Author Topic: New audax.uk site  (Read 12620 times)

BeMoreMike

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New audax.uk site
« on: November 19, 2018, 07:44:37 pm »
I stumbled across it earlier, have just spent the last hour browsing and like what I've seen so far.

I especially like the Perm section and the detailed explanations of how to DIY. It all looks like a good base to keep improving from.

When was the new site launched ? I missed all the fanfair and didn't see any mention on the old aukweb site which i've kept blundering around on.



Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #1 on: November 19, 2018, 07:59:56 pm »
All explained and very well presented at the Stirling presentation weekend.  Our thanks to all involved  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #2 on: November 19, 2018, 08:14:46 pm »
I like it. The url is more logical. The layout is clearer, at least in impact. And I see the code letters for facilities and so on have been replaced by pictograms with explanation. All looks open and inviting (well, it's still audax, so inviting within the realms of geekiness at least!).
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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2018, 08:18:12 pm »
Hmmm. I just had a look.  I was brought up not to be rude in public.  So, given my view of what's there and how much time and money has gone into this, I'll have to keep quiet.

Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2018, 08:27:11 pm »
Hmmm. I just had a look.  I was brought up not to be rude in public.  So, given my view of what's there and how much time and money has gone into this, I'll have to keep quiet.

Good or bad, it isn't functioning yet.  It's £90k's worth of respray and they haven't yet touched the engine or the chassis.

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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2018, 09:01:50 pm »
Hmmm. I just had a look.  I was brought up not to be rude in public.  So, given my view of what's there and how much time and money has gone into this, I'll have to keep quiet.

But you were taught to tell the truth, no?

The layout is clearer, at least in impact.

Until you realise that instead all the perms being on one page, you have to guess which one of the 36 pages the perm your looking for is on.
Or which of the 21 calendar pages you might like to sample instead of having them all in a nice neat list in one place.
In both instances it is a bit better on a laptop with only 13 and 21 pages to randomly shoot at.

I like the pictograms. I'm happy AUK realise hieroglyphics went out of common usage circa the 4th century, and to be inclusive to the younger generations, we have a handy description for them.

I especially like the Perm section and the detailed explanations of how to DIY. It all looks like a good base to keep improving from.


It's a spruced up version of what we already had. Nothing new.



Good or bad, it isn't functioning yet.  It's £90k's worth of respray and they haven't yet touched the engine or the chassis.

And therein lies the problem.

I wasn't privy to the grand unveiling, and I'm not doubting a hell of a lot of hard work has gone into this, but can somebody please tell me what I've missed?



To say that all of what has happened has been nought more than spraying perfume on a rose seems a bit unfair. But it's some expensive perfume as far as I can see.
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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2018, 09:09:05 pm »
I can't find a new one, when I search I just get this; http://www.aukweb.net/, can someone post the new URL?

Ian

Edit found it: http://www.audax.uk/

2nd Edit: I'm even on the front page  :o

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2018, 09:14:37 pm »
I never look at perms, but having read that and looked, I see 22 pages. I don't know it's 22 for me and 36 for someone else. Screen size?
Calendar events are listed chronologically over several pages on both audax.uk and aukweb.net. You get fewer on a page with the new site partly, it seems, because each entry is listed with a little more information (actual distance, AAA points and whether you can enter by Paypal) in the listings and partly because the font is significantly larger.  Arguably the "view event" button at the end of each line is a waste of space as opposed to just clicking the event. The map view should be more useful than the old "sort by region" simply because the regions were so large as to be meaningless (and some of the placenames rather obscure) but it might have been nice to carry the colour coding for distance over to the map pins too.
Overall though the thing looks much more "open" than the old site.
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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2018, 09:21:16 pm »
I never look at perms, but having read that and looked, I see 22 pages. I don't know it's 22 for me and 36 for someone else. Screen size?
Calendar events are listed chronologically over several pages on both audax.uk and aukweb.net. You get fewer on a page with the new site partly, it seems, because each entry is listed with a little more information (actual distance, AAA points and whether you can enter by Paypal) in the listings and partly because the font is significantly larger.  Arguably the "view event" button at the end of each line is a waste of space as opposed to just clicking the event. The map view should be more useful than the old "sort by region" simply because the regions were so large as to be meaningless (and some of the placenames rather obscure) but it might have been nice to carry the colour coding for distance over to the map pins too.
Overall though the thing looks much more "open" than the old site.

It's the higher figure on my iPad. I agree with your figures on the laptop.
Distance, AAA and PayPal are all visible on the old site.
Place names haven't changed as far as I'm aware. Great Bromley is still near Colchester, Kings Worthy is still near Winchester.
On the old page, you can choose to have up to 2years of events. Much more convenient. I assume this feature would have pushed us over budget though.

Oh wait......




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wilkyboy

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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2018, 09:21:39 pm »
2nd Edit: I'm even on the front page  :o

And a nice link to Cambridge Audax, too — thank you!
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wilkyboy

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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2018, 09:23:43 pm »
Until you realise that instead all the perms being on one page, you have to guess which one of the 36 pages the perm your looking for is on.

And since I'm a "W" then my Cambridge perms are aaaaaallll the f!cking way down at the end!! FFS — this new site is going to absolutely crucify the number of "ooh that looks nice" speculative entries I get, because users have got to work so damn' hard to find them!
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wilkyboy

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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2018, 09:25:57 pm »
And I went looking for my own results — it wasn't all that obvious where they'd got to, and the sorting order leaves a LOT to be desired with ECEs separated from events on busy days — did nobody on the team think to ask Francis what the sort order should be and WHY?!! — EDIT — it turns out the sort order's not perfect on the old site either and it was my mistake to suggest it was, sorry  ::-)  The use of "accordions" to hide the results on entry to "my" page is still a UX annoyance, though.
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wilkyboy

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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2018, 09:27:06 pm »
And what about HTTPS?  Does nobody on "the web team" understand what that is and what it means with respect to Google searches?! 

And what it means with respect to the rather punitive GDPR?!
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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2018, 09:28:24 pm »
Until you realise that instead all the perms being on one page, you have to guess which one of the 36 pages the perm your looking for is on.

And since I'm a "W" then my Cambridge perms are aaaaaallll the f!cking way down at the end!! FFS — this new site is going to absolutely crucify the number of "ooh that looks nice" speculative entries I get, because users have got to work so damn' hard to find them!

Was it not supposed to be easier to navigate though?
If one of the criteria to entice was to make the website easier to use, I don't understand how 36pages is easier than one?
And be thankful, it's not an "L". Wow, you'd be stuck on, page [just checking.....] ;)

And what about HTTPS?  Does nobody on "the web team" understand what that is and what it means with respect to Google searches?! 

And what it means with respect to the rather punitive GDPR?!

Punitive restrictions. They are everywhere nowadays. I'm sure won't be able to edit posts soon enough.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2018, 09:30:29 pm »
I never look at perms, but having read that and looked, I see 22 pages. I don't know it's 22 for me and 36 for someone else. Screen size?
Calendar events are listed chronologically over several pages on both audax.uk and aukweb.net. You get fewer on a page with the new site partly, it seems, because each entry is listed with a little more information (actual distance, AAA points and whether you can enter by Paypal) in the listings and partly because the font is significantly larger.  Arguably the "view event" button at the end of each line is a waste of space as opposed to just clicking the event. The map view should be more useful than the old "sort by region" simply because the regions were so large as to be meaningless (and some of the placenames rather obscure) but it might have been nice to carry the colour coding for distance over to the map pins too.
Overall though the thing looks much more "open" than the old site.

It's the higher figure on my iPad. I agree with your figures on the laptop.
Distance, AAA and PayPal are all visible on the old site.
Not immediately. For instance the first event I see is:
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Fri 23 Nov 2018
300kmMoonrakers & Sunseekers from Easton, Bristol
on the old site, but:
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Fri 23 Nov 2018   Easton, Bristol   300km (306km)   Moonrakers & Sunseekers   2300m   0   22:00   £13.50   Will Pomeroy   
on the new site.
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Place names haven't changed as far as I'm aware. Great Bromley is still near Colchester, Kings Worthy is still near Winchester.
I hope AUK hasn't gone round changing place names. It would make a mess of route sheets! But the map allows you to see geographically where rides start from without having to know names like Great Bromley or Kings Worthy. 
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On the old page, you can choose to have up to 2years of events. Much more convenient.
Yes, that could be handy.
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I assume this feature would have pushed us over budget though.

Oh wait......




As you can tell, I'm a fan.
I think budget discussion is elsewhere. I'm looking at the site trying not to think about how much it cost.
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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #15 on: November 19, 2018, 09:34:58 pm »
I'm looking at the site trying not to think about how much it cost.

Me too.
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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2018, 09:48:34 pm »
But the map allows you to see geographically where rides start from without having to know names like Great Bromley or Kings Worthy. 

A map view split over 13 pages  ::-) yes, that works  :facepalm:
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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2018, 10:15:44 pm »
The IT experts (the ones that did nothing to help but know everything thats wrong and how to fix it) will be along soon. 

<goes to get popcorn>

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2018, 10:33:51 pm »
The map pages seem to be chronological, like the list, though it's not explicit.
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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2018, 10:39:11 pm »
Your need a large bucket of popcorn  :demon:

Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2018, 10:51:38 pm »
I notice the login credentials of Aukweb do not work for me on the new audax.uk site login. Maybe a teasing issue? Resetting just redirects back the forgotten password on Aukweb.

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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2018, 10:54:09 pm »

Ugh. Nnnnngh

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Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #22 on: November 19, 2018, 10:57:38 pm »
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Page 1 of 13 (311 event(s) found)
                       ^^^

Uuurgh.

whosatthewheel

Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2018, 06:57:07 am »
The photo on the main page is very inspiring, but lacks pixels and as a result looks unprofessional. Isn't there a photo with more resolution around?

Using "farther" rather than "further" is a choice of words from the editorial team, on balance I would have used the more common word. The Twitter feed is a nice addition and overall the site looks OK.
The event pages need work, they look a bit dull at the moment and not much of an upgrade over the older audax.net pages

Re: New audax.uk site
« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2018, 07:02:57 am »
Calendar page is poorer. Much harder to look ahead and plan.