Author Topic: Qualification rules  (Read 3316 times)

Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2019, 09:26:07 am »
The need for speed is understood ...

I think that last time, the ACP homologation numbers for the very last qualifier were issued within an hour of the provisional results having been confirmed by the Recorder and Validation Secretary.

Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2019, 09:38:48 am »
Thanks folks.  Nerves duly calmed.
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Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2019, 12:11:33 pm »
From:
http://www.aukweb.net/events/pbp/

Registration
Registration is not the same as pre-registration
Registration will open on 1 June 2019.
If you pre-registered you need start the registration process before 18 June 2019 or the benefit of your pre-registration will be lost.
You can start the registration process before having completed the qualifying rides but you will need to provide any missing homologation numbers before Registration closes on 3 July 2019.
Key here for those who are riding their 'last' qualifier later rather than earlier, is to go in and 'start' the registration process in the first half of June. A rider will have to have completed their 2,3 and 400s by then and likely homolgated (ie with ACP numbers on the ACP database). Then follow up with the 600 homolgation before 3 Jul.
"Registration
"The registration period begins on 25 May 2019 and ends on 03 July 2019. Registrations can be made . . .  before having completed [all] the qualifying brevets, but you need to provide the missing brevet certification numbers on or before 03 July 2019 or your registration will be cancelled."

Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2019, 07:19:42 pm »
From:
http://www.aukweb.net/events/pbp/

Registration
Registration is not the same as pre-registration
Registration will open on 1 June 2019.
If you pre-registered you need start the registration process before 18 June 2019 or the benefit of your pre-registration will be lost.
You can start the registration process before having completed the qualifying rides but you will need to provide any missing homologation numbers before Registration closes on 3 July 2019.
Key here for those who are riding there 'last' qualifier later rather than earlier, is to go in and 'start' the registration process in the first half of June. A rider will have to have completed their 2,3 and 400s by then and likely homolgated (ie with ACP numbers on the ACP database). Then follow up with the 600 homolgation before 3 Jul.
"Registration
"The registration period begins on 25 May 2019 and ends on 03 July 2019. Registrations can be made . . .  before having completed [all] the qualifying brevets, but you need to provide the missing brevet certification numbers on or before 03 July 2019 or your registration will be cancelled."

or in my case 200, 300 and 600 as my BCM number should come through long before back to the smoke.

Eddington  96miles

Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2019, 06:37:40 pm »
Key here for those who are riding there 'last' qualifier later rather than earlier, is to go in and 'start' the registration process in the first half of June. A rider will have to have completed their 2,3 and 400s by then and likely homolgated (ie with ACP numbers on the ACP database). Then follow up with the 600 homolgation before 3 Jul.
"Registration
"The registration period begins on 25 May 2019 and ends on 03 July 2019. Registrations can be made . . .  before having completed [all] the qualifying brevets, but you need to provide the missing brevet certification numbers on or before 03 July 2019 or your registration will be cancelled."

or in my case 200, 300 and 600 as my BCM number should come through long before back to the smoke.
PBP site: "You will have to convert your preregistration to a final registration before 20 June 2019 at midnight (French time) to preserve your preregistration."
Since they (ACP) are not opening any places up if pre-registrants fail to register, will a rider already pre-registered who then doesn't register by 20 June (say for example they are waiting on a 3rd homologation number), just lose their start slot, full stop?
(Asking for a friend: I'm already registered and just waiting on the BCM results/homologation.)

Phil W

Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2019, 07:30:26 pm »
Oh thanks for that. I was waiting till I'd nailed 600 before completing registration, thinking you had till 3rd July.  Will complete registration as soon as the numbers appear for my 400.

Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #31 on: June 04, 2019, 04:30:50 pm »
Registration section of PBP site says "You will have to convert your preregistration to a final registration before 20 June 2019 at midnight (French time) to preserve your preregistration."
But the Rules subsection (under the 'Ride' button on the left) http://www.paris-brest-paris.org/index2.php?lang=en&cat=randonnee&page=reglement
says: "If you have not converted your preregistration into a definite registration until June 23, 2019 at midnight (French time), you will lose your reserved place. You can still apply for registration, but without priority."
but then says (same Article (4)):
"Preregistrations will be cancelled on June 20th, 2019 if the registration was not initiated (minimum three Qualifying events ("BRM") needed in the registration form)."
Which is it, I wonder, or have I mis-read?

Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2019, 10:23:21 pm »
And the pbp plaquette states entries must be started by 18th june

Eddington  96miles

Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #33 on: June 05, 2019, 02:25:33 pm »
From:
http://www.aukweb.net/events/pbp/

Registration
Registration is not the same as pre-registration
Registration will open on 1 June 2019.
If you pre-registered you need start the registration process before 18 June 2019 or the benefit of your pre-registration will be lost.
You can start the registration process before having completed the qualifying rides but you will need to provide any missing homologation numbers before Registration closes on 3 July 2019.
Many thanks that's clear.  It does suggest that whoever is responsible for such things will have to be a bit quicker turning "provisional" results into finals than is sometimes the case, given that the last PBP qualifiers are on 22 June. Or am I misunderstanding?

In previous years 600s have been validated very quickly due to the tight timescales - ACP are well aware of the brevity.   I think the last time my 600 results were posted in a couple of days.


I thought  we had until the 20th June to convert our pre-registration to a full registration?

https://www.paris-brest-paris.org/index2.php?lang=en&cat=inscription&page=comment_sinscrire
You will have to convert your preregistration to a final registration before 20 June 2019 at midnight (French time) to preserve your preregistration.

Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #34 on: June 05, 2019, 02:48:40 pm »
Still waiting for my 400 from 18th May to progress from provisional (and my 600 25th May). Hope there's OK slots left when it comes through!

LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #35 on: June 05, 2019, 03:04:34 pm »
I don't think your slot changes.

Still two qualifiers to work through the validation process but I won't get worried for a while yet.

In 1999, three of my qualifiers were held on the last possible weekend for the distance. PBP is a one-shot event, so doing qualifiers with the same approach was worthwhile practice.
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Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #36 on: June 05, 2019, 03:34:31 pm »
Sorry - I meant slots for bike checks. I'm happy with my start wave time and know that's fixed as long as I register.

LittleWheelsandBig

  • Whimsy Rider
Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #37 on: June 05, 2019, 03:36:05 pm »
The bike check is perfunctory and an excuse to socialise with friends new and old before the big event. The exact bike check time slot doesn't really matter.
Wheel meet again, don't know where, don't know when...

frankly frankie

  • I kid you not
    • Fuchsiaphile
Re: Qualification rules
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2019, 10:00:46 am »
The need for speed is understood ...

That understanding has to start with all four organisers of the last-gasp 600s. I'm sure the validation team will be up for it but there's no point if any one of those four goes all laid-back after the event (as organisers often do, quite understandably).  I note that one of them is a postal finish  :o  :hand:  :o
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