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Jaded

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #100 on: November 02, 2019, 09:23:45 am »
Stressful...
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #101 on: November 02, 2019, 09:46:07 am »
Edge of the seat...

SA will be pleased to have kept England out.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #102 on: November 02, 2019, 10:08:49 am »

Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #103 on: November 02, 2019, 10:16:42 am »
 :)

England need a try...  and to overcome the weight of history on that half time score.
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #104 on: November 02, 2019, 10:37:32 am »
Have SA made a straight lineout throw yet?   >:(
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #105 on: November 02, 2019, 10:38:24 am »
All over.   :(
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #106 on: November 02, 2019, 10:39:24 am »
Yes, I don’t think has a way back now.
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #107 on: November 02, 2019, 10:53:15 am »
The better team - by far - have won.
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #108 on: November 02, 2019, 11:08:25 am »
Ooooook, so I think we need some calm, rational analysis here:

I've looked at the head-to-head results, and clearly the only fair result is a 3-way tie between
eng, RSA,NZ;
With Wales in a plucky 4th.
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #109 on: November 02, 2019, 02:25:08 pm »
Ooooook, so I think we need some calm, rational analysis here:

I've looked at the head-to-head results, and clearly the only fair result is a 3-way tie between
eng, RSA,NZ;
With Wales in a plucky 4th.

Do you have prior art on all this bollocks?
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #110 on: November 02, 2019, 02:40:47 pm »
Great post match speech from Kolisi





https://youtu.be/NoX3KOlJOq0

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #111 on: November 02, 2019, 02:41:57 pm »
Bah!  Poor show by The BRITONS' England.  Too many penalties given away.
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #112 on: November 02, 2019, 02:50:36 pm »
Ooooook, so I think we need some calm, rational analysis here:

I've looked at the head-to-head results, and clearly the only fair result is a 3-way tie between
eng, RSA,NZ;
With Wales in a plucky 4th.

Do you have prior art on all this bollocks?
Gosh, what heinous statement has provoked the Wowbagger into foul language?

(Does he think Wales don't deserve 4th place in these rankings?)
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #113 on: November 02, 2019, 05:02:26 pm »
I actually felt quite pleased at the result.

No, not because of some Wowbaggerish* about Wales, but simply because SA were the better team on the day. It was also nice that they scored two cracking tries, and that sort of thing is good for the game.

I wanted England to win, but they didn't turn up. Too many simple, basic errors.

That said, I have never liked Garces as a referee.




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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #114 on: November 02, 2019, 05:06:39 pm »
looking back I think SA set out to prevent the kind of start we had last week, and Sinkler's substitution was the icing on the cake. They were obviously going to go for the scrum and the subbing made that all the easier, without the running play that Sinkler provides. Our handling was terrible - attacks snuffed out by ourselves! What. contract with last week.

SA well deserved winners.
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #115 on: November 02, 2019, 05:11:10 pm »
I think the error count was highest early in the game, when they actually had a lot of ball and space. I'm guessing it was pressure - against NZ they were underdogs, this one much less so. I think dealing with the high ball is a classic symptom of this, sadly.

I don't know enough about the subtlety of tactics to judge that aspect, but RSA did just seem to do all the small things that little bit better, with less errors than ENG - that might have been enough to edge the win, but their huge adnavtage in the scrums made it an inevitable result.

I'm way too bitter to say anything nice about the tries. Yet.
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #116 on: November 02, 2019, 11:07:20 pm »
England players are getting quite a bit of stick for refusing to wear their runner-up medals.

https://www.rugbypass.com/news/england-players-medal-reaction-has-upset-a-lot-of-people-on-twitter
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #117 on: November 02, 2019, 11:34:25 pm »
Disappointing.  The upside for me was #1 child wailing "not another scrum!" after about 7 min of watching.  Will try him on League next weekend.
While in no way English, would have been nice for the kids to witness their national team win something before they retire.
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #118 on: November 02, 2019, 11:46:12 pm »
Farfetched called it.

While it was a truly outstanding performance and win, the team that knocks NZ out often lose their next game, at least this happened in 99,03 and 07 ... It's not inconceivable that this took a lot out of them today. Hope not of course!
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #119 on: November 03, 2019, 12:39:29 am »
I was a bit conflicted during the match. I'm English, but my friend Helen was the Springboks's physio from 1992. So my only connection to international rugby is through her.

https://thestormers.com/helen-millson-under-the-spotlight/

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #120 on: November 03, 2019, 02:19:50 am »
England only win foopball or rugby World Cups under a Labour government :D
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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #121 on: November 03, 2019, 10:26:17 am »
England only win foopball or rugby World Cups under a Labour government :D

And Cricket World Cups only under a Tory Government.

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #122 on: November 03, 2019, 01:12:21 pm »
England only win foopball or rugby World Cups under a Labour government :D

And Cricket World Cups only under a Tory Government.

(Sample size of 1.)

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #123 on: November 03, 2019, 02:41:42 pm »
I was a bit conflicted during the match. I'm English, but my friend Helen was the Springboks's physio from 1992. So my only connection to international rugby is through her.

https://thestormers.com/helen-millson-under-the-spotlight/

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Re: Rugby World Cup 2019
« Reply #124 on: November 03, 2019, 03:26:55 pm »
Farfetched called it.

While it was a truly outstanding performance and win, the team that knocks NZ out often lose their next game, at least this happened in 99,03 and 07 ... It's not inconceivable that this took a lot out of them today. Hope not of course!

Thks... But you're too kind. I didn't get the impression that last week's endeavors were the reason. England's scrum was obviously not functioning and that was the root cause of most of the problems. The breakdown was messy which was predicted, and Garces was his usual self, inconsistent and not worthy of the occasion.

We should also not forget that England (also under Jones) have lost 5 final day grand slams in the 6 nation's era. They don't cope well when in the position of favorite. Last week's demolition of NZ only served to up the hype and put SA in the underdog role.

The injury and loss of Sinckler was a factor, it may have been the reason the scrum malfunctioned .. we shall never know. I don't know what the game plan was but I didn't see a plan B either. There is a distinct lack of leadership in this group something England had in abundance in 2003... Over 4 years most of them will get a 2nd chance.
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