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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #100 on: February 08, 2019, 05:37:22 pm »
Has the bike check got any more sophisticated? In 2011 I remember it was simply a sticker on the top tube, something that could easily be transferred or copied to a completely separate bike.

(I guess it would be a risk as there are plenty of marshals on the course and at controls to spot anything obviously verboten [tri-bars, brakeless fixed, etc].)

The sticker was there to stop theft from the stadium as you collected your paperwork. It wasn't easy to remove without making a mess.

I can't remember the bike check in 2015.
I think they squeezed the brakes and checked you had lights.

Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #101 on: February 08, 2019, 10:50:01 pm »
It's a faff, but I don't have a particular problem (other than finding somewhere sensible to put my glasses) stripping down to a sports bra at the side of the road in order to remove a baselayer, or for emergency bee extraction.  Obviously it's not ideal next to a bus stop full of rowdy oiks, but if there are oiks around, there's probably a loo or something.

YMMV, of course; some people have scars they're self-conscious of, or have had bad experiences, or whatever.  And it's obviously not a good idea in the sort of countries us QUILTBAGs tend to think twice about visiting in the first place.

I have no main issue with my own body and Nudity, however I find that most others do not approve of me being topless.

As for sports bra. HAHAHAHAHA. My physio wants me to join a circuit training class to get some extra strength training. So I went to buy a sports bra. Turns out non of the highstreet shops in Amsterdam make sports bra's that go big enough for me. I ended up cycling out to Almere to a specialist sports bra shop, that whilst having dozens of different lines in stock, only had 3 that come in my size. I spent €100 on it. It's great for circuits, and running, but I did a 200 with it, and it's just not comfortable enough. I've kinda resigned myself to the fact I can't get sports bras that are a) in my size and b) comfortable for long distance cycling. You wouldn't think 38H is that big, but apparently, yes it is. It was a major regret the day I realised I'd forgotten to bring a sports bra when riding Paris Roubaix...

I don't tend to wear a base layer under my jersey as it's just too damn hot to do so.

J

In France all you have to do is carry a big banner saying "I'm Dutch" and no-one will be the slightest bit surprised -all the dutch girls on holiday take their tops off all the time (and not to cover up with a hi-viz jacket afterwards). The areas where you would get hassled you would probably get hassled covered up like an eskimo in the arctic winter and most of them are not areas where you would want to be after dark alone on a pushbike (unless accompanied by a large and ferocious dog, preferably drooling at the thought of fresh human flesh). I live in such an area (and I have daughters too)!

What you think of as high temperatures are probably what we would consider normal. I used to have a clubmate who liked going up cols when the tar was melting (not my idea of fun but that's what he liked). You have to get used to it as best you can. The last couple of years I have worked outside in 40°,  30° at midnight is uncomfortable but 25° becomes quite acceptable. The first week of the summer is hard, afterwards it gets easier.

Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #102 on: February 09, 2019, 11:41:48 am »
Has the bike check got any more sophisticated? In 2011 I remember it was simply a sticker on the top tube, something that could easily be transferred or copied to a completely separate bike.

(I guess it would be a risk as there are plenty of marshals on the course and at controls to spot anything obviously verboten [tri-bars, brakeless fixed, etc].)

The sticker was there to stop theft from the stadium as you collected your paperwork. It wasn't easy to remove without making a mess.

I can't remember the bike check in 2015.
I think they squeezed the brakes and checked you had lights.

In 2015, someone had there bike stolen at the velodrome, I think it was a Swedish rider, just after the bike check and in the supposedly secure area whilst they went to collect their documentation in the velodrome. so the sticker made no difference. What I saw was that as you was exiting the area with your bike, the officials would match the number on your sticker with your documentation, but, I saw people walking out of the secure area pushing bikes unchallenged behind the officials whilst they was checking other peoples bikes.

The stickers themselves were very robust and did not come off the bikes that easily, I still have the remains of mine from 2015 still on my top tube. Shows how often I clean my bikes.

That was all the bike check was but they also bounced my bike to see if anything fell off. But, they must have heard about me and watching out for me as its very rare for something not to drop off my bike on an Audax, usually the lights or the mapboard along with the routecards at some point. Once rode the National 400 for about 4 miles or more to a checkpoint holding onto my mapboard as it was hanging off as the bolt had come undone.

the straggler

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #103 on: February 09, 2019, 12:18:10 pm »

What I saw was that as you was exiting the area with your bike, the officials would match the number on your sticker with your documentation, but, I saw people walking out of the secure area pushing bikes unchallenged behind the officials whilst they was checking other peoples bikes.


Seems what I recall in 2015, just an imbalance of security check officials available to the shear volume  of riders entering and exiting the secure area. I got away using a cheap flimsy combo chain lock on every control, but so many didn't bother locking their bikes at the controls.
'If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat'.

Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #104 on: February 09, 2019, 12:21:02 pm »
That is about the sum of it. Bounce your bike, check your lights front and back, add sticker, and exclaim manifique and smile at you.

Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #105 on: February 09, 2019, 08:04:05 pm »
For PBP I certainly will use a bike with a kick-stand and an integrated lock. The time gain in less faff and less risk is a lot higher as time loss due to the extra weight.

Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #106 on: February 09, 2019, 09:29:09 pm »
Tricycle 4 me. Unlikely to be stolen and stays upright when you hop off.

Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #107 on: February 10, 2019, 09:38:26 am »
I won’t bother locking my Specialized Roubaix during the PBP as it’s 10 years old and only has 105 10 speed kit fitted. There will be plenty of bikes worth 10, 20 or more times as much as mine that thieves are more likely to target. I might think differently if I had a newer, flashier bike.
Back on hi-vis vests, I wore an Audax UK one last time from when Pam Pilbeam was selling off surplus stock for £1 at an AGM. It’s XXL so way too big for me, but I sewed extra Velcro strips so it wrapped round me more, making it probably the only double breasted hi-vis on the ride!


T42

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Re: PBP hi viz vest
« Reply #108 on: February 10, 2019, 10:12:03 am »
That is about the sum of it. Bounce your bike, check your lights front and back, add sticker, and exclaim manifique and smile at you.

My favourite pic from last time:

I dare eat all that may become a man.

But hold the oysters.