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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #175 on: May 23, 2020, 05:45:11 pm »
::-) ~My accommodation in the last week or two have cancelled my bookings, both at the start and finish due to advice of the government  etc etc.
 Has anyone else suffered this set back recently?
Regards
A
Nope, ours is fine still


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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #176 on: May 23, 2020, 06:00:33 pm »
The bit that says don't spend the night away from home presumably.

Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #177 on: May 23, 2020, 06:03:12 pm »
The bit that says don't spend the night away from home presumably.
That’s current, we don’t know it still will be end of July, presume that’s why Andy has not cancelled yet.


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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #178 on: May 23, 2020, 06:25:13 pm »
The bit that says don't spend the night away from home presumably.
That’s current, we don’t know it still will be end of July, presume that’s why Andy has not cancelled yet.


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True, but the end of July is only 9 weeks away;
Assuming Scotland goes to Phase 1 on the 28th, the earliest we are likely to go to Phase 2 is the 18th of June, and so the earliest for Phase 3 would be 9th July.
At that point hotels can open, but it's unlikely to be quite that quick. End of July to Mid-August is roughly when many of us are predicting it.
What's more physical distancing remains, that still means the current restrictions on food serving are likely to remain in place.
It's likely most accommodation providers in Scotland are looking at it and realizing it wont be worth the effort unless they have self-catering kitchens in every room.
Hostels with shared rooms are almost certainly going to find it impossible to reopen too.

Even in the plans for Phase 4 travel and accommodation will still be full of problems.
It's rather wooly about relaxations being on scientific advice, which really just means there's no hope of setting out the road map any further.
But the starting point retains physical distancing, so still no hostel style accommodation.

We're all reckoning that will be reached some point next spring...
Bit annoying as I somehow need to use up at least 28 out of 41 days leave with not much to do in it.


As for that Cornish hotel, they've probably looked at the van trippers invading and had a "fuck this" moment and decided they can't promote tourism this summer.


The other possibilities of course are that they've gone bankrupt.


And... there's not going to be any international tourists for a long time, and that was one of Andy's other problems running it.

Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #179 on: May 23, 2020, 06:33:22 pm »
The bit that says don't spend the night away from home presumably.
That’s current, we don’t know it still will be end of July, presume that’s why Andy has not cancelled yet.


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True, but the end of July is only 9 weeks away;
Assuming Scotland goes to Phase 1 on the 28th, the earliest we are likely to go to Phase 2 is the 18th of June, and so the earliest for Phase 3 would be 9th July.
At that point hotels can open, but it's unlikely to be quite that quick. End of July to Mid-August is roughly when many of us are predicting it.
What's more physical distancing remains, that still means the current restrictions on food serving are likely to remain in place.
It's likely most accommodation providers in Scotland are looking at it and realizing it wont be worth the effort unless they have self-catering kitchens in every room.
Hostels with shared rooms are almost certainly going to find it impossible to reopen too.

Even in the plans for Phase 4 travel and accommodation will still be full of problems.
It's rather wooly about relaxations being on scientific advice, which really just means there's no hope of setting out the road map any further.
But the starting point retains physical distancing, so still no hostel style accommodation.

We're all reckoning that will be reached some point next spring...
Bit annoying as I somehow need to use up at least 28 out of 41 days leave with not much to do in it.


As for that Cornish hotel, they've probably looked at the van trippers invading and had a "fuck this" moment and decided they can't promote tourism this summer.


The other possibilities of course are that they've gone bankrupt.


And... there's not going to be any international tourists for a long time, and that was one of Andy's other problems running it.
So camping it is then.


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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #180 on: May 23, 2020, 06:53:09 pm »
Assumptions, as I said, we just don’t know. No one does. We’re all booked in and have leave booked where required. So let’s stay positive and wait to see.


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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #181 on: May 23, 2020, 10:24:16 pm »
::-) ~My accommodation in the last week or two have cancelled my bookings, both at the start and finish due to advice of the government  etc etc.
 Has anyone else suffered this set back recently?
Regards
A
I havent had anything yet. Currently expecting cancellation nearer the time, maybe 3 or 4 weeks before the planned date.

It's hard to see the rules in Scotland being compatible with the event in only 2 months, judging by past performance.

I see they are still expecting to run borders of Belgium in September,  and the event Jersey is great. Of course Belgium may not be keen on a load of high risk British cyclists arriving.
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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #182 on: May 23, 2020, 10:51:13 pm »
::-) ~My accommodation in the last week or two have cancelled my bookings, both at the start and finish due to advice of the government  etc etc.
 Has anyone else suffered this set back recently?
Regards
A

I was booked on the sleeper train back. Yesterday I was notified that the service has been cancelled. I am sure this will also impact others.
On a more positive note I managed 240 miles in a day on rollers as a recent charity ride so my fitness is not too bad.

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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #183 on: May 23, 2020, 11:06:42 pm »
I see they are still expecting to run borders of Belgium in September,  and the event Jersey is great. Of course Belgium may not be keen on a load of high risk British cyclists arriving.

Considering the UK's quarantine is likely going to last well into "Phase 4" level of restrictions I don't see me being able to go, given I'll be stuck at home for 2 weeks on return.

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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #184 on: May 23, 2020, 11:11:35 pm »
Expect you might also need a fortnight’s quarantine in Belgium before you can start riding.
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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #185 on: May 23, 2020, 11:14:41 pm »
Expect you might also need a fortnight’s quarantine in Belgium before you can start riding.

Just had a look at the Ranndoneurs.be and BoB websites and see no mention on what the situation is with running things beyond their Strava based DIY system.

Admittedly my Dutch isn't great and French is non-existent so I might have missed something.

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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #186 on: May 23, 2020, 11:27:19 pm »
“Travelers arriving to Belgium from abroad must stay home for 14 days after returning from travel, monitor their health, and practice social distancing.”

From https://be.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/

Seems to be confirmed in https://www.info-coronavirus.be/en/faq/#006

I expect Belgium’s Schengen area international travel restrictions will be relaxed before travel restrictions from the UK.
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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #187 on: May 24, 2020, 04:05:06 pm »
I do not understand why this event has not been cancelled.

1. The travel and social distancing restrictions are unlikely to have been lifted.
2. The sleeping arrangements will struggle to allow social distancing.
3. Showers and washing areas are a particular problem as they will need to be cleaned between uses. This is what my work could not manage so until further notice the showers at my work are closed.
4. The travel people have booked has started to be cancelled. LE and JoG are both hard to get to and require transport networks to be operating.
5. People from abroad may be subject to quarantine when entering and leaving the UK.
6. Cafes and pubs are a mainstay of feeding on these type of long rides. They will be unlikely to be open for the event.

I have ridden LEJOG twice and once in the AUDAX standard. It is unpredictable, arrival and leaving times will be hard to predict. If you really want to do LEJOG this year then I would opt for a solo ride. From the outside it feels like trying to organise this in the year we are having is a fool errand.

BB
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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #188 on: May 24, 2020, 05:26:36 pm »
“Travelers arriving to Belgium from abroad must stay home for 14 days after returning from travel, monitor their health, and practice social distancing.”

From https://be.usembassy.gov/covid-19-information/

Seems to be confirmed in https://www.info-coronavirus.be/en/faq/#006

I expect Belgium’s Schengen area international travel restrictions will be relaxed before travel restrictions from the UK.

I was meaning in relation to BoB running or not, rather than whether belgium has a 14 day quarantine or not. The later was easy enough to find written in English.

Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #189 on: May 24, 2020, 06:01:05 pm »
 I feel that Bianchi Boy, has valid points, although I am very keen to ride; my B&B has been cancelled & cannot be re-booked. If train fares could be booked, it doesn’t seem possible, for cyclists in numbers to travel  within restrictions.
What locals would think of cyclists, not to mention Audax, in each place we stop or congregate, can only be negative, possibly hostile.
Furthermore, with social distances of two metres, along with queuing, how much time would be added to each Co-Op/Spar stop, multiplied by controls doing the same, to an average rider each day?
I truly wish a July LEJOG would be realistic, but I have strong doubts! I respectfully think, a decision must be made ASAP.

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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #190 on: May 24, 2020, 07:46:05 pm »
I feel that Bianchi Boy, has valid points, although I am very keen to ride; my B&B has been cancelled & cannot be re-booked. If train fares could be booked, it doesn’t seem possible, for cyclists in numbers to travel  within restrictions.
What locals would think of cyclists, not to mention Audax, in each place we stop or congregate, can only be negative, possibly hostile.
Furthermore, with social distances of two metres, along with queuing, how much time would be added to each Co-Op/Spar stop, multiplied by controls doing the same, to an average rider each day?
I truly wish a July LEJOG would be realistic, but I have strong doubts! I respectfully think, a decision must be made ASAP.
If you are really keen on doing this solo is a very practical option if all the facilities are open. I stopped mainly in Travel Lodges as they have 24 hour reception (currently only open for key staff) so unless you are prepared to bivi the whole way up accommodation will be a struggle. I did have to bail on the second last day before Inverness because of a block head wind down the great glen. In the morning the wind had stopped but the rain was heavy all the way to Tain.

I sincerely hope things improve rapidly and the event can run, but my head tells me this is highly unlikely.

I have 4 DIY perms ready to go so I can get an SR if restrictions allow. I can hunker down for one night on the 600 in a shop doorway.

BB
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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #191 on: Yesterday at 10:38:46 am »
If you are really keen on doing this solo is a very practical option if all the facilities are open. I stopped mainly in Travel Lodges as they have 24 hour reception (currently only open for key staff) so unless you are prepared to bivi the whole way up accommodation will be a struggle.
BB
If Audax UK have reintroduced Permanents in a suitable timescale (I sincerely hope so), then End-to-end permanents:
https://markhbdm.wixsite.com/end2end#!br/c1nwd
http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/mh01/
By end July Travelodges and the like will surely be open for business, and so will shops and the like all along the route, even Scotland.
This is my draft of a possible route with 290km average days and control points:
[To follow - RidewithGPS seems 'down'.]Edited: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/32758483?beta=false
Travelodges at Weston-super-Mare (310k), Warrington (608k), Dumfries (857k), Fort William (1153k) - overall 1449k.

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Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #192 on: Yesterday at 10:40:36 am »
With everyone's training down the pan, with lack of events running up to LeJOG & lockdown hurting plans for big rides, as well as mental effects etc. Perhaps best to postpone this event until next year.

Speak for yourself.

Re: LEJOG: 26 - 31 JULY 2020
« Reply #193 on: Yesterday at 10:42:28 am »
With everyone's training down the pan, with lack of events running up to LeJOG & lockdown hurting plans for big rides, as well as mental effects etc. Perhaps best to postpone this event until next year.

Speak for yourself.
Second that!


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