
Amsterdam 400 (20-4) and Merselo 600 (11-5) are my scheduled 400 and 600s. I'm still waiting for the route of the Limoges 1000 before I decide if I'll add this ride.

Off thread but what is this Limoges 1000 - since I live there and we haven't heard of this in the club (normal, none of us ride that sort of thing!). Is it a 1000 with a turn at Limoges (and where(s the start)? Just for interest, I am not planning any audaxing next year. Of course if you do ride it and need a warm and dry spot to sleep, let me know (and if that's against the rules I could find a few bus shelters or church porches).

The only information I have of this ride is on the French forum: http://parisbrestparis2007.actifforum.com/t5875-brm-limoges
Pana-Loisirs Cyclo is offering a full BRM series this year, including the 1000km

Quote
Prochainement un nouveau club vous permettra de réaliser des brevets à limoges Pana-loisirs cyclo

comme le vous savez certainement le club du RCA n'a pu avoir l'autorisation de les réaliser sur limoges. De ce fait je me suis rapproché d'un club UFOLEP pour organisé les BRM.

je peux déjà vous communiquer les dates :

200 D 24/03/2018 à 8 h00
300 D 07/04/2019 à 5h00
400 le M 01/05/2019 à 04h00
600 le S 18/05/2019 à 6h00
1000 le S 08/06/2019 à 6h00
le site sera alimenté prochainement des renseignements de ces brevets après validation de l'ACP.

Since a 1000k from Limoges can be very reasonable in sense of hills (if you go towards Bordeaux) or insanely hilly I wait for the route to be published before my final decision.
Thanks for the lodging offer, the offered starttime of 6am does cause some issues for full value riders for lodging after the ride so I'll keep the offer in mind.

The offer holds at both ends (although there must be 150m climbing between me and Panazol, in both directions, damn river to cross). A start at Panazol doesn't put you in the best disposition for a sensible route, climbing wise.
I note that on the Super Randonneur forum it is noted as waiting ACP approval. Having seen a bit more I could see various complications from a political viewpoint which have no place here. I will PM you with a bit of background. I am not sure that a UFOLEP club can run a BRM. But I would still like to meet you in Limoges!

As a randonneur who's trained with the Union Audax Tournai I'm quite wel versed with the political minefiled of French cycling ;)
The Panaxol club wouldn't be the first Ufoloep club though to organise a BRM. Seeing how few French clubs are organisng outside of the northeren, Parisian and Breton regions, I guess that the ACP will be happy with any well organised club.

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #35 on: November 22, 2018, 11:08:35 am »
It was a long wait but the routesheet and the track are available. A completely different direction as last year, now heading to Bayonne. Sounds very interesting, let's see what my boss tells me tomorrow when I apply for the long weekend off.

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #36 on: November 22, 2018, 08:23:41 pm »
Coming back through the Landes could be interesting, a very good chance of having the wind on your back in the second half!.

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #37 on: December 03, 2018, 03:35:10 pm »
The planning department accepted my leave request, so now only the 300, 400 and 600 to do before I'll start the Limoges 1000.

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #38 on: December 05, 2018, 08:27:17 pm »
If anyone else on here happens to fancy this ride I am available for local logistical help, should it be necessary. I would presume (perhaps a little optimistic after Brexit) that planes will still fly to Limoges. By train Eurostar to Lille, TGV to Poitiers is better than Eurostar to Paris 'cos you don't have to change stations.

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Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2018, 07:53:49 pm »
Bollocks! My parents have gone and planned a 50th wedding anniversary party the same weekend as my chosen 600 qualifier (Wander Wye). Probably wouldn't be a good idea to miss that.

Luckily, it seems a new 600 has been added to the calendar since I last looked - "Willesden's Last Gasp" starting from King's Cross station, at a time that allows me to travel directly to the start by train... Yay! Entered!

Did briefly consider having another dig at the Brimstone 600 but it's the same weekend as the Back to the Smoke 400, which I've already entered. Shame!

I've also put in my entry for the Invicta Phoenix 400.

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Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2018, 01:28:48 pm »
LWL and Wander Wye. I've not entered 200s or 300s yet but I'm hoping there's plenty to go around.

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2018, 04:08:27 pm »
Dauntsey Dawdle 400km and Windsor-Chester-Windsor 600km

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #42 on: January 07, 2019, 11:35:43 pm »
I`m going for an all french qualifying series for 2019.
Evron 200Km on 7th April at 08:00hrs (Openrunner 9223957),
Ernee 300Km on 13th April at 06:00hrs (Openrunner 7955150),
Laval 400Km on 4th May at 06:00hrs (Openrunner 9166911),
Lamballe 600Km 22nd June at 06:00hrs (Openrunner 2169087 & 2169369)

Has anyone else done or thinking about doing any of these?
Its not against the rules to sleep in your own bed on a 600Km Audax, is it? Its only because it passes my front door at 244Km and then again at 446Km on the return leg, so I was thinking that I might use it for my meals and my sleep stop.

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #43 on: January 15, 2019, 12:15:25 pm »
I am setting the bar high for my qualifiers... as last year it was all pretty much flat rides so setting myself a challenge here with some Welsh climbs.

400 - Brevet Cymru
600 - Benjamin Allens Summer outing

Fallbacks/double ups: the Lincolnshire Poacher (400) and A Pair of Kirtons (600).
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Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #44 on: January 15, 2019, 08:53:23 pm »
Dauntsey Dawdle 400km and Windsor-Chester-Windsor 600km

These two.  I also have an Easter Arrow end of April to get the legs warmed up to the distance without concerning myself about PBP qualifying on that ride.  I haven't booked any fallbacks but there are enough options for me to book into in June if need be.

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Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2019, 06:39:42 pm »
I am now doing the BC 400 at the start of May. Three weekends in a row 400 - 400 - 600. I might be a little tired at the end.  :(
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Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #46 on: January 22, 2019, 09:23:15 am »
16-Mar: Monster Munch 200;
6-Apr: Turra Coo 300;
26-Apr: Auld Alliance 400;
11-May: Hellfire Corner 400;
8-Jun: North Coast Classic 600.

Yes, I have noticed there's a spare 400 in there!

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #47 on: January 22, 2019, 09:49:37 am »
200 winter boat ride
300 the Dean
600 Bryan Chapman memorial
400 back to the smoke
300 wonderfully wessex
300 London orbital
600 the buzzard (backup 400/600)
   Eddington  87 miles

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #48 on: January 22, 2019, 10:24:40 am »
600 the buzzard (backup 400/600)

I think the distances need to be exact, so you can't ride a 600 as your 400. So you might want to earmark a second 400 also.

Re: What are your 400 and 600 qualifying events
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2019, 11:00:35 am »
600 the buzzard (backup 400/600)

I think the distances need to be exact, so you can't ride a 600 as your 400. So you might want to earmark a second 400 also.

You may replace a shorter distance by a longer.