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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #50 on: November 13, 2018, 07:45:47 am »
Reviving this thread. Looking for advice on which smart home thermostat to choose.
I live in a two bedroom two bathroom apartment. I find that the temperature is never right in our lounge, which has two radiators but is complicated by having an enormous window facing south which captures heat when it is sunny.
I have a gas condensing boiler. The boiler is connected directly to a wall unit marked Salus in the cupboard. There is a remote wireless unit which is used to set the temperature.

I recently got an Amazon Echo Dot, so any smart system should be Amazon compatible.
I rather like the idea of wireless remote control TRVs, so we could maybe heat the bedrooms on demand and keep them cooler otherwise.
I am a British Gas customer, but not particularly sold on the Hive system unless folks think it is the bees knees.

Also ideally I would like a smart system which recognises when Mrs Scum comes home and switches up the heating for her.
I guess just Mrs S asking "Alexa - turn on the heating" would be sufficient.










Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2018, 07:54:08 am »
Don’t know if it’s Alexa compatible as I don’t have Alexa or equivalent, but I like our Honeywell Evohome setup. I did it myself as plumber thought it ‘too complicated’. Individual room control with no need to Felipe.

Mike

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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2018, 08:05:49 am »
Well, they're fitting my Hive next week. Seemed to tick the boxes. I'm don't especially see the point of voice-control unless you'd habitually left tied naked to the bed by Madame Spankopoulis (while she pops out to Sainsbury's to stock up on whipped cream) and the bedroom is prone to the occasional drafty chill. In which case, it's probably useful to have Alexa turn up the heating. Or you could just get the whipped cream beforehand. Generally, I get dressed before addressing Alexa, it feels weird otherwise.

Turning it up and down and on-off remotely seems the best thing. I think it has geofencing, but generally having it turning on when I'm at the bottom of the drive isn't useful. Probably has some kind of radius feature though.



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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2018, 01:44:01 pm »
Hi
That could be because the room temperature is 25 degrees. If that's not the case then you would need to replace it. It's very easy to install. We recommend the programmable thermostat for its energy saving features. You can set it to go on just before you get home and to go off when no one is home.
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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2018, 03:47:51 pm »
I'm thinking I'll go for Tado. You can get the generic install with one thermostat, which makes it like a Hive/Nest, but you can also add thermostatic radiator valves for controlling temperature room by room (or floor by floor - we have a townhouse, so 3 floors).
I'm sitting on my hands and waiting for Black Friday to see if there are any deals though (there were for Hive and Nest in Amazon last year).

Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2018, 04:20:41 pm »
Weve had a Nest for a while here. Extremely handy to be able to adjust the temperature from the comfort of the sofa, or when in bed. When we are all out it turns the tmperature down to 17.5C which is the lowest my cats will tolerate.

If you’re on your way home from an Audax / wet dog walk/ soaking motorbike ride you can pre-heat the house to 26C for your arrival. A bit disconcerting for anyone already in the house sometimes  ;D

I like the way the Nest app also has your Nest camera feeds in it so dont need a separate app for that. I wish our Philips Hue lighting was within the same app too really.

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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #56 on: November 13, 2018, 04:58:50 pm »
It could all go wrong if one inadvertently turns on the camera rather than the heating while waiting for Madame S to pop back from Sainsbury's.
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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2018, 05:02:09 pm »
When we are all out it turns the tmperature down to 17.5C which is the lowest my cats will tolerate.

I'm sorry, but I have to ask, how do you know? Do you come home to them all piled on top of each other while wearing your hats & scarves?  ;D ;D
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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #58 on: November 13, 2018, 08:15:36 pm »
They write protest letters and then, if ignored, bring out the placards and slogans.

Mine are going to hate me, especially Bad Cat if she can't belly-hammock the living room radiator.
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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #59 on: November 13, 2018, 10:47:42 pm »
When we are all out it turns the tmperature down to 17.5C which is the lowest my cats will tolerate.

I'm sorry, but I have to ask, how do you know? Do you come home to them all piled on top of each other while wearing your hats & scarves?  ;D ;D

Our 3 Ragdolls, whilst mostly non-verbal and lacking opposable thumbs are extremely good at communicating displeasure to their huuumins  ;D

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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2018, 04:03:18 pm »
I'm thinking I'll go for Tado. You can get the generic install with one thermostat, which makes it like a Hive/Nest, but you can also add thermostatic radiator valves for controlling temperature room by room (or floor by floor - we have a townhouse, so 3 floors).
I'm sitting on my hands and waiting for Black Friday to see if there are any deals though (there were for Hive and Nest in Amazon last year).
I like the flexibility of individual room thermostats. I would probably bite the bullet on the expense and go with Tado if I were starting this process all over again - as I've said somewhere here before, I've got a German system (bought through Conrad) that works very well for me, but that I'd find it really hard to recommend to anyone else.
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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #61 on: November 23, 2018, 10:55:37 am »
Finally got my Hive thing. The engineer ran off before he'd finished it (5.30pm wasn't it) with the words 'it just takes a bit of time to pair' which meant the thermostat was still attempting this an hour later like some kind of tiring electronic foreplay.

It's a bugger to set up since three devices have to talk to each other which involves getting them all into pairing mode, which involves a festival of precise clicking and holding of random buttons. The only exception is the hub which has a pairing button. Which, of course, appears mostly undocumented. Some of it comes close to taking the piss, holding two stiff buttons on the thermostat while inserting the batteries (which was evidently unnecessary, just rebooting the thermostat was fine). Designers of consumer hardware take note – pairing a Sonos speaker, for instance, involves pressing a single button and getting a cheerfully responsive ding.

Anyway, some time and swearing later... Top tip, lock the doors until you're sure the engineer has finished everything.

Seems fine, warm stuff came out as planned and the shower was hot. Only real other gripe is the scheduler which doesn't let you schedule past midnight in any intuitive way (you have to 'pull' the slot from the next day) – fine once you know how, but a bit of a software fail that left me scratching my head for several minutes. Otherwise, it's all fairly straightforward to control via the app and a lot better than the clunky old wall-mounted controller. You can nudge your schedules about quite easily, like this morning as my wife is working from home, so it's a few seconds to start the heating at 7.30 rather than 5.30am. Previously that would have involved twenty minutes with the options on the controller which frankly I wouldn't have bothered with.

You can turn it on by shouting at Alexa. Unfortunately, you can't switch it back to the schedule by shouting at Alexa. This seems to be the curse of every Alexa skill though, you can do but never undo. It's like the developer of every skill does half and then breaks for lunch and never comes back (which I suppose has a kind of symmetry). To be fair, quite useful if you wake up before the heating is scheduled to come on – previously you'd have to risk hypothermia and tripping over a cat headfirst down the stairs in your rush to press the advance button in hallway cupboard.

Yeah, yet another bloody hub in the technological cupboard of shame under the stairs.
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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #62 on: November 23, 2018, 05:03:40 pm »
Have Hive. Pretty happy with it. About 18 months after fitted, when the battery drained in 2 weeks I phoned them and they fixed it remotely for me. I remember thinking that their phone support was superb, but I've no idea why.

Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #63 on: November 23, 2018, 05:10:13 pm »
'home' has a Nest.
It also has a (functioning) dishwasher, a large fancy fridge, two freezers and more pots and pans than you can shake a stick at.

I'm living in a househare that doesn't even have radiators in all the rooms, the central heating goes off completely at 10:30, the fridge doesn't work (I have one shelf) and there is one decent pan (mine).

Remind me again why fuck I'm doing this?
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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #64 on: November 23, 2018, 06:25:26 pm »
I dunno. Is there a sexy robot?
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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #65 on: November 23, 2018, 06:34:40 pm »
It's worth noting that anyone who's feeling excited by the prospect of smart home heating should buy today when it's lots of money off.

Eg. link

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Re: Central heating thermostat
« Reply #66 on: February 21, 2019, 09:00:07 pm »
BG sent me a Hive leak sensor. What the hell, it was free, so I stuck on the pipe as instructed.

Don't bother. It's actually a highly efficient false alarm detector.
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