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Bizarre double decker bike racks
« on: November 14, 2018, 06:12:29 pm »
As recently installed at Tiverton Parkway




The top section slides back and then you are supposed to lift the bike on it at chest height

I've never seen all the old racks full at Tiverton Parkway.  I'm not even sure that this does provide more places to lock up than Sheffield stands

Oh, and the metal bit to lock up doesn't align terribly well for using a U lock
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2018, 06:17:22 pm »
Standard fare at larger Dutch railway stations. The upper one tilts down once fully extended, works perfectly for me, I voluntarily even choose an upper berth for my bike.

Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2018, 08:19:08 pm »
Seen them in Holland. And Hemel Hempstead. In fact they've been here for years and, in my limited experience, they're great.

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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2018, 08:28:44 pm »
They've been installed at London train stations for years.
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2018, 08:33:21 pm »
^This.

Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2018, 08:46:04 pm »
There's something very similar at Parkway too. As Ivo says, the top racks should sort of swing down to ground level. Probably easier (less hard) to do than a dangly train space! Unless these are a new half-arsed design which doesn't do that?
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #6 on: November 14, 2018, 10:34:03 pm »
My understanding is that this type of rack comes in two flavours: Decently Engineered, and Finest Cheese.

Which should be obvious after a year or so of use.
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2018, 08:52:01 am »
They're also in Westfield (Stratford) which has a surprising amount of cycle parking.

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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2018, 03:30:25 pm »
Bzzzzt!

Repetition!

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=55441.msg1325146#msg1325146

After all, Sheffield has made a name for itself wrt bicycle parking???

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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2018, 04:06:30 pm »
Standard fare at larger Dutch railway stations. The upper one tilts down once fully extended, works perfectly for me, I voluntarily even choose an upper berth for my bike.

Beware the not fully extended upper deck spoinging back upwards and clouting the unwary cyclist a clip, causing an erruption of Bad Swears. DAMHIKT.
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2018, 04:16:04 pm »
They've even reached as far as the Fens, I make sure I lock my bike whilst still wearing my helmet as I alway bang my noggin on the upper rack when using the lower one.
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2018, 04:37:28 pm »
Installed years ago in York. Also seen in Cambridge, Ely etc.

Strong people should use the top deck, leaving the lower deck for those not-so-strong.

Main defect with those racks is the spacing; two adjacent bikes with 'town' handlebars will tangle levers and cables.
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2018, 10:02:12 pm »
Also in large numbers, but still full, in Chelmsford.

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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2018, 12:28:39 am »


How quaint.

We've got a few tens of thousands of these in Utrecht. A nice idea, but I've not yet found the courage to lock any of my bikes up in a city centre, so have yet to use them for myself.

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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2018, 10:57:53 am »
use them up here at Media city. They telescope out then pivot downwards. Load the bike in, pull up then slide shut and apply lock. They do benefit from occasional squirts of GT85 or similar product.

Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #15 on: November 16, 2018, 11:10:12 am »
I know we have them at Haymarket and Livingston North stations, and I assume elsewhere as well.
They're a pain to lock a bike to, if you have a D-lock.

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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2018, 12:29:55 pm »
We've had then since the station makeover. Never used them, just cos I haven't needed to park there for years.

Having had a bike nicked from the old station, I'm inclined to think your bike is much safer* on the upper deck than in "normal" parking. But perhaps I don't think like a bike thief - do we have any here to comment??

(Note "MUCH SAFER" - which does not mean IMMUNE TO THEFT ! )
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2018, 03:26:43 pm »
I think it was this type of rack at Reading station where locked up bikes were being nicked. The lock hoop is, or was, bolted on the side of the main rail.

Ah yes:
https://www.inyourarea.co.uk/news/bike-stolen-from-reading-station-along-with-part-of-the-rack/
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2018, 07:25:01 pm »
Oh dear  >:(

Can our Utrecht correspondent provide any data?
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2018, 09:42:25 pm »
Oh dear  >:(

Can our Utrecht correspondent provide any data?

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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2018, 04:17:25 pm »
The upper one tilts down once fully extended

I will aggressively try and do this.  When I had an experimental play with it, this didn't seem to happen
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2018, 11:44:25 am »
Strong people should use the top deck, leaving the lower deck for those not-so-strong.
if only they did
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2018, 12:11:47 pm »
there were motorbikes parked on the concrete apron in front of all the racks, making it impossible to pull down the upper layer
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2018, 01:15:06 pm »
Video from Bicycle Dutch showing them in action in Delft.

https://bicycledutch.wordpress.com/2018/11/20/the-delft-bicycle-parking-facility-revisited/

Bottom video
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Re: Bizarre double decker bike racks
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2018, 01:37:03 pm »
Watching that video shows the security concerns mentioned earlier. Wouldn't want to leave a bike there with QR wheels.
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