Author Topic: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.  (Read 1287 times)

Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« on: March 30, 2019, 02:49:48 pm »
Just wanted to highlight this 400k BRM ride - a PBP qualifier! -  in Belgium.

http://www.randonneurs.be/page/23-oudenburg-400

Entry is €7. No need to pre-book. Simply turn up on the day.
Start/End point - Café de Sportvriend – Dorpstraat 67 – Oudenburg (Ettelgem). This is 56 km from Dunkerque (Dunkirk) or 97 km from Calais.
There are several possibilities to sleep, for example: Ibis Budget in Jabbeke at 5 km from starting point Oudenburg. Showers are available in the sports hall.

Highlights of the ride include -
Control 1 : Menin Gate Memorial to the Missing in Ypres with possibility to be present at the “Last Post Ceremony” 20 h.

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menin_Gate

 

The Australian National Memorial at Villers-Bretonneux

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villers%E2%80%93Bretonneux_Australian_National_Memorial

 

Thiepval Memorial ant Cross of Sacrifice

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thiepval_Memorial

 

Vimy Canadian Memorial

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_National_Vimy_Memorial

 

Notre Dame de Lorette

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Notre_Dame_de_Lorette

 

Ploegsteert with

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berks_Commonwealth_War_Graves_Commission_Cemetery_Extension

 

Passendale Tyne Cot Cemeterry and Memorial

     https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyne_Cot


There's always a friendly atmosphere, with decent beer too.
For any other info or help, please drop me a message or email the organiser (he writes in perfect English!). 
John

Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2019, 06:34:30 pm »
This looks a cracking one .. going to think about a long one in Belgium/Netherlands for 2020

Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2019, 09:27:14 am »
Do you have the GPS route? I've always wanted to see those places and I could change my 400km qualifying event.

Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2019, 11:35:05 am »


John

 

There are 2 provisional tracks - near perfect. These will be tested shortly. Once confirmed, the official route will appear on www.randonneur.be

Part 1

https://www.gpsies.com/mapOnly.do?fileId=htwlinotoknnikru&isFullScreenLeave=true

Part 2

https://www.gpsies.com/mapOnly.do?fileId=nbvmicsgpmbsywwl&isFullScreenLeave=true

ianrobo - if you need any help/advice for 2020 then please fell free to PM me.

 

Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2019, 11:13:24 am »
Thanks a lot and PM sent

Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2019, 06:47:41 pm »
** SATURDAY **

The route is now confirmed.

http://www.randonneurs.be/page/23-oudenburg-400

Remember, no need to pre-book or do anything until 30 minutes before departure!

€7 to enter plus one very basic form, given out by the organiser.

bludger

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Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2019, 08:14:55 pm »
Oh man. Got an exam on may 9, might have to ferry over and give this one a go!

That's definitely a start time of 1800? Blimey...
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Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2019, 06:04:48 am »
Yes, the start time is 18h
That's so that you can make it for the “Last Post Ceremony” @ 20h, which is control no1.

A lot of Belgian 400s seem to start before it gets dark this year. Friday's one started at 22h   ::-)

bludger

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Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2019, 12:21:43 pm »
I think it's a smart move, I'd rather be riding in the dark while I'm fresh than be wobbling my way along in the murk while drifting off to sleep!
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bludger

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Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2019, 09:27:20 pm »
Currently on the train to Dover. I think I'm too far gone to turn back now  :o
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bludger

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Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2019, 07:33:03 pm »
That was a pretty memorable cycling experience which I learned important lessons from. I was very close to chucking it in but circumstances at 0200 meant that turning around was not much shorter than cracking on, and there wasn't a single McDonald's or petrol station I could hide away in within hundreds of kms. Like a fool I'd tried to keep with the hares which made me have a minor blow up, until rescued by a much more sensibly paced mob led by John, who very charitably put up with me until the damage of my 0400 bedtime and 0730 reveille in the bocage in a bivvy bag made itself apparent. At one point I thought about getting myself arrested so the cops would put me in a nice warm cell.

I was literally in survival mode in the wee hours, as in, keeping eyes out on the road for discarded insulative materials I could improv a sleeping system from. Alas Belgium is seemingly better with litterbugs than us and no such rescue was to be found, so I thought it best to just crack on and try to stay warm by riding the bike.

Thankfully it was at 0930 where things turned around. Firstly, the sun came out and warmed things up. The shops and cafes opened. After a very short nap basking in the sunshine atop Saint Nainze, everything was running smoothly and I finished in safe time for the closure of controls.

Cracking route and a valuable experience. It's these kinds of rides that prepare you for more to come imo.
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Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2019, 08:06:20 pm »
Yes, the start time is 18h
That's so that you can make it for the “Last Post Ceremony” @ 20h, which is control no1.

A lot of Belgian 400s seem to start before it gets dark this year. Friday's one started at 22h   ::-)

18:00 is a good start time, ride fresh in the night and even full value riders will finish before sunset on the next day.
   Eddington  87 miles

Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2019, 10:28:32 pm »
Thanks Bludger for the report and the mental strength to carry on is all .. defo on my list for next year but clearly food and water is key

bludger

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Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2019, 10:40:33 pm »
Some nice snaps by one of the other riders https://photos.app.goo.gl/vb5kCu4yAzqFPgd67
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Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2019, 02:50:15 pm »
In my view the 18h start time does make it harder, by a margin. The trouble is that there are no 24h facilities at all, which includes street lighting! So, we set off with the first control at 45k - the organiser stamping our brevet cards in a field just before Ypres and then it was a dark, unlit, no break/control, in-the-middle-of-no-where slog until 186k. I arrived at 01.45. Again, the organiser was stamping cards in an unlit car park before another 100k. By 8am and 286k, I would have paid several hundred Euros for a coffee or something, somewhere vaguely warm and/or a little rest. On longer rides, hot food and drink is the key for me.

That said, I did know this before I started and I was using it as good PBP practice  :)
The route was wonderful.... and shocking at times to see fields of graves, not to mention the number we passed.   

Compare this to the 400k "norm"....a 4am start on a Saturday so after 2hrs, the sun is up, by 7 the bakeries are opening, and after another hour, the cafes are opening. The controls are every 60k or so, each one in an open cafe. Finish by midnight, so only half the total night time cycling compared to this ride.

I'll take the latter, any day - but it's horses for courses. Each to their own.

I took 2x800ml bottles which were re-filled at 186k. Not much, but it was night time and fairly cold so I didn't drink as much as I would on a daytime ride.....when the cafes would be open. 
 

Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #15 on: May 15, 2019, 10:39:05 pm »
So how did you cope for water ?  Just had to take some with you ?? 

bludger

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Re: Great War Remembrance Brevet. 11 May. Belgium.
« Reply #16 on: May 15, 2019, 11:19:50 pm »
I had 2x 600ml bottles and had to make it last. John actually rumbled me topping mine up from a front garden tap... A top up was also provided (bottled water) at the Australian memorial (and nothing else, in case you were wondering!).

I saw one rider carrying four bottles (in a rucksack of all places). This would be what I'd pack for next time.
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